My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 357 - THE ACOLYTE EPISODES 1 AND 2

Episode Date: June 5, 2024

Robbie and Clem recap and review Episodes 1 and 2 of #TheAcolyte - the latest Star Wars offering from Disney Plus - and discuss what they liked/didn't like about it! Overall, Robbie and Clem both real...ly enjoyed it and were pleasantly surprised, which makes for a VERY positive show this week! #StarWars #TheMandalorian PFL: Tune in on Thursday June 13th at 9p ET on ESPN and ESPN+, and tickets are available now on Ticketmaster https://plus.espn.com/pfl **************************************** My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike! Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement and a very special two-episode premiere edition of My Mom's Basement. Not that we're doing two episodes today, but we will be talking about two episodes of the newest Star Wars show, The Acolyte, taking place a hundred years before the phantom menace we have never seen this era of star wars before we heard a lot about it you know before the show premiered we talked about it last week the glowing reviews online the not so glowing reviews from ken jack i think it fell somewhere in the middle for me clem i don't know where it fell for you
Starting point is 00:00:43 how we doing doing good very special so this is a very special are we are you prepared to promise the listeners and viewers at home very special i can live with special okay all right very special the game up honestly a very special month of my mom's basement this kind of kicks off my mom's basement month june we've got the acolyte we've got house of my mom's basement month, June. We've got the Acolyte. We've got House of the Dragon coming back June 16th. We've got the boys coming back. We've got a ton. So it's going to be crazy.
Starting point is 00:01:12 It's going to be hectic. There's going to be a lot of people in the basement, a lot of bodies. You're going to have to be like, let me go find my seat. But trust me, your seat is saved. All right, I'm going to do the Cam Newton meme event. Very special. Like, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:01:23 Like, you're dialed in now. Very special episode. And it's special because I went into this premiere, I guess, two episodes. Very concerned. Bob, trust tree. We're in the trust tree, right? Basement is the trust i had a um idea that if this was really bad this series we were gonna do a movie recap along kind of like we did with boogie nights something you've never seen before but something i
Starting point is 00:01:56 love and we would watch the movie together and it would be kind of like all right we did act like this is a guy who has to cover the 2024 Mets in a podcast so like we talked a lot of Knicks in the beginning of the season we thought we're going to be talking god knows what in August and September you have to think of other ways to fill the content air and I'm happy to tell you I don't see in a reason as of right now that we have to go a moving way because I'm I'm very happy I was very happy with the first two very happy yeah I'm gonna say. I was very happy with the first two. Very happy. Yeah, I'm going to say it. I was very happy with the first two episodes. What do you think about that, Bob? Honestly, I'm surprised, but I'm not surprised.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Because I think maybe we're on the same level here. Our worries skyrocketed when Ken Jack started sending us those texts last week about maybe it's like a CW Star Wars show. Low budget this, low budget that. I think my expectations hit the floor. And when I watched this, I was pretty pleasantly surprised. I've watched both episodes twice now, watched them when they premiered last night, watched them this morning again.
Starting point is 00:02:54 I actually liked them even more this morning when I kind of knew the characters and knew where the story was going. The first time, it is a little all over the place. I think especially episode one with characters planets the editing the pacing everything about it i was a little mr crabs meme about it of like all right i'm down for this but i don't really know what's happening or who this guy is the second time i was kind of like all right i get the story and i had to temper my expectations a little bit as well because it's not
Starting point is 00:03:22 exactly the kind of show i thought it would be i think the acolyte very clearly after two episodes is a show for young adults it's like kind of a teen drama it feels not like degrassi or one tree hill but maybe to make the ken jack cw point maybe a little river dale-ish in that it's a it's a teen drama about young adults, about them finding their place in this world and them growing up, essentially. So looking at it through that lens and especially after, you know, George Lucas spent the week at Cannes Film Festival being like Star Wars was for kids. That's what people don't understand. I was making the movies for kids, their kids movies. It's like it's a it's a kid kid show, maybe not like a little kid show, but it's a kid show. And it's pretty well done in that. Like, I didn't have any scenes in the
Starting point is 00:04:11 first two episodes that hit me like the Leia flea chase scene. There was nothing where I was like, oh, that's embarrassing. I can't believe this is where Star Wars is going. The production value definitely looks a little lower than what we're expecting out of star wars but not in an embarrassing way like you i liked the first two episodes i enjoyed myself yeah i'm happy with the way everything uh has gone everything or the way everything looks it's going kind of like you said with the young adult it it feels like oh i remember that was one of the things with miss marvel like this show is clearly not written for me i feel like i can get into this show for sure that one not nearly as much so with that being said like but it's like so far this is the thing the way the trailer looked
Starting point is 00:04:55 versus the way the first two episodes looked i'm happier with the episodes than the trail the trailer i was just like i i just didn't think it was gonna be i don't know i maybe it's gonna end up being that kind of show but the way the first two episodes were i enjoy it we're getting four shit we're getting just crazy stuff um it kind of feels like a little star wars video gamey too i don't know if you got any of those vibes so i'm i'm i'm in right now and i trust me uh again trust tree hitting that play button for the first time we've been through a lot here in the basement i don't and listen it's a job i'm not going to complain about my job it's a fucking literal dream job but i'm like i i just can't go through another bad
Starting point is 00:05:35 disney plus series because it just takes my soul and just puts it in a blender and i walked away by the end time i hit power at the end of episode two. I was like, damn, let's rock. I'm interested to see what happens next. So all in all, thumbs up from the basement boys so far. Yeah. And what we've heard is that these are the slowest, worst episodes out of the screeners, at least, you know, the people that got screeners saw the first four. Everyone said it just keeps getting better as it goes along.
Starting point is 00:06:00 If that is the case for the rest of the show, we're in good hands. I feel good about this. And I already am dreading the discourse. I'm not not gonna lie about what this show is gonna bring i've already seen people say you know i have no idea how you could even withstand watching this disney's ruined and wokeified star you know the talking points that come up every single time with star wars i am dreading that i'm not gonna lie and i'm dreading the people that are gonna say we're just acting positive to act positive because people are shitting on it this is our genuine thoughts on on the acolyte way it's not andor it's not the mandalorian we're not like this is awesome star wars is back but it's just like oh this is okay this is nowhere near
Starting point is 00:06:41 as bad as we were preparing for this is kind kind of enjoyable. It's, again, a lower budget Star Wars show. It's almost like if Star Wars had like a Star Trek budget. Like I would expect like a Star Trek show to look and feel like this. Is the dialogue great? Not really. Is the characters, we don't have like a character yet where I'm like, he's my fucking guy.
Starting point is 00:07:01 I love that guy. We'll get there though. It's two episodes, 30 minutes. As for just a start start a kickoff, I think they did a very good job. I would rate my enjoyment out of this, honestly, like a seven out of 10, which I really didn't expect.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Ball scale, please. We use the ball scale around these parts. Sorry, sorry. The ball scale, like 3.5, is that? I'll say like 3.7 for me, which again is higher than I thought. This is the thing. I actually think the lower budget helps it because there were times with star wars some of the properties
Starting point is 00:07:30 where it would be like it was like watching a piece of shit get lit on fire but inside like a golden chalice it looked too good for the content being so bad right so it's like if you just have kind of a little bit of the flaws you do with a lot of shows, but it has the Star Wars universe, the Star Wars, you know, lightsabers and the ticks and all that kind of stuff with the aliens. I think it fucking, it could work. And listen, Andor, the first three episodes, I was like sleeping during them. So it's like, it didn't become Andor until, you know, the jailbreak scene and all that other kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:08:00 And our fucking boy just dropping lines. What's our guy's name again? Andy Serkis. Was it him? Or nouther luther luther just dropping fucking bombs on people lyrical bombs he bombs atomically so uh i i don't know man oh and as for the discourse i was going this way ever since like i think uh rise of skywalker after last jedi was a full-blown civil war between star wars fans i think rise of skywalker after last jedi was a full-blown civil war between star wars fans they brought the skywalker everyone was just like that's when you realize you're in war with each other and there's no one's wins the war it was one of those things i don't care anymore i don't i saw that someone said that there's like a review bomb going on with rotten tomatoes i go on twitter
Starting point is 00:08:37 probably 10 as much as i did probably like three or four years ago i just don't care anymore the internet is going to be negative they're're going to just be who they are. You just have to kind of find your little cult, kind of, and just have fun with each other there. There's a diehard star with people who are going to love everything. There's a diehard haters who are going to hate everything. Find the people that kind of fit into you. We're kind of in the barstool cult.
Starting point is 00:08:59 And it's like, I think there's a good mix of people here that can be relatively rational in 2024. That's all you can ask for, man. That's how I see the internet as a whole, right? I'm seeing things, Bob. I was going to say, that's peaceful. That's serene. That's very Jedi-like.
Starting point is 00:09:13 I mean, you're that Jedi in episode two that's just fucking sitting there silently. And it's like, yeah, you can't phase him. He's just sitting there. I mean, I lose a little bit of weight and some inches in height. I could be like, you know, the white boy Yoda right here. Cause that's all. Oh, that's a new nickname. Oh, that's a good nickname.
Starting point is 00:09:30 The white boy Yoda Clem. There's our hashtag. White boy Yoda. That's good. Yoda, by the way, very much alive and leading the Jedi council at the time of the acolyte. So we know we're a hundred years prior to the phantom menace. We're not going to see a lot of the characters that we could potentially see pop up.
Starting point is 00:09:49 But if they show us the Jedi Council at any point there, I think they're going to have to show us Yoda unless they're like, he's in the bathroom or he's in the shower. Like, come on. That would be funny if it was a running bit where it's like, Yoda's never there, but you see his seat is empty. It has his little name play and they're like, ah, he they're like ah he like yeah he he's had to see about a girl and he's taking a dump that would be so funny your your yoda thing triggered something in my mind too last night again i'm telling you i was very like worried about how this was gonna go i watched the darth vader rogue one scene and like a bunch of Baby Yoda like highlight clips and then like
Starting point is 00:10:27 even user created stuff just to kind of get me in like a good Star Wars movie leading into this and I didn't even watch this last night when it debuted at 9 o'clock I was tired and I was like listen I don't want to go into this tired and grumpy and I came in fresh maybe that's it maybe the 3am releases
Starting point is 00:10:44 and like staying up and like maybe everything we've been watching was actually a gem. It turns out. So I'm happy to hear this. I hope. Have you gotten a vibe from the listeners right now? How everyone else is feeling? I've seen some pretty positive stuff, to be honest, on Twitter. Like I said, there's the occasional like I'll get a tweet like you're lying about liking this.
Starting point is 00:11:03 It's woke. It's Disney five. They ruined everything everything there's no white people in it and then i'll click on their profile and they don't even follow me so it's they're finding my tweets through the hashtag it seems like a lot of the people that follow us and follow the podcast i think they all have a pretty similar vibe to us and that it's not like oh my god this is amazing the mandalorian but it's just like oh okay this could be good and it's the way the show is structured to it and the mystery and the way it unravels it almost has to have that vibe you know it's not going to kick the door down with an amazing premiere it's just slowly
Starting point is 00:11:34 giving us peeks at the mystery which is intriguing i'm like i don't really know where it's going the first episode the twist let's just get into it. Yeah, let's get into it. Episode one, we get a crawl right away, which I enjoyed. We talked about a crawl last week. We were like, why don't they just do crawls? They give us a little crawl here, and the whole crawl reads, 100 years before the rise of the Empire, it is a time of peace. The Jedi Order and the Galactic Republic have prospered for centuries without war,
Starting point is 00:12:05 but in the dark corners of the galaxy, a powerful few learn to use the force in secret one of them a lone assassin risks discovery to seek revenge a good crawl i gotta be honest it's a very brief crawl three sentences or four sentences whatever um but that made me excited that gave me the vibe of like oh shit this is star wars it's feeling star warsy so two things on that one the the star wars blue is an underrated part of the universe and i love that goddamn i don't even know what it is it's fucking i mean i'm sure that idiot rebel has like the the pad alone or whatever the fuck they call it but that blue is the battle and you made it a pant andwan. And the other thing is, a lot of people are saying, oh, 100 years before the rise of the Empire,
Starting point is 00:12:49 that's 100 years before Phantom Menace. But then other people are saying 100 years before Sith, because that's when the Empire really, the more, the more galactic Empire. So how funny would it have been, by the way, if it said like, the Emperor is born.
Starting point is 00:13:03 I can't say that the P word somehow, somehow, I told you guys, this would be a very special episode. The white boy Yoda actually said, uh, that's my favorite nickname, the white boy Yoda. Oh, that's good. That's good. And we begin on a planet called Yuda with an assassin. And we learned his name is May. I'm looking for a Jedi. This is the scene that I talked about being the post-credit scene.
Starting point is 00:13:35 If you saw the Phantom Menace, it's the entire, probably the first four minutes of the episode, which I didn't realize it would kick things off, but it was cool. The Jedi is Carrie Ann Moss from The Matrix, Trinity herself. She's playing a Jedi named Master Indara, who I swear to God, I was under the impression was the main character of this show. And I was stoked about everyone that would listen. I'd be like, there's going to be a new Star Wars show with Trinity from The Matrix. That was how I was selling this show to people. Oh, man, I regret that after watching this scene uh may walks up to her she's like we've got unfinished business she wants her to attack
Starting point is 00:14:10 may wants the jedi to attack her first they get into this big fight very felt very matrix influenced and it's like martial arts style the way they hop up to the balcony and they're pushing each other back and stuff very cool may eventually kills indara by threatening the bartender with a knife and then throwing the knife through her chest my big note on this was thank god a knife to the heart actually killed her because star wars has actually like trained me in a bad direction now where i saw the knife to the heart and i was like please don't tell me she survives that and she's totally fine in the next episode even though i wanted her to be the main character of this show and it seems that maybe she'll be in it for four minutes if we don't get a flashback at some point yeah uh that fight was awesome it was so i see this and i'm
Starting point is 00:14:55 like oh fuck this is the fourth show we were hoping for we're getting jedi but we're not hitting the same old beats it's kind of a little different. And I don't, I imagine the Sith doesn't have like PowerPoints and meetings and whatever, but it does feel like attacking an innocent person to get the Jedi's guard down is kind of the way to kill a Jedi. I was like, that was very smart. I appreciated that you did that. I also was very surprised. We just lost Trinity just like that. that what there was a movie i mean shoot probably was even that reason it's probably 15 20 years ago now at this point where it was like i think it was like a matt damon movie or something and you think matt damon's in it and
Starting point is 00:15:33 he dies in like the first five minutes there's i think i might know exactly what you're talking about is it brian cranston in the first godzilla no it's i've heard about that one that one is crazy dude he's in all the trailers and he's in the movie for 10 minutes maybe and he's good in the movie but he plays like the mad scientist who nobody believes for decades and then you know he shows up or whatever maybe there was a matt day matt damon is one of those weird cameo guys he loves making a quick cameo in a weird movie uh let's see here i'm gonna look 60 movies that killed all the major stars shockingly real dream i'm gonna is you is the big one I feel like
Starting point is 00:16:06 yeah Scream is up there I'm going to say it I'm going to like if I say I don't want to like give stuff away here I see Brian Cranston is on this list just in case there's a spoiler for like 10 20 year old movies nothing here I mean Scream might have been what I was thinking of maybe I thought of Scream because there was so much of of uh i will just say drew barrymore so i don't think we did i don't
Starting point is 00:16:28 think we have to hide that anymore uh but yeah there was some there's some big ones there very cool fight to kick the show off though it actually reminded me a little bit as well of the fight from the beginning of shang chi remember when is it his parents are fighting or there's like a real martial artsy fight in the beginning of that where they're using the leaves with it and everything. And like you said, it's not just hitting the same, we're whipping out lightsabers right away and we're doing the exact same thing you're used to.
Starting point is 00:16:56 It gives us a little different look. That's what I liked about Ahsoka when they said, we're going to let Ezra be like the martial arts force Jedi. It's like, oh shit shit. It makes sense. If there's thousands of Jedi, especially at this point, when the Jedi are at their peak, probably don't all fight the exact same way in the exact same style. So I like that.
Starting point is 00:17:12 I honestly like the look of the entire planet. A lot of the planets in this so far, it was one of the things that I don't think Ken Jack loved about the show, the look of the show. I saw some people saying it felt low budget, but it never felt not Star wars-y to me every planet that they visit um even the marketplace like planet in the second episode i was like yeah this feels like it would fit in any of the other star wars shows we watch i could see the mandalorian or obi-wan appearing on these planets brother i mean
Starting point is 00:17:40 i've made this point a million times the old this show would have taken place solely on tatooine if it was made like three years ago i'm just so happy we're going even like you said it's a little choppy how we're going from one planet to the other it's fun just going to like cool different planets that might have some weird shit like some weird plants are just like popping fucking pollen or whatever i don't know like i just like you could do anything in the world you want you're making this entire universe galaxy whatever you want to call it up it's so it's such like a they dropped the ball that so many times i think in star wars where i think when you play the video games and stuff sometimes you go to different
Starting point is 00:18:14 places oh shit this place is pretty cool so i'm happy we're not like going to tatooine going to hoth again it's like why are we in hoth this is a fucking it was a nobody part of planet that was in like the greatest movie of them all. So I just, I love it. And it also helps when they put the planet on the screen. I love that every single time. Oh, I need it. And it helps when you're going to all these different planets we haven't seen.
Starting point is 00:18:35 When you actually put Coruscant on there and you show us the Jedi temple, it provokes that like, oh, we know that one. Cool. And it, you know, makes us feel cool about a planet that had some horrific things happen about 100 years later i also like seeing coruscant like you see they're building it up right you know they're it's like it's kind of like seeing like new york city in the 1920s you're like holy shit it's got like warmer colors yeah right it's a little warmer than it is a little more new york city-ish in prequels. And I do think I do think in Star Wars and all the properties, if you're going to use one planet, that's like the like very the axis, like the heliocentric, like you're revolving around it. Let it be Coruscant. That makes a lot more sense to tattoo me. That is like known for not having anything. Coruscant could be the place where everything kind of starts and ends. And I think that makes perfect sense. So as much as I love
Starting point is 00:19:29 going to different planets, I'm fine with that being the one planet that is going to be like a focus because obviously it's a very important planet in the galaxy. Now, let me ask you this, the very next scene after you get like the acolyte title card or whatever, we meet Osha, who is May's twin. She's on the ship the republic ship her droid pip we meet the droid i love that little pocket droid that thing's awesome did you were you the same as me where i mean the second they show osha i'm like okay that must be your twin like there was no part of me that thought that was her and i think they revealed it in the trailer at some point or a poster or something i think i knew going in that this was a twin.
Starting point is 00:20:07 So when they tried to do like almost a twist mid episode, that did not hit for me. I had no clue. I had no clue. When I saw it, I go, murderer, you're bad. Why do you seem so nice now? Because you seem so bad when you just killed that innocent Jedi, beloved Trinity. Her lightsaber was green. That means she's really, really good.
Starting point is 00:20:28 She has a green lightsaber, right? At least for me, I completely didn't see it coming. I imagine I consumed a lot less like free episode content than you did getting ready for this. Yeah. So we meet her. She works on a Republic ship as a mechnic which basically means she's doing the work of an astromech droid she's walking out with like space boots on the side of a ship repairing shield generators stuff like that and she's even saying i
Starting point is 00:20:55 liked the line where she's like this is weird like their trade republic never uses shield generators and they're like maybe that's why we got to repair them it's like well the trade routes are about to get closed down and you know maybe not in your lifetime but it's why we got to repair them. It's like, well, the trade routes are about to get closed down and, you know, maybe not in your lifetime, but it's about to become war out here. And we see the Nemodians from episode one, the Phantom Menace, no longer racist. They do not do just like very kind of racist Asian voices anymore. They have different voices, which is good.
Starting point is 00:21:21 And as soon as Osha sees nightmares, or as soon as she sees flame, she has nightmares, which indicate her backstory, which we're going to learn a little later um but yeah nemodians seeing them prequel vibes for sure from the whole show not where were they bad prequel vibes for you like did you get did you get the feeling of like oh i was triggered i i said well that was a good opening scene here, but if this is the path we're going, we're going birds. And I was,
Starting point is 00:21:49 I was ready to go and look for my old like accounting and finance textbooks from college so that I knew what the fuck they were talking about. If we were going to get into trade embargoes and shit like that. So I was like, oh, if we're going to be doing taxes here in star Wars land again, very happy that, you know, like like i if it wasn't those guys because it was like welcome to the phantom menace you've been waiting for this for years these fucking guys
Starting point is 00:22:11 are going to ruin the movie instantly don't worry though there's gonna be a hundred other things you're gonna hate about it luckily they got them off the screen and everything ended up just being okay so i was fine by that but i have to admit i imagine myself and i know other people around my age that feel the similar way. But the Phantom Menace were probably just like, oh, God. And a Jedi ship arrives. It's a guy named Yord Fandar, just the most Star Wars he named. And his paddle was Tassie Lawa.
Starting point is 00:22:43 They're looking for Osha and they get it out of the Nemodian consensually. He's like, thank you for, like giving me that uh with freeway he uses quotes at some point and made me be like yep another one where it's like the jedi kind of dicks especially at this point they're a little they're feeling themselves a little bit too much they're the cops they're the cops they are they're the cops and they're like not going by the book necessarily i don't think they are at least some people like we meet um the like the head the the green lady later on i wrote her name down later she seems like she seems like she's trying to get people to go by the books and everyone's kind of like doing their own thing but jordan osha clearly old pals old pals he's
Starting point is 00:23:22 super serious we learn a little bit more about her journey with the Jedi. She was taken in when she was eight years old. She left the Jedi Order six years ago, lost her whole family in a fire. And that's when she got brought in. And then they bring in an eyewitness from the bar who's like, yep, that's her. And they're like, I'm sorry. I can believe you, but we have an eyewitness. So we have to arrest you.
Starting point is 00:23:45 They take her back to the ship and they put her in prison where she sees like a prisoner with a parasite on his face. All the prisoners are like planning an escape on the on their own, trying to get her into it. I liked the parasite face thing. It reminded me of Rogue One when they go to the prison and they see like Borgala, the big fucking octopus like getting the truth out of people it's nice to know that star wars has some weird scary
Starting point is 00:24:11 shit going on in their prisons that was something else that i made a note of i said that's the kind of stuff you could do when you're in the star wars galaxy and you can just think of weird ways to inflict torture on people or just have these weird creatures that can help you out. I love that as well. I'm like, all right, we got a little bit of a winning streak going. What is it called in video games? It's like you get the combo breaker or whatever. You're almost full at the bar at this point.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Back at the Jedi Temple on Coruscant, we see who I've written down as Jedi Master Squid Game teaching a class he is actually named Jedi Master Sol but it is the actor from Squid Game and he's interrupted by Master Vernestra this is the woman I referred to earlier green skin and she seems like she's kind of
Starting point is 00:25:00 she's not Yoda but she's kind of the head of the Jedi order in some way here because she's also I think much older than Sol she's like Ioda but she's kind of the head of the jedi order in some way here because she's also i think much older than soul she's like i remember when you were that little it's like oh shit how old does that make you that interesting um and soul clearly liked osha he does not believe that she killed um jedi master and dara so he's pushing back on it a little bit but clearly now in the mystery in the uh in the case study. And Osha's ship crashes as soon as the prison break happens.
Starting point is 00:25:29 She tries to save the guy with the parasite, being a nice person. He abandons her right away. Classic Star Wars-y thing there. And the ship crash lands. People were shitting on this scene, to be honest. They were like, lazy writing. Ship just lands and she's fine. This is the sort of thing that if we're gonna do star
Starting point is 00:25:46 wars tv shows it's that you have to have stuff like this happen but like shit like this happens in the star wars cartoons every week it's something that i don't really bat an eye at to be honest like okay then they can just ride her have her escape an escape pod that is stuck but then she gets it off last second and she still kind of crash lands it's like what are we doing here let's just just take it she seat belted i saw her put her fucking seat belt on that's enough for me i i'm just i'm not kidding like i even saw the thing where it's like why would you have droids just transport your jedi killer you know former former Jedi to the place. And it's like, I understand that too. And then the droids
Starting point is 00:26:27 can just be killed by some fucking cyborg. It's like, that's fair too. But I cannot break this down anymore. I've done it too many times, too many ways with too many different franchises. I'm just going to sit back, relax, and enjoy the ride. And it is what it is. I was fine with it.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Now, if they had landed on that planet and she saw either a Tauntaun or the abominable snowman from Empire, I would have been like, what are we doing? Why are we? We're a hundred years back. I appreciate it. We went a different direction. So I was actually very happy to get off. And then we meet X-23 from Logangan her character and this is jackie i forget what the
Starting point is 00:27:07 actual actress's name is but the girl that plays x23 and logan i i hesitate to say all grown up because she's still like a teenager in this um but she's an alien she's a cool looking alien too with the like orange kind of wings on her eyes um and she appears to be souls padawan the jedi have all have the prisoners already the ones that escaped and they're able to find out like yeah osha was trying to save the one and he he betrayed her and everything he wants to go to carlack where she let crash landed to find her himself and he convinces vernestra to let him go with a small team this scene was a little like obi-wan-esque in that he's like let me go to
Starting point is 00:27:45 carlack and she's like no and he's like please and she's like okay small team he's like well that didn't take much convincing did it oh god we're gonna get a lot of that in this show i think on a 30 minute young adult teen drama show i think they're gonna have a lot of conversations like that where they show like i don't want to let you, but we don't have the time for an argument on this show. Oh, she's guilty, but it was her twin. Her twin's dead. No, it was her twin. Okay, I believe you.
Starting point is 00:28:12 It's like. That was tough in episode two. And she really just doesn't believe, doesn't believe, doesn't believe. And Sol's like, I believe. And she's like, well, if you say so. Come on. I don't know if I'm just getting easier in my old age or there's something different about this, this series so far, but I'm,
Starting point is 00:28:29 I'm just going to stop trying to find it. It's like you said, we're at star Wars. If that's the most, is that the least believable thing? But then I come back to the bombs being dropped in last Jedi and how it all went down in the gravity. I'm not even getting it. But the bombs had propellers. They shot down. Just keep going, Bob. Keep going, Bob.
Starting point is 00:28:46 We're going to keep moving on. We're just going to keep going. We're going to push through that. I'm in the light right now. I'm in the light. I'm in the light. Don't bring me to the dark side again. But it does play to the point we made earlier
Starting point is 00:28:58 where I think everyone would enjoy the show more if they grade it on a curve almost. Grade it on a young adult scale i think it will give all the listeners out there a little bit more enjoyment don't compare this to andor compare it to the prequels i mean in that case i think i'm my new favorite prequel um so sol jackie and yord plan their descent this this one scene it was my least favorite scene in both episodes when they walk in on a shirtless jacked yord and they play it like oh like this is the scene for young girls to be like look at him she's like uh would you put a shirt on and like maybe i'm a hypocrite because i like the scene in the last jedi where they force connect
Starting point is 00:29:43 and kylo ren is sitting there all fucking kylo bulky and i think that's funny but this version of it i was just like oh i'm gonna pretend that scene didn't happen move on i could not you know what maybe it blows up in my face i could not be more out of this you're the guy i fucking come out of i think i imagine you're supposed to not like him and maybe like he's gonna be the guy you're the guy i fucking i think i imagine you're supposed to not like him and maybe like he's gonna be the guy you're like oh man he was a good guy all along fuck you or saul is my guy i and listen if saul ends up being like sith then i guess i'm a sith fucking fan i don't know what to tell you i love them in squid games and i love them in this that dude just has a face that just puts your soul at ease i saw a lot of comparisons puts your soul
Starting point is 00:30:25 at ease oh look at that that's how they probably named it like we need a guy who'll put everyone's soul at ease i saw a lot of people comparing him to a certain older jedi played by liam neeson back in the day but i was gonna say that's who he reminded me of and i saw people shitting on his performance too because they were like he can't even even speak English. And it's like, but like he's speaking the exact stoic lines that Liam Neeson spoke as Qui-Gon. Like it was so similar to me. There was absolutely no issue for me with the language barrier, because I'm like, that's how the fucking Jedi of the prequel talked in that crazy, stoic, monotone voice. He was perfect perfect for me he might be my favorite character in the show as well bob if i don't know where you saw these people but if they're on
Starting point is 00:31:10 twitter you send them to me and i'm gonna just dm them just lewd shit they get banned from the platform i don't care any more stone i think they were the ones that were like he's like maybe the worst part of the show and rolling stone at this point. I mean, I guess I'll write that snail mail. Great, great magazine back in the day. Don't get me wrong. And that some of those covers put me, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:34 maybe from a boy to a man, but fuck like what are we doing here? Rolling Stone. So OSHA sees this like young girl walking away from her in the ship, the crash landed ship. It's a young version of her sister, May. And she's brought to like Brendock. She's like, Brendak looks around i assume it's their home um she says you're with me
Starting point is 00:31:50 i'm with you always together but born as two so she has this thing that they remember from childhood osha says to may did you kill indara and she says yes and i will kill them all osha wakes up she's like what the fuck it's all like she she doesn't even know if may is alive at this point she thinks her sister's been dead since childhood um and then soul explains their backstory to his padawan sorry faith is like going gremlin mode over there soul explains the backstory it's kane and the undertaker it's literally kane and the undert. One burnt down the house. The whole family is dead.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Whatever. You think the brothers not survived, but the, oh my God, they did survive. May is Kane. Osha is the Undertaker. Jackie and Yord immediately. And I mean, immediately know what's up. They're like, oh, she had a twin. So it must've been her twin.
Starting point is 00:32:45 And so the one who is telling the story is like, nah, couldn't have been the twin die it's like no but your padawan saw through it right away dude this is why the jedi failed you guys are idiots i love my guy soul he still has like some cobwebs on the brain the jedi just have a thin layer of liquid on their brain and it just allows them not to see the most obvious thing i mean the emperor came back 17 times on their asses they just can't fucking figure that guy out he's an old man with like not nearly the amount of power of all of them combined so that's a tough look for us i have to also admit so like when they're doing the twin thing and there was like it almost looked like snow right it might have been ash coming down from the fire but it looks like snow bob i got true detective whatever this last season was vibes from it jody foster night so fucking angry i blocked that show out of my head i was so mad i was i was like i think i'm out on acolyte just
Starting point is 00:33:38 reminded me of true detective i didn't hate that show but you know it is astonishing how quickly it's out of my head. I, I liked the beginning of it when I thought there was a mystery. And then by the end, like there's nothing here. And I watched, I watched it the last three episodes and be like, they're not going to give me anything that I want. And they basically didn't. Oh, I hate that show. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Moving on this show better than the last season of the true detective. So good work on we're starting. We got baby steps here in the star wars galaxy they corner osha on the edge of a cliff and she does the classic oh falls off the edge and soul saves her and she's all like horizontal and when she is like maze alive immediately he goes i believe you and if i were jackie or yord were five minutes ago he was denying the shit out of me on the ship. I'd be like,
Starting point is 00:34:26 what the fuck? Just cause she said it just cause she had a vision just cause she crash landed. She's probably got a concussion. She doesn't even know what she's talking about. And you're believing her over us, your students. I would be pissed about that.
Starting point is 00:34:37 But the end of the episode, pretty bad-ass. And if I say so myself, pretty fucking metal may walks up to this shadowy figure and he's talking in sith talk he is straight up oh like mean mean words coming out of this guy's mouth he says uh the jedi live in a dream a dream they believe everyone shares and he's talking about killing with weapons and blah blah not killing weapon. He says an acolyte kills without a weapon. An acolyte kills the dream. Boom.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Badass line to end the first episode. And in a mystery show, a great cliffhanger for like, well, what the fuck? And people are going to roll their eyes when I say this. I know people are going to roll their eyes. But when I see this shadowy figure in the mask, the pictures, the high quality pictures, it almost looks like he's got teeth on the mask it looks creepy i think this would be a fucking cool show to introduce the knights of ren and do a real origin story for it and i know people roll their eyes because we wanted that in the force awakens we didn't get it we wanted in the last jedi we didn't get it we wanted it in
Starting point is 00:35:38 rise of skywalker we didn't get it so now it's like oh yeah i'm sure they'll explain the knights of ren in this one but like maybe they could show a slight difference in this between the Knights of Ren and the Sith. And this show can be about how the Sith defeated the Knights of Ren or became something. And then the Knights of Ren, you know, 150, 200 years later, had to come up with Kylo or something like that. I don't know. I don't think this is going to be a night of ren but it's just a fun fan theory i had as the casual star wars fan of the group and i'm going to speak to all my fellow casuals out there don't worry guys barely knew what robbie was talking about i know the the knights of ren are a thing i thought they were a thing that kylo ren started up turns out they were kind of like maybe the another faction of the dark side i think so is that fair to say we i don't i think we know stuff from maybe like
Starting point is 00:36:29 there's comic books or something but when they write comics and say that they're canon sometimes they'll just do a movie or a tv show or an animated thing and be like it's not canon anymore retconned gotcha uh like you said though if if the actual if acolyte was replaced with a different word that was much more and this was a more mainstream show that's something you could put on twitter you know kill the dream like that is that that's probably like when that's probably what they say to you at the end of the first meeting where they're like you're like all right now listen you have to like fill out the form and give us you know spend give us a 250 check and they're like we killed the dream and you're like fucking on, spend, give us a $250 check. And they're like, we killed the dream.
Starting point is 00:37:05 And you're like, fuck it, I'm in. Like, that is such a good way to just get that person's membership money. I might start using that for something. I'm trying to think, like, what do my kids do? AJ's and Boy Scouts be like, we're here to kill the dream. Let me tell everyone about the PFL, the Professional Fighters League. The second half of the PFL regular season kicks off Thursday, June 13th, live from the Mohegan Sun in Connecticut.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Myself and Big Ev will be there, I believe. As of right now, we are going to be in the building next Thursday, June 13th. You've got Valentin Moldovsky versus Linton Vassell. They meet in their trilogy match. Dangerous Dakota Decheva takes on chelsea hackett in a clash of women's flyweights don't miss the action thursday june 13th at 9 p.m eastern on espn and espn plus it's awesome pfl doing wednesday sometimes thursday events are great because you don't have any other fights on that night so it's only the pfl don't miss the action again thursday
Starting point is 00:38:03 june 13th 9 p.m. Eastern ESPN and ESPN plus. And for those looking to attend in person, tickets are available on Ticketmaster. Tickets are pretty cheap. I think you can get tickets for this up to the time the fights pretty much start again. Tune in on Thursday, June 13th, 9 p.m. Eastern ESPN and ESPN plus. Shout out to the PFL. And now episode two, we could get right into episode two.
Starting point is 00:38:28 I was glad that they did a two episode premiere as well. I think we would have been not underwhelmed with just the first, but maybe a little bit. I think we would have had less of this kind of mindset of like, oh, shit, this is interesting. Let's see where the mystery goes. And more of a skepticism. Do you agree? We would have had a feeling of whelming that's what we have we would have been overwhelmed we would not have been underwhelmed we would have been right whelmed and again if it had been if it had started the way andrew started i probably would be like fuck i think i'm out on this but that gave me enough like it's also the mystery too it's it's a good
Starting point is 00:39:04 mystery so far in terms of just a mystery show and i'm sure there's people who don't like the whole twin twist i guess for those of us that it wasn't twitch floor bob was like yeah i fucking could have told you that from the jump it was a little different i know i know for a fact they're gonna pull the twin double switch on me at some point and my radar will not be up for that moment now it's a bit up ever since i learned there is was a twin i know i'm gonna fall for the old twin gag when it's the biggest moment i fucking know i'm so mad i'm pretty mad about it um so we begin this episode on a planet called
Starting point is 00:39:36 olega at a local jedi temple i also like the idea of a local jedi temple like they have little like embassies or whatever on different planets may gets in shockingly easily with the help of a local jedi temple like they have little like embassies or whatever on different planets may gets in shockingly easily with the help of a little kid like a little kid is basically like hey look over here and may just walks into the jedi temple that i was like okay another one words when you see issues like that in the jedi in these shows it's not a plot hole you can't be like they suck because it's like yeah no duh that's the't be like, they suck because it's like, yeah, no, duh. That's the point. They failed in the end. So it's like, but why'd she get in so easy? It's a hundred years.
Starting point is 00:40:10 They were surviving for a hundred years before the Phantom Menace with security like that. They didn't have any ring doorbell. Like they had a ring doorbell. It wasn't working. I don't know. I see that now. I'm like, ugh. I mean, it's like, if you want to like, and granted, it's different where it's a Jedi
Starting point is 00:40:23 temple versus like a church. But if you wanted to like, and granted, it's different where it's a Jedi temple versus like a church. But if you wanted to rob a church, you probably could because it'd be like, you should never lock your doors to the church. The heart of God is open for everyone and we cannot turn anyone away. And then someone was like, I want to go rob that church and be like, I'm going to go rob that. You know, maybe actually if I need a few bucks, I know where I can get a few bucks. They pass that basket around. Exactly. So I can't even get even get that never even crossed my mind i wasn't even upset about that at all she approaches master torben who is uh from game of thrones actually uh joffrey's younger
Starting point is 00:40:56 brother i believe tommen oh shit really it's tommen i think it's tommen with a with a bad beard in the words of uh mg, you got a weird beard. I think he said that to Eminem. Weird beard, man. As soon as I saw this guy, I was like, he's got a weird beard. Not a great one. But she's constantly trying to get these Jedi to attack her first. She's like, attack me with all your strength.
Starting point is 00:41:17 And, you know, he's kind of just sitting there doing nothing, Doctor Strange-esque. And she's talking about unfinished business with all of them. She goes, we have unfinished business. So I think this is coming through her acolyte. I think whoever is, she's like the avatar for that guy in the black mask, I think. I think he's got a history with all of them. And she's brainwashed a little bit. Maybe a Dathomirian witch situation.
Starting point is 00:41:42 But she can't even get through to,'s she can't even attack him he's sitting there still and there's nothing she could do because he's that strong i guess with the force i thought that was another cool twist with the force where it's like i've never seen i don't know if you've seen anything like this but i personally never seen it where you just chill and meditating you just fucking can't bring it's a little like george harrison type guy yeah when you think about it force field doesn't really make sense as a word't break it's a little like george harrison type guy yeah when you think about it force field doesn't really make sense as a word but when it's the fourth field it makes perfect sense and yes this is tommen from game of thrones i had no fucking clue bob tommen's like a legit
Starting point is 00:42:16 dude you know he's the guy i know he grew up yeah yeah i i just like he grew up and he like kind of went rickety cricket on us like he's a little scarred up and beat up a little bit. And he's meditating a little because his eyes are closed. He's in 1917, too, which I didn't remember. Yeah, great movie. Great movie. Did you see that? I actually almost threw it on for a rewatch. I watched it in the theater.
Starting point is 00:42:38 It's one of those movies that is better in the theater. And it was potentially going to go on the list here for movies. You want to know what the first movie was going to go on the list here for movies you want to know what the first movie was yeah so listen to this the first movie i've had this on here for two weeks and it just happened to come up yesterday on social media in barstool something about mary have you ever seen something about mary no so i've seen uh bits and pieces of it but never the full movie i believe grandma fox put that on for the kids at one point and quickly got there like no no no no grandma this is not a fun comedy for the kids not a rom-com in my humble opinion it is much
Starting point is 00:43:12 a com-com very much i couldn't yeah i couldn't join that argument because i didn't know where i would fall on that all right we are going to watch there's something about mary when the fucking non-stop content factory of the basement closes. We do not have time right now. This looks like it's going to be good enough. But yeah, so someone on Mary 1917. I don't know if we could really do it. It's just a really good movie.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Very much highly recommend everyone out there. And another Game of Thrones guys in it, too. Robb Stark is at the end. I'm pretty sure that's right. He's the guy's brother right there. Like, oh, your brother. Yeah, great movie. See 1917 if you haven't.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Sam Mendes movie. He's the guy making the new he's making like like, oh, your brother? Yeah. Great movie. See 1917 if you haven't. Sam Mendes movie. He's the guy making the new, he's making like four Beatles biopics at the exact same time. Oh, that's good. Okay. I feel good about those now. So Osha starts to gain some trust with Jackie. She's, you know, teaching her a little bit about the ship, things that she knows about it. Sol and Yord discuss the twin theory and them working together potentially or the twins working together against
Starting point is 00:44:05 us um vernestra the green woman she's starting to believe soul but not completely there yet and may makes her way through the olega marketplace i loved this scene just seeing all of the weird like characters aliens creatures in this marketplace and this is the exact kind of scene where i was like i ever make a cameo in a star wars show that's exact kind of scene where i was like i ever make a cameo in a star wars show that's the kind of scene where i just want to walk through the background and be able to say yep that's me and canon that's ro ro bear fuck saying kio i don't know that sounds like i'm a magician or something but yeah you know what i mean i kind of feel like uh little galaxy's edge in there like the little corridors you go between. Yeah, it felt like that.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Right? Exactly. Yeah, it's a cool marketplace. And it didn't feel like the one on Navarro. It didn't feel like the one on Mos Eisley. It felt unique. Yes, agreed. 100%.
Starting point is 00:44:55 100%. And the way you just navigated all those names and places, incredible. Incredible. That's an old Star Wars fan right there there's probably three a's in some of the games uh so she meets up may meet meets up with someone named kamir who is working with her he kind of looks like ezra miller a little bit when i saw him he's got like i think he's got the beard that ezra had when he was like holding babies hostage and stuff
Starting point is 00:45:20 so i was he couldn't get that out of my head but she needs a poison to kill a jedi and he gives her this absolution poison they also have this conversation about you got to please him you got to kill without a weapon so there's this there's something i don't know if it's a religious thing it is a bingo board yeah with the acolyte where it's like you got to kill these four jedi one's got to be without a weapon one's got to be like this one's got to be like that it's like uh when you go on a bachelorette party and the bachelorette has all the stuff that she's got to do she's got a checklist yeah and i i like the the different like ways it's going about like how the fuck are they going to pull this one off so he's warning her about the wookiee already which we know there's a wookiee jedi from the trailer so he's like how are you even going to kill a wookiee oh shit the Wookiee's on her list
Starting point is 00:46:05 we're going to see a Wookiee fight kind of cool and I'm like fuck we're going to see potentially a Wookiee Jedi die that sucks oh they can't do that to us the Wookiee Jedi's got to survive this show also the Wookiee Jedi is played by the guy who played Chewbacca in the sequel trilogy that guy Eunice
Starting point is 00:46:21 Sanamato I think his name is he's like the only guy that tall and he knows how to do Wookiee mannerisms already so they're like you're our Wookiee AJ asked me the other day he had a little Chewbacca dog goes dad how do they make Chewbacca like look like Chewbacca in the movies I'm like dude they have a really tall guy and he wears a costume he's like whoa that guy must be like taller than this tree right here like the wonder wonderment of a child of a child's imagination so shout out what's his name you see i think his name is eunice sunamado he played college basketball i'm pretty sure or maybe like european basketball somewhere he's a basketball
Starting point is 00:46:54 player for sure makes sense and shout out of course peter mayhew the og and shout out our bill walton who uh passed recently and was uh said he was he offered Chewbacca did he say or he tried out for Chewbacca? He said something like that like he was in talks at least yes I don't know if he would have offered it George might have liked it or Bill but that would have been a lot but
Starting point is 00:47:17 if you could choose one right now two of them are about to die you can only save one Saul Wookiee Jedi Right now. Two of them are about to die. You can only save one. Sol. Wookiee Jedi. See, this is so tough.
Starting point is 00:47:32 I know and like Sol already. I know a little bit about him. I know nothing about this Wookiee Jedi, but I'm going with the Wookiee Jedi. Now you're my enemy, Bob. Bro, it feels like this sort of thing where, like, Rogue One watching watching k2so die on screen was the saddest one maybe because he wasn't human you're watching a robot die you it's like you feel like even i don't want to say listen wookies don't come at me for this statement but you kind of see your pet in a wookiee you know where it's like if you watch them die it's like i don't want to see that i don't know if i've ever seen a wookiee die on screen i thought i was watching chewbacca die in rise
Starting point is 00:48:08 of skywalker for two minutes that was bad but i don't you know it's just unnecessary i don't want to see ewoks die the one in return of the jedi where his buddy's poking him with a stick terrible like i don't want to see a repeat of that that was so fucked up they did it so it was almost worse not killing chewbacca is fake killing him making us like die in the theater ourselves and then bringing him back I I just can't believe I thought okay okay I thought we were on the same page with Saul clearly I did too till you cornered me like that like I feel like you cornered me on the edge of a cliff and like I fell off like OSHA, but you saved me.
Starting point is 00:48:47 I thought we were diehards. Like, Saul is my guy. He's my guy. I'm riding. Okay. Hip is everyone's guy. The droid, the cute droid is everyone's guy. I love hip 10 out of 10.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Just like, no, 14 out of 10. That's how we rate our droids. It's just like the good boys Twitter. But if you have a guy, I mean, we're going to be doing the dragon so we're gonna have our guys back so i was my guy and i'm guessing wookiee jedi is your guy i guess he is his name is kalnecki i think kalnecki yeah kalnecki is my guy i'm okay with him being my guy to be honest i i like a wookiee you better be your guy one of the first questions i asked ken jack too i was like please tell me the wookiee jedi isn't lame and he was like no he's like there's not a bunch of but he's not lame i was like all right cool
Starting point is 00:49:26 it bob if it's your guy you ride to fucking the fire of hell for that guy so you better be like you don't have to apologize no that's fine i'm a soul guy all my people just let me know if you're a soul guy i just want to know the soul army is riding on we're gonna have a better call saw like oh that's good. Yeah, we got a good thing going here, Bob. That might be a t-shirt. You're not allowed into the Saul club. You're not allowed in.
Starting point is 00:49:52 Yeah. Osha shows Saul her new tattoo. Oh, did you know what the name of his starfighter is? Oh, no. Tell me, please. The soul plane. That's a dad show. That's good.
Starting point is 00:50:04 That's really good. That's really good. That's really good. I like that. She shows him her new tattoo, which I thought was, it's a very teen drama show conversation. And they have the back and forth of like, I wasn't a good student. No, I wasn't a good teacher. Later on when I think it's, she tries to use the force at some point, I think.
Starting point is 00:50:26 And she'd like, can't completely use the force. And she's trying to get pip their dynamic and relationship. I gotta be honest. Soul and OSHA is a little bit too much like a Soka and Sabine to me in the constant. Well, maybe it was my teaching.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Well, maybe it was my being a student. And then you went off and you're not training to be a Jedi anymore. But we know by the end of the show, the big moment is going to be her finally tapping back into the force and using it in a big moment. It feels like the acolyte team should have talked to the Ahsoka team and said, oh, we have a very similar storyline with our young female character with purple hair maybe we should change it you know did you did you feel that did you like pick up on that at all i mean i feel like it's that you know there was something that was like this feels like a trope of star wars at this point so maybe i was
Starting point is 00:51:15 thinking of that as a soul guy i'm like it was an osha it was osha's fault i really like osha so is my god though so i gotta ride with him it's no, it's all her fault. So the Jedi arrive on Olega and May begins her second attack on Torben, the meditating Jedi. And he's still meditating in the exact same position he was the last time she came in there. She tries to urge Torben into confessing and fixing the past. She's like, confess to the Jedi Temple and I won't have to do this. And he's like, I've been waiting for you, May. He comes out of his meditation. He fucking does the shot willingly and he's dead.
Starting point is 00:51:50 He apologizes. He's like, I thought we were doing the right thing, which the mystery unravels a little more. What was happening on that planet the night they died? Was it a situation where Osha was saved by Sol and the Jedi and she viewed them as the saviors? Did May view them as the people that burnt it down in the first place? Did she vilify them instantly? I don't know, but interesting scene. And then, of course, like Osha finds the body.
Starting point is 00:52:15 And for a second, it's like, oh, my God, you found the body. Did you kill? Oh, my God. But thankfully, Yord was watching all along, which he should have fucking when he walked in and saw her with the dead body, he should just walked in and been like, oh, I guess I guess he's dead. He really like let it play out for dramatics. Yeah, that that was a little much. It felt a little a little much. I agree.
Starting point is 00:52:36 I have to admit, like we've Jedi, we do not think of them as Wallace by any stretch on this show. We've made that perfectly clear. After that dude, the guy's been meditating since, like, basically her sister quote-unquote died. And he wakes up and is like, I'm just gonna kill myself now that I saw you again. Sus. The Jedi are
Starting point is 00:52:57 number one on the sus list. And listen, as a Saul guy, as the leader of the Saul fucking army right now, i have to admit that there's a chance things are gonna look very dangerous down the road our guy soul might have been killing mothers children i don't think soul soul seems like he's in the he seems like he's in the dark about it maybe vernestra maybe her your seems like lord he's like a young he's the prequel jedis too he's so fucking annoying he also could be a fucking sith lord for all i know too like i'm also
Starting point is 00:53:32 have like my radar up who's the sith lord we're we're dealing with here his hair is almost too cool to be a jedi that's true that's he's almost got the michael b jordan black panther hair where you're like your hair is so cool you got to be a villain yeah exactly it's like the checklist it's a cool hair sorry dude yeah like dude those dreads they look so sweet i'm like you just can't have those as a good guy it's too cool you got to shave it off and do a fucking little ponytail thing or i guess no he's a knight now so he doesn't need that it could be jedi adjacent yeah also he gives uh later on in the episode he gives a i have a bad feeling about this line sounds so much like ewan mcgregor i missed that yeah when may when osha so in this moment they figure out the plan to send osha in as may to that kamir guy in disguise to
Starting point is 00:54:22 get a confession from him which again this, this scene, we don't have this in Star Wars a lot. We're going to send you in with a wire and get a confession out of you. But in a Star Wars murder mystery, it's like, oh shit, that really works. It makes sense to have a little break scene like this. And he has a good delivery too when he's buying into it at first, but then gets real close to her and he goes, you look just like her. It's like but the jedi swarm and everything that's when yord gave his i have a bad feeling about this line i think it's the actor that plays yord was getting a lot of shit on twitter this week for he had a line where he was like well how many people did attican kill when he blew up the death star everyone was like who who blew up the death star people went crazy but it's like bro was it a joke no he was serious
Starting point is 00:55:09 but do we expect everyone to know about stuff like alec guinness hated star wars shit on it every opportunity he got until he made money and then he was like oh i don't know maybe they were good like plenty of people involved in Star Wars aren't diehard. I mean, how about Harrison Ford? They're like, hey, were you a force ghost in Rise of Skywalker? He goes, I don't fucking know what a force ghost is. It's like, you don't need to be a diehard. I would like you to be like, I like it more when the people are so invested and so in
Starting point is 00:55:40 love with the story that they know everything about it. But like, come on, guys, we're going to give this guy shit. He said, I can blow up the star. You know, he it but like come on guys we're gonna give this guy shit because he said ak and blew up the star you know he meant luke come on i would be more i yeah no i'm actually i'm fine with it i'm actually i would be more i get more worried when people who are like creatively in charge of the directors and stuff aren't fans and we usually find out because usually they make steaming piles of shit but if they make masterpieces and they're like yeah i don't know man i'm going to my next masterpieces and they're like, yeah, I don't know, man. I'm going to my next project.
Starting point is 00:56:06 I just wanted to check. That's fine. I don't give, I really don't care. It's like, just make good stuff. That's all I care about. We are not, we are beggars cannot be choosers when it comes to Star Wars. And we're the fucking Jawas just sorting through parts, looking for some good shows these days. And I'm very happy with what we found so far.
Starting point is 00:56:22 I'm not so sure that the team behind Endor are like diehard Star Wars fans. I'm pretty sure they were open about being like, yeah, we're not like referencing any of that shit because we don't really know much about it. We're just going to be in our corner of the galaxy doing like a political thriller. Sometimes that's what you need. Sometimes you need to set eyes that aren't too far into the woods to see the trees um so you have a feloni you can have a feloni be like all right now we have to do this here this here this there so that it makes sense for the whole world galaxy building but other than that yeah like some and i do yeah i definitely think there's a case you made that to have more of those outsider voices is better
Starting point is 00:56:58 um so soul confronts may in an alley and they start to fight without weapons another martial arts style fight. Very cool, too, because you could see how much more powerful and strong with the force Sol is right away. I wrote he's 10-8-ing her. And for those that don't watch boxing or MMA, you know, every round is scored 10-9. That's how you score. The winner gets a 10. The loser gets a 9.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Unless it was pretty dominant. And then you're like, I think it was a 10-8. Like, I'm pretty sure it was pretty heavily in Soul's favor. This one is a 10-8 for me. 10-8 round out in the alley. Good fight scene. Another one where some people have been shitting on Disney Plus fight choreography for looking slow. And there are definitely moments of it in Boba Fett, in Ahsoka.
Starting point is 00:57:38 There's a moment here or there. It's not John Wick fast, but I don't find it too slow, especially in this scene. Like I thought this was a cool fight scene the whole time. I was like, cool, choreographic, cool,
Starting point is 00:57:50 cool choreography. It's cool. It's not too long. And I, I, I like seeing guys use the force and you're going to mix in some new powers or powers we know about, but use them in a different way.
Starting point is 00:58:01 It's fucking up. This is a fun show so far. Um, it is sorry. I just got a text and I was terrified that it was breaking the way. It's fucking up. This is a fun show so far. It is. Sorry, I just got a text and I was terrified that it was breaking the record news. It's not. It's not.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Poirier busted his ribs and tore his ACL after the fight from Mokachev. So, so far, no McGregor news as we record this. It'll probably be, it'll probably come out
Starting point is 00:58:21 like the second we hit stop recording. Anyway, when May gets away, May gets with a very batman smoke pellet hits the ground and everyone's like where'd she go whoa dust what the fuck that was weird right that wasn't weird i was like what the fuck's going on okay yeah it was just yet i need goggles or something so they can see through that um but when she gets away she grant theft auto is speeder pretty much, get out of the front seat and hops in the driver's side. Osha is like, has a gun to her, set on stun, and she shoots, but I think she missed on purpose, right? That face that she made was almost like, I'm going to let you get away because you're my sister and I can't believe you're alive. But, you know, they both had the internal struggle
Starting point is 00:59:06 because also May thought Osha was dead, which I didn't realize. I was under the impression the first two episodes that like, oh, May burnt down the house and she's evil. I'm sure she tried to kill Osha and, you know, she's still out there somewhere. No, they both were like, oh my God, my twin sister's alive. And they were like delighted by that clearly.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Yeah, I think there's two things at play here either osha didn't want to shoot her sister or this is osha revealing herself as a future stormtrooper because that was the worst shot like that all the time and we just live with being like oh that's a stormtrooper zane yeah that that was it was a little bit of uh have you seen league of their own oh yeah yeah softball at the end yeah so it's like did she do that on purpose or did she there's no crying in the jedi order and then the episode ends with them going to come here and or may go on a come here and him being like listen found the Wookiee Jedi, I can get you out there. We go to K'far and then you see Kelneki's house. Like there are people walking up on it and they're like, oh, I'm sure we could get a power converter or something here.
Starting point is 01:00:15 And then the Wookiee Jedi just walks up and he's living his life on K'far. I don't know why he's not on Kashyyyk with the rest of them. Maybe they just branch out. Again, I appreciate where it's like, we don't just have the one Wookiee planet. We can branch out. I appreciate that. I also appreciate that he's like, I'm going to use the Force to take your weapons, but I'm also going to use the Wookiee brute strength to destroy them.
Starting point is 01:00:37 I like that we got both sides of the Wookiee Jedi. And listen, I'm a solo guy. I appreciate him. I'm not anti him. That's your guy, not mine. So I'm very excited to see what him I'm not anti him that's your guy not mine so I'm very excited to see what he has up his sleeve for us I wonder what the dynamics of a Wookiee Jedi is as well
Starting point is 01:00:51 like how do the rest of the Wookiees view him are they like so proud like oh my god I can't believe one of our own is a Jedi or are they kind of like yeah fucking know it all like why aren't you on Kashyyyk with the rest of us like fighting, fighting our wars, our battles? That is a very good question, Bob.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Yeah, I'm interested to see how that all shakes. I hope we get, like, an answer to that. I hope we get a lot more on Kel Naki, especially being he's my guy. Oh, question. What did you think of the High Republic Jedi rogues? I saw some people saying they looked cheap. I actually liked them. Like, the gold and white.
Starting point is 01:01:30 I liked that it felt like a different time period so yeah it got me there i was like they're cool to me and that almost um like you said it sometimes feels like a video game like my first exposure to different star wars time periods was like watching my brother play the old republic or watching someone play the old republic on youtube or something like that, or playing it myself, that feels like that in that, you know, when you give everyone across the board, a new wardrobe, new slate, new look feels video gaming.
Starting point is 01:01:54 And I like that about it. Cause some of my favorite star Wars memories ever from star Wars video games. So that is the first two episodes. Again, like we've talked about for the last hour, plus we were pro the acolyte, at least through two episodes, we're've talked about for the last hour plus we were pro the acolyte at least through two episodes we're pretty happy with what we're getting well i don't even
Starting point is 01:02:11 know i'm gonna say cautiously optimistic because again there are some parts of that trailer i'm like i feel like i'm not gonna like that show as much as i like this show that we just watched but yeah cautiously optimistic oh you can ask for it. I just looked it up. Eight episodes instead of 10. That's a good sign. And again, let's not, we don't have to go to 59 minutes. So even so, we had like 44, I think a 30. I thought these were good length. Yeah, both of them actually felt like when the credits hit, I was ready for them to hit, but it wasn't like,
Starting point is 01:02:38 oh, I need more now or that was too long. Both episodes, that was one thing that I feel like we complain a lot about length, either we need more or make it a little shorter for us they nailed that yeah i think 35 is like my perfect spot that i found so far so i think i hit skip three times in the intro too it's like you have the like disney plus commercial you have the previously on and then you have i didn't even watch the like how is the intro like the theme or whatever is there really much to it no it's just the title card so they it shows the acolyte and then the o kind of goes like that like a venn diagram to i think because the twins or something like that ah i do and i do think i hope i'm gonna say this until it finally happens i hope we learn at some
Starting point is 01:03:20 point like these twins are gonna be like the force where it's like you have the good side with the jedi the other one was raised by the sith or whatever and it's like the gray middle is kind of where life should be and that's the way life kind of is i also like the force connection stuff like i like when two people are linked with the force luke and leia obviously being the first two twins linked with the force but i really enjoy the concept of a force dyad which was introduced in the sequel trilogy. I know people don't like that. The idea that these two people are somehow linked through the force. And if one gets stronger, the other is getting a little stronger and they're just going to keep balancing
Starting point is 01:03:54 and matching each other. I think that's a cool theory and concept in the Star Wars universe to happen a few times over the course of hundreds or thousands of years. If they're a version of that i think it would be cool my one concern is the the guy in the mask who is like the acolyte kills dreams whatever he's gonna have to be a reveal at some point i think and a lot of the star wars reveals of people in masks aren't always great we got one in ahsoka and the reveal was that he was actually a fart the whole time so it's like they bet remember that you did you forget that remember when they they stab him and oh yeah he's a green fart so like like you said cautiously optimistic because they have a lot of like unveiling to do where it's like we don't know what's behind the curtain but something's already
Starting point is 01:04:42 behind it and we're gonna have to just be happy with whatever's behind it. Yeah. Hopefully it's a murder mystery. It's good. Even if the Star Wars kind of peters out, right? Yeah. All right. That was the acolyte episodes one and two recap.
Starting point is 01:04:54 We'll be back for the acolyte next week. House of the Dragon after that. Also, I just looked into the House of the Dragon premiere night. We're going to be flying to Chicago for the dozen. So we'll be together for that. We'll have to watch it in Chicago. I know. I'm going out later because we have a bye.
Starting point is 01:05:12 You're going Monday? Maybe Tuesday. Okay, good. Sunday. I had to change my flight because I realized my flight was going to cut into Game of Thrones time. I'm changing it now. Perfect. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:05:23 So, yeah, we'll be ready to rock. I don't even know. I don't think Kevin's in the tournament, is he? I don't think so, no. He went winless. I don't think that's going to get you in the tournament. Yeah, consult. That was the acolyte, though.
Starting point is 01:05:37 Hashtag for this week is White Boy Yoda. Hashtag White Boy Yoda. Clemens. Hashtag White Boy Yoda. Yes, White Boy Yoda I am.

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