My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 373 - ROBERT DOWNEY JR IS DOCTOR DOOM (AND MORE FROM SDCC)

Episode Date: July 31, 2024

Robbie and Clem discuss some personal news, the fallout and reaction to #DeadpoolAndWolverine almost a week out, all of the biggest San Diego Comic Con 2024 moments (like Robert Downey Jr re-joining t...he marvel Cinematic Universe as Doctor Doom), and more! #MarvelStudios #DoctorDoom #Fantastic4 #MCU **************************************** My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike! Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement presented by Barstool Sports, and welcome to a very special Hall H slash Comic-Con edition of My Mom's Basement. We're going to be talking all the Comic-Con news that was released last week at San Diego Comic-Con, whether it be Marvel. We have a little bit of DC stuff to talk about, a little bit of Penguin stuff to talk about. Obviously, though, there's the big news was in the Marvel realm. Since the last time we recorded Clem, something
Starting point is 00:00:36 pretty life-changing happened for me. Robert Downey Jr. was brought back to the Marvel universe, and he will be playing Dr. Doom. As you can see, Clem, if you're watching on a video platform, is dressed as Dr. Doom himself. No, what I'm actually referring to is I got engaged yesterday. The basement. It's a celebration, bitches. Oh, what a glorious day.
Starting point is 00:00:58 What a magnificent moment. Lady Fox officially will become the Lady Fox in holy matrimony. Big day for Bob. Congrats to you. Congrats to her congrats to both your families congrats to faith uh thank you this make this home a real home under the lord which is what we'd like to see and uh it's just awesome man like i tweeted out like uh that's a giant win for nerds worldwide get yourself a beautiful woman everyone said they say it a parcel of time but it's true it's like you outkick your coverage there's a reason we get hired here man we're just charming people we may not be your prototypical studs but we're studs in other ways and that's how bob bob landed himself an absolute gem so uh you guys here's the moment if you're
Starting point is 00:01:40 watching on video platforms drop to a knee i did it in Hoboken yesterday. I was very nervous about it. If you listen to my mom's basement, you probably know I'm a bit of a nervous guy. Last week, I was throwing up. I was just trying to plan out the moment. I was lying about up front. My girlfriend thought she was pulling up to like a barstool event. I had Rowan sending me fake texts about what his wife is going to wear so she could prepare her outfit.
Starting point is 00:02:04 It was all really going through my mind every pretty much every moment of the last week, except for when I've been doing my mom's basement or when I went to go see Deadpool twice. Like this has been my escape where I can go into the basement with Clem or go to the movies with Clem. He saw it. You know, I was in the office pacing around even last week, but then as soon as we went to the movie, I was like, all right, I can take a breather for a sec. And it's part of the reason maybe I love Deadpool and Wolverine as much as I did. Yeah, man, that's, it's going to be a magical time that you're always going to think back to like that week before and then boom, that moment. so it was very fun telling my fiancee oh see i get to say that
Starting point is 00:02:46 it was fun telling her about the last week about like oh my god i was so nervous about this i slipped at one point the day before that i proposed we're watching presumed innocent great show on apple tv by the way we're only four episodes in but fantastic jill and hall he's the man and i went to say oh my god i, I predicted that. And I went, oh my God, I proposed that. I mean, predicted that. And I was like, oh my God, it was like Austin Powers, moley, moley, moley. I just couldn't help myself. But when I told her that afterwards, she was like, oh, I didn't even pick up on that. She was so shocked. And not to get corny, but I've been dating my fiance now for four years i've known that i was gonna marry this
Starting point is 00:03:26 girl since like i feel like before i even met her in person like we met during covet time she messaged me on instagram it was like an instagram slide thing i drove out to ohio to meet her and i'm just so like happy that it's it finally happened you know like i was ready so long ago it was just a matter of making sure the moment was right and saving up and all that. But yeah, lady Fox, she's the best.
Starting point is 00:03:48 She's the best in the world. And you're the best in the world, Bob. Hey, shout out my guy being the one to get, you know, fished in, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:54 she, she, she, she threw the line to you and real Jew. It doesn't usually happen with such a beautiful young lady to be thrown into the basement. But I mean, Hey,
Starting point is 00:04:02 like I said, man got game. I got to ask. Cause like, obviously I know a lot of these answers, but I think the listeners at home would like to know, everyone who's been through an engagement and the terrifying, like, getting the ring, getting it in the house, making sure she doesn't find it, having to do the proposal, all that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:04:19 It's a lot. I basically told you I felt really bad, but, like, the last week I kind of went zero, dark, 30, 23, like our boy LeBron says, because I like, I don't want to text anything about it. And then she could potentially just happen to see it when she's walking by your phone or I already know you were bundling nerves. I didn't want you to be like, cool. And then all of a sudden you get a text about it and the anxiety bubbles up and you're puking like a Stan when he sees white. So tell the people at home, after you got the ring, where did you hide the ring in the house that you share with your lovely
Starting point is 00:04:49 fiance? Let me see if I could pull up an actual picture of it so I could provide a visual reference for everyone as well. But I figured the basement boys and girls would probably appreciate the hiding spot. I had my sister go and pick up the ring because she lives near the jeweler and shout out my guy abe and waldwick abe jewelers if you're in jersey this guy hooked it up he's the best um i don't have the picture on my phone but it was at the bottom of my avengers endgame collectible popcorn bucket which is usually in the it's like behind me as i do my mom's basement i have like you'll see it's a bucket with with an Ocean's Calling hat on top of it. I knew there was no chance she was digging to the bottom of that bucket.
Starting point is 00:05:30 But there was a little part of my brain that when I brought home the fuckable Wolverine bucket from the Deadpool and Wolverine premiere, I was like, Jesus Christ, I'm bringing home another nerd bucket. What if my girlfriend's like, all right, you want to get rid of the one from a couple of years ago now? I was like, you know, and that's not something she would ever suggest. It's just, I was going through every worst case scenario in my brain of how she could find out how I could slip, how someone else could slip. I went out this weekend with Tommy and Ria and Marty was Ria's birthday. We all went out down the shore. I was terrified because they all knew. And I was like, what if someone gets drunk and they mentioned something? So I was trying to tell everyone we have upfronts, we have a work event, we have a business event. And then
Starting point is 00:06:09 Dave just so happened to be in the office on Monday. And it was the perfect cover up or narrative where I was like, Oh, Dave's in the office for upfronts. She saw it on Instagram or Twitter or whatever. It seems so real. After the engagement, she was asking me questions like she didn't know what reality was she was like wait was dave in the office even real i was like yeah that was real it was just coincidence i flew in he's a real big bob fox man i said dave we really need to sell her office that's that's incredible i didn't even put the two together because you even texted me like you're not going anywhere this week right because i don't want to say hey clem's going to
Starting point is 00:06:42 be at the upfront but then you're posting pictures in like Florida or at the beach with the kids. And I was like, no, I'm around. And again, I just was like off all social media as much as possible. Because I don't want, it's like a surprise party. If you tell me about surprise party, I won't run the surprise.
Starting point is 00:06:55 I just will not even acknowledge your existence for like 72 hours beforehand. So, I mean, that's awesome. I would imagine you were like, again, you said you were the bundle of nerves, just having it in the house. Again, the hardest part, I say this to anyone else who's listening, who, you know, has the one or pop in the question down the road. The hardest part is
Starting point is 00:07:14 finding the person you could pop the question to. And then I guess finding someone that will say, yes, if you have either of those things up in the air, I imagine it's a lot harder, but like, once you get through that, all, this is all just little stuff. You want to make it special. It's a once in a lifetime moment, hopefully for every every person on the earth. So it was just like incredible to see. And then the other thing that I know always freak people out is once you have the ring on you day of, you're worried about losing it. You're about getting stolen. You're about her noticing it. But can you give us a little preview of what the ring looked like in your pocket before you dropped to one knee?
Starting point is 00:07:46 So this was this was another thing. I didn't really prep for when it's the ring box. You know, you want to do the thing where you open the box fucking ka-chow. And when I put it in my back pocket, she was pulling up in an Uber and I had her like she sent me all my Ubers, whatever. So I could see she's four minutes away. Let me put it in there. The ring was so big in my back pocket. Owen, who took the picture, shout out Owen from Barstool as well.
Starting point is 00:08:15 He was calling me BBL Robbie. Look at the ass on that guy. That's America's ass right there. I mean, they was bulging out. And then when I was trying to, like, take it out, it wasn't coming out. I was reaching. There's pictures of me fucking fist deep digging in there. I said it was like Mjolnir.
Starting point is 00:08:31 I was trying to pick up the hammer and it wasn't fucking budging for me. Eventually, I got it out as I was like dropping to a knee. I had to like fill for time. You know, it was it was stressful. And I'm sure in the moment it was probably 10 seconds. But in my head, it felt like it was in there for the sure in the moment it was probably 10 seconds but in my head it felt like it was in there for the entire runtime of Oppenheimer I was just fucking tugging at that ring like I love you so much and I want to ask you a question and it's there's no event tonight
Starting point is 00:08:55 and it's just us it was it was stressful you know but I'll tell you what the feeling afterwards of like happiness and joy and relief and calmness the best feeling in the entire world like just having a glass of champagne afterwards just going home having that first post-engagement joint that was a great relieving smoke that was the other thing i beat the week before i got engaged when i would smoke i would get a little paranoid, which is so unlike me. Like I know I had the heart attack story back in the day, but usually I'm very calm when I smoke, I would smoke and get so paranoid that I'd have to go into the shower. So my girlfriend didn't see me like, Oh my God, it's about to happen. It's about to happen. But yeah, it's, it's, it happened. Everything went to plan. Everything was perfect. I think she's so happy with it. I'm
Starting point is 00:09:44 so happy with it.'m so happy with it we got some nice pictures so let's talk about some nerd shit because i know some of the nerds listening to this are like we don't care about the lovey-dovey bullshit robbie we're hey the basement is also a place for people who have no interest in you know finding a forever life mate that's it's the safe space for them as well if that's the case just make fun of bob for being so nervous it looks like he shit his pants today. It was good. Cause that looks like you just shit your pants. Cause you were so scared.
Starting point is 00:10:08 And again, though that bend to the knee, everyone who's done, we'll say it's the longest moment of your life. Everything goes in slow motion. And then if you can't get the ring out, I can't even fathom it. So shout out to you guys. And I also got to shout you out for absolute perfect timing. I know she's about to go home for a few days and you know she all her friends are married yeah and they've been you guys have been
Starting point is 00:10:29 dating for a while so she gets to like show the ring off hey girl get to do the whole thing talk that's the reason i did it on a monday i know some people are like why'd you do it on a monday we're going back to her hometown columbus on wednesday so i planned it where she could see her mom and her friends and all her family and stuff. And then pop punk is playing a show in Columbus Friday night that a bunch of her friends are coming to. We're having a fucking huge celebration.
Starting point is 00:10:52 If you're coming to see pop punk in Columbus on Friday or in Nashville on Saturday, we're celebrating. It's going to be a great, great celebratory night. All right, let's get into some nerdy stuff. My mom's basement, you know we're talking nerdy stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:09 I figured before we even get into the Hall H Marvel stuff, let's do a little Deadpool fallout. Since we did our review before it actually dropped, let's tell everyone, biggest rated R opening day and weekend of all time, the sixth biggest domestic opening ever with 211 million closing in on half a billion right now i'm sure it's over half a billion we're just waiting for the updates to come out and a 97 audience score on rotten tomatoes this thing is absolutely beloved even maybe more so than i thought it would be. And I'm so delighted about that.
Starting point is 00:11:46 It's so much fun to have a movie, this beloved by everybody universally. And we're all texting about it. We're all posting clips. People I sent you today are posting bootleg clips on Twitter that Disney's not even taking down. And Sean Levy, the director is quote tweeting them. Sean Levy, Levy, whatever his name is. He's fucking quote tweeting bootleg clips.
Starting point is 00:12:06 I think word of mouth is just so good for this that they're like, we don't give a fuck. We want everyone talking about it. We want everyone coming back to the theater to see it. I saw it twice at this point. I'll probably go back a third time. And I can't say that about a lot of movies in general, not just superhero movies,
Starting point is 00:12:21 Marvel movies, Star Wars movies. There's not a ton. It's so much fun though, that I haven't stopped thinking about it. And it's not just superhero movies marvel movies star wars movies there's not a ton it's so much fun though that i haven't stopped thinking about it and it's not just fun like there's great performances the clip i sent you of just hugh jackman freaking out at deadpool i don't think that's too much of a spoiler the one in the car yeah guys we're gonna we won't do any spoilers you haven't watched yet listen we opening weekend you figure most people go i know
Starting point is 00:12:43 brandon clancy came and go till today, Tuesday as well. And I know he's a diehard. It's like, you're out here on vacation, you're with family, you just have like work, you have life gets in the way. So we'll keep it, if you want spoilers, we have a fucking like hour long video where we just talk nothing spoilers and geek out about it. But this is the
Starting point is 00:12:59 post movie, like just review of it all. And when I saw the Rotten Tomatoes score, I was like, holy shit, it really did hit. Cause you were hearing a couple of things. Like, again, it's not a perfect movie per se,
Starting point is 00:13:10 but for like what it is, I think it's, it's great. It's fantastic. And it's a fun ride. And I mean, they're, they're eclipsing.
Starting point is 00:13:17 We didn't get the latest numbers, but I, I'm just going to say they hit a half a billion opening weekend. Yeah. By the time this comes out, they hit it. Yeah. From the time they opened till now,
Starting point is 00:13:25 half a billion dollars, ridiculous for any By the time this comes out, they hit it. Yeah. From the time they opened until now, half a billion dollars. Ridiculous for any movie, let alone a rated R movie, which really limits, you know, the amount of people that might see it because of the gore
Starting point is 00:13:32 and all that kind of stuff. And again, the basement boys, we went into that. It's kind of like probably you with that knee. We went in excited with also like
Starting point is 00:13:40 the twinge of like, all right, there is like a one in one million chances could all go terribly wrong. But we're not going to think about that. And again, just like with you, everything came up with W. And again, you know, you have a good one, Robbie.
Starting point is 00:13:51 When she said yes to you after what I imagine was you just talking about deadpool things to her nonstop for 72 hours over the weekend. Remember when spoiler happened? I mean, nonstop. When I tell you I've been watching every single Hugh Jackman, Ryan Reynolds video that is on the internet, it got to the point where I was like, hey, just let me know if you're getting sick of these. Because I had watched like five in a row. She was like, yeah, we could change it on the next one. I was like, okay, understood. Like, there's just so many things. Oh, and when they did this and when they did that, remember when this person showed up?
Starting point is 00:14:23 And this is actually a reference to years before this happened. And this guy wanted to, and this, and she's like, all right, I got it. Even she asked me the night before we got engaged, she was like, Oh, I'm going to get my nails done again soon before we go to Columbus. Maybe like, do you have any ideas for me? And the, the real part of me wanted to be like, maybe something traditional classic. I think you would want for photos. But I was like, I got to throw her off the scent. So I was like, I saw Blake Lively just got Deadpool's mask on hers. She's just like, all right.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Another thing I wanted to bring up while talking about Deadpool, though, I teased the dog pool screening when we did our recap, I was like, yeah, I'm bringing my dog to the movies to see this movie. I don't know how it's going to go. Clem, it went better than I ever could have imagined. The dog pool screening was awesome. Showed up at I Pick Feeders in South Street Seaport, which is beautiful. Just a nice area. Bring your dog to the dock and stuff. So it's Faith's first time in the city in general.
Starting point is 00:15:29 And she was so well behaved like we went you take a picture with dog pool on the red carpet which i haven't gotten that picture yet i'm still fighting to get that picture i don't know where it is in the fucking disneyverse dog pool did growl at faith a little bit they told me i was like gonna bring faith up take a picture with her blind Blind Al was also there. Leslie Uggams. She gave an intro for the movie. So wholesome. So great. And they were like, we're going to judge the comfortability of Dogpool and your dog, Peggy's, Dogpool's real name. And they were like, we'll judge the comfortability.
Starting point is 00:15:57 She's not always as friendly with certain dogs. So I go over there and she growls a little bit of Faith. And I was like, oh, Faith, never meet your heroes. You know, it was a sad moment. But we take a picture, which I'm still hoping to get. Go into the into the theater you put a wee wee pad down you had your own kind of pod there's probably 20 dogs in the theater i don't think there was one bark during the entire movie it was crazy they they barked when people cheered before the movie which was adorable because it was as if the dogs were cheering with us um And the whole place went crazy when dog pool showed up on screen. It was like the one thing in the movie
Starting point is 00:16:27 that the theater cheered for because there were dogs in the theater. They had to turn it down so much that you really had to listen to get all the dialogue. So it wasn't as much cheering and uproarious laughter, but shout out Disney for inviting us to the dog pool screening. Faith's first movie, probably her last movie.
Starting point is 00:16:44 I can't imagine we're going to be bringing her to the theater very often but she sat through the whole movie laid down was good i fed her popcorn because i was like what's a movie without popcorn it was great i mean bark at the park when they do that with baseball games that makes sense because you're outside and they have the dog peas you just hose it down and that goes with all the popcorn and drinks that spill throughout a game a little different when you're doing it in indoor movie theater especially i-pix which listen if you have an i-pick near you you've never been to i my i saw infinity war at the i-pick before closed down not too far from me and it's incredibly these little like if you get like the nicer seats
Starting point is 00:17:18 they're little private pods get some blankets on it's like you're on the couch you're in your own like you feel like you're you're i took my shoes off i felt like i was literally like at home watching it's incredible and then obviously uh I was hoping there was going to be the case like I feel like they have to turn the volume down and make it like dog friendly so it sounds like they did and based on like listen I think Ryan Reynolds might have went a little heavy with the dog pool and I wasn't surprised by it I think I'm not surprised I wasn't surprised surprised at the amount of screen time he got. I imagine he will be back for every Deadpool from here on out.
Starting point is 00:17:48 And I imagine there will be dog full screenings from here on out as well. So hopefully we get those pictures. We figure out pictures to be smoothly transitioned for the rest of the way. And he mentioned her as well. I'm going to share this on the YouTube for the people that are watching the rumble. Leslie Uggams, the young picture of Leslie Uggams was shocking to me shocking she was a fox
Starting point is 00:18:07 back in her day that is blind out and how about this we might just not be aware of her superstardom because when i said that to large he was like oh my god of course leslie uggams was a fox back in her day i had a crush on her and then when i told my mom that she did the intro for the screening my mom went oh i love leslie uggams and i was like, what do you know Leslie Uggams from? And she goes, everything. I was like, okay, mom. Oh, Mama Frock's getting sassy with it, too. And honestly, I told you she was the opposite of Blind Al. Blind Al, you know, in all of the Deadpool movies is just motherfucker this, motherfucker that. You know, she's like a bad bitch, fucking guns stocked in her apartment and everything. To the movie intro that she gave, it was like, oh, Peggy, she's such a movie star.
Starting point is 00:19:01 And your dogs could all be movie stars. I hope this inspires your dogs i couldn't believe the direction peggy took she really steals the show i'm in this movie just in a small part peggy's the star it was like so wholesome and even when leslie uggams showed up on screen people you know cheered for her so it's like nice to see that she got that as well yeah i i love leslie uggams too just like mama fox and large do uh just an incredible i'm gonna have to go back and like look at the imdb and see what else she's in because i gotta see her cook because she's apparently beloved and again you're younger than me but
Starting point is 00:19:36 even that's above my head so if we're dealing with large you know we're dealing gen x stuff so shout out to her she's absolutely awesome and she's so funny in the movie too like i was happy that we got a good amount of her in the movie where they they let her get some jokes in yes agreed agreed um all right now let's get into the fun announcements the stuff that i'm sure everyone's listening to the podcast for today marvel's hall h panel at comic-con when i say hall h by the way that's the the main event of comic-con that's the biggest hall that's the biggest arena when people say hall h that's that's wrestlemania level stuff um and they they said they're gonna focus on just three movies that was kind of a fib they mostly
Starting point is 00:20:18 focused on three movies those three movies being captain america brave World, Thunderbolts, and the Fantastic Four First Steps. That's the new title of the Fantastic Four movie. It was moderated by Peter himself, Rob Delaney, which I thought was nice to bring him in. And I'm sure everyone loved Rob Delaney. They started with Captain America, Brave New World. They said it returns to the grounded level of the Winter Soldier. Giancarlo Esposito, His character is called Sidewinder. And he is the leader of the Serpent Society.
Starting point is 00:20:48 There will be the Celestial in the Ocean from Eternals addressed. He's also made of adamantium. All the Eternals apparently made of adamantium. Which is very cool. And they showed footage where Harrison Ford's Thunderbolt Ross turns into Red Hulk. While giving a speech at the White House in front of everybody. So it might not even be a secret in this movie. And I just wanted to throw this in as well. Harrison Ford, when asked about who would handle snakes better,
Starting point is 00:21:16 Thunderbolt Ross or Indiana Jones, he said, and I quote, I've always treated these questions with both the utmost respect and complete disdain. I will not answer that stupid question, but thank you for the opportunity. Our boy's cooking. He's back. Han Solo is back. Absolutely. Treats those questions like his landing gear on his airplane.
Starting point is 00:21:40 He has no attention. Yeah. Everything I saw about Captain America Brave New World excited me, especially more than anything, them saying we're returning to that grounded level of the Winter Soldier. Because when we saw the trailer, I said, oh, it actually does remind me of the Winter Soldier a little bit. And I feel like that's the lane for this Captain America to go.
Starting point is 00:22:01 It's going to be great. I mean, Sam Wilson is Captain America without super soldier serum. He's just the guy. You've got to bring it down to that winter soldier level. You better because he doesn't have the PEDs that your boy had rushing through his veins, which kids are probably imitating. Listen, people love the
Starting point is 00:22:18 steroid era. People love Maguire. Everyone loves home runs. Can't deny that. Seeing Harrison Ford do the red hulk like pose i was like that's hilarious it's also kind of sad that he's probably at the same time like i can't believe i'm going to do this for the millions upon millions of dollars i'm getting invested but it was hilarious at least he's buying into it you know harrison ford style that's all i can ask the thank god we get to celestials finally getting a dress after all the memes that have come out.
Starting point is 00:22:45 The Serpent Society. Again, we're going to have to have Jose in just to like explain all the stuff from this announcement as well as like future Marvel stuff. Is Serpent Society, is there any Hydra? Like those are both Serpent-y, right? So could he, could that potentially be part of this since it is a Captain America movie after all? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:03 And there was rumors that the Serpent Society was one of the things getting cut from the movie when they did like the fucking 10th round of research reshoots or whatever it's like that joke in the boys where they're like it's the most expensive movie we've ever made because we just wrapped up our you know next session of reshoots but seth rollins the wwe wrestler is one of the people in the serpent society we saw that from set photos. So I kind of hope that they didn't fully get cut because I, I obviously they didn't, if he's the leader of the serpent society, but I want to see Seth Rollins in a little role, kind of like we got GSP, like that's another like Bob Fox connection. I know not everyone will be stoked about that, but yeah, listen, this movie, I still worry about, like we talked about when we talked
Starting point is 00:23:44 about the trailer because it was made in that last Marvel era where they were cranking stuff out as quickly as possible, I think. But I have faith. I have to have faith as a Captain America guy. And who knows? Maybe we get Cap on the moon at the end of this one. That'd be crazy. Old man Cap. If they get, yeah, say the movie is a seven, six and a half, seven. They hit the right notes with the right post-credit scene, the right, maybe two to three, like, oh, fuck moments.
Starting point is 00:24:13 You can walk out of the theater, right? I think Deadpool is giving everyone a little bit of a cushion with some of this stuff, even though it's from a completely different universe. I have said, like, I'm on the record between this and thunderbolts if they get like if they shoot one for two with those being like movies that people really like that's a huge win for the mcu because i do think fantastic four is the one it's going to deliver and i do think it's going to be such a fucking big moment and then you're dealing with avengers movies where i feel like we're going to be in good hands we'll'll talk about it in a bit. This, again, I just keep going back to the show with Cap and the Winter Soldier, and I'm just like, it was all right.
Starting point is 00:24:51 It had its moments, and they also flopped some stuff. So, hey, Harrison Ford's awesome. Giancarlo Esposito's awesome. So, like I said, got to have faith, got to go in. I don't think I'll be turning the Trusted Flaggy layout on after it. There's nothing I'd like more, though. Because, again, I feel like the basement, like, I feel like there's some momentum after that Deadpool. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:10 There's some momentum. Absolutely. And the momentum, I think, without spoiling Deadpool and Wolverine, I think what helps the momentum is the fact that they acknowledge some of the mistakes or some of the things that people don't like, even in that movie. It feels like they're putting all their cards on the table and saying, we get it, bear with us. And I like that about the movie. And I like that about even the press tour felt like that.
Starting point is 00:25:38 I loved, one thing I didn't even have in my notes, but I thought I wanted to bring up. Kevin Feige said the response to x-men 97 makes him really excited about how to bring that soap opera into the mcu and i was like oh he used the phrase soap opera yes that's what we got out of x-men 97 and that's what we want more of so him saying that i was like oh i think they get it i think they understand from x-men 97 and from deadpool and wolverine what the audience wants again. I hope so because you know,
Starting point is 00:26:07 we'll get to the announcement they made later on, which the audience was very split on. Like a lot of people didn't like that announcement. So you, and you mentioned him too. It's funny. You mentioned him because I think this was made at a time where the MCU, everything's moving along.
Starting point is 00:26:21 And it was in that kind of like rudderless phase. I hope during these reshoots, which is now in post that, you know, now that we're starting to fix the problems, I hope like some of those reshoots was Kevin Feige going in, putting his sleeves up and, you know, getting in themselves being like, Hey, let's do this. Let's do that. Giving some of his notes because I feel like those are the things that will be like, yes, that ruled in this movie.
Starting point is 00:26:43 So hopefully him maybe being more hands-on with a couple of things could fix this. I'm already saying it needs to be fixed. I haven't seen it yet. I'm just going in with like, I don't want to say low expectations, but just like realistic expectations. And we're at a point now where I want post-credit scenes to start linking
Starting point is 00:27:02 and connecting. Yes. That was something that we didn't even get i feel like there's a little bit of revisionist history when people talk about the infinity saga where they're like everything was looped in and perfect not everything was perfect in it most of it was towards the lead-in to the final avengers movies though everything from like civil war to those avengers movies did really feel like it was building to something and you were building to what became like the greatest culmination ever. McFeely was a big part of that. Marcus and McFeely were the writers on all of the Russo brothers stuff. Um, and they were a big part
Starting point is 00:27:34 of crafting that universe and getting it back. We'll get to McFeely returning a little bit later, but the fact that he's back involved, I hope he kind of is able to map things out and say, okay, Captain America's post-credit scene should be with Val and it should lead into the Thunderbolts. And the Thunderbolts could lead into whatever, you know, Avengers Fantastic Four thing. And that should lead in everything should start linking and building back up. We got a couple of those in this phase that were decent with Shang-Chi, you know, in the rings and the bangle. And we're looking at ancient things and we have a bunch of Avengers together again. And then it's like that was three years ago and nothing has been addressed since. You know, you need to start building back up, which I have faith that they'll do that as well.
Starting point is 00:28:18 We got fucking Jon Snow. Tease about Jon Snow coming in and that's just vanished. Right. A tease about Jon Snow coming in and that's just vanished, right? The voice of Mahershala Ali, who knows if that guy's even going to be like, he's going to be like Wesley Snipes' current age by the time that Blade movie gets announced. Because that was another thing. Everyone thought we were going to get something about Mahershala Ali or an update in any way at Comic-Con. Nothing at Comic-Con, which we still have D23 on August 9th. So who knows? Yep, exactly.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Also, you said Hall H was like the main event the show and i said to you i said hey is there anything else you know that people are saying is going to be bigger because obviously we have dc and you know could be house of the dragon even though they have their little studio things that they could do on their own as well as star wars obviously they have um the star wars what is it star wars celebration and you were like nah really just marvel and good work by everyone not having anything because they would have just gotten wiped off the fucking page if they had as it turns out everyone knows just leave the night to them like they're gonna
Starting point is 00:29:15 get all the headlines it's almost like wrestlemania where wrestling companies aren't booking a show against them um before we get into the rest of this stuff let me remind everyone that the pfl playoffs kick off this friday august 2nd with women's flyweights and heavyweights headed to nashville it's win or go home as fighters compete for a spot in the million dollar pfl world championship don't miss the action friday august 2nd again it's 9 p.m on espn and espn plus 9 p.m eastern it's a great card jack mack and big big ever going to be in the building for it. I'll unfortunately be in Columbus, but you know,
Starting point is 00:29:48 I'll be trying to watch that on stage. I'll have it on my phone on the amp probably because it's going to be a great night. Again, the heavyweights, a lot of knockouts, women's flyweights, Dakota ditch of a,
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Starting point is 00:30:14 Now we get into the Thunderbolts portion of the panel. They had David Hopper there as our David Hopper, David Harbor, who plays Hopper. He was there as Red Guardian. He was in costume, which was kind of cool to see see we didn't learn a ton about thunderbolts we got less than i thought we would i thought they would show footage and a trailer and stuff i don't believe they did that um at least not footage that i saw not footage that leaked but sebastian said florence pew is the standout of the movie and we learned that the concept here is that the Thunderbolts are all
Starting point is 00:30:46 individually hired for the same job, not realizing it's a setup to get them together. I assume by Val, Julia, Louis Dreyfus, who was at comic-con cool to see her at comic-con. It's like some actors that you wouldn't expect in the MCU. You know,
Starting point is 00:31:02 Harrison Ford is a big one where people are saying you're in the 616 who do you think the anchor being is or whatever and he's like 616 I don't know what the hell you're talking about and he goes to the next person or Julia Louis-Dreyfus um Thunderbolts is another one where it could hit it could hit on a great level where you have all these rejects and outcasts and make a great movie about that it could also really be a swing and a miss and i don't know where it's going to land i hope they lean into once again the winter soldier grounded kind of like gritty maybe even a violent mcu side but i don't know i'm excited to see more of uh john walker the u.s agent i thought wyatt russell played him really well yeah i think
Starting point is 00:31:45 that can i think that might be like the most pivotal role in it where i think if he crushes you could have enough fun with it and he carries it enough and then the ensemble against i think florence pugh could be awesome as well uh at the same point this is by far out of the three that we're going to talk about this was like i cared the least about i honestly when you were telling me i was like i don't know if i even knew what the announcements were i guess there really weren't many now that i think back to i think they did show footage i'm thinking there was a tweet that said there was something about like florence p walking in and hopper calling him dad or something but oh there was like nobody was even really tweeting about that stuff so
Starting point is 00:32:20 that worries me a little yeah i mean you get caught between captain america and avengers fantastic four avengers yeah exactly that that that'll tend to happen but i guess part of me is and i got i didn't see the first one i almost i'm like i could take in terms of quality maybe something in between suicide squad and the suicide squad and because that's what everyone's comparing this to right so it's like maybe better than the first suicide squad which i was told was not very good and the second suicide the suicide squad which i saw and i liked i don't i won't even ask for that level which by no means a perfect awesome movie or anything but it's like aim small miss small don't completely botch it again i think certain moments and certain connective tissue, post-credit scene, all that stuff could make this like a better movie.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Again, is this going to be a thing where they go, all right, we're going to do this afterwards. Feige thought of something to kind of like make it better. If so, that's fine with me. I'm just not going to be – I'm not dying to see this movie. I wouldn't – I would have seen an opening weekend. This would be like a Sunday afternoon viewing if we didn't have the podcast, I think. Yeah. They also put out a poster.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Did you see the poster with the bullets on it? It looks like the Walmart logo. Really? It's like a strange, like it looks just like the Walmart logo. They might have to change it for like a copyright reason. It's a little weird i i read a thing saying like does it all take place in a walmart and i was like wait yeah it's a joke or is this serious because that would be actually i kind of would love that
Starting point is 00:33:57 do you all right quick quick left turn on the podcast i'll try to make this quick i love just going for like a good wall like sometimes if i have to to get something, I'll just go, I'm like, yeah, I'm going to spend like 20 minutes here. And so there's even times where I'm like, you know, I'm going to treat myself $20 at Walmart. I'm going to see how much fun stuff I can get under $20. And it's always a blast to have. Absolutely. I'm more of a target guy. If I'm being honest, I would prefer a target, but I have a,
Starting point is 00:34:22 like a couple of Walmarts near me and i like going to a walmart every now and then you know what i like a walmart is when we're on the road like when we're doing a rough and rowdy or something me caleb and roan would go shopping for their wacky outfits or something together i'd take a walk down the toy aisle the lego aisle the electronic aisle oh the best yeah i when i'm too old to go to that toy, I'll just put a fucking, yeah, put it in my head. Cause I've apparently worn out my welcome here on earth and nothing will get you more in the rough and ratty mode than going through a Walmart. Cause no matter where you are in the country, I go to one in Connecticut.
Starting point is 00:34:58 It's in a pretty nice spot. It feels like I'm in the middle of Florida. It's like, no matter where you are, it's incredible. Also a point I wanted to make about the Thunderbolts and it might be too late to incorporate this because of deadpool and wolverine but i thought one of the biggest strengths of deadpool and wolverine was that a lot of the quote-unquote cameos were like actually characters in the movie it wasn't just like oh remember that person point to him and that's it they like actually serve a purpose and serve a role and marvel has so many characters even people that we haven't seen brought
Starting point is 00:35:30 into the movies ever or people that we haven't seen brought into the mcu this universe where i think it's worth it to like introduce us to comic book characters that we love and give them a 10 15 minute role in the movie so it's not just, oh, remember that guy? It's just an exciting moment for the movie. Thunderbolts is the perfect place for that where there's a lot of random outcasts in the MCU that you can redeem in the same way that Shang-Chi redeemed the Mandarin. That was awesome with Ben Kingsley.
Starting point is 00:36:00 I would love to see even Ben Kingsley in this. You could bring him into the Thunderbolts in a small role, just like he had in Shang-Chi. So I hope we get a little bit of that and we don't know the full team yet, or we don't know the full cast. I, that's actually a great point. You're,
Starting point is 00:36:14 you know, as these movies keep coming, you keep getting more, uh, Marvel character. The roster keeps growing. Cause you know, you have the rights and stuff has expired on old contracts and stuff.
Starting point is 00:36:29 So yeah, throw those in, have fun with it throw wong in all these fucking movies too yes love wong right um what was the name of tim timothy roth his character uh the abomination like we loved him and she hulk yeah he's great with his retreat yeah yeah there could be some really fun directions you take this and it's like i hate to say it like there is probably a downside to it but like when in doubt like throw cameo make it mean something i think that that kind of works and you don't want to make it too crazy but i mean let's be honest like you just saw i work in deadpool so fucking well i was gonna say you you could do it in a non-cheap way and it does work for deadpool uh more easily because it's a comedy and it's like the it you know people compare it to no way home a lot and i think it's actually a fair comparison because both movies are like spectacle movies and people are using it to shit on no way home
Starting point is 00:37:16 which you know i hate i love no way people that have turned on it but it is like it feels a little more natural to do the big cameo moments in a lighthearted, goofy comedy than it does in a very serious grounded movie where like aunt may's dying and shit like that. Still don't shit on no way home though. The way the internet flipped on that one, I'm almost waiting for them to flip flop on Deadpool and Wolverine the same way.
Starting point is 00:37:39 People are going to be like, it's a cameo fest. It was just, you know, it was fun in the theater, but you can't watch it at home. It's not rewatchable. And we're like, just wait, they'll turn. It's going to be like, it's a cameo fest. It was fun in the theater, but you can't watch it at home. It's not rewatchable. Just wait.
Starting point is 00:37:47 It's going to happen. It happens with everything in life. I didn't realize until I started going on the internet more, I didn't realize Forrest Gump was actually a bad movie. I didn't realize. It's like the Beatles are terrible. They're a terrible band. It's like, wait, is this what you guys do here?
Starting point is 00:38:04 Has that always been like this? Again, they're going to we've you know we've made our points about deadpool and what it is and what it's not but it's like but i do think those cameos like you said especially hit when in the movie super meta and self-aware and yes doing so it makes it easier but still like at the same point marvel if you know you have like a little bit of a dog on your hands there are ways to fix it the movie has not come out it's not finished you can still edit it now we get into the fantastic four first steps i like that title for it i like that we're not just for the third time in a row calling it fantastic four like all right first steps that fits uh it's set in a retro future 60s they described it as like straight out of the Jetsons. They described the Fantastic Cars that which they brought out the Fantastic
Starting point is 00:38:47 Car like floated onto stage. It's a cool effect they did for Comic-Con. Everyone did the oohs and ahhs when they saw it. And they showed some pre shoot footage. So I don't think any of this stuff was actually meant to be in the movie or anything like that. But it's like in a four three aspect ratio. It looks old school.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Pedro Pascal's like teaching a class. It's like old school accent he has and everything. And it just leaked. So I don't know if you're able to find it on Twitter. You probably are on social media. I think it's worth watching. It made me smile. It's just very like lighthearted and goofy. There is a quick shot of Galactus's eyes. I thought we were going to get an actor announcement for Galactus here, but we didn't. So that's still out there. Michael Giacchino will be doing the score, who does the score for so many of Marvel's best projects. The Batman he did.
Starting point is 00:39:35 He also directed Werewolf by Night. And Pedro Pascal, just a fun note about this. Pedro Pascal has known the director, Matt Shackman, for 25 years. And he said they were almost roommates in 1999 but shackman came in saw the place and was like yeah i'm not moving into this shit um and they confirmed fantastic four will be in both adventures five and six everything i've seen about this pretty much excites me i think this is very very uh i think a small target to hit fantastic four obviously but huge upside if you
Starting point is 00:40:06 do hit it the only worry i have it's supposed to come out in like less than a year and that's not a lot of time to do cg yep seems very quick i'm a little nervous about that for sure uh but this one it's like i'm really just gonna hope it's fucking good i i'm not even looking for great i'll take good to very good is what I'm hoping for. And I, we just need to hit that mark. It's such an important thing. I heard it's not gonna be another origin story,
Starting point is 00:40:30 so we're not going to have to go through all that stuff. They were like, don't worry. You're joining on the fantastic four. You fucking get it. They're like, you know what their powers are at this point. And this is like,
Starting point is 00:40:41 I'm sure Jose could speak even more on it, but like I grew up reading a little bit of Fantastic Four, not a ton. Like they are so goddamn instrumental to the Marvel universe, the Marvel comics universe. And the fact that they made it this far without the first family, as they call them, that like, it's kind of amazing. So once they're here, they, I think it's going to, you know, rising tide lift all ships.
Starting point is 00:41:03 I think it's going to be great for everybody. And I do think the villains that come in through them, and then the way you can tie move franchises and movies together, it goes together so fucking well. So I just swear to God though, just do not, I'm going to just give them the green light, just secret invasion never happened.
Starting point is 00:41:22 If you didn't want it to happen, don't feel like you have to throw Khaleesi with the drag song. No need to see that. I will say, but I will say this. I would love some Olivia Coleman. I would also take Olivia Coleman in Thunderbolts either or. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:34 That'd be a good spot for her. Right. Yeah. That'd be great. And like, there's European characters, you know, that like it makes sense for them to cross paths with her.
Starting point is 00:41:42 I think I would, I think that should be one of their great call. If they need to improve that movie. I think I would, I, I think that should be, that's a great call. Great. To improve that movie. I think you just, that's a little, throw a little pinch of Olivia Colman.
Starting point is 00:41:51 It's like, I don't know what nutmeg is, but it's fucking good. Whenever you put it in something, that's Olivia Colman. Yeah, that's, that's a great call.
Starting point is 00:41:58 I love that. And now where we are 42 minutes into this podcast and Clem has been dressed as Dr. Doom the entire time, not being able to see anything. So let's get into the big announcement. We said we're texting each other during the panel. All right. We got news about this.
Starting point is 00:42:13 We got news about that. Nothing earth shattering, nothing that's like we need an emergency podcast for. And they're like, and you said to me, you go, usually they have a and one more thing. And this was there. And one more thing. And this was there. And one more thing. They confirmed the report that we already pretty much knew was going to be a thing. The Russo brothers will be directing Avengers five and six, six being Secret Wars, five now being retitled to Doomsday. And the entire Hall H turns green.
Starting point is 00:42:43 People lose their fucking minds. Oh, my God, it's Doomsday. Everyone forget hall h turns green people lose their fucking minds oh my god it's doomsday everyone forgets about kang like that and they say stephen mcfeely will write both so it's not marcus and mcfeely they wrote everything together part of me is like what the fuck marcus why aren't you coming back marcus what are you doing that's more important than this marcus but i'll let him right off into the sunset. He gave me a lot of great stuff. It seems that Alan Silvestri will compose the movie. He composed Endgame as well.
Starting point is 00:43:13 And they bring out Doom on stage. They say there's only one guy that can play Victor Von Doom. Interesting that they say Victor Von Doom specifically there. He takes the mask off. And in that same pose he has at the end of the first iron man it's robert downey jr gasps pops it's like comparable to a stone cold steve austin ah you know everyone goes nuts he posted the same uh their new mask same task um avengers 5 will come out may 2026 secret wars will come out may 2027 and Secret Wars will come out May 2027. And the early report about Robert Downey Jr., he basically demanded the Russos come back.
Starting point is 00:43:53 He's like, I'm not coming back unless the Russos are doing it. He's getting significantly more than $80 million because they're saying the Russos are getting $80 million. Robert Downey Jr. is getting significantly more than that. Personal security on set, a trailer encampment, private jet travel. are getting 80 million robert downey jr is getting significantly more than that uh personal security on set a trailer encampment private jet travel all of that came out almost as if they were saying like downey jr's got all these demands that all seemed like obvious to me if you're bringing like tony stark back to the mcu like he gets security a private jet and a big trailer. Yeah, I would hope so. And they said he's already made 500 to 600 million as Tony Stark.
Starting point is 00:44:29 And now he'll be restarting his career as Victor Von Doom. A lot of people are upset about this. They're saying, why would you do that? You're going back to the well. It's a desperate act. It's bringing back Palpatine and Rise of Skywalker.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Surprise, surprise. I'm optimistic about it. I think this team, McFeely, the Russo brothers, Robert Downey Jr. know what they're doing in the MCU. I have more faith in them with the MCU than I have in anyone else. I think they have the best proven track record yet. And I think there's a lot of awesome opportunities with Robert Downey Jr. as Victor Von Doom, which that's another confusing thing. Why isn't he a Tony Stark variant who became Dr. Doom? Why is his name Victor Von
Starting point is 00:45:16 Doom? I mean, we know there can be people that look different and be different variants and stuff like that. So I assume we'll get all of that addressed possibly even in the fantastic four before these movies. But I think there's a lot of cool opportunities, Tom Holland having to fight, you know, someone that looks like Tony Stark, his idol, the fact that this is the guy that saved the universe. And now there's a variant of him that wants to destroy it. The fact that it robert downey jr he's a great actor he could pull off anything you watched him in oppenheimer that's absolutely worthy of the oscar that he got for it and the fact that it's a post oscar robert downey jr too he's like he's got to be coming back for
Starting point is 00:45:57 something good i don't think it's just the money he's already made 500 to 600 mil clem how do you feel about this i'm with you and i think i'm with i think everybody i think everyone was like holy shit what the fuck uh did they really have to do that and hey listen first of all robert county jr the only thing better than being the face of a super duper successful tentpole franchise that makes money on money is having that franchise or having that, you know, cinematic universe basically collapsed as soon as you leave.
Starting point is 00:46:33 And then there, but they still have deep pockets and they're like, all right, we're just going to give you whatever you need. Cause we have to get this ship back, you know, on, on track here.
Starting point is 00:46:42 So shout out to him. Shout out the Russo brothers. Shout out. So best reset. What was the name of the guy who wrote it? McFeely out to him. Shout out the Russo brothers. Shout out Sylvester. Shout out, what was the name of the guy who wrote it? McFeely. McFeely. Shout out McFeely.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Like everyone should cash in. We've said this with, I mean, all the, you know, the hits in terms of the MCU and then all the flops as well. People that clearly can do it. People that clearly care and people that are talented. I want those people handling all the movies if possible let alone the really big important ones i'm sure on kevin feige's whiteboard there was a lot of options of how they were going to pivot from kang and the kang dynasty
Starting point is 00:47:18 or whatever to you know doomsday and i'm sure you know they were i'm sure robert downey jr wasn't the only option they had i'm sure you know they were i'm sure robert downey jr wasn't the only option they had i'm sure they may map that other potential actors other potential storylines they could get to i do think secret wars was going to be kind of the end game of it all for lack of a better term completely said that by mistake and you know they just they took it i i think i do think there is like a good fucking ceiling here the The floor is low, but the ceiling is high. And again, these guys have done it before. And I mean, like Robert Downey Jr., sure, he has a ton of money.
Starting point is 00:47:53 And he, like you said, has his Oscars. He really has nothing else to really prove in some sense. I'm sure he doesn't want to fucking destroy his legacy with this too. Same with the Russo brothers. These people care. Just like we care about this stuff so do they so because of that i'm i'm not gonna go in like upset i think they could do some cool stuff with it and i i also do think i i want to know your theory on this i don't think he's gonna be the long-term doom and i do think it could get kind
Starting point is 00:48:19 of funky when like you then have another like if we had two we kind of did have two thanoses right we didn't have brolin to the end yeah but like i do think that we could have this doom and then it ends with another doom because i've seen a lot of people say basically what they think is going to happen is i think this happened in the books is secret wars basically reset everything to just become one universe and we need that we need to have one universe with the fantastic four with all 616 throw deadpool in there get the x-men for the mutant saga that's coming up and if that kind of gets it all together and then we end up having a doom because we need to have a doom doom needs to be around you can't just you know we can't just have him get snapped away we need to have him around we need to have some of these big bads come around and always be a threat and you know potentially team up turn good all that stuff that comes with the comics i think we can get there and i don't think this
Starting point is 00:49:09 robert downey jr thing is gonna torpedo it can it torpedo it yes i remember yeah what was that there was always the goldberg wcw to titanic and goldberg and all i remember people saying that so it's like there is a chance that this big name ends up kind of fucking them over but i i really think it ended up well. I do not know which way it's going to go. Trust me, guys. I've reviewed all the shitty movies you guys were nice enough to listen to. I do not have like 100% – the trust the foggy sign light is not on in here right now.
Starting point is 00:49:37 You guys can see that. It could be on by the end of this saga though. That's all I can ask for. Oh, you got the little thumbs up on your screen. Nice. Oh, that's a good sign. Good juju thumbs up on your screen that is a good sign and and for the people that are very anti this and i've seen a lot of people just anti-variance in general and they're done with the multiverse i understand it hasn't all been good with the multiverse and i'm also ready for them to wrap this up and us to get into the mutant saga and kind of have one of every hero again.
Starting point is 00:50:06 But we can't just sweep that under the rug right now and say variants weren't a thing. The multiverse wasn't a thing. They're kind of doing that with Kang already. I assume the movie is going to open with like Robert Downey Jr. killing a bunch of Kangs or something. But you can't just sweep it under the rug. You have to give us a finale of some sorts. What's the biggest variant you could bring back for that finale?
Starting point is 00:50:28 It's Robert Downey Jr. as a Tony Stark variant, for sure. Now you combine him with Doom, who's one of the biggest villains. And I know some people are upset about that too. Hosea is actually like a little upset that they're not doing Victor Von Doom. He's like, Victor Von Doom is such a good character. Why would you take away from that by making him like Tony Stark, Victor Von Doom. He's like, Victor Von Doom is such a good character. Why would you take away from that by making him like Tony Stark, Victor Von Doom? And like you,
Starting point is 00:50:48 I believe we will one day get a Victor Von Doom in Marvel six, one six. I don't think Robert Downey jr. Is him. I also noticed they made a big point to be like the fantastic four will appear in both Avengers five and six. They did not say the same thing about Robert Downey jr's, uh,
Starting point is 00:51:06 Dr. Doom. So I'm like, Oh really? Yeah. They said he's just back and they're like, he'll be in doomsday. So are they going to beat him in doomsday?
Starting point is 00:51:14 And the real doom is going to be in secret wars or like, everything is still on the table. I almost feel like we're back in the accolade where everyone's yelling about key out of moon D lied to the Jedi. And it's like, let's just let the series play out and then judge it. I'm not even saying let's wait for the movie to come out and then judge it. Let's wait for us to figure out a little bit about the plot. Let's wait for us to see a trailer. Let's wait to hear from Robert
Starting point is 00:51:37 Downey jr. A little more. I think with the projects that this specific team has given us we owe them that we owe them just let's see how they do and again fully acknowledging in uh may 2026 i may be like fucking a i was an idiot yep i hate i am notorious for saying with infinity where i was like i just don't understand how they're gonna pull this off i was like i thought it was gonna every time we had like a huge ensemble cast you have all these different parts they just never fit together well and it was credit to the actors and also the writing and just everything about it obviously i have like after that with the egg on my face it's like all right you guys cook and i'll tell you what i think of it and that's the one thing about
Starting point is 00:52:22 the base we're gonna be honest you know we've always said that we're going to say one way or the other we'll try to see the the good side and stuff but we'll also see the bad side and uh it's like robert downey jr coming back as victor von doom uh i thought you were saying that people were upset that doom is coming because i think that was the only true pivot you could have from kang which let's just let's make this point on the podcast, Robert Downey Jr. Coming in $80 million, private jet and cam and yada,
Starting point is 00:52:49 yada, yada. How much of a bag fumble did Jonathan majors do? Ball fumble, whatever you want to call it, completely fucked himself. Fuck everyone. Kind of in the cinematic.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Fucked our boy, Michael Waldron. Asshole. Fuck Michael Waldron. Our boy. He's a Braves fan, but like, he's a Braves fan. He's a Braves fan, so don't feel too bad for him.
Starting point is 00:53:12 I haven't talked to him, but yeah, he was the original writer of the Kang Dynasty, and we heard McFeely. And there's part of me, of course, that's like, I love all of McFeely's work, so I'm excited about that. But I was excited for our guy. And I hope that he's still got Marvel projects or Star Wars projects or something on the horizon right now. I'm sure he's always working on stuff. But yeah, I hope that he's still got Marvel projects or Star Wars projects or something on the horizon right now. I'm sure he's always working on stuff. But, yeah, I hope that he's still doing stuff with the MCU. That boy's grinding in a basement somewhere right now, you know, or probably like a fucking Malibu beach house looking overlooking the Pacific Ocean. Come on.
Starting point is 00:53:39 He's doing it the right way for sure. But and then also kind of touching on I do think like I'm hoping by the end of Secret Wars or some point during that time, we get, like, a Kang back. Kang and Nathaniel Richards and all that kind of stuff, that is very much in the Doom Fantastic Four universe. So we can still get, like, a real Kang and one that could become, like, one of the, you know, tentpoles for the MCU going forward from the villain side.. I'm excited of how it could all go down. If you can't have faith in the Russo brothers doing this right, then I guess you should watch Endgame and Infinity War again and then come back. If it doesn't work,
Starting point is 00:54:15 watch it again. If it doesn't work, watch it again. At some point, you'll be like, it's better than... There's a universe, a multiverse right now where Bob Iger doesn't come back to Disney. It doesn't say we've got to fix this shit. We don't have, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:28 Ryan Reynolds getting dead full three, that universe. That's like the, the one that's probably like dying right now. That is their alpha being or whatever it was. We'll probably get some more Marvel news on August 9th at D 23. As I mentioned, I know Charlie Cox,
Starting point is 00:54:44 the actor that plays daredevil already mentioned he's going to be there daredevil is another one where we thought maybe we'll get a teaser or a trailer or something i assume we'll get that there um and then the only thing dc was dc unveiled their new like dc studios logo it's the old dc logo this with the james gunn just knows what he's doing hitting the nostalgia bones. But we got a Penguin panel. The Penguin moved from just a Mac show. Now it's going to be HBO's Sunday night show that already puts it up a few notches. And Matt Reeves did a panel with Colin Farrell and the creative team behind it. Matt Reeves said he's only seen Colin Farrell without the Penguin makeup like two or three times.
Starting point is 00:55:21 So it's very strange for him to see him normal. And they said the show sprung out of the original idea for the batman 2 he was going to open the batman 2 with oswald rising to power eventually wanted to like dive more into that than a movie would have time for so he pivoted started writing the show colin farrell said the first day that he put on the makeup for the makeup test to see if it was what they wanted took seven hours and he spent two months on dialect work creating that accent and he said the seven hour day was one of the best days of his life he absolutely loves it he loves playing this character um it premieres september 19th and they confirmed that colin farrell will return as
Starting point is 00:56:03 the penguin in the Batman two as well. So they're basically like, don't worry. We're not killing them off in this show. He'll be back. But everything we've seen, we got a new trailer as well. Looks awesome.
Starting point is 00:56:13 We, I feel like a broken record saying it's very Sopranos esque. We heard from our boy, Justin Kroll. It's also a little departed esque. He's like the way they lean into the mob stuff, little departed esque. So I'm really,
Starting point is 00:56:25 really looking forward to this. And there there's also rave reviews for that new Batman cartoon that drops on Amazon August 1st I know it sounds crazy But the fact that they're making that The 9pm HBO show I mean I don't know if anybody even has HBO On their cable anymore of all just
Starting point is 00:56:41 App stuff and the fact that it's just Unlocked on your app at 9 o'clock On the Max app of all things app stuff and the fact that it's just unlocked on your app at nine o'clock on the max app of all things it's not even hbo go anymore anything like that it just makes me feel better it doesn't make any sense but it is one of those things that that is the cleanup hitter that center field for the yankees that's you know the point guard for the lakers it is the prestige spot in television it has been house of the Dragon is there now. We grew up. Sopranos was there, right? And just something different about when that hits,
Starting point is 00:57:12 you're like, this shit is higher quality. I know they filmed it before it was to that spot. However, they're putting it in that spot after the filming, which makes you feel even better. And hey, there's a good chance it just completely falls on its face, regardless of that. But in my mind, I feel better about that now than i did before they said it was at 9 p.m on hbo again i've what like it's pretty much just people's parents still have like regular cable right now i guess yeah i have youtube tv and i don't even think about getting it on there
Starting point is 00:57:38 i just get the max app and i can just go through everything on there so that makes you feel very good about it all i have have to rewatch the Batman. Uh, you know, it's been a while. Um, was that how long was the runtime on that bad boy? Was that three hours?
Starting point is 00:57:50 A legit three hours. Yeah. It's, it's a legit three. I've seen the Batman so many times. I remember I saw it. I think we may be at the screener then brought my girlfriend to see it. I saw it a couple of times in theaters,
Starting point is 00:58:02 definitely at least three. And then, uh, we went back to Columbus and my girlfriends are now my fiance. girlfriend to see it i saw it a couple times in theaters definitely at least three and then uh we went back to columbus and my girlfriends are now my fiance i gotta get used to that her friends were like hey we're having a party where everyone's coming over to watch the batman it finally hit max and my girlfriend had just seen it in theaters multiple times she was like oh great and i was so excited i was like this could be an awesome party everyone's quiet for three hours watching batman i even put it on i had a flight from vegas pretty recently
Starting point is 00:58:31 for ufc 303 or whatever it was that's what you bought the room with no audio you're like i can marry her because her friends will watch the batman so this this could be this can work i i joked to her that she sent me before she moved to New Jersey. We were still long distance for a little bit. And the day that Mando, I think season two or three, I think probably season two. Yeah. The day it premiered, she sent me like catered fucking cupcakes, Baby Yoda, Beskar, Star Wars logo. And I was like, oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:03 I mean, the ring was basically i started looking then so that's all the news yeah a lot of exciting stuff on the on the horizon for not only the basement but uh for me personally big week for me yeah you could finally take that off growing up right before our true commitment to the talk about this how barstool is kind of like it's the internet's reality show and you know we saw it with dave big cat and kevin how they've grown and they have marriages kids yada yada bob fox is the baby of it all and once the baby's you know getting hitched then you all start feeling old so congrats to you guys people have some people tweeted me that they were like i feel like i watched you grow up and i was like you saw me straight out of high school, and now I'm 26 and engaged.
Starting point is 00:59:48 I mean, it seems like just yesterday you were telling Dave how there was no cum coming out of your dick. I would have said that too. That's your origin story, Bob. For better or worse, that's your origin story. For better or worse, it is. That's my issue zero. All right. Thank you to everyone for uh
Starting point is 01:00:06 listening to the basement we have a hashtag this week some kind of fun hashtag let's see hashtag doomsday i was gonna say bobby rings because now we have you and then not to mention your fucking pommel horse doppelganger shout out i know that guy, everyone's tweeting me that too. A bronze medal and an engagement one day. That guy really does look like me. He tweeted me like four years ago when he was in the Olympics four years ago. The same thing happened. Everyone was like, oh my God, that guy looks just like you. And I'm pretty sure the guy was like, hey, I've been getting that a lot.
Starting point is 01:00:39 That's why I shout out to that guy. That's incredible. I'm going, you know what? You can think of one. I'm going Bobby Rings. It's only you'll get engaged once. He is the Olympic rings. It works.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Bobby Rings. Shout out to both you guys. Absolutely crushing life. We have a lot of fun shit coming down the pipeline here. So this is, like you said, exciting times for sure. All right. We'll talk to you next week.

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