My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 413 - MORE NERD NEWS AND INVINCIBLE SEASON 3

Episode Date: February 28, 2025

Robbie and Clem are back with the final NERD NEWS edition of the podcast prior to #DaredevilBornAgain - breaking down the #Andor Season 2 trailer, Kathleen Kennedy maybe stepping down, the current state of #StarWars, TONS of Marvel/DC news, and more! Plus, Clem gives his thoughts on 'YOUR FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOOD SPIDER-MAN' and the boys discuss #Invincible Season 3 Episode 6! **************************************** My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike! Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement, presented by Barstool Sports and a packed nerd news edition of My Mom's Basement. As packed a week of nerd news as I could remember, it is Robbie Fox and Clem here to break it down for everybody in our last episode before Daredevil Born Again hits. Clem, how we doing? Doing good, Bob. Nice dense episode coming up your way.

Lot of stuff compacted. And like you said, I feel like the content dam is about to break for us starting with Daredevil. We do have some invincible stuff like you mentioned. And then I think we're gonna start rolling at some point with all the other different projects that are coming and or Last of Us, obviously Daredevil, the movies. So let's rock, baby.

I feel like the frigid, the winter of content is thawing now. And we're about to have a thaw. And I got breaking news. I'm no Ponzi-Tucky Phil. But I walked outside the other day. And I went, news. I'm no Pong's a tuckie Phil, but I walked outside the other day and I went I Smell spring. I just got a little whiff of spring and I was like, I think it's here. I think it's coming You know, we don't have to wait too much longer. So sounds like Bob got a whiff of the country's Bob's milk

I think we have our I think we have our hashtag for the episode We're gonna let you guys know. Hashtag come trees. You couldn't even make it 60 seconds into the episode without dropping a come. The YouTube algorithm is probably yelling at us right now. So funny. Let's tell everyone about the basement keeping

before we get into the nerd news. As I've been reminding everyone, Marvel Rivals streams every Tuesday at 4 PM. The last stream was good. We got off to a win right away. It did good numbers wise. I was very happy with it. Been playing with the chat as well. That's been fun. I've been liking the new characters. So tune in. We also did a Pico Park stream on Wednesday. Pico Park, this little, I think it was a Switch game that's now on all consoles and stuff.

You play as these little pixel character guys and you try to help each other out. You're all a team. It was me, Meek Phil, KFC, and and it was chaos but I thought it was pretty funny so go check that out if you missed it. When I saw that crew together I was like hell yes I'm in for whatever this is, I don't even know the game you guys are playing. It's fun, you would like it I think, it's so simple it's left right jump, those are the controls and I'm sure it gets more complicated as you go along but all the levels are just like little puzzles where you have to work together and it's like frustrating. It's one of those games people recommend you don't play with your significant other. They're like this will cause arguments. Yep this will break up break up relationships

essentially. I mentioned Daredevil Born Again that hits Disney Plus on Tuesday and if you're like damn I never watched the original series or I didn't see some of the other things Wilson Fisk and Matt Murdoch appeared in, I've got you covered. Just like I did for Captain America Brave New World, I made a video still kind of in the editing process of it. Everything you need to know before Daredevil Born Again. So it's not, I talked to you about this, Clem, it's not a complete recap of everything that ever happened in the Daredevil series and everything that's ever happened to Matt Murdoch and Wilson Fisk, but it's not I talked to you about this Clem It's not a complete recap of everything that ever happened in the daredevil series and everything that's ever happened to Matt Murdoch and Wilson Fisk But it's pretty much everything I think would be beneficial to know going into born-again

I think the video is gonna be around 16 17 minutes So you could recap three seasons worth of daredevil the defenders Punisher echo Hawkeye Spider-Man She-Hulk There's a lot and it took a lot of work. I wrote the script. It's like 3,600 words that I had to read for the video, then edited the whole thing. So please, please, please, when that hits the channel at 3 p.m. today, go check that out. Give it a thumbs up. That's all we're asking.

This is Bob's. This is, I think, your most important one you'll ever do because I think there's a lot of movie ones like you'll do Oh, you're gonna do one for fantastic for you. You just did one for Captain America This is I feel like the one that's gonna have the most people who especially if it's as good as a review say People are gonna be into it and they're be like, oh man, I'm going in this thing's already started baking in the oven So they need to go back the height from just the reviews this week has gone up. Like, it feels like it's skyrocketed. Like, if you look at the analytics, it's like, oh, whoop.

Because every review is like, oh my god, it's as good, if not better than the original show. It's as violent. It's amazing. They sent out the full season worth of screeners to people, which is always a good sign when they're like, yeah, take the whole fucking thing. Like, they're laying it all out on the line

So I'm really excited for daredevil born again And I finished the original series of course to make this video and just finishing the series Made me so excited because it's cinema Clem. It's it's as good as people say it is it's fucking amazing Like season two gets a little weird with like, I don't want to say generic superhero stuff, but it's like, oh, they're, the hand is draining the life force out of kids and they turn into zombies and it gets a little supernatural, resurrections are happening. Season three goes right back down to grounded level, bullseyes dressing up as Daredevil, framing him

for murders. I told you, Daredevil only wears the Daredevil suit in season two of his show. That was one of the most mind-blowing things to me. He wears the homemade suit in season one and season three and my recap I know it's not like the most well edited recap on YouTube. There's plenty of channels with amazing editors that do a better job. I'm going for the common man recap though. I'm going for a recap not necessarily for the masses, but specifically for the stoolies, like for the Barstool fan who, you know, I have friends that will or cousins even that will text me about, Hey, is this show worth watching? Hey, is this show worth watching? And I'm not the kind

of guy where I'm like, yes, you have to watch everything and lock in. I'm like, ah, you could probably skip that one. This is for the people that I said that to about She Hulk or Echo or any of those shows. You know what I'm saying? It's very much and I think thanks to technology, you don't need to watch the show. I'd watch the YouTube breakdown of it. Bob gives you the break to break down and it's not too dirty. It's not too long. Some of these, again, I was looking for recaps myself.

I wish Bob said come out earlier So we didn't watch all these other ones because again then some of that stuff is a little too nerdy They give the old YouTube voice where they talk like that Don't like that I have to hear that in my kids YouTube Bob's doing it for the common man And we got to keep these things rolling me because we got plenty of other stuff coming along down the line here Marvel DC Star Wars, and more. Yeah, and the last thing I just wanted to plug was check out the dozen episodes from this past week,

because the Basement Boys were running wild. For the first time ever, we used each other as back-to-back phonofriends. And I think the funniest part about it, watching them both back, was that we both just asked the other one for reassurance on the answer. Like we both were the first ones to suggest and be like, is that right? And the other one was like, yeah, a hundred percent definitely go with that. So we did the same thing. It was two good matches too.

It was fun playing against Gruden, I assume. Oh, Gruden's the man. That's a good team too. I think they're going to be a problem. The only issue they have the grinders that is it's Gruden, Liam, Blumman and Malisek is there's a blank spot because Gruden anything that's before that's after Gruden's time, but before the two youngins time, like they have, you know, Liam Blumman had no idea how Josh, Josh Brolin, how old he is. It's like, and then there was a couple of questions like

2000s instead of 2010s, 2020s or like 90s when Grootin was probably a little more plugged in. And, you know, desert. It's a desert there. So it was great seeing the basement boys. Again, the basement boys, what's in the basement? We all love each other. Listen, just the reason you're basically a little bit of confidence.

We both were 100% confident in our answers. And we went to our boy and our boy, you know, built us up. That's what we do in the basement. We build bridges, we build each other up. Exactly so let's get into all of the news and fun stuff we have to talk about this week starting with a new trailer for Andor. I actually saw a tweet like the day before this trailer dropped that was like hey it's two weeks to the or two months to the date before And or drops, where's any promotional material? And it was almost as if Lucasfilm saw that and we're like, oh shit, put it out, drop the trailer.

We've been sitting on this thing. Really cool trailer visually. I think everyone had a similar takeaway from it though, where we were like, oh, interesting audio for this trailer, interesting song they went with. It's kind of like a folk rock song. I think it's a Steve Earle song and I know what they were going for because it's like a revolution song. It's a fight the man song. It just clashes a little strangely with Star Wars especially like Andor Star Wars but it looks even bigger budget than the last season and you would expect that because they said this is like the most expensive

Star Wars project ever made. After Tony Gilroy knocked it out of the park with season one, they pretty much said, take all the money you want and just do what you want. They even say in this trailer, they're like, season one, critics loved it. Like they say right off the bat, they're like, I swear people actually liked this show,

tune in for season two. But it's like season two can't possibly be anything but better with Krennic with Saw Gerrera back with K2SO joining the fray right it has to be awesome this isn't one of the star wars shows that sucked nobody really complained about it other than the first few episodes where everyone was a little unsure that that's like that could have been the the curtail cousin from the bear joined the fray i think it could i don't know about should be better probably should i just want to like almost doing this for myself and maybe for some people yeah temper the expectations temper the expectations i should just in terms of this just i don't want anyone to say like, oh, man, it's

not going to be as good. This and that. It's like we had some pretty high like I'm not talking like some episodes for sure. But like there was the moments we had the moments we had the speeches. We had three speeches that were like, oh, fuck from three different characters. And like, I'm not going to put that burden on this season, because like, it, Edward felt like we found not like $20 in the couch,

we found like a million dollars in the couch. But holy shit, this couch we were ready to throw out years ago, this Star Wars couch, and it was so fucking awesome. We found Action Comics number one in the couch. Yes, exactly. Mint, mint, mint, tang, you know? Perfect condition and everything. And man, I just hope, and the song, exactly. everything and man, I just

kind of weird but hey, it' you do get new people int one before I see season t breaking down all you nee into two and hey, maybe we a different show. It just as a video breaking down all you need to know about it. I can do that. Yeah. Right. And then I can do that for sure. Go into two and hey, maybe we just they just hit it out of the park here. It's going to be a different show. It just has to be. And then I was like, I was like, oh, yeah, of course,

you're going to have Forest Whitaker. Oh, yeah, of course. You know, like I didn't think about all the Road 1 people coming back and it makes a lot of sense. So I mean, I'm excited. I'm as excited as I could be for a Star Wars show. I think that's a fair way to put it. I'm as excited as I could be for a Star Wars show. I think that's a fair way to put it. I'm very excited as well. I'm also dreading seeing the demise of Luthor and Raell.

I think that's gonna be an absolute, like, for sure he has to die in this series because his life's work has been sacrificing everything for the Rebellion. And it's that sunset, that sunrise that he'll never get to see, or he's planting seeds, and the whole fuckin' speech, he shares his dreams with ghosts. But yeah, that does worry me. I also like the idea of trying a rock and roll song for a Star Wars trailer.

There's a trailer that was released, a fan-made trailer, back for Rogue One, that uses sabotage by the Beastie Boys, and it is badass and it kind of does feel like it fits the tone of that. There's also that War Pigs video that we've posted on our Twitters a couple of times. It just like does edits of all the Star Wars stuff. Like it could work so I appreciate them going for it and trying something different but it was it was a little strange for me there. I probably would have preferred just an and or score behind it and the other thing that they talked about it

That was interesting. It has a weird release schedule They're doing three episodes a week and every three episode chunk will cover a year or a chapter Leading up to Rogue one and I think this is a good idea in terms of they have so many years to cover So I don't think they wanted to do like we're doing a time jump every three weeks and confuse people like house of the dragon confused simple Trent. But at the same time you're asking a lot of people to watch three hours of television a week, I think. So I'm a little worried that it'll set themselves up for failure ratings wise,

even if the quality is amazing. Now, what was from from what you saw, what were the reactions like to seeing the schedule? Very mixed, I would say. Some people think it's awesome. And like, I think diehard Star Wars fans are probably like, oh my God, we're getting three hours of Star Wars a week. This is awesome.

I think other people are more like, oh, this is a burden to watch. Like, if it's gonna be three hours a week, how do I find the time for that? If I'm also watching Severance and Last of Us or you know, whatever's on TV at the time. God forbid you go on vacation this week, then you're down your six episodes or you have to I mean, for us too, it's going to be interesting. Like we're probably going to do recaps in three episode chunks, I would assume. I don't think we're doing three episodes a week. So as someone that recaps it,

and will watch it with like, hopefully some love in their heart for the series, there are so many different ways you can go about a series where you're gonna have these time jumps, and it was just kind of what they had to do with the way the story was laid out, and the way that, how many seasons they're gonna do for the show.

This feels like it might be the way to go though, in terms of, it's like, like you said, House of the Dragon and just all these, you don't know where you are, you have to spend a couple minutes filling the audience in with little plot hints about stuff along the way about what had happened over the years. This might help and you're gonna have people just aging up or whatever.

So I'm personally cool with it. Again, I'm trying just to be like a solid, like 85% in terms of hype. I'm not trying to get too hype. I'm mostly trying not to be a negative Nancy and get you down. So it's like, let's get this going. I almost just want to unwrap it right now. That's like a good level to be at. That's where I try to get at for pop punk shows. I always say when people are on backstage before going on stage, people are like, are you amped amped and like I'm actually trying not to be Amped right now like I'm trying to get on stage at 85% and have the crowd be awesome be maybe like alright now

I'm at a hundred Let's fucking go But you don't want to be at a hundred before it starts because then you go out if the crowds at 85% or friend doors at 85% you're at a hundred. It's still amazing and it still feels like a disappointment So you get a list eight that 85. It's that one bite pizza review. Uh, you know, David Lee says, can't give a Ted, you know, perfection. You know what else it is? I've heard Francis, I believe it's either Francis or Rowan say this, that there's a toast.

I think in Japan they say like eight tenths and it means like get eight tenths full because you don't want to be feeling gross after this meal. Don't go nine tenths. Don't go ten tenths. Go eight it's almost like eight tenths on Andor, eh? Yeah, you don't want to be full, you don't also still be hungry and snacking on junk the rest of the night. Eat your meal and feed eight tenths. I like that. I'm adopting that. I'm gonna adopt that. I like that. When I heard one of them say it, it always stuck in my brain. I think they said it like a year ago and I've always been like, I like that phrase. All right, so we've got some Star Wars

news as well. Big news this week. It broke in the middle of the night from like a site called like Puck News or something. They were like Kathleen Kennedy is finally stepping down and retiring as president of Lucasfilm at the end of this year. The internet explodes as you would expect it to. There's the blogs from Jerry, she ruined my childhood. There's me and Ken Jack going back, it wasn't that bad. Don't blame her for everything. We've kind of gone through this on the podcast multiple times. I feel like I think people know where I stand on it, where I'm like, if you want to blame her for all the bad, let's also give her credit for some of the good, the Mandalorian and or stuff like that. But that's an argument for a different time because apparently this is not the time she's stepping down.

Somehow Kathleen Kennedy has returned and she said, yeah, I'm not stepping down yet. She's like, I probably will. The way she came out with her statement was basically like, yeah, I'm actively looking for people to take over, but I'm still going to be around when they take over. I'm going to help out. I think this was like on both sides. I think the initial story was probably half right and I think Kathleen Kennedy's statement was very fair where she's like, yeah, not right now. Probably not at the end of 2025, but it'll happen soon. Yeah, you just hope it's not going to be all of a sudden in 2026. I saw Jim Bayheim as the Syracuse coach and then by the end, I think they had a literally like drag him off the bench.

And let's be honest, they have not improved since Jim Bayheim left. They've gotten worse. So it's not always the best thing, you know, you take out the problem with this is when she does leave, they have then no one to blame. There's not like the emperor. I know they can say she is she is the one people love turn into Kathleen Kennedy and you know, Acolyte, whatever it may be. You're right though. Once you do that, who goes in charge? Is it Filoni? People are talking about Filoni. Some industry insiders are like, I think he would get killed from both sides.

Like the Hollywood people will be like, you're trying to be this artsy creative guy. And the artsy creative guy would be like, you sold out. Is it going to be Kevin Feige? Could Kevin Feige move on from Marvel after Secret Wars and decide he wants to take on a new franchise? Or does he want to just ride off into the sunset, look over his happy universe like Thanos? I don't know. Yeah, I it's it's tough. And they always say Goodell is kind of the owner's,'s like their shield, that takes all the bullets for them. And it felt like that's what Kathleen Kennedy is

for the Star Wars franchises. And if you do throw one of those beloved, like what's his name, Filoni feels like the secret lamb, where it's like, he's our guy and the Star Wars people will go to war for him. Nice pun there, Clint. But I feel like-

We don't know what the job consists of. I've said that a ton too, where I'm like, I don't know how much you could blame her for because I don't know what the president of Lucasfilm does day to day. Obviously it's approving projects that have been delayed and canceled time and time again, and I blame her for that.

And for that, I think she's not the right person for the job. Like for all the defense that I do for her, I don't think she's the right person for the job at this point. I think she's proved that in her tenure. But when Lucas appointed her president, I don't think it was that crazy. She's like maybe the most successful movie producer of all time, or one of, you could call her one of the most successful movie producers of all time. It's just, it's weird now. We're now in a weird limbo era for Star Wars, where she's still developing some things,

but she's apparently on her way out. She had this weird quote about the Taika Waititi Star Wars too. Did you see her quote about the Taika movie? No. Clem, I hated this. She said, I think if we ever do get a script from Taika, it's going to be fantastic.

I already saw a first act that I loved, but tying him down is tricky. What are we talking about there? Listen, I love Taika Waititi. I love a lot of his work, Jojo Rabbit, obviously Thor Ragnarok. I'm a pretty big defender of love and thunder. I love the guns and roses in that movie.

I love what we got of Gore. I love the black and white sequence. I can defend aspects of that movie. If Taika Waititi can't be tied down after you've given him a Star Wars movie, it's not like Matt Reeves where he's working on the script constantly and just can't finish it or something. You're saying you just like can't get in touch with him. Give the Star Wars movie to someone else. Star Wars shouldn't be chasing down Taika Waititi. Taika Waititi should be chasing down Star Wars. We shouldn't be forcing this movie because you saw first act that

you loved. That's a quote where I'm like okay what are we doing here? I feel like I can blame her for. Can I say something here in the basin? I think we're gonna be on the same page. Kind of sick of the Taika Waititi bullshit now. I think Love and Thunder it's's like it's over now It's overdue you fucking you had your air ball If you're not gonna chase it get the fuck out of here time. There's no tykes. No tykes allowed in the basement There's a new side. I don't know we can't hit the note. I can't allow the made Ragnarok. He did make Ragnarok He brought Corgan to the world. He's the voice of cork He had that you know nine to the world but he was the voice of Corg. He had that, you know, not into the world

He was with the two girls, right? That was like a big yeah Pessin Rita or yeah, I'm not saying just I could Listen listen if he fails one more project no Tycus allowed and if I won more How about this too if like more Star Wars shit comes out where it's like they were begging him and he's like no I don't have the time. Oh yeah. And then they saw him go in the pool. Yeah he's disrespecting the wars. No Ty- and again this is not Tyka with GD.

No Tyka's at all. So any other Tyka. Yeah. Tyka Jones. He's not allowed either. Tyka Smith. None of them. There's only one person in the world that us Star Wars fans let disrespect the wars and

that's Harrison Ford or ourselves what we just Harris afford has definitely has that Kathleen Kennedy to I Don't I don't come out of the fence of Kathleen Kennedy because that'll get everyone mad at me But let me just say this about Kathleen Kennedy. I don't even know what again She's the head of it all and everything under her you kind of have to put at her feet, right? That's good, bad, and ugly. She also wasn't in charge for the prequels and I know you

motherfuckers are deciding to make these things fucking better than the original trilogy. Those things stunk. I said it on the dog walk last week when Eddie took the Phantom Menace as a 1999 movie. They stunk. You guys could have your little glow ups and They you were a kid when you watched them Whatever anyone with a full-grown brain knew those movies stunk and she wasn't in charge then so the Star Wars have been in trouble For a very long time now. They're just the original trilogy has done so much fucking Heavy lifting for all of this entire franchise and they were so good they could pull it off. But let's be honest, it's not like she took over, you know, the fucking 98 Yankees and

then just, you know, drove them into the ground. Yes, correct. And speaking of those fucking shitty prequels, it's the 20th anniversary of Revenge of the Sith and it's coming back to theaters and I will be there no matter what. One of my favorite movie experiences I've ever had, seeing Revenge of the Sith, the Richfield Park movie theater with my cousin Kenny, my uncle Kenny, my brother,

I brought a spoon for my popcorn because the spoon was a lightsaber. It came in a cereal box, and I said, I'm doing it up. I'm doing it back. I brought a spoon for Kenny. We had a little spoon lightsaber battle. It cereal box and I said I'm doing it up. I'm doing it back brought a spoon for Kenny we had a little spoon lightsaber battle it was an amazing experience I can't wait to see it again I had fun seeing the Phantom Menace on May the 4th last year this year it's on April 25th I think it's like the official anniversary still wondering if they're gonna attach

something to it last time we got a little bit of the acolyte with the Phantom Menace I would like to have a little bit of anything with Revenge of the Sith But I am really excited for that and I'm still planning some special May the 4th and May maybe on Star Wars dreams So I think we did the the rewatch for Revenge of the Sith and I remember walking away going Okay, that wasn't the best of the prequels. It was the least bad of the prequels because it has some fucking awesome moments. It has some awesome moments. But I don't think saying the again the best of the prequels is like being the smartest person at Barstool. I think it's a very low bar it's the most athletic

person at Barstool even better after the combine was yesterday right you see all those idiots running and lifting and jumping and you're like well I don't even care who won it it's the fucking low lights that everyone remembers. That's what I'll say about this. However, there are the moments and we all know some bad moments that no, the great moments I'm talking about. Oh, I think you're talking about. No. Everything, you know, basically from the time he flips to the time, you know, that happens. Awesome. We're just going. And on the big screen, like say what you will

about that movie. The CG is really fucking good in that movie. The opening sequence with the fucking war drums and they're coming over in space. That's like what I put on if you get a new TV. It's like, oh, that's a good thing. That's your tester. The sound system, all of it.

It's like perfect for that. So seeing that on the big screen for the first time I might go back to Rochfield Park See it in the theater that I saw it in in 2005. That's the theater I worked in to maybe my fucking AMC thing will be hanging in the rafters It should be after the amount of $1 hot dogs I sold This this this is a long shot, but I'm gonna give you a chance here Bob. Do you still love the spoon? No, I don't think I could. Ah, but I could like totally picture the spoon. It was a hilt and then it was the it was a clear plastic spoon that came off. So it was washable. You could put it

back on the hill and then you could press the button. Maybe I'll order it on eBay before revenge of the Sith. You know, with you, I you're just enough of a sicko. I thought you might have still had this moon and you're gonna like pull it out of your drawer and be like I use this Every Saturday morning, so that's my Bob Fox Whimsical kid joy sound I also want I also want feedback from the listeners here because I think I'm gonna replay They made revenge of the set the video game which just about the movie I think it actually released like a couple days before the movie if I'm correct about that Which is fucking crazy because it includes clips from the movie, like the ending, like spoilers weren't as big a culture in 05 at all. But I think I'm going to replay that, like maybe try to beat it in one sitting on stream the week that Revenge of the Sith re-releases. And then for May the 4th, I want to know, would people rather see me try to like, start to finish, beat maybe Lego Star Wars, something

like that, or just do a huge like 12 hour stream, 10 hour stream, where I hop around and play a little bit of Battlefront 2, a little bit of Revenge of the Sith, a little bit of Phantom Menace, Rogue Squadron, maybe hop around and do like a scrapbook full of the best Star Wars games of our childhood. Let me know what you would rather see if it's like a challenge stream, try to beat one game or just try to bounce around and give a bunch of nostalgia for fun Star Wars streams. You're talking about the Skywalker Saga nine movie game?

Either that or like the complete saga because the original is so nostalgic for people. I would do either. Like I love both. Okay. The only other Star Wars thing I had, Don Levy's Star Wars movie, starring Ryan Gosling, will be shooting next, apparently.

Knock on wood. Who knows? Set five years after the sequel trilogy, some of those characters may return. I would like to see those characters return. Like, we don't need to just do away with everything, that Disney parks fucking exists, we have the characters there, bring them back into the loop. Do it well. Do it with the gosh God, but do it well. This just kind of takes me back to the Kathleen Kennedy stuff. Whoever takes over for her, whatever it may be, whether it's a year or

20 years from now, they need the first project they announced to happen because I don't think it's gonna happen. I still don't think it. I am still in the place where it's like nothing here is actually gonna happen. So I hope it does. I agree. Yeah, it's not even yeah, you're right. It's not even worth really breaking down yet. Let's talk about things that did happen going over to DC News. This past weekend Colin Farrell won yet another award for The Penguin. Give it up for Colin Farrell. This time it was the SAG Award. Very good speech as well.

He was thanking everyone just like he did for the Golden Globes. Such a fucking humble, wholesome guy. Kristen Milioti unfortunately robbed yet again. The SAG Awards off the list, out of the basement. Baby Reindeer once again beat Kristen Milioti. We're coming for that Emmy though. I believe Baby Reindeer was nominated for last year's Emmys so they can't be nominated for this year's Emmys and it better not be fucking Jodie Foster for True Detective Night Country again. He also commented on doing

a season two. Thought his quote was very, very good. I thought this was the right mindset to have. He said, I would hate to was very, very good. I thought this was the right mindset to have. He said, I would hate to, just because of a quote unquote success, have to go again and for it to be a diluted version of what people seem to feel it is. So I'm in no rush. I have no deep desire to do it. As much as we loved The Penguin and we would love a season two, I think we agree that we really only want a season two if it could live up to the first season. So I think that's the right mindset to have, not just like, yeah, we gotta do a season two, write the script right now. Yeah, and I don't know if the whole, I think there's enough shit going on in

the Max Universe that probably the big wigs who are gonna want those numbers and the critical acclaim aren't gonna force it yet, but maybe down the road. They probably are doing behind the scenes just from what I can gather how Hollywood works but man that first that season was so good and it's gonna be so hard to like I mean it's nice that you don't have to do the whole origin and you know kind of like start with the scrab and you build out the childhood and everything else but man it was just it's so fucking. You know what I watched the other day? I was like, I was like, I'm in the mood for that scene.

I can't really put my finger on it because there are so many scenes that I think we all think of with the Penguin. And it was, where did you sleep last night when she burns down the house? And I was like, I feel like this got so, this would have been like one or two for certain shows in terms of a season, in terms of scenes.

But there's so many other scenes that like were so epic that went above it and it just fucking I rewatch it it's haunting man it's perfect yeah it's perfect and they caught her on the red carpet again being like yeah I want to team up with Zoe Kravitz really bad we could fuck shit up together and if that doesn't happen in the Batman maybe it happens in the Penguin season too so that could work so I guess that's one way you can make it a really good season and you're not going back to the well. RIP our dog, I forgot his name.

What's our Vincent? Who is this buddy? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. RIP our dog, that's tough. But man, if Christina, I can't. Vic, Vic, Vic, Vic, Vic. Christina, now how do you say her last name right? I don't want to mess it up here.

Milioti? I think Milioti? Oh man. I'm going to go on Twitter later. I'm going to see if she has Twitter. I doubt she even checks her tweets if she even has them. I'm going to say if you win the Emmy, I need you to get on stage and say, this was a huge win.

Give your love to the Penguin and say, everyone that watched How I I met your mother knows The alternate endings the better ending of the day My career would have been remembered differently if they had actually nailed that ending instead of screwing it up the way they did as As well as the whole final season so again no one saw I said I was gonna talk how about your mother After that first rant I had last year. I just had to let it out. That's our girl. We're riding for her Um invest in the Emmys for just her at that point and that's not I had last year, I just had to let it out. That's our girl, we're riding for her. Invest in the Emmys for just her at that point. And that's not, I don't think the Emmys is for a while. I think the Emmys is like maybe like September,

I could be wrong about that. No, really? It's a long ways away, I think. So my brother did give me the idea, he's like, you guys should just try to make a campaign to get her on the podcast. We could give her her flowers and maybe mail her the first like basement award

I like that. It's a long shot. I know that's her that's a pipe dream with someone like as Not a list but as in demand in hollywood right now is kristen millioti nominated for fucking golden globes and shit What do I know shoot for the star shoot your shot? There the international emmys are november. I don't think that's it. So primetime Emmys. Yeah primetime I think so. Oh my god, cuz there's all that the weird thing about the Emmys too is they have like the the JV Emmys that they give to like Jeff D Lowe no offense but like Jeff D Lowe isn't winning the Colin Farrell Emmys. September 14 2025. So we're talking up ball season football season guys. Oh More DC news we got the first look at Aaron Pierre and Kyle Chandler as John Stewart and Hal Jordan and Lanterns just a picture Of them walking along the street, but people of course zoomed in on the ring on Hal Jordan's finger, and they're oh shit There's the Green Lantern ring. This is the show that was given a lot of true detective comparisons It's got a director

from The Sopranos, a couple directors from House of the Dragon. Damon Lindelof is one of the brains behind it. I am really excited for this. They said it's designed to be accessible for people who don't know the mythology, but hopefully really satisfying for people that know it backwards and forwards. I'm excited. I don't know. I like the whole cast. I like everything I've heard about it and I like that they're filming the projects that they announce. Yeah, that's the most important thing. Did you see our boy Jose? What he said about your tweet? He quote tweeted it. Yes, he's very, very excited for this. Yes. He said, let me see if I can pull that up here on the fly. Green Lantern has been and always will be a space cop.

The GL Corp solving space mysteries is peak comic book lore. When Jose is speaking like that, you know he's breathing heavy just thinking about the different stories that have taken place. So the stories are there. We think the actors are there. It sounds like the directors could be there.

Obviously the big man in the big chair with big Jimmy Gunn. Excitement, excitement, which is crazy to think how excited we are for DC. Remember when we were like- I know for Green Lantern too. It's like, not necessarily, he's not, he's a Justice League member, all due respect to Green Lantern,

but he's not a fucking A-list DC character. And we're fucking like, let's go. We're getting Hal Jordan and Jon Stewart on screen together. That's another thing. They're fucking like let's go we're getting Hal Jordan and John Stewart on screen together That's another thing they're bringing like generations together because John Stewart is like for my generation He was the one in the Justice League cartoon So that's like ours Aaron Pierre is kind of like that feels like our Green Lantern, but Clemmer texted me right away I was like, oh my god, I love Kyle Chandler's he playing Hal Jordan like I love some old gal

Jordan stories so they are they're doing a good job with multiple generations coming together, multiple Lanterns coming together, great casting, Damon Lindelof, I'll frigging follow into fire at this point. Yeah, that name carries immense amount of weight. So to the casual comic fans like me who have never seen anything, I always was like Green Lantern seems like

he should be awesome. I mean, like you said, he's in the Justice League, he's in the Justice League. He's in the mix. He's a name that you hear of. But I've never seen any of the shows or the cartoons either because I just they just miss me or I heard bad reviews and stuff like that. And I feel like this if they nail it. And again, I always go back with James Gove.

We made you care about the Guardians of the Galaxy. If we can nail it with a guy who has the kind of cache and he's going to be a big part of the universe moving forward, man, that's just be another huge win for DC. It does feel like I feels like there's a lot of DC parallels with the commies right now, right? It's like the Washington commies, by the way, if anyone's not a football fan, they must be like, what the fuck? You know what? Let's go with Manders. Let's go with the Manders. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It feels like there's a, you know, kind of was bottom feeding for a while, had a lot of problems at the top that were causing all those issues. And it's like last season, it's like, oh man, they got it together. And I feel like DC might be going on the same kind of run here.

So hopefully not. Is James Gunn JG5? But he hasn't never thought he'd be compared to that before. No, he also confirmed that a Teen Titans movie is in the works. Another very nostalgic thing for I think kids my age because of that cartoon. Anna Noguera, who wrote the Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow script is developing this script. Starfire, a member of the Teen Titans

is getting her own animated series, as well as a Green Lantern animated series and a Superpowers school show. So it's a bunch of like young heroes and Martian Manhunters, the principal. Sounds like it could be either like an adult comedy or a kids show, another cartoon. Here's my question for you, Clem. DC wants to release two live action movies a year, two live action shows a year, two animated series, and an animated movie every year. Seven projects. Is that too much or is that along the path you think they should be going?

I mean, it's one project every two months, give or take obviously, right? Because it's seven in 12 months. I think that's a table. And a bunch of them are animated too. So I feel like that changes things. It's not like you have to watch the Adventures of Green Lantern and Starfire if you care about Superman and

whatever. But I do worry when I saw seven, I was like, ooh, and it said they're gonna do this for six years. I, it's like, I don't want them to be like, all right, we need to get that seventh project in, you know, before December 31. And it feels rushed. I don't know, man. It's like, again right, we need to get that seventh project in, you know, before December 31st. And it feels rushed. I don't know, man. Again, I'm kind of going in just optimistic. It's like after the creature command, it's like, damn,

that was fucking really good. And they made me care. And that counts as their animation. It's like, I don't think with maybe, I think Marvel's success, now that you mentioned it, I think maybe Marvel's success was kind of they were a victim of it, because when they were putting stuff out,

you felt like you had to watch it, because you watched all the movies. And it's like, no, we should have just been skipping a lot more, you know? And some of the stuff probably wasn't for us. And I think even by the end, we were just like, all right, we're not gonna cover this one, you know, every single minute.

I think for Echo, didn't we say we were like, we're doing one episode for Echo? We're watching say we were like we're doing one episode for Echo? We're watching all series, we're doing one episode. And that took a few years for us to finally get to that place, right? Yeah. And a whole bunch of shows. God, I wish we got to that place for Secret Invasion because we spent the first few episodes being like, I don't know, Ben Mendelsohn's good, right? Like, Samuel Jackson, like, this is gonna pay off, right? Like, they're definitely gonna, let's give it time. Let's wait for the finale then Drexar Dude, I saw the um actor who played the bad guy forgot his name Oh is it it was like Kingsley Benadir is like Ben Kingsley, but not Ben Kingsley Yes, exactly the guy plays Bob Marley in the Bob Marley. Yes, and I straight do yeah

He was awesome, and I saw a clip It was just a quick clip of him when someone was just saying everything that's wrong with Marvel basically And I was like man, it was just a quick clip of him when someone was just saying everything that's wrong with Marvel basically. And I was like, man, that guy was good. He got fucked. He was even like not even a bad character. It's just he was in a bad show, you know? So it was a bummer. So again, there's a chance DC does go that route

and we're looking back in 2028 and being like, man, we should have just been a lot more skeptical about seven in 12 months. But again, it goes to the top. I have faith in you, whoever the commander's owner is. It's like it starts at the top there and goes down and you kind of have faith with everyone along the way. He also said that they're going to put out four seasonal crypto, the super dog shorts

to keep crypto and everyone's like mine, I think to keep Superman in everyone's mind as well. And it will be the same crypto that appears in like mind. I think to keep Superman in everyone's mind as well. And it'll be the same crypto that appears in the movie. I love the idea of this. I almost like if they would put this before like whatever the next movie is Supergirl or whatever, give us a little crypto short before the movie like Pixar. I was going to say those Pixar shorts.

They always hit for me. I am the I am Groot ones were great too. Yeah, I think he was involved in those or were they like the first thing he wasn't involved in? I was trying to figure that out. Cause I was like, this feels very I am Grootish, which obviously he has a connection to Groot. So I was wondering maybe that inspired him,

even though he wasn't a part of it, wanted to be a part of it. Cause those were great. I mean, they were five minutes a piece or not even two minutes a piece, but I really got a kick out of all of them. And you're not going to have a, you know, 5,000 word hit piece against how bad

a rush that was. You would hope not, at least I think we would not do that. And listen, if you can't just be happy with a dog, it's for kids in the end. Whatever gives a shit. Some things that are on the docket, but not going well for DC. James Gunn said Waller, they haven't cracked the scripts yet. Booster Gold, a showrunner almost joined but lost interest. And The Authority, the script had a harder time coming along. Three things where I kind of feel how I

felt about the Taika Waititi stuff. Where I'm like, all right, Amanda Waller, her own series, I mean, great actress, great character, but I don't know if she needs her own series. Booster Gold, another beloved character from the comics, but a more obscure James Gunn feeling one that doesn't need to be here right away on the first phase, first slate. And the authority who I believe will appear in the Superman movie, they wanted to spin him off here. Three things that if you're having a really hard time coming up with the script or show runner, don't force them. They better be really fucking good for any of these three things to go get greenlit

and into production whatnot. So I just feel about all three of those things if they get canceled, I wouldn't be upset whatsoever. If they get greenlit, I'd be a little trepidatious based on how many issues they've had. The Waller stuff could be cool if it's not's not just I mean she would clearly be the center of the show but it's just everything she touches because I feel like she can go around the universe that could be cool.

I think if you just stick her into one story or one thing I think it could get boring. I don't know again trust the God for sure. Viola Davis is also like one of those actresses where if you give her the right script she could put up like a Colin Farrell type Tangent performance thousand percent was the show runner Taika. What's eating is there? I'm telling you Taika. I have not I have a bad taste in my mouth with Taika. What's eating right now? I hate to say it cuz he fucking made Ragnarok. He brought fucking guns roses and led zeppelin at the Thor He brought Korg into them MCU stop bringing up court that stop fair. He's Corrigan to them MCU. Stop bringing up Corrigan, stop fair.

He's so fucking awesome. I just read Planet Hulk by the way. Shout out Jake Bass lent me Planet Hulk. So I read the whole fucking comic and they took so much for Ragnarok but in such a cool way. You know, you could see where Corrigan meat come from. Corrigan the comics, how about this?

He fucking has like a weird dinosaur looking head and he's like yellowish orange Which I assume they were like hey, the thing is yellowish orange and he's made of rocks So let's change core for the movie good move. I think Corg is blue actually looks better But yeah, that surprised me Planet Hulk if you're looking for a Marvel comic to read anyone listening I would recommend very good silver surfers fucking involved. It's like Ragnarok anyone listening, I would recommend very good Silver Surfers fucking involved. It's like Ragnarok, but like different and on steroids in a way.

And Thor's not in it, obviously. It's funny. AJ saw the I showed him the Fantastic Four trailer. He goes, isn't that Thor's friend but a different color? Because he saw a thing. Yeah. So I was like, nope, different dude. Made of rocks. You're going to like this guy. I don't know if he's going to like him more because like Korg is so like fun, but he is just little parts where I think thing he's going to really just like this guy. I don't know if he's going to like him more because like Korg is so like

fun but he is just little parts where I think thing he's going to really just like this guy focusing **** like smashes more than Korg too. I feel like he's a fan too which I love. He's going to love. Oh, Drew. Yeah. Um and then the only other DC

thing I had Jeremy Allen White who is rumored to be taking on this Sergeant Rock from Daniel Craig reportedly turned down the role. So, we lost another one. Yeah, there's still one the the the the the the

the the the a character that's open that's close with the thing. I don't know. I feel like I'm not as well read enough. If we had Jose on the show, he'd be like, oh, obviously, the thing's cousin Thorc. It'd be a 20 minute thing about this comic arc that was the greatest ever. It would be such a job for small time.

Yeah, Jose would reach behind him, pull a book out of a shelf and be like, you guys don't understand the first printing. Page 127 is one of the greatest pages I've ever read. We got to get him back on soon. I'm sure. So I talked to him about Daredevil. He watched.

This is so classic Jose. He watched Daredevil season one, loved it. He was really pissed off by the portrayal of Electra and Daredevil's mentor, Stick, in season two, so he was out. He stopped watching it, he was out. But then I tried to get him back in by texting him, like, dude, season three was fucking good. Because another confusing thing about Daredevil,

they did the Daredevil Born Again comic in season three. Daredevil Born Again will not be the Daredevil Born Again comic. They're just using the name as a pun because they brought the show back and whatnot. So I was texting him like, dude, they did fucking Born Again. You gotta check this out. He was like, all right, I might have to check out

the new show. So I'd love to get him on the show to get his daredevil thoughts after watching Board Again. If my boy, Jose Youngs, is nothing else, he has principles. And if he doesn't like the way they do one of his characters or art. I appreciate that. He could just cut it off.

He's out. I don't have that willpower. I'm like, I have to finish it. I just have to see it through. I feel like Jose cuts it off mid-episode, mid-season. Like, season two, episode four, he was like, I was out. Once Electra said this line that she would have never said in the books. Yeah, the guy's the best. Speaking of Marvel, Dare Devil Born Again obviously hits Disney Plus on Tuesday with a two-episode premiere, and

they're already filming season two with the goal to have a new season every year. Another thing that I feel is a huge green flag for a Marvel show and we don't usually get those where they're like let's fucking crank this out because we got something here and it took a little bit for them to have something. The early word was like it's not going to match the tone of the original series, it's not going to have Foggy and Karen as two best friends, the two main characters other than him and it's going to be like a bit of a comedy. They started filming it and I think the creatives were like, we need to go back and film everything over again and make it match the original.

So I'm really, really, really excited about this. I'm going in with the, this is the post, late 22 or 23, I guess, MCU, all the others. Like, this is being filmed fresh. So I'm giving it like, I feel like they've hit the reset button and are going in with the right frame filmed fresh. So I'm giving it like I feel like they've hit the reset button and are going in with the right frame of mind. So I'm excited.

I'm excited about the season one coming and the fact they're already rolling the season to feel like they have something I do get worried when they start setting like again Marvel has reached a point where it's like when they're sitting once a year ultimatums on them. I'm like guys, let's just take our time with it. But again, I don't know who is that. I don't know if there's ultimatum, but they said the goal is one of you. Goal. Okay. Yeah, I'm see, oh, guys, let's just take our time with it. But again, I don't know who is that. I don't know if it's ultimatum, but they said the goal is one of you. The goal, OK.

UMTU new man. They said that about the Spider-Man show as well, your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man, which we'll get your thoughts on in a bit, because Clint actually watched the entire series. The Punisher, who will also appear in Daredevil Born Again, will get his own special presentation, something we've been asking for way more of from Marvel,

and Jon Bernthal will actually co-write it as well. It'll be directed by Reynaldo Marcus Green, who directed King Richard, Oscar nominated winning movie. Really cool. And again, yes, more special presentations. Punisher is a guy who obviously he had two seasons of a Netflix show. He could carry his own series with John Bernthal.

But do we need an entire Punisher series right now? I don't know if you just make a one-off story that's metal as fuck as Punisher Drilling through people's heads and coming for revenge. I'm there for it. Do more of these, please Yes, I do not I love the special presentations again I love I just watched thinking of the HBO special presentation graphics and the song, it was fucking 10 out of 10 for all the olds like me who remember that when it was going live.

But like, yeah, Werewolf by Night shouldn't be our ceiling in terms of characters for the special presentation. Punisher, you could even go higher than Punisher, I'd say. And I'd be fine with it. When there's times where- I've said Ghost Rider, I've said, you know, Silver Surfer. You could take these big characters and do it.

There's so many X-Men you could do this with. Oh, so many X-Men. So many just Marvel characters. Look at the toy chest. Whole bunch of things in the toy chest. Not everything needs to be the epic fight that you're making into a movie or a TV show. It could be a special presentation.

So, okay, good work, Marvel. And as someone that didn't get to like see this whole Punisher run, I'm excited to see what it's going to be. And again, that one, but you got to be gore with the Punisher. You got to be gore with the Punisher. Oh, yeah. And dude, the Punisher has this fight scene breaking out of, not breaking out of prison, but like he kills someone in prison, then has to fight the guards and the prisoners and stuff. And it's one-take hallway fight scene he's

covered in blood by the end his face to toe blood so metal it's so good John Bernthal the Punisher is fucking amazing now something that's not so amazing we learned a little bit more about the post credit scene and Captain America brave new world and it put my mind in an absolute blender clip. We watch it with spoilers post-crediting Brave New World if you haven't seen it. We're going to talk about it briefly but really I don't think you're going to be upset about anything spoiled here. The leader in the raft says to Sam Wilson there's others coming others from different worlds that you don't know about yet and we were all kind of like whatever he knows about fucking other worlds.

They now came out and said that was the Illuminati being referenced. The Illuminati from Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness were originally going to be in this movie in a draft, but then they just left it intentionally vague for a reason in the post credit scene. I never in a million years thought they were referencing the Illuminati. And I guess it's not like a bad thing. I'm not like pissed off that they were referencing the Illuminati. And I guess it's not like a bad thing. I'm not like pissed off that they were referencing the Illuminati. But it reminds me of like the week after Captain America Brave New World came out. They were like, oh yeah, that

character Sam Wilson fights in the first scene was using adamantium knives and he was a character from the com- like you're over explaining things that were not in the movie. You're just like, after the fact you're telling us these things. I kind of like the idea of the Illuminati coming back in Doomsday and Secret Wars and playing a factor, maybe that doom is from their world or Fantastic Four. I don't know. I'm not opposed to that. But just piss me off them coming out and being like,

actually, it was the Illuminati being referenced. No, it fucking was. It was so vague, it was nobody. First of all, when I had heard this news, I thought it was like there until the very end, until like right before they filmed, but it's not like it was an early version of the script, right? Because if it wasn't, I would have been very upset. I would have, I was ready to write a blog on it until I read that it was early in the script. I think Marvel needs to make good with their fans,

because listen, they have had a ton of fucking missteps the last few years. They need to shoot this scene and you scan a picture of your ticket stop or your phone receipt or confirmation and then you get that scene sent to you. That's what I think should happen. Yeah, they didn't make right because that post credit scene as I brought up again last week and fucking it might be the most egregious part of the entire movie when it's all sucked, dude. And as i was making my daredevil video i thought echo had a better post credit scene than this shit when kingpin's on the jet and they're talking about the mayor of new york and he just leans forward it was so simple he doesn't have to say a word but it was like oh shit kingpin's gonna be the mayor of new york like it immediately hits you in the brain for that one

to be like there's others coming It's like well We don't even have anything to be excited about then because we don't know who's coming even if it and again, you don't have to have the Illuminati just like Talking whatever just have a quick glimpse of them even the shadows where you figure out One of them just one Just one just one Just one. Just one. Just one.

And then the only other Marvel news I had, Brad Winderbaum, a big exec at Marvel, said they're actively developing an X-Men movie, though there were TV show rumors. There were rumors that maybe they're doing a TV show X-Men right now. I want to know, for you as an X-Men fan, we've talked about this with Jose

and about how perfect an X-men fan we've talked about this with jose and about how perfect you know an x-men tv series would be but as the x-mens introduced introduction to the mcu if it were to be a 10 out of 10 would you rather be a movie or a series it's going to be a 10 out of 10 you know i'm fine with either i'm honestly fine with either because there is i feel like like because you have so many characters and i don't know how they're going to do if they're going to You know, I'm fine with either. I'm honestly fine with either because there is I feel like it's like Because you have so many characters and I don't know how they're gonna do if they're gonna go into the full-blown Oregon story of different timelines obviously with young Xavier old Xavier And who you're gonna use the team. I'd be fine I feel like to flush it out more in ten episodes instead of two and a half hours

I listen we got to stop with the three hours. We got to stop 245. I can live with it for an X-Men movie or like a fucking fun. We'll not be seeing the brutalists. Yeah. How long is the brutalist? I don't even know. You don't even know, dude.

This is like the one nominated for best picture. They think it might win best picture at three and a half hours with a 15 minute intermission. Those motherfuckers couldn't watch Doom 2 yet they watched that. I know! Crazy. My guy Shalem was going to lose because of that.

That was the other thing. The Oscar voters this week, they're all coming out with quotes. I don't know who these voters are, but they're all setting themselves up for disaster. One of them was like, yeah, I didn't vote for Ray Fiennes because he already won for Schindler's List, so I voted for Adrian Brody. Everyone's like, well, Ray Fiennes didn't win for Schindler's List, and Brody won won for the pianist. So what are we talking about here? But I am of course, pulling for Timmy Shalab. Do you think that these are like NBA Centel accounts that are just fake and they're just making them up? Because maybe or, or it's like to the point when the idiot MLB voters

started like talking and people are like, we have to make your votes public because this is fucking terrible for us. We should make the votes public for the Oscars. They should make your votes public because this is fucking terrible for us We should make the votes public for the Oscars They should make the votes public because the people that are like I can't make it through dune to what are you talking about? You can't make it through your job. You should never vote them exactly crazy Clem you got to watch every single daredevil every single this every single that it's jumps I know this is one of my jobs at Barstool

I have other things I do here those motherfuckers who vote for it they if i was a voter for i guess comic book shows of the year then i would watch daredevil i am not watching it because that's not my only job here those motherfuckers that is their number one job as an oscar voter it's crazy timothy chalamet though did win the sag award which was unexpected so people think maybe he can creep up on Adrian Brody which Brody Brody Brody's right and let me be clear uh uh Chalamet is my guy that's why I'm voting for or rooting for him it sounds like Brody fucking crushes it so I don't it does down like he crushes it like and I also like him in the pianist and shit like I think he's a great actor he's fucking good in Peter Jackson's King Kong even. So yeah, I wouldn't be pissed if he won, but Chalamet's speech at the SAG Awards

was so good. He's like, I'm in the pursuit of greatness like he locked in for that fucking speech. And if he wins at the Oscars, he would be the youngest actor to ever win that award. And it's his last year eligible for being the youngest actor to ever win it. Because Adrian Brody himself won the pianist was just a few months older than Chalamet is now. That's incredible. It's a good narrative going in. Kind of the way we got onto this whole brutalist thing though. What's your thoughts on this X-Men if it was show versus movie?

I go back and forth because I think as a viewer, I would probably like them to flesh the X-Men out more in show form. If we had something the quality of x-men 97 in live-action like even better that would make me Like so happy blown away But at the same time, I think Marvel needs a fucking 10 out of 10 movie right now And like a movie would I think mean more to the widespread casual audience of Marvel is back. And is that so important for the casual fans

to think Marvel is back? No. But am I fucking sick of this narrative that every single project is make or break, the MCU's dead, the MCU's back, the MCU's dead, the MCU's back? We joke about it all the time here, and I love doing the thumbnails.

MCU back. But it's like, it is exhausting when everyone, like people are talking about the Thunderbolts, you think this is it for Marvel? It's like, no, I don't think this is it for Marvel because the Fantastic Four is a few months later and Daredevil born again season two will be next. It's like, at this point, we have so much variety

and I know that's maybe not for the best because it's watered down the material, but I'm just tired of the MCU is dead after every project. It's it's the it's like a different case for like the DUNK contest, the Home Run Derby, the All-Star games, all that kind of shit. It's dead. The NBA in general, the ratings are down. It's dead. It's just it's exhausting at some point. It's like watch don't watch just shut the fuck up about it. They're gonna have the people are gonna have the takes about, it's world culture, all that,

you just have all this other nonsense. At the core of it, if they just put out bangers, everyone will just shut up and just go about their business and be very happy. What about this, Bob? I thought about this as you were saying that. Either we start with a movie, because you said the movie's so important,

knowing that it's gonna roll into a 10 episode show, or vice versa. 10 episode show with a movie as kind of the Avenger Hammer at the end. I would probably prefer it that way, personally. Make it really like, imagine we told you right now, they filmed a fucking Penguin movie to cap off that series. And like, that would be like, what? After we learned about this character so much, we care about them so much already

going into a movie, like with the backstory of a character like Sophia Gigante like something like if you were to have an X-Men character that you wrote as well as her in that show and then you drop a movie on her head. So fucking awesome. Bob how about this? I just thought of this. Oh, I'm tickly thinking about it because I got you see my little comic book there. X-Men one. Yeah. The old Jim Lee. Jim Lee. That's the one that turned me into a comic book fan right there. What if we kind of do what they did in the Bear season three?

And I listen, Bear season three, I know it's like a curse word to some people, but you do the individual episodes where, or was that season two? Anyway, doesn't matter. It's like you get the Charles Xavier episode, you get the Magneto episode, the Wolverine episode, and then by episode eight or so, you have everyone done. Nine, ten, get them together, and then boom,

movie, entire story has been set. Now it needs to be good. It needs to be good. It needs to be great. Listen, those are two very different words you've talked about in the base before. It needs to be at least good, but man, if you can pull that off, hoo mama, and then you're cooking with gas. And then everyone's Marvel can almost become X-Men in people's minds. And then all the other franchises can kind of get their bearings and let X-Men carry it for a year or two.

But man, that could be magic right there. It could be. All right, let me get your thoughts on your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man now after finishing the series. I was surprised you texted me like, oh, I'm watching it, liking it. And just a few days later, you were like, I'm done. So you must have liked it to continue that quickly.

Yep. So full disclosure here. I started it because AJ was sick and I just needed him to watch something that wouldn't ask him to watch YouTube or use his iPad. So dude, I can't do much with you because you're sick and it's cold outside. And I just turned it on turn on and even ask him and he kind of got into it. But I'll be honest, by like episode three, he's like, I'm gonna go do little kid things now. And I was like, too bad for you

asshole, because I'm into this. It was good. It was a good show. I went and I once I knew I was jumping ahead of you. I'm like, I can't I don't even have the Robbie Fox like the Like graded on a curve Review I'm just going in by myself and I'll tell you it's cool It's it's him in this universe and this is something that I realized the other Marvel properties need to do more of and it's done

They don't bash you over the head with by any means but I think some of the other properties need to do it They have you know, kids like Dr. Strange pops in, you know, they're not going to do more of and it's they don't bash you over the head with by any means but I think some of the other properties need to do it. They have you know, casually, Doctor Strange pops in, you know, Daredevil shows up for a couple of episodes

like a scene or two, not not the entire episode. Yeah. Why are we not doing that more? It happens in the comic books and so some of these characters, they're just relying on these characters to carry their whole shows and franchises by

themselves. Are you crazy? And the Spider-Man, he's one guy who could be like, listen, I'm just gonna roll. I'm gonna roll the typical villains out there. And it's like, you're not even getting like all the A plus villains. I don't want to spoil the show because there's some twists. And it's a lot of people have compared it to almost like a what if where it changes a little couple of the rules of the franchise change. And it's like, sweet. Like I can get down with that. It's just a little one-off animation. And I do think that like DC might do this

and Marvel can do this. Where not everything has to be combined and it's all part of one cinematic universe and all the universes are together. I don't know, man. I just had a good ass time and I would be like, I need like a half hour to burn. What could I do?

I'm like, let me throw on a Spider-Man and the characters, they're good. They give you reasons for why villains are villains. They give you reasons for why they do what they do so you're not just feeling. They have like really good people who are mixed up in bad spots. And I don't even know some of these,

I'm not a big Spider-Man guy. So the Scorpion was in, I didn't know, he was a big deal. You didn't know Scorpion? I didn't know Scorpion very much and they made it very New York City very realistic to New York yeah so that was cool I don't know who the hell Tombstone is you learned about tombstones dude they're great to tombstone and scorpion like especially in the video games are great in the cartoon scorpion they teased in the post-credit scene of homecoming he's like one of the prisoners

that Michael Keaton talks to, but they like haven't followed up on that. I think Sony probably made him tease that. And they were like, we're gonna do a scorpion movie where he gets bit by radioactive scorpion one day. No, that didn't happen. But overall, how would you grade it on the ball scale? Ball scale, I'm gonna say. Season one.

375, which is good. Pretty good for an animated show, Yeah, especially not like an adult animated show like invincible which we're about to get into but pretty good score. I thought that the again the animation like I didn't love it but it's like it's perfectly fine for what it is. Did you get used to it more as it went along? Do you feel like yes. Oh definitely definitely and the way that they like they kind of own it and you're like, oh, they're doing a good job with what they have. And then it's like, I don't know if it's like 25, I think it's usually 25 to 35 minutes. Like, I think that is the sweet spot. I think we lost our ways

with these hour long shows. And I think having it there is absolutely perfect. And I really do like recommend everyone just give like the first episode a shot. And I do think it'll grow on you. The Osbournes are there. You have a you have Aunt May. I think the Uncle Ben you discussed this on a previous episode. Uncle Ben's already dead. So we don't have to watch him die yet again.

And there are some good twists and I believe they we talked about last week, right? That there's already been season two has been green lit. Yeah, yeah. So it'll be out next year. That's the goal again. It's like goals, they're setting goals. Yeah, okay. Like if their goal is one Spider-Man a year,

one Daredevil a year, it's like, well, then at some point it's gonna be one X-Men a year. We don't need to hit those goals, Marvel. I'm just letting you know as fans. An X-Men they already said is 2026, which people are like, oh, killing all momentum. That guy Rob Liefeld who Jose hates, the Deadpool guy is like are like, oh, killing all momentum. That guy, Rob Liefeld, who Jose hates the Deadpool guys like Marles, dad, kill it all. He's going in on every step now. Yeah.

But yeah, there's your recommendation for your friendly neighborhood, Spider-Man. And now let's talk about invincible episode six, which dropped yesterday. I thought a very good, more straightforward episode of invincible. It's good to get these thrown in there every now and then not dealing with Viltramites and the entire Guardians and it's just kind of a grounded superhero story. Aaron Paul's characters thrown into the mix. He's looking for

revenge over Mark, Mark, because the Omni-Man fight and whatnot. They do the memorial thing. You said they do a good job of making your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man look like New York. My big takeaway from this episode, one of them, was they did such a good job of making a city feel like a city. You know what I mean? Like, it really looks like it feels like the memorial, the way people hacked in it, the way the cars are driving in it. It's like, this is really good. I thought it was a really good one. Another big takeaway was the title sequence, which they nail a lot.

I loved him this one when he's yelling, I want invincible and I want invincible. And this is because of invincible. It was great. That was one of my big takeaways was that was one of my highlights of the episode. Okay, so I'm trying to phrase this correctly. So Aaron Paul's character, the backstory and the way they set that all up and it starts with them

and there's this happy little you know family and then Obviously all the tragedy strikes and then his whole reason for revenge. I love the way they set that up I thought that was so fucking cool and it kind of makes you realize like how these Superheroes can be super villains in some people's eyes for stuff that they didn't even know they did. Yeah, I just didn't love the character himself. I don't know what it was. But it's like and I also understood like he's super powerful and his it's kind of like Black Panther suit. Right. The more you hit him. Yes the tragic ending I thought was like a really well done That was very smart, but basically everything between the orchestra and the ending I just like he didn't grab me as much as I thought he was going to for someone who had such a good deep story And Aaron Paul's voice just sounded a little weird. Am I wrong to say that?

I almost felt like Aaron Paul was trying to not sound like Aaron Paul. Yes Yeah, I almost thought I felt like when he's yelling too I was like he's trying not to sound like Aaron Paul. Yes, yes. I almost thought I felt like when he's yelling too I was like he's trying not to sound like Jesse Pinkman right now Which like I I thought the exact same thing and I think that's actually a good take because his origin was amazing with the niece and the sister and stuff and I even liked when he's like trying to build himself up build up the courage of the top of the building like in the beginning It seems like he could just make the powers with his hands or whatever He tells his niece and then he's like I need to jump off a fucking building right now

Like all of that was interesting from there. He's an obstacle for Mark and Eve and kind of a test of Restraint because you can't hit him and I really really appreciated how Eve took I don't know a minute to download that information into her brain and be like, yeah, I know I can't hit you, you fucking idiot. You're getting stronger. And she just shuts him down right away. It was like so refreshing to be like, all right, yeah, this is an established superhero who we've known for three seasons now going up against someone who's trying to be a superhero for the first day. It's not going to be a fight. Yeah. And that's how it would be. It would be if you try to play an NBA player, he would do things, be like, I didn't even know you could steal a ball from me that way. Right?

It's just different levels of stuff. There was like three different times where, I guess it makes sense now, because apparently Aaron Paul was trying not to sound like Jesse Pinkman. I thought he was going to say, because Mark just, you know, he could never pin down invincible.

I thought he was going to say, you can't keep getting away with this. I thought we were going to get the infamous line. I was like waiting for three different times during that episode. invincible. There's a can't keep getting away with this. The infamous line I was like waiting for three different that would have been good. That episode. I like the shapeshift stuff too. And he shows up at first he wants Mark and then shapeshift shows up. He fucking destroys him or whatever. Nobody knows who shapeshift is. And then the cop is like, he just killed a one of the Guardians

That was great Other stuff from the episode stuff with like the girl that turns into the monster and how the yeah, Amanda was it Rudy like cures Yes, her de-aging thing. Yeah, kind of a like a wholesome style scene She's really happy about that isn't that I I do think the oh shit moment was the little post credits that they did where you realize the person spying on mark is I don't know his name to do with the big brain that travel I know better the names to but the mark of Earth is coming Oh the mark of Earth is coming and I don't I don't I cannot fathom how he has an absolute Snowballs chance in hell against that crew. So yeah, it's pretty fucking incredible Maybe Oliver being like kind of the version of him because he seems like he's gonna be the evil one

I've also think I'm turning evil which with Aaron Paul's character, but just take him into space Space that's only evil things are. Mark is like, let me reason with you. I don't wanna hurt you. You're like fucking suffocate him. Jump into his ass. In the vacuum of space. Send him into a black hole.

The only other thing I had was Paul being the father who stepped up and just being so worried and nervous around the superheroes. He's like, if we're gonna teleport, I don't know if I'm ready for that. They're like, no, don't worry worried and nervous around the superheroes. He's like, if we're going to teleport, I don't know if I'm ready for that. They're like, no, don't worry. We're taking the car. It's fucking I'm flying the car. I thought that was awesome. Reverse the trope. Good episode though. Not my favorite of the season or anything but another one where

the whole time I was there for it. I'm excited for the future of this season. So we have how many episodes left? I actually don't know. It's a good question. It feels like it's ramping up. Like I would be surprised if it's eight or ten. So let's see right here. I'm on season three. So we have two more left. It's eight. Okay. Yeah. That doesn't shock me. I feel like, yeah, we're going to have some, um, we're going to have some shit coming up here.

This one got a 9.1 on IMTDB. I'm surprised it's that high. This episode? Yes. Next one. Alright, spoilers for everyone who doesn't want to live. Just five seconds. Just cover yours. The next episode, the description is, Earth's greatest heroes join forces to fight an unimaginable threat. I feel like that's a bunch of marks coming the fuck shit up. It's gotta be a bunch of marks right? ask me. so I'm excited about seven and eight. I'm very excited about and this is something they teased like last season

right and it just never came to fruition and I think that's kind of part of the reason I think we felt like that along with the gap. I feel like we are cooking with gas and I think there's a reason why the comic readers are like guys You don't know what you're in for buckle the fuck up. I Can't wait and I can't wait for daredevil born again on Tuesday two episode premiere Don't forget to check out the everything you need to know before daredevil born again video on the channel or on my Twitter wherever You want to watch it? Just share it do me a favor. Give it a little thumbs up Do whatever you can to help out When will that be up Bob? When will that be up? It'll be up at 3 p.m. On Friday

So the odds are if you're listening to the podcast it's up unless you're listening to the podcast like the second it released Which if you are appreciate you that's like real day one shit, but the odds are it's on the channel now. Okay, cool So check it out there Again thumbs up hit some hit some comments into let's try It's gonna to your buddy You know if you know somebody that's gonna be watching the series just send them over the link and be like hey check this out Build the hype up a little bit. I tried to build the hype a little bit I tried to be a funny a little bit, you know, I'm trying

Do we got a hashtag to end the episode with this week? It's not come trees. We're not doing come trees. We're not doing come trees. You can't do maybe no taika allowed. No taika is allowed. I like that. No taika is allowed.

All right. We will talk to you next week. I assume maybe an earlier episode next week to recap Daredevil. Maybe we'll do one on Wednesday. Does that work? Yeah. If it comes out Tuesday. Yeah. Yeah. Tuesday right until yeah. So let's roll with that. Daredevil. Maybe we'll do one on Wednesday. Does that work? Yeah, if it comes out Tuesday?

Yeah. Yeah, Tuesday right until, yeah, so let's roll with that. We'll try to get it fresh on Wednesday and based on the reviews, we're going to be dying to talk about it. I can't wait. See you then.