My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 394 - NERD NEWS ('THE BATMAN PART II' THEORIES, FANTASTIC FOUR, AND MORE)

Episode Date: November 21, 2024

Robbie and Clem break down the Nerd News of the week once again, through DC, Marvel, Star Wars, and more! Could Julian Rush from 'The Penguin' actually be Scarecrow?! Will the Court of Owls be the vil...lains in The Batman Part II?! Plus, Daniel Craig as Sgt Rock is discussed, as well as Peacemaker, the Superman trailer, the new Fantastic Four synopsis, Denzel Washington's role in Black Panther 3, the rumors about Rey and the future of Star Wars, and more. Gametime: Download the Gametime app today and use code MMB to easily score great deals with the new Gametime Picks! TurtleBeach: Now through Cyber Monday, level up your game and shop the biggest sale of the year @TurtleBeach at https://turtlebeach.com/BASEMENT! #turtlebeachpod CelebrityMint: Visit https://CelebrityMint.com to sign up and be the first to know when the newest products drop. **************************************** My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike! Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement, presented by Barstool Sports, a very special edition of My Mom's Basement where we're not recapping the Penguin, we're not recapping Agatha all along, we're not recapping anything, we're just breaking down the nerd news of the week. As we lead into Thanksgiving, we'll have Thanksgiving next week. Clem, I already see you've got the fall Thanksgiving attire on. I love to see it. You look like Chris Evans in Knives Out right now. I, oh yeah. You know what? This is kind of the, it's the blue shirt, the navy blue. I couldn't wear
Starting point is 00:00:41 that white. Let's be honest. I know I just got it all over it. No, the white, yeah, you spill something on it. Yeah, it's too too rambunctious. It does kind of look like that shirt though, and I love that shirt. And if it wasn't white, I would have bought that shirt when they like discovered it and put it online.
Starting point is 00:00:55 But yeah, Sienna has a big. Musical performance tonight. I guess we could call it. It's her after school program. It's Broadway, so a bunch of different kids, they sing and do whatever. And she has a solo song almost there from Princess and the Frog or whatever.
Starting point is 00:01:13 I've never seen the movie, but it's a delightful song and we cannot wait. And I said, you know what? I'm gonna dress up for the pod today because I have a reason to be dressed up. There's not a lot of reasons to dress up. Usually hoodie, today would be more sweats than shorts. But today we're gonna we're gonna doll ourselves up for the pod. You called it a very special episode, Bob. So I'm happy I wore a very special
Starting point is 00:01:33 attire for it. I think it is a special episode because as I was compiling the news and all the stuff to talk about, we talk about this when we don't have a show to recap, it's kind of like, what are we going to talk about? Like, is there going to be enough news for us to really get a full show out? And there's a lot this week and there's a lot in the DC world specifically. It's another week where I don't want to sound like a broken record again, but like imagine telling us just a few years ago, you're going to have a bunch of DC news to talk about and it's all going to be
Starting point is 00:02:02 good. You're going to be excited about all of it. Like it's crazy. DC is the leadoff hitter this week, which is something I did not. They are coming. I'm trying to think of like a hitter in major league baseball that like it's basically DC is John Carlos Stanton kind of left for dead a few years ago. Right. And then by the end of the playoffs, there was almost no one you'd rather see come up than John Carlos. Yeah. Right. So that's kind of where we are. Crazy to see it.
Starting point is 00:02:28 So I figured we would start with just fallout of the Penguin finale. Obviously, last week, we recapped that there's been a few things that have trickled out since, you know, Colin Farrell saying he's got five or six scenes in the Batman 2. He signed on for three. I think we touched on that as well. The one big thing that we did not touch on last week that kind of got discovered right after we recorded is that in episode four, Santani,
Starting point is 00:02:53 in that episode, Julian Rush's office is shown and on his desk, there is what appears to be the Scarecrow's syringe glove and mask. I don't know how it didn't get spotted all the way back when episode four aired. It took till like after the finale aired. But I think Julian Rush is the fucking Scarecrow now, Clem. He's the Scarecrow. Maybe he's the guy who creates the Scarecrow even, right?
Starting point is 00:03:20 Maybe if they're doing the yeah, that Joker stuff where he's not the guy, but he's the guy who inspired the guy or something like that He weaponizes someone from our is that where the character originates is Arkham. I don't know my Batman here I don't want to get hold out It's basically this the origin that they gave him in the Nolan movies where he's like a doctor at Arkham Which is what Julian Rush is and I've even seen some theories people say when Doctors get banished from their practice due to like medical malpractice or something like that,
Starting point is 00:03:49 oftentimes they'll just move, change their name, and then they continue in the medical field. What if Julian Rush's name is Jonathan Crane? And right before he moved to Gotham in this universe, he did some fucked up shit and he was experimenting with fear gas early and then boom. because he's already playing on fear. He's got the red light therapy. He's got the bliss inspired, you know, drug that they were giving people at Arkham. Everything except his name pretty much lines up. And I do feel like we threw that around a little bit as a
Starting point is 00:04:21 theory that it was him. But again, just didn't know if it was going to happen. Didn't think it did. It was like, all right, let's move on. And shout out to all those internet sleuths out there who are listening to the sound of Boba Fett spurs to, you know, and slowing things down and removing all the other audio from a audio, from a video clip. And now they kind of did the same with like, I mean, that was background. There's no way the Basin boys are fighting that stuff we throw some you know ragtag theories around but we are not deep divers to that extent we're not going frame by frame you know like the the act of like discovering that I don't even know how it could have happened if you're watching that episode because it's just flashes you know you like you barely see the office and people have even pointed out like,
Starting point is 00:05:05 she's only at his office because she called in a total emergency like, hey, I need to be picked up, I need safety right now. That might've been one of those things that like, maybe he was even trying to hide from her, but hey, it was last minute, he didn't have the time to put that away. Look, there are so many little things about the theory
Starting point is 00:05:21 that I went from, like you said, we touched on it during the season where we were like, oh, that's, you know, kind of fun, but we never bought in fully because it didn't seem like that was going to be paid off. Now it's like, Oh my God, I love this theory. I want this. And people were even saying, I'm not a sons of anarchy guy, but the actor they have to play Julian Rush is a huge character on sons of anarchy. And there was a lot of talk during The Penguin of like, why would they cast this amazing actor to play such a small role? What if this wasn't that?
Starting point is 00:05:49 What if this was his version of Colin Farrell in the first Batman movie? Where it's like, we're just gonna give you a taste and then we'll expand on him later on. Cause they left him alive at the end, they left him with Sophia in Arkham. So there's like little breadcrumbs there that I think will be paid off in the Batman part too.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Yeah, and this is you know, I'm sure we'll get to the other thing that you know, that was discussed post finale, but it's one of those things where you realize that this is one of those franchises where they're gonna have breadcrumbs in the background and the people and you know, the Easter egg people are gonna be grinding. You got to get those YouTube's out and be the one person to point out the scarecrow first. And our boy KFC, he's currently watching live. I believe he's the last I had talked to him, he's episode six, and he goes,
Starting point is 00:06:34 by the way, this doctor guy is the scarecrow, right? And I was like, funny you should say that, Devin. I sent him your blog, and then I said, don't view that actually, there might be like light spoilers about what happens in the file Oh true. Yeah What's the thing you're referencing? The other thing that was talked about was it the accent video or was it what Matt Reeve said about Batman or something? Completely separate the court of vows. Oh
Starting point is 00:06:57 Of course, so the court of vows We also I think we touched on this last week a little bit But I wanted to expand on the court of owls because everyone's talking about that final shot literally in the court where you see the curtains forming owls, the silhouette of owls. And it's crazy. And I really do believe that in the Batman part two, they will be a factor. I don't know if they'll be the main villain. I think they very easily could be.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Some people were asking for further context on the Court of Owls and I wanna give a little further context. So they were introduced during my main comic book reading time. I think I've said that in the past as well. When they rebooted the DC Universe in 2011, it was called the New 52 and I was like, oh, this is the perfect time to dive in.
Starting point is 00:07:40 All of the stories are going back to issue one. We're going Batman number one, Superman number one and I loved that. So the first storyline they went through with Batman was the court of owls arc. This Batman is like five years into being Batman. So he's not like the most souped up prime Batman yet, but he's also not like a rookie. He's been doing it for a while. He's pretty good. And he starts to discover that the court of owls has been underneath Gotham running things all along as this secret society who sends assassins named Talons. And they have this very cool outfit, like an owl kind of style outfit to kill high figures in politics and power,
Starting point is 00:08:18 if they don't align with the court's ideology or whatever it is. And Bruce starts to like look back into his own history. And there was this guy, Alan Wayne, who I think was his uncle or his great uncle. And he like built up all the skyscrapers in Gotham and had this superstition about 13, the number 13, like hotels do. So not only would he skip over that floor, he would just say, build the 13th floor,
Starting point is 00:08:43 but we're not doing any construction on it. Leave it like bare, empty, whatever. Bruce starts to go to these 13th floors and realizes they're all hideouts for the court of owls. And like, maybe they had a factor in killing his uncle, maybe they didn't. There's a lot of like, what's real, what's not. They trap Bruce in this labyrinth.
Starting point is 00:09:03 They have a labyrinth that like drives people crazy. And they reveal that they've been running Gotham for literally centuries, for hundreds of years. I don't want to reveal too much because I do want to recommend the actual comic run to people because there's even some twists and turns with who the talent winds up being really cool stuff and very strange and culty in that high society way, I really think it's perfect for the Matt Reeves universe.
Starting point is 00:09:29 This Gotham that they've built to find out that, you know, there's been people moving the strings all along behind it underground on these 13th floor sky rises. Like it kind of plays into what we already had in the Batman part one of Robert Pattinson discovering a little bit more about his parents and how their history is a little darker than he thought with the Arkhams even with getting involved with Falcone in the first place like, or Falcone, sorry, Falcone is the previous universe. But I really think the Court of Owls is next for
Starting point is 00:10:01 the Batman for Pattinson. Yeah, and like you said, I think with this universe, it's more grounded. So you're not having your Batman forever level characters and you're not having Mr. Freeze shooting people with these crazy cannons, right? You have corruption and like, you know, assassins, which is very real. And, and just the rich people doing really fucked up rich people things on the download to get you know the power and the whatever they need in this world. So and you know, it's gonna feel like the Wayne family is not going to enjoy the Batman if the if the Wayne family was a real life family, they would probably already spoken out against the Matt Reeves movies by, by try to halt production part two. They're going to, yeah, they're going to be outside. They serve people. It's going to be like a Boeing whistleblower. This was going to start. And then the only other two things that I kind of quickly mentioned of the
Starting point is 00:10:56 Penguin fallout, there was the video of Colin Farrell talking in his actual voice with the Penguin prosthetics on felt as uncomfortable as seeing your teacher at the grocery store or something where you're just like, no, no, no, I don't even want to see it. I don't want to think about it. You are one thing to me and Len like, I don't have an issue seeing Colin Farrell do interviews. You know, that's totally fun when he's in the makeup. That's when it throws your brain for a loop. Did you hate that video as much as I did? I, you sent it to me, I said, this is a cursed video.
Starting point is 00:11:26 It's a, and it's different when you have guy, you know, first of all, actors who you know, like you've heard Colin Farrell speak before he became the Penguin. So you know his real voice, but even it, it hurts almost as much like when I watched The Wire and then you realize like all these guys that were like these bad-ass Baltimore dudes were British and they're just
Starting point is 00:11:47 coming with their little fancy t-shirts. Yeah you're like what the fuck is this? So but to do it with the makeup which again you forget it's Colin Farrell half the time so then it's like oh just having a sign above it said it said this is Colin Farrell I would be like whoa whoa this is breaking you know know, the reality here, the disbelief. So that yeah, no make use of my butt keep sending them my way because I just love it makes my brain like turn onto itself and give me a little brain cramp. Even when he does the voice for like a split second in that
Starting point is 00:12:19 video, he's like, I'm not gonna miss the makeup. I'm not gonna miss the fucking voice. And like does it for a sec. I was like, Oh, there he is. There's our Oz. That motherfucker that we hate now. Another thing that Matt Reeves said about the Batman part two, and this isn't even something we could really break down. It's kind of a no brainer, but he's like, he's gonna have Bruce Wayne is gonna have a really hard time being Batman in part two. And I think that's because in the first one, he realizes by the end, like, maybe I was fucking up a little bit.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Maybe by, you know, going by vengeance the whole time, I might've created this crazy world of super villains where if I rise the stakes, the stakes rise for Gotham. It's a, you know, Batman story as old as time. I feel like that's been going back to the Bob Kane, Bill Finger era. Yeah, you know, it's something I've never thought of. They might have probably, they definitely have alluded to it in different Batman movies,
Starting point is 00:13:10 and I mean, probably TV shows and the comics, and even going to like, I don't know if it would be in Marvel as much, but like you said, and I never thought of it this way, going from the typical organized crime underground with the mafia and that kind of crime to the like masked crime like you said everyone just could be like everything was fine until that one dude with a mask came and then everyone else started wearing masks and I could see a J Jonah Jamison or whoever that is in the bat universe being like that guy's the problem tell me you couldn't see that happening in real life
Starting point is 00:13:45 with the way we have with news media. Oh my God. News media. And that was, you know, it's funny is as a kid watching the Christopher Nolan movies, there is a vibe of like a lot of the cops don't like Batman especially by Dark Knight Rises when they're trying to fucking catch him
Starting point is 00:13:58 when he comes out the first night. And I was always frustrated like, why don't they fucking understand? He's the good guy. And then you grow up and you're like, oh, of course that would be the reaction You'd be like, are you fucking kidding this guy with the bat mask? This lunatic is the good guy But he's as crazy as the rest of them. That's what people would be thinking at least a lot of people I think So it is like interesting when you put that in a very grounded, realistic Matt Reeves esque universe. I think he got to go down that path again.
Starting point is 00:14:27 And I do enjoy how this is changing the way I think about a lot of this stuff, a lot of the bat universe and then you again, if you I recommend everyone rewatch the Batman after seeing the penguin and just be like, this is the universe are in and how was it? It was good, right? So good. So like, especially by the end when it's like so I'm not Sophia when Selena is confronting Carmine and like they're in the pool Hall and he remembers like that all means way more they they rogue won it They did a fucking thing where it's like you did a thing after the fact
Starting point is 00:14:58 It's not a prequel, but you did a thing after the fact that now makes the movie better. It's awesome Now I will say this to people that are going back and haven't watched it since the first time they watch it or are watching it for the first time. It's fucking, it's a dark movie. There is some twisted shit in this movie. So- Oh, poor Trent watched it for the first time.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Poor sweet innocent Trent. Can you give us Sweet T's reaction? Cause he had some great Trent lines. It makes me just miss Trent, just like being able to talk to him, even like reading his blogs. I just miss like just Trent's thoughts are always right on point.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Yeah, they're always right. I just pulled up his text cause he was texting me like throughout the movie. So he watched the entire Penguin series and loved it. Pretty much not knowing it was connected to a movie. He knew it was connected to Batman. He knew it was a Batman show, but he said it took till like, there was three weeks left in the show. He was talking
Starting point is 00:15:48 to Fidelberg. And I think Fidelberg said like, Oh yeah, like Colin Farrell didn't even really like stand out to me in the movie. Trenton was like, what? He's like, what movie? What movie are you talking about? So he found out the Batman's movie and he saved it for after the show. Because obviously you didn't have to watch the movie to watch the show. Glenn did the same exact thing. Glenn watched the movie afterwards. Glenn didn't love the movie. He said it was a bit too dramatic for me and a bit too, I think scary. Glenn doesn't like scary things. Now Trent, kind of the same thing though. Trent doesn't love scary things and he doesn't, I don't think he loves like long three hour movies. So it took him a few days to warm up to the idea of watching it, but he eventually did.
Starting point is 00:16:27 And then I knew he was watching it when I just got the all caps text, Nirvana Batman. I was like, okay, okay, he started it, right? And then I get a text legit fired up to see Oz, parentheses, even though I hate him, which is classic, right? I love that. And he said, I also just like this Gotham a lot,
Starting point is 00:16:46 which we talked about. This Gotham is one of the highlights, I would say, of the Matt Reeves universe so far, is just the way Gotham looks, the way Gotham feels like a character. This was a take that I loved. Local news in Gotham will offer a quick warning and then show literally any video on its airways. It is very close to like,
Starting point is 00:17:07 ebombs world or like, I think the sickest live leak. It's lively. That's what it was lively. That was the way I remember when I first started at Barstool, I started like just finding different sites that had videos and stories, and then we could blog off of them. Right. And I remember I had live leak. And then at one point, I was like, I got to take this off of the. Right. And I remember I had live leak and then at one point I was like, I gotta take this off of the bookmarks because I can't keep seeing like hostage beheaded videos just like the
Starting point is 00:17:31 thumbnail doesn't have anything in it but just knowing what's about to happen in that thumbnail is like I can't do this anymore. It's too dark and Gotham the goth GPS or whatever the **** of their station was they just show it live like hey quick quick disclaimer if you like he said it's very quick It's like yeah, you might want to you know have children Leave the room for this one. It's the servant and then it's like the heading video So great take great takes from Trent and then he only had like two more he wrote dope batmobile
Starting point is 00:18:02 And then he said at the end ten 10 out of 10, great movie. He's all in. Trent's all in on this universe. We love it. We need to have Trent on at some point. Maybe we just have to mod for the legitimate Batman 2 review. Just to get his thoughts straight from his.
Starting point is 00:18:19 It's gonna, and I'm telling you, the amount of excitement that's gonna be for that movie, and they have to deliver now, unfortunately, like not unfortunately, but it's now high end expectations. But think about all the people in the office who wouldn't have cared before the Penguin series, and now we're gonna be there opening weekend. And Trans can be one of my things.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Dave said one of the greatest shows he's ever seen in his entire life. And that's not a compliment guy. Dave's not a compliment guy. Frankie Borelli is there. Like these people probably would have been there no matter what for Batman part two, And that's not a compliment guy. There's not a compliment guy. Frankie Borelli is there. These people probably would have been there no matter what for Batman part two,
Starting point is 00:18:49 but now everyone is like, this is one of the most anticipated movies in years. It's awesome. Another movie that I would say is not quite as anticipated. Apparently Daniel Craig is rumored to be signing on as Sergeant Rock at DC Studios, directed by Luca Guadagino. I'm probably butchering that last name.
Starting point is 00:19:11 He's the guy that directed Call Me By Your Name. He also directed a recent, Daniel Craig, I think it came out this year, movie called Queer. He's known for very gay movies, I think. A lot of his movies have gay themes in them. Sergeant Rock, you think you're a DC fan, you think you're a diehard and then you hear a character like Sergeant Rock and you're like who the fuck is Sergeant Rock? I don't know who the fuck this guy is. So I did a little research.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Sergeant Franklin Rock is a World War II soldier who first appeared in 1959 in a series called Our Army at War, not very creative series title. He gained popularity until he got the series renamed after him in 1977. So he remained like a fan favorite character, I guess, in this series that was just about the army. It's not like a superhuman thing at all. It's people without powers, the army got the series renamed after him. He's basically the ultimate soldier.
Starting point is 00:20:04 He can shoot down planes with a sub machine gun. He's trained in boxing and judo proficient in hand to hand combat. He has a combat antenna. If you want to call this a power, he's an antenna. It's like a six cents. He knows when he's in danger. It sounds like a spider senses. Yeah. In a lot of stories, his ending is interesting. He was killed by the final bullet fired in World War II on the final day of the war. There's also a lot of stories where he survives the war. He goes on to meet other heroes.
Starting point is 00:20:34 He's in Flashpoint, he meets Batman, he meets Superman. I think he meets Wonder Woman, the Suicide Squad. Strange headline. When you hear Daniel Craig is about to sign on to play this guy. Someone we most of us have never heard of. That being said, it's James Gunn's DCU. I had never heard of the Guardians of the Galaxy before James Gunn started production on that movie. So, you know, I'm going to keep an open mind, but certainly a headline I never expected to read.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Yeah, the James Gunn made me care about the Guardians. That has some serious legs to it. And I can compare this to, and for my fellow Giants fans, they will nod their head in agreement. When the Giants won the Super Bowl after the 2007 season, every time the Giants started 0-2, we're like, they started 0-1-2-1-0-7, and they beat the Patriots who were defeated.
Starting point is 00:21:24 And that lasted, and there was many seasons where the Giants were starting 0 and 2, especially recently. But basically all the way to the end of the Coughlin era, even when Eli was there, we're like, hey, they can do it again. And those two Super Bowls kind of coming out of nowhere were like awesome. And the greatest, especially the 07 was one of the greatest sports moments of my life. Probably the greatest I'll ever experience. But it always got your hopes up for every season when there were some seasons we had no rights having our hopes up and they kind of ruined our brain like that.
Starting point is 00:21:52 So I think the gun guardians thing does have like, I'll give it three movies and like two TV shows. But the thing is he also has the Penguin on his record. And you know what though, he was straight up the room. He's also got Peacemaker dude. Peacemaker's another one where it's like, who the fuck knew Peacemaker? And now it's like, we can't wait for Peacemaker season two.
Starting point is 00:22:11 That's true. He gets Peacemaker. And I understand he's the reliever who came into the game after like everyone had, you know, the game was decided or he came in and often just scored a hundred runs. It's like, he had no real hand in Penguin, I don't think. Right? Like I think everything was basically, I don't think so. Honestly, they're being done. But yeah, so I so because of that Sergeant Rock,
Starting point is 00:22:30 I'm and I also based on what you're saying, it sounds like Daniel or Sergeant Rock is essentially the James Bond of World War II soldiers where it's like James Bond. He may not be the greatest hand to hand combat and shooter and whatever, but every time you're like, Oh, James will get out of this one, you know, no matter what happens and it's already, he's always calm. Like he's always got this calm, suave demeanor kind of James bondage. Is it just going to be James Bond, but he's doing the knives out voice for being an American. Oh God, I can't take that. That nives out, boys. Every time I get excited about a news nives out, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:23:06 I also love it, but it's also a lot for my brain to just comprehend for a while. It's like one every couple years to, like, you get two hours of that southern drawl every couple years. Yep. I could see them pitching, or James Gunn pitching
Starting point is 00:23:22 this movie to Daniel Craig, and he's like, listen, Daniel, it's James Bond without the James Bond expectations. And I guarantee he's like, listen, I wanted to keep being Bond. It's just all the other shit you probably have to do that comes with being James Bond. He probably didn't want to deal with anymore, right?
Starting point is 00:23:37 So it's like, boom, the paycheck will probably be pretty fucking Bond-like when it's all said and done. He could probably like sleepwalk through this movie, you know, like from an acting perspective, like, yeah, I've done this a couple times, dude I know how to be a fucking action star. There will be like a scene where he's like Bond James Bond like no no no wrong rock Sergeant Rock like By the way, I feel like we haven't really talked bond much on this podcast. I think we talked about it during that cuz I'm not a much on this podcast. I think we talked about it during the because I'm not a car chase guy and that's always right a
Starting point is 00:24:07 full of Bond movies but I appreciate all the um what's the word I'm looking for the movie it happens in all the movies. It's like uh tropes. I appreciate all the James Bond tropes. So I that's why I love Austin Powers so much but like you watch the Star Wars guy too like the tropes are are like, what a classic thing in franchises, yeah. Exactly, so hot girl in the beginning, even hotter girl at the end that he gets. Cool car. You're gonna have
Starting point is 00:24:33 the car chase. Great intro. Gadgets, car, all that kind. I'm also not a car guy in general, but all that other stuff. Coolest dude on the planet. I probably missed like the second half of the Craig bonds, and I feel like I should probably try to dabble in the best Of those and Mission Impossible. I haven't I didn't watch any of the newer Mission Impossible that sound like they were pretty good So what a binge that is for you
Starting point is 00:24:55 I I'm probably more of a Mission Impossible guy than I am a Bond guy Like I've seen some of the old Bond movies, but I haven't seen most of them I've mostly just seen a couple of the Craig ones. I haven't seen like the last one. Um, but I really liked them. Casino Royale. I think it's like one of the greatest action movies I've ever seen in my life. But I'm not like, I can't call myself a Bond guy.
Starting point is 00:25:15 I could see myself becoming one one day though. I could see myself going down the rabbit hole, buying myself that like 25 movie box set or something, and just binging throughout a summer. You have a little of the people overseas, the English there, you know, there's a lot there with Oasis, The Beatles, all that kind of stuff. The song's cooked in, I've got live and let die right there for me. Yeah. Which was the one, I don't see this thing as I couldn't tell you like which Bond movie stuff happened in. I can tell you like I know Golden Eye, I know a couple of other things. There was one where he was naked and they would like he like used like a ball and like a whip that like
Starting point is 00:25:49 he- Oh that's Casino Royale. That's Casino Royale right? That's what I thought it was and I remember seeing it being like I could have wanted to crawl out of my seat in that at that moment. Yeah yeah horrible horrible. Speaking of James Gunn Peacemaker news James James gun says all of peacemaker season one is cannon to the new DCU Except the justice league scene at the end, which you could kind of figure because obviously that's the old justice league We're gonna get a full new justice league I don't know how they're gonna deal with this. He says we'll kind of deal with that in the next season I think based on the fact that it was a quick scene at the end of a huge chaotic battle and Peacemaker was already, I think, having hallucinations at the end of the season. I think you can chalk that up to him being concussed after
Starting point is 00:26:33 the battle and him being like, yeah, when the justice league came down and everyone being like, you keep saying that nobody else saw that. Like, is that a dream? Like you could do a very meta joke about it in the same way they did the Iron Man 2 like, hey, it's me, let's deal with it. I don't have any doubt that they'll be able to write around that. I also don't think it's like too big an issue. I don't think any fan is going to be like, well, I can't buy into season two because they had Jason Momoa in season one. Like I don't think that's an issue.
Starting point is 00:27:00 It's funny because I saw the headline and it said, Peacemaker one is all canon except for one part. And I didn't click the store and I said, it's probably the Justice League part. I was hoping that wasn't the case because that joke is LOL funny. I might go watch the scene after we're done just to laugh at it again. So yeah, there's so many easier ways to just get around that. I'm not concerned. Like if people should be happy because we're going to get a better Justice League, a new Justice League and everything, I'm more concerned. It's like it's a pretty high fucking standard I have for Peacemaker right now, right? I think we said Flamin' Hot was our chips. Remember we did like a chips review? I think it was like Flamin' Hot Doritos or
Starting point is 00:27:40 something. We gave them a lot of love for that. So I'm just really... Even the intro, they said'm just really even the intro they said they're redoing the intro which was like oh they got balls you could just reuse the season i guess maybe you can't because characters in the season one intro are dead now so but they could have just like replaced those characters done the same song the same dance and people would have been like oh this is amazing still but they said they're redoing it full full top to bottom i don't know if they'll keep the same song they should and this kind of goes to James Gunn too the way he's dealt with like pretty much every song in all his like comic movies
Starting point is 00:28:11 they're perfect so it's like I know he's gonna choose I wouldn't have known that song at all if it wasn't for that show same here same with a bunch of songs and Guardians yeah keeping the James Gunn news rolling first First Superman trailer is ready. It's on his hard drive and it's rumored to release in theaters next month with Mufasa the Lion King. If that's true, if they're going old school with us and putting it in theaters first where you literally can't see it online first, which is what they did with the How to Train Your Dragon trailer this week, it was theaters first. I saw bootlegs before I saw the official one. They're gonna fucking get a ticket purchase out of me.
Starting point is 00:28:50 I will go see Mufasa the Lion King to see a Superman trailer. And I haven't bought a ticket to see one movie to see a trailer since I think Dark Knight Rises. And granted, that was a Mission Impossible movie. So I got to see a good movie right afterwards. But it was like I was going for the fuck. And they had an IMAX.
Starting point is 00:29:08 You could watch like the first eight minutes of the movie or something. I was like, oh my God, I think I will have to they will not get my money to watch Mufasa. I might go see the trailer because Superman is my guys, you know. Yeah. But I will not watch that movie unless the reviews come back about that movie being so fucking good that I have. Yeah. I have actually makes there. I have been so anti these live action remakes and they have done nothing but prove me correct. Every single release I feel like just gets worse and I just can't I get so
Starting point is 00:29:44 mad at the, if they had done that for Moana, I'm going to see Moana opening night if it's my choice with the kids. I might just go by myself and then go see them on Saturday. And listen, this is someone that I do think it's gonna be a let down. I have Moana one-one in my Disney movies now.
Starting point is 00:29:58 It's right that high. It is a special movie for the family as well. My daughter was obsessed with as a kid. But if he threw that on the top, oh, you're dealing with Moana, you got Superman, that's what you gotta do. Do you think they're gonna think we should be ready for that? Because you can't tell me Moana is gonna,
Starting point is 00:30:14 or you can't tell me Mufasa's gonna be bigger than Moana. Even though those movies- No, they're projecting Moana 2 to be the biggest animated movie of all time, which is currently Inside Out 2, which is like, you know, inflation or whatever, but they're saying it's going to break all the records that one just set. But the thing is those live actions to bank too. And it doesn't make sense. I mean, the line live action did crazy bank. And yeah, exactly. I didn't talk to anyone that saw in
Starting point is 00:30:37 theaters, but I will say we're saying this and I agree with everything you're saying about the live action remakes. It was part of me that was like this how to train your dragon one looks pretty fucking good. I don't know what it was. But that one I was like, and I understand that one is like the cheapest one of them all not in terms of like, cheap, but like, they're retweeting the movie, just so they could keep it in people's minds when they open the how to train your dragon world that universal. Like it's
Starting point is 00:31:03 literally just like that. it's a retweet. They're remaking the exact same movie, same shots, most of the same cast. But I think it looks good. It's fucked up. That's messed up, man. It's we're living in this twisted world where I mean, like, I guess back in the day, they made shows and movies just to sell toys. And now they're doing it with theme parks and all this other stuff. So I I don't know if I mentioned it on the pod, but when I first saw the Mufasa trailer and it's like they're talking and I'm like, oh, this is a Lion King thing.
Starting point is 00:31:33 I'm like, wait, did that movie come out? I was so fucking confused. Then I realized it was a prequel. And I was like, yeah, that's right. Like Beyonce was the whole thing. I was so fucking I was like an old man moment that I had in my life. That being said, I also should want to see this movie. I love The Lion King. Lion King is my one too on the Disney movies. I should love, I want to go back to The Pride Rock, learn about Mufasa, learn about Scar and their whole thing. But it's like, if it was animated, I might care. When it's not animated, I just, I can't do it. However however now they're lumping my guy Clark up there kind of a game changer. It's a double feature. I also maybe I just this is good for us to know I don't do the whole sneaking out of movies blah blah blah if I could if there's a movie I want to see during that time but it starts the same time I just watch the previews and then I go to whatever movie I'm going to watch. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:25 That's a veteran move. That's a veteran move. I would respect that. You know what it is? Sonic 3 comes out around then. I'll probably take the kids to see Sonic. So all right. I just have to find some time.
Starting point is 00:32:33 I meant right. Yeah. Um, also creature commandos premieres on Mac's December 5th, two episode premiere. This is the animated series, but it's technically like the first entry to James Gunn's DCU. I think it'll be good. I think it'll be funny. I think when you do an animated thing like that, you're going to give us vibes of invincible. And I don't mean to like just immediately be like they're doing an invincible thing, but I think it's going to be like raunchy adult clearly made for adults. I think it's a graded RTV MA whatever. Um, should be fun. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:06 I don't really know what to expect. Yeah, it's going to be. Now, my question for you is this. How much stock do you put the like? Are you putting any stock if it's good or bad on how the rest of the DC will not really know they almost have a free play right here. It's like a free space bingo. No, they almost have a free play right here. It's like a free space bingo Yeah, I like I like that. Okay, right Yeah, it's free space and are you gonna try to watch it like opening night opening weekend? Like what is? I'll probably watch it opening weekend. If the reviews are amazing, maybe opening night. I don't see myself like running to this I didn't run to I didn't watch Dune yet. I will watch it this Week for sure. I'll watch it this week for sure.
Starting point is 00:33:45 I'll watch it before the next episode comes out. But that wasn't one that I felt the need to rush to because I heard the reviews were kind of lackluster. Now I'm hearing them turn around. Now some people are saying they actually liked it quite a bit. But yeah, it'll probably fall in that same zone for me where I'm like, I'll definitely watch it and looking forward to it, but I'm not like, get it in my eyeballs now. Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. I, if it's, this is, I said this the other day, like my opinion on the national manager of the year, caring about the award was if the Mets guy won it, I was going to be thrilled.
Starting point is 00:34:17 If he didn't win it, I truly did not care. If this is good, I'm going to be like, all right, gun has it full steam ahead. Everything in DC is going to be awesome. And if it's bad, I'm gonna be like, all right, gun has it full steam ahead. Everything in DC is gonna be awesome. And if it's bad, I'm like, it's a cartoon. He's just kind of getting his feet. It says nobody characters. But again, what is your brain telling you? He made the Guardians good.
Starting point is 00:34:35 He can make these randos fucking awesome, too. And we've heard that the people playing these characters in the animated show will appear in the DCU. I believe already Frank Grillo is playing Rick Flagg's dad and he's going to be in Peacemaker Season 2. So it's like they're introducing characters through a weird medium but it's kind of cool that it's all connected, voice actors playing the real characters and stuff. I dig that. I also dig our friends at Game Time. We absolutely love Game Time. One of our favorite sponsors here, whether we're getting out to a concert, a football game, a comedy show,
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Starting point is 00:37:29 forced to balance their roles as heroes with the strength of their family bond, the Fantastic Four must defend earth from a ravenous space god called Galactus and his ignomatic herald, Silver Surfer. And if Galactus' plan to devour an entire planet and everyone on it weren't bad enough, it suddenly gets very personal.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Oh, we don't know what that means. Maybe some Richard's family shit. There's a lot of rumors that Reed Richards and Susan Storm will already have their son in this. Maybe their son gets kidnapped or something. I don't know if we've done too uh kids of the heroes getting kidnapped with Billy and Wiccan and all that but sounds cool doesn't sound you know surprising we knew Galactus and Silver Surfer were gonna be in it we knew it was 60s we
Starting point is 00:38:17 knew it was retro futuristic but I'm still really excited for the Fantastic Four the only thing I worry about is the fact that it's releasing so close to Superman and it seems like there's not gonna be a lot of time for the Fantastic Four. The only thing I worry about is the fact that it's releasing so close to Superman and it seems like there's not going to be a lot of time for the CG artists. I know I've brought that concern up again, but like I don't even think they've wrapped filming yet and it comes out in July. That's not a lot of time. All right. And you're dealing with Galactus and the Silver Surfer and the Fantastic Four and their powers. You're going to need some CG.. That's not gonna be one of those. That's not Christopher Nolan. We're gonna do it all practical here. Yeah, exactly. I forgot the Silver Surfer was in it, to be honest with you. It's the Ozark girl. Yeah. From Ozark. And she is awesome. So I don't know what to expect from
Starting point is 00:39:01 all that. But this whole Galactus thing, I've said it like, it just is a lot for my brain to take in. And I didn't know if he was gonna be the main guy in it. And it sounds like he is. And I'm just gonna have to my faith in I don't even know who's doing all this stuff. So it's like I can't love this who did Wandavision. Okay, and I guess I trust the fightige when it's all said and done. It is a little ball. I read about that.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Not flickering in my house, but it's flickering in Bob's basement, so that's fine. One of the signs is flickering, so. Again, I'll be honest, I didn't love the team man in the comics either, because the whole cosmic side of Marvel was just too much for me to understand, and he became like my favorite character in the universe.
Starting point is 00:39:43 So I have faith that they'll do an all right job with this. It's excuse me it's Matt Shackman who did Wandavision. He has some interesting credits to his name other than Wandavision. I mean he's directed an episode of Succession, The Boys, Billions, Game of Thrones. He did two episodes of Game of Thrones, the spoils of war in Eastwatch in season four and five, or no, Eastwatch was, they were season seven episodes, unfortunately. I wish I didn't bring that up, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I read like the fourth episode and I was like,
Starting point is 00:40:20 oh, I thought that was fourth season, it was fourth and fifth episode season. This one is barely like Marvel news, you can't even count it as news, but I thought that was fourth season was fourth and fifth episode season. Um, this one is barely like Marvel news. You can't even count it as news, but I thought it was funny. Denzel Washington revealed that Ryan Coogler is writing him a role in Black Panther three. So just out of nowhere, I guess, doing gladiator two work, he was like, yeah, I talked to Ryan Coogler.
Starting point is 00:40:38 He's going to write me a role in a Black Panther three. And it's one of five projects I plan on doing before I retire as an actor. And he listed them off, I think. He's doing like an Othello thing. It's a lot of like, he's into stage play stuff and I think he was just in like, in hair or something like that. It's a lot of stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:40:56 And then right after he said, I've only got like four or five things to do before I retire, he's like, oh, I'm doing equalizer four and five as well. They just want me to come back, which you know, I'm a huge equalizer guy. So I was fired up. You texted that to me right away. Even though I was disappointed in three, I'm so thrilled.
Starting point is 00:41:11 We're getting more Robert McCall. Just have him equalize more in the next two. That's what I'd like to see. Or my mind is already going, all right, what if they are making four and five? But maybe he's just joking about them wanting him to come back. Cause he was real serious about ending with three. What if they recast Robert McCall as his son and they do prequels? John David Washington is a hell of an actor. I really like him. I'd like to see him in more stuff. I'd like to see that. He also, Denzel refused to get off the red carpet
Starting point is 00:41:40 for the king. They were like, hey, the king has arrived. You got to like go inside. And he looked at them and said, I make my own rules. And he kept talking to the fans, just Denzel's the best. I bet basically wanted to bring that up to say, Denzel's the best. I feel like Denzel has been really feeling himself cause I'm seeing these like red carpet videos popping up in my timeline all the time. I guess when you're, he sees the light at the end of the tunnel, it's like, fuck it. It's like, what are they going to do? Just spend me.
Starting point is 00:42:11 They're going to yell at Denzel, an American for not getting out of the way of the tunnel. It's like fuck it. It's like what are they gonna do suspend me? Yeah, yeah You're gonna yell at Denzel an American for not getting out of the way of the king like the king doesn't have fucking authority over Denzel It's Denzel the king and gladiator Yeah, so fucking yeah the king in my eyes. Did he's the king. He's a gladiator from here Yeah Denzel is the fucking king when it's the Gladiator premiere. Yeah, he should tell a king to go inside. Other kings in this world, Denzel is the motherfucking king. Get out of here.
Starting point is 00:42:33 And the only other Marvel news I had since Deadpool and Wolverine is now on Disney Plus, they also have the Assembled on Disney Plus, the behind the scenes documentary. It's very good. It's another like 40, 50 minute one. I loved it. I thought it was great.
Starting point is 00:42:46 They revealed that one of the concepts for the movie was basically what Jose told us the Deadpool's secret secret wars book was. The concept was that Deadpool was in the MCU all along and the movie would take us through Deadpool's deleted scenes where it's just like he was in every movie. I want this to be a thing still. Like, I don't care if it has to be a short, I don't care if it has to be an animated thing. I don't care if it's a comic.
Starting point is 00:43:13 I would love just in else worlds, you know, say it's not canon. I don't care. Throw Deadpool in MCU scenes and let's see where he would wind up. Deadpool being just off screen on all these fucking moments would be so funny. Tony starts bleeding out. He's like, Oh shit, Tony. That was terrible. One of the other vendors like has to hold them back and they're like, dude, dude, not now. Or like something like that, right before he's like on screen. That'd be great. Like it was going to be like, I mean, again, when they say like we planned or stuff, I'm sure some of this stuff was stuff said in the writers meeting one time and they laughed about it and moved on, but it was like, it was going to be the first half of Thor 2 was
Starting point is 00:43:54 going to be like. Yes. And then it like goes on a different direction halfway through. That would be so funny too. I love this stuff. I don't know if people are sick of Deadpool yet, but I certainly am not like all of the commercials They're putting out you see the commercial they put out with blind Al and Deadpool Disney Plus one oh, it's so good, they're sitting on the couch watching something with the Wolverine popcorn bucket and
Starting point is 00:44:15 They're eating whatever and blind Al reaches her hand in and it's on Deadpool's lap And he just looks up and she looks up and goes welcome to Disney Plus Did the old popcorn bucket trick to her. I like that. That's very good. Fun stuff. We finally had to get rid of the popcorn bucket we got from that night.
Starting point is 00:44:34 It became like, oh yeah, you know, the side. And I was like, the kids using that, I just don't feel right about on many ways. And they just don't understand what's going on, which makes it kind of hilarious. that's why we kept it around as long as we did but everything Deadpool this thing with Deadpool it doesn't need to be deep it's very naughty it's not gonna hold up like the other Marvel movies we're gonna watch it every few years and just get your laughs
Starting point is 00:44:57 you're gonna be like that was cool that was fun and you go about your way it's not where you're gonna watch endgame be like holy fuck and it's gonna knock you off every time And that and all the little things like the stupid pizzas are coming out with even I left at that a month Yeah, I didn't really need to do a pizza, but they did good for them All right before we get into the Star Wars news We got to talk about a new sponsor and Clem this is a sponsor that if you would have told a sixth grade Robbie Fox That turtle beach would one day sponsor my podcast
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Starting point is 00:49:23 You know, you can get your different games, different softwares. This is you can get your different games, different software. This is, you're changing the game with the hardware here. Yes. All right, let's get into some Star Wars news. So this is interesting. We only really had one piece of Star Wars news, but you know, I love Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:49:35 I like including them as a big factor of the podcast, as a pillar of the podcast. So I have one piece of news, real quick, kind of a nothing thing. And then one just fun fact that maybe you didn't know about Star Wars, maybe the listeners didn't know about Star Wars, that'll leave you with something to talk about around the water cooler tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:49:52 The news item, kind of a nothing thing to be honest. Rey will play a role in several Star Wars films being developed. Nobody knows which one will come first, whether it's like her own movie or this new trilogy that's being talked about but they have taken the star wars film set to release in december of 2026 off the slate whatever it was that ain't happening typical lucas film shit where it's just like all right ray will play a role in several star wars films being developed i would like that i'm one of the people that would like that i know a lot of the fan base is like don't give a fuck about Rey. We don't even want to think about those movies. I can't get excited about this because who would believe this? Who would take this with anything other than a grain of salt?
Starting point is 00:50:33 I know I said it last week. I'm saying it again this week. You've like ruined the trust that Star Wars fans have in you to get productions off the ground until we see the photo of you know, the director's chair. We can't believe this. It's just so funny to me that we talked about basically this exact scenario playing out and then a week later it played. We're like, stop doing that.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Just don't announce it at all. And then they did the thing again. They're like, don't worry. It's coming. I, and I, listen, I famously hated the last two movies of that trilogy. I did like the first one, Forrest Awakens. Um, but like, I don't have really any hatred towards her. Right. The thing is it will make me think about it and kind of the whole. Yeah, but she was even for like last Jedi haters. I don't think people ever hated on like Daisy Ridley's performance. I feel like that was one of the highlights.
Starting point is 00:51:26 That was one of the things that even people that hated the movie was like at least like her and Adam Driver were really good in it. I think the people wanted more from those characters. Yeah, that's why that's part of the like anger about it all. Yeah, so I would be excited for that. Also like the sequel trilogy fan in me would be excited to have movies about Ray where like fucking Poe Dameron shows up for five minutes and he's in the cameo Lando role in this one or you know, John Boyega shows up as Finn like I want all of that. Now, since that was the only kind of lame Star Wars news item I had, but I still wanted to have a Star Wars segment on the podcast. I dug back into the brain into the Reddit boards and I said, let me just come up with a fun fact about the original star wars movies that puts everyone in a good mood again. So i don't know if you knew this clam but when star wars was coming out and george lucas was developing it around the same time that steven spielberg was developing close encounters of the third kind. They both said to each other one of these movies might be. Like, we're doing some ambitious shit right here.
Starting point is 00:52:27 How about we trade off the profits of our movie to each other? So no matter what, we're walking away winners. So they basically hedged and George Lucas gave Steven Spielberg 2.5% of the Star Wars profits while Steven Spielberg gave George Lucas 2.5% of the close encounters of the third kind profits. So obviously the movies come out and both of them are pretty much massive successes like Star Wars way more than close encounters, but both of them more successful. So Spielberg got $40 million from the release of the first Star Wars movie.
Starting point is 00:53:03 George Lucas got $13 million from close encounters of the first Star Wars movie. George Lucas got $13 million from Close Encounters of the Third Kind. And this wasn't even the only person George Lucas handed off a percentage to. He gave 1.5% to John Milius, who is the director of Apocalypse Now and also the basis of Walter, John Goodman's character in The Big Lebowski. I believe his characters like based on this guy, John Milius look wise at least. And George Lucas got like 1.5% of the profits of a movie called Big Wednesday for that.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Haven't even heard of that. So obviously the people that made these deals with George wound up on the winning end of them. I think Spielberg has even joked about that, but there's something to talk about at the water cooler tomorrow. Spielberg made 40 million on a movie he didn't really have anything to do with, the first Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:53:49 I had no clue that was a thing. And I feel like I've like, I feel like you've heard that all the Star Wars fun facts and that one came completely out of nowhere, Bob. So thank you very much. I appreciated that. I also appreciated you're the one who we talked about this, I think last week, the John Williams documentary that they had on Disney Plus, and just the way Spielberg was interacting with him, I just always like the coolest thing, like just old buddy. Just laughing about how you did this or you did that, and it's like, I just think him and George probably have the same relationship, and again, I don't think George is scraping, looking under the couch for Nichols at this point, you know, after Star Wars. He's at 4.2, Bailey sold it for her, whatever, you know scraping looking under the couch for nickels at this point, you know
Starting point is 00:54:25 I've known yeah, he's a 4.2 Bailey sold before or whatever. Yeah It's probably the only reason he was able to sleep before the movie came out was knowing hey I do have like a parachute because I know Spielberg will make something awesome and this fucking Wednesday movie whatever the hell that is big Wednesday. Yeah Yeah, and George would famously he would always go to Hawaii when his movies dropped because he was like hey if I get The call that it's there wouldn't like box office projections back then so you would get the call like hey your movie bombed Like the day it came out. They'd be like no fail And he's like if I get that call I want to be on a beach in Hawaii
Starting point is 00:55:00 So he got the call in Hawaii like hey, you're gonna be famous for the rest of your fucking life. This is the biggest movie of all time. And I think Star Wars, another fun fact about it, I don't have the exact details of it. Star Wars was only going to be released in like X amount of theaters. But 20th Century Fox, I think was putting out like some adaptation of a book that was gonna be they thought was gonna be big. So they made a deal with the theaters where they were like, if you want this movie, that's the adaptation of this famous book, you got to put Star Wars in your theaters as well. And they were like, I guess we'll fucking put Star Wars in our theaters. And then it
Starting point is 00:55:37 wound up being absolutely massive. And I don't think anyone saw the book movie. Yeah, there was, what was that book too? I feel like I heard about that. Rinsler? I don't know what it was, but there was definitely something connected where it was like, theaters were basically being like, no thanks from the fucking weird sci-fi thing with the actor nobody's heard about,
Starting point is 00:56:01 and then it's Star Wars. Changes the world. I love hearing people who like were alive for it and just be like, you don't understand when that I love talking to people that were alive for it, yeah. Cause like in the theater it's so different. Yeah, I love asking like my mom questions like that. Like this morning, just out of nowhere,
Starting point is 00:56:19 I texted my mom and I was like, what was the absolute scariest movie you ever saw as a kid or a teenager? Like, just like, what was the movie that got the people talking like that back then? And immediately she wrote back, The Exorcist, no doubt you would believe you got possessed by the devil or something. And I was like, I got to admit, mom, I told her, I was like, I've never seen it. I've only seen like clips of like the exorcism scene. I've seen a lot of the famous scenes, but now my mom said, we got to watch the exorcism together. That'll be a fun father.
Starting point is 00:56:47 So father, son, mother, son watch. I can tell you like for the eighties kids out there, I think people would agree with me. I didn't watch any of these cause I was a fucking pussy. I'm still pretty much a pussy when it comes to scary movies, but on the grounded level jaws, because everyone went to the ocean and you were like, I am not going in the ocean level, Jaws. Because everyone went to the ocean. And you were like, I am not going to the ocean anymore because of Jaws.
Starting point is 00:57:08 My brother wouldn't go in the pool after he saw Jaws. Yeah, there you go. I remember there were people in my neighborhood who were like, I saw Jaws. And then I think Nightmare on Elm Street, because it's like the thought that like, you didn't want to go to sleep because then Freddy was going to get you. That is such a twisted thing to do to somebody. And it's like, literally, if you watch those movies and then go to sleep, there's a decent chance you're going to have a nightmare like about the movie.
Starting point is 00:57:31 That's like what a mental vortex they put you in with that. Yeah, it's so whoever thought of that. And I guess if you let your kids see that, I mean, the thing about the 80s, no one gave a fuck. Like, do whatever can just get out of my hair. And then they went, they saw it. And then your life was ruined because they'd be sleeping in your bed it's like teenagers because they could they were scared Freddie was gonna kill them
Starting point is 00:57:48 and I will say this I'm talking about that Star Wars reaction I think I tweeted it out the first time it happened I watched Star Wars with AJ and it was obviously the scroll he was like huh that's cool and I turned the volume up and when the ships are going and the Star Destroyer shooting at last he went That's been raised in the you know a world of computer graphics and all this shit and even that impressed him in you know Whatever that was 20 20 or whatever. Yeah One more ad read before we get out of here. It's celebrity meant celebrity meant we told you about last week It combines collectibles with stuff
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Starting point is 00:59:53 when new products drop. And then I've just got a few I've got a few random headlines. Super random. This one. Pope ray, the first of the three I have here. I think it's a headline that you caused I think you're the France Ferdinand of this headline. Yes, listen to this headline. I read Clem Disney Plus will soon allow users to pause subscriptions as an alternate to straight-up canceling them I heard that I was like they're listening to the basement and they're like this Motherfuckers like you could have paused for a few months Clem, why don't you just pause they're like we gotta make a fucking feature for Clem. They I appreciated Disney
Starting point is 01:00:33 When you're telling me about like the assembled that was on I'm like, well, I don't that's good enough for me to resubscribe At some point I'm going to have to resubscribe to be able to watch the shows in the basement That I mean, let's be honest. I think Disney kind of sees the running on the wall where they're like, we can't just keep coming up with shitty new shit, but we also don't want everyone to cancel once the new shit is done with and, you know, whatever else is coming out. I think the pause, I would be paused right now. I would, I mean, cause I know I'm going to come back.
Starting point is 01:01:02 You know, you would be back eventually. Yeah. And or, uh, I don't even know skeleton crews, skeleton crews, like two weeks. I guess I was kind of, I was like, maybe Robbie handles skeleton, but I, we already did Agatha where you described to me and it sounded like that was worthy of maybe, I don't know. Yeah. We'll see. I mean, let's be honest. If skeleton crew is the acolyte level, knock on wood. I don't want it to be that level. Maybe we do the first couple recaps and we say we're going to start doing new shows like this where, you know, Skeleton Crew will have a segment on it or something
Starting point is 01:01:36 like that. I think that might be the move. I think that might be the move. But yeah, I love it. I also like, since I subscribed to Disney Plus, like release day. It's I've been there forever Yeah, I now get to like look into these different packages and I'm not an ESPN plus guy You could do the Hulu or something. Maybe or yeah I could maybe package it and I think I'll end up paying less than I was paying Yeah, like yeah, I see offers like that all the time and I'm like, wait a minute Like should I cancel my current thing and just get This offer cuz like they're offering me to pay less
Starting point is 01:02:07 But I kind of like having my cue and my like I'm a sucker for that stuff I'm like what I have to reset all my shit. I don't know. I was doing the yearlies and I was just locked in So I'm like whatever. Yeah Monthly or something, but I'm day one too. That's the other thing I was like what if what if one day they offer a fucking cool piece of Star Wars merch to day one subscribers and like I canceled my like I have these weird nerdy thoughts that only a nerd would have. But you know what every nerd's been there cuz I know I've been there and I'm sure a lot of people are kind of nodding their head being like I
Starting point is 01:02:38 don't want to miss the exclusive that big E word. Yeah an exclusive collectible yeah. Another headline, another one that I feel almost the exact same about as I do with the Star Wars Rey headline. A Game of Thrones movie is in the works. HBO confirms. They said it's very early in the process. When I read that, I don't really have faith that we're going to see a Game of Thrones
Starting point is 01:03:02 movie right away. Like until I hear that they're in pre-production, we heard this about Jon Snow. When like they were like, Jon Snow, he's coming back. We're going to have a new show for their probably for their investors call or something. And then a few months later, Kit Harington was like, yeah, we couldn't figure out a script that made sense. It's like, well, fuck man. Why did you announce that before a script was in place? So the thing that threw me off because he said early stages of
Starting point is 01:03:25 development, and I'm like, all right, they use development, that must mean there's something a little concrete there. And then I looked it up. And they in the article, they're like, no writer, director, producer, someone had an idea is basically what they meant. They said, we got to make a Game of Thrones movie by like 2030. Because the shareholders are gonna want that kind of money. So again, I'll believe it when I see it, there was 1800 throne spinoffs. I mean, obviously, the way they ended Thrones kind of put a lot of those on the back burner, but I'm not going to get excited. And then even when they announce what it's going to be about, I'm still not going to like they have kind of like double poison the well on us the way they ended house of the dragon season two along with obviously the way They ended thrones like you're coming in at like there's really no chance
Starting point is 01:04:10 I don't think they can really save face in the next two years until season three comes out essentially, right? I was gonna say season three They're still in the realm with house of the dragon Pun intended where they can save face if she's awesome It'll be like all right all is forgiven even though you ended on a weird fucking download of season 2 but you can't put out a movie that flops like that's like a big thing like the first game of Thrones movie better be fucking awesome
Starting point is 01:04:38 it better not be like you know the lackluster oh this is a filler thing like it's got to be balls to the wall. One of the best medieval times or you know, whatever you want to describe it as movies of all time. And the thing is, I understand why they can't do a lot of a lot of Thrones because George RR Martin, like if you read the books, they say like it's 100 pages just to describe like the butterfly. Yeah. Of that like kingdom or something like it's crazy. So it's so dense all that shit. You have to just think of how many like the first three Thrones episodes,
Starting point is 01:05:08 you're still learning their names and you're kind of just learning where the kingdoms are and all that kind of stuff. I said just what they can do is just be like, listen, we fucked up the last season, we're redoing season eight. We're gonna get all the actors back. They might be a couple years, 10 years old
Starting point is 01:05:23 or what it's all said and done probably, but we're gonna do it and we're gonna make all the actors back. They might be a couple years, 10 years old or whatever, it's all said and done probably. But we're gonna do it and we're gonna make season eight fucking awesome. Basically, Khaleesi's going across, remember that shot of her going across the sea and we're like, business is about to pick up and then business fell flat on its face. If they could just basically from that moment on, they have to change stuff. You can't just give me a battle of Winterfell that I can see. And you know, brand had the best story. And that's their entire reasoning for everything. But I, I would I would buy a ticket day one for that. I just
Starting point is 01:05:55 don't think it's gonna happen. But that's like my I would be in for even just meant like doing Arya Stark show the way they left Arya Stark at the end of Thrones was like, oh, she's gonna be a pirate. That seems fucking cool. Why are you ending on that note like do Aria Stark is a fucking pirate with the fucking needle stabbing people? I'm in for that show right away. What's Maynard Williams doing? No offense. No disrespect to Maisie Woods. What's she been up to? What's any of them doing? Doing a lot of them. Yeah, kid Harrington that poor sucker. They cast him as the black knight in Eternals like we're ever gonna see him again Sophie Turner I read I read she's going to be Laura Croft.
Starting point is 01:06:33 She just got, I think that was, I'm not going to lie. It seems like we were casting. Yep. Don't understand that. Sophie Turner. The last thing I think of her is a Burnett and you don't have to be a Burnett to be Laura Croft, but she's literally a redhead and then a blonde first. And it's just like- And like, I don't know if Lara Croft is like, it has the craziest personality, but as Sansa, she was so stoic and that worked,
Starting point is 01:06:52 but she was also pretty stoic as like Jean Grey and it didn't work. I don't know. I don't know. I don't need to crap on them. I like them in Thrones, obviously. But Bob, like just go through like all the actors from Thrones and it's like, what are they is the thing before Thrones too I'll tell you why
Starting point is 01:07:13 nobody's doing anything cuz the Viper took all the roles page of that's holy shit you're right yeah he was only in Thrones for I don't know if he was even in it for a full season like looking back you know I don't think he was I was like, holy shit. He made such an impact in such a short amount of time So then he became all Everything yeah. All right, and then the last news item I have of the day We talked about a lot of stuff. We can't even put our faith into we can't even get our hopes up about So I wanted to end on a great note on something we can put our faith into something we can get our hopes up about the cast of Christopher Nolan's next
Starting point is 01:07:50 movie is getting more and more stacked by the day. They just added Robert Pattinson. It's already got Tom Holland. It's already got Zendaya. It's already got Matt Damon and Hathaway Lupita Nwongo. This guy is stacking this cast. He's cooking right now. And I say, let them cook. Every time they add someone new to the cast, I get a little more excited because I've watched Oppenheimer like five or six times since it came out. And I'm more blown away every time I watch it. I'm just like, holy fuck. I can't believe he made that as gripping and interesting a movie as it was. I don't care what this movie is about. We don't even know.
Starting point is 01:08:27 I think there's rumors. It's about like helicopter pilots. I don't even know if that, I don't know what that means. I'm in on it. And I'm also in on the fact that he cast Tom Holland because Tom Holland has not been cast in a lot of great things. He's actually been great in a lot of the things he has been cast in. But obviously outside of Spider-Man, he doesn't have this amazing acting career.
Starting point is 01:08:49 I think this is the start of it. I think Christopher Nolan puts people on notice and he's like, I fucking saw something in Peter Parker here that none of you guys saw. And boom, Christopher Nolan, Tom Holland, also Pattinson, Zendaya. It's all like the next generation. It feels like he's done that in the past. When he did the Prestige, it was like Scarlett Johansson and Hugh Jackman and Christian Bale. It was a lot of like emerging awesome actors on the scene. He's doing it again.
Starting point is 01:09:16 Bob, I gave you permission to clip this, put it wherever you want across all social media channels. Thursday, November 21st, 2024, I'm calling it now. This new Christopher Nolan movie is going to make at least $1 million with this guest. It's going to be huge. Huge. It's going to be huge. Massive. All right. That's all I had for the day. I thought a good day of news. Do you think it lived up to this special episode? Uh, I gave it at the beginning Not only bob it lived up to very special. I think we had a good time in the basement today
Starting point is 01:09:50 It was a very special episode. I'm happy I dressed for the occasion Yeah, you you looked fantastic next time. Maybe i'll get a nice knit sweater or something because oh it'll be like the thanksgiving episode Maybe I should get a nice sweater for it. I'll get a sweater You know what everyone I want everyone to get your sweaters ready for next week's episode. You have to listen to the sweaters, watch in the sweaters. We will host in the sweaters. It's a sweater episode. Hey, get the sweaters ready. And also reminder, if you've made it this far, get your fucking pie crust, because we're doing leftover pies this year for Thanksgiving. Oh no, Bob, I did that last year. What? I'm doing something different this year. I did the leftover pie last year.
Starting point is 01:10:29 Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you could do the leftover pie last year. I'm just saying we told a lot of the people after the fact last year and so many people were like, don't forget to remind me. What are you doing this year though? Stromboli. Oh, very nice.
Starting point is 01:10:44 I had my first Thanksgiving sandwich yesterday. Got the pallet on the big day. As you say, we're a week away now. I'd say everyone get at least one more Thanksgiving something in your sandwich pizza, whatever local delicacies. My buddy, Joe lightning. He told me last year he did or one of these years he did egg rolls. And I'm like, that's a little too high for me. I'm in on that. I'm in on that. I like I'm in for someone to make those for me I can't yes, I can't make those No, I can't make them but I think the stromboli I can do I think I will do a pie as well Cuz why the fuck that you know what else yeah for Thanksgiving this year what snickers pie?
Starting point is 01:11:18 I think I gotta make a Rico snickers pie. Yeah, it's Nick is fine. And I thought you're gonna say this we were talking sweaters I was gonna say some digging this when we were talking sweaters. I was gonna say it's a digging episode, so we had it out there, but again, gotta stay off the radar. Black Friday, week away, go to the Barstool store. We got a Grimace sweater going in there.
Starting point is 01:11:36 We got a whole array of stuff going in. Best prices. Jaden Daniels, if you're a Commanders fan, we got cool Jaden Daniels merch. We got the boom guys. Bring the boom. So big time in the basement. That's it for My Mom's Basement this week. We'll see you next week.
Starting point is 01:11:53 Get the sweaters ready. Get the pie crust ready. It's Thanksgiving.

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