My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 416 - DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN EPISODE 3/INVINCIBLE SEASON 3 FINALE
Episode Date: March 14, 2025Robbie and Clem discuss 'Daredevil: Born Again' Episode 3 as well as the Season 3 finale of 'Invincible' - plus Robbie's visit to the 'Daredevil' Season 2 set and 'Avengers: Doomsday/Secret Wars' rumo...rs! ****************************************  My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike!  Subscribe on Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/MyMomsBasementWithRobbieFox Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement
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Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement and another Daredevil born-again slash invincible
Penultimate Finale recap edition of My Mom's Basement. A lot on the docket today, we've got
a lot to cover. Clem, how we doing? Penultimate Finale's Marvel Conference.
Clem, how we doing? Pedal to bits, finales, Marvel We have to dare devils. Yeah, it's so good. I love what when SNL was cooking man
It good fucking well we kids still stay still stay cook right cuz AJ the other day
He goes man. I cooked in that game of fortnight, and I'm like
You're learning the language now from his stupid YouTube's is he gonna start talking to the chat that like isn't even there
Is he gonna be like chat clip that?
brother chat subscribe
Like button I hear it all already in the vernacular these kids are fucking broken already oh god that's funny I mean let
let's get our vernacular out of the way a little basement keeping marvel rival streams every Tuesday at 4pm on this channel.
I'm also working in now WWE 2K 25 streams.
I did my first one Wednesday at four this past week.
You could go back watch that on the channel now.
I'm gonna be doing another one Wednesday at four this week.
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So if there's, you know, an argument in the office, settle it in the ring or we could
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Like whatever you want to do Barstool related, the game makes capable.
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the peak of our mighty generation in college with my roommates was we would
Set lines from adding games and then watch the simulation take place and it's like and it would be
You know all the girls would be in the kitchen talking and then all the guys be watching a fake football game in the middle
Of March because we're fucking yeah All the girls would be in the kitchen talking and then all the guys be watching a fake football game in the middle of March
Because we're fucking yeah
Is only gotten better like at this point the WWE simulation you feel like you're watching a match. That's awesome
It's so good the reversals that taunts everything about it now is my guy Jalen in the game
You said that there was rumors that there's NBA players. Is it confirmed? There's rumors. So it's DLC still to be announced.
I think it's gonna be like, yeah, Jalen.
I mean, at this point, maybe Tyrese Halliburton
with his friggin' suck it.
You know, he hit the game winning shot in the DX shoes
and he loves it.
Maybe him, maybe the undercantor, I said,
because Paul Heyman loves him.
But he's not as big a player nowadays, is he?
No, he's a big political figure, oddly enough.
So, yeah. I don't know if you would even put
him in the game at this point, but Paul Heyman loves him. And
Paul Heyman is a big part of 2k 25. I think there was another
NBA player that was in the mix. I can't remember who it was,
but Halliburton Brunson had like the after the playoff series
had like the meeting in the ring and it was a big deal. And
Jalen looked at his,
Oh, you know what was, there's the asshole that Trey Young.
Yes, Trey Young.
Maybe him because he went in the ring at SmackDown 2 and like shit on the Knicks.
That sounds, Trey Young's entire career is based on one good playoff series against the
Knicks.
So that would check out Halliburton kind of, you know, a little bit of the same thing with
him.
But the DX shoes, Triple H, I saw retweeted it. So
that feels like it's a lock, like they are already in bed together for lack of a better word.
Yeah. And the only other thing we got to shout out is we hosted another really fun rundown this
week. We've kind of become like a go-to rundown crew. Shout out, Napin booking us, but us and
Large and Trent, a surprise guest, Trent.
And I just think it's a fun rundown.
If you're a fan of The Basement,
it's like another 30, 40 minutes
that's kind of like The Basement
talking about different topics.
I'm seeing, we gotta get, maybe we'll get Large down here
for like a Daredevil recap or something like that
because he's watching it live.
And I think he gives different perspectives
on a lot of stuff, obviously, because he's old.
He's an old man
I go pop up
The thumbnail did you see the thumbnail that you I'm about to pull it up
I was way ahead of you because I didn't see it until this morning
I saw your tweet and oh my god it cracked me up
You said this thumbnail looks like it's the life progression of a person and look at the four of us there if you're watching
On YouTube or any video platform you could see it
It really does.
And it helps that me and Trent are wearing hats, you know,
to, you can't really see our hair.
It really looks like start of Barstool tenure,
end of Barstool tenure.
Yep.
It's like you guys have the hats to hide the hairline
going back a little bit.
We're all wearing glasses, all smiling, happy fellas, right?
And then you all pop out.
It was, it was a good vibes rundown.
I mean, Trent did shit on Marvel a little bit spoilers for the rundown but go
watch it it was fun it was a good time it's a good time the good mood crew as
I call us so before we get into daredevil born again episode 3 and
invincible the penultimate in the finale I also want to say I visited the set of
daredevil born again season 2 this week and I say that like oh I visited the set of Daredevil born again season two this week.
And I say that like, Oh, I had a set visit.
Like, Oh yeah, they invited me to take notes as a journalist.
No, no, no, that's not how it worked.
I saw someone posts, Oh my God, they're filming Daredevil in Brooklyn right now.
And I zoomed in on these street signs.
And I was like, I think that says like North 13th.
So I go on Google maps and I go to where it was because that was right by the water to I felt like I was doing
detective work. I felt like I was one of those geoguessor guys
that could see like a McDonald's rapper and be like, I know your
address. So I find out where they are. I head over to
Brooklyn. It was right in Williamsburg. It was like right
on the water. I don't even know how to describe it because I'm
not that familiar with Brooklyn and Williamsburg. But it was a
courtyard scene where they have like a square set up and
A bunch of polls. I'll actually post some pictures that I took maybe some videos in the podcast
I didn't want to post all of them on Twitter because I thought Feige might come for me
So they have big like light poles up and there's signs from them that say mayor Fisk
New York is born again. So I was like, oh shit
They're gonna work the born again title
into his campaign slogan somehow.
I hope, by the way, none of what I'm about to say is like a huge spoiler for the show.
I think everything that I saw, they were OK with filming in public, you know,
because it's not like it's giving a lot away.
So I see all the mayor Fisk signs and I have these headphones on
and I'm just walking towards the set. I'm walking closer and closer. I see catering. I see all the Mayor Fisk signs, and I have these headphones on, and I'm just walking towards the set.
I'm walking closer and closer.
I see catering, I see trucks, I see an armored truck,
like a black armored van
that looks like it's straight out of the military.
I'm like, oh shit, this is for sure the set I'm on right here.
You see a guy that's Miles Morales.
Oh shoot, I was supposed to spoil that, sorry guys.
Yeah, I did see, yeah, full Spider-Man suit.
You did text me, that was a great idea.
You were like, you need to make up a scoop while you're there. Just say you've seen someone that hasn't debuted
yet. But I start walking and I hear this guy calling me being like, Hey, sir, just so you
know, they're filming over there. And I was just like, I'm gonna act like crazy. It's just not
crazy. But I'm gonna act like a casual tourist, who I'm just like, I'm just walking, listening to
my music on a walk. Oh, what's this?
A Hollywood production? I'm so unfamiliar. Now, that being said, I had a Daredevil comic book in
my hand during this. I was like, what if I see someone maybe I could get it signed. And this was
just the book that was in my bag. Like it's not born again. It's not anything that relates to the
series necessarily. It's just Frank Miller's like recounting of the origin. It is a classic. It's
one of the more classic Daredevil comics. But I'm walking over there, then I put the comic in
my shirt, then I look even more shady, like walking with it
tucked in my arm and shit. But I realized there's actual tourists
that are confused and just interested on what's going on
standing across the street. And I'm like, Oh, if they're
standing across the street, I'm allowed to stand across the
street. Like they're not roping anything off. They're not telling people they can't stand there.
So I'm like, all right, I'm gonna stick around,
see what they're filming.
And it was really cool because they had the armored truck.
They would have it come around the block a few times.
They would yell, action.
All the extras would go from standing still to moving.
It was like you were watching a simulation.
And it was almost Truman show like,
like there was a guy with flowers.
There was a guy hula hooping.
There was a guy jogging.
Like it was very crazy to watch this happen.
And they did probably five or six takes before I realized
what was in the foreground of the shot.
I'm watching all the background actors in the armored truck.
It was Bibi Yurik, the actual actress that plays Bibi Yurik.
I think her name is Jenea Walton, maybe Jenea Walton.
She's standing there in like a green coat, given one of her news reports
that cuts up the show.
One of the news reports that we like heavily praised last week
on the show.
We were like that was a really cool way of you know, breaking
it up giving us a different style giving us a vibe of the
city. So like oh shit, this is kind of cool.
And I knew in my mind at that point like oh, I'm not going
to get anything spoiled which I was kind of happy about.
I didn't want to see like daredevil execute the Punisher
in the street or anything like that. Like I would like to see those characters, but I don't want to see like daredevil execute the Punisher in the street or anything like that
Like I would like to see those characters, but I don't want to give anything away for myself
So I wait until they're done with like five or six takes and I notice
She's walking across the street towards me because hair and makeup is like ten feet to my left
So as she starts walking towards me and it's she's wrapped. I was trying to be respectful. I wasn't getting in anyone's way
I wasn't trying to get in the background of a shot like with my three Connor son back
in the day or anything like that. I just like kind of held up the comic and gave the universal
like hey can I have your autograph and she walked right over to me and I was like hey
would you mind signing this she almost seemed taken aback that I was asking for her autograph
and she was like oh I don't want to like ruin the cover where do you want me to sign it
and I was like you're not gonna ruin the cover. Where do you want me to sign it? And I was
like, you're not gonna ruin the cover, you're gonna make it
cooler. And I talked to her for maybe 90 seconds, two minutes. I
just said, Hey, I think you were great in the first two episodes.
The way they cut it up, you know, it was great. Basically,
everything we said on the podcast, I relate to her. She
seemed very appreciative. And she was like, Yeah, we kind of
didn't know how it was gonna work. But I'm glad people have
been digging it. And check that that out the first and I'm not calling it the only the first signature on the front of
this book I think maybe if I just stick around the city long enough this thing's going to be
covered with the Daredevil Born Again cast signatures and I'm not a big autograph guy
either but I just thought that was cool. That would be sweet if we could fill up that book just by
random visits to the set. Random quotes.
Yeah.
Quotes, right?
Random visits to the set.
Did you hear that?
And I don't want to say, oh, everyone should storm the set whenever you find out where
it is and ask for autographs.
If you're going to do this, and it's fine to do this, they film in New York City, it's
out in the public, definitely wait until they wrap to even be like, hey, would you, the
actors don't owe you an autograph or a picture or anything like that. I wish you had told her she was BB great just to see if she's a Star
Wars fan as well. The infamous Bob Fox line from Orlando once upon a time. No, I'm engaged.
No one would be BB great line except Lady Fox from now on. Maybe Faith, maybe Faith. Yeah,
Faith will definitely get it. Yeah. But yeah, it was fun. It was cool to see the set. I've
already bookmarked where they're filming
like on Wednesday of this week.
I saw signs go up and I was like, all right,
maybe I'll go if I'm free.
It's not like I'm gonna like go out of my way,
but I was already in the city like 20 minutes away
with a Daredevil comic in hand.
I was like, all right, this is fate.
I gotta go.
This is Bob's origin story of how he became
a Daredevil TV show groupie.
But maybe I'm there enough and they realize like, oh, he's not like an actual crazy person.
I'm not trying to disrupt anything.
Maybe they'll be like, hey, hop in the background of a shot.
Just walk in the background.
That's my dream.
That's like my oh, just like be the guy with the flowers.
Here's the thing.
Flowers walk in the background.
Whatever gets us in the Secret Wars.
Bob, we've thought we've planted some seeds to get us in these movies
Nothing has even started to bloom. We don't even see like green in the soil and we're watering it
We're doing whatever we can speaking of secret wars. How about the Russo's coming out and being like, yeah
We're not concerned about that concept art. None of its arse. It was all bullshit, which
Bullshit on their bullshit. I think I'm calling bullshit on their bullshit.
It looks exactly like all Marvel concept art looks.
And I get that.
Sure, there are artists good enough to replicate that,
but they were like some animations for Fantastic Four
that leaked as well.
So it's like, I don't know, unless they're saying none
of that was ours.
It's all Fantastic Four's.
Like maybe they were going to show Doom
in a post credit scene of that. I, it's all Fantastic Four's, like maybe they were gonna show Doom in a post-credit scene of that.
I don't think this was not Marvel concept art.
If the thought was by the artist to put it on the Instagram, take it off immediately,
and then spawning all this like, oh my god, it was taken off, so that's how it must be
real, kudos.
Yeah.
Kudos to that person.
True.
That couch thing still makes no fucking sense to me
the couch thing yeah there's a few things like there were some young avengers type things
that all like i don't think a concept art artist would be like oh like it just made so much marvel
sense where i was like yeah that's something marvel would put in the movie not even necessarily
something a concept artist would be like, wouldn't people
love that? I don't know. I think it was real. I definitely think it was real.
They also said bullshit.
They also said something very basement important.
They talked about in an interview with the Hollywood reporter,
these baseball cards that they were given for infinity war and end game.
They were given baseball cards that on the back, on the front they had an actor and who
they're playing.
On the back they had how many movies are left on their contract and how expensive they are.
I remember this like making the rounds back in the day.
Didn't get too much attention.
This morning it's getting more attention because they gave them the cards again for Secret
Wars and Doomsday.
So all the news sites are like circulating the baseball cards are back but a very important wrinkle this time they said the cards are
now like magnetized they have magnets on the back so they could put them on a board is
that a white board white boards are magnetic I think I think you're gonna I think so yeah
they definitely are because I had him in school with the expo markers
He needed him. Yeah
Clem I think they got that whiteboard. I they fucking need it. I don't think we need
I don't think there was a whiteboard for like the last five years
We need the whiteboard back Russo's wield it back into the building
They took it out when they when they finished endgame they were like, this is our our whiteboard. We're taking it. We paid for it. And as soon as
they got rehired, they were like, let's push this back in there. Fans of the wire. No,
there's a cork cork board they use in the wire to like track all the criminals and stuff.
And when the cork boards not there or the the major crimes unit is not together, shit's
going crazy in Baltimore. Not good stuff. Whiteboards back in cork boards back in we're back on track folks the
the meat
The the fight trust a foggy sign still has that little why did it why did it have the little thing or a good?
Yeah, there was a flicker with it recently. There was something you did. Well, I think it was cuz Captain America was aggressively mid
That's right. Maybe we're like, maybe it's a little brighter though.
Like it's a little bit brighter than like,
even though it is still a flicker here and there.
It may be the flicker is just like,
it didn't flicker for a full day.
And we're like, oh, maybe it's getting better.
Telling me, I'm telling you,
you cannot do end game or infinity war
without a whiteboard.
There's just no humanly way it's possible.
And I didn't tell you- You't everything to connect storylines characters stones
Yeah before all this when you went to daredevil
I said if by some outside chances Kevin Feige is actually there
I need you to ask him about the whiteboard and this goes to all the basement boys and girls listening and watching if yeah ever
See Kevin Feige
Unlimited club points for life for me if you could ask him if he had a whiteboard.
Cause I need to know, I mean, I know the answer.
I just need confirmation of my statement.
Let's hear about it.
Just the way I think you could go about it.
If you see Kevin Feige in person, be like,
hey, can I ask you something?
When you're planning the whole timeline,
when you're planning Marvel,
do you plan it all out like on a whiteboard
or something like that?
Just say that.
And that'll be disarming.
You just sound like a curious, interested fan.
And as soon as he says yes, be like, I got it.
I knew it.
Go nuts.
Go absolutely, no, don't go insane.
Record it.
Record it all.
But I did say to you, when you said,
ask Kevin Feige about the whiteboard,
I said, you'll read like TMZ headline later.
Crazed fan dragged off Daredevil set screaming,
where is it, Kevin?
Listen, I'll do the heavy lifting in terms of, all right, did you write all the power
stone stuff in purple?
And did you write all the green stones?
Oh, they better be the corresponding colors for the stone.
And then what color were?
Yeah, but then the characters have to have a color too.
So listen, I'll handle the heavy lifting.
You guys just need to let me know that it actually did exist confirm my theory
That is a hundred percent true and we'll go from there
All right, let's get into daredevil born again. I was gonna say season four. It's that season one. It's weird
It's daredevil season four, but like all right daredevil born again episode three. We're starting from fresh again
The numbers in nerd realm are always fucked. This could be like episode 42 or it could be episode three,
depending on how you look at it.
Another episode focused on the White Tiger's character,
Hector Ayala, I believe it was, Ayala?
Ayala, Ayala.
Ayala, played by Kimar De Los Reyes,
who did a fantastic job as him.
Again, he passed away before this was
able to come out he was battling cancer while filming it's crazy when you hear stories like that
so crazy and they did a really spoilers of course for the whole episode spoilers
spoilers spoilers spoilers we're getting into daredevil as we do every week spoilers they did
a really good job i I thought, of,
and I don't know if this was always going to be the case or it was how it was intended when he gives this speech about the frogs and Paradise kind at the beginning. During the credits,
they have that frog ribbit. That was such a nice touch that almost felt meta, almost felt like they
were talking not only about Hector, but about the character
or the actor himself who played him.
Yeah, very well done.
This whole episode, man, it had me on the edge of my,
and like, I'm gonna go, I wrote some stuff down
for the end of the episode, but this entire episode,
another superhero episode without the superhero in it yeah and i mean really no
action there was like the quick silence of the lambs type switch out scene or you think maybe
the bottom and they don't but like that was the only even spec of action in this episode and i
wasn't missing it i i was enthralled by the courtroom drama by the performance of charlie
cox holy shit this guy's awesome Charlie Cox fucking rules
I mean, yeah, I I wish I bought some charl I should have bought Charlie Cox stock after
He was in spider-man because I like the guy from I was like this guy this guy's legit and then in in in
She-holk I was like I've really like instantly loved the guy charm the pants off of me now
I understand why he's getting a smoke show every fucking episode and now it's like he's just
If the fight scene wasn't so good
I'd say the fights like daredevils been in the worst parts of the show so far
But it's not true because it was a good fight scene, but yeah, he is like crazy how so shout out to everyone
I'm sure the people who watched the original show were like yeah,, you fucking ass. What we're telling you guys is for years.
I know, definitely.
They're like, we were telling you this in 2015.
Hey, listen, we needed this show to come on Disney Plus
and give us a reason to have this.
They were Disney shills, you know?
We're slaves of the mouse.
You guys know this.
A few notes I had just about his performance
and my favorite things he did.
The scene in the bathroom with the cop was awesome
Awesome and the crooked cop too. Like he's a really good actor. He's a great villain. I have a theory
I think that guy's a real-life crooked cop
I think he's like took a cop out of jail that had got caught with dirt dirty hands because that dude is way too fucking
Convincing as a dirty cop like kind of a side character. Like I don't think he's gonna be in the entire season
He might be I mean, maybe he will be but I don't think he's gonna be in the entire season he might be I mean
Maybe he will be but I don't know he's great the district attorney who's representing him is great
Also kind of a like conniving snivelly like you're like god fucking damn it
You got to get one over on this guy Matt and I love my favorite line of the entire episode
I know what it is. I know what it is. I'll take the stand Matt's like I've heard you have a black eye
I hope everything is okay. That was well, chef's kiss. That was
so good. The cure for black eyes, faster hands. Yeah. Great
line. I saw that I go, Bob's gonna love that one. That's
that's good. And all of the little things he says in court
that like we know when he's talking about like, there would
never be a vigilante who fights it with a disadvantage with one arm tied behind his back. It's like, well, we know and he's talking about like, there would never be a vigilante who fights with a disadvantage with one
arm tied behind his back. It's like, well, we know you do.
It's all the like the cheap nerdy stuff. It's like the the nerd
version of like right here in New York City and the crowd cheers.
What it's like it works every time works every time.
It's incredible. I the the court scenes.
They really get you go and
honestly when that verdict was coming out I didn't know where we were going it
was like I was watching a man really potentially like going away for life I
had no clue which way was going they had like the fucking extra pause there and
you're just I and I you don't even did I have closed captioning on cuz I'm a I'm
old and I I'm not as I don't rely as much on the
captioning as I did during Thrones we have a lot of accents and heavy heavy
weird westerosi shit that doesn't make any sense unless you're reading but I
had to cover the captions up in this one I didn't want to see not guilty or guilty
on the bottom I like that that that's like a true enthralled in the show move
like I don't even want a second of spoilers yeah
Bob by the way also I go ahead yeah I love the word enthralled and I I think I said
a an incorrect word a couple times on podfathers back in the day I think hashtag enthralled is
what we're going with I've been saying a lot I was enthrhralled. No, I am too! And I love the word and I think it's the correct word for daredevil.
Enthralldevil? Is that maybe the hashtag for the episode?
Because I am enthralled by it and it's one of my favorite words and I have another word that I sometimes switch with it.
And I am saying, I'm Tony Soprano where I say the wrong word and I just sound like an idiot.
What's the other word? Enchonopist?
I don't...maybe...it might be.
I think it might be.
Large always be like, oh that's the wrong word.
Where do you stand on courtroom dramas in general?
Because I feel like watching this episode, I consciously thought during it like,
do I like courtroom dramas? Like I think I might like courtroom dramas.
Like I've never been a fan of necessarily shows that do them.
Like I've never been a die-hard like, I don't even know what shows I could bring up.
Boston Legal.
That's the only one I was going to say because I'm like, what is a legal show?
I'm like, well, Boston Legal.
Because Ali McBeal?
Was that a...
Ali McBeal, I believe, is one.
You never watched that?
I know we brought that up for she hulk I don't dislike the courtroom scenes in the wire or
SvU but though I kept thinking back like that like law and order
I did the direct podcast the MCU direct podcast this week, and I brought up two ridiculous examples
But I was like courtroom scene in Ted to is great
And of course the ending of Legally Blonde is fantastic
And it was maybe not helping my nerd cred, but listen I grew up with an older sister
I watched Legally Blonde thanks to her a lot. It's got a good courtroom scene in it
So this episode kind of made me think like I just watched juror number two new Clint Eastwood movie
It was fucking good. Nicholas Holt was good in it
It's like I think I like courtroom dramas one of my favorite movies of all time is my cousin Vinny, which is a courtroom
comedy, so good.
So fantastic.
But this is the thing.
There's nothing in the world.
I'd want to do the least than be a lawyer.
You could give me infinity dollars.
I'd say no thing.
I, I've talked about this in the blogs, maybe some podcasts.
When I was in fifth grade, we were in a thing called tag.
It was like talented and gifted. I think they take some kids adding like do stuff while the other kids
were having lunch. And one day we did like a mock court and it was like, did Humpty Dumpty get thrown
off the wall by his men? And that's when I realized it's not what happened. It's what you can prove.
And I said, fuck this. This is a bunch of bullshit. It's about who can bullshit the most and whatever.
I said, I don't have the brain for that
I'm just gonna you know cover the story and make some fart jokes, which is how I ended up with this career, right?
So I do love everything about the court stuff except for if I actually had to do it
So yeah, maybe we're maybe we're drama guy. Hey, listen
Hit the comments hit the chat hit the fucking hit our replies on Twitter
You guys have any good legal dramas for us to check out
I mean, I know like 12 angry men probably like boston legal right boston not boston legal
No, that's we're not watching that and we and we know that exists if you guys have movies or shows that you think we would love
I'm down. I'm yeah, give us some recommendations. We're into courtroom dramas. We're gonna be like the I mean another Ted to reference We're gonna be like Ted and Johnny when they're like objection sustained overruled
Saying the words that are fun. I will say this
I think the she hulk stuff got a little silly in the court
There were some parts of the court I liked and then there were some starts
I'm like, maybe it was like the fucking legal jerk hard on me. I was like what the fuck are we doing?
This was no no silliness and dare to get in this week. I mean, even him
pulling out the fucking white tiger mask as a last resort,
because his witness turned against him. And by the way, I
had my note for that we're so back someone in court being
gotten to write as Matt has them pinned down. Like there are
multiple examples in the original series of being like,
all right, this case is fucking wrapped up.
We've got the witness ready to confess.
And it's like, he gets on the stand and you find out Kingpins in his pocket
already, or he confesses and Kingpins in the pocket of the jury.
So the jury don't care.
It's like so many, you're right at the finish line.
And then you take two, three steps back.
This was such a daredevil moment.
Also speaking of Fisk this kind of a tough
episode for him again he gets no respect he's gonna start talking I get no
respect Vanessa it's crazy who the fuck is Paul he's still she's still bringing
him up the or Adam not Paul Adam Paul I'm getting ahead of there. And Vanessa shows him zero respect in the mob game as well.
He's gotten like no influence. She's paying off, keeping the peace.
He's trying to have chaos going. He's going on the news talking about cop killers, vigilantes being cop killers.
Crazy shit for Kingpin. Not a great episode for him though.
I mean, I think we're building up to something for him.
My guy too. He's going low carb. He's eating good. He has to have a little more anger with
him. I don't know. You have those carb fucking feelings. It's going to come. It's coming
boy. It's going to be Gorgon and he's going to be fucking exploded. I'm kind of scared.
I feel like we have a, this is a sixth grade history term right here about world war one.
We have a powder cake and that powder cake is the mayor of New York City right now.
He's gonna explode and I'm kind of scared of seeing what's gonna happen.
Also they've mentioned Red Hook three times now in the series including the first mention of it
being from Foggy in episode one where he's like yeah I had a client tied up in Red Hook
that's why I had to stash him. I don't know what's going on in Red Hook, but Kingpin's been asking for
updates. Something shady was happening with Foggy that we
still haven't even heard what that was all about in the first
place. Why were they coming after him? Why were they
targeting him? Whatever something is going to explode
in Red Hook. We think there's a powder keg in Red Hook as well
right now. Let's just put powder kegs everywhere. Yeah, powder kegs there as well.
It's like the dark night.
There's powder kegs everywhere and you gotta decide which one you're going to.
Alright, so we have obviously all the lights in the basement.
In Daredevil we're doing the powder keg map.
Gracie Mansion where the mayor lives.
Powder keg.
Red hook.
Powder keg.
Obviously wherever season two's being filmed there's something brewing there at some point
you would think. Yup. So I mean the police station, powder keg.
Powder keg. Speaking of Red Hook, what wrestler hails from Red Hook at least
according to the introductions? Do you know this? You know what? I do not know this.
I'm pretty sure it's my boy, the Taz Mission. Taz was from Red Hook. Oh, was I? I
would totally believe that. Is Red Hook Queens? Is that technically Queens? No,
Brooklyn. I thought he was a Queens guy for some reason. Maybe I'm completely wrong about that. I
Would be I would be kind of piss if oh, yeah, pull down Red Hook section of Brooklyn here it is
Oh, there you go. What a pull from Clem has five nine my fucking dick five nine
No, it's shorter than that. Four times, five times.
Shout out Taz versus BamBam Bigelow and ECW.
Amazing feuds. Sending each other through the ring, through the ramp, off the stage.
Amazing shit.
Was that before his ECW days or after?
Are you talking about ECW?
ECW I'm talking. Yeah, in ECW.
I thought you said WCW. I was like, I don't remember.
Oh no, no, maybe it was a slip but
ECW is what I meant post BAM BAM and WWF. Oh my god. He was amazing
Yeah, he went through the ring and he's I was like wait. Yes
All that one of the best thoughts ever because that was in their intro video. Yes
It's all they use that forever
And by the way, I told I said this on the road down. I think
I said in the basement, I have wrestling coming to my town, my high school, $15 to get in $20
for ringside seats, $5. I love it. Tommy dreamers, the headliner. And I think that's the only guy on
the cart other than Tony Atlas, who is older than my dad, I think as the two people that I know that you know,
and you're a wrestling guy. So I am going to be watching some primo fucking, Oh, you're
going your first year going, I've, I'm like basically begging agent, my agent, you want
to go to that wrestling thing? Okay. And then I'm asking like every week I'm like, dude,
are we going to his birthday? He's going to opening day, the fourth. He doesn't know it's
going to be surprised that we're going to wrestling and then his birthday is the
Six and we might go to another Mets game or I might have a birthday party
And I just want to watch some fucking 30 somethings bash each other's brains at my old high school gym
I would love it. It's such a blast and like dude ECW is so good
I'm gonna go down ECW YouTube rabbit hole after we're done here. Yeah
And then the ending of the episode
Obviously shocking sad, but I thought incredible like well done third week in a row where I'm like, oh my god
You think the episodes like just end and he's putting the white tiger suit on he's released from prison
boom
Gun side screen shoots him right in the head and he walks off screen the guy that
shot him with a Punisher vest on. I don't think this is the Punisher. I don't even know
if we're meant to believe it's the Punisher because we've already seen that the corrupt
cops are using his symbol. But I do think it's going to be reported as the Punisher
and Matt Murdock is going to have to go visit Frank Castle and be like, hey dude, why the
fuck did you shoot White Tiger? They're going to get into it. They'll have to go visit Frank Castle and be like hey, dude. Why the fuck did you shoot white tiger?
They're gonna get into it. They'll have to team up against either the cops or is it like is
Fisk telling the cops to do this and frame Punisher see he spent the entire the entirety of season 3 of daredevil
Framing daredevil for murder and with bullseye bullseye was dressing up as daredevil framing him for murder
So I'm like he's been known to do this in the past but are you just running
back the same play you had before with the Punisher I don't know I don't think
this is the Punisher I think that's pretty fair to say I say we have a
powder keg brewing with the Punisher right now it's a mobile powder keg I'm
one man I got a shout out yo man's play DM me.
And is like, Clem, just want you to know,
Punisher, he doesn't like when people punish
with the Punisher logo on, unless he's the one wearing it.
So Punisher is going to be punishing people
for them punishing people while wearing the Punisher garb.
So I'm excited for that.
Again, I can live without Daredevil for a while
because we have Matt Murdock,
and we have kind of a lot of the powers.
He's fighting without this costume on.
I can't be leaving without Punisher
now that you started to tease him.
I don't want my, listen, I like having my balls tickled.
I don't want my balls tickled though right now.
I need, no ball tickling here.
People didn't see this coming.
So I wanted to, I hate ball tickling here. People didn't see this coming.
But we're talking.
So I wanted to, ball tickles.
So I wanted to bring this up as well
because someone tweeted that the Punisher in the comics
has changed his logo before.
And I don't know if they'll go as far as changing
in the show, because also the logo is like
one of the more iconic logos Marvel has.
But apparently in the comics, he changes it to more of a samurai thing.
Just kind of badass as well.
So I could see if the cops continue using it for him to maybe go with a variation of it.
So keep an eye out for that as well.
This is the one thing I will say about the Punisher logo,
and it's such a good fucking logo,
and I never really read that much Punisher growing up
I would just kind of thought it was cool looking from a distance. I'm not even a gun guy
Let's be honest though when you see a truck and let's be honest
It's most likely a truck with the Punisher logo. You're like that's a hard-o right?
Totally and and it sucks, but like it really kind of has been hijacked in real life
It's kind of interesting that they're going with this in the show
I saw I think it was empty from heavy spoilers tweeted like kind of interesting no hijacked in real life. It's kind of interesting that they're going with this in the show.
I saw, I think it was MT from Heavy Spoilers tweeted,
like, kind of interesting, no one's calling this woke
either, like, generally, I feel like this storyline
would get that backlash, maybe it's just because
it's so well done, I'm not sure, but they're doing like,
and I know they've done this in the comics as well,
but it's like, art imitates life, imitates art.
It's a weird circle of that.
But yeah, the Punisher logo has been hijacked.
And as a kid, I thought the same thing.
Like me and my friend Chris were so into The Punisher
when we were in like first grade
and we didn't know anything about The Punisher
other than like we could order his action figures
on McFarland toys.
He had a video game that came out.
I was not allowed to play it, but Chris was, so I'd go over his house. It was an insanely violent video game. You were drilling
holes into people's heads. You were like, really? Dude, if you looked up the videos
from the pun, I think it might've been 2005, 2006, the Punisher video game. I think it
might've been made by Rockstar too, which shows you like how crazy they could have gotten.
It was insane. All right. CHQQ it was insane, but very fun.
And I remember that being like, Oh, I got to go over Chris's play the
Punisher game because I'm not allowed first YouTube that comes up the brutal
all caps Punisher game for PS2.
Yes.
It was crazy.
Like Mama Fox was definitely in the right for being like, yeah, you're
six years old.
You're not playing that.
What I just see war zone crack house. That's the list. Yeah
I'm like wait, do you have to go kill the crack house leader is your objective?
There's a crack house near my apartment. It could use some cleaning out and I could use some target practice
What yeah fuck that's what kids are playing. Oh, don't do this day
Maybe the most violent video game I've ever played.
Bob, so again, I am one minute into this video, and it says,
you have two options with the guy.
Quick kill if you hit square, or interrogate if you hit X.
Yeah, and the interrogate was always worse.
It was, you know, you'd be putting toothpicks in the guy's fingernails. It was bad.
Oh my god, yeah, like, choose your own adventure, but there's no good part of this.
It's like pain is being you're punishing people.
Essentially.
This would be fun to go back and stream this game one day.
Just go back and play this insane game.
I think that yeah, I think this and it's like crazy thq also great wrestling.
Amazing.
Yeah, you know, you don't get health or points for saving
innocence that you've injured if you killer the game ends. So there at least
the Punisher has a code. Yeah. Yeah. I lose code but a code. Yeah. Quick. I keep
seeing quick kill and interrogate here. Press square to quick kill. Press R1 or
L1 to throw knives. One knife stuns an enemy. Two kills. Like, oh my god. The
guy's like pinned up against
the wall.
This is, I remember there was a level in an aquarium specifically where you like shove
a guy's head into the piranha tank and just let him unload on his face.
This there I'm looking at now this guy, the Punisher keeps putting a window down on a
guy's neck until it says broken and the broken like the progress bar has to go to full until
you break his neck.
Holy this is this is this is tell you what this whole segment is is validating Mama Fox's
parenting great parenting by Mama Fox great game development by THQ though like honestly Bob I
don't know if you could play it like I how has this thing not been banned from YouTube this hasn't
been flagged crazy I know what I watch heavy spoilers, he can't include like graphic violence from Invincible.
But this guy has this game on here, which is more violent than anything I've seen in
the movies.
I'm telling you, the people that remember this game, I think this segment is going to
be so nostalgic for them because they're probably thinking the same thing I was where it's like,
why aren't more people talking about how insane that game was?
When you go back to like the early to mid 2000s, you are like, wow,
it got like a little off the reservation there.
Wrestling, um, some of the stuff that they had to the poor, like pop pop star
girls, like the stuff you say, Britney Spears, right?
And it's like violent sex.
Like we were just, uh, the wild west back then.
Yes.
Oh man.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna love the fuck out of this YouTube watch
as I watch this.
I mean, the first place you go is a crack house.
I mean, that's just amazing in itself.
You never see that in 20.
You know what?
You call the Punisher woke.
You're gonna end up in this video game.
That's why everyone's up saying Joe.
He's coming after you.
Piranhas eat Joe.
Yeah, he looks, you throw the guy in the piranha tank.
Yes.
That's one of the more vivid memories I have because I remember I used to go to Williamsport all the time, too
And I went with like, you know friends and dad's friends and stuff like that and one of all my friends brought it to that
I remember him playing the piranha level in front of me and being me
I think even as a seven-year-old being like I don't think I should be watching this. I'm gonna go to bed
Guys, I'm sorry for giving you like a live play-by-play this video
I am just amazed I scroll through this so you go to a funeral you hit X to sit up at the funeral you shoot
Up a funeral and then you throw a guy in the fucking um
What you use to cremate someone like the fire. That's right. This is all coming back to me
I remember that I remember this sitting up at the funeral scene. Oh my god. This is all coming back to me. I remember that I remember that the sitting up at the funeral scene. Oh my god
This is this is horrifying. I can't turn away though like
Mama Fox is a great mom
And she definitely didn't know the half of it, you know, she just so is rated M
It's like yeah not happening if she knew the half of it. She probably wouldn't even let me read Marvel Comics
she probably wouldn't even let me read Marvel Comics. Yeah, that's true.
That's a good point.
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invincible. We've got a lot to touch on because we didn't
recap the penultimate episode last week based on like we did
the release schedule for Daredevil. So we've got the penultimate and the week based on like we did the release schedule for Daredevil.
So we've got the penultimate and the finale.
I don't know how we even want to like break it down
because there's a lot.
I guess episode by episode.
I just have like I have notes just in general for both.
Yeah, I mean, I guess we could talk about the first one.
And then first of all, this just was like,
I don't want to say it was more unhappy coincidence
than a happy coincidence
But I do think putting them together does make sense
We could have done its own but we had done daredevil got it out as soon as possible because it came out
But like these were so big separately, but they do kind of blend together. I heard in the comics. It's even more so
It's like one rolls right into the other so it almost makes more sense
But yeah, I I I could just if you want to go
You know the battle of the marks. I don't know what the fuck. Yeah, so the first note
I had the invasion of the marks
I loved how they did it like day by day like day one
Oh, then they showed you shit, and then day two and then they showed you shit. That was so awesome and
They each had different unique features.
You had the Mohawk guy.
Voices, costumes.
Everything about it was unique.
The guy who looked a lot more like Omni-Man than the other one.
That was fucking cool. I liked the guy he was working with.
The guy with the mask almost looked like a luchador style.
It was the mask, but then it went down like a drape over his mouth.
That was fucking cool.
I also just, a really, really tiny scene in the episode when they went up when there
was the mummy that like couldn't escape from his tomb or whatever he's just like
you wretched women he's like that was a really random scene but it really
cracked me up in this episode and then watching the actual invasion take place
watching Eve get her legs snapped in half like they did
holy fuck that shit was crazy one of the marks decimating the guardians just like Omni-Man
it's like poetry at fucking rhymes that scene was crazy I thought all of them like my dumb
brain like was convinced they were all dead in that moment.
RIP my dog Rex too I don't think anyone's supposed to be a Rex fan. No, but yeah, he felt it when he died
They built him up to the point and they showed all his like insecurities or like, you know
I'm kind of turning around in this guy and he has the girlfriend and he's like
I don't know when you feel for cuz the girlfriend seems like she's like she deserves
Good or whatever like in the montage with the Billy Eilish song that was good
Slow song after it and they were all like taking the death in oh, I like that
Everything like then this is one of those things
I imagine in the same way where you're thinking this must have been so cool in the comic books where you're meeting all the different
People I don't know if they did the day one day to the one thing I don't understand
is how does Mark beat all these guys?
And I know he has help from some people, but I want to add a little line
where they were like, yeah, they're just slightly less strong than him.
They have like a line where it must seem like they tried to excuse it.
Yeah, but I agree with you.
Like when it's overwhelming, it's like the fucking 10,000 rats debate where
it's like, yeah, 10,000 marks, like I think they're gonna
overwhelm them. Six marks to one mark. It's not like if you had
six marks to one Omni man, I'd say all right, well, yeah, you
know, I could and him and Adam Eaver kind of going like one to
one. Why don't they just like all team up at the same time?
Yep. Yep. But I mean, I guess maybe this is the Harrison Ford
thing.
It good. It ain't that kind of movie. That's why you gotta just don't worry about it. Having,
I just learned his name, Powerplex, the Aaron Paul guy, having him break out and then being
a part of it getting into the fight was cool too. Oliver getting in the mix. I like the brother team
up stuff. That was good. Mark didn't want him there, but he is strong enough to be there at this well
Was until he got into the finale fight, but I liked all of the brother dynamics the entire season
I thought that was really well done. Yeah, cuz I thought I was just gonna hate Oliver by the end
Yeah, same don't snap in half, please kid. That's good. Yeah, that's gonna be tough
so I'm also trying to figure out, so with Mark here,
and obviously all he went through this episode,
and then obviously in the finale,
first I thought maybe Oliver only existed in this timeline,
and then he becomes the evil Mark.
But now I'm starting to think that Mark's gone through
so much shit just in these last two episodes,
let alone what's coming.
Does our Mark become evil at some point, right?
And I guess he...
They're certainly teasing it, like even Robert Kirkman
saying this black and blue suit
was meant to be his venom suit, like...
Oh, okay, I didn't realize that.
So, I don't know, like I feel like the whole series
might be the struggle against that Luke Skywalker style.
And we're just like, all right right Luke also came out in black and
Return of the Jedi, but in the end, you know true
He's white inside yellow to black. It's a very big, you know light and dark, right?
Yeah, that kind of makes sense. And then we do have it where he leaves a mortal in charge
He's like you left me in charge here. So maybe he knows he has one path essentially
So he gets the fuck out of dodge
because he doesn't want to go straight Vader on the entire earth that I mean, Mark, Mark is Mark.
I don't even like your spider man's a menace and you're like, all right, I can see where you're
coming from. But he does more good than bad. Mark Mark's name is taking a real tarnishing, especially when it's a
bunch of his variants coming in.
Even his good and fighting them is Man of Steel style destroying the city. Like everything
is destroyed. They said hundreds of thousands of casualties at one point from the invasion
of the marks that they hundreds of thousands of yes is insane. It's all over the world.
And it's crazy. The fight with him and angstrom was really cool, really good, I thought.
Mark and Engstrom going back out and forth at it.
Sterling K. Brown, that voice is awesome.
He has one of the best voices out there.
I couldn't put it down.
I'm like, there's something extra with this character and that's what it is, the voice.
And we're Sterling K. Brown.
I think we said we were Sterling K. Brown fans in here, something in the past.
So that hammered home.
Well, he just was in Paradise too,
which is pretty awesome.
What's, I didn't see Paradise.
New show on Hulu.
I almost can't say anything about it
cause it'll spoil it, but like watch it with your wife.
It's like a good like family, not family, but like,
you know, you sit down and watch it.
Couple show?
Yeah, couple show. Yeah, a couple show.
Okay.
And then, I mean, I guess they get to it at the end
where he's like, I'm not gonna, you know,
I'm gonna start killing people, but it's a,
with that guy, could we have just like ripped him limb
from limb to make sure he never ever comes back?
Like what he brought with him, like what,
could he somehow bring more marks down the road?
Like he could, so, and God knows what he's going to bring so I feel like this guy
was like the absolute evil of it all right and obviously we meet another guy
who becomes a whole other problem. And that was awesome we could get into
Jeffrey Dean Morgan as Conquest another A plus casting choice this voice a lot
of us knowing him as Negan from the walking dead who just shows up and
Causes chaos and disarray right away. He's so good the I enjoy this monologue
He started with like he's like I'm not like the other ones. I enjoy this. Oh my god
It gave me chills watching it not often that like an animated series can give you chills like that. I
Put this in the notes. I said I don't
know how to say this but he's fun. He's a villain. Yeah. With every five year being. He just showed
up and instantly felt like one of Mark's like top nemesis. Yes. And I you know I don't I think it's
his first time he shows up and I remember reading the first time I met Doomsday in Superman when he
fucking kills him. I was like oh this guy's a problem from the job. Yeah, you know you are fucked and that's kind of what I thought this
I'm like I don't know this ending but it's it's gonna be really bad and it was somehow worse than I thought it was gonna be
The insurance claims I can't even fathom the insurance. I'm getting old
Companies are paying I've been through Hurricane Sandy I get it you
I'm thinking about more companies are paying. I've been through Hurricane Sandy.
I get it.
You have to contact the company.
You're like, Jesus Christ.
Why?
Yeah, I mean, I mean, like we always say like New York City in the MCU.
Your, your rates must be through the roof because it's like always a fight there.
These motherfuckers, they just go to like random cities and they just tear it
down and then they just fly to the next one.
Like there's no way to pinpoint where it's going to happen next.
Obviously Chicago was a big point with Mark and his dad. They went back to that with Powerplex.
So it's just and when he so I was like, all right, like you said, the monologues he has,
the the the look of him with the scar and the white eye or the white eye. Yes. The hand
of like robotic or whatever. So like he has the battle wounds. And I also heard that like, was it veteran?
How do I say?
I don't want to have your mind.
You'll turn my they get like stronger as they get older.
So it's like this guy is just, you know, fucking like,
which is another bottle bottle.
Like there's so many cool right.
Robert Kirkman did such a good job world building this
where it could easily feel like a boys type parody on superheroes.
Like the first episode feels like,
oh, Superman goes evil and kills the Justice League.
And it feels so unique at this point
that it does not feel like just a parody of a Marvel or DC thing.
Even if, you know, a character here or there may be an obvious pull.
It's so layered now, three seasons in,
and especially the bounce back in season three. Like season was amazing season two was good I would say but not
great uneven for sure because we also had the
end to right yes and that was weird that threw everything off and season three
we're back to being great I thought this was a start to finish great season of
television I think this this so this was my favorite season of invincible would
you say you like this more than one?
I think so. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the thing is, I infamously I
watched the first episode, saw that ending and I was like, I
don't think I'm ready for whatever the like if they're
just doing this in episode one, I don't know if I'm ready for
what's coming. I should have probably just stuck it through
but I didn't. This one I said like after the first episode
where it felt like it was just kind of the other two seasons
Everything since then it's been left rights, and it's just kept you off balance enough
And then they just started dropping fucking haymakers
This is one of my favorite like I say superhero seasons in terms of tv ever at this point
I'm not going to say it's one but i'm going to say it's top
10 5 maybe I I don't know and like remember the two twin guys like the rock guys
Like I feel like every other episode they became like our big yeah, those guys are just like wiped out
I think in the beginning season like yeah, we're done with that. That was training. We'll be in Tweedledum. Yeah
Don't even get like on the screen anymore
And so conquest I was like, I love the the look I love the like model
But when he fucking goes to space blows a bubble with his own weird turns it into a heart and then pops it I was like
That is an a-plus villain right there. It was so weird and like
Pause the whole fight your end the fight by the way
I think they saved the entire animation budget for cuz Because all of a sudden, it was like a beautiful animated show.
They turned it up, man, for sure.
They've never been this great. Yes. The shots even of like Mark's hair. I was like,
okay, this is like way better. But then it just stops and it's just so strange. You're like,
like he does the thing later on that's strange too, where he gets right in Mark's ear and starts
whispering to him. And it's so so like about how the other
Viltrometers afraid of him. They're all afraid of me. They
think I'm unhinged. He has he's not just a generic big bad. He
has these weird things about them him that I liked. I also
loved Eve showing up and putting up this huge fight right away.
Where it's like, oh shit, it feels like this fighter has been
sparring for five rounds
and a fresh one just entered the ring to fight him.
And it's like, all right, she's got something to prove.
And then my next note just said, Oh, no, I really thought she was gone
when he gives her that face punch, half of her face is off her body.
And then the punch through the stomach.
Holy fuck. And they played that like it was going to be her death, too.
Did you buy into that being a death? So I, when I saw the half face, I'm like, she could come back from
this. It's not going to be, but somehow she'd come back. And then the thing is when the person
or the hero is on the ground and their guts are hanging out and they're not moving. And then the
hero leaves them for like a couple of minutes.
That's what I'm like, alright, so we're just supposed to bury her in our head and
then we're gonna have the sad moment when he goes back there and sees her dead.
So yeah, I have buried her in my mind. Then she comes back as this atomic
version of herself, rebuilds herself from like the little fraction of her brain
that she had hidden. Little Jean Greyh, right? Where it's very Jean Graysh felt like the dark
on my note was Eve's dark Phoenix mode.
Yes. And this is what I got to say to Adam Eve, who I have been
a fan of since Episode One. I owe you an apology. Wasn't really
familiar with your game.
But it was badass. It blew the entire like skin and layers of muscle off of the fucking
guy's body conquest body. It looked like he was one of those guys in the bodies exhibit.
Remember that thing? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I forgot about one of them at the end. It was crazy.
I didn't know she even had the first set of powers and I wish like made the atmosphere
heavier and she kind of like
Armored herself up. I'm like alright Eve we can at least like
Maybe get like all that for a drop of blood out of him before mark saves the day And then she went up and was like fucking nuped a guy and I was like, holy shit
So that was awesome. And then mark headbutting conquest to death was
the most gnarly brutal metal thing I've ever seen
in my life.
Just the absolute, like the punches aren't going to do it.
So my faces and then his face, how it looked at the end of that crazy.
And then there's kind of like an epilogue that follows that of the robot change in his
name to Rex at the funeral.
And then the nine inch nails every day is exactly the same montage which I thought that was
another great montage. Good song choices in this season. They did a good job with the music department.
Yeah real like some some heavy stuff and some gothy stuff. I didn't realize for Mark, everything
on his body was like broken by the guy so all he had was his body and like his facial expressions
and another thing I love from this fight
that you don't see a lot in, I guess, comic fights in general.
It's like you have legit fear in Mark's eyes and like hopelessness.
And he's like, stop.
And the guy's like, I'm not stopping. Go fuck yourself.
And I was like, yeah, this Congress guy,
I thought he was like looking for a reason to monologue.
And he's like, no, I'm not monologuing right now.
I'm just going to kick the ever living shit out of you.
So all that kind of stuff, you just feel helpless as you're, as you're rooting for Mark.
So, um, I, I also thought the entire time, like, all right, Omni-Man and Alan the alien
are going to call him the day.
Cause you're like, there's nothing that's going to stop this guy that Mark can do.
So he needs daddy and Alan who's like fucking 98 or 2001 bonds,
Ali and the alien at this point.
So you have these guys and that's the only way
he's gonna make it and somehow Mark gets it done
with the headbutt.
So the, now the little, well you said the funeral scene
and then you're talking about the hints of the future.
Is that part of that as well?
Or is that afterwards?
Well, then there's the post credit scene, yeah.
They do like the little post credits.
One of my favorite fucking characters from this show who we haven't seen
since middle of season one.
If that Damien Darkblood in hell and he's talking to this little
like devil creature type thing.
It's like a tiny devil demon.
Let's use demon here.
I think it might be the devil though
I feel like it's like the devil's agent that might be it probably is but I feel probably even it's like good versus great
Bob devil that's capital true demons room, but hey listen, I could be wrong. That could be the big D devil
I'm not sure but I did read that Robert Kirkman
Always wanted to have a storyline like this in the comics and couldn't fit it in.
So he's finally doing he had this interview where he was like, there's so many Marvel comics where
they go to hell and they have to fight Mephisto. I wanted to do my own version of that. So I was
thinking, is Damien Darkblood like serving the devil in some way, where it's like this little
guy who we would never expect to be the devil could be the devil. It's the, you know, he comes
up and maybe he has this crazy.
I'm just happy that Damien Darkblood is back.
Voiced by Clancy Brown, one of our favorites, and the little demon creature
voiced by Bruce Campbell of the Evil Dead, which is a great little like meta shout.
Obviously, he's in a bunch of weird demonic shit over the years with Sam Raimi.
And even multiverse of madness, he has that fun cameo as like Pizza Joe or some weird character like that Pizza
Ball Joe. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
But yeah, I thought this was a great tease for the future of like, oh shit, are
we going to hell? Is the next season we're going to hell?
I'm in for that.
There's definitely and I was with Dark Blood.
Is this like I was a huge I didn't realize it was that long since again, and I did lot of binging and he's coming after Cecil too because Cecil was the one that sent them to hell
Yes, and who do we think he's like we have someone a host that like is it mark?
Is it Oliver is it Omni man is it Oliver? I bet Oliver
Oliver a little demon child like the what the omen is that the name of the
Child fucking commercial I don't like yeah
Shit like that was the name of the kid Damien wasn't Damien Damien
I think it was indeed like you're being a Damien was a like a phrase for years, right?
Like don't be a Damien
I think my mom told me that like people would say that when she was growing up or whatever. I mean Damien
Yeah, it's that's a cap another capital D right there. You know, you have that name usually comes with some stuff. Now, what if you would have rank power rank are
out of what we got in the post credits are three future like problems here. We have the aliens,
right? That are taking over people. We have the devil or the demon and we have the hell,
the hell story. Yeah, then we have what's the sterling k-brown character angstrom levy angstrom
Yeah, we have him plus like his servants who seem to be like
the best servants you can get here. They seem badass as fuck
but they were also like when he when he fucking came in with
a chopped off arm weren't they kind of like anti him he was
yelling at them?
Yeah, but now he's like, listen, we're good now.
I'm gonna go get you what you want.
So I feel like they're ready to do
whatever he needs along the way.
So I think they're just gonna be part of the problem.
How would you rank these three problems
for our pal Mark who, I mean,
he's gonna have other shit he has to deal with.
Do we still have Gene Head out there?
We still just gotta, you know, I'm-Man. The hell problem I'm intrigued by because if it wasn't in the comics initially,
could it be the biggest problem for Mark? Like, would it be to that level or is this
just kind of a fun side thing that could be a good DLC kind of thing? Yeah, is this a
DLC or is this the main story? So I would say not that one.
I would say it might be Angstrom.
After all of that, if you're going to have a big bad for the next season,
he was the one that ran Terra and killed hundreds of thousands by bringing the Marks in the first place.
I think getting that final revenge, which we thought we fucking got, Mark thought he got at least,
I think it might be angstrom
You might be right. I think I mean I'm sure it's out there like the comic readers probably know who it is
Yeah, that's the thing like again. We're going in bomb
We don't want to know and the aliens they feel it felt like they were gonna be something wrong at some point as well
I feel like the hell one could be because if you're gonna go hell like hell is like
Go full hell
However, I'm just saying this now
I forgot we have fucking conquest still alive fucking miles underground and I don't care if he twitches
He's gonna it's gonna blow up. That's fucking check off's gun. That's check off's Viltrum right down there
Yeah, coming back for Dean Morgan didn't get hired for 20 minutes or whatever
So I also thought his screen time, I would love to know his exact screen time conquest
because I feel like that is the perfect example
of like you don't need a lot of screen time to be amazing.
Yes, yes.
And you want to nail it with him
because he is such a big character.
Also, I didn't realize this
until I watched heavy spoilers recap.
The zombies that they're making making that Cecil's making
are the old marks I didn't realize that I just thought I don't think I did either
I'm what an idiot yeah so I mean that might be our real problem here right
through that might be the man taking them forever they were putting the
fucking helmets on them yeah and I'm like what's the problem why can't we
just drill them to these people and it's like oh the only thing that can stop these
Viltrumites and then maybe the Viltrumite they have is other marks and they're gonna be zombified with these whatever the fuck they're called
so that could end up becoming the big problem like it does feel like mark and I feel like
Looking back at season one man. We had such easy problems
Like it's nothing but all mad.
Looking back, like, yeah, your childhood, your, like, homework was all I had to do.
Yeah, exactly. That's how I feel about season one.
You had those two fucking twiddle-dee-toodle-dum rock motherfuckers.
You're like, oh, we got to deal with these guys again?
I'd give anything to have that back for our guy, Mark.
I'm just happy he had... I thought Eve was a dunzo. Dunzo.
And I'm very happy she's back. I am too. She's a great character. Jillian
Jacobs does a great job with her voice. There are multiple voice actors in this episode where it's
like damn they're delivering like real performances. Jillian Jacobs, Steven Youn obviously is a bunch
of marks. Jeffrey Dean Morgan. They're all great great actors that can translate their voices to being great voice actors. This I'd say this this season of Invincible definitely I'll perform the
last of the boys. I think the boys ended well but I don't think there was a lot
of the boys where we were like we need a little bit more. I liked it but this was
like kind of flawless start to finish. The only thing that I would have maybe
taken a peg taken it a peg down for
is the animation I still felt like was, it could have been better. And I feel like the show doing
as well as it does should cause Amazon to put more money into it. I wonder if it's, yeah, I wonder
if like, hey, we can put more money into it. And if they ever will, the thing is the time they
probably don't want to fuck with the time. So. They want to do a season a year, yeah.
Yeah, so I don't think they could do, I don't know if there's enough money,
even with Bezos, to get the time. So it's like I'd rather have, but I'm with you 100%.
I would rather have this, of course. I would rather have one season a year that looks like this,
than wait longer, but it's like, I don't even want the style changed at all. I just want like,
more frames. I had someone the other day talking talking about stranger things with me and I'm like, oh, yeah
When the fuck is that coming back? Like remember how high we were at the end of this part two season four? Yeah
Oh, we were going crazy. And now like honestly, so I don't think you would even like met your wife yet
Yeah, it is weird but I mean that's still coming and they're still saying like season
four, I think every episode is going to be like two hours long, like a full, we're going
to have like eight movies or something.
Oh, I saw Tony Gilroy say that, uh, and or season two, it's designed where every arc
should feel like you're getting like a movie a week.
And that kind of sold me on it more.
I was like, Oh, that sounds cool.
That's what I said I was hoping for when we discuss different segments and it's like
I understand why people could be upset about it again I don't want to have like
uh cliffhanger cliffhanger and we're done like I would just like to watch a couple mini movies I
think that's and even like looking at it like that if we look if we break up the first season of and or into the arcs
You could say like alright. I didn't love the first one, but the heist arc and then the prison break arc
It's like two good movies right there if you look at it that way
It's like oh, we got two good Star Wars movies this year. It could just you know from a different perspective it
Some people say it's the best movie star has put out since 1983. Yeah, you could definitely make that argument. Also, if you've
made it all the way to the end of the podcast, maybe I should have mentioned this at the
front. The May 4th May 5th stream is on. We're in preparations. We had a meeting about it
this week. It's going to be 12pm on May the 4th, all the way to 12pm on the revenge of the 5th and we're gonna be doing a ton
of fun Star Wars stuff. I'm putting it together kind of like it's like a comic con so I'm gonna
have like panels on certain different aspects of Star Wars and fun things like that. Special guests,
video games, nostalgia, maybe even an aspect of like cooking. How about that? Little blue milk
in the morning something like that. Yeah.
So that's going to be fun.
Look forward to that on May 4th.
I'm really going to try to like hype that up and make it something.
Hashtag enthralled.
That's what I'll be.
That's right.
Hashtag enthralled on this week.
That was Daredevil born again and invincible.
We will be back next week to talk more Daredevil born again episode four, maybe a little Punisher. Maybe we'll even talk a little
more about that Punisher video game.
All right, talk to you next week.
All right, sweet.