My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 38 - THE MANDALORIAN CHAPTER 5 DISCUSSION & MAILBAG WITH CLEM!

Episode Date: December 9, 2019

***SKIP TO 50:26 TO AVOID SPOILERS FOR 'THE MANDALORIAN'***Robbie and Clem recap Chapter 5 of The Mandalorian, discuss the trailers for both ‘Black Widow' and ‘Wonder Woman 1984', and break down each of their top five favorite lightsaber fights in the Basement this week! Will they call DYFS on Mando for his poor parenting skills? Listen to find out!!!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. It's maybe my favorite thing about The Mandalorian coming back, is it just has given us a reason just to bullshit every Sunday. Yeah, definitely, and it's a great pregame into Watchmen for the both of us, because we're both hooked on this show. Tonight we have episode 8, I'm sure if you're, you know, listening to this, that will have already aired, and I'm sure our minds will be blown. We might not even be alive. Our minds might explode tonight. I said I tweeted it. I'm just terrified of what's going to happen at all times on the screen.

I feel like I'm on a roller coaster going down, and it just never stops. The doomsday clock for my brain is at 11.15. I am terrified of 9 p.m. Eastern time when that little HBO thing goes on. I am not ready. It's about to go down. Yeah. It was a wild week. I had a wild week and a very chill weekend.

I went back home and we made like Christmas cookies with my niece and nephew. My nephew was making me baby Yoda cookies. It was adorable. But the week was incredibly hectic because we had a pop punk show in Missouri, in Columbia, Missouri, at the University of Missouri. It was cool. That was on a Wednesday night. We flew out there Wednesday afternoon private, which is always – it was my second time or third time on a private plane because, of course, Dave was going. And that's always a wild experience.

You feel especially – I said the coolest time to answer yes to are you in a band is when the pilot of your private jet is asking. That's the coolest time to answer yes because that happened. We went. We played this show. It was fun. And then we got humbled because the day after the show, it took us about 12 hours door to door to get from Columbia, Missouri to New York City. We woke up at 930 or we left the hotel at 9.30 a.m. We drive to the airport.

Our plane keeps getting delayed, delayed, delayed. Eventually, they just tell us, oh, flight's canceled at about 11.30. We drive two hours. Shout out to Spider because Spider was a lifesaver. Rents us a car immediately. We drive two hours to St. Louis. We get on like a 4 p.m. flight to New York. Once we get to New York, I waited 62 minutes for an Uber at LaGuardia. Frankie and PFT waited 90

minutes and eventually just gave up. They got on the first bus they saw, got off at the first stop and Ubered from there. Roan waited like 45 for his. We were all in the frigid cold. I was sitting on the ground with my phone plugged into my laptop like it was Fyre Fest. There were tents set up everywhere. People are fighting. People are screaming at each other. It was fucking insane. But I will say it was worth it for the show. Everyone that came out to the show in Mizzou, pretty crazy. It was a pretty crazy crowd, pretty fun crowd singing along to all our songs. So let me just say, Bob, I love you. You know, we're boys. We're in your mom's basement i love you you know we're boys we're in your

mom's basement um i'm like you said we were together all the time i'm basically the co-host at this point i cannot tell you how happy it made me to hear how bad your day was there because you said you don't even you don't even know how many times you've flown private and i heard that it was like a fucking dagger to my soul i remember you were just just the quiet college kid. You were Riggs' intern. You didn't say a word to anyone. And I'm like, oh, that kid, he's a nice kid. He's so quiet. And now you're a fucking rock star that takes private planes.

And I'm like, this guy is too goddamn big for his britches. And now your britches have now gotten bigger than you by getting you humbled, which is funny because New York City will humble you real quickly. I remember my wife and I went on like a vacation to like charlotte it was it was like we went to a friend's wedding but just a delightful trip and we were we were so happy we got to la guardia and it was like there was like seven different like detours to get home because we couldn't get a cab and i was like holy shit i fucking hate this place i can that was the day i still remember that was the day i knew i was leaving new york city it was that day we're moving the fuck out of this goddamn hellhole and i can't even imagine like people screaming at each other we had to take a bus instead of the subway it was this whole thing it was craziness so shout

out bob for for a hell of a gig you sent me a video people they were going crazy yeah yeah it was cool and it was the day before finals at mizzou so there were a ton of people that couldn't make it that were tweeting us and telling us like man man, I wish you came back. But we kept saying like the people that showed up, they fucking wanted to be there. And I don't know if they just said fuck finals tomorrow or what, but they were raging by the end of it. Like it's on stool scenes this week. We went out the back door and there were just like dozens of people waiting for us. It's the craziest feeling in the world. I swear being on stage and playing music with Pop Punk, if you're not aware of what Pop Punk is, I guess we don't really talk about it a ton on the show,

it is our band at Barstool, our house band, I guess. I play bass, Roan sings, PFT plays guitar, and Frankie Borelli is on the drums. And we mostly just play Pop Punk covers, but we have our own songs that are kind of parody songs, and we just play these shows that thousands of people come to. And it feels like I'm playing guitar hero on virtual reality or something. Uh, there's so like, uh, I think, I don't know, Frankie said it, someone said it best.

They were like the things barstool like allows people to do, like, you can either be a rock star, you can be a prize fighter. You need to experience all this shit, just like working for this company or you don't have to work for the company half the time. You can just go to a rough and rowdy and fight in it. It's incredible, all this stuff. And I – you shouted him out, but I just want to say we have a lot of people in this company that are like awesome at what they do. Spider is one of the best people at his job. He is so good. Our guy – we both love the office manager, Brett.

He always like just hit a snag. I think part of it was cursed. He might have been cursed. I think he was, yeah. Like I would always – like like i'd fly down like brett anything but the middle seat if you're flying we just don't put and then i always end up in them i'm like brett how am i ending because when the big guy sits bitch everyone sits bitch and just little things like that again shout out brett spider always has a foot he's he's a mover and he's a shaker he's a mover and shaker and that's why the spider and he always is on the. So shout out to him for getting you guys back I guess as quick as he was going to be able to.

He might have like – he would have carried you guys back from the airport. Oh, he would have. Yeah, no, he would have. He would have. He's the best. And we pitch a lot of things to movie studios on this podcast. We always say Disney maybe give us a Star Wars show, give us a this, give us a that. Sony, if you want to give us a spider verse comic book we'll write the office

manager spider spider verse comic book where he gets bit by a radioactive spider like maybe he's the spider-man that i've always talked about whose mary jane isn't a woman it's just weed i mean spider i think it's stones 24 7 but he gets the job done did we just did we just like out spider as the new spider-man he He's like, shit, guys. He's in the middle of his beginning story, his origin story, and he's like, shit, you guys just blew up my spot. He hasn't even come off the costume yet. I love that. If we could get – he's that Spider-Man, like the one from the video game who's working for Dr. Octavius as a tech student.

He walks up to him. Yo, Doc Ock, what can I get you, my G? Do you want me to hand you a wrench or something? Dave Portnoy is kind of the Doc Ock of the smut content game, I guess you could say. Or maybe Dave Portnoy is his, like, Green Goblin. You know, maybe Dave is, like, moonlighting as the Green Goblin. I don't know. There's a lot of good ideas here.

Spider tried to be his number one guy. He didn't get it. Like, that could be the rift between them. Like, a spider origin spider-man story here somewhere i think we could write it i think we could do it oh and by the way my niece my fucking adorable niece she's one year old and she just finally is naming her first superhero and it's spider-man spider-man is her absolute favorite because uh luke obviously has a bunch of toys, you know, Avengers toys, all different. Avengers backpacks, Avengers cups, Avengers this,

that. And Spider-Man's the only one she'll point to. She'll point to him and she goes, spy? Spy? So she's got a favorite superhero and it's Spider-Man. It's a great one. She did it, man. Sienna's favorite was Spider-Man 2 and she had never seen anything Spider-Man in her life. This was before she watched any Marvel. She goes, Dad, I want that Spider-Man 2 and she had never seen anything Spider-Man in her life this

was before she watched any Marvel she was dad I want that Spider-Man balloon like and I was like how do you know Spider-Man she's like I don't know I know Spider-Man Spider-Man just has like it's like Mickey Mouse it's Elmo it's just something about the look is ingrained in their brain that maybe it's that red all of them have that primary color that you know bold red maybe it's that um that's like fast food places. They say they have red on the signs because it makes you hungry or whatever. So maybe the – yeah, I blew your mind there, didn't I, Bobby? I didn't know that, but they all do.

All of them. I think it's like red and yellow are the two, like, colors that kind of like you associate with that. McDonald's, Burger King, Wendy's, Chick-fil-A, Popeye's. Popeye's even has its orange, but it has that red backing behind the letters. Holy fuck. By the way, another thing, another side tangent. They just put a new Chick-fil-A near my mom's condo, and there is 24-hour police outside because the lines are so insane. Not even for Popeyes.

It's Chick-fil-A. It's the other one, the one that didn't just debut at Chicken Sandwich. And like the nicest – like if you go into a Chick-fil-A and you're angry and you leave still angry, you have a very big anger problem. It's the nicest place in the world no matter what. Like even when they are in New York, they're still so nice there. I'm like where did you – like who did you ship into New York to work for? These are not New Yorkers. Yeah. All right.

So that's about it on the week that we had. You can go to moles.com right now, M-U-L-S.com. Pup Punk is playing another show on Long Island on January 4th. If you want to come to that, we've played one show at Mulcahy's before. They just blew out like half the bar and expanded it. So now it's even bigger than it was then. That's going to be a really fun time. Clem, you were at that one. Would you recommend people come? That was my one show. That was like, I think the first time wife and I got away from the kids and just basically just had a night to ourselves. Since DMX? Tell me since DMX. Well, that was supposed to, we were supposed to, we were supposed to like stay in Long Island that night and like get a hotel and everything.

We didn't book it because it was like so last minute. And then the hotel was like a thousand dollars and we're like well i guess we're going home and we told her parents we're watching the kids we go listen we're home but we're downstairs we're off the clock until 9 a.m so don't even wake us up so we just hid from them i couldn't recommend pop punk more it's like you said like it's obviously it's people you know on stage so it's like and the funny thing about pop punk is it hits all the different genres. You have the PMT sports, PFT guys. You have obviously Rone is his own like genius. We got the nerd, the my mom's basement stuff.

And we got Frankie Burrell, who is a team port and like it hits every corner of bars and the golf. Like he he shows up to these events in a quarter zip and a fucking Tiger Woods hat. And then he takes it off. He puts the bandana on and he rips up the drums yeah it's unbelievable and then you know like there's a ton and the fact that it's in new york you get all the barstool people which i i you could tell me more than i would but i feel like it's one of the events it's the most attended where we're all able to go instead of like oh definitely not ever just go to missouri and hang out there but it was like everyone was there and you know and then a lot of the studios are coming up we're all drinking having fun dancing so it's it's like a it's a lot of the stoolies are coming up. We're all drinking, having fun, dancing.

So it's like a – it's a huge not only obviously pop punk event. You guys play music that everyone can just dance to and have fun to. But it's like a barstool event. You want to say hi to some of your favorite bloggers, personalities, whatever. Awesome time. Yeah, it is like a full event. Last time we had Buddha Ben. We had Marty Mush.

We had Za up on stage beforehand, Marty Mush. Oh, my god. And I think Tom – was Tommy Smokes on stage too? Or were we maybe talking about Tommy Smokes going on stage and singing Frank Sinatra? We sing stupid songs. We sing sing-along songs. I mean, it's fun. Like Clem said, if you're interested, M-U-L-S, Moles.com.

Moles, he's on Long Island. That's January 4th, right after the holidays. It'll be a good time. Now, before we get into The Mandalorian, we got two trailer drops this week. Two really great trailers, I thought. The first of which was Black Widow. In this movie, we're finally going to find out what happened in Budapest. I think it looks pretty friggin' dope. It comes out in May. David Harbour's in it. Scarlett Johansson obviously starring and producing it. She'll be the first star producer of

any mcu movie i believe but uh what did you think of this trailer clem i dug it i dug it i i went in with i want to i wouldn't say low expectations i was just kind of like all right show me what you got here and um i came out pretty impressed like i said in like one of our old pods i wasn't like black widow was kind of whatever for me. But the scene in Endgame is, you know, her last scene. I was like, oh, shit. Like I kind of like Black Widow again. And it kind of retroactively made me like her more.

A thousand percent agreed. It's it felt like like a female Jason Bourne movie, which I thought was cool. You know, I kind of just got that vibe from it. And then I just I'm going to call him hooper hopper whatever like i i that's just i red guardian i'm just so excited to see i just feel like it's gonna be at like like just enough funny good moments yes that i think it's gonna i'm a fan i'm in to see it uh the whole like she has an accent her sister doesn't i i think with with russia or whatever there's a lot of layers that can well also she also she's a spy, right?

So maybe she worked to get rid of her accent. True, yeah. I don't know. That would be smart. My dumb ass is like, well, how did she lose her accent? Well, yeah, like that's kind of important for the job. But even in the clips we saw, like when she goes back home and she seems like she's sitting with her family and she's not speaking with an accent. So you have a point there.

Do you think like – I feel like my family would hate me if I just lost my accent. They'd be like, oh, you're too good for your – I mean if I just started coming back and just – if I started acting Russian to my family, like what the fuck is your – hey, Justin, what is your accent? Such a bad Russian accent. I don't know how my family would feel because I feel like I have a different accent than – I know I have a different accent than my mom and my sister already. Like they talk. They're like, Rob, get over here, Rob. Oh, you're doing your laundry? Like they sound like the Real Housewives.

They're Jersey Foxes? I didn't realize you were Jersey. Oh, hardcore. So like I always give them shit for that and I always make fun of them. My sister is all – she gets road rage. Hey, look at this asshole. Come on. Look at this asshole over here.

It's hysterical. But she's going to gonna she listened to this podcast too she's gonna hate that i said that she i just outed her now this is my one this is this is uh it's a little bit of an ask but this is my one ask i'm asking from this movie i might ask him much just give me a subtle easter egg of either colossus or omega red i need some x-men getting sprinkled into the fucking mcu sooner i don't hate that and kevin feige came out this week and said this movie is going to reveal something that drastically changes the course of the mcu that we've never known before really i didn't even consider that the x-men could be that thing but now that you say that i think the x-men could be that thing

we need a fucking x we need some t's too just like all we need is you know show us a fucking x i don't like give us the slightest little t's i don't care what it is i'm so like i'm i'm living on the watchman reddit so much these days and all these theories end up coming true even better than we could have imagined i need to go on there and like someone like points out like an x in like the most bizarre corner of the screen at like the 45 minute mark and it's like oh that means x-men yeah wolverine he's there there yeah um someone wrote in let me get their name here um skipper my son on twitter wrote in and said what are you guys most excited for in this movie and i'll say this right now after seeing the trailer the white black widow suit that thing was dope as hell so that's what I'm most excited to see that obviously we want

to find out what happened in Budapest I I want to see Red Guardian David Harbour already looks funny I love that he's still chubby he's still fat what else what else would I like to see the action scenes I want this to be what I wanted uh red sparrow to be did you see red sparrow no i did not see red sparrow it very much seems like it was like this without the rights it was the rose art version of black widow and oh my god now that i'm thinking about it red sparrow black widow what the fuck back i don't listen i don't want to go too like in on this i know for a fact red sparrow is ain movie, but what in the world? That's a bad look.

We're just going to leave it at that. We're going to leave it at that. We're going to leave it at that. We're going to leave it at that. We don't want the lights going off in the mom's basement one day. There's a locked door outside. You hear a door open in the distance and Peter Churnin yells down. I'm going the opposite.

The one thing I'm scared of is I like almost ever since obviously the two Infinity Saga movies and then even Far From Home, like I almost need to have like, all right, who's going to be the extra superhero in this one? And I know I think Tony Stark's rumored to be in it for at least for a little bit. I don't want that, man. It's too soon. Yeah. And I don't want that, man. It's too soon. Yeah, and I don't want him in it, and I almost just kind of want these to start going their own ways, but I also kind of want it where there's always someone in it.

I don't know which way I have to go. I kind of am like half one, half the other. I want – because every – it's very rare in comic books you don't run into another superhero, I feel, at some point. You know what I mean? It's like at some – I feel like at some point we're going to have either a Hulk sighting. Obviously Hawkeye would make sense. I don't, I don't know. I'm kind of like halfway one or the other, right?

What do you, would you want, do you want them to start going back to where it's like, it's just a Thor movie? Or do you want to always have, you know, Doctor Strange sprinkled in and everything kind of like weaves and ends up obviously at this end game final portrait? It's tough. Now that you're asking that question, I agree with you that I kind of like weaves and ends up obviously at this endgame final portrait. It's tough. Now that you're asking that question, I agree with you that I kind of go both ways.

Even if I don't want it and they do it, I usually leave the theater going, well, they did it well. Like they did that. Marvel never really disappoints as we've discussed. But I think I would almost rather not for Black Widow. Black Widow I think should be our own thing. For the other ones, no, I do like the buddy team-up movie. I'm thinking of Ragnarok. That's the first one that comes to mind for me.

But at the same time, I could cut to Black Panther. And he didn't really have one, and it was perfect. I think it's a case-by-case basis, and I think this one, I'm with you. I would rather not see that. I especially don't want to see Tony Stark. But at the same time, I say that if Tony Stark has some kind of scene where he embraces Natasha and he's like, we are family, we've always

been family or something, I'm going to be weeping. I'm going to be weeping and I'm going to call it the best scene of the year. I'm going to say you should get nominated for an Oscar. So I can't be a hypocrite and say I wouldn't want that. I don't know. Give me a good movie, Kevin Feige. You fucking know how to do it. Give us a good movie, Kevin. We also got the first trailer to Wonder Woman 1984, the sequel, although Patty Jenkins is saying it's not really a sequel.

She's saying it's the next incarnation of Wonder Woman. She said obviously they'll tie things in from the first movie, as we could already see from the trailer. Chris Pine is back, weirdly, because, spoiler alert, he dies in the first movie. But she said this will just be its own sort of standalone thing which i think fucking thank god that's what the dceu needs right now just focus on making good standalone movies good characters i thought this trailer was sick it mostly takes place in a mall it almost looked like whenever i see a mall in the 80s i think christmas probably because ofle All the Way or something.

But I thought it was dope. I think Gal Gadot is like the best part of the DCEU, and I'm excited to see what she has to offer in this one. What do you think? All right. Now I kind of go the – not opposite, but I actually – first of all, the first thing I thought of was Stranger Things because it was just literally a mall in the 80s is what we just went through. And then the whole – And the synthy score behind it as well. Exactly. And I just watched Hopper as a fucking Red Guardian like a minute before I was watching the Black Widow trailer.

I don't know. I thought it was going to be a little more 80s-ish. I thought the 80s were going to play more of a role in it. And I also – I didn't love the first Wonder Woman. I liked it good enough. I think we were talking about this offline. Like the No Man's Land scene, there's a couple scenes I like, but I just think

it was a little clunky. And I also, it almost is the opposite of Black Widow. I'm like, I trust Feige's going to make everything right. Where it's like, the fact Wonder Woman wasn't a complete bust by DC, like any DC movie. If it's not a bust, it's like a fact wonder woman wasn't a complete bust by dc like any any dc movie if it's not a bust it's like a victory in my mind so like them doing a sequel to a movie i'm like well that's a guaranteed bust right there so i i kind of going in with very low hopes i do i am

very interested to see kristin wig in there she's obviously a villain in this movie so she's playing cheetah and i think this is all interesting. This might sell you on the movie a little bit more because I was reading up on the Reddit and I don't know Wonder Woman comics a ton, but the people that do were saying that the villain of this movie, who's played by our guy Pedro Pascal of The Mandalorian,

he's clean-shaven though and he looks fucking weird clean-shaven, I think. Apparently he has some sort of power or some sort of power or some sort of device or some sort of way to grant wishes that come with a cost that's how people think chris pine is in this movie somehow he granted a wish where he brought chris pine back and for kristin wig cheetah i think the way her origin goes is she basically wanted to become wonder woman and he granted that wish, but the cost was

she became a fucking cheetah. There was, you know, some kind of mix-up there. I think that is super intriguing for a movie. It worries me a little bit because, as we were talking about offline, the only thing that I didn't really like about Wonder Woman was that CGI mess at the end. I'm tired of

every single movie having, you know, a big CGI monster for the main character to fight at the end. Yeah. But I did think this trailer was cool. I'm tired of every single movie having, you know, a big CGI monster for the main character to fight at the end. But I did think this trailer was cool. I loved that the whole thing was fucking bright. Like, okay, they're learning. They get it. We don't want dark and gritty. There was no rain in this trailer. You know, other than, I guess she was, shout out

to Metallica, riding the lightning at the end, which was insane with her lasso. That was incredible. We need shit like that. Everything with the lasso I thought was awesome, actually. Like, every time that lasso that was incredible we need shit like that everything with the lasso i thought was awesome actually like every time that lasso was out i was like that looks super cool did she change her outfit too she haven't created like a newer gold outfit her well yeah her standard outfit's definitely more colorful and then at the end she debuts the gold outfit we've seen in the poster, which sort of looked like Hawkgirl or something.

It was cool, but I'm interested to see if there's like – if that's the final version of that outfit. And we also got to say Pedro Pascal, Mandalorian, but the dude, that's Oberyn Martell. That's fucking Oberyn. That's my guy. Yeah, yeah. What was his line when he was gloating it up right before he's got his face squeezed in? He's like, you killed my children. You raped her.

You murdered her. I haven't thought about that line forever, but it was burned in my brain as well as the graphic moments afterwards. That was looking back definitely one of the highlights of binging Game of Thrones, just for the shock value. The fact that they show you the head squeeze as graphically as they do oh such a great scene it's a great it's a great show too bad it ended before the last season they decided just not to air it i know it's weird yeah i have to say do not fuck up a movie with olber martel as your lead villain because i didn't know he was the lead villain until you said that and now that I I am now very worried don't fuck it up DC that's kind of like my that's gonna be my line for every

DC movie we talk about just don't fuck it up until they get like three in a row right and I haven't seen Joker yet Joker might have been good I haven't seen have had time with the kids hopefully it's out by Christmas I can watch it at home yeah I've gone I've gone back and forth on Joker so many times it just there's so many things about it that I like. There are so many things about it that I hated. So I'm back and forth. I was compiling my top ten movies of the year list this week and obviously I won't put that out until after The Rise of Skywalker comes out because it would be stupid to do so. But I saw Knives Out last week or on Friday and I was blown away by it. Did you see it?

I saw it yesterday. I saw it Saturday. It was delightful. My wife had to take the kids to go see Santa Claus, so then I called my brother. I was like, hey, did you see Knives Out? I know you wanted to see it, and I'm hearing good things on Twitter. He's like, no.

And it was just fucking delightful. Daniel Craig, maybe the most fun performance of the year from that guy. I was texting Jeff D. Lowe about it, and I was like, I don't even know if I would call it like a, it is a great performance, but it's not like, you know, an Oscar-worthy whatever. It's just fun. He's doing this, like, Southern accent all the time.

He's, I think there is something afoot with this house and this murderer. And the whole cast was great. I think it was cool seeing him and the lead actress. I forget her name, but she's the new Bond girl. So it's like new bond girl so it's like they arm or whatever yeah yeah seeing their chemistry before seeing the detectives see i mean everyone in the movie i thought crushed i fucking loved it definitely top five of the year for me yeah that um that that cast is ridiculous first of all and i went in completely not knowing anything was about and i kind of just wanted to go in blind and i'm happy i did because i really had no idea what was going on.

My guy Chris Evans, by the way. Phenomenal. His eat shit scene? Eat shit, eat shit, eat shit. You really eat shit. It's fucking so good. So check out Knives Out if you guys are looking for a movie. I got a minute away from the kids, and I'm happy I did.

I actually said, in my personal headcanon that is the last jedi that is ryan because ryan johnson directed it that is the ryan johnson star wars movie and now the rise of skywalker is going to take the events of that movie and the force awakens and we're going to put it all together into one happy star wars trilogy amazing amazing i freaking love that i love you you praising a ryan johnson thing i know it's not Star Wars but it's in your head now it is it is I will say this Rian Johnson is is like he has more hits than misses for me because I know he did Ozymandias and he did Knives Out

and then he had Last Jedi granted one of the Looper have you seen Looper oh I did see Looper Looper I was I was like it's like a lukewarm I was I didn't hate it by any means and I would my guy Bruce I had to see my guy Bruce yes all right let's get into the Mandalorian but guy Bruce. I had to see my guy Bruce. Yes. All right. Let's get into the Mandalorian.

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Mandalorian because I did not care for this episode. And I'm really hoping you don't. I really hope you agree because if you don't and you say this is one of your favorites, Robbie, we're going to have a rough time with this episode. Clem, I want to give you a hug through the computer right now. Yes! Because I did not enjoy this episode very much. It is my least favorite of the season so far. I still thought it still had its, you know, certain little Easter eggs, certain little things here and there.

I said, oh, cool. Every moment that Baby Yoda was on the screen, I was enjoying myself. There were a few things here and there that I thought were cool. But overall, I thought this was a pretty stagnant episode. It didn't move the plot forward at all. And I know some people were saying that about Episode 4. And I was saying, maybe give it a chance.

You know, I still, that this doesn't change my opinion about Episode 4. I still really enjoyed that one. But there was just something about this. I mean, two characters in particular that ruined the episode for me. Including the bounty hunter that he meets in the... You know what? We'll get into the spoilers because I can't even say where he meets this bounty hunter. So if you would like to skip past spoilers, check out the timestamp in the description

below. All right. Talking the Mandalorian. Disney Plus, by the way, has answered our prayers. As of right now, as of this recording, they have not only added the continue watching button, but there is now a start from beginning button. So thank you, Bob Iger. If you're listening to this podcast, we know that you like the pizza reviews. So who knows?

Bob Iger might be listening to our weekly recaps. Oh, and by the way, I wanted to mention this guy as well. Nathan Hurst Art on Instagram. That's Nathan Hurst Art. Put together the coolest piece of listener art I've ever seen for this podcast. It's basically like another logo. It says my mom's basement. The O in mom is baby Yoda in his carriage. The B in basement is like a bass amp, my bass leaning up against it. There's a batarang in the side of it. The Y in my is the infinity gauntlet giving

like a peace sign. This thing is incredible. I posted it all over my social media. Like I want a shirt with this logo on it now. I think that's like the logo. It's just an unofficial logo. I know. Like I thought, yeah, let's do a thing where like I got my – I'm sitting. It looks like I'm in my mom's basement, whatever.

We might have to frigging change the logo. It's so cool. I don't know. We're going to frigging look into that. Nathan, thank you for that art because that was awesome. We're going to frigging look into that. Nathan, thank you for that art because that was awesome. We'll talk to you about it. We'll make sure you get a shirt

with that on it or something. He said he needs more Climberport too, so he even shouted me out. I was like, all right, Nathan, now we're cool. The logo was good enough, but you're going to pander to me. We're fucking,

we're boys now at this point. Yeah, and his Instagram is awesome too. He's like a really cool cartoonist. I fucking, I get so mad when I see really talented artists. My daughter can already draw better than me. She's five years old.

And I just see people like Nathan out there. It was almost like a schoolhouse rock kind of vibe to it, which I dug as well. Everything about it was awesome. So yeah, definitely. You retweeted it, right? Yes. Retweeted. I'll throw it on my Instagram too.

It's awesome. So this episode of Mandalorian begins with a dogfight, the first dogfight of its kind in this show. Pretty cool. Actually, the maneuver he pulls where he hits on the brakes, does the old top gun, shoots the guy out of the sky once he uses his line, and then he lands on the closest planet to him, which, Clem, I would assume you were already worried about this one

when you can tell immediately it's Tatooine. So it starts up, dogfight, sweet move. He says, that's my line, which was an awesome line by the way. That was awesome. Yeah, I forgot to mention that. That was the guy that he was in the dogfight with. I guess they have some kind of communication, some kind of signal. If you're in the area, you could hear the other people in the ships.

Oh, I didn't think of that. Yeah. Because the guy says, I can bring you in warm or I can bring you in cold, which I think is the first thing the Mandalorian says, even in the whole series, maybe. And he immediately, he was going to let the guy live, he said, but he hits the brakes

on the ship, shoots the guy out of space, and says, that's my line. It was awesome. Very Clint Eastwood type thing. Yeah, I was, so I was all in on it, and I thought it was fucking, I'm like, alright yeah I was so I was all in on it and I thought it was fucking I'm like all right we're moving some stuff in Mando and then basically like you said we now are at two episodes without any movement and it's at the point now where I'm like all right is this just gonna be like a one like it's not a an arching story or is there's a

little bit here and there but I see Mos Eisley and I'm like god damn it we're going back to where we're doing everything I've been asking. We're going to start rehashing all the old characters, all the old planets, all that kind of stuff. They go back, and I could tell immediately from the outer shot of space that we were going there because this I actually thought was super cool. They used the exact same shot that begins A New Hope of space and the same angle of where the planets were located and whatnot. He lands on the Mos Eisley spaceport, which I also thought was cool. I was like, all right, if we're doing Tatooine, I'd like to see him land in a similar docking bay to that that Han Solo was in.

And he sees pit droids down there from Episode 1, the old Anakin Skywalker, hit the nose, hit the nose! He sees pit droids. He hates those things. He fucking shoots at them right away. This guy hates droids as we know and he meets the most annoying mechanic i've ever seen in my entire life some lady with a perm straight out of the 80s he pays her to fix the ship because the dog fight or something and he doesn't have enough money so he has to take up another task which i was like all right now we're now we're kind of rehashing things we've done this feels like a video game task almost like a side

task that is the perfect way to put it and it's like the tutorial it's like i don't want i know So now we're kind of rehashing things we've done. This feels like a video game task almost, like a side task. That is the perfect way to put it. It's like the tutorial. It's like I don't want – I know the controllers already. I have to like read through the game here. And I will say she was like the perm lady was just annoying as shit. But she also did give off – even if it was like overdone. Like your car gets – you get into an accident.

You get towed to like the local tow shop. And you're're like oh this person is just gonna basically rob me blind yeah they have 35 reviews all of them are one star yelp and you're like oh i'm getting fucked here and that's exactly what i and it's also like it's mando he i'd be like yeah i'm a fucking mandalorian i'll kill your ass if you don't just basically get it done so So it was off to a bad start from the jump. I'm with you. I will say, though, as much as I didn't like going back to Tatooine, I did like seeing how Mos Eisley has changed. Yes.

Namely, the cantina is more empty probably because the Empire is gone. It's run by a droid. Yeah, it's run by a droid. It's progress. We have a progress in the Star Wars universe. It's very nice to see. I thought all that was cool. He leaves Baby Yo with that annoying mechanic lady, which, again,

at this point, we're calling Dyfus. Like, we will call the Dyfus of the galaxy on the Mandalorian, because what in the world? But, as you said, I actually have it in my notes. Mos Eisley, cool, cantina, well done. I was terrified when you could tell, like, alright, he's probably going into the fucking cantina, and he walks past

the Stormtrooper helmets on spikes, which we saw in the trailer. Great shot. Great, like, cool to see the post-Empire Tatooine, I guess. He walks into the cantina. I was terrified that we were going to hear. I was like, please, no. Please don't tell me the band is still in there and they got, like, gray hair or and i got gray mustaches but we didn't hear that it was empty they were like that weird like ant cricket or whatever there were a few people in there it's run by a droid and there was the

single worst character i think i've ever seen in my entire life sitting in a han solo seat nonetheless where he shoots grito this guy fucking bob fucking Bobby Carnevale's son, literally Bobby Carnevale's son. He says like, hey, over here, check this out. My name is Toro Calican and I got a side task for you if you want five coins. He says he has to kill some bounty hunter to get into the bounty hunter guild. He's talking like a guy that wants to get into a fraternity. He's got an earring on and he doesn't want the money. So mandalorian is like all right fuck it i'll help you get i think her name was finnick i'll help you get finnick if i could keep the money he says okay and immediately right off the bat i could tell i hated this guy i could tell that every second

that this guy was on the screen i was gonna to hate. And, man, he delivered on that. He really did. Every second he was on the screen, I wanted him to die. I hate that fucking guy. What's his name? Toro? I hate him so fucking much. Even, like, the – you said it was, like, the forced earring. It's like, oh, this is a bad boy because he has an earring in his ear.

Get the fuck off of my screen, Toro. And I'm trying to make the parallels with him and Han Solo. Like, do not. No. You do not get to compare the two of them. So I didn't notice he was sitting in Han's seat. With his feet up on the table. See, I took my glasses off.

I just started rubbing my face. And I don't know if you thought I got bad news about a family member dying. I didn't notice that. And it's like, this is everything that I hate about star wars is they like take the old stuff we're on tatooine we're in the cantina and then we're digging up han solo's corpse and then we're fucking shitting on it and then lighting it on fire stop doing it stop doing it stop everything about this episode was so bad that fucking mando would just kill that guy and take whatever credits he has and keep going. Nothing about this episode made sense.

He would never have accepted this stupid bounty. Nothing about this thing makes – he would have fucking hated that punk. He doesn't give a fuck about – I do think – listen. Listen, you're getting fired up here. I will say I think you were much more down on the episode than I am. I was sort of like – I mostly enjoyed it, but it was my least favorite of the bunch. It seems like you hated it.

I did hate this guy, and I don't know how the Mandalorian... And I say I don't know how you'd ever be friends with him or get along with him or help him out, but I guess in the end, he was fucking him all along. He was going to take the money and be like, fuck it, sure, you get into the guild. The way they go about getting to this lady, they get on speeder bikes. They go there. I thought the speeder bikes looked cool. All the shots of them riding the speeder bikes looked cool.

And they start getting sniped at once they fall into Fennec's trap. They see a body being dragged by a dewback. And they're like, all right, fuck it. Let's wait until the night. They wait until the night. And this is, I thought, a very cool scene where they're shooting they're they're riding speeders towards her and she's trying to snipe them and she's got a thermal scope so they're sending flares up towards her and her scope is kind of of blowing out in in in

white i thought that was all cool i also loved the little shout to episode three when they were like she's got the high ground we we can't that was nice i mean all right feloni we get it yeah we got a high ground yeah it's cool i'm a sucker for a high ground joke too i'm not gonna lie i'll use i'll use it in the blog all the time about everyone who knows the high ground blah blah blah if not your arms will get chopped off and you'll light on fire so they they finally get to her they they outsmart her, and they handcuff her. Now they have to get back. She destroyed one of the speeders, and Finnick does not – or not Finnick. Toro Calican, fucking Bobby Carnevale Jr., doesn't want to let the Mandalorian go because he's like, you're just going to take her and the credits.

He goes to get a due back, and while he does, she convinces him. By the way, this is an interesting tidbit about her. Credit to Jeff D. Loefer alerting me of this. The original voice of Mulan. Huh. I never seen Mulan. Oh, what? Yeah.

That was like the I'm too old for Disney movies and I'm not like old enough to watch them with kids. So there's like that generation of Mulan, Tarzan, Lilo and Stitch. I was that was like I was in college probably or high end of high school. So it's like, I'm telling you, sit down with Sienna, put on Mulan. I'll make a man out of you. Oh, Bob, from the outside looking in, I feel like Mulan doesn't really have the staying power. I'm just going to say, I feel like I haven't missed much with the movies I haven't seen, but I am, I will give it a chance. Listen, I know you didn't like this episode. You don't need to start taking ricochet shots at Moana.

I'm sorry I told you that fun fact, Clem. Quite frankly, I'm sorry I brought that up. You chef-kissed and everything. I feel kind of bad about it now. So she convinces Tora Calican, hey, he's going to fuck you over here, which she was right about. Why don't you let me free? We'll get out of here. I forget what she says. He eventually decides not to. He shoots her. He shoots first. Another here. I forget what she says. He eventually decides not to. He shoots her.

He shoots first. Another fucking Han Solo thing, I assumed. And he goes back, because she alerts him to Baby Yo. That's what she says. He goes back, takes Baby Yo hostage, basically. As soon as the Mandalorian gets back and realizes what's happening, he kills this guy, which I loved.

It was no effort. It was the easiest kill of the season for him. He literally did like a quick move. Boom, you're dead. The guy almost fell on Baby Yo though, and that's what I have an issue with. The recklessness in that decision. Crazy. Okay, so I'm with you on two things here.

One, I like that fucking earring boy killed the girl. Like it was just brutal. Like that was like a brutal move. And I didn't see that coming either, so credit to for they they actually did surprise me with that me too so i like that and i like how he kind of was just flying by he's just flying by the seat of his pants and didn't know what the fuck he was gonna do i dug that and i dug that mando killed him i also too was like my little yo get that little yo up don't don't roll over on him however as dad i'm gonna i think this is good that we're breaking down

these baby yoda episodes because i will say when you have a kid that's either in the car and doesn't like getting in and out of the car doesn't is sleeping you don't want to wake him up and you just need to go in and get a coffee or just you just may leave him in the car and you can see you can still see the car from the deli and you're you know you're not gonna now i'm not gonna go like across a fucking like the dune sea on a speeder with a stranger and leave them with a fucking junkyard fucking perm lady. Nonetheless though, like there's – and that's my own like blood. I'm leaving them in the car as long as I can see them. I hope my wife doesn't listen to this episode.

Like baby – like yeah, Mando, you have to tighten it up, dude. You have to tighten it. And you have to tie and you know what perm lady was actually she had the motherly instinct which i didn't see coming that was completely out of left field on me yeah she did she she was looking out for baby yo maybe more than the mandalorian was so we're shitting on you perm lady but we do appreciate that as as a hashtag protect baby yo podcast and at the end of the episode we get a. We see the dead body of Finnick, and her fob is going off, and someone's walking towards her. We see boots. We see a cape, and they cut to black.

Obviously, this is a big tease. Many people are speculating that this may be Boba Fett, and that would explain why they went to Tatooine in the first place. Maybe this episode was a filler. Maybe it was just to show that we're on Tatooine so you could bring that in. I don't think that's the case. I do think they want you to think it's Boba Fett based on the way they framed it, based on the way – the cape, the boots, whatever. But I'm inclined to believe that it's going to be Gustavo Fring's character because he also wears a cape, and we haven't seen him yet. So who knows?

What do you think? I didn't think of either of those. I was like, again, we're back to fucking regurgitating shit, which I guess Boba Fett would be kind of regurgitating old Star Wars guys. But I thought somehow we have Darth Maul coming back. You thought it was Maul? Maybe. Wait, wait.

No, no. It wouldn't work out. No, it wouldn't work out that way. But you never know. True, I guess No, no. It wouldn't work out. No, it wouldn't work out that way. But you never know. True, I guess. In canon, I will say in canon, he died on Tatooine just prior to episode four. And I know a bunch of people now probably don't even know that and probably are like, what are you talking about? Didn't he die in episode one?

He did, and then he came back, and then through the Clone Wars and through Rebels, he died just before episode four. Yeah, that's OK. Gus Fring's character. I forgot Gus Fring's in this, too. So now I'm getting like excited again. But there's no reason we need to go back to Tatooine to meet Gus Fring. Go to fucking Albuquerque.

It's fucking. It's fucking like before he meets Walter White, just like better call Saul. Just go into that universe. It's fine. I'm sure Disney acquired AMC when they bought fucking 20th century and they bought the entire world. Just do that instead of doing it back in Tatooine. However, how about – just two notes I looked at here as I'm saying this. How about the Tusken Raiders?

They always sneak up on people. They're always looking at the Tusken Raiders and then there's always another Tusken Raider that's like giant in the middle of a desert where there's nothing around. I don't understand. They always sneak up on people. You had to see that coming when he pulled the binoculars out. Fucking Raiders. They're unbelievable. And like we get to learn a little bit of Raider talk and kind of like how they all work.

I did enjoy like learning a little bit about Tusken Raiders. But again, I don't need to see every fucking Star Wars species that I've already seen. And then the other thing, shout out to us on closed captioning because I have to just say this. Closed captioning somehow makes Baby Yoda cuter than he already is. I know. Because this is what they say. Giggling?

Cooing, giggling, and do you know the third one? Maybe not. It says the child coos, the child giggles, and the child babbles. Oh, babbles. Oh, babbles is adorable. Oh, babbles is so cute. No, I didn't know that one. And he has little teeth. I don't know if I ever noticed his little teeth before until this episode.

I'm like, oh, baby Yoda has teeth. I mean, I guess to eat a frog, you have to have something to help get it down, but oh, just the best. I will say, overall, my least favorite episode of the season i'm still hopeful we got three more left of this season what i want going forward as you kind of alluded to earlier i want more continued storyline less serialized i love that every episode which we praised in the beginning so i don't want to come off like hypocrites here but i love that every

episode is its own self-contained thing but we need just a little bit more building and tying the episodes all together yes i'm with you i'm also you have to understand i think last episode i said so far i've given it a b as its midterm grade i've in that time binge watched all of the watchmen and all the watchmen episodes and i'm like oh this isn't a plus and it almost like mando kind of gets like it's like oh i don't know if you're like it's like it's on a curve now you know and it's like i watch minutes watch minutes so next level that it's tough to compare any show to it right now yeah i am upset like i i blocked you today i am on the reddits i am uh it's i've never watched lost i didn't see

the first season i didn't see the leftovers but i know and i know the guy who did those those two shows lindelof does watchman but it's like ever all these little small little details and then the reddit boards give these theories and unlike true detective where all those series were just better than what the show is like they come true or they're better than what people were saying and then if you go through the supplementary material that they have on hbo.com it then all ties together to like you couldn't even fathom. It's incredible. So because of that, I feel like in my brain personally, Mando has taken a little bit of

a hit because it's just being compared to like one of my favorite shows on TV right now. And shout out, if you're interested, Jeff D'Lo, Ken Jack and I do video breakdowns that wind up being pretty long, almost as long as the episodes themselves sometimes of all these episodes. And Jeff gets all the supplementary material from HBO.com and highlights the little things from the news clippings that they'll put out,

the in-universe news clippings and all that. Jeff does an awesome job preparing those shows. We have a fun time debating and theorizing things for Watchmen, so look out for that. That's on Barstool. That's on the Lights, Camera, Barstool YouTube as well. We'll get to some audience questions now. Andrew Cummings says,

Yoda was a huge part of the Republic and Clone Wars and presumably very famous. Why does nobody recognize his species with Baby Yoda? And I sort of thought of this as well. I think the explanation is, one, he's obviously a very rare species. We don't see a lot of these. I think we've only seen three ever. We've seen Yoda, Yaddle, and Baby Yo. I think it's just the galaxy's that big.

I think the galaxy's so massive and there's so many aliens that maybe this show takes place five years after the original trilogy, but 30 years after Yoda went missing or whatever, even more maybe. So people haven't seen Yoda in forever. They think he's dead. I think it's just something like that, went missing or whatever even even more maybe so people haven't seen yoda in forever they think he's dead i think it's just something like that like people that are 40 years old weren't even alive when yoda was around so this this got my brain clicking too because that's i i actually kind of was like how are they like oh that's one of those fucking crazy things that has that can do

anything with the force two things that kind of opened my eyes to like i feel like in star wars is weird like that where it's like some of the technology is so like you know futuristic and some of it's so like rudimentary like they don't have tvs so it's like no one has yeah true like like this is from the news like look at yoda he's on cnn and blah blah blah pictures of yoda imagine yoda complaining about the curtain media culture being like words out of context they always take news fake news i have to remember like someone who was not really actually he wasn't really plugged in with jedi culture but someone who wanted to be a pilot luke skywalker didn't even know what yoda was he fucking was looking for yoda talking to yoda and yoda was eating granola bars and fucking smacking

him upside the head with a cane and he still didn't know he was talking to yoda that whole time if luke didn't know he was yoda like i feel like a lot of these people, like you said, in the future with a rare species, all that other kind of stuff, no TVs. Like there's just – and there's a billion other species in this world. If you say the little green guy, there's probably a thousand little green species in the planet. And I'm sure it seemed like at least by the Empire Strikes Back that the legend of Yoda was out there and people knew him as this great, all-powerful Jedi master. But nobody knew who he was, and that's kind of the big switcheroo that they pull on you once Luke gets the Dagobah. You would never believe that this little creature is this grand legend, but he is. So I think that's sort of the Star Wars explanation.

We forgot to mention this during the recap, but Mike says, yes or no, we see a Hutt this season. We were told in the midst of this Mandalorian episode that Finnick had once worked for the Hutts on Tatooine. I don't think this season, I wouldn't be shocked if we see Hutts at some point, because in the extended universe and extended Star Wars lore, the Hutts are very much a mafia family. They're a mob boss family. There are dozens of Hutts, really. So I think there's the possibility that maybe we see an ancestor of Jabba one day. I don't think it'll be this season. Yeah, I mean, I don't think we have enough episodes left for it, but Chekhov's Hut. 100% seeing a Hut.

100% seeing a Hut in the Mandalorian series. You mention it, we're going to see it. Nick G. Kabi writes in and says, Which Star Wars character would you like to see get a Disney Plus show next? Considering we already know Cassian and Obi-Wan are getting one.

Clem, I can see you're already thinking about it. You're thinking hard. I have an answer ready to go. And I can't take credit for this as such an original thought because I think a lot of people will get behind this and agree with it, but I want to see just a clone trooper show i want to see some kind of rogue squadron uh show me this band of brothers style i think you've maybe even mentioned it on the podcast before something like that would be awesome mine is so goddamn stupid that i can't i

beg i just want more artudita R2-D2 so much he's basically irrelevant in the fucking new trilogy right now hey you know what I wouldn't hate what if they started doing like R2-D2 shorts like they put in front of Disney Pixar movies you know how those shorts are always you know they could be five minutes long

but they'll win like an Oscar for being the greatest thing ever because they really are what if they just used R2 in that way? Yes, Bob. Yes. And even Pixar could use it for one of their future films. It's all family now, right? Just make a Pixar R2 five-minute short or do it in these things.

And they could be as PG as you want them to be. R2-D2 is fucking PG as it is. He's, what are they, slapstick comedy mostly. Yeah. He's the best. Oh, God. I just, I don't know. I really love R2-D2 is fucking PG as it is. He's, what are they, slapstick comedy mostly. Yeah. He's the best. Oh, God. I just, I don't know. I really love RGD2.

I kind of miss him. Man, we're firing off some good ideas on this podcast. If you're one of these major motion picture studios, Bob Iger, once again, give us a call. We'll give you the ideas for free basically. All right. And now for the final question of the show. This is a big one. Liam Barry wrote in and wanted to know how we rank the major Star Wars lightsaber fights.

So we've each written down a top five list. I've got some honorable mentions. Do you have honorable mentions on yours? Bob, you were like, should we do top five or three? And I'm like, that's nice of Bob to ask. I said three, and then I was like, I don't have a mention. How about five? You're going to have top 100, so just do whatever you want to do.

I have five that aren't even in order. I'm just going to kind of piece them as I go along. So you go with your top mentions, your honorable mentions. All right, my honorable mentions right off the bat. Number one, paying credit where credit is due. The OG, Obi-Wan versus Vader, A New Hope. I know a lot of kids my age these days, these millennials, will shit on this lightsaber fight. Will say not enough action, not enough this, not enough that.

When you consider, especially, this is one of the things that I think the prequels really improve about A New Hope. The history behind Obi-Wan and Anakin. Once you get to that point, yes, they're old men at that point. And they don't move quite as nimbly as they used to. But I think it just has so much heart so much drama behind it so that is number one honorable mention number two and you're gonna hate this one is Luke versus Kylo Ren from The Last Jedi this this was hard for me not to put in my top five because I think the twist in this lightsaber fight is as good as any Star Wars twist out there that Luke was

projecting himself onto Crait I know some people don't like that. Some people would have rather he really showed up. I love the mentality that Luke was able to stop the First Order, allow the Resistance to get free without harming anybody. It's the true Jedi Master way, only using their power for knowledge or self-defense. So that, and it's also just shot like a samurai fight, which is so fucking cool to me. That is my second honorable mention, and then third honorable mention, and this is my final honorable mention,

is Rey versus Kylo Ren from The Force Awakens. I think this fight is the perfect combination of, like, the prequels, crazy, exciting style, and the emotional style from the original trilogy. The moment where the force does awaken in Rey is awesome. I mean, her grabbing the lightsaber chills every single time when it

flies past Kylo at the beginning of that fight. So, and her, her like pretty much dominating him at the end, which is another thing I know sequel trilogy detractors hate. And they're like, how could she be this powerful? Whatever. I love when she pieces him up at the end and the star killer base starts to explode so those are my honorable mentions um and i could i could let you start with the list all right um and i will say the the four as i put as i put this list together i realized that like the first like you said the original trilogy they had so much like like emotion to, whereas the other – the original – the prequels then was just so much like more action because lightsabers had been so established by that point. But it obviously didn't have the heaviness to them and it also – let's be honest. Like the prequels suck.

So that kind of hurts. I mean we love them, but they suck. Is there any General Grievous on any of your list here, Bob? I would – There's not. I'm sorry to report that there's not. Thank god. Thank – I know your that there's not. Thank God. I know your nephew is diehard General Grievous.

He loves him. He absolutely loves him. But no, I think my list, I think you'll vibe heavy with my list, as the kids say. Fair enough. And I will say this as well, because you already mentioned it.

I have to say A New Hope, not on my list at all. Not even on it. Because when you think about it, it's kind of a shitty fucking point. Listen, it's not great. It was on my honorable mention list. I'm just showing credit to a legend. Yes, exactly.

Nice hat tip. All right, coming in at five for me, I got – this was tough. This is a surprisingly tough one. Yoda versus Darth Sidious. Just because we see Yoda getting into the action here, fucking hopping around, acting like a crazy person. And at this point, if you don't know who Yoda is at this point when he's fucking doing backflips and shit. Is he doing backflips? Oh, he's doing flips of all sorts.

In this fight and the one in him and Dooku in Attack of the Clones. Exactly. He's flipping around like a pinball. I actually, hand up, don't love that. I don't love Yoda flipping around like a pinball. I like Yoda more as that wizard type where where he like only just uses the force or something. Him with the lightsaber, I know people love. I'm not the biggest fan. So my five is Anakin Skywalker versus Obi-Wan Kenobi from Revenge of the Sith. This is a lightsaber fight

that I think a lot of people go, how could that not be your number one? Because as I tweet, you know, every time I tweet about Star Wars, I get people that, mostly my age, that are insanely nostalgic for this movie and this lightsaber fight in particular. I think it's a great one. It's just a bit too long for me when I watch it nowadays. It's like 45 minutes long. It's absurd. And there are so many moments in it where they're floating on something and the lava, they're floating over the lava or they're on some catastrophic falling down building or they're doing lightsaber moves where they're just spinning them around and it's kind of useless. I love it. I really do. But it just doesn't crack like my really upper echelon of lightsaber fights.

That's fair. I have it at four myself. So we're kind of there and it's the same reason for me as it is for you because i i've a couple times through like the blog i've had to get like a picture or a gif or get the quote down and there is a lot of just like floating over lava and you're just like damn this scene is really long or in the theory you're just like engulfed with it i think it's like replay value kind of goes down it does end with like you know basically the birth of darth vader which is kind of it gives yeah it gives it like some

some definite points the one thing about this is a lot of things you with a lot of these i think on our both our lists is like the fight might not be good but it had such you know emotion in the moment or it's very rare you had like everything kind of come together in one fight so i'm with you on that that's why it's four for me which one for you my number four ray and kylo ren versus the praetorian guards in the last jedi this is a moment in the last jedi that every single time i saw it in theaters which was uh seven times by the way i got such chills when kylo and ray go back to back it's that slow motion fight the pan through where it's like a one shot of, and Daisy Ridley actually just broke this down for GQ,

I believe, GQ Britain or something. She broke it down and said there was a scene during it where she actually slices one of the Praetorian guards and yells, cunt. And they had to edit her audio bite out of the movie and put in like her being like, ah,

or something, you know? So, and it's a shot that made the movie, so very funny. And the ending of it where Kylo Ren just enables the lightsaber for like one second and puts it through that Praetorian Guard's skull, fucking incredible. So this is my number four lightsaber fight. Do you like this?

We haven't talked about The Last Jedi in detail for a few years now. It's been a while. Do you like the actual lightsaber fight? It's like politics at the Thanksgiving table. We've learned just to avoid certain topics. When you were talking about the Luke thing with Kylo, I don't have any emotions on it because I saw it once. It's not even like I didn't like or dislike the fight. I just had no emotion towards it because I was at that point just so out of love.

I don't really like this movie. We should almost do a rewatch pod, rewatch it, and we just go – you go to bat with everything you love. I pick it apart with everything I hate. It's like the dark side and the light side. I would love to do that. I think people would dig that too. Like we mentioned, like we have both sides. Yeah, and that will lead us into Rise of Skywalker.

It's just a rewatch where it's a person who loves it with all their heart and hates it with all their heart. It would be kind of interesting. But I don't want to – like I don't know if our relationship is ready to go. I know. Can it take it? That would be hysterical if it's another Brandon Walker Devlin thing where people just hear screams coming from the office. They're like, wait, who the fuck is that? And it's like, wait, fuck is that and it's like wait it's robbie and clem that was yeah out of everyone at barstool like me and you have to be in like the bottom tier

we have to be the least likely the least like i think we're number one least likely now i have the weight on you but you have the technique on technique on me and i i've never been a little secret here i say i have technique and I don't really. You put on gloves though. You did put on gloves and you dreamt of being a UFC fighter at one point. I will give you that much, but we'll leave it at that. You challenged a lot of people to the octagon, which was a great way to kind of make your name. You were just challenging people to fight.

Yeah, and then if you noticed, as soon as Barstool acquired Ruff and Rowdy, I was like, I'm going to think of a different gimmick here. We're going to pivot. What do you got for number three on your list? All right. This is going to be where I think it gets interesting with us. I have the Phantom Menace fight, a triple threat match, which I think – Oh, Clem.

Number three for me. Phantom Menace triple threat match. So I think with this one, it's prequel nonsense, which hurts it. But it has Duel of Fates, which is fucking unbelievable. I mean, I don't even think I could say it could be the best Star Wars song because I think the Imperial March and just the theme song. Binary Sunset, too. Binary Sunset is next level. Fair enough. The best score ever behind a lightsaber fight, hands down.

Hands down, 100%. behind a lightsaber fight hands down hands down 100 like that's when you're like oh lightsaber fights are going to go to another level in the prequels and we kind of like you know they shot their load in the first one unfortunately um the fact we get two deaths is just fucking crazy you don't get that in any lightsaber fight with this magnitude um and obviously that's where the mall really comes out with the double blade um and like when those walls and they're going in and out, your heart is beating. And you also – you know Obi-Wan survives. It's almost like when you're watching like Borwick Empire and it's like with Al Capone. You're like, well, he's going to survive this because he's fucking Al Capone.

He lives. It was kind of like I know Obi-Wan survives and it still leaves you breathless. But in the end, it's's just it's prequel and it doesn't match the gravity of the two in my opinion yeah it definitely doesn't have the emotional gravity it has like you said the moment where quag one gets stabbed and obi-wan experiences that shout out to you and mcgregor for making us feel those emotions because if another actor was in that role i don't know if we would have because his reaction is all time this is a fight that just has so many moments and this is the one that me and my cousin kenny would reenact more than any other when we were kids you know darth darth maul igniting the double blades for the

first time when that those walls open when they go down into that room full of like the it was almost energy chambers at first and then they move into the room with the energy walls him stabbing Qui-Gon and then kicking Obi-Wan down the hole Obi-Wan holding on getting Qui-Gon saber like everything about this fight just reminds me of like watching the Phantom Menace a thousand times on VHS on my grandma's VHS player and coloring and wrapping paper tubes to make them look like lightsabers so So I'm like super nostalgic for that. I love it. That's my number three.

What do you got for number two? I have a feeling. I mean, I don't want to, I don't want to jinx this, but if our top three are the same, oh my goodness. What do you got? Yeah. All right. So this will be interesting here.

So two, I got Empire Strikes Back. Okay. I don't, I got Return of the Jedi. All right. And then are you empire number one okay good so we're right there we're in the original trilogies but um it's just flip-flop so this is some i feel like the thing about okay now that i'm thinking about it the fact we get the reveal of the dad is like that's the greatest reveal of all time in movie history yeah i could

put it higher than i didn't think like that after the fight, but if you put it in there, it probably goes to my number one. So I don't know. I kind of want to have a different top five than you, but I think – I don't know. Ours are – our top five, we had four of the – four of the five are the same, and our top three are the same in just different orders. I kind of love that about us. We're just the same. We're cut from the same cloth. We're cut from the same and our top three are the same and just different orders. I kind of love that about us. We're just the same. We're cut from the same cloth. We're cut from the same Tommy John cloth.

That's the only thing is The Last Jedi is the only thing that separates basically our worldview on Star Wars universe. Yeah, so I loved – I mean Empire is a top five overall movie for me in any kind of movie where the Jedi, I really – it's probably my least favorite of the original trilogy. But just the whole like everything is ending here. Is Luke going to turn? All that kind of stuff. And then obviously when Vader turns on the emperor, all that, the whole way when he finds out about Leia. I don't know if either of them or – neither of them are really technically near as good as like half the shit in the prequels, right? Or even the new trilogy.

They're just so fucking – like you you said they're so gripping like your heart is beating out of your chest for every second of both of them like you said the return of the jedi one that moment where darth vader it's all dark and the emperor is watching over everything and darth vader mentions leia and luke fucking freaks out and goes after him like that's's one of the best Star Wars moments ever when Luke is like trying his hardest not to give into the dark side, but his dad's bringing up his fucking sister in front of him. And there's a creepy old dude named fucking Sheev in the back who wants him to fight each other, wants him to die.

Like everything about both of them. And then for me, the Empire Strikes Back one. I love that it was Luke going after Vader and being like, fuck it, alright, here we go. This is Luke versus Vader one if we're talking combat sports terms. It's my favorite Luke outfit ever. The jumpsuit that he wears in Cloud City. And the environment of it helps

it a lot. I think the orange glow of the room where Han just got put in carbonite and the way they crash out through that window, as you said, the big reveal. And Return of the Jedi. Even if through that window as you said the the big reveal and return of the jedi even if you say empire has the moment of the reveal return of the jedi has the moment of the turn the redemption for anakin skywalker which as long as you take out the blue ray special edition no it's just as good as that reveal for a lot of people so i think they're

all yeah good let me say this i've never seen a lightsaber fight that I was like, that was horrible. Like, lightsabers are fucking cool, man. Lightsabers are so awesome. I think I made it. I didn't make a point of this on a past podcast. We were talking about the toys. I still don't know why they don't have a toy where you hit the button and it actually goes up and you hit it and it goes down. That's the one thing I think, like, unless they have them by now, I don't think they do.

I don't think they do, though. No, I'm pretty sure they don't it's weird they should you shouldn't have to flick your wrist to get it kind of kills the whole point of because the way vader turns it on so pimp or he just hits the button just kind of and that first shot of vader and luke in empire strikes back where they're the silhouettes and their lightsabers cross oh fucking phenomenal and And the fact that Vader puts his lightsaber like right up to Luke's face and Luke is just, let's do this, old man.

Let's fucking go. The impressive, most impressive, that's like a sweet line too, how he hops out and everything. I will say, as I'm thinking of this though, I think the reason why I don't have it there is again, I love Empire. I definitely love the Millennium Falcon story. That crew is what I love about

Empire. It's not as much Luke. I mean, I love Yoda and whatever. But whenever I watch the movie, it's all about Han. It's all about R2-D2, to be honest with you. No, I said Millennium Falcon and R2-D2 are my two favorite characters in these movies. And obviously Lando's Lando, so he's up there too. And the thing about Return of the Jedi, the two other reveals we get is – or the two other moments I love is when you chop off the hand. You realize Vader's hand is obviously shot too. So you see the parallels with Luke. And then when Luke actually goes to kill the empire, the emperor, and Vader blocks him. And it's like, oh, shit here.

Like Luke is starting to go the wrong way. And there's just – man, I'm getting goosebumps just thinking about it. One of the most subtle things about the Return of the Jedi fight that I guess isn't as subtle nowadays because you see it all over these Star Wars fact Instagram pages and whatnot. But he's wearing a black jumpsuit the entire movie, and it is symbolizing he's kind of leaning towards the dark side. We see in the beginning he's using the Force choke on some of java's guards and by the end of that fight it flaps open and you could see that it was white inside all along you know luke was light inside all along that's that next level thinking that was put into the original trilogy that just makes me fucking think it's the greatest thing to ever grace this earth that's how like this series is still going so strong even though people have been very – I mean like the prequels are basically universally despised.

The new trilogy has – People like don't care. It's weird. Yeah. People are just like, oh, no. It's fine. You ruined the origin story of like this entire universe where it's like we should really not even care about the new trilogy if the old trilogy got – the original trilogy got ruined by the prequels. But the fact that, yeah, like it did that, it's kind of amazing to me. That's about it for My Mom's Basement this week.

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