My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 353 - ‘X-MEN: DAYS OF FUTURE PAST’ (2014) REWATCH AND REVIEW WITH CLEM
Episode Date: May 24, 2024Robbie and Clem recap and review 'X-MEN: DAYS OF FUTURE PAST' on its ten-year anniversary! How does it hold up? Is Magneto's stadium scene at the end a Top 5 #XMen scene ever, or does the Quicksilver ...prison break sequence have it beat? Plus, some Madame Web discussion and Deadpool & Wolverine predictions! #DaysOfFuturePast #MarvelStudios **************************************** My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike! Subscribe on Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/MyMomsBasementWithRobbieFox Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement
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Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement and a very special X-Men Days of Future Past
10-year anniversary look-back edition of My Mom's Basement. With me is my co-host Clem,
as always. I didn't have a fancy X-Men intro for you this time. It's not the X-Men 97 finale like last week.
But Clem, I'm happy to have you here.
I'm happy to talk about Days of Future Past.
Yeah.
We got to dig into this one a little more like, I don't think the word's grounded.
But I mean, this movie starts off and you're just like, what the fuck's going on?
So it's kind of good to like not get into a crazy happy place because it does not start happy in this film.
Holy cow.
No.
And it hits the ground running.
Like I hadn't watched this in years.
I forgot to the level of like you're five minutes in there.
Like here's the plot.
Remember,
we're going to time travel.
Like they're real intense right up front.
But I did mention it's the 10 year anniversary this week.
We're recording this on May 24th.
It came out on May 23rd,
2014.
Complete coincidence that we're doing this on the 10-year anniversary week.
I know it's not Star Wars, but I'd like to think it's the Force.
Let's use time travel, Bob, and go back and record this on May 23rd.
Ready?
The audience won't know any different.
Anyone watching on YouTube is going to look exactly the same.
But all right, recording this on the 10-year anniversary of X-Men Days of Futures Past.
Unbelievable timing.
We did not plan this out,
but it's literally the 10 year anniversary. It's crazy. So it being the 10 year anniversary,
I was curious if this falls into the range of like new dad Clem, where were you seeing this
in theaters? Did you like see this when it came out? What was your experience with Days of Future Past? This I saw in the theaters and it,
this is probably like,
this might be the,
I don't think it's this one.
I think it maybe,
did Gone Girl come out in 2024?
Yes.
Gone Girl was the last.
2014, I'm sorry.
Yeah, Jesus.
There's the current dabber.
I still remember to this day,
Gone Girl is the last movie I saw in the movie theater
because then it's like-
That's a three minute.
Yeah, because I didn't like see a movie again
for like five years, it feels like, in the theaters.
So this is probably like the second or third
to last movie I saw.
So I definitely saw it in the theater.
Huge X-Men guy.
Went in with like super high expectations.
And I have to admit, when I saw it in the theater, I was a little disappointed.
And I liked it more on the rewatch.
Oh, wow.
I'm happy to hear you liked it more.
I had not the same experience, but kind of a similar experience.
I remember I saw this one with my friends and it was the first one I saw with my friends.
X-Men movies were always like a me and my brother thing.
I think he was working.
I had school. We didn't see this one together and i remember so many of my friends being like that
was the best x-men movie ever i can't believe they did that best comic book movie ever i'd put it
right there with the dark knight and i left the theater really enjoying the movie but having to
be like all right everyone let's calm down like that wasn't the dark knight and i hate being put in that position you know i want to be with everybody but everyone's talking
about like i was like even like i really liked it i don't know if i like it as much as first class
i don't know if i like it as much as x2 i think it's maybe below that um tier for me but i love
it i mean the fact that you unite the two timelines and you have the Professor X's meat in this movie and you have Logan time traveling and being in his 70s attire.
There's so many things about the movie that I absolutely love.
I do think they did a great job with it, especially considering the Days of Future Past comic storyline isn't completely adaptable in this universe like we can get into like the timeline stuff later but
if you wanted to have kitty pride as the main character as she is in the comic or in the x-men
97 and stuff like that or the original not 97 uh if you wanted to do that it wouldn't work with
the old timeline she would be negative 20 by the time the first class crew you know like so
the fact that they were able to rearrange things and put that puzzle back together and have it be cohesive and easy to understand
again like we complimented x-men 97 about some of these storylines aren't the easiest to understand
i think they did a great job yeah and i again 2014 obviously the internet was churning along
and you had like movie insider stuff so i'm sure we knew like how just crazy the cast was
having the old and the new and everyone loved i think days of future uh not days of future past
first class so it was like all right that cast crushed it obviously the original x-men cast
crushed it so putting them together i feel like i probably would have been super stoked like like
it's kind of what we're getting with like the deadpools and the spider-man movies where you're
getting these old and different casts and mashing them together multiverse style uh we's kind of what we're getting with like the deadpools and the spider-man movies where you're getting these old and different casts and mashing them together multiverse style
uh we're kind of getting that with just time travel here so i mean i i feel like i liked it
but my biggest issue and i think i've mentioned this in the past was i felt like they focused way
too much on mystique i was like i didn't realize mystique was gonna be that big of a character i
think they kind of like struck gold with jenn. They're like, well, we're just going to steer into Jennifer Lawrence being a superstar.
And we have her under contract.
When I rewatched, I was like, oh, it wasn't as crazy as I thought.
No, I had like in my notes, though, every time Mystique came up, it felt like in the comic, it would say like, meanwhile, everyone is doing something.
And then they would be like, by the way, Mystique is still,
you know, snooping around those files. And you're like, oh, okay.
Maybe that's it. Maybe I didn't like the transitions where they kind of just jammed
everything in and it's just like, oh, here she is again. That's probably what my,
obviously if you're writing the notes about it, it stays the same. The thing is when we're,
when we're rewatching, then writing the notes, I don't notice that stuff as much. And,
but it's,
it's kind of like when Andy Bernard became like a superstar with the
hangover and the office is like,
well,
I guess Andy's going to get some more seeds now because he's fucking
Steve Carell kind of a little bit in a similar way.
So all in all,
I'd say this definitely aged better than from the other.
And for me personally,
I mean,
we'll probably get into reviews at the end.
I think, I think I might have it as my number,
it's number two or three X-Men movie.
I know everyone goes X2, like one or two,
and then First Class right there as well.
It's either this is two behind First Class
or three for me.
Wow. All right.
So this is going to be a happy review.
We're not going to be shitting on this one.
Again, we're not going to be talking Apocalypse. We're not going to be talking X-Men Origins. We're going to be talking the good X- Logan? And like you said, maybe we just watch the YouTube for the catch-ups
and maybe actually watch Logan.
We're going to figure that out.
We have two months to decide.
We have a billion different things coming up in the nerd world in terms of content.
So I'm still trying to figure that out.
I feel like you're in the same boat, right?
Like, there is no way.
No way.
Oh, you're going to Dark Phoenix.
Dark Phoenix is not happening. Like, listen to our way. No way. Oh, you're going to Dark Phoenix. Dark Phoenix is not happening.
Like, listen to our X-Men 97 reviews.
That's what this podcast used to be about.
Just happy nerds just having fun, you know, getting crazy with it.
I don't like what we became during this phase of the interview.
I do not like it.
And I'm so – people are like, man, it's so nice.
Like, you guys just have so much more juice when you're reviewing good stuff.
It's like, yeah, it doesn't feel like a job when we're doing that, right?
No, it doesn't.
Let's get into the kind of layout of X-Men Days of Future Past.
Again, like all of the X-Men recaps we've been doing, a lot of this information,
almost all of it is from the First Class, or not the First Class, the Days of Future Past Wikipedia
and the IMDb trivia page for Days of Future Past.
Both great spots if you're looking to learn even more about the movie. Directed by Bryan Singer.
They also brought back Simon Kinberg. The story was by Kinberg, Jane Goldman, and our boy,
Matthew Vaughn, who was at one point attached to direct this movie, of course, after he directed
First Class, and it did super well, very successful. Like I said, it came out on May 23rd, 2014,
two hours and 12 minutes. There is a longer cut that makes it the longest X-Men movie ever,
like two hours, 32 minutes. It's called the Road Cut. We'll get into that in a little bit.
The budget was $200 million. You double it for marketing, $400 million. It made $262 million on opening weekend.
It's the biggest ever for an X-Men movie before Deadpool came out.
They consider those X-Men movies.
And the total gross was $746 million.
So this I found very interesting.
It made $746 million, almost a billion dollars, you know, three quarters of the way to a billion
on a $200 million budget.
But Deadline Hollywood calculated that the actual net profit of the movie was only $77 million.
Accounting for production budgets, P&A, talent participation, other costs.
Everything about that movie seems like, oh my God, it made the most money ever.
77 million for the studio.
Kind of crazy.
I expected at least a couple hundred million in net profit.
I wonder if that's why the other X-Men movies started sucking
because they had to change up whatever they were doing behind the scenes.
They were like, we can't keep casting these Oscar-winning actors as the X-Men.
I think it's tied for the the most Oscar nominated actors or Oscar winners
in a comic book movie.
It's like tied with the dark night.
It's crazy.
By the way,
the dark night thing is so perfect,
Bob,
because I know you are the guy who likes being like,
that was awesome,
but you're also not the guy who was like,
that was better than the dark night.
So there's two different sides here.
That's two face Bob right there.
This one was received super well by
critics and audiences 90 on rotten tomatoes for critics 91 for audience so it's pretty aligned
on this one yeah wow that's the thing too is like when you look at rotten tomatoes we've talked
about this before with the movie rankings versus rotten tomatoes thing that is the percentage of
people who liked it people aren't saying i rated it a nine out of 10, but when you look at it, like, yeah, I don't know what you wouldn't like
from this movie. Like the mystique stuff that you pointed out, like that is a weird, like
it feels a little separated from the rest of the movie, but the rest of it, it moves. It's got a
great cast. It's got plenty of great action sequences, good scenes, good set pieces.
I understand that. No, I, the reason it surprises me, so
on the dozen, sometimes they'll be like
Rotten Tomatoes score for a movie, right?
And when I, I'll immediately be
like what I thought of the movie, and then I'll think
how critics would rate it, right? And you're
going to always have like the douchebag critics
who are like, comic book movie? Didn't like it?
Didn't even probably see it, right? They probably spent
two hours watching some fucking fancy
art movie in the theaters.
And so that's why I'm always shocked when a movie that is good, objectively good, is given love by people who might be kind of dicks about it.
Speaking of dicks, Bryan Singer did return to direct this one, but he withdrew from all marketing and promo a month before the release
when he was hit with a lawsuit for sexual assault really horrific stuff in the lawsuit i think this
was kind of the first domino to fall for him in terms of i don't know if he was um publicly accused
of any of this horrific stuff before this um before production began brian singer actually
met with james cam Cameron to discuss this movie
and to discuss time travel and the string theory.
They said Terminator 2 was a huge inspiration
for this movie,
which I guess I could see with Logan
and the Terminator.
I mean, he does wake up naked.
I am looking at his Wikipedia right now,
Bryan Singer, that is.
And so like, you know,
2014, the allegations come out, I guess, right before the movie
premieres, and you're like, well,
fuck, like, that's crazy, take him off the thing.
The only problem with that is, is then he
came back, he was involved with,
he did X-Men Apocalypse
in 2016, and then Dark Phoenix
in 2019, which, oh yeah,
there was a 2017 lawsuit
where he was allegedly
raped a 17-year-old.
Like, what the fuck?
And then after all that, he got to
fucking direct the Queen movie.
He did Bohemian Rhapsody.
Yeah, he did Bohemian Rhapsody.
And he had tons of issues on that set, too.
Rami Malek hated his guts on that set.
Oh my god.
Bad guy.
We hate him.
Any compliments we give to this movie it goes to the cast and the crew and not brian singer the any good part of
this movie is because matthew vaughn that's how that's how yes so let's get into matthew vaughn
his original involvement in this he was originally slated to direct it um but he wanted to do a movie in
between first class and this he wanted this to be the kind of like finale of his trilogy he wanted
to do an x-men trilogy where he wanted first class to be his like 60s movie he wanted to do a 70s
movie with that same cast and also bring in a young wolverine i don't know how that would have
worked if they would have done multiversal stuff,
because obviously we see Hugh Jackman Wolverine in first class,
but he wanted Tom Hardy to play a young Logan.
Immediately I read that, I'm like, oh my God,
Matthew Paul was fucking cooking with that script, wasn't he?
And yeah, he was like, I think we should unite the cast in the finale of the trilogy.
That should be the big culmination of everything.
And he wrote both scripts. And apparently when he handed in the scripts they were like this day's a future past
script is too good we're doing it right now and that pissed him off a little bit he went and did
kingsman he also went and produced the fantastic four movie in 2015 that is really just panned
across the board and he has since said he would be open to directing a reboot of the fantastic four
as an apology for that movie i like that uh i didn't know this whole thing about the three
movies it's like god damn it like the idiots we could add the vaughn trilogy but at the
vaughn it's like he crushed the first one and obviously he wrote this one and anything good
in this movie is because of him and And that fucking 70s movie sounds awesome.
Yeah.
God damn it.
They pulled some things from it too.
The JFK stuff in this movie where they, you know, we'll get into it with Magneto and stuff.
The 70s movie was supposed to open with showing that, which would have been interesting.
Also, I read that and I was like, I don't know if you could open with a superhero causing jfk assassination scene after watchman did that and they did it so well oh yeah
okay i thought you're gonna say like how watchman opens as the comedian shoots jfk to the times are
changing by bob dylan it's so good yeah that's that's actually i thought you're gonna say you
just can't like uh do that in general with uh like showing jfk getting his head blown off in 4k darren rovelle did that
tuesday at 8 a.m i was gonna say darren rovelle he has kicked that door open for all of us
oh man i sometimes i think about darren bro i'm like i just like that guy it was just just like
utter content just watching him operate the whole martin luther king day stuff i mean just
everything about him just the weirdest story to do j stuff. I mean, just everything about him. Just the weirdest,
strangest. Jake, our sweet Jake
Bass. Not Jake Bass.
Jeff Lowe. No, no, no.
Jake Marsh.
He got the job to basically be our
Darren Rivell. It's like it's the battle.
So, yeah, the JFK
stuff I love. Again, anything history
where you're getting some history sprinkled in.
And there's a bunch of it in this movie.
There's a lot. The Vietnam stuff too, like
the mentions of Vietnam. Vaughn's
second movie was going to focus on Vietnam
and like civil rights and stuff like
that with the mutants. Would have been a perfect
backdrop for him. You could still do that one day.
I don't know if you could do it with this cast, but a
70s X-Men movie sounds sweet.
I mean, let's be honest. It sounds
like it would have been the perfect movie. I'm going to right now that movie would have been in the dark knight it would
have it would have lined up perfectly too because it would have been the second movie right yeah
it really it really and then it does when it's the trilogy and it's like it's not stand like
this is obviously the second one but when you do hammer
home and that's the end of it where the characters the old and the new meet and there's an extra
movie to go with the old characters so they are a little more you know ingraining your soul man
fuck fox they really fucked this up i'm really upset right now i'm happy i didn't read this
when i was doing my research they fucked it up a little the score is by john ottman he returned
from x2 he also brings back the
X-Men theme from X2. It's the first time they
bring back a theme. First time they bring back
a composer. He also edited
the movie, which I found super interesting.
To take on two massive,
massive workloads of
composing the score and editing the entire
movie. Kind of fascinating.
Shout out John Ottman.
He worked for Barstool? He was like a big part of this movie.
That's fucking
craziness.
I hate that, man. I hate people
with that kind of shit in their bag that can do
both, let alone do both well.
I can't do either of those things.
I don't even know where to start.
He was the Thanos meme. He was Age of Ultron
Thanos where he's like, I'll do it myself.
Yeah, fucking do it myself. It is fuck it, I'll do it myself.
It is the first X-Men movie to be nominated for an Oscar, an Academy Award.
It was nominated for Best Visual Effects.
It unfortunately lost to Interstellar, understandably so.
It has 1,311 visual effects shots in the movie, produced by 12 different studios.
And shout out to Richard Stammers, the VFX supervisor on the movie produced by 12 different studios and shout out to Richard Stammers,
the VFX supervisor on the movie.
It was also shot in Montreal,
Canada under the working title.
Hello kitty.
That made me giggle.
I was like,
Oh,
kitty pride thing.
Hello.
Kitty's the working title.
Of course it's based on days of future past the comic storyline.
It's uncanny X-Men one 41 and one 42.
As we mentioned,
they couldn't focus on kitty pride as
much because of the timelines um bishop and cable were both really heavily considered as like the
time traveler um but then they decided on logan they were like he's ageless timeless whatever
he's perfect rachel summers was also in the original script so they were it sounds like
the original script someone had to like reign it in because i
bet they were starting to get a little confusing with their x-men timeline time travel shit and
then someone grabbed it and they were like cut that cut that cut that i think this will be easier
to understand there was a time when wolverine goes from the past back to the present and i start like
losing it i'm like wait i was all good everything was good in my brain and now it's fucked up again
so i can only imagine what's like writing those words I was all good. Everything was good in my brain, and now it's fucked up again. So I can only imagine what it's like writing those words
down and not having it on a screen in
front of you. So that makes sense. You mentioned
the comic books. I'm
gonna, I have to find my comics. I have a couple of
my boxes of comics. I have to see which,
I think I have the first reprint of the first
X-Men. I have to get,
right here, I'm pretty sure I have the X-Men
number one, the Stanley, the,
or not, the Jim Lee one I have as well.
I have the Fatal Attraction that was obviously
just happened in X-Men 97.
And I have to buy the Days of Futures past one, even if
it's just a reprint. Like, Jose says it'll be behind
the glass if I go to a store. I could live
with a $5 reprint. That's fine.
That's one thing, actually, that's
one nitpick I had in this. I wish
we had that poster
from the cover somewhere where it's like deceased or like the fact that they did an X-Men 97.
Like you do a fucking movie about it.
Can't you just throw it in the background of something there?
I don't know.
I bet.
I guarantee if Matthew Vaughn was the director of this movie, he would have had that fucking poster somewhere.
It's iconic.
Iconic for us.
So they tried to recreate those a little bit,
like a nod to it with the actual official posters for the movie.
So what they did was they would put the original actor with an X and then the,
you know, younger actor inside.
And there were a couple of good ones,
but with them being the X-Men as it is,
it's almost hard to tell that it's supposed to be the Days of Future Past,
you know, cover.
They did it a lot better, I feel like, in X-Men 97, in the
finale, where they had all of the
mutants on the board. Who was it? Was it Bishop
looking at them?
I think so, yeah. I think it was Bishop
and someone else. That was better, but I agree.
It could have been cool. Even in that post-apocalyptic
world in the beginning, if you had
the wanted posters and everything with the X,
that would have been cool. That's a fucking and again this so this whole thing with the matthew
vaughn stuff this is gonna be like the overarching thing in my brain for the rest of the day if not
old moral day weekend this gives me more like hope about deadpool 3 being that fucking good
because again this guy knows what good stuff is and if you can't hire matthew vaughn to do shit in the
mcu hire more matthew vaughn's in this world yeah kevin feige to do your future projects instead of
whoever the fuck you hired the last couple years because this it's incredible i love this shit man
yeah hire more eric martins as well hire more michael waldron's as well yes the those guys
their brains work in different ways where i
feel like they see the multiverse all spread out they can connect it in their head like queen's
gambit like they see it on the ceiling and they're like oh there it is i know how to give this to an
audience and hire a robbie fox in a club just to be extra somewhere just two idiots in the back
so the rogue cut which i mentioned it features 17 minutes of additional footage and a Rogue subplot.
We see Rogue for maybe two seconds at the end of the movie with Bobby when Logan wakes up.
She was more of a part of this movie.
She is one of the top billed cast members as well, Anna Paquin.
I've seen the Rogue Cut.
I honestly don't know if I could say that it's like more worth watching
than the actual movie it features a plot where they have to like break rogue out of is it the
x mansion they have to break her out of prison she's stuck in cerebro yeah she's stuck in cerebro
they got to break her out um it bobby like dies during this. He sacrifices himself.
They do get her out.
I think Rogue has legitimately four lines in the Rogue gut.
So it's not like she becomes like a focal point.
Just the idea of getting her back to prison break kind of becomes a focal point, which is a little redundant when you have the Pentagon prison break.
Like maybe they wanted them to go side by side and that would be poetry it rhymes blah blah i don't know if it's i don't know if it's uh like
necessarily worth it also like storm and wolverine have a little bit of a romance plot oh and that
there is that one timeline where they are like lovers right so that i can understand that i never
even knew the roll cut existed until i was oh. So, oh, shit, that was a thing.
So, again, that was probably once all the roll cut talk was going on, I was changing diapers, not sleeping.
I was working my ass off.
And then any minute I wasn't taking care of a new human or working, I was trying to get hired at Barstool.
So, yeah, there was a lot of stuff going on in my life at that point.
So yeah, 2014 and on is a blur at this point.
I do like Rogue as a character.
Also her like being there, it just like,
I think it complicated things a little too much to have her there.
And credit to Anna Paquin, she was completely fine getting cut.
She got interviewed about it.
She was like, yeah, I got to be on set with all my friends,
got to reunite with everyone.
It is what it is.
Like that's Hollywood. And I think rogue in the movies isn't like rogue in
the cartoon right where she is such like a huge fucking massive figure and she has all the goddamn
lines let's be honest like her powers her strength and all that other shit could help against his
handles she can't suck up there she can't kill them by touching them they're robots so
a big trump card that Rogue has on people.
And since we are on the road to Deadpool and Wolverine,
and there's a lot of Taylor Swift dazzler rumors,
I thought it was worth bringing up that they actually announced Lady Gaga
as the dazzler in this movie as an April Fool's Day joke in 2014,
or maybe 2013 while they were on set.
Kind of interesting that we're repeating
this 10 years later with whoever the biggest pop star in the world is. Maybe they'll play
Dazzler Rumors. Stan Lee was also offered a cameo in this one, but allegedly turned it down so he
could attend a fan expo in Toronto. I'd like to think my headcanon is that he was like,
fuck you, Bryan Singer. I ain't showing up. Yeah, we're going to roll with that one. I'd like to think my head canon is that he was like, fuck you, Bryan Singer. I ain't showing up. Yeah, we're gonna
roll with that one. I choose to believe that as well.
I just don't want to think of anybody
being just turning down a cameo in an X-Men
movie. We're also, Bryan Singer
coming with an April Fool's joke for Lady Gaga
and Dazzler. Just such a
Bryan Singer thing to do.
Suck. Suck.
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Shout out Faith. I just heard of Faith.
Wow.
Faith is chilling. She's happy to have me home.
It's Friday, Memorial Day weekend. I told her
I'm home for the whole weekend before I have to
leave her for Chicago next week. This is her first cameo, I feel, at least with me. That's my first Memorial Day weekend. I told her I'm home for the whole weekend before I have to leave her for Chicago next week.
This is her first cameo, I feel, at least with me.
That's my first time. Come here, Faith.
Say hi to the folks. It's
Memorial Day weekend. It's Faith weekend.
She's getting big.
Oh, my God. Yeah, she is.
Say hi, Faith.
She's sniffing the mic. Oh, what a cute girl.
What a cute girl she looks like.
I think we have our thumbnail for the week, Bob.
Here, lift up a little bit so we can get a thumbnail.
All right, if you're not watching on YouTube, you've got to go on YouTube.
I know all dog owners say this, but my dog really is so damn cute.
There it is.
There's our thumbnail for this week.
There we go.
All right.
Let that Bob go. That was the first time I've had my kids interrupt the show. it is there's our thumbnail for this week there we go all right let that pop the rifle
that was the first time i've had my kids interrupt the show there you go yeah my kids are upstairs
and i've been holding my breath that they don't come on the whole time turns out it's tomorrow
day weekend bring your kids to work day i love it all right let's get into this movie the 20th
century fox logo with the little x-Men jingle on it to kick things off.
Nice little touch.
I love when movies will change that up a little bit.
I love when Into the Spider-Verse they do the Columbia logo,
and then it glitches for a second and stuff like that.
That's good.
They did a really good job kicking the movie off with the dark, desolate future
that we've seen in X-Men comics and X-Men cartoons so much.
Like they made it truly look like scenes out of a comic book when there's all the mutants like walking in that line.
People said you could see a old version of Quicksilver in that line.
I didn't catch them, but little cameos here and there.
And I love that X-Men versus Sentinel scene to kick things off,
where you get like a lot of the B-list X-Men get to shine here
and show off their powers and ways that we haven't seen them before.
They get to shine until, of course, they don't
because they're B-list characters with no plot armor,
so the Sentinels are able to take them all down.
I believe the Sentinels, the future Sentinels, are a bit controversial
because their design looks a little different from the original Sentinels.
And they obviously have that mystique like ability where they could like change and stuff.
Do you like these Sentinels?
I like I think they're terrifying when the fucking face opens up and shit.
They look like aliens more than anything.
Yeah, I think when I first saw it, I was like, oh, man, because I do love those old big purple lugs.
Right. Yeah.
But it makes sense that as time would go on, they'd adapt and get sleeker and, you know, more powerful and just better, right?
And upgrade.
And that's exactly what this one does.
So, like, these things are a fucking problem by the time we get to the end of the world.
Actually, 2023 Sentinels as well.
That's what year the future is supposed to take.
But it's like kind of like Back to the Future now where you're like, Oh, we're past the future.
When I saw that year.
And I guess it does check out considering this movie was filmed 10 years
ago.
So I think all these characters have to be alive from the original movies,
obviously.
And I'm like,
fuck past days of future past at this point.
And I thought the same thing,
Bob back to the future too,
was like the first moment I was like,
man,
I'm old.
2015 or 2016, 2015, 2015, 55, 85, Bob, Back to the Future 2 was the first moment I was like, man, I'm old. Is that 2015 or 2016?
Yeah, it's 2015.
55, 85, 15 are the
three checkouts in the original
too. My favorite part of this
was, I think, it opens up with
we go right through the Empire State Building.
It has a big old hole in it.
It has no fucking heart. It's a front-running
skyscraper.
Shit!
I can't believe that they tried to take Hayden Christensen from us
and do an Empire Strikes Back day.
That was fucked.
You know that fucking, there's probably old tweets of the Empire State Building
saying he fucking, you know, Jedi was better or some shit.
It's just thrown on the building.
Knicks fans will be like, oh, it's an orange and blue.
That fucker was wearing Nets colors a couple years ago, you clowns.
Get that shit out of my face.
Get it out of our face.
In the comics, for those that don't know, the Sentinels wiped out
more than just the mutants.
They wiped out Spider-Man, Ghost Rider,
Daredevil, Iron Man, Hulk,
the Fantastic Four. Sentinels are
a fucking issue. Absolute issue
in the comics. Problem.
They are a problem.
I hate to say it i kind of
love that there is like that the sentinels do have that body count in a multiverse oh yeah
that's a problem don't let them get out of control that's like a big like the stakes of this are like
the sentinels can get to the point where we're fucked like everyone's fucked not just the mutants
not just the x-men not our. All the superheroes in the world.
And meanwhile, in real life, we have AI getting accused by Scarlett Johansson of taking her voice.
They're coming for Black Widow in real life.
It's fucking hell.
Shout out Scar Jo.
That was a good statement she put out when they tried to take her voice.
She was not having it.
I liked that.
Kitty Pryde and Bishop travel to the future where Professor X, Magneto, Storm, Logan, they're all in China. Ian McKellen and Patrick
Stewart were actually together in a touring production of a show called Waiting for Godot.
Godot, I don't know. When they got approached to reprise their roles, they said they were
genuinely shocked. They thought like we passed these roles on to Michael Fassbender and James
McAvoy and everyone loved them. So they thought like when everyone loved them, yeah, we're probably
not getting the call again. But they were thrilled to come back as was Halle Berry but Halle Berry's role was
substantially reduced because she was pregnant at the time of filming so her pregnancy she couldn't
be on set as much but they still got a good amount out of her like that scene at the end especially
where she's fucking using the storm and then she gets stabbed oh my god that's like watching storm
get stabbed i didn't
know how much it would hurt my heart until it happened i forgot that happens in the movies
when i saw it again i was like what the fuck i feel like she was my teacher like i felt like i
was one of her students and i was like no miss storm i was yeah miss storm i was wondering why
i was like i feel like there's not a lot of storm in this i didn't know because holly berry had
reached a point where she just had to show up a few times that makes a lot more sense
and it just really has to be said i mean one last time here since unless maybe they make an
appearance in temple three just how good the original professor exit magneto where the actors
just crushed them the felon and uh stewart so oh just such a good fight like they play that role
so good where it's like they're both have are very
much on different sides but they could be buddies but i mean especially magneto's just oh it's just
incredible and i love the dynamic between even the young magneto professor x in this movie the
scene on the plane which we'll get to yes so fucking good so so so good they really it's like
a miracle that they cast them as well as they did. Because it was like with Patrick Stewart and Ian McCallum,
it's like you're never going to get better than them.
And in fairness, you never are going to get better than them.
But, oh, my God, Fassbender and McAvoy got really close,
really, really close to that level.
You know that wherever that whiteboard is right now,
they play on the next X movie.
It's like those are the two big names that they wrote down for a movie.
We got to hit this.
We got to hit this. Even in X-Men 97 movie it's like those are the two big names that they wrote down for everyone we gotta hit this we gotta hit this because even in x-men 97 it's like nope we're gonna have all the other guys in there but it boils down to professor exxon magneto doing
action right and that's kind of how the the story they're destined to do it forever yeah i there was
a part part of me that as i'm watching this and we're in that like chinese whatever it is i'm like is this camera couch i was like
yeah it kind of looked like that is it supposed to be that because it is that now but that was
before the mcu and so i my whole brain i have no idea um also just stepping on ice man's frozen head
metal there's a lot of metal moments in this movie, not just the Magneto stuff.
But they do get right into it with the time travel talk, the Trask backstory, Mystique killing him, how we got here with the future, the Mystique blood being used to help the Sentinels.
Professor X wants to go back in time and stop this.
But Kitty Pryde tells him, like, you wouldn't be able to survive me sending you back in time with the, you know, I'm going to send it's gonna go in your body it'll be the same but then what you do affects our future they don't quite do the avengers thing where they're like forget everything you know it's
our timeline like they do use like movie time travel laws but this scene has a little bit of
a feel of like sweep it under the rug don't think about it too much just let's get
into the time travel stuff and logan of course volunteers because he's not going to be killed by
this and charles and eric say you got to find us xavier warns that he didn't have his powers in
1973 which is like what do you mean you don't have your powers in 1973 magneto warns that his location
is complicated so you're like oh god what are we getting into with this?
The whole stuff with the send in the mind into blah,
blah,
blah,
not really important.
The ending does get a little confusing though.
We'll get into that with the ending.
I don't want to skip ahead too much.
The script also had Logan waking up in the seventies and his boxers,
just wearing boxers,
nothing but boxers.
And Hugh Jackman said in Australia,
if you're next to a
really good looking girl you're not getting out with boxer shorts on or briefs or anything so he
said I think I should be naked in that scene and he got his wish uh the woman does call him Jimmy
in that scene too that's a nod to his birth name James Howlett um that was his birth name the
comics and everything and he takes on his father's name um thomas logan i i uh what's his name um
hugh jackman is like i work too damn hard on his body just to be thrown today god bless you for
that wolverine i just maybe threw on boxers and he looks silly in him you know like some people
just look silly in boxing he's like i can't do this. I also love Professor X being like, listen, I was a different person back then.
I'm like, that's a dude.
I'm telling you, I'm staying on this island.
And the island, I'm telling you, it's appreciated a little in value.
The stock has gone up a little after this one.
That's a guy who knows he has some skeletons in the closet.
And it's more than just being an addict or whatever you want to call it.
Yeah.
With the long hair, there was some rock star
vibes and rock stars in the 70s
don't have the best reputation, I would say.
I'm telling you.
Professor X, he's lucky there wasn't like social
media around back then because the shit he was probably
posting, problematic.
Our beloved Xavier.
Although there wasn't social media around,
later we got into cameras start being around
in France. Is that in France, right?
When people start filming Mystique jumping out the window and shit?
Yeah, in Paris.
Yep.
Logan's a smartass with these thugs, these goons that walk into the room right away.
They're like, you're supposed to be guarding the boss's daughter, not sleeping with her.
He's like, oh, yeah, I slept with her.
I didn't sleep with her tonight.
I slept with her.
You know, he's typical Logan.
Didn't do much sleeping, if you know what i mean like bubbing it up the second these guys walk into the room they just
open fire on him he's not healing as quick as he can because boom he's got the bone claws remember
this is pre-striker logan so he puts the bone claws out and i think it hurts a little more than
usual i love the bone claws like i don't want bone claws 24 7 but when
you give us like we've had a couple movies of the adamantium claws you give us a movie with the
fucking bone claws ironically it's metal very metal extremely i'm hoping we get the bone claws
in x-men 97 season 2 or is it x-men 98 i don't know how that's all working yeah yeah we we
probably will are you sure unless that's magneto's gonna have to do surgery
where he puts all the metal back in it's gonna be hard to do so those and shout out to the casting
director you couldn't get three better goons for a movie yeah those guys are born to play goons in
a movie it was unreal uh then we get the trash scene, the first scene with Trask, Peter Dinklage as Trask.
Shout out, New Jersey guy, Jersey's own.
He tries to use Vietnam to scare the government into greenlighting the Sentinel program.
They tell him it ain't going to fly.
Dinklage perfectly cast for this movie.
And he said he was cast because he wanted or maybe Singer wanted or the writers wanted Trask to have an insecurity about his dwarfism, where he is almost like he feels different along with the mutants, but takes it out on the mutants because of that.
I thought that was a really like unique casting.
And obviously, this is height of Game of Thrones being on top of the world.
So it makes sense that he was getting a huge comic book movie here.
I thought it was awesome.
The first time we seen it.
Like, oh, yeah, that works out perfect.
He's awesome in everything, isn't he?
Like, I don't know if I've ever seen Peter Dinklage where I was like, oh, he was like, okay.
Every time I see him in anything, I'm like, he was awesome.
He was awesome.
Yeah, he's good at what he does.
There's no other way around it.
Personally, I think shouting out Bolivar Task being from New Jersey is fucked up. But hey, whatever you say, Bob, if you're a very big fan of segregation and killing people because they're different, that's fine with the Jersey folks.
Us in New York, we do not like or claim Bolivar Trask as part of the tri-state era.
We do not claim it.
We do not like it.
Fair enough.
That's a fair rebuking. There's the big mystique action sequence in the military tent.
Features like a young recasted toad.
And he's all scaly.
He looks weird.
He's got the goggles on.
A couple other C-list mutants.
I hope I'm not offending any fans of those mutants by saying that they're C-list.
You get Striker, played by Josh Hellman, a young striker. He was actually originally cast in Matthew Vaughn's version of the movie to play Juggernaut.
And in Matthew Vaughn's version, Juggernaut is the one who breaks Magneto out of prison, not Quicksilver.
When they rewrote things, I guess they still liked Josh Hellman.
They wanted him involved in the movie.
They cast him as Stryker.
I think it was a good move.
He looks like he could be a young Stryker.
The interesting thing about this, the most interesting thing about this scene i think
is that it was actually the post-credit scene of the amazing spider-man 2 with andrew garfield
they gave a little tease for days of future past yeah yep that was that was very which is weird to
think about now like it's weird to think obviously because marvel owns the x-men but it's weird to think, obviously because Marvel owns the X-Men, but it's weird to think that Sony could put a tease for an X-Men movie at the end of Kraven the Hunter.
What?
And I know Kraven's not fucking Spider-Man.
More people are seeing Spider-Man.
It's just strange to look through a 2024 lens at that.
Definitely.
The guy who plays Stryker, is he the guy that you got confused with, the guy who plays Stifler?
Am I remembering that correctly, or were you trying to figure out yeah i feel like i i to be honest yeah i remember you saying william scott stiffler right yes yes might have been him and i remember
you got the two guys confused and i'm like what is he talking about and then i saw this guy and i
go wait is that stiffler and my brain is like wait robbie i kind of see where robbie's coming from
now because i i don't
remember like you know the actor from that so then i saw it i was like so i'll be to go back in time
and robbie even though i didn't say anything i thought you're crazy i now understand why
i love this scene where logan goes to the school and it's decrepit and the sign is falling and
everything he's greeted by hank mccoy at the door and he's
like trying to figure out who he is almost and he's like oh my god you're beast he's like get
out of here because obviously nicholas nicholas halt looks a little nerdy and skinny still and
stuff barges his way in great first interaction between them which leads to us meeting the
degenerate rock star version of charles Xavier. He's just walking around freely.
Another scene where I remember watching it for the first time being like,
he's walking around.
Oh my God.
Why is he walking around?
How is he walking around?
We find out that Vietnam was a real breaking point for him.
A lot of mutants were drafted.
A lot of mutants were killed.
And he's basically a drug addict.
Now it's kind of like a heroin addict.
It's,
I think it's just a straight up allegory for heroin.
He's overusing Hank serum to cure his mutant abilities,
quote unquote,
cure his mutant abilities.
And he says,
Magneto's in the prison below the Pentagon for JFK.
They go through all of this and he's kind of reluctant to help Logan until
he asks,
what makes you think that like Eric will change?
You can never change this guy.
Like you're crazy.
And Logan has
this great cold line racing because the two of you sent me here together and that's like the
ending of the scene I love that whole sequence I love throwing it at the big brain guys stupid
brains uh yeah you know Lawyered yeah by old cigar chomping Logan right there of all people
that was another nice thing is Logan as soon as he gets off the ship in the beginning, lights up a cigar.
And I was like, oh, that's nice.
It's like almost like a video game introduction scene where they give him like a signature, like a quick animation to do.
I was like, that's nice.
They give him a cigar right away.
And I also appreciate he's reached the point where he wouldn't smoke on the flight with everyone.
Where, you know, young uncouth Logan would have definitely been like fuck you guys have you ever been in a
car and you're probably a little young for this where i'm sure at this point people like we're
not doing as much but have you ever been a car people just smoke butts in the car
brother my dad used the floor of the passenger side as an ashtray
oh it was outrageous out the car smelled like an ashtray oh my god it was outrageous out the car smelled like an
ashtray it was insane with his kids in the car wow that is with the kids in the car well i guess
just the kid because i'm so much younger than my siblings yeah and like even had moments where like
we would get in the car he'd be like yeah i put smoke in a while ago we'd be like no you didn't
we know you didn't you're smoking a cigarette right now yeah you got one in your
ear dude like it's a pencil yeah i was gonna say like i thought you're gonna take me back
some rock and i'm like i am talking to a rock star right here so maybe he's a rock star no papa fox
is a goddamn savage with the sticks yeah yeah i i appreciate logan for not doing that
and you know like you know hank mccoyoy had to go and actually create the no smoking light that they have on airplanes just for Logan.
That Blackbird had been around for like 30 years.
No one ever even thought of smoking on this fucking thing until you, Logan.
Now I have to put it up there and put it in.
And he's like, you know, we're okay with it, Logan.
But some of the younger students are just they've complained
about it they've brought up the statistics i just think it would be a you set a good example you
know he has to have that like t-shirt teacher talk with him yeah yeah all but like and no and logan
never listened never listened and then one time gene just like just like coughed he's like never
yeah i'm gonna get on the place that's my girl i still have a chance with her if i stop smoking on this plane
yeah and then like views himself as like a noble guy after that too yeah and don't forget what it
did for all of you um mystique meanwhile mystique discovers a bunch of dead mutant files in the
trash office and that's pretty much the extent of the scene she almost gets caught and it's nice
like oh almost get caught but you just pop in see mystique she's discovering the dead mutants they're you know testing on or
whatever uh but my favorite sequence in this movie is the next say 15 to 20 minutes of it it's the
prison break the magneto prison break starting with logan hank and charles rolling up on peter's
house aka quicksilver and they're all wearing amazing seventies outfits.
They all look like rock stars when they open the door,
they're all wearing the shades and everything.
I love that shot.
And he's playing ping pong with himself.
A great Quicksilver thing reminded me of like a Mr.
Perfect actually thrown a football.
Oh,
such a good one.
And clearly he steals all the time.
He's got shit all over from ding-dongs to TVs to speakers and galore.
His basement is just like a kid's dream, basically.
And he's thrilled at the prospect of breaking into the Pentagon.
He's viewing this as like when they say, like, you'll get to break into the highest secured prison in the world.
He's kind of like, oh, shit, i'd like to put that notch in my belt and the prison break sequence is in my opinion a master class in how to introduce a
character to a franchise like an already likable franchise with iconic characters they did so much
in this sequence with quicksilver being a likable character and evan peters did a really good job
of being that guy i feel like they set pietro up
for failure in age of ultron which came out like later this year maybe a year after this he was so
good and like even with the sequence where he's running and you know poking things or punching
someone and you're waiting for it all to unfold it's so fucking well done and well shot even the magneto reveal when you've seen
michael fastbender for the first time in this movie it feels like a big moment you're like oh
shit magneto even though you've seen the older version of him even though you've only seen
magneto in first class um the line where he's in the elevator with magneto and he talks about his
metal powers and he's like my mom knew a guy like that yeah like that's such a fucking good like nudge
nudge wink wink you know what we're saying here um and a lot of his sequences were actually shot
with like practical visual effects they shot a lot of his running around sequences at 3600 frames
per second and then were able to speed them up slow slow them down, however they were able to do that.
Obviously, the stuff floating in the air was CGI,
but I love everything about this.
This is what makes the movie so fantastic for me.
It's also, when I look back at the movie,
it's kind of the first thing that comes to mind. The music, the use of music.
I think it's the same year as Guardians came out.
That was like a weird, almost a sister movie thing,
where he's got his Walkman and his headphones that he likes to listen to um do you like this as much as i do
uh my my one note is uh this the slow-mo scene rules so hard all these years later and it's one
of those things that i think of when i think of him in this movie but i don't really remember any
of it you know i just remember the water and then like how he saves them and then just like all the
way he has them punching themselves and just the little,
he's just touching it just a bit.
He's just showing off.
I just love how he shows off and you appreciate when the mutants can show
off with their powers a little bit.
So yeah,
this held up incredibly.
I will say there is a part of this though,
that has been ruined.
Cause when I see that face now,
I think Ralph Boner,
I don't think Quicksver and listen i it's
so tricky because i do appreciate like the fan servicey stuff but like and like wandavision
was in a place where we were just starved for anything and the fucking pandemic was
roaring or whatever but man they really just fucked us with that boner yeah
like i said they made him so likable in this like yeah for the
wandavision fans that weren't x-men fans maybe they view him as oh he's just a variant cool he's
played by a famous actor evan peters this quicksilver was so well done they nailed him
that this was the comic version we wanted and i gotta say they even did a pretty good job with
him in apocalypse apocalypse is not a great movie they basically just run this scene back and they have a slow-mo scene with quick
silver shot with the fucking you know mounted cam on his chest and all that and it's great again
it's great like i watched it again and i was like all right yeah you could just run that back in
every movie he's in they should have done it in wall division yeah they should have i actually
to be honest i forgot how much I like him I remember
it's like kind of a little bit of a punk in this movie or whatever but I forgot like he is likable
and I forgot how good his like scene is and now if I re-watch WandaVision I might like the character
more but it I think then it's just gonna piss me off more that it's not actually Quicksilver so
it's very tricky in that regard also the the reveal about how Magneto's there.
You're like, oh, Magneto's there just because he's Magneto.
He's a bad guy.
No, no.
The JFK assassination reveal, it's like, oh, fuck, the bullet did curve.
You killed JFK.
And then the double twist of, wait, he killed JFK because the bullet curved?
It's like, oh, my God.
And then when he hits you with the twist of, I was trying to save him because he was one of us.
You're like,
JFK was a mutant.
Yeah.
Again,
history nerd who loves when they then take those historical figures,
put them into the comic books that had been melting.
And I read his power.
What do you think his power was?
I read what they said it was.
They said in like the unpublished,
like the backstory,
unpublished backstory,
he is like charming, basically.
Which would be very JFK, right?
That makes sense, yeah.
A little bit of Xavier. Maybe he's not telekinetic,
but he's got that...
One and the same. Let's just say that.
Without Pete Slater and Professor X's name anymore,
if there was a young lady at the bar
and those two were there, they're pulling out
their fucking big guns.
And they're not pulling out. Am right definitely not yo i i guarantee you professor x opened the school
because he's like i probably have like a shitload of mutant babies running around i have to take
care of them one way or another but i won't like in this movie too right aren't they like are you
someone's dad and he's like i sure hope yeah but when they
when they break out professor x or professor x magneto and they have like the helmet obviously
they have the angel um thing they have havocs like little things and then they have the coin
they got the the sebastian shaw coin fucking metal also there's a scene in the midst of the
prison break sequence that maybe it's
just my brain.
I swear was inspired by a new hope.
The scene where Charles and Eric are like talking to the cops and trying to
like play it cool before Logan's eventually like,
fuck it.
And then like,
you know,
throw shit at him.
It feels so like,
everything's fine over here.
How are you?
How are you?
You know?
And then eventually he fucking shoots it. Like that feels so star Wars, fine over here uh how are you are you you know and then eventually he
fucking shoots it like that feels so star wars a new hope to me and i love that about it obviously
um then you get the plane scene right after this this is such a good stretch of the movie the
middle of the movie is so strong where magneto and professor x are going at it like an old
fucking married couple and magneto is bringing the plane down as they're fighting
the hank is just like trying to fly it he has got no control everyone else is looking at each other
like are we about to die like he's gonna level it out eventually right and they remind me in this
scene of robert downey jr and chris evans in the way that they're able to snap right back into
having legitimate viewpoints on both sides that you understand and having
complete conviction in their voices when they're acting and the like the chemistry between them is
perfect like they were made to be on screen together in the same way i think chris evans
and robert downey jr were and again they both make actually compelling points they both seem
to believe their points so points to the writers for making that a very balanced scene i love when robbie says that you know their viewpoints where
it's like yeah he knew who killed iron man's mom and dad that's robbie just saying that well we
won't undermine control i'm not gonna go into this now robbie it's kind of like i'm not going to go into this now, Robbie. It's kind of like, I'm not going to be the Professor X to your Magneto here,
just like Cap is Magneto in my mind
to my Professor X in Iron Man.
Besides that,
their plane scene does hammer home
how fucked up their relationship is.
And it's kind of funny when you look at it in these movies,
you look at the original X-Men,
and then even like the cartoon, which just wrapped,
and it's like, it's truly like oil and water, water but they go together so it's also like chocolate and peanut butter
when things are going right it's fucking so weird it's it's awesome it's just so well written
meanwhile mystique she goes and meets this dude that's connected to trask and all that and she
does the typical mystique thing of you know bringing him up to the hotel room and kind of you know romancing him a little bit to the point where at the last moment she
changes when she changes the mystique this guy looks at her so disrespectfully he looks at her
like the biggest freak he's ever seen in his life like this is a world where mutants exist like
maybe you haven't seen one like her before but I was happy she killed her when he
looked at her like that I'll be honest oh yeah uh this was the was it the Vietnamese General or
something like that if he was a general or what she had to be at the meeting that they were
eventually going to do in frame she had to be in the room for that to you know attempt her
assassination yeah so I mean I guess in Vietnam maybe you didn't have mutants with this kind of
power but yeah you don't feel bad about that guy you're not supposed to feel bad about him
kind of a dick and she does impersonate him at the meeting but magneto charles logan and hank
get in there to stop her just in time logan starts freaking out and he's going in and out of the
future and he's got the memories of striker and you see some stuff.
I loved that too.
When they show,
like they show some Jean stuff later on the striker stuff,
showing the previous movies for whatever reason,
maybe it's a cheap nostalgia thing.
It does make it feel bigger to me.
It makes it feel like the culmination of all of these movies when you're
actually referencing them.
It's kind of like when you get a flashback of a comic book too.
It's like,
Oh,
I remember that panel.
There's a lot of stuff in this movie that is very comic book friendly,
which I appreciate.
Do you think, not that we would have the answer to this,
but do you think when they show Brian Cox as Stryker,
he gets paid for that, right?
He's in that movie.
Yeah, I think so.
That's a good deal.
When you just get the call and they're like, by the way,
we're going to show two seconds of your performance from 10 years ago here's a check like oh fuck off give me 20
percent more yeah probably yeah logan roy in my mind like i can't believe it's happened with an
established actor like that who i've seen in so much things but he's forever but he's logan roy
in real life too that's true he's got napoleon he was like joaquin phoenix sucked in that movie
i would have been
much better.
He's like,
oh shit.
He's not afraid
to speak his mind.
Quick tangent.
I said at the time
and I stand by it.
All that fucking
Napoleon movie did
was make me want
to watch a good
Napoleon movie.
That movie could
have been so fucking
good and it was
so fucking bad.
I won't watch it
based on what
everyone said about it.
I think I'm like,
I think I would
just be bored by it.
A little trust tree
right now too.
I was, I turned on Netflix a couple weeks ago and I think I'm like, I think I would just be bored by it. A little trust for you right now too. I was, I turned on
Netflix a couple weeks ago and I
saw it was like the poster
for Unfrosted. I'm like, oh, that is a couple
interesting actors. Maybe I'll check that out. I'm like,
oh, it's about Pop-Tarts? I love Pop-Tarts.
And then I got all the reviews.
I saw Stephen Shane loved it. I saw
like everyone else did. I'm like, I'm gonna
stay away from that one.
I mean, what we need is we
need an x-men movie where they go back to napoleon's time that will be logan fighting in that war that
i'd be down for that that'd be fucking sick uh quick quick quick tangent i don't want to spend
too much time on this but i thought you were going to say you went on netflix and saw the poster for
madam webb which is what i did this past week. Madam Web is now on Netflix.
And I said on the podcast,
I'm boycotting the movies and theaters,
but if you send them to streaming,
I'll watch them.
I'll get nice and high and watch them.
And that's exactly what I did.
I had a pretty good time with it.
It wasn't quite as so bad.
It's good as I wanted it to be.
Like there were,
there were multiple points throughout the movie where you're chuckling,
but there,
for most of it,
you're just confused. Not in terms of like like i don't understand what's happening in terms of
like i don't understand how this got made every single scene with the bad guy is like a scene out
of the room where none of his dialogue matches his mouth so and it's great like and it's not
only that it didn't match his mouth it's like half the movie was shot with him like this
you're just looking at the back of his head and it's like it's it's like half the movie was shot with him like this you're just looking at the back of his
head and it's like it's it's just bizarre but if you are like me and enjoy a bad movie and
chuckle at bad line delivery and stuff like that so bad it's good kind of stuff i think it's worth
watching on netflix it's two hours that's the other thing that kind of sucks i wish it was an
hour and a half but yeah every time a character reveals like a tragic
backstory in madame webb it is hysterical like someone will be like oh my mom died when i was
four and the line is delivered so poorly you're laughing it's crazy i gotta know that that's on
the list i finished out the roadhouse the other day a plus all around incredible for rent and
it's getting a sequel shout out yes mcregor and Gyllenhaal yeah for anyone
Who just wants to have fun and like not
Worry about every little thing of a
You know film have some
Fun in Roadhouse on Prime so fucking fun
There you go there's your recommendations
Now back to the X-Men
Magneto goes to
Shoot Mystique she jumps out the building
Or Hank tries to
Like stop Magneto he winds up curving the
bullet so it still hits her in the in the cast the second movie in which james mcavoy was in a
scene where they curve a bullet he was in wanted i love that ah okay kind of bizarre fun fact for
you what's that uh angelina jolie it was morgan freeman it's got a sneaky good guess. Chris Pratt, a young Chris Pratt is McAvoy's like douchebag roommate co-worker.
He smacks him with a fucking keyboard and then the key spell out.
Fuck you in the air.
Great stuff.
But he later drags Mystique by the bullet in her leg, which is gnarly metal metal.
Very gnarly.
And everyone is seeing it.
They're filming the big mutant fight.
I like the almost super eight style,
like format change when they go to like the crowd footage and stuff.
Beast is drowning Magneto for a while before he gets like hung up by the
wrists.
Like he's an animal for them to take pictures of.
Like he's like King Kong and captivity or something.
Logan is slipping in and out of his past self.
Still.
Charles is like,
you're just on acid.
You're on an acid trip.
You're okay.
He's trying to convince him he's fine.
And Kitty Pryde eventually gets it under control.
But Trask is able to use all of the hysteria over this mutant fight as a way to get President Nixon to approve the Sentinel program.
And I like that we get a guy playing Nixon in the movie.
Yeah.
Instead of just like, you know, President Kelly or like a random nameless whatever.
Yeah.
You have the whole JFK stuff and now the Nixon stuff.
They have a little recording in the office that you're like, oh, they're doing the tapes and they're turning it off.
Just so as, again, a history guy.
The, like you said, the filming is so cool because that's something Darren Revelle would have posted on his Twitter.
Remember when Mystique was out as mutants?
This day in 1973.
And just Magneto, how he's just so like, he doesn't even think when he's doing stuff.
He's just dragging her by the calf.
Magneto is, how do I say this without committing?
I already, I have the big purple guy who wiped out half the year.
You came at me for
shouting out jersey over dinklage you better watch your words here
magneto could just fuck everything up and everyone up and just like murder the world
essentially and it's he has amazing restraint can we just say that like beast tries to drown his
ass and he's like i'm just gonna like tie you up and not murder that's a
good point that's a good well later on even with logan like i'm not gonna skip that we'll get but
it's like he shows restraint to a degree yeah yes it's like when your dad plays you in basketball
and he lets you score a couple points or whatever he's not just like doing he's not doing the loud
sean back he's not 17 times yeah he's not gonna let you win let you in the game yeah yes exactly and
that's baguio's essentially doing that that's one once he has the helmet and charles can't stop him
it's like everyone's if he wanted to especially a guy with his past and it's like you can't blame
him uh going down a very very dark path here with the bag you know i'm gonna stop you right now
the scene where he gets the helmet back though that scene is shot almost more comic booky than any other scene in the movie in all the silhouettes they use.
The silhouette of just like Michael Fassbender in the hat that we would always see like Ian McKellen wear and stuff like that.
I love that with the blue, the glowing blue background and stuff.
I don't love the train sequence where he gets the steel and infuses it into the Sentinels.
Like, I'm fine with the idea of that.
It feels so video gamey when they show like the tracks going into the
Sentinel guns.
I hate to say it.
That's what lost him the Oscar to interstellar right there.
They were going to win without that,
but like that scene.
And there's maybe one other scene later on where it looks really,
really video gamey and it doesn't ruin the movie.
It doesn't ruin the scene, but it does take me out of it a little bit just doing his own stitches
like yeah that's incredible yeah also what did you think about when he's doing the metal balls
twirling around i like it but then it seems it's like a little corny at some points too and i think
they're trying to shout out like the ian mckellen they're trying to show you he's eventually going to transition
but i do love the memes of like he basically looked like michael fastbender in the 90s
and then by 2000 he looked like ian mckellen like he has president ears real quick president years
that'll do it man though it's like you know you live through the holocaust you're in a mutant war your whole life essentially like that'll if you don't
if you have to retcon or something that's how you do it yeah mystique finds magneto he tells
her everything and she fucking like basically boom roasts him and walks away she's like yeah
that's why you suck you don't stop with killing one person you just want to kill everyone
walked right away from him and it's one of those things where again he shows some restraint he lets her walk away
where it's like he'll but he'll be back later he's the shark from jaws he's just you know
taking his time uh meanwhile xavier starts getting his powers back because he's kind of going through
withdrawals but he collapses into the mansion and decides to stay off the drugs go back to the old
him oh lord forgive me don't let me go back to the old me he literally blows the dust off the
cerebro helmet puts it on blows a fuse they're like we got to go flip the breaker what what the
fuck happened there charles wolverine gives him a pep talk and another one of the best scenes in
the movie here he invites him into his own head. He said, come into my head, whatever.
I could handle it.
I could handle you in my head.
He sees a lot of the genes suffering from Logan's past,
or I guess his future, Logan's past.
And Logan has this great line.
He says, we need you to hope, or no, this isn't Logan's line.
He has him communicate with his future self.
So we get the scene where James Mc mcavoy and patrick stewart
talking to each other and patrick stewart says to james mcavoy his younger self we need you to hope
again and you know as a new hope guy as a star wars guy i love hope as the narrative or the
storyline of a movie keep the hope alive and that's exactly what he does he finds raven through
the cerebro he actually come back through people all over the airport another professor x power that i love when you take that
you and it's his you know not his voice but his voice coming through them and she turns him down
as well and unfortunately i think she gives such a stale delivery in this scene like i really like
jennifer lawrence like i'm a hunger games fan i like her in a bunch
of other movies i don't know if she was just bored with mystique already at this point she's so bad
in the scene it's weird and she's headed to washington dc they do figure that out um and
hank has like dvr he's like i've i have these three tvs set up to record any news about paris
did he invent dvr i think he did. I think they kind of do like
a wink-wink, like, hey, you can do it.
You can do it all. Yeah, it's
definitely a wink-wink at DVR.
Then they have this ceremony
to unveil the Sentinels, and this kind of kicks
off the third act, the big finale of
the movie. It's a quick ceremony.
They show the Sentinels. They do look
purple. I like that they at least included
that in the 70s version of them.
Charles freezes Mystique just as she's about to, you know, pose as somebody else and commit the assassination.
And Magneto, meanwhile, he's bringing a whole goddamn baseball field over there.
He drops it around the White House, which I always loved, like enclosing the White House.
I don't know how structurally it would have stayed together if the metal the concrete coming with it i don't know how that would have worked but
it ain't that kind of movie kid and he takes over all the sentinels of course he makes them go
bananas they're shooting everyone the future x-men are in immediate danger as well where this is the
the low point for our heroes in the movie. Storm is able to delay the danger a little bit.
She charges up Bishop.
That's very badass, but they both get killed.
Magneto gets stabbed, and he kind of, like,
goes to board everything up.
We're Logan in the room where Logan is.
He's, like, dying in a room with Charles Xavier,
which is heavy.
It's big.
Colossus dies.
Sunspot dies.
Blink dies. Things are not going well you know they're
probably going to come around by the end of the movie but there's like 20 minutes left and you're
like how quickly are they going to have to come around you do get that pit in your stomach when
you're watching all these heroes that you love is the worst one too right that's the worst death
definitely definitely the worst but when magneto gets like hit hard you're just like oh fuck
anything's on the table now.
Then once Storm, it's like, oh, we're...
Well, that's the other thing.
It's like, is this the Magneto redemption?
Are they going to kill him off for good here to be like,
the mutants are surviving because of Magneto?
You start going through all the possibilities in your head
of what could happen here.
Yeah.
Would you say the stadium scene is a top five scene in the X-Men movies?
Him bringing the stadium over?
Yeah. Because when I think of the old prequel movies, this and First Class, I think of this and The Coin.
They're the two scenes I think of.
The best X-Men scenes. This, The the coin nightcrawler in the uh white house
white house you know i love magneto in the church that's like i don't know if that's for everyone or
if that's just for me in x3 um it could be it could be top five scene i would probably put
rick silver's prison break sequence above this person okay i'm gonna say for me i'm gonna say
top five maybe even top three just because it's because it's such a creative take, right?
It's better than the Golden Gate Bridge, which is interesting because he kind of does it with the Golden Gate Bridge in X3.
But it's like, oh, he's moving a big thing.
For some reason, enclosing the White House around a baseball stadium is way cooler.
Exactly.
It's metal.
It's got a metal in it.
It's fucking metal.
Did you also catch they
said something about robert appenheimer oh they did didn't they yeah i did the little
i know what that means now i didn't know what that meant 10 years ago obviously yeah
shit wow like i am death or something like that so it was i would love a cgi like put
killian murphy in this movie now and open up the Oppenheimer cinematic universe. Just smoking a butt.
Then the way young Magneto here,
he twists the metal bars into Wolverine nasty.
The way they're going in and out of his, you know, bones everywhere.
He pulls the entire safe room out of the white house as well,
which is bad-ass. He's just like, I know like safe room. you're in a metal safe room it's magneto like you know magneto magnets
um he turns all the cameras on himself and he gives like a we are the future speech another
great moment if you were you know count this whole stadium sequence at the moment great magneto
moment and feel so his character to make that speech and want the world
watching they showed toad as like a fry cook or a chef or something like watching along who was so
desperate for an employee that they hired that fucking guy freak whoa this jersey jersey just
i'm sorry i'll say he's a freak toad is an absolute freak. This Toad specifically.
Ray Parks Toad, you could get away with it.
This Toad, his face is bubbling at all times.
I do not support this kind of slated trick fuel that are just different than us, Robbie.
I do not support this.
This is not the reviews.
Not the views of Barstool Sports.
This is the Jersey Trask in me coming out.
Wolverine's thrown into water.
He starts drowning.
The so-called President Nixon steps out, prepared to sacrifice himself.
And Magneto, this guy is smart, but he's not so smart because this dummy falls for this.
He gets shot in the neck by Mystique.
It's actually Mystique, of course.
And he gets shot in the neck, not fatally, not right in the middle of the neck, kind of a glancing blow.
But right as she goes to, to like do it again or shoot,
she goes to shoot Trask.
Charles freezes her right on time.
She puts the gun down and the future is safe.
So as soon as she puts the gun down,
everything that's happening to our X-Men in the future,
they just vanish, gone.
So we can assume, all right, this has probably worked.
And Charles lets them go.
Mystique and eric has hope
he tells hank of course the age word on his his older self the movie ends with a very cool scene
of wolverine waking up in the x mansion confused he sees rogue he sees bobby we see the white and
wolverine's hair so we know this is this is our wolverine he's an older wolverine we're not doing
a flashback here see kitty pride andryde and Colossus teaching together.
Kelsey Grammer's Beast makes a nice cameo.
He's like, oh, you're just waking up, Logan?
Oh, my stars and garters.
Walks past, whatever.
Storm.
And finally, Jean Grey, which was the big shock.
That was the big everyone went, oh, in the movie theater.
You know, like she's wearing your typical Jean red, the gene red hair and everything uh and we're in
a new future we're in a new reality that they have set up to retcon x3 basically they're like
sorry about that um you don't have to worry about that anymore everyone's still alive
charles realizes it and when he has that face like when when kind of like composed of something, it was welcome back, Logan. It's so good. So perfectly Charles Xavier.
We see striker quote unquote striker and his team finding Logan in the water
in 73, but of course it's actually mystique.
So we can assume she let him go, I guess at some point.
Now the thing some people have brought up about the ending,
there was a Wolverine in this universe that was a teacher.
So, like, when he woke up in this universe, does that Wolverine cease to exist?
And he is that Wolverine.
Does he have that Wolverine's memories?
Did he kill that Wolverine by coming back?
Another one of those things where, if I'm being completely honest with our listeners, I just prefer not to think about it too think about it too much yes i was gonna say the easiest way to go about that is to just
not think about it at all it's not that kind of movie kid yeah enjoy the happy ending i had read
that um initially like the striker thing was like oh fuck now this is how he gets him for the weapon
x program and then it's like no it's just mystique and they i think they changed it because it was
kind of like a sad ending for wolverine in that sense he's gonna get tortured but it's like a little weird
though because he is he's weapon x and apocalypse yeah so i i don't like the thing of that either
it's like i'm just gonna make believe that was striker striker's a fucking dick we already hate
his guts so just like that it happened it happens the striker stuff i thought was weird to include
to be honest i thought a better ending was him waking up in the mansion and like, welcome back, cut the black on that.
He was just kind of always like with his little shit-eating face and he's just, I guess, an henchman essentially.
So yeah, I didn't like that at all.
But I understand they're trying to like establish him for – because he's such a big part of the old movies.
I also read that Jean Grey – I don't know if this is true.
People are just making up. She's in the park looking up at magneto when he's moving the stadium
oh really i'm jean gray so i don't know if that's if that's legit and then i also there was an
unwritten back i read this online there was an unwritten backstory to produce a producer talked
about that trash was a part of a group responsible for attempting to assassinate jfK and that he also had, if any soldier had a higher than anticipated kill,
like number,
he would be subjected to the trash to figure it out if they were mute.
So there was like a whole thing where he's,
you know,
lining up those mutants and,
you know,
piling up to do his tests.
I liked his little mutant detector.
Like the scenes where you start holding your breath of like,
Oh no,
there's a mutant in the room.
They know it.
Like, that's like good stuff. That's good for tension. Yeah. I also love, like the scenes where you start holding your breath of like, oh no, there's a mutant in the room and they know it. Like, that's like good
stuff. That's good for tension.
I also love, like you said, I love
Magneto Feld for the old Mystique trick that
everyone falls for.
And it kind of made me like,
I don't want to say it. Okay.
I'm not going to talk about the show, but I understand
what Jose says about secret invasion in the comics
now. Because like, if there's a thousand Mystiques, because Mystique always plays the goddamn
trick on you.
And I sniffed it out in the movie theater.
I was like, that's not Nixon.
That's Mystique Nixon.
But if anyone could be Mystique, it's a real fucking mindfuck.
And the fact they come out years later.
So I wish they did that.
Yeah. out years later so uh i wish they did that better yeah and then you get a post-credit scene that sets up x-men apocalypse that i've totally forgot about this post-credit scene because even seeing
n sabah nur i was like oh shit like we saw him in x-men 97 last week and i remember seeing that
and being like who the fuck is this guy like whatever we get him here as a young apocalypse
like truly young like he, like, truly young.
Like, he looks like a kid.
And in the background, you see, like, the four dudes on horses, which is a cool shot.
The four horsemen of the Apocalypse in the background.
It's unfortunate that they were able to cast someone as good as fucking Oscar Isaac and then give him pretty much nothing to work with.
It's worth it for, like I said, the Quicksilver scene,
and then there's the one scene with Magneto losing his daughter in the forest
and going to hell on everyone.
That's amazing.
Pretty much the rest of the 75% of the movie is trash.
Yeah, I'm going to – how about this?
How about the next season of X-Men 97, we just make that the next movie?
It's the same kind we're
meeting apocalypse for the first time and that's how i'm gonna like oh no it was awesome it was a
cartoon made in 2026 we're gonna say i can't imagine it's ready you think it's ready next
year i know it's written and a good chunk of it is done but i think so because they're
they said they're yeah editing now yeah the composer, he could probably edit it tomorrow.
That fucking show off.
Did you prepare a fast food review for this one?
I'm between a few right now.
So let me hear yours.
Let me hear yours.
I have one that I feel okay about, and it goes back to how I felt on opening night with my friends.
I'm going to compare this to the Burger King chicken fries.
Really good.
I really like chicken fries.
But when they came back, I feel like people were talking about them
like they were the greatest fast food item ever created.
And I tried them and I was like, those were great.
But like they were the chicken fries I love and remember.
They weren't like, I'm not like mind blown.
I've never had anything like that.
You know what I mean?
So while I love them, I just don't think they're the goat, but really good product.
So mine was, and it's, it's, it's, you know, me, I try to get like fancy with it.
It's the extra crispy chicken from KFC.
I'm personally, what's your favorite piece of chicken here, Bob?
I'm a breast guy. I think I'm a drumstick guy, to be honest your favorite piece of chicken here bob i'm a breast
guy i think i'm a drumstick guy to be honest with you that's fair i'm a white meat person
you're a dark meat person you know it's weird he's gonna sound hypocritical i'm a white meat person
but i think the breast is almost like too it's like i don't like eating a breast i like just
being able to eat a drumstick real quick clean it off off, and I'm done. If you were to cut up the meat,
I would like the white meat better. Sure. Okay.
That's fair. The kids, the drumsticks are the
biggest hits with the kids. They just love just
chomping on them. It's like a cartoon character.
I have no problem with that. I'm a diehard white meat
guy, but with
the KFC original, that's
kind of like the old school X-Men, but
I think the extra crispy, you could just
fucking... The extra crispy guy? Yeah, you get the extra crispy, and then back when i think the extra crispy you could just fucking the good guy yeah you get the extra crispy and then back when i was on keto you could just rip the skin
off and if you just eat the chicken it's pretty much keto friendly because as long as you're not
eating all the you know breaded stuff it's pretty good so i i just think this thing plays on the
inside plays on the outside and you rip the mystique off and then you eat here i i am i happy that, like, I wasn't going crazy back in the day.
This time I tried to be like, oh, it's not so bad.
But it is very mean wily.
I'm very happy you saw that too.
So those are two pretty big heavy hitters, the chicken fries and the KFC extra crispy chicken.
Yeah, well, both went with chicken.
Mine's in a similar place.
Similar but different. Like Charles and
Xavier. There we go.
Like Charles and Eric.
Also, this
Magnus stuff, I don't like hearing them calling him
Magnus. It just feels weird. You don't like the
Magnus? I like a Magnus every now and then.
I don't know. It just...
I like Eric more than Magnus,
but every now and then I like a Magnus.
You like Thurgen? Okay, that's fair.
Yeah, mix it up.
I like when they call Superman.
When you call him Superman or Clark too much, throw in a Kal-El.
Give us one of those.
Yes, yeah, yeah.
I do, too.
I like that.
My guy.
My guy.
Your guy, exactly.
I love Kevin Smith's story, too.
Halfway through shooting, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Kevin Smith's legendary story about him writing Superman, if you've never seen it.
So, so, so worth looking up on YouTube or wherever it's found.
But he talks about going to John Peter's house and John Peter's laying down and going like this and going, all right, read me the script.
He starts reading him the script and he's like, Kal-El does this.
Kal-El does that when he's back on Krypton and whatnot.
And he's like, hold on, hold on.
Who the fuck is Kal-El?
He's like, it's Superman. That's who the fuck is Kal-El? He's like,
it's Superman.
That's who you hired me to write a movie about.
Actually.
Classic stuff.
I know James gone.
Isn't in that same boat though.
James gone knows who Kal-El is.
He's going to deliver on that.
Just like I believe Deadpool and Wolverine is going to deliver on a level
that brings Marvel back.
Shout out Marvel.
Jesus, Ryan Reynolds, Deadpool, Wade Wilson.
And thanks for joining us on another stop on the way to the road to Deadpool.
What do we got hashtag wise?
We got a fun hashtag for this week.
Hashtag, let's see.
There's something Days of Future Past related, funny line.
Hashtag Logan on acid. Yes,. Hashtag Logan on acid.
Yes, I like that.
Hashtag Logan on acid, which may exist for, you know,
there might be someone went to a music festival with their friend named Logan
and he was on acid.
Maybe they hashtagged it before, but hashtag Logan on acid.
If you made it to the end of this episode, enjoy Memorial Day weekend, everybody.
We'll talk to you next week for, I guess, just a news item mailbag episode.
I don't know.
Maybe we watch Logan on acid.
All right, listen.
We can't.
We can't watch Logan on acid.
We would be fucked up.
If this trends on top 10 on Twitter, is that a deal?
Deal.
Top 10 trends. Yeah. Top 10 trends worldwide on Twitter. Is that a deal? Deal. Top 10 trends.
Yeah.
Top 10 trends worldwide on Twitter.
We will do Watch Logan on Asset.
That would be the most fun.
We won't do a podcast.
We're just going to stream ourselves watching it on Asset.
But if that doesn't happen, we probably won't do Logan next week.
So don't prepare for that.
Or you can watch it on Asset if you want in your own time.
But it's your joy.
Memorial Day weekend.
You could get wild, but be safe, everyone.
Be safe.
We want you in the basement next week as well.
All right.
We'll see you then.