My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 392 - THE PENGUIN EPISODE 7

Episode Date: November 4, 2024

Robbie and Clem discuss the PENULTIMATE episode of #ThePenguin, which Dave Portnoy is saying could be the "show of the decade"! Major players are taken out, major players remain, and hype for next week's finale is an all time high. Plus, Robbie describes the #AgathaAllAlong finale (Episodes 8/9) to Clem and they touch on the Basement Bowl/Pup Punk this weekend. Gametime: Download the Gametime app today and use code MMB to easily score great deals with the new Gametime Picks! HelloFresh: Get 10 FREE meals at https://HelloFresh.com/freefox. Applied across 7 boxes, new subscribers only, varies by plan. **************************************** My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike! Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners. You can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement and another Penguin Recap edition of My Mom's Basement and Agatha all along. We had a finale. We'll get to that after The Penguin. It is myself, Robbie Fox, and Clem back again to talk about the best show on TV, a show that our boss, Dave Portnoy, texted me about and called possibly the show of the decade. That's right. Dave texted me this week. The Penguin is possibly the show of the decade. You agree, Clem? I never disagree with the boss, man. I think that is a very bad idea at this company is to disagree with the boss, man. Actively disagree with the boss, man is actually the dumbest thing you could do, but just disagree with the general. So I'll fuck it. I'll sign up to get this company as a disagree with the boss man actively disagree with the boss man is

actually the dumbest thing you can do but just disagree with the general. So I'll **** it. I'll sign up put it as the um like the the YouTube well, either the headline or just the words Penguin show of the decade. Dave Portnoy. Boom.

There it is. Couldn't confirm. I actually had a at some point before I watched the pen ultimate. Let's get fancy with our words here since we're a big enough HBO show. I was going to say this is the best HBO show since and I'm thinking how far back are we going to go? And then like, oh yeah. Succession was like a year or two accounts. House of the dragon. I would put this above House of the Dragon at this point for my own personal

interest in Batman head, but that was definitely really good as well until the end of season two and above House of the Dragon at this point for my own personal interest in Batman head, but that was definitely really good as well until the end of season two when they did the whole friggin' Harrenhal thing. But we don't have to go down that path because we have a great show to talk about here in The Penguin. Another great episode, you mentioned the Penultimate. We love Penultimate episodes here in the basement. And it was a big like, are they going to be the Game of Thrones with it? Where this is is gonna be the big one and we're gonna get the fallout next week Not really but kind of like we need the fallout next week

But there's still enough players in place where it feels like the finale is where everything culminates Yeah, this is I'm trying to like what how to compare to it's like when you're playing like an arcade game And it's like you have a certain amount of like the grenades or the bombs or it's like the power up right star punches for little mac They have they use some this episode they've used some for episode like episode after episode But they still have more and you definitely knew there was there's more in their pocket And there's so many different ways it can go but I still left that episode being like damn Like we are just at this rate, you're just dealing with such a high floor

but also knowing how high the ceiling is. It's it's I'm just so happy we got a show like this, man. It's been a while and hey, song of the song of the decade, show of the decade from Fortnoy. Let's not forget a huge succession guy. Also,

his little sweet green baby. Yo, he's a man and that's in the last decade as well. So, and I, you know, Mandalorian is a good show. It has really great characters that we love. I'm definitely putting this above Mandalorian. And no disrespect to Mando and my sweet little baby yo. I think this clears that for sure. It's definitely, it feels more like prestige TV.

They like using that term prestige TV. This feels more like that than Mando. Even if Luke Skywalker showing up in the Mandalorian brought me more joy than anything this show can bring me. It's like it you take and give as a whole. This is definitely a much better well made show well written show. But Mando has the peaks it has the cheap stuff of like, I don't love anything as much as I love baby yo, which my brother did tell me trick or treating with but Mando has the peaks. It has the cheap stuff of like, I don't love anything as much as I love Baby Yo,

which my brother did tell me, trick or treating with the kids and stuff. He was like a lot less Baby Yo than years past. I said, just wait for that movie to come out and Baby Yo will be back. Like they made it or something. Like they breeded Baby Yo. Oh, I mean, I remember when they revealed Baby Yoda

and like Disney had like no stuff out cause it was such a well-kept secret They had no toys. They know nothing really really ready for market This the movie was just as much about them being like we're going to do this the Disney way now We're like it was like when Toy Story came out and you get Buzz Lightyear that day on the way home from the theater with Woody if you wanted to Baby, oh, you won't be able to it's wanted to. Baby Yo, you won't be able to, it's gonna be like political commercials. You won't be able to turn on a TV,

but that's Baby Yo getting shoved down to your face. So get ready for folks, Baby Yo costumes are gonna be back shit. I might be Baby Yo for Halloween 2020, whenever that movie comes out. So very excited for that. I mean, the Penguin, honestly, the Penguin, the way it all ends here,

the Penguin costume could have been big for Halloween if this had ended maybe a month earlier. Cause I do feel like, like you said, it is spreading around, not just like, Portnoy loves it, our whole office loves it. Friends, family members I talked to who just like got into it, who aren't even Batman people, are like,

no, I heard it was good and holy shit, like I'm hooked. Good TV, prestige TV. God, it feels like this is two sides of me here. This is the basement side of me who's like, thank God we get to cover a show that's this good and fun to review. But then it's also like the, I just love great TV, man. That's, you know, when I first started writing at Barstool,

that's why I love writing Thrones. I'll write succession stuff. I'll write kind of any, if I get hooked to a TV show, I'm obsessed with it. This is kind of right there in the mix too. So it just feels so goddamn good to have one of these back in our lives. Even had nothing to do with the comic book nerdy side of my brain. Let's start breaking it down. I'm eager to talk about it. It's every Sunday night. I want to text you after the episode or after you watch it. But I'm also like, I want to save it for the podcast. I have that like, I want to talk about it right away

because it's that good. We start episode seven, the penultimate episode, Top Hat, with a flashback to Oz's childhood. And right off the bat, I got a shout out to the kid they got to play Oz. He's doing the accent perfectly. He's not cringey as a child actor. The kid, he's even breaking down the episode

in the little post thing they do, like the HBO breaking the episode down with the writers and showrunners. The kid is like, I think Oz made the decisions he made in that moment. I'm like, I'm watching like a 10 year old kid explain the plot of a TV show to me right now. They show Oz and his brothers, the dynamic between them.

Clearly he's jealous of them in a way where it's like the mom gives the thing to Jack, right? And she's like, no, no, no, Jack's gotta handle this. And you could see how his face almost be like, why don't you trust me with that mom? Total mom is boy. And they go and collect some money from Rex Calabrese, who we've heard so much about throughout this show.

We don't know a ton about him other than he was the main momster. He was the one running Gotham back then. And it seems like he almost had Francis cooking his books for him. You get that vibe. She's like, you got to give Rex's book back to him. But it was kind of like, it looked like an accounting notebook or something. I get the vibe. He's cooking the books for him and he's paying her off a little bit on the

side. Yeah. Francis is a full-time at the earliest part-time employee of Rex. She had that she's a numbers girl, handles her business for him. And again, you said it with the kids, I immediately got the same kind of vibes where it was like, you could sense, it's like, this is like, I love my mom. You guys are just kind of like, this is my, you know, he's a mama's boy. He's definitely a mama's boy. And you can sense how much he kind of like loans his brothers. I see with my kids where,'re fighting over, especially mom.

But occasionally, even dad gets in the mix too, usually because they want to play video games with me. But there is that sibling rivalry. But it's like, hey, usually that stops to a point. You just don't have a sociopath as one of the siblings in this. I thought AJ might have been a little Oz as he's growing up. I've realized he doesn't really have that bone in him. But man, you can just see in his face.

It's like, and I'm sure Oz has some serious shit. He has obviously the leg. He just seems like more of a shut in than the other two. And clearly the oldest is the favorite. That's her dude right there, you know? And he's jealous of him. The kid doing the limp is spot on with Colin Farrell. Like the way he actually waddles him, like, holy shit. And he's got the brace on his leg. And that's clearly when they're walking, he's

always walking a little bit behind him. They have to go deliver the book to Rex. And he says to Rex like, Hey, Rex, nice seeing you. His brother tells him to watch his mouth. Are we getting the vibe that Rex might be his dad, that maybe Rex knocked up Francis and he's also out with the money because those are his kids. And maybe even Oz knows that. And that's why he said to Rex, like, nice seeing, like, I was like, hey, nice seeing your kids, right?

And his son is like, hey, shut up. Yeah. There's something up there. And they said, I don't think they alluded to the dad being gone, but then it's like, was he ever there? I don't really know. Also shout out to gone, but then it's like, you know, was he ever there? I don't really know. Also shout out to, to mama Cobb.

She puts it together. She had, you know, she hasn't seen her with her fast ball back in there. I'm like, all right, lady. I could see it. But actors do. Another one where I was like, oh, I can totally see her as the young Francis that worked.

And we made a big stink about this with Acolyte and let's be honest, a bunch of the Star Wars franchises. And now to see this on the other end of the spectrum with the Penguin, the kid actors, they nailed it. Like there are such things as good kid actors. So if we criticize where some of these shows, it's like that kid actor, like I don't want to be mean, but it just, it kind of ruins the scene. Not always the kids fault either, you know, I'm sure it's the directing, here's the editing. I'm sure it's the writing.

It's like you got to write for a kid. You can't write adult dialogue for a kid and expect them to deliver it well. You got to work with the actors, I'm sure. Make it sound like it's in their voice. But everything came together for it in this. Or you get to the scene where they go out down into the sewers and they're playing.

And you're like, oh, this is, you know, why he chose the sewers, I guess. And then it's like, oh, this is why he chose the sewers, I guess. And then it's like, oh, this is why he chose the sewers? Because a Clem prediction that he said on the podcast two weeks ago came very true in devastating fashion. They go down to the sewers. It's raining. You could tell it's a real stormy Gotham night.

And when they go down the ladder, Oz takes it as an insult, almost as if you're making fun of my disability because And when they go down the ladder, Oz takes it as an insult, almost as if like you're making fun of my disability because I can't go down the ladder. He starts going down and gets nervous. He goes back up, shuts the sewer door on him and goes home without any remorse, leaves him to die. Realizing like where his brothers are,

he lies to his mom, says they're at the movies. And then just has that smile as he's watching the program on television with the top hats and the they're all wearing like the penguin suit basically. That's where you got a sense of fashion from. But a haunting, haunting 10 minute intro that really like again, they took you to a flashback. So you almost feel like, oh, but get on with the main story where we left on a cliffhanger. But it's so good that you don't think that you're just like,

holy fuck, he did kill his brothers. And it's like the way he snuggles up with his mom, the way he looks out that window where you just keep hearing about the rain, you see how much rain has gathered. And it's like, if you're a kid, now, granted, I don't, I didn't live near drain pipes or the fuck sewers or whatever, but I don't know if it resonated in his mind, hey, my brothers could be drowning right now. Or he's just like good fuck them because i'm thinking

like oh they're just gonna get out the other way and come home being like fuck you Oz why did you do it to us maybe he thought there was another way and maybe he's just like i don't care uh it's it's chilling and again this dude might just be one of those people that has no feelings towards other humans and doesn't feel bad that he killed his brothers and maybe wanted to or is like, hey, whatever happens to him happens, I don't know. But again, the way he had said initially, with that innocuous, the city took him,

was kind of like, there was something up with Oz, Susslist number one and Susslist like confirmed, big green check mark next to that one, just an awful, terrible human being kills his brothers and how it all you know obviously impacts his mom down the road but it's like at the same time like his mom has the odds in her too my big strong bull and fuck him I'll be tap dancing on your grave like I love the way he says the mom. We'll reassess to her later on, not to skip ahead, but she's like, hey, he didn't have a dad around.

He had to be raised by somebody, right? Like she was the fire that he was fucking forged in and she's still the one pushing it of like, you better become a kingpin for me. You better do this. You better do what it takes. It's her. Like she's kind of the puppet master behind the strings.

If he Oz is fucking Jason Voorhees, she's the mom doing of the puppet master behind the strings if if he Oz is fucking Jason Voorhees she's the mom doing all the creepy shit in the shed. Yes, great call It doesn't just have to be horror movies where the mom, you know makes the kid the man He is today it's could be gangster stuff too And I think Tony's mom and sopranos is a much different version of that Tony's in the life already because of his dad But the mom definitely fucked with his brain enough in a whole other slew of ways. Two other things I wanted just to note. One, you said this about the Penguin. I don't think you said it on the pod though, but what did you say out of the Star Wars universe that a show from the Star Wars universe could have been the Penguin if it had been done correctly. Oh, remember the the Reddit thread there was a like a Reddit thing that said this is what the Book of Boba Fett should have been and it hurt me to read that because I was like

ah fuck I keep trying to defend the Book of Boba Fett with the school when he rode the rancor what about when he dropped the seismic charge in the Sarlacc pit but reading that I was just like oh fuck, fuck, this is what the Book of Boba Fett could have been. This show, rising the kingpin, doing fucked up shit, making him a little bit likable, but also a little bit like, I don't even know if I could trust this guy. There are so many things this show did right that the Book of Boba Fett did wrong. Even the flashback sequences were interesting. Like, this is the show that should have been so, yeah, that pissed me off.

And think about it, like the way Boba Fett was raised by his bounty hunter dad and all the stuff with the clones and there's some weird shit he could have really dug up there and then even Rex and the way he's looked at is what Boba Fett, I think kind of they could have made it where it's like, you're Looked at as the cool gangster of the town and instead they made him this like like neither It made him not cool or bad. It's made him an arc. Yeah, it was the book of boba. Narc

Yeah, it was it was crazy And then the other thing I just shout out was they had two references for the 80s kids out there one was Moms like where did what movie they go to? He's like, I don't know Beet Beetlejuice. And she's looking in the paper, Bob, God's honest truth. I'd say you could look at my Google search results. I don't want anyone to look at my Google search results. Even my guy here, my brother, my basement brother. But I looked up the other day, movie, newspaper movie times. Cause I just wanted to see what it looked like.

Cause I remember it vividly and just the feeling you would get when you're looking like, Oh man, like I can get out of the house and I could be there at 620 and I just love the way it looked and Shouting up Beetlejuice, obviously, you know very fun movie And then she's they're talking about we can play double dragon for you know days if we had that $50 man Double dragon is a good fuck great arcade game. Tell me Bob Fox, did you ever play Double Dragon growing up? Oh man. I have no memories of playing Double Dragon. I do have memories of looking in the newspaper

for movie times though. Like when I was really little, when I'd get dropped off my aunt Laura's or something, my uncle Brian would be like, hey, pick a movie. We'll go to the movies or something. I would pull out the newspaper and look at it. We were just talking about that in the office the other day. Cause like one of New Jersey's main newspapers, The Star Ledger,

is closing. I was like, ah, damn, I have good memories of reading movie times and that. Speaking of the Beetlejuice connection, just the Batman connection, my brother texted me this picture yesterday. Really weird, but Voodoo is trying to capitalize on the current Beetlejuice hype

by changing the Tim Burton Batman posters to current Beetlejuice hype by changing the Tim Burton Batman posters to look Beetlejuice. Wow. Isn't that weird? That is very weird, but I kind of- You're like, hey, you like Beetlejuice? Maybe you like this Tim Burton shit. And they're right.

If you do like, if you like one Tim Burton thing, you'll probably like another. Yeah, I think all Beetlejuice fans are probably fans of the timber and Batman's, but not all timber and Batman fans are fans of Beetlejuice. If that makes sense, probably right about that, you know, but I like the fact that you have

people in there who are kind of just itching to create a brains and kind of remixing stuff up. It's like they're just got these names. Matt Ferguson, he does the yeah Guardian he does a lot of posters and he did Guardians of the Galaxy One two and three and it's New Hope Empire and return of the Jedi where he does those pose those iconic posters But remixes with all the Guardians characters. It is fucking not check that guy I mean, he's a fucking that guy's an awesome follow-up been following him for years amazing poster artists

Back to the penguin Oz gets home in real time That guy's an awesome follow-up. Been following him for years. Amazing poster artist. Back to the Penguin, Oz gets home in real time. This is the current modern day story. Vic is knocked out and Francis is gone. We saw at the end of the last episode, Sofia was in there with the crowbar. And Oz decides, I gotta take this head on. They got my mom, so I'm staying here for it.

But shoves Vic out the window through the fire escape. Sal comes in, starts kicking the shit out of him with a golf club, just having that like, yeah, now I got you where I want you and it ain't so great for you Oz. I don't have any security guards holding me back. I don't have any shackles on me. Sophia and Francis, meanwhile, have an intense conversation, an intense face off. She tells him like, my son is going to kill you. She's got confidence.

She's not nervous at all until she's reminded of her boys. And then she snaps into an episode and she starts getting worried. Where are they? They should have been home by now. And Sophia, just like you suspected, does have a little sympathy for her. This could be Sophia's demise or downfall that she does have a little sympathy for her. This could be Sophia's did demise or downfall that she does have a little sympathy. She showed it here.

She showed it later on with Gia in the episode. So she kind of feels it and then kind of snaps out of it when she gets smacked in the face by Francis. He's like, fuck away from me or whatever. Really good scene though. Another one where it's like the acting on this show is just next level. This cast had, they had the chemistry,

they locked in place and it all fit. Mama Cobb, I have one word for her. Spunk. Tell me that woman is the definition of spunk. Holy shit. And like Oz, we've talked about it in this series, even in the Batman where I saw his El Rata quote was going back on Twitter, and just the way he acts,

even the back up, you got plenty of room where he'll say that after he wants to rip your nose off with pliers. And it is just, I mean, she is the perfect matriarch for an absolute psychopath like this. And I also have to say, just the I mean, she is the perfect matriarch for an absolute psychopath like this. And I also have to say, like, just the things like, you're gonna get an ass tattoo, like, that's such a, and I don't wanna, I don't wanna seem like the hard-o Northeasterner, but like, that's,

you would hear something like that from like a fucking New Yorker on the side of the street, like it's a New York, New Jersey, Northeastern kind of thing, and this woman just crushed that fucking roller, the writing crushed it a little bit, I also wouldn't mind, the Pretty pink hair. Then Sal brings Oz back to his own operation underground. And he tells them all, like, hey, if you need a quick adjustment period, make it be now, because I'm taking over. So I'll be the one signing your checks now.

This is mine. And Penguin gives one of his guys the signal, cuts the power. They get into a big scuffle, a big fight, power struggle. Penguin and Moroni are in the bus. They're fighting. big scuffle, big fight, power struggle, Penguin and Maroni are in the bus, they're fighting, Maroni's got the upper hand, and all of a sudden, just like Batman and the Dark Knight returns, he gets cardiac arrest, he goes into a heart attack, starts wheezing, falls backwards, and at first Penguin is almost like, no, not like this, like I don't want to win like this. He just falls backwards and Penguin goes, no, no, no, no, no. And he's like, fuck, fuck, what the fuck? And the way he stands up and says, he's like, the fuck cracked me up.

His voice cracks as he's saying it. And then he snaps into this, like, as he's saying no, no, no, no, no. And you're like, is he upset about this? He just stands over Moroni. He's like, I got you. I fucking win. I won. I got you Sal Stands over him again, and then that camera angle they chose Sideways you see Moroni and then he just starts firing bullets into his body and the camera shaken with every bullet What a fucking scene every week. They're giving you at least one. Oh fuck moment I didn't think I wrote the blog last week on the most likely characters to die I had him towards the bottom of the list in main characters because I'm thinking they're bringing in a new commissioner or a district attorney in the new the Batman 2. It's got to be Harvey.

Maybe they want to go with the comic accurate Moroni with the acid in the face at the court trial. But no, Salvatore Moroni, rest in peace. RIP. Well, I don't know about it. I shouldn't say in peace. I shouldn't say in peace. Rest in hell, rest in piss. Rest in piss is always a good one. I don't think people say that about their enemies. I think we said Moroni's biggest weakness for making it to the Batman 2 was his like age

and the fact all the Falcons are gone. So they might just say, hey, reset. We're not gonna worry about what your traditional Batman, you know, gangster universe looks like. We're going young blood here and dying of heart attack, you know, as an old man, I think that kind of just checks out as like a good way to kind of like say, hey, it's over.

And I, I, this is like, this is like, this might speak a little bit about my kind of like say, hey, it's over. And I, I, this is like, this is like, this might speak a little bit about my kind of like sick and twisted mind. I talk about like lucky number seven and how I love revenge porn kind of fucking, not revenge porn, but like revenge movies is could be like porn. If you want to just see someone suffer that you like,

you know, kind of wronged you. I was thinking like, I love how the penguin was like, look at me, I did this to you. of like I won not you is like I'm gonna be the last thing you see Yes, and then he was like and fuck this I'm getting my bullets in this guy that I wanted to get he was probably dreaming Of for years let alone as he was getting his ass kicked with a fucking one wood And I just love that he fucking unloaded in him unload the clip Yeah, it's hard to like look like a badass in front of your like henchmen, too I'm like, I'm gonna kick in one wood and I just love that he **** unloaded in him. Unload the clip. Yeah, it's

hard to like look like a badass in front of your like henchmen too. If you're like, oh yeah, the guy had a heart attack. He broke. He's gonna kick my **** and I was gonna die. You have to just make it seem like uh you won the fight the old

fashioned way and yeah throws the ring on. I'm like, oh, we're bringing the ring all the way back now. I'm gonna give another chef's kiss to I mean another old fuck scene. We just keep him rolling here and Clancy Brown shout out classy Clancy Brown great performances Salvatore Maroney really gave him like a Different vibe usually you get Sally's like hey And Clancy was more fucking you got to be afraid of me because I'm a large Human being who can fold you into

a box if I want to or you know, if he's having his heart attack, he can't but it makes sense to go to the box right after his son and his wife burn up in the fashion they did he escapes prison after getting stabbed like guy was stressed. He had a stressful week for sure. And Sophia goes to visit Gia the little girl girl who was, I don't know if I would say she was threatening to talk to the cops, but Julian had heard that she was going to talk to the cops about something she saw that night. Wines up being that she saw the gas mask in Sofia's backpack. Sofia just sits her down and is like, listen, your mommy and daddy and our whole family, they were very bad people and you should be happy that they're dead I'm very happy that they're dead and has that harsh talk with her in there

But when she leaves clearly feel sympathy for her she breaks down in tears against the wall of like oh my god What did I do to this little fucking girl then gets the call from Oz where it's like? She she it's from sales phones. She answers like what's up Sally's like sales dead How does that sound and he makes this deal with her where he's like listen? I know you want to kill me, but you want the operation more than anything you want power more than anything I will give you everything if you give me my mom unharmed not a hair on you know untouched on her head, whatever She's she knows it's a trap. She tells Julian, but she's like, whatever, we're making the deal. It's a trap from her end as well, because she sends in a car, they do this whole scene,

the car comes in, you can't see anyone in the car, so you got to be thinking right away this could be a trap. It's a trap! It is a trap. She calls them and they hit you with a little silence at the lamps, like you think they're in the same location, but they're in different locations. She's in daylight and there's a car bomb in there. Car bomb goes off.

Not only destroys, I would say their operation in the sewers, but we see the overhead angle, like almost a helicopter style angle. It destroys a big portion of Gotham, a big intersection, gone. And they use this to show another flashback of the night penguin took his mother out dancing The story he told Sophia earlier in the season and how she was kind of like you got to make something of yourself You got to support me now and then they take you back to him being taken out some guy

You know above the wreckage of the rubble. It's like oh, it's the penguin. He's like the fuck. Did you call me? It's like Sophia wants to see you the penguin. He's like, the fuck did you call me? It's like Sophia wants to see you. Boom. Another cliffhanger to end the episode. And another moment where you got to ask, where the fuck's Batman? So, first of all, I think we talked about this earlier. We didn't realize the spelling and this and that. We can officially brand her Sophia with an F, because that was a F fucking move right there badass as fuck is what it was. The entire plan you're hoping you're like all right is she like still a little softy? No no no no no no no she has learned her lessons from this show and Penguin in peak penguin form isn't like, hey,

boys run. He just fucking scurries himself out after they fucking were ready to tool up. They got their guns. I got, you know, I, I, I may not be a huge army, but it's all I need. I love you guys and then see you. I'm just going to jump into

the place where I deserted my literal brothers, you know, years ago, fucking penguin man. What a penguin is a rat. I don't care what they fucking said to the Batman. The penguin is a rat. I don't care what they **** said in the Batman. The Penguin is a **** right himself, right? I forgot that he went into the actual sewer door where his brothers

died to shield himself. That was like George Lucas says, it's like poetry rhymes. Yeah. And I believe the word the the phrase I use which might have been incorrect but I said the pregnant pause when he looked at Gotham Water Company and I

thought it's because he was gonna you know he knew we had access to Gotham Gotham Water Supply. That was way wrong. That was just a sewer thing. It's clearly because you know that's gonna have bliss on the underground completely running it just like, you know, the Penguin in Batman Returns. He has, you know, he's gonna be the criminal underlord of literally the underground and Batman is gonna be looking for an enemy who's not even above ground for the most part. Nope. Turns out that is all completely gone, which is another thing I love about this show. They keep us fucking moving. They never let us get too set in our ways and sit and be like this is the status quo Everything is changing every single episode I feel if we watch episode if we do a full rewatch from one to the finale We're gonna be like, holy shit

Like this is this change even more than we realized because every week we thought we were getting settled in and they just keep Us on our feet the entire time. I appreciate that. I'm also gonna go to bat I can't believe I'm the one on the podcast right now doing this. I'm going to go to bat for our I'm going to go to bat for our Batman for lack of a better term. I think there's been some crazy shit that's happened, but it's been kind of contained in the mob world where I don't think Batman can really like worry about every like little shootout that kills two or three criminals.

This is a massive one though. This is a big one. I mean, the ground is caved in. caved in. And like, there's probably not a lot that's going to get him. Like you said, he was concussed, took a shotgun point blank range at the end of the Batman, seawall collapsing, God knows the casualties and human just catastrophe that's going on in Gotham right now. I think when the street implodes and then when you see what scene was underground, it's going to be like, all right, the man with the cowl has to come take care of business here. So I will say there's been a lot of where's Batman.

I don't, I think those were unfounded unfair requests until now man better be showing up doesn't have to be in the episode but by the end of the episode it has to go on his to-do list like top three top three of the to-do list is like figure out why was it crown point is that yeah crown point yeah why the street collapsed with an explosion in Crown Point, leaving a bunch of people dead and a drug operation. I think he has to put in the top three on his to do list at that point. I mean, at the very least, Commissioner Gordon is running around the GCPD looking for the bat phone, just being like, where the fuck is he? We need help. Half the cops here corrupt anyway. Gordon's getting no help. He's got to make the call to the bullpen get the bat in here

Some people have suggested could the final shot of the entire series be the Gotham You know you show penguin rising to power and then you pan out to the Gotham night sky and the fucking bat signal hits That would be pretty badass that be a way to do it where Batman doesn't like overtake or overshadow the show, but it just reminds you, hey, we're calling in Bat next. This is the next guy to deal with this threat. That would be pretty bad ass. I agree. And it would also say, hey, the Penguin has now made it

to the point in power where Batman needs to be called because traditional methods cannot stop the man. And that would be like maybe the final like the, you know, welcome to the NFL moment. That's just like welcome to the Gotham throne of the criminal underworld moment. It's like we now have to use the bat signal to deal with you. So people pointed out on Reddit as well.

When he thinks he got away from Batman and the chase in the movie, I think he says, I got him, I got him, I got her, I got you, I got you. He's so confident and that might be like a catchphrase of sorts for the Penguin now, because he says it to Sal when he thinks he, he did kind of kill him, but he's taking the credit for it. He might be an I got you guy, just always I got you,

and then he gets got. I kind of like that. I would like that a lot. Um, you, you, you sent me a couple through text of one of them, including our guy, heavy spoilers. And then there was someone else, a couple of people who got sneak peeks of the finale and they're like, but heavy spoilers called it brilliant. Anytime a British person used the word brilliant. I'll a little more. It means a little more. It's a little more from them than it does from us. I'm excited about it.

There was a little sliver of me being like, shit, I've recommended everyone this show now. Dave's Calling It Show, the decade, I've got everyone in the office watching it. They better stick the landing because if they don't, it's going to be one of those, you know, House of the Dragon last season. People look at the whole season differently because of the way the finale was. So I was worried. Now my worries are set aside. Like I don't think we got anything to worry about next week. Yeah. Yeah. The B word went a long way with me and I think we're, I think we're, we're

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We love Game Time. We love them. And I'm sorry to bring up, you know commanders giants But it's not been the greatest season for the Giants. I'm sure it's not like Year, you're devastated. It's not the worst season ever for the Giants. It's just at this point. I am um Indifferent like you want to take bank or no, it's like I don't even care anymore It doesn't matter what I want doesn't matter. I wanted them to tank last year against the Patriots They won we would add Jayden Daniels in New York if they had lost that game, you know

it's like could I drink mate we didn't and As I saw the command as they saw the commander's tattoo I was like fuck I was like he had the commanders and I'm like and I'm wearing a big blue sweatshirt This is the worst part and we'll get this is a very quick into the sports corner of the base. Yeah, this is the worst part about the Giants now that hurts me and the thing is the Giants have given me four championships in my lifetime, three that I remember, two that were at the time I thought the greatest sports memory I'd ever get and one of them which will probably be the Patriots 18 and all is going to be nothing. Almost nothing will be able to top that. So I'm fine with like the Giants.

And it's like if they're going to just piss me off, I'm just indifferent, whatever. I've covered them for 10 years at Bard School and it's been almost just nothing but crap. This is the problem, Bob. And you don't have to experience this yet. And I hope you never do in one sense. AJ wakes up on Sunday morning.

It's like, dad Giants today, Giants today. Oh, Giants are going to win today. And when it's like a game like yesterday, where it's like a three point spread and it and it's like whatever like maybe they can win That's cool. But when he does this and it's like a ten-point spread or it's just a game I know they're gonna get washed and I'm just like this poor kid has no idea what's coming and if I tell him no, dude Listen giants might not want to he's not the Giants are gonna like he has that belief in him and It's been beat out of me even as the positive Giants fan or I try to be one of the positive fans here at our school and

He just has it in him and I don't even know it like I just see the look in his eyes and the thing is God knows how many Washington fans grew up and had that look and then I said the PFT at the at the pop-punk show I am legitimately happy you guys have Jaden Daniels. I consider Commander's fans and Nick's fans kinda like brothers in arms. We had these tyrannical owners who would just ruin everything for us, no matter what.

Yours is gone, ours is somehow been like shoot to the side. And I am like legitimately happy just cause you guys are in it with us and I don't have hatred in my heart towards Washington like I do with the Cowboys and Eagles. That like, hey manaden Dale's fucking awesome. I just love watching awesome. It's fun to watch Washington football But I've only been able to see that one other time in my life for like a couple months in 2012

It is fun. Like I'm wearing victory Monday hats. I'm getting excited about wins. It's crazy. That's the dream right there, dude. And we've all had different athletes in our life who were young and fun and great. And again, like Daniel Snyder with the way he treated the field is part of the reason RG3,

that entire experiment just went to crap. So it's like, if he's gone, you figure they're gonna take care of this kid the right way. And he's just fucking, again, I was gonna- Quinn, Quinn, Quinn, Quinn, we're Quinn-ing. Yeah, you're Quinn-ing, you figure they're gonna take care of this kid the right way and he's just fucking again, I was We're quitting. Yeah, you're quitting. You're quitting you have and like it's one of those weird things with football You just understand it's like it's like the players they have it's not like everyone just they just got all these great players It's like but even the defense is getting better and it's just when I think a team believes in someone they can just and you start You start winning and then you have like a fucking miracle. Hail Mary. That's when the magical shit happens.

That was awesome. This Met season made no sense. It's like we had all these guys who were not great. We had a couple great, you know, very good players and it's like, but when it starts rolling man, it's stuff that makes sports fun. So, but when it goes the other way as the Giants fans can attribute, it's just like at this point, it's like I don't even, they are on the small TV, muted. And on the big TV,

I don't have like the red zone on the big TV or like the game of the week. I have the multi view of four other games on the big TV and the giants get like, you know, the odds cop. If I had kids, the odds cop TV, just a little shit TV, the little jerk of the family. Before we get into Agatha all along, episodes eight and nine, last week I said there was only going to be eight, I didn't realize two-part finale this week. Before we get into it,

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the finale. I'll count both of these as the finale since they came out together, two-part finale. And I'm ready to say, after the last couple of weeks of saying, pretty good episode, pretty good episode, pretty good episode, they land at the plane. Pretty good finale to the point where I would say, pretty good show.

Like, Agatha all along, I did not think would be a show for me in the beginning. It wasn't really a show for me, but it was still enjoyable enough where I wasn't mad that I watched the show I was kind of looking forward to it by the end when episode 8 ended this week I was like, oh my god, we have to watch episode 9. It was actually interesting Episode 8 ended in such a way that felt like a finale the penultimate That I thought I picked the wrong episode like I said to my fiance like did we watch episode 9?

thought I picked the wrong episode. Like I said to my fiance, like, did we watch episode nine? How are they going to do an episode after this? So it was a, it was a cool, almost Thrones esque in this way. Episode eight was the big one. Episode nine was kind of the epilogue. Okay. So yeah, very thrones in that, in that way, which is fine. We heard good things going into it and I'm happy they delivered. Uh I I have to also say to the people that watched Agatha, um I think

there's a little bit of revisionist history that this show is known as going to be a hit or it was a hit from day one and everyone should be hopping on board. I I based on my reviews with Rob and what I was reading online throughout

the weeks. like let's let's call it what it was. It got hot at the end. It didn't, it wasn't like Daniel's week one. Yes. It was a second. No, I liked the first episode, but I was, I don't want to say I was in the minority, but even people here at Barstow was talking to Gia and Kelly. I think they didn't love the first episode and then loved it as it progressed. I liked the first episode a lot. Didn't really like the next maybe two or maybe three. And then by the time you started doing the Billy backstory, we learned a little bit more about why Billy exists

and he looks a little bit different now. Everything from that point on, I thought was pretty fucking good, pretty gripping. And I was like, all right, I'm down for this. Aubrey Plaza was great. Catherine Hahn was great. Billy by the end, I didn't love him in the beginning. Catherine Hahn was great. Billy by the end. I didn't love him in the beginning. I thought he was pretty good by the end. Joe, Joe Locke, I

think his name is maybe I could be wrong about that. Let's get into it. Episode eight begins by showing Alice the hot topic, which who died a couple of weeks ago, we show her meeting death when she died. So she like sees Rio, Aubrey Plaza, and she's got some like prosthetics on her face. She looks a little skull-esque, but she's lit dark in the shadows. You can't really tell at first. And Alice is just like, oh no, no.

Like I just broke the curse. This can't be it. This is it. This is all the time I get. And that's a big theme is all the time you get, all the time death gives you. So they showed death taking her away and then they cut back to the witch's road and death realizes that Billy's soul entering this

boy that died happened and she's like he cheated death and accuses Agatha of hiding this from her. She's like I see the way you look at that boy and Agatha's like I don't care about that boy you're wrong about me I'll make sure that that boy. And Agatha is like, I don't care about that boy. You're wrong about me. I'll make sure that that boy sacrifices himself to you to correct the course of all of this, as long as I never have to see your face again. I don't even want to see your face when I die. And she says like hundreds of years from now or whatever.

So they make this deal. All right, if you bring me the boy, you don't have to see my face. They continue along the witch's road without Rhea, without death, and realize at this point, it's just Agatha Billy and Jennifer kale one of the other witches just three of them left They see their shoes from the beginning so like fuck we just walked in a circle and

Nothing happened and you're starting to think is this a Wizard of Oz situation is the witch's road real Is there something you get at the end? Or is it just a fucking wizard behind the curtain? Billy then Wines up and with Agatha and Jennifer in like a futuristic version of Agatha's basement It's very strange, but they're only it almost looks like they're on Like in a morgue. Do you call that a morgue when it's like bodies in a thing you pull them out?

It's like bodies and shelves. Yeah, when they have the bodies of the carpet, you have to identify them. I always I always wondered if they're in the morgue. I think it's in the morgue. Yeah, so we'll say that. Yeah, so it looks like that a little futuristic. They're in it. Eventually they get to the point where Billy is like trying to reincarnate his brother, he's trying to conjure up the energy to put

his brother's soul into a boy, and is going through the morality of like, he sees a boy drowning in his head. And he's like, Am I killing this boy to put my brother's soul into him? Or am I just putting my brother's soul into a boy who's dying and it's an interesting like oh Fuck is he making the decision to kill someone right now to get his brother back and he sees it whatever You never I don't think we've ever got like a clear answer on whether or not he did kill a boy to do this and Eventually, he reveals his full costume, the Wiccan costume. I don't know if you saw pictures of it online. It looks very comic accurate.

He's got the red kind of cape robe, the blue jumpsuit. He's got the red. And in the moment, for the first time ever at the end of episode eight, he's able to talk to Agatha through telepathy, which he's been closed off from the whole time So he kind of like pleads to her. I think I'm remembering all this right And she makes a sacrifice for him. So when she's like hey death look I brought you Billy and he's ready to sacrifice himself

She is a change of heart last minute and she grabs Aubrey Plaza and just starts making out with her of heart last minute and she grabs Aubrey Plaza and just starts making out with her. But when you kiss death, all the energy from yourself is sucked away and she kind of floats up Agatha dead, dead in episode eight. And then Billy like gets in his car Subaru, which I think is a joke because they say Subaru is like a gay car gets in his car drives off and I and Jennifer kale also got away. She's like one of the witches that got away. Jennifer kale also the cousin of ghost rider. So if they want to bring ghost rider and at some point you connected it that way. She gets off flies away and it felt like that's the end of the series. Like Agatha is dead.

She sacrificed herself to death. What can you do from here? The finale took it in a different direction, but also, oh, I'm forgetting this big cliffhanger at the end. He goes in the Subaru, he goes home, goes back to his room, and then he starts looking around. He sees a Wizard of Oz poster, and he sees a poster for the Witch's Road, and he sees a poster for this. And you start thinking, wait a minute, everything you saw on the Witch's Road. And he sees a poster for this. And you start thinking, wait a minute, everything you saw on the Witch's Road was something you're into and have posters of in your room?

Clem, big twist, he created the Witch's Road. The Witch's Road is not real. The entire time Agatha knew it, he created it just like Wanda created WandaVision. It was Wiccan's memory all along? It was Wiccan all along? Is that correct? It was Wiccan all along? It was Wiccan all along. So that was, it feels like the episode ends before that moment and then he's in his room looking around and you're like oh fuck but then at the very end of that episode he hears what

sounds like Agatha's voice like in his head. And that's what happens in Wizard of Oz too where you have this whole thing and then she wakes up and it's you were there you were there and Alright, I'm a little confused. Now. This is the thing. I also didn't like look I I thought I had heard about Wiccan even lady death there if you told me she was in the show It's like I'm not gonna look at what these people look like cuz I might get spoilers now that it's over I looked at Lady Death. That's kind of weird. I

don't know how it looked on the screen but the pictures. Okay. Wiccan Wiccan looks so right people. It sounds like people are losing their mind. They loved it. I don't I didn't know Wiccan as a comic book reader. I was losing my mind over him.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm also like, again, loved Wanda, liked Vision, loved the whole dynamic and Infinity War and Endgame, I guess just Infinity War, loved that, obviously, WandaVision. I'm kind of like, I don't need, I'm not dying for these new characters to enter the universe. Looks fine enough, though, as someone who doesn't follow all that the whole Wizard of Oz twist though. I like that Okay. Okay. So we're doing also in just Dying via kiss of death pretty badass shout out to Agatha metal pretty metal Nali where they explain Agatha's true backstory with her son There was a moment where I think it was Rio Aub Aubrey Plaza death, who said to her like,

and why do you let them say those things about you and your son? Almost as if like, wait a minute, is that story about her giving up her baby for the dark hold not true? Is that the legend of Agatha Harkness? It is the legend of Agatha Harkness and it is not true. We open finale and I think it's 1750,

Agatha running through the woods pregnant, clearly about to give birth and her child is like about to die in childbirth. As soon as she's giving birth, death walks out from behind a tree and is like, I'm ready to take them. And she's like, please, please no, give me more time. At this point, I think they were already a thing, Agatha and Death, they were already acquainted. So she begs her for more time. And she says, time is the only thing I can give you. That's it, more time.

So they show us through the years, Agatha raising her kid, Nikki. And Nikki starts singing as they're running through the forest one day, down, down, down the the road down the windy road which is exactly as the witches road went it was down down down the road down the witches road Agatha takes this song has him go perform it at bars and stuff and then finds witches brings them into the woods and says we have to sing this

song to start a spell she would sing the song with the witches and then start scolding them, being like, you guys are horrible at this. You guys ruined it. To the point where they would use their powers on her, she would suck all their powers out and continue to live her life through the hundreds of years. So the witches road song,

which was such a continuous thing through Agatha all along, was it all, it was a trap that Agatha set, that was her son's song that she would use to kill witches and whatnot. And she's revealed to have done this through hundreds of years, and she doesn't want to die and doesn't want death to take her. And that's why she made the agreement with death in the last episode. I don't even want to see you when I die, she can't face her son, knowing that she killed so many people like in his name almost. Her son died just of a cough, like sickness, not a cough, but started coughing, then got sick years later and just died because death could only give them time. She couldn't make it so the son wasn't going to die. But she gave Agatha a couple more years. And then they cut back to Billy's room at the end of the last episode. Agatha is there as a force ghost. So she didn't see death. So she didn't like cross over that plane to death.

She's there as a ghost and she's got gray hair, which Agatha in the comics is an old woman. So she actually looks a little more comic accurate. And she comes back for her brooch, which Agatha in the comics is an old woman. So she actually looks a little more comic accurate and she comes back for her brooch, which is another thing Agatha's always wearing in the comics, and she's able to grab it. So even as a ghost, she's able to like touch stuff and affect things. And they go through this whole thing where it gets a little sentimental and Billy tells her, you know, your child would forgive you even if he knew what you did. And he goes back down to the basement where they created the Witch's Road and he goes back down to the basement where they Created the witches road and he draws like the satanic fucking circle thinks about banishing her But doesn't banish her and then this series ends with them searching for Tommy. They're like, alright, let's go find Tommy together

Billy and force goes to Agatha. I don't know if they'll do another season of this I think it was pretty successful in terms of streaming numbers I could be wrong But I did see like a decent amount of chatter on it on twitter and I feel like that's a good indicator of things generally I was surprised the series ended with them searching for Tommy Because I thought that's what the whole series was about So that was my only thing where i'm like i'm okay with it But it feels like we were all the whole time being like eventually eventually you're going to get to this Tommy search, right?

And they got to it at the end. So I don't know if they'll do a season two. I mentioned it feels weird that we're going to take these characters and put them in the MCU, even though they're already in the MCU. Just feels so disconnected and so different than what we've seen. But again, overall, a good show, I would say my personal taste, I would give it like a B minus. It was overall a lot more enjoyable

than like a secret invasion. I would put it on the same level as a Miss Marvel. I would say two shows I wasn't the target audience for that I found decently enjoyable. And they didn't hit the mark every week. They had a few episodes where I was so, so on it, but as a whole, good stuff. We'll take that, right?

We'll take that just as Marvel fans, as someone, as people that want to see the universe expand. Again, not for us, but like, I think when, when, what is it? Franchises hit a certain peak, it's good that you're expanding and you're getting stuff for the little kids And you keep aging up aging up and then for the fucking people in the basement who are gonna say worst thing ever

Gotting stuff for them, too. So I have to have everyone happy. So um Bob I gotta be honest. I thought you did tremendous job explaining this if I rewatch the entire if I read watch the entire thing It might come out completely different. I don't know, but I think this was a fair way to go about it. We gave it the Love I think it deserved it got something but like let's be like and someone who hasn't seen one of them like I think It's heavyweight verse lightweight with this a penguin. All right, then when it's not even close. It's like With all due respect Agatha all along it's like hard to even call that a television show when you watch the Penguin It's like oh that was the cute Disney plus thing and we'll watch the real show on Sunday nights All due respect no disrespect. No disrespect. All due respect. Don't want to be

You got to be careful what you say and most of the other thing like I think a lot more people are watching Penguin That are watching there's plenty of people I know. Like, MCU has reached a point now in terms of at least the amount of stuff they were churning out along with the quality they were churning out. You now have me who's like, I'm going to sit this one out. And Robby explains to me, I do a YouTube catch up. Hey, maybe I do a binge if it's really good, I'll hop in. I have no problem hopping in but like you just don't have my

Hour week every single week locked in because of something you did five ten years ago. It just it can't be anymore I'm for that's also a difference between agatha and penguin like I wouldn't recommend Agatha to everyone Like if you I would say like you're so into the MCU and you loved WandaVision I'd be like, oh it's worth a, but I wouldn't be like, oh my God, you got to go to Disney Plus and watch Agatha all along. Like I would never say that to anyone. Where the Penguin, I am going up to everyone I can find. And if you're breathing, I'm recommending you the Penguin. If someone say picked you up to go somewhere and it was a Subaru, you're like, hey, I got the perfect show for you. Something like that.

Oh, go ahead. No, I think it's fair. And I told you this, I don't know if I said it on the pod. I had alluded to it at least a year ago, but I finally pulled the trigger. I think in about 12 days or so my Disney plus subscription is up and I just hit like like do not renew. I know I'll probably end up paying more if I do a monthly or I renew for whatever the year is. I'm sure I could also probably find like one of those deals where you get ESPN Plus and 17 other things for less a month. But they don't just I am not automatically just locked in to Disney.

This is what my Disney Plus is. It's whatever we review for the pod, which granted there's going to be some Star Wars stuff coming out, some Marvel stuff. We gotta make a monster skeleton crew or something. Do we? Yeah, we're good. And that trailer looked very good, right? It looked like Goonies. Like you said, we're going to have Andor season two, there's going to be some good Marvel stuff. But as of now, my viewing is like like if we watch a Marvel show if we watch a Star War show and then it's like I'll occasionally rewatch infinity war endgame and my kids watch bluey. That's it That's the history right there. I can't add actually the John Williams. I got halfway through that documentary, which was awesome

I just I'm I'm making a stand against the mouse at this point. They're fucking expensive for the parts. They're expensive for streaming. The quality is not matching the standard that I hold them to. So I will be there, and I will probably pay more than I have to to do the monthly or whatever it may be. And it's kind of the same way with their shows. Now, Max, on the other hand, their next project,

I'm going to have to be a little more in for DC stuff because they're on a winning streak right now with the Penguin, right? So I think that's kind of how I view the two universes. I do think both are gonna get good. I think we're gonna have a Monday Night Wars kind of thing with the two franchises, and I think it's gonna be better for us and everyone because of it.

But as of now, like, Marvel, you are just... You're just not where you should be. I was gonna say the John Williams documentary you mentioned. Big high recommend on Disney Plus. I watched it yesterday. I loved it. It was like I was tearing up. I mean the fact that the entire documentary is scored by like the greatest hits of John

Williams, it just makes it 10 times better. It puts it on that upper level immediately. That we saw the trailer for Skeleton Crew, a new trailer for Skeleton Crew that I thought looked really good. Like again, it's kid actors, so we're going to go in a little trepidatious, but it's John Watts. It's the team behind the Mandalorian. It looks already the quality level of the Mandalorian. It looks a lot more Mandalorian than it does the Acoly to the level I'm like, I don't mean to keep harping on that show Which is visually it looked cheaper than most of than all of the Star Wars shows we've seen

Why I don't know because they spent more money on that one than any of the other ones Maybe just building practical sets. It wasn't shot, right? I don't know skeleton crew looks like we're back on that level and we saw the like short mini trailers for a bunch of Marvel stuff. They did like the Deadpool short like teaser, Wonder Man, this, that, the next thing. I think I'm hoping, I'm praying we're over that hump of the old stuff was being pushed out and cranked out and just get it out, get it out, get it out. Now we're back in that we were talking about it this morning with Captain America Brave New World, they're doing more reshoots.

And you said, hey, maybe they're just reshooting the whole thing and making a good movie this time. I said, maybe it's Kevin Feige taking the camera out of the director's hand and being like, no, no, I'm doing it now. Maybe he's fixing everything. He's literally taking the toys out of those people's hands

and giving them back to the Russos. Being like, that's their toys, not yours. You know? Fingers crossed that we're over that hump. And this is the good time, the Monday Night Wars, as you suggested, for the Marvel DC nerd universe. You always felt like there could be a post-Endgame hangover, right? I think everyone kind of feared that after Endgame was, you know,

did such a good job wrapping everything up. And then there was also like the COVID malaise where it's like 2021, 22, where it's like COVID strike. It was a lot of challenges. Yeah. And like, I think everyone was kind of just resting on their laurels. Like you see this all the time, you know, like they had grown to a certain size where it's like, hey, we're just going to give this person a camera.

This person gets a shot to direct something. And it's like, no, let's make good fucking shit. So I think, like you said, I hope like, they're building the airplane out of the black box, maybe. That's how they're gonna do Captain America. If that's what it takes to make a movie, I'll fucking take it, because I want a good movie, not a bad movie.

Also just wanted to say, thanks for coming to Pup Bunk. Clem made the drive to Pup Bunk this weekend. We had our Halloween show. Clem and the Mrs. came dressed up. It was a hit of a costume. And we had a lot of good costumes, actually got a lot of good like 80s 90s movies costumes. The winner was fat bastard. It was an unbelievable like the fat bastard prosthetic Lord David Snyder and his wife Courtney came as macho and Miss Elizabeth. Tremendous costumes. They gave me a Slim Jim on stage. I ate on stage.

I actually talked to this show. I usually don't talk into the mic at punk shows. The crowd demanded it. I talked twice. I said, the first time I said good evening, crowd went wild. Second time I said, I'm eating a Slim Jim, crowd went wild. So it was a good night for me. We were the Ghostbusters.

I teased that last week. I said, we're not like a, it's not a basement costume, but it's a basement adjacent for me. We were the Ghostbusters. I teased that last week. I said we're not like a it's not a basement costume But it's a basement adjacent costume. I would say and we had to we all had to cut up our Ghostbusters We had to cut the sleeves off cut the knees off. They were the biggest Ghostbusters costumes ever One before the show he had to wear it like a separate one because the first one he started cutting off He he cut the knees off to make it like shorts, but then you couldn't tell that they were two legs. It just looked like a Ghostbusters dress. It looked so bad. It'll be in the Pup Punk vlog, I'm sure. Make sure you subscribe to like the Pup Punk channels and stuff. But it was a great night for us.

I hope it was a great night for you as well. You got to meet my brother for the first time too. Yup. Me and Mike Fox met. We embraced and and by embrace I mean hugged the hell out of each other for a while and just had a BS talking about, talking about our boy Bob and how he's growing up right in front of our eyes. We talked about all the, we were talking nerdy stuff, we were talking Batman, Penguin, how much we loved him,

we were talking parental stuff as a couple of olds here. It was just a lovely night. I went with two of to my friends Jamie and Annie who are big stoolies as well and just like, and they were like, oh my God, when can we come back? Like they just had a blast. I think anyone who's ever been to a pop punk show, you just know the kind of just electricity you're getting. It's watching a real band play, but it's also like the greatest cover band we've ever seen. And the energy is just electric. And the costume contest which made it

like a whole other level of just awesomeness. Everyone dancing, just shaking their ass, having a good time. And yeah it was... For the people so they could see your costume too. Finkel, shout out Ace Fintera. Yep I was Finkel, my wife was Zonhorn. We rocked that as the costume and I just wanted to shout out one person that really made a difference and it was 2 a.m. Clem who drove home from New Haven got home at 2 a.m. And Drank six glasses of water before he went to bed and it's the only thing The only reason I'm still alive right now Bob. I like six and I

Was like his brothers all too soon I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like my body was like, dude, I need it. I said, I don't know how you guys were jamming on stage the way you guys were, because I was gassed after the regular set, the encore. I was gassed after the second song. You guys had three more in here. And by the end of the night- We do a long encore, yeah. Billy Joel level encore.

Oh, it was nuts. And then 2 a.m. We tell the people now, we're like, you want one more, you want one more. And we take five. Can't say enough great things about Pup Punk. If you're anywhere near Oxford, Mississippi, which is this Friday. This Friday.

Wow. We're playing, we're playing Ole Miss, the library at Ole Miss, which is allegedly like an amazing venue. We're excited for it. And then if you're not gonna be in town for that one, towards the end of the month, we're gonna be at Fred's LSU,

which is gonna be before big game. I think the college football show might be there that weekend. I don't know yet. I think it was like touch and go, but it might be a big Barstool weekend at LSU. And I've heard amazing things about Fred's, but they are at Mississippi. They're definitely going to be at Oxford. I don't know. I think so. But it was an announcement. Yeah. Oh, it was. Yeah. Good. So it is a Barstool weekend this weekend for sure. And Brandon Walker hates the one person there that is an X factor. At some point he's going to end up on that stage. You put that Mintz in front of a live mic. He will not only end up on the stage, I'm sure he'll end up like on top of the crowd at one point,

probably face down crowd surfing in the amazing manner he does it. He crowd surfed at the Pup Punk Chicago show, so I wouldn't put it past him. Yeah, if Mintz is there, he'll probably see him on stage at one point. And he's gonna probably have his King of the South shirt on where he's like 18 years old, looking like a baby with that suit. I'm gonna call this now. And this is gonna seem like it's not a hot take.

And it's, I don't know if it's a hot take, but it's just, I'm just throwing a prediction out there now. On Friday night, this weekend,'m going to say this week. This is my thing. This weekend Ben Mintz is going to have an all-time Ben Mintz moment, but it's not going to be for what he wanted to do. It's going to be the whole mint. The funniest part is not how he planned it. It's all the other stuff. It's the guy just getting doused with Styrofoam as he's opening the bobble head. It's his shirt being shown as he meets Sean Payton instead of the interaction with Sean Payton.

It is, we are going to have a tier one Ben Mintz moment. And I think it could be happening at Pump Pump. And it's like, does he jump on the stage and he just lands on his face? Oh, like Jack Black in the beginning of School of Rock? Yes, I'm telling you right now I don't want to root for that I love Ben Mince but There is an opportunity to see a potential all-time Ben Mince moment live and it's free, too That's the other thing about these shows. Oh my god, come to the bar. You don't even need a ticket for it

We're playing the bar. It's gonna be a big night Like come on out the library this Friday if If I fucking had just used up my you know this was my wife who was like we gotta go to Pupunk. If I could get there I would I've heard the Grove is an awesome place to tailgate and you know you can watch the game there but it's like a tornado trying to figure like there's probably ways you can figure out where the tornado is gonna like gather but you don't really know until it happens and how big it's gonna get that's a Ben a Ben Mintz moment. And I'm telling you, I'm like reading the fucking little circle ball things like the way the wind's blowing. I'm like, oh, there's one gathering in Oxford, Mississippi. Yeah. This week. Yeah. We're, we're, we're in the calm, uh, before the storm right now, right?

All right. Go to pop punk rocks, uh, R A W X for more info on that in the LSU show and all of that make sure you like this video if you haven't already Subscribe because next week we will be breaking down the finale the penguin It's bittersweet, but I'm excited because once we're done with the penguin it means the Batman 2 hype revs up So same bad time same bad channel my mom's basement