My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 358 - THE ACOLYTE EPISODE 3

Episode Date: June 12, 2024

Robbie and Clem recap and review Episode 3 of #TheAcolyte - which focuses on Osha/Mae's backstory in a flashback story! We see witches, Jedi, spying and conniving, Force magic, and more....but did the Basement Boys enjoy it?! Listen to find out! Gametime: Download the Gametime app or go to https://gametime.co, enter your email, and redeem code MMB for $20 off your first purchase (terms apply). #StarWars **************************************** My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike! Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello, and welcome to My Mom's Basement, presented by Barstool Sports. I am your host, Jedi Master Fox, we could call me this week. I got the robes on, so I feel like I could throw myself a master title. And along with me is my Padawan Clem. I say that because you're in a hoodie this week. Yeah, I'll throw the hood on for you. And let's be honest. I can't even say the emperor's full name.

So I'm a Padawan. I'm still learning the ways of the force. So there we go. There you go. Oh, there you go. You look like you could be like you're like a high republic Padawan. It's like, oh, they wore hoods back then. Yes.

Or someone like at Hoth who's like manning a battle station. We got to get you just that one braid. Just, you know, come down Padawan style. Imagine that. I shave the head and I just have one long braid. It's like having like a rat tail. Yeah, or a coke pinky finger. It's like all the other nails are clipped.

Shout out Carrie Fisher, yeah. Yeah, shout out. We are here to recap The Acolyte Episode 3. The episode title was Destiny. Did you notice anything about the episode title, the little thing they're doing there, Clem? So I didn't even know that was the name of the episode, so I was about to say, so I had no clue. So Episode 1 was titled Lost Slash Found.

Episode 2 was Revenge Slash Justice. But but episode three because the twins are together is just titled destiny all right i appreciate those fun little quirks you know i like little creative things like that so i can get down with that i do as well so i saw that i was like all right they're playing with it and it's also directed by a south korean director named uh koganada and he made an a24 movie in 2021 called after yang that people loved i didn't see it it was uh colin farrell starred in it he's also making a movie that comes out next year with colin farrell and margot robbie so i feel like this is a name that you're going to start hearing more often he's a colin farrell guy huh i honestly didn't know colin feller was still doing stuff good for him good for uh this director i'm more of a before yang guy personally see that's

that's good colin farrell's got the penguin coming out in september that's right announced that that's actually coming out which is going to be good for the basement because i feel like september is kind of like we thought it was going to be our dead zone with all the shows that we're recapping this summer coming to an end and marvel's like yep we're good with Deadpool we're going with that essentially so we're gonna be scraping by a little bit so okay I can live with that and you know Bob when it comes to Batman material Bob's gonna be geeking out this is it'll be like Star Wars before the sequel trilogy kind of like flattened you out a little bit it's gonna be just hype yeah i'm really and like we mentioned when we talked about the trailer it just looks like the

sopranos so they're like it's the penguin but he's tony soprano what's not to love about that i'm very in on that uh but this episode is all backstory it takes place 16 years prior to the events of episodes one and two we knew this going in ken jack gave us the heads up like hey guys i saw the first four screeners episode three is probably the weakest because it focuses on flashbacks a lot of child actors or maybe not a lot one that's playing two roles but uh it's i think it is the weakest of the three so far i didn't love it i thought it was okay There was some interesting lore stuff and in-universe stuff where I was like, okay, that's like a cool thing to dive into. But they kind of like half dove into everything.

It was a flashback reveal episode that didn't reveal anything really. So it's like I'm a little afraid already that this is one of two flashback episodes and we're going to get an entire flashback episode from May's perspective. And I wonder if that's going to be the next episode or down the road. I feel like we might get a little more present day and then go back and you're going to keep filling in the puzzle pieces about that night along with whatever's going on in present day. Yeah, I'll just say this. I think if they had done the three

episode debut like they did with andor and this was like the last thing we saw i think i would have had a bad taste in my mouth and all the good from the first two episodes that we talked about on our last episode would have probably been like i wouldn't say god but watered down a little bit i think there would have been a i can sense there's some more gripes uh today than there were last week so definitely did you hate it though like i didn't i didn't hate it actively i was just kind of like i don't know a little bored by it i think it was the longest of the three and i don't know if we needed to spend like an entire episode with the flashback like maybe i would have liked bits and pieces of it sprinkled throughout yeah whatever you're me i always like seeing the jedi the the older stuffled throughout yeah whenever you're me i always like

seeing the jedi the the older stuff is always fun and you're kind of like learning and then but like when those when the witches are doing their thing i'm like i don't know if it's something i don't know about and all the other like diehard star wars people who've seen all the cartoons and everything are like oh yeah this is the fucking uh night sisters or whatever or if it's just completely new it sounds like it's new uh yeah not uh not great i'm also realizing that i'm half because we're recording in the morning i'm almost like this is the may side of me you know the dark side yeah the ocean side i just have the sun cutting me in half here so we're going to turn the blinds up so we don't have i don't want evil i don't want evil coming out during this i don't know what that guy's capable

of saying on a podcast. That's not the white boy Yoda version of Clem. That's like the white boy Vader version. Yeah, it was just, I don't know. I also feel like I've come to a realization maybe over the past couple weeks talking about this show, talking about this show. I did Lights, Camera, Barstool, talked about it with clemmer and ken jack and robbie gucciman i've come to this realization that not all star wars is special anymore and like it used to be that way where like when they started making the force awakens the energy from the behind the scenes footage was like we're making a star wars movie

like can you fucking believe we're making Star Wars right now? I don't know if everyone has that perspective coming at it now that we have television shows, this, that, the next thing, animated this, whatever. I think it's okay that not all Star Wars is special anymore. Like, I have said it before. I'll say it again. I would rather have a bunch of average star wars products than no star wars products like new stuff new shows and stuff going forward i would rather than be average than not exist at all i like expanding the universe and having more options

i feel like sometimes they swing and miss sometimes you get the vader scene in rogue one or the luthen i sleep with ghosts ran in Andor or you get Baby Yoda who is friggin he's brought Star Wars fans together again I understand the people that still want Star Wars to be special and would rather know products than average products like either you bring me like your a-game and you bring me nothing it's just it's a given poll and I feel like you're either on one side of the fence or the other and i don't know if you're ever going to be able to get someone from one side of the fence to the other you know what i'm saying yeah no you're right you're right and i saw i think

i saw a comment about this on reddit once where it was like it's crazy to it was the person was saying that they're probably a little older and they were saying it's crazy to me that like i would drive two towns away first for the chance to get like a star wars collectible glass and then telling that kid you know down the road there's gonna be star wars stuff on your tv that people be like nah i'm good i don't want to watch it but i think it's it's a twofold thing i think one let's be honest there have been like even the biggest fucking star wars diet has to admit there's just been bumps in the road along the way whether you've talked prequel, sequel, like solo. We talk, you know, different shows that have been on Disney+.

If you think everything's a 10, God bless you. You're going to think everything's a 10. But I think there have been hiccups. So it's like along the way, it's like they basically tarnished. I don't want to say tarnished, but you weren't going to get home runs every single time after maybe the original trilogy. And then like the world we live in now, there's just so much shit. It's like,

you're just not going to be like star Wars day one, let's rock along with, you know, obviously the bumps in the road. So at this point it's like, yeah, take your cuts, take your swings to be out,

to be fully honest, I probably wouldn't be watching as much stuff if we didn't have a full blown podcast about this stuff. And then I, I would probably go in after people said, Hey, is a good one check it out uh i probably watched the mandalorian on my own without waiting first but maybe and or or even this one especially if you see the trailer like yeah i don't know if this one's really for me guys so that that is a fair point you make robbie i i like the way you think about that and it's tough

too because i appreciate the 9 p.m tuesday night drop but i don't know if the acolyte is like the appointment television one where you want to like you know i'm saying we're like the mandalorian people would be watching that the second it came out like things are going to be spoiled we have to watch it this one i think i watched it maybe 930 or 945. Like I'm still watching it the night it comes out pretty close to release date, but there's not yet part of me where like, this is appointment sit down at exactly 859 and start refreshing your Disney plus. Cause you need to get to the next episode. Now, Ken Jack has said episode four is pretty good. And he's like the cliffhanger at the end of episode four is fantastic.

He says after next week's episode, a lot of people are going to be like more in on the mystery and everything, which I love. I'm kind of still in on the mystery itself because we didn't get much paid off in this episode. Like they gave us little nuggets here and there. But I mean, at the end of episode two, I was like excited to see my guy Kel Naka fuck up, you know, the scavengers or whatever. None of it. Not even just even a little hint at the end of this episode. So it's like flashback episodes are always tough in any show. We talk about the flashback to think all the time. You got to really nail them.

And if they're just okay, they feel like they're dragging the show a little bit. Yeah. And you said it. You can't just tickle our balls with a Jedi Wookiee and then be like, oh, yeah. And now you're not getting him in the next episode because then you get blue balls, which are a real thing. I still can't believe that people at this company say blue balls are not a real thing. God bless them. That means they never have blue balls.

As a one-time blue ball survivor, they are real. Just once. Thankfully, once. I'll never go through that again. If I ever have blue balls again, you will never see me. Cause I will be dead. That's a problem. Yeah. I mean,

they gave us Kelnock in this episode, but he was just fixing a ship. That was it. Yeah. We weren't getting bad-ass come knock a fight in the bad guys that we saw, you know, they raking guns. Yeah.

But you know what? Like I have to admit at the same point, if they don't give us that scene, we just hear this Wookiee Jedi and that's it. It did kind of like get the flutters going so ken jack hopefully episode four we're getting that's you know the continuation of that scene and some cool shit my guy saw was in the episode though that's all i know he yeah he was pretty good in the episode he got a nice haircut in the episode in the flashback do you

think kel naka is going to go straight for the arm rip or do you think that's a chewbacca thing is that some chewbacca's like his signature move or is that like a wookiees that's how they fight they all got it in the bag it's like uh you know ufc it's like everyone can throw the ankle lock submission everyone can ground a pound but just a different like chewbacca that's probably his go-to move when you're able to you know wield the force i'm sure there's different ways but that would be sweet if we got an arm rip. I would geek out about an arm rip. That'd be really good. And this makes me want to, like, a UFC-style Star Wars fighting game where actually Revenge of the Sith, the, like, you know, video game they made to follow the storyline of the movie,

it had a minigame mode that was like a side-scroller Mortal Kombat Street Fighter-style, like, fighting game. And you could just select Jedii it was fucking awesome me and my cousin kenny we played that hours worth of that and lego star wars of course i remember like unlocking grievous in the first lego star wars he was so many coins so we just fucking played free play over and over and over again great memories from that summer and also the new star wars video game star wars outlaws comes out in fucking 10 weeks clem this game i thought this was like 2026 2027 it comes out at the end of august it's star wars gta like they just stole the gta cop system for stormtroopers they're putting atats in game i'm literally on the market for a ps5 right now

i'm just checking sales check i'm probably gonna buy one this week seriously is it playstation exclusive no but people are saying if you go next gen the ps5 is apparently much better than the xbox series x i think it's called and it has the the spider-man games so i want the spider-man ones too hey come on pal i got the ps5 here come on the orders are good son Sony's still cranking out hits. So we'd be happy to have you, Bob. I had no idea this game was a thing. And I didn't know. Like, I heard people talk about it.

I'm like, what the fuck? And then you said GTA Star Wars. I go, now that's something I would be very interested in. I'll probably still wait for the reviews just in case. Is it EA? Is it EA? No, it's Ubisoft. Okay, I'll fuck with Ubisoft, actually.

I would play. You ever play Rayman growing up? No, I don't think so. It's kind of like a side-scroller. AJ somehow got a YouTube clip, and he plays it, and it's like an older game from the 90s side-scroller. It is so much fucking fun. So many just intricacies.

I'm like, this is just a really well-made game. So Ubisoft, I was like, oh, shit. I've never known anything about them they crank out it so if it's not ea and they're going to try to rob you of all the micro transactions i'm excited i'll still wait for your view but you kind of what you're getting at before it was there was a time where like star wars a star wars video game came out everyone was excited and then i do think they kind of did flood the market and so you have some hits you have some big misses and then it's like just not special anymore you don't know what's going to be good what's not going to be good and i do think like the shows and the movies kind of mirrored the video games in that sense right yeah it's like ea the ea license fucked

the video games because they had the exclusive rights for like 10 years and they didn't really do much with it i think they put out two Battlefront games. Maybe that's it. And since we've gotten the Fallen Order games, which people absolutely love. I haven't played the second one of that, so that'll be another PS5 purchase. The Fallen Order games, the new Outlaw games, Lego Star Wars.

Since the EA licenses run out, I feel like we're starting to get back to that. Video games are a great platform to expand this universe and try new things and try wacky things that might not work in a live action show like witch ceremonies and stuff like that. But we can get into the Acolyte. It opens on a beautiful yellow bunta tree. Mae's fucking with butterflies. Kind of fucked up. This is like the Star Wars version of like burning ants with a magnifying glass kind of the butterflies look cool they look friendly she's just like

tearing them apart what the fuck i mean psychopath obviously but what the fuck we learn we learn a lot about me this episode and it's not like you know everything was good before whatever happened those events and then she became like this evil person there's um there's clearly the good twin and the bad twin very clearly i i first i thought they were a little hummingbirds i'm like oh a little hummingbird i'm a bird guy and then they were like then i didn't know if they were butterflies and i'm like are they little mini dragons so whatever they were they were cool and fucking with them what are we doing here also speaking of birds a lot of people tell me and i've been saying it like you know you're washed when you become a bird guy, as I have become.

Folks, there's one level after bird person that makes you washed. And it's when you really get excited about different trees and plants. And I'll tell you, I've reached that part as well. I had a dogwood in my backyard that we loved. It would bloom. We go crazy. Unfortunately, a storm killed it. But it's like every time I'm at Costco now, I'm picking up some big old plants for the yard.

We got some beautiful hydrangeas coming. And I'm looking at this yellow tree. I'm like, that's a good looking tree right there. I don't know if it's evil or good, but I fuck with that tree. So the botanist, I think botanist, botanist, whatever it is, that's the final level of wash. Which, by the way, Mama got herself a uh bird camera from you for mother's day right that was yeah my mother's day present to her was your bird camera not the one from your backyard just i got i bought the same one i have to log in for it we check it but

i'll tell you what that's in where she lives down the shore the squirrels are just killing her like the squirrels come in 24 7 and they don't mind the siren. We put the siren on, we put the light on. They're just eating the bird feed. They don't care. I'm going to give you the squirrel. It's a little mix.

It's a hot mix. Birds don't have heat receptors in their mouth in terms of spices. So it's a spicy sauce. You have to wear gloves when you put it together. Cause it's one of those, you don't want to get in your eyes. It's a, you know,

what's the, what's the hot stuff, uh, hot things or whatever hot ones hot ones hot ones uh it's basically that and squirrels they're mammals they cannot fuck with the stuff we put that in mind i haven't had a squirrel problem since think it jumped up once smelt it and booked wow all right good to know i'm gonna tell a little fun you're learning on the patient today all right The tree that you're saying, I don't know if it's good or bad. It is poison because they use the poison of the Boonta tree to kill Master Torben in episode two. And also the mom or one of the moms is like very upset that they're even playing out there. I don't think that has as much to do with the tree, though. I think they just want the kids not to be seen by the jedi and stuff like that but they're discussing their ascension ceremony later in the day and they recite this like poem that they said earlier though yeah you born as one together as two watching it under the context

of knowing the episode it kind of sounds like a spell like the way they say it kind of sounds like a witch spell like something you would say as you're fucking brewing in a big pot. So that was interesting. And like I said, Mother Coral yells at them for being out there in an unsafe area because Sol is like watching from behind a tree. Mother Coral is a Zabrak like Darth Maul. She's got the horns coming out. I think it's cool to see Zabrak. They're like one of my favorite aliens to pop up because usually they're up to no good.

So usually you have to look at them like, I mean, you look like the devil. So we're going to be looking at you like you're the devil. Okay. I'm happy you said that first because in my notes here, it says, is it racist to say that mother Corolla sucks for looking like Darth Maul? I figure this species is probably, you know, prevalent, but you've seen them before. And I imagine Devil horns they're usually

Into some shit I'm not saying they can't be Jedi I'm not saying they can't just be normal nice Regular people I'm just saying She was instantly thrown on the For better or worse I don't want to get cancelled here I don't want Barstool to get in trouble front page Of the fucking New York Times Saying the basement boys were calling

Kirill bad people just because they had devil eyes. I mean, I watched The Phantom Menace. That dude was a the guy had fucking a black smile. I've never even seen a black smile before. The only person that looks like the devil that we like in this podcast is Nightcrawler. Yes, we fuck with Nightcrawler

big time. He has swords too. It's like the double, two, three of them. It doesn't make a positive. I don't get it. He has swords, too. It's like the double. Oh, yeah. Three of them. It doesn't make a positive. I don't get it. Also, awesome looking planet. This, that was my biggest takeaway.

As I'm watching this thing and I'm just looking for good things to say, I'm like, this is, we need more of this. Just keep giving us new planets, different architecture, just cool shit. You don't have to do that much. You just get creative and let your mind wander. It's just'm i guess i'm just very sick of the desert planets from the past and i keep i feel like we've been keeping the momentum rolling so i'm very happy i agree i had a note that i really liked brendok the fact that it's a forest planet that doesn't really look like endor boom you like you succeeded in that you won um when they get back to the town they

ask for some spice creams i get that they're doing an ice cream thing with the kids there but spice is confusing in star wars spice is generally in star wars thought of as a drug i think like chewbacca and han were fucking walter white and jesse so i don't know why the kids are like can i have spice creams and they're like ah you should know not before the ceremony. And then their other mother comes in mother on a SIA and is like, ah, give the kids the spice creams. They're sweet kids.

They deserve the sweet treats. Obviously that's the mom. They like more. Do you? Yeah. So with spice creams, I was trying to figure out, do you think it tastes good? Or do you think it's gross?

Like, obviously it tastes good to them, but I don't know. Like I'm almost picturing like an ice cream bar, like with a popsicle, you know, in it covered in some kind of spice covered in graham cracker dust or something. Graham cracker dust. Okay. Like maybe that's what it would be a galaxy's edge, you know? Yeah, exactly. That's probably what they're going to do. They're like, we have to throw the, like, that was like number one on the to-do list for this series.

It's like, you must make something called Spice Creams so we can sell it for, you know, $15.95 at Galaxy's Edge. I'd buy it and make an Instagram food review. Fucking lemmings. It's exactly what we would do. But I, there is a chance though. I like what you're thinking. Like, we're like, oh, wow. Like, I can't believe they let the kids eat that.

It's like, these are witches. It would be like, you know, you're in like we're like oh wow like i can't believe they let the kids eat that it's like these are witches it would be like you know you're in a crack den it's like these kids are like you have these eight-year-olds just smoking cigarettes it's like yeah there's no fucking rules we've been raised by witches so this could just be like they're just drinking basically yeah maybe they're getting a little high yeah um and mother caril is very worried about the girls running away and it sounds like there's more to them than we know. Because she says, like, right up front, these girls are not normal children. So it feels like she's less worried about them running off to this tree and eating a poison plant than she is, like, people seeing them. It seems like they're hidden children.

And the twins have this force-wielding training session with their mom. They call the force the thread. This is actually one of the things about the episode I liked is seeing how a different culture would interpret the force and have a different take on it. And they're like the Jedi. I think it's the force. We realize it's the thread and it goes through all people and you could pull on the thread. You could tug on the thread. It's also clearly a setup for them using the power of two during the finale when they're

like not paying attention to their mom being like, look, you can using the power of two during the finale when they're like not paying attention to their mom being like look you can combine the power of two the power of two they're gonna like yell that in the finale it's gonna be a nice little corny moment but whatever we'll get through it um the i don't wanna i don't wanna like shit on child acting not shitting on the kid or the kids i don't know if it's real twins or just one i think it's just one uh the back and forth and them fighting and it just gave off phantom menace vibes in not the best way and there's a little bit of that throughout the episode in the twins butting heads and i understand it might be like realistic like this is probably how twins would butt heads and be annoying in that session it was just a little annoying to watch from my perspective.

Yeah. I was trying to figure out if it was just a parent of me, who's like blood pressure was rising as I saw them taking the ball from each other, elbowing each other, stop it. But I'll tell you, and I'm sure all the listeners out there that have kids will agree.

There is nothing that will piss you off more than a parent than when your kids fight. It's the opposite. When your kids get along, it honestly is like the best feeling in the world. You just watch them play. It like brings a joy in that you cannot literally, you'd have to take seven spice creams to feel that good inside. So it's great when they're playing together, but when they're just fighting, there's a

part of me, Robbie. I said this the other day at a picnic we were at. There's a part of me that I never knew I had this side of me, the yelling I can do. And all the parents are like, me too. I've never got to go to this dark place. And only my own kids can bring it out of me. So I do understand. So the fact you're agreeing with this and you are, you know, what do they call it?

A furry dad? Oh, like a dog dad. I wouldn't say furry furry i associate entourage like me and the turtle suit but i think we can all agree the child acting in this it's tough it's tough yeah it's tough i'm sure you can find actors that could nail it but it's not probably easy to do uh but it is a good dialogue. Like the writing isn't the best and the writing is just good enough to make it through. And I'm not cringing at all the lines, but there's a lot of what we talked about last week in this episode, too, where it's like, no, you can't do that, please. Well, OK, like the arguments are so surface level.

And that's part of the thing that like, I like this stuff where they're diving into lore stuff and kind of politics and how it would work with the different factions and how maybe the Jedi don't like the witches and that stuff. But everything is just scratching the surface of what you want them to get into. Like they're getting into a bunch of different stuff.

I would rather them pick maybe just like the one conflict and really dive into it and maybe get a little deep on it, but they don't fully do that. And also they plant a seed early on in the scene where Mother Kirill looks at the core or the reactor of their base in their home and it's starting to spark. And she looks at it like something's up with that.

And I think later on, something is clearly up with that. Osha doesn't want to do the Ascension ceremony. She doesn't want to be a witch. May does. They're going back and forth. Interesting how they portrayed like the evil one was the one who listened to their parents and just wanted to like do everything that they were supposed to do.

And the rebellious one is the good one. So I thought that was a cool dynamic that they kind of pushed from my point of view the jedi or evil yeah a little different also when you said like i didn't know i had this side of me i thought you were going to say like anakin was right for what he did on that jedi temple in that room with the younglings oh we're not gonna go there i thought you were going there i was like oh my god clem what would you do if i just started calling the force the thread for now on? On the show, in real life, when we're just walking? I wouldn't like it.

I wouldn't love it. The only way I will... I'll tell you right now. I would never call it the thread unless when that show comes out, I forgot the name of it, and my guy, Darth Charger, goes, Mesa gonna use the thread on you. Then I would have to use the threat for now on because like whatever the galaxy was it yeah Lego show yeah um mother on a sire makes them hold hands and she says they're special yet again she's like you you

girls are special in this world this galaxy isn't going to welcome women with abilities like you it's right on the line of being a little too heavy-handed for like we know the message you're pushing there a nice message that you're pushing but like this is star wars you got to make it a little star warsy before you put it out there i feel like but they argue again as they're getting prepped for the ascension ceremony as they're getting their hair done another arguing scene where like you could have cut this. I think this might've been the longest episode. You could have cut this one.

Yes. And then you get the ceremony itself. The witches start dancing on the edge, edge of a cliff, cool looking like the way it's shot in darkness. And there's like almost like a cloudy storm going on. The chant they're doing though, is just the,

this church ass chant where they're like the power of one the power of two the power of many it's like oh god this is so churchy it just reminds me of being in church which i personally i understand there's like religion and star wars and this kind of is one i just don't want to be reminded of being in church when i'm watching star i said cult like vibes too because you're dealing with some dark shit, and you're not a full-grown congregation of people. It feels like these people are hiding their religion from everyone more than anything. Totally.

Well, they say they were forced into hiding, and they haven't performed this ceremony since. Kind of sounds like maybe the Jedi could have been the ones or had to do something with forcing them into hiding, but they were like, we were blessed with a miracle, the miracle of life, which at this point in the episode kind of confirms, they confirm it later on to the Jedi, but it confirms that these kids were kind of like an immaculate conception. They don't have a father and they tell the Jedi that later on, but it's very interesting.

And I kind of like where they're going with that as well some people are like this breaks the lore anakin skywalker is the one and only prophecy he should be the only and it's like that i still think that was a little different they might be connecting it but like i don't think it fucking breaks anakin i think there could be more than one immaculate fucking conception it's right there in front of us guys and i can't believe no one has hit on this yet i haven't seen any comments on this it's obvious what these kids were not uh immaculate conceptions you don't know it no these twins were not miracles they're daughters of the emperor the emperor is behind all this you know i'm not gonna say the emperor is behind all this but i have a theory that i'm gonna read

later on and he's involved so we'll get that of course um but they do the chant mother anasaya puts that uh marking on may's head and right before osha is about to get it she kind of hesitates and the ceremony is interrupted by the jedi it's master andara her padawan torban who looks his appropriate his appropriate age at this point like they made him old in the last episode by just putting a beard and a scar on him that's what i was like oh that's tommy i actually i actually knew that was tommy normal like he just got like normal hair he He's got a Padawan braid. It's like, I don't know. You could have just made him Tomlin and cast someone older as him later on.

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when the Jedi arrive, the witches try to deny the existence of the children, but Kel Naka, the Wookiee Jedi can literally just see the kids. They're like, there's no children here. And Kel Naka goes, I think I see two. And like one walks kids. They're like, there's no children here. And Kel Naka goes, I think I see two.

And like one walks out and they're like, all right, can we see your sister? The other one walks out. And this is interesting. The witches are like, don't take our children. And Sol goes, the Jedi don't take children. Check out this lightsaber. Do you want to know how you get one? And it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa this girl's like six years old you could say like i don't i'm not taking this kid the

kids consenting to it you're literally showing the kids the coolest thing in the galaxy i mean like you want this come with me that it's literally i mean you could be like a kidnapper being like i didn't take the kid. They wanted the candy. Yeah. What the fuck? The only thing separating the Jedi from the dudes in the ice cream trucks out of their van is the robes. And that, you know, some of those dudes probably wear robes too. I bet those guys wear robes as well.

They may not look like the one you're wearing. Tough look for the Jedi. You can take my kids right now with like a lightsaber toy. They would be like, all right, I'll just like leave my family for you. Let alone a real one that turns on, glows, and can cut shit. Tough look. Tough look for the Jedi here. And also, obviously, the hypocrisy in them shutting down the ceremony

because they're like, you can't indoctrinate kids to your religion. Come to the Jedi. It's like you're't indoctrinate kids to your religion uh come to the jedi it's like you're literally doing the exact same thing it's spider-man meme it's it's hypocrisy i will say this a lot of my takes about the jedi from the prequels are just aging like fine wine right now and i'm starting to feel like we get we fill in all the missing equations from this show all the way to phantom menace by the end like the jedi might literally be the bad guys and everyone's us there is part of me too like as a huge star wars jedi fan where i'm like there's been too many shows at this point that are just shitting on the jedi

like every show is just like how the jedi failed how the jedi failed i'm starting to get to the point where i'm ready for i know ahmed best who played jar jar and then he played master something i forget his name and the mandalore yeah he saved baby yoda he's like my idea is just take my jedi and make him john wick he's like just make a whole movie where i just mow people down i'm starting to get to the point where i'm like i think you should green like that i want to see a jedi that's like, just make a whole movie where I just mow people down. I'm starting to get to the point where I'm like, I think you should green like that. I want to see a Jedi. That's good.

And just John Wick the whole time. Maybe the Mandalorian movie will kind of fill that void. I know he's not a Jedi, but he's going to be whipping that dark saber around. Maybe. Well, maybe in Boca Tons. Now we'll see.

But what'd you do? Yeah. Maybe y'all became that John Wick. He's just a murdering motherfucker. His little green skin just splattered. Yeah. Yeah. Um, abl became that john wick he's just a murdering motherfucker his little green skin just splattered yeah yeah um but torben is locked in a spell they kind of threaten him obviously the relationship is bad kind of feels like the police showing up at like a known drug dealer's house where like they've had these interactions in the past but they don't have enough evidence to take them into the station so it's like you leave us the fuck alone and we'll threaten you back um coral

just wants to kill the jedi right away and she says what happens when they find out how the twins were created and then this old ass alien lady walks over and is like they should just fail the jedi test on purpose which like come on old ass alien lady like you think we didn't think of that but that is the plan they go with old ass alien lady i was like i don't know i'm trying to be accused of ageism i was like just shut up lady just shut up she's i did my tier list you know like last week my character tier list she goes immediately into the just chill out section like just chill the fuck out all right like you're old you're not going to be around much longer you just enjoy your life over there you don't got a problem to solve i know it probably wouldn't work out she probably would be dead but we'll just say she with her

magic power she can stay alive forever let's cgi her and replace her with uh akbar when he gets killed in uh which one did you kill then was that skywalker last jedi that was last year i got killed what a what a bad so many bad decisions i i love the last jedi i love it i don't like that decision i just don't and and like part of me understands it's because the actor died during filming but it's like you didn't have to kill the character off you can like he can just still be in the background of scenes you can be like oh akbar was there when they won the war again like yeah i didn't look like jonathan major's got arrested it's like oh my god you need you can't have a kang that's a different person he's a fish he's literally a fish yeah yeah don't love that decision uh also the line i love the

line where it's like who's more important to the kids, the person that carried the twins or the one that created the twins? And I once did say to my wife, I was like, technically, kids ruin me first. It starts with the man. And it's like, I was very smart not to push that joke because it's like, you want to really talk about this? The person who was in hell for basically 10 months and then like the months after giving birth to the kid so be very careful how you proceed with that woman was crazy for even like bench i don't know what kind of voodoo you have do not say that to the woman that carried kids for even a day let alone another one that just chill out like just chill out so many characters that just need soul or someone to like put their hand on their shoulder and say just chill out so many characters that just need soul or someone to like put their hand on their

shoulder and say just chill out uh there's this one line that rides the line of being a little too much without going overboard it this is about power and who is allowed to use it i thought that was pretty good i think that's what the whole show is about and a lot of what the star wars universe is about another one where it just rides the line of like you're pulling back the curtain for the audience and telling them what the show is about like looking down the barrel of the camera and be like you're understanding this right but again i need to remind myself this is a young adult show this is a show made with kids and teenagers in mind i think and when it comes down to that maybe you do need to pull back the curtain and remind them hey this is what star wars is about remember uh? Uh, but the twins begin their Jedi testing.

OSHA fails on purpose. My big takeaway from this though, if this is a hundred years before the phantom menace, you're telling me the technology has not advanced at all. It's the test they run on young Annie when he's like, it's a spaceship. It's a, this,

and he's just like reading what's on the iPad. The graphics haven't even improved in the last 100 years or maybe 116 years depending on i don't know how the timeline works with that but it's the same shit they've always been using and she fails on purpose but then passes when they again they're like hey why don't you try passing and she's like okay yeah that was kind of silly this just took me back to the guessing the object scene from ghostbusters when the cute girl like the nerdy guy are doing it he's getting some right and they're just buzzing him and then you know vancman's just giving the girl all a pluses for

everything she said so uh shout out ghostbusters i guess we're gonna make some we'll save some nice things because i feel like it's gonna get ugly at the end here our takes on the show yeah it's the it's just like i don't know it feels sloppy or something or put together weirdly mother anasaya says like if you want to pull the thread pull it if you want to go be a jedi i'll give you permission she tells her mom yes i do want to go be a jedi she basically word for word does the anakin shmi line where she's like you're telling me i'm never gonna see you ever again and she's no and they they go off their separate ways or whatever she has toys on her bed that kind of look like the ice foxes from last jedi i don't know if they were but i noted that could be an easter egg then may runs in she takes osha's notebook she's got this

weird triangle notebook which i laughed at i was like that they just wanted to make a notebook but they were like i can't do a fucking notebook we gotta make it star wars i don't know make it a triangle yeah she takes it and she's like i'm not gonna let you leave and she's like what are you gonna do and she says i'm gonna kill you and she like lights the notebook on fire and slams it the acting the child acting as we mentioned it's tough the dialogue isn't great whenever you allow a kid to be a little creepy though feeling it works like 10 out of 10 times just hearing a kid's voice be like i'm gonna kill you i was a little unnerved so i was like all right i'm a little disturbed by this this baby child this demon child uh she crawls through osha crawls through the vents john

mclean style to get out of the room when it's on fire both of them are caught underground and then may tells osha this part i thought was very interesting she's like where's mama she's like she's dead and then she says something like they're both like what have you done what have you done what have you done something went down that we didn't see in this moment and we're gonna see it when we get may's perspective of the story i don't think may that quickly burnt everything down and killed all the witches because we see the room with all the witches they're dead soul is able to save osha we see all the dead witches burning and stuff another hint that something went down that we didn't see when osha wakes up on the ship she's with the jedi master torben is there and you see him in the background it's blurry he's got the scar on his face and he didn't have it when they went to confront the witches

but he's fucked up clearly kelnock is not there which as a kelnock a guy i gotta admit is a little sus but even more sus is your guy soul blaming it all on may she's like what happened where's mama and he's like your sister killed him your sister killed them all and then he hugs her and has this look where you could tell he knows a little bit more went down there yeah i mean my guy soul came through yet again we didn't touch on that i noticed that he saved her life realize we fast forward he said he saved her he saved one of the two. He went 500. And also shout out to someone said,

our name is the soldiers. That will be our soul. Soldiers is good. I thought soul train could work, but I think soldiers is even better. It's right there for us. I, that was,

it was just a tough sequence all around. It was the child acting the way the, I don't know it just i the whole he did like four endings to this episode too that was weird yeah you notice that they cut the black and then they woke up and then they cut the black and then they woke up it was like return of the king like when they do that in lord of the rings i i don't never love that but you're back on brendak may's fine she's looking for os, probably assuming she's dead. Again, something more went down. I think that's very clear. I hope they don't spend an entire flashback episode talking about that at some point throughout the season.

I can see it being a cool reveal at the end. on all of this is that the Jedi at some point before the events of this episode misinterpreted the witch magic for dark side force using, which may, it may be a little bit of dark side force using. They cast the witches off. They make this type of magic illegal and they start a conflict between the Jedi and the witches because probably the Jedi like don't fully understand it. I would assume they don't even, it's not like they know about it and they're shutting it down before it becomes something bad. It's like the Jedi are ignorant. They don't fully understand it. They shut it down. This leads the witches to pair with the Sith who we don't even know at this point, the Sith don't really even exist at this point in the timeline. I don't think at least they haven't since like the old Republic time i don't even know if they were like the sith or whatever so i think they

partner with the sith and create together using their powers the twins the jedi are probably monitoring this because they've been monitoring the witches all along they think this is bad they think oh no how can we how can we stop this, prevent it? When they arrive, I think Kirill, Mother Kirill, the Zabrak, I think she attacks him right away behind everyone's back. I think she attacks the Jedi, the Jedi attack back, and then the Sith all along were in it for the Acolytes. So they were partnered with the witches just to get the babies. I think they probably damaged the reactor in the first place. And while a mother Kirill is attacking the Jedi and it looks like just the Jedi and the witches are fighting,

they blow up the reactor, take out two birds with one stone and they have their acolyte. That's my prediction. I will be shocked if anything else comes true now, because that's basically like right out of the sith playbook too right yes and they love taking babies and you know using them in that way i also think this could be a loop around way of getting to how plagus and palpatine learned about creating babies and possibly created anakin it's still up in the air whether or not Anakin was created

by Plagueis and Palpatine or in spite of Plagueis and Palpatine. In the Legends book about Plagueis, they said more or less that he could have been created by the Force in spite of them trying to create him. So it was like chicken or the egg type thing where it's like he was probably created because of them in one way or the other maybe the acolyte is the backdoor way of explaining that like the bad batch explains the cloning or you know like they like doing with these new star

wars shows where it's like you think it's about one thing but they kind of fill in the gaps on the rest of the universe i don't know those are all my theories i'm kind of like in the gaps on the rest of the universe. I don't know. Those are all my theories. I'm kind of like theory it out. I didn't have much further other than I think the Sith is behind it all to get the acolytes in the first place. And they kind of created the, uh, the witches and maybe even mother Kirill being Zebrak creates like the Dathomirian witches.

Maybe she branches off and the nightightsisters are created by her or something like that. Or the Emperor just did it all. Or somehow Palpatine returns and yeah, he's been around since the beginning. It could always come back to that. There could be some World Between Worlds time travel shit.

There could be some Space Whales. We won't get into that this week. Yeah, I mean, we got through episode There could be some space whales. We won't get into that this week. Um, yeah, I mean, we got it. We got through episode three, you know,

it wasn't the best episode. I didn't think it was horrible. I saw some people say it was horrible. I was kind of just like, eh, it was okay. It was a little boring next week. Hopefully we're back.

Ken Jack says we are Ken Jack says after episode four, more people are going to be invested in this series. And it's doing good numbers on disney plus so maybe they know what they're doing with the young adult stuff yeah uh i'm just hoping that next time we get the flashback whenever it may be i'm hoping it's not as like clunky feeling again because as ken jack as a lot of people told us the it feels low budget sometimes it is by far not low it's not it's actually high budget you would say yeah we said that last week we were like yeah it's a low budget star wars show and everyone was like they spent 180 to 200 million dollars on this it ain't low budget and it's four hours worth

of content or whatever it's kind of like two movies worth yeah it ain't low budget but sometimes it does certainly look at there's a scene in this episode where i think osha's looking out the window when they're like why don't you want to be a Jedi? And it just it didn't look like Star Wars. It looked like a TV show, a sci fi TV show or something. So, yeah, that's definitely a little issue they got going for it. Maybe a big issue for some, especially being Star Wars was like the technologically advanced series for so long. But it is what it is.

We'll get through it. We'll get through episode four. We get the boys coming back tomorrow as we record this. So it'll be the first three episodes of the boys premiere. They also announced season five, which this is season four, but the next season, season five will be the final season. Good move. I think we're both on that side of like, and the show when it's still good. And hopefully it still will be good by that. Also, when you have a show like this, where's Butcher and Homeland are coming to a head, how long can you put that off

before it's like, we got to have this come to a head? There is a part of me that feels like four might have been the sweet spot, but we'll see what four has for us. We'll see. You don't want to drag it out too much. We've seen that. They did say five was always the plan.

If they planned it out correctly, and it seen that they did say five was always the plan so if they planned it out correctly that's what and it could be the director said five was always the plan and you know he's writing a fifth season as we speak but we will do an episode on the first three episodes of that for sure i think maybe at some point this weekend or early next week keep an eye on the channels make sure you're subscribed to everything house House of the Dragon Sunday. House of the Dragon Sunday as well. That's right. So come back live after House of the Dragon ends. We'll be back.

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