My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 368 - FINALE WEEK (THE ACOLYTE, THE BOYS, AND THE BEAR)

Episode Date: July 19, 2024

Robbie and Clem are BACK for a special GIANT-SIZED FINALE WEEK edition of the show! They recap and review the finales of The Acolyte/The Boys and the entire third season of The Bear and give their good, bad, and ugly on each! Sign up for ButcherBox today by going to https://Butcherbox.com/basement and use code basement at checkout for $20 off #TheAcolyte #TheBoys #TheBear 00:00 INTRO 02:15 MARVEL NEWS 20:21 THE ACOLYTE 48:50 THE BOYS 1:05:04 THE BEAR **************************************** My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike! Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement, presented by Barstool Sports, and a very special finale week edition of My Mom's Basement. It's Robbie, Fox, and Clem, and this week we are here to break down the finale, and I guess full seasons of The Acolyte, the boys, the bear. And we're also going to get into some Marvel news. Clem, how are we feeling? We're feeling great, Bob. It's finale week. Finale week.

Finale week. Finale week. Finale week. How do we get the fireworks on the computer here? Do we remember how to do that? I don't, I never have the special effects on mine. I was pre-special edition. I might just, next year's finale week, I'm going to light up actual fireworks in my house.

The basement will be on fire, but it's worth it because finale week comes about once a year. Or this is actually our first one ever. So we'll see how it goes. Perfect storm of three shows all having their finale the same week. Kind of fudged it with The Bear a little though. Let's be honest. It's a binge show. But hey, I think this was a normal time to finish The Bear you finished it around now right so i think that's a fair way

to do it i think so as well i'm excited for next year's finale week already just to back up terry and in clem's basement put it in reverse daddy that's me my kids he'll probably be my fucking pyromaster at that point he'll probably be be lighting Roman candles. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah. I've seen people do that every year with the Roman candles. It looks like a Harry Potter battle, the way that they like swing it. It's crazy. I would never do something like that.

I'd be afraid of the JPP, was it, that blew his hands off? Yes, yes, JPP. I know you probably can't do that with a Roman candle, but I'd be afraid I would be able to. Dude, I remember blogging videos. This was during like the, when we're like, it was during the pandemic and it was like, are we like crumbling as a society? And people were just having fireworks fights in the middle, like the Bronx and like Roman candles, bottle rockets.

And then like someone takes out like one of the big boys and you're just like, what is going on? This is the end of times. So I don't know if we'll go that crazy, but it's finale week. I told you we started 15 minutes late because I had to get my coffee and I needed the caffeine to start working. I can't have one of those low caffeine climb days for finale week of all days. So the caffeine is just hitting that caffeine is just hitting out and we are ready to rock finale week. So before we do get into all of the finales, we have some Marvel

news to talk about. And I wasn't planning on putting news into the podcast, but I was like, okay, we can't not talk about this stuff. The first of which being, we finally got a trailer for Captain America Brave New World. And honestly, I think it looks pretty fucking good. I know I'm the cap guy on the podcast, but this trailer looked a lot better than I thought the trailer was going to look. I was pretty satisfied with it. That's a good way to put it. It looked better I thought the trailer was going to look. I was like pretty satisfied with it. That's a good way to put it. It looked better than I thought it was going to look. It's going to be very hard to – it's just hard to be like that's Captain America because the other Captain America was that for so long.

And with me in comic books, once they changed the guy, once they changed the character, I was usually out by that point. I didn't have a very long comic book run. And it was always just, I never would see a new character taking over the mantle as like that guy. So it is just weird. It's like, no, that's Falcon guys. Let's not call it bullshit here. So it is one of those things that's just hard for my brain to process.

But again, I love the Harrison Ford line about, you know, how to get rid of the mustache if you want. Win when the election got to lose the mustache or something like that. So I like that line. Um, like you said, I thought you were going to mention him in terms of it being hard for your brain to understand. Cause I love Harrison Ford, but that was my first thought watching the trailers. Like, oh yeah, he is the exact same Ross that we've known throughout the MCU. He's the one trying to arrest the

superheroes for the civil war shit the soviet accords whatever like it's a little it's going to take a little bit but i think it's cool that harrison ford's playing the president again so that actually is a very fair point i didn't think about that i like harrison ford i should hate ross though right because ross has just been a fucking prick. So because of that, yeah, I think it's going to be hard to really turn the hate meter on for Harrison Ford. I'm like, no, that's Han Solo. That guy saved the fucking galaxy multiple times. We love Harrison Ford.

So there are some definite issues with it. I still am going into the movie with low expectations, hoping to be surprised. I think pretty much anything that was made before Iger came out is like, all right, we're going to stop. We've got to cut the shit here. This is one of those ones, especially I think we've heard rewrites and reshoots and stuff like that. Obviously, the show we didn't really love. So because of that, I'm going in with low expectations.

But you had your moment. We got Gus Fring. We found out where he is now. But listen, I love Giancarlo Esposito. Great great guy great actor that's gus fring for me forever not even he's not off he's not anyone else he is fucking gus fring so good to see we now know where he is involved and then obviously the red hulk reveal was kind of the big you know shit moment there right him throwing the shield into the ground that looked really cool it's just a cool visual. I thought the teaser poster was cool too,

of the red Hulk hand holding the Captain America shield. But yeah, Gus Fring looks like a badass. Every time they cut to him, I think there's like maybe three total seconds of him in the trailer. Everyone made me more and more hyped up. He looked like De Niro in heat or something. The way he was like holding the gun with the sunglasses, you know, ducking around the cars or whatever i thought all that was cool the fact that they're becoming the new

simpsons with predictions they have a fucking trailer where isaiah bradley stands up and tries to assassinate the president and then it happens two days later and the fact that they had to do reshoots because there was like an israeli super villain storyline and this and they're like i don't think we should touch that right now and the fact that falcon and winter soldier had like a global pandemic storyline before covid that's a little weird where we are we are i don't know if we're even reaching simpsons approach a point it's like we're there we're past that because simpsons has eight billion episodes they're gonna get one right here or there there's not that many mcu projects no matter how much we bitch about how much they've been pumping out and the fact they've already hit like those

are big fucking moments and it's also just kind of a product of the simulation there's a virus in it we've gone fucking crazy and we're off the rails stranger than fiction all that kind of stuff so yeah i hadn't even um put the two. I forgot about the assassination attempt in the trailer. And then Brandon Clancy sent me like, wait a minute. So did this happen? Oh, fuck. So and we'll get to that with the boys later on as well. Oh, God.

Yeah. Fucked. It's fucked. Huge news came down this week. I don't believe it's confirmed yet, but it came from The Hollywood Reporter. Very reputable source. I believe this is pretty much going to happen. The Russo brothers are in talks to direct Avengers 5 and Secret Wars, just like they did Infinity War and Endgame back to back. You could attach the same directors to them here. And there's also rumors of Avengers

5 being Avengers versus X-Men. People are saying that could get announced as soon as next week at Hall H San Diego Comic-Con. This is, it just made me feel so happy, made my heart feel so warm that the Russo brothers are coming home. I know that after they directed Infinity War and Endgame, they probably wanted a break from the spectacle crazy superhero movie.

They went off, they did a couple of their own movies with the utmost respect to them. I don't think those movies panned out how they thought they would. Like, I think when you direct the biggest movie of all time, you think we're going to go on and become the next Christopher Nolan or something. That's not really what has happened with the Russo brothers. They've produced some stuff here and there that's done really well. They produced everywhere, everything all at once. So, like, they have some successes since Endgame, but I just can't imagine this is how they thought their careers were going to go.

Marvel, kind of the same thing. Everyone's saying the MCU hasn't been the same since Endgame, Infinity War. We're not giving the Russos all the credit in the world for the entire Infinity Saga, but they made Civil War. They made the Winter Soldier. They made the two best Avengers movies. Everyone I think is in agreement that they know how to make movies in this universe the mcu the russo brothers that's a match made in heaven i guess the question here is are they coming back together because it's a match made in heaven or because both sides are a little bit desperate

right now and they need each other i think this is a positive though in the words of smart hulk i see this as an absolute win i don't trust anyone in the world more with an avengers movie at this point than these two they have the proven track record yeah and that's that's kind of the thing i think marvel knows they can't you can fuck up a tv show here and there you can fuck up a couple movies even something like ant-man that was so hyped. You fuck up an Avengers movie, that is code red. It's whatever's darker than red. Maroon? Purple? That's bad news, Bears. Especially when you're supposed to be wrapping up phases and stuff based on that.

And I do agree. There is a part of me that feels like, oh shit, we gotta go back to the well. Oh, we gotta go back to Tatooine here just to rope the audience back in. And I say it all the time, because I like seeing growth. I like seeing new stuff, new people. They have fucked up this last phase or two, whatever the fuck it is, so badly.

Let's be honest. We've talked about it here on the pod enough times. We've reviewed all the pieces of content they've done. They just need to get a win here. And it's like aim small, miss small kind of a thing. You know they're going to do a good job. You know they care. Secret Wars in particular was like their passion right that's something they wanted to do and i'm sure disney is not you know they're not getting a discount disney we'll say

that i'm sure these guys are gonna be like they're sliding their number and they're expecting that number to be slid back with like a check mark next to it from feige so uh good for them it almost feels like and i as much as i'd love to like try a new director out or you know every avengers movie we could start growing at the same point or something kind of nice it's like all right we're gonna you know bring in mariana rivera now we're gonna bring in the closer they're gonna wrap this all perfectly and put a bow on it like no one else can and uh yeah we can't miss with these because we've missed a lot along the way it's a good point to bring up that secret wars is kind of like a passion project for them it's not just like oh i guess we'll sign up for whatever the next avengers movie is since endgame pretty much

everyone would ask them like hey would you guys ever do another marvel movie would you come back for the next avengers movie and they've always said since like 2019 secret wars is the only thing that could bring us back they're like we really loved Secret Wars growing up in the comics they were passionate about it they loved everything the storyline the Venom stuff all of that they're like that could bring us back they said it would be a much bigger spectacle than Endgame though so that would be tough to top and it's like geez if they're already thinking like how do we top Endgame shit I don't want to make me myself too excited but it sounds pretty sweet sounds pretty sweet tough to top. And it's like, geez, if they're already thinking like, how do we top end game? Shit.

I don't want to make me myself too excited, but it sounds pretty sweet. Sounds pretty sweet. This is the only thing though, like end game did have like layers and layers of great characters, great stories that you were wrapping up. You're just thinking of what's left in the MC right now. Like you're thinking of your toy box,

right? Like, all right. You know, Iron Man's out of the toy box. He's not in there anymore. Cap is a different one one we've just changed caps clothing from the falcon to cap the old cap is gone um black panther obviously gone uh we got the x-men but this is the thing we're dumping in all the toys from deadpool that's gonna be in the mix now we got a new bin

worth of stuff i'm like looking thinking in my mind's eye at AJ's toy chest right now, because he has all these things. He was fighting Mr. Sinister and Beast. And he goes, Beast is a bad guy now, but Mr. Sinister is a bad guy too. But they're fighting each other. And I'm like, that's basically what the Russo brothers are doing. They're going to figure out ways to make all this shit go down. With another piece of news, I'm sure you're going to touch as well,

that can make things very funky and cool. So, I mean, you have to be excited. What is our biggest, like, with all these projects, whenever they flop, it's like the director or producer from them, like, yeah, I really don't care about Marvel and I kind of just wanted to try something my own way. And it's like, well, like, you could do that, but you suck at it, clearly,

because you just created a flaming hot pile of shit. So give it to them. I'm fine with it. We'll worry about Avengers 7 and 8 in a decade or whatever for maybe a new set of directors to come out. Or we just give it back to the Russos and know they're going to do a good job. Also, I want to raise this question, Bob. Do you think – I think almost no matter what, there would have been a post-Endgame malaise or like it would have been – it would have just – it had to naturally slide down but i

do think i do think a chunk of it was like the way the pandemic broke and you know fucked all of hollywood then we had a goddamn strike so i i don't want to blame it all on just poor writing and execution but that you know definitely was a big part of it and it does suck my biggest lost opportunity is i feel like we could have had some really cool content of the fallout from the snap and you know the return and end game that is just at this point it would be a little bit pandering it would it would be we feel it out of place now you know fuck five years later yeah i feel like we had a few projects that would tease or give us one scene of the fallout of the snap and they were usually like the coolest scenes in the show like i think back to wanda vision the stuff with maria rambeau and her mom and her mom coming back and her not knowing what's happening in the hospital and

seeing just the like panic in the hospital of like oh my god we don't have the beds for this like that stuff was sweet even uh wanda going back to try to get vision's body from like the shield headquarters or wherever he was being held. Like that stuff was awesome, but it was usually, like I said, just one scene in one episode. Like I could have,

we could have done a whole show about the fallout of the snap. That would have been great. I also wanted to shout out Marcus McFeely, the writers of infinity war and end game. And I think the captain America stuff, they're not coming back as of now. So that I'm not worried, but we don't know what's happening with the writers right now. Michael Waldron, our boy, was supposed to be writing,

and then reports came out this week, not confirmed yet, that he's no longer writing it. That's the sort of thing that I wish I could text him about it, but like, hey, bro, are you still on the movie? It's a weird thing to say. So we're just going to have to keep an eye on that. I don't know. But you mentioned some wonky rumors, some things that could make this movie crazy

one of those rumors is that robert downey jr is in talks to come back as a tony stark variant that becomes dr doom and he would be the main villain of this story that sounds insane it also sounds like something i'm absolutely there for like we were saying how do you cast dr doom you got to cast a huge guy we were talking about like a scars guard or we were talking about uh killian murphy you know you have to cast like an amazing actor john ham as dr doom robert downey jr you're telling me you could make the main hero of the entire infinity saga the main villain of the multiversal saga gives him something new to do obviously he loves the russo brothers i'm sure the fact that they're attached probably makes it more likely for everyone

to come back i'm sure they were going to come back regardless but now this is probably like oh great i'll get to go hang out with the rso's again i'm in on this i think this sounds cool it sounds very cool it's one of those things i wish i didn't even know which is one of the things that just kind of gets me a lumped on you but that's so hard to do these days i don't know if i love it as like a continual piece i could maybe do it with it for a movie or an arc a quick arc but it does it does feel weird to them to be like, alright, it kind of feels like, alright, we're bringing the Russo brothers back, and now Robert Downey Jr., he just switched sides. It's like we're doing the wrestling thing. It's like Ric Flair

in the main event again. Are we really doing this? And now he's a good guy or a bad guy. It's Hollywood Hogan kind of stuff. So that part of me is like, eh, I don't mind it as a part of a story or, you know, we see, we think he's the big bad and then the real Dr.

Doom played by Jon Hamm or whoever it may be comes in and kills him. He's like, yeah, I'm the bad motherfucker now. I'm the guy you're going to be dealing with for the next X amount of, you know, projects. So I, again, I swooned over it. I'm a RDJ guy. And I mean, let's be honest. Your cap said that Robert Downey Jr.'s Iron Man is his favorite character in the MCU world.

That's what he's got to say, right? He can't pick himself. I would like to know Robert Downey Jr.'s answer. He'd probably be like, Tony Stark, of course. I was going to say, he definitely would choose himself. Also, I just realized I still have my birthday decorations behind me. I don't know if you could tell, but my girlfriend knocked it out of the park. Blink-182 style.

It says, well, this is growing up. Well, I guess this is growing up. You know, damn it. Lady Fox, just crushing, man, as usual. The second time she's thrown me a Blink-182 themed birthday. The first time was nobody likes you when you're 23. And then, well,

I guess this is growing up. She nails it. She knocks it out of the park. Our little Bob Fox, you know, approaching 30 now, now you're in your late twenties. This is not cool,

man. That's as an old myself. I don't like seeing everyone else get old, even though I kind of like it a little bit. Cause I'm like, Oh, like I know Glennie at some point, those hangovers are going to start going into Monday. Okay. And then'm like oh glennie you're not living that you know i live

you know you live your little life in your 40s you wake up in the morning you look through everyone it's instagram stories like oh that would seem like a good night at the barstool national bar and it's like they're just up and at it the next day i like to know when everyone starts you know then once the kids are born oh that's when i love it because then you know captain cons is talking about his daughter just running circles around like yeah you don't know what it was like you know i was dealing with that shit back when you didn't even think about having because you didn't make your wife at that point cons also shout out speaking of birthdays july 19th it is my brother mike's birthday for our basement guests so shout out my brother mike also

the day before my nephew luke's birthday it's, it's a huge birthday month for the Foxes. Brother Mike has a legitimate, he has his own seat in the basement. Like it's, it just sits there. He has his own little recliner down here. Yeah. Um, and the last Marvel thing I had, uh, Kevin Feige is now set to receive a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Much deserved, uh, for someone that literally changed Hollywood.

It's always one of those things where like they didn't have one already and it just always seems crazy. I know it's a very weird thing. You have to like donate money. Someone has to kind of like raise it for you and like make a case for it. So it's more so I think when people want to actually do it or someone convinces you or figures a charity out, that is when it gets done. So I have to say this like kind of ending with these Rus ending with these Russo Brothers stuff with these Avengers movies.

This is like a big part of Kevin Feige's legacy, right? It's like he has it from the beginning to the endgame, everything incredible. I am not. I am not. The trust of Feige Light is not out of the basement right now. Oh, no. Right before Deadpool and Wolverine, you don't put it on? No, I can't put it on before. not i am not the trust of feige light is not out of the basement right now oh no right before deadpool and wolverine you don't put it on no i can't put it on before after me but rob i said

i'm done with trust of feige until he proves it to me and the only thing that's come out since then is x-men 97 granted great show it was a reboot of something that existed in the out of the park but it's like I can't give you credit for that when you're copying off the paper of someone from the 90s. Deadpool is kind of the same thing. It's going to probably, a lot of the stuff is going to be, you know, characters that already existed, the universe already existed.

I need some world building, some character development. That's why this Captain America movie is pretty fucking big. And I'll tell you right now, I don't think Agatha is going to be, that's not going to be the movie that I'm down here here so i'm telling you now unless deadpool 3 hits notes so high i i actually might turn the trust of ryan reynolds light on if yeah okay yeah right is that fair but the trust of flaggy light until further notice is not on in the basement we're happy he gets his star trust the flaggy light was on. There's no way this whiteboard has existed in this phase. We just know it's not in use.

Maybe it got lost in a move or something right now. We have to find that whiteboard and fucking get cooking so the Russo brothers can wrap things up perfectly in Avengers 5 and 6. Or maybe they just didn't want to erase the whiteboard. They were like, we can't. This is a legendary whiteboard. We can't erase it. And then just the office manager never ordered a new one. I'll be honest with you, Bob. I don't hate that. Like legendary whiteboard. We can't erase it. And then just the office manager never ordered a new one. I'll be honest with you, Bob.

I don't hate that. Like the whiteboard, a lot of sentimental, a lot of good memories on there, a lot of success, a lot of money. I go back. I just won my fantasy football championship last year. I look at my roster like once a week and I'm like, I'll do that week against when I got Debo and he put up like 30, 40 points on the Eagles. So I'm fine with that, but we need a whiteboard or something digital.

We need to get to the next phase and start crushing here. All right, let's get into the finales. We're not going to break them down like beat by beat like we normally do. We'd be here all week if we tried to do that for all three shows. I've actually tried to like break down my thoughts on each into the good, the bad and the ugly.

So we're going to start with the acolyte. I'll put the timestamps down below. If you're watching on a video platform, they'll be in the description. If you're listening on the podcast, so you could skip around. But we are going to spoil all of these shows. So right now, right up front, spoiler alert for the acolyte, the Boys, the Bear, the Finales, all of it. So the Acolyte, the good, the bad, and the ugly. Overall, I would say I thought the finale was really good.

I thought it was maybe second only to Episode 5, the lightsaber battle in the forest that we loved. There was some stuff in it that I hated, and we'll get into that. There was some stuff in it that I loved, though. So I was excited watching it, being like, all right, I think overall the finale brought the show up and I think it'll be a fun finale to recap because if you get a little bit of the stuff that you hate, it's like, all right, there's a little variety in this recap. What did you think of the finale? Just broad strokes overall. Yeah, I'm with you. There was some stuff I liked. I really liked, there was some stuff I was just like, oh, I think a lot, some of the stuff I liked was a product of wrapping everything up, which

they, you know, I appreciate they did. But it's like, I also think, and this is the redditization of TV shows. We've been through it a million times, dating back to True Detective season one. I just think there was a better show out there. I think there was a better way to wrap up the murder mystery, even though we already saw it get wrapped up kind of last week. I think they could have still done some stuff here that would have made me feel better um but i i tried to think of a comparison for the whole series and i came up with this one it is a niche reference bob if you don't understand i completely

understand i think the things they did well they did incredible and i think the things they did bad it was some of the worst stuff i've seen in star wars and i basically if i had to compare the acolyte season one to an nba player it is mac mcclung do you know who mac mcclung is god no he is a two-time nba slam dunk champion winner he he NBA slam dunk champion winner. He, he, he, NBA slam dunk champion. Slam dunk contest champion, excuse me. He is incredible. He's this little white dude. He, he just does shit.

You're like, oh my God, I can't believe, I've never seen that done. In the dunk contest, which has become very repetitive, he brings new shit there. That's kind of what the Acolyte did with a lot of the lightsaber fights. A lot of just, you know, the overall force, you know, like abilities they showed. And even like, obviously, we're going to get into some of the cameos and stuff like that. Very cool shit. Mack McClellan is not an NBA player. He's basically a development player.

And it's someone, if you have him on your team, you're probably not a good team. If he's playing for your team, you're a bad team, probably tanking for the number one pick. So I think A acolyte at its best and listen mac mcclellan you go watch his dunk highlights they're fucking incredible if i watch the you know youtube highlights of the acolyte i'm probably like holy shit the show was great and then you actually watch the whole thing you're just like oh so mac mcclellan the acolyte season one guarantee nobody else made that comparison no definitely not star wars content creator universe and i saw a tweet that kind of goes along what you were saying there like if you

were just to watch the highlights on youtube or something you'd be like holy shit they were cooking with this show i saw someone tweet and basically say it was the moment from this episode where uh kymere throws his two lightsabers at soul and soul has this badass like forced throw back at him so someone posted that and then another person quote tweeted it and said every every time i see a clip from this show it's someone saying they ruined star wars and it's the coolest shit i've ever seen and it's like all right yeah i understand that and only a sith deals in absolutes so we need to understand that this show falls in between the coolest shit ever and the worst shit ever. It's not the worst thing, most unwatchable thing

ever. It was a bit of an exhausting eight weeks to get through or seven weeks, whatever it was, but it wasn't unwatchable. Like you said, they had some very high peaks. They had some very low valleys as well, where it wasn't, wasn't the worst the worst wasn't the best but let's get into it the finale we'll start with the good of the finale right off the bat the fact that they committed to the double turn like we were talking about and ended the series with the protagonist slowly force choking her mentor to death a character who we all really liked this fucking metal that was a moment in this show where i was like okay i thought they were gonna tease the double turn and then go with the cheesy route and they were gonna use the

power of two the power of many i thought they were gonna pull that bullshit on us i would have despised that when i realized okay she's wearing the white she's wearing the black like they're doing the luke return of the jedi type thing And then she's just going to go all heel. She's going to go full Sith by the end. I was like, all right, they had some balls. I like that.

If that had happened in a show where you were more invested in the character, like them more, I think that would have been a, Oh fuck moment. Right. But the fact that it was, I did not care about the twins. I don't know if that's

on the bad or the ugly for you i just yeah that was a real flaw and we went into it thinking i was gonna like they were obviously the the centers of the show and by the end i'm just like yeah whatever get me out of the osha parts or unless there's gonna be a fight or something like that and uh may and it is crazy that like you see that you're like, holy shit, that is some gnarly stuff. And I'm trying to think my experience with Star Wars is basically the movies and then the bigger shows that we've reviewed here. I don't know if stuff like this has happened in the cartoons

where you have someone go to the dark side and just kill their master, or I guess whatever Saul was to her. But it's like, holy shit, you don't see that. I haven't seen that much in the star wars universe so uh like the way everything goes down with dark with anakin is obviously one thing but that's fucking anakin it's a gold standard for this kind of a turn so uh yeah my metal confirmed

metal confirmed i agree with you on the twins and i wasn't like i wasn't necessarily anti the twins but i wasn't so pro the twins which is kind of the worst spot that you want to be, especially if you're a wrestler, you know, like they would come out and I wouldn't give them any reaction. And the performances weren't bad. Like we talked about the flashback episodes weren't great, but the actual may and Osha before they were fine.

Um, it just, yeah, I think Chimera and soul, they, they had a few characters that were way more interesting than the twins, which also makes it tough. Way more interesting. The twins were mid-Carter's.

Give me a 90s, 2000s mid-Carter, Bob, that I can compare the twins to here. Like, I want to say, like, Saturn. Is that? Very Saturn. Very Saturn. It feels like they were very Saturn. Yeah, let's call them perry saturn yeah they're perry saturn perry saturn or like i could see the twins being like uh

like the headbangers where it's like all right like we like them they're all right but it's not like you're showing up in a headbanger shirt and a sign you know it's like there's much more interesting people to root for here. And then like, Chimera is like Chris Jericho. You're like, Oh, this guy has something.

Let's fucking totally. Right. Yeah. You're like, okay, this is the guy. Um, another speaking of Chimera,

another thing I had listed under the good was for the most part, I thought the Chimera versus soul lightsaber battle was great. There was like a moment or two here or there where I was like, Oh, what was that? I have one moment in the ugly, but for the most part, there was like a moment or two here there where i was like oh what was that i have one moment in the ugly but for the most part i was like damn that that was fucking badass and we heard that it was put together by the same action team that put together the darth vader rogue one hallway scene so that that i mean keep hiring those people so i was gonna say when you were talking about what worked and what didn't work, I'm like, the writers that came up with this murder mystery that flopped and some of the twins dialogue, which again, I think part of it was like the kids.

It's hard with kid actors. If you don't, I've realized this when a kid actor crushes like Joffrey fucking hate him, hope he dies. And the actor has to like retire from Hollywood. That's a good job casting. These kids just, they just didn't have it, whatever the reason. But the other side of it is obviously all these action scenes crushed. Those people need to be in all the future star Wars movies. At least that involved lightsabers.

Cause they know what the fuck they're doing. Chimera man. He has like, he has so much gadgets with his lightsaber. I can't believe the mini saber was sick. That was the unscrew mini lightsaber. I was like, Oh my God,

that's bad-ass. I loved it. I also had Vernestra who I did pretty much hate by the end of the series. I thought good performance because she was the worst, her getting owned by that Senator. And that Senator is a good actor. He's in the super girl show as Martian Manhunter. And then her blaming everything on salt and the episode that kind of it's not like a monologue

but it's kind of played like a monologue where she's speaking to the senate and putting everything on soul and yeah it was just a former jedi went crazy i thought that was all very good and it felt more adult than the show we started with like you show the final 10 minutes of this episode to someone that has only seen the first two episodes and they'd be like what happened in the last six episodes like the writing was pretty good in this moment and i liked the idea of blaming it on soul so the jedi still don't know about the sith and it's all vernestra's fault but look at everyone that complained about kiata mundi he didn't know about the fucking sith yeah of course he didn't.

They explained it. You don't think they fucking knew that? Like, come on. Dude, is his birthday a big deal? I didn't know if this was going to make the birthday sale a big deal. I don't even understand the birthday stuff being a big deal. It's not. I won't pick that scam.

I don't even want to start with it again. But yeah, I mean, he basically is talking about Anakin. He's like, if one of these guys gets too much power, we have a fucking problem on our hands, right? And then, you know, he helps kick off the first Galactic Alliance Empire, you know? So, I mean, that scene was awesome, too. He's a senator.

Is that what his technical role is? And it's kind of what we've been saying about the, like, honestly, they're kind of cooking. I'm like, yeah, the Jedi, they're just this religion and they're two extremists, right? They are fucking extremists. And the thing is, we all fall in love with the Jedi when it's Luke and Obi-Wan and they're these good guys fighting evil. But then, like, especially the OG Jedi kind of dicks. They're called them cops, narcs, whatever you want to call them.

They're a fucking problem. And I don't think the way that they govern everybody in themselves was the right way to do it and clearly it's a fucking i imagine being able to like contain or i don't know if that's the right word for it but like raising people to use the force probably not easy thing to do and there's probably it's like you could just go to the dark side very easily i imagine imagine. So I understand the gives and takes of it all. But, yeah, it was very cool. And I feel like our whole the Jedi aren't as good as everyone seems to make them out to be. Like that take is aging beautifully.

And I think it's going to continue to age because I think that's the way Star Wars is going to go is like, hey, the Jedi aren't flawless either. They're denying people, taking them away from from their mothers killing their mothers maybe even and then you know making them not love anything and just be focused on they the jedi are basically the like baby gronk dads oh yeah honestly they are though and like people are acting like they just became that with the acolyte people are like you're disrespecting what george thought of the jedi they're supposed to be good but they were just blinded that's true but like re-watch the prequels george was making it pretty clear that they were not doing all the right things i mean they bring anakin in he's like an eight-year-old boy he's like i kind of miss my mom and they're like oh this fucking kid's a bitch you brought us a bitch wait what like the chosen one i thought

they were supposed to be welcoming i thought they were supposed to be welcoming. I thought they were supposed to make this kid feel like he's family now. No, like the Jedi were not all right. So yeah, I had that as well. And then the final thing on my good for the episode is the cameos. I thought these cameos were legitimately perfect. So well done and so not self-indulgent. Like the Yoda one at the end had to be done right we were all talking about who was even alive at this time yoda's the obvious one and at this point yoda

would probably be at the top of the jedi council he'd probably be the number one guy that you got to report to so the fact that he wasn't informed about any of this it made everyone be like they got to tell him eventually right and having it at the end having just the the shot behind him where you just see like all right they're gonna fill yoda in now but you don't ruin any of the mystique of yoda i think it looked like the puppet so you don't have to make the decision of are we going with the puppet in the prequel era are we going with the cgi yoda in the cgi yoda era so that was great and then the one that's the big talking point from this episode we got the live action debut of darth plagues the wise have you ever heard you know that little the way he turns like that's a great scene um but they showed us darth

plagues just lurking like an absolute pervert in this cave just his hands his weird creepy hands but he looks exactly like we thought he would look from legends from the book and and all that they they stayed very faithful to his look they made him look incredibly creepy and the exact same thing they did with yoda they didn't ruin the mystique which in my opinion is the best thing going for doris plagues at this point and i know there's the book that everyone loves but that's a little different like the book you create your own images in your head to actually canonize him make him look faithful to what he's supposed to look like make him look creepy but not you know give us dialogue where he's talking and this and that the next thing i think this was perfect and it almost makes me

root for this to be a one season show i could go either way if they make another season i'll watch it i'm not i wouldn't be like i can't waitcolyte season two. But I think the two cameos at the end were so good in terms of just teasing things that I don't want anymore. I don't even want any more Plagueis. I think that was perfect. Just tell us what he looks like. We know what we know about him. He's lurking. We assume he's Chimera's master, but it's not even confirmed that that's a thing. He could just be lurking on the island i like all that i i feel like it was the writers both these cameos were the writers hey let's get renewed for a season two card and he's like oh i got yoda and plague is in the mix now i'm i'm weird where i always love the idea of darth plague is just being kind of bullshit

or more of like and this is obviously it doesn't fall, I guess the Star Wars canon, but just, it was just like the Emperor's like wild draw for of like, now I got Anakin. Once I throw this, you know, hook him with this one,

this'll get it. And Plagueis was all either. He couldn't actually do that. Or he was even like really a real thing. It was more of a, you know, old myth or whatever, but the fact that he's here now,

and I love the, God bless whoever made the Darth Jar Jar. They were playing with Darth Jar Jar. That made my fucking day. But yeah, I mean, it's, that is one of the,

the big, oh shit. There's not a ton of, oh shit characters you can introduce. Cause most of the Star Wars characters have obviously been introduced at this point and that was like a holy fuck and the Knights of the Red still have to figure out what's happening there which I mean they keep playing Kylo Ren's music

during Kymer it's like it just is that is in my head canon boom founder of the Knights of Ren a member of the Knights of Ren whatever it may be that is he's part of that especially if they don't make another season of this I'm just going to have to run with that in my head hey's a sith rule of two so maybe he's collecting acolytes he collects one that is even better than him because she's a virgins in the force and they

do the whole thing with she's a clone not a sister or whatever she's the same person maybe plagues kicks chimer out and he has to go start the knights of ren instead of the sith you know plagues doesn't kill him he gets away or something like that i could see that being an Plagueis kicks Chimera out and he has to go start the Knights of Ren instead of the Sith. Plagueis doesn't kill him. He gets away or something like that. I could see that being an actual route to that happening. I got to figure out how Plagueis uses these people to live forever. Is he just going to eat Osha?

I don't know. That's what I was going to say. And I don't want to know. I actually don't want to know. I want to have these theories of like, does he eat Osha? Does he fucking transfer his life force into a new body does he not even know how to manipulate life but he told palpatine one day later on down the line oh i'm trying to do this and palpatine just ran with oh he knew how to do it like i like all of these different theories and not knowing which one's real so honestly perfect perfect use of Darth Plagueis. The bad.

I have some bad stuff in this episode that I groaned at in the moment. It's just like, what are we doing here? The lightsaber slash crystal bleeding that happens where the blue lightsaber turns red slowly. Don't get on me. I know it's happened in the books. I know it's happened in the video games. I know it's a thing established in canon. It's dumb as fuck. I hate it. I absolutely despise it. It's so on the nose and cheesy. And is the implication that this happens sometimes if someone's really angry and they have the force

running through their veins like that? Or is the implication that red lightsabers are other colors that are red in the hands of a dark side user i hate either implication to be honest like the second one i i hate i love the idea that red lightsabers are red because they use synthetic kyber crystals like the jedi are guarding the kyber crystal caves the sith have to use fucking janky ones bad ones i like that the idea that it's like this force power that only a few could have it's like well why did anakin's lightsaber stay blue on mustafar then because he was about as evil as anyone's ever been so just that whole moment the way it slowly like turned red i was grown and i was like this is

fucking dumb did you like that or did you not like it so first of all are are you telling me that sith lightsabers are red because they get them through Teemo and they can't actually get them? Yeah. Yes. Exactly. I never knew that. I kind of would love if there was one Jedi that was like, no, I found a red crystal and I'm going to be the red lightsaber. And he was so, him or her was so fucking good at the Force.

They're like, all right, this guy is just like, it's like, trust me, he's a good guy. You see that red lightsaber, you figure all the Jedi are going to go attack him just on, like, principle. It's like waving the enemy flag. It's like, no, he's one of ours. He's good. It's like Jordan getting fined for the shoes every game and just being like, I'm willing to pay the fine. Like a Jedi that has to pay 5,000 credits every time he uses a red lightsaber. It's like, I can't use my lightsaber right now, man.

I've just been using it way too much lately, and I keep having to pay this goddamn fine. That's a great comparison right there. i did kind of groan at it uh it kind of reminded me of in game of thrones when the dragon melts down the throne at the end and i'm like all right we didn't need that however i'm gonna go ahead crazy enough i'm gonna talk bob off the ledge about something that is ruining canon for people or whatever. It's a show for preteens, right? They don't know about all these little video game things or any of these – or I guess it's a teen show. They don't know about all – I don't think I've ever seen the lightsaber change. And I imagine a lot of the people that we think is the target demo for this has never seen it.

So if you're just seeing that for the first time, like, Oh, I get it. And you think you're fucking, you know, some English major getting all these. Oh, she must be bad guy. Now she's a bad guy. Cause the swords happened to clash.

I appreciate how they like made it happen where it wasn't just, she gets really blue puss on her face and it just turns red. It's like, Oh, she's bad now. I like how everything kind of blended together, but yeah, I can't get too mad at it but i did kind of be like all right then the force memory wipe at the end with chimera being like i could try wiping all our memories and then he does it and it's not like baby oda where he does it and then passes out or it's not

like luke force projecting where he does it and he dies i thought that was even a possibility where like maybe this is kind of your sacrifice for the twins he does it he's fine absolutely oh i guess that worked that seemed too convenient and also if he had that ability or he thought he had that ability that he could try i mean ken jack we're saying why doesn't he just do that with every jedi he's ever gotten into a fight with just like in the middle of a fight boom you're reverted back to a baby who doesn't know why that you're in this forest. So I said in my blog, the ending with the force memory wipe and them hugging each other and them saying, I'll find you again. It felt like a high school production of Spider-Man no way homes ending. It's just like, you're not hitting it. And maybe it's the thing where I wasn't so invested in the

twins and their relationship. You weren't hitting the the mark you thought you were hitting with that i don't think and yeah that's kind of what i attributed to i was like he's they're doing to her what they did the pip right just hold the reset button yeah give it oh it's always hard to find that like if you use a ballpoint pen that's the best if you gotta find that little pin or something like that and it's like all right yeah hold that reset button for five seconds boom she's gone and again i was like yeah i don't care about the twins so whatever's gonna happen here you know they'll tell me it's plague it's gonna eat one of these chicks that's all i was like and then my final bad thing why the hell did basil sabotage soul thank you what the fuck was that

he was just like back on his team and it's always like hey man like it's all like he just immediately forgot about that that was the weirdest fucking thing i've ever seen i thought they accidentally like leave that in after they cut scenes that contextualized that like it was the strangest there's no explanation for people on the star wars reddit i went to the star wars reddit to see if anyone was like oh you missed this or you missed that people were like is the implication that he was a slave on that ship just like working for the jedi didn't want to be there and then eventually snapped like it's it was he just mad that he mistreated one of the twins i i have no idea why that happened and it's very confusing yeah because like at some point i'm like oh he heard the dialogue about you know how saul was you know complicit in the way everything went down but then like no

then he's like kind of like helping everybody still so it just was that was very and that was like kind of an important moment where it's like all right we're getting them and you couldn't i just felt like you could have figured out oh hyperspace is broken again the ship could just break it happens star wars every time like it was that was just strange and i liked basil we loved him the whole series so for him to like turn but there to be no reason for the turn or no like it wasn't even a moment it was just like oh yeah he sabotaged him and then the ship wait what he sabotaged him and let me i have this in the notes so if you don't believe me it's it's right here in chronological order. I wrote this right before he did that.

I had enough of Basil by that point. I was like, once I saw him, I'm like, all right, we've hit the limit with Basil. He was cute. He had done his job. He was in for like 10 more minutes than I thought he was going to be in, or at least two more episodes than I thought. That Glastroid field they were, I was calling it the Glastroid field. Oh, that was cool. That was very cool.

The way they were in the middle of it,astroid field. Oh, that was cool. That was very cool. The way they were like in the middle of it, kind of in the ring. That was, that was sweet. Very cool. And like a new look for a space battle, which is pretty rare in Star Wars. So are we on bad or ugly right now for you? That was bad. I only have one thing for ugly. That was my final bad thing.

The only ugly thing I have is that, what was that shot in the middle of Sol versus Chimera with them on wires going down from the bridge slowly. They're like slowly floating down to the floor completely took me out of the episode. And also I saw, um, Manny, I think his name is Manny Jacinto. He's the guy who plays chimera, the stranger, his wife posted, or his girlfriend posted a video of him on Instagram, like watching the finale. And he just looked locked in like he didn't even acknowledge that she was filming he was just locked into the screen and it cuts off right before that moment and i was like did he in that moment turn to the camera and be like what

the fuck was that why did they make it look so bad and she's like all right i guess i gotta cut the video there but yeah that was my only ugly thing i was just like oh god that was horrible yep that's fair that's fair i i don't have it as um i don't i wouldn't say ugly because it was a cool looking scene it just felt weird when they're just holding hands staring out at the ocean like oh we're gonna commit so much evil together right now and it's there is other ways to do it at different points it just felt it just felt odd to me so that that just that was just my one take and again i gotta say it i mean this can go either good bad or ugly r.i.p my dog sol solerston

i i i don't know his last name i think sol solerston just found skills right to me um i feel like also jedi should be able to stop a force choke by someone that is less powerful or i mean even if she's a virgin to the force and yada yada, I feel like that's reserved for mortals like you and me. Those are the humans, the wisecracking generals on the Death Star. They deserve to get choked to death. I feel like someone in the force, you're like, no,

I have this going through my body. I will not be force choked out unless you're dealing with a motherfucking dater who's in full-blown and they just died. And I'm just crushing larynxes. Shout out the larynx. I think I got that.

Nice. Yeah. That's today's vocab word of the day. The larynx. But now I'm like, it felt weird that, again, I love the scene. I love the moment. But I was like thinking in my head. And this happens a lot with, I'm sure, Force stuff and Jedi stuff.

Shouldn't the Jedi be able to stop the Force joke from happening? Maybe he was able to Force push her, but he was just in the moment like, I deserve to die. I'm not going to hurt her anymore. I don't know. That is the one thing. I think Saul was kind of just looking for a way out at some point. He had some real hurt in his heart. Some demons.

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Got to be eating good. Got to be eating good. Our boys in, in the acolyte too. I feel like if I think David, I feel like they weren't eating good. And that was part of the reason why we had totally anger and everything from the jet.

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So it's Mando, Boba Fett, Obi-Wan, Ahsoka, Andor, and this. So this is six out of six. It had its moments, though. There's a chance where some of its highlights were better, and i think a lot of them flopped a little bit comparatively but i do think it is last just like the story was a little thing yeah like even like we didn't love every second of book of obi-wan but i think both of those shows rose to a different level because it was like all right i'm watching ewan mcgregor's obi-wan And I got a scene with him and Hayden Christensen or, you know,

the book, book of Boba Fett. All right. I just watched him drop a seismic charge in the Sarlacc pits mouth. Like that alone, that scene alone is like, all right, it's better than the acolyte,

you know? And I, I do think book of Boba Fett might've been below acolyte, but they had like two and a half Mando episodes and that saved it. Another huge. Did you see Tamora Morrison's quote about that? He had a very funny quote about that this week. No. low acolyte but they had like two and a half mando episodes and that saved it completely another huge did you see tamora morrison's quote about that he had a very funny quote about that this week he said next season of the mandalorian he wants to hijack an episode as boba fett he's like mando came into my show and stole the show i want to do the same to his and at this point i'm like

yeah why not like do that let the mando people just do a book yeah all right now let's talk billy butcher let's talk the boys this season was pretty controversial again just overall broad stroke broad strokes broad strokes thought on season four a lot of people on twitter and a lot of people i saw were very down on it i wasn't nearly as down on it as they are i didn't i had stuff that i didn't love about it um but overall i thought it was enjoyable i didn't think like oh the boys has fallen off i didn't like that season it was a lot of setup for season five it felt like they were stretching this season but i don't know maybe it's just i like these characters i thought it was pretty pretty

enjoyable still yeah i i liked it i i think it was the the weakest of the four boys season so far um probably true that if that's what's going around in terms of thoughts out there but sounds like you're on the same page uh i think it's a lot of the same beats that we're used to and again i think i think it was like halfway through this season we found out that this is going to be the final season of the boys and it's like yeah i think it's about time i think they've kind of hit their their marks enough times and it's starting to get a little repetitive i i think i can't do the gross the gross that stuff anymore i think they've they've officially like i i have to close my eyes like i when they were sawing off the leg i'm like i'm not doing this i'm just not doing it some of the

bodies being ripped apart faces coming off i appreciate it i know they do it better than anyone else out there it's it's somehow gnarlier than invincible which is very gnarly show and it's cartoon so they can really do whatever they want and these fuckers just take it to the limit they're also can go a lot more x-rated and stuff um i know people are very upset the political stuff it wasn't remember we said going into the season we thought the political stuff was going to be like a problem or it was going to really be a little too heavy-handed i do think there were some times like but it wasn't as bad as i feared yeah um so that that was kind of honestly my main thing to skip ahead to my the bad the political stuff was my main thing there where

i wrote it almost went from a political satire to like a political parody. When we're building up to like, everything's going to happen on January 6th and make America strong again and make America super again. And you're doing even, I think the deep at one point, maybe in the penultimate episode did the womp womp, which was like a huge story. Remember when the guy said womp womp on television, just like when you're directly quoting politicians, that's when I start to be like, all right, I would rather you do a little subtlety.

And I know it's the boys. So the subtlety is not like their strong suit, but like just a little bit where it's not like, I want to still imagine that this is its own universe. And a lot of the stuff this season made like reminded me like, oh, they're talking about donald trump and fine you know where my politics lie but like it was just heavy-handed

yeah at some point i do like i i like escaping the world i'm living in right now yes and that's how i felt with the beginning seasons like when homelanders like destroying the plane and season one or whatever it's like i'm not thinking of like oh this is a commentary on the republican party it's just like oh this is like a crazy interesting story yeah a superhero gone rogue and they have everyone thinks they're great it turns out they're not so great i that was my favorite thing about the boys and then the whole entertainment aspect and money and power and how they're all corruptible that was what i loved about it and again um it's just like yeah it goes from satire to like commentary and listen like i do think there are some jokes that can obviously be made but it's like when you're really being heavy-handed with all you said january 6 make america super i'm like man i have

to live in this world i don't want to have to then like yeah go on get an hour of just brainless i can't already can't take like all the deaths gruesome death things, and now there's like four parts of the show I'm going to like now at this point. I'm with you on that. Again, it wasn't as bad for the whole season as I thought. Some of the Barb's were like Firecracker, whatever her name is.

She plays that role perfectly. But yeah, it's like we're really being very... It's like January 6th, yada, yada, yada. All in all, though, I still think it's like, we're really being very, it's like January 6th, yada, yada, yada. So, um, all in all though, like I still think a good season. Yes. Agreed. Like I, again, it's stuff I said about other shows that they've said about like the bear,

the worst stuff from the boys is still better than a lot of the stuff on television. In my opinion, better than a lot of the best stuff from the MCU lately, to be honest, we've talked about that. Yeah. my opinion better than a lot of the best stuff from the mcu lately to be honest we've talked about that yeah like this is it's still at least the boys has that factor of like what the fuck every episode you'll be like oh my god what just happened like that i'm looking at a giant penis right now like the mcu doesn't have those uh what the fuck anything could happen factors let me go through i'm just gonna go through my general the good for the boys season, and then you can pick on whatever you want to talk about as well. I thought the shapeshifter storyline was pretty good. I always enjoy like a, Ooh, we don't know anyone could be in the room with us. The way Aaron Moriarty played starlight while she was the shapeshifter was great. Like you could tell it was a different person. Everything involving Ashley this season, I thought was great.

I thought she was like actually a highlight for me, her being the leak, her being involved with the tech night shit, which that whole episode. Oh God. I forgot about that. Insane. The,

the fact that they shot sage in that episode and she like reverted back to baby talk was very funny. Homelander exposing victoria newman on live television was a truly shocking moment that felt like like i'm not on victoria newman's side but it felt like it like slipped through my hands like when he did it i was like oh my god four seasons of fucking hiding this for oh my god it's just happening right now and then butcher killing her was even more shocking like i i thought if anyone's dying in the finale it's a train or the deep i thought they were both kind of primed for like

you could kill off either one of them did not think newman was going to get it um and then him just even butcher giving into his tumor or whatever and the split personality like and he looks young at the end i thought that everything the way they handled that was great i thought the storyline with huey and his dad was well done sad obviously but pretty well done the post-credit scene soldier boy pretty awesome um and then the two other things kamiko finally having her moment where she's screaming no that hit you in the fields and i thought the gen v cameos were also well done where you didn't have to watch gen v to get it but if you did watch gen v it's it's a nice little treat for the fans that was that's what i had for the good i i co-sign all those and yeah i think with gen v um marvel does it

sometimes where it's like you haven't seen the movies i think even endgame if you didn't watch like more than like two marvel movies you'd be like oh that was a good movie and but it's like then if you saw you're like oh my god we met you you know tony's dad you got to meet his dad and blah blah blah so yeah there's definitely a lot of levels to that uh sage sage coming back and being like no i've been running this shit you know i knew that was good you're gonna fuck it up too which like she's smart enough to know home liner is a fucking moron in a lot of ways right so and she had that caesar line towards him she's like you're gonna be just like caesar yeah yeah yeah well he doesn't have a good ending um and homelander was like yeah

i am fuck yeah and i like as someone that obviously i'm rooting for the boys and against the evil supes i'm like man thank god sage is out of the picture she was a real problem and i'm like so mad at myself for not being like she's going to probably still fuck things up here because she's smart enough and she has her own real way around it. So I thought that was a really interesting character. And when she gets dumb

and she just wants to fucking eat shitty food, that was gross too with the brain poke through the eye. Disgusting. Disgusting. She's one of my favorite additions to this season just because you had someone in the room with homelander that could kind of serve on his level if not yeah above that uh i have to say the i i don't i didn't hear on the good list and i don't know if he just didn't put it on or if you have it on bad or ugly i did

like the basically billy butcher fight club reveal where it's like these are just he's talking to fake people you know he's talking so i i had that on my bad and it's not because i didn't like the story on i actually loved every scene with jeffrey jeffrey dean morgan i thought they played off each other perfectly the only reason i put it on the bad is i felt like i knew it from episode one like immediately i was like all right he's talking to his wife who's not there and then he's in scenes with jeffrey dean morgan every scene with him is just the two of them i was like he's got to be fake so when they actually pulled the reveal me and my girlfriend kind of viewed it more as like it's the reveal that he finally caught on

yeah yeah yeah was the audience supposed to know the whole time or was that supposed to be a reveal for everybody i don't know i don't know i liked but this is the thing i liked that the way that they did it and the reveal where you just see people like what the fuck is this guy that was good yeah he's legitimately crazy pouring the drink that was good yeah at the same point it was like they did that they had the conversations a lot and by the end i'm like all right i don't need another conversation with you two i understand what's going on i mean they kept raising the stakes or he kept being like i'm telling you i'm telling you i think that's what led to him you know just ripping newman apart newman getting ripped apart was i mean if you're going into the finale i mean like who's gonna die you're saying

like you said a train's pretty high on the favorite list a train and uh the deep are probably like plus 125 plus 200 the president's up there obviously ashley i thought they're gonna kill her for sure and her hitting herself with the fucking compound v and like her brain starts going people are saying like is she gonna become she hulk in this universe i said she is gonna be the most like disgusting vile superhero whatever you want to call it, because that's what she is in her core. And listen, anyone that's worked in corporate America knows someone like Ashley, and they are the fucking worst. That character triggered me more than any exploding dicks or people's family members getting murdered. So I'm excited to see what happens to her. Shout out to that actress because she plays that fucking – I'm going to say that cunt role so very well.

I think she would agree that Ashley is not the best. And some people are saying, cause Homeland or not Homelander, Billy Butcher kind of has like the snakes. That's like his power coming out of his chest and shit. They were saying, what if she has like Medusa hair? Cause the wig and that,

all that. I could see that as well. That would be great. Also got a shout out tech nines playlist. I fucking, that music was just, I'm like, Also, got to shout out Tech Nines Playlist. Fucking that music. It was just, I'm like, oh my God, we got nothing but bangers going on in the fruit cave right now. That was an insane episode. That whole episode is insane.

And there's times where my kids are like kind of just like pacing around. Like if one of them wakes up at like the wrong time, like, all right, like we'll hold you as you watch House of the Dragon. Just hope it's not like Damon going down to his mom or anything like that but that i was like if i even heard a footstep like pause we are not watching because i mean he's just like i'm covered in so much cum i'm like what is going on right now yeah but that's the stuff about the boys that keeps you in your toe so i do appreciate that for sure for sure and then uh the only two things that i didn't mention from my bad list i didn't like the fact that they nerfed starlight for the whole season every single scene with

starlight is her about to use her powers and then she's unable to i like seeing starlight kick ass so i didn't love that and i didn't really like the frenchie storyline either i think i just want him and kamiko to be together so this whole season felt like a waiting game of just like all right what can we think of for both of them to keep them apart till season five and every moment with them apart him denying the visitation and all that i was just kind of like i'd rather just they beat it together uh yeah no i'm with i think this whole season which i think we're going to get into with the bear i think it was a lot more i don't like not a lot i mean by the end of shitload happened right shitload happened, right? Yeah. The finale had everything.

Yeah. And that's the thing. With the boys, I always appreciated it. It's like you could watch every episode on its own and be like, oh, I got like something out of that and we're moving along. Which I always, one of my gripes with Marvel is it's not like that with a lot of their shows. Where this season, it wasn't, you still got stuff, but it wasn't like the finale. They did a shitload in. And I do think French, like the boys are probably a

good chunk of my favorite characters in the show the huey stuff with his dad awesome that entire thing of the mom uh being lumped into it as well but like mother's milk at this point like he's kind of just i'm not loving his scenes butcher is just like an outcast and it's like i i don't know like butcher is what really made me fall in love with the boys the first few seasons and he's kind of just going rogue which i understand is how his character is going to go and hopefully season five will be a little different like i've seen people speculating that he's the final villain of the boys like butcher like people are speculating on the boys reddit that butcher will at some point before the finale kill homelander and then huey will have to kill butcher in the end

that would be heartbreaking but i could see it happening i i'm more inclined to believe that the the cure the fucking you know genocide the superhero vaccine thing i think butcher might take that i might just kill the tumor because when he gave into the tumor it's like the tumor is running his body or something i could see that happening i think butcher probably will kill homelander and die with him but i don't know because then like yeah what is huey's final thing or whatever maybe he helps butcher in that i don't know yeah i do think there could be a huey butcher showdown and then a ryan homelander showdown right where it's like that too side of things i do think the most like delicious ending would be homelander getting hit with something that saps some of his powers and his entire identity and life is just gone and he has

to live like a normal like us so uh he has my body under the suit that would be incredible and then i had a quick three things for ugly um killing mallory just felt ugly just ryan killing her was so sad because she was like butcher's woman like the one that he could trust the one that was still felt like family to him just her getting thrown across the wall i was like that was ugly by the showrunners and grace that was grace i i i refused a lot i i was she's not dead right my wife said she's not dead right i'm like no no no i'm like i think that is her neck bone though but i didn't like that i didn't like that the giant dick at the end of the finale that in the literal sense was ugly and then any replay of web weavers web hole i was tired of seeing that by the end i was so done with web weavers oh i was so done with him i was like kill this

motherfucker now it's not even anything against him he's kind of a freak but he knows he's a freak but that i couldn't deal with the web hole anymore good good storyline with him though bringing him in and it's funny that invincible brought in like arachna Kid and the boys brought in Web Weaver and they were both rip off Spider-Man. I thought that was funny and the fact that he was like the no cap guy like when Huey was trying to fit in you'd be like oh yeah yeah no cap on God. I loved all the

nonsensical bullshit. Actually that episode did make me think though like Homelander has x-ray vision. Why doesn't he just look at fucking Huey and know that it's Huey under the suit or something? Or can he smell him or like, you know, I don't know. Whatever. I don't mean to pick it apart in that way.

I'm going to give you, I'm going to do another category here. Great. I'm going to give you two greats. Okay. Number one, great. The Homelander basic little episode where he's just going at all the people that raised him. That was, I don't know his, the actor's name, but people were emmy after this and then i watched anthony star yeah and i watched i was like yeah emmy that guy is that's so fucking haunting and like you're like all right he's

just gonna like cook that guy and that's gonna be the end of it he'll probably just murder everyone else and then what does he call like the sad room or something like that he just locks her up and all those people are just destroyed so that shot of him in the elevator that everyone's reposted of just covered in blood is like holy shit what a visual yeah and i i don't this might be more good than great but the ice skating where you're just like oh there's gonna be a lot of bad stuff that's gonna happen to these people on the ice right now there's a lot of sharp blades and you know ice makes a good canvas for blood and you just knew that shit was gonna go very very and my wife actually really liked all the um like the flying sheep and shit like that i didn't love it oh that was that was funny i thought that was pretty funny

um there you go the boys season four um and now on to the bear season three again this was not finale this week this was they put it all out at. I don't know if that's the best way they could do this at this point. And like, maybe it is because the way everyone watched this and binged it, but still with a show like the bear, I feel like it could be in the discussion for weeks, for months, but instead people have kind of moved on already.

A lot of people were disappointed by this season for a lot of the same reasons. People were disappointed in the boys. We talked about that. Like it's a lot of the same reasons. People were disappointed in the boys. We talked about that. Like it's a lot of stuff where it feels less connected than previous, previous seasons. It feels more like a setup than previous seasons. But still,

like I said about the boys, I enjoyed it. I really liked this season of television and like had a good time watching pretty much every episode. Every episode made me laugh. And I can't say that about most shows on television yeah and the fact it's nominated for all these comedy emmys everyone's like it's not a comedy it's a drama it's like i understand man they probably thought this is do they get to submit if they do they're like maybe there's an easier path for comedy emmys than drama emmy since like comedy is basically killed it

seems like recently it does ride the line too like those episodes are right on the comedy drama like yeah one thing i don't think you can so all right so i'll give my overall thoughts on the season i think it was it felt like a long setup season um i think you're just like what happened like my wife when it was over she's like what happened this season i'm like and listen the boys had that finale and it was like oh shit everything you know now we're cooking for the final season this one felt like a lot of flashbacks and a lot of like world building and this is the thing i understand why people did not like this season if they felt like nothing really happened it was more of a setup um it didn't hit the high points of fishes and forks which i think

fishes and forks is one of the best thing and the worst thing that happened to the show I think it got a lot of people on and made a lot of people go from liking the show to loving it but I also thought it set super high expectations for people coming in for the first time and then people continue to watch it we're like alright when are we getting the masterpiece episode

now I like it I like this season and I love I like the series more because i think it did a great job world building all those flashbacks it kind of like i i just like being around these characters now granted it's like a fucking heart attack every single time dealing with all the shit that comes with the restaurant business and these personal lives but man like i i really enjoy these characters the first episode of the season was like beautifully shot i said but man like i i really enjoy these characters the first episode of the season was like beautifully shot i said it's like i have to talk like jeff d lowe and

ken jack to be like what is it graphic design you know what are the set design whatever it is it's shot beautifully cinematography all that kind of stuff it was perfect and they don't really say a lot but they they tell you a lot um but this is this was my big takeaway from the season. So after the finale of season three, I was like, man, I feel like I know these characters so much more. Like Tina, the Tina episode. You learn so much about her. I went back to season one, and I've rewatched the first half of season one, and it makes so much more sense now. We hated Cousin in season one. Now you understand why he is the way he is.

You understand what the restaurant is before Carmi comes in. You understand what Carmi is personally and how he's viewed by Richie and everyone else. You know what Tina's about now that you have her story. Mark, everyone, every single character, you learn a lot more about this season. And I do think it

was like a full season worth of TV that had to go into it to make you feel like that. But I think it does suffer from the from the binge like you said i think if you did one a week you probably have a lot of people who are like what the fuck happened i think if you release two a week there are these like heavy episodes you could probably reach rewatch a couple times they're beautiful episodes to watch in terms of just the way they look i think people would be happier with them but maybe that's just the way that Hulu and even the fucking whole it's FX, but it's on Hulu. So it's not even weird.

It makes no sense. It's so in this fucking weird world. We're living in the 2020s with the digital world that I feel like that's part of the flaw of the bear. That's not even its fault. But I do think it does impact the way people watch it, talk about it, and, you know, look at the entire series as a whole. Yeah, I had just a few things each for this one, because it's hard to break down in the same way we break down the boys and the acolyte. The good, the first thing I wrote, the facts. I absolutely love the facts.

And them bringing in John Cena as a fact fact them bringing in the uncle fact this season and the uncle that scene where he's talking to them about the hauntings and he's like oh yeah it's a haunting and one of the facts just like what the fuck like it was making me laugh so hard the scene where they're ripping cigarettes and he's like why does it smell like cigarettes in here he said we're ripping darts like everything with the facts makes me laugh also you mentioned it tina's backstory episode it's my favorite episode of the season i thought it was so so so good in immediately making us care way more than we ever did about this background character not background character but she's not like carmy richie or sid or whatever like secondary to tertiary character that's yes

and to make her so likable and and so like this actress does such a good job she feels like tina like i can't imagine her i know she was on like nypd blue or something she played like cops in the past i i can't picture as anyone but this actual character i feel like this is her life story and that conversation between her and mikey oh my god like it pulled at your heartstrings in every way you wanted it to. It made you feel good. It made you feel sad. Made you, it was bittersweet because obviously what happens to him later on, just getting John Bertholdt back in the show. I love that every season he comes back for a little scene, a little cameo here or there. I thought that was all

fantastic. The last two episodes of the season, I thought, did the best job in feeling like previous bear. They actually felt like they moved the story along the most. For bad, it's not even bad stuff that I hated. It's just it didn't feel as focused, as we mentioned. And I felt like we didn't get enough Carm, Sidney, or Richie this season. My three favorite characters i like them i like them together i like seeing more of like we got it early on where they were arguing over the way the kitchen was working and stuff but it felt like almost like the empire strikes back

everyone's split off from each other and then you have to come back um and then ugly the only thing i had for ugly is the way that people are talking about ice chips the episode where nat goes into labor and you bring back jamie lee curtis people are talking like this is the most unwatchable episode of television ever they're saying it's far and away the worst episode of the bear i didn't even know that until i was done with the season pretty much like i think we talked about it maybe last week but just i don't know i didn't i didn't leave that episode being like the bear's the best show in the world but it was just another episode of the bear to me like and we didn't get the restaurant stuff and i know people like the restaurant stuff but the just the relatableness

of like the family dynamics that they put forward and how realistic it feels whenever jamie lee curtis is even in the fold i thought it was fucking great an emotional ending to that one family dynamics that they put forward and how realistic it feels whenever Jamie Lee Curtis is even in the fold I thought it was fucking great an emotional ending to that one where her husband shows up her husband by the way I wanted more of him in the season because he is so goddamn funny just always trying to do the right thing and always messing up and doing the wrong thing so yeah I guess I would put that in my bad as well not enough of Nat's husband I love that guy uh and I re-watched he's in season one obviously of nat's husband i love that guy uh and i rewatched he's in season one obviously and there's just a couple lines he has and everyone just like

loathes him but it's like he's not a bad guy no he's always trying to do the right thing yeah the fishes uh you know stuff when he brings the extra fish why the fuck would you bring it up it's just incredible i i also had no pro so i went into ice chips i heard a few things like oh it it was bad it was terrible um i heard it was super it was like uh fishes in terms of just getting your anxiety level up and i watched it now if you want to tell me like hey it's kind of not the jamie lee curtis character that we thought we were going to get from you know the first time but she's i think tried to groan, you know, alcoholic. She clearly has some fucked up shit, you know, dating back to the dad. Obviously, her son killed herself as well.

But I was fine with it. It was like, it did seem a little weird where she's talking about, you know, oh, this is how this kid was, and this is how that kid was, and it's not what you're expecting. So I'm like, ah, whatever. I can see some people not liking it. I'm fine with it the chaos of a delivery room is chaos i've been there twice i never want to go back again

um but then i read from again i i go on the reddit and stuff like that and a lot of people are like i have a mom who's like jamie lee curtis and that's exactly who she is and i'm like well if these people are telling me that and i'm like, just like David Chase with Sopranos and everything about Liv is his mom in real life. I feel like Jamie Lee Curtis's mom is one of the writers or director or whatever it may be. And there's there's a reason why this character played such a big role in Fishes in this episode. And obviously at the opening of the restaurant, she doesn't even attempt. Right. And she tells again, she tells that husband, don't tell them I'm here. Like, I feel like it's the first time they've seen each other since that night and it is kind of like a crazy uh and their hug is like their hug is nice like when they hug each

other and he's like what do i do and she's like just be there for her and then walks out like that was like a really emotional moment of television i thought you could have probably spliced in like going back and forth from the delivery room to the restaurant delivery room to the restaurant included more characters. But yet again, it wasn't the best episode of television ever. But again, only a Sith deals in absolutes. It wasn't the worst either. Yeah. And I think even like the thing where it's like I tell she doesn't want to listen to her mom.

He. Yeah. And it's like we all have done it with our parents. Even if you have good relationship with your parents, you're like right whatever mom i'm gonna do it my way and then we realize their way works and she's had three fucking kids obviously knows what she's talking about and she's begrudgingly starts doing it i love abby elli i loved abby elli back when she was on snl it's like and i the fact she's chris elliott's daughter will never stop blowing my mind i didn't know i did not know that could create such a great actress, let alone such a great-looking woman as well.

So shout out Chris Elliott, who is one of my all-time favorite, like, you know, big characters in SNL and just an all-time funny dude. I just learned that. Wow, that's crazy. Live on the pod, Bob, yeah. So she rules. Like you said, Jon Bernthal, every time, like, that's one of the best parts about this show being so flashback heavy

is they can just throw him in there. So you just basically getting like a fucking ace of spades you just throw down on the table at any time he absolutely crushes it i will push back a little i love the facts there were times where i'm like i'm being fact out right now and i wish that there was maybe they dispersed some of their stuff into the different seasons. I liked some of the haunting stuff. At some point, the haunting stuff got a little too much for me. And I some about John Cena just took me out of it. I don't know if it was really cameo with John Cena or just how ridiculous his character was at some point.

You think he's going to fuck up the buffing of the floor, right? You're like kind of full of anxiety with. But i think some people i think the facts and john scene in particular kind of split both ways as well as the uncle that you mentioned um but i do like there was also moments where i'm like i've just fucking love these these fucking big old idiots here right they're a little they're a little more self-aware about the facts than they have been in previous seasons right you felt that right yeah they get to the point where you start riding the line of like are they a parody of themselves at this point i think they they wrote it well this for me at least

they didn't didn't cross that line but yeah again weird cameos this season last season we got the episode with like melanie and odin kirk and uh sarah paulson right like all those people this season we got john cena and josh hartnett like that was when josh hartnett opened that door i was like what the fuck is he doing here it took me like 10 minutes i'm pretty sure that's josh hartnett right or is it just a dude who just really looks like josh hartnett but that is like the worst if your ex-wife is gonna marry josh hartnett like poor rich man he has enough and wants him to go to the wedding so bad. Like, that too. It's just like, oh. She's like, yeah, even if it really hurts, like, I want you to be there.

It's like, you know Richie's going to do it because he's a good guy. But let him just fucking drive around in his car listening to Taylor Swift instead. Best friend's dead. Ex-wife, Marion, Josh Hartnett. And like. At least he knows how to respect himself now. That's true. His whole, like, you tell his whole family, whenever they bring up family, it's like, oh, he knows how to respect himself now. That's true. His own,

like his whole, like you tell his whole family, whenever they bring up families, like, Oh yeah, mine too. Like he was basically raised by Donna. It sounds like,

yeah, that was her own set of fucking, uh, you know, craziness in herself. So that, that, that was,

I felt bad for Richie. And again, I think if you, I'm telling everyone, if you like this season, if you hated this season, no matter what you did, go back to season one.

And I'm telling you, it really unlocks a whole new universe. And I like the bear universe probably more than this season. And it just gets better. I just like hanging out with these people and seeing what's going to go on in their lives. And obviously you root for them. I like the computer. I thought computer was a fun character. And they're just like, if you fucking lay off Marcus, I'm going to fucking kill kill you he just these things in black and white he sees things in green right and i appreciate

that about him and he's clearly a guy that's the thing you bring in a character that has like that these people have known for a while you feel like they actually have known him for a while and the way they they interact i guess it's just good acting um cindy getting the new apartment i thought was gonna be a bigger deal i like i like the interactions with her and her dad marcus marcus was obviously bummed for the beginning of the season. I was happy once we kind of got him back in the mix. It was great seeing Marcus kind of get back into it. Tina's stuff.

Tina saying she was 46 years old and has no skills now and these fucking kids. That was about, as someone that has crossed to the other side of 40, that triggered the fuck out of me. My wife and I are like, yo, we're not that far from where tina is in this show right now and that is not cool man so i really need dave portnoy to stop fucking uh riding boats in the harbor because if god forbid something happens to him i am going to be like i don't know how i throw what i've done the last decade of barstool sports on a resume and have someone hire me so i'm just a dozen trivia champ that's all you need but like even you said like when tina goes into the restaurant and just the

way they're interacting with the customers having fun with everyone i'm sure that's kind of like you go to that the beef you expect to have that kind of banter the fact that like he just gives her the beef for free gives her the free black coffee, and she's just hanging out there. That made me feel so good. Yeah. I also, like, as someone that has done the job hunt for a while, like, that whole resume grinding, hoping for an interview, hoping for a job, that triggered the fucking, I wanted to throw up everywhere. That made me sad for her. I've seen, like, my mom go through that, you know? Yeah.

It's, like, it's so relatable. Even her just sitting there when she gets the free sandwich and she just starts sobbing. And like, she just wants that moment to herself and they all pick up on it and obviously help her out. But that moment was the acting was amazing. Even the scenes with her husband who was played by the guy who played

detective Batista and Dexter. He was like one of my favorite Dexter characters. The scenes where they're just talking about him getting laid off or whatever, and him not getting her, not getting a raise that he was waiting on a promotion. extra characters um the scenes where they're just talking about him getting laid off or whatever and him not getting her not getting a raise that he was waiting on a promotion like it all felt so real that episode and shout out io sydney she directed it there's the first episode she ever directed when we saw that we're like oh shit she crushed that you know obviously that's that's kind

of one of the one episode i feel like is being like universally loved by people yeah i think there's still some people who don't like it but i think a lot of people do i also heard somewhere that that her husband in in that episode is her husband in real life for like 30 years is that true i don't know i believe it because they the way they play off together was incredible and i read that somewhere and i was like again i don't know if it's 100 true but it would make sense if if it was true um i'm just going through the other characters here finding out that uh that one guy was sweeps was a uh baseball player and how he was like you steroids and shit like that i love that and that's something i never picked up on that he used to play baseball but i watched season one and there's a couple like lines in there about

how i played the cardinals and this that i was like oh shit like it was it was pretty interesting there's a lot of stuff that you miss uh get bring back the the guys uh chichi and the other dude to like run the beef i thought was a cool little uh like um way to and again you see them in season one so there's a lot of stuff that ties in together and i think when this series is over i think it's one of those things that you could just watch in a loop and you're gonna really feel like you know all these characters it's been one of those things that you could just watch in a loop and you're going to really feel like, you know, all these characters, it's a character driven show.

Of course, every show is a fucking character driven show, but this one in particular, I think is really good. And then what's his name? Um, Joel McHale. Like you just learned.

Oh yeah. Hey, what an asshole. Hate that motherfucker. You're just like, and you feel like car me in that conversation. Like the rage was building inside of me. Like, are you not acknowledging this? Like, are you really just like saying like, and you feel like car me in that conversation. Like the rage was building inside of me. Like, are you not acknowledging this?

Like, are you really just like saying like, he's almost like JK Simmons and whiplash. He's almost got that. Like, yeah, I pushed you to that level that you wanted to get to your, whatever it took. I pushed you there. Yeah. And it's going to, it's very interesting. If car me does realize he's doing the same thing to sit here by, you know, not being as tough on her, which she definitely is tough on her, but like changing the menu every night, making this thing an entire.

And now it's like I was hoping we were going to get in the season finale. Is she leaving to go with this Adam Spiro guy or is she staying? And now, obviously, that's going to, you know, go to next season. And then the review drops. I heard someone say, does Joel McHale, since he's no longer a chef, is he then the review drops i heard someone say does joel mckale since he's no longer a chef is he now the reviewer and he reviews carmy's restaurant and that's why he said motherfucker i don't know that was a good potential twist there i don't know if that's going to be the case um so obviously the review and the stuff with uh sydney is different. I just got a shout out.

It sounds like someone's trying to get out from under your desk. I just made someone drive off the road now. Yeah. Again, overall, I thought the season was going to be different. I thought it was going to go in a different direction where I thought the whole season, on the trailer was going to be about everyone from the bear trying to get claire back for carmy yeah and i feel like that's almost what season five is gonna or season four is gonna be because you're still in that moment where they had the facts go talk to her but like she's not like oh i'm i'll go on a date with them tomorrow so So I feel like you have to, but I don't know if you can just get them back together at the beginning of the season.

I feel like the whole season is going to have to lead to them getting back together. Maybe Sydney going off and starting her own successful restaurant. I don't know. Yeah, but I am excited because I saw some people say it felt like Hulu or fx asked for another season and they had three ready to go so they wrote this season to be a buffer in between the final season i would imagine the team behind this has the final season like blocked and loaded i think they shot some of it too right they said they shot i think they did originally it was that they shot them together and it's all done i think they started three with four and they have four someone four in the can so it does make sense if they just maybe

stretched it out a little the claire stuff like in the end like i hope he ends up with claire because she's obviously good for him but at the same point like joel mckale his mom his family for lack of a better term like they're all part and himself are all part of the reason why he's so flawed and fucked up as a character he's a great chef because of it but he's as a human he's getting fucked up it's gonna fuck up his business if he loses sydney because of it so there's a lot of like stuff up in the air like the whole i'm just happy it's not just i'm like i get back with claire now i'm happy yeah the show is much deeper than just like the girl and the guy ending up together that clearly like she's so she's almost like too fucking perfect.

You're like this goddamn woman is the greatest. She's a fucking doctor. It cares about all our patients so much. So I roll my eyes at every single person that wants car me and Sid to get together to all those people. That's that's just the most basic like, oh, he's the main guy. She's the main girl. Let's put them together. No, that's not the relationship basic like oh he's the main guy she's the main girl let's put them together no that's not their relationship i don't want to see that ever but at the same time i'm hoping richie gets together with the girl from uh olivia oh

i'm like they're perfect i'm doing the same shit with a much you know lesser character by the way he's flirting you know like they're flirting back and forth and there's a thing there sitting in the room there's nothing thing there. There was a thing. There's nothing there. There was a season two and it's continued to season three for sure. I also had a shot. I was like, I wasn't happy that the restaurant closed, but I was so happy. We went back.

We get the Olivia Cole. That was cool. She's making her speech by the end. The speech was awesome. And I guess kind of her like words to Carm. She's like, I don't want you to call me chef anymore. I want to call him by my name so i thought that was that was very cool uh she got nominated for an emmy i saw jimmy lee kurt i think they got none for like 26 emmys or something crazy so and the best nomination is bob odenkirk got nominated for like a guest appearance emmy and

they were like imagine he wins his first emmy from the bear after 15 years of playing Saul Goodman. That would be really funny. That would be whole shit. Never won one? I'm shocked. Bro, Better Call Saul didn't win a single award ever in its entire time on television just because they were always up against Succession and Game of Thrones.

They were always up against the best of the best. But they got nominated, I think, more than any other show that's never won. They have like a hundred nominations, zero wins. I famously, I said like first three seasons of Saul I was in on and I just couldn't do it. And I know people say it got better and people even like those seasons.

That's fine. It just wasn't for me. I watched the YouTubes to just know what happened. But the fact he never got it for any of the breaking bad stuff or he crushed his soul just as well um that that's mind-boggling but i'm also i've been out on the emmys as like a source for the best of the best when the wire was not winning shit not nominated for shit that's when i was like the emmys like they didn't go fuck themselves however However, this Emmy's coming up. You want the bear to win everything?

No. There is a bet. There is a bet. Did you see the bet? No. So, Unfrosted got nominated for Best TV Movie or whatever. TV Movie, I saw that. And Stephen Shea, proud as a peacock, the biggest fan of Unfrosted at Barstool, is like, I told you. And he's like, and then Jeff Dools like i told you and and he's like

and then jeff d lowe chimes in and he's like you know that's not gonna win blah blah blah and steven goes like if i'm if though if that i think jeff d lowe said if that if i'm frosted wins best movie i'm gonna throw my emmys in the garbage and steven says well can i have one of your emmys if unfrosted wins an emmy bet and jeff d lowe said yes you can so dj could win an emmy bet and jeff de losage yes you can so dj could win an emmy if unfrosted wins an emmy so i i'm like that's the only like i'm saying what the bear to win yada yada yada but it's like i just got to see if steven shen is just jeff de los emmy is on the line somebody's like a wwe like a match card like jeff de lo versus steven shea with like the emmy and a you know a pop tart in the middle emmy in the bank it's like a money in the bank yes so oh the other

thing was cicero like the whole thing where he's kind of losing his money like that's kind of hanging over our heads here we don't know how all that he's great in the show too he's awesome i just re-watched the episode where they go do the hot dog thing at his house that and that's where it's like you forget this show was a little like wacky in the first season all that everyone takes xanax remember it falls in the ecto they drug the kids right yeah and i was like oh this show is that's more of a comedy thing than kind of what it's become in terms of the drama so again i i just ask everyone if you if you don't hate the show go back and watch season one re-watch season one and it really does age incredibly well.

Incredibly well. I'm going to have to do that. You told me, like, episode one in particular, like, you'll already be like, oh, that and that and that. I got to do that for sure. Because I finished something the other day on Hulu. And the first episode of Dave started, which I love. I think it's a hysterical show. But I hadn't watched the first episode in years.

And even, like, doing that was fun and cool. And like, Oh look, that's that meeting. And I'll have to do that. That was not only the accolade, not only the boys, not only the bear,

but also Marvel news finale week edition of my mom's basement. Uh, I would say, yeah, finale week for sure. All capital letters too. And the hashtag all capital caps finale week. I hope you enjoyed the giant size edition,

90 minutes. We went here and we will be back next week. Early in the week, actually probably Tuesday. The episode is going to come out. It's going to be a Deadpool and Wolverine preview show. We're going to talk about Logan in that. And we're also going to pair it with an

interview with someone that's in the movie we'll tease for you so look out for that it's going to come out on tuesday and then of course on thursday night our deadpool and wolverine recap will drop we'll also see you if you're a house of the dragon fan right after the episode this sunday grinding in the basement grinding