My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 407 - NERD NEWS (CAPTAIN AMERICA COMMENTS, NEW SPIDEY SHOW, AND MORE!)

Episode Date: January 31, 2025

Robbie and Clem are back for another 'NERD NEWS' edition of the podcast, breaking down the biggest happenings in the worlds of Marvel, DC, Star Wars, and more! They discuss Anthony Mackie's Captain Am...erica comments, 'YOUR FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOOD SPIDER-MAN' on Disney+, the 'Lanterns' series casting its Sinestro, the Rey movie getting a new writer, and more! Gametime: Download the Gametime app today and use code MMB to easily score great deals with Gametime Picks! DraftKings: Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app and use code BASEMENT. GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER, (800) 327-5050 or visit gamblinghelplinema.org (MA). Call 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Please Gamble Responsibly. 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), or visit www.mdgamblinghelp.org (MD). 21+ and present in most states. (18+ DC/KY/NH/WY). Void in ONT/OR/NH. Eligibility restrictions apply. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino & Resort (KS). 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min. $5 bet. Max. $200 issued as non-withdrawable Bonus Bets that expire in 7 days (168 hours). Stake removed from payout. Terms: dkng.co/dk-offer-terms. Ends 2/9/25 at 11:59 PM ET. Sponsored by DK. **************************************** My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike! Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basement You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement presented by Barstool Sports, a very special January 31st free swim edition of My Mom's Basement. Kind of a free swim edition. There was a new Marvel show that dropped this week, Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man, the first two episodes. We'll talk about that a little bit, but obviously won't be breaking that down the entire show. We got some news to talk about, we got some fun stuff to talk about,
Starting point is 00:00:30 we got some not so fun stuff to talk about. Clem, how we doing? It's the life of a nerd, some fun stuff to talk about, some not so fun stuff to talk about. That's just kind of the world, I guess, you know? There's, go to the Barstool blog at any moment, you're gonna have fun stuff and not some fun stuff. Oh my God, I was gonna say, just not, not not just nerds this week in MMA. What a week
Starting point is 00:00:46 We've had an MMA some of this stuff. I've had the blog it has been craziness I know I've been going crazy this month. I've been kind of having fun blogging this month Putting up numbees. I was like this guy is just fucking living every time I go. There's a new draft and I'm like, alright Bobby's scheduling stuff out a day ahead of time. He is rocking and rolling. The quill is hot in New Jersey right now. That's my key is I like writing stuff at night. So, I'll write stuff at midnight and schedule for the next day and I didn't realize like that's kind of maybe I'm a night owl. That's when my brain is going creatively. Not that I'm putting out these amazing blogs, but it's just easier to write them.
Starting point is 00:01:22 And meanwhile, I had a little bit of an piffy last night and this is something I almost, I was going to tweet it last night. I was like, maybe I'll just tweet it in the morning. I'll just say it on the pot instead. I was like, I think I have to just readjust my entire life and just come to groups with like nine o'clock bedtimes. I have a lot of friends who are 40 plus in their forties, we'll just say. And they're like, I don't like, I don't wake go.
Starting point is 00:01:45 I'm gonna wake past nine o'clock other than obviously when my teams are playing. But then you're just watching the games and betting you fall asleep. Maybe falls during the game. I'm like, I might have to start just re recalibrating everything. Cause I'm kind of just staying up to when the kids
Starting point is 00:01:58 finally fall asleep. At some point the kids are just gonna outlast the parents. I remember when I did it as a kid and I think I'm at that point as a parent so it's a tough admission to make on the pod but I have to do it. It's brave. Yeah there's plenty of parents who are my age, plenty of listeners who are my age I should say, that are just not in their head being like man once you come to grips I basically let go of every other part of my old life. I don't give a fuck about anything anymore. My furline
Starting point is 00:02:24 crocs are my number one footwear when I leave the house now. Which by the way, Bob, little tangent here, just to start the free swim off. I'll tell you, man, these like middle schoolers, they have fashion down. Like I see these kids that are going like, if I'm like dropping AJ off at school or we went to get a haircut the other day with him. And they're like a bunch of kids from middle school, pajama pants, crocs, and I'm like, man, I was born, I was truly ahead of my time. I was talking about this with my cousin the other day because we had my niece's birthday party, it was nice, and my cousin's a principal, so he said it's crazy, all these kids, they wear wear pajamas they wear slippers to school and I said credit to them they want to be comfortable they're in a place that they absolutely hate odds are and they want
Starting point is 00:03:09 to be comfy I like wearing sweats to work so I get it and I'm with you I know I was never a pajama pants to school kind of guy mama fox would not allow that kind of thing rab they're gonna call daifus on me rab but I would like like you like to go back and not go back in time go forward in time I'm not a fan of the lab. Um but whole family as they worked as they went to school from home and then it just like it never changed back to normal but I remember the transition like fifth grade you could get like everyone wore sweatpants fifth grade once you got to sixth grade in my school once you went to middle school if you didn't go jeans and I was one of the last adopters of jeans it's like dude look at this little baby over here wearing sweatpants still and I hated jeans and I wore them for years
Starting point is 00:04:05 And years and I remember wearing them to barstool and then and then something changed Where I just would see like people in like just straight up mesh shorts and i'm like, yeah This is what jeans at barstool you come in and people are like would you have a court date today? Like why you dressed up? executive It's like cito anywhere else. So I just shout out to just the world. I love that. It's almost gone too far though.
Starting point is 00:04:29 I was at the army in an order name game at Yankee Stadium in November. And I saw a girl wearing slippers like, all right. You know, like, you know, like the moccasin looking slippers and I'm like, you gotta be wearing shoes during this. There's puddles. So I do think it's kind of a little bit that way. But man, as a parent, I've just kind of let everything go. And I just have to embrace the nine o'clock bedtime even though I'm not really I guess I am waking up early a few weeks, we have
Starting point is 00:04:53 630 in the morning, full energy again, and he's just running around the house. So Bob Fox, he's just getting started at that time. He's starting first of four blocks and then so it is two sides of the basement here. I'll start blogs on the couch and it always reaches a point of the night where Faith will just get up and go to our bed. And that's my cue of like, she's telling me, all right, it's time to go to bed.
Starting point is 00:05:15 And I'm like, all right, all right. You mentioned your friends entering your 40s, PFT and Big Cat, happy birthday to them this week. PFT today, Big Cat yesterday, Riggs as well. My original boss here, Riggs is not yet 40, but happy birthday to them this week. PFT today, Big Cat yesterday, Riggs as well, my original boss here. Riggs is not yet 40, but the two of them turned 40. Congratulations to them for turning 40, getting old. Maybe we'll send them this clip
Starting point is 00:05:33 and tell them what they have to look forward to. 9 p.m. bedtimes. Big Cat does not get the clip. He is still persona non-crowded. True, he's banned from surviving bars. Little did I know how controversial Big Cat would be when I made that prediction, when I made that statement, like in like a month.
Starting point is 00:05:49 You're like, everyone's going to be mad at Big Cat for voting Robbie off in the finale hits. And it's like, well, I don't know if that was it, but... Robbie was on the show? When they showed flashbacks of me in a few episodes, like they showed a flashback of everyone pulling the wrong idol and everything. And I had multiple tweets like, forgot you were even on the show. I was like thanks buddy really appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Also shout out uh Chuck. Chuck yeah his birthday is as well. I didn't realize it was a triple birthday that him, Riggs, and Big Cat they all text each other. Infamously the first Riggs birthday with Big Cat was one of the funniest things that took place. It was when we were all in the same office in New York and it was like being born the day the president was born and no one Yeah, fine. Fuck just coming in all day treats presents. They all say Dan on them. None of them say Riggs on him, unfortunately. But I was Riggs's intern that first birthday and I think I got him like a coffee that day or something. I was like, you don't have to pay for coffee. That's why you're here, Bob. That's why you're here. Shout out, Rick. I'll always text him on his birthday and be like, hey, thanks for my life. Quick basement keeping before we get into the actual bulk of this show.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Marvel Rival streams every Tuesday at 4 PM. I've been having a lot of fun with it. They're on this channel. They're on the Barstool Sports Twitch. I think tune in, join. I've been playing with the chat. Last time I actually played the entire time I streamed, I had like six basement listeners on my team. Shout out Willie Trill. Shout out Crest on my chest. All of these people that have been helping me and get dubs. It's been a really fun time. So check out the mobile rival streams. The usernames that we're going to get every week is I think the most exciting thing for me, especially if you're dealing gamer names gamer names and chat names both are could go a lot of different ways So that's my favorite part about it. And my god, you're improving right in front of our eyes I am improving and if you want to add me so you could play on Tuesday
Starting point is 00:07:36 Here's the way to like play with me on Tuesday add cap was right 37 That's my username cap was right 37 and Tuesday at four, just request to join a game. It'll come up on my screen. I'll click add. And it's very fun. I'm going to try to like add comms to everyone's like you got to wear a headset so you could talk to your teammates be like, you know, eSports level with it. That I'm also like maybe that's a little risky just letting whoever talk on stream.
Starting point is 00:07:59 I don't know these people yet. But hopefully Tuesday we'll figure that out and I'll be frigging cracked. We had a whole, I remember debate on Game Time once upon a time about if we could let Stooley's on a live broadcast on a Twitch or whatever. I love you guys, I trust you guys, but also like we need to make sure you don't get us canceled.
Starting point is 00:08:17 If I ever join that, I think my handle will be capnew37 because he knew. He knew the whole time and it's disgusting. You know what? Tou37, because he knew. He knew the whole time, and it's disgusting. You know what? Touche, that's fair. He did know. I can't necessarily knew he hit it, but he knew. Some other basement keeping, I've got an interview
Starting point is 00:08:36 with LS Dunes out this week. LS Dunes is a post-hardcore punk rock supergroup. They've got members of Circus Survive, Seosin, Cohed, and Cambria, fucking My Chemical Romance. Really cool interview. They put out an album today. Grayscale also put out an album today. One of my favorite bands. I've got an interview with them dropping on Monday. They'll all be paired on the podcast feed next week. I know I said that last week, but then the Grayscale interview came up and it was just, it fit too well. And Monday, that's when they'll go on the podcast feed. So also the grayscale interview will hit the video
Starting point is 00:09:06 feed. Other than that, I think that's it for basement keeping it's Royal Rumble weekend. I'm headed up to Saugus in the morning. Me and Jared are having ourselves a little Royal Rumble party. He's throwing it at the at the rocket. The rocket pad. Is that what he calls it? Maybe better? Should be called launching pad. Yeah. So yeah, I'm excited for the Royal Rumble. I'm sure next week we'll also do a post Royal Rumble from the top row.
Starting point is 00:09:29 I just find that so adorable is not the word, but it's kind of adorable. Just two boys. It is kind of adorable. Used to work together, see each other all the time, and now you're going from Jersey to Boston. And you're going by train, is that correct? Yeah, me and Lady Fox are taking the train up tomorrow morning.
Starting point is 00:09:44 That's what makes it adorable. You guys are taking two couple taking the train together. We're sleeping over. You're sleeping in Jared's spare bedroom. Yeah. Oh, probably go for a nice little brunch in the morning too. And recapping all the stuff that happened. Now that's is the rumble included on Netflix. Can I watch the rumble? Peacock. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uh ross on netflix now i assume when the peacock deal ends they would want to move all the paper used in that looks just like seems like common sense but you're not there yet and then peacock is it i don't have peacock but just so i know is it then pay per view on peacock are just have regular peacock yeah, just regular peacock you get all the pay-per-views, which is like, you know, if you're a WWE fan who lived through the $60 a month era Yeah, you could put up with the five ten fifteen dollar a month error depending on what tier you have. Yeah looking back man We did some heavy lifting. Well, yeah Until you found the kid with the black box. He did some heavy lifting and I remember I would always like my mom said I couldn't get a pay-per-view
Starting point is 00:10:44 I would always like almost this is bad, but I would almost try to make her feel bad about it the next morning. So it was like a six-year-old, I would go on wwe.com and read the results and I would have two avenues to take. I could either have like, I missed out on such a great event, mom, you made me miss it. All my favorites won. And she would have such a great response.
Starting point is 00:11:02 She'd be like, so I'm glad all your favorite, all your favorites won. That's great. And then if I was going in the opposite direction, I was like, Mom, all my favorites lost. Like, I can't believe I wasn't watching. She'd be like, well, thank God you weren't like, thank God you missed that you wouldn't have been watching wanting to watch that. But yeah, it was one of those like, I feel like a lot of people grew up this way. If you're a wrestling fan, it was like, you could get like the big four pay per views, WrestleMania, Royal Rumble, SummerSlam Survivor Series and then like the no mercies and the back lashes and the Whatever the night of champions. They would all be a hard sell to your parents
Starting point is 00:11:32 Yeah, I could and I could see this as a parent now just like not even like just swatting you away Not even trying on this one. No Absolutely. Yeah, like a superhero like absolutely not even breaking a sweat Absolutely. Yeah, like a superhero, like absolutely not even breaking a sweat. A tier five hero. You were, let's see, what's who's like, honestly, it was Wanda talking to the Illuminati. It was like, well, I'm about to drop a nuke on her and she's like, what mouth and I'm like, now, if you wanted to go to said event, what would be the best way to go to said event? Then you don't have to pay for a peacock, pay per view, any of that. You can see it live in person.
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Starting point is 00:12:27 Is that the name of it? That was the name of it. I think it's still is. I think it still is. 60,000 people are gonna be there. I saw they just opened up new tickets as well. Go to game time to get those tickets. It's the number one ticketing website on the planet.
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Starting point is 00:13:48 Awesome deal. Love our friends at game time Perfect Indianapolis. I feel like if you're in the Midwest Indianapolis is a nice little midpoint. You just drive there and Everyone says it's like the best place to have a big event a Super Bowl final for you always hear that because I guess the way That it's all centralized. Yeah, I got it. Have you ever been to Indianapolis before? I have a couple times. I went back when McAfee was working for us. I would do the wrestling show with him sometimes. So I think twice I went out to Indy and I was in the Barstool Indy office, which was cool. It was like back then it almost felt like what the Chicago office. Yeah. It's like, oh my God, they got half a basketball court and a chef area. Like so I have been to Indy a couple they got a half a basketball court and a chef area like
Starting point is 00:14:25 so I have been to India a couple times. I actually liked Indy. I know people I kind of crap on it in terms of like, oh, there's nothing going on around there. But I thought it was fun. We went to the mall me and Vives and Evan Foxy and McAfee was fun. McAfee might be in the Rumble this year. I wouldn't be surprised if his name gets pulled and Indy goes nuts. I can see back if you like winning it somehow You know, I don't pass that guy. It's it's absolutely crazy Yeah, man, it's fucking like two and a half three hours from Chicago four and a half from Detroit Yeah, you have all this. Yeah, like, you know Cincinnati's not far Kentucky It's kind of a midpoint for all that stuff and it seems like it's pretty well set up
Starting point is 00:15:01 So maybe the Basin boys will go on game time and hit an event I don't know if I can swing the rumble. Actually, no, you already have your Jared on a day notice. Yeah. All right. Let's get into the bulk of the show, the Marvel news, the DC news, the other stuff news, we've got some star war stuff this week. Let's start off with Marvel because Marvel pissed everyone off this week
Starting point is 00:15:22 on both sides of the political spectrum. This is kind of the stuff I referred to to early where it's not the fun stuff. It's not fun stuff to talk about. But Anthony Mackie had this quote while promoting Captain America Brave New World in Rome, Italy. I want everyone to keep this in mind. He said this to an audience in Rome, Italy. He said Captain America represents a lot of different things. And I don't think the term America should be one of those representations.
Starting point is 00:15:43 It's about a man who keeps his word, who has honor, dignity, and integrity. So listen, if you really look at what he said and what you think he was trying to say, if you read the subtext, if you want to go down that route, I understand what he's saying. I understand that Captain America isn't like just a patriotic nationalist cure who only fights for America. The second Captain America isn't like just a patriotic nationalist cure who only fights for America. The second Captain America movie and third Captain America movie are about him fighting the United States government and talking about what they should be as opposed to what they are. And that is cap.
Starting point is 00:16:15 I get that. And Chris Evans has very similar quotes about cap. He agrees on all of this. When you're promoting a Captain America movie, you probably shouldn't say Captain America should not represent America. It's just giving ammunition to all of the people who are already rooting for this movie to fail, for one reason or another, if it's Marvel's decline, if it's how they feel politically, whatever. It just came off as such a dumb thing to say. And like, again, I sort of, I understand what he's saying. I get it. He put out a statement hours later being like, I'm a proud patriot, I love our country. And I was like, oh, Kevin Feige
Starting point is 00:16:49 must've fucking got the bat phone and been like, brother put out a statement, Captain America cannot be anti-American. But yeah, that was the whole thing. And then much less, on a much lesser scale, they pissed off the liberals as well, because the voice actor of the new Spider-Man in this new cartoon, Hudson Thames, said he was afraid the show was going to be annoying
Starting point is 00:17:08 and woke going in, and he's like, it's not, it's amazing. And people were also annoyed. They were like, what would be the issue if it was woke? Both of these cases, I feel the same way about. I don't think the outrage is worthy of what either person said. I think we all need to take a deep breath and calm down. I actually loved this quote from Anthony Mackie yesterday. There were a lot of comparisons between a red Hulk and Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:17:32 People are trying to say they made the red Hulk red because of Donald Trump because he's orange, which is the dumbest like leap. You're taking 10 steps. Red Hulk is a character from the comics. He's playing the character from the comics they've teased in the MC already. But Anthony Mackie said, I hope as a country we're tired of all the political jousting. Let's just go to the movies and chill the fuck out. We could have made this motherfucker yellow and it probably would have been a problem.
Starting point is 00:17:57 He is right when he says that. That was my favorite quote I read from Anthony Mackie because that's how I feel. Let's chill the fuck out and watch this fucking superhero movie. Stop making it political like this. Yeah, that's the, there was a time, Bob, when we would go to the movies or read comic books, and you wouldn't have to worry about all the real life stuff getting in the way.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Now, I do agree, though. And this is the thing. Even if he had said something that if you clipped it, and it didn't have that exact context, people could still get mad about something you say if they clip it the right way. I've learned that, you know, we probably pushed that. So that shit, if you want to just push your agenda against someone here at Barstool, right? You could just be like this fucking guy, fuck him, blah, blah, blah. But yeah, that's, I feel like they might have to like reintroduce because you know, you know, if I had a course with the old Avengers about what to say, what not to say.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Media training. Yeah. The media training went out the window and he was like, he doesn't represent America. And another thing, the Rome, Italy thing, he's literally just trying to sell tickets to an audience in Italy. So he's like trying to be like, yeah, it's not just America. He loves you guys, too. He loves Rome, Italy.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Like it's such a not a cheap pop type thing, but it's like, he's almost trying to get a cheap pop of like, yeah, internationally America isn't like we all love America. Like not everyone he's like that. Not every country in the world is like that. So I get it, but just a stupid thing to say while promoting a Captain America movie. Yeah. It's like, listen, I think Captain America, when he was originally made
Starting point is 00:19:22 Captain America, that dude was America to the core. That's the whole thing about Steve Rogers when you learn about him. But then he said he then fights the government for like half of his life. As soon as he's out of World War II, yeah. He's like, he completely, the character is supposed to be what America should be, not what America is. There's so many quotes from like the earliest Captain America comics, where he's like, America is nothing unless you make it what it should be.
Starting point is 00:19:48 This is Captain America to his core, but when you put it that sort of bluntly, you take like a broad strokes perspective with it by saying like he doesn't represent America, because like he does represent America, obviously, he represents like what a great American should be. But is he going to not save an alien from another planet because he's not American? No, of course not. Like he doesn't give a shit about that.
Starting point is 00:20:11 He just hates bullies. No, in fact, he actually kept a computer alive instead of saving half of all living creatures in the world. He literally did because they do not trade lives. It's on the books. America is just is just the front of his Jersey at this point. It's just the front of his Jersey. You're making good points. I can't tell if they're on my side or not.
Starting point is 00:20:32 This is breaking my brain. I don't know if I should agree or not. That's a good one. I mean, you had another good point to me that via text, like when this all broke, you texted me and you were like, this guy kept the Soviet secret for his Soviet friend killing an American hero for how many years it's just like it's just so exhausting that and then the spider-man I didn't see the spider the spider-man quote I don't think did nearly as much like it didn't it was more way more of a like twitter like tunnel vacuum thing like there's so
Starting point is 00:21:07 many people there's so many memes on twitter now people acting like this new spider-man's racist and like i don't mean to laugh because that's not funny some of the memes are a little bit funny but like they're acting like yeah this spider-man is just like he said he was afraid it would be woke again it's just like the captain america thing like you know what he meant he's not like he said he was afraid it would be woke again It's just like the Captain America thing like you know what he meant He's not like I don't think this fucking kid Hudson Thames is the most conservative Anti-liberal guy in the world. I think he was like yeah, I just wanted to be good show I didn't want it to be like bogged down with politics I think that's basically what he meant and the showrunner basically said as much there was a statement from the showrunner where he's like
Starting point is 00:21:40 Yeah, I love Hudson. I think he misspoke. I don't I didn't really think much about it. Yeah, I think the the way to like consume uh superhero content now is you go into whatever the show or the movie on your own without you know, you get your information about when it's coming out, get your trailers, watch it, make your own opinions, and then you go online for the funny memes when it's all said and done. Yeah, I think like riding with every quote said during the promotional tours is one way to drive yourself mad and you could take it any different way. Social media is a goddamn scourge.
Starting point is 00:22:14 It's been a scourge for a while. It's only getting worse. So I think I hope I used it right. I hope I used it right. I don't know. I don't know if you did, but it sounded right to me. It sounded good. Oh, let's see.
Starting point is 00:22:23 We're looking up live. Look it up. Scourge. A person, let's see. We're looking up live. Okay, look it up. Scourge, a person or thing that causes great trouble or suffering, yes. Yes, correct. Ding, ding, ding, A plus on this day. Every day's a school day. You just learned a new vocab word, everybody.
Starting point is 00:22:36 That's right. That actual show, Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man, the first two episodes dropped. This was the show that originally was going to be called Spider-Man Freshman Year. It was gonna be at the MCU, Tom Holland, Spider-Man, his freshman year. They said eventually they realized there's a lot of constraints on that. It's like you can't use most of the villains and he wasn't even in a Spider-Man suit at that point. So you'd have to have the whole show in the homemade suit. There was a lot of like things that were obstacles
Starting point is 00:23:00 in the way of that. So they pivoted, they went in a different direction and this now feels like It's his it for sure his own spider-man, but there's hints of the MCU spider-man in there So it feels like a multiverse where things just went a little awry. I kind of liked the first two episodes I thought it was pretty damn enjoyable liked it more than I thought I would Your thoughts I have not watched again. I was I was waiting for you. I didn't I didn't I didn't know if you watch or not So my thoughts overall the animation style takes a little bit of getting used to and I'm still not sure I like it it's an interesting mix of 2d and 3d Where I think everything looks pretty good when it's still images like the actual character designs and the way they went for an old
Starting point is 00:23:41 School comic aesthetic I think was great like. The character designer I follow on Twitter, he has some amazing Spider-Man art, but I think I would have preferred if it was just a 2D show and not like they're trying to make a 2D go into 3D. And sometimes it comes off as almost cheap rotoscopy stuff where it's like the cheap animation style, where sometimes it looks cool in music videos
Starting point is 00:24:00 where they'll trace over an actual video. Sometimes it comes off like that. But I said to you, oddly, this show comes off more like a what if than what if does at points because of the MCU things, because they show scenes that we've seen in the MCU with Tom Holland experiencing them, but they're just a little bit different. There's a different character in place of Tony Stark or something. So it feels like, oh, this is like a little divergence. It's very actually unique and creative, like the way Peter gets
Starting point is 00:24:31 bit in the beginning. I don't think this is like a big spoilers. The first two minutes of the show, he goes in for his first day of high school, a Dr. Strange portal appears out of the sky and everyone's like, what the fuck? A giant symbiote monster falls out of it almost looks like a venom if he was more of a bug. And Dr. Strange comes out. Dr. Strange is fighting a symbiote in front of Peter Parker on his first day of high school, and a spider comes out of the Dr. Strange portal and bites him.
Starting point is 00:24:56 And the second he gets bit, they skip forward months to when he's already Spider-Man. So you don't have to do the training. You don't have to do the crash course. You don't have to do the suit. The web slingers. It's just right into Spider-Man. Most importantly, we don't have to do the training you don't have to do the crash course You don't have to do the suit the web slingers. It's just right into spider-man most importantly We don't have to kill uncle Ben. You don't have to kill uncle Ben and that is also very nice
Starting point is 00:25:13 I love the theme song. That's a big part of a cartoon especially spider-man cartoon There's a high bar, but it's a cool like they do a little remix of the spider-man But it's a cool like they do a little remix of the Spider-Man, Spider-Man, and has fucking drums kicking in right away. Then it kicks into a rap. So they nail the theme song overall. It's not must watch through two episodes. I'm not as invested in it as I was X-Men 97 even through two episodes. But if you're like a true Spider-Man fan seeking out
Starting point is 00:25:40 Spider-Man content at all times, you read the new comics, you're playing the video games, I think it's worth watching. It's already been greenlit through three seasons. So they have a lot of faith in it. And the people that have seen the full season say it holds up that quality the entire time. Okay. So I, you told me I wanted to hear the full blown, like get all your thoughts. And again, you can be, I think you can be objective with your Spider-Man stuff. Yeah, and again, I'm not saying race to it. You're gonna love this.
Starting point is 00:26:08 It's amazing, but it is like, it's an easy half an hour, 25 minute watch or whatever. And if you've got kids, I would imagine kids would love this show. It's like very nice, not made just for kids, but it kind of, it leans youthful. So it's funny, I actually said to my kids yesterday, I said, oh, I said, I want to watch this new Spider-Man show.
Starting point is 00:26:29 And they go, oh yeah, that show, that thing is always on YouTube. Like I guess they've just been promoting it nonstop on the YouTube commercials. They don't get the access to the YouTube premium. That's only for daddy. Daddy gets that, apparently I can't, I have to get a family for them to get it.
Starting point is 00:26:44 It's like, nope, you guys have to live with that too bad they've ruined all my other algorithms i'm saving my account for myself so i'm gonna i was gonna ask like if i watch it on my own i don't feel like i'm kind of watching a kids show though right i feel like i can know that they definitely play with some adult themes like there's um lani lincoln who if you know the spider-man comics i think will eventually turn into tombstone is like p Peter's buddy in high school which I also don't know if they've ever done that like Tombstone has one of his high school buddies but there's this really good scene really well done for like a kid's show where he's just walking home from school and he's on the subway and like a kid kind of gives him a weird look and then a cop slows down
Starting point is 00:27:22 and gives him a look and they're kind of implying some racial things going on where it's like yeah maybe this kid's being looked at a little differently because of his race and it it's just a 30 second scene in the first episode but it was like weirdly like oh shit that's pretty fucking mature for a kids show so it does a good job of balancing like it knows kids are watching and adults are watching for sure I like that I like that that because again it's kind of like um I guess skeleton crew in the sense that I'd say it's flipped though where it's probably an adult show first that kids can watch or that was a kid show that I felt like adults could watch. Is that a fair way to put it? Yes I think that is pretty fair yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Um some funny news this just made me laugh. Benedict Cumberbatch seemingly has no idea when Dr. Strange will appear next to the MC We had this quote where he was like, hey, yeah, I'm not gonna appear in Avengers Doomsday But obviously I'll be a major factor in secret wars and we talked about it We were like, is he trying to throw us off the scent? Is he gonna be in dr. Strange 3 in between the movies? But no, he just had a quote this week where he's like actually I am gonna be in it Don't listen to a word. I say I don't know what I'm talking about that really made me laugh oh Avengers
Starting point is 00:28:27 doomsday that's just I love that that I wish I had seen that as like a fucking variety headline Benedict has no fucking clue when dr. strange is gonna appear next he's like call me when you need me man I'll be here Chris Evans also says he won't be in the movies is he's happily retired we all all know that's probably a little fib. At this point it's like just stop it I don't I don't want to know and I guess this kind of goes back to how I should consume your social media how I choose to consume my social media this stuff. I don't want to know if they're in it and I don't want to hear them lie if they are in it and they probably shouldn't be saying yes or no and I could definitely understand why there's probably like confusion on some
Starting point is 00:29:06 of their parts right bet cover batch was in the training back in the day Anthony Mackie didn't get that training but you know cover batch got the training because he was fucking steel trap we know Don Cheadle didn't get the training right no well Don Cheadle Mark Ruffalo they were the one and Cheadle was next to him I think think, and he was like, dude, what the hell? Cheetal definitely got the training. I was like, you must have skipped that.
Starting point is 00:29:30 To Ruffalo's credit, there was like six Hulks before him. So all those Hulks got the training, but not him. Yeah, yeah. It's a funny story. It's funny. It kind of brings him back down to our level, where it's like, yeah, sometimes we forget we have an interview, a podcast to do.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Sometimes Benedict Cumberbatch forgets he has a billion dollar movie to film. There's also a lot of wild quotes flying around about Daredevil born again. So by the way, I'm eight episodes in to update everyone on Daredevil. I will be able to binge it a lot more after this weekend, because now Lady Fox is back from her work trips, really loving it still. But they compare it to the original series a lot. They say it's going to be way more violent than the original series. after this weekend, because now Lady Fox is back from her work trips, really loving it still. But they compare it to the original series a lot. They say it's going to be way more violent than the original series.
Starting point is 00:30:09 I'm only eight episodes in, so I haven't even seen the tip of the iceberg, I'm sure. But I just watched Kingpin decapitate someone by just slamming a card door on his head over and over again. And then they delivered his head to his brother. I don't know how much more violent you can get. They compared it to The Penguin, which we both said is a crazy move. Like, kind of setting yourself up for failure because you got to have balls and you got to have a lot of faith to compare it to the Penguin.
Starting point is 00:30:36 And they also told us Michael Gandolfini, the son of James Gandolfini, will be playing Kingpin's protégé in the show, which I think we all assumed because how could you cast him as anything else when it's he's the son of the most famous mobster to ever grace the silver screen or is that what they call TV silver screen? That movie theater. So the are fucking screens at TV. HBO. You know what I'm saying. It's not even TV though. It's HBO. Right. So it's almost like its own screen. It's in between. Yeah, D'Onofrio also said static screen the static screen HBO Vincent D'Onofrio also teased that Kingpin will get much bigger by the end of the season. He's like, oh, yeah physically He's gonna be huge. I want him to get to that into the spider-verse. Yes a little head on a body. I
Starting point is 00:31:20 Wanted to be the same exact person. Yes, and and the Mets. I want him to redo the Mets thing as well if you could do that meme. So little update on me. I watched my full season one recap 23-ish minutes, I believe, and I watched the season. Season two recaps are very hard to come by. There was a couple three minute ones that weren't even really recaps. Then there was a 20-minute one where there was more of a review than a recap. However, so I am now through season two, I'm ahead of Robbie Fox. Yeah. There was some gnarly shit in season two. And I don't know if I just had the PG version in season one in the reviews. I do think there is, I saw a little bit of violence.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Season two had some really whack stuff. So if it's worse than that in terms of violence, we have ourselves like, I mean, Penguin had its moments, but I'd say, from what I saw season two, a daredevil is more extreme than the Penguin. And then if this is gonna be more extreme than both of those, Marvel is going two feet in after Deadpool kind of loosened things up. Yeah, I'm excited. this is going to be more extreme than both of those. Like Marvel is going two feet in after, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:25 Deadpool kind of loosened things up. Yeah, I'm excited. I'm really excited. March 4th is when it debuts. Also, before we continue, let's tell everyone about another one of our favorite sponsors, and it's a great week to tell them about that sponsor. It's Giraffe Kings. It ain't the itty little bitty bowl we're talking about.
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Starting point is 00:35:09 For additional terms and responsible gaming resources, see dkng.co slash audio. And speaking of the Super Bowl, Fantastic Four and Thunderbolts are both expected to have Super Bowl trailers. This made me laugh. Superman will not have a Super Bowl trailer. It will have a Puppy Bowl trailer. Kind of love it. Kind of love my guy James Gunn
Starting point is 00:35:29 zigging when everyone else is zagging, not looking to just spend that DC bag. Uh huh. I have to admit I did it. Did you do a double take when you saw that? The Puppy Bowl thing? Yeah. It's like, well, sort of, but I was like, I get it with James Gunn, like him specifically, him being the guy behind this movie, being such a dog lover, animal lover crypto being in the movie. I was sort of like, I did a double take, but I was like, nah, that makes sense. And the first thing that came to mind, this might be a crazy comparison, but I was like, this reminds me of the Pop Tart Bowl in terms of like the Pop Tart Bowl that you went to,
Starting point is 00:36:02 nobody could have expected that Pop Tart sponsors a bowl game game and it becomes the most viral sensation beloved on the internet. Everyone thinks it's so funny and loves it. Not that they're going to have that much going on at the puppy bowl, but just this will be a viral thing. It'll go viral before the Super Bowl, so it'll be one of the first things to really hit and have people talking. And the whole day, you'll have people talking about it. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:24 I think it's a good idea. I think it's very James Gunn. It's very crypto. Hopefully it's like a crypto focused trailer. I think that'd be cool. That's what I was thinking. It has to be crypto focused. And this just might be me, but I feel like when I see now if they had done a full-blown whole trailer, whole Superman reveal for the Super Bowl, that would one thing. I feel always underwhelmed with movie trailers in the Super Bowl. I know recently they've been doing that weird thing that I don't like where they'll give you a 30 second teaser and say watch the full trailer online. Deadpool did that right? Yeah and it's like but this is what the Super Bowl commercials were back in the day. It was like we looked forward to the commercials almost as much as the game
Starting point is 00:37:02 and now we're in that area where half the commercials at the Super Bowl have already been released and they're trying to get out viral two weeks prior I know we had blogs about that last year. I think me and jordy both had an issue with that But yeah, there's just they've taken the luster out of super bowl ads for a lot of them at least I feel like we get maybe one good one a year now Well, I said that the other day. He said he saw my draft where it was um. Oh yeah. Snake work asm, Sydney Sweeney and Mayo. Oh my like you said you did the. And even that commercial I thought was good. It was the when Harry met Sally commercial. They got Billy Crystal back and it's very funny but I would have liked it way more if I saw it for the first time on Super Bowl Sunday. That's right. So I want
Starting point is 00:37:40 to be draft. I want to be betting my draft Kings and watching my ads and I just get to sit down I the one thing I will say that helps is back in the day You felt like you were like handcuffed to the couch to have to go to the bathroom or get some food I couldn't do because I want to watch you're not showing people to party. Yes. I I'll be honest with you. I Don't want I don't want him to start beef with me here. I could probably leave during the halftime show. I gotta hear uh not like they're not like us but uh other than that, you're gonna start beef with Kendrick. I don't want Kendrick to come at me. I am not equipped for a wrap beef
Starting point is 00:38:14 against anyone let alone Kendrick Lamar. Yeah. So, uh I Rowan will have your back. I think I don't think Rowan. Rowan could write some ghost bars for you. He could. Shout out Rowan.com by the way. Rowan debuted on a new show this week. Everyone subscribe to Rowan.com on YouTube. It'll be fun. Some DC news. Speaking of Superman, we had this three second clip of Superman flying around Antarctica probably around the fortress of solitude that has divided the nation. It's a three second clip and people are talking about it. Like the movie's over, scrap it like you did back girl. James Gunn came out and basically had to tell people
Starting point is 00:38:52 there's like not really a lot of CG used because people were like they CGI to space. He's like, I don't know, it's just a weird lens we used. I thought it looked fun. And when you really micro analyze it based on everyone talking, look at his arm, look at his eyes, look at that. Maybe you could say it looks like, it's a three second clip guys. It's a three second
Starting point is 00:39:08 clip in a two hour movie. This doesn't mean anything to me. It's not a movie breaking. It's not movie making. I looked at it and I was like, ah, cool Superman. He's flying. Didn't mean anything to me more than that. Jimmy, welcome to the big leagues here. This ain't Star Lord and rocket racon and a whole bunch of misfits No one's ever heard of other than the diehards. You got the biggest franchise in comic history my guy Nebraska's own Kent Clark, I mean Clark Kent
Starting point is 00:39:39 That'll be one day we're gonna get listen Clem one of these days when we're retired and we're just living in our two family home together, sitting on the porch, we're going to get an offer from DC Comics and they're going to say, we want you to rewrite Superman's origin story and we're writing that crash, that baby crash landed in Nebraska. They'll still have to Ken Stino. They had to relocate. Pa Kent got a job in Nebraska or something like that. That'll be our little touch on it. And of course, Jose has to be part of it as well
Starting point is 00:40:05 It's like triple written by us and mostly written by Jose will hold I was saying Jose's writing Fucking he can probably illustrate it to know on that six son of a bitch I just like pop can't is like a die-hard cornhuskers fan, right? Yeah, I like that. Well Compton is Will Compton pose if you're not watching on YouTube, I just hit it for him. Oh, and listen, speaking of wholesome things, maybe us retiring in a two family house one day, I got something wholesome to ask you, Clem. I know we've talked about this in the past, but we officially signed the wedding contract October 2026. Clem, will you be one of my groomsmen? 2026. Clem, will you be one of my groomsmen? Oh, oh, I'm honored, Bob Fox. I am, I am completely honored. And of course, look at what a nice breaking news, breaking news on
Starting point is 00:40:53 Marstle. I know I wanted to do it on the podcast. I almost texted you when we locked everything in, but I was like, yeah, save the date. I think it's October. I should know October 2026, the wedding of Bob Fox and Lady Fox, and I would like you there with me. I am completely honored. What a journey for the boys here, for the basement. I need my fellow basement boy up there with me, you know? As your groomsman, the first thing I'm gonna tell you
Starting point is 00:41:19 is don't forget that date. Don't forget the date. I will forget the date, I got it down. Don't forget, they seem like the little thing she says to you in passing about everything. If you just need to start dumping them on me, just text it and I'll keep it all here. Then you just be like, you'll plan by the way. When is blah, blah, I got you. When is my wedding, Clint? That'd be a wild text. What a good day in the basement here. What a good day in the basement here. What a nice whole summer.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Good day in the basement. Yeah. And then a quick DC, right at the DC news after that. Ulrich Thompson has been cast as Sinestro in the Lanterns series. So we know right off the bat, we're going with the Green Lanterns Arch Nemesis Sinestro. I think that's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Camera testing has begun, so filming should start soon. And summer 2026, we will be breaking down Lanterns with apparently true detective vibes the entire show. Love the sound of that. Hand up never thought about the green lantern having like a like main villain didn't know Sinestro was a thing. Oh green lantern noob on our hands yeah. But I also feel like they have to hit with like guys like the green lantern because I mean Superman's obviously the biggest one then Batman But it's like that's when you start world building where it's like an absolute beast third option
Starting point is 00:42:33 It's like an NBA team. You have like the big third option in your big three or whatever. It may be I guess he'd even be lower than that Who else you have in the Justice League? Three or Wonder Woman Batman and Superman the Trinity Wonder Woman, Batman, and Superman, the Trinity. And then you've got, yeah, right below them I would say Lantern and Flash. Flash is who I'm thinking is a cut above, probably Green Lantern. I think a lot of people would probably put Martian Manhunter with them. I would maybe put Martian Manhunter a little bit below them with like Hawkgirl and Cyborg,
Starting point is 00:43:02 probably. Now, Sinestro looks like- Cyborg, I think, more looks like... Cyborg I think more of a Teen Titan to be honest in my mind but I know a lot of people have put him in the Justice League. He was in the Joss Whedon Justice League movie and Snack Snyder. Sinestro kind of looks like he's like middle manager, 48 year old, like I don't... this guy doesn't make me like shake in my butt. now Lex Luthor doesn't either but he's like Yeah, super duper he's Jeff Bezos
Starting point is 00:43:30 Yeah, essentially, right? Well Bezos is him I guess. Yeah Now Sinestro does have like this like have some firepower or something like that looks like here So he has a little bit more, you know, I'm kind of a new bottom as well I don't have like the complete Rolodex on Sinestro and all his corpse either but I know a little bit about him I know he's the arch nemesis I know that a lot of people thought they would save him for maybe a movie one day but I kind of like that we're going right into it like let's not save things let's fucking hit everything out of the park on the first swing with DC let's not not say, oh, season two will be where it gets crazy.
Starting point is 00:44:06 I've had enough shows. We've had enough shows together breaking down where it's like, oh, just wait. You know, this is all basically a prequel to season two. House of the Dragon was like that. And then like looking back, season one was better than season two. So you never know what to believe with that stuff. But yeah, I'm excited for all of it. I also do think even though the excitement with James gonen, the Penguin has definitely helped with that, the Batman
Starting point is 00:44:26 has helped with it, we'll see what Superman does. I do think they still do have the if you fuck up one of these series or hold back people are gonna be like fucking DC doing it again change the driver same shitty car so you gotta hit you know what it is when you get like a new TV electronic video game system, whatever it be Like rip all the little protective film off in there. Like let's just go for it. Yeah, like we were We're not returning good ripping that film off. That's why you want to do it throw the receipt out throw the box out You're not going to return it in the box. We're going full-blown gets in there I didn't know who he was 10 minutes ago. And now he's the most thing in the DC. Clem would boycott it if he wasn't in there.
Starting point is 00:45:08 And now some Star Wars news a little bit of Star Wars news the writer behind Ocean's 12 and the Bourne Ultimatum his name is George Nulfi is now attached to the new Star Wars movie about race at 15 years after the sequel trilogy possibly titled New Jedi Order. We're not gonna go through the whole thing over and over again, where every week we announce a new project that they announced and say, who knows if this is even gonna get announced?
Starting point is 00:45:33 You know, we can't get excited for it yet. We sound like a broken record, we know that. One thing I wanted to mention about this is that I kinda have this blind faith in this guy, George Nolfe. He wrote on Ocean's 12, The Bourne Ultimatum, two great movies. He was also a writer on The Adjustment Bureau with Matt Damon, a movie I really like. I think it's a great movie.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Why I have this faith in him, though, is because you know who else was a writer on The Bourne Ultimatum? I believe the first credited writer on The Bourne Ultimatum was Tony Gilroy, the genius behind Rogue One and Andor. And in my mind, there's no way Lucasfilm hired George Nolfe on this job, a very important movie, without at least hitting up Tony Gilroy and saying, hey, what are your thoughts on this? And I think if Tony Gilroy signed off on him, I trust him.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Trust in Tony Gilroy. He's got a sign in the basement after Andor. Wow, he gets a sign? He gets a sign. That's how much faith I've got in Tony Gilroy and Andor season two. the Who am I? Who am I to? I'm okay. It could be a tiny sign. It could be after Endor season two. Maybe we look back and we renegotiate and we make it either a bigger sign or we take the sign down and we put it in the garage. But for now, I think he deserves a sign. Boran Legacy. I haven't seen Boran Ultimatum. It's the only Boran stuff. I'm not a Boran. Yeah, you're not really your avenue, not your lane of action movies. Now it says Armageddon adaptation. How like did he take an Armageddon existing story and bring it to the big screen because that helps his case. I don't know I didn't recognize a ton of the other stuff on his IMDB like the
Starting point is 00:47:13 three main things were Ocean's 12 Bourne Ultimatum and the Adjustment Bureau. By the way Adjustment Bureau is very underrated. I'm talking about Tony Gilroy. Oh Gilroy you're talking about oh Oh, I'm not sure then so devil's advocate, which I did enjoy as a movie Yeah, it's screenplay adaptation for him again. I fucking love like 17 born things. I can't really speak on them I I missed the born train rogue one and or that's that's how you get sign worthy when you start getting Yeah, one and and or and all that Michael Clayton Michael Clayton's a great movie Andor and all that kind of stuff. Michael Clayton. Michael Clayton's a great movie. I don't know if I've seen Michael Clayton.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Oh, it's good, worth a watch. But then we're going back. The Great Wall, that's a bad one. I also, like, I gotta know what this Nofe guy, was he the one who put the tests, looks like Jessica Roberts? Oh, because that's important, yeah. you know, that's great. I love that I loved it people hated it though when it do people hate that I think it's I think that's like such a funny part of the movie
Starting point is 00:48:15 I thought it yeah, I thought it was like I don't know if the words witty but then it's like you're breaking the wall Which I don't matter I enjoyed it, but I remember when the reviews first came out about that It's like and this one twist. Oh my god. I hated it and the wall, which I enjoyed it, but I remember when the reviews first came out about that. It's like and this one twist. Oh my god. I hated it and I thought it was I thought it was funny. I I I
Starting point is 00:48:34 I guarantee by 2025 people like it now because a lot of the **** like the prequels trilogy. Everyone hated him now. It's like oh like everyone can find a way to like stuff now. So, I think we'll be okay there. I'm still just thinking about this Gilroy
Starting point is 00:48:48 sign. I don't know. I might, I'll go in the room and I'll print you a 3D printed sign. Listen, yeah, alright. Like last week, we talked about Denny Villeneuve. We'll put something on my desk for Tony Gilroy. He doesn't get a sign
Starting point is 00:49:01 yet. Let's let's renegotiate the sign post Andor season two or hell if Andor season two halfway through the season, maybe it knocks our socks off and we're like, hey, it's time to put that sign up. For now, let's put Tony Gilroy on my desk and he's on sign watch. You have to get Gilroy Gang tattooed on you. That's, I think, a fair compromise. Not Gilroy Gang, maybe just something.
Starting point is 00:49:21 I wouldn't be opposed to getting something and or or rogue one tattooed I'd be okay with that. I'd be open to it. Keep an open mind to it. Maybe like fuck the Empire with Martha Was that a name? Marva Marva right it was like the Star Wars equivalent of yeah change a letter and if it was Martha You would have Superman and Batman coming out of nowhere. Why did you say that name? But you did make a good transition there when you wrote up the Star Wars prequels because a new Star Wars comic called Legacy of Vader features a scene where Kylo Ren goes down to Tatooine and he's able to see this flashback
Starting point is 00:49:57 through the force of Darth Vader going back to Tatooine at some point and killing Wado. He got his revenge on his former slave owner. Another thing that can you believe it Clem, Star Wars fans are divided on. They don't know who to believe, they don't know what to like, what to not like. Some people are saying, I love this, Darth Vader is a petty son of a bitch, he's an emo bitch. He would go back to Tatooine and kill everyone that ever wronged him. He would kill someone that didn't give him the right amount of change back as a kid. Some people are saying, I don't like the idea that Darth Vader went back to Tatooine to kill this guy who he didn't even like, he didn't hate like Obi-Wan let's say, and he was that close to
Starting point is 00:50:33 the Lars homestead, he didn't see Luke blah blah blah. I fall on the side of, yeah I think Vader would be this petty, and I also think he'd be emo enough to not go back to his fucking childhood home or whatever. I don't know. I got a real kick out of it and there were some RIP Watto memes that really cracked me up. So I was trying to think. So I first saw that when I first saw the headline or the tweet or whatever it was, I was like, fuck yeah, fuck Watto. Like I hated that little dickhead. Then I thought about it and I was like, when I rewatched the prequels I think we rewatched them like during kovat and stuff with Jeff and Ken Jack on LCB. I was like did we Is why do as bad as I remember? Yeah, he's a slave owner. He's a real dick though, right? Yeah
Starting point is 00:51:16 Oh, yeah, there might have been someone else in the prequel in this in the Phantom Menace that I hated less after the rewatch the Phantom Menace that I hated less after the rewatch. Was it Boss Nass? Was it because, I have this, it might not be right about this, but I feel like I have a memory of you being like, yeah, fuck Jar Jar, I'm with this guy. Like. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Now, Darth Jar Jar was obviously playing the Yeah, of course, yeah. True Phantom Menace, he is the Phantom Menace in all this, that's why he's just playing his Sith Lord, which I completely understand. So, yeah, I is the Phantom Menace in all this. That's why he's just playing his synth lord, which I completely understand. So yeah, I mean, fuck Waddle. It's a fucking two panel page in a comic book. If you don't like this, pretend it doesn't exist.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Make it your head count in that this was a flashback. It's also a flashback that Kylo Ren thinks he saw through the Force. You could be like, yeah, I don't know. He didn't see that. I hope Darth Vader kills you. That's like an M&M thing right there. I Liked it. I I liked it. Okay. I like to trade the thought here one Vader is so scarred by all the shit in Tatooine
Starting point is 00:52:14 the baddest man in the planet was scared of the baddest man in the galaxy was scared to go back to that planet because of All the shit or I kind of like to of like, there is so much great content. I prefer it in movie form or TV form, but even if you want to do comic form, a Vader post-Syth to Rogue One, that entire timeframe where it's just, that's like, I want to know how Darth Vader became known as the baddest man in the galaxy
Starting point is 00:52:42 and he was so fucking feared. And we really don't get much of it. But that't get much but that the comics are where they have done that But like you said like that would be in very interesting for a TV series Even a fucking animated series if you wanted to take it in like animate it like the Clone Wars style I'd fucking be there for that to make it a little more violent make it a little more adult centric, but keep that style I think that'd be cool. Yeah, I think it'd be really cool And they said if you give you if it's other projects where he's kind of the jaw shark, as Kevin Smith said,
Starting point is 00:53:09 and he just pop up and just wreck havoc for like two minutes. I love that idea. But I just think there's so much there. I think Darth Vader is the coolest. Is Darth Vader the coolest character in all of Star Wars? I think the answer is yes. Coolest is tough because in my mind, I'm like nobody's cooler than Han Solo? I think the answer is yes. Coolest is tough because in my mind I'm like nobody's cooler than Han Solo. I mean Han Han, that's like the
Starting point is 00:53:29 traditional cool but yeah the best character. He's an overall 99. He's like the best villain like maybe of all time and we've talked about this Disney actually does a good job with him like for all the faults that Disney has had with Star Wars they haven't really whiffed with Darth Vader like his stuff in Rogue One was sick, his stuff in Obi-Wan was sick. His stuff in the end of the Clone Wars where they end that finale with him looking at Ahsoka's lightsaber. It's sick. All of the stuff in Ahsoka even with the flashbacks and them flashing back with Anakin and Vader, awesome stuff. Maybe they could nail it one day. Again, you don't want to make Vader too overexposed. You still do want to keep him almost like that shark
Starting point is 00:54:05 from Jaws, I think. Hashtag more Vader. That's our hashtag for the other day. Hashtag more Vader. And less Galactic Star Cruiser, because the Galactic Star Cruiser, about a year after it closed, I think, they're turning it into office buildings
Starting point is 00:54:19 for the Imagineering Department at Disney. It's sad, because I did think there was, maybe foolishly, I thought there was a chance that they could convert the star cruiser into like a one-day experience where you could go to Disney and sign up for the star cruiser and you do a little mission or whatever the Interactive part of the hotel is and then they bring you to Galaxy's Edge and you do something there and then you go back To the hotel I thought maybe they would be able to like go back to the drawing board and figure out a good price point For a one- day Star Wars fan, whatever. But no, it's just gonna have to be one of those things that that could have been I wrote in my blog, even the Disney
Starting point is 00:54:51 boys couldn't ask that of Dave's wallet. Like, we kind of like talked around it. You know, I remember the story. Yeah, we were sort of talking about it. But even like when we heard everything the star cruiser consisted of and heard the reviews from people that had done it, there was nothing that was like, we have to be there. Like that was what we thought from the concept art and the original videos. And then as soon as people started coming back and they were like, yeah, you're paying five grand to stay in a star Wars closet and all of the tech
Starting point is 00:55:22 doesn't work. And some of the views of the shows like people were spending five grand to see like the dinner show and Kylo Ren verse right they could not see like there wasn't views so it's just like a complete swing and a miss on every level I don't even know how many millions of dollars must have been lost on this a hundred million more probably more than a hundred I don't know and then so the saddest part is then that becomes office buildings Which it's like this great should have been magical place becomes office
Starting point is 00:55:50 But imagineering offices those are the fucking awesome people who dream up all the create Oh, that's what I was thinking are they gonna gut these like rooms or are they gonna still keep them looking like Star Wars Ian Spacey for? The Imagineering Department you gotta have some Star Wars Ian, even if you move it to just one part of the building, I feel like you got to have that because those brains to recoup some of the loss. What if they sold off some of the Star Wars props from the hotel at auction? Like, I think people would buy like a Star Wars fucking display screen, a Star Wars. Like I would certainly take a gander and see if I could afford any of it.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Like, I don't know. That's the Star Wars Hotel. Rest peace just like Watto it will not live to see another day I am I my YouTube premium I don't have a lot of stuff in the view history but I don't know I must have watched a Disney video at some point I'm getting a lot of old abandoned Disney parts of the whole I've seen some of those those are interesting they're really fun so this I've seen one from the old Nickelodeon studios to that's I know Right, that's interesting Yeah And I remember watching those shows guts and legends of the hidden temple and double there all of those shows as a kid
Starting point is 00:56:55 Watching replays of them and truly believe in that I was like I could have gone there and watched it like I was watching it ten years after the shows went off the air I'm being like mom. We got to go to Disney Nickelodeon studios. And she's like, yeah, I'm sure we'll get there one day, I guess. Like every time I saw that little slime fountain with the Nickelodeon song, it made me want to go to Florida instantly. I was like, I got to go to Florida at some point. It was like Pavel's dog.
Starting point is 00:57:18 So it's incredible how it worked. I guess it didn't work well enough, but it sounded like it worked too well where everyone who worked there was like, I don't want to be surrounded by people and that was a big people were watching you do your jobs and stuff like that Yeah Before we get into the final portion of this podcast just a few other things Let's remind everyone what we just told him about 15 minutes ago. That is DraftKings sportsbook I know we just told you about it, but it's a very important sponsor Especially around the Super Bowl like we said, it ain't the fucking itty bitty little bowl.
Starting point is 00:57:46 And while we're talking to the bowl, it's the big game. I thought it would be worthy of mentioning during this DraftKings ad that I once did try to change my name to Sue Space Purple. I told that story in the podcast before. Couldn't get the idea in time. It was when I was an intern for Barstool and they needed like a way to talk about the big game on Comedy Central. But obviously now with DraftKings, we're allowed to say Super Bowl because they're an official partner of the NFL, the official partner of the Super Bowl, Super Bowl Licks as we were saying. You think they're gonna do Super Bowl like, they should do Super Bowl Licks lollipops at the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:58:17 That would be like, especially in the suites when they do, you know, they'll do like the Travis Kelcey special and then the Jadeline Hurts, whatever. Like they gotta do something like lollipops. I mean, or if you're like one of these only fan models who's looking to break records. Oh, it's in the licks. And it's in New Orleans too. Like they're not bashful down there. They get wild.
Starting point is 00:58:37 And we were talking about Indy being a good spot for the rumble, New Orleans, they've done WrestleMania there like twice in the last 10 years. And apparently they're thinking about going right back and it'll be three times in 10 years to doing WrestleMania in New Orleans, they've done WrestleMania there like twice in the last 10 years. And apparently they're thinking about going right back and it'll be three times in 10 years. They're doing WrestleMania in New Orleans. That is the spot for an event like the Super Bowl for an event like WrestleMania. Everything on Bourbon Street, everything centralized. Very awesome stuff.
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Starting point is 00:59:58 and eligibility varies by jurisdiction void in Ontario new customers only, bonus beds expire 168 hours after issuance. For additional terms and responsible gaming resources, see dkng.co.au. And then the only other things I had that I wanted to mention before we got out of here, I talked about Timothy Chalamet hosting SNL and being the musical guest last week, being really excited for it. Our guy, Timmy, crushed it. He absolutely crushed it. I thought the skits were pretty good. They weren't like, I wasn't like blown away SNL is fucking back. But I think people are a little too harsh on SNL. I think every week there's at least one skit or a weekend update thing that really makes me laugh. What I really thought he crushed was the musical performances.
Starting point is 01:00:39 And it's interesting because he's not like the greatest singer of all time. He's not the greatest guitar player of all time. He's not doing the most impressive songs of all time. It's Bob Dylan songs, fairly easy to play, but he just has it. He got on that stage and had that fucking rock and roll vibe. It's like, God damn, Timmy has it. He went to the next game. He was mixing it up with the next this week. He was also, I watched one of his first starring movies this week, The King,
Starting point is 01:01:03 a Netflix movie that Joel Edgerton wrote and Joel Edgerton's in it as well, it's like based on Shakespeare plays. I thought maybe it would be like boring, maybe it would be slow, people were kind of prepping for that, it's a slow burn. It's fucking awesome. I don't want to be this guy that compares everything medieval to Game of Thrones, but it has a very House of the Dragon style storyline, a king is about to die, our guy Ben Mendo, fucking Krennic from Rogue One,
Starting point is 01:01:25 is about to die, he's got sons, he doesn't know who to give the throne to. One of his sons is Tommen from Game of Thrones. One of his sons is Timothy Chalamet. Tommen wants the throne, Chalamet's fucking off with the brothels and whatnot, he's more of that kind of king. And of course, in a series of events unfolds
Starting point is 01:01:41 where it has to go to Timothy Chalamet. And it's just fucking badass. He's at war with france and the leader of their army is robert patinson he's doing a french accent to timothy chalamet a french person who's doing a british accent to robert patinson a british person it is awesome highly recommend the king chalamet did you see any of the snl stuff i know you saw the nick stuff obviously no i did the nick stuff was awesome he got uh carl anthony towns jersey he had the Nick City dancers he took a picture which again don't want I don't which Jenner is he dating? Kylie. Kylie you don't want Kylie to see that.
Starting point is 01:02:11 He must have been upset yeah. Yeah but I my SNL the way I cover with SNL now because I do like you said everyone just shits on it non-stop if it reaches me through this skit was really good or this performance really good. It just never got to me So I didn't get anything but I miss it I would recommend to everyone from Timothy Chalamet's as an elf thing and it's a weird skit because it's a cartoon They literally animated a skit But he just did the voice of God in one of these skits and it was really funny talking about like Just God's just being like what if we had a fucking mountain that exploded and the lava comes out of it and what he's like call
Starting point is 01:02:48 it a volcano like there's this is a couple funny skits him being a instructional teacher that does like weird bungee jumping Pilates was funny shallow me and then the the last new story had something that I blogged this week I'm big Tarantino fan I know you are as well. We love Tarantino in the basement, but he's being a fucking weirdo about making his last movie He's dead set on making ten movies and being like the tenth one is the final one and blah blah blah He's like the next movie ain't gonna happen for a long time I'm gonna do a stage play next and if the stage play blows up and is a massive success
Starting point is 01:03:22 Maybe I'll turn that into a movie. Now I don't know if I'm presuming too much here, but a few years ago, he talked about scrapping a Reservoir Dogs remake. He was going to remake his own movie with an all-black cast. He scrapped it, said, I'm going to turn it into a stage play. Now he's saying he's making a stage play, and if it's going to be this amazing success, he might turn it into a movie. Did he scrap that movie, turn it into a stage play, and
Starting point is 01:03:46 then he's gonna make the stage play into a movie? I don't know. I also would be a little, Reservoir Dog is my favorite Tarantino movie. I'd be a little disappointed if he just remade that as his final movie. It'd be cool if it wasn't his final movie, and we could see how much he's grown as a filmmaker or something. But if he's got one more, I wanna see some original. Yeah, I think this is like your friend who's too much at his head and he
Starting point is 01:04:07 sits a limit on something and ruins everything else. I think he might've done that here. And it's something that he's great at, obviously. And it's something that it's made, it's made his whole career and his living. It's just, I almost Tarantino is now like being lumped into the, like I don't want to hear anything until like, don't want to hear Oh, he's making the movie This is who he's casting because I know how easily that can all fall I've practically happened with the movie critic remember we started getting stories like Brad Pitt cast in the movie critic
Starting point is 01:04:34 Paul Walter Hauser cast in the movie critic and then he just scrapped it because who knows maybe he didn't think it was like up To the standard of his final movie. I'm not saying put out schlock put out bullshit, but like you're Tarantino I have faith that you could put out a pretty fucking awesome movie That's not like in your mind the greatest movie ever made in the history of cinema And I feel like he's getting to that point where he's being such a perfectionist about it Like you said he's so much ruining like we could have had a rated-r Star Trek movie if he wasn't so focused on this 10 movie limit we We could have had the movie critic. We could have had whatever he's working on now. Instead, he's like, it's got to be 10. So my movies are still events. Bro, if it was 11, your movies would still be events. If it was 12,
Starting point is 01:05:14 your movies would still be events. Make a Baker's dozen for us. We would like 13 Tarantino movies. I think I would rather have, I don't know, would you rather have three eight out of ten Tarantino movies or would you rather have one ten out of ten Tarantino movie yeah that's a fair question just give me ten listen this is a fair way to pivot off the whole number thing because it's clearly effective like you said you could do the dozen the dirty dozen Tarantino movie yeah instead of of the 10 Tarantino movies Hey, do it do a play do a fucking cartoon do a show do whatever get that show I'd like to see that's you know, one of those things that would intrigue me What if Tarantino did an entire eight ten episode series which is three episode mini screw, right?
Starting point is 01:05:58 It would be fucking awesome. He takes a two-hour movie to whatever movie cuts it up into three or four parts Yeah boom done throw it in his mind like if he makes this tenth movie and then a year later gets the greatest It's a two hour movie, two and a half hour movie, cuts it up into three or four parts. Yeah. Boom, done. Throw it on HBO. In his mind, like if he makes this 10th movie and then a year later gets the greatest idea for a movie he's ever had, is he like, shit, I had 10, guess I gotta give it the fucking That's the problem with the limit. Yeah. Problem having nine.
Starting point is 01:06:18 Exactly. Like, can he like just wipe one off? And he's already like at 10 because he counts Kill Bill as one, but it's two movies. They were released separately. So it's like, bro, you're at 10, because he counts Kill Bill as one, but it's two movies, they were released separately. So it's like, bro, you're at 10. Just fucking throw them. My mom's basement, our numbers are all out the window. We got 400, whatever episodes.
Starting point is 01:06:31 We got way more than that if you look at the actual feed. We don't care, the numbers don't matter. He could make the Reservoir Dog movies and make it Reservoir Dogs 2. It's technically the same fucking movie. You know, it's- Do it, yeah. The sequel, Kill Bill, it's the same movie, different. God.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Volume 2, and it's the same thing. Yeah, release it in theaters with the original back-to-back Yeah, the beautiful creative mind is like this is the gift. Yeah, it's true Cuz yeah that weird mind made all of the movies that we love so much But also that weird mind when you get him outside of the movie making business you watch interviews with him You're like, yeah, he's a fucking weirdo. He's an absolute strange man That's it for my mom's basement this week though January 31st, we're done with January at 12th into 2025 Obviously check out the feed on Monday for my interview with grayscale and the podcast feed for the interviews with the bands paired up
Starting point is 01:07:19 And next week we'll have a post-royal rumble from the top rope with Jared Karabas. That'll be a lot of fun So that was my Mom's Basement. What was our hashtag again? More Vader? More Vader, more Vader. Hashtag more Vader if you've made it to the end. Shout out to DraftKings and Game Town for sponsoring the program.
Starting point is 01:07:35 We'll talk to you next week. Keep those lights on, baby.

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