My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 364 - HOUSE OF THE DRAGON SEASON 2 EPISODE 4

Episode Date: July 8, 2024

Robbie, KFC, Clem, Nick, and special guest TEAM GREEN representative Connor Griffin break down 'The Red Dragon and the Gold' - which may have been one of the best episodes in all of Game of Thrones hi...story! We had an amazing battle, high stakes death and backstabbing, blockbuster worthy scale, and whatever is going on with Daemon! #HouseOfTheDragon #GameOfThrones #HOTD ****************************************   My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike!   Subscribe on Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/MyMomsBasementWithRobbieFox Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Thank you. Hello and welcome to Game of Stools presented by Barstool Sports in my mom's basement. Get the energy up, Bob! Let's go! Let's go! Very special episode of Game of Stools. You know, the energy is there, but it's a bit of a sad energy. You see them in funeral attire this week. R.I.P. my dog, Rainis, Melis, all of these people. They passed, unfortunately. But we're here. We're here to recap it all.
Starting point is 00:01:40 It's myself, Robbie Fox. We've got KFC. We've got Clem in the dragon attire. We've got Nick Hamilton. And this got Clem in the dragon attire. We've got Nick Hamilton. And this is very much a Team Black podcast. We've been a Team Black podcast the entire series pretty much. But Team Green, Team Black, they're going head-to-head this week. We needed a Team Green representative. Welcome to the program, Connor Griffin, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:02:02 You sick fuck. I didn't know we were going to be started with this. I didn't know we were going to be started with this. I didn't know we were going to be started with this. It's my last time doing this, you sick fuck. This was an awesome episode tonight. We don't have to get into all of this rivalry stuff. We could save that for later. Wow.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Thank you so much for having me on. This is awesome. And what a fucking episode. I can't wait. What an episode. KFC. Thoughts? Bro, if there is, you know, it's become a thing.
Starting point is 00:02:28 We talked about it. You know, is there enough battles? Not enough battles. You got people fighting. Is it as good as Thrones? Is it bad as Thrones? We're still talking about the ending of that one. If you have a problem with this episode, don't watch the show.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Because this is what this is. Like, this is Game of Thrones game of thrones at its peak at its pinnacle it had it all it had it had all the political uh machinations it had the finally the dragons it had battle it had blood it had backstabbing it had fantasy you know uh sightseeing it had absolutely everything so uh this one was i i felt like i was watching one of my teams play tonight like if they don't deliver on this game this tonight like this season is not going to be good that's how it felt and they absolutely fucking delivered on it 100 so i think everybody should be happy with with where this is at now. And if you're not at this point, it's probably just not for you.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Dragon Clem, how we feeling? The dragons are dancing, motherfuckers. I've been told by people like Connor who know what the fuck they're talking about that shit's going to pick up. Business is about to pick up, as JR said. And business picked up. Fire was blowing through the sky. And dragons died.
Starting point is 00:03:42 And I realize even on people I don't like, I don't like dragons fighting. I don't like them being sad, hurt, and dying no matter what fucking color you're flying. But, man, it fucking just felt good. And I'm going to blame tonight, KFC. You killed Reynis. Team Mush. It felt like one of your teams played. Yeah, because one of your teams took a massive loss.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Dude, that is my girl. And, I mean, listen, we all saw that coming right as soon as she steps up and tells rainier i'll go do it i think we know where this where this is going and then as soon as we know that vagar is lying lying in wait we know she's fucked when she when she first goes to battle and she puts her head against her and she's like one more time old girl i was like oh my god and then when she straps in the belt and hooks in like we ain't going anywhere and then even even the king is dead by the way the king should be fucking dead if he's still alive i'm gonna be a little mad about that but whatever like you've done some serious damage you've taken out sunfire you've pretty much taken out the king. You could live to fight another day.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Like, you've done enough. You've done enough. And she's like, attack. And she just turns back around. It's like, that's my girl. Both of them. Maylis and Rhaenys were the two, like, absolute. Rhaenyra, to some extent.
Starting point is 00:05:01 But those two are, like, there's nothing to hate about them. You know what I mean? They are, like like the most beloved and when she just like it was like a a you know a girl and her dog or a girl and her horse it was but it was a dragon you know and then and it's like she's so out battle like this dragon is so fucking big but she still got her licks in man a couple claws to the chest and yeah you know and even the dragon knows when the dragon looks back and she's like we're like, we're fucked, man. We're fucked.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Let's do it together. Oh, God. It was great. Kev, if I was Rhaenys and I had just killed the king, by the way, I murdered the king, the usurper to the throne with his dragon, you would have seen my ass back in Dragonstone, George W. Bush mission accomplished banner hanging up. Thumbs up.
Starting point is 00:05:44 We did it, guys. Don't worry about everything else. Yeah, man. You did enough. Yeah, the Rooks landing or Rooks whatever it's called, they burned to a crisp by Vhagar like five minutes later. But I'm back. Everyone, let's throw a parade.
Starting point is 00:05:55 I wouldn't have turned back once, let alone twice. Cuckoo fucking behavior right now. No, but that's why she's – that's who she is, man. That's who she is. Although, yeah, it's like you're not who she is man that's who she is although yeah like it's like you're not gonna fucking win that battle so it would be better if you just went back and we'd still have you and your dragon but just gangster to go out that way i don't want to rain on this parade that clem is throwing over here i i don't think agon is dead i if we don't see that
Starting point is 00:06:21 body i know him like really truly breathing, you got to play with sci-fi rules here. Like, yeah, I'm pretty sure. You know, I think it was obviously very clear. Amon was like, I'm going to kill my brother in the, in the middle of all this. And like, I'm going to kill two, two dragons with one stone here and I'll end up being the king. And if Kristen Cole's bitch ass doesn't stumble into the exact perfect right part of the forest uh i think it would have been curtains with that valerian dagger so yeah i think he
Starting point is 00:06:50 probably is alive i to what extent though like i i don't yeah he might be a vegetable yeah yeah well they did show some sort of coffin looking box in the in the preview but it was yes and allison goes is he alive that's all that's all we got i mean i don't know how you fall from the sky by the way an interesting thing i just never thought about till we started doing dragon fights you can't really kill a dragon with fire can you you have to beat it up you have to fucking rip it to pieces which i didn't even think of until they started you know hitting each other with fire um and then the obviously you know they they do thrones has a cool way of you know when we saw the drag the dragon become a white walker
Starting point is 00:07:31 in thrones the way like the eyes opened up and uh this time around the head being like i've never even considered a dragon being beheaded you know that's never even like in the realm of possibility for me so the fact that he bit off the head was very cool. But anyway, yeah, back to your point. We'll see Aegon next week, but what shape he's in, who knows. The guy who made this episode, huge beheading guy. He was the guy who directed the Ned Stark beheading. Yeah, shout out to Alan Taylor.
Starting point is 00:07:58 He had another beheading in this episode. He's like that dude when it comes to Thrones. That was an awesome way to start the episode too with that whole vision with Damon. I love how they're bringing back Millie Alcock. I thought that was just going to be a one-off thing. Apparently she's just going to be around this season in these flashbacks, and that was such a good way
Starting point is 00:08:18 to really capture you right off the bat, and then you get all the crazy shit later on. I could see a scenario where she's back a bunch because if you think about it like it's that version of reynera that like haunts damon and fucks with damon you know what i mean that's i think that's almost how he still sees her and not even as you know his adult wife so i could see her continuing to to show up as long as he's doing the uh weirwood visions and all that shit. Connor, did you get any empire strikes back vibes from that?
Starting point is 00:08:50 Me and Ken Jack texted about it right away. The beheading, the dark side forest. Yes, I did. There was, there was a lot of star Wars in this. I felt even in the later part of the episode where a gone is just like waiting in his chambers.
Starting point is 00:09:01 And he's like, fuck it. I'm going to go. That was very much like anakin and him trying to go save uh the emperor from mace windu and everything like there were a lot of parallels that i was keeping tabs on i was also looking for parallels to uh battle the bastards i was trying to figure out that shit later on i couldn't find much but yeah this all around it had so many nods and references to so much other nerds wait are you a book reader do you know everything
Starting point is 00:09:24 already i specifically and i do this all the time and people make fun of me for it i specifically don't want to read the books because i don't want to spoil the shows right i know my friends yeah my friends who love reading and books like you realize it's kind of like reverse like you're supposed to read the i'm like no i don't want to yeah so i don't always go read the books you can't unwatch the show you know you can't experience this yeah again and uh that's why like i was gonna make a prediction about agon i was like we could probably go to the books and figure that out i know that's that's the only part that sucks a little bit about house of the dragon whereas game of thrones it was like anybody's guess is as good as yours uh we obviously you know there's gonna be some people out there who already know what happened but um but yeah anyway so yeah knock on
Starting point is 00:10:09 wood book readers are pretty good about it i gotta say with spoilers i can't believe that they don't just go on i mean people are are lawless on the internet and you know they'll fight over politics and death and murder all this shit but they will not just go on and be like, so-and-so wins the throne. Yeah. Well, maybe it's a, it speaks to like, if you read literature, you're probably above that. Yeah. Probably.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Yeah. Like if I, if I knew I'd probably think. The, the, the King and Queen and like, uh, in the red keep don't go down to the peasants and be like you guys are poor we know we're poor we're just gonna enjoy like the little fucking fried food we had down here alright do you want to start breaking down the episode
Starting point is 00:10:53 Kevin are you sticking around are you hopping off I gotta hear Connor's reaction to the fight too because I thought he was a book reader and I was like how did it stick up to the books but just as a basic brain TV watcher like the rest of us how did you fucking how did you feel as a team green guy seeing that all go down because as a black guy i was like oh boy as a black guy rephrase rephrase um no so i'll just get into that right off the bat i guess where the reason
Starting point is 00:11:23 why i say i'm team green and i think ke, you said this on an earlier episode where you were like, it boils down to Allison versus Rhaenyra for me. And I'm Rhaenyra. I am the opposite. I'm Allison. I think Rhaenyra is so much worse than people think. I think especially going back to the first season when she's lying about having bastards and she's hiding behind the shield of her father and it's like you know oh he'll never you know turn against me and i could lie and cheat and do all this selfish stuff and he's still gonna put me on the throne i just i i hated her in season that young girl was forced into that life sir she's just making the best they're both making the best of the hand that they were dealt allison was forced into the role allison yes but she's gone full-blown bitch mode now where rainier is still at least trying to They're both making the best of the hand that they were dealt. Allison was forced into the role. Allison.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Yes, but she's gone full-blown bitch mode now, where Rainier is still at least trying to keep some semblance of good. Yeah, listen, maybe she was a little bit, you know, cocky about her bastards, sure. But I do feel, I mean, I think the story at its heart is those two girls being kind of forced into this life and then trying to make the best of it, but then also kind of like Breaking Bad almost. Like, we're also kind of getting a little thirsty for power. This is the first time I've been really upset with Rhaenyra. Like, the most obvious, you know, we're going to go after Rook's Roost.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Like, and she even says like, why are they doing that? And I was like, oh, my girl's too smart for that. She knows that that's, that's a decoy.
Starting point is 00:12:52 And I didn't, I didn't understand that it was going to be a decoy with Vhagar. I thought they were going to be attacking just a totally different place, but it was like, she even knew it in the moment and then still walked into that trap. So not, not great for Rainiera. And had, had Rainice not stepped in there, it would have been curtains for her. So not, not great for Rainier and had,
Starting point is 00:13:05 had Rainey's not stepped in there, it would have been curtains for her. And that would have been the whole fucking thing would be over. Yeah. When it comes to the last battle, really like, yeah, I'm team green,
Starting point is 00:13:15 but since Alison and Rainier, both were not involved in it, I really was just rooting for a good fucking battle and trying to see somebody. And I, I do love, even though I am a team green guy, Damon is my favorite character in the show. I mean, you need to go to therapy, bro.
Starting point is 00:13:32 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're sick. I just like Good Thrones. I like the show. Well, I like Good Thrones. I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you. He's Rob Lowe with the NFL hat.
Starting point is 00:13:42 I like the hero to the shield. If I had to choose between Allison or Rhaenyra, I'd choose Allison. Oh, no, the lights are going out on me. One second. Anyway. Yeah, it's because you're a bad person. It's because you're going to hell. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:13:55 I mean, Daemon is like the most conflicted, you know, character ever. And that's what makes him like interesting. But he's a sick fuck. At this point point it's like you know i mean yeah it's all about the throne baby and and he wants it so you know no no all is fair in love and war and dragons and shit but god damn you're i was just i was just rooting for death in the in the battle and that's what we got and none of my major players were really like involved i also love amand And he was a badass.
Starting point is 00:14:25 And I've been waiting for him to really come alive. He's been like – What's next? What, are you like Gwaine too? I bet you're a Gwaine guy. Are you a Gwaine guy, Connor? Don't you fucking tell me you're a Gwaine guy. Oh, actually, no.
Starting point is 00:14:34 We have a Christian Cole. We have a green guy on the pod. We have to ask. Let me hear about your Christian Cole take. Like, are you going to spin zone Christian Cole for me now? The guy scores. You have to give him credit. Dude, somebody said to me, I don't know if I mentioned on this show or on another video I was making, but one, I had just made a video being like, so Kristen Cole is the worst, like one of the worst characters ever on
Starting point is 00:14:59 TV. I hate him in a good way. Like, you know, he's doing an amazing job as an actor. But then somebody sent me a DM and he said, he do be crime climbing the ladder though and i was like he knew me climbing the ladder like he is the only problem is that his his motivations are all about like you know these girls who like turned me down when we were 16 if he was like little finger like i will kill you and and a baby to get to the top of the throne, then like all good. But the fact that it comes from a place of like insecurity and like being a little bitch. But he does. He scores.
Starting point is 00:15:31 He puts up numbers. He takes he sacks cities left and right, apparently. Well, he's in way over his head now. And you see it in that last battle. And he's just totally mentally just not with it. But we could we could get to it. But, yeah, I'm fine with Kristen Cole. He serves a
Starting point is 00:15:45 necessary purpose in the show and that's what i like about him i feel like george rr martin paid this guy we you know how like hbo did the whole hbo's whole thing was are you team green or team black like everyone in the world on the internet was like we're team black they're like we need some greens out there let's go pay connor let's get this guy on the show and he can say he's team green he's the chargers lady that was at the game i'll tell you what though man kristen cole you know just get into the episode i'm just going around the same rabbit hole how much i fucking despise christopher i apologize so we begin the episode with that scene we already kind of touched on the damon nightmare with young rainiera slices her head off she's still talking to him with the head sliced off kind of taunting him uh says your brother loved me more than you still a sore subject for him and there's a lot of like taunting with uh
Starting point is 00:16:35 damon and whether or not he actually is okay with her on the throne if he respects her on the throne kind of goes back to that argument they had um and the strongs warned damon that they don't have the time to raise an army worthy of kristen coles he's like let's see what lord paramount's made of and he meets a child that is speaking for lord paramount very funny damon scene where he has a few like just looks that he shoots people like this is what we're dealing with here and as soon as the kid is like oh no like yeah i'm speaking for grover up there he's in bed you know on on frigging the ventilator or whatever. He's like, why don't you put a pillow over his face and fucking suffocate him? Because otherwise I have no use for you.
Starting point is 00:17:14 It was a great Damon scene. Really, really good. And like kind of funny to like contrast to the nightmare he was having at the beginning. Did he? He literally said, like, why don't you take a feather pillow and put it over his face team damon came out hot with that one again me and nikki ham and our boy connor too we're all team damon guys and that's he's like dude i killed my wife or excuse me his wife off the horse he uh you mainly put her down i believe his daughter determined horse racing
Starting point is 00:17:40 so he mainly destroyed her um the other wife who we saw later, that was a whole bag of worms. By the way, I don't know if we talked about this on this show or if I read it online, but Grover is apparently named after the Muppet. It's literally he's like a puppet. So that's why they call him Grover. And then Oscar, his son, which I'm guessing Oscar the Grouch, might be a Muppet family. Is that true, Nicky Hamilton? I feel like that might be the case.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Yeah, that's true. That's true. There might be an Elmo in there too. I was gonna say look like lord burton lord ernie from afar george was having fun with this one and like i don't know if he ever saw this series getting made and he just stuck with it he's like we're gonna keep the names i love it that's how it feels like placeholder names that you would put it like if instead of yesterday like paul mccartney stuck with scrambled eggs or something and you know like it still works or something uh rainice meets alan pretty interesting scene where she takes one look at him and she's
Starting point is 00:18:35 like hmm your mother must have been real beautiful huh like you were the one that saved my husband and then corners i love when corliss just like walk past her and she corners him. She's like, no, no, you're not walking past me. You didn't think to mention that? Like, I love Corliss. He's the one who saved your life? Corliss doing the old like, are we really going to pick a fight? Is that really what we're going to do right now?
Starting point is 00:18:56 Really? You want to just pick a fight about this? Here in front of everybody? Yeah. Right. Like you're at the party and your girl's drunk and doing it again. But again, Rainice being like the best moral compass of the whole fucking show, being like, how about you treat this guy like your son, you asshole? Like, look what's going on because of people who, you know, mistreat their kids and bastards and all that.
Starting point is 00:19:17 How about you just treat him like your son? Catelyn Stark learned a thing or two from our girl, Rainis. That was a good triple point right there. That was a good triple point. We were with it. Catelyn Stark is also somebody I hated in Game of Thrones. I thought she was the worst. Hate, hate, hate, hate. But no, I think Reynise is somebody I've really come to love.
Starting point is 00:19:36 I never really thought much of her in the first season. I was like, yeah, she's fine. She's a good supporting character. Obviously, she had the badass moment towards the end of the season where she storms into the coronation and everything. But I like yeah i'm kind of indifferent to her this episode on top of last episode is when i really started to come around i was like no reynise is fucking awesome and that's why the end of the episode was so tough but i was glued to the screen her demise yeah yeah i was glued to the screen whenever she was on in this episode and
Starting point is 00:20:03 i thought for yeah like a character building episode she definitely shined out of everybody in the original thrones did you have like a person connor that was like your guy or girl like obviously you're like team allison here kind of like surprises people i uh my guy was sir jorah i loved jorah mormon i didn't have any like major players i tyrian i liked a lot um but you know overall i didn't root for anybody in particular john snow for the first couple seasons it's not really like his show it's more so tyrian show so i fell in love with tyrian then and then i was like oh wait a second i think they're turning this into like john snow moving forward uh and yeah that's when I kind of started to become a Jon guy.
Starting point is 00:20:48 But I wasn't for a long time. Not that I hated him. But yeah, I didn't have any like real avid allegiance to anybody. Anybody but Jorah. That's a funny one. That's like, that's what I wanted when I asked that question. Again, you're insane. I just love Jorah.
Starting point is 00:21:02 The world has like, hey, who's your favorite person in Game of Thrones? Jorah. He was good. I liked him, but I never would have expected that in a million years. I'll put together a top five by the end of the episode. I'll put together a top five, and I'll rank them. Connor, don't let them go at you too hard. They forget.
Starting point is 00:21:19 The Mormonts were fucking Jesus. Down to our girl, little Mormont, who was killing zombies last night. I'm re-watching it right now. He is the man. It's just like there's literally a thousand characters probably ahead of him. I don't know. I just like the accent. I like the fact that he's just like this older guy who's just swinging swords left and right.
Starting point is 00:21:39 And obviously his death at the end of the show is great. I don't know. I just always rooted for Jorah Mormont. But yeah, that show I didn't have. Obviously because they rooted for, for Jorah Mormont. But yeah, that, that show I didn't have, obviously cause they're not really pitting you like, Oh,
Starting point is 00:21:48 are you team this or team that? I was just like, yeah, I'm just here to watch a show and I'll pick out my characters when I, when I do. And Jorah was one that I picked out from the very beginning. And I was like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:21:56 I like Jorah. Just rooting for good thrones. This is a good vibe. I like that. That's what I do. Allison orders some liquid plan b for her friend and the guy comes in he's like let your friend know you know this is very rough on the gut and he kind of gives her the side effects or whatever and she on his way out is like hey you worked for my dad uh
Starting point is 00:22:18 did you think he meant to put my son on the throne he's like i don't i don't know man like this is you're putting me in a tough spot here but i i liked her asking that guy she's so desperate in this moment where she's just like i don't know she feels a little comfort in this guy because he's bringing her medicine i guess it's like will anybody just give me like tell me what i want to hear right now can anybody be like you were totally right you were absolutely right he was not agon the conqueror he totally wanted you that kid i mean but even she know i think can we all agree at this point it doesn't fucking matter anymore like it doesn't matter what he was saying it doesn't matter what he wanted it's like rainice was saying we're just gonna fight and everybody's gonna die now the horse is out of the barn on this one i think she's accepted that by the end of this episode too yeah
Starting point is 00:23:04 yeah it's the catcher one football like did des catch it not catch it it doesn't fucking matter the game is over the next week the packers won or whatever like that shit has been it's an ink it's dried it's over i just want to shout out the meister it's the first i think my sir that's ever told the truth when asked like does the king deserve to be on the throne they're always like oh yes you're grace and granted uh who was it pie cell that fucking old bastard he was up lying he thought no matter what just to like save his own ass this guy was like honestly he never told me i was like holy shit someone told the truth and thrones for once that actually is like as a good title like i didn't want to shout out that
Starting point is 00:23:37 guy they had a good nickname for him last week was like the iron remember that he had like a good nickname they called him it's like the iron maybe Maybe someone in the high council in the chat will give it to us here. Was Pisces or whoever you said the Meister was? Was he the one with the cracking bones? The old dude? Yeah, the old dude. Yeah. I like that old bastard.
Starting point is 00:23:58 And then at the end, he was all spry as shit. He was like, oh, I'm fine. Yeah, I like that scene. One of the greatest reveals ever. Nick, did you have something, Nick? No, I was just saying that was him. He was the one that was hooking up with all of Baelish's prostitutes. He ruled.
Starting point is 00:24:12 He was totally fine. I just want to point out that this guy in the High Council, Jay Money and the boys, is mad that I said Rhaenys is the moral compass because she did mass murder like a thousand innocent people at the coronation. You know, you got to break a couple eggs. Like, you know what I mean? Shut the fuck up, dude. Dude, there was a sign that said dragon parking somewhere.
Starting point is 00:24:32 And they know that there's a chance of dragons. Yeah, don't have a party in a dragon pit. Lord Jasper Ironwood. Ironwood, yeah. Ironwood. Good name. Bela holds a strategy meeting with Rayynise old dudes again just shitting on her and she has a good chirp back i think it's at sir alfred where she's like oh maybe you should
Starting point is 00:24:54 have done that with your dragon how about that sir alfred that was great i loved that i also like when they're in the like targaryen war outfits very uh calise you know you get vibes of the the outfits and wardrobe she wore especially towards the end of the series i thought that when we saw young rainier at the beginning of the episode i was like wow she really looks like calise there um but yeah he goes on and on about this being a rudderless ship sir alfred and then corliss walks in and he fucking puts his foot down like a teacher walking into you know a room full of rowdy kids and he's like what has happened to this council and he gets him in shape that wasn't his foot bob that was his big old dick slapping the table going shut
Starting point is 00:25:39 the fuck up you goddamn that's you know what i'm gonna say it demonetized 30 minutes in small console that's their names as long as sir al Alfred and whoever that other schmuck is. I hate those guys. I think I hate them more than anybody other than Kristen Cole on this show. They are the fucking worst. They suck. They do. They really do.
Starting point is 00:25:55 I do. That was one thing I was interested to see, though, how they did get pretty pissed at Rhaenyra for being absent, which even though they're the worst, like that does make sense. Like the Cole is out here picking up all these castles and acquiring all this land. And now he's really gaining the power of the throne. And like Rhaenyra is nowhere to be found.
Starting point is 00:26:16 And like, I totally forgot. I was like, yeah, I guess she never even told anybody that. Yeah. That was like a, uh,
Starting point is 00:26:22 sometimes I struggle with thrones. I'm like, how far away are these places? Does this take like a week? Does this take a day sometimes I struggle with thrones. I'm like, how far away are these places? Does this take like a week? Does this take a day? I don't know. Like how long was her little trip to King's Landing? It seemed like a whole bunch of shit went down.
Starting point is 00:26:33 But when, when she was like, I was, you know, I snuck in to see the fucking queen. Again, those guys kind of feel like assholes. I'd imagine like, it's not like I'm, she's not just out of a party, dude. She's out there risking her life. Imagine the anxiety you must feel on the way back from that trip though not knowing what you're missing like if I forget my phone on a 10 minute walk with my dog I'm like oh fuck fucking Conor McGregor probably shot someone and like you know like if I miss 10 minutes without my phone existence bob going back like weeks whatever um kristin cole starts around the armies against the horror of dragon stone when he said that it hit me like a punch to the gut um and you ever say that connor is that something you call her
Starting point is 00:27:20 yeah do you call it she did sleep around a lot when she was little instead of trying to find a suitable husband she was going and doing whatever she wanted to um no i've never called her that though i don't use that word with women now they never set up our school and then there's this old dude what was his name the old dude that gets beheaded here but he gets the mouth off at the end do we have his name i should mark that down i'm sure somebody in the in the chat has it i'm sorry at the same time dream was the castle or something was that the dragon dragon darklin someone's saying darklin we'll go with darklin um he gets the mouth off to kristen cole a little bit he's like you're not worthy of that white cloak your fucking death is gonna come in due time then he gets beheaded um and kristen's
Starting point is 00:28:11 like we're not going to harrenhal this is the scene where he's like yeah we're not going there we're fucking taking the the opposite way we're gonna we're gonna ambush these motherfuckers and it's clear that quayne along for the ride but he doesn't really know what's going on. Gwaine is just a fool. He's just like, you know, he's just there to have someone for Chris and Cole to have conversations with, to have dialogue with during the battlefield.
Starting point is 00:28:36 This is like you got to put the brother-in-law in the groom's party to make her happy. Yeah. I like the dynamic though. I think it's definitely like it is it's good yeah yeah it works because they're kind of both like chickens running with no heads like when he was like they'll never expect it he's like because it's fucking crazy yeah no kidding uh i'm gonna bounce to let you guys finish up recapping the episode i do just want to say one another thing that i did not understand about dragons is they explode when they die yes like yeah like a car a lot of gas in that
Starting point is 00:29:11 belly i guess in in uh like in in movies when a car gets set on fire they all automatically blow up dragons apparently just pop when they explode it's like it's like one of those whales exploding uh so r.i.p to my girl my two girls connor i'll let you take it off and uh i'm gonna go watch another bloodbath of tv see you guys okay we'll see you next week guys do you think when they were talking about preparing for battle and it'll be unexpected because it's daytime was there any meta wink to the audience to let us know this battle is not going to be dark and we're going to be able to see it now that you say it i definitely think there was it was part of me that was like oh they're really like making a point to be like hey we're hitting them during the day it's like you
Starting point is 00:29:53 know shit the sun's out but it's like maybe they just wanted to be like hey stick around kids after the commercial break like you'll be able to see it i hope george rr martin just like had like five notes that they had to shoot down like george this one's really heavy-handed like you don't need a special hgtv what is hgt movie my lord don't worry about it you don't need your settings to be bright enough to see the fucking battle that they ruined my life's work for like i feel like that's what george was probably thinking when they wrote that episode well let me ask you guys this i know obviously in the preview for this episode when they revealed it last week you saw dragons you saw what looked like a battle I was keeping tabs on the time I was thinking that we weren't going to get a battle this episode I thought they were going to tease us and it was
Starting point is 00:30:35 going to get pushed back to next week I don't know if I was the only one there same several times during the battle itself because it was only a 54 minute episode i was expecting a hard cut at some point what i want them to start doing release fake times give me a fake time for oh i like that uh movies used to release fake trailers marvel used to do that all the time i want to be anticipating like shorter or longer and then just be like when's it over when's it because that happened today and it was so exciting to be like, how much more are we doing? Every time the screen went black,
Starting point is 00:31:10 I thought it was done. I definitely thought after Rain East went down and the screen went black before Cole wakes up, I thought that was going to be the moment. I got up. I started getting dressed. By the way, could I clear that up too too i don't have a costume but i'm wearing the show oh nice yeah so it was also so last minute i asked you like an hour ago before you know to do this so
Starting point is 00:31:35 you know everyone give him a break he didn't have a costume because it was last minute but back to the show agon is pissed about damon taking harrenhal he wants it back he's like what the fuck why isn't he like why aren't we going to harrenhal i don't understand what's happening and amand is like oh i've been talking to cole you know we're going a other way what were they going rooks uh rooks run rooks run rooks rest was it or rooks rest rooks rest it's like we're going to rooks rest and agon is i think he realized before this but he the wheels are really starting to come off for him where he realizes he's not really in control like he's there and everyone is working around him and later on he goes and
Starting point is 00:32:18 complains to allison about this and allison basically tells him like, hey, do what you need to do. Nothing like you should be grateful that we all put you on this throne. But just being the king doesn't make you smart. And I loved when he was like, they don't let me get a word at the meeting. She's like, what would that word be? And he's like, I'm the king. She's like, that's it. That's your whole point. It was a very good scene.
Starting point is 00:32:44 And I like Alison being able to put her foot down as the mother. I'm not going to lie. that's it that's your whole that's the whole point it was a very good scene and i like allison being able to put her foot down as the mother i'm not gonna lie it is a little hard casting wise i can make my brain believe it but a guy i think already looks older than allison in my mind yeah he's definitely climbing up i like this whole scene where she like she's clearly looking she's trying to figure out what the fuck the song of fire and Ice is Like she's just looking around like asking at she has all the books pulled out and she's like asking him Where's all your dad's books at like oh you you thought it was cool to get rid of the thousands of years That might help us in this fucking battle of dragons. Well, I think it's just such an awesome scene She's been like the past three episodes like Connor. i get why you're on her side she is great also like i do since the last season i've seen her and other stuff and
Starting point is 00:33:32 she's just awesome actress she crushes yeah yeah it did made me appreciate google because they could be like what is the song of ice and fire even this new ai reserve results that they give you that aren't always right it's better than like whatever the fuck she is. She's getting no books. And then she's, he said, at least I didn't burn him. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:33:48 all right, let's start. You're getting burned books. Nonetheless, though. And I mean, I hate to say it. Amon,
Starting point is 00:33:55 what do we call him? Amen. The, what was it? Amen. The magnificent or magnanimous, magnanimous, magnanimous.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Yeah. I'm starting to think though, like Alison made a good point. She basically ran the kingdom while the Sarah's was sick, which was for like a thousand years, basically. And then her dad, Otto, did a great job keeping the things running at the hand of the king. I'm going to just ask the question right now. Is Amon a system king, like a system quarterback? Is he just a product of the system?
Starting point is 00:34:21 And we got Kyle Shanahan. Kyle Shanahan is an offensive coordinator, right? And he had like, oh, you know, his mom was basically, you know he had kyle shanahan he had kyle shanahan as offensive coordinator right and he had like oh you know his mom was basically you know running shit as like john lynch and he's a little brock birdie there maybe so it's kind of a tough look and tonight's episode didn't do any favors for even in anybody's mind i think we can agree on that well no i think too part of what makes that scene so unique and interesting is the fact that like Allison has no power right now. Like Allison has is away from the small council, even when she's on the small council. She doesn't have her father there anymore as Hand of the King. Kristen is going rogue and agon is rogue and like she is totally even if she does say in that moment like
Starting point is 00:35:07 hey you you could end this war right here like what weight does that carry and also agon isn't going to listen to her like and as we saw in that scene when she says do nothing he doesn't listen to her then and he does do something so she has absolutely no grounds right now and is so helpless and she's talking to an imbecile um and i thought that overall was an awesome scene and i also like the scene beforehand in the small council was uh was amon talking valerian to oh yeah and agon like could barely speak it back like that was great. That was fucking awesome. And that's when you know, yeah, there's a power shift. And when Aegon was making fun of Aemon in the brothel last week,
Starting point is 00:35:52 that meant a lot to Aemon. And he's remembering that and he's going to carry that forward. And, yeah, the tides are turning and now it's really going to be Aemon taking the reins as the true power in this family. Who do we think in the small council knows enough High Valyrian to know that he was bullshitting? Because I think Laris. Laris is like, that was bullshit.
Starting point is 00:36:12 He doesn't know what he's saying. The rest of them I think were clueless, but just knowing he's Master Whispers and the snake that he is, I feel like he followed along but just kept a straight face the whole time, just being like, good job. All right, cool. And he also had no good faces like they felt very awkward as the valerian was being spoken I had a
Starting point is 00:36:32 friend I grew up with Juan and when his mom would get mad at him right back to Spanish and the rest of us in the room would be like oh we don't know what they're saying but this cannot be good and they had that vibe where it was just like valerian when that comes out it's bad yeah the monster speaking angry like italian and spanish yeah yeah oh yeah i do love how laris just knows everything that's going on in alice's life just every single thing no matter what she lies about he he's on it right away i'm curious about that connor because the next scene is pervert laris walking into her quarters and oh you feel sick don't you and everything he says comes with that wink and nod of like i know what's really going on and i'm gonna see if you're willing to tell me
Starting point is 00:37:17 the truth on what's going on i mean she makes an amazing disgusted face when he walks into by the fireplace he walks in she hears his voice fireplace, he walks in, she hears his voice and she's just like, ugh. Do you have any defense for Pervert Laris? No, but again, he's a great fucking character. He's the perfect little finger
Starting point is 00:37:38 for this show. His outfit this week, Farquaad style. Yes. He's been less of a pervert this season which makes me just like start to forget about that because now he's just like he walked in he took a look at that tea which how do you leave that on the table yeah you're taking this someone like that's that's day one shit like just throw that in the fire like but yeah and she tried to get him off the scent by being gross she was like i, I taken steamy shits basically.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Yeah. That, that doesn't work on that guy. I tell you right now, that's not where I'm a lady. Where would that be? I'd love to help you out. I,
Starting point is 00:38:15 the real question I think she wanted to ask is I know I locked that door. Do you have a key to my room? And I don't know about it. It's like, yeah, you know, where it says keys to all the doors. That was part of their contract.
Starting point is 00:38:25 He could see. He could see. At the history textbooks out. And he's like, Hmm, are you doubting that? You know, your son was supposed to actually be,
Starting point is 00:38:36 you know, knows the entire thing that's going through her mind right now. And she's just like, Nope. She's come to this stance where she's like people are going to believe what they want to believe and it's it's too late basically whatever's happened happened we don't know what he actually meant but we're at war now which i think this was the scene where she's basically acknowledging that i don't know how much how conflicted she's going to be going forward on this yeah it's also like going back to last episode when they have that scene between
Starting point is 00:39:10 reneira and allison and it's their one-on-one conversation and allison has that realization like oh my god this is actually not at all what i thought and we might be in the wrong here it's part of the reason why i still defend her in that moment because i'm like what do you do like the war's already started like cole's already out like dragons are about to be flying like she's totally helpless going back to what i was saying before she has no power anymore she used to be i love when she said that to rainier too in that scene where she's yeah on those out like my son's like she almost like blurts it out in like confession of like i actually can't do anything about this even if i wanted to yeah she was running the kingdom when viserys was
Starting point is 00:39:51 raining but he was all decrepit and withering away now what is she gonna do so yeah she's in this weird spot this helpless spot and laris calls her out for it and uh yeah i'm curious to see if they step it up for laris because even even so far this season, like when he had an opportunity in episode two to really do some demented, twisted shit. I thought he was going to kill the rat catcher. And then, no, instead it's Aegon who does it. Like I'm waiting for some more stuff to go down with Laris because there's definitely stuff in the pipeline there. Oh, yeah. And then Daemon has another nightmare he
Starting point is 00:40:25 sees amen but it's him and amen and let's like what's going on here and then we meet alice rivers the woman who we saw last week out in the garden looks like you're gonna die here um and they have this conversation she's a she's an interesting cat she calls herself a barn owl forced to live as a human which vibes right away where you're like okay yep you're you know the stevie nicks vibes she prods him about reynira contesting the legitimacy you know do you actually want the throne do you feel weird about it how she usurped you and then she gives him this drink and like all of a sudden he's blacking out at which when she gives you the drink he calls her a witch he's like get away from me witch whatever she's like here drink this you'll feel
Starting point is 00:41:08 great what in the world is he doing taking that when someone's just like a rock star when they're like i'll take whatever pill you give me she just like licked blood off her fingers from making that drink and it's like sucking on it and like he's just like ah fuck it i gotta sleep like what what do you got like that was a wild move to like just be like all right you told me i'm gonna die like that's my first introduction to you maybe you're not too bad like let's try this out he just wouldn't and he had the blood on his hand that wasn't there that was there wasn't there was there i don't know if that was earlier with the nightmare or this one but that was interesting too he wouldn't eat peas from some dude who's basically sucking his dick but he's gonna drink some witch's brew that he's
Starting point is 00:41:53 literally calling which oh and again team david for life but just a tough look like it just made no goddamn sense and i got the you guys are talking about dagobah that was the eye patch part of the dream i'm like that was lu was Luke seeing the Vader face in the mask, right? Yeah, agreed. In Vader's mask. So just a tough look. And again, he's like, I'm like, well, at least Harrenhal is built on a weirwood forest that they bulldozed down.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Well, that explains, you know, Harrenhal being haunted. But at least, like, Daemon's, like, room isn't haunted. It's like, you're sleeping in a weirwood bed. It oh it's over our guy's gone he's cooked we can't come back from a wherewithal there's no way around it's gonna be tough like he's one don't go sleep back in that bed yeah what are you asking for if you're gonna like just go right back there uh one of one of our small council over on uh the realm of tick tock uh pointed out that she was making it before he even got there. She's making the sleepy sleep and he's just like,
Starting point is 00:42:49 I'm glad you just make this in the middle of the night all the time. Shout out to our viewers on TikTok. We're streaming on TikTok. Yeah, we did get a little restricted on there a little while ago. I don't know what we said. I appealed it. We'll see what happens. I'm sure we deserved it.
Starting point is 00:43:06 So like and share, and it'll help us push through that. I am excited for where this character goes, though. I like when Game of Thrones gets a little witchy and a little weird like this. I also liked seeing Damon as Amen, because I do think they're like very similar.
Starting point is 00:43:24 And even in the last season they shared a moment when they were all at Driftmark where they kind of like respected each other's game almost and now I think we're starting to see Amon snap where he's going off and just trying to burn everybody with his dragon trying to kill his brother I think Damon soon is about to snap once he gets into war and I don't know exactly what the full context or summary of that specific vision was, but I like the parallel between Damon and Amon. Obviously their names are very similar to,
Starting point is 00:43:54 I think that works for the show. And I know I fucked up the egg on thing when I tried to make my system quarterback comparison, and it's going to fucking bother me for the rest of my life. So no one has to let me know. I'm going to have dreams of this witch. Just the first thing. Do you not know the fucking King's name?
Starting point is 00:44:11 You fucking, what kind of a new, or they're going to call me like names. I don't even understand. So I understand. I fucked up. Listen, look at Clem right now.
Starting point is 00:44:22 This is a father of two at 11 PM on the East coast. Be on a Sunday night dressed up as a goddamn dragon. You're going to be mad at this guy for a simple name mispronunciation. You're helpless. I can't take the hood off either because then I take the mask off and it kills the illusion and I have this thing on.
Starting point is 00:44:35 I'm cooking right now. We just spent a weekend in the Poconos. I've been hating my family for like a full 72 hours at this point and I'm here talking thrones and I just watched
Starting point is 00:44:43 one of my favorite characters die by a fucking dragon. It's been a tough god but that being said alice rivers we we were on the alice rivers like we sniffed it out mainly the small castle told us um sounds like very cool character does anybody know anything about her but it said today in the subtitles alice is her name a-l-y-s so it her. All that I know about her, it came up in the post credits. There's rumors that she may be hundreds of years old. Melisandre shit?
Starting point is 00:45:11 Could it be? Possibly. I would like that. You can't spell Alice without Melisandre, right? Oh, nice. One thing before we move on from Damon and Eamon that i did also see uh in the behind the scenes last week amon has kept the coins from the rat catchers that like tried to
Starting point is 00:45:32 kill him because he thinks it's like he takes honor in the fact that damon tried to kill and he like you'll see him like playing with it in his hand every now and then so like keep an eye out for that that's the same coin coin that he picked up on the ground. That's good. He was very happy about it. He thinks I'm such a threat, he can't face me. All right. So yeah, keep an eye out for that stuff.
Starting point is 00:45:57 He's very obsessed with Damon. That's like the ring and the wire. It goes with Omar and what's his name? Marlo. Ooh, I like that, that that oh i like that nikki i like that a lot well that's i wasn't even thinking along those that's prophesizing like a duel between the two of them at some point probably at the end of this season whether it's by dragon or by sword something awesome yeah that'd be insane we need by sword we got
Starting point is 00:46:19 to see them them too yeah like i would like that's like a wrestlemania main event right there as your dragons fight in the background boys i think we're writing something pretty awesome let's keep brainstorming we're coming up with some gold right now uh the next couple scenes we pretty much already talked about you know where agon walks out of the meeting and he goes and talks to allison about it but i just wanted to note the king's guard like fumbling over themselves bumping into each other the one guy being like, like with his armor, they're just a bunch of schmucks.
Starting point is 00:46:48 I kind of liked the running bit of them being like complete buffoons this season. But yeah, it might come to a head where like, if someone attacks the castle, they're not going to be much help. No, not at all.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Like they're going to, I tweeted earlier. I was like, who are they going to let, let into the front door? Like these guys have no all like they're gonna i tweeted earlier i was like who are they gonna let let into the front door like these guys have no idea what they're doing they're falling apart and i re-watched the first season last week they went through a lot to pick kristen cole and yes they brought people from all over the realm together and amen was just like my boys get in here. Like, just cause they had like one slot open. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:27 When Kristen joined, they were like, we have one member of the Kings guard that can join. Yeah. And then a gun took over and he's like, I don't know, fucking Jimmy, John,
Starting point is 00:47:36 Luke, and Timmy. And he's like, you guys, we got one more rock, paper, scissors. Like you get to do it.
Starting point is 00:47:42 The other guy can be my, and we'll pick the Virgin so we could go watch him. Fuck. Yeah, paper, scissors. Like, you get to do it. The other guy can be my cupbearer. And we'll pick the virgin so we can go watch him fuck. Yeah. It's true. Then Rhaenyra returns to Dragonstone. This is where everyone is kind of mad. Even her son, Jace, is mouthing off to her. And she says, I needed to know that, you know, the 80 years of peace that I inherited, there was no other way.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Where we were going to have to go to war. If I was ruining that peace, I had to know there was no other way where we were going to have to go to war if i was ruining that piece i had to know there was no other way and they're like let's send a dragon she likes that that idea and she's like well i'm gonna go myself then we get the moment where rainice steps up and volunteers from that moment on you're like uh-oh and even earlier today we found out today is like in canon i don't even know how the calendar is working game of thrones but it's in canon reynise's birthday which wow yeah i don't know if that was i assume it's complete coincidence that this episode came out today but it's crazy that it is coincidence i
Starting point is 00:48:37 likened it to like a wrestler in their hometown always spells disaster it's like you know they're gonna get attacked in their hometown so the crowd is extra mad and the heel gets extra heat killed her on her fucking birthday are we sure that was a real birthday or was that changed by uh the the head writers was that the canon twisted you know they're they're doing that with birthdays these days we don't know it might not be her real birthday if it is she's got the same birthday as ringingo Starr, though, and we're all about peace and love, it seemed. I like that. Birthdays can survive a nerdy content on the internet these days.
Starting point is 00:49:11 That was good. That was very good. I was trying to explain that to somebody earlier today. By the way, like, if someone doesn't understand nerd culture and you try to say Ki-Adi-Mundi to them, just stop.
Starting point is 00:49:27 You're not brave. You're like the penis head guy. They changed his birthday in canon on Wikipedia. People are very upset. My wife started ripping up on the marriage certificate as I was explaining to her. She's like, yeah, this is over. I've dealt with enough of this shit. And then we get this awesome montage before the battle where you see the army is getting ready
Starting point is 00:49:47 they're you know entering formation you see rey nira bringing jace down and telling him the story the song of ice and fire agon's dream and it was just it was almost an excuse to just have her do the exact you know viserys monologue from last season as we got the battle building up and it felt like fucking superhero level like suit up scenes and agon's putting his armor on just making it so awesome the score was also a great shout out i don't know who's doing the score this season but it's been fantastic and the battle begins and you just get right into it it's probably like a 15 20 minute battle at the end of the episode too or at least it felt that long um reynise and her dragon melis or melis melis something like that melis i don't know if i'm pronouncing that right but they're the first
Starting point is 00:50:37 to arrive then agon and sunfire fly on fly in next and like amen looks up at him a little annoyed and kristen cole is shocked he makes a big announcement to his army to try to rally them up your king has joined you let's go you know to battle and it is a fucking clawing you know slobber knocker of a battle especially between the dragons i think someone said it earlier clem i think it was you about the dragons i didn't realize it either i don't really like seeing themm i think it was you about the dragons i didn't realize it either i don't really like seeing them fight i was like really like we gotta see dragons fight we gotta see dragons fight and then one got scratched in the scene and i was like oh man but
Starting point is 00:51:14 the dragons don't know war you know that they're just innocent in this whole thing i felt like tony and pie oh my yeah and like you know these the humans learn to hate each other through the politics and what's said about each other and what has been done these dragons were like homies back in the day they probably were all eating goats and you know learning how to shoot flames yeah they were cool and then it's a go i haven't seen you forever dude wait why are they coming at me why does his teeth why does he have his claws out why is he blowing fire at me and we're fighting it was fucked man i did not i did not enjoy the dance of the dragons
Starting point is 00:51:45 as much as i thought i would and i still thought it was fucking awesome don't get me wrong that's why i'm dressed like a dragon like an asshole but nonetheless like it just i don't know man it was like it's like watching dogs like get into like a fight like on the street you're like yeah no no one's happy right now end this please yeah well also there i think there was the i forget when it was in the scene but when bernice like has a moment where she's looking eye to eye with her dragon as they're flying away and you think that the battle is done and yeah the dragon just looks totally like tired worn out you're missing a horn and you're like oh yeah this this doesn't make you feel so good and then she goes back for more
Starting point is 00:52:23 or is either that or then amon came out of nowhere and came up yeah that might have been it um but that's like that finishing the vagar's finishing move the sneak attack twice now we've been like all right i think everything's all clear fucking vagar comes up and he's the next one to the battle of course the biggest dragon and i love the way they shoot the vagar scenes to show you the scale of how big he actually is in relation to the other ones even when they're saying rainis is the biggest dragon we've got we're sending them oh a dragon in the background making a dragon noise that was that was moon dancer bob's little three-foot dragon oh you found the way to slander Moon Dancer. Do you feel a little silly now defending Moon Dancer after we watched three real dragons fucking perform on the screen today?
Starting point is 00:53:13 I did think, like, thank God they didn't send my dragon out there. Like, we were not ready for that battle. But I was thinking about Vhagar. When he flies in and you see he's got holes in his wings like a pirate ship almost like it looks fucking badass it looks metal at what point do they start doing patchwork on the wings though because those things are like half hollow i always thought about that when drogon would have that during the first game of thrones like yeah you could put some stuff on there like drogon got spears in the wings early on and i feel like it was those holes were there like
Starting point is 00:53:44 vagars have probably been there for hundreds of years you've got to be able to do patchwork if you could like build the harnesses to get on that thing you could put something you could slap a some kind of fabric on there maybe it makes it heavy i don't know kind of makes it scarier they're like this fucking guy survived some shit here i don't even know what can even puncture that thing and it's like i know it's coming at me. Scary times are. And again,
Starting point is 00:54:08 I'm telling you, listen, team green, team black. If you don't think they are, it's fucking awesome. And I love rainy, but like I was,
Starting point is 00:54:15 I was like, stop, just go home. But she had the Danny Glover lethal weapon. Look at her eyes. Like I got to go back. I'm too old for this shit, but you know,
Starting point is 00:54:22 it's my last day. Guys, I made a mistake. I'm getting called out and possibly canceled in the chat right now oh no oh i assumed vagar's gender vagar's a girl oh no oh i called vagar boy i fucked that up i fucked that up that's on me there's a lot of memes where it's making fun of vagar being like an old grandma being like oh are we here to destroy dorn and it's like you're right you're all right vagar like let's let's take you home i've never heard vagar referred to as a girl it's always just vagar but listen i'll tell you right now this is going
Starting point is 00:54:58 to surprise some people who are listening as well it may even surprise some people on the show bluey's a girl no one knows that bluey's a girl. And then when you find out, you're like, really? Bluey's a girl? And then you think back, you're like, oh yeah, they've never said boy or girl. So, yeah, Bob, you assume the gender. It's alright. Happens with Bluey. Happens with Thrones. Everything's fucking... We're learning. We will not make that mistake again.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Bob, promise you will never make that mistake again as long as the show goes on. I never will. I mean, back in the day, I thought Blue from Blue's Clues was a boy. I thought Blue's the boy and magenta's the girl false two girls i thought tweety bird was a boy a girl for a very long time until about like three years ago oh yeah wait wait wait tweety bird tweety bird is a boy i thought it was a girl has very long lashes like me i get the fuck out of here tweetyety Bird is a boy? Yeah, apparently so.
Starting point is 00:55:47 Is this right, guys? It was my grandma's favorite cartoon. I learned that young and that's been a fun fact to ruin people's day. Oh my god. My world has changed. I guarantee no other Thrones podcast is talking about tweety bird right now
Starting point is 00:56:05 we're getting into the battle yeah yeah all right all right enough about tweety bird one of the battle scenes that was fucking crazy is when the dragon gets scratched i think it was uh i think it was rain east's dragon that gets scratched or maybe maybe it's sunfire off the back yeah when it pours blood on the battlefield on top of everyone holy shit that was crazy did that melt a guy i think so it's like acidic blood or something which i guess like because how the fuck is it making a fire it's probably got something that's flammable and like poisonous to people yeah but i i thought someone melted when like that got poured on it was so cool to see because obviously so far in thrones we've only seen just like one dragon in battle or maybe
Starting point is 00:56:52 multiple dragons but they're all on like the same side i guess you get a little bit in the long night with the white walkers and everything in season eight but you don't really get to see two dragons going after each other in the context of a bigger battle and how their destruction then destructs the rest of the battlefield. Like that was so sick to see. And you brought it up with the blood. Like they're not even spewing fire down on the soldiers or anything like that. They're causing damage and stomping on soldiers because they're falling from the sky and they're just clawing at each other and like it was absolute chaos without a whole lot of fire being spewed yet there was still all that damage on the on the ground so that was really cool to
Starting point is 00:57:35 see um when godzilla and kong fight each other it's like most of the falling and rolling around on the skyscrapers is what kills the most people than the actual them knocking shit down the castles yeah yeah they had like the classic godzilla stomping shot too where you would just see the foot of the dragon going through people running away from it some people getting stomped by it i loved that when both dragons went down even seeing how the dragons will fight by basically linking and then just like it's like a fireball it's like one big fireball it's like a cloud of smoke in the sky almost until they go down um really crazy though rainice gives like her attack command basically like she knows this is a suicide mission like the way she says it attacks she she's telling her dragon almost like this is
Starting point is 00:58:23 our last go at it um they link they go down kristen cole blacks out you wake up with that crazy almost saving private ryan like d-day shot of just complete shell shock everywhere people walking around without limbs and shit and then it does look like she's gonna get away for a second fly away vagor comes in fucking bites that neck down chomps it down sad to watch especially the free fall of rainice you know just like going down the way she does and then that is the blackout where you think the episode's gonna end but still you know make you wake up with kristen cole but very sad even though we you know they gave you the warning signs to say that this is coming very sad when she dies when she buckled in i was ready to fucking like join the battle i
Starting point is 00:59:12 was ready to tell me where to run i don't i clearly don't know the name of the place rook's rest is that officially is that what we're going with here yeah i was ready to go to rook's rest on the fucking spot people are saying that the the dragons winded their wings was killing people too and like their blood was like lighting people like like melting them so you're going into that battle but an absolute devastating thing like you said earlier bob when the eye when it loses the uh like life in it it just that's absolute that was brutal yeah that was tough i my question is and it kind of goes back to the whole thing we were talking about with agar and the holes in his wings and everything what exactly is the motive for reynise
Starting point is 00:59:51 here like does she accept the fact that she's not gonna slay this dragon entirely but maybe at the very least she could permanently injure it and that's why she keeps going back like i'm wondering what the the recovery process is for a dragon like are they permanently fucked up for life if they get into one of these scrums with another i don't know and i'm curious to see how that turns out throughout the rest of the show i hope they cover that because yeah otherwise i'm like why renee's like just leave like you've done you've done what you need to do why keep going back in? I don't know if yes, she's really trying to just like permanently damage the biggest asset of team green. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:30 I don't know because Vagar is fucking sick. Also the shot. I don't think we talked about it. The shot where they reveal that he was hiding there and they like, yeah, my jaw dropped. I was like, Oh my God,
Starting point is 01:00:43 we're going to get fake. And, and Amon's like quieting him down like not now not now like just wait just wait that was insane awesome those horns i was like oh no not my girl they keep blowing the horns and i was like fuck and you know you know at some point agon's coming because he's drinking and he's getting his suit on and everything and i'm like maybe he's just gonna be like let's let agon die and i'll deal with this another day and yeah that was a great call, man.
Starting point is 01:01:05 The way they shot that was awesome with the arrows going up. And then Cole's like, send the fucking message again. We need the big dragon to come here. I said, Aegon was fucking, it was Aegon was being Leroy Jenkins, man. He's just running into battle and just getting his tits lit up. Yeah. And one of the biggest factors of this whole battle battle and the thing that we haven't mentioned yet the big twist is amon comes in and immediately hits his brother agon with the dracarys and he
Starting point is 01:01:31 obviously was upset about being called out in front of his girl last week clem's favorite and he just fucking let it rip here he hit the dracarys dragon goes down in the forest again when the when it first went down and we don't see it, my instinct went to, all right, he's probably alive, and we're probably going to follow up on this later. But we had people, you know, going towards him. I think Kristen Cole immediately tried to get to him before he got knocked out. When he wakes up on the battlefield in shell shock, he's, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:01 shell shock is the only term you could use to describe it. Walking around aimlessly, holding his helmet, kind of stumbles into where the dragon crash landed and walks in on Aemond taking the sword out of the out of the holder sheath. Is that what it's called? Sword out of the sheath. I know Clem isn't a Last Jedi guy, but because Connor Griffin happy to have the last jedi fan on the podcast here i mean a lot of vibes of general hucks walking up on kylo ren and being like uh i'm about to fucking do it and then it's like oh he can't exactly oh obviously general hucks was a bitch and is the man uh yes i i totally get it, because on top of the fact that they now have this rivalry and a gone as a drunk,
Starting point is 01:02:48 who's making fun of them. Eamon has been putting together a really good war strategy. Obviously, maybe he should be filling his brother in on it, but like Eamon and Cole, like they have this on lock. And now Cole, obviously he's a little bit all over the place mentally but they had a
Starting point is 01:03:06 solid plan it worked and here comes agon fucking with it and it's going to continue to be a trend as long as he's alive where agon is going to have this this feeling where he's got to prove himself and even though he's a fool and he's weak and he's an idiot he's gonna keep interfering with this stuff and i think amon just got tired of it and said no i'm just gonna kill him uh but of course yeah chris and cole stumbles in stops him but uh you know he came very close there for a second i i thought i mean go ahead sorry sorry to cut you off did cole stall what he did in the sky right like i don't know there where cole walks in and is is amand almost like do i have to fucking kill this guy for for evidence like i don't that that dynamic
Starting point is 01:03:51 interested me because he he did it obviously the battle was going on they were preoccupied but he he did it in front of everybody but he was he was with the dragons the other dragons are fighting right rain is yeah he'd be like i I was shooting Reynis's dragon. I wasn't, I didn't mean to kill my brother, even though obviously that was the goal. Yeah. I think they were too close in proximity. It was kind of like, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:13 the classic scene where somebody's holding somebody at gunpoint and then there's somebody else on the opposite side, like, Oh, do I shoot the person or what do I do? I think it was like that name was like, yeah, fuck it. I'm just going to spew some fire on him. And yeah, we know. Yeah. Yeah. We know that he was trying, he was like yeah fuck it i'm just gonna spew some fire on him and uh yeah we know yeah yeah we know that he was trying he was like i don't care if my brother dies but i think if you're a spectator on the ground you could chalk it up and say oh yeah he was just trying to go after rainis and amen or part of me agon happened to be like right next
Starting point is 01:04:37 to her but whatever i think he's gonna probably spin it he's gonna be like i thought you were already gone like your dragon was done like It was shredded. I had to just take out their biggest dragon. Although, I did also realize we still have Vermithor, which is an even bigger dragon. On Team Black?
Starting point is 01:04:57 That's the one that Damon was singing to last year. We haven't seen it, heard anything about it since so i mean he's still cooking up his own shit um but that's still just like in a mountain somewhere hanging out that was uh that was the the king before uh i believe the king before the sarish just saris harris harris that was his dragon uh yeah so he's still just hanging out i'm gonna pop up at the end of the season yeah um and yeah we see agon lying there he christian calls like where's
Starting point is 01:05:34 the king where's his lord his grace whatever and amand is like right there and he walks away from and he looks dead i don't think he's dead but amazing episode the best episode of this season i think pretty easily just based on like kevin said at the beginning of this episode it truly had a little bit of everything that makes game of thrones in this universe so great and it's what we love about it had the action had the backstabbing had the shock had the death of you know a major character where they remind you that this show really does have stakes um and i feel like it sets up for a great second half of the season nobody has seen the second half of the season so like up to this
Starting point is 01:06:13 point i guess reviewers have the screeners oh wow and the rest of it is you know gonna be sunday night nobody's gonna know what's hitting them and i'm very excited we got four more episodes left this season right it's eight episodes yep yeah good yeah exciting stuff i i have i saw it too like twitter where there was a lot of like tonight better deliver i'd better get some dragons i better get this i better get that and i somebody has to die yes exactly the fan base should be fucking satisfied after tonight like the little blood thirst little fire thirst i've all been quenched and now we can you know deal with the fallout which i mean it's not like oh we just had a dragon fight let's just all go our separate ways and fight some land battles it's going to be probably more dragons more reckless shit coming up so i'm pretty fucking excited the rest of the
Starting point is 01:06:56 season lvp mvp for the episode mvp lvp yeah i mean mvp are we unanimous in the mvp this episode gotta ask the keenen Green guy. I don't know if he's going to give his vote. Who's your MVP this episode? Let's start with the guest. It's between Rainice or Eamon. I'll go Rainice. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:17 Then I think we're unanimous. It's Rainice, right? Rainice. You got to give it to her. That was an awesome performance. Even her death, that was such performance even her like her death like that was such a great like the look on her face where she's just like all right we ride it out now and also what this turns corliss into it's going to be awesome i saw a still of him in armor
Starting point is 01:07:37 with a sword where he looks like the most badass dude in the world um very excited for that like again sorry i said it last week. Thought this was going to happen. It kind of seemed like we were going this way. And Thrones is kind of conditioning me to, like, if someone's being awesome, like, we're probably going to lose them. But what that's going to bring out of Rhaenyra and Corlys is going to be, like, unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:08:03 You know how fucked Thrones is. As soon as she fell out of the sky and the dragon exploded i said thank god because i'm like what are they going to do to her dead body after they do with my beloved rob stark's body and they sold the wolf to his fucking corpse and i was like just don't do anything to her dead body that's what i'm thinking about watching a tv show that's not healthy we are not watching a healthy universe right now. So MVP across the board, we're getting Clean Sweep Rainies. I might argue with that.
Starting point is 01:08:29 And then LVP. Oh, go ahead, Connor. I was just going to add to that. Robb Stark makes my top five Game of Thrones characters list. I was a big Robb Stark guy. I loved Robb. So what do we have? Robb and Jorah so far? Or do we have Robb and Jorah? We got to get the five before we decide.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Oh, and Tyrion, right? Tyrion. Tyrion. Yeah, Tyrion. Yeah. Yeah. Who's Tormund maybe? Oh, and then the Hound.
Starting point is 01:08:52 Love the Hound. Oh, the Hound is great. That's awesome. Yeah. LVP, I don't know. Tough life. Thank you. Someone in the chat said LVP should be Tully's old ass but he wasn't in the episode.
Starting point is 01:09:05 You just referenced him. I could say Tully's young ass. The fucking kid they sent to represent him was kind of an LVP. All of Sesame Street, LVP. Yeah. Agon, probably, just because he's a twerp and was ruining everything.
Starting point is 01:09:23 But that's... He had some good scenes like i know it's tough like with lvp like do you root for like like who would get it but he did have some like he's very entertaining this season i feel like it's way more entertaining this season than last when he just hit our room at the small council with you bore me like yeah yeah that was awesome although also one thing i forgot to mention we did get like white worm uh scheming she was she was oh yeah listening in on things this week so i wanted to note that because i'm sure that's gonna you know be followed up on next week or the week after something also
Starting point is 01:09:57 we can touch on in this small council scene they're all talking about like he's bankrupting them completely it seems like and one of the things they brought up again was the armor and the armor is that random guy that we saw in episode two that oh yeah uh like we had a full scene with him where he's like no the money's coming the king said he's gonna give me money and he's the one to make the scorpions that's who we need to start paying for Team Black. Let's just give that guy some money. He'll stop working for them. Start working for us.
Starting point is 01:10:30 Let's go find him. I like that. LVP, I'm not going to vote for him. I'm just going to put his name. I have to do it, Nick. I'm sorry. Damon is just sitting around Harrah Hall having fucking dreams while rainis is fighting
Starting point is 01:10:46 dragons and fucking yeah i have to throw it out there i i honestly hadn't thought about that but like now that you say it he's ruining every single chance at an alliance that we have he is just insulting everyone not paying attention in conversations he was kind of drugged but you know uh but like he he pretty much said like go kill lord tully and it's like no you need that guy like what are we what are we doing here like is the way he's talking to everyone i'm like i don't think you're gonna bring he's not the guy to send out to bring people on his side and it seems like he's just getting more unhinged clem that funny when he was drugged. Yeah. He's probably LVP. You're right.
Starting point is 01:11:29 I think that's... I'm going to officially vote he is my LVP for the episode, which kills me, but he's not doing much right now. Oh my God. Someone in the chat's pissed about that, Clem. Someone wrote, relax, Clem, you bitch. He needs the army, not the Lord. He needs the army. Gumby 25.
Starting point is 01:11:46 Fuck you, Gumby. What has he done? He's just sitting dreaming. He could be a fucking blogger at Barstool doing that. He's taking Harrenhal at this point. He's got it. What's he doing there now? Is he going to tell the people I'm still working on it?
Starting point is 01:12:02 He secured the deal. They bow down to him and everything. Everybody who gets gets harrenhal dies basically right isn't that it's cursed you're fucked and yeah i do all right do you think we even see damon leave harrenhal or is he just gonna die there at this point i'm feeling like there's like an outside it would be so anticlimactic that's the only reason i think it won't happen unless like yeah i think it's gonna be the aim and damon showdown at some point i think amen might just go and fly and meet him there like this little bitch just keeps dreaming all day i'm just gonna put him out of his misery and i again i'm getting fucking very
Starting point is 01:12:34 angry right now think about this rainies she goes in with her old ass dragon keeps fighting vagar i'm telling you i can't i don't have like the actual proof of this i feel like vagar struggles with against dragons with long necks. Who has the longest neck dragon in the fucking Seven Kingdoms? Daemon. The guy sleeping his fucking life away in Harrenhal. He just got told he's going to die at Harrenhal by a witch, too. Yeah, and then he drank her potion after she said that.
Starting point is 01:12:59 The dumbest... I'm very close to being out on Daemon, Nick. We've been through hell together. I'm starting to get mad since Walt Reynos died yeah you could have at least said I have Harrenhal like let's start
Starting point is 01:13:13 gathering some people here he's just he's like mad at his girlfriend and doesn't want to talk to her it's fucking weird he held a meeting with that incel too that was like oh like you know i was almost the fucking king like the way he was like you know once back in the day me and raynera and he was like oh really like the look he gave me was
Starting point is 01:13:36 like really you someone in the chat just gave me it's about to get a job as a brick watch salesman. All right. That was house of the dragon season two, episode four with Robbie Fox, Nick Hamilton, KFC, Clem, and special guests,
Starting point is 01:13:56 Connor Griffin, Connor, thank you for joining us. So last minute, it was a pleasure to have you on the show, even though you are a team green guy, I felt like you represented. Well, thank you i
Starting point is 01:14:05 love the programming i watch every single week it was a pleasure to join especially after i tweeted this i think that was one of the best episodes in all of thrones in general i think it's definitely the best of season i think it's definitely the best that we've gotten in this show and yeah i'd have to go back to game of thrones so to be on this show with you guys after that big of an episode, absolute pleasure. So thank you so much for having me. Awesome. All right, we will be back next Sunday night.
Starting point is 01:14:33 Of course, come back to the same channels, My Mom's Basement channels to watch or listen. We'll also be on the Game of Stools stuff and we'll see you then. Hopefully less death, hopefully not as many dead babies. Like, subscribe, share, comment, all that good stuff. Connor's in Harrenhal right now.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Yeah.

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