My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 417 - DAREDEVIL BORN AGAIN EPISODE 4

Episode Date: March 20, 2025

Robbie and Clem discuss Episode 4 of #DaredevilBornAgain which features the return of Jon Bernthal's Frank Castle - aka The Punisher! Plus, they get into the nerd news of the week and discuss a potent...ial role for Robbie in Steven Spielberg's next movie! #DaredevilBornAgain #Daredevil **************************************** My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike! Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners. You can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement, presented by Barstool Sports and another Daredevil, Born Again recap edition of My Mom's Basement. I am very excited to recap Daredevil, Born Again, episode four with my co-host, Clem, today. Welcome to the Pup Punk Studio, a bit of a new look, trying some new things. Clem, how we doing? Looking good there, Bob. Looking good.
Starting point is 00:00:29 Your own little bar stool basement in the second floor. And it is messy. You can see if you're watching on YouTube. I know. I gotta straighten up the basement. The basement gets messy sometimes. Basement's one of those rooms that when it's messy, it feels right. When it's clean, it feels right. It just works.
Starting point is 00:00:46 It's just... Yeah. So you're good, Bob. You're amongst friends and family here. All right. Thank you. Quick basement keeping before we get into the episode. We've got some news to talk about as well. It won't just be Daredevil today. Marvel Rival streams from this very room every Tuesday at 4. I'm also doing WWE 2K25 streams every Wednesday at four.
Starting point is 00:01:05 So I'm becoming a straight up streamer. I said forever it would happen. And we were like joking about it. It happened, Clemen, I'm kind of doing it. Now am I Kai Sonata, am I speed with the viewers? No, but we're getting there. You gotta start somewhere. Gotta start somewhere.
Starting point is 00:01:20 The fact that this actually came to fruition, it became like a running joke. It was like New Year, I think that was your resolution from like 2021 on. somewhere the fact that this actually came to fruition it became like a running joke it was like new year that i think that was your resolution from like 2021 on years in a row and yeah here we are uh the world is no longer in lockdown but bob is now gonna lock himself in the basement and stream so hey better late than never right and you're getting better at everything too you're getting better i appreciate that i'm starting to get better at rivals. WWE I'm starting to get better at as well. I'm starting to get better at being able to look down at the chat and then look back up at the television.
Starting point is 00:01:51 It's just, you got to get in the groove of things. It's like riding a bike, even with just playing video games for me. I'm not that good at video games, despite me looking like I would be pretty good at video. That's a good way to put it. You're getting better at streaming, which is, you know, monitoring the chat as you play. That's a very important side of it as well. Barstool is becoming a streaming company in general at this point. I feel it is. We've got Clemmer streams, Vib streams. We're doing it across the board from from New York. Now, shout out
Starting point is 00:02:18 Nick Hamme helping everyone out on the production end. If only we thought like 10 years ago when we all went to New York, like, hey, into this YouTube thing this is a big deal it's too bad like the higher-ups didn't completely kill everything because they didn't know what the fuck they were talking about. Yeah we needed everything on the owned and operated channel so it was like YouTube schmooTube we don't need them yeah everything was on Facebook live back then it was just like Facebook live is the future I don't even know Facebook live is still a thing I'm sure it is I'm sure they have the capability to go live, but you don't hear that to be clear I am NOT talking about Dave by the way Dave know Yeah, they would have done whatever the other people told me other people told him Facebook live now that is the answer right there
Starting point is 00:02:57 Well, it was because they did the thing that like yeah Yeah, get you scroll past it and you get 10 viewers So it'd be like we're live on Facebook for my mom's basement. We have 40,000 concurrence and it's like yeah, those numbers might have been fudged. My favorite thing was when we used to just uh add like a comma to the viewers. You can say whatever you want. Commas are under zero. Yeah. Another stream I want to give everyone the big heads up about is the May 4th 24 hour stream. 12pm on May 4th we're going live. We will be live until 12pm on the Revenge of the Fifth.
Starting point is 00:03:32 And I want to give everyone the big heads up because we've been doing the meetings about it. We want to make it into something big. We want to make it into something special. A couple panels. We'll get Clem involved. We'll get Jeff D. Lowe involved, we'll get Ken Jack involved, we're gonna have little skits, we're gonna have little moments from interviews that I've done in the past, like when I talked to Topher Grace about his cut of the prequels into one movie, like we'll have little interludes and stuff like that, it's gonna be fun, I wanna make sure everyone, don't make plans for Sunday, May 4th, because we'll be in the basement.
Starting point is 00:04:04 If you're a May the 4th Star Wars fan, I'm sure your plans involve May the 4th Star Wars stuff. So Bob Fox is your outlet for that, you know, the whole day or in between your viewings of the movies. I'm sure you're going to be just fine and Bob Fox has all you covered. I love you through panels in there too. Like it's an actual fucking celebration or that's how we're going to call it. We're going to we're going to schedule like it's Star Wars
Starting point is 00:04:25 celebration but in the basement cuz Star Wars celebration is in Japan this year and it's the weekend of WrestleMania. So it's it's a tough like I can't make it out there and sacrifice WrestleMania for that. I I would sacrifice pretty much anything else for it but WrestleMania I've been going strong. Haven't missed one since WrestleMania 19. Aussie Dave this he's is he still DJing celebration? Maybe we get him in the DJ set.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I don't know. He might be, yeah. And then we hosted another rundown this week. I like giving everyone the heads up now that we have like almost a bonus episode as the rundown. This week was with Eddie, very fun. We got into like horror movies and stuff with Eddie. It became the horror movie episode, which I kind of appreciate
Starting point is 00:05:05 because I think that's right up Eddie's alley for sure. And yours a little bit as well. And I don't know any of the horror references other than Michael Myers, because I'm the scaredy cat. So the good mood crew, basically once a week you're getting me, Bob, and then a rotation of usually Jeff D'Lo, large Eddie.
Starting point is 00:05:21 I feel like those are usually our crews, which I think is again a Good vibes kind of crew and we get a little nerdy with it sometimes Absolutely. All right before we get into the nerdy news of the week Let's tell everyone about game time one of our favorite sponsors They don't make it easy to buy concert tickets these days You got to sign up for the presale you got to get in a queue by the time you get through the best seats You're gone. Trust me, I know all of that too well.
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Starting point is 00:07:53 those offspring tickets right now. Awesome. Alright let's get into some nerdy news of the week. No Daredevil set visit for me this week. I can't update anyone on the happenings of Daredevil season visit for me this week. I can't update anyone on the happenings of Daredevil season two, but they are filming actively around the city. Charlie Cox was filming a scene the other night, signing autographs for fans. It was Tuesday night and he was actually joking with him. He's like, why are you here watching me? Go home and watch Daredevil. Like there's these great videos from the set. So I missed out on them, but I'm not giving up yet. I think next week they're filming a little more in Manhattan or maybe a little more in Historia Queens I might bring that comic book back up and get it signed by them. Oh they're going to
Starting point is 00:08:31 Historia that's those are my old stop-and-grab right there Bob Fox. Maybe he signs everything I didn't realize he does the DD he does the fucking logo. Oh shit he's got a good autograph. How did they just fucking put this guy on ice for all these years? It's insane. It's insane. After watching this episode that they had him on ice. Oh, my God. And like how many actors and directors and writers are like, I don't really care about Marvel, but I just wanted to try a project for myself.
Starting point is 00:09:02 You have dudes were literally siding with their characters and like logo. What is going on? Feige, the trust, he's back at least. So I won't say anything. But like, I don't wanna, I wanna know what happened in that five year. Maybe Feige got flipped. Do we think about that?
Starting point is 00:09:18 Whoa, Feige got flipped. That's a good what if. Oh, we could write that comic. That would be fun to write. Super fourth wall breaking. Like we got got a Deadpool obviously talking about it. I'm not this is not a what if Bob. Five years ago, Feige got blipped. And then there was like a you know, it's like the movie Dave, which is constantly referenced for such a niche movie about where they had a guy who looks like the president to act like the president they found a
Starting point is 00:09:45 Feige look alike or they had a animatronic made in Disneyland just to kind of put the presenting like shit out to make it look like Feige was still in charge of a Billion dollar studio and then we finally got the real Feige back He got unblipped and now shits making sense again like that like the Russo brothers do that as well because shit's making sense again. Like, Matt, like, did the Russo brothers do that as well? Because when they came back, you know, maybe Feige is, you know, starting to come back around and he left around the time that they left.
Starting point is 00:10:12 I don't know. Have you thought about maybe like, they actually had the real time stones and Thanos actually did snap them away? Like, there is a non-zero chance that that happened. Maybe it's like to snap, you know, it takes so much out of you. We saw the Hulk fried his whole arm up to make a movie as good as Infinity War or as good as Endgame or
Starting point is 00:10:32 as good as both of them. Maybe it took that much out of Feige. Maybe he fucking snapped his arm off. You know what I mean? And you know who's going to like a big old fat idiot when it's all said and done? Trent. When he's like, oh, I know. Oh, definitely keep making Marvel movies. We definitely keep wanting them. Yeah. Fucking Doomsday and Secret Wars are gonna make a billion dollars in the snap of a finger. It's gonna you're gonna be still hitting balls into the water. Alright, Trent. Maybe Trent gets snapped away. That would be a real shame. Yeah, that'd be great. Yeah. Um I took a
Starting point is 00:11:00 suggestion from our listeners this week. I watched a few good men. When I put out the call for courtroom dramas inspired by Daredevil. That was the number one I got recommended left and right Twitter, Instagram, every DM I could get was like, just making sure you've seen a few good men, right? And the answer was no, I almost felt like embarrassed by that. It's one of those that I know was a classic, but I didn't realize how much of a classic it was
Starting point is 00:11:26 in that like the final scene starts happening, spoilers for a few good men if anyone hasn't seen it like me. It's the movie that you can't handle the truth comes from and I didn't know that. So when that's coming up and I'm like putting it together, it felt like I was like, oh shit, oh shit, he's gonna say it. He's got anything said. I went wild. Amazing movie. Amazing recommendation from the listeners. I mean, I'm not breaking any news here. I think it's like known as one of the greatest movies of all time, but it was so good. I mean, that did that like clean up at the Oscars?
Starting point is 00:11:59 I don't know. I looked it up. It went over for Clem. Oh, they didn't win a single Oscar. So it yeah. Best support, best supporting actor for Nicholson best It was unforgiven year, which is tough unforgiven beat it in a lot of things So Jack was nominated and Gene Hackman beat him and then unforgiven beat it for best picture I think it was nominated for maybe best editing and maybe something else But Rob Reiner directed Aaron Sorkin's script. Holy shit. It was great. And I do like and I saw years ago, I definitely have to do a rewatch
Starting point is 00:12:31 of it all and it'll hit a lot more because it was like I don't want to say a cultural phenomenon but like you can't handle the truth was like the punchline to countless jokes and you know, late night shows and shit like that and uh it was a big deal so I I do remember living through all that and the movie was obviously awesome as well so uh shout out to the the loisters we got some we have we have I got a lot of good like legal um dramas sent to me and as we'll get into daredevil in a little bit like this kind of just did tickle that itch again like it is I am definitely a fan of legal proceedings fictional fictional either got yeah the real-life shit so boring couldn't pay me actually the greatest legal proceeding or the greatest legal I
Starting point is 00:13:14 Don't think a drama. Did you you know in a cable guy when Ben Stiller acts like the Menendez brothers? I so I have never seen the full Cable Guy movie, but I have seen courtroom clips from Cable Guy for sure. I know that's like a famous thing. And it's like, it's so, it's like a running movie inside a movie cause they keep showing different clips of it and they're watching it and it's really,
Starting point is 00:13:37 it's just so goddamn funny, man. So I won't even, I'm not gonna say, I was gonna throw some lines at you. It's gonna go nowhere cause you've never seen the movie. I won't even say though that this is like was gonna throw some lines at you It's gonna go nowhere cuz you never seen the movie I won't even say though that this is like you have to see the table got fun cult classic movie It's not road trip in my mind. Yeah, I actually speaking of cult classic movies I rewatched because the the actor that plays uncle Rico's and the white lotus this season I rewatched Napoleon Dynamite for maybe the first time since like it came out.
Starting point is 00:14:06 I remember I owned it on DVD. I watched it in 2004 when I was six. And I like, it kind of went over my head. I thought maybe The Liger was funny. That is one of the dumbest movies ever made. And I loved it. In the best way possible, yes. It made me laugh the entire time.
Starting point is 00:14:23 But I also was like, I can't believe that like, MTV films like gave them the money to make this movie after seeing the script, because it's just like one scene after another, like, doesn't like have a good like clear narrative. It's just like stupid shit happening the entire time. And I laughed the entire time. Another like, I'm not recommending Napoleon Dinoid to anyone here, but I was just like, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa We are recommending no, no, I mean, I'm not like breaking any news. I'm recommending it, of course But people are like, yeah, no shit, Napoleon It was one of those movies that like I got in a little I saw the vote for Pedro shirts and yeah
Starting point is 00:14:58 I'm like this thing's like a movement. I'm like, you know what? Let's I don't know if I saw it in the theater I think we rented it on fucking like dvd or DVD or something Hollywood video blockbuster. Yeah, and I like instantly word Tina you're saying case I still say quesadilla to this day So there are some things in that movie that has survived years later And shout out to that guy whoever played a bully that I forgot who he is But he had like a moment where he was in a couple movies You're like dude get as many checks as you can right now
Starting point is 00:15:26 because I don't know if you have the jobs to be like a long term the guy that plays uncle Rico plays like a pretty Serious almost dangerous character in the white lotus like a con artists type guy so seeing him for now years he's been in a couple seasons as Kind of like this conniving serious character and then watching him as Uncle Rico fucking throwing the football and making videos himself it was hysterical I have some breaking news on the some fun breaking news I have made it through the first round of casting to be an extra in this Spielberg movie that I applied for I put out the call they needed a person with a car
Starting point is 00:16:06 and they're filming it in New Jersey. So I said, fuck it, I'll send it an email. It's a Spielberg movie, why not? I also had Ken Jack send in one for himself and we both did it, like the same hour. Unfortunately, Ken Jack did not get an email back. I did and they're asking me for my shoe size, my pants size, my inseam size, and they're like,
Starting point is 00:16:26 you're not guaranteed to get a call, but possibly the day before shooting, so it would be a week from today is when the shoot happens. I'll know on Wednesday if they need me to play customer with car in the new school. Oh, good thing you got your car redone recently, Bob. Exactly. I got everything fixed up and I'm like, oh my god, thank god, but I'm going to get a new one. Good thing you got your car redone recently. Exactly. I got everything fixed up and I'm like, oh my god. Thank god but I'm also like what if they
Starting point is 00:16:52 needed a **** real bad car? What if they needed a car with a broken windshield and I got mine fixed, you know, too soon. Bob, what would Han Solo do? He take out a bat and smash that **** You gotta do it. It's Spielberg, dude. If it wasn't Spielberg, I'd say let it fly. You got to crack your own windshield if you get the call.
Starting point is 00:17:08 And I sent in pictures of my car. It's funny. Like my car had to be cast as well. So maybe they just didn't like Ken Jack's car or something. That's it. Was it too fancy? I don't know. He we have both have Toyotas.
Starting point is 00:17:19 I have like an old Toyota Corolla. He had like an Avalon or I don't even know if that's a Toyota. He had something else. I got a Toyota Sienna Toyota crew. Stand fuck up sponsor the show and I've got the baby Yoda sticker on the back So it's like Toyota. Ah I've even got the twisters fucking magnets still on the side I was like, I wonder if that'll give me any you know brownie points with Spielberg He produced twisters and all that you would have the Toyota on the back of it
Starting point is 00:17:48 Yeah, I'll update everyone next week on that. Good news, Invincible returns for season four in 2026. Voice acting is already complete. They're just animating it. So they're getting on it. They said their ambition is one a year and seems like that's becoming a promise. So now we wait and see to see if they're going to maybe improve on that animation. Obviously if they're going to get it done in a year,
Starting point is 00:18:11 going to be tough to probably improve if they're keeping it the same timeline. But I know that's the one thing that you and a bunch of other fans have consistently like and I think it's a fair critique. Don't get me wrong. So I'm hoping there's maybe a little upgrade, but I am so happy the way three not even ended the way three was from almost the start. Yeah, I think we were starting to go down the boys where the boys is right now and I think the boys is going to end just fine. But I kind of the boys lost me there for a little while and invincible was starting to lose me as well.
Starting point is 00:18:44 I'm pretty fucking jacked up for uh, I mean season four might get I don't know. I can get it's just gonna get crazier I feel I feel like any episode could just be like a full-blown episode long fight with the world at some point We're just going around of civilians to die. That's essentially. Yeah. I know that The season for the year that brianranston finally accepts a role. I mean, they're involving like some other Breaking Bad characters Aaron Paul, Mike Ermentrout, maybe maybe season four. You pride.
Starting point is 00:19:18 The Mandalorian and Grogu has a $166 million budget, making it the cheapest Disney-era movie and the cheapest Star Wars since Revenge of the Sith. Now, it got community noted, this one out, and the community note says, this $166 million comes from qualified expenditures, reflecting only below-the-line wages and spending. The true budget is unknown. And you gotta figure,
Starting point is 00:19:42 the budget of this is gonna to go crazy with marketing. You know Baby Yoda is going to be on the top of every cab and billboard and whatnot. But I texted this to you and the takeaway that a lot of people online are having is that of course it's the lowest budget. The costar Grogu does not have to get paid. He's a CGI baby. So it's the first one with like one big cast member you have to pay. It's Pedro. And I'm sure they're going to cast, you know, Sigourney's in it, and they're going to cast other characters and figures that pop up
Starting point is 00:20:12 and we're going to be like, oh shit. But as far as leads go, it's one, it's Pedro, and he's probably doing voice acting for the majority of it. You know, it's probably someone else in the suit, a stunt suit. So they've kind of like built themselves into this perfect realm where they could just put a stunt guy in a Mandalorian suit and animate a baby next to him. And as long as the voice sounds like Pedro, you could kind of keep this going for life. It's kind of like the no name movie right now. Because listen, Pedro, I don't think literally
Starting point is 00:20:38 has time to even put that suit on. He's going to be in seven other massive franchises from now until that movie comes out probably. So it makes perfect sense. That was a great call with Baby Yoda basically being free, right? Someone's tweet was like, damn, if Baby Yoda had a better agent, this budget would be higher. The person who community noted that, I got to say has to be one of the three. And I say this is the nicest way possible. One of the three biggest losers on the planet. I thought you're going in a of the three and I say this is the nicest way possible. One of the three biggest losers on the planet. Oh, I thought you were going in a much different direction. I thought you were going to say is one of the three guys that host lights, camera, parcel.
Starting point is 00:21:14 That's who maybe they know about this shit. You know, Clemmer and Clemmer tells me all the time he listens to box office podcasts. He's like locked in. He's really fascinated by box office performance and stuff. So like I could see Clemmer community noting this. I'm saying like the guy community noted that like I, he might even too big of a loser to be on wookie wookie wookie. Yeah, wookie pedia. You're at least a fun nerd. Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:38 If you're talking about like budget expenditures, you're a math nerd. Math nerd. Exactly. And those are the worst kind of nerds, let's be honest. No disrespect, there's probably math nerds that watch the podcast. I hate math, so it's like I'm coming from anger, it's nothing personal. I'm a history nerd, I'm just not a math nerd. Same. We're on the same playing field there. This is weird news, kind of news that we discussed in a different way before when we talked about
Starting point is 00:22:02 Robert Pattinson possibly having a role in the MCU. We said on what level can you not play two comic book characters actively? Colin Farrell is now in talks to star in the DCU's Sergeant Rock movie. This went from Daniel Craig to Jeremy Allen White to Josh Brolin. Now we're talking to Colin Farrell. I don't know why it's being turned down or whatever. It's directed by Luca Guarda Gino guard Gorda Nino He did challengers. He did I think call me by your name. He did queer He did a bunch of these great movies that are like Oscar nominated very acclaimed It's an interesting movie as we've discussed. We don't know anything about sergeant Rock So we're surprised that they're going with a character like this right away in phase one or phase
Starting point is 00:22:45 two of the DCU. How do we feel about Colin Farrell potentially starring? Is the makeup enough to shield the penguin from his performance here? No, but the outlandish accent, I think is enough. It hoit me, it hoit me kid. As long as Sergeant Rock might talk like- He's an American american though so he's gonna do an american accent anyway it's just gonna be uh he's gonna do a southern accent maybe i has like sergeant rock seems like he could be from brooklyn though which would have some if i could find out where he's from real quick penguin it's like but this again i i think it
Starting point is 00:23:21 can work it's just why there's eight yeah a Brazilian actors that would be happy to take a paycheck to do the voice. Why do we have to do Colin Farrell of all people twice when I mean, he's probably the leader in the clubhouse right now in terms of DCU Q rating. I'd say it's him one. Honestly, John Cena is pretty high. John Cena is high. Obviously Pattinson, our girl, Cassini, and Lodi. I mean, go. Oh, and I didn't even have it on the news, but did you see who Milioti was hanging out with?
Starting point is 00:23:53 No. Chicks in the office puts out a picture. They're like, hey, it's Zoe Kravitz hanging out with, I don't even remember the guy's name, famous guy, for sure, famous guy. And it was like, oh, maybe they're going on a date together. In the background milliotis there with Michael Gandolfini oh like wow date where we've got Kristen millioti dating this the son of James Gandolfini she just full-blown going into the mob lifestyle now
Starting point is 00:24:19 Mikey gee all right I don't know if it was a date or not, but it was like the four of them in the pictures and chicks in the office was talking about Zoe Kravitz and this other guy like maybe they're a couple. Was that a fucking dream mob double date? Imagine that that's like they could make the perfect mob baby. I'll be honest with you. I'm rooting for Mikey because it sounded like his dad was an awesome dude. Obviously he's no longer with us, which is really sucks. So I'd love for Mikey just it sounded like his dad was an awesome dude. Obviously he's no longer with us, which is really sucks. So I'd love for Mikey just to be tearing it up in the real world and the dating scene. Either you're going to say Zoe was with Christine and I said, Katie, yo.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Well, I mean, they were maybe it was a double date in the other way. Maybe Randolphini was the guy that. Bob, put that as the YouTube title title throw some thumbnails on there and let's go viral right now by reporting by reporting outlandish news that is not true. And the only other thing it's not a real news item I guess it's just something I thought we should highlight here before we get at the Daredevil Born Again episode four it was yesterday but happy 70th birthday to one of the greatest action heroes and and actors of all time in the basement At least Bruce Willis Clem the floor is yours for your action hero my guy
Starting point is 00:25:34 It's not even showing it shows in different depends what I know you said the diehard Poster I mean, he's the greatest action star in the greatest action movie. Not much more needs to be said other than his goddamn name is Bruce Willis. I mean, how cool is that? Bruce Willis is the man. He had that cool quote. Well, it wasn't like a quote. It was Samuel L. Jackson talking about what Bruce Willis told him.
Starting point is 00:26:00 But he said he pulled Samuel L. Jackson aside one day and was like, you need a character that you could just go back to constantly, almost a safety net character. He's like, I've got John McClain, Stallone's got Rocky or Rambo, everyone's got their own character. And Samuel Jackson was like, yeah, it hit me when I signed a nine figure deal to play Nick Fury that I now have a safety net. I was like, yeah, that is fitting. It's crazy, Samuel L. Jackson, one of the most iconic actors of all time, is Nick Fury his most iconic role at this point? I personally think it's still Jules from Pulp Fiction.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Yeah, you're right. It is Pulp Fiction. And I have to, I heard a story recently, and I probably have the details a little off, but I don't know if you've ever heard this, that I believe Laurence Fishburne was going for that role between him and Sam Jackson. I think I don't know if Fishburne didn't want it or Sam Jackson just crushed it. I don't want to be specifics, but I believe like someone told Sam Jackson again, the move
Starting point is 00:27:02 whoever if I'm going to get community noted by that nerd, if he happens to be my fucking hell for this, but it was something like he wanted to then, you know, be able to like become like an A-lister and, you know, make being massive action movies. And because Sam Jackson was in both fiction, he got the role in Die Hard with a Vengeance and those two things obviously turned him from, oh yeah, that guy, that guy the guy from good fellows and the guy from this and I mean kind of a Jurassic Park to ease not yeah you think the hold on to your butts guy yeah exactly and then it's Sam and motherfucking Jackson skates on a plane so the fact that goes from there now in do fury and it's I believe it was like
Starting point is 00:27:44 Lawrence Fishburne could have had that and then it's one of those like closing doors moments it's like what would have happened if Lawrence Fishburne was Jules and I can't imagine anyone else's Jules in that movie. That's no and you're right that definitely is like I feel like if you've seen Pulp Fiction that is his most iconic role the only reason I brought up the Nick Fury thing is because of the box office of those movies and their records they hold like if you were to pull the entire planet and show him picture of Samuel Jackson say name one of his roles Nick Fury might be even though it's not his most iconic. It might be his most popular. How about this for a take?
Starting point is 00:28:16 I don't think I don't even acknowledge him as Nick Fury anymore because of secret invasion Again, it's become the running joke, right? Don't want to trash Secret Invasion and somehow Secret Invasion comes up. We're going to talk about it this week anyway. Yeah. So bad.
Starting point is 00:28:37 He was pretty good at that. I mean, he gave good performances opposite Ben Mendelsohn and even the wife stuff was good, even though it was clear it was never going to fucking... All all right we're not gonna go down all right let's just talk dark night too let's just check off all our boxes everyone check the bingo on your fucking bingo boards let's tell everyone about DraftKings before we get into Daredevil born again episode 4 when it comes to college basketball and March mania one one thing is for sure. Nothing's for sure. Upsets, buzzer beaters, Cinderella's
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Starting point is 00:30:03 it's almost like the Royal Rumble, where it's like it draws casual fans in and they could get excited about it as well. I said the other day like um if you're just like a casual that you're like ah it's just the first four games really nothing crazy but then you see those buzzer beaters and just the chaos that goes on and then you want to sprinkle a little thing on Drennaf Kings it kind of gets you something. You know you could you could do a lot with March Madness. Yeah, I was thinking about diving into a little, I saw Hank was tweeting about a first 10 where he could pick which team would be the first
Starting point is 00:30:34 to score 10 points. Oh, I love that. And that's just a quick way to get the appetizer. You don't have to walk the whole game, yeah. Yeah, remember Eddie was saying, it's like the first four is like the breadsticks for the meal. And I said it was almost like the water. like that is like the appetizer for a game though It's like let's just get some wings and get it and that's my other thing, too
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Starting point is 00:32:53 were like catering basically and it was better than catering. And that's one of those things that like sometimes with this job you're like my life I would have never had this in my life if I didn't work for Barstool And it's like oh now I know about factor All right now, let's tell the people about daredevil born again episode 4. This was a great episode I thought I was captivated by the entire thing. I was upset when it ended because I just wanted more I'm happy that next week is the double up week. We're getting two episodes next there. It is nice So as soon as this ended and I was a little upset I was like, all right at that next week is the double up week. We're getting two episodes next week. There it is, nice. So as soon as this ended and I was a little upset, I was like, all right, at least next week
Starting point is 00:33:28 we're getting back to back episodes. What were your general thoughts on episode four? So episode four, which it was the first, it was two the first week, right? And then three and then four. So this is like episode four, it's like, all right, we've gotten the new show launch and we've kind of steadied out.
Starting point is 00:33:44 We're now in cruising altitude for a television show, right? As if we're on a plane and this is the thing that I thought was very cool And I was gonna tweet it out. I honestly just forgot to do it because I don't go on Twitter much anymore It's just nice to have an MC show that I just look forward to it's like, oh, yeah daredevils tonight sweet That's gonna be nice. I can't wait to watch it right at 9 to like I was preparing I could have like done more things and I was even on FaceTime with Lady Fox I was like, alright, I'm sorry. I gotta hang up cuz it's like it's 850 Oh, I'm walking this the minute it comes out
Starting point is 00:34:14 Hang up on your fiance level. I mean it talked for a while You know We had the full phone call and she was like you want to do wordle on the FaceTime and I was like we can't staredevil night You just hung up on that that's me. I'm to do wordle on the FaceTime and I was like we can't it's daredevil night you just hung up on that that's really I'm sure many people have been hung up on for Matt Murdoch in the past this guy's a hound he's flirting with people he's got a girl and he's flirting with other lawyers I'm like this guy can't keep
Starting point is 00:34:37 himself down he's crazy you got to be worried if she hangs up on you to watch daredevil yeah probably doing the same thing. She's probably like, thank God I could hang up on this loser. Let me see Matt Murdoch. She's like, what can I do to get this idiot off the phone? Let me just ask him about Murdoch. I know he's just going to hang up. So very, very excited to have it on.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Obviously, another good episode. And we set up for the season, we're like, I'm wondering how that little double dip midseason is going to play and it's kind of doing the perfect job by a man and I wonder if it's too weaker episodes and putting them together is gonna or you know, not even weaker but there's more of a story and they don't want to have it where because I feel like we've adjusted again. Maybe it's just Kevin Feige got on blips. That could be that simple. But this is it's all coming together now. It's all starting to make sense again. Next week maybe could be the Punisher Daredevil team up. Now one thing that I will say I didn't appreciate was putting the Punisher right in the thumbnail for this one. When I booted up Disney Plus, it was this is the Punisher. And we kind of assumed maybe we'll get the Punisher in this one. Just leave that a surprise, you know? Like I didn't want to know right off the bat, like, oh, Jon Bernthal's back. Yeah, by the way, spoilers, spoilers. If you if you're this far, that's right. I mean, they put it out. Disney Plus put that out,
Starting point is 00:35:54 right? That's not on me for the Punisher thing. Not at all. Going forward. Yes. That I thought was weird. And then everyone I was like a little late late. Well, usually my wife and I will watch the dozen before she goes to bed. And then I'll usually get daredevil and if I have enough energy for it, let's be honest, I'm old. And I saw people were just tweeting out and I'm like, oh, we're just going willy-nilly with this punishers there. I wanna scream at drones, like it's not that level.
Starting point is 00:36:19 It's not everyone on Twitter is talking about it, but the people that are into it are talking about it live. So be careful on Twitter is talking about it, but the people that are into it are talking about it live. So be careful on Twitter that like Tuesday nights if you don't watch it live There are spoilers out like that. It's real quick. You know what I could live with that because I was gonna say Part of the thing with daredevil and again, this is because I work from home And have a fake job is that i'm like man I wish this thing just did launch at like 3 a.m Overnight and I could just watch it bang it out as soon as I dropped the kids off at school,
Starting point is 00:36:45 come home, watch it, get my notes in for the podcast. But at the same point, I do like having event television. I was asking for them having it night and it just feels right. It just feels right. This, the MCU, this was another thing I was going to put on social media. I was like, I don't want to deal with the people who are just going to be angry no matter what.
Starting point is 00:37:04 But there is a part of me that wants to give the MCU a little bit of a pass for the TV Stuff because it was a new medium It was after the biggest fucking moment that their universe may ever have it was after it wrapped up a bunch of shit And it was during COVID there was a lot of shit that there's new Disney leadership to that Well them like make as much content as you possibly can we have a new channel so Yeah, so if I'm trying to be glass half full guy like maybe this is a change and again five He was fucking ash cruising out here. Like you said maybe we got past the time. Yes. Yeah, we're just all right smoothing things out Yeah, the seat belt sounds coming off
Starting point is 00:37:41 Here's cross we don't want to say it's coming off Oh, there's nothing that makes you feel better, especially if you're going through a little turbulence and then the pilot says we're good. It's like Bob. I'm going to do burpees in the aisle. Yeah. Turn that light off. Let's go. So, we kick the episode off with the White Tiger's niece coming and she's got a badass name. It's her name in the comics as well. Angela Del Toro. As soon as I heard that, I was like badass name. In's her name in the comics as well Angela del Toro As soon as I heard that I was like badass name in the comics
Starting point is 00:38:07 She does take up the mantle of white tiger. It seems like they could go that way in the show as well She's asking to see his body the amulet was taken off his body We know that amulet gives you special powers and Matt Murdock is kind of just like a comforting Shoulder to cry on for her. He's like you don't want want to see the body. Like I promise, he takes her into the side room. This is just a perfect scene to let Charlie Cox cook a little bit and show that human side of Matt Murdock, why he's so likable. There's a lot of scenes like this in the original series
Starting point is 00:38:38 where he just has this like great moral compass and he knows the right thing to say in a lot of the wrong moments and a lot of the wrong moments or a lot of the bad moments in life and I thought this was a good way to kick the show off. He's that's me. That's just it. He's just like a good fucking dude too.
Starting point is 00:38:55 He is a good fucking dude. Angela, Angela de Toro. That's Angel of the Bull, right? Angel of the Bull. Yep? Angel of the Bull, yep. In Spanish there? Interesting. And that's the thing, I can imagine if people were gonna be mad about that, they're like, look at this woke thing,
Starting point is 00:39:14 they're gonna bring in his dog, his niece or daughter, whatever, to be the white tiger. It's like, this is what happens in the comic books, guys. And again, this episode, it's a pretty woke episode. Not a lot of people saying it's woke, but the entire thing with like, Matt Murdock represents Leroy Bradford in this episode. I mean, there's like a narrative on incarceration and stuff
Starting point is 00:39:35 that it's pretty woke show. And I'm pretty surprised by that, but the writing and the acting and everything around it is so good that people are down for it. And it's because I think we just, people just stop being assholes with some of them. I hope so. I feel like it's a good sign that like people are acting normal about this. It's a good show. It's just a good show. So yeah, I'm feeling I'm feeling good about Daredevil. Turn that goddamn seatbelt light off. It's all oh,
Starting point is 00:40:05 about their devil turn that goddamn seatbelt light off it's all oh you hear like the little thing we get our look at muse and his subway hideout this new villain who has an all white outfit ski cap bloody like bulge like bullseye eyes almost like like a bullet hole eye and this freak does paint things with blood that he's draining out of victims. He's got this one lady over his shoulder. He's got this super creepy foreboding presence in the show already. He's been teased with the graffiti and stuff. I like the way this character,
Starting point is 00:40:36 in just a few appearances, quick appearances, and no dialogue really, other than we get the dialogue when he's out of costume. He feels like he's casting a shadow over the show and it feels like he's coming. It's cool. He's a fucking problem. And he almost feels like he belongs more in the
Starting point is 00:40:57 jagged edge version of the Batman, right? Yeah. I was gonna say almost like a Paul Dano Riddler. Yes, like he goes into that world I think even better than this world, and that's the other thing too I was thinking of before the episode started and I might come as early as next week now that we got the big P man back Didn't we were told violence and crazy. Yeah, you know so what shit It's not a guy get fucking hit by a train, and it wasn't like yeah like an invincible or the boys
Starting point is 00:41:28 To didn't when he fights with the cops that's when he fucking does the yeah I'm elbow that but even the cop had a long-sleeve shirt on we just saw it fill with blood But that was as gore as we got and this well, I guess episode one episode one is pretty gory Yes, just the first 10 minutes. Yup. And throwing decks off the roof and shit. But yeah, you're right. It's like so far we haven't seen what's been promised that's still coming. And I'm sure it's coming down the road in spades to the point I'm gonna be like, please,
Starting point is 00:41:55 no more. His new pet, yeah. I don't like this guy Muse. I'm gonna have a private soliloquy about is there another villain and what I like about him right now. This guy news I I don't get down with weird creepy and he's doing art with blood Yeah, real three almost like seven level like the way they shot. Yes Real real creepy. This is hardcore horror movie shit that you sick fucks like you and Eddie would yeah down with I don't get down with
Starting point is 00:42:22 These kind of guys at all I don't even like them on my screen and when I heard of this guy cuz I I didn't read their dough I heard of you's I was like oh I don't want this guy and now that he's here and he looks exactly like he did in the complex I am NOT happy. I do not want I wanted on the record anti muse this guy As I mentioned Matt Murdoch represents man named LeB named Leroy Bradford in this episode. He stole some chips from a bodega. What was the snack?
Starting point is 00:42:51 You got the exact snack? It was fiddle faddle. Is that a real snack or a MC's snack? It's real. So you haven't had fiddle faddle. If you had crunch and munch. Oh, it was popcorn, wasn't it? It's like caramel popcorn.
Starting point is 00:43:04 It's kind of like a cracker Jack and I'd say poor man's cracker Jack. Cracker Jack has kind of become a poor man's cracker Jack It's caramel corn if you're stealing fiddle faddle, man You have bigger issues in life if you listen you're stealing Doritos. You're stealing some chips That's the good shit right there stealing fiddle faddle is a cry for help more than anything I just I was gonna ask if you're a fiddle faddle guy cuz no I think it's thanks I mean, I really like crackerjacks. I don't like eat them often, but I love like crackerjacks in a ballgame Yes, I love a good crackerjack I always the thing is like a crackerjack you could always complain about the prize like people complain about our games
Starting point is 00:43:41 There used to be more peanuts in there and they're cheaping out on us or the popcorns are less stale. People talk about it like they used to put golden crackers to like the prizes back in my day. You don't even understand. They put fucking nanotech in them back in the day. It's just, there was no toys back then. So you've got like an envelope with a piece of paper in it, blank piece of paper, people are like,
Starting point is 00:43:59 oh man, what a sweet prize from my cracker jacket. I can write a letter to my beloved Susan. It's like no they've always sucked It's just the world is a lot better now. It's kind of like parades parades are the worst thing in the world Yeah, we had no other way to keep us entertained back then So they do this really well done like commentary on incarceration where Matt? Strikes a deal with flirting with this lawyer where he's like talking about what she ate for breakfast that morning. He's like, oh, yeah, it's a blind thing. He's just being super suave like he's fucking
Starting point is 00:44:29 Lotvian honey cake, I believe. Yeah, it was Lotvian and I almost thought he's gonna say Lotvarian for a second. I did like that Leroy Bradford. I know we don't love Secret Invasion, but I liked when he was just being like that wasn't me. He's like, well, unfortunately they have you on video. He's like, could it be a scroll?
Starting point is 00:44:48 He's like, no, but the fact that he's bringing up scrolls alright The universe is starting to feel connected here This is what we need for things to feel like one cohesive story is being told with these different characters in their different corners that Did more that line did more for scroll culture then? Honestly, it probably did. Probably got more viewers in this episode than the whole fucking series. I saw after the premiere of Born Again, the original series viewership spiked by 153% or something. It went up and everyone's going back and watching the original, which is awesome.
Starting point is 00:45:19 And it only like reaffirms, I feel like, the decision for them to not only bring it back but then go do the whole creative overhaul to make it like the original series and shout out to whatever meeting happened and I was reading that the actress who played Vanessa wasn't even available when they were shooting this because she had a show and then it got canceled and it was during the writers' time and a lot of shit again. Fikie was blipped when they greenlit that. And now he came back in the time and then everything's fine now.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Seatbelts are off. And they have this good line with Leroy Bradford where he's like, they're spending five times more to imprison me than to feed me. And it kind of strikes a chord with Matt too. He realizes that this plea bargain or plea deal that he struck is like, yeah, maybe it's not the best thing. He sent another guy to prison or whatever. We get some couples therapy with
Starting point is 00:46:10 Vanessa and Wilson Fisk, as you mentioned, Vanessa. I can't imagine the show without her. Like I know the original series, we got seasons without her. But at this point, Vanessa and Wilson is such a vital part of Born Again that it would be crazy to not have her. We hear more about Adam, this man with great hands. Adam. That was cool. Soon as she starts talking about the hands that he has, and MT on Heavy Spoilers did a good job pointing out
Starting point is 00:46:35 how she wanted the hands that create rather than the hands that destroy the hands of Wilson Fisk and the poetry of that and everything. Just a tough scene again of Wilson Fisk and the poetry of that and everything. Just a tough scene again for Wilson Fisk, although it does become clear here that maybe he didn't just let Adam Cuckham and let him be. She had that line earlier where she was like,
Starting point is 00:46:58 please don't kill him. Well, maybe she's got a reason for that because it doesn't seem like he's just thriving after the confrontation that ended things. Yeah, the hands that create those beautiful hands and meanwhile, I would Kingpin's hands are bloody knuckles because yeah the fuck out of that guy's face and probably his hands to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:47:16 That's oh like I don't feel bad for the murderous crime lore that is also the mayor and probably full of corruption but man, you don't ever want to hear your wife talk about some other guys hands. That was man I would rather talk about the dick. Yeah Dick before you talk about the hands, you know, the hands is more intimate like Hands don't bring up hands and like that's the first thing you think of too Like and obviously you're gonna not like that and bringing this up But one of the first things I thought of too. Like and obviously the- You're gonna not like that I'm bringing this up but one of the first things I thought of when she started talking about the hands I was like oh those Vicky Vail hands were big.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Remember when we did the commentary for Batman with my brother? We just realized those Vicky Vail hands she's got giant hands. I got a tweet of him the last year and so I was like I watched this movie you guys ruined it for me. Vicky Vail's man hands just block right on the screen. Oh shit that's funny and we do find out later that yes Wilson Fisk has Adam chained up like Jesse from Breaking Bad. I'm not gonna lie I thought it was fucking Aaron Paul for a second. Me too dude! First scream someone tweeted me this too. He was like, dude, an Aaron Paul impression.
Starting point is 00:48:25 He like nailed the pitch of his voice. I almost went on and like searched, is Aaron Paul in Daredevil? And then they give you a- And that would be fucked if he just had Jesse Pinkman chained up again. With like extra hair, he bearded and everything. And I'm like, dude, I just had this guy in Invincible. I was so fucked, my brain-
Starting point is 00:48:43 I'm glad we all thought the same thing there. That's crazy that it was specifically like before we even see him when we hear the first scream when we when we hear him say more like you're a monster whatever he says he sounds a little less like Aaron Paul but the first thing he says it was like oh my god Aaron Paul's in the show. Yeah it was that was the only thing I could think of for like a full minute and I I had the remote in my hand to pause and then they zoomed in on space I was gonna say an iron palm like but why did they make that sound exactly? Did they take a literal fucking like sound clip from Breaking Bad when the Nazis have them in their dungeon?
Starting point is 00:49:16 Cuz that's we're talking that iron pole right in the dungeon by the Nazis. Yes Did not like I got huge. I see big man by that's what I wrote in the notes It is like is Michael Gandolfini going to become Adams Jesse Plemons Well, I think Gandolfini can go a lot of ways right now and honestly after the whole thing with BB when that leaks and Ketamine he's like I was doing okay like she's holy shit And he basically is like I will be rooting for you. Even if you fire me, that's a guy who I that's reasons to get fired.
Starting point is 00:49:50 He is as loyal as they come. Our boy Gandolfini is going to do some dirty shit. It's going to get bad. And I love it because I love Gandolfini. I'm happy for him. The character is going to be pretty solid. But man, it's we are. I feel like I'm going to really hate the character in the core of my heart for whatever he does here, because he's going to do some good stuff to good people. I feel I thought he was really good in that scene to the apology scene like the confession when Fisk is fucking ready to blow a gasket. And he calms down when he hears the confession and the apology from Michael Gandolfini. I know he got a lot of shit for Many Saints of Newark, a movie he wasn't even really in that much,
Starting point is 00:50:27 but I mean the whole movie was kind of not put together for him to succeed. I think that was the hope, but it got horrible reviews across the board. I feel like a good script, good editing, good scenes like this. I think he's a good actor. I think he's good. If he's not, people don't like him. That's fine. I'm rooting for him. I fucking like. Oh, I feel like if you're not rooting for him, fuck you.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Like you got to be rooting for him at the very least. If you're not a fucking Gandolfini stand, you fucking hate me. We got a root for the sopranos, especially like show some respect to a late New Jersey legend. Like you take care of the family in this house. Michael Gandolfini is a hero. Also, the only other fisc note I had on this episode that we built this city running bit in this episode was so fucking funny. The cut back and forth of the kids singing it and then him just getting more and more frustrated. And they had the line that went out on like discussing
Starting point is 00:51:24 film and all those Twitters that they said they had to go back and re record the kids singing. We built the city because it was too like on pitch the first time they had to make sure it was off key. And then the Latvian city is like, yeah, now was that his campaign song? It had to be. I don't think I don't think we heard it before, but it had to be based on them both choosing that maybe they had a line about that And I can imagine if you're a politician this shit has probably happened to like I'm sure Trump here's why I'm Probably hates it by now. It's the same kind of thing and I loved it was like such a great It's like oh great guys, and he just throws a coat on he's like I'm getting the fuck out of yeah
Starting point is 00:52:02 They're like oh we have our next number and And he's like, it won't be necessary. But that's not. Get the car ready. I got another name. I got another name that's a good name. When a guy yells it, Karen and good fellas. That was another one that sticks in your brain. Karen, tough, tough draw for the Karen's of the world.
Starting point is 00:52:24 The 2000s just hijacked that name They had it they were a fucking mob queen and now they are just the end. Yeah person, you know calling the cops on people Let me hear Vanessa from you again. You you do a good Vanessa Vanessa That is that kind of yeah, you have like the little like you feel the love at the end though, too You do it better than yeah, yeah, you can't do it but he's got a little bit of anger in his heart still you know Vanessa don't talk about Adam's hands like that in front of me Vanessa talk about it rather you talk about his cock it's 54 minutes in I dropped the hard c all right not the hardest of these but you know that's what I didn't realize that's what I wanted when I asked you to say that and then then what's that? That's why your brain.
Starting point is 00:53:05 That's Robby. We got to get D'Onofrio in the basement. We got I was listening to the podcast and at the 54 minute mark, you had to say the hot seat. I raised you better than that. Now, Mama Fox, no chance did Mama Fox make a 54 minute zero chance. The seatbelt light is off, folks. We're having fun in the basement.
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Starting point is 00:54:49 which I toured with Brandon Walker, have matches back there, dive off the SmackDown fist, stuff like that. It's available now, 2K25, and keep an eye out for some WrestleMania content leading into the show of all shows, the granddaddy of them all. I love the Bobby Fox creator wrestler. And I like that you had to like fit him out a little bit, probably because I did a, yeah, bro, come on.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Yeah. They told me to be honest. They said, all right. I didn't, you know, I was trying to give myself a little more credit, but they said, no, no, no, be honest. Do you, and do you realize that there is a chance, albeit an extremely small one, that the Gallagher brothers could find themselves in that game, fight each other, and it causes a real life fight
Starting point is 00:55:30 that ends in a war. Oh no, don't say that. Don't say that. We got 107 days till the reunion. Who's counting? That's incredible. Who's counting? All right, now to end the episode, obviously we got to talk about the Punisher, the reunion
Starting point is 00:55:46 with the Punisher. So Matt investigates the killing. He realizes the crooked cop, who again gave a good performance in this episode. He's been great this season. He was telling the truth because he's listening to the heartbeat as the crooked cop is telling him, I don't know anything about this. And his heartbeat's not getting faster. And that's always the tell for Matt. If the heartbeat gets faster, they're lying. His heartbeat stayed the same. He goes to the crime scene. He finds a bullet with the Punisher logo etched into the casing. He's like, all right, does some investigating. It seems like he knows where Punisher lives. Although the way it was shot and portrayed, he doesn't have dialogue about that. It almost seemed like he smelled a pie on a windowsill
Starting point is 00:56:22 and it just let, you it's like he just it led him to the smells like fresh blueberry exactly i was like oh is he just smelling something is this heightened sense or whatever but they have this extremely intense and emotional scene where they reunite he's calling him red which is what he called him in the original series and that's his nickname for him and he's confronting him about the guilt that he feels for not being there and saving Foggy, and he's making him say Foggy's name. It gets very intense and emotional very quick.
Starting point is 00:56:55 It almost feels like something was missing in how quick the scene moves, but the performances from John Bernthal and Charlie Cox completely save it. I think they said this was supposed to be later in the series and they pushed it forward. So maybe it was just like the editing or something choppy about that. I thought this is a scene that was awesome though. And John Bernthal, holy fuck, he makes everything he's in that much better.
Starting point is 00:57:22 He actually said he walked away from starring in the original version of this because he didn't like the characters direction He said I didn't see the version of Frank what they wanted from Frank didn't really make sense to me And I thought it would not appeal to the fans that had to be a huge part of them doing the creative overhaul When John Bernthal is like yen, thanks, but no, thanks Yeah, John Bernthal for not only his performance but doing the work behind the scenes. Dude, when they're going back and forth, I was just like, oh fuck, we got Bernthal on the MCU now. It's officially here and man, I got so happy.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Nine years to the day since his debut, by the way. How crazy is that? To the day. Wow, that's incredible. So it's funny you said the thing about the pie because I was like between that and I don't know there was some of the other stuff where he's like investing everything. I'm like we're really putting the he's blind but his other senses are yeah to the extreme level and I promise you I promise you guys I am not nitpicking with this stuff but like
Starting point is 00:58:23 when like seven things that are happening I'm like all right I am not nitpicking with this stuff. But when seven things that are all happening, I'm like, all right, I have to start wondering. This is getting a little ridiculous. Yeah, I'm with you. It's not a nitpick, but it's like, you gotta acknowledge, we're taking some leaps here. And that's okay, it's a comic book show, and they don't take that many leaps.
Starting point is 00:58:38 It's a fucking grounded show for the most part. But it's probably something about the editing. I would assume it's something to do with the show getting like put back together Frankensteined and they do a great job with it and the performances again carry it to where it's still great But you could tell it was a little Frankensteined Yes And you said the edit I was gonna say just cut some of the stuff out and I'll just fill in the blanks of my
Starting point is 00:58:59 Head because when I see it I was like, all right Just stop this because this is all I see on the screen right now. And I'm starting to have like. It was like a dog. It was like. And at some point, like the logical part of my brain, which is not a very big part of my brain, as you guys know, at some point it's like, wait, what's going on right now? It's like, shut up, man.
Starting point is 00:59:18 We're watching a comic book show. Just shut your face. This is not when you speak up. You don't speak up at all. So, okay, that was it. Then when I see these guys going back and forth, these guys, and listen, I didn't watch the seasons with them. I didn't watch any of the seasons. These guys have some fucking issues, Bob. These guys have some fucking issues. They have some moral disagreements for sure. Punishers like, I should
Starting point is 00:59:40 fucking kill people that have wronged me. Daredevilsils more I think God should be the only one that takes life They disagree a ton about the way they go about fighting crime for sure, but they also have like Demons in their brains obviously is from you know People have died and they're fighting crime and all this kind of stuff But man like those are two fractured individuals to get yeah And I want to go back and watch the Punisher show now I might do it this week. Lady Fox is still on a work trip I might just crush like a season of it and one night or something because people were pointing out empty from heavy spoilers
Starting point is 01:00:14 Specifically pointed out there's a lot of like circuits and green boards on Punisher's desk And they said that might relate to his old friend micro I think his name is who's his tech friend played by Eben Moss Backrack, who will soon be the thing. They're like, is he gonna fucking make an appearance as his old Punisher character? I don't know, but everything about John Bird Coldplay Punisher intrigues me. He's also doing that special presentation soon. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Thing and Punisher are like boys.
Starting point is 01:00:52 Well, I don't think maybe in the comics, but I'm saying like the guy that plays them, Eben Moss Bacharach, is a different character. Can't do that. We can't have. Yeah, we can't do this. We can't have two guys from the bear who are like pretty like obviously Bernthal's character isn't like present in the modern day. But like you see them interacting the fucking one of the best episodes is with Tina and you know they're their cousin and they're going back and forth.
Starting point is 01:01:14 I can't have I just cannot even if he's the thing. I don't know. All right. I'm sorry for going off on a tangent. I just again we're blending stuff together and that's a little too close to the third yeah it is yeah it yeah starting to get close Jeremy Allen white fucking joins eventually and he's playing another character Like the three of them were just hanging out. It's like Tina's Electra
Starting point is 01:01:39 First time we see him he's talking about food in the goddamn trail I'm like no keep listen the bear is enough of a big's talking about food in the goddamn trail. I'm like, no, keep listen, the bear is enough of a big enough show that's under the goddamn Hulu Disney Plus umbrella. You have to separate those two. You cannot have my again, the dumb part of my brain is like, why is cousin talking to uh, what's his what's the brother in the show's name again? RIP in peace. Uh, Michael, Michael Michael. Yeah, yeah, yeah, let it rip. Cuz yeah, we got it. I got Frank and I fucking love Frank. He is a crazy motherfucker. He's kind of has a little bit of Michael in him at
Starting point is 01:02:11 some points when Michael is using and kind of yeah, if Michael went down a different path. Yes, Michael went down a very different path. Um and then the episode ends with their conversation inspiring Matt to go back to the old me Go back to the old me and he opens up the daredevil armory and we get that awesome shot with the Five six daredevil helmets in a row different colors different fucking schemes. Why does he need different colors? I don't know. I don't think it really matters much to him. Maybe the black suit He's got and i
Starting point is 01:02:45 tweeted as a joke when i saw the initial thing going out i was like why does he need different colors and a bunch of people were like well he's got braille on the textures of him so you could feel for different and it's like i get it guys i was making a blind joke don't be a blindness bob there they i mean you saw this but yeah you can make a blind joke here and there that guy made the book the the uh what's his name the the convict made the blind joke to him about see oh, yeah Hey Leroy, settle down loud. I was trying to get you Probation get fuck out of them again. That was incredible how he Argued that down to 10 and again. I was like I'm in on core dramas here
Starting point is 01:03:22 Just he's flirting with a cute chick and he made it happen. I have to ask you this, Bob, because they talked about it in the beginning with our boy Gandolfini. They're talking about the recycling contracts and whatever. Oh, and the Red Hook. Yeah. Hey, Captain Planet over here. Do you know what Captain Planet is? And did you ever watch Captain Planet? I do know what it is. I never watched it. But I'm very aware of like, yeah, Captain Planet and the something. Planeteers maybe? Yeah, it was him, he's a green guy.
Starting point is 01:03:53 He's got like a Duke Nukem haircut. Yep, green, flat top, he was like a blue dude and they had the rings. Fun show, not making the people watch, watch Napoleon Dynamite and a few good men before you watch Captain Planet. And again again fucking something is going on in Red Hook Outer I don't know what's going on But powder keg and Red Hook because that again brought up and it was nice to hear Gandolfini talking about like
Starting point is 01:04:16 Recycling plants and shit. It's like a fucking waste management. Hey Actually, yeah, we do have next season going a Brooklyn Yeah, we're gonna get a season in Jersey would be great. Now what I'm doing, what I am very happy about is that we got teased with Punisher. We got Punisher. We got gotten like a little like we got everyone we had Kingpin. He became mayor already. And the one thing we really haven't got a lot of is Daredevil in the costume.
Starting point is 01:04:46 And I don't think anyone really has a problem with it right now, which goes to show just how good Charlie Cotten has been. I do think we're gonna, like the next two episodes next week, this is gonna be the Daredevil beaten ass episodes, I think. Hashtag back, this is hashtag back episode? Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Because I think this could be the time where you team up with Punisher. Maybe you take down the Crooked Cops or something. And then the last few episodes of the season can be where I think Bullseye is gonna be brought back at some point because there were shots in the trailer of him in the orange jumpsuit we haven't seen. He's definitely. Maybe you end with a little more Bullseye stuff. Maybe there's more stuff going on in Red Hook.
Starting point is 01:05:22 You end with the Kingpin stuff with the gangs that Vanessa's also currently keeping the powder keg closed, but there's a powder keg there as well. I don't know. I'm excited though. I'm excited for two episodes next week. I'm excited just like you are to have an MCU show to look forward to on Tuesday. Just so nice. Seatbelt signs off bold The fact they said bullseye the fact Want to say it they never said that in the original series either. I don't think oh really so the fact that he said it though I thought like oh, he's coming back there. Yeah, they're there They're they're they're helping like they're starting the pick of the scab like there's like it's like the little end of the scab is up Now it's gonna get ripped off for sure
Starting point is 01:06:01 Did you think he was gonna say foggy? He was gonna say the f-word or do you think I thought he's gonna make the whole scene without saying it? And yeah said it was like all right. It's out in the air now I I felt like you had to say when he's like say the name say his name Some people really really think foggy's gonna be in witness protection and and survive at some point Well, I believe that is a comic storyline. I believe at some point foggy gets killed and then you find out he didn't. That's a very comics thing to happen. And in the original series, we did have resurrections. It got crazy a little bit. I am still of the mindset that foggy will not
Starting point is 01:06:42 be resurrected, but I do think they'll go back and show flashbacks of maybe what happened in the time between the original series and Born Again. Because they said he'll be cast in season two. I think it's in a flashback capacity. Imagine if at the end of the season the show runner or the writer for Secret Invasion, the last episode of Secret Invasion does the finale and then foggy comes out and he's in witness protection goes hey It's foggy. I was born again
Starting point is 01:07:09 Credits are all and then it's like loony tunes like Motherfucker about flaggy fucking ruin this Ralph Bohners behind him to Just for no reason That was dear devil Born Again episode 4. That was nerd news for the week of March 20th. I got a hashtag. You got a hashtag? Bob, you nailed it.
Starting point is 01:07:32 I've said it enough times. Hashtag seatbelt sign is off. Alright, hashtag seatbelt sign is off. If you've made it to the end, we will be back next week. Hell, I might be fucking customer with card next week. I might be a famous guy next week. Um, but we will see you then Marvel rival streams Tuesdays at four WWE streams Wednesdays at four. And don't forget that May 4th stream is quickly approaching hashtag experience busters, hashtag experience busters,
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