My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 395 - THE 2024 THANKSGIVING SPECIAL WITH KENJAC
Episode Date: November 26, 2024Robbie and Clem are back for a special Thanksgiving edition of the pod, and they're joined by KenJac to talk #SkeletonCrew, the nerd news of the week, and more! Plus, they draft the ultimate "Basement... Thanksgiving" guests! Gametime: Download the Gametime app today and use code MMB to easily score great deals with the new Gametime Picks! Celebrity Mint: Visit https://CelebrityMint.com to sign up and be the first to know when the newest products drop. **************************************** My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike! Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement
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Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube,
and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement and
a special Thanksgiving edition of My Mom's Basement with Robbie and Clem. Can you tell,
we're wearing the sweaters? If you're not, you know, only listening to this, if you're watching
us on any of the video platforms, maybe you could tell we're wearing our nice Thanksgiving sweaters.
Clem, you look great.
You look great as well, Rob. And to you, the viewer, listener at home, you look good wearing
your sweater because we said wear the sweaters this week. So I'm expecting everyone to be
wearing the sweaters. We might've said that at the tail end of the last episode. So if
you didn't take it to that part.
Go get a sweater. Go in your closet right now. Put a sweater on, take a picture of like
yourself with the TV or the phone or it'd be hard to take a picture of yourself with the phone, I guess.
Get a different phone.
You know, take it.
What you gotta do?
Multiple phones.
I want to see a phone and a sweater on every single person.
You tag us and you will get at the very least a like on social media platform of your choice.
If you do not have a sweater, I mean, come on.
You got a sweater. Go on the ad. Everyone's got a sweater. platform. A retweet. Of your choice. If you do not have a
sweater, I mean, come on, you
have a sweater. Go in the ad.
You gotta sweat. Everyone's got
a sweater. However, if you
don't, let me tell you what to
do. You go to the Arsenal
Sports Store because Bob, when
does this come out? When does
this episode? Tuesday night.
This will be out Tuesday night.
Yes. So, um uh we'll say
Fridays. Black Friday. Uh can we say Black Friday's, Black Friday.
Can we say Black Friday?
Is that still allowed?
Yeah, I think it's Black Friday.
We have the sweater sale going on.
That's right.
We're staying off of Dave Portnoy's radar
for the 10th year running, the basement boys keeping
the lights on by not getting in trouble for not promoting
the merch.
Get your sweaters.
We have the Grimace sweater for the Mets fans.
We got the Jaden Daniels sweatshirt for the Commanders fans. We got a ton of beautiful stuff. Sales, sales,
sales. Put Portnoy out of business. So that's our plug of the day, but it's good to be here.
All this stuff, by the way, legitimately, not just like saying this for an ad, when we look at the
merch that we have for sale this year, we have come such a long way in the last 10 years at Barstool.
I've been here for all 10 years, but it's crazy.
The merch now looks nice.
The floor play stuff, the spit and chiclet stuff.
You actually want to buy this stuff for your friends
that are golfers or hockey fans or whatever.
It's good quality, great designs.
The design team is always killing it.
So yeah, shout out Black Friday, 20% off the whole store.
And there's like crazy amount of items. We got dog toys. We got everything.
How you could get stuff for faith. You know, I'm going to get some,
some for faith. I'll get her a pink Whitney dog toy or something.
And let me make this very clear to everyone watching and listening.
This is not an ad. There's no ads. We have ads coming. I promise you.
This is just the boys keeping their heads.
If you want to tag at stool presidenting and just let them know that the
basement boys were, you know, pumping out black Friday stuff.
Before we even get to the Turkey day, the day, the bird,
I would not be against it. And I tell you,
it's going to keep the lights on for at least one more episode. I hope so.
You know, so that's all I'm saying.
Before we even get into the topics this week, I also want to say I'm very thankful for both Dave Portnoy and the listeners because without Dave Portnoy and the listeners,
the lights aren't on. So it's like we've been running this podcast. It's like five years,
I think, pre-pandemic for sure. So thank you to everyone out there listening and who has been
with us from the beginning or the people that just hopped on last week.
Maybe you're a new viewer. Maybe this is your first My Mom's Basement episode.
I hope it is somebody's first episode.
And they're like, these fucking guys are asking me to wear a sweater and take a picture of me with my phone. How is that even possible?
Welcome to the basement. You can't, now you just can't leave.
Robbie, I'm thankful for you as well. You got me on the podcast. I have a great time with you.
And I do believe, was our first episode the end game preview? It was. Yeah. The first
episode of the podcast in general was Dana White. And then the second episode was the end game
preview. Yeah. The all time like biggest drop in Barstool history from one episode to the next.
Two idiots talking about end game. Looking back, looking back, might've started
at the high peak in terms of our time.
We really did, it was all downhill from there.
Oh my, tell those two like bright-eyed kids
what they were gonna like be covering in the MCU
after Endgame was over.
Not pretty, but you know what, we're here,
it's Thanksgiving, we're thankful, we're gonna eat, we're gonna drink, we're gonna be merry, we're gonna talk nerdy you know what? We're here. It's Thanksgiving. We're thankful. We're going to eat. We're going to drink. We're going to be married. We're going to talk. We're
going to talk nerdy for a whole bunch of minutes here. We are. We have some topics to talk about.
We're going to do a draft of characters you'd want to invite to Thanksgiving at the end of this
episode. And also, Jack is going to join us in just a few minutes to give us his spoiler-free
thoughts on Skeleton Crew episode one. He just watched the screener at his desk. I saw him watching it. I was like, no spoilers,
but also I want to hear what you're saying about it. So we all know what to expect on December 2nd
when it drops. It would have been pretty cool if he was watching it at his little TV with the VCR
built in. That's like Disney's marketing should be VHSs because this does feel like an 80s vibe.
80s vibe. Yes, absolutely.
That would have been pretty sweet.
All right.
So the first topic I want to talk about, we've been kicking the podcast off with
Batman the last few weeks and I want to stick on that path.
Reportedly rumored Robert Pattinson has met with Kevin Feige for a role in the MCU.
This is strange, Clem.
I saw this report hit Twitter yesterday.
It's from one of these famous scoopers.
I think it's like Daniel KRP, RPK, something like that.
I don't know how to feel about it,
but my gut says I don't really like it.
I think if you're playing someone that high up,
if you're playing a Batman, I don't
know if I want to see you playing another superhero
for the other team you know
that with like henry cavill doing it for like the cameo and whatever like that's like whatever he's
no longer superman robber patson maybe not right now it also it would surprise me to be honest like
patinson doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would want to be in the mcu maybe i'm wrong he
just seems like a guy who doesn't want to be bothered for just being the Batman in a dark, real Batman.
He's like, whatever, I got to get the paycheck and then I could do my indie movies or whatever.
I didn't even know about this.
This is shocking.
This would be like, I always bring it back to this analogy and I feel like we're getting
to this point.
This is someone in the WWE then going to WCW back in the day and being like, listen, I
want to play a character on your show as well.
And granted, movies are different than wrestling, the way the contracts work, but it's like the same thing.
It's like, oh no, but I'll just, I won't be brick the hitman heart. You could put a mask on me.
No, it feels like you're going between, you're merging worlds together, blurring lines. That's just weird.
You can do this if you're, let's see,
what a tier six character?
Like if you're a superhero or villain,
I'm trying to think like what the highest,
like a Batman, a Superman, a Wolverine, Cap,
those guys, you can't switch sides
if you're the actor for any of those roles.
And it's like, maybe if you're a villain, like I'm thinking immediately like Downey
Jr., but you know that's going to be looped in.
You know there's a reason for Iron Man being Dr. Doom and stuff.
So it's like Christian Bale went over to Marvel and he was Gore the God Butcher, but that
was after he was retired as Batman.
It feels like that chapter is put away. It's like, we're still waiting for the
Batman part. Matt Reeves has to finish that script, by the way. I don't want to rush this
guy. I know we're still singing his praises from whatever he was involved with in The
Penguin and whatnot. But it's getting to that point where we're hearing from actors being
like, yeah, I haven't heard from him in a while. I don't want this movie to get delayed
any more than it already has. Like, it's already two years away. Let's get going on that script, Matt. Come on.
I wonder, he's, you know, maybe Oz is getting a little bigger in the script, right?
You know, so maybe that could be something. Awesome, Sophia.
So who, so what would be like, could Jimmy Olsen go to the MCU and be someone different?
Like, what is the highest guy that you think can go
and active Jimmy Olsen.
That's Jimmy Olsen from like a movie years ago.
And then who?
I think as long as you're not like that main level,
like I even think like.
Can Michael Douglas go to the DCU?
Can Michael Douglas go to the DCU?
Yeah, I think so.
See, that's tough, man.
Pym is fucking so, ah.
But like Paul Rudd can't.
No, definitely. You're an Avenger, you can't.
Avengers can't, Justice League can't.
So there's rumors that Kumail is going to be in both,
because Kumail's in the Eternals,
and reportedly James Gunn wants to use him.
You could do that. I mean, let's be honest, the Eternals was what it was. We enjoyed it. But yeah, like that,
that is one that does that definitely does work. I like that as an example.
And like Chris Pratt, he's being rumored for DCU.
No, absolutely not. I know, but it's gonna happen. You know, with James Gunn, it's gonna happen.
You can't do that. No, it's not. Oh, this is gonna be, I feel like a wrestling fan right now.
He was has to be like such a different character.
He almost has to voice a character or be someone constantly under a mask
or again, maybe a villain like it's going to be weird to see Star
Lord as a different hero.
And I said this back when they hired the guy from Rebel Ridge for Green Lantern.
It's like it feels like this is the talent scoop up, the competing
between the two titans that's like, all like this is the talent scoop up the competing between
the two Titans. That's like, all right, we have him locked in and now by by this guy
becoming our green lantern, he can't then become someone major in the MC. What about
the tista? So that's actually a good that is a good gray area. No one intended for Drax
his skin. But yeah, I think that works because it's enough makeup and
Yeah costume mask makeup. So yeah, and it's such a like that character is also like
So Drax I feel like if you just talk naturally it's immediately like oh, he's nothing like Drax and it's good
It would hurt me. It's still like hurts my dumb
Comic book moron. It would hurt you that's
Like think about it like all the guardians nebula, she can,
you know, go, yeah, it's like a smoke show. She could same with
poison ivy. Boom. Yeah. Poison ivy. Uh, the girl, Gamora,
Zoe, sell, sell on you, by the way, recommendation of the
week. KFC has been like ranting about this lioness show. I was
like, you find that out three about this lioness show. I was
like, if I get out three
episodes in, awesome. It's
awesome. I get on it and I
didn't realize she's in it. So,
yeah, she is. I have a crush on
her. It's flat out. I felt weird
about this crush when she's an
avatar to him. Like, this
doesn't feel right. The girls,
the feelings I have for her,
probably it's a lot of computer
graphics. That's why. Yeah. But
uh it checks out. So, Bradley Cooper, I guess Bradley Cooper could play if he's in like
human form. It's like even though it's not rocket, I imagine it's like imagine if he's like no
marbles with the family. It's like dude you say one word for a fucking tree that you're not actually
a part of. So yeah I mean I personally don't like it. Like I I, like, Batinson, too high.
The Superman guy.
He can't then switch sides.
Yeah, no.
You can't have Cena in MC.
Which sucks, but you can't have him as of right now.
Like, would you say Peacemaker is big enough?
I don't know.
I feel like...
He's a nice show.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And Cena is also one of those guys where it's like,
I haven't seen enough range from John Cena yet.
I think he's a great actor and has real comedic chops, but I haven't seen enough range from John Cena yet. I think he's a great actor and has real comedic chops,
but I haven't seen enough range from him yet to be like,
oh, I'm not even seeing him as John Cena right now.
You know what I mean?
That's fair.
Yeah, because I watch him in the bear.
I'm like, oh, John Cena.
Yeah.
John Fax, Tina.
Like that's all it was.
So yeah, that's like Colin Farrell even.
It's like, no, dude,
you are not going to the MCU until your
penguin character is done with him though it's like I don't see Colin Farrell at all when he's the
penguin so it's like I don't know maybe I could buy him as someone else in the MCU. No you sold
me you're right especially give him keep his real accent too because yeah like if he was Irish
college skinny Colin Farrell cool, like maybe you could make that
word.
I don't know.
It's weird though.
It's funny that we're talking about this Thanksgiving.
I looked at last Thanksgiving, what we were actually talking about on the episode, and
it was a lot of casting news.
It was Nicholas Holt had just gotten cast as Lex Luthor, who played Beast in the past.
That's kind of a back and forth thing.
Pedro Pascal had just gotten cast as Reed Richards who has played everyone under the sun.
You know what that's the answer to this question just have Pedro Pascal play the
entire universe for every single fucking series on DC, MCU, Star Wars, everything else.
And we were speculating on who would play Dr Doom we were like trying to see who would be.
Little did we know it's going to be Robert Downey Jr. We could have blown our minds if we had the
time machine to go back to last
year's episode, just been like, RDJ.
I would have loved if one of us was smart enough to even think of that
ridiculous answer, but there's no way we came and we, we have some crack head
theories on this show.
It's not crack head.
What is that crack?
They're crack head crack pot crack pot crack on our theories.
The crack. On our theories, they're crackhead theories.
Yes, they are very much crackhead theories.
No, they're not.
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All right. Now throwing it over to Ken Jack's thoughts on Skeleton Crew episode one.
All right. We are back. We are with Ken Jack who just watched these just moments after watching Skeleton Crew episode one
What are your thoughts on the first episode spoiler free? Obviously no spoilers
But I walked in it seemed like the opening sequence at least you were pretty thrilled about
Yeah, I think that like some of the early people saying like oh like we were going for like a Goonies vibe. Oh, like
Yeah, like it's definitely got like a pretty heavy Goonies vibe, like, yeah, like, it's definitely got like a
pretty heavy Goonies vibe. I'd say like that opening sequence
is the first time like you stick with like adults. And then
like, once you get to the kid action, it really hits like the
Goonies sort of stride. And they establish it's kind of like,
interesting, because like they subvert a lot of Star Wars feel,
and kind of like grafted onto the Goonies type of world, like
a more modern, like what we think of like grafted onto the Goonies type of world like a more modern like what we
Think like a suburban
Kid upbringing they graft Star Wars stuff onto just kind of sick because like we always think of like in our brain like a
Star Wars house like what the what is that?
Like I don't know what a house is in the Star Wars world and like this a lot of hot shows like weird stuff like that
Yeah, yeah
Or like just suburban life in general and like it has that it has like the kid sense of adventure and like that I feel
like has been missing in movies in general for a while or like a while like that Spielberg
sense of adventure in a year. You know what I mean? Where it's like you're just like really
pumped up and excited or like Christopher Columbus or you know those type of directors
and they'd really it has that.
It definitely has that.
That's good.
So you would say overall, you liked the first episode.
I really liked the first episode.
Yeah.
There are like a couple of points where it's like a little
like some corny lines or whatever, but it's a kids show.
So like it's kind of things where you like you reel yourself in
and you're like, oh, yeah, it's just it's a goofy kids line.
And John Watts directed the first one, right?
First and last one he did.
And I saw Bryce Dallas Howard did the sixth one,
which instantly that becomes like the one I look forward to the most
because she has crushed every Star Wars thing she's done.
Oh, yeah. Big time.
But yeah, John Watts directed it.
You get a feel a little bit of that, I would say, specifically like
Spider-Man Homecoming feel type to it for sure.
John Watts also, did you see him with Apple TV the other day?
Yeah, he broke up with them, which is kind of sick the way he did it. He gave like that new movie
Wolfs with Brad Pitt, George Clooney, they told him that was going to be in theaters. Then they
put it straight to streaming. And he had like a sequel already that they paid for. He said he just
gave him the money back was like, Yeah, thanks. But no, thanks. Yeah, pretty funny. Like that made me like them. And I like them already from the Spider-Man movies. But I was like, yeah, thanks, but no, thanks. Yeah. Pretty fucking like that made me like them. And I like them
already from the Spider-Man movies. But I was like, all
right, John, well, that's fucking he's one of these guys
that's like, Yeah, you're gonna lie to me. I'm not doing
business. Yeah. If Wolfson is a better I don't think this is a
big spoiler. But Ken Jack just excitedly exclaimed while
watching the episode. He's like, Oh, we got new Star Wars food.
Yeah, we started back. I was like, Oh, nice. Is it blue? And he was like, yeah
We were saying Star Wars houses, I think we're all thinking of loops fucking hot like that's all we have and then it's just
Buildings, that's huge buildings. It's like an apartment
Maybe like you get from but it's usually like an imperial like barracks, you know what I mean?
It's not like I think back to like gin or so's house in the beginning of Rogue One.
It's just like in a cave.
It's another hut.
It's a lot of underground huts,
but like this is cool.
I got a question for you, Ken Jack.
So infamously, the Star Wars kid actors
have been struggling on the Disney plus shows.
Yeah.
You struggle with a kid show
with nothing but kids in it or mostly kids.
That's going to be a problem. One episode in with the bar being, let's say,
is the bar, the bottom bar being the kids from Acolyte
or Leia from Obi-Wan?
Where's the bottom?
Or I mean, Jake Lloyd from the Phantom Menace.
Jake Lloyd from the Phantom Menace.
I don't know.
Or the Spy Kids kids in Boba Fett, right?
I think the flashback of the acolyte
to be completely not personally,
I think those kids were the worst person.
At least Jake Lloyd I have a nostalgic thing for.
And then Leia was like, she had certain scenes
where I was like, all right,
I could kind of see a young Leia in her.
Did we clear that?
I think that I would put them like the,
like Jake Lloyd I think is like right there because
you always just think about it but the other part of it too is like what did Jake Lloyd
as a kid actor get to work with or it's like his line with Yippee how do you make Yippee
sound good yeah this is pod racing or that's barrel roll like that and all these like one
Anakin and I'm a person yeah he didn't have lot to work with I think that these kids got a lot more to kind of do and like they all have that sort of like archetype in like
Old 80s and 90s like kid at kid adventure movies. You know what I mean?
Which is kind of nice like the main kid actor is where I thought pretty strong
And his like best friend is like a I don't know what species it is. It's like a different
It's an alien max rebo type species yeah a little man of max rebo species that piss me off so
much come on elephant it's really close yeah and he is very fun he reminds me
of a did you ever watch Jojo rabbit yes I like Jojo do you remember the Alfie or
whatever the kid the other kid, the chubbier kid
He reminds me a lot of him. Yeah, very fun. I like I like that movie
I mean obviously like it's a devastating movie, but like funny and devastating at the same time
But yeah, i'm excited for this. I was excited when I saw the first trailer. I was like, all right
This looks pretty good the second trailer. I was like, oh like this the quality of it
Again, not to harp on the acolyte because I've said this on
The podcast before but it immediately felt like it brought it back to like a Mandalorian level looking quality
I was like, oh shit, like I think this is gonna be good. I love the goonies. I love that Spielberg s5
I just rewatched super 8 and I was like this movies like literally like
JJ Abrams being like I love Steven Spielberg.
I'm making a Spielberg movie.
And I dug that as well.
So I'm excited for this.
And it makes me a little more optimistic
that they said it's now a nine p.m. premiere.
December 9th, they're doing the nine p.m.
premieres for the act or not the accolade for Skeleton Crew, obviously.
And I think that is them being like, hey, we want more eyes on it.
I also saw the Bryce Dallas Howard episode is New Year's Eve and I was like, oh, that's kind of fun
Like New Year's Eve thing you look forward to a Star Wars episode and then the ball drops like I
Think I think skeleton crew is gonna be a hit. I've got my faith in it. Yeah, I just like it
I miss that sense of adventure. You know what I mean? Like that doesn't get some missing and I think the problem with acolyte and I
don't know maybe
You guys would agree with me know what I mean? Like that doesn't get some missing. And I think the problem with acolyte and I don't know, maybe you
guys would agree with me, I think that like, there is a
market as an adult to watch like a kid based show, there's a
market for an adult to watch an adult show. There is not really
a lot of market I think, or for me, and at least for like this
young adult genre of movies and shows, it always comes off like
very, like inauthentic. Like kids are
like generally pretty innocent, like it's an easy thing to do, but like when
you try to as an adult make a young adult show, I feel like it always comes off as
kind of phony and like I don't know, it never really works. And I think
that's sort of the big issue with the Acklide is just that a teenage area just
doesn't really work I think in the Star Wars world. But like you get the kids, I
think in the adventure world, I think that works. So I think this is a very Goonies
is a great comp. Again, take that with a big grain of salt only one episode in and all
that. But like it has that feel of nineties and eighties kid adventure, like good soundtrack
too. You know what I mean? Like it has like that, not like John, I don't want to throw
John Williams out like it's nothing, but it has that like John Williams, like, like, oh,
we're going out on an adventure like that. Yeah. Yeah, it has that feel when you were describing the Steven Spielberg Christopher
Come on saying I did have like the John Williams. I mean it's like as soon as we're done eating our turkey
It's like that's home alone season begins
You have elf over and it's those kind of songs that really get those movies going and I kind of like fuck
I hope we get some kind of whoever's in charge of the music. I don't
imagine John's waving the baton for this one. But if they can
get something even like a simile of it, I would be
absolutely sold. And I also I still love that. He's Ken Jacks
are basically a canary in the coal mine, we send them out. And
then if he doesn't come back out like happy, we're like, Oh,
this Star Wars show is gonna basically
bow and make sense. My Michael G. Chino did the the score on this. I was gonna ask yeah, he's the man
He's all you want to talk about great adventure soundtracks that guy has been
Unbelievable and like little weird things about him is in my brain
I've known him forever because he did the soundtrack for a lot of video games in the early 2000s
And I remember me ever as we especially this one game a lot of video games in the early 2000s. And I remember me and my brothers, especially this one game, Metal of Honor Frontline, me and my brothers like wore the CD down,
then the soundtrack was amazing. It's like way too deep to be in like a goofy like 16 bit video game.
And it's amazing. And when you beat the games, you get like all these like, like behind the
scenes things, you know what I mean? Like you unlock shit. And like we watched it. I remember
watching like what must have been like a 25 year old like
Michael Giacchino like conduct an orchestra on like a behind-the-scenes clip in the ps1 video game against their ps2 video game
And now his kid is a good composer to his kid composed the penguin. No fucking way. That's making Giacchino
Yeah, that's insane. Just like he did the Batman and he was like, hey my kid can do the penguin
He could handle this and this is a guy like, you know
He did the Incredibles like he just has that feel my kid can do the penguin. He could handle this. And this is a guy that, you know, he did the Incredibles.
Like he just has that feel down.
And I think that like he, he has that almost in the same way
of like a Sylvester who did like Back to the Future and like
Avengers and stuff like that.
He has that, that, that accompanying soundtrack that just gets you in that mood.
And I just, I don't know.
I dug it a lot through those, that first step.
I'm looking at him here.
The Incredibles, Ratatouille, Up, Coco.
Up is that like an iconic score instantly.
Iconic, yeah.
There was something I watched the other day,
there was like a show and they had the Up,
they just used all the Up just music and stuff
and the Inside Out stuff as well.
And you just are like, fuck,
I don't realize how much that shit just bangs.
You know, they're incredible. So that's who's in charge of this. Like, this is good. This
is a big win for Kathleen Kennedy right now. It was that Ken Jack, we've been saying like,
I think two episodes ago were like, I just can't trust Star Wars. They say somebody's
coming out and then they inevitably just delay it. And then the next week there was a delay
and we're like, here we fucking go again or they were strapped to projects.
They just can't get out of their own way.
This feels like it could be like a not a huge win, but like definitely a W.
Yeah. I'll do respect to my fellow Kennedy. Uh,
she's not been having a great run. I'll say, uh, good old aunt Kathleen. Um,
she's not been doing, um, uh, an awesome, but also at the same time,
like her name is Ken cat.
Yeah. Yeah. But at the same time, like when, when like you're putting out stuff
and it's not being well received, I think it's better for them. And you can see
Marvel's been doing this too. It's better for them to like rip the bandaid off.
Okay. Let's stop overloading. Let's not just do it because we said we'd do it.
Let's like real shit in and let's figure it out instead of making like, what's
your name? Like Patty Jenkins, you know, Rangers of the outer brim.
Like let's pull that back in, save that money.
Rogue Squadron was it? Yeah. Yeah.
She did that old video too where she was on the aircraft carrier. Yeah.
That's just too much too soon. Um,
I do think they're listening to feedback in a good way right now at Lucasfilm
because we had that quote from Tony Gilroy this week where he basically said
And or season one was so well received that he got absolutely zero creative notes for season two
They were like they trust you you clearly know what you're doing. I said to Clem this week
I was like that makes me wish they could release the fuck the Empire cut of the finale
like if they trust him that much like let's retroactively trust that decision to have Martha. Was it Martha? No, that's Batman's mom. Margaret,
whatever her name was, she was like, fuck the Empire, but she says fight the Empire
or whatever. That makes me excited to it's like, all right. They know Tony Gilroy knocked
that shit out of the park. And they're like, all right, do whatever you want with Star
Wars. Now, like he almost has the key to the. Key to the galaxy. Ooh, there we go. I love that. Yeah. Um, another thing that this is kind of a
no brainer, nothing story, but I saw Clem had a funny quote tweet of it.
Marvel reportedly wants to make a sequel to Deadpool and Wolverine because
obviously it made a billion dollars. It's the number one rated R movie of all
time. Like of course they do. And Clem quotes if you've cool tweeted it with the
You're gonna do this till you're 90
Till you're 90 welcome to the fucking business you welcome to the fucking MCU I mean we were all at the same point this was like no just don't like you can but not not like
Not for a while like you got to give it some time
Yeah
We all we've and Ken check was the one who really hammered this home to me when we saw
Deadpool Wolverine the theater. Like I love the Deadpool movies. I watch them. I have a blast.
They're like 10 out of 10 when I leave the theater. I watch it again and it goes down a little down a
little and then it's like I can't really watch it for like years and then I watch it again. I'm like
this is so much fun. That's kind of what these movies are, right?
It's like we have Wolverine. Let's Wolverine do stuff or you know, whether it's Hugh Jackman or someone else do stuff in the MCU.
Let's let Deadpool do stuff in the MCU. And at some point we could bring them back together.
But like, let's not screw the first bit in a while. Yeah, I'd rather see them pop up in other movies and have their little appearances and interactions with different characters
before we bring them back together
and do a whole movie of them interacting again.
Yeah, I totally agree.
It's, those movies just kind of have like an expiration date.
They're like good for a pop,
but not good for like a sustained thing, I think.
But-
I actually think the most recent one is
maybe the best one in that way.
And- Sure, yeah.
Like the recency bias, because there is a lot of modern
Marvel jokes in it. But like, I mean, the first one does age decently well as well just
because it's such a singular story and like so self-contained. But it is like, yeah, the
second one definitely has some timely jokes that have missed and maybe I'll feel differently
about that Wolverine in a few years, you know
Also, I just wanted to shout out
Absolute Batman the comic series that Jose Young's recommended on this podcast said was gonna shatter records. It did shatter records I went back because I started reading about it and I was like, alright, listen
I just got to get in on the ground floor
I haven't been buying single issues floppy's monthly since I was in like high school because it's just they take up space. You got to go to the comic book store once a month. It's a hassle.
I said fuck it. I'm supporting the industry. I ordered some comics on eBay.
Got the floppy issues and I just want to break this down to you Clem.
I just told Ken Jack about it because I can't stop talking about how cool this series is.
Absolute Batman is completely
reimagining the
Bruce Wayne Batman character. It's like what if Bruce Wayne
wasn't a billionaire playboy? What if he was a blue collar
construction worker that was built like Brock Lesnar? He is
massive. You see the picture of him on the first cover. He's got
that giant bat symbol. Guess what that bat symbol he takes
like pliers to pulls it off his chest, it becomes a battleaxe
that he can slice hands off with his ears come out of the cowl
and become knives that he's slicing and dicing people with.
But he's making sure he doesn't hit the right arteries because
he still doesn't kill. He does use guns, but they're like
non lethal, he'll rig guns to be non lethal and shit. And they
changed his origin as well. So when Bruce Wayne was in fifth
grade, he wins some engineering grant scholarship thing that one
of the prizes is his fifth grade class gets to go to the zoo for
a field trip. His dad is his teacher, Thomas Wayne is not
like a rich guy, he's a friggin school teacher. He chaperones the
class to the school, to the the zoo the zoo gets shot up and
As the shooter is like approaching Thomas Wayne throws the class behind the door and with Bruce and he's like don't open this door
No matter what and he gets shot and like up against the door
Bruce and everyone is trapped inside that bad exhibit. That's where he kept them safe in the zoo
So they change that up and Martha's still alive like Like Bruce Wayne's mom is alive working for the mayor, Jim Gordon. Kind of a cool storyline
there. Alfred does not know Bruce yet. They don't have like a relationship like that. Alfred is a
badass MI6 agent they sent to Gotham to investigate this like new gang that's risen up and him and
Batman are at odds.
Alfred clearly respects him a little bit. He's like watching all the shit he's doing and he's
like he's like all right he's pretty good but like a real master would have like
rigged explosives outside for the people that escaped and then the explosives go off for the
people that escaped and he's like all right he's pretty good. Like they're at odds right now but
you could tell it's gonna become like they're gonna form that relationship
Also the villains there's no like classic Batman villains shown straight up yet
But they're all teased as Bruce's best friends
So like the guy who owns the gym that he goes to is they call him croc
We know he's gonna turn into killer croc his best friends that he plays poker with are Harvey, Eddie, and Ozzy. We know
they're all going to turn into Two-Face, the Riddler, and the Penguin. They tease the richest
man in the world, never has laughed at anything. And his name, the Joker. And like, we don't even
really know what he looks like yet. But there's so much about this that has like, almost like
reinvigorated my love of Batman in a way that I didn't think would be possible with such a weird take on the character
But it's awesome and I'm fully in and I think that our
Listeners should be in as well like get the first two issues and then start reading this monthly with us because it's pretty badass
You have me a battle axe Bob
On the spot right Ken Jack. Did you hear about any of this stuff beforehand?
Yeah, probably was telling me earlier today and I just love the idea of blue collar Batman and him just beating the
out of like penguin and being like you got soft hands brother like they show him I said to Ken
Jack too they show him like fucking destroying villains he's more violent than we typically know
Batman to be like when he chopped the hand off the guy's like holding his hand he's like oh my god
you chopped my hand off Batman's like, I think there's a hospital like
three blocks south. Or is it west? He's like, I don't know,
you should go quick. And then the next morning, he has to like
fix the area that he broke because he works in
construction and engineering and shit. His also his Batmobile is
like a giant construction like dump truck looking thing. But
it's like two stories tall. It's crazy. His bat caves are just empty construction sites. It's awesome.
I think people should be in on it. Um, also the last story I want to talk about
before we get into our draft, the rock came out and said,
he thinks people should be allowed to sing at movie theaters. And I blogged this.
I wasn't crazy passionate about like,
fuck the rock for this take because he's
promoting Moana too and he's probably talking about little kids singing Moana and at the end of the
day whatever I don't really care about that but I blogged it just because I'm like theater etiquette
is at an all-time low. I couldn't believe how many shots of Wicked went viral. People being like share
your pictures of the screen and then people would tweet back and they'd be like oh my god you got
such a good view.
It's like, what is happening right now?
We're just taking pictures in movie theaters.
And that always pisses me off too.
When you see someone's flash go off
and they're clearly taking a picture of the screen.
It's like, come on, man.
I said in my blog, take a picture of the poster outside.
Take a picture of your ticket with your popcorn.
Take a picture of the standee they have.
There's other ways to put on your Instagram story, hey, I'm at the movies. Then like, here's a screenshot of the standee they have. There's other ways to put on your Instagram story,
hey, I'm at the movies.
Then like, here's a screenshot of the movie I'm at.
Clem, what was your take on this?
Well, first of all, this whole thing with the
taking pictures and the etiquette,
I think someone's trying to kill Jeff D'Lo.
That's the end of the year.
Like, you know what it's gonna be?
It's gonna be Stephen Che.
Stephen Che is gonna do something at a movie, tweet it out or do something and Jeff D'Alo is gonna have a corner being like you
Can't do that at a movie theater. It's against the fucking law. The underwritten rules
He's gonna be like reviewing the all 22 in the middle of his like showing it
And he's gonna give like a great movie like I thought it was terrible exactly
Exactly I had Stephen on the run.
I was on with Stephen on the run yesterday,
and just getting into that brain and talking about the takes,
the way he reviews movies.
The wicked thing is crazy, because you
can't grow up in the tri-state and not know about it.
Yes.
The commercials, the billboards, like, what the fuck?
Yeah.
He's like, I lived a block away from there.
I'm like, then what are you talking about right now?
Yeah.
Makes no sense.
But again, this is a guy who used to,
I don't know if you ever heard this story
from an episode of The Bracket, he told us,
his parents would have to put mustard on his windowsills
so that he would stop eating his house.
That is, this is the brain we're talking about here,
the lead poisoning from those paint chips
he was ingesting, it was constantly a work.
But I agree with you about the theater etiquette stuff.
It's crazy.
And there's certain movies where it's experiential
and that is part of the experience.
Like The Room, for example.
Like when you show-
Oh, yeah, of course.
Yeah, like when they show The Room-
And they do sing-along screenings.
I'm fine with that too.
That's why they have sing-along screenings
because it'd be crazy to sing along
in a non-sing-along screening. Exactly,'d be crazy to sing along in a non sing-along screening
Exactly like that's what that's those sorts of showings are meant for I think of you put those like you can't just apply that To every movie here because like you're supposed there is just a code of ethics for movie
You can't you're not supposed to violate it
And again if you're a kid or something what like I would be a little annoyed if a kid was screaming it in my showing
Of wicked or whatever, but it's a kid if we're talking about adults here
If you were scosi wicked this week and like just a woman behind you or a man behind you just started being like
Defying gravity you'd be like what the fuck is going on? I would I would go full Karen I said I would demand like the high school workers in the theater
Drag that person out and bring them to a mental hospital. Yeah, we've had some bad theater experiences
We had that guy poop his pants in Deadpool.
Shat himself in Deadpool 2, yeah.
Pooped his pants out.
I've been in theaters where people jerked off behind me
and I think the singing would be more offensive.
Yeah, there's some bad things.
You can't do that.
And they do that.
And by the way, every theater,
they do the whole thing in the beginning
where they're like, hey, don't do this, don't do that.
Yeah, they're like, shh, fucking be quiet, turn your phone off. That's for a reason.
And also John Chu, I don't know if you saw that, the director of Wicked was like, yeah,
make sure you go and tell your theaters to crank up the volume to a...
Yeah, he's like, turn up the volume in your theaters. It's like, can you just imagine if
you're trying to watch like, you know, a real pain next door to just a wiffle spring and a volume
cranked to a nine? Like, it would suck.
Like, they trust them to understand what volume to keep the music at.
Please.
I think, so this was my take on the sing-along stuff.
I'm with you.
I think, like, so Wicked, something that is new, just came out,
that should not be the case.
But if you're going to see a movie that's re-released,
I personally would let off,
I wouldn't get upset personally if all things fly.
So when I see like Die Hard gets re-released,
everyone's doing like, you know, ha, movie.
They're laughing at the deep,
I appreciate people laugh at the deep cuts.
And when people cheer for like, when,
especially like a bit character comes on screen
that people love, I love that.
And if I'm going to say like Moana,
Moana 2 we're definitely gonna go see this weekend.
If I could see Moana 1, I would do it in a heartbeat.
It's again, number one Disney movie, whole family loves it.
We're gonna watch it here.
I'd love to watch the theater.
And if I watch the theater, you know I'm screaming shiny.
I am screaming you're welcome.
I'm doing everything and it's a fucking event. But when it's yeah, if it's like wicked and it's a new movie and you're going to see it for the first time
You can't have everyone singing. I'm a hundred percent good.
And like again the rock probably didn't mean any harm with that comment, but it kind of does do harm
I think like you can't tell people he said you've paid your hard-earned money for a ticket. You've gone to a musical
You're into it sing. You can't say that though. I mean now Joey commands. I could do whatever he wants when she with it
I like the fucking the barn rails are off, right? Yeah, like it's a reverse like yeah, you say yeah
You go to karaoke bar. You're not allowed to sing now
You have to be quiet just listen like you can't reverse that like you're just I paid my money to see the people on screen singing
You can't reverse that like you're just like I paid my money to see the people on screen singing exactly again I'm okay with like the if you're going to a rerelease if you're going to a sing-along screening if it's a bit thing even like
Obviously Marvel movies on opening night a lot of cheering people love when characters come back up
That's part of the charm of it, but like I feel like singing is almost making it about yourself
Unless you like sing on to your breath
Listen, um, I wasn't even that fired up about this singing comment in particular. It was a good topic for a blog
I was like this this is an easy blog I could write here
It's more just the general like theater etiquette has been so bad that when people talk about the box office is struggling
Yes, it's because of streaming but it's also like people are weighing in their mind
All right
I could wait three weeks watch it on streaming at home for 20 bucks or I could go to the theater and risk a bunch
Of rowdy teens ruining my experience. Mm-hmm. I'm sure that I sound like an old person yelling at clouds
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All right, so this Thanksgiving draft, I don't think we've done this before, Clem.
I went back, we didn't do it last year.
I don't think we did it the year before.
I had the idea for a draft of characters you would want to invite to your Thanksgiving dinner.
Not just characters, because we'll start off with a real person, then we'll go to a Star Wars
character, then we'll go to a DC character, a Marvel character, and then a miscellaneous
fictional character, any franchise, whatever it may be. I really weighed all my options.
Draft order, we'll let Ken Jack go first, because because he's the guest and then we'll go Clem and then me.
We'll go reverse like it is on the screen.
Have that.
We'll do a snake though, but then on the way you could go
first on the way back.
Okay, we'll do that.
I have a question and this doesn't really portend
to the draft, but like, I think when we draft,
we could draft people we like or people we think
would be a good fit.
If you think you're also kind of creating the environment you're going to have for Thanksgiving.
Totally.
And if it's too personal of a question, you guys can refuse to answer.
I'm one of those people that have never had the like quote unquote like,
I don't even know what's called stereotypical, but like the like-
The contentious Thanksgiving.
Yeah, the, oh oh i never had the politics
you know or the racist grandpa i always had nice thanksgiving so i know yeah me neither clemen is
woke grandpa i honestly my thanksgivings were always delightful as well i don't recall a
single moment where there was like an argument or a fight at thanks? Ken Jack's silence speaks volumes right now.
Oh we had some. We had um my uh my grandma her name was Margie and what she would do
every year she would uh collect things. She was a hoarder you see and she would collect
them all and then on Thanksgiving we'd all have dinner and then after dinner we would
call it marbage. She would take all of her garbage that she collected and she would distribute
it to all of us. So like-
Harbage is great.
Sometimes you would get cool things.
Like maybe you'd get like, I don't know,
a brand new toy that she got gifted or found or whatever.
And then other times you'd get like a bag of screws
in a biohazard bag.
Like it would be insane.
That's something I actually got.
I actually got that one here.
So Thanksgiving was a pretty wild time
at the old Kennedy family.
And we would also throw axes and burn stuff and shoot things.
Okay, that sounds fun. Kennedy's having a blast.
This is awesome!
Better than you think.
That sounds kind of cool, yeah.
Our Thanksgiving traditions were like, interesting.
We would always watch the parade, obviously, but like at the Della Bella family Thanksgiving,
or my mom's like Uncle Jimmy, rest in peace, God rest rest his soul would always make fried shrimp as an appetizer and he would make him like
the best fried shrimp you've ever tasted now and then Donna would bring all the
kids the chocolate turkeys and like those hollow chocolate turkeys on
Thanksgiving what a great treat grandpa's walking around giving out soy milk and a fucking tofu burger.
I'm picturing his grandpa now as Dan Soders, uh, lib Ron, uh, Rodney Dangerfield.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, what a woman get no respect around here. Hey,
boys, you want to get dark? I don't remember a Thanksgiving with either.
One grandfather died before I was born and the other one, I don't remember
having a Thanksgiving with, even though he was was alive, I was like six or seven.
So.
He probably left the country when Obama got elected.
That's probably it.
Probably.
All right, let's get into the draft of people
you would want at your Thanksgiving.
Ken Jack, we'll kick it off with you
with the real person category, real person.
Sure.
This is an easy one.
Dead or alive?
Can we do dead?
Oh, yeah, yeah, sure.
Okay. Dead or alive? I think do dead? Oh, yeah. Yeah sure. Okay
Dead or alive. I think I did alive but sure I'm going for live here and I'm gonna pick what I think a guy
As far as like a Thanksgiving table one of the ultimate family guys
This guy's got I say ultimate family guys cuz he's got like not he's not a nice not family guy. I'm not picking Peter
Is a family guy he's got he loves family more than anything he just keeps making more family
I'm gonna pick Philip Rivers. I think Philip Rivers would be an awesome guy to have it your Thanksgiving for you. Yeah, he's rowdy
He's entertaining. He's a great storyteller. He fucking has 300 kids
You know this guy knows how to take care of a dinner table like I just I feel like that's a guy
He's on the grill. He's he's handling a turkey. He's handling everything
I keep a lot of happiness growing up as a charges fan
He's brought me tons of happiness
And I feel like he's just a guy that really takes charge of the entire day in the entire event
And I just think that that is takes charge. Yeah, that does take charge
I just feel like he'd be awesome. Maybe not maybe a great time a great guy sitting there
I can imagine with the head of the tent of the dinner table is carving up that turkey like which one y'all wants peace
Like I just, I love it. Damn, that's a really good pick right
there Ken Jack. And like you said, you need a guy, I imagine every one of the panel can agree,
if we're the ones hosting the Thanksgiving, we all need someone to really take control of the
man duties, which is the bird, if anything arises that need, you know, the jar that needs to be
open, all that stuff. And Philip River, he's North Carolina kid?
North Carolina, he's from Alabama.
He went to NC State.
Okay, so he's a Southern boy.
So he's taking care of all that.
That's perfect.
That's a good one.
That was a really good one.
A lot of good appetizers too, you know, he's coming with.
He's got all good stuff.
The really good mac and cheese,
like all that really good stuff.
And yeah, that's a great pick.
That's a great pick.
So, and mine kind of is in the same ilk. And yeah, that's a great pick. That's a great pick. So, and mine kind of
is in the same ilk. And the reason I chose dead because my guy recently passed, but it's the same.
I know where you're going. Tell him Bob. John Madden. John Madden. It's John Madden. Same kind of thing. He's bringing the turkey.
He's bringing the turducken, right? And he's going to tell you all about the turducken. And there's an entire
generation of people who don't even know when John used to just cook literally
figuratively on that broadcast and just tell you about every little thing about Thanksgiving.
You're watching football. I was gonna say Philip Rivers would be like the aroma when
he first came on watching a game with him, I imagine. He's telling you all the different
stuff about football. You don't know. He probably called the plays before they happened, except
he'd be a lot more fun. I think he just, you know, let it rip. And obviously,
Matt has plenty of experience in that. And he was literally my favorite person on the planet Earth
from the time I first saw him on TV till the time he died. And I think I talked about this on the
podcast. I went like 10, 20 years ago, I just wrote him a letter. I wrote him a letter and it
was like two pages about how much he changed my life
and how I thanked him for everything he did.
I never asked for anything back, I didn't care.
I doubt even read the letter, but it was just one of those things
I was like, I have to let this guy know
how important it was in my life.
God, I haven't met the Derek.
He's the figurehead.
Is Philip-
Oh yeah.
He's the captain for YouTube, Rob?
He's running that conversation.
Mm-hmm.
Can Jack?
Okay.
He's running that conversation.
That's the head of the, he gets the head of the table.
Like I am on the side with my wife and he's BAM
No, yeah getting a lot of bands
For me my real person it was tough because it's between two people actually and for mine
I was kind of looking for someone older with like a lifetime of stories to tell me and I thought about going Steven Spielberg
One of my favorite guys in the entire world, but'm going with someone I got tattooed on me. I'm going with Paul McCartney. I think Paul McCartney at Thanksgiving dinner
Oh my god, what a time and right after dinner you hand them an acoustic guitar you hand them a piano and hey
Let's hear some tunes Paul. Do you which part of the turkey you think he eats first is the wings or?
That's fucking good Ken Jack I like that the turkey. Oh, which part of the turkey you think he eats first is the wings or that's
**** good. Ken Jack. I like
that based on based on my
limited Paul McCartney
knowledge and it's that
knowledge is from the one
episode of the Simpsons. He
was in Lisa the vegetarian. I
believe he does not eat the
meat though, right? He is a
vegetarian. Oh, I didn't even
consider that. That's a tough look. Noite the vegetarian to my freaking Thanksgiving.
Would he be offended if we ate the turkey?
I don't know.
It might have been a miscalculation by me being dressed in a vegetarian.
He's not even celebrating. He's British.
He's British. I was about to say he's not even American.
No, I know, but I feel like that's...
He's lived in America as well.
I feel like he's like familiar with Thanksgiving
and it's kind of a nice like hey
Get over here and eat like it's a treat in him to a nice American Thanksgiving meal
Do you think like I mean you're talking woke now. He's like, oh this is when you took those indigenous people's land
Inviting Paul McCartney to my Thanksgiving. I was sucking Ken Jack's dick for the Philip Rivers pick and now I'm just ripping your pick apart.
Dude, McCartney and Clem's grandpa would have had a time. They would have had discussions we never imagined.
Fuck!
Shit, alright.
I'm wrapping it back around with Star Wars here, and I'm taking Obi-Wan, but I want to clarify,
I'm taking young Obi-Wan,
specifically Attack of the Clones Obi-Wan, because Attack of the the clones Obi-Wan is okay using some Jedi mind tricks for like party tricks
Essentially Elon sleazebaggie Oh where he's like a you want to go home and stop selling death sticks
I think this kind of Obi-Wan is kind of fun
I think you could tell him like hey go go over to my aunt Laura and mess with her a little bit and he's like
you could tell him like hey go go over to my aunt Laura and mess with her a little bit and he's like willing to do it. I think he has a drink in him. He's a little more relaxed like yes he follows
the Jedi code and stuff but he's got that young spirit in him so I'm inviting a young Obi-Wan
Kenobi and this was also a tough one for me to decide between because my mind immediately goes
to like Lando. He's the coolest the most suave. I was like I don't want Lando to like be fucking
one of my aunts in the closet on Thanksgiving. Yeah. Dude, I had the same thought about Lando. I go, I can't invite Lando.
He's gotta take my wife from me. Yeah. Hello, what do we have here? I'd like to hang out with him,
like if the boys are playing poker together, but like you can't bring them around like your female
family members. By the way, just not to bring it back up,
I just looked up Paul McCartney Thanksgiving
and the first thing that came up
is a picture of all of them at Thanksgiving.
And it's Ringo saying, I'll take the drumsticks from the.
Ah, that's good.
That's another good one.
That was better than mine.
I got kind of pissed about that shit.
There's a lot of good Beatles puns with Thanksgiving dinner.
Who would have thought?
You're in the right thought process though, I think.
Cause like imagine like he just, me mind wipes the racist uncle, he's like, hey, stop talking
about election, you know, like an argument comes up, and he's diffusing it quickly.
Yes, even make Paul McCartney eat meat.
Oh, that's true.
Fixed.
He's like, he's like, you are not a vegetarian for the day.
And like, it's no harm, no foul, foul.
No harm, no foul because at the end of the day, nobody remembers that McCartney ate meat
that day.
Cutting the bird with the lightsaber like the, yeah.
I'm gonna say this.
I mean, we're getting nerdy in these conversations now, but is he too strong for the Jedi mind
trick his mind?
I don't wanna like wipe out your-
McCartney?
No, no.
I think he's meant to fortitude his two.
He's pretty old now.
I thought he's pretty old now too, yeah, that's true.
And he smoked a lot of weed in his life.
He couldn't trick that guy.
The most important thing about McCartney
is that he can tell some fucking stories.
Like, you know, he's gonna get on and tell some stories.
That's gonna be good. All right, I love I love episode 2 Obi-Wan
we are really letting the nerd flag fly with that I appreciate that this
one's a risky pick and I completely admit it but I have people who can handle
the negatives but I'm going baby yo cuz he's fucking adorable so he's just gonna
basically sit there he's gonna adorable so he's just gonna basically
sit there he's gonna coo what are the other words that they have like babble babble gurgle
or something yeah all those kind of words that's a great you know I feel like an idiot that one
I didn't even think of him he wasn't even in my rolodex well I I've rolls like there we go
I was going right back to the old like typical Rolodex of all the characters we talking on this pod and I said wait a minute
Let's get there was a baby. Yo
Doll that was just sitting on the ground. I said you're my fucking pick buddy. So it's a good bring him there
There's a whenever is a baby like a baby's around the family dinner or whatever
It's immediately like ah everyone's around the baby making funny faces. It's it's a good vibe pick as well
Perfect source of entertainment don't have to change diapers.
He's not actually a baby, right? So that helps him and John Madden
interacting together.
Oh my god, that'd be incredible.
And Jack, your Star Wars pick and then you'll wrap it around with
your DC pick as well.
My Star Wars pick, I'll qualify it a little bit with you need to lock up all of your silverware
before he comes over and make sure all the other valuables are hidden away and even then
they still might go and it's Hondo Anaka.
Hondo.
Oh, good pick.
You want to talk about some of the great storytellers in all of Star Wars.
Hondo is maybe number one and he's a guy that could just sit there
and rattle off name after story after this.
He is a fascinating and rich character.
Again, you might get robbed,
but the idea of him sitting there telling
all these crazy stories about evading the law
during the age of the empire,
during the age of the rebels, all that shit,
all of it sounds so fucking cool that
Like I think that he would be an amazing fit and as much as I appreciate it like
To a degree obi-wan like that's kind of like inviting a priest to your your thing
You know I mean like it's like it could be cool little bit
That's what could not be cool and baby. Yo little bit great distraction
But I want someone who's gonna be like this guy's giving you stories man. He's giving you full-on stories, and I love that
That's a really good pick if you don't know hondo of course from the Clone Wars and also the Disney ride
He's like the storyteller that they put in place. There's a good animatronic of him and shit
There's also a lot of rumors that he's gonna be in skeleton crew because we're dealing with space pirates here
Maybe a live-action debut if they do it in the same way they brought Cad Bane in, I'd be pretty thrilled. Like that was one of the highlights of Book of Boba Fett for me,
it was the way they brought Cad Bane in. I didn't like they killed them by the end. I would have
liked him to survive and maybe even appear in something like this skeleton crew. But hey,
at Star Wars, somehow if Palpatine returns, anyone could return. I like that.
Cad Bane's not gonna get an invite by the way. Cad Bane's no invite for him.
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no that one guy the Jedi Temple guard that kind of looks like you. Yeah, that's right. I'm always down for a doppelganger.
But for the people at home who may not know Hondo Noco, he is a male
weakling pirate and outlaw who's varied exploits, guarded him notoriety infamy
throughout the galaxy, and he looks like a fucking time.
I was awesome.
He's like a fan favorite for sure.
I would say one of the biggest fan favorites that came from the cartoons
Yeah, he's like a great storyteller. I don't know the voice actor is but he's a matter to be deeper at the Baker
But like he is a really cool voice really awesome voice really cool stories and like he's just like this very um
Like swashbuckling pirate guy that's just yeah, I'm space in a nailing
But like he is very cool
He's just an awesome character and he like is sometimes on the Jedi side sometimes against them like depending on which
side is more profitable for him and he's just very very fascinating dude and I
think it'd be a great storyteller for my DC pick this is a tougher one because
DC I feel like there's a lot of very dour characters a lot of very more
serious people I think the one that I think it was easy my brand like I'm just
gonna go straight to James Gunn because
He's made the characters the most interesting out of that's the reason DC things and I think that peacemaker would be so funny for sure
But I mean he may start like a political discourse at dinner
That's the problem and that's why I think I'm actually going vigilante because he's such a funny sidekick to what is
the main characters in the other two. You know what I mean?
Like, so you're going vigilante. Yeah, I'm going vigilante. Wow.
Vigilante. That's funny. Is so funny. Like that is such a
fucking hysterical character. Like I think he's out of all the
comic book movie or TV series that have come out over the last
few years. He might be like my like pound for pound, the funniest character.
And like me just like in general, every line he has is banger, banger,
banger, banger. And like, he just a good sidekick. And I think that that is good.
I don't want another main character yet in this situation.
So I think he'd be a good, just like riff off of something. This guy says,
riff off something that guy says, and he's just a star.
I like that guy. You know, and I had, I was like, I thought peacemaker.
I'm like, that would be funny.
But then all the stuff you said about him
is what stopped me about it.
He was raised, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
All right, so my DC pick,
see the thing, I'm a pretty big DC noob here, obviously.
Other than Superman, the greatest hero of all time,
my guy who's gonna break all sorts of box office records.
Like Superman's kind of a square,
like as much as I love the guy, let's call it what he is.
And like you said, Ken Jack, there's a lot of people,
like a lot of the Batman villains would be like,
you could figure out a way where it'd be fun,
but you're also probably gonna die.
They're gonna kill you at some point.
Oh yeah.
And then I was gonna make the horny picks,
like Harley Quinn, who's gonna probably kill you,
or Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman
But she's like, you know, she's here like there
She's a square and she doesn't really understand stuff cuz she's from with the Amazon or whatever
So I'm actually gonna go with this is a risky pick
This is a roll the dice admittedly just cuz she's a crazy person at least she's become crazy
She wasn't crazy when she had went to Arkham, but she came crazy. I'm going Sophia. She's the hottest fucking girl in the game right now. Everyone's
along with Sophia Galante, Gigante, excuse me. I almost said the F word and you know,
bring it to the table. We're going to throw the yellow dress on and it's turning into
quite an interesting fucking collection of the table right now. John about a collection. Yeah. And so, yeah, famously very good person to have around your family.
Yes. Yeah. I will not cross her at all. I will make sure she knows I have no ties to her family.
Nobody needs to take the trip to fan nap after Thanksgiving because she's already gassed the
house. Exactly. We'll be open. We'll be freezing our asses with the windows open the whole time.
So I actually thought Superman could have been a good pick. I
feel like Superman is like he gives that masculine energy to
Thanksgiving. He's gonna be helping all the ladies around
the house but he's also not gonna be trying to steal any
of the ladies. He's not gonna be trying to fuck your aunt. He's
like goody two shoes. So I was like he'd be a good pick but
then one character kinda hit my brain and I was like this
would be the perfect pick for me.
I'm inviting Alfred Pennyworth, another Brit, to my Thanksgiving and I'm not, no, I'm not letting him lift a finger.
I'm treating him like the grandpa where you're like, you're not even letting him take the garbage out.
You're not even, I'm bringing the plate to him and we're given Alfred Pennyworth the greatest Thanksgiving of his life
and and like don't even wear the tux don't even wear the little fishtails whatever come in a sweater and
Sit next to Paul McCartney listen to beetle man. I'm sure Alfred's a Beatles fan. Oh listen to his Beatles stories
I think he would be a delightful hang Alfred and all Batman stories. Is that like sense of comfort and wisdom?
full hang. Alfred in all Batman stories is that like sense of comfort and wisdom.
I know we haven't really said like I signed it to specific characters yet. Which Alfred would you pick? That's a good question. Honestly, I could go, I could go any Alfred, but my my like top three
Alfreds would be... Top three Alfreds. Michael Caine. Yeah. Is it Michael Goh or Alfred Goh? Michael Goh.
Michael Goh. The obvious, the one from the first four Batman movies, the Keaton movies, the Val Kilmer movie, the Clooney movie, and then the Batman, the animated series, Alfred, I think is like perfect.
But like if I'm picking a specific one, Michael Caine, get over here Now Bob I'm with you on this and I'm trying not to pick your board here
I just have to ask because I you saw me at Superman and how sick would be if he carved the bird with his laser
Eyes, I'd be sick fucking awesome. But if you're inviting Superman is Superman showing up or is Clark Kent showing up?
That's a that's a fair question as well. Yeah, he even show up as Superman. He's like, no.
I guess you could, if I'm clarifying Attack of the Clones,
there'll be one.
I guess you could say like, yes, Superman show up.
Yeah.
If Clark Kent shows up, though, you will not see Superman
because he just, you know, different people.
He has to keep covering.
Invite some random journalists to your Thanksgiving.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm pretty much Grandpa, yeah.
Yeah, Grandpa. Yeah.
Now, it's you still have other
two more picks here, right?
Yes. But and again, you can do
whatever you want for your
Thanksgiving. This is your
world. Madden's **** running
mine. You know, uh Philip
Rivers is quarterbacking his.
Are any of these is Obi Wan
quarterback in this
Thanksgiving right now? Are you
quarterbacking? I think I think? I think to be honest, I think he is.
Who's cutting the bird? No, he's my control. No, he won with the lightsaber.
That's and that was what I was going to say. You got to use the lightsaber to carve.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And if I could, when you said Alfred, I'm like, oh shit,
this is going to be done properly. But then you're basically freeing the genie from his
curse. You said, did that happen in a Fresh Prince episode?
I feel like Jeffrey got like the day off once and got to like relax.
And it was a nice episode to say, so this would be a really nice thing to, uh,
to witness. Hey, hey, hey, Alfred, you have all for Thanksgiving, a holiday.
Again, it's like, it's like,
if you're a foreigner and coming to America for Thanksgiving, you gotta love it. Again, it's like it's like if you're a foreigner and come into America for Thanksgiving, you gotta
love it. The food, the stuffing, the turkey, the gravy. How
could you not love that? It's like I would love to go to a
different country and celebrate one of their holidays and get
to try a bunch of their traditional food. Of course.
Yeah, it's just you are oh for three. I'm people that
celebrate Thanksgiving right now. That's true. I am like you
know what I am. I am.
Don't you change your next pick either based on that what I just said either. I want you to go with the right.
I'm not changing my next pick. I'm not changing my next pick. This one, I felt pretty, do you know who I'm picking?
I don't think you do actually. No, it's not because I thought it was an obvious one and it was a guy who could
quarterback the meal but I guess not. You thought you thought Steve Rogers. Yes!
He is actually not going to Superman. I'm not going to Steve Rogers? Yes. Yeah
Rogers I'm not going Steve Rogers for a very specific reason the guy was frozen for so long He's gonna miss all the references. I know he's got that gift for he's like I understood that reference
But it was because it was a surprising thing that he actually did understand one. I'm going with someone whose references I'm gonna get
Day in and day out someone that I think I would click
with right away, we would be best pals. It's a chalk pick, it's Peter Parker. I want to sit next
to Peter Parker at the Thanksgiving table and talk about Star Wars and talk about the Alien movies
and build a fucking Death Star with him after dinner. Maybe even me and Peter Parker go for
a walk with some cousins before dinner. I feel like he would be into that sort of thing. So I'm going with Peter Parker.
I think it's a good I think that's good pick. I also worry about which Peter Parker it is.
I'm going Tom Holland, specifically Tom Holland, if I can clarify, because he's the one that
I feel like is the most basement adjacent, you know, Spider-Man. Does Mary Jane come?
Mm. Because if he is in day at your at your Thanksgiving, that's awesome too. That's awesome.
She comes for dessert, right? Or you know, like, oh yeah, she's like with her family
and then comes for dessert or something. Yeah. Does Ned come? That would be awesome too.
He's invited. That might be the pick. You might have be the pick you might have been in by for Ned
You guys all sitting like after it like building a Lego Death Star would be that be like
I mean, that's like right up my alley. Yeah, so Clem Is your Marvel pick is your Marvel pick as obvious as we think it would be?
Well, it was gonna be the team and I was fucking all ready to throw on the old fin I lost the fucking
Vision stone is there the tea man. I was fucking all ready to throw on the old I lost the
fucking vision stone as the mind stone as I did that just
because imagine like we're talking problematic
conversations at the dinner table and it's like the tea
man. I mean he's going to have the whole let's wipe
existence. Let's kill all these people if he can like lead
with that. I don't even know where he's going afterwards
right, but it's like I feel like I got good vibes at my table right now, other than the potential, you know, killer that is sitting there out
of, you know, on work release from Arkham for the day. So because of that, and Bob,
I didn't have this guy on my radar until you said like, he knows Thanksgiving, he's, we're
going to be talking references, he's going to get it. Stuff's a little dated, but I'm
older. Madden's older, he'll understand a lot of this shit.
We're going Star-Lord.
And he's also like, he was my daughter's first favorite
like human.
Did I rob you with that?
Yeah.
Oh, I'm sorry.
No, no, that's good.
I wanted Hondo and Peter Quill next to each other so bad.
I thought that was such a cool Hondo.
Oh yeah, that'd be good.
That'd be good.
That could be awkward.
Like they might've crossed paths once upon a time. Like there could be something going on between them. Yeah, they'd be good. That'd be good. That could be awkward. Like they might have crossed paths once upon a time.
Like there could be something going on between them.
Yeah, they robbed each other.
Definitely robbed each other.
So, I mean...
That's a good pick. Especially for you, same age range like you said. That's good.
We have all these videos of Sienna where she has like earmuffs on and she's going,
Yeah, yeah, and she's dancing and she infamously would say, that's Star Lord, I love him. She had like a Long Island accent. That's ancient pre. I don't know where it came from.
It disappeared the next year, but I'm very happy it's gone, but I'm also very happy it did once
exist. So we're throwing Star Lord, Mr. Missouri. And again, a former Thanksgiving celebrated once
upon a time. And then Ken Jack will go Marvel and then end it out with miscellaneous fictional character.
Excuse me.
Oh man, it's miscellaneous fictional.
I thought it was real.
Actually, I think I could think of a loophole for that.
Okay, so for my next one, without him, I think that I'm trying to think of what the next
coolest one would be.
And I kind of think Gambit would be pretty cool.
Oh, like Channing Tatum Gambit too?
Yeah, Channing Tatum, and if you can't understand a damn word he's saying, but like he's cool,
he's funny, he brings like maybe he brings the gumbo to the function, like he brings
some like cool.
He'll bring the alcohol too, remember that was like his stash that Wolverine was drinking?
Oh yeah.
And you don't have to worry about like you have a translator, I guarantee Mr. Fucking
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That would be amazing.
They use some beignets for dessert.
Like, I don't know.
He could be some really good stuff.
That's a good pick.
Yeah, and that's, can't be okay as a backup, I think.
He's also a Mr. Steel Yo Girl you have to worry about.
But I feel like, you know, it is a holiday.
I feel like he knows there's lines.
He understands.
Are we still, we're talking Shannon Tatum gambit. Yeah my mental
I think that's the one you want at this point. He's so funny
Yeah, and uh my now merged I guess family they love gambling my future in
Every cards with everybody yeah, yeah
We every holiday we gamble like crazy
So we'd be playing poker and he would have a great time being the dealer of that especially since he can do it just like, although that might think he's cheating. I might think he's cheating. I don't know. It wouldn't matter. But he probably is cheating. Yeah, it's very true. But yeah, so Gambit and then my last one. I had another I thought I could pick a real character on this one or a real person for this one. And I think I can I have a way to circumvent it. I was going to pick Charles Barkley and
Because I think he would be awesome and my way to circumvent it is that I would like to pick a character from the movie Space Jam
Who is played by
And I was also named Charles Barkley and is also named Charles Barkley and is Charles Barkley.
So I want to pick Charles Barkley. You want to talk about the funniest fucking storyteller
that there is. He is just an absolute delight. I love just going back and watching all the
inside the NBA clips of him just talking about old San Antonio women and like going back
and forth the shack and just like the he is so goddamn funny
I think you'd be at the light to have at a Thanksgiving
That's I like that you're getting a younger Barclay to which the current Barclay
I love ten out of ten, but I feel like you're getting some more raw stories like you know he's he's more energy
That's right. He's not falling asleep right after you know he's falling asleep at some point for sure
But after dessert not that it's Bar dessert, not this Barclay,
the old Barclay might fall asleep after dinner. Yeah, this is the park where he
was like, I got two words for you. Steve Nash on NBA tonight at six p.m.
and he's like, that was like 10 words. He's like, all right, two words. Nash
tonight at six. I love Barclay so much man. He's the light.
He honestly, if you put together just a table, he might be the one-one pick for
like the world or the country or at Barstool. If you said who would, I think
he'd have the highest approval rating. That's just my guess. That's a great pick
right there. Oh yeah, big time. And then you were a miscellaneous fictional character, Clem.
So it's not in the frame here.
I mean, every time I see fictional character, it just goes John McClane.
Fits for this one as well.
It would be my golf foursome with John McClane.
If I could hang with someone for a day, John McClane.
Inviting to Thanksgiving.
Kind of doing the same thing as you did with Alfred where it's like,
dude, we got Madden manning a lot of this stuff.
You don't have to worry about anything.
Like I want him just to relax, take it easy.
If by some chance we get taken over by Terrence,
I know he has his covered.
But other than that, just like, you know,
tell a couple stories.
I mean, that guy has stories for today.
I just feel like he'd be a good hang too.
Doesn't really take too much off the table.
You know he'll bring probably two two nice things a nice bottle of wine
That fucking bitch Holly's probably just ruining his life though behind the scenes so
We're gonna give John McClane a nice Thanksgiving. That's the plan here
So for my miscellaneous fictional character
I think that's a good pick and obviously a good one for yourself as the biggest diehard guy in the world and the only
Other guy that I was gonna potentially pick here
But I know you're not you've never watched the show at least not yet the bung from the wire. I think
The bug they tell me Ken Jack the bunk just you know
By glass of Jameson and just you know going through stories would be a delightful
So which time of claim do you have do you have which John McClain do you
have? Do you have John uh John
McClain diehard two walking
around the sign or no no no
no no great great. Oh my god.
I would not like that. No, no
we're talking post. You know
I'm going post diehard three
McClain because I'd love to
hear about one but I'd also
love to hear about you know, simple Simon and how he
I think we're going like
1999 McLean. I guess that would
be right around then. So, I
wanted to go in a similar
direction. It's funny that you
said John McLean because I
think there's like two movies
that are the perfect action
movie. One is Die Hard. It's
absolutely 100 out of 100 for
me. The next would be Raiders of the Lost
Ark. So I was thinking, I love Indiana Jones. He's got stories for days. But at the same
time we saw the Dial of Destiny, when the Beatles start hitting in the 60s and that's
coming of age and everything, he's a bit of a grump and he's telling people turn that
music off and stuff. So I'm like, I don't want to have, you know, Indiana Jones, I love him, but I think he'd get him on a bad day
and he's a grump.
I don't want to get him on a bad day
and have him disrupting Paul McCartney's time.
So I'm going to go with someone who I absolutely love
from another action franchise.
Robert McCall, Denzel from the Equalizer,
is coming to my Thanksgiving. Because listen, he's a savage when he's
equalizing enemies, but when he's not, he is like the
number one community family guy. He's teaching people how
to paint. He's teaching people how to cook. He's looking out
for people. I feel like you invite Robert McCall to one
Thanksgiving and you might have him at every Thanksgiving for
the rest of your life and it's Denzel. Come on. It's Denzel
Yeah, that's a fantastic pick
He's and you meet you thinking you know on the head like all the equalizer movies that make such a big point to prove
How much he is like a rider-diver his family and community guy like everyone is this whole thing is like you fuck with people
He likes and he just destroys your entire existence including that one guy
That's the other thing you have him in your back pocket Someone messes with you in the future. All right. Well, you're getting equalized to now
Like that fucking guy that uh tried out for barcelona that one time. Do you remember that? He was like the first guy
He got equalized with it with the credit card with the credit. Yeah credit card swiped across his jugular or something
That was crazy. That was awesome. That scene is so it fires me up
They fucking tried to take this girl home
They like drugged her and took her home and he's like he just shows up and he's like I'm gonna kill you with your daddy's credit card
Yeah, he's like you pretend to be their uber driver or something and he's yeah. Oh
Good ass scene. That's a good pick. That's a really good pick
The equalizer McClane and Barkley those three just
Last round there, the equalizer, McClain and Barkley, those three, just get those three in a room together.
Have yourself a day.
All right, so let's rattle off our complete list.
My list is Paul McCartney, a young Obi-Wan,
Alfred Pennyworth, Peter Parker, and Robert McCall.
Clem, your full list.
I got John Madden, Baby Yoda, Star-Lord,
John Madden, Baby Yoda, Star Lord,
Sophia Gigante, and John McClane. And Ken Jack.
I got Phil Rivers, Hondo Anaka,
Gambit, Vigilante, and Charles Barkley.
What a fantastic name.
I wish it could be a classic.
A classic.
That is the My Mom's Basement Thanksgiving special.
Thank you, Ken Jack, for joining the show. Very very fun draft and happy Thanksgiving to everyone out there listening. Thank you guys
I'm thankful for you club. I'm thankful for you Ken Jack and we will talk to you next week for I believe is next week skeleton crew
Yes next week. We'll be back for an actual skeleton crew review. So join us then. I gotta resubscribe to Izzy Plus now.
Yeah.
Shower today then, Clemenza.