My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 406 - NERD NEWS (OSCAR NOMINATIONS, GOSLING IN STAR WARS, AND MORE)

Episode Date: January 24, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement, and a very special free swim edition of My Mom's Basement. Credit to Eddie for coining that term, I believe. It's Robbie, Fox, and Clem. We're back. We got no show to recap, but we got a lot of news to break down, Oscar nominations. We've got Star Wars news, Marvel news, movie news, and more. Clem, how we doing? Doing great, Bob. We were out of fresh content to review.
Starting point is 00:00:35 And back in the day, that would drive, you know, that would be kind of like, oh, we get a little bit of a break, but we had a little bit of a winning streak there, you know? I know we did. It was nice. Like we had shows that we liked liked we had shows that were fun to break down. It wasn't a drag It wasn't a slog so yes, it is a little yeah, it sucks There's shows coming back that I love but they're not like basement shows I'm sincerely appreciative to those two shows for giving us the highlights we had I actually might go back and rewatch a little bit of the creature commandos and just kind of like,
Starting point is 00:01:07 I'm gonna just watch GI robot just kill a bunch of nuts. I think I'm just gonna do that. It's a good week for that. Some housekeeping before we get into the actual episode. Wanted to remind everyone I'm doing video game streams now. I teased them forever and now they're actually happening. Every Tuesday at 4 p.m. I'm playing Marvel Rivals from the Barstool office, the Pup Punk studio in the Barstool office.
Starting point is 00:01:32 And this week I played as Deadpool. Guess what, Clem? I ordered a new costume for next week and I'll be doing it up like a huge streamer. You know, I'm going to be the next Kai Sinatra, the next Ninja, the next Nick Merckx. I don't even know who all these streamers are, but I'm having fun with it. I'm getting better every stream. I feel like there's a place for you in that world, Bob. I feel like at least your appearance, your body type, I feel like there's a spot for you.
Starting point is 00:01:57 It's kind of fucked up that there's not already, again, someone who knows nothing about streamers, but I do think there's definitely a spot for my guy, Bob. Also, I have interviews with Sheamus, WWE superstar Sheamus and Travis Mills, who hosts Help A Minute Secret Relationship on MTV. He's also the singer of a band called Girlfriends that I love. They're both live now. Next week, an interview with LS Dunes will go live.
Starting point is 00:02:21 They're a pop punk super group with members of My Chemical Romance, Circus Survive, Cohed and Cambria, it's awesome. And then next week, Travis Mills and the LSDunes interview will be paired on the podcast feed. One other note, housekeeping wise, all of the Pup Punk vlogs are now live on the Pup Punk channel. So if you're interested, my band Pup Punk
Starting point is 00:02:43 did a huge tour last summer, we did nine dates summer and fall We have a vlog for every date Nick Hamilton edited the hell out of all of them. They all look great So check those out if you're interested. It's a fun behind-the-scenes Pup punks almost famous if you will I Love it. The think about where this band's gonna be in ten years and how we're gonna look back at those vlogs Yeah, and then I have an update for all the listeners out there, all the watchers out there. Daredevil, I have started this series. I'm four episodes in and I'm loving it.
Starting point is 00:03:14 I made the mistake, not made the mistake, but I started Daredevil with Lady Fox and it was gonna be like one of our new shows to get into. And then she went on a work trip the entire week this week and she has a work trip the entire week next week. So it's like we started it and now it's going to be like, yeah, we need more Daredevil. But four episodes in I said it feels like an incredibly violent SVU style superhero show like a lot of SVU vibes, which I didn't expect but I love has a little bit of a Batman begins feel to it.
Starting point is 00:03:41 I know we got to compare everything to a Nolan Batman movie in one way or another. But it does like there's scenes by the docs that remind me of that. There's a little bit of the where is she in his voice right now. But it never feels cheesy even a decade after it came out. New York is so clearly New York that I really appreciate it. It might be like a New Yorker thing to say, but so often you watch something set in New York and you're like, yeah, that ain't New York. That's Atlanta or Vancouver or Hollywood. This is like, oh, they shot in Hell's Kitchen. That's awesome. And Kingpin from the first scene he's in the show handled perfectly. He's awesome. So yeah, I'm in on Daredevil. I'm excited about it. I'm loving, you know, I saw the hallway scene within the context of the actual show, everything about it. man on I
Starting point is 00:04:26 Have found a few options for the season one recap on YouTube. Listen I'm not sure changing the listeners and the viewers here. I could go with the three-minute recap No, no, no, no, no, we're going with like the 23 minute. We're gonna do it right We're gonna give a little bit of appreciation to you know, the newest oldest member of the MCU that's coming in here So I found what I found for season one and two. I don't know where it goes from there. But yeah, very We have to do you have to do a full-blown daredevil and punish I feel like we need to know the Punisher now too Bob. I know it's like two seasons worth of Punisher, too I think you do the first two seasons of Daredevil
Starting point is 00:05:05 Then you start Punisher then you go back to Daredevil then you finish Punisher something like that. It's a lot of television I don't know if Lady Fox will be on board for the Punisher as well, but else she likes John Berthold I don't think there's any women in the world that don't like John Berthold who is now part of Christopher Nolan's next movie By the way, congrats to our guy. Let it rip with Christopher Nolan, dude movie by the way congrats to our guy let it rip with Christopher Nolan dude John Bernthal just being the MC was so fucking awesome and the best he when he was Punisher I don't really think I knew if I knew I knew who he was I'm sure like I he's in wolf of Wall Street I think at that point But I didn't know the name and I obviously his work since then has been incredible
Starting point is 00:05:41 So I'm just very happy with all the actors we're getting into the MCU. Yeah. And also you mentioned that 23 minute recap thing. I had to do that recently with Severance, which I know you said you want to get into. I love Severance. I think like one of the best seasons of television I've ever watched.
Starting point is 00:05:58 So intriguing. So it's a slow burn, but it's such an interesting sci-fi mystery. Great cast, Christopher Walkett, John Totoro, Adam Scott. So, so, so good. So it's a slow burn, but it's such an interesting sci-fi mystery great cast Christopher walk at John Titoro Adam Scott so so so good, but the season is so Convoluted and confusing at times that when season two came back. I was like man I should watch the whole season again didn't have the time I watched like a 33 minute or something, you know recap video and same thing like you I was like I could show this
Starting point is 00:06:23 Whatever, you know, I could 10 minute video or I could show it the respect of a 33 minute video you got to do that with severance and if you catch up in time maybe we'll do some severance recaps in the podcast it won't be like every episode we're recapping a severance episode but I know people have asked about that and yes I am watching it and I'm loving season 2 so far. Yeah little update from my end I got all the way to season 1 episode 1 hit play and I had some sort of network error Go on. Oh, no, and I was just like I I just can't deal with this right now I was like I just needed this I actually thought I just need this to be as seamless as possible
Starting point is 00:06:58 I don't know what it was if it was the TV the server or whatever. It just didn't work and I was like Oh, that's a fucking thorn in the side for 7 to 2. So we'll see. But again, I've heard nothing but great things about it, except for the three people I asked right before watching it and all three said, I just didn't like it and I feel like I'm the only person in the world. Oh damn. Damn. It is, like I said, a slow burn and it's very confusing, but like not so confusing that you can't follow. It's just confusing and they're like, oh I said, a slow burn and it's very confusing, but like not so confusing that you can't follow. It's just confusing and they're like,
Starting point is 00:07:27 oh my God, what's happening? Like, what are they gonna reveal next? Let's get into Oscar nominations, but first tell everyone about Game Time, one of our favorite sponsors. You know we love getting out to live events, whether it's a concert, a football game, commanders, maybe this weekend you're going, whatever it is,
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Starting point is 00:08:51 Game Time. Get yourself some NFC championship game tickets, Bob Fox, the manager. Can you believe it? First time in my life. Bob, let me just say this. I looked at the playoff bracket and said the only way I said my biggest fear is somehow the Lions tripping up before the NFC Championship game, the Eagles
Starting point is 00:09:12 being able to host a home game and whatever team trips up those lines better come through. So I'll tell you right now, if the Manders lose, I will be as upset with you about sports as I've been since you basically wish that the Mets would lose. I was going to say since a few months ago. Since a few months ago. You will then be a solid number two on my shit list right there. I know. It's crazy. I didn't think they were going to be able to pull it off. They pulled it off. It was an amazing game and we'll see what happens in Philly now. I mean, this is like it doesn't feel real that the commanders have a chance to go to the Super Bowl. We're one
Starting point is 00:09:49 game away from the Super Bowl right now, but it's real. It's it's real life. This is happening. Faith is just thrilled too. I can see it. I put the bandana on her every week. Gotta put the traditional Instagram post up for good luck now. Yeah, it's she's all in. But let's talk Oscars. Oscar nominations are out for 2025 or I guess, yeah, 2024 movies but 2025 Oscars. That's always confusing. It's kind of like the Madden thing. Yeah, it's also like right now it's like is this a 2024 NFC championship? Because it's
Starting point is 00:10:22 I know that's confusing too. Yeah, I because I just blogged about the old chief spills when there was a twenty one championship but it happened in January twenty two. So same kind of thing. Maybe they should take that from the NFL and do like the twenty four twenty five season. Yes. Yes. Because one of the movies nominated for best picture which we'll get into here. It's a movie called I'm Still Here. It was released. I looked it up and it might have been on the festival circuit, but it was released in twenty twenty five. It was released like last week.
Starting point is 00:10:49 So it was like, what the fuck? Very confusing. But yes, nominations are out. The best picture nominations are out. Dune is actually the fourth franchise in history to have its first two movies both nominated for best picture. I think the other ones being Avatar, The Godfather, and something else.
Starting point is 00:11:08 I forget which one it was. I have the tweet here discussing them. Oh, Avatar, The Godfather, and Lord of the Rings, which we're not the biggest fans of here in the basement, but respect to Lord of the Rings, obviously a huge franchise. Some of the stories coming out about it, a lot of them are actually basement focused
Starting point is 00:11:24 because they're Dune related. So Denis Villeneuve didn't get nominated for best director, which is bullshit. Like I left Dune to being like that guy is the winner of best director. Yeah, there's nobody even close to that. It was a movie that made me feel like I knew what Jeff D. Lowe was talking about when he said, see it on the biggest screen possible. I was like, all right, I get it now. like that was a movie worth seeing in a movie theater and Josh Brolin says he's apparently gonna quit acting because he threatened that last year is like yeah If he don't win if he doesn't even get nominated this year I'm quitting acting and then he doesn't even fucking get nominated this year crazy
Starting point is 00:11:59 It's one of those things where you look back at your takes and everything after it happens like we got our winner here, right? It seems so obvious. It was like, oh, this is like, yeah, Nolan's going to be the one to hand it off to him. And it's going to be like, what a moment because they're boys. This is the thing though, to be honest, and I'm sure we'll get into it with some of the other nominations. If he just cannot get mad at award shows anymore, I went, I hit my, I hit my limit with the wire. Like I said, with the Emmys and it carries to all award shows. It's a bunch of bullshit. It's a lot of politics and it's, I mean, you can't even go back to awards. You have, you know, the MVP, I'm sure people are gonna be pissed about whoever wins the MVP between
Starting point is 00:12:38 Josh Allen and Lamar. You have Ichiro not unanimously in the hall of fame. You know what the funny thing is, Bob? All these people on Twitter are so mad about Ichiro not being unanimous. And you know what? Not one of those people voted for him. Good point. They may not have had a vote, but hey, it's just yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:57 There does seem to be just this anti-dune bias this year at the Oscars because Hans Zimmer was not allowed to be nominated because they said he used too many of his themes from the last movie. Even though it's like, it's part one and part two of the same movie, so it's like, no shit, he's using the themes from the first movie, you have to. But whatever, and Chalamet was not nominated for Best Actor. And I know you're like, well yes he was, he was nominated for Bob Dylan Best Actor. I think the guy should have been nominated against himself, and I know I'm really glazing Timothy Chalamet recently I want to be best friends with him. I want to be boys with them I think if we met we would hit it off we play video games together
Starting point is 00:13:35 We would fucking go to the movies together We'd listen to Bob Dylan together But he should have been nominated against himself in this category and it's bullshit that he wasn't even Jeff D Low listen I didn't see the Bob Dylan movie yet Jeff D Lowe is like he was amazing as Bob Dylan he was better as Paul Atreides yes I so I saw both movies believe it or not oh you did yes yes my mama club is a huge Bob Dylan fan so I said I didn't know that movies today dying to see that movie because I just read the whole audiobook oh wow yeah you went a lot more in-depth I Bob Dylan was
Starting point is 00:14:04 one of those guys is always like, I just want to know more about him. He just is like a guy has always had the music and I don't know anything about him. Seems like a pretty quiet guy in general. And shallow may. Everyone said this about it, the movie and I think it is true. It's a better the they're better performances than a movie when it's all set and interesting. And he does I could see that because the book is interesting. But it's not a book that you put down and
Starting point is 00:14:26 go, oh my God, they can make that into a movie tomorrow. It's like, you know, it's a singular event that I'm sure they stretch out and they give more of his life, but it's the Newport event is the big focus of it. Yes. And the thing about it all is that Chalamet becomes Bob Dylan. Like by the end of the movie, you're like, oh, I'm just looking at Bob Dylan. Like you forget that you're watching a movie. I will say I would have preferred the Dune Chalamet to get a nomination than the Bob Dylan one.
Starting point is 00:14:53 The other thing is, I feel like the Oscars didn't see this coming. I feel like the Oscars like, listen, we're just gonna put one Chalamet. Like who's gonna fucking complain? Like the nerd, like obviously you're gonna have the hardcore nerdy movie people who are like Chalamet this and that they didn't know that the Chalamet fucking revolution was about to take place yeah when that
Starting point is 00:15:13 college game day clip came out he had all the fucking you know the quote unquote jocks or the sports fans or whatever you want to call it and then like everyone just started researching Chalamet more more more like he went on field Vaughn's podcast seemed like a man. He did the interview with Nord war. He seemed like the man. He was funny He was knowledgeable everything about chalamet just said he's just like you or me But the guy's famous and dating Kylie Jenner, and he's the fucking Lisa on Al-gayit Yeah, exactly and the calm they didn't think the common man was gonna be riding for someone named Timothy Chalamet But he's also a fucking diehard Knicks fan. I don't did I tell you about the tweet that was that they found it
Starting point is 00:15:50 I think we did talk about that Yeah, but it's like, you know back in the dark days of the next Landry Fields era This guy is fucking winning Knicks tickets because he's a dire fan at the age like nine years old They called him Tim from New York at the point Yeah See at that so the fact that we're like and it's like poetry He's like that guy fucking ruled that guy just fucking I know he's amazing So it makes me want to watch doing right now even just talking about it on the podcast like I got the dune blu-rays for
Starting point is 00:16:14 Christmas I might go pop them in as I edit this podcast so good And he really like won me over too because the first dune movie I was like yeah, it was good I thought it was really cool like great sci-fi cool setup the second Dune movie I'm like he's the fucking Messiah he is and then he is too and the way he plays it where he's unsure about himself you just see him growing in confidence and then he has and die and then he knows kind of all these different things about whether it's bullshit or it's real he absolutely crush absolutely crushes it. He he's like lived up to the name Timothy Shalamet. He's lived up to that actor name, which is so hard to do. He deserves
Starting point is 00:16:52 if there's one person who deserves to be against himself for best actor, it's someone named Timothy. He's Lisa Nalgaib. Like it's fucking crazy. He's a self-fulfilling prophecy. Um, I but listen, 10 years ago, maybe five years ago, I could have just really just gotten all in the mix and **** angry about it. I'm sure Jeff D Lowe is probably on a campaign right
Starting point is 00:17:12 now. Probably. He's probably roasting people left and right but it's kind of like what you do with the Penguin. I don't have it in me anymore, especially with award shows that just **** them all but I would have loved to have seen it for
Starting point is 00:17:23 and II think that's going to be my movie for like the background movie as I'm doing stuff today is I think I'm not going to be playing that role. Uh but I would have loved to have seen it for and I think that's going to be my movie for like the background movie as I'm doing stuff today is I think I'm going to rock some Dune too. I just my last one. I haven't watched in probably like 5 or 10 years.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Bob Fox. You've had to have seen Dates and Confused, right? Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I was like Anderson. would be no, it's not it's a link. Is that him, right? Link later, I think but it's it's uh, oh it is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's a big time I think that is an absolute layup of a Bob Fox movie If you hadn't seen it, I'd be at Paul Thomas Anderson Who did I think what movie did Paul Thomas Anderson make that I thought was similar to that? It hasn't it's been a long time and I gotta be completely honest with you. Oh boogie nights It's probably the movie that I'm thinking of. Yeah
Starting point is 00:18:05 I'm not like in love with Dazed and Confused. Like I think a lot of people would think that I would be. Like I liked it when I watched it, but I think I was, my expectations were too high because I was like, oh my God, it's a Led Zeppelin movie. Like, you know. I'll tell you right now, Bob, rewatch it. It gets better every time. It really does.
Starting point is 00:18:24 And I hadn't seen it and I love link later Yeah, and you get a little bit of perspective when you're at a high I imagine price only you're younger closer to high school and all that stuff You know a little bit perspective now and you just have to understand It's a little bit like I think a lot of the stuff that they do with the hazing and stuff happens in college But apparently this was unique to his Texas town. So I I cannot It's just I'm just so happy to have it back in my life and the soundtrack is just somehow even better than I remember As someone that grew up remembering what everyone had the shirt the poster and the soundtrack just a fucking ten out of ten
Starting point is 00:18:54 And like some of those actors who just become like fucking you have Affleck you have McConaughey you have Our girl Joey Lauren Yeah you have um our girl Joey, Lauren Adams. Yeah. Chasing Amy. A puppy, you know. So, it's it's some cool **** Parker Posey. Um some other Oscar stuff. Amelia Perez, this movie that we mentioned when we talked about the Golden Globes
Starting point is 00:19:18 has the second most nominations of all time. 13 Oscar nominations. Second um all time tied 13 Oscar nominations, second all time, tied with Oppenheimer, Forrest Gump, Gone with the Wind, the most ever are all about Eve, a movie from the 50s, Titanic and La La Land, they all have one more with 14. It's just crazy. I know we talked about it with the Golden Globes episode
Starting point is 00:19:41 and I don't wanna sound like a broken record and repeat myself, but there's this scene in this episode where they're talking about transitioning and they're from penis to vagina. They sing it like that from penis to vagina and nobody really seems to like this movie except the Academy. The Academy has made it this amazing nominated movie. The audience score is not great. The critic score is a little better. I think the audience score is not great. The critics scores a little better I think the critics score is somewhere around 70 but even the good reviews are kind of meh about it because apparently the director is from friend France he's French and he said like he didn't do any research into Mexico because he knew what it was like just from his mind or something and people are upset about that
Starting point is 00:20:21 they're like well that kind of seems ignorant and mind or something and people are upset about that. They're like, well, that kind of seems ignorant and Zoe Saldana apparently doesn't do a great Spanish accent in it or doesn't speak Spanish very naturally in it. That's something that obviously we can't speak to. We can't tell. But that's some of the criticism I've seen about it. It's just one of the strangest things to ever happen to an award show where it's like this movie that people are acting like it's Oppenheimer, Forrest Gump and Gone with the Wind. So again, as someone who is just so done with award shows and just hates so much about the fucking fart sniffers
Starting point is 00:20:51 who do it and all the nonsense they put all the audience through, this is kind of like I am with college football where back in the day before they had the playoffs, I'd say, just give me the chaos team, the team that will just piss off everyone and they're gonna say they don't deserve to be There but they get in and they just fuck everything up or they don't get in and then it was man
Starting point is 00:21:10 They didn't get in Florida State was kind of that last year when their quarterback out of her. I'm kind of hoping this thing sweeps And then it's like most Academy Awards ever and it's just boom I know not I'm not from penis to vagina vagina. That song, that's fucking original score, whatever you want to call it. And that is just the king. And it's just like and then everyone will then realize just how worthless these awards truly are. Yeah. And you know, well, that swept and won a million fucking awards. And we should not get so upset about it.
Starting point is 00:21:47 It's that you know what? That's fair enough. And to end this Oscar segment, I have listed two of the news stories around the nominations that I think actually have the upswing and make you go. All right. That's kind of cool. One of which being the substance, very fucked up movie to me more. And Margaret Qualley, is the seventh horror film to be nominated for best picture.
Starting point is 00:22:08 I thought that was kind of cool. The Oscars doesn't really recognize horror films a lot. The six before it were The Exorcist, Jaws, The Silence of the Lambs, The Sixth Sense, Black Swan, and Get Out. To be completely honest, six movies I liked way more than The Substance, but I liked The Substance. I liked more than the movie itself. I liked that it's getting recognized.
Starting point is 00:22:33 I liked that horror movies can get recognized. I mean, more performances being absolutely raved about and rightfully so. And then the other thing I had, that movie I mentioned, I'm Still Here, that came out this year. Fernanda Torres is the second only Brazilian actress to be nominated for best actress at the Oscars The first was her mother
Starting point is 00:22:53 Fernanda Montenegro How cool is that to kind of like fulfill that legacy to step into those shoes? Your mom's the only one to ever get nominated from Brazil and then you're the second that's fucking badass. That's cool Same category and everything. That's awesome. That's **** badass. That's cool. Same category and everything. That's awesome. That's I thought that was a feel good story, you know. Yes. Yeah. That's one of
Starting point is 00:23:12 those sports stats that's just so quirky. It's like you have to just yeah. In J. J. Marsh, it's wild. Wild. The wild leader is through the charts on that one even though you know, I don't know the Brazil how much they're represented in these
Starting point is 00:23:23 categories usually but still wild nonetheless if We were at a different time Where everyone didn't take everything so literal and get outraged. I think I would have wrote a blog just Crying and raging about how the penguin didn't get nominated for any Oscar And then the whole joke would be you can't get nominated for a movie award if you're a TV show, but honestly, I think that's still funny. I would like that. It's all yours if you want.
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Starting point is 00:26:49 DC because there's not a ton. The first behind the scenes photo from Supergirl, Woman of Tomorrow was shared yesterday by James Gunn. He said, thrilled to see the cameras roll at Warner Brothers Studios. Craig Gillespie at the helm. He did I, Tonya, Dumb Money. He did Cruella, movies that I really love. I think Craig Gillespie is the helm. He did I, Tanya, Dumb Money. He did Cruella, movies that I really love. I think Craig Gillespie is a great pick for this. And the phenomenal Millie Alcock as
Starting point is 00:27:11 Arcara Zor-El from House of the Dragon, of course, season one. She played the young Rayneira. Craig brings an incredible sensibility to this story and Millie is every inch of the unique Supergirl envisioned by Tom King and everyone, I can't pronounce the names of the artists that wrote it, but it is based on Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow, the book by Tom King, which is raved about, I think I've mentioned a little bit about the story in the podcast before, focuses around Supergirl on her 21st birthday.
Starting point is 00:27:36 She goes to a distant planet without a red sun so she could get drunk, so she could feel the effects of alcohol. And she meets this young alien girl named Ruth whose father was brutally murdered, and she swore to avenge her father with the sword that was fucking left in his body As he was killed metal. It's a metal ass story and it oh look at that comes got the light Oh, oh, yeah, it's badass. It's not just like Superman But he's a girl and it's fun loving and it's not like a movie for girls or anything like that. It's not just like Superman, but he's a girl and it's fun loving and it's not like a movie
Starting point is 00:28:05 for girls or anything like that. It's fucking badass, unforgiving, a story about like grief and loss and resilience pretty much. I don't know how Lobo is going to fit into the equation because he's not in the comic, but it does take place in this like unforgiving universe where I think the bat bounty hunter, everyone's favorite bounty hunter will show up pretty quickly. Uh, the whole super girl thing. where I think the bounty hunter, everyone's favorite bounty hunter will show up pretty quickly. The whole Supergirl thing, I saw you blog this going up in a bit, it'll already be up by the time we go live here on the pod. People these eagle eyes with this picture of her in the clouds and
Starting point is 00:28:35 they think that's like a shout out to her. So yeah, people think in the Superman trailer, we know Millie Alcock is going to debut a Supergirl in the Superman movie now. That's been confirmed by the Hollywood Reporter. They think that in the reflection of a robot's head, you can see her. If you look at it though, I'm telling you, it is a shape. I said it in my blog, it's like you telling me Jesus was burnt into your toast,
Starting point is 00:29:00 or like doesn't that cloud look like this, or it's a Rorschach test almost. And sure, if you look at it under the context of like, doesn't that cloud look like this? Or it's a Rorschach test almost. And sure, if you look at it under the context of like, this is a Supergirl head and this is where her body would go. And it's like, you could be like, maybe? But you can't see shit. And if this is Supergirl, if they are right about it,
Starting point is 00:29:18 I said, it's as impressed I'll be with a fan theory, conspiracy as I've ever been in my entire life. Would you say if this ends up being true, it supersedes the Boba Fett Spurs sound? Yes, agree. I think it does, because at least the Boba Fett Spurs sound, people were able to like look at the audio waves against Empire Strikes Back and be like, all right, it's the exact same audio waves. They probably use the same file.
Starting point is 00:29:44 This is just like there's nothing you could check it on. I also said the first person that spotted this should be immediately hired by the United States government and put into like counter-terrorism. Yes. Because we need your eyes doing more than just spotting Easter eggs in comic book trailers. That's Frank Abagnale.
Starting point is 00:29:59 You hire him to like find the fraud stuff, right? The person who found that is like brain level of strikers kid in x2 right yeah yeah is he william jr or i don't remember his name jason forget his name but yeah we got to put him in like a a white padded room and just make sure that that that person is not going to like use their intel and their eagle eye for any bad um and other james gunn just little things he confirmed or didn't confirm on Twitter. And I guess he's not on Twitter. I think he did this on blue sky or threads.
Starting point is 00:30:31 He's on all the other social media. He said, is he posting only on the other ones now? Has he given up? No, no, no. He, cause he tweeted that super girl thing, but he's like, he's not like responding to fans on Twitter. I feel like we're gonna be losing. He's a GI Robot guy. We're gonna be losing, yes. You know, he sees Elon and he's like, GI Robot activated.
Starting point is 00:30:51 GI Robot, if GI Robot was real, we could be down. The world would just melt. I will say that. James Gunn said, the Suicide Squad, in context to the new DCU is an imperfect memory. So certain things will be canon, like obviously some of the characters, Project Starfish I think was mentioned, Rick Flag's kid was killed and he mentioned that in Creature Commando, so all of that stuff is confirmed. But if something doesn't line up perfectly, he's like, yeah, it's an imperfect memory,
Starting point is 00:31:21 which I kind of think is fine. I've even been thinking about how they're going to. Correct the peacemaker finale with the Justice League, him seeing all them. I was thinking there could straight up be almost a fourth wall breaking line in the new season where they're like, you mean to tell us there was a universe where everything played out exactly as it did in our universe. But at the end, they saw the Justice League and Waller could be like, yep, exactly. We discovered it, but we pruned that one.
Starting point is 00:31:50 And you can be like, oh, okay. Like it could be one of those Terrence Howard recasting lines where the audience gets what you're going for and we just move on from it. He also confirmed Clayface is not dead in the DCU. He said the reports of Clayface's death have been greatly exaggerated. We knew Clayface wasn't dead. He DCU. He said the reports of Clayface's death have been greatly exaggerated. We knew Clayface wasn't dead.
Starting point is 00:32:07 He's just a little pile of mush, but if he got that much Clayface, he's still alive. Yeah, I didn't think Clayface was done. I think he's too big of a name and too big of a, too fun of a character to use to just be like, yup, let's wipe him out of this cartoon that probably a ton of people aren't going to watch. This is why you need to have a veteran
Starting point is 00:32:27 who's done comic movies or shows or whatever, comic content, and has dealt with comic fans. This is why when you hire the guy to run your studio, that's the kind of guy you should hire because he knows the craziness that's gonna come. Well, excuse me, sir, the spurs did not sound the same as it did in episode five, right? It would be the same kind of shit.
Starting point is 00:32:50 I love that nerd Clem voice. We need nerd Clem as a new character. I'm gonna try to bring him out. It's like nerd comic book guy. It's like you would be comic book guy's friend. Yeah, I'm thinking there's like the nerd characters in The Simpsons, right? There's, you have the comic book guy who's one kind of nerd you have
Starting point is 00:33:07 Professor Franco who's another kind but they have the guys who like are like the three nerds and Homer yields nerds at them But yeah, the kind of guys that are talking about I guarantee there was a meeting and it was on a calendar It was an hour plus long between Star Wars people and they're like, how do we like tease this bullfight? They go, yo, we have to use the same exact audio file or else these fucking nerds So James Gunn good move I feel like there's gonna always be inconsistencies between projects cuz a lot of times they are Don't have the whiteboard even if they have the whiteboard. They don't have every little fucking breadcrumb mapped out to a T
Starting point is 00:33:46 Disremembered different memory whatever the fuck it is. Good work by you James. Got it And that's all I really had DC was and on DC's been dominating the news for us recently But it was a quiet week for them more of a active week for Marvel We actually got the first reactions to your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man. The cartoon that was going to start off as an MCU cartoon, talk about his freshman year, and then they realized that put too much constraints on the writing and the character, so they wound up making it not an MCU story. Even though a lot of the stuff lines up with the MCU, some of the MCU voice actors return, it's a little confusing and I didn't love the animation style. I think it looks amazing in still pictures.
Starting point is 00:34:25 No pun intended, amazing Spider-Man. It looks great in still pictures but when it moves it just looks a little weird. It looks like I'm gonna have to get used to it a little bit. But the first reactions are out there great, Clem. Just reading a couple tweets, your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man is a fresh, frenetic, and absolutely fantastic remix of everything we love about Spidey. It's the freshest take we've seen on your favorite web head and forever. Benefits so much from being free of the constraints of the sacred timeline.
Starting point is 00:34:52 It's the best animated series from Marvel Studios yet. Yes, I said it. It's simply amazing. Stunning 2D, 3D animation and retro flair bring a multiversal MCU Spider-Man to life. It exceeds every expectation it seemingly is a great show I haven't seen one negative about the whole thing yet. So Bob I haven't seen anything good or bad about it I think my algorithm and your algorithm
Starting point is 00:35:15 are much different and this showing up on your algorithm would make a lot more sense. All I saw was I was on Reddit and it was like official thread for Spider-Man reviews. And I think I must have just happened to click it as soon as it was posted because there's only one reply and the guy goes, those are all paid reviews. I don't believe it. It's going to suck. And I was like, well, that just completely threw out any fucking optimism I would have had if I had read any of those.
Starting point is 00:35:43 That's the internet. And now that you read them I'm like up those are all paid That's how fucking like sick and twisted the internet to be this dude who was probably in his basement I'm gonna he just had a rip apart spider-man because it's not his spider-man or they didn't name it the one he wanted So again, I am a little I'm going in I'm going I'm going based on your Yeah, fair. I don't know. I'll give you I'll give you I'm going in. I'm going I'm going based on your view. Basically, yeah, fair. I don't know. I'll give you I'll give you.
Starting point is 00:36:08 I don't know if I can. Because if I wanted to last Jedi based on your view, I would have somehow been even more. Spidey were pretty aligned, I think. I think we're aligned on Spidey. Have you ever said anything bad about Spider-Man? Yeah, but the amazing Spider-Man movies for sure. Spider-Man 3, you know, like...
Starting point is 00:36:29 Okay, yep. I get to do that. I think I'm decently rational about Spider-Man. Someone I'm not so rational about is Captain America. And we've got some Captain America news today. Ooh, this is gonna be a... This is a tricky time for the basement right here. This movie...
Starting point is 00:36:44 I'm going to this movie like, it's a, like, if it's like a subject that you know with your girl, it's gonna just potentially end up like, I'm going into this, and it's on Valentine's Day and all that's for us here. You're pushing that talk off to the end of the night. Yeah, you're like, I don't wanna ruin the night. Yeah, but we got their budget reportedly,
Starting point is 00:37:02 $180 million on the budget, and it's tracking to open with $95 million just domestically, which would suggest that they're gonna make that budget back like that. And I texted this to Clem last night, and I took a beat, I texted to him being like, oh my God, it's great they kept the budget down with the stars, Harrison Ford coming in and whatnot, and the fact that they did so many reshoots
Starting point is 00:37:22 due to the real life stuff that they had to change and whatnot. So I was like, this is great. They kept it low. This is actually a good budget story for Marvel Studios, not like they were $10 trillion over budget again. And then I realized I texted it to Clem and basically was giving them praise
Starting point is 00:37:38 for having $100 million, $180 million budget like they were an indie movie. I was like, how great is this? They made a movie for nothing And then my reply was yeah, they'll clear that quick unless it's a bomb probably won't matter either way You're like totally like is you're like, you know what? Let's just not it won't be a body. It won't be a bomb You know, I know people are saying it's gonna be a bomb. It won't be a bomb So this is my thoughts on Captain America. It's not it doesn same, I mean, it probably has more commercials or whatever you want
Starting point is 00:38:08 to measure it. But in terms of the hype for it, it doesn't have nearly the feeling that Quantumania had, Ant-Man 3. But I do feel like I could leave the theater with the same, like, what the fu- and I don't think it would be the same reasoning, but do think like I could have the same disappointed like man they could have really made that something so much better when I leave I hope I'm wrong hope I'm wrong I've been wrong before believe it or not I've been wrong actually a lot of times but man like it's like again they're gonna be fine
Starting point is 00:38:40 they're gonna recover the budget in no time even if it is worse than Ant-Man 3. I think they'll be fine, but man, it's just It's We only have a few projects like this left where they started before when the fun this the Ironic thing is that trust the flaky light was on when these were all made and then there's a reason that the trusty flaky light Is now only on when you're the last person And then there's a reason that the trusty flag you like is now only on when you're the last person It's tricky and we've had a lot of reshoots We've had a lot of test screenings that reportedly don't have the best feedback
Starting point is 00:39:12 But I had this blog this week where I said not all reshoots are bad Because the Russos came out and they said the original portal scene from endgame was drastically changed in reshoots They said originally it all focused around Captain America and it kind of circled around him. I would assume to mirror the original circling Avenger shot from the first movie even they do want an Age of Ultron like that and then they changed it so every hero could have their own entrance which I think is I can't imagine it any differently, you know, I think that was definitely the right call. When I look at that, I'm like, all right, we got that. I Am Iron Man was like the last thing added to that movie
Starting point is 00:39:48 in reshoots. The Darth Vader scene in Rogue One was added to that movie in reshoots. Let me just remind everybody, reshoots don't always mean bad news for the movies. Every now and then, they fix the movie. Every now and then, they do what they're supposed to do, and they just fill in the gaps.
Starting point is 00:40:02 And you can't even tell the difference between what was reshoots, What was original production? One other just like cool new story about Captain America. Yeah, go ahead question about reshoots Do you think that the Khaleesi Drax arm was a reshoot? I think I Don't know if it was a reshoot or if it was just like they had no time with the CGI It looks so bad. Probably wasn't reshoot though who knows?
Starting point is 00:40:25 And then the only other Captain America thing I had, it's not even like a, kind of a new story, but Anthony Mackie said in an interview that Chris Evans was actually the one that broke the news to him, that he would be the new Captain America. So it's like life imitated art in that moment. And before they went to shoot one of the days on Endgame,
Starting point is 00:40:42 he was like, hey, have you read the latest draft of the script? And he said, no, why? He's like, oh, you gotta come down to the basement and read it right now on end game, he was like, hey, have you read the latest draft of the script? He said, no, why? He's like, oh, you gotta come down to the basement and read it right now. And Anthony Mackie was like, fuck, he wants to get my reaction to me reading that I've been killed off.
Starting point is 00:40:53 He thought that they were gonna kill him off in the script, but no, it was just him handed on the shield. And he said they just jumped around and hugged like little kids. Yeah, that was awesome. I just love how Anthony Mackie was, he was so fucking negative. Yeah, he says he's like, I'm the black guy, figured they that that was awesome. I just love how Anthony Mackie was he was so fucking negative Yeah, he says he's like he's like i'm the black guy figured they were gonna kill me. He's like it's not a horror movie, dude
Starting point is 00:41:12 Yeah, he'd be cooked if this was uh marvel zombies no doubt about it. He'd be dead But this is the mc of the real life. Um, so That was a very cool story. I have to I have to agree there life. So that was a very cool story. I have to I have to agree there. And then interesting fact here from Benedict Cumberbatch, and I don't know if we could take it as fact or if he's playing with our emotions here. He says Doctor Strange will not appear in Avengers Doomsday. They're saving him for a major role in Avengers Secret War. He also teased Doctor Strange 3 is on the way in the works.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Could this mean we're not going to get him in Doomsday, but Doctor Strange 3 is on the way in the works. Could this mean we're not gonna get him in Doomsday but Doctor Strange 3 will be the movie that comes between them? Almost like how we had that in the past with Infinity War and Endgame, Ant-Man and the Wasp bridge the gap. I think Captain Marvel was in between them exactly. Could they do something like that with him? I don't know. I think they could. At the same time, part of me would be a little surprised if Strange wasn't in Doomsday. He does feel like in a way he's sort of like a leader of the Avengers at this point. Yeah. We were saying like who's going to be in this thing? It's like, well, I mean, gotta be Dr. Strange, right? Yeah. Unless like three other guys. Does Captain America Brave New
Starting point is 00:42:20 World establish a new smaller Avengers team while strangers off with the multiverse. We have this like earth level Avengers team, maybe they team up with the Thunderbolts or something like that. I don't know. Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure it's all gonna go. Maybe one of anyone that had to deal with Tony Stark. And it's like, because it's just gonna be maybe right. And you don't have to some people were saying to this would be interesting if all of the original Avengers were the villains for this movie as multiversal variants so they were saying like
Starting point is 00:42:51 tony is dr doom obviously chris evans is fucking ronan the evil version of captain america or something and what if they were all their evil or is loki yeah maybe thor's fucking loki maybe chris hemsworth is playing playing Loki for the first time. Like maybe they do some weird shit where in this Avengers movie, you have to take down the original Avengers, you have to let the past die. As the last Jedi said, it's like, you know what, like, hey, like, like, they're like, listen, we have to we have to make an Avengers movie that people care about.
Starting point is 00:43:24 And it's gonna like, be worthy of the title. How do you guys think we're going to do that with the action figures we've been given from the last few years? And it's like, fair point. Just go back and fucking take all the end-game shit. Go grab the old bin action figures, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:38 That's honestly a fair point. I don't really have a comeback to that. As someone who admittedly doesn't have the creative juices to even think about making an Avengers movie. But yeah, that would be, that's a fun, like at least again, another good fan conspiracy theory out there. I like that. Bob, I gotta ask you this too. Can you be honest with me? Say you see Captain America before me. Yeah. How honest can you be about Captain America? Okay, I'm breaking it. I think Star Wars is the hardest, you have the biggest blind spot for.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Yes. Would you say this, you have a bigger blind spot for Captain America than Spider-Man though? No. I actually think Spider-Man might be more than Captain America in terms of blind spot because I don't have a as much a nostalgic connection to Captain America and like MC you Captain America I think throws that true Absolutely, but I always think back and I'm like my brain just must be fucking fried from you know All the stuff that I smoke or something I don't know because I think back to Love and Thunder.
Starting point is 00:44:45 I left Love and Thunder, and I was like, yeah, it was just like Ragnarok. I can't imagine someone liking Ragnarok and not liking Love and Thunder. And I was so wrong about that. Everyone that liked Ragnarok hated Love and Thunder. I still like Love and Thunder. I don't think it's Ragnarok level.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Watching it a couple times, I could recognize the times where they strayed from the path. Maybe they should have gone a little more serious where they went comedic. But I still like that movie. So like, I don't know. I might just be fucked my brain, my letterboxed. I have a letterboxed bio and it says like, I like most movies, especially if there's lightsabers or superheroes.
Starting point is 00:45:19 And it's like, I don't know. I am biased in that way. I would hope that I could be realistic with this though. Now this is part two of the question. And for the record, I'm with you. I love and thunder. I liked it when I left the theater. I watched it for the second time and I went to the podcast.
Starting point is 00:45:35 I was like, I fucking hated that movie the second time. Um, Harrison Ford, I feel like you're gonna have, I don't know if it's gonna be like, if I say how was Harrison Ford I feel like you're gonna have it's I don't know if it's gonna be like if I say how was Harrison Ford's performance And I wonder how much that skews your movie So I think you're right about Ford your and by the way we got a new story about him this week Apparently Red Hulk is in the movie for less than five minutes. I Honestly expected that I didn't, that didn't shock me. It's just like we've seen so much of him in the trailers already. It disappoints me. Like, oh, we've seen like what, like 20% of
Starting point is 00:46:14 his screen time already. I wish that we didn't even know he was the Red Hulk, which I mean, it's so hard to keep secret these days with all that stuff. But especially if there's only five minutes, I think it might've had somewhat of a chance to not trickle down to at least some like me who's not connected to the message boards and the diehard series and all that stuff and it's like now you're going in I'm happy I know this stuff because going in yeah leaving I would have been like where the fuck is the Red Hulk yeah let's tell everyone about a new sponsor before we get into some miscellaneous news stories.
Starting point is 00:46:45 It's Bird Dogs. Dressing up for the winner is very tricky for men. Always, you don't know what to wear, you don't know whether or not to do a hoodie and a big puffy jacket over that, and then you gotta check the jacket if you got to an event. It's very confusing. A hoodie makes you look like you're running late
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Starting point is 00:48:32 Oh like that that guy's good posture I've never thought about the name bird dogs until just now and we just cracked the case and it makes perfect fucking sense incredible It's like no, it's like the mow it of pants, you know Party and business all at once. Yes, all at once. This is a new story that really took me by surprise. It's a new story that I couldn't get too excited for, and you'll know the reason in a second.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Ryan Gosling is in talks to star in Sean Levy's Star Wars movie. Sean Levy, who just made Deadpool and Wolverine, made Free Guy with Ryan Reynolds before that. Reynolds, not Gosling. This time we're talking Gosling. So our guy Sean Levy, Levi, I don't know how to say it, I still haven't learned it. We don't know if he's cheating on one Ryan with another here. If Ryan Reynolds, maybe he'll be in this too and it's Ryan versus Ryan.
Starting point is 00:49:19 Because it's a Star Wars project in pre-production, I cannot get excited. I'm not gonna go through the whole spiel again, but we can't get excited for these until they actually go into production. That being said, I fucking love me some Ryan Gosling and I would love for him to be in a Star Wars project. I also think he picks pretty good projects. If you look at his resume, he's not in a lot of bad movies. So this gives me a little bit of hope, but I can't let myself get excited for it yet. Ryan Gosling is one of those guys who I really didn't have an opinion on either way because
Starting point is 00:49:49 I really didn't watch his stuff. And then I kind of like shout out man, like, oh, this pretty boy, get him out of here. Then I watched a few things. I'm like, I fuck with Ryan Gosling, pretty fucking big right now. Yeah, he's a man. So I was, I was thrilled for that. Then the Sean Levy stuff, he had all the, you know, had us in the first half kind of a thing and shitting on that. And then like, well, I like Deadpool Wolverine. And then it's like, well, for a Star Wars, you want someone who has more chops
Starting point is 00:50:15 than what you got out of Deadpool Wolverine, I imagine. So here he did some stranger things, which I do like. I don't know which episodes. We've talked about it in the past, kind of some ups and downs. But is it really going to matter, Bob? This is just going to die at some point on the vine, right? Is it even on the vine? Is it even on the vine? Has the vine even grown? No, it's not on the vine yet. It's not on the vine yet. Because Lucasfilm needs to announce it first. And then it's on because Lucasfilm announces, you know, it's not even like that means it's gonna get made
Starting point is 00:50:47 But once Lucasfilm announces it I think it's on the vine But it's one of those things where it's like the seed is in the ground and I'm hoping it grows Is it though is it this is what I'm thinking and yeah, it's getting a little into the science territory from last week I don't think that the seed has been planted. I don't think I know the vine has not grown. I don't even think that like, you know, they have the fences that they put up so the vines can grow on it. I think that there is a plot of land that's empty and they're like, that's where we're going to grow the vine. And that's it. And yeah, you're probably right. We that's where we might grow the vine. It's not even like the vine has even been
Starting point is 00:51:27 That's an option. Yes, everything's in pencil at most Yeah, as far as the Sean levy levy talk goes does he deserve a Star Wars movie? I think the answer is yes to be honest I know people shit on him for having like cookie cutter blockbusters or whatever, but like the guy knows how to make a satisfying ass blockbuster. I think Deadpool and Wolverine is as satisfying as that movie could have been pretty much. I think he could be a good guy for this. I know, I think David Leitch just got attached to Ocean's 14.
Starting point is 00:52:00 They're talking about making Ocean's 14. That wasn't one of the new stories they had on it, but some people were upset about that. I think Jeff D. Lowe was even like, yeah, without Soderbergh, I'm not sure how to feel about it. He was the guy that just made bullet train with Brad Pitt. Another one where I was like, these are people that know how to make satisfying blockbusters.
Starting point is 00:52:17 I think that's what you want. I think that's what you need. So I would be down for it if they choose to grow the vines on that plot of land. Okay. Yeah. I would like to see the vine grow. I'd like to like, and I'd like to play a protocol droid in it.
Starting point is 00:52:30 You know, I'll throw that out there into the universe. I also, I thought of this idea and I want to have your sign off on it. If this never goes anywhere. So we still have probably like two to three years to even have an idea if this is just dead on arrival or not even on arrival. Can we just start making up just rumors for Star Wars? This actor, this director, because I think at some point, people are just making shit up to get clicks. And God knows where we're going to be in two to three years in terms of trying to get eyeballs on us, we have to just start engaging in these war tactics. This is like the new Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:53:07 It's Star Wars, right? Ryan Gosling is a star, and they're just using it to get their own fucking shit. And it's starting to become the point where it's like, I can't just blame Kathleen Kennedy for everything here. At some point, there's a darker evil involved in all this. I'm just picturing us constantly DMing fake Star Wars scoops to Justin Kroll, who knows we're bullshitting him. Like, guys, I'm not picturing us constantly DMing fake Star Wars scoops to Justin Kroll who knows we're bullshitting him
Starting point is 00:53:26 Like guys, I'm not falling for this. We are way past that. This is like the headline It's a YouTube there's the picture of the actor Big yellow word big like black, you know what for this thumbnail if people clicked on this they will have already seen it I'll make this Ryan Gosling in Star Wars like that'll be the thing as if it's confirmed I'll even use like the AI I'll do an AI thumbnail of him as a Jedi You have to have a red arrow somewhere in there, right? Yeah, throw a red arrow in there Yeah, an arrow circles something circled like so people like squint and they're like am I missing something in that circle? Supergirls that's Supergirls reflection in there I can't tell um random news stories I had Aaron Paul and Jonathan Banks have both been
Starting point is 00:54:14 cast in invincible season 3 we texted about this to Breaking Bad alum this week was the 17th anniversary of Breaking Bad debuting on AMC excited about this I like both these guys. I like both their voices And just for the people at home who don't know Jonathan Banks, that is Mike Ehrman Trout. Yes Kind of speaking to YouTube. I've been watching a little more YouTube with YouTube premium I don't have ads so I'm just fucking starting to become a YouTube guy, which is very weird But I understand and also like those thumbnails do work as much as I make fun of that I don't know I better watch this one those voices are so fucking
Starting point is 00:54:51 good and unique and you said that they're both in what are they in breaking other cartoons other cartoons oh oh no um so I don't know about Jonathan Banks but Aaron Paul is in Bojack Horseman and his voice is just like it's so great It's really really good Bojack's a great show too and I think the people invincible will obviously use both those voices and I think your armature might even have like a Better voice for what you might want a superhero show is crazy and sense and I somehow I don't know how I Have this like one I like five YouTube accounts because you have all these jib and gmails or whatever and my kids have basically Rooted all my algorithms. So I found the one that they haven't ruined and that is my one little algorithm
Starting point is 00:55:30 I don't even know when I was on this account But somehow there's breaking bad stuff that's in the algorithm and it's like I just get these random scenes I had you know, this is the last time Walt and Mike Aramitrout it together and then wall meeting Just let me die and yes shrouded together and then wall meeting. Um, just let me die in this. Spoilers, Bob. I just said 17 years old. I said last time together to like not give the people at home who
Starting point is 00:55:51 haven't the one person who has it. You don't know whose voice I was doing there. So I just, I'm just so happy. So it had a little bit of like those guys in my life, a little drop of them, you know, Heisenberg style, uh, was, I hope they have a scene together, you know in my life, a little drop of them, Heisenberg style, was incredible. I hope they have a scene together, you know, and invincible, like talking to each other. That'd be kind of fun.
Starting point is 00:56:10 A little nod to fans. Ew! Yeah. This one, I don't know how much we could believe this new story either. Tom Holland will reportedly be the lead in Christopher Nolan's upcoming version of The Odyssey. This story came out from Deadline, and I blogged it, but also I blogged the part of the source that people are kind of skeptical about.
Starting point is 00:56:30 It came in a random article in the middle of it. It wasn't put out like it was like a big scoop, which it is a big scoop if it is that. It was just someone being like, oh yeah, he's the lead in Christopher Nolan's new movie. It's weird because Odysseus in The Odyssey is like, I think he's older. I think he's like 40, maybe even like 50 years old. So a lot of people assumed Matt Damon would be the star. Now people are saying, is it going to be Tom Holland plays a young version, Matt Damon plays an old version talking about the war pre and post? Is it going to be Tom Holland somehow plays the sun, but is focused on the sun, which a lot of people were like, yeah, that would suck. So probably not. I don't think Nolan would do that. I don't know how much we could believe it,
Starting point is 00:57:10 but I'll say this in 2025 or 2026, when this comes out, I am more fascinated by a Tom Holland led Christopher Nolan movie than I am a Matt Damon led Christopher Nolan movie. And that's nothing against Matt Damon, but it kind of goes back to what we talked about with Oppenheimer, where he shows up and you go, Oh, it a Matt Damon led Christopher Nolan movie. And that's nothing against Matt Damon, but it kind of goes back to what we talked about with Oppenheimer, where he shows up and you go, oh, it's Matt Damon. And it's hard to lose him in a character. I know Tom Holland is fucking Spider-Man
Starting point is 00:57:33 and it's hard to lose that as well. But I could believe that Christopher Nolan is taking Tom Holland here and making him into like an Academy respected actor. Yeah, and I don't know why Matt Damon does that for me. And again, we discussed this and we were talking on social media. A lot of people were like, for some reason, it's like just Matt Damon. It's so unfair. Yeah, he was a great actor in his own right. He's amazing. Yeah, it's not like he ever gives a bad performance. It's just
Starting point is 00:57:56 hard to unsee him. But like, in his last couple performances, Oppenheimer, air, a little bit of Ford versus Ferrari, everyone you get a little tinge of Matt Damon even then like the Martian Which is one of my favorite movies. I think I like him so much because I'm like I like Matt Damon and Mark Watney is kind of like Matt Damon and Then I do the Matt Damon voice from Team America It just comes in my head and then I can't take he is seriously because I'm doing that voice in my head. I have to just let this be known. And I know I'm not gonna be alone on this.
Starting point is 00:58:30 I am so fucking excited for this movie to the point where I am scared how excited I am about this movie because this movie, the movie is going to be massive. Christopher Nolan is fucking, I mean, he's the Spielberg of right now, right? He's the guy. He has the crown and all these actors which I feel like we just got like a couple more this week, didn't we? A couple more. John
Starting point is 00:58:53 Bernthal we mentioned earlier on the podcast but yeah, there I think there were maybe. Was Zendaya already known for this? She was already known. Yeah. And Hathaway, Robert Pattinson, the cast is insane. It's insane and it is a subject matter that I just loved again going back to when I was loving history class in high school. I don't know if I've ever been like more stoked for like a movie that is just a one, it's not part of a universe. Like a franchise. Yeah. Yeah. Like I don't, I honestly don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:23 It's the perfect combo. You take like the most epic, epic of all time, and then you take the most epic director of all, or our time at least, and then boom. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. It's like, and what a cast, like you mentioned, like you, you literally, everything involved in this is a green flag so far.
Starting point is 00:59:41 And I can, you know, I know it's gonna be very happy that I say this. Jeff D. Lowe know is be very happy. I say this Jeff D Lowe's and be very happy. I am going to see this. I'm the biggest screen with the most high tech speakers I can we're going to the Vegas fear. Be the Odyssey. To see the Odyssey. That is a fucking promise. The basement boys. We we vlog about it. We do the right. They should absolutely do the Odyssey in the sphere. I am. All right. This isn't Yellow Fonz. The thumbnail. We flew all the way to the
Starting point is 01:00:11 sphere to see the Odyssey and then a picture of Tom Holland. Right. And then it's a picture of us like looking like the hangover. Like maybe you have like a Tyson tattoo and a tooth missing and you're icing it and I have the baby or something, you know, like yeah This is a thumbnail ready to be made million views easy easy Oh, man, this fucking movie better be so and I will say this the All the reasons you listed do make sense why it won't be Tom Holland as the lead Two things Tom Holland has and no one else has in the world
Starting point is 01:00:45 He's spider-man. Yeah, he's engaged as in dying be Tom Holland as the lead. Two things Tom Holland has that no one else has in the world. He's Spider-Man. Yep. He's engaged as Zendaya. Two things that I don't think anyone ever thought Tom, oh little Tommy Holland or I have to do a British, oh little Tommy Holland. That's like Joe Gura being like an amazing quarterback and having the Batmobile. It's like, all right dude, pick one of the other You can't just drag with both in our face. Yeah Which would be leading this movie I'm sure that'll help pull up to the fucking Super Bowl in his Batmobile in a few years The only other new story had this one made me laugh and I'm saying that because it says almost I'm allowed to say it
Starting point is 01:01:22 Made me laugh because his almost an audience member almost that because it says almost. I'm allowed to say it made me laugh because it says almost. An audience member almost had a heart attack during a test screening of the new Mission Impossible movie. The final reckoning from Christopher McQuarrie and Tom Cruise, they had a test screening during one of the action sequences. This audience member almost had a heart attack, had to be taken out. And Christopher McQuarrie, the director said, I consider that an absolute win. Which if you're making Mission Impossible movies, if you're in the business of making these tense, heart pounding movies, that is a win.
Starting point is 01:01:50 And this made me go back and watch the Mission Impossible that was released the week before Barbenheimer, which we missed out on. I missed out on at least is the first Mission Impossible since two I hadn't seen in theaters. I love these movies I just was one of those people like I'm gonna be spending my whole fucking wages on Barbenheimer next week I can't go see Mission Impossible right now I thought
Starting point is 01:02:13 it was great I thought this story was very funny perfect are you a Mission Impossible guy at all Because I know you like car chases and shit. So I... I got out, I watched one, I might have watched two, this is like 90's right? Two sucks by the way. Two is the only one in the whole series that sucks. And I was like, I'm out. And then
Starting point is 01:02:38 in a million years did I never thought that this would become this franchise and then the way Tom Cruise They can guess how many there are. Do you even know how many there are? 17. No, seven. I'd say seven. All right. You're correct. Eight is approaching. Yeah. Dead on the money. So like I want to get back in them though, cause it's like, I've heard, dude, they're so good. You don't like car chases. They're so good.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Is Philip Seymour Hoffman an incredible villain in one of them? Three. He's my favorite one. He's my favorite villain in the franchise and three is the one that Abrams came in right after two kind of stunk and Abrams basically gave them the blueprint for the franchise. It was like here's how to make a mission impossible movie that people love. Great villain, great gadgets, fun stuff like make it funny, make it comedic. It has almost like an MCU flair to it in that way in the seriousness, but also the lightheartedness of it. And everyone since three has been fucking awesome. I feel like big
Starting point is 01:03:38 Al, you know, that guy on Instagram on TikTok that goes vile, his wife makes him food, gives it to the jacuzzi. Every time I watch a Mission Impossible movie, I go spectacular, give me 14 of them. But I think this one might be the last one. They're calling it the final reckoning, which does that mean it's the final one? Or does that mean it's the final one for Ethan Hunt?
Starting point is 01:03:56 Or does it mean, you know, nobody knows with movies. I mean, the last one was called Dead Reckoning Part One. And then they decided they weren't gonna make Dead Reckoning Part Two, they were just gonna call it the final reckoning. So we now have a part one of a movie that's never getting a part two, kind of drove me crazy. I feel like they should do a special edition on that one
Starting point is 01:04:13 and just remove part one from everything. Yeah. But that was just the OCD and me speaking. And that was the podcast for this week. We had a lot of stuff to talk about, Oscars, MCU, DCU, some other shit, Nolan, who knows, Chalamet and Villeneuve, maybe the next two to get lights up in the basement after this week. I feel like they should be.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Chalamet, it might just be his name, just Timothy Chalamet. Just a bust, like Batman had William Shakespeare and he hit the button to the Batcave. Maybe we have a bust of Timothy Chalamet that brings us down to the basement. I think that too. I was gonna say like a bit almost like his like signature like hot pink writing just Timothy Chalamet. Oh, that'd be nice. Yeah, maybe you can put it on a little like the ivy walls they have you know in front of clubs or yeah, like a photo shoot or something like that.
Starting point is 01:05:04 I was gonna say for Denny Villeneuve, I might need something on my desk in the basement. I don't know if I could co-sign him for you. Yeah. I don't know if you're as big a, like I love Arrival. I love Blade Runner 2049. I love a lot of this guy's movies, prisoners. I don't know if you like all of those as well.
Starting point is 01:05:21 No, I, I might have to go back and then he gets something just on my desk. I won't, you know, take up wall space for the two of us there. What for? For shallow light? No, for Denny, the director. Oh, yeah, that's fine. That's fine. I'm not ready. Again, the Dune stuff. I've... Dune could end up getting... Dune might become a pivotal part of the basement when it's all said and done depending on how it goes. But I'm gonna have to start my rewatches now, just throw it on in the background, that's gonna become part of it.
Starting point is 01:05:56 And hey, if this rewatch goes, maybe I'll just stir up those emotions and get really mad on Oscar night. This is bullshit! Powered Dune 2 not nominated for this and that. I mean, just that opening of and then the other emotions get really mad on Oscar night. This is bullshit. Hell yeah. Powered Dune Two not nominated for this and that. I mean just that opening of Dune Two that's so
Starting point is 01:06:11 quiet picks up right after the first one where you see the people floating up and it's just like that orange background. Everything about it. It's fucking awesome. I'm gonna go watch it now. As I edit this podcast, I'll be watching the
Starting point is 01:06:23 Dune movies and I'm not just two. I'll be watching one into two as I edit this podcast. All right. A little sick day lazy Friday editing podcast activity. Don't forget on Tuesday at 4pm on this channel on all of my channels and the Barstool Sports Twitch I'll be live for more Marvel rivals. Who knows I might be in a costume made for smashing. How about that one? Ooh a little tease for the people that made it to the end and let's not forget a hashtag shout out Lord david snider reminded us recently on twitter. We've been forgetting hashtags at the end of the week. We've been off We've definitely been should this one be like Gosling star wars related. Should it be nolan odyssey related?
Starting point is 01:07:02 Oscars Oscars. Oscars, Dune. Oscars, Dune. Another good chalamet is that he said he has the popcorn bucket under his bed. I know. I just said such a good line. I keep mine under my bed.
Starting point is 01:07:19 Just so fucking smooth. So suave. Oh, and he's hosting SNL and he's the musical guest on Saturday. He's doing Bob Dylan songs like as Bob Dylan is the music. What can't this guy do? What can't he do? Hashtag I fuck with shallow my house that shower tag hashtag. I fuck with shallow man All right, we'll talk to you guys next week

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