My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 391 - THE PENGUIN EPISODE 6

Episode Date: October 29, 2024

Robbie and Clem recap #ThePenguin Episode 6 titled: 'Gold Summit' where Victor breaks bad, Oz rallies the troops, and Sofia/Sal are after all that The Penguin cares about. Plus, Robbie describes #AgathaAllAlong Episode 7 to Clem, they discuss #VenomTheLastDance, #Joker2, and more! **************************************** My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike! Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement, presented by Barstool Sports and another very special Penguin Recap edition of My Mom's Basement. We're getting towards the end of the season. It's a little bittersweet. It's such a great show. We don't want it to go anywhere. Speaking of not going anywhere, don't go anywhere after the Penguin recap because I will be describing this week's or last week's Agatha all along to Clem as we've been doing all season. Another episode where I told you, Clem, it's pretty good. It's not Penguin good, but I got two good episodes to talk about

this week. I'm happy. I think it operates in the pretty good to not bad range which I'll take as a definite win and sometimes we we've dipped below the bad range but based on and again, I haven't read anything but I've seen there's been a lot of chatter about like what could be happening theories finale stuff. So, I feel like there's a chance you could even go into the good zone at some point when it's all said and done. So, the pretty good to not bad range is a range I can live with. However, the Penguin is operating in the really good, very good to great range at all times. And I told you, I hadn't watched this week's episode at this point, but I went to IMDb just to see the rate, the review ratings for the episode, which don't mean everything as we know, especially this crazy online world we live in. But I'd seen it was 9.5 for the Arkham episode, 8.8 for the episode, which don't mean everything as we know, especially this crazy online world we live in. But I'd seen it was 9.5 for the Arkham episode, 8.8 for the next week's episode, and then

9.1 for this week's episode. And I said, all right, we're just churning out bangers. And with two more left and so many loose ends, I feel like we are going to have potentially the best two episodes of the entire season coming our way here. I think you're right and I've almost been afraid to say this f-word. I don't want to say the f-word on the podcast but I've been holding back and I've been thinking they don't have any filler episodes. Like throughout the season I've been thinking like all right like that wasn't a filler episode that wasn't a filler episode but I didn't want to say it out loud because I was like, one's gotta be coming, right? We got the penultimate next week.

We got the finale after that. I don't think they're gonna hit the first filler episode next week. I think they delivered us a season of television in 2024 with no filler episodes. It's just the good shit. They packed it all into eight episodes, and every week I look forward to it on Sunday morning,

Sunday night, I'm blown away and I'm like, I can't believe they did it again. And yeah, I'm thinking how House of the Dragon ended up just being like a season full of filler episodes. It felt like especially at the end. And we would rationalize it on the podcast. It's all right. It's a filler, but it's getting us to next week. Penguin said, fuck that.

You don't need any filler every week It's gonna be awesome. I wonder if if they mapped it out and were like 12 episodes We're gonna have to fill even 10. There might be a little f-word eight. That's lean. It's gonna be perfect It's cut nice and nice and trim and here we are just crushing every single week with new problems, new characters. I don't know if there was a no fuck moment. We had about six last episodes. I think there was one. I think there was one with Vic. Yes, definitely a no fuck with all capital letters. Oh, fuck. Yeah. So yeah, uh, point retracted. And then like you could even say that the final shot shot the final shot of the whole episode the cliffhanger

kind of an oh fuck moment Yes, that was an oh fuck moment as was I throw bar the Like just what cans are gonna open and not open you were thinking there could be an oh fuck moment So there's oh fuck potential on that as well So definitely we've trimmed down on the oh fuck moments But I think that kind of just piece of how much we had in previous episodes, right? And tell you what I need this show to be as good as it is right now because the Yankees are not that good right now Down oh three as we're recording this in the World Series

If there's no game six and you're in the area of New Haven come on down to totes place I mean if there is a game six the show's still happening But I imagine a lot of people in that area are Yankee fans and they're gonna be like Robbie if I'm choosing the Yankees World Series or pup punk I understand you choosing the Yankees World Series, but November 1st costume party Clem's gonna be there I just wanted to get the plug in before we recap the penguin and Agatha all along this week It's gonna be fun. Pup punk has selected our costumes Finally and I'll just tease it by saying it's not a all along this week. It's gonna be fun. Pup Punk has selected our costumes finally. And I'll just tease it by saying,

it's not a, it's not like a basement favorite, but I think the basement boys and girls will appreciate our costumes. I think the same with my wife and I's costume that we've used before. I had to get a couple new things for it just because it's been so long since we wore them. But, and I'll be there. And hey, listen, New Haven, there's plenty of Red Sox fans in New Haven.

There's plenty of Mets fans, I'm sure, in New Haven. We could root against the Yankees together if the World Series is on and we can see Robbie's Heartbreak live. I mean, I don't want Robbie's Heartbreak live, but we can root against the Yankees together. Let's go all spade to spade. It's gonna be a fun time. Pup Punk rocks for tickets. You spell rocks R-A-W-X or just go to my Twitter and stuff. New Haven, November 1st. Alright, let's talk about the Penguin. Episode 6 is called Gold Summit. We just read that right before we went live and I haven't looked it up. I'm gonna assume that's the name of the beer at the end of the episode.

I think that would make a lot of sense. And that's the, you the beer played a big factor. We opened with some good narration. And I'm sorry that I keep going back to the Sopranos to make comparisons, but it did remind me of like that opening episode of the Sopranos, the only one where you get Tony narration. It felt like that where Oz is talking about the business growing and who has power in the city.

They also show his operation growing. They show that he started with two buckets and now it's flourishing. And they also show, Vic now carries a gun. And as soon as they showed that at the beginning of the episode, he comes down on the motorcycle, takes the gun out of the bag.

It's like, okay, Chekhov's gun. I don't know if they're gonna use it in this episode, but he's definitely gonna have to turn to the dark side a little bit and make his first kill at some point. They did use it in this episode. They don't make us wait in this show. It's just like good shit right down the barrel. No pun intended.

Another thing I appreciate, it's winter in Gotham City. I love me some Gotham City in the winter. When you give us it in Batman Returns with the Christmas theme, when you give us it in Dark Knight Rises with the post-apocalyptic style feel, I always like that. And Oz has to explain to Victor that they're dating around with bliss. Another thing where you're like, brother, this is going to be an issue that you're going to have to sneak your way out of. Like, what do you mean you're talking to all of the rival gangs and supplying them?

Crown Point still has no power. Did you notice the building they're staying in and crown point says zoo which is like maybe a batman returns reference because he's in the sewers under the zoo i don't know if that's a reach or not but i i think it could be i was like is that sign attached to like there's like a little zoo nearby and we're gonna have the penguins Yeah, that seemed like it was a little excessive because he's already called the penguin for another reason I but I I did notice I did notice that as well the winter thing as well. I heard Someone was saying that I believe they said the Batman's gonna take place in the winter and it's gonna take place Oh, I think right. Yeah

Yep, so I mean that winter Batman's now I see this is the thing that I am not a huge Batman Returns guy because I don't like Tim Burton the extra weird style 89 was fine. And then that one gets a little extra Tim Burton and it's just not my cup of tea. I did watch speaking of Tim Burton Beetlejuice Beetlejuice this weekend, but it was very enjoyable. I know your wife is a huge Beetlejuice Beetlejuice this weekend, but it was very enjoyable I know your wife is a huge Beetlejuice fan. We talked about it when it came out. I really thought it was great

Wasn't like the first Beetlejuice, but I'm not really a movie sequel Perfect Halloween movie right like Halloween go check out the line There's a little Beetlejuice, baby. Very funny. They give you really juices backstory in it yeah oh geez it's good stuff it's michael gandhi it's worth watching just for michael keaton like being beetle juice again because he's fucking great as beetle juice um here's something that i i think a lot of people would say is great maybe some people wouldn't sophia has dr rush tied up in an interesting position that was you know up in an interesting position. That was, you know, the every week I texted you my for you pages now just penguin memes just top to bottom. And it's a lot of like Sophia gigante thirst tweets of just guys being like, Oh my god, take me to Arkham city or whatever. He's tied

up. He just wants to be like he wants her to be a dominatrix or something. He's like you want like he's got no pants on they're all sweaty and she's just like so and so we'll see out Just a total power move I'm gonna put this this is a blind Statement a blind take that is my favorite transition in the history of our show Here's something some people like, maybe not everyone. I think we just learned a little bit about Rob Fox's private life and the life on the podcast. No, no, I was just talking about the thirst tweets.

The Sophia, I'll let Sophia ruin my life. I'll let Sophia step on my head. People tweet with things like that. I'm not shaming Bob. This is the space. You can't let your freak flag fly here. You can't let it fly everywhere. It flies in the basement. I love you for Bob. But yeah, this dude rush man. He is a he's a character. I mean, what is his end game?

That's I imagine you're watching him on the sus list. And then it's like, but he is he just like, he's just gonna be her submissive. And then this is just like he is he just like he's just gonna be her submissive And that this is just like is he gonna lose his mind at some point and become like a henchman Is he gonna fucking try to kill her is she gonna kill him? I still think she might kill him at some point and she's just like yeah, he was my fuck toy I think he like wants to live out all those tweets you're reading about her doing all this He definitely does. And then maybe he's kind of her much like she's like with Cersei in the mountain, except he's like a

twisted fucked up, not as strong version of the mountain, maybe he's kind of the henchman, the sidekick. And he, you know, she sends, you know, she catches the flies in the web and then gives them to him to really like let him do whatever the fuck kind of Arkham shit or red light therapy he has going on there. Yeah. Yeah, that therapy thing I still feel like can come up in another way. Like maybe it's not he uses it, but maybe in the Batman two, they're using it in Arkham and it's fucking driving people insane or they put her into that if she goes back into Arkham by the end of the show. I think that was still a thing. They focused on in that episode the back-and-forth red light. Yeah, also I thought about this when they showed the how the mushrooms had gone from just two buckets, which is very cool They show how you remember this thing's gonna become what it became

But you saw it when it was damn near everything just burnt to a crisp or whatever just died because of the atmosphere change Chat out Sophia because I think it was we thought it was her brother who originally thought of bliss But it Sophia was like this was my idea. I was in Arkham. This is you know kind of my whole thing a Plus a plus fucking drug Acumen by whoever came up with fucking right. Yeah, it's a smash hit. It is a little Heisenberg-y. They would do the, especially towards the end of Breaking Bad, they would kind of just do montages to show how much the business has grown.

Like when they go international or whatever, they just give you a montage and then it's like, oh my God, the business is bigger than ever. That kind of gave me the same vibe. If you have people in hazmat suits, fucking farming drugs in an underground place, I'm gonna get those vibes. Sophia and Sal become acquainted.

He shows her some old recipes from his wife. He drinks Carmine's wine and it's kind of a fuck you. She's like, I can't believe you opened that bottle. He's like, ah, fuck that guy. Even uses it as like to cook. And everyone says you're not supposed to use like the good wine to cook. He's like, ah, fuck Carmine.

I'm understood. Carmine set him up in like the biggest drug bust in Gotham history or whatever. And then you get a good dinner scene on the flip side among this new like family, the Cobbs and Victor. Victor feels like he's like part of the family. Feels like he's like a son or something. And the mom is again, kind of losing it. Victor's trying to help her I think, by being like she's

talking about her son and stuff. And he's like, Oh, jacks at the bank. He's don't worry about jack right now. And that sets Oz off because he's like, what the fuck, you don't have the right to bring up my brother never bring up my brother. A lot of people on Reddit and stuff said, this is a thing that can help people with dementia. If you just go along with what they're saying, you don't wanna make them more agitated than they are. So Victor could literally be doing the right thing here

and Oz is just so irate that he mentioned Jack's name. Very good scene and this was an episode overall where we've been praising Oz, we've been praising Sophia, even Vic, I said in the first episode, I didn't think Vic was all that great. We're at the point now where I'm completely bought into Vic's performance. The mom in this episode, very good.

This is not Livia good, I'm not gonna, Livia's on a level of her own, but very, very good showing for the mom in this episode. Yeah, we had ourselves a good mom episode. Might be our last full mom episode. We'll see how everything shakes up. I think it will be, yeah. I mean, maybe they keep her alive

till like the finale as a hostage or something to drive Oz fucking insane, but I mean, there ain't no mama in season two. Yeah, I mean, we're getting that dancing scene felt like about as good as it's gonna get for her from here on out, right? And they really do live like a ghetto fabulous life. Like he's putting the fucking necklace on her. They're freezing their asses off in a place that doesn't have power. You know, it's like, that's what a life of crime gets you. Like the dreams of that. And hey, maybe at one point you climb over everyone and kill your two brothers, still

keeping that in the mix as a potential theory here That's how you want to do to get there and get your fucking Empire cool, but like right now it's tough sledding for for old penguin boy and Then tough sledding for Vic as well as he's walking the streets Squid comes and tries to mess with them and he's asking him where he gets his money asking him who he works for now the worst vibes imaginable from this guy like Almost too real in that you could imagine this guy in New York City or whatever, you know whatever big city you're in

You could this is the last guy you want to run into on the street at 2 in the morning wherever you are and the way he comes up to him, the way he starts to make him flinch and starts to swing at him and shit, it made me feel a little uneasy just watching it and that pays off later. This scene, they show Oz's apartment getting broken into by Sophia and Sal.

Oz lives above a store called Burgess Jewelry. I didn't realize this is actually where he lives. Tommy Smoke sent me a picture of this from I think episode one or two. And he was telling me this is right by the old office. It is, I think it's like 27th and fifth or something. It's right by where Barstool used to be. And Burgess, of course, Burgess Meredith

is the guy who played the Penguin in the 1960s Adam West series. So that's a great little nod to him to have Burgess Jewelry be the actual like location of where Penguin lives above. And there's a little monocle as the there's like a little logo there. I didn't even know that. It's like the jewelers holding a monocle up kind of thing. Oh, that even better thing. Yeah. So it's I didn't even pick up on that. I love that. But they find when they go into the apartment,

they're looking for any kind of family or connection. And Sophia mentions like, yeah, his mother's dead, don't know about his dad, I think she says, or maybe she says his dad is dead as well. But they definitely think the mom is dead. They find Eve's picture and some of her underwear, she has like a draw at his house and in his bedroom. She also takes a cigar cutter. And I feel like that's going to pay off at some point. Like I think she's going to be cutting fingers off with that

fucking cigar cutter and it's going to be disgusting. Back in his place, finds his mom in a freezing cold tub, who knows how long she was in there. Even like, I don't know how they did it, but they made her look like blue they made her look like she she was going through hypothermia or something and in an amazing scene Amazing acting she makes him promise to kill her. She's like, I don't want to be a vegetable I don't want to go through this. I know what I'm going through right now. I'm present. He's like you're losing your mind You're crazy. She's like right now. I'm not crazy right now now I can see what's happening to me. Please promise to kill me. Now here's the

thing. This threw all of my theories up in the air because I feel like there's a million scenarios they can go with this promise that Oz, he eventually did make her the promise. Initially I thought maybe He eventually did make her the promise. Initially I thought maybe the mom gets killed on Vic's watch, maybe by Sophia. Oz snaps, Oz kills Vic. Maybe he kills Sophia as well. Now I'm thinking Oz promised to kill his own mom. Is he going to do something crazy like kill his own mom in front of Sophia to make her think he will do anything

that he has snapped to this level. Will he be more okay with the mom dying? Will the mom be used as a sacrifice in some situation where it's like her last breath she'll be helping her baby boy become the kingpin that she always wanted him to be? I feel like this throws a bit of a wrench in what we thought could happen. Do you agree? Yeah, I think he could, it's almost he's able to justify some of the really shitty stuff he's going to do here. Yeah. And he's like, that's probably the last egg he wants to crack.

But if need be the egg has asked to be cracked So he is now allowed to crack the egg and by that I mean kill his fucking mother and based on everything I know about this dude Like that's probably the one thing you say he wouldn't do but that's the one thing now He has like the permission to do so I I'm with you I think that does open up that possibility and it does feel like he has a Sophie's Choice kind of a thing here and it's's like, well, I already got the green light on this. And the other path that he can then take if he kills his mom, he then has the path to become, you know, rich and powerful

and all his dreams essentially in exchange for his mom's life. So I'm 100% with you on that, Bob. And like you said, that squid guy, I got a shout out. I don't know if it It's him the casting director everything Everyone knows a guy like that Yeah, that guy played it perfectly right because he is that in real life so I don't want to give too much a shot of the people that play more but maybe I'll just give him credit as a good actor and He fucking nailed that hard-o dickhead scumbag roll. So goddamn well to the point. I'm just like kill this guy Vic I know you are not a killer, point I'm just like kill this guy Vic I know you are not a killer but I need you to kill this guy yeah and also we're going

back to the mom I could see Sophia still killing her or Sal killing her and it making penguins snap because he's like that was supposed to be me I was supposed to give her like a peaceful if that means whatever and maybe they torture her and they you know something like that This is kind of fucked up. You can't trust the mob No, no, no, so what that's the one organization. I believe you cannot trust actually, right? Yeah Who is the odds on favorite to kill the penguins mom, let's just throw some months out there right now I don't think we throw any sports books in on this.

We don't want, I don't think they want to, they're named so serious, but. I mean, skipping ahead, you see the crowbar at the end. I think that makes Sophia the favorite. Minus 200? Maybe even like a minus 150, I was thinking. Like, no, like I was thinking like, I don't know if anyone should be minus 200 right now.

Okay, that's fair. I think Sophia, then is it Penguin or Sal next? Sal has the family. Squid would have been on the list. He's off the list because he threatened her a little bit. Vic is not on the list. Vic's on the list. Vic's on the list.

No. He has to be you have to put them on they could be like on his watch But he's not gonna kill her you could still bet the Titans to win the Super Bowl you can still win These plus plus 25,000 yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, it's a long yeah And then worth penguin on it is penguin higher than that's what I'm saying. Him and Sal are like, I don't know who I would put higher right now because he made her the promise this week. But you would think stale after he killed sales, fucking wife and child, I would put Sal higher than Penguin. Even though Penguin made the promise, I think Sal and Sophia are ahead of him. And yeah, and like, let's be honest, if the mom, when the mom dies, whatever you want to call it,

it's not being done in that apartment in that scene. It's being done somewhere where, yeah, the drama, hostage situation might even bring her back to where the mom and the son were burned alive as kind of a, you know, bring her to folk thurcle.. I could see they might burn her alive. Might watch the penguin or make Penguin watch. All right. Now, let's do some out here. How does Penguin's mom we just spent an hour an episode about some 85 year old dementia patients going to get murdered here.

That's the kind of stick shit this show is about, though. This show wouldn't do in as a comic book show. And then it really gets to some deep, fucking mob stuff man some really fucked up shit Sophia goes to threaten Eve after finds some information, you know, she finds the the Polaroids and stuff She wants more information on Oz so she thinks she could get it from Eve Roxy gives her away Roxy was the one that was talking to Vic early on in the show and then you get a great scene I guess that it skips a little but we could talk about it now where Roxy was the one that was talking to Vic early on in the show. And then you get a great scene. I guess it skips a little, but we could talk about it now, where Sophia shows up at Eve's

apartment and I almost thought she was going to shoot her as soon as she opened the door. She was standing there like the killing joke, the joker. He paralyzes Barbara Gordon as soon as she opens that door. Boom. I thought she was just going to shoot Eve and that's her sign to fucking Oz. But no, she wants a little more information. Eve gives him up. I didn't know how to feel about that

because it's like Oz put her in a really shitty spot but there's still a weird fucked up part of me that's rooting a little bit for Oz. So it's like, I was a little disappointed she gave her up but the whole scene between them where Eve just assumes this is gonna be her last few minutes left on earth. She's like, you're gonna kill me, right? You came here to kill me.

And Sophia makes the decision not to, and is just pitying her in terms of like, oh, you gotta put on the wigs, you gotta pretend for these guys. Penguin was the best you ever had. There's that voice and shit. This was like a very good, it was a girl power scene in a weird way

without being overly girl power. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, not- They weren't hitting you in the face with it, but it just, it had that vibe. Heavy Spoilers did a good breakdown between the way they were talking and interacting with each other and the way Sophia treated her despite having the upper hand and the way Penguin treats

that politician which we'll get into in a minute here and he is violent going at him doing this and that and she's like he's going with the salty she's going with the sweet and like just tells it like it is and even she said like I don't have privilege like you I can't see him black and white I have have to live in the grays. And she kind of just tells it like it is. And she's fair. And I think, and this was another thing, heavy spoilers have brought up is that when she realized, cause she thought Sophia was the hangman going to finish, you know, kill some more people. And when she realized, Oh, that was a big part of the scene as well. But I forgot. Yeah. Yeah. Penguin had to know that he was that Carmine was the hangman and it's her

friends so he's like wait so he knew my friends died and he never told me that and we've been intimate we've been whatever this weird fucked up religion they have is like at that point I think he had betrayed her to the point where she could betray him and it was an equal betrayal in her mind and that's why I in the end I was I I was the same I was like wow She really gave him up like that like it's not like I'm like, oh, you know the the prostitute the heart of gold But it did feel like they had more than that and it's like no But he like three of her friends got fucking murdered and he did not yeah

I forgot that aspect of the scene that changes things. You're a hundred percent right right that right? Yeah, I forgot it too until I saw the recap and I said oh, that's again We're gonna hate this fucking guy in Batman too cuz yeah Bob you're a Batman guy first and foremost you you don't even like Have some fun with me like oh hey about this No, Batman must survive Bruce Wayne is so important. We need to thrive There's the Batman and shelf over there Batman funko Batman that's the battinson you get the whole animated series there the whole 1960

series there Dark Knight trilogy the four movies before it I don't think I actually have the Batman physical because I don't buy as much physical stuff anymore but I am of the mindset that I kind of like the physical so maybe I should get that. Also like when I'm talking the mindset that I kind of like the physical. So maybe I should get that. Also, when I'm talking about villains, like the way you feel about villains in Batman Universe, the way I felt about Freddie Freeman. He's scary now, right? Tell me how scary he is. He's scary, he's got that giant fake smile like the Joker.

I hate that guy. I absolutely hate him. He causes chaos, he can't stop hitting home runs See, I mean by the time this episode comes out. He will probably have hit three more home runs against the Yankees My favorite scene in the episode. I think this is my favorite just because it made me laugh the hardest What you mentioned Oz going and torturing a councilman. I think it was councilman or that wasn't the mayor Councilman I think it was Councilman or that wasn't the mayor Councilman Haiti played by you alerted me of this today. I did not recognize him in the episode played by the guy who plays Billy Walsh I'm not even gonna try to say his name because I don't know what his name is to read something. I think

Billy Walsh from entourage who fucking hates suits play in the biggest suit of them all Shutting off the power in Crown Point so they could have it, City Hall and stuff. Penguin goes up to him with a set of pliers, puts it between his nostrils and just fucking squeezes. You see the blood rushing down. It's one of those scenes where, yes, we're on Penguin's side when it comes to this.

Like, let's not fucking keep the power for the rich people. It makes you wince just watching it though. It's like even though that's the fucked up guy, you're like, oh God, all right, just stop doing it. Stop doing it, get past this. And the funniest part, the part that made me laugh, I'm not a psychopath, I wasn't laughing at the plier part.

The funniest part is right after that, he takes his tie, he wipes his pliers off, and then he helps him back out of his spot. He's like, come on, come on, you got more room than you think. Come on. And then just the switch, the flipping that switch in his mind. That made me laugh so fucking hard. I was like crying. That was, that was such a great part. And it was so real because

you've always had like the person to have that the guy who was salty, it also be the guy who was telling you have a little extra room there, just crushed it. Colin crushed it. Everything was was awesome on the scene. And again, that was a heavy spoiler. He said Billy Walsh. No fucking way. Mr. Medi-ian himself, Billy Walsh. So and he's involved with the the real girl. I didn't think he was even in the Batman. So he's going to be I think and he's like a character in the books. He's a corrupt politician. He is. Yeah, we're not going to we're going to be seeing more of him. I think he's gonna be I think and he's like a character in the books. He's a corrupt. Haiti is yeah We're not gonna we're gonna be seeing more of him I think he's gonna be a real nuisance to like the people trying to get make a real change in Gotham here

So it was it was just incredible though. You know, dude Haiti in is in the a lot of the run that I read when I was in high school like the new 52 run and becomes Mayor so I'm like, I don't know, they just elected Belariel mayor and the Batman. I don't think they're going to do like a reelection or like she's going to get assassinated. He's going to step up, but there's an option to make him the mayor in the future. I also, I want to put this here just because we're talking politics. I'm not going to go on a real political rant, but I was going to say this on social

media and I didn't want to get Ruth Condon forever and being accused of lying, but it's to God's honest truth. AJ said to me like two days ago and goes, dad, I know who I'm not voting for for president. And I said, oh boy, this is gonna be an issue. And don't worry folks, we're not getting political in the basement. This isn't like political, serious political shit. And he goes, I'm not gonna say the two people's names, but it's two politicians. It's not the presidential It's like a councilman or some local thing and they have been advertising non-stop on YouTube, which they watch YouTube sometimes they can watch regular YouTube not just YouTube for kids and then they

Had commercials during the antenna tire NLCS, which was being played a five o'clock local time He's watching the Mets and like every fucking commercial if you watch the playoffs you know every fun commercial break usually has both fucking like sides are represented. He has heard these names so he said this person person X I'm not going to vote for because they want to let all the prisoners out of jail and that's a terrifying thought? And then person B has stolen a bunch of money and he has giant garbage trucks full of money. So when AJ's mind right now, he has a person looking to release all the criminals and a person with millions of dollars in garbage trucks right now, as corrupt as it can get. And I'm like, I don't want to get on a soapbox and getting any kind of reform in this country

is impossible. We just can't show these during Baseball games at the very least that are played like before eight o'clock local and maybe like I don't know. It's hard with youtube because even youtube I don't like showing them but there has to be like maybe not on fortnight videos And shit, you know, yes There needs to be a line of demarcation here because like a literal he's six years old and he's saying this stuff to me And I mean from his perspective he lives in Gotham City It's like Bane is running for fucking council and he wants to release everyone from Arkham. It's like what the fuck dude

We are my wife and I are the least political people you'll meet and we're just like listen buddy They tell a lot of like stories about each other. Don't listen. We're not going to vote for them. Like, got it, got it. And he's like, well, how are we going to vote for him? Like, we're not even going to get into that right now, pal. So moving on. But yeah, I did feel like it was a little bit of Gotham.

It's like fucking terrifying. This guy's going to let everyone out of Blackgate. This guy has people in Arkham dying on his watch. Craziness. There's there's no one with real change, you know? Yes, exactly. Vic, this is the moment where he has his dark side turn, I would say, and his hand was forced. It wasn't like he made a fucked up decision. He goes back to Squid and is like, hey man, basically we're not hiring right now,

but I put in a good word and you know, the people I work for, they really respect you. So here's what we're gonna do, we're gonna pay you off and I can pay you off every single week because this is your territory and we all know that. And he takes it and he starts looking at it and then I'm thinking like, if you're Squid right now, the power's out, he's fucking doing nothing, you take that that money you start get get paid off a few weeks first before you start asking for more

But he takes and starts throwing it and he's like i'm spending this fast and gets in fixed face He's like you think you could fucking pay me off bring me to Oz right now bring me to Oz. He's like, all right He's like Oz is gonna kill you dude. He's like, okay, I'd like to fucking see it He tries to give him another out if like it's gonna be a few hours. He's like Oz is gonna kill you dude. He's like, okay, I'd like to fucking see it He tries to give him another out of like it's gonna be a few hours. He's like, I'll wait It's like oh fuck. I hope he has that gun on him and he did it before I even thought he would do it I thought they would kind of like I thought he would bring him in somewhere and then shoot him in the back or something Goodfellas style. He just fuck it turns real quick 180 shoots him and it hits him in the throat. And he has to watch this guy bleed out as blood is spurtin out of his neck.

He's starting to cry, saying, I'm sorry, his voice is getting shaky. Runs off. Eventually, Penguin later comforts him about it. Realizes what happened because he tried to talk to him about squid earlier. Kind of blew him off. Then he's like, oh, is that guy gives him a big hug, like a fatherly hug? And it's like, it gets easier, which is such a chilling statement. Like it is comforting. But like, you're basically saying, Hey, get used to this, because that's

the business you're in. Great scene, the whole way they played the actual shooting and then the penguin thing after I thought was phenomenal. Yeah. And even the conversation where you know, penguin has real shit on his mind. And Vic just tries to, you know, get a hand from his like idol or whatever. And so Penguin's credit, like he was willing to help out but I think Vic was like, he's dealing with enough shit with his mom and that's kind of the thing about it all. And seeing like a young Vic, he saw like Vic 1.0 where he's just trying to make it work

and pay him off and he'll just take the hits, right? He took the lump when he paid off the police officer and Then just seeing and this this show keeps it fucking real It's like it would have been a clean shot in like another show in a Marvel show, right in this show It's fucking half the neck is gone and it's just and this was another I'm like, I'm not gonna stare at the screen right now I don't need to see this kids blood. I can't say had to look away She was like, all right, tell me when it's off. And this is the one that was like, please kill him, Vic. Please kill him. Then like, all right, just die, dude. Just get off of my screen. So that was

that was just an overall just, whoo, they see he sees the blood on his shoes later. And that one is gonna end up haunting Vic more. It's gonna haunt haunt, you know, squid for those last couple of seconds of his shitty life. My gut says no, but do you think there's any chance this comes back to get Vic? Like the killing? My gut says nobody's really, nobody really cares about Squid like that. I'm with you. I think it's more so um just a hey, he is now a killer. He's now gone full he's broke bad. It's he's officially broke. Yeah, it was the pride the last thresholds He needed and he did it there might be some line about it and you kind of maybe see him turn cold You see like this this not to spoil anything But there is some stuff in the wire where there's like, you know

These innocent characters come in and then some of them break bad to. You're just like, fuck. So it's fucking gnarly, dude. That was a gnarly scene. Oh, fuck. Definitely an old fuck scene. And completely forgot about that one. And then the final big scene of the episode is the penguin rallying together all of the rival gangs in Gotham. He brings him here. He's like, I got something special to show you.

Opens up a box in the back of a car. It's just a bunch of beers. Throws him, eat your beer. And he gives them his pitch of, hey, Sal and the gigantes. He's like, whoever their frickin name is, they don't even like their frickin name. He's like, they have the power to take all of us out. We're all little tiny gangs, you know, spread apart. We all have our own areas. What if we banded together? Basically, what if we unionize this thing? Come together, we're all going to be one big gang, we could fight out against them. Earlier in the episode, they sent him a sign,

you know, three dead bodies with the pinkies cut off and all that shit. So like, obviously, the gang war is upon us, we're basically there already. He gives his pitch of like, will you join me? And a lot of them to try out especially, you're like, absolutely not. You're a fucking, you know, conniving little asshole. And then they start to hear him out and it's like, I don't know, he's got a point.

And they signify that they're in by cracking a beer. And it was such a cool like way to cut to everyone. It was almost a return of the Jedi, the fucking nods before they go through with it. It was just the beer can, the last one being the leader of the Triads, I think it was. And then the final, final shot is Sophia coming into the apartment with Vic and the mom dancing.

She's got the crowbar. So people are pointing out comparisons to a death in the family when Joker kills Jason Todd Robin got the crowbar. So people are pointing out comparisons to a death in the family when Joker kills Jason Todd Robin with a crowbar. Will she do that to Vic? Great way to end the episode though. And another thing that I didn't expect, I didn't expect Penguin like rallying together all the gangs and them joining him. I thought they would think too lowly of him still. But he's got the bliss. He's got the drugs.

They were giving it out for free this week. But he's got the bliss, he's got the drugs, they were giving it out for free this week, so it's friggin all over Gotham, it's spread, the addiction is spread. The Penguin keeps on rolling, Penultimate next week. Motherfuckers good, good at what he does. I loved, there's so many, like I said last week, the way that tattoo scene was shot where the music's off, you just see all the carnage taking place before the kid knows. And this was similar. I've never, I don't think I've ever seen a scene where popping of the beer can means we're in. And if you don't pop it, you're gonna have a bunch of gangsters who are like, you may have to go now. And you're kind of on edge waiting for beer cans to pop. I thought that was

so fucking cool. And just another example, like of the originality of the show that I just love, man. It's like, for people who have always said said like, Oh man, I wish you guys weren't so negative or you guys followed stuff that was, you know, shows that were better. Watch these old shows that were good. No, this was like the perfect thing. A good show that's new and fresh and is going to impact future big projects with the Batman and whatever, however they flesh out the universe. And what do they call this again?

The crime, the Batman epic crime saga or something. Yeah, there was a great tweet about it where they were like, as soon as they announced that I was like, that's kind of corny. And now it's like, oh, we get it. It is an epic crime saga. And that final shot was even chilling the way they panned out slowly to reveal that Sophia was in the apartment with them. Like you could tell it was coming when they start backing up but as soon as you reach that

crowbar it's another like oh fuck I didn't think she was gonna be there that quick I didn't know what was coming in that scene and I said that I go oh and listen I'm still I'm still team Sophia are what are you right now are you team Sophia I was thinking about it this week yeah Yeah, I think I am I think I'm still team but like I know what she's about to go do it's not good And I'm also not super team Moroni I don't love Moroni like I'm more penguin than Moroni. I think even after he did that to his wife and kid I guess I don't know. I don't know. I don't know who to roof. There's nobody to roof for in this show, but They're all kind of likable in weird fucked up ways. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It would be like if the Sopranos had like a rival family. I know they

had some issues with New York, but it never really got to that. Not even close to this point till like the end basically. But if you had it where season one, you guys are just going to war and having all this crazy stuff And you saw how Johnny Sack and Tony were close and then all of a sudden, you know Oh Johnny sacks outside Olivia's house about the fucking murder girl bar. It would be crazy So to see how this is they built all these characters up and kind of like got it going Yeah, I I don't know how so and the thing is you also know if you're on team Oz you're you're fighting another day I don't know if team Sophia is gone in two episodes where team Oz you figure still around

I feel like Moroni will still be around but again, you never know they could take this We thought the Falcons were gonna be this organized crime family throughout at least the Batman 2 right and then subsequent project So I really have no idea what's going on again So again, another credit to how good the show is. And this was another point that Heavy Spoilers made in his video, which if you haven't checked it out, definitely check it out. Is like the way Sophia is like empathetic or sympathetic, whatever, it might end up being her like Achilles heel because she was like that. And that's why, you know, she met with Carmine instead of instead of you know after she had met with the reporter and is like is that

going to be her undoing because we know Oz is not empathetic. He will do whatever is fucking necessary including potentially killing his own mother to get what he wants and I don't know if she has that she will kill her whole family. Will she kill her, his mom? Yeah. Yeah. I don't think about that. It's gonna be very interesting to see how they play cause I think in the end,

and I imagine this is usually happens in all crime, the more ruthless person can usually win. That's why it feels like Escobar. Like I watched a lot of Escobar stuff. I don't know if it was last winter or whatever. That was crazy. I don't know how I watched, I watched like a couple

documentaries and this guy was just killing big took down a fucking plane full of innocent people I might have to make a quote card like one of those like sports center looking things that was crazy clem on pablo escobar's life oh god I have no other way. That was crazy and confirmed. That was crazy. Yeah. Ken confirmed. Yeah. That's why Medi and was such a hit because actually was it a no flop?

Didn't it flop? No, huge flop. Yeah. Huge flop. In theory, it could have been the latest trailer of all time, right? It had like a great trailer. Yeah. Go all wraps up with Billy Miller.

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All right. Agatha All Along, episode seven. This episode was mostly focused on Lillia, who is one of the older witches played by Patti Lapone every episode kind of focuses it feels like it focuses on another person and And gives you backstory along with the witches road stuff. They're on the hot streak right now I think the last two episodes were pretty damn good like the first episode. I really liked The next maybe two or

three I was so so with, but like this one and the two before it, five, six, and seven, I was very in for it. It's really starting to hook me. So credit to Agatha all along. Lilia, the older one, she's starting to lose it. Kind of like a supernatural Uncle June, it feels like. We'll keep the Sopranos reference as rolling. The whole series, she's been kind of like a supernatural Uncle June it feels like we'll keep this sopranos reference is rolling. I like that. The whole series she's been kind of snapping in and out of things and she'll say something and the rest of them will react to like who are you saying that to? This episode explains that so it begins with her imagining herself falling in like this

black abyss like get out very much inspired by get out I think. But she's dressed as Glinda from The Wizard of Oz. So right away it's like, all right, they're gonna get weird. I know this show has a lot of Broadway vibes, obviously you hired fucking Patty Lepone. Agatha offers to answer questions for Billy along the road. They cut away from her right away.

And then it's just Agatha and Billy. She's like, I'll answer any questions for you. He says, is Wanda really dead? And she goes, yes, no, maybe. And he's like, have you seen a body? And she's like, kinda, but it's hard to tell. It's like, all right, that's weird. And then she tells him, if you want straight answers,

talk to a straight person. Agatha all along, very proudly gay show. There's a lot of funny like gay lines. Later on, Billy goes to call himself a quarent and he goes, I'm not a quarent, I'm a quarent. And everyone's like, everyone does the point and laugh like, ah, we get it. But they come across this big castle, Wizard of Oz looking castle. They go in, Billy turns into, I think, Maleficent, I think is, I don't know if that's the name of the villain, but the Angelina Jolie character like has the horns and stuff. Agatha turns into the Wicked Witch and has this great

line where she says she's based on me, you know, and you can't prove that or something but they go through you know, she was the Jolene that Dolly wrote about and she was through history and all these things. I like the idea that the Wicked Witch was based on her and this trial is like a tarot card reading So there's a table in the middle of this room There's little spaces for you to put the right cards in and you got to like guess the right cards Or you know the right story and then the ceiling is full of swords hanging upside down The right story and then the ceiling is full of swords hanging upside down

You put the wrong card in a sword just falls and fucking pokes into the ground so it's like almost like a weird fucked up like board game in real life and They cut back to Lillia who's not in the room so it's like goes back and forth between Lillia and one other which I forget her name and then in the wicked room is Agatha and Billy they go back to Lillia. Quick question. Go ahead. Question. Yeah. As an own sword guy, are they like all different cool looking swords or is it pretty uniform in terms of swords? I think they're pretty uniform, but they're pretty cool looking. Like I would love a pirate sword, you know, like the little curve one. I love like a big fucking

You know, like the little current one. I love like a big fucking Thundercats sword and like they're all kind of medieval style the broad sword. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, okay fair. Thank you So they go back to Lillia She doesn't remember a lot of the recent past but she's flashing back in and out of like a distant past where she's like a child And she's talking to this like Italian She's like a child and she's talking to this like Italian Sicilian nun and she's going in and out of fortune-teller and then she goes back to like episode 1 a moment where she freaked out and Then she reveals that she has these gaps they call them where she doesn't experience time like us Almost maybe a little dr. Manhattan a like not in a way where he experiences everything all at once But she said when she was a kid she like

Experienced her life out of sequence it fucked her up She was able to like disconnect herself from the force and didn't feel that for a long time But now that she's old it's coming back and she's like, maybe it means I'm at the end of my life So it's kind of fucked up and the rest of the episode is told Tarantino style through like, they skip you ahead, they pull you back, they make you confused, they explain it and they do it really well. They never make it too confusing. It's always like, they'll skip ahead and then explain it. They'll skip ahead and then explain it. But it flashes forward to her being with the Wicked crew already. She's dressed like Glinda again and she admits to placing the sigil on the teen in the first

place. And at one point she gets really mad at him and calls him teenager. And they're like, whoa, full name. I thought that was a familiar one. But they have to explain to her like, hey, you're not mad at him anymore. Like we're in the future. Like you got to trust us. You're already over that. So it's like they have to snap her back into it. Uh and then she goes back

to the gaps. She gets back to the wicked spot and she's able to put the cards in the right spot because that's what she did originally. She was like a tarot card reader. So she's the right person for the job. Realizes she has to read her own cards. She's like, oh, this is my trial. So she puts the cards down for her own story. It's like a slumdog millionaire moment, goes back to all of her life, her past. Oh, I know how to put this. And I was the traveler and I did this.

Then it flashes back to her in like this cave and Rio walks in, in full fucking death ropes and they reveal finally they go back through all the moments where it was hinted at through the series where the Ouija board spelled that death and Agatha said something about you'll get the bodies after I'm done or something it's revealed that she is death it's like a big whoa we all saw it coming. Still a cool reveal moment. And Lillia tells Agatha, like hit the deck when she calls you a coward. They go back to the wicked room. So this is teasing something in the future.

Eventually, someone's going to call Agatha a coward and then maybe throw a knife at her and she's going to have to duck. But Lillia stays behind to fight the Salem seven sends the rest of them on their way on the road, and in a fucking metal-ass ending to this episode, the Salem 7 come into this room, which is kind of like a big medieval tower, like you would picture Rapunzel at the top of it. And this is where the swords are. The swords are still hanging from the top of the ceiling. She places a card that sends the room upside down when the Salem seven get up in there and she holds on to this table. The whole tower inverts the

Salem seven all fall onto the upward swords and they fucking show it. They show these swords going through their fucking bodies and shit. And then Lillia, she can't hold on for much longer. She lets go. And it sort of reveals to you the beginning of the episode when you saw her falling, like get out. She was falling in this tower and she fucking falls onto a sword. They don't show her falling onto a sword because she's the good guy we were rooting for and stuff. And then it shows her after that, like as a child going back to that nun,

I don't know if they were implying that was heaven already and she was in the afterlife, whatever you wanna call it, or if that was just she is still experiencing shit out of order in some way, but it was a cool episode. I know it was probably a little confusing for me to explain a time jumping episode to you like that, but it was really well done. So I like to think that there are other people that are getting Agatha

the same way I am. And I am very happy because that was such an interesting episode. And to hear it, you know, you have the wicked stuff. I'm waiting for someone to be called the lion coward. I'm trying to think. Yeah, they didn't sing in this one either. Like when they come out as wicked, I'm like, oh, God, another Broadway number. No singing. Oh man

One question about when the room got flipped upside down with the swords did it resemble? God, I hope you know this reference Did it resemble the pit in Mortal Kombat when you uppercut the guy and go into the pits? Yes. Oh, yes Yes, like the way that they the Salem seven fall into the swords was that. It was exactly that. If Agatha actually, if you told me and then they said like fatality because there was like a Mortal Kombat knot, I would have had to watch the finale live. I would have had to. Is the finale next?

After we... No, I think there's two or three more. Like word. No, there's there's one or two more Let let me see Agatha. I feel like I looked this up before But I know there's either eight or there's eight. Okay, there's just one more. This was the pen ultimate and a good pen ultimate We're in a spot now where I think there's been there's been seven episodes I've liked four of them like I've been been kinda like so-so on three of them, but we're at the point where it almost feels like a Miss Marvel to me, where it's like,

all right, this wasn't, we obviously weren't the target audience for this, but they did a good job with it. Now they have a few extra characters in the universe now. A lot of people are gonna be like, who the fuck are these people when they just show up like doomsday I can't really imagine most of them showing up than anything else like I can imagine maybe Aubrey Plaza

Obviously you could imagine Agatha because we've seen her in One Division But him like yes, I can imagine him in the Young Avengers. He's just so He feels so Isolated still in the show. Where it's like he's still on his own journey, still about magic. It's gonna, I guess he'll get Tommy back at the end and then they'll show up as a tag team at some point.

True. Just none of the other witches, like a lot of them are dying off. They'll be dead by the end of this, but yeah. I don't know. It's like, they're doing a good job with it, but it doesn't feel anything like the MCU to me So it's hard to imagine the crossover the jump happening

It's gonna feel weird when marvel characters are in the mcu almost right. It's just Very part of me wants to watch the finale live now that it i'm telling you just the mortal combat thought has really got me excited But I feel like I have to see this all the way through now because it's like I can't just go in and just get because I basically watch in the previously on and I'd be like, Oh, this is all the stuff Robbie was explaining. There's Rainbow Road, which is Rota, whatever. And I just be going through it. But no, I have to see it through to the end. But no, I think you actually did a really good job. I like the Tarantino style. And it sounds like they are doing some fun little tricks to keep the show fresh Which is like we say a penguin I have to be fair Agatha does it too

And I I do appreciate it even if I'm just hearing about it through your voice and Speaking of skipping to the end of things since we're at the end of this podcast. I think it's it's worth mentioning I've obviously not been the biggest Venom fan, the movies. I think the first one is fine, very watchable, it's okay. I hated the second one. I saw the second one, like I've told the story, opening night, it was actually like a fan screening where Andy Serkis came out in the IMAX Lincoln Square

and gave an intro for the movie and everyone was going nuts. And then it was so bad. I thought I was gonna fall asleep. It was an hour and a half movie, it was a short movie. I thought I was going to fall asleep was an hour and a half movies, a short movie, the loudest in the movie. It was that boring and just rushed and I hated it. I think I'm at the point where I just don't really enjoy the idea of venom solo movies. I like venom as a Spider-Man antagonist. I don't love him as a hero. And that might be sacrilege. I'm sure there's comic fans that would say like, there's a ton of amazing anti hero venom stories. I

just, I'm not the biggest fan. I don't even I love Tom Hardy. I don't love his portrayal. I don't love his Eddie Brock voice. I don't love his venom voice. So Ken Jack called me over to his desk the other day and he said, Hey, I know you're not like crazy concerned about spoilers for venom three. He was watching it. I won't say how he was, hey, I know you're not like crazy concerned about spoilers for Venom 3. He was watching it. I won't say how he was watching it, but he was watching it at his desk. He's like, you wanna watch the final 15 minutes with me?

I said, fuck yeah. We watched it. Oh my God, I really didn't like it. I can't like sit here and talk shit on it and be like, it was horrible cause I watched the final 15 minutes and I didn't really like the franchise going in. But it was a lot of CGI. I'm not going to spoil it because it just came out on Friday. A lot of CGI,

a lot of, obviously it's the end of a trilogy, so they're trying to pull on the heartstrings. And again, I can't criticize that jumping in at the final 15 minutes because maybe the first hour and 15 was really sentimental and emotional and amazing and would have made me cry. But just I was I was stunned by how much I didn't like the final 15 minutes. The point I think I walked away like without seeing if there was even a post credit scene. It was just not for me. Also today as we record this October 29th, three weeks after Joker came out. It's out on digital So I will be watching it before we record the next episode of my mom's basement

And after we're done talking about penguin and Agatha all along I'll talk Joker to we'll finally do the the folio do I think that's the Subtitle thumb subtitle. Nobody calls it Joker folio do everyone's calling the Joker too But yeah, I'm not looking forward to but I'll watch it it's gonna be tough too because I mean it sounds like Agatha has really the chance to have a good finale obviously penguin we are stoked for I don't know if they're gonna be a penultimate show like Thrones or your typical finale episode where that's where the big shit goes boom but I'm pretty sure Joker 2 is going to be the ugly part of the good.

I wouldn't say bad is going to be Agatha, but like the good, the all right. And the ugly pencil and Joker two for the ugly part of those three. Whoa. I can't wait though. I can't wait. Oh, did you see this quote about it today? He had a weird quote about Joker two today. Let me actually pull it up.

I think it was on discussing film. He loved it. He was like all for Joker 2 probably because it's a weird, you know, experimental half musical like, you know, sequel to a billion dollar movie where it's like it is a crazy shot. But here's Tarantino's quote. He said, Todd Phillips is saying fuck you to the movie audience. He's saying fuck you to Hollywood. He's saying fuck you to anybody who owns stock at DC and WB. Todd Phillips is the joker. It's like, I understand from a experimental filmmaker's perspective who came up in the indie scene

doing stuff nobody had ever seen, I understand fuck you to the man. Not sure the sign of a good movie is that it says fuck you to the audience, the stockholders, everyone that sees at some point, like what are you talking about? the studio to like green light me like taking a shit for two hours or whatever. Yeah, that would be saying all the same thing about all that. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So it's like, I don't know, like they made a $200 million courtroom drama that has a few musical numbers in it. Apparently it was just like they wanted to shoot in L.A. on a bunch of sets.

Todd Phillips and Joaquin, I think each got paid 20 million for it. Lady Gaga, I think I paid 12 million for it. Lady Gaga, I think, got paid $12 million for it. It's like, I get the first one made a billion, so you had house money to play with, but bad decisions overall. And then the only other thing I saw today worth mentioning, just made me laugh. Uh, Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania headline came out today. They said they actually did make a profit on it. So don't call it a flop.

They made $88,000 on the movie and net profit of 88,000. So that, there you go. You could fund the next Marvel Pez dispenser or something. I don't know. You can't fund a movie. You can't fund a commercial. You can't fund a short film. 88,000.

Fun fact, the Pez factory is in Connecticut. I believe Orange, Connecticut. I don't know if that's the name of the town. So if you're coming to New Haven, check it out. It's a wonderful place. We took Sienna when she was like three. She loved it and AJ's never been so we have to go back. Oh you can go in? Oh yeah you go in and you can. It's a million different Pez dispensers and they have a little tour. You can see where they make it. It's incredible. It's very, it's not a huge thing. It is a nice little slice of Americana. So check that out.

Who would have loved quantum mania would bring something so good. Now the thing is like $88,000 or irreparable harm to your biggest villain and honestly your entire cinematic universe. I don't know if being a win for Marvel, but that's for them to decide. Not for us, right? Frustrates me that movie still frustrates me because there's still a lot of portions of it that I enjoyed and there's like It was I saw but I saw the good movie in there. I looked at it. Yeah, and I like an x-ray I was like, oh, there's a good movie in that thing

Yeah bothers me. All right, we'll be back next week. We're talking more Penguin. We're talking Agatha all along. We'll finally have a Joker fully I do review for you. And we'll see you then same bad time same bad channel.