My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 397 - NEW DAY NO MORE (FROM THE TOP ROPE WITH JARED CARRABIS)

Episode Date: December 4, 2024

Jared Carrabis returns to the Basement for a post-#SurvivorSeries episode of From The Top Rope breaking down the War Games matches, the storylines leading into Saturday Night's Main Event, the Rumble/WrestleMania, the Kaneverse, and more! #WWE #AEW **************************************** My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike! Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to From the Top Rope, presented by My Mom's Basement and Barstool Sports. It is Robbie Fox, and I am glad to be back here with Jared Karabas. After many months, it's been too long and I apologize for that. I looked back. The last time we did a podcast together, I think it was July 8th when John Cena announced his retirement tour We haven't even done one since summer slam since the OTC has returned Roman Reigns Jared how we doing? We're doing great Bob. Actually, you know what with some of the subject matter. I don't know that we're doing great

I feel like this is uh, it's not emergency pod territory, but it's almost like therapy pod territory. Yeah. Yeah. Last night was tough. Monday night. Raw was tough. The new day, new day rocks.

Do they though? New day, no longer. They're done. I mean, the new day is not done. I mean, yeah, I mean, the new day we know and love is done. I mean the new day is not done. I mean Yeah, I mean the new day we know and love is done Well, yeah, whether or not they keep the name. We'll see they probably will right? You probably keep the name and they rub it in Biggie's face I don't know but but we got a lot to talk about

Survivor series just happened war games just happened. The bloodline is at war with each other I mean, that's a big thing in the world of jarrett carabas so before we even get to the new day stuff i wanna start with. Where are we at with roman reigns since the comeback. How are we feeling do you like this arc with solo you like the hamen stuff obviously see a punk got in the mix where we at jarrett. So i feel like often times when we talk about wrestling, I always go back to like my childhood. Like when I was introduced to it, it's like I jumped in in the late 90s. And I'm not a guy that likes change. So like when when I jumped in in the late 90eties, there was an iteration of degeneration X that

that was my DX. Like I didn't, I wasn't around for Hunter and HBK. Like that wasn't my DX. Like my DX was the outlaws. It was X Pac. It was triple H. It was China. So then, you know, you watch the stories play out and Hunter becomes the single star, he's a heel, but then DX gets back together, but now X-Pac is a heel

and the Outlaws are heels, and it's like, you just long for, like, can we ever just, like, go back to the good old days when we were all good guys and it was fun, and can we do that again? Like, can we run that back? And that's how I feel about the bloodline where I'm not gonna sit here and say I didn't soak it all in because I now being an experienced wrestling fan, I know this has a shelf life. I know that the OG bloodline like the I knew that the peak was probably the 22 rumble like that. Yeah,

the the the cinema Bob of Kevin Owens and and Sammy turning on Rowan like that was kind of like the peak for the heel bloodline and nothing was ever the same after that. They put them back together. It's obviously not the same because even going into the Survivor Series, I think I remember I said to you, I was like, I don't trust Sammy. And Sammy's not like, he's not turning on Roman yet, but there's just a lot of moving parts here.

And it's not the, like, yeah, they're back together, but it's not the OG bloodline. Like, and in many ways, that's a good thing, right? Like, Jay's a single star. Yes. Like I'm happy that final entrance and survivor series, they made a big deal out of that. That was cool.

I liked it. Yeah. Like Jay's a main event guy. He made his own brand. He has his own like top selling merch. That's the point of Jimmy still. All of it. We like Jimmy.

I like Jimmy. He was pulling out some new shit. People pointed that out. You know, he got a little break. He was pulling out some new shit. People pointed that out. You know, he got a whisper in the wind He was pulling out some crazy shit at war games. Yeah. Yeah, so it's like everyone benefited from it But it's never gonna be the same and yeah that bloodline the OG bloodline Like that's that's gonna be like my adult happy place as a wrestling fan was that run? We're never gonna see it again. I don't like baby face Roman.

I don't, I didn't like him teaming with Cody, which by the way, I don't know. It's kind of a tweener right now though. Right? Would you call him a baby face right now? Yeah. I mean, he's not like, obviously solo is the obvious heel in the program, but they're still at least like making him atone for his actions like people are turning him down And there's they're not they're keeping that fresh in your mind

Yeah, they're doing an awesome job with this because they're not just saying like I forget all that other stuff like it's been Yeah long enough But even last night on raw with Seth and Sammy that opening segment was fucking incredible that was cinema Yeah, I mean like obviously I'm wearing the cane thing right now. And I remember when I first started like watching again, it was because Kane came back and put the mask back on. But it was like, Mark Henry is the one that injured him to make him go off screen. And then he came back and he put the mask back on. And

he's like, I want to fight John Cena. And it's like, Yeah. It's like, okay, why didn't you go after Mark Henry who hurt you in the first place? He just forgot about that. And then that was Vince thinking like the fans have like the memory of a goldfish. Yeah.

And he had to unmask in the first place because Triple H beat him in that title match in 03. Randy Orton interfered in that match and cost him the match and cost him his mask. There was no long term storytelling there of like, I'm coming after you for that. But now we do that. Now we do the long term. And I love that. Like I prefer that so much. That's the Triple H storytelling method. It's like what he was kind of trying to do with NXT, obviously, paying things off, rewarding the fans for being fans. Stuff like the brawl with Cody and Kevin Owens after the, was it after the last pay-per-view before, after Backlash was it? In the parking lot

when they didn't even have cameras on it and they relied on the fans, knowing the fans are going to be waiting out there by the bus and they're going gonna film it. Even the stuff they're doing right now in that program is like rewarding the fans for, some people are like, Kevin Owens is fucking right. He's got the shirt, Kevin is right. Some people are like, dude, come on. You tried to kill him for four years, he was with you and then you're gonna team up with him at Pay-Per-View?

They're actually treating the fans like what we are, nerds. Like nerds that pay attention to every little detail. They did a lot of it in the Bloodline feud leading up to WrestleMania 40 with the Rock doing the fucking L and people reading into everything under the sun. Do you like the solo side of the Bloodline at all? The last time we did this, I think we talked about solo and not really having the sauce. I think he's gotten a little better since then. But I think it's still clear he doesn't fully have the sauce.

He doesn't have all the sauce. But like, he doesn't need it because Jacob has the sauce. Yeah, I fucking love Jacob. I love Jacob. You solo like solo like emailing that a hundred times a match. It's going to be great when the Red Sox signed Juan Soto and I get to use that. Be like, Soto, I love you. So that's what I'm going to do. That's what I'm going to do. It's on Chapman today. Your guy Chapman. Yeah, it's not a baseball podcast. But uh, yeah, it's, it's gonna hit different when when Jacob is like,

solo I hate you. That will hit different. That's gonna be a feud type deal. The only one in the new bloodline with the sauce you would say right? Um, no. I'm a Tamaga. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he's Tonga Loa is just, I mean, he, he, he's got that. There's no help in that guy. No, I'm the Loa is out to see. He is just, there's no help with him. Tamatanga. I could put up with he, he's, he's okay. I just, I yearn for the New Japan days of Tama when he would fucking paint the face He looks so much cooler all that So when I see him, I'm a little bit hurt that it's not that also I got to take

I don't know if you agree with this or not I'm about over war games as a yearly tradition. It was fun for a few years Doing especially two war games matches and one night, they're a bit long, they drag a little bit. Yeah, I mean, it takes like 30 minutes for the match to really start. Yeah, it's also good at a meantime. And it's just like the high spots, the weapons, yeah. The girls won that kicked off the show, no disrespect.

That was terrible. They just didn't have the timing like at all for any part of that. The double jump off the cage, they somehow made like a jump off a steel cage. Lame, in my opinion. They made it look like a circus acrobatics thing. Yeah, it just didn't hit for me at all. So about over War Games, I think it could be a once in a Blue Moon thing if you have two factions, if you have two teams where it makes sense. But I think

next year go back to the five on five, four on four, whatever traditional survivor series elimination matches. I'm with you on that. It's kind of similar to Helen of Selby in a pay per view. Exactly. That needs to be like a blow off or like a blood feud. It can like same thing with War Games, like War Games this year was was good for that. It's like, blow off or like a blood feud. It can like same thing with war games like war games this year was good for that. It's like, all right, bloodline versus bloodline. But when they added Bronson Reed, I was like, please tell me we're not doing Seth. Like this doesn't make any sense at all.

And now punk gets added in. I love that. I mean, you know, being a punk guy is well done. Yeah. And the Hayman connection him after the match being like, you owe me a favor now. All of that was like, all right. That was cool. Yes. But are you seeing what I'm seeing now? Did you watch Raw last night? Yeah. OK, so you saw what Drew did. Yep. And you saw the Seth and Sammy thing.

Yep. Are you are you seeing what I'm seeing with something coming together here? Drew took out Sammy Zane. And Jay in the back, presumably. And Jay in the back. Like a new faction you're saying, Foreman? Because there, it seems like Drew's got that smoke. He wants the smoke from the bloodline. Yeah.

Seth also feels the same way. And then there's one other guy that's upset about the people that keep teaming with Roman. And he's a heel too. I don't know a faction between Seth Drew and Kevin Owens people that the blood like are pissed off that'd be cool Yeah, the resistance something like something cool like that. Yeah, that'd be cool. I didn't I did not put that together Like those stars did not cross in my mind, but they're all mad about the same thing. They are yeah I'd be down for that to be honest. Also CM Punk getting in the mix,

we haven't talked about kind of the blow off of that even few that CM Punk drew things since it happened. The Hell in a Cell match, incredible. Probably the match of the year. The fact that they made like the stupid friendship bracelet, like such a good part of the storyline, such a unique storyline too, which like when you look back at it, that's like a symbol that you could remember out of it. The way that they blew that off kind of gave punk

some time off brought him back with this. And then we just celebrated like the one year anniversary of his return. Me and my brother were talking about it. It's crazy. It feels like it's been longer and also just yesterday all at once, probably because he was injured for a lot of it. But they have done such a good job this past year of making Punk kind of the star that he is with the superstardom, the aura that he has.

His aura feels like it's on a billion. Him and Roman are on kind of a different level in the women's division. Rhea is on a different level than everyone else. But they've done a really good job with Punk in the last year. Would you agree? Absolutely. I think it also helped that he didn't go away when he was hurt. Like he was still on TV, he was still on the desk, he was still cutting promos. So it was there was never an element of like, Oh, when's that pop gonna happen when punk returns like, well, punk never really went away.

But I mean, it is cool to see, like, I think what did they say it was like, their most viewed reel that they've ever had was just like Roman and punk in the in the shark cage together like it wasn't even like a big moment. It's just like people see they were cage together. It wasn't even a big moment. It's just people seeing him. They were great together. The dynamic of Roman stopping him, punk blowing past him, them cutting back to them and them looking at each other with that awkward in an elevator look. That whole dynamic was good. And then even the bloodline all doing the fucking one, punk doing this thing. I thought it was lame that they made punk go back out at the end to do one more pose

Yeah, clear punk like went to gorilla and they were like go back out there. Yeah, they want to end the show on that look Yeah, how do you feel about Cody is champ you were you were down on him? You were mocking the Cody Bobos now, right? This most boring run of all time I Think we're finally in a good part of the title run. I think this Kevin Owens feud has been the best part of the title run. The promo he cut on Cody- It's the only good part.

Is it last, now last Friday. That was awesome. When he's on the commentary desk and he's saying a bunch of shit where it's like, yeah, he's kind of right. Like, I think Cody's right to a degree Like I think Cody's right to a degree. I think Kevin's right to a degree. I'm right in the middle of them pulled back and forth. Now we got a Saturday night's main event, main event, main event, main event.

I think this is, this is what he needs. Now personally, I would put the title on Kevin Owens at Saturday night's main event and have him drop the title back to Cody at the rumble. I don't think they're going to do that though. think it would help everybody. If you do something shocking like that and you go we're dropping the fucking title even if it's for a month. I mean, you have to admit that this title run has been boring as fuck. Like it just has like this feud right now. Yes, some of it's been a way to it now. But to what you're saying, like Kevin Owens is the heel,

but everything he said, it's like he's right. And it's the same thing when Cody first came back as the baby face and Seth Rollins was the heel. And it was like, you left. You left and started our competition and I stayed here and remained loyal. How am I the bad guy and you're the good guy? Like you left and now you're back. Now that WWE is hot again like now you're back. So

I don't know I don't know how like the crowd hasn't turned on Cody yet because like his his story doesn't make sense like it's like all right he finished it he finished yeah you will even even before that it's like you're you're over a new book. This is the first draft Yeah, I don't know. I I I'm a hater but you've written a book you have in books first draft Not always the best draft. No, but I Stand by it on it. I was right Cody Cody left He came back somehow as the baby face over Seth Rollins who's been the workhorse. He's so damn likable He's he's so damn likable. How could you not love cody?

anyways, um I'm into the feud with kevin owens now now that it has some juice to it, but when it was like Oh, you're my friend. Do you want a title shot? Sure pal? Yeah, let's have a let's have a title match It's like can you please like get angry at someone like what? Let's have a title match. It's like can you please like get angry at someone? Kevin just loses he's done this a couple times with Roman in the past few years I feel like he's like a perennial contender always the fucking bridesmaid never the bride Like let's fucking put the title on for him one. Yeah, just a month in elevates him. I think I want that action though I'd like that faction to maybe they fucking help him at Saturday night's main event. Where do we stand on Braun breaker?

He's been a controversial polarizing figure on this podcast I defended him for a while then when he was first on the main roster I kind of started flip-flopping Now I'm kind of back in on him to be honest him taking a fucking the corner of the announced table to the sternum The other night that was outrageous. I'm in on braun breaker I'm I'm in to a degree. I still don't understand why we're not letting him be a Steiner. But they'll acknowledge on TV. Yeah, it's like they'll acknowledge on TV that he's he belongs to the Steiner family, but they won't give him the Steiner name. It makes no sense. Do they feel it's too far gone now?

Like we've wasted enough time with this brawn breaker thing? I don't know. I don't know what the thought process is. Maybe he doesn't want that. Maybe he wants something else. And also, maybe this is a weird take, but are we in like the last generation that that would mean something to? I think wrestling fans are smarter than me. I don't know if you care about

a Steiner. I think in anything else, like in general sports, I don't think that fans that are 22 care about like who was the greatest of the 80s. I don't think that they care about that. But wrestling fans, they care about the history. So like, I don't know, I'm not gonna sit here and say that it means nothing. I think it means something, but it could just very well be that he doesn't want to be like a Neppo baby like Cody. And at this point, what this is crazy to say, and some wrestling fans may hate me for saying this, what the

Steiner's are most known for at this point is Scott Snyder's math promo, his TNA math promo. Him being a lunatic, it's one of the greatest clips of all time. But it's like when the Steiner's were wrestling as a tag team, they were an elite tag team, one of the best. And like technical wrestlers, they did all the moves that nobody would expect. They were high flyers. They did powerhouse moves, but it's now they're kind of down to the two thirds and one third chance and you know, the math, the numbers never lie.

Can I play it? Yeah, I don't think we'll get taken down or anything. John Steiner, it's going to be a three-way for the TNA Heavyweight title at Sacrifice between you, Kurt Angle, and Samoa Joe. Now before you get there, you have an important step tonight as you and X-Division Champion, Petey Williams, take on the unlikely duo of Kurt Angle and Samoa Joe. You know, they say all men are created equal, but you look at me and you look at Samoa Joe, and you can see that statement is not true. See, normally if you go one-on-one with another wrestler, you got a 50-50 chance of winning.

But I'm a genetic freak, and I'm not normal. So you got 25% at best at beat me. And then you add Kurt Angle to the mix, you're a chance of winning, drastic go down. See the three way at sacrifice, you got a 33 and a third chance of winning. I got a 66 and two thirds chance of winning because Kurt Angle knows he can't beat me

and he's not even gonna try. So small Joe, you take your 33 and a third chance minus my 25% chance, and you got a third chance of winning at sacrifice. But then you take my 75% chance of winning. If we used to go one-on-one and then add 66 and two thirds percent, I got 141 and two thirds chance of winning at sacrifice.

See Joe, the numbers don't lie. And they spell disaster for you at sacrifice see Joe the numbers don't lie and they spell disaster for you at sacrifice so good it's incredible one of the best ever yeah i think when you search Steiner on youtube it fills in math like that's the first hit that comes up um but to answer your question um But to answer your question, where I land on a brawn breaker is way too many people have this spear as the finisher and I'm fucking sick of it. You're right about that. You're right about that. Even because I understand like everyone does like a super kick now like HPK is retired, it's whatever.

But you've got Goldberg saying he wants to do one more match. He's got the fucking spear. Then you got Roman Reigns who has the spear. But then you have like Jey Uso uses the wants to do one more match. He's got the fucking spear and then you got Roman Reigns who has the spear but then you have Like J Uso uses the spear to set up the frogs gosh, and then you have Ron breaker That's got the spear Bobby Lashley who just went to a WZ. He's got the spear edge has the spear It's like we can't all have the spirit. What do we do? It's almost what too many people have made it an iconic finisher

Back in the day was Rhino with with the fucking Gore, Edge with the spear, Goldberg with the spear, Roman then came in, does a great spear so everyone's like, alright, you're cool, you could have it. He was almost grandfathered in, he wore the 42 before they did that league wide. And at this point, that should be retired. I don't think you should be able to just fucking Johnny Kickpads comes up but the spear's my finisher No, that's why like I give Brock Lesnar so much credit for coming up with something really cool because it's almost five

Yeah, oh you you used to play professional baseball and you failed at it. Well now you have a spear get it Yeah played football spear. There you go. And that's what they did with all the football guys. They really did So it's like in bra breaker too. So I don't know That's why I if i'm him like do something because especially it'd be one thing if roman wasn't the top guy but it's like that's the top guys yes finish agreed yeah uh here's another take i've got there's too many titles at this point there are too many titles, specifically the women's division. Just looking down the list, I went on Wikipedia to the WWE personnel page and

I got the women's roster. I think it's 22 names, including Scarlett, who is more of a manager. But that was what it was, 22 names. If there's two main champs, they're introducing an Intercontinental champ and a United States champ. There's the Speed champ, which is a different show, champ and a United States champ. There's the Speed champ, which is a different show, but there's the Speed champ. Then there's two Tag champs.

You're telling me seven members of the 22 person roster are holding the title over 30% if we're doing Stein or Matthew, over 30% of the roster of champions. What does the title mean if 30% of the people have it? If we're all champions, nobody's a champion. And like, one of my friends actually tweeted this. He's like, mid card titles like are kind of stupid to begin with. It makes sense from a perspective above wrestling when you're like, all right, the one title could go to the face of the company.

The one title could go to the workhorse. Like back in the day, it was one title is on Hogan or Warrior, one title is on Brett or Sean. In the actual context of wrestling, midcard titles are strange. It's like, what does this title signify? Well, the best. The best? Well, no. Like the best is the main title. What does this one signify? I don't know. It's cool. Like they don't really make sense. So to introduce them to a division that's so small to begin with, I don't like. I don't like it either. Like I mean, I consider myself a very dedicated WWE fan. And I was

looking at the bracket last night when they were they had the tournament for the women's Intercontinental title. And I was like, I don't night when they were they had the the tournament for the women's Intercontinental title And I was like I don't even know some of the names that are on here like one of the women that was in the Three-way match with Shayna Baszler last night. I was like, I don't even know who this woman is and she's competing for She was one You know, I'm like I don't even I've never even heard of you I I have never seen you before. I don't watch NXT. But I was like, is this an NXT wrestler that got a call up to the main roster? Have you been on the main roster before?

I don't know. So yeah, I mean, I'm all for- By the way, new NXT referee is a former Roughen Rowdy champ. For real? Yeah. Vicky D, who was like the Roughen Rowdy champ from from New England isn't signed to NXT. She's a referee now Oh, yeah, so we lost her but kind of cool Yeah, there was it you know how like the the WWE ID program that they're doing yep. They just brought in someone from Sagas oh

No way. I don't know who it is I mean, I don't know this person in real life, but I saw like a like Sagas mass and I was like, oh hell yeah, yeah brother. So let me ask you this. If you got to know the person in real life and they were really cool, you got to like become friends with the person. And they were like,

what do you think about me using the Sagas rocket as a nickname as an homage, would you let it happen? Absolutely. Also like I'm trying to get the Sagas high mascot canceled because it is of it's native American. So I'm like, I'm trying to get the Sagas High mascot canceled because it's Native American, so I'm trying to get the Sagas Rockets. If they became the Sagas Rockets, instead of they're the Satan. You sponsor the whole school, you've got the gym, the Caravans Gym.

All of that would be nice. There is a guy that in my town would would sponsor like all the little league shit every year and growing up you have this like cartoonish view of like he must be in a fucking penthouse sky rise like they were gonna think that you're in a 50 second floor penthouse in Saugus. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, that's the play. But I'm working on it. That's the play. I'm working on it. Before you continue though, I was saying I'm all for women getting more opportunities in

professional life. It's not an anti-women thing. It's the Sajid era. But they threw two new titles. How is the IC title supposed to shine when they're just like, we're doing a women's US title. Now we're doing a women's Intercontinental title. It's like they haven't even crowned either one of them yet. Yeah, not a women's issue, roster size issue. Yeah, very much so. Also when Raw is two hours and I know they're Netflix is going back to three,

I think, right? Yeah. But also Netflix, they're gonna have to figure that out. Next month, Tyson Paul was shaky. I mean, you know I love WWE, but do you really think that 130 million people are gonna watch the debut? No. Not as many people are gonna watch it, but if Tyson Paul was that bad, and it's still that bad.

Like if you go to watch it now, the stream is still just. The Brady roast didn't crash out True Brady, right? I don't think they're gonna watch that live. Yeah, hopefully it goes well. I'm actually looking forward to the debut I feel like they're gonna do some crazy shit on the debut to be honest It is a high bar It is a high bar that they're gonna have to set there and me and my brother were also saying Start fucking dropping the main titles on Raw and SmackDown again. Yes. Make that mean something once or twice a year.

We're not asking for crazy shit, but when it's like, Oh my God, there's a title match in the main event of Raw tonight. And you think in your mind, this could, this could, you know, change hands tonight. We could be seeing confetti tonight. That's like a special feeling that they robbed from us. I even think back when Roman won it raw and Vince was the special guest referee against Seamus Years ago. It was awesome. It was 2015 For him after they boot him out of the building for the rumble. Yeah people love biggie one on raw

Biggie one on raw it was in Boston. Yeah cashed in on lashley. Yeah. Yeah biggie Boston yeah cashed in on Lashley. Yeah. Yeah, biggie Remember remember when I hit AJ Styles won the title at the house show show we were at Yeah, Kevin Owens AJ stars those like that stuff is awesome do more of that on predictability is great Especially now in the social media age where it's like there's gonna be a million angles of it No matter where you do it just the US title though Was that the US title though? It was, yeah. Yeah. So it was like, yeah. Yeah.

You mentioned Biggie. We gotta talk about the new day. They start breaking up over the last couple months. Xavier and Kofi are having issues and it's really well done. The segment they had the week before yesterday where they were like following him to the back and they started digging like mean insults at each other like the only

Insults that you would have if you were friends for 10 years holding that shit back He brought up the Brock Lesnar match Kofi brought up the fact that Xavier's never won a singles title. He never will he's not good enough and then they say the 10-year anniversary is happening on Monday and Me and Nate were talking about it at the office. I Said as a longtime New Day fan. I don't want to see them break up. I see this as the perfect opportunity for Big E to come back and reunite the gang. We want to see the squad back together. And Nate said to me, no, no, no, that's too obvious.

You have Big E come back and you have Kofi and Xavier turn on him immediately and say why did you come back now? It's been awfully convenient when we're already about to break up. I Called this guy an idiot. I was like you're so dumb. We want to see the new day together I said they could do that in a month We at least want to see the new day together one last time we got that robbed from us when Biggie got his neck injury We couldn't see like one last harass the new day this fucking guy was right to a tee I think he had the fucking script they they come out they announced where I were gonna go our separate ways I think this is the time biggie comes out. He says I'll be your manager. I thought he was gonna say I got cleared

Obviously, that's not something you can control storyline wise. That's like a medical thing this Segment does make me think maybe he's getting closer to getting cleared. I think he's art feels like that you think so I don't think you start this storyline without knowing if he was cleared though If he was cleared does he take like a super kick from Kofi last night? No, because like I think I Think you build up the viciousness of the new evil new day the new new the newer day like their their words hurt more than any super they heard so bad dude the way they talk to this guy oh my god you broke your neck so what they were saying oh he was like he literally he was like I broke my neck

They were like so what get out of our ring the way they were talking to him Even they were talking to his girlfriend today on Twitter. Yeah, you sent me the tweet this morning She was like I you know, we just bought a house. I was gonna make vegan shit for Kofi. I was gonna make Childish shit for Xavier's got a kiddish palette and he's like like, yeah, it saves me acting like I enjoyed that bland ass meal. Yeah. It hurt me to my core. And I was thinking, I broke up with Kofi, our tag team at WrestleMania, New Day Fox. This is your fault.

It could be. We were talking about like, Seth, you created Roman. Did I create this Kofi when I said he was the Marty Janetti of our tag team? I don't know. But it broke my heart watching the new day go down like this. Although the wrestling fan in me can also see it was a really well done segment and a really unique breakup for a tag team. We haven't seen something like really like that before.

No, it's very unique because very rarely do we see like a three team faction. That's as popular as they were. It's like, all right, what do you get the doublies and spike? Like, I mean, where else are you going to get like a three Pete? But I saw this because I'm not I'm not an anime guy. Maybe I'll ask Tyler Millican, my my section 10 co-host, but someone on TikTok was talking about how this is taking a story from Dragon Ball Z.

Oh, which I know Xavier's very, very into. They had that entrance at 32. And he was explaining how like there's a good guy and a bad guy version of like these two guys a good guy and a bad guy version of like these two guys and that like a couple weeks ago they were wearing their costumes like the good guy and the bad guy and then and they put a lot of detail into the attire what they wear and stuff that does like play a factor yeah and Kofi was wearing his symbol on his necklace for that segment last night So interesting. Yeah, it's almost like they are Taking that acknowledging that out. Yeah. Yeah with Biggie. I don't know how that Dragon Ball Z story plays out but it seems like they were this if he's cleared Does this build to a handicap match at WrestleMania? I don't know if you can do a handicap match.

That's what I was thinking. It's like, do you put biggie over that much? I don't know. Maybe. Or is it biggie versus Covey? Xavier's his manager, something like that. Xavier's in a shark cage above the ring. Yeah.

Cause who else do you introduce to this equation that could like, because you don't need to like even things up like you like I feel like it is kind of a fair fight if it's big versus both. Yeah. Maybe not a fair fight. It's not like that like Xavier is obviously the weak link of the crew if you were to do that. But like, in terms of storyline, he's not a jobber.

He's a tag champ easy Hall of Famer yeah and so as far as WrestleMania in general then where are they going with WrestleMania this year are they doing the Seth Punk match we didn't get last year if they do that are we getting Cody versus Cena where does the Rock come into the picture we get in the rock first Roman. I think we're getting rock Cody We're getting rock Cody. What is Cena doing? Orton seen a punk one last time orton Cena orton I could see that yeah, cuz I mean ready, but might be working

He'll buy that seems the favorite to win the rumble right now, I think. Or no, Rockist. But I think it's one or the other. So it's like if Cena wins the rumble, he's going for a title, he's going for 17. If Rock wins, can Cena still go for the other title? Maybe. Do you do Cena punk Seth Seth triple threat for that title. It'd be sick. I don't know.

And it, and it takes a little bit of the load off Sina coming in, but Sina, it's not like Sina is going to be a part timer this year. He's working like 30, 40 dates. I don't know, Bob. There's a weird, I mean, it's two nights. It's two nights. They could have two matches as well. They could do what they did this year where night has kind of effect

It wouldn't shock me seen as a sicko Yeah, he might be like this is my last WrestleMania. I'm doing it twice That'd be cool, you know see that versus so-and-so to get into a title match night, too Seen versus so-and-so to get into a title match night two They have to do the your scene of verse Orton They have numbers Orton night one to get into the title match and try to break the record night two because they're both tied Right now, right? Yeah, so it's Wait, are they tied? I think they are I think Orton's got 16 Let's see

We're all the heavy so you could play it up like they're both so desperate to get one last title match to Let's see Like Cody's obviously I think Cody's obviously going in champ But does he drop it at maniaia who does he drop it to is he dropping at the scene is he dropping it to punk even is he dropping it to the Rock so he could go on a movie tour bring the title with him the Rocks already got that one fake title he brings around I still I mean I know that

like Muhammad Ali gave it to him but it's like come on but I the more I think about it and think back to WrestleMania, I feel like we learned that he gave that to Muhammad Ali to give to him. See this sucks because I'm trying to do a control F and I was like alright I searched like title reigns and it's, it's just picking up Roman Reigns. Most title reigns in WWE ever. It says world championships, WWE. This is Randy Orton has 14, but I don't see it. It has not positive.

That's right. It's seen as supposed to have 16. Yeah. Flair's got 16. Cena Cena's with them at 16 according to Wikipedia. And then Triple H and Randy Orton. Triple H and Randy Orton have 14. But I think I remember them being tied.

I could be wrong about that. Someone that knows is definitely screaming at the screen right now. Yeah. And you know what? They kind of do lie to us because it's like what championships count, which ones don't. Flair is more than 16 if you really counted all of his. Right. What? The NWA title and all that? That shit. And I think they count that, but they don't count other ones and territory days and all that shit.

You're wearing the Kane hoodie. I want to get your take on the Kaneverse on the indies. So it started like, started years ago with maybe a year or two ago with, with blue cane, and then blue cane got a cease and desist from the WWE. They usually can't use the name Kane. So he came back in a rainbow outfit and he was gain. Well, blue cane just had a match with gain. And yeah, now that now that we're into the cane first, it's like into the spider verse, it's they're all colliding.

Blue cane, I think is just saying, fuck it with the season's assistant. I think they just can't put Blue Kane on the posters, but he's like, come on, you guys know who I'm wrestling as. And now we have Cocaine, who has taken the wrestling world by storm, and he's way more controversial than I would have thought. Dustin Rhodes, he tweeted like,

I don't know if this is a shooter or a work, but it's disgusting. It's like, you don't know if it's a shooter or a work. You think he's dumping cocaine into his eyes? A kilo of coke every night? Come on, dude, it's a work. In the bingo hall with, and grand, we're the cocaine. It's a work, and might I add, a very funny work.

Every wrestling fan I've told that to, like there's a guy in the Indies, he wrestles in a white cane outfit and he's cocaine. Everyone is like, oh, that's great. That's really funny. Yeah. And then when you see the clip, because he hulks up when he does the cocaine. And the commentators are like, he's got an eight ball. He's got an eight ball. I know Glenn doesn't like it Does he not has he commented on it? He has commented on it. Yes on cocaine. Yes

Yeah, no. Yeah, let me see He was in the office the other day. I texted you I literally like out of a movie or TV show I looked up from my computer and Kane was standing there and I was just like what the fuck is going on He came in to do a walk with Frank the Tank so they went out and they did a walk and then they came back to the office and they just sat in the gambling cave the two of them for like an hour and Cain was just telling them stories he came past me and he shook my hand and I said nice to see you and he said yeah nice to see you again I couldn't tell if he remembered me or not I was leaning on the side if I don't think he remembered me me or not. I was leaning on the side of I

don't think he remembered me. He remembers. He's a politician. I'd like to hope I think he would remember you because you guys had more of a connection. He followed me after. Yeah. He didn't follow me after anything. I think he gave me the politician handshake. I can't I can't find the clip but I did see that he did comment on it and he wasn't a fan of it but that's not gonna stop me from being to call. He's the mayor now. So it's like yeah. Yeah, I mean I I Approve of it Because I don't think it's in a mocking sense like if I felt like I like came not mocking Kane no

No, it's like it's like a goof. It's like a joke version of Kane for sure But it's not the joke isn't like Kane's an idiot, right? Yeah, I think he said like, you know I don't love it. He has to say that because he's a politician. He can't say yeah, I love the cocaine guy But he did kind of say something to the effect of like, you know, it's nice to be remembered, you know, like, yeah, they've kind of like, legacy alive. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's the kind of thing that like you would make that in Smackdown vs. Raw. And it would be hysterical online and a million people would download it. But like the fact that indie wrestlers have the also like.

The sense of humor to be like, fuck it, I'm just going to be a joke wrestler. I like that. Yeah, absolutely. The only other thing I wanted to talk about on this from the top rope special is big boom AJ's wrestling debut. I saw that. I was watching live brother. Where are you?

Are you your Costco guy? Yeah. I don't know that I like I'm a car. I'm not even a big Costco guy But that was just how could you not want with the bristler walking out? I'm not a hater. I'm more just fascinated By them. Yeah, and you gotta admit for a fucking pre-show match. Oh my god. It was great They had the crowd on their feet the spear at the end big justice the Rizzo are doing the fucking face every time They cut their big show walking out holding this hand.

It's pretty great. Yeah, so I think they definitely have my respect, no doubt, because like Big Boom AJ was a pro wrestler before, it would be totally, like remember when like the Ball family was on Raw? Oh yeah. And they made a mockery of professional wrestling. They made a mockery of they did make a mockery of it. They made a mockery of professional wrestling. So it's like, when you have these hot personalities in pop culture,

and then you bring them into professional wrestling. You can make a mockery of it. But like, big boom AJ, it's like this is, it was cool to see him like live out his dream. Like imagine it's just like, yeah, it was the promos he He was cutting all the tweets were making me laugh. They were like, you can take the guy out of the Indies, but you can't take the Indies out of the guy. Every promo we cut, he would mention the building, who he was facing, where to watch it. He was like hitting all the in the pre show weigh in whatever.

He like named the power boom. So people knew what to look forward to as his finisher. His punches looked incredible. He has got maybe the best punches in the business. He put together a respectable match on a broken foot, came into the match with a broken foot. Yeah. Yeah. So it was cool to see him like someone that I know appreciates the art of professional

wrestling get that opportunity and have that pop. He gave up the dream like 20 years ago too. Yeah. Funny to think 20 years ago he said, all right, I guess this isn't going to work out. And then got to go in front of a sold out arena. Yeah. Have people going boom, boom, boom, going crazy for him. I'm sure he's going to get enough.

He's going to get enough. He definitely is. They said like, we'll have you back anytime. He's like, all right, I'll be back. Well, it wasn't already said him verse Moxley for the title. Wasn't it? They're the third most viewed professional wrestling clip of the year.

Yeah, it was the Joe Hendry NXT. Yep. What was number one? Was it WrestleMania? Probably like the Undertaker return. Maybe the Undertaker return and then I think it was Big Boom AJ. Crazy. Yeah.

Fucking crazy. He was in the office because they filmed part of that in our office with like Jack Mack. He was holding the cookies that QT smacked out of his hand. Yeah. So QT introduced me to Big Boom AJ that day. He was like, oh this is Robbie, he does the wrestling stuff here. Big Boom AJ that day. He was like, oh, this is Robbie He does the wrestling stuff here and Big Boom AJ this guy we were about to film something. He just cracked Yep, he fumbled his phone. He was just like, oh, that's great. You're the wrestling guy

Let's do something together one day fumbles his phone gives me his phone. He goes put your number in that phone So put my number in the phone 20 minutes later I just get a text and it says boom with the boom emoji. And I knew exactly who it was from. Yeah. And we haven't talked since then. And I'm not like I need to reach out to him.

I talked to QT. I actually did an interview with QT yesterday where he broke his silence first time after getting doomed basically. But that was good. Go check that out for sure. Maybe some things will come with Big Boom AJ and Barstool in the future because he seems to dig the office. We tried to do the way in at our office before they were going to do it on TV in the ring. We're going to do

it at the office. Yeah, I mean, like I, the reason why I have so much respect for Big Boom AJ is he is the gimmick. Like he doesn't ever turn on. He's the gimmick to such a degree. We made the sweatshirts. I hope I'm allowed to say this. We made sweatshirts like partnered with them. Yeah, that holiday sweaters. We bring the boom for Christmas. Yeah. And the first draft of it. He wasn't wearing his plain black hat. And he told the design team like, like, you got to have me in my plain black hat. Like that's the gimmick. Yeah, that's a gimmick, bro. He understands it. Yes. Yeah. Well, he's got a red like John Cena. Yeah. He's like, I got to wear the same

thing every time and then you remember me. Yeah. Yeah. Like that. Yeah. Yes. 100%. That's that's what like I have definitely taken that same page where it's like you have wrestling brain to like market yourself and oh yeah, in the content world and he just to a T nailed it. Yeah. All right. We brought the boom today. Thank you for joining me. We're gonna have to do this more often. Let's do this before the Royal Rumble. We'll do a pre rumble pot I think would be fun. And then yeah, do a post of course. So um, I as of right now, I think would be fun and yeah do a post of course so um I As of right now, I think I have nine guys in my rumble pool and So I mean what we're trying to do we're like we're gonna do the numbers this year

And I was like I'm gonna keep that open spot for Bob Fox if he wants it Just just so we can have I would love to get in on it. Yeah, 10 guys, three numbers each. So yeah, it's the we watching in person. Oh, yeah. Oh, I would love that. Yeah. I mean, we're all here. Where are you this year? Right? Isn't it a February 1st? Weird. But yeah, I'll come up. I'll take the train up. That would be fucking incredible If you came it'd be so much fun. You can stay here. You don't even have to get a hotel Got it. That would be fun. Yeah, let's do that. I'm in yeah, they're called dork parties and we've been thrown around the idea of

maybe maybe doing like little mini pods between everyone because I'm going to build a bar out here for like section 10. So we're going to do like live streams for the Red Sox games and then afterwards we have like a studio set to do like a podcast after. So I was like, well, I mean, I have all my friends over to watch the pay per views. Like, why don't we just turn the mic that would be fun. Yeah, so everyone Yeah, so Yeah, my girlfriend has dubbed us. It should be like, well your little dork parties And then that became the name of our group text and then I was like, yeah My mom's face. Yeah. Yeah. So I was like, all right. Yeah the dork party chat and I was like

Well, why don't we could flip on do a little podcast of the d dork party podcast. So I don't know. We'll see what happens. I'm so into that idea. All right. Until next time, Robbie Fox, Jared Kravitz. We'll see you later.