My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 41 - JORGE "GAMEBRED" MASVIDAL/‘THE MANDALORIAN’ SEASON FINALE RECAP WITH CLEM!

Episode Date: December 30, 2019

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We're capping off the year with the FIGHTER OF THE YEAR, Jorge “Gamebred” Masivdal, discussing his upbringing, career in mixed martial arts, newfound superstardom, and future goals. Robbie is also joined by the BADDEST MOTHERFUCKER IN THE GAME, Clem, to break down the Season Finale of ‘The Mandalorian' as always!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. How are we feeling? How was your holiday? Feeling good. Feeling good. I mean, the holidays, Barstool holiday is a weird time where usually Dave leaves for the break and is like basically like lights a fire on his way out. And you're like, all right, now I have to make sure I'm working during this, i think me and you were always on top of our shit which isn't a worry but you're always just like scared that you're gonna be the one like smitty got sniped the other day he did with the ninja thing right they were fighting and he was like you're not covering there's like christmas eve too and stuff smith and you know clickbait smith's at his back and it's like i'm dry you know smitty's driving white knuckling the wherever the fuck.

And you're just like, oh, man, I'm just happy. It was the perfect combination, though, of like Dave going at Smitty on Christmas Eve after the text and all this and their rivalry. Like, what a fucking funny little inner Barstool story. That was like that little thing. I actually got a text from Dave Portnoy over break. And that's always like, you know, when you get a text from Dave, your heart stops and I'll pull it up right here. My heart stopped you just saying that about yourself. And I checked my phone and I had unread texts. And every single time, like, just not Dave, just not Dave.

And Clem, I swear to God, it was a text that woke me up from a nap so it was even worse and the text read why would the Jedi fight the Mandalorians it was just one of those like oh thank God thank God I'm not fired he just wants to know a little bit more about the Mandalorian after that season finale and that's what we're here to talk about. We're here to talk about the fucking Mandalorian, Chapter 8. It's been a wild ride the whole time. I think it exceeded both of our expectations, other than Chapter 5, of course, that piece of shit Bounty Hunter episode of Bobby Cornwallis Jr.

But this finale blew me away and kind of encapsulated everything that I love about the Mandalorian. It tied everything together. It did a really good job of feeling like it was like an epic episode. It felt like the finale. It felt bigger than the rest. What did you think? Yeah, it felt bigger than the rest. It felt like it could have ended. Like if they didn't get picked up for a season two, I'd be like, all right, I'm happy with the way everything went from there um but at the same time um and i i actually think we're gonna probably have differing things that we liked most about this episode i think you're gonna like a lot of the the guts in the middle in the end i actually like the beginning when the the troopers are talking

to each other what kind of troopers are those again scout troopers scout troopers that's my favorite kind of stormtrooper by the way i love that you have a favorite kind of stormtrooper i mean i mentioned that in the past but like i just think they're so cool looking man they are after that you know what we're gonna get into spoilers right away hold on i'll remind everybody please subscribe to the podcast if you haven't already um please give us a rating and a review and if you're here for the jorge masvidal interview you could go to the you could go to the description below, and you can click the timestamp there to skip right to that. You don't have to listen to us nerds talk about Star Wars, The Mandalorian. I know you want that barbaric human cockfighting content.

But we're going to talk Mandalorian right now. So if you don't want this spoiled, skip forward to that timestamp. Here we go. We get the little recap of last episode where they picked him up from Queel. And they just start fucking laying into this bag just because he's making noise. All right. So when I said I liked the Scout Trooper part, I did not mean to make you get in trouble. Now I realize the words that came out of my mouth sound very fucked up. Like, you know, without giving away spoilers, I wanted a certain character.

It makes it seem like I wanted a certain character to die and stay dead in the rise of skywalker which was not the case i wanted all the other shit to have happen stay happen but not that one character we'll just leave it at that that was not cool man that's what are you doing we do protect baby yo it's been a fucking hashtag since for weeks now what is john favreau has to go in he knows that hashtag's out there he has to edit that scene out that scene still plays without fucking baby yo being fucking just rabbit punch nonsense it was crazy one of the scout troopers was actually jason sudeikis from snl and like where the millers and all those movies he's the one that was like actually punching it the most so if you recognize that voice you know it was another comedian that john favreau hooked up with a role which has

been a common theme throughout the entire first season and i think it's been amazing this is kind of what we've been talking about forever when we say we want like a buddy cop star wars movie that's what this opening scene felt like and it was so taika waititi this was a taika waititi directed episode and you could sense that same kind of humor coming through and i said this to jeff and ken jack when we did our uh season finale recap do you think when they were writing this this scene where they're like punching baby yo do you think john favreau dave filoni taika waititi all know how much it would enrage the internet do you think they knew like baby yo was gonna be this beloved i mean you see that cute little motherfucker there now the thing is like when you write it

is baby yo is probably just in their heads i feel like he's even cuter than you can like imagine in your brain so when it actually happens that like i feel like they didn't know they were gonna piss off the internet that much and then when they're then they probably saw the baby yoda like mocked up they're like uh-oh we're you know chapter six since we're gonna talk fancy is gonna be when we're in trouble chapter eight chapter this chapter yeah did you also feel like so first of all i couldn't figure out who the who the voices were it was one was jason sudeikis do you know the other one was it was just a random actor i was like this is the and i i couldn't play sudeikis but i'm like whoever's that voice

is i'm like that's familiar and he is the perfect guy for this role whoever that comedian is again that is a sadicus role through thick and thin and i also tell me if you're thinking this it was almost like the star wars version of badger and skinny pete yes right completely yeah they're just going back and forth you two fucking idiots how you guys even in charge of something this important you guys are gonna fuck everything up when they start shooting at the can they're trying to shoot at the can and they are just way off and they kind of look at each other and they're like, I don't know. We're not – we're scout troopers. We're scout troopers. That's what we do.

And that's the – this is the kind of stuff that I think Star Wars should really steer into, not every single episode or every single movie or show. But like the stormtroopers are like the – they're like the fucking flunkies of the crew. Yeah, they're the butt of the joke yeah and let's embrace that instead of you know because i know people probably still get up in arms when people run through a stormtrooper you know barrage and they don't hit anybody that they're supposed to let's have some fun with it these guys are at the same time we'll get to it later in the episode they did a pretty good job of making like some intimidating stormtroopers when they come in numbers when they surround people like you know they can play it both ways and i would love to see more of this style humor in the mandalorian going forward

like you said not every episode don't overdo it but if we get a few times a season like cutaways to stormtroopers just bantering and bickering or even two rebel officers or two mandalorians or two bounty hunters i i love that humor it just works in star wars it feels like classic star wars yeah i almost want like the rebel guys to just be like uptight nerdy like yes whitey kind of guys heads yeah the eggs exactly yeah i guess and then you'd have like the servers like look at those fucking eggheads over there then like the the mando you know that's my line like little shit like that that that those were probably the highlights for me in this series. So, yeah, it worked. So they also mentioned, which I thought was like a cool wrinkle and also funny, that Moff Gideon was trying to make a speech and he kept getting interrupted. So he just started shooting his own guys.

They were like, he's executing his own men. He's getting interrupted. And IG-11 comes in, saves the day. He gets Baby-O and finally gets like a front satchel, a front pack for this little baby. He put it on, started speeding away. We get the title sequence, and then they cut to the cantina. We don't see him come in right away. Or I guess the Werner Herzog bar, not the cantina.

Mando, Cara Dune, and Greef Karga, Carl Weathers, are all in there. Moff Gideon reveals some pretty crazy backstory on all three. He reveals that the Mandalorian's name is Din Djarin. He spells Djarin with a D, a silent D. So I've been thinking maybe some Jango t-shirts, maybe some Jarin. Oh, okay. Jango, man. I don't know.

Jarin Unchained. Yeah, let's, I don't know. If you're listening to this and you want one of those shirts, let's talk about it. They set up an E-Web, which is the massive turret that we've seen the Empire use a ton. Empire Strikes Back, it's in all the video games. I think it was basically something very similar was used in the first episode when he goes to steal Baby-O and he takes over the turret. And as they're doing this, he's saying, like, listen, we're going to light you up. He reveals Mandalorian's name. He reveals that Greef Karga was a disgraced magistrate, whatever that means. And I assume that's like a crazy Star Wars judge term. And the coolest of all of the backstory that he reveals is that Cara Dune, her full name is Cara Cynthia Dune, is from Alderaan.

That explains her entire character. That explains why she wanted to drop everything to fight the Empire at all costs. That's why she's so fucking hateful towards them. My note is that is Gus Fring. Gus Fring is the one who knows every little thing about you, what makes you tick.

He's been waiting for revenge on your ass. And to quote a guy who did a podcast about a couple of days ago that came out on friday make sure you subscribe so you can get it that was fucking hans gruber going about joseph takagi and father of five you know he's fucking picking them off he's he's kind of needling them as he's saying all this shit too trying to get them upset and a little frazzled as you know he has all the shit around them um i had no idea what an e-web was uh i obviously know the gun from the all the different shit i didn't when he said they have an e-web i'm like oh we're about to get some cool ass fucking web shot out that like electrocutes them and then it was just like a big ass laser it was check off c-web too i was like that thing's getting fired at some point

probably not by the guys who were installing it um and i also like you said i love that fucking we had the uh the hangover uh knapsack it was that it was like baby carlos that's baby carlos and uh what's his name uh what's alan alan in the hangover that was awesome i love that so they're trapped in the bar and they find uh they they need to find their way into the sewers. They find a vent, again, like Die Hard, basically, and they need to get through this vent. But it's made of, somehow, the strongest material in the entire galaxy. They try shooting it with Cara Dune's big blaster. It's not going down.

They try shooting it with other things. It's not going down. So they're like, all right, fuck, we're going to have to jump out of here. Or not yet. So we actually get the Mandalorian's backstory at this point. We get the flashback on the Separatist invasion, and he is saved

by a Mandalorian. Duh, I feel like it was the most obvious thing. Nobody thought maybe he was saved by a clan of Mandalorians, but he was. And this clan of Mandalorians in particular was Death Watch. Death Watch are a clan of Mandalorians in particular, was Death Watch. Death Watch are a clan of Mandalorians heavily involved in the Clone Wars,

and they're basically the terrorist clan of Mandalorians. They're the extremist, insane ones that wanted to bring Mandalore from pacifism back to extremists and really a war-centered planet and everything like that.

So they would manufacture Crisis and come in and save the day, kind of like Mysterio in Spider-Man Far From Home. Another cool wrinkle, I thought, being the backstory that was teased for the Mandalorian in the Bill Burr episode, when they were like, you know, oh, you enjoyed killing, didn't you? Like, we remember what you did back there. It kind of reveals that maybe he was raised by fucking savages and he's just coming into this new, I'm not killing him. I'm saving a foundling just like I was saved way.

Yeah, I was. So my whole thing during it was like, obviously, all right, this is how he gets saved and all this stuff. And just hearing the thought of his parents basically dying is never – that was not pleasant. I also – at first with the shadowy figure, I was like, wait. Is this going to be the Bubba Reveal, Bubba Reveal, Bubba Fett and all that shit? Which is like I don't think that really matches up with ages and all that stuff. But that's kind of where my head was going because my brain has kind of been poisoned by the internet to think that's going to happen, which – know spoiler it did not um the one thing i wonder what i have from this scene is do you realize none of these awesome mandalorians that are just destroying and putting to waste all these fucking droids none of them are using their flamethrower

those throwers are so fucking stupid none of them literally none of them they were using the grappling hooks they were using the blasters they were using the wrist rockets they were using the blasters. They were using the wrist rockets. They were using their jetpacks. None of them using fire. We get here. If you've seen the side-by-side image, if you haven't, I'll throw it up on Twitter because this is Monday. It's fair enough for spoilers. This is a perfect parallel to the Mandalorian saving Baby Yoda in Episode 1. We get some shots that are pretty much shot for shot the same. As George Lucas would say say it's like poetry it

rhymes uh and they hear now the child over the intercom we hear ig88 we hear baby yoda laughing he's having a ball on a speeder bike with ig or not ig88 ig11 uh and by the way taiko atiti said that people are going to confuse him for IG-88. Never happened. Fucking never happened. Unbelievable. I just confused him for IG-88, though. He confirms that our guy Kuiil is dead. He's like, yep, he's been terminated. He's on his way back, though, and we get this awesome sequence where he goes through the streets of Navarro killing stormtroopers at like 100 miles an hour.

His head is spinning around, his arms are spinning around, and he bum-rushes the stormtroopers and spins and uses the speeder bike like it's a bowling ball against a ton of them. It causes a huge explosion. This is where the biggest action sequence of the entire episode takes place. A bunch of the death troopers fuck Mando up for a bit. He has to get Greef karga's help which i thought was cool we we get to see like oh the death troopers are better than regular ass storm

troopers uh the mandalorian uses the e-web against them and then moff gideon blows uh the mandalorian up pretty much by shooting the power generator of the e-web good move by him awesome sequence what do you got uh mando first of all mando was right he knew that droid was able to kill again i mean and to be fair the droid did what he was supposed to do he's a nurse droid but mando's like yo you're a droid you're a killer you know no matter what even if you don't it's in your programming but in a weird way it was this was a big redemption for droids in general totally which i think you know you look at the good droids and you're always like all right the good droids but the bad droids have always like there's not been

a bunch but i i'm kind of a i'm kind of a droid guy now and i hope mando i hope this changes him to his soul we'll go into more what happened i thought mando was gonna get killed by fire which again would have been super ironic and the child this is our latest kills caption you want to know what he was doing today bob this is a new one the child gurgles oh wow a gurgle is just the perfect word for that little cute ass baby you know what i thought was really cool about the whole droid redemption thing you talked about is going back to solo a movie where they tried to do a big droid power story there with L3. I actually didn't hate L3 as much as everyone else did.

I know people said Jar Jar, Rose Tico, L3. They were comparing all of these characters. I think Phoebe Waller-Bridge is pretty funny, and although I didn't love the whole droid activism thing and the Lando love story, she's got some funny lines in that movie. This shows how well you can do that story

because I fell in love with IG-11 by the end of this episode. Yeah. When he's, you know, so we could get right into like the emotional part, Cara Dune goes out, she grabs the Mandalorian who's super fucked up,

like pretty much on the verge of death, we're led to believe. She drags him into the bar and she's like, I got to take your helmet off, you know, help you out. She puts her hand behind his helmet and it's covered in blood. And he's like, listen, I will hold them off until you guys can get into the sewer. Go try to find the covert. Give me a warrior's death. I want a warrior's death. Don't take the helmet off they're devastated but he's like you got to take care of the kid get out of here moff gideon sends in an incinerator stormtrooper with the flame flame uh flamethrower he's got the the red stripes we've seen him in video games

we've seen him i used to have like i think i still have probably an action figure of one cool to see in live action and another case of them taking one thing, just like the Super Battle Droid and the AT-ST, and making it seem super intimidating. Yes, and that's kind of been the theme of this whole season. Yeah, it's like small scale, but even like I was thinking the Navarro set, like it's not a huge set. You could tell it's like they have like two alleyways and then like a few buildings. Yes, yep, and I dug it. It's like they have like two alleyways and then like a few buildings. Yes. Yep. And I dug it. I also felt I'm like, Mando, you're dying.

And there's like a little fucking green doogie Hauser fucking human fucking hospital. Basically, they're a magical hospital. Baby Yoda, that should be able to heal you. But at that point, I think like he was weak because wasn't he fighting them off at some point? So he was kind of, like, weakened by that. But I was like, Baby Yo, like, this would be the time you use your powers for the guy who has basically devoted his entire life to keeping you alive. But again. Well, great news, though, because as soon as that incinerator stormtrooper comes in, Baby Yo does use his powers and he does the magic hand thing.

He throws up both of those hands. He stops the flame from coming in. He obliterates the flame trooper, like sends that guy, sends him back 40 feet. I just went back and rewatched it and like making my notes for this episode. And I was like, Jesus Christ, everyone is blown away by this. And it allows Baby-O, Cara Dune, and Grief Karga to escape into the sewers because they also – they get the sewer grade off at that point. IG-11 then says, listen, I'm staying here with you. I'll help you out.

Let me take your helmet off. Mando says, no way. No living thing has seen me without my helmet on since I pledged to the creed because we also found out he's not a true Mandalorian by blood. He wasn't – he was a foundling that came into the Mandalorian, which we assumed – We said that could be a possibility going in because Boba Fett wasn't. Jango Fett wasn't. Some people just wear Mandalorian armor. Some people swear to the creed. It's different.

And IG-11 says, I'm not a living thing, so I'm going to take your fucking helmet off. He does. We see Pedro Pascal for the first time in this series, and he him with some of that tony stark spray from uh from infinity war when he gets stabbed by thanos he calls it bach to spray a little shout out to the bach to tank in empire strikes back oh yeah luke is you know in that diaper uh really like cool emotional scene and shows character development for the mandalorian him allowing that droid to do that to him even though you though he assumed all droids were killers and droids killed his parents and a droid went and saved his life. Yeah, kind of also harken back to some other things where it's like he talked about how he does take the mask off.

But he's no one else ever seen him with the mask on. So you're not like, oh my god, there's no way he would ever do this even though he's dying basically and there is that perfect loophole where it's technically not a living thing now i'm gonna say this and i'm not proud to say this but it's true because i you know i like i like i like my guy i like my guy oberon looks like kind of a pussy it kind of hurts like if i could have lived with mando just being a voice for at least another season because now when i hear that voice i'm like yeah but you kind of look like he almost and it's weird he looked almost like john snow to me he looked like a little weaselly like really john snow yeah he he didn't look too hot i think we saw him at a bad time you know that's true fair point ig 11 hit him with a pretty funny joke too when he was like i gotta repair your central processing

system and he was like you mean my brain and he's like that was a joke it was meant to put you at ease oh we got a little we got a little bella fox uh appearance on the podcast for the first time bella shut up so they go down into the sewers it's like bella's your sister uh ig11 and the mandalorian go into the sewers. They meet up with everyone else. They're like, Jesus Christ, it's a fucking maze down here because he had never gone into a weird entrance where the covert was. They find the covert, and a ton of the Mandalorians are dead. There's just like a stack of armor.

It was actually a cool, almost comic book-y visual with all the crushed helmets stacked up on one another. And the armor comes out. She says some of them survived, got off-world. But once we revealed ourselves, we pretty much knew what would happen. We brought this upon ourselves. They show Baby-O to the armor, and she recognizes him. Well, she doesn't recognize him, but they describe his power and she's like oh i know that that's the way of sorcerers called the jedi that our people once fought with now back in in star wars canon in the star wars lore mandalorians and jedis have pretty much fought

forever going back like thousands of years before uh even the clone wars the mandalorians armor and all of that all of their weaponry, all of their ways in their violent ways were a response to them not knowing what the Jedi were, basically. They terrified them. The Force terrified the Mandalorians, and they were like, we gotta fight this because this is crazy.

She reveals this, and the Mandalorian is like, alright, well, is this an enemy then? She's like, not an enemy, but it's kind were enemies. You have to basically bring this baby to its own kind now. You have to reunite it with its own kind because it's not fit to train in the Mandalorian ways. It's too young. They do declare Baby-O a foundling though.

Pretty cool. Now that he's like a part of, they call him a clan of two. They give the Mandalorian a Mudhorn signet because she's like, you've earned this now because you're together. So you did stop the Mudhorn together. And she finally gives our guy a jetpack. They call it the Rising Phoenix Program. She's like, have you ever trained in the Rising Phoenix Program? And he's like, yes, when I was a child. So she gives him the jet pack and they go on

their merry way awesome scene it was this is the most we've we've ever learned about baby yoda so and the most we've ever like it seems there's a real mission now it's like reunite baby yoda with more yodas and we're gonna get a heartbreaking scene at some point in this series where he does do that and he has to say goodbye i know that i just from the way this went she's like you are his acting father now i was like jesus christ they're gonna fucking big daddy us oh no not the big daddy line oh god oh shit you know it too he's gonna go off to sorgon with his fucking chick that wanted to fog that helmet up. And we're going to get the Big Daddy ending.

Oh, God. We're going to get the Big Daddy ending. God damn it. God damn it. But he needs it. He needs to have this happen. What I didn't understand is, like, we talked about this in the past about how no one knows who Yoda is and all that kind of stuff. But when everyone's like, Jedi?

What's a Jedi? I'm like, come on! You guys have to know what Jedi are. Again, we don't know about space TVs and everyone has TVs, the internet, all this stuff in these places. Yeah, post-Return of the Jedi seems like people would probably, like, post the fall of the Empire. Wouldn't people say

led by Luke Skywalker, like, Jedi Master? That was exactly my point. I was going to say, like, Luke Skywalker's name fucking moves fucking waves now, you know? You hear the name Luke Skywalker, and at some point, the J word comes up. Even in The Force Awakens, she's like, Luke Skywalker, like, I thought he was a myth.

He's on the fucking crawl! Luke Skywalker! Great Jedi Knight! Blah, blah, blah. That was my one, and again... But also, going back to that, like, think about where we are here. By the time A New Hope came around, Ben Kenobi was really, like, Ben Kenobi and Yoda were the only Jedi around. Yoda was in hiding. Ben Kenobi was also in hiding.

And Han Solo was like, I don't believe in that. It's hokey religion and ancient whatever. If that's A New Hope and then the only Jedi to come after since was Luke and maybe he trained Leia, maybe he started a new order, but probably on the DL, maybe they wouldn't know Jedi. Maybe they would think they're a myth still because think about Order 66. That happened how many years prior to this? 30-something years prior? More? That's fair.

I guess I would think Kara at some point would come across the word Jedi at some point and then you think Mando's parents at some point were like yo if some dude starts fucking moving shit with his mind run that's a Jedi he has a light he has a fucking flashlight in his pocket that'll chop your head off or at least your arm or something and this is the thing I don't want people to take this as like legit nitpicking this is just having

fun nitpicking I think the Skywalker saga has taken all those nitpicks and there's so much anger behind them we're just having fun now we like the mandalorian the fucking skywalker saga is what it is we've done the verizon skywalker review make sure to go back if you're listening yet we're having now we're just having fun we're just enjoying the star wars universe for what it is absolutely and the way that they're expanding it which is what we've wanted all along like expand the universe keep expanding it that it. We got so much more

of that in this episode, and they expanded it in such a cool, connecting way, especially in the end, which we'll get to. So stormtroopers come in. The armorer absolutely fucks them up. She basically fucks them up with wrenches and bats and

physical weapons. Real weapons don't make sense to me she real weapons don't make sense to me you gotta be yeah they're weird in the star wars universe because she crushes a stormtrooper's helmet open and it looks like it like fractures like a jaw wood in a mortal combat cut scene it was awesome but like you said it's just i don't know it's too real to me damn it uh and and they the rest of the heroes have to float downstream, down like a lava-infested stream,

basically a lava stream, and they're led by what I wrote down as a cursed R2-D2 droid. I wrote grown-ass R2-D2. It has legs, it has arms. It disturbed me. I didn't like seeing it. I wanted it to fall into the lava, and I didn't want to see it ever again.

Just keep the R2 units to, like, very tiny. Even, like, Chopper from Rebels. I don't know if you've seen Chopper from Rebels. He's got, like, a bunch of contraptions. He's like a Swiss Army knife-looking R2-D2. I'm cool with Chopper. That's where I draw the line, though. Enough with this fucking row row row your

boat merrily down the stream ig11 says listen there's no way that i'm gonna survive and baby yo is gonna survive jeff delo called it a very dr manhattan moment from him where in the finale he's like i'm telling you there's no way it happens the mandalorian has a moment there where he tries to convince ig11 listen do not sacrifice yourself because he was planning on it. He's going to walk through the lava. There's a bunch of stormtroopers waiting at the end of the cave. And this was maybe my favorite moment of the entire episode because seeing the contrast from episode one where he's trying to selfishly convince IG-11 not to detonate because he wants to survive himself to where at the end he's sad and

IG-11 senses the sadness in his voice and he's like no I'm not sad he's like I'm a nurse droid I've analyzed your voice you are sad and he goes out the many people are calling him the Terminator 2 way walks through lava blows himself up saves the day that was my no to

the Terminator 2 ending which again have you seen the terminator 2 yet i have not well congratulations you now know the ending now we'll go backwards from there um i like uh and again i didn't understand i didn't think of this at the time but they were clearly setting up where they're like you know what happens if you touch the lava and it's like and i was waiting for him to be like yeah i've been playing hot lava since i was fucking two years old man which again never will blow my mind enough is how everyone my daughter has been playing hot lava i've never said the word lava to her she just knows hot lava is a thing you don't touch and it's always the floor in your house you know it's crazy it's crazy the most fun game the pillows it's like it's like a toddler parkour yes toddler parkour

um and then also the whole like they were saying the sulfur smell and that kind of added up that's what it was it was the lava thing which speaking of sulfur smell how bad were those assholes that used to bring stink bombs to school oh dude the worst all right we this we this is when we do the cross podcast this is a podfather's term and it's being brought to the basement. If you ever threw a fucking stink bomb in high school, you're rebuked. You are rebuked. You owe us.

Or middle school. Middle school, too. That's not okay. Oh, yeah. No, school. If you ever threw a stink bomb in the world, you are officially rebuked. The only way you can be unrebuked is by having a friend or family member or enemy whatever we don't care subscribe to the podcast because and apologize to me and bob for doing that because

we might have been in that room by some because those things were the fucking pits i hated the worst and the smell lingers so much share your uh stink bomb stories in the in the reviews this week if you stink bombed if you've gotten stink bombed, people that are stink bombers, rebuked. The worst. Yeah, because then, you know, people start looking around like, oh, who farted?

And then as a big guy, it's like, listen, I'm not a farter. And then it's like, but now I'm sweating because some asshole threw a stink bomb just to be a fucking joker. That's how I feel

when I walk out of a Hot Topic and I set the metal detector off with my belt buckle and I turn around, I'm a guy with tattoos, I'm like a teenager looking fuck in the mall like i'm like i swear i didn't steal anything like i just get guilty i start sweating get off of me um i also thought the the phoenix thing at first what did they call the jetpack it was like phoenix phoenix program i was like rising phoenix again thought it was a fire thing at first and then i was like oh wait you got a jetpack and i

was happy for him to get the jetpack. That was a cool moment, but other than that, whatever. Awesome jetpack too. It looks like the Beskar armor that he has, which I have a prediction for season two. I hope this set of Beskar armor is like the Iron Man Mark II suit, how it looked like basically the Iron Man armor that we all know and love now, but it was just all silver. It wasn't painted yet. I want in season two, his armor to get painted to celebrate the clan of two and him to have like lime green and like Brown for baby. Oh,

yes. Oh yeah. We need some sort of baby. Yo brand. I mean, baby. Yo is going to be the hottest thing in the marketing streets or the, the,

the toy store streets or whatever you want to call it. The merchandising streets. they'd be like a WWF tag team you know like you got a color coordinate at some point if you're a clan of two let's do this have green armor for the Mandalorian and then but you know distinguish it from Boba Fett's you can't do

Boba Fett green you got to do like a Kelly green base and then where Boba Fett has the red you do like a really really light lime type green. I think that would look pretty fucking sweet. Almost like the Fenway green. And I know you're a Yankees fan. I'm a Yankees fan, but yes, that shade.

Absolutely. That's just my prediction for that. Now we get a crazy action sequence. An action sequence that you could really only expect in like like, a movie, I feel. You don't see these extreme things. I guess you saw, like, dragon riding in Game of Thrones, but that's the only thing I could compare it to. Where Moff Gideon comes down,

he starts dropping lasers, dropping bombs with his TIE fighter, and the Mandalorian fucking snatches onto it, uses his jetpack and his grappling hook, and is, like, trailing onto the end of it like he's tom cruise in mission impossible he snatches up to the top of it plants a charge on the wing blows that shit up moff gideon the tie fighter goes down did you know immediately that guy's

still alive because i was like oh he's gotta be that seemed a little too easy and i i i have this in the notes and i don't know if you agree with me. I felt like our boy Gus went down like kind of a bitch. So the fact he's not down and out, but I wanted to see, like, I guess it kind of comes back to, like, if you're in the Empire, you just don't win. Like, there's just no way. TIE fighters are just not very. He went out like Darth Vader in A New Hope. Same way. That's fair.

That's a fair point. Just kind of circled off. We didn't know what happened to him, but they showed us the PS. If they showed us a PS of Darth Vader, that would have been kind of sick in A New Hope, but they were like, we don't know if we're getting a sequel to this thing.

Yeah, exactly. So we'll throw a PS just in case. The TIE Fighter, I wrote just like the AT-AT scene, kind of like you said. It's like the scale of this one in a typical star fight, it's just one little piece of character to it all, where when it's, you know, just a bunch of just regular people on the ground,

it is a fucking monster. It's terrifying. That was one of the times where I was like, again, Mando has kind of come and gone in terms of like how awesome I thought he was from episode one, I thought he was great. Then there's times where he's kind of, he shows weakness obviously as you would have with any hero this one i was like that was that was the shit that made boba fett cool you know resourceful using his all his tools his little you know tricks and tricks of the trade

and all that stuff so i love that um this was like a scene that i could imagine myself like playing action figures with like with with my Boba Fett. Oh, and he fucking grappling hooks onto the TIE fighter. And the TIE fighter's dragging him around. And he finally blows up the wing. And that's what The Mandalorian has done so well. That's what I said about Chapter 3 when the entire covert came to save him. I felt like I was waiting to see an entire clan of Boba Fetts come in and save another Boba Fett for my entire life so it really

satisfies shit that we've always thought about as Star Wars fans but never got to see in live action yes and speaking of which IG-11 thermal detonator I now have I have a little respect for the latest scene with the thermal detonator in Jabba's Palace because it was always like everyone's just freaking out I'm like what's the fucking big deal? It probably explodes. No, those things are fucking dangerous. Those are like grenades on steroids. Carl Weathers also at this point, when the TIE fighters first start shooting at them, has the best line of the episode when he's like,

come on, baby, do the magic hand thing. And he started tweeting it too. He had the most – I'm going to pull it up live on the podcast because he just has the most wholesome Twitter feed. It's at the Carl Weathers if you want to follow him. I would really recommend it because he's always just – he's tweeting funny things about The Mandalorian and all that. I'm going to do a live follow right now. I'm following Carl Weathers as you speak.

And this is his end of season tweet. He said, Thank you, amazing fans, for the wonderful words tweeted regarding The Mandalorian. Your enjoyment and appreciation for the work done by the creators, directors, cast, and crew fills us with all so much pride. Until fall of 2020, do the magic hand thing, baby. Hashtag be peace. It's just like fucking Apollo Creed. You're the man.

We love you. You have to admit, the way he says Mo was the only right way to say it was like yeah like a rising charm to it i don't know how to describe it i absolutely love it um the the bait you know do the magic hand thing some it's always weird when baby yoda is involved in anything that's r x-rated kind of memes about it and it's like you know when i'm just about to finish off and like oh baby yo but that's pretty fucking funny pretty fucking funny so grief karga at this point says goodbye to the mandalorian with kara dune he invites kara dune into the man into the bounty hunters guild which i assume will play a big factor next season i love that we'll get her as a bounty hunter and mando goes off with baby Baby-O, gets on the Razorcrest.

We see that he has given Queel a proper burial, gave him a grave, put his hat on top of the rocks. Very nice. Kind of an emotional moment. And he flies off. We pan down. And we see Moff Gideon slice his way out of his TIE fighter with the Darksaber. If you're not familiar with the Darksaber, I'll break down the entire history of it in a second. Clem, what did you think of the entire ending of this episode, the episode as a whole, and the big reveal?

RIP our dog, Nolte. He was a good guy. I was holding out hope he was somehow going to make it. I also realized Mando's mob squad is no more because we've lost two of the heavy hitters of it all and it's probably never gonna be you know again when i thought the mandalorian was gonna be this thing that constantly grew grew and everything you know grew together and went to the same parts we are in the serial mode as it turns out i'm fine with it um so that was rough our boy yo got a new chain fresh to death got the mando fucking yeah he did he got he saw he did i forgot to mention that yeah um and

yeah oh my god how much money are they gonna fucking make on those at galaxy's edge bro so um and then i my my line here is we're doing lightsabers. That's a thing. I had no idea what the fuck that was about, which you will obviously tell. And do we know whose boots those were? Is it Gus? Is it still unknown? We know it wasn't Gus. Okay. We know that.

Honestly, and I don't mean to say this to get everyone's hopes up. I don't want to lead the listeners down a path of excitement and hope that I can't deliver on. I really do at this point think it's Boba Fett. I didn't think that at first. I was like, there's no fucking way. At this point, I do. I think it's Boba Fett. I've listened to the audio files

that I once mocked, and they're pretty much spot on. From Empire Strikes Back, when Boba walks up behind Vader in that dinner scene, I'm telling you, it's like the exact same audio file that they used from the end of Chapter 5. It's almost like it would be too good a work or too much of a coincidence and too good a work for it to be anything else. I'll say this. Whoever it is, they want you to think it's Boba Fett. Yeah, which makes sense either way.

So like you don't have to convince yourself it's definitely going to be him because you don't want to be let down because I think that's a big part of why a lot of people get upset about Star Wars is they get something in their mind and it ends up not being that but yeah I I was watching all that stuff it's like when Tupac when Tupac was alive and all the the theories are going around if you want to believe something and then someone throws in anything that is relatively like plausible let alone like those audio files are right there like i'm i'm hook line and sinker i'm bubba right now yeah so i i i do think it's him the dark saber now when he cuts through you see it for the first time did you know what this was at all or no i thought this was straight up walmart like this is this is the lightsaber for

the person that is not force sensitive it doesn't know the first thing about the jedi so turns out not i yeah i would say it's definitely it's of great importance in the star wars universe i'll break it down here so it's it's hugely used in the clone wars and rebels but i'll say this i haven't seen rebels i know a lot of the storylines of rebels i know a lot of the arcs i'm interested enough to see all of that, and I'm just catching up my way through The Clone Wars now in time for Season 7 coming up in February. But that's also a show where I've seen a lot of it. I've seen episodes here and there. I basically just did a ton of research as a guy that isn't super familiar, isn't a hardcore Clone Wars guy, And here's what I got on the Darksaber. So this was an ancient weapon owned by Tar Vizsla. Tar Vizsla created it, and he was the first ever

Mandalorian inducted into the Jedi Order. This was 1,000 years before the Clone Wars. He passes away, and the Darksaber is taken to the Jedi Temple for storage, for safekeeping. Nobody really knew how the weapon worked. The weapon actually has a force sensitivity about it, so the more aggressive you are, the more unstable it is, kind of like Kylo Ren's lightsaber. It's shaped like a katana sword, not like a regular lightsaber. It actually looks like a warrior's sword.

House Vizsla, which is his clan, his family, his ancestors, break into the Jedi Temple, and they steal the Darksaber back during the fall of the Old Republic. We don't know a ton about the Old Republic in Star Wars canon. That was a thing in Legends that they kind of wiped away when Disney got it. So the lightsabers pass down from Vizsla to Vizsla, generation to generation, and the owner of it was generally looked at as the leader of Mandalore or the leader of that clan. Pre-Vizsla, the leader of Death Watch actually had it during the Clone Wars. Pre-Vizsla in the Clone Wars, voiced by Jon Favreau.

So he's the one that has it during the Clone Wars, and he is the leader of Death Watch, the group of Mandalorians that rescued the Mandalorian himself, the terrorist organization of Mandalorians I mentioned earlier. So that's kind of fucking crazy that there's obviously a very, very deep connection straight there with Death Watch and Moff Gideon. Darth Maul defeats Vizsla for the rights to Mandalore and the rights to the Darksaber. He fucking beheads him on his throne literally darth balk cuts his head off with it he then lures obi-wan's girlfriend who is a mandalorian to mandalore fucking kills her right in front of obi-wan with the dark saber then he battles the

emperor with the dark saber he battles count dooku with the dark saber and he battles general grievous with the dark saber he stores it on mandalore for decades and decades and decades sabine wren eventually this is a character from rebels comes down gets the darksaber maul puts like a spell on her to make her fight her own friend ezra and she snaps out of it and then wields the darksaber as her own. She's a Mandalorian. She gives it then to, fuck, this is so confusing. She gives it to Bo-Katan at that point, who is another Mandalorian. Sabine Wren went off with the Rebellion. She's like, my heart was always in the Rebellion, not necessarily in the Mandalorian culture. And Bo-Katan is the last person we see it with as far as Rebels. So Rebels is right before A New Hope,

and then it's missing throughout the entire original trilogy. Obviously, the timeline is missing, and then we get it here. So I don't know when it came into Gus Fring's possession. I don't know if it had to do with Death Watch. Bo-Katan was not involved with Death Watch, to the best of my knowledge. But that's the long history of the Darksaber. I hope I broke it down easy enough because it was confusing putting that together. It was confusing reading that.

Did that explain a little more? Yeah, yeah. I got a quick little video of it about kind of what happened. And I think it's one of those things that go on – that on wikipedia yeah that's a mixture of that it's a mixture of some youtube videos it's you could find out a ton about it it might be easier to actually look it up and get to read or watch these videos so you could see the characters like when i say bo katan when i say sabine wren when i say pre vizsla like you might not know who these characters are and the names are obviously all star warsy and confusing, just like Game of Thrones names kind

of are. But this is like part of the thing that I wanted to bring up that I love the most about this show, because I sent some of the backstory to my cousins and my cousin's husbands and some people at Barstool that weren't super into the show, my brother-in-law. You can really enjoy that as just a casual Star Wars fan, as someone who isn't even super familiar with the lore of Star Wars. You could be like, oh shit, a black lightsaber, that's dope. And oh shit, Mandalorians are coming and saving the Mandalorian, what a cool scene. But if you really want to dive deep, you can. And there's like a deep history that this show has to dive deep into because of the cartoons. It's awesome that they're not ignoring the cartoons at all, and they're kind of like focusing in on them.

Yeah, no, I – that was one thing with Watchmen. When I went back to Watchmen, I really like got a deep history of it all, and it really made the show better. And granted, some of it was stuff that I kind of like just, you know, glossed over with the movie and stuff like that. But like, this seems like they're embracing some of the older stuff that, you know, I know I haven't watched. I basically just watched whatever movies were out there. I haven't watched any of the cartoons or any of that kind of, any of the expanded universe

really. So, and probably the little expanded universe I knew from before the Disney stuff is probably dead by now. Do they kill shadows of the empire? Yeah. Yeah by now. Did they kill Shadows of the Empire? Yeah. Yeah, so stuff like that. I read the fucking book. I read Shadows of the Empire book, Bob.

See, so they killed that, but certain aspects of it I think they've either teased or brought back. But I know Shadows of the Empire went into how Leia got her disguise for Return of the Jedi. She got it from somebody in Shadows of the Empire, and I know they've already went back on that, and Maz Kanata gave it to her instead. So certain things they've removed. I think they should fucking make certain things from Shadows of the Empire canon again,

and that could be a certain thing you could do in these Disney Plus shows. Bring in some villains from that, bring in some aspects of it, like that sed underworld from shadows of the empire some of the coolest stuff in the star wars universe and also the emperor having like a second hand that nobody knew about kind of fucking cool like the yeah kind of the cd underbelly from solo that you kind of get like a whiff of like that had some shadow of the empire

vibes to it as well so i i imagine they probably will and i'm fine with them just kind of killing it and starting fresh but i mean at this point we have we're gonna have to wait and it's almost probably a good thing that they're not giving us all these movies and all these shows that it looked like all these trilogies were coming they're gonna take their time with it so to fill in the gaps like just go back and watch some stuff i'll probably get into watching some of the cartoons of my daughter and go from there so So, again, this Darksaber, like the more you kind of learn in the background of it, it's just going to make everything not only easier to understand, but it's going to make it feel like, oh, shit. And you're going to get kind of an appreciation that I'm sure a lot of people were popping off with that did know that stuff. Definitely.

I'll try to find the list. I know there's a list somewhere out there of all of the Clone Wars episodes that involve the arcs of Mandalorians and Mandalore and all of the pre-Viz-la stuff. If I could find that list, I'll post it on my Twitter and I'll post it on the blog and all of that. Because it's one of those shows where it's sort of like The Mandalorian. You can go in and watch just like three episodes and understand everything that's going on as long as you pick up the context clues. So that might be informative for you and like a bunch of the listeners but now we say goodbye to the mandalorian i mean it's not coming back till fall 2020 i don't know what we're gonna do we're gonna have to figure out something else to talk about

next week i think i'm getting into some of the mma stuff being conor mcgregor's fight is on the horizon we'll be in a new decade next week that kind of fucked me up rob i was sitting there after after the credits were rolling i'm like oh wait shit like me and rob aren't gonna be talking about this next week i got kind of sad i got a little sad about it um and then i also realized that the fucking mcgregor fights in like two and a half three weeks less than three weeks now january 18th i can't fucking wait i'm starting to get i'm like actually starting to get really into it starting to get fired up starting to get into that executive director of support mode where I'll post a blog just knowing that people are going to be like, you fucking – let me just – real quick. The blog I posted today –

You had a blog that said, if you cut weight, you're a pussy. And I'm like, my blog's coming in hot right now. And then I'm like, oh, OK. I get it. I posted a blog tonight, Sunday night, and the headline was, If you cut weight, you're a pussy. You know, a nice click-a-baity headline for people to get into. And the whole blog is just McGregor posted a tweet that said, Weight cutting pussies.

And the context behind that is he's not cutting weight for this fight. They're doing this fight at 170. He generally fights at 155, but it was sort of made on short notice, and he's like, listen, there's no title on the line. This is just a fight for the fans. This is my return fight. Can we do it at 170? Cowboy was like, fuck yeah. So I posted the blog and I said,

yeah, you heard us. Putting it plain and simple for you is, if you cut weight, you're a pussy. That's why we're not cutting weight for our fight with Donald Cowboy Cerrone on January 18th. Just gonna do it at 170 despite the fact that we're all natural 155ers. We're showing up and fighting with

no distractions like men. We're eating steak. We're eating potatoes. We're eating ass. We're eating elk we murdered with our bare hands. We're eating whatever the fuck we want because we ain't got no weight to cut. Pussies. God, I love Fight Camp. And Clem, this blog has

more comments than any blog I've posted in weeks. It has 11 comments on the Barstool Gold site. People on Twitter have been hitting me up. How could you disrespect every athlete that's ever competed and put their bodies on the line in this sport? And it's like, oh, man, these were people that weren't around during the last executive director of support run. I said in that blog, we're eating ass. It's not a serious blog i you know what we might need a break rob because i'm not i don't even know who you're about to turn

into you're about to turn into someone that's you know again i haven't been in a fight my whole life i'm not ready to be fighter of the year i'm scared of you i get scared of you i get worried about you during these these little runs with connor connor's kind of like me and connor are like you know one's your home friend one's your like you know camp friend connor's the guy that like you're fighting people with and he's a fighter and i'm just a big old lovable bear in the basement that just likes talking star wars and nerdy shit with you so but we do have some stuff coming up obviously we got the announcement for season two which is fall right fall of Fall of 2020? Fall of 2020, we got season two, and Jon Favreau has already put out a picture, a sculpture of a fucking brute-looking Gamorrean,

like the Gamorrean guards from Return of the Jedi. Did you see that post? Green pigs, yeah. Yeah, insane. I mean, that thing looked like, it looked like, now I hate to say this, a Star Trek villain. Oh. Just the way it was almost Conan,

the barbarian and the shit it was wearing. You know what I mean? Yup. And how you had like the, the ripped off, uh, like the, the bracelets or whatever.

And I was like, I kind of wanted to be like, Oh my God, look, baby Yoda's grown up in season two. But then I just have the people on Twitter who didn't get it was a joke. You just have to, yeah,

this is the thing you have to avoid. People are like, Jesus Christ, spoilers, dude. Like, uh, no, I wonder if Jon Favre and dave filoni are just sitting around and they like put on an original trilogy movie and they see the gamorrean guard and they're like boom there we go yeah let's let's use those like do you think they just do that i that i would that'd be my process

i hope either that or like it's like he's always had the story he wanted to tell like you know everyone has their own he's also that like crazy star wars brain like dave people say that dave filoni knows more about star wars than anyone on the planet really oh i didn't know that that's pretty fucking awesome george lucas considers him a son wow he's like a son it's like poetry um but they're like i bet one of them is oh i bet I bet Favreau has always been like, I want to do a Gamorrean Guard or whatever. Like, if me and you ever get our hands on a fucking show, you know Lobot's getting in there. Oh, Lobot's getting in there. Oh, and I meant to mention this.

Kevin Smith recently posted his Rise of Skywalker review, and that was like his number one thing. He's like, how couldn't we get Lobot? He's like, I just wanted to see. He was like, I wanted to see Lobot open those eyes. Yes. He said it. So you and see Lobot open those eyes. Yes. He said it. So you and Kevin Smith are on the same wavelength there. All right.

For all the MMA fans that have been waiting around, I hope that some of the MMA fans sat through and listened to the Mandalorian discussion. If we got some crossover there with, you know, your barbaric human cockfighting fans, and then you're also fans of the Mandalorian. I mean, maybe you're watching for Gina Carano. Now we got the 2019 Fighter of the Year, Jorge Masvidal. I want to thank all of the listeners to My Mom's Basement in 2019. It's been a great year for the podcast.

We debuted at the end of March. Here we are. We're, I think, over 60 total episodes into this thing. Clem, you've been on probably the majority of them at this point. I'd like to thank you for doing the podcast, as always. And we'll get into this interview now. Jorge Gamebred Masvidal, the baddest motherfucker in the game. All right, welcome back to the show.

It's My Mom's Basement, and I am joined in studio by the man I would call the 2019 Fighter of the Year, the Breakout Star of the Year, Jorge Masvidal, the baddest motherfucker in the game. Jorge, how you doing? Great, my brother. And what do you hear promoting? I hear you got this YouTube channel that you're getting off the ground here. Oh, definitely, definitely. Jorge Masvidal, just my name.

Got a network, got a lot of training footage, a lot of content leading up to the fight and stuff. I saw you put up a bunch leading up to that Nate Diaz fight. It was cool to follow you along in that journey. Yeah, I usually don't open up so much, but YouTube's some serious money, man. I'm going to go get this fucking serious money, you know? Hell yeah. So I want to talk about the year you just had in MMA. I mean, obviously, you were the fighter of the year, I think, unquestionably.

But also, I want to talk about your beginnings because you've been fighting for a long time. You've been fighting since you were a little kid, correct? Yes, sir. Do you remember the first fight you ever got into? Yeah, more or less probably like five, six, seven years old around there. And you just – you were kind of – you say you were bred by fighting, right? Yeah. You grew up fighting, fighting in the streets, fighting in backyards, fighting wherever you were to survive.

When did that go from this is what i'm doing just by nature of this is where i'm living this is what the environment is like into i could do this professionally oh i knew since 12 13 years old already and you wanted to be a fighter professionally since i saw the ufc the first time it just i still remember that feeling where it just kind of like stopped me froze me in time you know because i was in love with boxing i was in love with wrestling at the time and the first time i saw wrestling was olympic wrestling but by the time like 13 14 i was already like middle school high school i'd already seen collegiate wrestling and i loved it man i didn't have the grades to compete but if not i would love to have given it a fair shot you know just wrestled that would have been another turn in life

that i would have done i'm a huge fan of wrestling, so I would have loved to wrestle. So when I saw the UFC, I was like, wow, I could do both of these things, both of these first loves that I've had at the same damn time. So that's exactly what I did. I fell in love with UFC, and after that, I just put the blinders on. It didn't matter if I was street fighting or not. I knew I'd be a prize fighter. I knew I'd get to this level, to this point one day.

And when did the more organized street fights come out, the famous Kimbo Slice-style backyard fights where they're being videotaped and you almost have a matchup ready to go? When did that come about? I was young. Still hadn't turned pro. And it went from me and Kimbo were out of the same gym, and Kimbo was cool enough to talk to me

and say hey would you want to fight and I was like hell yeah it would be a lot of experience a lot of exposure Kimbo was already huge and if you remember back in the day you might be too insane even like I'm almost too young for that side of Kimbo but by the time he debuted into the UFC I even knew that was a massive deal

yeah yeah yeah that was huge you know he was the scariest man on the planet for a bit I feel like on the internet Yeah, coming out of YouTube When he took that guy's eyeball out That was like That was like the most scariest infamous shit you could find Like who is this animal man?

So what was the aura around those events? Like showing up to fight in a backyard with Kimbo Oh, amazing, amazing I grew up in that So I love that I feel right at home I mean, there's some elements I don't like because there's sore losers. People might take weapons and people's friends and stuff. But the sheer aspect and competition of it, it sounds so stupid.

But if me and you went to go play a baseball game or a basketball game in our neighborhood, there'd be no problems involved with it. There'd be no hard feelings about it really, right? I kind of look at it the same thing for fighting. It what i enjoy to compete in it's it's what i adore i love the math behind the signs the angles the conditioning it takes to be able to compete at that level the discipline to go to the gym and just repeat the same movement over and over and over and over and repeat it more than everybody in the gym till i got it better than everybody in the gym all those aspects of it i love so it's not really always i'm i'm the tougher guy All those aspects of it I love. So it's not really always I'm the tougher guy.

I want to prove it to you. To me, it's like a pickup game almost. Yeah, it's like a pickup game almost, you know, like, all right, let's do it. You know, I had a little bit of preparation. I'm ready to go. Let's do it. You know, it's just like a pickup game. Dude, it's crazy to me that you and I are the same species

because I can't ever imagine just, oh, let me go fight someone in Kimbo's backyard like that could take my head off potentially just for fun. That's the thing, though. I don't think like that as far as like, oh, man, I could get serious. I know I'm in a fight. I know there's a lot of risk, but the reward is so much greater than me. And I got the Superman complex where I'm like, nah, nobody's going to hurt me. I'll be all right.

I mean, right now, how could you not with the year you had? So let's talk about the year you had. You started things off in London with the Darren the darren till fight that darren till fight you're coming off a loss against stephen thompson you're going into enemy territory and you go out there you start the fight with a running kick to the cock unfortunately you didn't mean to kick him in the cock but this was one of the more absurd openings to a fight this year what was the thought process like because i feel like this will you know we'll show some growth by the time we get to the ben askren fight we'll show thought process like? Because I feel like this will show some growth by the time we get to the Ben Askren fight.

We'll show how that could go very right. In this one, what was the thought process to starting the fight with that kick? Maybe two weeks before, I fucked up my knee pretty good, right? Okay. Did you win a tilt fight? Yeah.

I jammed up my knee pretty good. I got into a good scramble. I got a nice little tear in my meniscus. Nothing crazy. My knee was just jacked up, you know? was like man how cool would it be if i fucked up till his knee and we're both fucking on not the greatest of knees you know so my plan was just to run in and uh side kick him on the hip or or the leg or the thigh just get just get that leg and just compromise it a little bit he pivoted a little bit and turned out.

So as the kick was landing, he had already moved out of position by a couple inches, and I got him in a spot where you shouldn't be hitting people in. Yeah, and then he goes, he drops you in that fight. Yeah. And he got you pretty hurt, it looked like. Yeah, he stunned me. You get right back up, and you knock him out brutally.

I mean, when people say shadow realm, it was one of those knockouts. The entire crowd fell silent that had to feel amazing and then afterwards you served up what you referred to as the three piece in the soda to leon edwards who's still out there talking trash against you is he yeah saying things lately yeah i think he has i mean he's been he's been doing the thing where he dismisses you and claims he's not talking trash he's like no i don't care about that guy all i care about is the title he just he just needs to do his own since the start this individual's been calling me out you know he called me out when he when he beat somebody that had knocked out

he called me out and i said yeah maybe maybe not then you know i'll fight you i respond to your call i'll fight you if that's the most attractive table in the offer seems like you respond to pretty much every call out year you're not one to back down. No, no, no. Especially if it makes sense. But a lot of times in my career that held me back because I'm not fighting the guys that I should be for the right checks and stuff. Leon is on the personal side. If I see him and he says something

slick, we'll handle it then. But on the business side, it has to make sense. He's still ranked under me. He hasn't finished nobody in the top ten. And I got like six other fights that bring in lucrative paychecks. Don't get me wrong leon's been winning so i'm gonna do everything on my end to one day be in the cage with him if he keeps winning and shut his mouth fucking for good man because that guy loves the fucking to talk shit and then act like he doesn't talk shit man how do you how am i doing an interview and you interrupt me in the middle

of my interview knowing that i'm doing a fucking interview, knowing that I just closed out the night, I just stole the fucking show, I'm the main event and I just won. How are you going to try to do that to me to get yourself famous? I can't relate to individuals like that. I'm not that type of dude. I'm not going to say this guy's a bad car salesman so you can buy a car off me. No, I'm just going to work better and harder than this guy. I'm going to sell more cars for my boss. This guy is fucking selling more cars i'm not gonna sit here and do

that type of of shit like him and the guy that got his jaw broken that that's how they roll off negativity enough downplaying you to make themselves bigger that that's not really me i don't i don't like that i can't relate to that you know and those type of people i i dislike man so that's why they get what they get i think that's probably part of the reason that people respect you so much. And this was, I feel like, the launching point of this year, right, for you. What changed for you? Dana White says you got way more serious about mixed martial arts. Would you say that's the truth?

Or was it the way you looked about training for fights? Was it the way you went about fighting itself? Was there a big change in your mind or no? Definitely a big paradigm shift, I think it's called. Yeah. Happened. Numerous of them happened. Cut off a lot of negativity.

Kept the circle even smaller and then made it even smaller and just been downsizing ever since. I don't need stupid things in my life that could lead me straight from the path. We have our goals set very high for 2020, so it's no different than 19. We got a lot of work to do. I got to get to it, you know. There's not a day I don't step on that gas pedal and just see where I'm at. I just want to get after it as hard as I can.

You know, I won't let nothing stop those goals. I have three years left, 2020 and up. So I got to give it the best, man. There's a lot of things I want written in my chapter of life before I close. I can't close this book yet. I got a lot of things to do. So that means a lot of people are getting baptized. It seems like you have that set on your sights.

Do you think, though, going forward, you're going to look at fights differently the way you pick fights? Like you said, you were fighting the wrong people at the wrong times. Now, what is your mindset as let's say the BMF champion? I know that that's not a belt that will get defended a ton, but let's say your mindset now, are you looking more towards dream fights, the fights the fans want to see like the Nate Diaz, or more towards, hey, Usman's got the title now, I'm still gunning for that welterweight title, I want to be the top of the mountain. To be honest with you,

there's a lot of factors that come into place. And there's a lot of things, like that title's always going to be there. Every year, somebody's going to have that title. There's some other super fights that are super circumstantial, that are not always going to be there, that that are not always going to be there. I'm not always going to be able to take them next year or this and that.

That are just there for that moment. Being if those fights come into place. For example, Conor beating Cowboy and Conor actually was serious about fighting me. Obviously, I take that fight. Not only is he a champion, he's a two-time champion. He also has the world record in fastest KO, but in the belt section. So that's definitely somebody I wouldn't mind competing against I'll be a thousand percent transparent with you here

I'm a big Conor McGregor guy myself I just gotta put that out there it's been tough watching you and him go back and forth because I'm a fan of you I'm a fan of him it's gonna be tougher when I lay his ass out oh man that's tough to hear I gotta shatter his fucking jaw

I got nothing bad against him fucking, his jaw is mounting. I got nothing bad against him. I don't got no ill will against the dude. It's just when it's fight time, the only way to separate yourself from the pack is to annihilate the person you're in there with. To keep getting the paychecks that I'm trying to get, I have to decimate people. I have to no longer leave them with us, you know, when I'm done with them. Do you think he's fighting Cowboy at 170 specifically for that reason to show dana white maybe that he is big enough for you i i think he could be i think also maybe he's been away from the sport he didn't want to cut down on 155 there's a lot of things but i think ultimately yeah he wants to test the waters at 170 he did right um

45 55 70 yep so i'm guessing he he wants those those three belts well he's got to go through me if he wants a shot at that belt. You know, if you want the BMF belt, there's only one motherfucker that has it. One out of one. It's very true. So I'm here, man. If that's something he wants to do, that's something we'll do. If not, we'll just wait for the next biggest fight because Kamaru's going to be out for, what, like nine years because of injuries now? Because he just had a five-round fight.

We all know how that old man does. He's going to be out for, what, like nine years because of injuries now? Because he just had a five-round fight. We all know how that old man does. He's going to take off indefinitely. And then when he comes back to the sport, the fight, he's going to say, I'm ranked too low, though. I'm ranked ahead of the guy that he's calling out, Leon Edwards, that he beat. So you see, without calling him a coward, you see, because I want the regular fans back home to see it, like, how it works, how the politics works. This guy's calling out the guy that's ranked under me that he already beat yeah and he's saying that's a more deserving fight than me when that guy hasn't finished nobody yeah and he's saying that that guy's more deserving of

a title shot than me when i have twice as long fighting as both of them i got more knockouts than these bums have fights you know it's kind of fucking scary and also records aside wouldn't it just make more sense for kamaru to want to fight you because he would definitely get paid more like that yeah yeah but bigger fight but that would require that he has a brain to think you know what i'm saying you're a smart dude you could you could see that farther not only am i skilled and i'm ranked high in this dude but i'm also a fucking hype train your name yeah they're calling me an overnight sensation i've been in this shit 16 fucking years. I was going to say, isn't that a little weird, the overnight stuff?

Because you haven't been here for so long. 16 years. How I see it is- Do you take offense to that? I take super offense to that. Yeah. Every night, I fucking train my ass off. And you're going to call me an overnight sensation?

I kind of get it. And with the same token, before I get challenged for the belt, I had to go and get famous. Literally. And that's not easy, man, to get famous nowadays. I can't imagine. A lot of fucking famous people. I had to go and literally get famous, come back. Now I can challenge for that belt if I wanted to.

Now I'm above that belt because I got my own fucking belt. I don't need that belt. I got the one that I want belt. But since they said that that's a belt and they say that he's good and stuff, I'm going to prove to the world how good I am by embarrassing this dude, you know? And also, that's another person that's been talking a lot.

So if you sense my animosity to him, I just think he's a fucking actor. You know, I think he talks too much. I can't wait to beat him and his 17 personalities up. Did you see his fight

against Colby? Did you watch that? What did you think of that fight? Because I sort of felt like it was the fight that we didn't expect. I felt like they sort of fought that BMF style as opposed to their normal wrestling style.

Which is good and bad. What they're known for, for making their money, is for wrestling. So I see it two ways. They were too scared to wrestle into each other. And also, they cared too much about what the public thinks. So the public was saying, you guys are going to have a boring fight. So they both decided to strike to please the public. You got to win, man.

That's the first thing you got to do, young man. So I know, especially Usman, I could get in his head easy. Because he said numerous times that Kobe was in his head. And then he said how emotional and upset he was. If a JV beta trollman like Kobe could get inside your head, don't sign the bout agreement with me. Don't. Because I will fucking eat you up man and and he knows and he's his coaching staff all my graduating class team members from american top team when we split up and there was a whole civil war american top team black zillions and then he's he's a seed off the black zillions because they're not they're the

funk now but he's like what survived off the black zillions so a lot of his coaches that are in his corner know me they were tortured by me in the daily and practice at the practice with me so they're talking to him and they're telling him that he is who he says he is don't take this fight man so make every excuse you can name everybody else you can but leave that one dude alone because i will embarrass him man and colby is still training at ATT? Colby right now is training how to sip a soup through a straw. Yeah, he probably is. I send him a kit of straws, you know, like a Hello Kitty one, a little Disney one, so he's got his options. It's nice of you, you know, as a former quote-unquote friend of his.

That's a very nice thing. Former quote-unquote teammate as well. Yes. So the Ben Askren fight. I was there live for it i was on press row and i've referred to this knockout multiple times as the most insane thing i've ever seen in real life with my own eyes it was because i here's my thought process i'm watching you back up against the fence you know you put your arms behind your back and in that moment i was like you know i remember

he started that last fight with some crazy running kick i I wonder if he'll try that again. And as I was thinking that, the fight was already over. And I was even blocked by part of the padding. And when you were tapping next to Ben Askren, you know, taunting him, I thought you were still beating him up. And I was like, somebody's got to get this guy off Ben Askren. Stop it. You're going to kill him. Ref. You knock him out.

This blows you up immediately. The fastest knockout in UFC history. You went on every talk show, every this, that, the next thing. I won't ask you too much about it because you've probably answered everything there. No, that's cool. I do want to ask you about your most recent tweet towards Ben Askren where you kind of showed him some respect. It was the first time in the whole rivalry where you gave him some credit and you said you took that loss like a champ. Well, there's not nobody in their mama can say Ben Askren is a punk or a coward or any of that stuff.

He went and did Ariel Hawane right after he was tweeting. He wasn't reporting fans to Instagram. Yeah, he put some funny tweets. Well, that sucked right afterwards. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he didn't report fans for clowning him, you know, which goes with the sport. You know, if I get clowned by the fans, obviously not everybody's going to love me. I'm not everybody's cup of tea.

I know that, you know. But this individual, the other guy that got his jaw broken, he's censoring the comments. He's reporting you to authorities. Yeah. Fans, guys that he was calling snowflakes, virgins, bitches. Nerds. He said, bitches. Nerds. He said nerds. Nerds.

You know he was talking to me when he said that. I appreciate that one bit. And he also would say how he triggers people. Marks. Calls us marks and triggers. And I got a reaction out of you, sucker. Well, why did you run out of the cage crying? That was a hysterical clip, wasn't it?

Somebody got a reaction out of you, you fucking clown. And it's crazy. He got, I think, so far and so much notoriety. crying that was a hysterical somebody got somebody got a reaction out of you you fucking clown and it's crazy he got he got i think so far and so much notoriety just from attaching himself to the trump name just like trump trump trump trump and trump giving this boy a handout you know just being like all right man here you go you you you know i just see it like uh like man you're really kind of here famous because all the people that dislike the trump movement and stuff that are trolling him that are fucking that have millions of followers on instagram like oh look here's that make my job great again guy you know and and he's getting trolled but that in him getting trolled he's still getting impressed you know it seems like

his whole personality is just that he enjoys donald trump yeah that that's all he ever has to say and he has a million donald trump quotes He's got the book and yeah, whatever. Grab him by the pussy and this and that. And man, Trump could do it. He has some type of charisma, but it falls short when this guy tries to do it. Yeah, so you get the main event at Madison Square Garden after this against Nate Diaz for the BMF title. You pretty much spoke all of this into existence. You had the rock strapping it around your waist. You had the finish even though it was a bit of a a bizarre finish the fans didn't like it in the moment i feel like

now especially in retrospect everyone knows that the fight was aiming towards that direction anyway yeah i mean i didn't i didn't see it going any other way in the fourth and fifth round we're just gonna get bloodier it's not like you get hit in the chin this is what like common folk doesn't understand it's not like you get hit in the chin you get stronger you know more times i've hit you in the chin and dropped you not just hit you in the chin and you survived dropped you your chin is getting weaker for that period you're getting more abuse same thing with the body just comes to a certain time when when that bag will just pop you know and that bag was gonna pop in the fourth or the fifth round i was just gonna keep laying in in the hammer and just, I haven't liked a lot

of what Nate has said afterwards. He's called me a quitter and I've never quit in a fucking fight in my life. 50 something probably. It seemed like you guys were so respectful in the lead up.

We were. So respectful even afterwards. But that sourness, that is like, especially to a guy like me and he knows what he's saying because he wants the rematch but he doesn't have to say this

for the rematch. You don't have to question my character, what I've done for 16 years. I've never fucking quit. I've never even tapped out. You know that? I've been in some missions

where I know I'm fucked and I'm going to fight it to the end and then I've gone to sleep. Not that I'm proud of going to sleep, but fuck it, I'm not going to tap. So for somebody to question my gameness, it's super disrespectful. So me and Nate will get after it at some point.

Does that make you want to fight him less when he goes about it that way? Or does that make you... No, it and me and they will get after it at some point you know does that make you want to fight him less like when he when he goes about it that way or does that make you does no you know he's trying to get the rematch when he does that right he's trying to get the reaction i know he's trying to get the but he's gonna get the wrong reaction he's gonna get something that uh the ben askren reaction maybe yeah those two extra shots before the referee can get the reaction you know because i i i didn't insult him or anything during the fight i could say a million things. Go do some fucking ass. After the fight, you even said you would give him the rematch. Yeah, and I would give him the rematch.

You know, I'm going to do some things now. He's got to do constructive surgery or whatever the fuck on his face. You think I'm going to sit around and wait for this guy for the damage that it did to him? Go fix your shit up and go get your knee good and go run your fucking 48 miles a day. So then you could start from round one 100 miles per hour. Because I also heard another theory that he was saving it for the last two yeah okay that is what he said in the okay you know i'm just gonna fucking let you hit me for a five round i'm just gonna let you hit me with a fucking refrigerator to the face for three rounds and then i'm gonna hope that you're tired though i'm

should be though he's saying he wasn't in great shape that he was gonna save for the last two runs that's fucking nuts, you know? Yeah, so going forward, kind of last question. Right now, what are your sights set on? I'm not asking for an opponent. I'm just asking, in Jorge Masvidal's mind, what do you want to accomplish in 2020? 2020 will be accomplished without a doubt in my mind.

Three fights will take place. Three finishes, three huge fights each one of those fights being the biggest one of that time of that so that moment like me and Nate were in New York and we just froze the world it'll be the same thing for the next fight I'm gonna freeze the world and make sure that that is the biggest fight that could possibly be made at that moment and so on and so on and so on and I'll be I could be competing three times next year and three baptisms man that's that's what we could expect wow unbelievable sent sent chills down my spine when you said that i really appreciate the time