My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 426 - THE LAST OF US S2 EPISODE 3/ANDOR S2 EPISODES 4-6

Episode Date: May 1, 2025

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Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement, presented by Barstool Sports. It is Robbie Fox and Clem back for another Andor slash Last of Us recap this week. Tomorrow, we will have a Thunderbolts recap and review for you as well. We've both seen the movie. I mean we could kind of start there. I feel like that's a fun place to start. Spoiler free thoughts. Of course. I liked it a lot. I thought it was really good and that's we'll get into the really good gray. We'll get into all of that on the Thunderbolts podcast but Clem we left the theater pretty happy.

You said solid and I think that is the best way to describe it you then I saw in as a tweet I think you had very good and And something else and I'm like Bob. You're just you're going you're naturally trailing it up, which is fine Again, some people great on curve some people curve it Yeah the like I think the the the raw emotion came out and then you Bob Fox it up to very good and I It is definitely not bad Definitely better than above average

Solid is I think the perfect what I put as my spoiler free review headline I go Thunderbolts was solid. So I like the way you put that I think the chemistry between the actors and the characters was great. I think the people with the reviews were pretty spot on with it being a good movie. I do think that maybe I went in a little too hyped, even though I told myself not to, because we were so low when it got announced to where we were when it actually came out and released. But and then the post credit scenes were definitely at least one of them was I think overhyped where they're saying it's like the biggest, best scene in MC history. The most important scene in the history of comic book movies.

You're not getting that. But like it is a good post credits. Like I like the post credits in this. So it's, it's just the expectations thing. Everyone has to like manage expectations with the movie. Because when you see it's number two on Rotten Tomatoes, it's like Black Panther Thunderbolts endgame in terms of Rotten Tomatoes score. Yeah. Okay, yeah. So it's like you see that and Thunderbolts is like a 95 on Rotten Tomatoes. People

are like, this must be one of the best Marvel movies ever. And it's not that. I don't know if anyone's gonna leave Thunderbolts going, that was one of the best Marvel movies ever. I think you could make a real argument it's one of the best since Endgame though. I think you could, if you wanted to make the argument,

you could say it's the best since Endgame. I would still put Guardians above it, Guardians 3. I'd put Deadpool and Wolverine above it, and the two Spider-Man movies post-Endgame. Everything outside of that, I think this is better then. So I was really happy with it, like you said, I maybe Bob Foxed it up with my adjectives, but like I told you, I love adjectives so much I can't pick a favorite. I just like to use a bunch of them. I saw the rap. They said this was the first Marvel movie in years

that didn't feel like an absolute hack job. And it's like, when we put it like that. Honestly, like, it sounds bad to say, because it's like, we've liked a lot of the movies that are, quote unquote, hack jobs or whatever, but you watch this, and you watch Captain America, Brave New World, you leave that one, you go, okay, that was reshoots, that was reshoots,

they maybe rewrote that, you had to know this from the Incredible Hulk. This is just a movie it's very straightforward very simple plot easy to follow likable characters like you said great chemistry with the team you want to see the team again after this it did everything it needed to be this needed to be just a little spark for Marvel theatrically and you could say Daredevil born again was a little spark I actually felt this was on a similar quality level to Daredevil born again, where I would go Okay, that show wasn't something I've never seen before it didn't reinvent the wheel. But I was like, that's just what I wanted out of that

show. And this is what I wanted out of Thunderbolts. I feels like it's it's I winning streak. It's not work or you know, we'll g analogy. It's not like 48 2007 just murdering teams like one by three, one by I'm happy we won and I fe the next week or in this

And um I would say obviously Brave New World was not that but I think Born Again was that I think Thunderbolts was that and I'm hoping like Fantastic Four is the 21-point win that we were hoping for and I do think a lot of people keep saying the endgame thing best movie since endgame you hear that or the best Marvel project it's like guys Guardians 3 was fucking awesome we have to just remember that it does get lost in the mix listen I'm a Guardians guy it's a sequel it's a part three at that it does get lost in the mix. Listen, I'm a Guardians guy. It's a sequel. It's a part three at that. It's the last of the series. And it's almost Guardians. They almost exist in their own universe. Even though the characters are big now to the whole fabric of the MCU. You do definitely forget them. And I'm going to go back to your airplane analogy. This is, I was trying to figure out where in the airplane this is. We're definitely leveled out. I think Daredevil has like, now they're giving out snacks. We're like, oh, even Daredevil's coming up good.

And I don't know if you do this. I started doing this probably, I had a really bad turbulence experience at the end of a Chicago trip last year. I do the, it's called like the turbulence maps. Have you ever heard of this? No. You can look up your flight and they'll tell you

what the turbulence should be during that flight based on like I guess wind patterns or whatever else and like this was one where I was like, you're like, oh wait, we're past Detroit. We're good right now. Like that's kind of what this felt like. It's like even the turbulence part, the rough parts of the flight are even smooth. So that's kind of how I feel. I feel like we're in a good place in the MCU, famous last words, but I feel like we're going to hear about it after Thunderbolts. Well, I mean, talking turbulence a little bit, I thought you were going to maybe go in a different direction there because I went and saw Thunderbolts twice now I saw it with you on Monday night, and then I took Lady Fox to see it last night in 4dx shout out Liam Crowley from screen rent invited me to the screening and we might get Liam on the podcast next week

We talked about that Liam's great guy lovely him. So we're gonna get him on for sure probably next week And he said you want to come to this 40x screening? I should sure but the only 40X experience I had before this was when we went and saw Avengers Endgame in 40X. And we didn't love it. It was like, I remember that the chair kept leaning forward during that screening and I kept having to scoot back up. I was like, I need a seatbelt or something.

Like, it was just a weird experience. I remember getting punched in the back during the Captain America versus Captain America fight and being like, oh, this hurts. This was a better experience than that. I'll say that. It was cool. I told you when bullets are flying past the screen, they kind of hit you with little like bursts of wind behind your ears so it almost feels like bullets are whipping past you. When you're in a car that's not like in a chase or exploding or anything flipping anything like that when you're just driving in a car the

chair kind of does have like a natural bounce where it makes it feel like you're actually on a car ride but there's action scenes and moments and explosions and bang bang boom and thunderbolts that was hirking and jerking me around like you wouldn't believe I might need a chiropractor after that because there are certain things where it was like Boom crash land or something and then you feel the shockwave in your seat It's like whoa, I had to pop a drama mean before the show and that's how old I'm getting we were like 40x drama meantime That's not good. That's not good for Bob Fox in terms of just you are an old soul

But we know what happened on the Guardians Rod obviously. Yeah. And then 40 acts like I went to end game left and was like I don't know if I'm gonna be doing that again. And I was like when you went I'm like I wonder in the last five or so years like how much everything's improved sounds like not really enough to make it a little bit. The big improvement is you now have a foot rest. So you don't feel like you're sliding out of your chair.

Your feet are planted and that's actually big. And there's a little fucking like wire by your feet. So every now and then if like something, if something's crawling or you got some wire fucking goes like that, hits your ankles. And you're like, ugh. I like that. But yeah, you'll hear a lot more about Thunderbolts

tomorrow on the podcast. So make sure to come back, make sure to update those podcast feeds. As soon as one showing is out, I'll make a lot more about Thunderbolts tomorrow on the podcast. So make sure to come back, make sure to update those podcast feeds. As soon as one showing is out, I'll make sure to upload the thing. So when you guys are coming back, when you're coming out of the theater, you can listen to us on the way home. Did you do the honey? I shrunk the audience, um, movie or whatever.

I don't know if it was a universal and they, yes, and you feel the mice by your feet that always skeeves. It's gotta be the same thing. I was thinking it's the same technology because I was thinking about that. I was thinking about the Muppets, you know, that crazy, the 3D extra, 4D extravaganza, whatever, because it hits you with the spray, the little water sprays and stuff. It's fun. Honestly, it's something I would never seek out. I would never be like, let's go see this in 4D, but it is fun to experience at least once. Yeah, I de

it once and I do think it get it, maybe they trim s they think of some new ex side. But uh yeah, it sound in the same spot as we we keeping real quick before shows that we're gonna re May the fourth stream

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All right, Clem, you wanna get into the last of us this week? Obviously a big fallout episode this week. I didn't know what to expect going in. I thought it was a good episode, but it was just that it was fallout. It was a little bit of a chiller episode, obviously a much chiller episode than last week. Some would say a filler episode rhymes with chiller. Some would say setup episode. Some would say fallout episode. Listen, we're not going to hate. We're just going to I think my

wife actually said to Sienna would it like with the credits roll. She goes and Sienna that is what we call a filler. I don't remember maybe even fall. It was one of the three and listen, I thought we would get the emotional. I didn't know if it would be a full blown, we're going to do a full emotional episode here and really harp on it. First of all, sounds like they don't do that in the game. It kind of is like, all right, we're back on the fucking mission here. We got to do what we got to do. Uh, but at the same point, it's like, I didn't realize this. Did you realize that this season is seven episodes total? Oh no, seven sounds like there might be a secret eight.

No, I didn't know that was seven. So we're, so we're kinda, this was three, right? We're kinda halfway through and we're now exactly halfway through and, or is this kind of the midway episode? How did you feel about the three month time jump? Obviously you get like Tommy walking in and seeing the body and that's super sad. But the three month time jump made me feel a little bit like I did it when I was watching the last Jedi actually. And they go to break the news. They go to break the news to Luke that Han is dead. He's like, where's Han? And then it cuts away and you don't get to see them telling Luke and Luke taking that in that Han Solo is not. That's actually one of my little nitpicks about the last Jedi is I would have liked to see that from Luke. I kind of would have

liked to see more of the immediate funerals and because it's not just Joel, you know, they mentioned they had to bury a bunch of the people from the battle. I think I would like to see that even if the game didn't go into that. I don't know. I can't believe you just brought this fucking last year. I didn't. I hate it. But it's similar, right? The whole thing. Like now I'm like bad about something like that. They came in hot. We're fucking boys.

Yeah, does he ever react anything? I block that movie from my memory. I try not to actually talk about it with people. You're the one who always keeps bringing whatever we're not we're gonna bury that deep inside last Jedi. So I agree with you. I on the inside. Last Jedi. Uh so II agree with you. I wanted to make a little more. Um I heavy spoilers did a breakdown and he said like they don't really do that in this

world because there has been so much loss for so long. It's like you can't keep morning together else. It's picking the **** It's not even a scab. It's like a scar and then you're just bleeding out every single time. So, I understand that side side of it. But I was thinking the same. It makes sense when I heard it like that. I'm like, okay, it makes sense. They wouldn't do it again. It's like what we want versus what the show gives us.

I'm fine with it. The Tommy thing. That's, that's fucking tough. It's like the morgue, I guess. It's like a fucking like makeshift morgue and the watch, like the watch has been the character of the show makeshift morgue and the watch. Like the watch has been the character of the show and just seeing it there fucking hammered it home. Like Thrones, you would always get the death and then you would usually get the fallout from the death, like the next episode, right? And that fucking just brings up all those feelings

that you had a Sunday before. And that's what I felt like. I have a weekly thing I wanna do on this show for last of us. Okay. What's your, I wish death upon Abby scale one to 10. After this. Still a 10.

I don't think this brought anything down for me. I think I'm still at the same level. Maybe a nine. Let's say a nine, because maybe it could leave room for it to go up if she does something even more hateable. But this didn't, I wasn't like all right Now I see where I like I see where Abby's coming from I do but I'm still fucking this is Pedro Pascal

It's not just Joel. It's Pedro Pascal and his grave when we see his grave. He's 41 when he died He was a rough-looking 41 For the record my abby desk scale is 100 million right now. It's been 100 million. Thank you for fucking, I don't even know, once the club made its way through his neck, I was like, 100 million and we have stayed consistently there, even though she's barely even mentioned and we definitely do not see her there. Then the watch, like the watch just gets me, man.

That fucking, even, did you notice that they updated the opening? Yeah, I know I didn't notice it in real time But I saw the tweet about it where it's the two silhouettes and now it's just the one that's fucking sad It's sad like now the show it just doesn't have him It's so like weird because I know video game people have been dealing with this for years like they know the storyline They've been waiting for it, but it feels like We were robbed of something. It feels like like i'm in denial still i'm in this the stage of denial this is a very weird niche reference but it's like when you hear about el nino being like the cause of weather and it's affecting everything and you're like el nino that was like i mean you're

probably before you're born they're talking about el Nino and like this is video game people have been said about Joel dying And now it's like coming back up with all his viewers like fucking Joel just gone man And they're like yeah, this has been going on forever man like this is new to us Oh, man, there's a lot of hurt here a lot of I got a watch like the trailer for fantastic four after every episode He's all right. He's there. He's just in a different universe rough an absolutely rough 41. Uh, I, is that definitely right though? Cause 29 he would, he has to be older than that. Cause 20 it's 29 is when he dies and this outbreak happened. The outbreak happens in 03, right? So that's 16 years. So was he 20? Oh, 51. No, I'm sorry.

He was 51. Okay. Okay. Which makes more sense, actually. Still a rough 51. But you add in that world with all the you're fighting the infected and then just like, you can't just like, you know, electricity is hard to come by and, you know, to find a battery is like a miracle on Earth. So everything like that, you have to age everyone probably about at least 10, maybe 15 years, let alone the shit Joel did in his time. Which again, I wonder if they're, they better not make a monster out of Joel. Like, you know, he's like, Oh yeah. Like who are the great monsters?

Like what they're doing to the Jedi and the Acolyte. They're like, no, no, no. I was going to say like, it's Hitler, it's Stalin. Like, and then like the new guy is Joel, like Hitler been lotting. I hope not. I hope it's not those three. But like if, if for the people that knew

that it's like he ruined humanity. In that firefly hospital, he just murdered people and killed the doctor that could have saved us. You know, so I am interested to see that because going forward, I don't see the Abbey death scale going below a hundred million. I really liked the maybe my favorite episode or my favorite scene in this episode was the town hall, where obviously Ellie wants the town to come together and go get justice. She's like, I don't want revenge.

I want justice. We need to hold these people accountable. What you know, what did the world become without justice and you get what's the old guy's name? Did you write that down? You remember the old guy's name? It was yeah, you set the world become without justice? And you get, what's the old guy's name? Did you write that down? You remember the old guy's name? It was bigot? Yeah, you set the bigot. We love him. We don't love set the bigot. But he's coming back around his scale has definitely gone down this week where it's like, alright, he's a bad guy. He's got some fucking

bigoted views. But he was sticking up for Ellie this week. And he actually helped her out. So I always love that as a trope, I guess, in television, video games, movies, whatever where it's the old guy that you're like, I don't really like you, but thanks, you know, like I appreciate that. The steak sandwich was like a nice peace offering to start an hour. And now we have him like, but the thing is he's he believes that he's not just trying to do right by Ellie.

He clearly clearly believes what he's saying and it's about us. It's about the town and yada yada yada Seems like he feels bad about that night too. Like I know it's like does he feel bad about it? Does he not I don't know I get the feeling that the character actually does feel bad about that and wants to make amends with Ellie and all of that and you get a lot of fault again fallout using that word a lot this week of the Ellie and all of that. And you get a lot of, again, fallout, using that word a lot this week, of the Ellie and Dina kiss on New Year's Eve. They have their first conversation about that where they talk about it and it's a little more like,

it's tough for Ellie because it's like, are they gonna, are they not gonna? I have a feeling they're not gonna, I don't know. I don't know how that's gonna go. I think it's gonna get stronger. Dina's cracking the door open for Ellie for sure. And it's like, but are you fully like, I don't know. I didn't know if that was some sort of youth slang. You were talking about cracking the door open. I didn't know what you were talking about.

No, she's leaving the possibility for, I didn't know what you were talking. No, it's just she's leaving the possibility for I don't know She's like wasn't that bad a kid, right? She's getting concerned about that kind of stuff. Like I don't know you don't want to hear your dick set smooth No one wants to hear their six of basically Either give me like a four and say I fucking stink or give me like a seven seven and a half and say Alright, you're above the mental like six is technically failing right 65 was passing in school. Yeah. But Ellie in her mind must be like, if I give her an eight, it must be like, Whoa, chill out. That wasn't an eight.

I was drunk. Like, yeah, tough for Ellie. Again, I've seen Bella Ramsey getting so much hate. Just it's crazy. Every week in we in and out people are just not accepting that she is playing Ellie in the show. I thought the scene where she reads her letter at the town hall and she doesn't have a lot of confidence like she's a very confident character but in that moment she keeps looking down and reading from the script. It felt so real to me. It felt like that's how a girl her age would present to a town and when you're trying to get this these votes and trying to get everything passed. also like that immediately, you know when she doesn't get it like alright

So she's gonna go on her own and then Dina knocks on the door and she's like come on like I know you don't have A plan in there essentially like you need a plan. I'll make the plan for you. Let's go fucking do this It's like listen, we just buried all these people you're probably gonna bury at least me and whoever comes with me But I'm going on my own at some point like yeah, you'd send 16 of your best or you can send me and whoever is nice enough to join me and whoever comes with me, but I'm going on my own at some point. Like you can send 16 of your best or you can send me and whoever's nice enough to join me and we're going to see where this goes. Cause as soon as I said, the one I was like, she's going, it's, it's, it's happening. Eight to three vote. I hope Bosco doesn't watch cause he's probably going to be having fucking flashbacks.

He was watching his, uh, that little pool ball game at three in the morning the other night. Cause he couldn't sleep. Like he is deep down in the vote rabbit hole and our boys got to get over that. Our boys set the big at let it fly. I really do appreciate how much he let it fly there. That was, that was great. He let it fly. And then he, even the scene where Dina makes, uh, she alludes to like, Oh, I have someone

that's going to help us. And I thought in my mind, I was like, it's going be set the bigger raise the only other one that stood up for the fucking meeting and everything. And then he does. That was nice. Yes. And he's like, Come on. This is better than yours. He's like, I fucking I played this game before. This gun has fucking five plus more damage or whatever. Um, I liked this scene that it was a quick exchange. But when Tommy just tells her like hey just so you know I buried Joel's body here this is where we buried the dead if you want to visit on the way to Seattle they're going to right yeah I liked that I liked her coming

up on the grave and seeing the tombstone and everything like it I'm still in denial but it gives you a little bit of closure the coffee beans I remember he coffee, but I was like, I don't know in the game if they harp on it more. They do mention it in the show. So I was like, huh. I think he was drinking it in his first scene this season, right? When Dina comes to him,

might not be his first scene this season, but when Dina comes to him and is talking to him about Ellie, I think he's sitting there sipping coffee as he's fixing whatever. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Because I did think like, it's not easy to get coffee in this world. It's sitting there sipping coffee as he's fixing whatever. Yeah, I'm pretty sure because I did think like it's not easy to get coffee in this world. It's not gonna get easy to get anything in this world. And people who are addicted to coffee, they need their fucking coffee. So that one did resonate with me. I thought the toughest scene was by far when Ellie goes into his house and it's empty and

she sees everything. And then once she goes into the jacket and I was like, oh no. And I mean, if you ever lost anyone, you've been there before and it's a fucking tough place. And if that one fucked me up, that one fucked me up the most was when she was with his jacket, you know, that was, that was cool.

And I like her taking the gun though. Did she leave the watch? I think she, did she? I hope the watch is using the plot device more. That's my favorite plot. I was thinking maybe she would wear the watch now, but now she's got the gun and I like that exchange. Oh, you're going to kill her with that gun. Two sides of Joel, right? That's the watch is his humanity and the gun is kind of once it's taken from him. Little- That's good. Dual man right there.

Analysis, yeah. We're putting the breakdown and breakdown this week. Was there anything else last of us wise that we didn't touch on that we have to touch on? I know it was kind of a shorter recap if you count the last 10 minutes we've talked about it, but there wasn't a lot to pull apart from this episode and dissect necessarily. I mentioned this I believe in episode one I don't know if I was as

strong about it um Gail the psychiatrist hate pure hate. Oh yeah that scene was she like come on like Ellie seemed like she was actually like handling things pretty well and the psychiatrist is being like no no actually you're not handling that well He's like I don't know fucking sad he died He was very close to him like she is a normal rational response to it all I hope we get some more I don't know if it's closure or just more lines light shed on Eugene So then we could obviously figure out more about him because I do think that's gonna be she obviously You know does not like Joel and then intern Ellie because of what happened to her husband and taking a ricochet shot. Oh, yeah. How much they fucking sucked. And as someone that has

watched two years of T ball and it's about to have his first year of pony league, I am ready for about the same level of quality of baseball. You just feel that in my mind, every year of my little league was quality baseball. And now looking back, it was so, it must have been so bad. So God, a wild a wild pitches. Yeah, yeah, the parents, the team, the coaches, anyone that goes to the games just to like support the kids. God bless every single one in the umpires were making money on.

God bless every single one of you. The cookies that. Gina made Ellie looked awesome, which I don't know how it looked really good. They did right? They looked really good. I don't know. Also we can make stuff that they like with the technology and probably the stuff they have,

but maybe it's like all the fake shit is gone and you're just getting cookies, right? Yeah. Question, does shimmer just sit in the fucking rain when they're getting dumped on? Yeah. They didn't like that. I don't know if horses can stand are angle boring, but that felt wrong.

Maybe they find a tree or a rock or something where it's covered in ores. I was going to say how do you not have a poncho for the horse, but they might be bigger things, bigger fish to fry than horse ponchos in this world, I guess. The jungle crew, the people with the little things on their like faces. Yeah, that was so we forgot to talk about that. That is worth talking about. Yeah, they have the Joker scars almost on their face. And there's that scene with them in the farce. And then you come up on the bodies later on. I mean, I know we were we were teased with maybe there's an even worse faction

than the people we know about. I have a feeling it's this faction. It feels like it's going to be these fucking crazy cultists. Yeah, I don't know. Like when you have Colts and kids are getting involved to get kind of scared, but then they're just all fucking murdered. So you're like those people are worse. Again, it felt very thronesy.

It felt like I was some crazy thrones, religious fanatics. And Bob, if we started a cult, tell me we wouldn't have the Joker scars would be like the Parker Puck cult. Let me mention Dark Knight after this. It'd be something Dark Knight. We talked about how Ralph Siforetto's hair, he based on Christopher Nolan's hair in The Sopranos.

He's like, make me a wig that looks like Christopher Nolan. Maybe that would be our cult thing. You need Nolan hair. You need Nolan hair hair in the supremacy. He's like make me a wig that looks like Christopher Nolan. Maybe that would be our cult thing like you need Nolan hair and ledger scars. Uh and my other my last takeaway was there are a lot of holes in Seattle and I thought we were going in and we were just going to pick off a couple

of like crazy kids and no, there are a mini army. Yeah, I don't know if many is even necessary it might be illegitimate for that world that is just an army for now for in the current world many army 2029 post infected world army capital a yeah that was the last of us episode 3 so I guess yeah next week when we watch episode 4 will be more than halfway through the season. I got asked by I think it was Basement Memes, our guy Basement Memes during my stream yesterday. I said or he said, are you more excited for the rest of Andor or the rest of Last of Us?

And I said I think I'm more excited for the rest of Andor because The Last of Us has been better so far in my opinion. But it feels like the best is still yet to come with Andor. So I'm more, maybe more excited. It's also a personal taste thing. I'm more excited for anything Star Wars than anything else, but both shows I'm excited for the culmination of this season being halfway through now. I feel like we had our moment in Last of Us.

And honestly, that would say a 10 in terms of oh fuck I don't know if we're gonna get higher than a 7 there I could be dead wrong I don't know if you can I'd be okay with it I want to be wrong I kind of want yeah yeah yeah like sticking fucking like camping and we're just killing a few wolves and yeah I feel like we're gonna get bad shit that's gonna happen though but yeah and or but I also f that moment because it do into this season. Yes, we

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So I had to go back to episode two when I watched two, three, four, five, and then I watched six this morning. Overall thoughts before we get into some of the notes and stuff. I thought these three episodes were better than last week's three episodes. I was more of a fan of the spy espionage vibes that these had. I still think it felt a little slow. And I know Andor is the slow methodical show. But maybe through now that we're halfway done with the season, I'm not judging the whole

season yet. I know it could completely change with the next six episodes But the first half of this season Feels a just a step below the first half of last season in my mind And I know last season again We had three that were kind of slow getting us into the story the next three we've got were like the heist with Cousin and we got introduced to Vail and it was the fucking crazy you know firework crazy lightspeed show whatever it was how do you feel about and or through six episodes so that was the next that was like three through five though I think

so yeah I'd say season one now has the lead on season two for sure. Yeah. Um and I'm still still season two's still good. Not trying to knock it down. I'm fine with it. The thing is with this is the way the show is I can just ignore or live with again the I'm slow I'm sipping slowly can't be chugging it you're not gonna it's not gonna taste great so a lot of times it is what it is I'm giving them a fair shot I will say if this was a weekly show and after five weeks I had gotten one episode a week that would have been I think too slow of a drip so I think the way I think the release actually benefits them because again you're not getting 50 it looks like 58 minutes episodes it's like 45 when you add in the stuff in the beginning you can skip and then the credits at the end

So it's really you know, I kind of go back I get a little bit done I'm watching a very very slow burn Star Wars movie. That is obviously very heady a lot of political whatever dealings So I would say season one has to clear lead. I would say This is also when season one hit the fucking afterburners. And I don't know if this has it in it. I hope it does, but I wouldn't have thought season one had it in it at that point either because that kind of came out of nowhere.

Like, holy shit, that's when we were like, hey, this is all right. This is a masterpiece. One of the best Star Wars scenes I've ever seen. But that's kind of the feel. I also say though, as crazy crazy as it sounds. Like the one thing that kind of got me the most jazzed up this was when I opened up Disney Plus and the lightsaber on the Disney

Plus. Yeah. Whoa, we're going all out for Andorra here. We're throwing a little lightsaber. So I like that too. And make no mistake about it. I love Andor and I am loving season two. Like I would use the capital L love on this, but I'm trying to be more rational. I'm trying to be less prone to hyperbole, which I know we're looking,

we're all looking for the guy that's grading on a curve in the basement. We're all trying to find him, but I'm trying to be rational. And if I'm just comparing it to season one, which I think is a fair comparison to compare to its own show, yeah this just felt just a step below. But again, season one I thought was a masterpiece. So a step below a masterpiece is still a very good complex Star Wars show with so many layers and it's a show

that you got to kind of put your phone down for it's like, you got to lock in and remember who all the members of the rebellion are. I love the way they've been showing their rebellion fractured and fighting with each other and not really a cohesive unit yet because no rebellions are at this early stage of the game. Do you want to just get into the episodes? I have a bunch of random notes about them all the the Bix nightmare to kick off this one, I thought was a good way to kick off the arc

because every arc we skip forward a year. And I also kind of like that too, like every week coming in being like, what happened in the last year? Like we're coming to these characters at random moments, almost felt like the original trilogy does. And that like, there's, yeah, some time between all the movies and we don't really know the adventures that go on between them. I like that comparison to the original trilogy does and that like there's yeah some time between all the movies and we don't really know the adventures that go on

between them. I like that comparison to the original trilogy because you're you know as I've gotten older you notice how they write stuff into shows when there is a time jump just to let you know so we are picking you know you're picking up pieces every single week and putting the puzzle together and trying to figure out what's going on. By the way I think we've talked about this on the pod are you a pro puzzle guy or anti puzzle guyuzzle guy? Pro puzzle guy. I like puzzles. Big anti-puzzle guy here. I am Lego, anti-lego, anti-puzzle. Stuff that can be together. Like just by the picture. Just by the action. I don't need the body. I don't need the body. The big puzzle family. The Fox family. The Fox family. Huge puzzle family we are.

So like down the shore, we'll always bring a puzzle down the shore, like when we were going for when we go to the Jersey shore for a week, you bring a puzzle for the one rainy day that you get, we would all stay in and do the puzzle together. So yeah, I'm a big puzzle guy. I like puzzles. I'm at the point where my family's becoming a big puzzle family and I'm just the dad doesn't do puzzles and he's downstate. And it's like a little bit like he's a little grumpy but it's like he's just you're not gonna want him up here he does not enjoy what he's doing so I decided like that I let that one off the chest on the bottom sure those people

are gonna be very upset with me I'm sure the people who agree with me there's both sides of the puzzle light side and dark side of the world yeah that um that scene too I was like oh fuck and by the way every single time the word Bix is set on screen. I want you guys to know I say Bubba Bix every single time. So I have my next note is Gorman is Star Wars Australia I wrote. It looks sick except for the spiders. I just can't I can't get over the spiders I don't even know if I mentioned him last week when they showed that little infomercial I was like, ah Jesus fucking spiders again

And now we're on Gorman and the spiders are such a fucking big part of the thing I have a couple know I mean skipping ahead. I had a note where I Where is this? I said? About the spiders in particular said I don't care if the rebellion rely. Yeah I wouldn't buy a spider if the rebellion depended on it. You cannot give me there's a little note in this fucking A hairy spider you can see the hairs coming off them. They look as creepy as I could ever imagine a spider looking That's like a family guy scene where it's like robbie fox goes up It's like dude take the spider the entire the the well-being of the entire galaxy depends on you.

Like, no, I'm good. No. And then just all the rum blows up because Bob didn't want to. Now, are those real spiders that they stuff or is it like a may like do they make? I thought so. I kind of thought it was like a taxidermy type thing. I can see either way for sure for sure And they've got a real name

They were like spiders or web weavers and then they like no they're Gorillian fucking arachnopods It's got a fucking real name when I saw the title of the episode was ever been to Gorman. I wrote oh fuck now It all collapse it's collided. I'll tell you right now Gorman ain't gonna be in a good place in episode 7 when we see the one year later No, and that was another thing is you're watching this show and you're like I didn't know the ending for and or and it's a happy ending, but it's not it's like It's the sunrise that he never gets to see it's it's that for him So I wrote like this scene Diego Luna is so good Scene where he's fighting with fixix though, and they're going back

and forth in the apartment and they're getting mad at each other. It's just heartbreaking to watch because you know, these two don't have a happy ending. It's not they live happy ever happily ever after. It's like, yeah, we know it's gonna go poorly. And hopefully, things turn up good for Bix. But it doesn't feel like the kind of show where they're gonna give Bix a happy ending. No, it's I mean, it's like what is gonna happen to the characters that are not

in Rogue One and the characters who make it there are gonna sacrifice everything because those characters didn't make it there. They're basically doing it for the ones that couldn't make it there. Speaking of Gorman. Love the chest clap. Oh, the chest clap is good. I like that, too. It feels like they have their own culture, love the chest clap. Oh, the chest clap is good. I like that too. It feels like they have their own like culture, like the planet.

I know it's like French there. I think there's just speaking French in this. Maybe it's a varied version of French. I don't know. It sounded like French to me, but everything about Gorman felt like a unique Star Wars planet that we can now add to the wookie pedia if it wasn't on there already. And it's it's just different. It's another nice planet that doesn't feel like a

scariff nice planet or a Naboo nice planet. It's just different. We see Star Wars Hotel. There's a Star Wars Hotel in Star Wars. Nice kind of just a regular hotel. There's a bellhop and check in. Yeah, very normal. Hotel we got a schedule. Couple of them dropped in these three episodes. But I made a note of it right hotel. We got a schedule. A couple of them dropped in these three episodes, but I made a note of it right away. We love that schedule. It took us by surprise and or season one. And then you watch the original trilogy back and I'm like, oh, there was a couple fucking schedules in the original trilogy as well. Serial to the light side. We're starting to drag

our boy serial to the light side, which I like this whole narrative. And it's this is one of the layered fucking he planted a thing that he planted thing that he knows planted for him. And now he's acting like he didn't plant it. Now he's acting like he was upset. His fucking head must be all over the place. Also concerned about his mom and dad at all times. But yeah, the cereal stuff in these three episodes is good and I know I'm calling him cereal. That's our thing. I'm not saying it wrong. I'm saying it right. I thought you were saying he had cereal when he went to visit his mom, which I which was wiping. I was like

he didn't go out and he was eating the cereal and you've I feel like everyone's done this when you're living on your own. You're just living your life. Whatever you whatever when you go home, there's like a certain dishes is obviously like mom's spaghetti or whatever, maybe you want that. But even like kind of like the cereals, like you're just going back to when you were a kid, 10 years earlier living at the house or whatever, and you're just going back to what worked. At one point, I was like, all right, he's setting them up. Then I'm like, wait, is he doing the right thing? Is he doing the wrong thing? Is he just you see the one who's really

lighting them all up? So I did like how you were kind of going back and forth in the beginning. I'm picturing Clem in your basement, just like pointing the fingers like the office, but it's at yourself. You're like, yeah, me, me. I loved the montage of Mon going over and like campaigning for votes with other senators. I was like, oh, that's like a fucking tactile politician trying to do something for the rebellion, kind of public facing.

She's going back and forth and I love, she's like walking next to the most ridiculous looking aliens in the world, having the most serious conversation you could have. I thought in that one scene where she's on the hallway and it's her, a ridiculous alien, then another ridiculous alien, then another human. I thought she was the one on the right the human on the right and I she was next to one of the ones we've seen before who has

like the curved head or whatever and I was like oh wait no she's talking to this guy's like what the fuck is I've never seen before so it is always fun I don't I've never seen those in Star Wars you might have seen him in the cartoons or any expanded universe shit but it I, I mean, that's just how, I like seeing the political side and how she has to like say stuff without saying stuff too. So like really leak how much she is involved. I thought that was, that was cool.

That was good. I love a good Lonnie and Luthen scene. We got our first Lonnie Luthen scene of the season in this one. Kind of in a similar place to where they did that monologue. It wasn't like on the high-rise or anything, but dark room he's given Lutheran information obviously the Gorman town hall scene was good when Serial shows up to that and is watching everything from their point of view the Tarkin massacre sounds fucking gnarly

Huh? That was a big one when you're throwing around Tarkin's name had pokes up a little bit and talk about this Massacre in the center of the town your rebel friends Honestly, I Forgot to bring it up on on the bracket. I thought grandma Tarkin got snubbed out of the best-named fucking good name That is a good name. Well, you know, we don't Calrissian at that. I guess maybe Ken Walk wasn't later name. Lando. Lando Calrissian at that. I guess maybe Ken. Yeah. Talk. It wasn't. It was our draft. The bracket as a little preview. It was more funny names than it was. Awesome names.

You know, it was like, I mean, Luke Skywalker is almost as cool of a name as he could come up with. But yeah, we we did the more Max Rebo and the Jizz Whalers type names. Yes. Yes. Um you you said it too with the Gormans having like that culture, the till the end or whatever where he does like the thing. I was like, man, it feels lived. The planets feel lived in the culture feels lived in. That one guy mocked my words. Yeah, I like it. Yeah. I just fired up. One of my notes just says, tubes! When I saw two tubes, our guy, I said also saw is just saws unhinged.

And I like seeing him, like we saw him last season where he's not all fucking robot arm, peg leg, mask, he's like a little bit more fresh, a little younger, a little spryer. He has been huffing RIDO this whole fucking time. Yeah, oh my God, that was crazy. We'll talk about that as well. But the end of episode one of this arc, it was episode four of the season, Bic's doing drugs, damn, sad to watch. So I see her do the drops, right?

She puts drops in her mouth. And I go, oh fuck, that's right. Drops is like a Star Wars drug, never knew that then I'm like wait am I thinking of Batman yeah I think those are eye drops yeah they call those the drops the main drug in the Reeves universe is the drops okay now in Star Wars have these drugs are these drugs known about have you known about them? I know wikipedia might have a free I don't think so maybe a wikipedia maybe I wasn't didn't come to mind right away from me where I was like

Oh, they're doing those drugs like I know like cigarettes. They have death sticks or whatever. They mentioned Spice of course, yeah But no, I didn't I didn't know that the tincture was a Star Wars drug, but it it looks Star Wars He's just a blue tincture. He did it and I gotta say My my note at the end of episode 4 was damn bigs doing drugs and then my note towards the end of Episode 6 I think was Biggs makes those drugs look kind of good From a certain point of view with drugs, right? There's always a certain point of view you can

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and it was from one to the other, you gotta find all your pictures. Absolutely not gonna matter. If I try to do with my mom now, forget it. But the fact you can do it and listen, there's two sets of moms here. There's the Bob Fox moms and then there's, well, I guess there's three kinds of moms. Bob Fox moms, there's my wife, the mom,

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pictures of Diego Luna onto my mom's frame just to be like, isn't this guy fucking cool? KFC, she has a crush on Starling Marte of the meds. Like Kevin goes over, he's like, mom, where are all the kids? It's just Starling Marte. So episode five, my first note was Frankenstein looking motherfucker. I don't even remember the context for him, but I remember he walked out and he looked like a pink Frankenstein and I just wrote Frankenstein looking motherfucker. Oh He was I don't really remember but Yeah, I thought he was gonna play a bigger role than he did. Yeah when they unveiled that do Frankenstein look a motherfucker Yeah, he kind of looked like uh, yeah, like it was almost like a little bit of vampire in him, too

Yeah, who Berry and Count Chocula had a kid. Yeah Yeah. Boo Berry and Count Chocula had a kid. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, is it Boo Berry? No, no. Frankenberry. Frankenberry.

Frankenberry. Frankenberry. And isn't there a boo, though? There is a Boo Berry as well. He is a douche. Yeah. I liked the scene where Andor's getting all of his information for his mission through an earpiece.

He's walking through, and you just hear your fashion designer. Your name is Buck, and I wrote down the name as well and I forgot it already. Valerian Sky. I don't even, I wrote it down. I don't know if I wrote it down correctly. Elite name. Another elite. Such a good name. Such a cool name. And the next episode he comes back to Bix and he's like, you should have seen me buddy. Fucking Valerian. Fucking Sky. He was like, they were doing a little role playing. I felt like uncomfortable.

Like I shouldn't be in the room for this. Bob, get the bunk out. When she told me to bring him home and she did like might have been a little bite on him. I'm like, god damn, Andor. I tripped. Bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum. Bix!

It's a bunk. The bellhop telling Andor about the massacre was a good scene, and I liked getting that information from someone that was a kid during and everything. But I got to say, the bellhop, creepy for some reason. I don't know if it was just the actor. I don't know if it was just the face. I don't know if it was his eyes.

He had a little bit of butthole eyes. The bellhop just creeped me out a little bit. No disrespect, of course. So this is my take. I don't think I'm a fan, and I don't want to offend the people who are bellhops that are listening. But it's like a forced service. Now, if they carry your stuff to your room, whatever, tip, whatever. But it seems like it's like always

like they're just acting like your friend just to get the money where they're not. And that I, and it also goes back to I have never liked Rob Schneider. I like a lot of those people from that SNL era. I just do not like Rob Schneider. He plays the bellhop in Home Alone 2. I saw this guy as Rob Schneider. This guy I think that's what made me maybe not like bellhops. I was like Home Alone 2. I'm not I'm out on that fucking And again if we've got any bellhop listeners, this is not about you sorry But you know what that is for me you ever walk into a fancy bathroom and there's the bathroom attendant in there That's the worst cuz it's like do I tip this person do are they gonna be mad at me if I don't tip like I could Grab the towel myself like from the paper towel dispenser. Usually they'll grab the towel and hand it to you. It's just like thank you

Isn't that awkward? We need to I don't want to do away with jobs Not trying to do away with American jobs, but we need to do away with the bathroom attendants We don't need bathroom attendants got to get them in the factories. We're gonna bring all the manufacturer it. Then it's gotta get them in the factories. We're gonna bring all the manufacturer back to those factories because it you that to do that to someone in the bathroom, you're basically cornering somebody and yeah, I don't think there's anybody who's like, yes, that's unless you like need friends. Let's be honest. I don't like that guy. I can get the towel. Now, if you take the breath mint, you gotta tip. You gotta know you do. Yeah. Maybe if he has like a like reusable towel, like

a nice one, and then he like throws in a laundry bin. If you want to dry your hands on the nice stuff, got to do that. But yeah, if I'm just using the paper towels and like I do not like being forced. Now, if I come in a bunch of guys help me out a bunch, you're gonna have to dip at some point. If you got a leaky black that you're Tommy smokes, you're gonna have to help the guy you're gonna blow up to dip at some point. If you, you got a leaky black that thing, your Tommy smokes, you're going to have to help the guy. You're going to blow up the bathroom. If I make it smell bad in there, you get a nice tip. I mean, and like, it's not on the same level, but it's when the homeless guy opens the door for you at like seven 11. Or they start squeegeeing your car. I didn't ask for this. Oh no, now

I'm in this spot. Yeah. And there's a difference between that and other people in the service industry to be clear. But you're kind of pouring me in, in the bathroom. I mostly like the premium bathroom with the guy who's there. And then give me the fucking poor people bathroom where I can just piss, wash my hands,

and fucking dry everything myself. I have an all caps note that just says enough with the spiders. I was fed up with the spiders. Awesome monologue when Cassian meets up with the daughter of the guy supposed to be, bad with names, Skullman's daughter, was it? He meets up with the fucking Gorman crew and they're like, oh are you who you're supposed to be and he's like he gives that monologue where he's like, what if I was an IPS officer? I am who you want me to be but just because you're lucky you need to be better at this and he's fucking going off on her good monologue from Diego Luna there like

So the show's called and obviously we have a very big affection to our boy Cassian. There's not, there's a lot of times there doesn't feel like his show. It felt like his show in that moment. I'm like, yeah, motherfucker, that's the guy right there. That's the- I think that's why I like these three more than the last three. And I've said like Mon Mothma might be

the most interesting part of the show, but it is Andor after all. And this, these three felt more Andor-focused than the last three did to me. And I do think that we're almost supposed to feel like Gorman. They're kind of rushing it. And it's like, Hey, it's easy to say these people don't know what they're doing. These people are in the shit right now.

And it's even going to get a lot shittier again by the next episode. So you kind of feel their plight plight. You like that? We're using the word. That's the first time anyone's ever used play on a bar stool podcast and they hit me with the company but it's it's tough man. It's tough and you're just like listen to this **** This guy got the the Bix. Come on. There's more unhinged Sagrara **** where he's ready to **** kill the new engineer right away and then it's a fucking back and forth and

it's again we have a lot of like double cross is it a double cross are they doing it for the right reasons are they doing it for the wrong reasons they dispatching information or they dispatching good information and then he makes Wilman fucking take his mask off it was like one of those videos where you see someone hit like an insane dab rig bong and then they just can't breathe. He's like, he's making noises that are barely even coughs. Saw Gerrera. He's just fucking, he's unhinged. I forgot this when I first saw him, the, all right, be honest.

I know you're all into the rebellion. You're a diehard guy. Did you laugh a little when you heard his voice? Oh, of course. It's so like a exasperated. Everything like trails off as I'm saying it, you know, and I know are hey when he had that line like we're going to be huffing the fuck out of this shit on our little island. They're not here. I was like, I'm ready to ride for you.

So I can understand why you're that dude. But there's also I would not ride for saw this is one takeaway where I had where I was like, I'm a rebellion guy through and through I've got the fucking wallets on my desk, I've got the rebel wallet and everything. If stall were the one to try to recruit me, I might be an empire guy, like he's so insane. And you almost feel like you can't trust him. It's like the evil you know versus the evil you don't know. At least I know what the Empire is.

Saw, like he might shoot me just cause he feels the wrong way waking up. And I think therein lies the fucking problem with rebellions in general. Cause you don't really have a choice about who you're pals with. Cause it's like you're this rag tag group. You kind of need every single person

and power player you can get. And you're going to have these crazy fucks like saw was out there talking like this and huffing and puffing, whatever you can. Meanwhile, every single Imperial officer is like bleach clean fucking, you know, just mission at hand, let's fucking ruin lives. And it doesn't matter for our higher ups and to advance our lives in our career. And that's why it's such a fucking battle to get up to where they were. I also don't understand what this radonium is.

Like, is that fuel? Is that what we're getting with fuel here? I think so. But he said, like, we'll be up with our radonium. I still it's almost like spice. Maybe they just use these words where it's like it could mean fuel, could mean drugs, it could mean fucking this, it could mean that. It's a little bit of everything maybe. You got it?

Rodium was a metal used as armor and weapon metal. Plating material. It's rhodium, right? He's talking rhodium? Is that the word? I think so. Oh, Rhydonium. Rhydonium was it, yeah, that was it.

It's a volatile starship fuel, so I did have that. Highly explosive, dangerous to salivate. Well, we see the fucking, they're doing the explosive shit with the fucking they're doing that. The progress is they're spinning. It almost looks like one of those things. You put the checks in at the bank. Looks like one of those fucking tubes. Speaking of tubes.

Yeah, I loved the entire Lutheran and the girl in his shop, the storyline, them going back and forth, the panic around this bugged item of like, oh fuck, we might have to fucking take that bug off the item and whatever, we need to get a bug on this one. That was all cool. Varian Sky, I think was the name,

I think it was Varian Sky. Varian Sky, yup, that's it. Loved that scene. Coruscant looks great. The fucking CGI in this show holds up so well where there's never a moment where I'm taken out of this show because of CG. Just feels very immersive through and through.

I like Mon's cousin, Val, getting back in the mix more in this arc. I really like her character. She's got, I think, maybe the best monologue in these three episodes when her partner shot with a ricochet shot and it's like, oh, fuck. And then she fucking yells in that guy's face. This is on you. This is your skin. She was everything you ever wanted to be like that

was that was piercing that was cutting. She will mourn they will mourn her days you can't even fathom you fucking. I think she's great. She's a great resting bitch face. She has an awful... She does. She does. Yeah. I like seeing the Senate again too. That was cool. Like seeing the Senate and seeing the concourse of the Senate as well. The Galactic Senate still hits. That's what I wrote. Yeah. The... Again, everyone's sucking Revenge of the Sith dick these days. I understand you guys have your

fun. There's definitely flaws in that movie. Well, just I my opinion is there's flaws in the movie. We'll just leave it that from a certain point of view. There's a fucking you know, like, you know, it fucking takes your breath away when you see that thing, even when it's in these darker times and it's not as pronounced the scene. It fucking takes your breath away when you see that thing, even when it's in these darker times and it's not as pronounced the scene. It fucking hits and even what's her name? Mon just like leaving me like, oh, she's like gripping the shit because she's trying to

get a hand on everything. Now do you want to talk about what I imagine the depths, the wikipedia message boards, there is probably a rising going on. I'm sure there'll be a Jerry Thornton blog about it tomorrow from the angry Star Wars fans, what they did today. The recast, is that what you're referring to? Yes. So we gotta talk about this.

They recast Bail Organa, who is Jimmy Smith's obviously. And I would say as far as prequel characters go, Jimmy Smith's is one of the more Associated with his character actors that they have it's it's a tough one to recast And do you have the name of the guy that they were they recast him as because it's another really famous guy Benjamin Benjamin I think it's like Benjamin Blatt Brat So the guy they recast as Bail Organa,

I actually like as an actor. I just don't know how to feel about this, Clem. Like Bail Organa is Jimmy Smits to me. And I would imagine he's going to play a bigger part in this season. Because if it was just this quick scene, you should have not had it. You should have not included it if it was like recasting

or including whatever. I'm so conflicted because I'm like, all right, in 50 years, when I'm old and I'm trying to show my grandkids Star Wars and maybe there's new stuff coming out, they're probably going to have to recast a bunch of these characters. I think they're going to recast almost everyone in 50 years. And eventually, you've got to break that seal.

At some point, you got to draw the line and say, the characters are more important than the actors. I get it. It just felt weird, dude. I didn't love it. I didn't love it. And I'm willing to keep an open mind. And if he's a bigger part of the season,

and we get to see a lot of scenes between him and Ma, I'm willing to keep an open mind. Ken Jack and Jeff, who've seen some screeners, said he's really good in it. They're like, like, this is a good recasting. So I'm keeping an open mind, but my my gut immediate instant reaction is, yeah, I didn't love it. So I was like, maybe it's because, you know, Jimmy Smith is getting older and whatever. Jimmy Smith is 69, Benjamin Bratt is 61 61 so we only cut eight years out there we didn't just an Obi-Wan too that makes it a little weird definitely played him in and rogue one Obi-Wan the prequels like he's played the character across so many mediums I

think he did the voice in the the animated shows as well like just tough yeah I love Jimmy Smith still, but Jimmy Smith's guy. Yeah, it almost, you know what it's like? It's like when you play a video game and the video game doesn't look like the character from the movie because they couldn't get the rights or whatever. And he just looks like,

I know that I got the guardians game and the voices are different. And obviously the characters look different until you're just like, you're not group. You're not rocket. It doesn't, but to use that as an example, people love that game. It's like, all right, maybe if you spend a little bit more

time with the character and let it sink in, and maybe we could gloss over that. Again, I'm keeping an open mind about it, because I would imagine if you're bringing Bail Organa in, I mean, he's such a massive part of the rebellion in general, probably for good reason. They probably got good shit planned with him. I was gonna say, do we know why,

oh here, why Bella Urgana was recast in Andros season two? I should have done this research beforehand. It could have been Dexter. I was thinking like Jimmy Smith is in Dexter and I know Dexter Resurrections is filming right now. That was what first came to mind for me. Yeah, that's what Gilroy said, scheduling conflict. So again, I guess it has to be a big enough part

where they needed to have bail. Do you go back to Smith's though down the road? Yeah, probably. Like if he wants to come back, I mean, if he wants to come back, you said he's 69 years old. How many more projects is it gonna be like, hey, we need bail, call up Jimmy.

Like, I don't know. But yeah, if he's around, you give him first dibs, I think. And the other side is like, I'm't know. I mean, we need bail. Call up Jimmy. Like, I don't know. But yeah, if he's around, you give him first dibs, I think. And the other side is like, I'm thinking with Marvel, like, they've recast, right? We've had the crazy recastings. We

had fucking, I mean, Chris Evans is Human Torch and Captain America, right? It's it's ridiculous. So, and they could have done a Marvel line. They could have had Monse like, oh, you're looking slim or something like that. Like, I don't know. Like, it's like, oh, empty nested, huh? Like, lay us out of the house. You sure have like, you know, got your energy. Yeah. I loved the scene in Lutheran shop when

they're showing Krennic the fucking book. Our first scene where we've got Mon Mothma, Lutheran Rail and Krennic on screen together. I was like, that's fucking cool. And it wasn't like the three of them. It wasn't, you know, it was as much going back to Lonnie in the back. And my note for that little pulp fiction inspired note I had, tell that bitch Lonnie to be cool.

Cause he wasn't being cool. He's not the fucking thing. He's fucking, they're trying to get the thing out. It's stuck. She's like, put your fucking hands on it. She's telling him exactly what he needs to do. He's like, they're trying to get the thing out, it's stuck, she's like, put your fucking hands on it. She's telling him exactly what he needs to do. He's like, oh, I'm gonna go over there. Just fucking tell that bitch to be cool, Lonnie, okay?

Be cool. Fucking cool. What's wrinkle, Lonnie? What's wrinkle, Lonnie? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When Krennic showed up on screen,

I started growling like a dog that like sends his people in the fucking room, and we're like, grr. And he had the cape on with the fucking, it was like a fancy credit you know he had the sash across and it was cool a variant outfit. Yeah he's wearing the like fucking royal fucking jersey for the day like they they really after team was a championship they'll like turn their letters gold or something he brought out the Sunday best for this uh what do what do they say? The festive evening. This is a festive. Yes. And then the last note I had just great, like feel good revenge scene for Bix

torturing her torturer, putting the headphones on them, putting the fucking mouth thing on them. Don't worry. This is only going to feel like forever. And then they fucking walk out. They hit the fucking explosion on it I thought that was just like alright that kind of ended this arc on like a let's go fucking kill the Empire note Yeah, and it's like I think Cassie is like we're not just doing everything by the book anymore because I don't know Do you feel I think a lot of people are looking at loose and like Yeah, one half eRA right now like he still can get up there on the gun and he gets you the wins.

But man, I feel like the old man's starting to lose it a little bit, lose his fastball. And people- Especially with the missions and not splitting up partners because they're more valuable separate than together to him. It's like, I mean, they have arguments about it in the show where it's basically, Cassian's like, you can have my blood, like you can whatever, like we just need to do this. It's, he's so determined and like laser focused to taking the Empire down.

He doesn't think of like real people. It's just like your pieces in the chess game. Yes. And he has to look at it as a chess game because that's why they're down this far. But then that's the cool thing about this far. But I you then that's the cool thing about shows like this is that you can see both sides just like last time you can see why both people act the way they act. It's not just all right and then like you said

we're crannies kind of seeing one thing from his angle and then mon saying from another angle. That's when the beauty of fictional shows can really hit. The badass not looking back at an explosion scene, I didn't see that coming when the episode started and then we're getting one of those in Andor in general. This, I have to admit, so I watched the last two episodes today, I watched the first one last night. So I was kind of, I still was fresh off the like,

we're gonna do some Barry and Sky role play. I feel like there was some big, sweaty, stinky rebel sex afterwards between the Vicks and- Oh yeah. Let's call it. There was some implied sex with Vel and her partner. Deirdre? Oh, and then also Deirdre.

It was like that quick scene, that you're not too, yeah. Turn off the fucking light. Yeah, yeah. They definitely do the classic like, Also, Dejra. That quick scene. You're not too. Yeah. Fucking light. Yeah. Yeah. They definitely do the classic like a kiss scene in Star Wars is a sex scene. Like they have that quote from back in the day.

Kind of feels like that in Andor. Like when they start getting hot and steamy talking about roleplay, it's like, all right, we get it. We get it. Onto the lightsabers. It's again, me and my fucking X-wing helmet. Like what am I watching? The scene where we have Luthen and Andor next to each other, that was like LeBron and Wade, the picture of them two.

And I even thought about this. Wade recruits LeBron to the heat, the fucking evil empire there. And then Wade's the one who kind of starts losing his fastball and that's when LeBron dips out. And obviously that's not exactly what happens, but same kind of vibes. I was just happy to see them together.

And there's a scene, maybe it's in Gorman. It's like, there's like a dying engine goes, brr, brr, brr, brr, right back to the Falcon. That sounded exactly like that. Every time I hear a dying engine, I think I noticed that. I think I noticed that. Right?

Yeah. I had another note that when they're stealing from the armory on Gorman, which apparently someone tweeted us that that might have been like an allegory for the French Revolution, or like the Nazis coming off after the French. Sure, there's a lot of real world stuff that they're like commenting on and doing their own Star Wars version of. But there was that one shot where they take the big crate and they throw it down like the sewer and you follow it down the sewer and it grabs it and then they throw it on the truck. It was just a very cool shot. I think that's all I had notes wise. I think hashtag for this week. What do we think about hashtag be cool Lonnie? I think it's L O N N I too. I think that's how you spell Lonnie. I'm pretty sure. There you go. I mean, honestly, the more I talk through this Andor arc,

the more I like it, maybe. Even talking about it just now was fun to talk about. And there was more to get into than I even thought. So I'm still in on it. We're halfway through the season. Is it slower than last season? Definitely. Do I still have faith that they're going to pick up and have

an awesome final six episodes? For sure. I got my faith in Tony Gilroy and the cast and crew. Yeah, you're kind of pot committed with a show like this and again three episodes a week actually does help because if this was week by week I think we would be really losing our minds. Now if fucking Kaliti comes down and she gets dressed as our by the minute, I'm gonna feel like we got Secret Wars all over again with mental soon just be like guys I don't know what to do it's not my

call I'm not the one she gets fucking that the new buff hut arm before the buff pot even gets it we're like where's that from the new movie she's actually a star wars character too as crazy as yeah fucking solo how about how about no more spiders for the rest of the season though we're probably not done with the there's that great death scene for Kate Blanchett where the fire ants come and like swarm her by the thousands and they eat her like what if the spiders eat fucking one of the the empires lead guys like that would be kind of cool. Yes I am interested to see who survives all this who gets because this is it it's this and then Rogue One right for the show so I am interested to see. And we still got K2SO watch he's joining the show at some point.

I'm interested to see what Imperials, you know, get dinged up or, you know, hit along the way. The Dejah stuff, the serial stuff. I think that's all really interesting. So yeah, the Gorman stuff, like I think back to that video or the Gormans and they're so happy and just where it's going to be. And I want to say, I am really excited to see how this all goes, but that was me. Like when I watched the first episode of Chernobyl, we go, man, people say this show credits of episode one. I said, I am never watching another show for the rest of my life. I didn't see the literal fallout from Chernobyl. And I was out.

I'm not even going to say I'm looking forward to the fucking tragedy of Gorman or whatever they call it, the fall of Gorman. But man, I think that has a chance to be great teamie, kind of like the prison scene was and some of the shit we get that about in season one. So we'll see, I'm going in with temperate expectations. I don't, I'm starting to think there's a chance we're not

hitting season one tights, definitely. This was, there's the arc people were most excited about too because this arc was written by the writer of the prison arc. Oh don't love hearing that. So Bob I'm not going to say it's a good chance, I'm going to say it's a decent chance. See there's other words, decent chance we're not hitting this the the heights of season one. I might be saying good chance by the end of next week. We'll see. We'll see and we'll talk chance by the end of next week. We'll see. We'll see and we'll talk to you tomorrow for Thunderbolts. We'll get more into the goods, the greats, the scale. I put together a little scale of where I think my goods and greats lie and stuff. I'll talk about that tomorrow on the Thunderbolts pod but for today be cool Lonnie

and we'll see you to talk about Thunderbolts tomorrow. Till then right? Is it till then? Till then. Till then. Till then. This and then like going off the talk about Thunderbolts tomorrow. Till then, right? Is it till then? Till then. This and then like going off the chest, like we have to watch.