My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 352 - X-MEN 97 S1E10 RECAP WITH CLEM AND JOSE YOUNGS

Episode Date: May 17, 2024

Robbie and Clem are joined by Jose Youngs to help break down the PHENOMENAL #XMen97 Season 1 finale, which featured more cameos than 'Unfrosted' and landed the X-Jet perfectly! Plus - Jose previews where Season 2 may take us based on the mid-credits scene! Download the Gametime app or go to https://gametime.co, enter your email, and redeem code MMB for $20 off your first purchase (terms apply). ****************************************   My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike!   Subscribe on Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/MyMomsBasementWithRobbieFox Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement, presented by Barstool Sports, and a special X-Men 97, but is bald by choice, unlike Charles Xavier, and Jose Youngs, who is as inked up as Nightcrawler and as well-read as Beast. Boys, how we doing? I loved that introduction so much. I really thought about it. That's good on my gravestone. Professional for X-Men, yeah. That's good on my gravestone.

As well-spoken as Nightcrawler and Beast. Shit, you already used that one on jose i can't that was good that was electric oh i i mean shout out jose coming on because bob you're like i'm gonna try to get jose on i said i was thinking the same thing after we watched the finale of the season i said yeah probably should have waited till this for jose to come on because i have a lot of questions going on and i'm sure a lot of listeners do too and you kind of broke some of it down for us on twitter and dms but uh there's a whole lot we can talk about on the pod yeah i'm gonna do my best like i thought it was necessary

you know 43 minutes or whatever when you saw the runtime i pretty much knew immediately like this is gonna be uh we're gonna ask jose to come on and i don't know about you guys but those 43 minutes it felt like a 22 minute episode because so much happened in 43 minutes like it was over and i was like what i have to wait like a year like i was it's funny you say that because i'm with you and i was talking to other people about this i feel like they're just burning through like some classic source material dude you have no idea but there is i guess so much over the years but i feel like they're taking the top shelf right now like i guess they're not like oh we're going to do 100 season of the x-men cartoon but at the same point like i'd be down for it if they keep up this quality yeah it seems like they're doing they're taking multiple arcs at once and kind of running them simultaneously,

but like interweaving a lot of, cause some characters don't, aren't in certain arcs in the comic book. Some characters are not even introduced in the show. Some characters aren't in, it's like a whole, they're taking like all the, it's like a kid playing with action figures.

Like, Oh, I don't, I don't have a kiddie pride action figure like oh i don't i don't have a kitty pride action figure but i have jubilee and then she just like they just smash them together it's a lot of fun we were texting about it before and i said to you the fact that and you were saying like i was going back and the chaotic stories and the you know weaving in and out of different comics and whatnot the x-men used to have i said the fact that they're making it coherent

one made the same point when're making it coherent clem made the same point when we talked about this he's made the same point throughout the season the fact that they're making it streamlined and it not is that a bad word and i don't mean a bad streamlined i mean like they they're making it coherent and easy to understand something like the cable story which clem has mentioned stuff that at the end of this season with Bastion and prime Sentinels and people turning into humans and weird telekinetic stuff between Charles and Magneto, it all works. Like this finale had so much hype behind it. The season was perfect leading up to it where we were all kind of like, are they going to throw a perfect game? I feel like it even

exceeded those expectations that, I mean like seven minutes into it, they just throw every character, you know, from Marvel. They're like, Oh, by the way, the universe is,

you know, full of superheroes. And I think they did a fantastic job of sticking to the night, the 97 theme, because a lot of the characters that popped up were really popular in 1997. Like they could throw like Submariner out there just because he's like, you know, popular now,

or they could throw a lot of the Avengers at you because they're popular now, but they weren't in 1997. They, they pretty much went through the yearbook and they were like most popular and they just kind of sprinkled them in. And I thought I, if I could make a list of like all the popular ones from the late 90s, they pretty much knocked out of the park.

And they showed Captain America and Iron Man. And my friend was texting me this. I hadn't even thought about it. But in the 90s, the Avengers were not relevant whatsoever. I don't know, Clem, if you were reading Marvel comic books then. You couldn't pay me to read an Avengers comic book in the 90s. It was the worst thing that Marvel was doing. It was like X-Men, Spider-Man, Daredevil, Ghost Rider.

Those were king. And then the Avengers were like D tier. So the fact that they showed all these heroes fighting crime and they showed Captain America and Iron Man just kind of standing there watching. I was like, oh, sticking with the theme of the late 90s, the Avengers are just doing nothing. I say, like, any Iron Man comic books

or, like, Avengers stuff was, like, stuff that was, like, free or I had, like, a version of it that I felt like I had that. Iron Man was, like, a clunky, just, like, I don't give a fuck about this guy. And it's a testament to Robert Downey Jr. for making him, like, I remember going to the movie and being like ah he was he was awful in the comic books but i'll see what this movie's about and then i left i was like holy shit and like and again i'm not gonna do that

was actually clutch bob the fact that those two guys were in the room so neither of them could take all the blame for shooting down the astro because all the cap guys would be blaming iron man and vice versa but cap has like things on his head like just labels all around and again the cool shit was like you said x-men ghost rider uh spidey obviously a lot of dc stuff at the time yeah dc was king in the 90s yeah this episode was awesome though tolerance is extinction part three and i want to go back now i've watched it twice i want to go back and watch part one two and three like in succession see if it works is almost an animated movie for you guys clem i'll start with you did it exceed your expectations like it did for me

the um finale or the entire finale just the finale for now we'll get to the season later i guess it did like i was like let's just land the plane and they're like oh no like we're gonna land the plane and guess what we're in tahiti we're not even going back to you don't have to work you guys are off another week you guys get the party and like i think that's kind of what this last episode was it's like all the little easter eggs there's so much shit you can dig into and then i said to you i texted you before i was like i want to re-watch the whole season and kind of just be like i imagine those first few episodes seem so like carefree because it's like pre-genosha post-genosha are two separate seasons in themselves so yeah they they landed it

they crushed it uh i everything about this season surpassed my expectations and i mean me and jose were like coming ourselves, talking about the X-Men before the season started. And I imagine Jose is in the same boat as me for both the season and the finale. 10 out of 10 across the board. I think they, it was risky using a lot of the arcs they did simultaneously and interweaving

and making us care. I thought them introducing like the madeline prior clone thing like right out of the gate i was like oh 90s fans are gonna free they're gonna have ptsd from this but then they quickly kind of interwove it like right into the story like pretty seamlessly um i thought the 45 minute finale was perfect because it planted the seeds of three, not major arcs, but three very fun arcs that season two will basically have three storylines going simultaneously. And there are three fun. They're not in the pantheon of X-Men storylines.

They're probably not on the Mount Rushmore, but they're all fondly remembered. So I think they knocked out of the park in that aspect. And there was a lot of easter eggs uh for like these for both x-men comic and movie fans that i've just i i haven't re-watched it yet but i would pause and rewind and be like wait did i see that did i see that and it was it was a start and stop episode just because i was so into it i had to do the same thing and let's get into it because there's a lot recap. It begins with a like flashback quote unquote flashback of Charles and Eric at a bar in college revealing their mutant powers to one another.

And like kind of being like, Oh yeah, mutants like they should do this and mutants should do that. If I were a mutant, I would do this. And it's like, Charles kind of tells him with telekinetic abilities, Hey dude,

we're both mutants and I move metal. I want to use that as a meme right away. When he just pauses for a second, he was metal. Like my mom's basement. Um, but then it's revealed that this is Charles doing almost an inception like thing with Eric.

And like, even the visual of the water crashing reminded me of inception a little bit like this is very cool very like dramatic obviously for the finale of a soap opera-esque cartoon and then it's revealed that he's like he's like he grabs onto magneto and he's like i don't even know what to call it he's using his energy to reverse the the ability which happened in the comic and then yeah bo de mayo like tweeted it's another one of those things where they pretty much created a panel for panel and he's like you know most directors would feel a little weird with you telling them what shots to do but he was like

the x-men 97 directors love to recreate in the shit panel for panel. And we get every cameo in the world at this point. You see the Silver Samurai. You see Iron Man and Captain America. You see Daredevil. You see Doctor Strange doing some surgery. You see Black Panther, the Dora Milaje with him. You see Omega Red, Crimson Dynamo, Dark Star. You see Psylocke with Alpha Flight.

You see Cloak and Dagger. It was such an awesome way of showing you how big this cartoon universe could get. Was it gratuitous? Maybe. It didn't feel gratuitous to me, though. It just felt awesome. The cameo part, what that did is it came in the MCU room and it just took some Febreze. And then it's like the last few years, guys, like, don't worry about all these characters

when you saw from them and, you know, all the other characters in the MCU. This shit is, this shit is like, it just felt good. Just like they look like the comic book characters, obviously, because it's a cartoon. And they also just like helps just to to be able to lump people in. And you can be like, oh, that's Omega Red without having to squint or figure it out. It just made everything so much easier. I know Jose was probably going crazy about it. I don't know much about them, but the Daredevil, Cloak, and Dagger, people were freaking the fuck out.

I don't know anything about Cloak or Dagger. And I feel like that's probably someone that is near and dear to Jose's heart. Cloak and Dagger are kind of like a Spider-Man offshoot that they were kind of introduced in that world. And then they became so popular that they got their own show. They actually had a – I want to say – what did ABC Family become? Freeform? Freeform. I think they had a Freeform show.

Yeah, they definitely had a show i think it had like a a fan base that was kind of young but people liked it i think i don't know it's fun they're really fun man they're like they're obviously an interracial couple that i can't like there was some they got stuck in a warehouse and there was some like energy blast from like a science experiment gone wrong and his body his cloak is basically like a black hole but he can teleport into it so like if he can take it like if like Clem could jump into

his cloak and then that and then cloak could catch the train to New York and then he goes and then pop like climb out in New York City like that's how it would be like he can carry things in the Civil War the original Civil War comic book, they're having this big epic battle in a building,

and it's too claustrophobic. So Captain America has Cloak take everyone in his cloak and then just dump them into the streets of New York so they can start fighting. He also does it with, there's another one he does where he sucks in there. he does it with there's another one he does where he like sucks in there i think it's thanos in the original infinity gauntlet the comic book he like thanos falls into his body and like he captures him and they're like oh you did it and he goes and then

cloak is like something's wrong and then thanos like punches through his chest out the cloak because his cloak is just an endless black hole and then uh daggers the opposite she throws light um and one of the arcs that they have in the comic book is they deal with a lot of like inner city turmoil like drugs and crime and everything is like if you're a junkie she can like hit you with her uh like light dagger and it like cleanses you so like all of a sudden you're no longer like craving whatever drug you're doing but I was first introduced to them by I had the Cloak and Dagger action figures. And they came with a comic book. But you can only get them at Toys R Us.

But the introduction of Cloak and Dagger in the comic had drugs and crimes and everything. And the Toys R Us comic books would censor all of it out. So I'd be like, what are they fighting over like there's just nothing there so like i remember one where they were like they looked at the floor and it was just an empty floor and i was like what's the big deal and then like years later i went to reread it and i realized that uh toys r us had censored out all like the needles that were on the floor. So stuff like that. They're a lot of fun when they pop into stories.

I had no idea they were a couple. I just figured they were like a duo that fights crime or whatever. And I'll tell you, Dagger, she has some risque outfit. I mean, those are the girls that are kids. 80s and 90s, baby. Yeah, baby. That's a beautiful thing. Also, I don't know if you guys agree with me when they start the episode with the flashback and i know they're doing it to set the time but

when they have the turn turn that felt it like made the episode feel a little more premium that they're like using a legit song yeah i agree random like background music right yeah 100 that's a great call i thought it because they put the music by the newton brothers i think it is or something at the same time that was playing and i was like shit they nailed the music this season and they got like a cherry on top they were like all right we'll let you cash in for a song at the end yeah exactly and even our boy magneto was spitting too minds are harder to bend the metal from his point of view or whatever what is the second that happened i was like i text my girlfriend i was like i think i know what my next tattoo is gonna be oh because i don't have a lot of marvel i don't have any marvel tattoos but i really like magneto but

i don't just want to i don't just want a goofy magneto i want yeah that you want a fucking bar yeah that's what I'm saying. I definitely had one of those figures you were talking about that came with a comic book. I had a Punisher one for sure. Was it McFarlane toys that made them? No. I don't think they were. McFarlane toys are like figures that are static. These were like they can move their hands

and figures oh yeah no they could move they they yeah like so i don't think they were mcfarland but i don't honestly remember i just remember i collected all these spider-mans like the black one like the ripped spider-man the iron spider-man all that stuff i was like really into collecting all the spider figures well i had a punisher phase like a bunch of kids in my school had a punisher phase and like everyone goes to the punisher phase. A bunch of kids in my school had a Punisher phase. Everyone goes to the Punisher phase. We were just like, the Punishers, the man. We all bought Punisher t-shirts, Punisher action figures. I think the Punisher video game had also just come out,

which is one gory game. You can torture people in pretty horrific ways. I think your Punisher phase is around the time your Pyro phase starts. It's like those parts of your hormones are going into your body as a young boy. You start burning ants with a magnifying glass. Yeah, all that. And you're like, this dude kills villains. He's cool.

Even though the Punisher was introduced and he was hired by Jackal to kill Spider-Man. People forget about that. That was Punisher's introduction. It's a great cover. I remember that. It's like a yellow background on the cover, right? And it has the scope with spider-man in the middle of it it's a it's a it's an iconic cover um all right then we get to bastion on the ground he's got forge storm beast morph all of them captive with sentinels um they have a line where i think it's

forge says it to bast and he says like get your filthy paws off her yeah yeah yeah was that a planet of the apes like get your damn dirty you damn dirty ape was that i would imagine so has to be right has to be my brain is so broken i was thinking of troy mcclure get your hands off her you dirty ape oh when uh with the planet of the apes the war is like he can talk he can talk can you play the piano anymore of course you can well i could have before oh doctor's day is a great one someone reposted that recently and i watched it for the first time oh my god i was cracking up absolutely glad i mean and that's the same time as x-men you just

had x-men on saturdays simpsons on Sundays, Fox just churning out fucking gold every single day. Unbelievable. He tortures and gloats over Cable with Mr. Sinister and then goes back on his word with Sinister where he was like, I'll give you Cable or whatever. Then he's like, no, no, we got to kill Cable. He's just going to keep coming back and trying to get in the way of our future gene gray then comes back with the phoenix force and cable had a good line where he's like you should see what time has to say about my mom just the way he said it in his fucking like badass voice was so funny um she releases all the prime sentinels she fucks everyone up with with the phoenix force for a second at least um

rips the youth straight from mr sinister that's one ugly dude when he's completely revealed oh my god he's got like a megamind shaped head awarded and he goes up to morph and he's like show me what i look like and more fucking changes his face into it like a mirror. Oh, that was such a good scene. Clem morphs. Lucky. Didn't get canceled. I'll go shaming. That's like,

I feel like it's going to become a real problem here. I love that. That will be season two. Morph will be on trial for appropriating. You can't be doing that. I mean, since the first episode of the first season, I was waiting for more of like, more of getting his revenge on synergy. He's not going to be the guy who's going to like kill that. I mean, since the first episode of the first season,

I was waiting for Morph. Like, Morph getting his revenge on Sinister. He's not going to be the guy who's going to, like, kill Mr. Sinister, but at least, like, make him cry. And Morph made him cry. That feels good. The guy who, like, made you an undead, like, monster, make him cry. I think he's even now in the scorecards.

By God, that's the Phoenix's music. I think we were all thinking the same thing when she came there. And they've been hinting at this thing about if I, you know, if, if it had broken, right, I'd be in that picture or you would,

I would have been an X-Men. We're getting bastion as an X-Men in some timeline. I'm calling it right now. I don't know if it's season two, season three. Jose doesn't agree. So I'm going to go off that stance. I'm retracted. But it's like, they've just keep hinting at it.

Maybe it's like he was – it's like an absolute point where he never would be an X-Men. But it does feel like they've hinted at that so many times. His mom was just kind of a bitch. And by the way, Cable, hitting him with the dead mom joke, like, where's your mom? What the fuck was that, Cable? That was bananas. That was over the line. It was a finale level dig like, dig, though.

You know, they saved us for the finale. That's a WrestleMania level, like, zing. Like, we're at WrestleMania, anything goes. The whole crowd went, oh. And then Bastion rises up. This is a fucking theme throughout the episode. How many times does Bastion get defeated in the X-Men high five? And they're like,

we did it. And then Bastion rises up and you're like, Oh my God, guys, make sure he stopped breathing. Make sure you defeated him. He beats cable with his own arm. Like Buzz Lightyear when he loses his arm and then he uses the arm to

evolve or power up wings. Fucking, you know, different version of him. now he's no stronger obviously let me ask you this jose the wings he gets my first thought was those wings kind of look like onslaught we're hearing a lot about onslaught is there any way to retcon what onslaught is no to make the next version of bashed hammer no not no not at all because onslaught is to make the next version of Bastion Hammer? No, not at all. Because Onslaught is Professor X shuts down Magneto's mind and kind of absorbs him into his own.

And then Magneto's evil thoughts kind of creep into the back of Professor X's mind. So Onslaught is a psionic entity with the minds of both Magneto and Professor X. So it's the most good and most evil and the two most powerful ones. Bastion's wings reminded me of Archangel's wings. Because Archangel is obviously one of Apocalypse, is the horseman of death, I believe. That's what it looks like to me. If they do, because I thought for sure we were on the route to onslaught. It doesn't seem like that's the immediate bad guy right now.

If they retcon it, it would be a little, it would be strange. That would be a strange decision because there, you would need them. You would need to do the professor X Magneto thing and have him like plug in somehow, something like that.

Because you also, you also can't have onslaught without Franklin Richards. Like that's also a big part, which Something like that. You also can't have Onslaught without Franklin Richards. That's also a big part, which is Mr. Fantastic and Invisible Girl's son. We're on the way, but it's step one. The seeds have been planted.

Now, does Bastion become this version of himself in the comic books at all? Is he already like that? Yeah, he absolutely becomes like that. Oh, he does? Yeah, like, it seems like every time Bastion shows up, he's, like, more evolved and more evolved

and more evolved. I don't remember him having the wings. I remember him having, like, his body's, like, made of metal or something like that. And it seems like he has, um and it seems like he has like it looks like he has the same body as colossus and he has like spikes coming out his arms and everything so he does go pretty aggro at one point like like i said when i was in the studio he's not like on the level of magneto or apocalypse or dr doom or anything like that he's not

on the mount rushmore of supervillains, but he would be on the level of the Riddler. He pops in and you know shit's going down, but he's not the Joker or Two-Face. Is he higher or lower than his daddy-old Nimrod? I personally like Bastion more than Nimrod. If you were to give me two stories I would always almost always read Bastion's arcs yeah I mean like Bob

said when you like if you had like an older brother whatever you get hit stop hitting yourself stop hitting yourself with your own fucking arm and then he takes it that was an old time move and I also had to look this up Jose you might remember this is definitely where Robbie's time you remember Silverhawks do I know Silverhawks come on dog i offended you i apologize sir

it's a throwback from all the old time there i do want to shout out theo james who did the voice of bastion all season straight vocal performance really really good and he just he sounds naturally evil in an impressive way all of those monologues just had like this i don't know if it's like a rich voice if it's half robot obviously it's oh such a good performance that dude believes in what he's saying like that guy's a problem he should be on the list now like just in case he has some some issues with him um wolverine professor x magneto they're all passed out on the ship in the asteroid and they try to get them on the ship and you know make sure that their pulses are still going and whatnot

so the super bastion is headed up there at the time roberto says his goodbyes i kind of liked this scene where he says his goodbyes and rogue is basically like shut up don't do that we're gonna get through this the x-men like the odds are always in our favor and then you see tachaka and steve rogers urge president kelly not to bomb asteroid m i thought this was really cool seeing black panther i didn't expect to see him especially out of all the like rumored cameos you think the spider-mans the american when they show him and then it's tachaka i wanted more mcu tachaka even you could do it now in flashbacks i've said time and time again i sent it to clem this week his mcu fit with the like african robes around him oh my god that's one of the coolest

costumes they've ever come out with and we didn't get any like action scenes in it so i thought this was cool seeing tachaka and seeing him give a very black panther kind of statement to the president where he's like history will look back on you not well if you go forward with this and the dormilage are in the background that was nice as well i also love the 90s black panther like the the collar and the collar and all that. That's a great throwback. That's what I'm saying. Like, it was just like a love letter to the 90s comic books. Like, and it's because I agree with you.

Black Panther was not on my bingo card. He was popular, but he was not even. He was not a top 10 Marvel character in the night. Yeah, it was fun. I liked him when he would pop in now and then. But that was probably like a throw like a a bait for modern comic book fans which is fine you need those and it made sense with like you know he's running a country and he's talking to a president about this un type issue so it worked

i enjoyed it clem what do you think about iron man in the sitting in the room not speaking up when captain america did yeah like i think i think i was probably running some shit behind Clem, what do you think about Iron Man sitting in the room not speaking up when Captain America did? Yeah, like, I think Iron Man was probably running some shit behind the scenes we didn't see. I mean, we can just bring up what happened in Infinity War and whose fault it is, but I feel like this is going to be like a half-hour conversation. Jose's going to take my side, and then it's going to get awkward. Oh, by the way, Jose, thanks for— No, no, no. I think Jose's on Captain America's side in MCU Civil War. Civil War is- Is that the Captain America movie? Yes.

I haven't seen it. Oh, fuck. All right, we'll have to get your thoughts on it. There's a lot of backstory. Captain America is right. I'll explain later. In Civil War, the comic book, I am very pro Captain America. Like, the comic book, Iron Man was basically the bad guy. And the movies, Captain America didn't tell Iron Man that his best friend killed Iron Man's mom and dad. And he knew about it the whole time.

That's a bit of a bummer. Yeah, yeah. All right, all right. That's a bit of a bummer. That was his friend. And you know what? It wasn't him. It was the Winter Soldier. That was his friend. And you know what? It wasn't him. It was the Winter Soldier.

It was his friend. Bob, listen. We'll take this one off. If I kill someone's mom and dad, you can rat me out. I'm a fucking scumbag, okay? What if it's not you? What if you turn into a Prime Sentinel and you're dead? Still a scumbag.

Still a scumbag. I would stick up for you. I would be like, that wasn't my guy. That's actually a great point. These Prime Sentinel folks folks are gonna have some did you see speaking of did you see carol danvers as a sentinel no when they they were like they were showing they were like showing all the prime sentinels and they like lingered on this like blonde woman and i was like that's very clearly captain marvel and i like rewound it and pause

it's definitely her like it has like the blue thing and everything. Because Carol Danvers was in one episode of X-Men, the original run. That's right. That's how Ro gets her flight and super strength. Same as the comic book when she touches it for too long and absorbs those powers permanently. But so Carol Danvers, Captain Marvel was Prime Sentinel. Also, how many Prime Sentinels did the X-Men kill when they were being attacked? Wolverine was slicing and dicing.

That was just like Mary and Joe from down the block. That's a tough break for the ones that were in the close vicinity of the X-Men. The ones in California or something were probably fine. I mean, again, that's like 10 minutes from my house.

It's like, oh, my house like oh my favorite restaurant closed well because the owners are prime sentinels and wolverine has their body i mean you might be like in trouble like you would be the one that would probably be able to make it to the mansion quick yeah well you have to get this airbnb taken care of we've submitted to airbnb i know we go say our nice three of us yeah um rogue in an awesome heroic moment fucks bastion up just beats the brakes off of him for a while and she has this line where she's like gambit that was his name remember it boom fucking starts hitting him uh he eventually reverses he's choking her he rises up they're like almost like space and stuff. I think they are in space.

Sunspot comes in to save the day. Even one day after using his powers, he's finally doing it. Nightcrawler, Jubilee, Cyclops attack him next. They mess him up. Another moment where they basically beat him. They think they got it, and they're like, woohoo. And then he comes back scott had a very dad fighting at his daughter's softball game line you'll never hurt my family again that really made me laugh and then he get dummy two seconds later like two seconds later completely

thrown against the wall it's like oh yeah that's that cyclops is burning butter man get real aggro blast someone with laser vision and they get punched really hard it was cool well lasted you know it was like drake putting out that this track and then kendrick hit him with one like five minutes later like the drake fans did have those five minutes where they were like yes we did a lot of a lot of my a lot of a couple of my friends that were big into the the x-men street or x-men versus capcom game yeah said that was a nod to the game you know i've never played that game but i guess one of his finisher moves is when he takes it off and it's just like so a lot of people were very excited about that you know i never got into that game

because i was never into any of the capcom characters so like i wanted it to just be marvel versus marvel and maybe you were able to do that in the game but when i watched like the pre-roll at the arcade that they would play before you put a coin in i'd always be like i don't care about like sailor moon or whoever i i like i i liked it a lot it's just at that point my like it was too much special moves like i if i played someone on the arcade game i just get work but it was perfect i have a rayu figure right there so i was i'm a pew street fighter guy and then obviously x-men so i just get wolverine and you just claw the fuck out of people with wolverine so i loved it well the time i played i ran train with juggernaut

that was juggernaut oh nice i believe they have an x-men 97 cabin someone um tweeted at me oh wow so i was like i was like don't you think they should launch like a like the x-men side scroller but just with the 97 cast like 100 absolutely 100 and and you do the uh you make mojo the villain the main villain for yes there we go yeah that's so awesome we would love that i also love the they had like the like slow version like the church version i put of the x-men song like they were kind of like yeah i had a note about that too it was like operatic or something it reminded me of the and especially when they go for the at the end when they're all kind of committed to making a sacrifice it reminded me of the opera version of the like score that plays at the end of the dark knight rises when batman's making his sacrifice and he's flying out over the ocean and everything the bay whatever it is um bastion heads jubilee

with a pretty pretty good fourth of july joke when he's like what are you gonna hit me with the fourth of july but then she does hit him with the fourth of july i think he probably regretted it and he turns into like a zombie robot which is pretty fucking creepy and gets the medal ranking for the week that was pretty metal when he fucking whips his head back up his jaw swinging every which way i gotta i gotta say jubilee i apologize i didn't realize your game or whatever did she have that in her bag jubilee i think my it's not a complaint because she's a kid, but young Jubilee was very much like the quirky sidekick that would just kind of get in trouble,

and then Wolverine would have to save her and this and that. I was – especially at the – well, I'm sure we're going to get to it when all the X-Men get ready to fight, and she puts her sunglasses down down and it's like cracked. I was like, oh, this is the Jubilee that I've been screaming for for like five, since this show started after the Mojo episode. I'm like, just let her go off.

Just let her go off because she has it in there and I want to see her get her flowers and this episode nailed it. It was awesome. The 90s Jubilee one from the original show that was like oh she's a kid just like me she could be and now they're just like yeah fuck you kid well now we're all grown up they're like we're gonna make jubilee girl she fucking rules in generation x the the comic book which is like the teenage x-men she is such a good character and i'm i'm glad now she's

kind of back back in the zeitgeist of x-men because she wasn't really well utilized especially in the late 2000s good and i mean let's be honest sunspot kind of sucks so we could hate him and his family and she can now be like a whole new character i would have loved a put it in reverse terry line if they could have snuck that in there that's right i mean i missed that video when it first happened so i learned about it like only like four or five years ago and it's that's one of my favorites ever people don't know what we're talking about it's an all-time fourth of july video where this guy in like one of the motorized wheelchairs just lights a thing and just stays right next to the firework and they start going

off guy screams out of put it in reverse great moment though great action scene that shows the x-men working together you know the way nightcrawler was like popping in and out bamfing and fucking cypress hitting them still good i was a first thing i was so nervous when nightcrawler was doing that because i don't want bastion to just like kill him kill him yeah like, please don't die, Nightcrawler. I was, this episode specifically, I was such a fan of they would take, because they're a

team, but we've never really seen in the comic books, like if they have, like I haven't read it, is like Nightcrawler, Jubilee, and Cyclops is such a random combo that we, and I loved that. Like, this episode had random teams.

Like, we've seen Jubilee and Wolverine. We've seen Wolverine and Gambit. We've seen Rogue and Gambit. We've seen Rogue and Magneto. We've seen Cyclops and Beast, but like, Nightcrawler and Jubilee and Cyclops are just so fundamentally different characters and they just worked so well together in this scene. This was

my favorite scene of this episode of that fight. It's like in Always Sunny, it's like Rickety Cricket, Dennis, and Charlie's mom. You're like, these three are together but I kind of love them. Why are you in the same room right now? And Nightcrawler

is like that dude. I'm a Mankind fan growing up. And it's like it's like this might be a little too big for you right now mick i don't want the undertaker just to smash you right and nightcrawler like you said like don't kill him please don't kill him it's cool um before we continue i want to tell everyone about one of our favorite sponsors game time if you're looking to buy tickets to anything game time can hook it up. Looking at their app right now in New York City, you can buy tickets for Red Bulls at NYC FC at Yankee Stadium for $14 right now.

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All right. And then at this point, we get a return of the Jedi moment, which I loved. The Sentinel comes flying down and you're like, oh, another Sentinel or whatever. And then it stomps on Bastion and Beast is in the Sentinel. And it's like, oh, Chewbacca is in the AT-ST. Such a great moment. And Beast drops like a funny line about being a Trojan horse or something. And then he just keeps

pushing down and Bastion just keeps pushing up and it's an unstoppable force and an immovable object. There's no, you know, movement being made either way. So Cyclops is like, fuck it. Let's embrace the future. Let's offer him a gig. Let's see if he wants to join the fam.

And in a very again kind of return of the jedi you take this super bad guy and you're like maybe there's some light in him maybe let's again they say embrace the future uh but bombs just hit the asteroid and he escapes i don't think he was going to join anyway though nah no way i i've been i my whole theory of this has been squashed like and squashed that theory basically If there's someone out there that knows that Bastian becomes a good guy let me know because I've never read it

but it might be out there because X-Men is long and chaotic and for all we know he's a good guy now I don't want him to be a good guy because he's such a cocksucker I wouldn't mind seeing a be a good guy because he's such a cocksucker. I wouldn't mind seeing a universe where it's like little bad, little seppy.

He's just happy and he's not even like let me have his powers or something. Fuck him. He's persona non grata. Rebuke. I'm pretty sure we rebuked him at some point in this season. Rebuke, yeah. That's so funny. The asteroid starts exploding when the season. Yeah, fuck him. That's so funny. That's so funny.

The asteroid starts exploding when the bombs hit it, heading for Earth. And they start working together for a plan to save the day. The plan pretty much being we have to make sure we destroy this asteroid. Like if everyone works together, destroys the asteroid, maybe that'll save the day. At some point in this chaos morph also turns into mr fantastic for just like a quick second and when i watched the first time i didn't see morph turn into him because again it's like a blink and you miss it cameo i just saw mr fantastic helping out and then kept watching and no one was acknowledging it and i was like maybe a minute passed and i was like all right i'm gonna have to go back and see what happened there. Because why is nobody acknowledging Reed Richards on the asteroid right now?

But no, that was another one where, like the Hulk one, it didn't feel gratuitous, even though like on paper you might think it is. It just is such a cool way to expand this universe. He also turned into Sauron, which is a pterodactyl type villain from the x-men world that lives in the savage land it can drain your life force with with his touch and he can create an army of uh like dinosaur creatures he's like professor x's colleague and he names himself after the lord of the rings villain when you when it's crazy like he gets out of the ring but it's pretty metal he gets bit by like a mutant pterodactyl and like turns into a pterodactyl and then when he like absorbs your life force he gets

stronger but if he absorbs like mutant life force if he comes like this mutated it's like it is a very metal thing and there's a very funny there's a very fun i don't i can't remember he's a scientist and he's friends with professor x was a very funny panel and panel. And this, it might be Spider-Man. He's like, you could cure cancer, but all you want to do is create an army of dinosaurs. He's like, yeah, I'll do it again. And he like flies around. I've seen that. Yeah, it's very funny. I've seen that before, yeah. I love that.

He's a goofy character. He's the main bad guy when the, after Avengers disassembled in the early 2000s, I want to say 03, and then they do new Avengers. They have to go to the Savage Land, and Sauron is like their first bad guy. Wow. That's a big moment for him, it seems like. I think

he might be in the arcade game, too. I feel like he might be in that standpoint, right? Yeah, 100%. I didn't realize he took the name, because it's always like, it's like, why the fuck did they use the name? Because obviously it's the Lord of the Rings. I love that he took it because of the Lord of the Rings character. And Bob, like you said, like, Bastion bastion is like they propose the thing to bachelor come join us yada yada and he's just like look out the window those are the people you want to save those dickhead humans it's like the opposite of uh when debo throws out the the bomb

detonator in dark night right yeah it's like goddamn humans like it's like i turn on the news it's like five other things that we have i turn on the news it's like five other things that we have done in the real world that is like terrible and you kind of just see it go on screen and now we're like living out the armageddon script where it's like we have to blow up the asteroid before it hits earth pretty much they we should have sent some oil driller mutants up there have you guys ever watched the ben Affleck director's commentary? It's so good. It's so good.

Picking every plot hole apart in the movie. It's so funny. Why would you just teach scientists how to drill? Ben might be back on the market, by the way. There's rumors that him and Jen broke up, and there was such a good tweet. Best tweet about it. Someone said, every Duncan should fly their flag at half math this is tougher Mr. New Englander Hosea

we don't claim JLo we still love Ben Affleck and Matt Damon though and she's Jenny from the Bronx too I didn't even think about that oh man that's tough that's tough Cyclops pretty much accepts death and says it to gene he's

like this is what you would do i'll sacrifice myself and let's have one more conversation with our son they hollow talk to him through her psychic abilities they say their goodbyes and a very very adult emotional moment this is another moment where i was kind of picturing a kid watching this i was like this is gonna make kids cry this is really fucking sad where he's like i don't want to make the same mistake my father made i want to say goodbye to you they're talking about each other's eyes you have your father's eyes they're beautiful cyclops shows his eyes this is such an emotional moment even with cable you know kind of playing it and they're like, oh, it's going to be one of these goodbyes, huh? Yeah, right.

I mean, he was great this season. He was he was weaved in perfectly. He was. And I am a self-proclaimed I'm not a big Cable fan in the comic books. I don't like anything Rob Lightfield has created. Oh, that felt like a shot. Yeah. People.

Here's the thing. There are some people that have been following my comic book, like, journey online for, like, a while. And it's him and Todd McFarlane are, like, persona non grata to me. I've done full videos of, wow. When I used to work at Ranker, I did a full video on why Rob Liefeld is a turd. And I stand by that. I don't really like anything he's created ever like ever like mitch includes deadpool i'm not a big deadpool guy um but i understand why he's popular he's just he's just never been my thing i don't like cable i

don't like shatter star i don't like any of these like goofy characters um they're they're just two 90s for me even in the 90s they were too 90s they were very 90s they were like extreme but it started with an X I'm like move on they're like the great oil covers yeah so I just wasn't a fan but I

wasn't a fan of the character but I love his lore and I love all the stories he's involved in I just don't like his it might just be because it's he's involved in i just don't like his it might just be because it's rob liefield and i don't like rob liefield maybe yeah but uh cable ruled in this rule quite that's interesting for me to learn like the jose legend grows like he's got some enemies bring it on man i i'm with you jose because like i didn't like cable back then and i said it um i've been going into it for anywhere.

Thanos, like space cosmic Marvel was too much for me to handle. I did not like the way that they were. I don't know if he was even, by like the third page, I'm like, all right, this is too much. This is too heady for me. And obviously he's like my favorite character in the MCU now. And Cable is kind of like the much lesser version of that. This one was much more easier to consume and like i'm kind of interested to see what happens with him you know in the many many

we'll get to it we will get so this part i want you to also explain to some people jose because the asteroid continues going down charles and Magneto in their dream-like world are drowning. You see the water crashing in and stuff. Morph turns into Jean Grey and confesses his love to Wolverine, which Bo DeMayo has been on tour. He's like, yup, that is the moment where Morph is confessing his love. Another person had a great tweet about this where they were like, yeah, X-Men is a soap opera where he's confessing his love to Wolverine,

but Wolverine loves Jean, but Jean loves Scott, were like yeah x-men is a soap opera where he's confessing his love to wolverine but wolverine loves gene but gene loves scott but scott loves madeline and madeline was gene and it's literally like this is explaining a soap opera to someone nightcrawler saying a prayer and you also see peter parker mary jane and flash thompson all watching this on the news together. And everyone's rejoicing about this on Twitter. Oh, my God. Peter Parker found Mary Jane after all these years. Jose, why is this such a big problem? Bro, I text so many people about this.

This has been a cliffhanger for like 30 years. You don't. It's unbelievable. I can't even describe how crazy this is like the end of the spider-man run is essentially how the spider-verse was created it's the original spider-verse like you've seen all that you've seen that photo i've showed both you guys where it's like all the spider-man talking mary jane like fought like she is kind of stands in for gwen stacy in the comic in in the show where Norman Osborn like throws her off

the ledge of like a bridge or a building or something. And she falls through like an interdimensional time vortex or something and is like lost in time. So Peter Parker's like, I have to get Mary Jane. And of course, like at some point, Mary Jane became like hydro girl and her body like disintegrated with water and mud and then it was like it's very stupid but she falls into this time vortex and peter parker has to like figure it out and at one point like he goes into like our world and meets stan lee like it's spider-man talking to stan lee and stan lee voices it and he's like well you have to go find her and this and that and then then he goes to find Mary Jane.

And then it never came back. It never picked up. So the fact that they showed this Peter Parker and that Mary Jane in those outfits in this universe was such a jaw-dropping moment to me. It was – I can't – there's no equivalent. There's no equivalent in the Star Wars universe. There's no equivalent in the Star Wars universe. There's no equivalent in the Star Wars universe. It would be like if they never made the Boba Fett show,

and then they just show Boba Fett watching television. Like, oh, I guess he survived the Sarlacc thing. You know? But they made it, and he had no lines like they just they show every they show all the ewoks celebrating like not even the ewoks like they show finn and what was the name poe whatever his name is celebrating and then there's just old man drinking in the corner that happens to be boba fett same thing it would be like oh there's the mystery solved he didn't die he came out the back end and is just kind of chilling.

This was an unbelievable cameo. Like, if this season was bad and we hated this show, that cameo would have made it worth it. That's incredible. Unbelievable. I think I'd text, like, 30 people about that in one cameo and it was just all of them like he found nj and like giant it was great i was i was so pleased at this i was so happy it's so fucking sad people were talking about the cameo and i'm like i didn't see what

the fuck are they talking i didn't see spider-man anywhere and it's like because they were just the civilians they were peter and clem i missed it too he missed it too oh and it's like because they were just the civilians they were peter and i missed it too oh and it's right i didn't see him right away yeah and it's it's based on what's happening in the in the comic books right now in the current amazing spider-man run to see like peter parker and mary jane have like a happy ending is just the cherry on top because that's all anyone wants for peter it's all man this would this was awesome this made me think doing a continuation of the 90s spider-man seems like a no-brainer when you look at the numbers for x-men 97 not only the numbers but the critical acclaim and how much like goodwill this has bought marvel for what i'm sure is cheaper than a movie or television production live action but they also

have their friendly neighborhood spider-Man cartoon in the works right now. And I was so excited for that. Spider-Man cartoons at once. I don't know if they want to do that. I was so excited for that Spider-Man show. Cause I'm a big fan of Spider-Man in high school. That's like my favorite iteration of Spider-Man,

but I text my other friend who me and him text about comic books pretty much all day. And I was like, forget that show. Scrap that, throw that, forget it. Give me spider-man 94 all day give me the original showrunners because i don't know if you guys don't know anything about the production of that show they can't use real guns so everything every gun in that show is a laser and you can't you can't punch people in the face in that show like spider-man can't punch green goblin you can only

kick him so like everything is rule i know but it's but it's a rule from like the because it's supposed to be a kid's show so all the policemen have like laser guns the bold might have had a weird that was a that was a kid show like that too but like all that all the all of the police have like laser guns and like when spider-Man has to fight Mysterio, he does a triple backflip and kicks him in the face. It's great. And I love it. And I remember some of the animators,

they made the... I don't know the terminology for it. But sometimes it slows down because the frame rate of their animation was too fast for the technology at the time everything it's like all of a sudden weirdly slow motion keep all of that keep all of it i don't want punish to the face i don't want real bullets i want lasers and stupid quirks and quips from spider-man i'm here for all of it forget the other spider-man

stuff just give me that all day um in the x-Men, Magneto wakes up, of course, at the last second to save the day. He sends the asteroid back to space and then it blows up and vanishes and almost like the sprinkle dust falls from it. Bastion approach or not Bastion Bishop approaches Forge about finding the X-Menmen it kind of does it tell us there was a time jump or just imply there's a time jump to tell us yeah i think it was a six seven months later from that's what it might maybe i imagine that but in my mind it's like several months later like it said something like that yeah um but bishop comes to forge and he's like we gotta find the x-men they're out

there and you could tell forge is a fucking wall lined up well a lot of names that wall is a um an homage to the days of future past comic cover right which is the greatest comic book in x-men history um and similar with all the yellow slashes with the writing on it. And it's funny because if you remember the original X-Men run, Bishop works with Forge in the future. So this Forge doesn't know that yet. So that's why Bishop was kind of joking around with him. He's like, I literally work with you every day. But you're the younger version of my colleague. So this was great.

I paused it. It was like a Scarlet Witch it which yeah i wrote it down because i text you like right when it was it was scarlet witch colossus dust for whatever reason which is a very new like 2005 character i don't even know just yeah basically just sandman but uh like a middle eastern woman very cool character um but like a weird i don't know why she was in this she's not that big archangel magic which i was very excited for ice man havoc which is uh cyclops's brother exodus quicksilver shadow cat we finally get kitty pride and emma frost who eventually leads the x-men um in the future let's go clem big emma frost person i don't believe that was such a cool

tease though that was good stuff because the people i don't know if you guys maybe Clem, you might have seen it because it was obviously way back in the day was the pilot for the original X-Men animated show. I believe it's called Pride of X-Men. And Kitty Pride is like the main story behind. And then they just never used her in the show. So I'm happy she's back. Everything about Kitty Pride. She I know her. I know people love her. story behind and then they just never used her in the show so i'm happy she's back everything about kitty pride she i know her i know people love her i've she's just never really entered my world i think i saw the show and then she just disappeared like i feel like we just like

pass each other in the night and we just i feel like she's a very big deal right her and colossus are an item and actually a really beloved item and she is the one so days of future past when the x-men uh from the future sends kitty pride to the past to like save the day she's like the main days of future past is it's probably between that and dark night the dark night the uh dark phoenix saga like the two famous ones from that time. And she is the main, basically the main catalyst for Days of Future Past. So she's a very integral character. And I don't know if you're still reading it, Robbie, but she becomes a kind of a big character in Ultimate Spider-Man.

She dates Peter Parker for a long while. And it's actually a really fun, I was a big fan of their relationship. And then she quits the X-Men and joins like Peter she goes to Peter Parker's high school and they had like a little teenage superhero crime fighting thing with Human Torch and Iceman and it's a lot of fun

we're gonna talk a little Days of Future Past next week as well the movie where they do give a little Kitty Pryde intro they don't make her like she's not the main character of the movie but they do pay a little homage with the intro being kitty pride and i have seen i have seen walls with sentinels i have seen that one i've seen all i've seen every x-men movie um that was really good i like i think that's i think that one and x2 are good first class is really good days of future past is good but the days of future past comic book

is so interesting because she goes back in time and goes into her kid body while she's in the danger room and she's just like and but it's so interesting because she's like Colossus you're alive because in her time like he's dead or something like that so it's a lot of fun I'm gonna give myself a pat on the back because I'm watching that scene

and I'm like that's the Day of Future Past like they're living that sign being put together and I didn't hear anyone else mention it I didn't see anything i'm like come on guys it's right there i'm sure a million people caught it so i'm happy that uh and i i said it too like i know ice man was in the original animated series i loved it i loved ice man i loved it i loved his toy and i would love to have him around this This toy was great. It came with the slide thing. Yeah, it was great. So there's classifications for mutants, like levels, like levels one through five,

for power. And then there's omega-level mutant, which is an Iceman. Yeah, people that can affect molecular structure or affect reality. So Iceman is an omega- level superhero and a little too powerful. He's a little overpowered sometimes because he can

freeze water. Yeah. Is his personality... I always thought he was an alright guy. Is he kind of a prick in the comic book? Because I think they made him a prick in the cartoon. He's a bro. He's just like a bro-y kid. His parents don't

want him or like don't believe that he's immune oddly enough uh in the early 2000s it came out that he was gay the whole time uh and it's and it was it was it's divisive not in the sense that he was gay because like it's the x-men so it's like who cares but like the way they it was weird like it was stop me if you've heard this one before the x-men went through the time portal they met their suit they met like their few their younger selves and bobby drake from like the past came out to it's either jean gray or kitty and then she like teenage bobby came out and then i think it was gene gray was like bobby you're gay and like the modern day and he's just like who told you and he's like you did but like your younger self told me so it was like that was very silly

but it was like in the end of the day no one cared he was also i think one of the only he might have been the only x-men that got to keep his powers in House of M2. That was also an interesting time. Interesting. Also, there is that one shot of Rogue on like a boat. So that's the background. You could see Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver and Polaris and Polaris

who is another X-Men. She has the same powers as magneto she can control magnet she's like magnetic and control metal she was in you know that giant that famous giant size x-men with all them running through it's like the introduction of colossus and storm and wolverine uh so that story is they go to krakowa and the x-men disappear which is why they have to recruit the new x-Men Polaris is part of that team that disappeared with Havoc because they're an item

but I think the original arc was like Magneto was like I'm your father weirdly enough but then turns out he wasn't and then she I think she becomes she dies it's like she dies comes back to life she's with Havoc I think Iceman

liked her too she wasn't that big of a character like she dies comes back to life she's with havoc she's i think ice man liked her too it's she wasn't that big of a character like she was cool but she wasn't like she's not on the same level as rogue scarlet witch or quicksilver and uh bishop tells forge it's not about where the x-men are it's about when the x-men are and then they show us rogue is with nightcrawler beast professor x and magneto in 3000 bc in what looks like maybe like egypt or something yeah um yep they they meet n sabah ner who is n sabah ner that is the original birth name of apocalypse. Oh, so that they are. So they are going to,

I said to begin, they're going to use three arcs for season two. And the, the one that, that, that world is, which is like Magneto professor X and everyone is going to be based off of the, it's a mini series.

It's four or five issues, early two thousands called rise of apocalypse, which shows his origin where he is he has the mutant gene so his skin is like gray and white so he's kind of like abandoned by his tribe in in uh egypt time um but he doesn't have powers yet and he's a slave to ramatut who is just a variant of Kang the Conqueror. Kang the Conqueror, because Kang the Conqueror came back in time. You guys know we've gone over this. He knows what Apocalypse is going to be, what Evan Ser is going to become.

So he tries to get him and stuff. He's stumped. And then stop me if you heard this one. This slave stumbles upon a cave cave and there's celestial technology in there so he uses it he uses it to kind of like kind of op himself like power up and then you know he takes over and uh becomes a pot he literally names himself apocalypse because his immune powers is like he controls molecular structure like he can go big and get small he can get like hard as a rock he can go through

walls he's immortal um and then from there apocalypse basically does like he fights as guardian thor in like the year 1600 bc he fight there's a weird storyline where he fights dracula a bunch so it's like dracula versus apocalypse which sounds crazy but it's a lot of fun because you know first is vlad the Impaler and then Dracula. He creates Mr. Sinister. He teams up with Van Helsing to fight Dracula, if I remember correctly. A lot of vampire shit. Wow.

He fights the High Evolutionary from the Guardians of the Galaxy movie because High Evolutionary wants to wipe out a bunch of living people deemed unworthy and apocalypse like that will that will unbalance life just like danos said it um there's this really cool story called acts of vengeance where all of the super villains like trade like heroes to fight like they team up and they're like well you can't beat spider-man so i'll try to be spider-man and they like they like they do a good they win like the superhero but the problem is they're super villains and they don't get along so like they just need a coach yeah but loki and apocalypse have this big fight and it's really cool and that's where you get the really cool scene where um magneto goes after the red skull because because the Red Skull is obviously a Nazi. Oh, that's good.

Which is like a combo you probably never thought about. But Magneto goes like bananas. We ain't on the same team. Well, he chases him and then puts him in a catacomb, like 20 feet underground with no light and just a couple jugs of water and then abandons him and then like many issues later they find red skull like emaciated in like this cave it's very interesting wow but yeah apocalypse slaps he's a good he's a good character but that is so we're gonna see the origin of Apocalypse. On that world, yes.

In this time, yes. And then we've got Cyclops and Jean Grey in 3960 AD. They meet a group called Clan Ascani led by an old woman named Lady Ascani, I think. Mother Ascani. And they bring out a boy and they're like oh and there's a boy here his name is Nathan what the fuck is going on and mother Ascani's real name is Rachel Summers

um who is raised by who is raised by cable who is also sort of her brother because the x-men and time just don't work together um this was a little cool little arc i tweeted it but and they changed it up a bit in this one i want to say rachel summers goes get sent to the future i'm trying to this is this is where it gets is different in the show she gets

sent to the future and then she pulls their minds just gene gray and cyclops's minds into the future so they get put into these bodies that aren't theirs and i think it's like red and slim is their name and then they raise cable as like his parents but they never tell him that like we're actually your parents in our mind in the mind yeah um and then they clone cableable, if I remember correctly. And then do you remember? You guys, do you watch the animated Spider-Man show? Remember that villain Strife with like the horns coming out his back? You would recognize him.

He's like a very goofy character. That clone eventually becomes Strife. Oh, yeah. But Mother Exani is like a rebel leader to Apocalypse. And they show her. Heavy spoilers pointed this out. They showed her in Bastion when he's talking about, like, the world where mutants are slaves. She's, like, just using her powers to, like, build the Golden Gate, like, fix the Golden Gate Bridge or something. And this is, again, this is where the X-Men get overly complicated.

This is one potential ending for Rachel Summers. Because Rachel Summers is also, I believe she's raised by Cable, too, like I said. So I can't remember. It's like a whole, I get her and Hope Summers confused quite a bit. Because they're both like redheads that just get sucks through time constantly but she's fine like rachel summer like this is the best rachel summers in my opinion her mother is connie run the way that her and the clan approach them on this wherever they are looks like a weird planet or something earth yeah everything is

the way that they get approached reminded me so much of quantumania the way that the weird like crew approached scott and his daughter when they go down to the quantum realm and then we get um a mid-credit scene after this where they also tell us it's like present-day genosha they pretty much tell us apocalypse is coming next season he picks up a card from the ground and he's like so much death or something like that so this line maybe four horsemen of the apocalypse type thing yeah so this one so the first arc whether in egypt is going to be rise of apocalypse the jean gray and cyclops one is going to be based off of very original name the adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix.

And then the one with the one, the mid credit scene is going to be called blood of a pot is most likely going to be blood of apocalypse. If not, they're going to take aspects of it where it's post house of them or Scarlet, which like eradicated, like mutants are now like near extinct.

And apocalypse returns to like, kind of be this like symbol of hope and he's basically like jesus christ of uh the mutants that like their savior and he gambit is his horseman of death he's like one of because originally it was angel and he said multiple and then it's i think it's gazer's war gazer was a depowered mutant astronaut that like flew to space to kill himself but then magneto it didn't work out to kill himself but then magneto didn't work out in apocalypse i'm not magneto apocalypse made him death sunfire i believe is famine and then polaris is pestilence because she's like a scientist and gambit as death and

this run did not last long at all like it was kind of they kind of rebooted x-man and kind of bulldozed everything all the like they knocked over the building before it was done being built to restart, as one does. But the death version of Gambit with the white hair and the pale blue skin and everything is very iconic and very popular. To the point where I'm surprised this is the route they're going because I think this is early 2000s. But it would make sense because he was a very popular character. This specific Gambit, and it's a way to bring him back. And he comes

back as a, he's a good guy when he comes back, right? No, well, he's death, so his mind is not there. Like, he's Gambit's body working for Apocalypse. Okay, when you were saying apocalypse was the symbol of hope i know no he is very evil he is still very ill okay he's like using the like i can save you type thing but not really gotcha i should have you know what i should have put that

together but the apocalypse have you ever heard of darth plages the tale there you go exactly but uh you guys after this should go look up like gambit like horseman of the apocalypse it's very metal as you would say like red hair what like i mean white hair red eyes black skin wearing armor with like chains and swords on them it's he was very wow looking at him now holy shit i like his long hair there's very long hair is awesome is he trading in all his like gambling puns and kind of like yeah you talk like sex yeah you're like just death puns at this point yeah pretty much but again i also liked the version of him they showed in this season when he just looked like an inner skeleton like if they went with that look with the blue or something that would be fun but like i said like that they never

like that arc with apocalypse and gammon everything just net like blood of apocalypse and never got a ton of traction because they just keep resetting everything and like they did their best and i don't know i'm gonna be interesting to see how they do it. Like if they kind of close out some of the loose ends of that arc in the TV, I think would be a lot of fun. I would put X-Men 97 up there with Andor, Loki, and The Mandalorian as like this is my Mount Rushmore of Disney Plus shows. Marvel, Star Wars, boom. This is it. It's a perfect season of television that I feel like I could truly recommend to like non comic book fans.

It's not too complicated where they couldn't get into it. So those are my overall thoughts. I tweeted. I think it really is arguable. I have such a nostalgic soft spot in my heart for the movies, but I think it's very arguable that this is the best iteration of the X men outside of the comics. there's ever been without question yeah i said this season of x-men was the best first season i've seen since ichiro went and won rookie of the year and mvp his first

year in america and it kind of makes sense too because like i was gonna say the x-men had the animated series and then this was their version of like each row. He had his Japanese years, but then he came to Major League Baseball. And it's like it's a different thing, but it's the same thing. And it's just fucking. It's awesome. Yeah, this is season six, technically, but we'll call it an inaugural season. Yeah, I agree.

I also I was a big fan. I like all the animated X-Men, all of them. Like Wolverine X-Men wasine in X-Men was fine X-Men Evolution was awesome I don't know if you guys watched that Robbie 2003 did you ever watch that Clem I think I caught a couple here and there

Rob you should watch it's like four seasons on Disney Plus but they're all like 22 minute long episodes it's more of a modern telling of the X-Men. So it's got cool artwork. Yeah. But all,

but Wolverine is what I loved about it was Wolverine is, is an adult. He's one of the professors. Cause in this one, I think it's Wolverine and storm or the original X-Men. So they're adults and professors. And then like all the other X-Men are teenagers in high school. So they don't have the dynamic of like Jean gray cyclops and wolverine it's very and then they used a lot of the scenes from buffy the vampire

slayer and just animated it for the show oh like the action stuff like almost yeah is it rotoscoping is that something like that same as like they go to a school dance and it's basically just the dance from buffy the vampires wow that's fine um and this is where uh so similar to you know who what x you you've seen logan the movie of course yeah uh x23 was created in x-men evolution similar to harley quinn in batman the animated series x23 did not and she because she was so popular that they just wrote her into the comic book so um when you guys are all done watching the x-men movies and you're all done with x-men 97 you guys should really get a look at x-men evolution i have i think that is a one notch below but fantastic nonetheless yeah check it out yeah especially because i gotta wait a year for this

shit to come back at least the timing of it happening in 2003 it must have taken some inspiration from the movies as well even without you telling me like logan was the older one like that makes a little sense to all the suits are like black and white and yellow yeah when i'm looking at it yeah the suits are very like it looks like it could fit in that universe they did like like nightcrawler was a kid who had like a hologram thing to make his skin normal so he'd go to high school and spike who could shoot spikes out of his arms was great um magneto was terrifying um they had a captain america episode where captain america like like what's a flashback to like wolverine and captain america in the war um oh that sounds sweet it's very i really like that show uh it's

a notch below 90s i feel like i haven't even really heard much about it it's probably because captain america's just a problematic shit about people he's a guy from the 40s i don't know but you guys should watch it i was i had a lot of the action figures too um i had almost actually i had all the action figures from x-men evolutions you guys should give it a shot everyone listening if you're if you're fiending for x-men 97 stories i tweeted out some required reading for next season but then you should fill your time with x-men evolution because it is quite fun i'm retweeting that tweet out right now because i saw that the other night but it was like i started like it at like 11 at night. I'm like, I got to do this in the morning when people are awake. And all the listeners, make sure you watch Days of Future Past before next week in our journey to Deadpool and Wolverine.

When does that come out? Most of the good ones. July 26th. I finally saw the trailer for like the first real time because I went to see the Plan of the Apes movie and I was like, well, I guess we're watching this trailer right now. Man. You think it looked pretty sick? it looks like a wild time yeah it looks like a wild wild time like i think it's gonna be wild i can't wait to see the popcorn bucket apparently we're gonna see it very soon ryan said that at d23 or there's some con going on right now and everyone's promised this quote-unquote designed by deadpool himself which

means it's going to be like fuckable that was that was uh not to go off on a tangent that was the doctor strange portal at the end right yes wow so there's a lot of speculation our favorite theory at least my favorite theory is that it leads to the final battle in endgame and they just hop in and see it and be like never mind and hop back out that's great that would be pretty or maybe they're there and people are saying imagine you could put them there put them in the background and then re-release endgame six months from now where you just have them in a background cg shot for two seconds and you call it the Deadpool cut. And that's the whole joke. That's so funny.

It's good. Oh, I love that. Jose, thank you for coming back on for the finale, breaking everything down for us. I feel like you like imported prime Sentinel knowledge into our brain. And I want to say like, every time I'm on your show, my DMs get flooded with people being like, look at all these books I bought after listening to you, Robbie and Clem. Keep it up, man. I love it.

Keep them coming. I love all the books, the pictures of the books you guys send me. It means you're doing their job. This podcast is great, and it's very important, and I'm glad everyone's reading comic books. Get this guy to talk to Portnoy. Let him know how important he is. Yeah, I'll make a deal. I'll talk to Portnoy.

You talk to Dana White for me. There we go. Rob, you're on it. We can make that happen. Clem, do we have a hashtag for this week? Did you think of one? I mean, I don't know. I was like, remember when we were just Professor Young was taking us to school? That's basically what it is.

How about hashtag Bastion Bastard? You called him a cocksucker, which is so funny. I know. I'm calling Bastion a cocksucker. He's going to live rent-free in my head for years.

I'm going to see if that is not being used as a hashtag, at least, because sometimes some of my hashtags are years i'm gonna see if this is that has not been used as a hashtag at least because sometimes some of my hashtags are whoa that one went dark those hashtags yeah hashtag bastion bastard for this week and we will see you next week for days of future past