My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 366 - THE ACOLYTE EPISODES 6/7

Episode Date: July 11, 2024

Robbie and Clem return after a week off to recap #TheAcolyte Episodes 6 and 7 - where it felt like a shockingly little amount happened! Osha and Mae had their brief 'Parent Trap' and we kinda found out what really happened with Sol and the Witches on Brendok, but it seems like there's still a lot to tie up in the finale next week. #StarWars Gametime: Download the Gametime app or go to https://gametime.co, enter your email, and redeem code MMB for $20 off your first purchase (terms apply). **************************************** My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike! Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome back to My Mom's Basement. After a week off, it is myself, Robbie Fox, and Clem, and we are happy to be back to recap The Acolyte. We're going to do last week's episode that we didn't recap, as well as this week's episode. I will say it will probably be shorter on the recaps than usual because not a whole lot has happened, you know, like in both episodes. I mean, we'll get into all of that. Clem, how are we feeling? Bob, there's some times when we do this job, this dream job that we have, where I'm like, all right, that probably was a little excessive.

And I think ending and not even having our holiday break but I think an episode for last week's episode of the acolyte if it was just in the middle of the regular work week would have felt like a lot we would have had to find some filler to go around it so I think it kind of worked out perfectly good to be back in the basement though I mean we're back in the basement every Sunday for House of the Dragon recaps, obviously. And we have a lot of stuff coming down the pipe. But, yeah, I think we did it right. We did it right.

You know, and back in the basement. Check out those House of the Dragon recaps that we've been doing along with Kevin. We had Connor Griffin on this week. Nick Hamilton, as always. They're very fun to do. And this season has been awesome. So if you're not into House of the Dragon dragon i really think it's worth getting into like dive down into the basement do a deep dive and watch the whole season one binge it watch season two get in the basement for the recaps we dress up for him clem's got different costumes every week uh they are one of my favorite things that

we do i think they're a blast rob Robbie looks like a sexy little minx in his blog. Also, a big announcement for The Basement. A huge announcement. Also, if you're a wrestling fan, I did an episode with Jared Karabas. So check that out from the top rope back as always. But a huge announcement for The Basement. We have been given the invite to the Deadpool and Wolverine world premiere in New York city.

It's the Monday before the movie comes out, we will be seeing it. So as soon as you guys see Deadpool and Wolverine on premiere night, when you get back in your car, you'll have a podcast ready to rip for the commute home. And the last time we did this baby was for quantum mania. So hopefully we know where the floor is for this. Yeah we did this, baby, was for Quantumania. Shit. So hopefully we know where the floor is for this.

Yeah. We were so excited. We're like, we're going to have the pod ready for them. And then we're like, but I told Ryan Reynolds said, this is the best movie he's ever done, which again, could just be him literally saying, I'm just going to say this so you can put it out to get everyone excited. This is the best movie I've ever done still gives me all the hope our boy uh who's the guy who wrote

the um x-men movies that we love matthew vaughn matthew vaughn our god and savior himself what was his name i can't remember so as long as he said it's good that's all i care about also a little bit very exciting another programming note that i think we should bring up just kind of uh going back to the acolyte and every week along with some Marvel stuff. I think we should just, I haven't talked about this. I'm kind of looking to hear your thoughts.

Agatha after the trailer, I think we can maybe do a post season recap of it all. If like after two episodes are like, holy shit, this is the best TV show I've ever seen. Maybe then we dive in and do some quick hitters or even throw it in an episode. I don't,

I don't think we need to do the weeklies for that. Is that, is that, uh, agreed on your end? I think I agree with that. And I hope the listeners are cool with that because I watched that trailer and I wasn't super like disappointed in the trailer,

but the first half of it with Agatha kind of the fallout of Wanda vision, Aubrey Plaza in the, the morgue room, like that was all pretty cool. And I was like, all right, this seems like it's going to be a cool kind of horror Halloween show. It's hitting at Halloween time, end of September into October. And then the second half of the trailer with her and the kids felt so like Disney Channel original movie. You know, what was that movie with the rock where he took the kids to like race to the witch mountain yes you remember that like it felt like that a little bit too much where i was like oh i hope this isn't like cheaper by the dozen and which

terms or whatever so yeah i think as of right now we might plan to just recap the season of that all together instead of doing a week-by-week breakdown. And we'll think of more fun things to do around that time as well because the Penguin is going to be hitting in September. I would probably rather break that show down. We're going to have the Joker coming out in October, Joker 2. We're going to have Caped Crusader, the new Batman cartoon, coming out in August. I don't know if we'll do week-by-week recaps of that. I i assume not but we'll do you know an end of season recap for that as well we got a lot of fun nerd stuff coming up still you know in the horizon is that in the horizon that's the horizon

i think that's fair to say we're forward you're very good bobby i love when we try to figure out like third grade words and we like yeah grade words and we talk through it. I think I read somewhere that Penguin comes out the day after Agatha. Is that true? That would line up. I think that would make sense. Yeah. Which like I kind of want it to be a head to head.

And I'll tell you right now, based on the trailers, DC's ahead right now. Way ahead. Way ahead ahead the trailer for penguin looks like the greatest show i've ever seen in my entire life and there's rumors that pattinson was on set maybe batman is even in the show for an episode or two probably shows up at the finale i love i think i mentioned it on the podcast before that but there was a tweet when the trailer came out that was like this show is gonna you know showcase the empire of the penguin and oswald cobble pop building up to this huge kingpin level and then batman's just gonna come beat the piss out of him at the end by the way that like stretch you discussed with penguin the uh joker and then the uh cartoon that is bob fox like mania right there which by the way bob fox mania was yesterday happy birthday bob 26 years young that's once you hit 27 bob i'm gonna feel extra old because

i remember you were just a little pup in the barstool office which seven years ago now give or take it'll be eight in october jesus christ yeah pretty crazy i'm in my late 20s now everyone was saying like late 20s you're basically 40 So, you know, my age is finally matching my personality, I guess. I did last night, like my girlfriend was like, what do you want to do? And I was like, I want to play some Spider-Man video games. I did that. She got me the cables for Rocksmith, which I don't know if you've heard of it. It's like Guitar Hero, but you play with your real instrument. It's crazy. Oh, that's incredible. I was playing Chris Daughtry. I'm going home. It was great.

And then I wanted to just end the night by watching Empire Strikes Back. And I didn't know. Usually I like watching one of my favorite movies on my birthday. I didn't know which one I would want to watch, whether it be Empire Strikes Back or The Dark Knight. Depending on the day, I'm going to go back and forth. After watching The Acolyte, I wasn't so down on it. I wasn't like that was the worst thing I've ever seen. But I was just like, I would like to end my day with some good Star Wars, some great Star Wars, even the best Star Wars that there's ever been. And I had a great time. I fell asleep. Like the last thing I remember was Yoda lifting the X-Wing out of the water, out of the swamp. And it was like the most peaceful,

greatest music crescendo. I could have fallen asleep to it. I felt like it, it was like dandelions and gumdrops dancing in my head or whatever they say. And, uh, towards the night before Christmas, but yeah, it was,

it was perfect birthday chill birthday that's a beautiful thing a nice like empire to end the night it's like a nice big piece of your favorite birthday cake right there so perfectly and i fell asleep before luke got his hand cut off before han got frozen in the carbonite like for all i knew last night you know my dream world it was like oh the heroes are gonna win everything's gravy that's how everyone knows empire is the the the upper original service trilogy all right so let's get into the accolade we got two episodes to recap the first of which being episode six it was uh teach slash corrupt but i'm gonna call it the parent trap episode. We ended, you know, the, the one before

with them pulling the parent trap. And this is the one where it kind of plays out. Uh, it begins with OSHA waking up on this mystery planet. And a lot of people were saying, is it Octo? It kind of looks like Octo, Octu, Hawk to us, something like that. Um, I don't think it is. Some people are saying though, it might be this planet Baldemnik. And they wouldn't say that. You know, they say in every location, they'll say the name of the planet, but this one is just mystery. They wouldn't say it, maybe, because that one plays heavily into the Plagueis story. Darth Plagueis realized this planet had large riches of cortosis, that metal that Chimera is using.

So we saw cortosis in this episode. It is an ocean planet with this kind of rocky structure. Could be a thing there. Could be something to keep an eye on. I know I brought up the Knights of Ren early on in this podcast, and they did use Kylo Ren's theme in episode five. So maybe I was onto something there, but I think right now, like Knights of Ren and dorth plagues are at even odds i would say yep that's fair fair with their list in vegas right now i also loved if it was just named the mystery planet and they're like shit mystery planet oh yeah yeah that in the uh there has to be a reason right you would just give it a dumb name if it was just a dumb planet and you

know what system that's in mystery planet uh lando system lando there is a lando system there actually is one is there no but you're gonna say parts unknown like you bring it to wwe like you just want something to be more interesting yeah mystery planet hailing from mystery planet uh and there were some last jedi vibes here i know i don't mean to bring it up every podcast but when you see chimera just get naked and go for a swim i was like oh this is a bit of ben suolo happening here on octo but yeah he goes he goes for a naked swim and we see this nasty scar on his back that has kind of like a snake type design it's curved scar and he implies that he got it from someone that abandoned him threw him to the side so you're like former master jedi lightsaber but it's a weird scar

that to me looks like it was given by a light whip and i know i'm not the first to have that theory a lot of people are saying the same thing but it's even why would you put a light whip in the show if there wasn't a purpose for it? Because they haven't. It's not like Vernestra has been fucking Indiana Jones with that thing. Like we saw it. Maybe one quick scene, which I'm also grateful about, because like I said, I feel like that's the sort of thing that people that hate the acolyte would never shut the fuck up about. Yeah.

What do they call it when they introduced a gun and it's going to be used? It's a literary device. Checkoff. It lightsaber web that came out we have the clues there and we have by the way one episode left which is wild yeah yeah yeah can we just say this can we just say this i think was the last one we, the one with Ken Jack with the lightsaber fight. That, unless next week is fucking awesome, that will be the high point of the season. I almost texted you that this morning. Like, word for word, I almost said, like, it seems like that was probably the peak. Like, we went up, and then we're kind of going down. I hope the finale is a little, you know, bump up from the penultimate.

But we'll recap the penultimate it did not feel like a penultimate at all no no it most certainly did not what was the name of the um the padawan that got killed jackie right jackie yeah that was x23 somebody said her wikipedia entry was the um lightsaber going through her back but it was not that would have been hilarious if that was like the main entry this is just jackie it's just a fucking the old triple box something about that i actually meant to bring up on this podcast mt from the heavy spoiler show did a breakdown of the acolyte and he pointed out that uh when when he killed jackie it was like a triangle it was like boom, boom, boom.

And there's triangles all over the witch's coven, like everywhere they have triangles. So it might be a hint that is, you know, Mother Coral or whatever. Is that his mom? Did she try to create someone, banish him to the side because he was too into the dark side? And then they figured out Osha and May. That's also something to keep an eye on. i think he could have a relation to the witch's coven obviously in the penultimate mother coral very sus but another question i have about kymere is he old as fuck because in this episode that we're recapping now the one where he goes for

the swim he says like oh that was a very long time ago. And he could just be, you know, exaggerating like we do on this podcast. But he said it in a way where I was almost like, ooh, is he actually not as young as he looks? Is he the old witch from Snow White and he's going to fucking turn into an old hag all of a sudden? Like, that would be kind of an interesting twist for him. I mean, Darth Blade just has the fucking the fucking you know live forever mangle out there at this point might be a little more fresher all that kind of magic so i can see that oh boy oh confirmed sith for those watching on confirmed darth plague is live forever right on the collarbone tattooed yeah sus that's us can't deny You're sus. You are sus. I will say this, though, and this kind of is good if you're going down that path.

Every episode, I just more and more like the Sith. I don't know if it's I like the Sith more or hate the Jedi more, but the way Kamiya was spitting, I'm like, yeah, man, you raised some very valid points. Where the old Vader Emperor, they made it like evil bad and that's granted the way life was in the 70s and 80s and movies and stuff now they're mixing a lot more gray in so i appreciate that and credit to this guy the first few episodes when we kind of were able to tell like oh this bumbling idiot is going to be the sith lord i was kind of like i hope he's not like it seems obvious but i hope he's not like, it seems obvious, but I hope he's not. Cause this is just stupid. This, this guy's an idiot. I really like him now. Like when

he's not acting like, you know, shop owner, idiot, that's just trying to get the acolyte along on her journey to the boss. I'm like, this guy's kind of fucking cool. Maybe it was last year, you know, when we did with Ken Jack two weeks ago, that just now has put him in this upper echelon for me where he's slicing and dicing and killing and he's jacked and he's got a cool helmet but yeah i think he's actually a pretty cool sith lord or i don't know if he is whatever he is good acting i i like everything about him i like i like i think it's like him and saul are like a cut above everyone else for me so i don't even know who else is even in the mix like even our boy kalnaki or whatever the uh wookiee it's like it's awesome wookiee jedi but that character only can

do so much on screen and like all the other jedi i either hate them or i kind of dislike them the witches don't even start on the witches right now so there's a lot of people i don't like in the show saul and chimera are by far my two favorite people i honestly can care less about the twins too i can honestly also the the like official lucasfilm name they're giving the sith lord for now pretty cool they're calling him the stranger which is a little scary like he has like horror vibes and stuff like i feel like when they tried to put the child for baby Yoda or Grogu, we were all kind of like,

we're not calling them the child. When I heard the stranger, I was like, Ooh, that's kind of fucking cool. Let me see if I can get this here. I don't know how it's going to come out on the mic. Little Billy Joel for you.

The stranger. It came through. I can hear it on the mic. That was good enough. AJ learned how to whistle. He's a fucking kindergartner. He learned how to whistle. It's the most amazing thing.

He just whistles all the time, though. It's awesome. I love whistling. I am a great whistler. I love whistling. It's one of my favorite things in the world. I think Frankie Borelli claims to be the best whistler at bar school. He is.

He's really good. Don't worry. You're pretty here. Frankie Borelli claims to be like the best whistler at bar school. There was going to be a whistle on the one point, I believe. We'll see. Don't worry. You're pretty here. I'm just saying if money is placed, throw a couple bucks on this guy. Okay. Okay.

Kaimir actually kind of seems like he's pulling Osha to the dark side in this episode. Like he gets her to put the helmet on and we get the first person like her putting it on. I'm like, oh, shit. He explains the helmet being a blind helmet too which is the jedi padawan thing and i like the thought of that but it is like you're just putting on a blind ass helmet blinding yourself like eventually when you die you're gonna wish you were able to see definitely uh what's the word i'm using pride is before the fall or whatever that feels i i just pulled a fucking legit saying out there on the fly. I don't think I screwed it up either.

I thought that was pretty bad. I'm like, he waxed all those Jedi. I'd not even be able to see them. Pride made the Force stronger. So, like, again, point Kaimir. Point Kaimir. This guy is just acting them up. It is Monstars in the first half against the Toon Squad.

He is just making me like – and the fact that she just tries it on, I'm like, what are we doing here? Are you looking to become a Sith Lord? Because throwing on the mask feels like that's like one step away from just making a red lightsaber. And that's more or less their entire storyline for this episode. Like this episode really felt like the first half of an episode that was supposed to continue when credits rolled and the other storyline you get is may and soul going back to the jedi she's always kind of like trying to backstab him but he's like oh take control of the ship or do this or grab that she grabs pip at one point and then basil gets onto her yeah and they make the pip the light goes from

white to red when it's like being controlled by her i was like oh of course it's like c-3po with the red eyes the factory reset button that was not cool that was not cool um eventually with the help of basil he's able to catch her and hit her with the stun by the end of the episode they also reveal like and i i'm just mentioning this because I think it'll be played later. Vernestra can like see visions of the future when they go through light speed because they're like, oh, like, let's go through light speed. Like, I hope you don't get sick. And she's like, I don't get sick. I just get like unsettled.

And apparently it's from the High Republic books. Shout out to the Heavy Spoilers show for pointing this out that she can see like whenever she goes through hyperspace she gets little visions of the future maybe why she's also so worried about this she's like oh fuck we better shut this down because i'm getting visions of the sith coming back there's a problem there okay okay that makes sense i had no clue about that so yeah again not much happens in this whole episode though that's kind of like the whole recap and part of the reason why me and clem were going back and forth till we do a recap fourth of the reason why me and Clem were going back and forth, do we do a recap 4th of July week? We were both like away with family and are we scrambling to do it?

And this episode didn't feel worthy of it really. It would have been a 15-minute episode. And it's like, do we really want to do a 15-minute episode? And then I'm just griping like an old, I didn't want to become the old man. I don't want to be yelling about Star Wars. We've already gone over that bridge enough times. This has been a consistent issue we've had, though, where it's like the pacing's off or it feels like two episodes could have been made one. Also, at the same time, though, I'm also the guy that's like I like seeing 32 minutes instead of an hour.

So it's like I really can't get on them too much if it was maybe a binge where they're all released at once or maybe have two episodes released the same night it would alleviate that so it kind of feels like it's continuous but at the same time whatever who cares like we got over it we're fine they're not worried about the recap shows when they're making these no no but how many episodes of the mandalorian were 30 minutes that we loved season one especially where it left us being like you can't do the 30 minute episodes we need more they you know left us asking for more and or had a couple shorter episodes that were great you just got to use that time more wisely like it's almost impressive that they're able to fill up 30 minutes and feature very little character development, very little scenes that you would want to go back and rewatch like that one

episode, episode five, I would go back and rewatch that in 20 minutes. Like that in a heartbeat. If someone said, do you want to watch that lightsaber battle again? Fuck yeah. I want to watch the stranger slicing and dicing in the forest. This one, if someone said, do you want to rewatch it? I would be like, you got to remind me what happened there. And I just recapped it for 20 minutes. Yeah, yeah, I'm with you a hundred percent.

It's again, I don't know whose fault it is. I'm, I'm just along for the ride at this point. All right. Before we get into the penultimate episode, episode seven, let's tell everyone about game time yet again. I actually used Game Time kind of. I was given tickets on the Yak to Alanis Morissette this past week, and they were purchased through Game Time. I was able to go.

It was a hell of a show. She tore the house down. I don't want to disrespect Alanis by this, but I was shocked by how sold out it was. When you go to an amphitheater show and the lawn can just fill up, the lawn was like an ocean of people. You couldn't see any grass. It was just people. But fantastic, fantastic show. Alanis is the frigging queen.

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nights alone i've gone to concerts alone i've gone to movies alone i don't think i've ever done a sport alone but i i wouldn't be opposed i would do that yeah i actually buy yourself a single ticket i went to wrigley field by myself because it was like everyone like that day we had to do our snack boys which watch snack boys uh twitter new series from clem whatever my baby me and eddie just eating. And I got there. It was like the third inning. We were still recording. I was like, fuck it. I'll just get a ticket for cheap.

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Well, you're not even, I was going to say Harry Potter day or something, but you're not even a Harry Potter guy, are you? I'm not. I watched all the movies for the first time in the past year or two. I had seen the first one. I had seen the second one. I think I had seen maybe i probably saw like the first four and then fell off at some point uh and then my girlfriend was like oh i think you'd probably like them let's go through the whole series and she was definitely right they were great movies especially by the end

like it's very similar to like a superhero movie and almost like the battle's happening and the character is returning and you don't know who's dead and who's coming back from the dead. It was great. Great stuff. Beautiful. All right. Let's recap the penultimate episode.

Now this one was titled choice. And as soon as I saw the episode title, I realized it was going to be a flashback. And half of me was like, all right, we're going to find out what happened. The other half of me was like, oh, we didn't like the flashback episode last time. And they're probably going to do the whole episode in a flashback. And that's exactly what they did here. In the episode description, it also said like the truth is revealed. It said something like reveal was in the description. So I was like, all right, we're getting answers. We're going to figure out what happened. Final episode of battle. I know we got some answers in this episode. We did not get enough answers for my liking in terms of like, I ended it and I was like, oh, the whole story that we were waiting to see the other side of happened pretty much like we saw in episode three just there were a few changes here and

there like the soul moment and anisea that that was a big moment but like everything else was pretty much like we figured okay because i wanted to make sure that was the case i'm like this is what we all thought was gonna what had happened and uh we thought we were gonna find something like oh well that is why you know everything went awry that was something we didn't see not pretty much by the by the book so yeah murder like mystery show that's i gotta take like a point off like in terms of execution there kind of like there better be some more mystery in in eight but like even if there is more mystery in eight it's like why frame this is the review i don't know let's just get into it because we and listen i'm just

gonna make this this uh plea now in eight just wrap everything up don't leave like if you have to do stuff where it's like there might be something with the sith or with this that like that is more originy that's fine fine. Like, don't be like, maybe there's another season because I'm not going to watch. Yeah. Again, again, I don't think this show and even these two episodes are nearly as bad as the biggest detractors will make them out to be. It's not unwatchable. It's just these two episodes, I would give maybe like a 3 out of 10 where it's like it's just good enough to make me continue watching and not be like actively mad at it. But it's just – it's kind of nothing, these two episodes. Is it too extreme to call it like Chef Boyardee?

Is that being too mean to Chef Boyardee? Where it's like I'm hungry. It might be mean to Chef Boyardee, yeah. Yeah, SpaghettiOs? Is that being too mean to Chef Boyardee? Where it's like, I'm hungry, I really need something. It might be mean to Chef Boyardee, yeah. Yeah, SpaghettiOs? Is that, like, SpaghettiOs are good as good? I like SpaghettiOs, but yeah, like, that might be what they are. Yeah, I like SpaghettiOs. I'm defending it by going, I like SpaghettiOs, but I under, it's the same thing.

I like Star Wars, but I, you know, like. My guy, Bob, just fighting fucking, he's the last guy with his lightsaber just fighting trying to keep it going when's the last time you've had spaghettios like uh like a year or two ago okay okay yeah because i remember two years definitely like in the last year yeah probably in my mid-20s i had him for the first time in years i was like that sauce is way too sweet that's basically pure sugar. It's really sweet. I like the ones with the meatballs.

I feel like the meatballs even out the sweetness of the sauce. But yeah, I am a SpaghettiOs person. My sister is too. Shout out my sister. This is not SpaghettiOs later, by the way. I don't want anyone to think it's SpaghettiOs later. But we all know what SpaghettiOs are. Come on.

Exactly. Yeah. So we see 16 years ago on brendock the jedi are on this mission combing for any signs of life they have a fucking like metal detector that you would bring to the beach and they're looking for life as this planet had no life 100 years prior so they they're like, there's got to be something going on here. They're looking for the presence of a force of virgins. And Torben, oh my god, he has a bad episode. He's being such a bitch about this mission. He just wants to go back home. I want to go back to Coruscant. I'm tired of eating the noodles. They have to explain to him, hey, buddy, it's not about what you want you're basically a intern on this trip then you're lucky to be here we're looking for a virgins in the force which could be a historic

huge important thing in the entire galaxy he is the worst in this episode good casting to cast like an incredibly hateable game of thrones character as this incredibly hateable jedi but yeah just a bad episode for him king tom it was not hated bob he was like you almost felt bad for him i mean the guy i didn't like him i knew i know he wasn't the like it wasn't his fault he was just cersei's puppet and obviously his brother was way worse but like he sucked do you remember his cat sir pounds i'm not a cat guy but yeah i'm not a cat guy either it's a good name for a cat but yeah like this this character is much worse than tommy ever was i'm not going to defend tommy either like you said kind of a bitch you're just like he gets to bang marjorie like that's such bullshit uh but this guy absolute bits also

i'm happy they will let him say m count we're just like yeah so i was happy he kind of he was probably uh in my in my like i've decided my canon he was like trained by the yord like two just absolute losers zeros or no yorda is way younger right because by the time yorda's around uh they put the party city beard or he okay so then he trained yord like like that kind of like zero loser fun sponginess has to like those two stood out like sore thumbs compared to the rest of the crew i thought the green green chick too as well, but she's a different kind of stinks. She's like the top of the York chart stink. She's just annoying because of her position, I think, more than anything.

Yeah. So they're spying on the whole witch coven. And they, you know, soul spots the girls talking to mother coral in the in the forest and they did a good job of showing a very skewed perspective of what's going on like where a lot of people were criticizing the acolyte for being like why are you saying the jedi are the cause of their own failure and the jedi are bad guys all of a sudden it's like well that's kind of what george was getting at in the prequels but they're not just like they're not blatantly like dumb or like mean they are seeing things from the wrong perspective here it seems like they're being a lot more angry with the girls it seems like they're

being a lot more um not that they're slaves the girls but they're like they're servants almost from soul's perspective where he's like do they want to be here do they are they okay with all of this even when they bring him on the ship for training later he's kind of and and the jedi are kind of saying like is this something that was like in indoctrinated is that oh god that was i went for that i'm gonna roll with you bob i don't know indoctrinated indoctrinated indoctrinated indoctrinated? Indoctrinated? Indoctrinated? No. Indoctrinated. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Taking a person or group to accept a set of beliefs uncritically. Let's go. Plays for boys are hot today with the vocab. That's like sixth grade stuff. That was sixth grade reading. That says it on the side of the book, on the spine, sixth grade level. But yeah, the Jedi are not brainless they're just getting things they're just seeing things wrong every step of the way essentially like this is like a mother and their children

mother being a little stern but it's not abuse you know what they're seeing here they are like we say like the jedi are like the cops of the universe or whatever, the galaxy. And these are kind of the guys that are just like, no, we're good. This is our rules. And if you don't go by our rules,

you're fucked. And you can tell by the way they greet the Jedi, they see the Jedi as those kinds of people. And we just had a bad situation, but yeah, it's, it's a tough look. It's a real tough one for the Jedi.

If I go watch the prequels right now, I might just like this bad like like be done with the jedi altogether because it's a tough it's a tough stretch so then soul goes to indara and he tries to convince her to stop the ascension ceremony i don't think he knows it's called the ascension ceremony yet but he's like we got to stop this they're gonna you know turn them into witches or whatever and that's the case for this shit today oh yeah oh yeah like oh this is our personal like religious beliefs yeah that's all no that scene goes pretty much as we thought but the one twist is when we saw the witches we thought they were like holding Torben hostage at one point when his eyes went black he's pretty willing in that process he's kind of like giving himself over the second they

step foot in the coven and he's kind of like oh what are these witches got to offer me and mother Anasaya is like in his head knows about his past knows about his history knows where he was born says oh you just want to go back to Coruscant right and he's he's willing again a tough episode for master torben like he has the he goes for the hat trick really in the beginning he's being a bitch about the mission and this he gives himself over right away and then later on he's almost the catalyst for the whole thing when he grabs the speeder and he just fucking goes off without the permission of indora or sol or anyone in charge of him hey man've all been there. We've all been on the road just a little too long. Like you said, you're eating. He's probably been sick of eating SpaghettiOs,

right? It's like, you're like, I just need to get home and just eat a home-cooked meal, not be on the road, not be sleeping in a hotel or a spaceship or a fucking tent, whatever it may be. I understand that side of Torben altogether, but yeah, it's like, you're just completely letting these witches just fucking make a puppet

out of you. And can we, since you mentioned the speeder, did I watch this wrong? They're like, Torben runs and they're like, go, stop him! And they both kind of like, walk instead of like, it's like, if you need to stop a Jedi, you just run

Jedi the fuck out of him with any of your Jedi abilities. i feel like they didn't even try it was the weirdest thing i'm like that scene was was very odd to me i could go re-watch maybe i'm i watched it wrong but it's like the fucking stormtroopers had more fucking pep in their step when they were running to their little speeders especially when this show is like we're paying homage to the phantom menace we love the phantom menace we're unabashedly you know we're fans of it the phantom menace is the one and only time they ever showed the jedi have force speed there's that scene in the beginning with obi-wan and

qui-gon and they're they get the droidekas rolled down the hallway out of and they're like oh shit let's just get out of here and they poof basically like down the hall and everyone is kind of like oh they're the flat jedi are just the flash now like superman like gone in an instant they're a train from the boys and then they never do that ever again so yeah it's strange very strange also i don't think the speeders looked very good cgi wise in this week and like i could excuse it because i love love return of the Jedi and the speeder scene. And that looks the way it does. But there were some interesting scenes this week where I was like, Ooh,

that like hit my eyes harsh. They treated Torben getting on the speeder. Like I treat like when I'm really relaxed on the couch and like my kid gets something I don't want to have, like go get her. See, AJ has a plug in his hand. I don't want him going near the outlet with it

um so yeah he gives himself over to anisaya and then they take the girls through the testing again pretty much like we saw but there was an added scene where i think it's may might be osha i think it's may mentions this line about like oh yeah everyone must be sacrificed and the jedi look at each other and again this one i'm like okay i understand where the jedi are coming from you hear a child be like yep we're gonna do a ceremony and everyone's got to be sacrificed they looked at each other like what did she just say what i fucking think she said are they sacrificing these kids like is this some kind of one was marked but the other one wasn't is one of them about to be sacrificed i could see how they could jump to a conclusion there.

Although it is a quote we heard from Mother Anasaya in, I think, episode three. It's really just like a quote taken in the wrong context. It's a quote about like confronting your fear and giving yourself over to, you know, get over that fear. It's basically like the shit that Yoda is trying trying to tell luke an empire through a very different lens and they're like i think we got to shut this shit down these witches are going to kill kids it's like it the whole i think the whole dynamic that just has thrown me off with this it's like they just stumbled upon it and then they felt like they knew everything immediately and maybe they if they had more episodes or more time they could have made it more of a oh like

this this really would from the jedi perspective be someone they feel like they had to stop i feel like they're just bothering a bunch of people doing their own thing and it's like it's not like they had the kids on a stone tablet with fucking like knives and they're like carving into their chest be like oh they're gonna kill these kids it was very much like the jump to conclusions map from uh office space, which is like a 30 year old reference at this point. So pick that one up. And then Indara goes and she tells soul like, Hey, I talked to the council.

We can't take the kids. And this is a kind of interesting scene. Cause I can't tell if she's telling the truth or not in Dara. Like she didn't want to really take them in the first place. I think there's a chance she didn't even call the council and she's like hey we're just not taking these girls they're too old or we don't want to mess with the witches coven she maybe she knew a little about the witches and that they would retaliate but she's like we can't do it soul's pissed and he doesn't really know what to do he just runs off they find out the twins have the exact amount of

metachlorians each which is very strange and signals manipulation of some sort so then torben runs off like a bitch he gets on the speeder and he fucking ruins everything for everyone and we also saw when mother coral is bringing may out of the room when she's mad at osha we think oh i'm gonna go calm her down she no no no no, no, no. She's like, all right, let's fucking ramp up this anger. Get it out. You know, anger makes you stronger.

Mother Coral, someone to keep your eye on. Because even in this episode, it's like, oh, everyone in the Witch's Coven is dead. But we didn't see her body. Sus. Strange. But we get this whole scene where we finally see the reveal of what happened the jedi confront the mothers and ask how the girls were created mother anasaya almost seems to know this is the end for her because she doesn't give them like oh no please don't it's more of like you guys are

fucking idiots and you're going to be the cause of your own downfall one day and they're like whoa okay i don't know you're bringing this energy to the fight and she like i guess in the moment makes everyone afraid so lightsabers and guns get drawn and everyone's like we don't know who's going to strike first she poofs herself is that the good way of putting it i don't know what she was even really trying to do i assume because may has poofed too into like black dust black smoke i assume she's just trying to teleport them to a safe place because she's like oh she could tell lightsabers drawn guns drawn bows drawn shit's about to pop off soul is just startled by this it's like when you go up behind glenny balls and you say what's up and he's like whoa whoa immediately does that happen to glennie every time easily started

so soldier is the most easily startled jedi in the world kills her and he's poof stab just in the moment that was his first instinct stab her in the chest with a lightsaber kills her and she in the in her dying breaths basically like, I would have given my kid to you anyway. Like, you fucking lunatic. I can't believe you just killed me. And then there's the whole fight where Coral, Mother Coral, is pissed. She tries to fight Sol, who's like already upset at himself for what he did three seconds ago. So he's like, I will not fight you with my lightsaber. It's like, you just killed her wife with one. So that was, you know, a whole

thing. She poofs herself away and then makes the witches possess Kel Naka, which is actually, I thought this was kind of a cool scene, like Kel Naka fighting them as a possessed black eyed Wookiee with a lightsaber. I was like, all right, this is, this is the star Wars that I'm here for the star Wars I signed up for. And he's the one that gives torben the scar on his face we see some blood i was like all right seeing some blood they're not you know doing the pg star wars again whatever but coral probably alive everything else goes that the way we thought you know uh oh may burning down the the temple or whatever pretty much what happened but they were like she only meant to burn down the notebook fucking stupid like whatever um soul

saves osha like we saw he kind of made the choice and then when they're back on the ship indora convinces everyone like hey let's maybe not tell the council how that went down let's maybe say just like that crazy girl burned down the entire temple and that was that was the end of that so yeah they like yes it didn't go the way that they said but it went pretty close to how they said to the point where i was like torben killed himself over that like wow yeah it very i thought maybe it'll be revealed in like episode eight like maybe that whatever she got into his brain and when she died it like haunted him and made it worse i don't know but that that is like a crazy like that he went from where we see him to where he ends up before he kills himself. I want to say that was a tough look for us soldiers

when Sol just fucking kills this bitch and she's like, I was going to give also like, I was going to help you. How the fuck am I supposed to know that? You turn into a smoke monster. Like if you're turning into a smoke monster, it's usually you. You're trying to kill me. You're trying to do bad things to good

people. So I came to get mad. Also just tough break for the fucking witch lady that you know as of like even the last star wars tv show you get fucking a lightsaber to the chest that's like barely even a flesh wound in this universe now it actually happens to kill you so that was just bad bad break for her and also like again my guy soul looked bad there killed potentially someone trying to help him out however he was like mankind taking those chair shots he's just getting his answer i was like so let's go but then it's like so you don't want to use your weapon because you just killed an innocent person but now like if you don't use your weapon you're gonna die

it was a lot to take in and listen the kalnaka thing was cool i was like yes we got the wookiee finally using his powers i would have liked to see the wookiee use a lot more of his powers and his strength just to like fuck someone up it was like a two-minute scene that had no heart in the rest of the story i have to admit this though those witches swaying back and forth was just fucking weird it looked like an animatronic i was all right withronic i was all right with it i was all right with it but now that you say that like i i'm not sure i'll be able to unsee the animatronic when i like if i watched it back but like the old lady's in the front the old lady's in the front so yeah i see her first and i'm like that looks that looks really weird and then they're

all doing the same thing it's like and it's a small world ride in the star wars yeah oh and indora shuts that off and she made i think they all die when when she shuts it off right sure sure yeah i mean honestly let's just make our own story at this point like yeah like i think they all dropped and they were on the floor unless they were passed out and then the jedi or not the jedi temple the witch temple crumbling maybe that killed them but it seems like as soon as she was able to like snap kilnaka out of it they were just dead and maybe she even knew that because she was like indara was super sus about the whole thing which is funny because when we caught up with them 16 years later obviously she's the first one to die so she doesn't have like the time to be guilty about it but she seems like she's she's over it she's fucking playing cards

with a bar and like the rest of the jedi are like oppenheimer like i can't believe what i've done she's just like don't kill that bartender but like you know you move on to the next bar she's like i'm not gonna make another matrix movie anytime soon like trinity that was the acolyte penultimate episode we got one episode left do we think uh it's revealed vernestra is chimera's uh you know master do we think it's mother coral do we think he'll be revealed to be a knight of ren or plagas do we think none of this will be revealed his name will be ralph boner and it'll be one of those things it better be something i did not watch eight episodes of this shit to not have it like walk away with something somewhat concrete whether it's something from the show that is or you're something that is a knight's ren origin or

whatever it may be i need something just give me something tangible i can hold put in my pocket and say that was the acolytes contribution to the star wars galaxy i can live with that i'm already not going to re-watch this shit ever again um so i just want something good for them so and i will say this this last episode you said there was like these are like a three out of ten these last two this one this one was like a four and the other ones a two or, you know, like this one was, I think a cut above cause she'd actually happened. Even though a lot of it happened in like episode one or two or

whatever, we first saw the flashback. So it's very weird how this is all played out in the series. And this episode did the flashback, but hid the child acting struggles better than episode three did. Yes. And I will say this. So we were going to,

I think the bear will do next week. The bear does a lot of flashbacks in season three that are completely different that help build the story of everything. This just replayed the flashbacks. So if the bear did that in season three i'd be like i want my money back from hulu from the one month that i just won this one uh i i wanted more i i i think going to where we were with ken jack for the rest of the season i didn't see this coming i didn't think they were just going to literally just play it back from almost the same

angles too it's not we're seeing it from a different person's perspective. It's the same same beats. Yeah. So we will next week. We'll talk about the bear and we'll also talk about the boys up to where we are. I'm one. I think I'm one behind on the boys at this point. I'm two.

I have two episodes left of the bear because they drop all of those at once um but next week we'll have like it'll be kind of like a big mega episode to end a bunch of things before deadpool and wolverine you ready for bob you know what next week is called here in the basement what finale week it's finale week it is yeah finale week we're gonna do finale week i mean just because acolyte and the boys both happen to have their finales the same week and then like the bear sure that's it's finale week too because that's when bob finishes it could be whatever you want because it's a binge show so finale week three finales one week and then we move into deadpool season that's how you market a fucking podcast right there folks and in

the mix of all midst of all that we have house of the Dragon just cooking with its best episode of the series that people are lumping with the throne's best of the best. The basement is cooking right now, no thanks to the Acolyte, but we're still going to be part of finale week. We're still Acolyte, you have a fucking you have an uphill battle next week

because you're going against the boys and the bear. Yeah. Good luck, Acolyte. Good luck. You know, it's also like early alphabetical finale week. Acolyte, boys, bear. It's all we're sticking to, you know, early on in the alphabet. But real quick, the bear has been getting shit on season three, all like dragged all over social media.

I don't want to like spoil my thoughts for next week. It is not worthy of that. It is not worthy of getting dragged at all. You could, I think you could make an argument that it's a step down from season one or two. I totally fine. I wouldn't really argue that it is fantastic television and it's a show

where I'll tease a little thing for next week. My favorite episode of the season so far, I have two left is a flashback episode. Yes. Yep. I know what you're talking about. I'm all finished. The last two episodes, I think you'll be happy with.

I do think, I understand why some people are upset about certain things. A hundred percent. A lot of the gripes are fair. I think it's reached the point where it's gone a little crazy where some of the gripes, but again, I like that universe so it's like and again maybe it's because I'm watching shows like the Acolyte and all the MCU shows we watch like I'm fine with this show it's just it's not season two I think we can agree on no right but even even the worst yeah the worst bear episodes are still like a step above most other shows to me yes and it's like these are the things

that i always say i gotta talk to jeff and ken jack about it's like i feel like the way it's shot and the way they like soundtrack some of the things it's like it's beautiful it's like a beautiful show yeah so that stuff is like above my pay grade but i feel like it'll get it'll get a bunch of emmys that won't be aired it'll'll be like best photography and cinematography and shit like that. I think it will. All right. Get excited people. Finale.

It's like WrestleMania, but for the basement. Well, actually the week after next week with Deadpool and Wolverine will probably be more like WrestleMania, but also for that. So that's night two. Yeah.

That's night two of WrestleMania. Good way to put it. The week after the week of the 22nd, Clem and I are going to be seeing Deadpool and Wolverine on the 22nd. We're going to try to do a live at HQ preview episode for the show. Shout out. Skip tweeted us on Twitter was like, you guys should do a preview episode. I said, we'll do that.

We'll pair it with our Logan recap. We'll rewatch Logan. Do like half a recap, half a preview for Deadpool and Wolverine. We'll go see it. And then you'll have two Deadpool and Wolverine themed episodes that week. Let's go. All right.

We'll see you next week for finale week.