My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 39 - 'STAR WARS: THE RISE OF SKYWALKER' PREGAME SHOW/THE MANDALORIAN CHAPTER 6 DISCUSSION WITH CLEM!

Episode Date: December 16, 2019

***SKIP TO 41:36 TO AVOID SPOILERS FOR 'THE MANDALORIAN'*** Robbie and Clem sit down in the Basement one last time before ‘The Rise of Skywalker' to discuss everything there is to discuss about the conclusion to the Skywalker Saga, and as per usual, break down the latest episode of 'The Mandalorian' - which includes Bill Burr's debut in the Star Wars Universe.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Of course, joining me as always is the Finn to my Poe Dameron. Clem, how are we doing? It's crazy to think that I'd rather be the Jabba to your Slave Leia, but you know my opinion of the new trilogy. However- Listen, I tried to give you Finn. I thought maybe you like Finn more than Poe Dameron. I know you're a, you're a big Poe Dameron hater. I don't, I don't know.

Yeah, that's true. I am. I like Finn more than Poe Dameron. I also like basically anyone in the world more than Poe Dameron. I don't, we'll get into it down. I know we'll,

we'll get into the rise of Skywalker. I, I, as I said with before last Jedi, this guy can prove it to me still. I still, I still think he's like a, a,

a Walmart version of Han Solo. We'll see if he can kind of, you know, bring the heat here. So it's up to him. four last jedi this guy can prove it to me still i still i still think he's like a a walmart version of han solo we'll see if he can kind of you know bring the heat here so it's up to him so and i'm gonna be very very fair and balanced i heard some people asking if i was gonna be like a negative nancy about rise of skywalker i promise i will not go in with an open mind just like i went into the last jedi thinking it was gonna be good and i did not like it but i told it like it was i've always done it that's the one thing you can say about me i am right down the middle of the forest not good or bad right down the middle bobby i love that i love that balance did you go into and i guess we'll get into this a ton later but did you go into like episode two and three with that same open mind after

being burned by the phantom menace i was like i was like it can't be worse right i think in that what was it like two year difference-year difference from one to two? Two or three, yeah. Yeah, I was like, I think I was still in like shell shock from it. I was like, I still can't believe that happened. And like you couldn't, like it just never sunk in that they actually did that with The Phantom Menace. So I still don't know if I've recovered fully from The Phantom Menace. Yeah, I obviously never experienced that because I was too young.

The first Star Wars movie I really remember seeing in theaters was Revenge of the Sith, and I was over the moon about that. That was the greatest thing in the world to little seven-year-old Bob. But I will say I watch those now, and I'm like, I don't know how people couldn't tell that two and three were not going to be good after watching the first one because clearly nothing they were doing was working like nothing and i guess maybe maybe some people will say you're a hypocrite because you liked the last jedi like i'm sure people that didn't like the last jedi maybe you're going into the rise of skywalker being like i don't know how this could be good if you don't like any of the characters from this trilogy you're kind of fucked yeah and and i think the the biggest thing with two and three for me was it was like all right now anakin's grown up so it's like we don't have this little kid here and it's not the kids he's a kid actor who cares and it was like it's like as long as they're not

going to talk about like taxation and trade wars we'll be all right but i mean they still like kind of screwed up in episode two for being honest yeah but that's the thing here like we thought i think we talked about this last episode they or i think we actually talked about in the office it's like you could get mad about the sequels like i said after last jedi how it kind of ruined sky you know the the original trilogy for me because this is what happens after it but they if you think about how much they ruined the prequels and the origin story oh my god original trilogy it's like they've just i said it on the podcast about this too it's like I think there's basically three movies that are a B or higher in my book, and it's the original trilogy. That's just a lot of like mad to bad movies.

So it's like just have fun with it. Hopefully it's good. If it sucks, we just watch the original trilogy for the rest of our lives on Disney Plus and ignore the other six movies happening altogether or five or four depending how you feel. So hopefully, hope for the best. Expect the worst. Yeah, just – if you don't like it pull it out of your head canon pretend it didn't happen you could literally pretend that the ending of return of the jedi is the ending to the saga that's that's fine by me i have a thing

now where i convinced myself that the mets won the 2006 world series caught the ball at game seven of the nlcs he catches the ball mets win even though it was a tie game and the mets somehow win the world series on that catch. And it's like, you know what? Mentally, I'm healthier for it. I was going to say that's like some strong willpower in your brain to be like, yep, that absolutely happened. That's some Jedi shit.

And speaking of the prequels, this is weird. But TNT's obviously been running like Star Wars marathon constantly trying to get people excited. And it just so happened over this weekend, I went home back to Jersey, and I love flipping through cable because I have YouTube TV here. So I was flipping through all the channels, wound up just watching Attack of the Clones

twice from start to finish in the span of 24 hours. I don't know how that happened, but I accidentally stumbled into it. The second time, my mom walked into the room, and we were talking about it, and I was kind of explaining, like, oh real bad watch this this is pretty funny eventually she just looked at me and said how did this get made i was like i don't know give us the mom of fox jersey accent give it to us that way i want to hear it rab rab how did this how did this get

made rab it's crazy no nobody even knows how to act in this thing. I got her hooked on Joe Rogan now, though. My mom, she's the coolest fucking mom in the world because as she was dropping me off at the train station, she was like, hook me up with a good Joe Rogan podcast. So I was like, fuck yeah. Put on Joe Rogan, Kevin Smith. Entered yes. I was like, this is great. My mom's going to listen to my idols talk the whole time.

Another thing that happened over this past weekend, UFC 245. It was a huge card, three title fights. Our guy Kamaru Usman got a huge win in an instant classic welterweight title fight against Colby Covington, and we launched a Barstool MMA Twitter account. Spinning Backfist is the name of it. That's spinning backfist, but without the G on spinning. The goal for that is basically going to be all different social channels instagram twitter whatever for all of your mma needs anything an mma fan would want to see we'll throw it on there the same way that you know you would see anything you want for if you're an mlb fan on the starting nine account or a hockey fan on the spit and chiclets account so we have like i think the first night we got over 7 000

followers if you were one of those people, thank you very much. That took me by surprise completely. I was like, Ooh, I really hope we could hit four digits on the first night. We hit like 7,200. So I appreciate that. If you, if you haven't followed that, if you're interested in MMA, do that. And as always, if you haven't subscribed to this show already, please throw us the the subscribe please leave us a rating and review maybe maybe leave us like what's a fun thing we could have people leave in in their in their reviews this week hmm i want to almost say like predictions for rise of skywalker it's we'll do how about predictions for rise of skywalker and don't look at other people's predictions until after the movie in case anyone writes spoilers that's what i like oh i don't think you know what i think the people listening to this

podcast i don't think they'll write spoilers yeah i don't think so if they will they we have their username we'll call up apple we'll get their information and we'll taste their credit card information sell it on the dark web so don't that's probably it's an empty threat i don't mean it in the least i'm just kidding back to the ending of jane silent bob strike back when they just take all of that movie money and they hunt down everyone that talks shit on them they're like hey are you uh so and so on movie crapshoot.com they're like yeah why and they just start beating the shit out of them you are the ball lickers yes that's like my fantasy let. Let me do this live on the podcast right here, Bob.

I didn't know about Spinning Back Fist. That was gone all weekend. I am going to do a live follow of Spinning Back Fist. If you can listen to the – we're going to put the – Nope. You just turned your mic off, I think. There we go. Just turn the mic off.

We're back on. All right. We're going to do a live click right here. We're at 79.13. 79.14. I am a Spinning Back Fist. 79? We're almost at 8,000? I'm're almost at 8 000 i'm breaking it too i'm breaking it by the

time this episode airs we might be at like a hundred thousand by the time this episode airs i i'm not in ufc like die hard but i'm a casual fan because it's it's fucking awesome let's be honest the reason it's like the fastest growing sport in the world i just made that stat up but it's probably right um if you can't get into just like you said for all your mixed martial arts slash barbaric human cockfighting needs if you can't get into that kind of like yeah we're posting knockouts we're posting cool clips cool submissions cool fight finishes i mean it's it's you know backstage encounters promos we just posted the promo for connor and cowboy it's it'll be a good account for, I think, anyone to follow.

Casual fan, hardcore fan, whatever. Yep, it's perfect. And I've always relied on the Bob Fox feed. Now we have someone that just is exclusively that. It's perfect. It's perfect. All right, let's get into the meat and potatoes of this episode. Let's talk some Star Wars beginning things with The Mandalorian Chapter 6. Right off the bat, we needed a rebound this week last week we both

didn't really love chapter five we had that Disney Channel uh bounty hunter that the Mandalorian was helping out we had that mechanic lady that was watching over baby yo she was doing a good job but we you know just didn't love having baby yo in her hands Clem you and me haven't talked about the Mandalorian at all I have specifically refrained from talking to you about the Mandalorian because I want a live reaction for the two of us. What did you think about the Mandalorian? Are we back on track? Okay. We are back on track, but the track is a different track than I thought we were on.

We're on a different ride than I was expecting. You know what? I think I agree with you. Why don't you elaborate a little bit on that? I think we think by what is this this was episode six right yep chapter six hey show it some respect chapter six the fancy version it's like saying it's a film instead of a movie like for chapter six of the mandalorian episode nine comes out this week yes six out of eight yeah we can't be throwing episode E word around. There's a lot of – yeah, that's true.

That's a heavy word in the universe, a galaxy far, far away. So it's three-quarters of the way through the fucking series now or the season. And there's – again, I think things will loosely connect down the road. But the fact we've come this far, we didn't go back and address what happened with that bounty hunter or whoever's foot was there getting her. And just like it's just not going to be like that. It's just going to be these one offs. We're going to have continuation like, you know, he picks up Baby Yo and him and Baby Yo are now a part of it. It's not going to be this series like everything matters. It's like the wire.

It's like Watchmen where everything's so connected down the road. And again, I'm going to rewatch Watchmen. We were taping this before the finale on Sunday night. a wire it's like watchman where everything's so connected down the road and again i'm gonna re-watch watch when we were taping this before the finale on sunday night i'm gonna re-watch the entire series just because i think it's gonna be like a whole new series to me with like your eyes open and you know all the answers to the test now and it all makes perfect sense this is gonna be completely different it's gonna just be eight different chapters like you said it's like different books basically it's eight different books instead of chapters and you know what i'm fine with it i'm fine with it i have to recalibrate what i expect from the show what i want from the show and where i think the show is going

but there's nothing wrong with that and my biggest thing is that what i want from this series now is i want a an expansion of the universe like we said don't keep going to tatooine and hop and which let me that that whole thing that goes that that that wanting to expand the universe comes from like every single video game they ever made for stars it was always going to like the same planets and it drove me crazy you always fought the battle hoth you always fought like in an end or just give me something new so give me something fresh and we'll get into it this episode. Do all the cool-ass photography cinematic tricks with Star Wars characters involved. Like we'll get into it.

And I was like, oh, that's cool. And I was like, but that's with Star Wars characters, which makes it even cooler, which I think – the Darth Vader scene, for example, from – Rogue One. Rogue One. Like being able to do that with – good night, baby. Love you. We got a live good night on the show now. Good night, Sienna. Bob says good night.

She gave a wave. Yeah, but like seeing that in like with a Star Wars character like Darth Vader involved made it so fucking cool. Instead of just seeing it in some random like a Jason movie, it was Darth was darth vader playing the role of jason pretty much and and that's what i got so i'm i don't want to you know i don't want to get into spoilers but i i've recalibrated what i think it is it doesn't make me like the show any more or less per se i don't think it's like i'm not gonna have it like first thing i watch in the morning i don't because i'm worried about spoilers and stuff like that it's just gonna be a nice treat's a nice snack, a nice 30 minute snack for me. Yeah, I'm with you. It's it's way more serial than I expected way more of that old school

Flash Gordon stuff that inspired Star Wars, the one offs, the Clone Wars, if you will, or rebels style things where each episode is its own story. And yes, there is an overarching plot. And yes, that they are going to connect some things and that watching every episode will definitely help you in the overall expansion of it but i expected more of an overarching story for the season going in just like you did now with you it doesn't make me like the show any more or less it's just oh okay it's more of like an accepting of this is what it is. And I guess I should have been accepting of this the whole time because they pitched it as this.

If you watch interviews with Favreau and Filoni beforehand, they said, you know, it's very serial. It's very Flash Gordon. It's very what inspired Star Wars in the first place, very Western. But this episode definitely, like you said, it being six out of eight made me realize like, oh, okay. Did you know, we didn't have like a few buffer episodes, the buffer episodes sort of are where they were just slower, regular episodes. Yeah. And kind of to borrow from that, we heard about the Western with, um, El Camino and everyone was expecting that to be, you know, the continuation of Breaking Bad, the sequel. It's it's like no it's just its own little one off to the side and i think you know they they mentioned how how it was going to be with that and we were all like all right well this is going to be you know david you know

different version no just it's it's a standalone thing if you like it it's obviously all weaves in together it has some of like some references to your favorites that got you in the door whether you're a breaking bad fan or a star Wars fan, but it's not the same. They could have just called the show Baby Yoda. It would have been a big spoiler, though, because that's the star of the show when push comes to shove. I do think we're going to get a lot of answers come time for the finale.

Agreed. Is that this week? No, it's... This week we have a Wednesday episode drop because of the rise of Skywalker, and we have nothing on Friday. And then next week it will be back to Friday. Gotcha.

Okay. I was really confused. I didn't know if we were getting another double dip. But a Wednesday episode is perfect because, you know, everyone – Thursday is when the general public can start watching. So I'm happy to hear that. So all right. We're in a good place. I will say we're in a good place.

Again, not the top of my list, but you know it's it's a friday i watch it friday no matter what it's just not i'm not like getting up and being like all right we're gonna get answers from last episode nope we're gonna get some cool stuff with a star wars twist to it which i'm fine with all right let's get into spoilers now we're gonna go into the the nitty-gritty of this episode the details so if you want to skip this if you want to get right to our Rise of Skywalker preview, go to the timestamp in the description below. All right. So the episode starts with the Razorcrest coming into this kind of, it looked like a

space garage almost. There were a ton of people, like it was a dark, shady thing. There was blowtorches going off in the background. And Mando meets with this guy that kind of looks like Rickick rubin and he runs an unlicensed bounty guild like they don't follow the the guild rules of the bounty they're kind of shady they're kind of black market and finally the guy that we've been waiting to see all season is a part of it bill burr playing the character named mayfeld and holy fuck bill burr steals the absolute show in this episode billy bounty hunter is out i forgot billy bounty hunter

billy bounty hunter was even a thing in the thing out in the show and i was like oh shit that's right bill burr because i i get into like the the room like you know you have the announcement i'm all into it but then i kind of just forget i got the kids now i'm in my own world and then it's such a pleasant surprise and um like i could have done really I didn't really love the wizard looking guy I think I will go I'm sure around the different characters in this episode but Bill Burr just lands every fucking thing the fucking incredible did he say the stormtrooper joke yes yes so so he he's introduced as a former imperial uh sharpshooter and Mando makes some kind of snide remark. He's like, well, that's not saying much.

And Bilber turns around and he says, hey, I wasn't a stormtrooper, wiseass, in that Boston accent. And it's just like, oh, the Boston accent is now Star Wars canon and Bilber's roasting stormtroopers? What more can we ask for? See, that is exactly what we were saying like having some humor with the star wars it's the running joke that stormtroopers are just awful at aiming in general and they're they're it's like it's been a running joke for i mean decades now to see that brought back around and them address it and again when you when you have these like you said serial episodes you kind of just say stuff like that and you don't you could just land as a joke and not be important

to the plot line and not waste any time so bravo that just got like i had a legit ll moment at that so funny he had three for me and they were all three like we referenced these in our lights camera barstool recap videos if you want to check those out oh and by the way we are going to be doing a lights camera barstool recap video for the Rise of Skywalker that will go out on Thursday night. While you're in the theater, it's going to be published, and once you get out, boom, it'll be ready to go. So the three things that we mentioned in that video that Bill Burr said that cracked us up, the one, I wasn't a Stormtrooper wise-ass,

two, a little shout-out to CantoBite. I know bringing up old wounds for you, you don't love CantoBite, but he looks at the Razorcrest and he's like like it looks like a slot machine from canto bite and three the gungan impression he does like basically an actual jar jar binks impression and he says uh they're they're kind of giving mando shit on the ship this this team of bounty hunters they're like take that helmet off why don't we see what's under that helmet man and it was like a scene that actually gave me anxiety like secondhand anxiety to watch because it feels like a high school peer pressure thing you know and bill burr goes maybe he's a gungan is that why you said don't want to take that off and i was like holy fuck they're letting

billy redface fucking roast star wars can you imagine if that's gonna end up being the twist like i i've already said i subscribe to the jar the darth jar jar theory because it's the only way the phantom menace actually ends up making sense if end up they they pivot and they make the mandalorian a gungan would be absolutely incredible and and kfc clearly didn't hear our episode because mando fucks with that helmet oh he fucks with that helmet on he ain't taking that helmet off of some fucking boom from fake ass bounty hunter fucking guild that has a fucking little shitty garage uh what is it gone in 60 seconds that's what reminded me of this crew oh yeah kind of yeah so we could go through the crew now we had like i mentioned bill burr he was kind of the leader of it felt like he was mayfeld we had

clancy brown playing a character named Burg. He's the voice of Mr. Krabs. He's also in, like, Shawshank. He's in Thor Ragnarok. He's in a bunch of shit. He was the devil-looking guy. He's just basically a devil. I called him Hellboy.

I was in my notes as Hellboy. But he's also, like, his species is in Mos Eisley, right? We see them when they're kind of cutting. Is that, like like creepy look on his face kind of a thing okay uh we had a twi'lek named shion i think that was how how they were saying her name shion something like did not care for her very much i just it was like her amanda had that weird did they don't they vibe going yeah twi'lek twi'lek however you say that they always freak me out any kind of twi'lek i well i'lek, however you say that, they always freak me out. Any kind of Twi'lek. Well, I shouldn't say always because there are.

I guess the one in Jabba's Palace that's like dancing around. She's fine. But I think of Bib Fortuna right away. And that motherfucker was so creepy. And I think of – who was the other Twi'lek from the original trilogy that creeped me the fuck out? I forget who, but just kind of a creepy species. Don't mean to discriminate, but – That's a problematic thing to say in 2019, Bob.

They're listening. You're going to get a one-star review with all those guesses for Skywalker. And then there was a droid named Zero that was also part of their crew. And the mission was they wanted to break out who we later found out was Shion's brother from a New Republic prison. This I also loved. I loved bringing in the New Republic aspects and letting us see what that was like, what the transition from the Rebel Alliance to the New Republic was in between 6 and 7, like we've discussed. Seeing a little more of that, seeing that they were, you know, carrying people prisoner,

and seeing their prisoner transport ship, awesome. Really cool the way they designed that ship to be almost like a maze, almost reminded me a lot of like the Tantive from A New Hope. I also liked how like the New Republic had a little bit of muscle to them. Like, oh shit, the New Republic, that's a, you know, it wasn't like, oh, those are X-Wings. X-Wings were known as like the little scrappy ships in episode four. And by this point, which is after episode six, it's like, oh, those motherfuckers got an X-Wing on them. So I kind of like seeing that evolution of the New Republic or the Rebellion, whatever you want to call it.

No, that was definitely awesome. So they start the mission, the mission to break this guy out of his prison cell. They find out – the Mandalorian at least finds out. Everyone else knew that it was She-An's brother. They all give the Mandalorian shit least finds out. Everyone else knew that it was She-An's brother. They all give the Mandalorian shit the whole time. It's clear there's some tension between the crew. Seems like Mayfeld is kind of trying to put his big dick on the table a ton. And the Mandalorian's not having it.

But he's not having it. And what's the deal? Everyone – okay. So the Mandalorian, they're kind of just hiding, right? They're in hiding as a species or whatever. So I guess there's some. I'm sure this Mandalorian isn't the only one who's of just hiding, right? They're in hiding as a species or whatever. So I guess there's some. I'm sure this Mandalorian isn't the only one who's out there crushing, right? I'm sure.

No, he's got a whole tribe. Yeah, he is the tribe, but I'm sure they're all not out doing work. But I feel like everyone calls him Mando, which I guess like he's not the only Mandalorian. It would be like, hey, Caucasian. Hey, he's not the only guy. But then I'm also thinking, is it? Do you think it's almost like if you have an Irish friend with the last name Fitzpatrick, that's Fitzy. And then if you have a Sullivan, he's Sully. And he's a Mandalorian, that guy is Mando.

If you have a Mandalorian in your crew, if you have two Mandalorians, you have two guys named Mando. You basically – big Mando, little Mando, whatever it is. So I was trying to figure that out and I guess we started calling him Mando from the jump jump as well so i guess that's just kind of how it rolls in that yeah that's right i think it helps with him being the main character of this series and especially us not knowing his actual name yet and nobody knowing his actual name but i do think you're right big mando little mando i think it's like a one fish two fish red, red fish, blue fish thing. And he's kind of a bitch too. Like they were just getting on his ass. And like I kind of like that our guy Mando isn't just some badass motherfucker who's just going to like kill anyone who speaks out against him. They're roasting him.

They're chirping him. I mean they're fucking – they're turning on him. They're doing all that kind of stuff. And even like he does have like a legitimate – he's terrified of droids. He doesn't – He's terrified of droids. He's almost like he had a job with snakes. Yes. does have like a legitimate he's terrified of droids he doesn't he's terrified of snakes yes and and that's what i was just gonna say is he reminds me of an 80s action hero he reminds me

of an indiana jones type of john mclean type of rambo type who yes maybe they get their ass kicked a ton but they're always gonna get back up that's kind of the charm of them more than they're this invincible modern superhero and he gets into that fight with the droids early on. The droids that kind of looked L3-like a little bit. This fight was awesome. The way he used everything in his arsenal. He used the scorpion, get over here, grappling hook. He used the fire.

He shot through one of their heads. We got, like you said, that cool camera angle where they shot through the head and you could see the mandalorian through the hole in the hole he just shot oh so good all of that was dope and then eventually they break the guy out and they kick the mandalorian into the transport they turn on him another classic star wars betrayal yeah the old wwe backstab whatever i also love the mousy joint. Yes. That was a nice little callback.

I wasn't sure where they were going to go with the prisoner. When I found out it was a brother, and obviously he had some history with the Mandalorian, and obviously his sister, I was kind of – it was like a mix of I wanted to have some crazy species come out of there. But I actually liked how it was like you could sense there was a history amongst the crew and that was a kind of a cool thing and then you said like they had been planning this whole thing for from the jump basically and you know old billy bounty hunter is the only reason mando wasn't killed basically on the spot and eventually the mandalorian figures out a way how to break out of this thing just as his crew is kind of escaping and at the same time zero the droid that was left on the ship has discovered baby yoda and actually we didn't even mention this the whole crew discovered baby yoda oh my god i can't believe we skipped he

skipped over this bill burr fucking drops that kid he drops our boy i i'll tell you bob i don't i've never been in the office when Bill's in the office. I know he keeps coming in for, you know, he said some podcasts. Obviously, he's done Rough and Rowdy with the guys. I was ready to challenge Bill Burr to Rough and Rowdy. Bill, it's a fucking – first of all, he thinks it's a pet. What kind of a pet owner are you, Bill? You're just going to drop your fucking pet on the ground? It's the cutest pet in the whole wide fucking world and you're just going to drop it on the ground? We have had too much goddamn Baby Yoda,

you know, either like threats of violence, potential violence, or in this case, actual violence. My heart can't take it. I can't, it can't take it. Did they not read the blog from last year? I smoked too much weed once. I had a heart attack. I thought I was having a heart attack.

I told Trent, call 911. My heart can't take Baby Yoda being dropped on the floor. Now that being said, sort of Zero's fault for not giving a countdown, coming out of hyperspace. Bananas move, not making sure everyone's in their seatbelts. At the same time, Bill was like, he was doing that thing where he's like, oh, I'm gonna drop it. I'm gonna

drop, oh, I might drop. Like, Bill. Bill. Please. Read the hashtag! It's hashtag protect baby yo. God damn it, Bill. Do you not get fucking Twitter out there? So they discover baby yo. Zero discovers a message from Grief Karga on his ship that kind of signals him that baby yo is a precious piece of cargo,

more than they thought, more than just a quote-unquote pet. The Mandalorian finds a way how to break out of the cell. Really cool. He rips the arm off one of the droids. Oil spills everywhere. It's kind of like robot blood. I always love when they do something like that. And even, it was cool, a droid shot into the cell, and it, like, the

bullet bounced off the walls a trillion times. Seeing more of that in Star Wars, I'll always accept. Another thing we skipped, while they were trying to break this Twi'lek out of the cell, they have to go into the control room of the New Republic ship there's only one guy in there he's wearing the classic rebel alliance kind of uh aerodynamic bicycle helmets nerd shit it's nerd shit it's such nerd shit and bill burke calls him out on it he calls him egghead which is like you're not you can't

come back from that if you're in the new republic. This guy is actually the voice of Anakin Skywalker in the cartoons. So Dave Filoni probably hooked him up with a little role. I think they should do more of that. It's something that, if you don't know, it doesn't really matter. He had a random kind of meaningless role in this episode. But if you do know, it is a cool fact for any Star Wars fans out there. So shout out. What's his name?

Let me get it. Matt Lanter, his name is. And he's Anakin Skywalker in the Clone Wars and Rebels. And he has this homing beacon, this beacon device where they're treating it almost like a grenade. They all get into that Reservoir Dogs style standoff

and they're like, don't press that fucking button! Because if he presses the button, the New Republic will come in and basically send out a distress signal. So after the Mandalorian breaks out, he goes back into that room, back into the control room, and he looks at the Lucius Fox-type setup of all

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He shuts down a bunch of the doors in this prisoner transport. We think he kills the devil guy at first with his you know door slicing trick that he seems to fucking love he's highly experienced in slicing motherfuckers up with doors the first one when he drops it on him i was like oh that was sick and then he lifts the door up and i was fucking i was rucker park i was like started throwing stuff at the wall my wife's, stop making so much noise. And then he hits him with the other door and I was just beside myself. That was delightful. That was one of the kind of fun tricks that you could see in a movie, but it was in the Star Wars land, which you don't always see.

They don't play it as fun in Star Wars sometimes. So I like that. That was awesome. And he eventually traps Bill Burr's character, Mayfeld, in this corridor. And all the lights go out. A red glowing light comes over it. And there's a strobe light going on and off, on and off, on and off. It's huge alien vibes. And the Mandalorian you slowly see get closer and closer and closer.

And Bill Burr just has this like, oh no. And he's right behind him. It was so well done. The coolest shot of the episode by far. Reminded me a lot of a shot, not only from Alien, but there's a shot from The Dark Knight where he's in that nightclub and he's just slowly but surely getting closer and closer to, I think it was those Russian mafia members.

And I love that they didn't do it the way i expected them to where he gets closer closer closer then he's right behind him and he grabs him they did like a turn where he he got behind him oh flawless execution yep like i when i was like i said when with the hellboy stuff i was the rucker park but with this one it was a slow ball i was like oh whoa and i guess it was a for another reference it was almost like the vince mcmahon gif where i was like oh my god they're doing and then with the turn that was and that's when i i decided that like the mandalorian can be a different kind of show and i'm gonna be all right with it now they're not

gonna be able to pull tricks like that every episode. It's just not going to be possible. I imagine the director, who that is and who shoots it, it's going to be different. But that kind of stuff, I just – like I found that to be delightful, and I'm not usually someone who is into that kind of stuff. But when it comes out, I love it. It's just I'm a fucking – I'm an idiot watching a TV show that's well above my head usually. So I love that part. I loved it. That was awesome. He winds up trapping the entire crew in this cell.

He doesn't kill him. They make a big point of that in this episode, that he could kill them, but he didn't. Another twist. Yes. I thought they were all dead until you see them. So did I. The Twi'lek was even giving us a little foreshadowing early on

when you go back and look at the episode now. She was saying, you know, what about on such and such planet? You enjoyed what you were doing there. And he was like, I was only doing a job. They're showing that this is, he's a human character who doesn't enjoy killing. Maybe he had a dark past where he did, but right now, the Mandalorian, even in the last episode with that dog fight that it opened with,

he was like, I'm going to let you live. He's not into killing. He's kind of got aman thing going about him there yeah he's not about he's not about taking his mask off and he's not about killing nothing wrong with that i actually that kind of makes it more fun is i'm sorry i just was thinking mando with that stupid fucking flame it's almost like his last resort lasers and shit every time i think about that flame he's like it's like man is like fuck i need to do something right now let's see it it's like does he have to refill it with gas or like it it would be even funnier if it was

like hairspray it wasn't even like a like flammable like regular material liquid it was like a shitty hairspray or something you know he goes back to that welder or whatever and she's like do you want me to replace this with those those whispering birds or whatever they were and he's like no no no the flame's gonna work eventually she's like no mando mando you gotta give up the flame man he's using the flame again what the fuck the third time i had a refill you this week you asshole people that go on missions with him are like man he's he's a good dude we enjoy his company but he's got this weird flame thing he insists on using it and it never works out he says it's gonna work one day is there a chance mando's like a teenager because like i mean every teenage boy was obsessed with fire

were you obsessed with fire do you have a fire phase no i never had a fire phase that's too much of a pussy man well me fire and get out of here i had a very brief fire face because i had like kids who were like three or four years older than me in the neighborhood. They're like the bad boys. And they would like, you know, white fire,

like not huge bonfires, but they lay little things on fire. And one day I had a little, I had some like little things I was letting leaves on fire and a couple of things caught. And I had where the heart sunk. Your, your eyes tell the story.

Oh my God. I thought I was about to light my house on fire. And it was looking back. It was probably three inches long, the fire, but i thought i was about to light my house on fire and it was looking back it was probably three inches long the fire but i thought it was about to catch and that's when i got out of my fire phase mando needs to get out of his fucking fire phase get out of your fire using that goddamn blow george or he needs to use it awesomely like tap it and then we get like a fucking huge flame while this was all going on zero back on the ship was chasing down Baby-O. He eventually kind of corners him.

Baby-O puts one hand up, kind of like he was going to do a Jedi mind trick or something, focuses in, and Zero explodes. I popped so hard for this. I was like, oh, Baby-O, he did it, he did it. And then Zero falls, and you see the Mandalorian behind him, who actually just shot him. Kind of another, it was, as George would say, it's like poetry. It rhymes.

It was like that scene where we think Baby Yoda gets shot, but Cara Dune is behind him. We're just seeing a bunch of things where we get that kind of scenario. Very funny scene, very cute scene. Baby Yoda, it was probably Baby Yoda's cutest moment of the entire thing, because he looks at his hand like,

oh my God, did I just do that that i thought he had fuck you force powers i was like i didn't know baby yoda could just fuck people up with the force and again that that was another a nice sleight of hand misdirection that they've they've kind of sprinkled in throughout the the series so far so he finally goes back to that rick rubin uh repair, whatever it was. He gets his reward. He says, no questions asked on your crew. That was the rules. And as he leaves, another backstab was attempted. It was attempted and failed, though,

because the Mandalorian, like a fucking G, put the tracking beacon on the prisoner and sent the New Republic straight to that Rick Rubin garage shop. The New Republic comes in with three X-Wings. All three X-Wing pilots were directors of the Mandalorian. We had Dave Filoni in one of them. We had Rick Fomuida

Rick Fomuida hope I'm saying that right, as another one. And Deborah Chow as the third. Another nice thing. It would be kind of cool if they eventually brought all of the Mandalorian directors in as X-Wing pilots, if that is like their designated thing. Hey, bring in even like get JJ in one of them. Like I'm sure you could just film that in front of a green screen or something.

Get fucking George Lucas in one of them. I don't know. Do it. That would be sick. It is always jarring that they stick with the 70s vibe with the X-Wings, and I'm fine with that. I love that. I love that. I brought that up on our video recap because it was the 70s X-Wing entirely.

It did not look like Poe Dameron's cockpit view at all. Yeah, so I dug that, and again, it matches up with, I guess at that point it's 83 to 80, I guess 85 we'll say at this point, timeline or whatever. Very cool. Very cool stuff. I loved this episode. This was up there with my favorites. I still think my favorite was probably Chapter 3, the one where he goes in and he gives Baby Yoda in, but then he goes in John Wick style and fucking takes him, gets the Mandalorians to save him at the end. I still think that's my favorite.

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My excitement is through the fucking roof. I could not be more excited. What's your excitement level at right now? 1 to 10. My excitement level is at a 6.5. I haven't watched the last trailer. I didn't

watch it. I saw it. I was going to ask that because the last trailer definitely reveals more than any of the other trailers did, and I don't want to reveal it for you. I think if you're going in blind, go in blind. But the last trailer might have made me more excited than anything because what they do reveal is shocking, and the way they reveal it's's cool the aesthetic of the entire trailer is cool oh i'm so i'm an 11 i'm an 11 out of 10 and if you're listening to this on monday i will say this and this is going to make some of the my mom's basement listeners hate me but i will be seeing it tuesday morning so i'm gonna have i'm gonna have the whole week where i'm gonna have to stay silent i remember when the lights cat, it was Lights out of Barcelona guys, Ken Jack and Jeff D. Lowe and Cole, he saw Endgame,

and they came back and they just had these little grins on their face and they couldn't, there was literally, it was as if the words were in their mouth and they were crawling around, you could see words trying to leave their mouth. They just wanted to talk about it and i'm gonna be in the office on wednesday that's what i'll be in this week and i can just tell like we're gonna have a hard time you're gonna just have it sitting there i think i'll be good i think i'll be good because i've done this before i was able to see the last jedi a few days early and this is i don't take this i don't take this lightly i'm not jaded to this this is the number one perk through barstool i'm

asked that all the time what's the coolest thing you the number one perk through barstool i'm asked that all the time what's the coolest thing you get to do because of barstool what's this what's that it's seeing star wars early it's undoubtedly the best perk and it's just there's something about it it's a it's amazing getting to see it early because with someone like in my position your position people don't realize this people will try to spoil it for us people will reach out to us there will always be that one rotten apple who will try to DM you detailed spoilers of the entire thing. If you get to see it early, you basically just get to remove that fear from your mind, and that reassurance is amazing, especially for something like Star Wars. And then I'm going back to Jersey on opening night because, come on, Star Wars is a family affair. Got to see it with the big bro.

See that, and that was my, and for the record, I had someone try to spoil Avengers Endgame for me, but luckily I was able to get Feidelberg's ticket the Tuesday before the release because he was away that day. So I got to see it early. Didn't tell anyone because I wanted to keep it on low. I didn't want to have any spoilers

or even be tempted to say anything. And someone, as I was walking into what my original movie was on Friday, someone tweeted the big spoiler from Endgame at me. And I just thought, A, you fucked up because I already saw it. And B, you are the worst fucking person in the world. Yeah, just what an asshole. What an asshole. What an asshole. But I actually texted my brother who I'm going to see Rise of Skywalker with, two weeks ago.

And I said, I can't believe the Skywalker saga is just ending in two weeks. And it doesn't even feel like it to me, which is partially because of The Last Jedi. But it's kind of like, I don't know. Actually, I think it's mostly because of The Last Jedi, if I'm being honest. I was going to say, for me, it definitely feels like it's ending. I definitely get the vibe that it's mostly because of The Last Jedi, if I'm being honest. I was going to say, for me, it definitely feels like it's ending. I definitely get the vibe that it's happening. But at the same point, like, again, you go back to the prequels and all this. It's like, I just want them just to, like, stick the landing.

It's not going to be a 10, but I just want them to not end up hurt or, you know, I want them to have a chance for the bronze. Here's another question. What do you think the most excited you've ever been for star wars was in your entire life uh phantom menace yeah well i i got into star wars a little later because of my younger brother actually so probably special edition re-releases or even before that oh that that's exactly what it was he was always into them i know i would watch two minutes of it here and there and i was like i'm just not a star wars guy never hated it but i was like it's just not my cup of tea. I was always an RPG guy.

I always liked fantasy, space stuff. I had no reason not to like Star Wars. I just never got into it. I guess my parents – I didn't have an older brother to get me into it, and then he got into it. I decided to watch one of the movies. We went to a special edition, and I was like, oh, that's why these things are so fucking big and this is what i'll spend the rest of my life talking about so yeah exactly so then it's like i'm going through all the special editions and i'm getting and i'm like falling in love with the series and then at

that point the internet is starting to cook so i'm on the internet i'm reading all the stuff i'm becoming this diehard i'm basically getting a crash course in star wars and then it's like and there's a new star wars coming up oh my god this is going to be perfect it's going to be the greatest thing ever and then the phantom menace and again like that's why that came out what episode one then episode two and i'm just kind of like all right well i mean the special editions are awesome we're gonna keep it it was like it just like they killed the horse they beat the dead horse they murdered it revenge of the sith was better than the other two and it was you know like there were definite It was like they killed the horse. They beat the dead horse. They murdered it. Revenge of the Sith was better than the other two, and it was – there were definite moments, and then that was it, which by the way, we never talked about this on the podcast.

What about the kid that got to see Rise of Skywalker early because he – it was like the real-life version of – Fanboys. Fanboys, yeah, fanboys. Yeah, he had a terminal illness, and it was his last wish to see The Rise of Skywalker, and they granted his wish. They showed it to him. He was the first person he saw before the cast even. Really? Yeah. So he did get to see it.

I mean, Disney is so fucking great with stuff like that. And it's funny you say the most excited for Star Wars you ever were was before The Phantom Menace because of the long layoff. For me, no doubt about it was before The Force Awakens because that was, I felt like, the first time in my life where I was not, like, literally a child, a six- or seven-year-old kid, where I was like, oh, my God, we're getting new Star Wars. I was under the impression we were getting no Star Wars ever. I remember reading the announcement that Disney had purchased Lucasfilm and was announcing a new trilogy right after Hurricane Sandy.

So, like, I was in the worst mood, the worst lows of lows. Read, oh my God, we're getting new Star Wars. Looked forward to it for years, for years, for years. I was working on the border next to a mall during the whole hype process. That's September, October, November. And I remember I would always just every break i would get go to the mall and i would go to like either the movie theater and look to see if they had any new standees or new posters or i would go to the lego store to see if they had any new sets or i

would go to you know hot topic to see if they had any new shirts and then it was just a home run for me i loved the last jedi so much and i did think it's funny like you and your brother star wars such a family thing me and my brother fucking it's funny, like, you and your brother, Star Wars is such a family thing. Me and my brother fucking loved The Last Jedi together. You and your brother hate The Last Jedi together. Like, it's so, it's in our blood. It's in our metachlorians, if you will. And I have Sienna, too.

You know, Sienna got into Star Wars. Yeah, she don't even like The Last Jedi. She left five minutes in. It was too scary. I said, all right, I'm going to give second shot and she was like i'm at that once pin once uh poe was fucking having stand-up night at the apollo she was like get the sandman out and get the guy to create and get him the fuck out of here i have to ask you a quick question completely off completely random let's hear it as as a as a big man obviously it's an achilles heel for me most things but is it as hard to work at a place like on the border that has those incredible tortilla

chips like i i am like if i go to if i'm if i was going to go out for like mexican i'd be like sure and the entire trip there i'm just thinking like i'm going to eat three baskets full so that was my job i was a chipper now i was hired as a busboy, right? And on my first night, because all my friends worked there. They were bartenders or waiters. They were all a little older than me. They got me the job. It was my first job.

And I was hired as a busboy. You know, bus the tables. Everyone knows what this is. You clean the dishes. You carry chips out sometimes. You carry big trays out. On my first night, they gave me one of those massive, massive trays of food. I brought it out thinking I was doing it the right way.

As soon as I took one glass off, the entire gravity of that thing shifted. Everything dropped. I'm talking tortillas. I'm talking fajitas. I'm talking scorching hot plates. I'm talking steaks. I'm talking burritos. Everything.

Plates shattered, everything. Oh, the sizzling fajitas, that is. The sizzling fajitas dropped. I mean, I was traumatized. I go storming to the back, and I told my manager, you know me, I'm this big ball of anxiety. I tell the manager on staff, I was like, listen, I can never do that again. And they were like, what?

I was like, my arms are too tiny. I can't hold the tray. It's too big. They're like pipe cleaners. Look at them. Clem, I swear to God, I never carried a tray again. I was, from that day on, exclusively the chipper. I would wear an earpiece.

They would be like, Robbie, two at table 54. And if two people meant two things of salsa, one tray of chips, you doubled that. You give them two trays of chips, four things of salsa. You just keep moving, moving on. I worked there for a few months. And every time I pass on the border, every time I get a whiff of that on the border salsa, I think of The Force Awakens, I swear to God, I swear to God something about it. Like even there's an album called Mutual Friends by a band called Boy. And it was the album that I used to listen on the way to and from work every day. I listen to that album now, I think, of The Force Awakens. It's

weird how things can put you back in that mindset, but yeah, that's the story of me at On The Border. Yeah, that's Tupac's album before. Even all eyes on me, I associate with Madden because I would just play Madden on loop, and I would just play that CD on loop, and that's all I would just play Madden on loop and I would just play that CD on loop and that's all I would do for like a year straight. Another question for you. What has intrigued you the most about the Rise of Skywalker so far from marketing from trailers? What have you seen where you're like,

all right, I'm fucking in on that. Are you excited about the Emperor? Are you not excited about the Emperor? I know some people are saying it nullifies the sacrifice of Vader, all that kind of stuff. How do you feel about that? I'm interested to see how they're going to pull it off i'm going to go again i'm going to go with an open mind and i'm going to see i'm interested

to see how they pull it off i don't want it to be bad like part of me is like i don't want it to be bad i don't want it to be corny i don't want to be poorly executed and at the same point like if it is i'm just going to say ah well you know I'm kind of going into this movie with lowered expectations as it is. But again, I'm really torn. I almost wish I didn't know he was in it, but I don't know how you could really get – I feel like if you didn't know he was in it and then he's in it and it's poorly executed, it could be a disaster for the movie. Yes, I'm with you. If they would have kept it a secret and it would have been we're there on opening night, we fucking hear that laugh or something, it would have been unreal.

That being said, I do think it's added so much to the hype of this movie. Knowing that he's in it and having that like, oh fuck, the big bad is back. Like we know it's connecting all three trilogies. We just saw the culmination of something amazing with the MCU with this massive, amazing villain Thanos. How can you match that level of excitement? Bring back fucking Sheev. Bring back the Emperor. Bring back Palpatine.

The moment at Star Wars Celebration where we heard the laugh and then Ian McDermott was on stage. One of the greatest moments of my life. One of the greatest. You know, people always say if you could go to any sporting event, what would you go to?

I was in that arena when Ian McDermott appeared on the stage like the goddamn Undertaker. That's the sporting event that you want to go to the the trailer watch that that you that's what you compare it to because i was with you obviously at the the one for uh for was it force awake yeah it was for no that was for last jedi last jedi yeah it's all i will say that laugh if it hadn't come out in the trailer it might have been like like imagine if they had the avengers assemble line in the trailer for fucking like you didn't know that i will say this though i think the emperor is going to be a huge part of this movie like i think he's going

to be like in this movie a ton and that's why they're like all right fuck it we're going to put him in i'm expecting to see the emperor in like the first 20 minutes of the movie yeah and i'm fine with that and if the emperor is going to clean up some of the messes where you could say it was snoke or any other part and again do you want snoke maybe explained more through the emperor do you want uh questions that maybe we got our expectations subverted as ryan johnson put it do you want some of that stuff to be not retconned but maybe they could figure out a way to meet in the middle? I'd like Snoke to have meant something in the end, and I don't think they should just – I don't need them to really butcher it again. I'm probably never going to like The Last Jedi.

So in the end, it's really not going to make that much of a difference for me. Do you think there are things they could do in this movie to make you like that movie more? I guess. you like that movie more i guess like i mean probably like again going back to watchman just because i'm like i'm in love with the show i didn't really love the first two episodes or so i imagine if i go back now i'm gonna be like holy shit it was all right there it's just i feel like that was all done with one direct one direct you know one vision of lindelof's vision he just went through where this was you know went from jJ. Then that went to Rian Johnson. Now it's going back to J.J.

I just wish J.J. just did all three films. I just wish he did all three films. It would have just been nice and consistent even though I know that wasn't how the original trilogy worked and it could have worked. People love The Last Jedi. Those people like – this is perfect for them. I want the emperor – if he's there to fix mistakes. This is the thing though i'm not even gonna get upset about the emperor if he's back because you actually just kind of

sold me on it by what you said he's the only guy that's basically been there since episode one you know he'll be the only is there anyone else who's been there since episode one i mean obviously wasn't r2 and three po you count but they're droids which is you know different obviously and they've been all they've been in all of them. Like having the Emperor gone for the last two, I feel like it even builds. Like, oh my god, it's more of a he's back. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So yeah, I'm excited for the Emperor.

I don't want to put too much on his plate, but I want him to deliver, man. Because I kind of love the idea of this guy being and you know there's then there's all the different stuff that we wanted in maybe revenge of the sith that people didn't get or with you know any plagiarist stuff and stuff like that so he could be if he's just that dude that just has been the center of this all which i'm still convinced i'm still still sticking to my theory that me, you, and Ken Jack had, that the Rise of Skywalker is making the Force a gray object. Instead of being white or black with the light or the dark, it's all about being gray in the Rise of Skywalker,

which Anakin Skywalker was going to bring balance to the Force, and that's what Skywalker is. It's balance, and that's what the Force should be all about. And I still love that theory. I think that theory is fucking dope, and if that were to come to fruition fruition in the movie i would be thrilled for me the lightsaber fight we keep seeing between ray and kylo ren on the you know the debris of the death star looks amazing that's one of the things that excites me the most about this movie uh another

thing the space battle we keep seeing that looks like it's going to be the biggest space battle we've ever seen in Star Wars. I'm stoked about that, and the Emperor, I'm over the moon about it. I'm so happy that they're bringing him back. I never thought I wanted this. I wasn't watching The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi going, alright, they need Palpatine, they need Palpatine. But once

they've announced he's back, I love the story now that I hope they go with, he was pulling the strings all along. I think it would be cool if he were pulling the strings from a distance and this was all some part of a grand plan. We've seen in the Battlefront 2 campaign even that he had contingency plans for if the Empire fell, if this happened, if that happened. So it makes sense in canon, even maybe before they knew they were going to bring him back. Now that being said,

JJ says that they were talking about bringing him back in the final film since they started on the script for The Force Awakens. If that's true, amazing that they've, you know, gotten to this point where they could actually do it. You gotta tip your,

the guy who organized Order 66, that guy has fucking, he has fucking like a bunch of wild draw four Uno cards in his hand. That motherfucker knows what he's doing. Bro, you talk Bill Belichick has some shit in his back pocket. The emperor being able to still hang around at this point. Insane. Oh, he has his back pockets.

He has his front pockets. He just has like seven back pockets and he's just throwing fucking aces. So I – that's why I can't subscribe to like – he got Anakin to flip. He fucking pulled off order 66. Um, I mean, obviously everything kind of went to shit with the second death star, but Hey, maybe this is how he has foreseen it. And in Dr. Manhattan shit, he knew it was coming.

He knew this was the, he's in the end game now. Fucking we'll just merge all this shit together. I don't care. Maybe that's true. This is like the Patton Oswald, you know,, you know, his Parks and Rec filibuster when he's like, and then Chewbacca comes in with the Infinity Gauntlet. Another thing about The Emperor, I'm just so excited to see Ian McDermott acting opposite Adam Driver and Daisy Ridley. Ian McDermott, another one of the shining parts of the prequels.

Yes, he's got some moments in it where you're like, oh my god, he's really fucking going for it there. Unlimited power! But I think he's going to be awesome. Seeing more Emperor moments. Like, he's the fucking Emperor. Like, getting more quotes from the Emperor. Getting more memes from the Emperor. That's all part of it, too. That'll be cool. I hope we see some fucking

lightning out of his hands. I'm sure we will. If we don't, I will be disappointed. I also think we haven't seen him for a very specific reason i think he's gonna look more fucked up and scary than he ever has obviously 35 years to 40 years after return of the jedi i think his face is gonna be maybe even more fucked up than snokes yeah you turn into a fucking like blue ghost after your fucking protege throws you down a well of fucking dark death star like shaft or whatever the fuck it was and then you have all the evilness plus you're just old there could be some real scary some scary shit with the emperor so i like

that i i will say the one thing that i didn't love about this trilogy i wish we didn't maybe go with it basically feels like a new empire like the first the first trilogy there it wasn't it was kind of like there was you didn't really know who the enemy was it was a lot of misdirection it was i mean a lot of like taxation trade federation bullshit and then you had the clones coming in and the the droids i would have liked it if it was a in this in this version it wasn't an empire however kind of going back though if the emperor is kind of the guy in charge behind all this it makes sense that it would be in his vision so i'm i'm down with that i though, if the emperor is kind of the guy in charge behind all this, it makes sense that it would be in his vision. So I'm down with that.

I can be down with it. The emperor is basically your fucking eraser, Disney. It's a fucking eraser to fucking clean up all the smudges around the plot and stuff that people hate, and hopefully it's going to be a good movie. Do you want to know how he survived? Is that something you're very like – how the hell did he survive that fall? Because I've been thinking about this a lot obviously. he survived is that something you're very like how the hell did he survive that fall because i i've been thinking about this a lot obviously and i was like you know what i don't think i care like if if it's explained in the movie where he's like and i use my dark forces to cheat death and

get on a shuttle before the death star blew up i'd be like all right cool i accept that that's fine yeah i mean he could probably say i, I did it. I turned into a fucking flying ghost myself and I killed that bitch. He teleported or something. I don't fucking know. Yeah, I killed that bitch boy Vader as I was going up. Blah, blah, blah. He's dead, motherfucker. His whole son had to burn him.

He was just smothering him. He was shoving a pillow over his face as Luke was talking to him. So, yeah, I mean, it's kind of like Poochie. Like, Poochie went to his home planet and died on the way there. Yeah, Star Wars, Darth Maul survived being cut in half and falling down a shaft. I don't fucking know. Nobody dies in Star Wars.

Nobody dies in Star Wars. That's a hashtag right there. You got to burn the body, like Vader style. We've each written down the top five things, big or small, that we'd like to see in The Rise of Skywalker. I don't even know if mine are really ordered. They kind of are, but they range from big things to small things to broad things to whatever. We could go back and forth on our list like we did last week with our lightsaber fight.

My number five, number one, however you want to look at it, a Lando Calrissian nine nub reunion. I would love to see these guys get back in the flesh we've seen uh we've seen lando calrissian on a resistance base you would have to imagine nine nub is there he's been with the resistance the whole time still if we could get some kind of hug between them oh my god that would warm my heart another guy that we haven't mentioned billy d's back he's one of the things that excites me the most about this movie. Seeing Lando in the Millennium Falcon again. Like, that's going to be awesome. Sweet ass Lando.

My first one just says, Lobot, Lobot, Lobot. Give me Lobot. I don't know if we're going to get both of them. Is that motherfucker alive? I don't know, man. Why not? That thing has to keep his ass alive, that little thing behind his. I just want to see, and I want to see him wake up.

I just want to see him wake up. We're like, oh, Lobot's still alive. And then they cut to the next scene. I don't need to hear him talk or walk around or commit a coup. I just need to know Lobot is somewhere, has his boy Lando's back. That's all that matters to me. So if we can get one of those reunions, I'll be fine with it, and this is coming from someone – like that's the thing. I don't want like the same regurgitated stuff outside of the Skywalker saga, but the Skywalker saga is going to just be the same linear story.

Oh, yeah. I'm fine with seeing some familiar faces. Give us the fan service here. This is the place to do it. I think, especially with this being the quote unquote end game version of it. So, uh, some information here from Wookieepedia on Lobot.

A plus fucking name, by the way, it's the greatest Wikipedia, like offshot in the world, Wookieepedia. And if you're a Star Wars fan, it's an amazing resource because they legit have answers to everything you could ever question.

Following the Empire's defeat at the Battle of Endor, Imperial Governor Ubrich Aldehard tightened his grip on the Anakt sector, home to Bespin, forming the Iron Blockade. Receiving support from the New Republic, Lobot then fought to liberate his homeworld. So that's the last we've heard of Lobot in canon. Went, liberated his homeworld. Fucking great, dude. We love Lobot. Lobot the Liberator, baby! Oh, shit, that's a great name.

Lobot the Liberator. My number four? I just wrote prequel love. I would like to see, just give us some shouts to the prequels. Name some planets. Let's see some droids from the prequels. Let bygones be bygones. Treat it like Steve Bartman.

We all love the prequels for how bad they are, for how horrendously unwatchable they are. I would just love to see some prequel of even, geez, if you could bring in a character from one of the cartoon series, that would be dope. If you could just have someone from Rebels or someone from Clone Wars, it doesn't have to be a huge thing. They could just show up at the end in the last battle.

I know the ship from Rebels is in the last battle, but actually seeing a character, I think that would be cool. Or you just go through with the Darth Jar Jar thing. That was definitely very true, no doubt about it, and we can kind of just go from there. Funny enough, we did not plan this out. My number two is if you don't have to make it a big part of it. But if you're going to release the Mandalorian on Wednesday, give me something on that Wednesday episode.

That's going to it does it. It could just be a very subtle reference that kind of ties into this whole thing that we can then offshoot into the future. Whether it's the Mandalorian or future Star Wars wars i don't need baby yoda in the fucking i don't need the mandalorian as a character in the in the rise of skywalker but something in that or even going back to our lando lando's in that falcon we now know about the relationship he had with the draw you know his his girl joined the falcon maybe a little bit of like a shout out there because i mean solo i believe we're not we're both on the same page about solo yeah yeah we're both very meh on solo i think that there's some great aspects of it there's some really eye roll aspects of it at the end of the

day didn't really need to get made but what are you yeah is what it is number three for me more force ghosts i want to see a ton of force ghosts in this movie, or at least have them incorporated in some way. I was thinking about this because in the trailer we don't see any. We just hear, Luke and Leia, the Force will be with you always. If we get to hear a bunch of people, if we get to see a bunch of people, I would love Ewan McGregor, fucking Hayden Christensen, Samuel L. Jackson, a little Mace Windu action a little Yoda action a little Frank Oz Luke Skywalker obviously Luke is the one that I really like I want to see

Luke as a force ghost I want to I want to have him give Rey the same speech that Obi-Wan gives him in uh in Empire Strikes Back you know something like that like he does in Return of the Jedi I love force ghosts i would love to see more of them that's fine okay because i actually was wondering i said i wonder if there's gonna be force ghosts in this when i then wrote please do not be a return of the jedi reboot kind of movie because the biggest you know criticism of the force awakens was basically that jj took a new hope kind of just you know worked it around put some Awakens was basically that J.J. took A New Hope, kind of just, you know, worked it around, put some new

paint on it, a couple new flashy lights, and was like, here is your new Star Wars trilogy. And I understand, and I understand both sides of the equation. I'm not saying it's right, I'm not saying it's wrong. It is what, I mean, we can't, you can't say like, it doesn't basically kind of just take the first movie. I mean, Starkiller is the Death Star, a super version,

and a lot of the different beats all that kind of stuff all right just if you and if there's gonna be force goes i'm fine with it if you're gonna do force goes you can't then have a plucky planet full of little furry three-foot guys that are fighting the against you know the what's the i can't always forget what's the empire's name now the uh the first order the first order you can't have them taking down atats with logs and shit and c3po is a guy like do not go down that route again jj i mean i know your your task was saving a franchise that half the fan base loves half the fan base hates now but like and i'm i'm actually cool with force ghosts i was because i was thinking about it too i didn't know

if it would be something that they would actually bring back but it has like pick and choose your spot and i would have written this down in my things i wanted to see but i didn't because they put it in the behind the scenes reel we already know ewoks will be back because warwick davis was already confirmed reprising his role as wicked the ewok oh i can't wait to see those little furry fuckers well they're gonna they're going back there right because the death star they're they're fighting on the i i think they're they're calling it a different name i think it's gotta be endor even if it's not the forest moon of endor what if it's just endor what if it's the actual planet itself oh i think it could be something like that my next one and this one is i'll say probably the most important to me if if one of these things

happens or i guess if one of these things doesn't happen, I'm going to be very upset with this movie, legitimately. The Millennium Falcon better survive. Chewbacca better survive. Those things need to happen for me to have a good time at The Rise of Skywalker. If one of those things doesn't happen, I might never leave that theater. I might just die in my seat in the theater. We already went through a very painful loss in The Force Awakens, and I don't know if we'll ever recover from that very painful loss.

I am with you on the Millennium Falcon, who is my second favorite character in the history of Star Wars, R2-D2, dies, my hatred of Last Jedi will seem like it would 100 percent, two thumbs up, all fucking fresh tomatoes, fresh off the fucking vine review for what I will think of this movie. Every other part of this movie can hit all its notes. If that fucker R2, that light goes off on that young man, am going to that young man furious um my uh my my next thing was this was a little tongue-in-cheek the the scroll oh yeah that says the rise of skywalker we now wake up from the dream that was known as the last come on bullshit nevershit. Never happened. Everything you saw, blah, blah, blah. Fuck Rian Johnson. Go watch Ozymandias.

That was a nice episode, but fuck that bitch. No, I'm just kidding. No Phasma. Just get her out of here. All right, yeah. If you're going to see Phasma, okay, I won't say no Phasma. Phasma either murders motherfuckers and is the badass person I've been waiting for. I don't want to see her fail again.

I cannot take her failing three fucking movies in a row. I'm going to lose my mind if Phasma comes in, bumbles her way through like prison, getting prisoners, and then just gets like thrown in another garbage chute. Cannot do it. Don't want to see any Phasma unless she's just a badass motherfucker. I don't think we're going to get Phasma, especially because we now have the sith troopers that will be their way of selling merch in this one and i also don't expect the sith troopers to be these captain phasma or boba fett whatever you want type thing where they're so badass and so awesome i think they're probably just gonna be pretty standard and they're there to sell merch that's what they are i wouldn't get your hopes up about the sith troopers if you're

out there my last should have been so goddamn cool, man. That was a cool-ass armor. Brianna Tarth is an awesome actress. Yeah. Can you at least admit that they dropped the ball with Phasma? Yeah. They definitely could have done more with her. They definitely could have, I don't know.

I don't know what you could have done with her to make her better. Maybe have her there in the meeting scenes between Hux and Kylo. Maybe she's the peacekeeper. Maybe she's the, why the hell are you little boys fighting? Like, we had a war to win. Maybe she's a little more hardened, a little more badass. Phasma definitely could have been better. Throw a blowtorch on it. Throw some fucking Mandalorian fire.

That's what Mandalorian said right now. My final one here, and this might upset some people, because I tweeted a take very similar to this earlier in the week, and a bunch of people were upset by this, but it's a take that I've had since The Force Awakens, since I left that theater, and I'm sticking with it. That bitch boy Kylo Ren better fucking die in this movie. I know people want the Ben-demption, they're calling it,

the Ben-demption, Ben Solo. I'm okay with that. If you want to do redemption, I understand Star Wars, it's poetry, it rhymes. I understand these are stories about hope, these are stories about redemption, these are stories about seeing the light in someone, even if they're the darkest person in the world. And they obviously teased a lot of that in The Last Jedi. Rey wanted him to join her, he wanted Rey to join him. It was a big back and forth. They teased a lot of that in The Last Jedi. Rey wanted him to join her. He wanted Rey to join him. It was a big back and forth. They teased a lot of it.

If you do that, Kylo Ren has to die. You can't just have him make a good decision at the end of this movie and then be like, yeah, now he's gonna roam the galaxy freely. Uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh. Motherfucker killed Han Solo. Motherfucker was a huge part in the destruction

of the Hosnian system. He destroyed, like, five planets. That's mass genocide, brother. You need to die. When you throw the old G word out there, I feel kind of bad trying to not defend my guy, Kylo. Thing is, when you bring up Han Solo, I'm like, you killed Han Solo? You killed your father? Bro, you can't live if you killed Han Solo.

And also, like, Rey watched it happen. I understand Rey is this beacon of light, and she does see the light in Kylo Ren. At the same time, like, do you want to, like, happily live the rest of your life with this Kylo Ren guy? And by the way, another thing, people are, you know, teasing the romance in this. Who will Rey go with?

Will she go with Finn? Will she go with Poe? Will she go with Kylo? Will she go with nobody? I think if there's any romance in this movie, which it's been teased. JJ's like, this is a very romantic movie. I think it is Rey and Kylo. I think that there's any romance in this movie, which it's been teased, JJ's like, this is a very romantic movie. I think it is Rey and Kylo.

I think that's the connection to make. I think that's the connection to do. I don't know if people will be upset by that. I'm not a Reylo, if you will. I'm not a guy that's like, I ship them. If you're going to do a romance, though, I think that's the most interesting route to take. Is Reylo a real thing? Oh, Clem.

Reylo's a huge thing thing it's a great name i i have to give them credit for that that's a great name but that it's gonna be tough all right now if if if kylo dies which i'm i'm kind of like again i think of han solo dying and again han solo like the reason i love empire is because I love Han Solo. But watching him die hurts. But do you think we get a Kylo Force ghost if he dies? I wouldn't hate that. A Ben Solo, the way Anakin Skywalker appears instead of Darth Vader at the end? Exactly.

I wouldn't hate that at all. Are we going to get a Leia Force ghost? I would love that. I think a Leia Force ghost would actually be i i do what we're gonna do a death pool i hate to say it i do think they're gonna have to give leia a death in this movie i think they'll probably give her a nice death maybe a peaceful death i think that'd be the way to do it but we know they just don't have a lot of footage to work with could they maybe have leia holding her little baby ben and those are the force ghosts because ben that would be weird

i'm out on that that's weird i'm out on baby ghosts kind of like with cat with talking about kylo do not give me any more of that fucking stupid story where he woke up because that was one of the things i despised about the last jedi was like actually this is what happened no actually you didn't like that i really did like that i love that so we'll just leave it that all right my last thing my my fifth thing give me a darth vader-esque rogue one scene from somebody the emperor kylo let's see some death bring if you want to bring phasma back and she fucking some real deal someone with you know i guess the force you need a force person to really make it pop the emperor just killing mother whoever this death pool three of them should be killed by the emperor well i forgot to write this down actually in my prequel love thing i said i don't

want to see the emperor with a lightsaber at any point that's the part of the prequels that i i am out on seeing seeing fucking old sheave all that old bag sheave with a lightsaber weird and i know that some people like it some people dig it i prefer him as the old man that just fucking shoots lightning out of his fingers that fucking yeah unlimited power give me lightning give me something new anything but mando's fucking flame anything but that i'm good and even kind of going back to like you said with the the original since this is the rise of Skywalker, this is the trilogy, the triple trilogy, whatever you want to call it. The whole Skywalker saga is wrapping up. You can get away with almost a montage, like at the end of The Wire when they go to Baltimore, you go to all the parts you went to throughout the series.

And we're like, all right, this is how they're celebrating in Tatooine, Coruscant. Bring it back to Hoth where there's just some dude in a tauntaun lighting a Roman candle up like, we did it, motherfuckers! I would actually – I would love to see a Return of the Jedi-esque celebration scene, celebration across the galaxy. That just – every time I watch Jedi, that makes me feel so warm inside, so good. Like, we won. I want – that's another thing that I'm so so so we're gonna do the death pool and i have one of the main characters in my death pool i think one of the main characters on our side the resistance is going to die i don't want anyone on the resistance to die if

we're being honest i want the happiest ending possible i love these characters i feel like this is you know in a in a weird, like sort of my Star Wars trilogy. Nothing will ever beat the original trilogy for me. But this is the trilogy that I've been with. I've grown up through it. I want a very happy, hopeful ending. That's fair. I think that's fair because that's how Return of the Jedi ends.

And that's what Star Wars is in its spirit, right? It's like a happy story. It's a hopeful thing. Unless it is kind of ends up being like where the Sith, the revenge – it's like so revenge of the Sith and that is a dark ending. Return of the Jedi, R-O-T, whatever, Jedi. And then we have the happy and this ends up being the gray middle of the road. All right. It is what it is. I could see that up being the gray middle of the road all right it is what it is i could see

that also being the thing um but give me a montage of kind of where we are which i mean the fucking wire is all about grays and you know life is not always perfect and nothing they don't really fix anything in the end some good some bad if that's what star wars ends up being i i can live with it i know there is a lot of a case we made like Star Wars is about just like good over evil and all that kind of stuff. But I mean that's not always how it works unfortunately. So I'm with you on that though about going – what planet do you really want to see? Like is there anywhere from like the prequels you would want to see? There's a big one.

It's Naboo. I fucking love Naboo. Bro, I'm a sucker for Naboo. I don't know what it is. I love Naboo. I think it's –. Bro, I'm a sucker for Naboo. I don't know what it is. I love Naboo. I think it's – I've played the Battlefront games, all this. I want to go to Italy so bad just to pretend it's Naboo. I want to – you know what?

First of all, the look in your eyes saying the word Naboo. It's like – Bro, I love it. You talk about Daisy Ridley. It's a great planet. It's gorgeous, beautiful. I want our girlfriend to get Naboo. I want her.

She's a fucking diehard Amidala for seven years on Halloween. Alright, you want to get into the death pools? Are you ready to get into the death pool, Rob? Because I can already tell this is going to hurt you. Actually, that's what we do. How about we do give the reviews your death pool?

What? We'll have the reviews. Everyone leaves a five-star review from my mom's on basement and they make their death pool predictions you list everyone you think is going to die and i will say this and then maybe and maybe at the end something you want to happen something positive yes and um that's that's a good call right there i like that and then um think of it with thrones though though some people thought there weren't enough important characters killed in thrones and some people thought that was a bad thing some people thought it was just fine

it did seem kind of weird that like everyone survived the battle oh i don't want to spoil thrones for people but there were some things where people thought there should be more death so just keep that in mind when you're making your death pool selection i think people might be disappointed in my death pool i feel like my death pool is vanilla but i tried to go with realistic i have five names written down okay i just going to rattle off all five and then you could go through your five afterwards. Yeah. Number one, Kylo Ren, as you know, I think he's got to die. I want him to die. Number two, the emperor episode nine, rise of Skywalker. Got to kill that motherfucker once and for all. Got to kill sheave. I don't know how you do it. Cause

if, if Darth Vader didn't kill him by throwing him down the exhaust port, it's going to take a lot. But he's got to die. General Hux, I think at some point Kylo Ren is going to get fed up of his shit and he's going to get a violent death, maybe his head cut off or something. Maybe a limb cut off. Star Wars, we need limbs cut off at all times. And then, unfortunately, I have two people on the Resistance side. One, our princess, our general, Leia Organa. As I said before, they don't have a lot of footage to work with with Carrie Fisher. I think you've got to give her a death. I would like for her to have

a peaceful death, a Yoda-type death, as opposed to the Resistance base gets blown up and she was on it. I think that would be a little i don't know just it would be weird given the circumstances and my final one is my guy poe dameron we know that in return of the jedi uh harrison ford really wanted han to make a big sacrifice for the rebels and die he thought that's you know what more could that character do poe dameron is sort of the han solo of this series. At the same time, he just had a character arc in The Last Jedi where people were sacrificing themselves on behalf of him, and he learned how to be a good leader. Will he continue that character arc and be a good leader

and know that sacrifices aren't worth making, or go the complete opposite way and say, all right, now it's time to give back for what the resistance has given to me for all these years and go through a sacrifice. I don't know. I don't want Poe to die, but I think there's a decent chance that Poe will die. Okay, well, my death pool, I'll do five as well.

And they're basically, I mean, I think Kylo's done and Emperor, Hux are all done. Leia, because I think, I don't know if Leia dies if Carrie Fisher doesn't die. I think that kind of forces their hand in a certain way. We knew that this was meant to be her movie. Yeah, exactly. And it's funny because my fifth – I think this is like the swing boat. I think it's going to be Finn who ends up being the one dying. Because I think he's been very much about the sacrifice.

He changed the sides and proving that he is 100% behind it. And I thought he was going to die. I still don't know. That's another – we're not even getting to The Last Jedi. I didn't think he was going to die there. I bought that hook, line, and sinker. So my choice – I think it's it's gonna be there's a pool of maybe three or four people that can go and i think poe and finn are amongst them i would be a

little surprised if if finn goes i have to say but i also like i think that would be this i mean think about where last jedi ended i don't think anyone saw luke fighting kylo ren but not fighting him and dying on a different planet altogether in meditation. So there's things we cannot possibly imagine see coming. I also – I'm nervous. I had written down Lando because they just – I thought it was the other day. They just killed Ackbar in like a background scene. Like, oh, yeah, Admiral Ackbar is dead.

That got me really upset. People had a big issue with that. There was also a thing there where the actor the voice actor that played akbar passed away during the filming so they were like oh we don't know what to do here i would have preferred them to just kind of get a different voice actor i don't know if that would have been disrespectful or what but he's admiral akbar come on he's a fucking he's a big squid you could put someone else in that outfit every star wars fan i said it's a trap a thousand times we've trained our voices and i bet people are like oh is akbar the podcast no guys it was just me saying it's a trap i'm with you on that and then

people have said you know they they wish that he was the one to make holdo's sacrifice or something there are certain things about the last jedi where people say i wish it was that way and i'll agree with and say yeah that would have been cool but the way they did it didn't really bother me i'm a big laura dern fan of a big jurassic park fans of seeing her i i didn't have any issue with her character i also sort of liked the the backstory between her and Leia that was written about in the book written by Claudia Gray. But that's about it for The Rise of Skywalker. We've gone about an hour and a half here. It's a long podcast, but necessarily long because the saga's coming to an end. It's fucking crazy. Crazy times. Episode 9 coming out this week. I hope that

everyone enjoys The Rise of Skywalker. Go in with an open mind. Even if you didn't like The Last Jedi, like Clem, listen to him in this podcast. He's excited. He's a six and a half. We will be back next Monday with our Rise of Skywalker recap show. I'm so excited to do that one. These are always the most fun to do.

We're going to try to get a big group together. We tried to get a group together for the preview show. It's always hard to do, but I'd love to get maybe Jeff and Fran in here, maybe even Trent if he's back from Australia by then. I don't even fucking know. He's a Star Warrior himself. But we appreciate you listening. Make sure you leave your death pool and something you would like to see in the reviews of this podcast. We'll give us a five-star rating if you haven't already.

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Hey, after this one, I don't think we're getting a Star Wars movie until like 2022. So seriously, take this one. Take this one in. Go see Star Wars as many times as you fucking can this week.