My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 427 - THUNDERBOLTS* REVIEW (SPOILERS)

Episode Date: May 1, 2025

The Basement Boys discuss Marvel Studios' latest offering: #Thunderbolts! Robbie unveils his new ratings scale, Clem dominates the Fast Food Reviews as always - and get out those bingo boards because PLENTY of Dark Knight references get dropped in this one! #MarvelThunderbolts #MarvelStudios **************************************** My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike! Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement and a very special Thunderbolts edition of My Mom's Basement. The long-awaited movie has finally hit theaters. By now, I've seen it twice. Clem has seen it. We are pre-released, so we don't really know what the world thinks about it yet. We know the critics and the pre-screener people love it. 95% on Rotten Tomatoes. But here we are. We were talking about this day when we recapped and reviewed Captain America Brave New World and we called it Aggressively Mid. We think that Thunderbolt is going to be a little bit better than that one and we think Fantastic Four is going to be even better than Thunderbolt. We think that Thunderbolts is gonna be a little bit better than that one. And we think Fantastic Four is gonna be even better

than Thunderbolts. We think this is the start to our rise here. And I think Thunderbolts delivered on exactly that. Yep. You said it perfect. You called it solid. You said it was solid in the vid. Solid movie, which is a win for Marvel.

It feels like a huge win for Marvel. I think if Captain America, Brave New World was solid, I think we would have felt like a huge win for Marvel. I think if Captain America Brave New World was solid, I think we would have felt like that was a win too. But it feels like a little bit more of a win here because we're that much closer to Fantastic Four. We just had Born Again and this one had a lot less hype than I mean most Marvel movies when this got announced it was like, you know, this this could get bad. This could get a lot of criticism of the team, like the roster they selected. A lot of people were going, well, there's three just super soldiers.

Like you didn't pick people with other powers or anything like that. I know the abomination is a big part of the thunderbolts in the comics and stuff. I mean, Thunderbolt Ross is a big part of the thunderbolts in the comics. So there's a lot of criticism around it. Yeah. And a lot of people going, oh, Marvel's just trying to do a Suicide Squad thing. And it's like, they kind of are, but it's unique enough where I wasn't like, oh, this is just the Suicide Squad.

Well, let's be honest, too. They are picking these characters out of movies and shows that a lot of people didn't like, right? Black Widow, you have Falcon and Winter Soldier uh what else you have the villain from Ant-Man and the Wasp Ghost who like people didn't dislike by any means people like that movie for sure but I think most people considered her whatever Forgettable I actually always liked her I thought the phasing power and all of that stuff was cool but yeah it's a it's a lot of, Taskmaster herself, which we'll get

into, she was like the most hated part of Black Widow because of how much they changed about the characters' lore and the history and it's not like Taskmaster is and she doesn't have the skull mask and blah, blah, blah. But at the end of the day, I think they picked a really good roster because this is the roster that had the chemistry that these actors had. I wonder if they screen tested anyone else. I don't know if they do that. I'm sure the script was in the can much before screen testing happened, but was there any thought of you think putting Tim Roth in or putting someone else in?

We talked about it in the theater. We kind of, at least I expected some of those people to cameo in a quick scene. And this movie doesn't rely on cameos or any like cheap pops or any spectacle things like that. I think that's part of the reason why it's getting so praised by critics. Because critics will even look at a movie like Deadpool and Wolverine or Spider-Man No Way Home.

And they'll go, it's a spectacle fest, it's not a real movie. This feels like a real movie. This feels like a real movie with a real plot, everything advances, it makes sense. I'm looking here just kind of at the timeline of everything. July of 22 is when Feige said the film was in development. There was reported how Harrison Ford would join the cast.

So we had Harrison in there for a hot minute. Obviously with the Thunderbolt world stuff. Thunderbolt raw stuff. Steven Yan was you talked about was going to be century at one point. So you have to think in 22 when this got announced, we had a bunch of the stuff with a bunch of the characters we did not like or at least we did not like the shows and the movies they were in and Marvel was in 22 was probably about as dark as it got. Secret Invasion

which we'll cross that off the bingo board already but this is gonna be a big aboard episode we talked about it beforehand definitely a big aboard episode. Secret Invasion is probably the lowest but like before then you're like what the hell Endgame was just three years ago and all the different COVID and different issues we had along the way. So when they're like Thunderbolt is coming, it's like guys, you can't keep saying, is that is that what you're putting the chips in for like Thunderbolts is what you're betting on here. And it's like definitely a bet that is paying off word of mouth is so good. Everyone that's seen it seems to love I think here's the thing, the 95 on Rotten Tomatoes, as we mentioned in the last episode, is crazy.

It gives this expectation that it's one of the greatest Marvel movies ever, which it's not. I'm doing this right now. I'm not hitting the brakes on the 95%. I'm hitting the emergency brake where we're doing like Fast and the Furious skids. Like, I didn't even realize that it was at 95%. That's what I was gonna say. In the context of the Rotten Tomatoes scale,

which we've also talked about over and over again, it kind of makes sense to me because maybe this isn't the best Marvel movie, but I think it's one of the least bad. I know that's like the, I could pick a better adjective, but there's nothing to pick apart about the movie, in my opinion, after seeing it twice, two nights in a row, row where you could be like they kind of whiffed on that they could have done that better like there's good character development. There's good chemistry. There's good comedy. I know they swing a lot with the comedy in this movie, but I think 80 to 90% of it hits. I think a lot of it hits and it's not as big a swing as like a guardians even it's it's a little bit pulled back and

grounded from that it's a good simple story it's it's a good villain to be honest like villain you used loosely obviously it's like uh one of those things where it's just like an antagonist i guess you could say julie louis draifus is awesome and i love having her in the mcu i loved when she made her debut it was like oh shit she's gonna be in the MCU. This is great. And this is the first thing that I feel like she's really gotten to like sink her teeth into and get a ton of scenes for.

And she just fits like perfectly. It totally fits as the opposite Nick Fury kind of. She's putting together. She doesn't put them together, but kind of does in a roundabout way. Before we get into like the spoilers and stuff, I did wanna say I put together a scale. And when we're talking good and great,

I wanted to read off my scale. And now this isn't 100% final, but this is what I'm thinking in my mind, especially when I'm rating movies on Letterboxd, which some people see some of my ratings, especially for Thunderbolts. I gave Thunderbolts three and a half out of five stars on Letterboxd. And a lot of people hit me up and were like, Robbie, I was so excited. And now

I'm kind of bummed, like, you love everything and you're not even giving it four stars. And I'm like, well, let me put my scale in context for everyone. Okay. So I sent you this, Clem. And I said, I think I figured out this is my scale. A five-star movie would be perfect, all-timer, like one of my favorite movies. I think it's absolutely, wouldn't change a thing. Four and a half, phenomenal. I'll use that word, spectacular, tremendous. Probably another movie that I'll go back to

and rewatch a bunch. Or a movie like, I haven't rewatched this because I just watched it for the first time a few months ago, but like Heat. I remember I watched Heat Heat and I was like that's fucking four and a half right off the rip I loved it. Four great like I put Deadpool and Wolverine at four I put Guardians three at four like great we're trying to make the G word great again right so great. Three and a half, really good. That's what I'm giving Thunderbolts. Really good movie. Three, good. Two and a half, average. Two, meh. One and a half, okay, bad. Now we're in the bad range. And that's part of my scale on the curve.

I got to get down to one and a half for it to be bad in my mind. One, horrible. Half, unwatchable. Half I gave to like Joker 2. I wouldn't recommend that to my worst enemy. And then is there a zero? Is zero on the scale absolute dark, essentially? The void. Zero is the void. Zero would be a do not finish, I guess. Like I didn't even make it through the end of the movie or something. But when I put Thunderbolts three and a half, I don't want people to think like I thought it was average because that's definitely not average for me. Three and a half would be really good for me. It's really tough because I was

looking at some of the reviews that had come out. I think they had like a Reddit thread on all the reviews that had come out through the different publications and it's like four out of five, four to five, four to five. I'm like, is it a four out of five? Because in my book that's, it's like a four out of, and we're doing ball scale here, shout out the ball scale. We own it, the IP. I always think like if you have the Infinity Wars and you have like the end games which are the fives, then you have the next Cup below and then it's like the Guardians, like maybe Guardians 1 is for me as a four, where Guardians 2 is say a five or a four and a half because I absolutely love that movie. I'm like I can't get this up to there. It's almost like you need a 3.75 or it's like yes, it's

tied up in the middle. But I think solid for me, I guess would be like a seven out of 10, which is what a 3.5 out of five is. So it's like numbers. It's hard. It's the fucking internet. Everything's objective. You're gonna rewatch it three more times You're gonna have pride different opinions on it, but I'll use your airplane analogy We we finally have gotten into the like take the seatbelt signs off. We feel like everything is good Daredevil it's like they're giving you like some peanuts the peanuts were just fine. You're very happy. You're filling up You're feeling good And at this point they told the captains came on this loud speaker at the beginning of the fight said, Hey, we're going to have some bumps over Ohio. And you just look at the map and the

planet, you realize we've made it through Ohio and there were no bumps. Like there was no turbulence during Thunderbolts. And I, I see this as an absolute win. An absolute win. I do as well. Let's get into it spoiler wise now. So if you're not interested in getting this movie spoiled for you, which it's not like we're gonna spoil crazy things. Like I was also talking to Jake about this. Jake Bass from Barstool was at the screening last night.

And he was like, yeah, I didn't get anything spoiled for me. I was like, honestly, it's not like the most spoilable movie because it's, is or spoilable none of those are words but you know what I'm trying to say it's just the plot advances it's one thing happens to another and I guess you could talk about like century type stuff but everyone knew that was coming and I mean there's

one spoiler you could get off right off the rip so which I mean everyone we also knew this was coming I mean let's get into it taskmaster boom right off the bat I mean maybe 15 minutes into the movie maybe 20 minutes into the movie and it actually got like almost a shock cool in our like it got like that someone said oh it's like that which it could have presented itself like that. Someone said, oh, it's like that, which it could have presented itself like that if they hadn't announced the rest of the cast for the next Avengers movies. Like I actually thought the scene where they're fighting Sentry to skip head, we'll go back. But when he throws Red Guardian out the window and then pulls them

back in, I thought if we didn't know David Harbor was going to be in the next couple of movies, when he throws them out that window, there was going to be a second of, oh my God, is he about to kill Red Guardian in front of his daughter? Yeah, that definitely helped wrap everything up. It's kind of a little rogue one ish, right? With especially the chairs. You said that there was ghost pictures of ghosts fighting with taskmaster is like weapons or something like that. Yeah, she had her sword. Yeah. And like in the poster, someone quote tweeted it like, oh, so nice of Taskmaster.

It might be on this fucking thing. No, they put her on the box, which shout out again, Liam Crowley hosted the screen rent screening and they gave out popcorn in these Wheaties boxes, but they put her on all the promotional material, which also nice for that actress. She gets to go on these press doors and everything. She showed up for one day of work on that set. They show her face for one second. Yeah, that's true. Shout out to their agent, making sure you can cash that check too. Yeah. I will say based on what I heard about the task master in the comics, it seems like, let's say like, listen, we fucked this whole thing up.

We know we fucked it up. We're just gonna kill this taskmaster and we're gonna get another taskmaster maybe in the future. That is as sweet as the original one. But yeah, like if they don't do it, they don't do it. Whatever, I don't have a feeling either way about the character, but it sounds like people were religiously bummed how bad they fucked up the character.

So by just killing this one, it's basically like Marvel whatever this last phase was Marvel 2020 to 2023 Shot in the head dead. I mean is there any world in which When taskmaster got out of the red room and she no longer had to work, you know as a bad guy or whatever could she have found a love interest and guy or whatever, could she have found a love interest and she fell in love and then this guy fucking finds out that she died and he dons the Taskmaster outfit now, but he wasn't as good as she was in combat so he needs to download the intel of other people. Like you could definitely work out a way where Taskmaster is the villain of Thunderbolts 2 and that would be kind of sick.

And shout out to us. Full circle thing. I'm gonna just say it. I'm pretty sure we have spent more time on Taskmaster in this movie than any other podcast I've ever talked about. Than the movie spent on Taskmaster. Let's go back to the beginning.

Cause I wanted to shout out the first scene when Yelena starts with her, Yelena, they kind of say it like that in the movie. When she does the swan dive off the building, she fucking did that shit in real life. She didn't do the fucking parachute afterwards, they had her attached to a cable and everything. But Florence P wanted to take that leap, she took the leap. And then when she's walking out of the building,

they she has to destroy the evidence. And it's a cool scene. Like, they have that cool hall hallway shot where it's just you see her from above, but her shadow. You could see it like fighting very cool. Everything the way the movie was shot, beautiful, edited, awesome, like all of that behind the scenes technical stuff. A plus on this Thunderbolts. But when they blow up the lab, they actually like had that explosion in real life as well. Oh, we're blowing up the fucking building and we got one shot at this. So like action, here we go. And I love the little detail that she took

the Guinea pig out with her. He's like, fuck them, but I'm taking the Guinea pig. I would have minded if the Guinea pig was like, you know, in the post credits, right? Yeah. Oh yeah. She has a name for him that's very Marvel centric. I would have definitely enjoyed that. The guinea pigs in the, in the fucking cup holder of the limo or

something. Yeah. And like you said with like the editing and the way it all kind of flows. I said it, we're just discussing when the spoiler free on the previous podcast. The rap said this is the first MC moving gears that doesn't feel like a hack job. And that all plays into words like and like again, that's part of the reason why maybe the critics it's like Oh that just feels like a movie that was well done The person had a plan for a beginning a middle and an end and that's that's really all we want like We're gonna say it's good salad. Whatever. Maybe just give us something that makes sense pop us in the fucking uh

And it's like if all else fails just crack the glass in the post credit scene and give us some like if all else fails, just crack the glass in the post credit scene and give us some service or something that actually matters in the future. And you're going to make us happy. That's that. That was honestly the entire fucking formula for the old pre infinity war MCU that kept it, you know, kept the lights on and kept them humming.

And then obviously they hit another level with those, those two Avengers movies. And I feel like this is just getting back to basics for lack of a better term, you know, Bob, what we were in an IMAX theater and I remember the first time I was in an IMAX theater in the city that big old view of the building that Ariel shot oh yeah kind of reminded me of a movie Bob what would you say that is was it like Nolan 2008 like dark night, the bright day, no, the dark night. Yes. Oh, we can get into dark night moments later too, because we had a couple, we had a couple of moments during this movie where we turned to each other and real life was like dark

night. You think of what I'm thinking? F**king dark night. In the opening of Valentina, like her introduction, you see Bucky Barnes walk in, he has a funny, he's, you could see him trying to be a politician where he doesn't know how to answer questions he's like the worrying accusations are worrying and we're gonna see how we can get to the bottom of that worrying accusations yes and he walks in and they're talking about impeachment I thought they were talking about Thunderbolt Ross I thought they were talking about like we got to impeach the fucking president because he's the Red Hulk but they're talking about Valentina because she's the head of This the CIA at this point or something and she's she's got all the Oz corps stuff not Oz Corp

But they kept saying like odd something and I was like that fuck you up to it, right? Yeah Jacob too as soon as Jake left he was like you thought they were saying Oz Corp. I was like totally it was too close But it's got your guy from the wire. I don't know his name in The Wire, but you were immediately, you lit up. You're gonna love The Bunk and The Wire when you watch it. Yeah, you were happy to see him in this, I assume. And he did a great job. Like that panel that he's on, and then just a lot of the back and forths he had,

that felt like I could see him as a character. Like that probably, probably, I imagine, plays like a real character. Mr. Gary, was that his name? Mr. Gary. Yeah. Yeah, I think it was which is weird. If your last name is Gary and you're Mr. Gary, but then the name Gary is just apparently funny on its own. That's just funny. I'm sorry. It was SpongeBob calls a snail. He's like, Hey, Mr. Gary. Oh, really? Okay. There we go. It's Gary. But I think he's got to say that at some point. Yeah. So the bunk is awesome.

And that her there was another wire character. I think it was a wire character. Valentina is like right hand man who was like the she was in the wire. No, no, no. Her right hand man. So when she's like her her man, though, the hank or something like that, she's like, hey, go for lethal. Yeah, pretty sure that's Frank Sabaka season two gets a lot of hate, but I think it's, it's, it's such a good season. Everyone gives us so much shit because it is the first time you watch a season.

It's a big change. But when you rewatch, there are so many great parts. And some of our favorite parts of the wire are from season two, but we're not talking about the wire. I apologize. I just had to let that up. Um, and then Yelena goes talks to her dad, the Red Guardian intro, very funny, good door dash jokes, him brushing his teeth with the soap I thought was funny. And Yelena would she have, just to go back for a second, when the opening like fight scene, when she's talking to like the people, like the

lab security guard, and then the scientist and she needs a face everything Comedy was done. Well and the back and forth. I'm like, alright that settled me at first like alright We're in a good place and then yeah Her shooting the guy in the face and being like oh fuck I needed that face like that right off of that was good Yeah And did you notice in the first scene you can see like bodies voided in that lab? No, no I didn't notice that. I noticed it and I was like oh they gotta be coming back to that and they do in the end like the same it's it's on the table where I guess Sentry was.

Um good stuff with Red Guardian. I really buy Florence Pugh as Jim Hopper's daughter, David Harbour's daughter. Like they have such good chemistry. We're calling cross universes now? He's now Harbour's name? He's, oh yeah, yeah. I always confuse his real name with his, his stranger things name

because I just think they're one and the same now. They are, I don't care. David Harbour is such a fake name, it's Jim Hopper. Yeah. And then Valentina gives everyone one last assignment and we get to the dark night scene like immediately when it's ghost walking in and she's like, yeah, I have someone fucking there for you and you know, okay, this is where they're all going to meet and turn on each other and eventually team up. I turned to you as like, Oh, everyone's getting this assignment, right? You like, yeah,

it's like the dark night. It's like the opening of the dark night. Everyone's got each other. Like, oh my God, it is like dark night. Yes, and this rocked like great action scene This was the one that I need a fucking chiropractor for and 40x because oh my god every hit We were like, oh my god, my headphones came off But it was literally like we had to hold on for dear life and we couldn't believe how much we were getting hit. The coolest shot and I think it was in the trailer is when the knife gets thrown and ghost phases and it goes through her and she catches it on the other end. Really cool. And this is where Bob gets introduced as well. The Bob jokes very funny.

I'm going to have a thousand new Bob memes when this hits digital, like gifts, videos, clips, everyone's making Bob jokes. Liam after the screening was saying he's like, you kind of got the bob hair too. So maybe I could do a Bob. And this was what I was saying in our original video. I think Lewis Pullman was a blessing in disguise, like Steven, you and Steven, Yen, Steven, young, I don't know how to say his last name. I'm a huge fan. Going back to The Walking Dead, I was a Steven Youn stan. Literally, I was like, when Glenn's dead, I'm out. When Glenn died, I was out. I didn't watch the show anymore. I love him in Invincible. I know he's like a much more established actor than Lewis Pullman. I think that would almost be a detriment to the century role though. He's 10 years older than Lewis Pullman

I think having someone younger less recognizable was the right move and he crushed it. I thought Lewis Pullman was awesome Yeah, I don't have as much of a Input on Steven yet, I guess as you do but Pullman and again when you told me it was it was Bill Pullman's son I kind of just been like, oh, yeah see it. I like kind of just reminded myself about Bill Pullman I love Bill Pullman. Shout out Bill Pullman. We're gonna it was Bill Pullman's son, I kind of just being like, oh, yeah, see it. I like how to just remind myself about Bill Pullman. I love to shut up. Shut up. We're gonna shut up. I said this to Lady Fox too. I was like, I gotta be honest. I know people **** on Nepo babies. If I like the dad or the mom, I generally just root for the kid. I'm not an

anti-Nepo baby guy. This one, I was like, alright, Nepo baby worked out. I'm a I'm a **** Bob Stan now. We've got an MCU hero it's constantly being called Bob I got new gifts also this happens to me sometimes and I have to admit on the pod I'm not happy about it but this does happen during the movie I was thinking man it's too bad his dad passed away because Bill Paxton passed away and I always get Bill Pullman and Bill Paxton confused and I love them both and I remember in Twister I love Bill Paxton in Twister Bill Paxton in actually true lies might be the greatest like side character in the history of side characters unbelievable I haven't seen true lie I saw it on TV so many years ago that's

one I deserve it it deserves a rewatch for me. Yes get it without the TV because a lot of the stuff They probably censored. It's much better. Yeah in and Jimmy Cameron is cooking in that movie And the comedy is through the roof, but Bill Pullman I love the line fucking stuff fucking presidency the benestase speech right there, right? So I love Lewis Pullman in the role That whole scene I was waiting for the bus. I got the bus driver. Boom, bus driver comes in, knocks Bob over, and then we have the bank heist in Dark Night.

But that was like an underrated like, okay, the action scenes were gonna be all right. We had the first one with Yelena, which the action scenes, that was all right with that one. The second one, I was like, all right, we're good. You know, the incinerator's coming. you don't know if Ghost is gonna come back. They kind of leave you on the edge of your seat with a lot of stuff. Yeah, and I liked the escape sequence. I liked how long the escape sequence was. I really took note of it on the second viewing. Like, almost half the movie is just like them getting out of this place.

But by the time they do get out and they're in the desert and shit, the movie's like an hour in. It's really impressive how much it like flows and how you're never really bored with it, but it's really just them fighting, realizing what's happening, kind of pseudo teaming up because they have to to get out of the elevator. And that's a funny sequence as well, going up the elevator. And then you get the little glimpses and teases of what the void can do When they get out of the incinerator room Florence Pugh has that first flashback to her first assignment in the forest where she

Fucking got her friend assassinated then later on John Walker sees his wife yelling at him about the kid He's looking at and I was also thinking that might be a meme too people are gonna Photoshop fucking Metzlue's game and John Walker is depressed and it's like he's not even looking at his baby And I was also thinking that might be a meme too. People are gonna Photoshop fucking Met's lose game and John Walker is depressed and it's like he's not even looking at his baby. That's a pretty good one. Though also the way that the characters like interact with each other,

I was like, oh shit, I hated John Walker the entire show. And I already like him more in like this elevator scene. You know, he plays the hard old dickhead that everyone hates but he does a good job. But you're like, I'm kind of warming up to him a little bit. Ghost. I mean, I guess I'll just my ghost. They really didn't advance all that much. I like looking back now. I don't know. She had the least amount of screen time probably to like,

yeah, she was she was a good member of the team for like aesthetics, cool power to cool to have someone that has a power. But probably the least amount of like character development. But it's like, you know what, like you have her there and maybe events or maybe not every character has to become a thousand times better, more likable. But she was perfectly fine. So and like you said, it's like, all right, we got her on our side. And she's pretty fucking good to have on our

side. And then they had that whole thing where they're climbing up and using each said, it's like, all right, we got her on our side and she's pretty fucking good to have on our side. And then they had that whole thing where they're climbing up and using each other, the sneeze stuff, all that stuff. That's good. Cucumber, cucumber, cucumber. When they're all yelling at him. That was really funny. The scene between Bob and John Walker, where he's like, John Walker's like, I think we should fucking throw him back in there. He's like, you're Captain America. He's like, Yeah, why would that be funny? He's like, because you're an asshole. What's going on? Like, that stuff was all good. I liked the immediate connection and like relationship between Yelena and him. Because he was like, you could just leave

me down here. I think it'd be better for everyone. And she was kind of like, dude, the fuck's going on? Like, let's get up there. And then you do what you got to do and she was definitely the right call to lead a movie like this like she feels like a leading character in an ensemble movie almost and i'm a huge anthony mackey fan but almost more than anthony mackey felt like in his own movie that's that's probably a fair point the way it wouldn't have made like she couldn't lead one with like the real, like the OG Avengers, right? It would have felt very odd. But with this team, she does fill that role and Florence Pugh in real life has

become such a big star. It's like, all right, that makes sense. And honestly, there's something about the way she says Bob that just works. And I'm like, she's so soothing. And I'm like, I'm not Bob, but I'm pretty sued by her voice. And I trust her right now. And I'm sure this is what Bob is going through knowing Bob's price super fucking powerful. And when he if he goes crazy, there's only one person I trust to turn Bob back

into Bob. And it's that sweet little fucking Russian voice. Part of the escape sequence, I noted that it's just a another, I guess, trope that I love about movies or TV or whatever When people come in the SWAT team comes in and they get the laser sight the laser pointers Love that shit every time like oh, I love the laser pointers. I such a cheap thing, but I love it And then Bob's powers are revealed so they do the escape they go out in the gear and whatnot and then Bob causes the distraction. This whole sequence where they're on top of that, like the vault that's on top of a mountain

and they have the big lights and all the SWAT trucks felt so Spielberg to me. It felt like we were watching almost the end of Close Encounters or something like that where it just felt huge in scope. I thought the Bob scene was cool where he obviously doesn't have control of his power so he flies all the way up and just crashes down. Another one, this was probably the hardest hit of 4DX. Oh yeah. When Bob crashes down and you feel a shockwave, I think I got whiplash from it. It was crazy. I'm telling you, they need seatbelts in those things. But I like this sequence. I think I got hit by like the theater just, I was even in 4D, but like the theater sounds like boom when he hits. Yeah. I'm like they hit by like the theater just, I was even in 40, but like the theater sounds like boom,

when he hits. Yeah. And I'm like, they're letting you know just how much of a thud that was and the fact he survives it is gonna be all that more impressive for the people when they find him. This is, again, you're throwing Spielberg close encounters, like, fuck it, let's throw another classic movie

and compare it to Thunderbolts. I mean, I love when the superheroes dress up in the other guy, in like the bad guy stuff, and then they don't just get out. It's like, hey, what's your number? Hey, what's this? And it's like in New Hope where they're like, what's your, what does he say?

What's your code or whatever? Yeah, I love the like, the family guy parody of that scene is so good. Like, how are you doing? Good, how are you?? Good. How are you? And he's like, not good, man. Peter starts hosting a dating show right on the fly there. They do an end game, right, where Tony Stark goes down

and the fucking swat gear and everything. And I love it. It's played very well. We're like, identify yourself. John Walker's got nothing. He goes, no, no. That's that stuff is so simple, but it works. And it, the humor definitely hit more so than, I think we said Brave New World, there was a lot of like humor

that just made no sense or didn't hit. The humor was back in this one. Which is important, I think, with these Marvel movies. It's still fucking a comic book movie that's supposed to be fun at the end of the day. And listen, I don't want to keep bringing up the last Jedi. I know it's a sore subject I'm doing it again because I know people are gonna feel the same way the scene where they're all shooting Bob They're lighting him up

And then they shoot from behind such a well like Seen shot is that the staged shot such Such a well staged shot shot. All the lights are there. They're coming towards the camera and Bob stands up and then you can tell he's got a fucking six back and he's jacked and everything. That's straight up Luke Skywalker at the end when Kylo Ren's going more, more, and he stands out hits the fuck and you got nothing. That really reminded me of that. And I thought it was funny when Julia Louis-Dreyfus grabbed the walkie talkie during this. Probably a hundred bullet holes into Lewis Pullman's body and she's like, seize fire, seize fire. At that point, either she knew like he's one of the more superheroes we've ever had, or it's like, lady, he's

dead. Like the sea is fire. You don't even have to yell. But all of that was good. And then it's played really funny as well when Red Guardian shows up for the save and he's dead like the seas fire You don't even have to yell but all of that was good and then it's played really funny as well when red guardian shows up For the save and he's fucking honking the horn and it's a limousine. You could tell it's a limousine eventually and Florence Puget fucking puts her head in her hands. He's like no no. Oh, no. Oh, no so funny We so we've all been there when our parents are showing up at the absolute worst time And that's why like it's so believable the way she plays that and everything, every interaction she has when he starts telling stories, she's just like, no stop. It made it feel real. Like they really do it. They really do a good job with that. Would you say, so I didn't watch VEEP. Is this VEEPish Julia Louis Dreyfus here? I feel like this is kind of

her character a little bit without maybe as much as smooth around the edges. It sort of is. I'm like six episodes into Veep. We started it like a few months ago. I thought you watched the whole thing. I thought you were... No, no, no. No, I mean, I love Julie Louis Dreyfus from Seinfeld and random roles here and there, but only just started Veep. Okay. Also the... random roles here and there, but only just started Veep. OK, also the question we sent in for the you guys let us know if she's the character, but less well rounded because she's like Valentina is kind of flying by the seat of her pants in a lot of this stuff.

Right. Yeah. And a big part of the movie is her like assistant as well. That's who I thought you were referencing from the wire before. It's like, no way was she like fucking in the wire, dude She's like totally fine character like serves her purpose and is fine with it But there's a funny joke going back to one Red Guardian right before he picks him up where they John Walker says something kind of corny. She's like great work. Dr. Phil and he's like don't call me that and he's going back and forth He's like, yeah, I took him off cable, but he's probably in YouTube or something now. Like that little like at the end of the scene is they're trailing up. I thought that was

such a funny joke that in both screenings really hit. Anyway, as we say that was that hit on our screen. And he's like, you know, it was a good show. And then kind of got cancelled off air, but maybe it's on YouTube. And then you get one of the more badass sequences in the movie and definitely the one that made the theater cheer the most, especially the second night. Theater went fucking wild. It's them driving away in the limo and you get a funny back and forth.

They talk about the Thunderbolts name, which I was shocked that like Thunderbolt Ross is in the MCU. We're saying that Thunderbolts name had nothing to do with that. It was the West Chesapeake Thunderbolts soccer team. It was a weird choice. There's the only thing where I was like, I wasn't an issue in the movie at all. I was just like, huh, weird. I wanted to know why the asterisk was there.

That's the one thing that I was the ending is. Oh, okay. I saw the end of the movie. That ain't their name. Got gotcha. Okay. That makes sense. I actually kind of liked it because it did definitely zag where I thought it was going

to zig. Yeah. And it's thunder, you know, I thought they were going to be against it. And that's why they had the asterisk. But I liked it. And I like the difference between whether it was the tire guy who Sergey or whatever. And then the girl that pooped that was for that. Someone pooped once it was crazy. I was yelling at the referee. He's yelling that but this is what what had the theater cheering of course they start getting attacked and he accidentally throws on fucking like the genuine switch and the smoke hits and that was funny. And then Bucky Barnes comes in

for the save in such a badass way. It was actually, if I could compare it to a movie, it reminded me of the dark night when the kids are going, QQ, QQ, QQ. And then the bat pod blows up all those cars and they're like, what the fuck did we do that? Florence Pugh comes out of the side of the car. She fires one bullet and a car explodes. She gets back in the car and looks at David Harbor like what the fuck was that it's Bucky Barnes and the reveal of him on this fucking motorcycle shooting these plates that explode had the theater going nuts almost gives me chills just talking about it right now because he looks like the fucking Terminator especially when he pulls the shotgun out of the one one of the cars and just fucking cocks it with one hand

It had to be on purpose in my mind He is the fucking half-man half robot machine whatever but I was like, oh my god They gave Bucky a badass and then he grabs the cable Slams it down the limo fucking flips after that cuz he shoots the limo with one after that Which I'm a limo flips it looked a lot like the 18 Wheeler that flipped in the dark night. Thunderbolt asterisk asterisk says actually dark night to the dark night. Yeah, no Batman or any big. But if you're going to take inspiration, take it from the best.

And this whole scene fucking rocked. It was so good. Another one that rocked me in a 4DX. Oh, yeah. And then he takes them in because they could be, and again, it was just something that made so much sense. He's like, all of you guys are witnesses against Val in the fucking trial, in the impeachment trial.

So I need to bring you in. And Bucky working as the Senator and the Winter Soldier and trying to find the balance balance and by the end of it, it kind of feels like he's like, all right, I think I got to go back to superhero and it was good. And even her trying to develop Century because the Avengers aren't around anymore. And she's like, I could fuck and maybe step up and take credit. Everything made sense. All the motivations were there. The Bucky stuff is funny with the packets. When he's like, read the packets, Bucky.

And then he's late night reading the packets, spills the shit all over his arm, throws them in the dishwasher. Like they did a lot of good stuff that I also didn't expect. I didn't expect Bucky to get not as much like he didn't get as much screen time as I expected. He I said to you, he kind of felt like the Rick Flag of the group if anything he's the the cop bringing the group together. Yeah but at the same point I feel like every scene he had was like it's crazy to say like Elena was definitely the leader of the group but I felt like if you're doing like if they were wrestlers it felt like he

was the closest thing to a headliner that they had. Yeah, absolutely. He's, I'm not saying Bucky is in the fucking World Heavyweight Championship, but like maybe Intercontinental, which again, Bucky doesn't really get that kind of, I mean, think about all the other movies he's in, he's like C tier, D tier, like I'm talking more Avengers stuff, but it's like the price of the Sebastian, listen man, we're gonna get you in Captain America and it's gonna, you'll have a a couple scenes they'll be alright. But like that movie is kind of that movie. But when you're in Thunderbolt and they probably showed him this motorcycle scene they're like it's gonna fucking rule you're gonna have some Terminator vibes and the crowds gonna go crazy. I'd like to the arm in the dishwasher. I'm a big dishwasher. I said if you try to sell

me a glass or a mug or a player, whatever that is not dishwasher safe. You can fucking stop wasting your time. I guess I'm with you, right? I guess anything's dishwasher safe if you have the balls for it or don't care about it. But I do care about my dishwasher. I don't want to have to get a new one. And the fact that they had his arm dishwasher safe, I think is fucking great. That's fucking what condensate the install that right. That was, I think it was Waconda dishwasher safe, I think is fucking great. That's fucking what condens had to install that, right? That was I think it was Wakanda. Yeah, I take it back.

I was going to say wait American Russian and then someone did bring in the the facts. They were like the top three Marvel movies on Rotten Tomatoes Endgame Black Panther and Thunderbolts. What's the one thing they have in common? Sebastian Stan. Wow. He could be the guy. Sebi, Sebi just catching Ws right now. My mom called me up and I told her about the movie. She goes, oh, that's what that,

that actor he was in the Donald Trump movie. And she's like, and what does she say? She didn't say anything. She said Sam. I don't know. Stan Sebastian. She said, oh yeah. So I'm like, Sebastian Stan's being known as the guy from this movie with like eight different actors. Good for him, man. Good for him. People have said that in terms of maybe not in terms of box office, but in terms of like good choices, good performances, that he might be one of the best MCU actors outside of the

MCU. Like someone that really got their fame from the MCU and then went off to do actually great movies. He's got a lot of them on his resume. I have a quick take about just because it had to do with the scene as well. And I don't think I'm alone, but I just want to hear your thoughts. I think writing in like an old school limo like the one they ride, like obviously not a beat up one, but just regular limos like that is tacky and corny. Those things. Yeah. And that gin, everything has the genuine with the lane lights. And you're just like, God, I don't want to think what was done in this last Saturday night and all the

proms and gross bachelor parties that have brought whatever debauchery has taken place here. I just feel like skeeved out by them. And I guess if you get like a party bus or maybe like a giant SUV version, it's kind of still the same, but it's just better. We're like those limos. I I associate with like the 1980s. You know, oh, yeah, very nice. And maybe they had those vibes, especially because Red Guardian Cold War and shit. And I loved the decal on the side of his limo. It was like, protect you from boring evening.

That was good. Then you get the Bob and Valentina stuff back at revealed Avengers tower. She's bought it. We pretty much knew from the trailer and everything. But she goes and talks to him in that fucking padded room. Basically, he starts honing his powers. Then you get the Thunderbolts going to New York. that was a funny scene too and Bucky's on the phone they're all trying to tell him about Bob he's like enough about Bob and he's like Bob they're all like Bob yes Bob yeah yeah yeah yeah so they have the team-up scene I loved it really it was in the trailer but it made me laugh in the movie and context and everything David Harbors just sheer his guttural

scream of yeah it's like we're going to glory, we're getting the glory. And then them going to New York just seeing the area around Avengers tower again, right by Grand Central and them crashing into it. All of that stuff had Avengers 2012 vibes and had kind of like, kind of felt like that first movie a little bit they go up they fight century. Great action scene. He beats the ever living shit out of all of them. It was one of those things where everyone was like,

how do you fight against that when he's fucking blacking out people into the pavement? You really don't. How do you fight against him? You really don't. They called him Earth's mightiest hero. His view is look his entire outfit exactly like the comics it looks so like perfect the blonde hair jokes were great because he comes out in blonde hair and i'm like they better acknowledge that right change hair color like super saiyan or something i know they do that in dragon ball z but what's going on i loved all this shit i mean down to bucky standing up at the

end of that fight throwing the punch getting caught and then he just Rips the arm off and tosses it and tossing the arm was so disrespectful Yeah, I like how he just wiped the floor at them But also was like I'm not gonna murder you and I'm yeah I like let you know I can kick the living shit at you and then immediately is like the fact You know like yeah, and you're nothing to me. I am a god basically so get the fuck out of here The David Harbour guttural scream. I almost would have liked it and this is it's not even a nitpick It's just I thought it would be funnier if

They he did like a one full scream and then in mid second scream is when they cut it I think they should have cut it during the first scream because you just As soon as you hear you're like, oh i'm so happy for this fucking yeah And when you cut those screams off early, I always feel like that's a great, uh comedic, uh thing that people do sometimes So I loved it. That was that was a great callback He's one i'm gonna put put this out there in the universe right now. I don't want this to happen He's one I could see them for real killing off in one of the next Avengers movies because he's so likable in this movie that it's like, are they going to he's gotten too much. He finally got his glory and then they pull it.

But like you Lena can't go through another death like that right now. Right. Like she needs a little bit. Yeah, she can't go through it now, but it's almost like she will be due for enough. It's like Scarlet Witch. It's like she has to really dig her claws into how much she loves being with her dad again to then get taken away to then get like full blown. Should I beep that? Should I beep that? People that didn't watch? Yeah, I'll beep that part. I referenced the show that you might not even have to be able to probably don't know what the hell you're talking about if you don't say anything, but I don't know.

I'm willing to go to the editors and I'm going to be but I'm going to be but just because I you know, I don't want to spoil anything for anyone ever. Good fight scene again. And then when they go up, Valentina is that that exchange that you mentioned where he's like, I'm a god. She's like, you throwing that G word around a little loosely. She gets on G word watch for a sec. She begs you word watch. And he has a great retort. He goes, well, you just said that I'm stronger than all of the Avengers combined. And they've got at least one God. So it's like fucking lawyered. You just got got Valentina.

She goes to the kill switch on him. He senses he's like, you're about to turn on me and fucking starts to get a little evil there. And then the assistant hits the kill switch. And as they walk away, his body blacks out and just the eyes light up. And I know that's how he looks in the comics and everything. It reminded me of that video game limbo, which was like a strategy game. So creepy, like all of a sudden, for the first hour of the movie kind of just feels like an action movie. Doesn't necessarily feel like a superhero movie. And then once the sentry stuff happens, once the sentry fight, or you know, his powers get exposed really, then it really ramps up the superhero shit.

And it just gets awesome from here. The Thunderbolts save a bunch of civilians on the ground from the wreckage that he causes as the void, when he voids out the helicopter and then the helicopter goes into the building and everything crashes down. This scene where they block all the civilians from getting hit by the wreckage and then they have that giant slab,

which twice now, I've thought the same thing. They have this slab and they're pushing it and five of them show up and it's nice to see all of them assembled. And then they flip it over and nobody looked on the other side. Someone could have been standing on the other side. Why don't they just put it down lightly? Gently put it down.

But listen, the Thunderbolts aren't the Avengers. We can't be asking them of an A-plus performance on their first day on the job, I guess. Bob, I almost leaned over to you during the movie and said, what if there was someone on the other side? Actually, launch it, right? I almost leaned over to you during the movie and said, what if there was someone on the other side? actually Launch it right? I would like I would kind of like it if There were like when the thunderbolts are doing stuff They do kind of fuck up other stuff like I don't want like a kid to be on the other side of it

But it's like you didn't look at the other side and maybe you crush the one's leg and hey I was just about to say maybe the leg is something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I thought that would be really funny. It's kind of like where the guardians, they they they they save the day but then they fuck something else up and then they're scrambling to and red guardian could be like sorry first day first day you know you can make a joke out of it and that could be really good. But when when they get a clap from all everyone around Grand Central last night at the screening the theater started a fucking clap. Whoa! Like people in the theater were like, we're proud of these guys.

And it's all obviously the opposite of what Valentina wanted when she called the press to the building. They were supposed to be the bad guys and Century's supposed to be taking them down. But now the whole public has seen, this is a team that's helping us. And Red Guardian spots a little girl.

There's a giant boulder about the header runs over to her, takes the brunt of it, breaks around him. And the little girl gets voided out immediately. And both screenings, people are like, oh, oh, oh, my God. Like people were gasping. It's played so well. And then that's where the void really starts spreading over the city. Cool looking again.

What is rent in New York city in the house? Right. Because it has to be the lowest in the entire world. Right. Because you can't go two days without a disaster, destroying your apartment. And, and like this one's spelled felt especially like haunting and daunting because I'm just like, Oh, New York City is just gone. Like everyone in it is just essentially gone. And this one, this is the first time in a while where a villain actually had me

sick to my stomach. I'm like, we can't beat this guy. We can't beat this guy. And this guy is just going ham on us right now. We are just getting our asses beat and that girl disappearing. Well, guttural reaction. Like that was something that I almost want to go see it again just to hear the reactions for that. And listen, I'm letting Feige know this now. If there's another Tony Stark funeral, you're gonna have all the different characters from the MCU

and you throw a fucking rando like you did with the Iron three Iron Man three kid. Let it be this girl because we loved we felt so awful and our hearts were broken for this girl. She needs to also wear a sign around and I feel like girl who got I am the girl from Thunderbolts. And I you know what if she's at the funeral of whoever this may be I'll be like, you know what I'm happy. She's like, hey baby, pray guardians funeral.

God forbid and that will knock on wood, knock on wood, clap one of the same obvious poll is Tony Stark. But you know, it would be nice to be like, I like his glory. I want to see that girl grow up and like, I'm just happy she's back because that was such a fucked up moment. And hey, credit to Marvel for for doing that. Because that takes a little bit of balls to like just straight You don't know where she's going, but it's just like what the fuck and I thought and I was like sucks for those helicopter idiots

They're gonna be like the only people who really get hit by the sentry until we stop them. Yeah, and then I was like Oh, no, everyone's fucked. We might also It seemed like at the end everyone kind of just like came back to where they got voided What's going on with those helicopter guys? Where are they coming back to? That is a good question because I was thinking like what and I was like did anything really change helicopter guys definitely have their fucks Just vanish big they show up back in the sky and they start falling That's like all the people that they say were flying during the blip. Yeah That's maybe maybe they've built nets in place for the event of another blip or something.

Everyone just has like a parachute in their shirt that automatically opens because of the blood. The scene before the the little girl void stuff where they get into the the back and forth, not fight but screaming match about how upset and depressed Yelena has been all the bad things she's done, and how David Harbour hasn't been there for Red Guardian hasn't been there for great stuff, like felt so believable when she's like, all I do is I look at my phone, I think of the bad things I've done I drink like, it just came off so genuine, in a moment where you needed it to because it's like,

all right, you've done a lot of comedy. Now let's get a fucking emotional hook in the movie right before the climax, which is that big dream sequence. Part of the thing I loved about the dream sequence, she goes into the void. And that was another thing where I was like, she didn't know if she was going to live or they're like, she might've thought she was dead there. But she took the shot, went into the void, and everyone follows her in. She meets up with Bob and we get a glimpse into Bob's childhood. Thought it was a really neat detail

that Bob's abusive dad calls him Bobby. And that was what John Walker, US agent, was calling him the whole movie. And you could see him getting a little annoyed every time he said Bobby. And it was his dad, the only person in the movie to call him Bobby, the only two people are those two. So I thought that was cool, like a little detail.

And then we see, you gotta over to beat the void, you gotta overcome this mentally. The whole movie is kind of about overcoming like mental health struggles, I think. It's kind of all an allegory for that. You go, you still- That wolf Disney's doing it again. Yeah. See the void like at the end of that lab hallway. I mean, there's also one thing in the

sequence when they show the chicken with sign. I was like, All right, this is a really serious scene. And they're showing the chicken ridiculous. It's not like it doesn't take me out of it. But I was like, Oh, we're doing the chicken. Okay. And then as Bob is fucking beating the hell out of the void, the rest of the characters telling us not the way to beat him and they all grab them. The first showing as soon as they all grabbed Mike lean to claim I go I gotta fucking piss before the post credit. It was the

most I've had to pee in my life. So I ran out. Thankfully, a second showing it came back and of course saw what came of this and Bob forgets everything. And then they get tricked into going on into a presser by Valentina. Amazing the way she tricks him, the way they're like walking after her, they're about to arrest her, they think they're all badass. And then they're in front of the public being announced as the new Avengers. And the last thing we see is Yelena leaning into her ear and being like, you know, we own you now, right? Like, this is our fucking squad. You

just announced this as the New Avengers. And a great way to end it, I love the credits that it switched to Thunderbolts, and then it said the New Avengers, reminded me of Falcon and the Winter Soldier credits, switching to Captain America and the Winter Soldier. Like, that was a cool moment. Yeah, and we said, like, all the different magazine covers

and stuff they had in newspapers. Yeah. That stuff that I would love to see them have, I don't know if't think you sell it, but it was like, oh, that's funny. And, you know, everyone, not my Avengers, which if like if they tried to promote these guys as the real Avengers, I can't even imagine the outrage that would go on. And I'm actually kind of just see like there's people who don't realize that it's clearly not going to happen like that. Well, they joke about that in the post credit scene, too. They're like, well, oh, yeah, it's fucking Sam Wilson trademarked the name. And then they're like, well, well, who's going to be the real Avengers

if we're both the Avengers? And I think John Walker's like, according to all of the memes I have been reading online on us that and I remember earlier in the fight, I'm like, oh, so then the media will show up and be like, oh, these guys are the heroes. And the fact that they are like, nope, that's not happening. But we are going to get you with the media hook. You're just not going to see it coming. And they completely blindsided me with that.

I was just like the idiot Thunderbolts walking right into the presser. So they definitely did a great job of setting all that up. So I appreciated that. Also, I was also like, and again, this is like just my brain. I'm not criticizing Plop, but I'm like, how are they like the only four people in New York and they're like fighting through different rooms

and they're able to find Bob, but no one else can find Bob. So I was very confused about that all over, but like, okay. At that point, Harrison Ford, it ain't that kind of movie. Yeah, exactly. But I also loved when she announces them

as the new Avengers, a subtle moment in that scene that really made me laugh is Bob on the side clapping for them. Yeah, that was good. That was good. And him not remembering anything, I believe, is a play on his origin in the comics, which is that he was one of the original Avengers, and all of them got mind wiped.

And they don't remember him being a part of the squad. This is in the comics, not the show or in the MCU. A lot of people thought would they retcon Avengers 2012 and be like, he was there the whole time. They're not doing that. I'm interested to see how comic book fans will take that. Like I think some people will be upset just because you're changing anything,

you're changing the origin. But I think the way they introduced him in this movie made a whole lot of sense and was just it worked for the MCU like this. This was kind of fitting for him, I think. Yeah, I mean, it's separate entity. So I mean, I'm fine with it. You're gonna people are gonna be upset about everything. Yeah, no matter what, I think they did what they had to do. And I think it fits their world. Again, I really would have loved to have seen another the iconic shot of the Avengers, but it's like Thunderbolt C where he's in the middle of her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like there is some sort of a way where you got that because that

was such a moment. That's the moment. The first event. It would be funny if they started a circle up and someone like fucks them up. So the circle like stop mid shot. Yeah. Or something that's hitting the head with a piece of the break. I think it could have been funny, but that was just something that I made. I also called it. I was like, I'm calling it now at wrong. We're gonna put that one as an L. And then we got first post credit scene, a funny one where it's Red Guardian,

the grocery store showing another shopper, the Wheaties box. He's kind of like, I'm on the Wheaties box. And she just runs away puts it down. Very funny. But it turned to you. I was like, next one better be fucking good with the way people are hyping it. And next one was really good. It was what we mentioned a couple seconds ago, where we were talking about the trademarking of the name, the new Avengers logo that a fire, I love it. I think that was really cool, modern kind of different twist on it. And then Red Guardian walks out in the NASCAR

style jumpsuit with new Avengers with a Z like no Avengers with a Z. He's got all the sponsors on the side. He's got tied on the side. He's got a fucking barber stall and he had Wheaties was a sponsor on one of the sleeves Told everyone on the team. I got he said, uh, it's soft like baby seal Which was great like fucking David Harbour accent work and then they get a notification Incoming ship into the into the stratosphere We look at the ship if you've seen the fantastic for trailer you might recognize it because it spins around

reveals the four. Big, big pop in both theaters. People were going nuts for that. I kind of sniffed it out though in the credits, Clem, because the last song they list for the movie says, Fantastic Four theme by Michael Giacchino in the credits before this post credit scene. I was like, what was that? It said Michael Giacchino Fantastic Four theme that wasn't

in the movie. I knew it wasn't in the movie. And there you go. Our tease for the Fantastic Four and we did get the Thunderbolts and Bob will return. Or was it the Avengers? The new event? Oh, was it the new? It was? Yeah, it was the new Avengers. And it was Yeah, and Bob will return. And the the end Bob got like one last laugh Out of the theater, too. Yes, so I think we can agree that this is my guess. I guess not agree. My guess is that That fans of Fantastic Four is coming into this universe and whatever happens in their universe

they somehow got out and they're coming into the MCU I think if if if if Fantastic Four had never been announced and that was the reveal. I think that would have hit the holy **** level of like hype. I was getting for what this post is going to be the fact that they've already obviously gotten them into this is like oh **** now we're we're here baby. Fantastic Four is in our

MCU. So I definitely understand, big thing. But again, just on the hype level, I think for it to hit that level, for it to hit what people were saying, I think that would have had to been the kind of reveal where it's like, no one knows. And we've been like, oh shit, Thanos has the gauntlet now. It's like, oh shit, Fantastic Four is here.

And then the next, you know, Monday, they're like Pedro Pesci, I guess they would probably announce the casting in the movie maybe a little bit afterwards but something like that I think could have been a bigger oh fuck moment but still like it's still obviously a massive moment for the MCU and still a really good when you put it in the grand scheme of post credit scenes we've gotten so many especially in this phase with fucking Roy as Hercules we got Harry Styles as a random cat we've've gotten so many, Kate Blanchett,

I think it was Kate Blanchett or whoever. Charlize Theron as a random Doctor Strange guy. There's so many fucking random ones. This one was kind of like, all right, MCU, fantastic for introduction. And it kind of teases the first scene that they're gonna have in Doomsday. I would presume based on this, will be them and the Thunderbolts together, which will also be intriguing to see.

Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I don't know how it's all gonna go. But and again, you said you're like, I'm excited to have the Thunderbolts back. Yeah, which is something that you may not have been able to say like when the movie was announced in 22, or even before this movie and now it's done. The trailers did a good job getting it hype. The reviews took it a lot of the way. And whoever made the movie, I don't even know the director, did a good job getting us there. Let me shout out that I think his name is Jake Schreiber.

Jake Schreier, Jake Schreier. It's a weird name, but he was the guy that did in Paper Towns, which is like a young adult movie. And then I believe he did Beef, show with Steven Yuen who which everyone loves he won a bunch of Emmys I think he might have won a Golden Globe for it as well he did a great job with this movie overall very happy with the end product I will be rewatching Thunderbolts pretty often, I think. Like fairly often in terms of how often I rewatch Marvel movies, I like to throw them on

in the background while I'm doing stuff. This is one that moves quick. That's like what I look for, whereas a movie that doesn't really have any downtime or boring scenes, there's none in Thunderbolts. It's just a solid movie, solid. And Bob, that movie were to be a fast food item, what would you say that fast food item

would be? I kind of alluded to this in our video. I said it's like a cheeseburger with no extra ingredients. It's just a cheeseburger. And I would say a cheeseburger from Shake Shack, actually. I had Shake Shack this week to do a little bit of research and I didn't add anything to the Shake Shack burger. No sauce? No Shake Shack sauce? Shake Shack sauce. I did do that, but nothing else. It was just cheese, patty, a little bit of lettuce, Shack sauce. That's it. A very simple burger. And I gotta be honest, Shake Shack isn't my favorite fast food burger. I think it's a very good one.

I think it's really good. I don't know if I would say it's great. I would say Five Guys is great. I'm a more of a Five Guys guy myself. But because of that, I'm going Shake Shack Burger, single patty, not doing double patty, single patty. And it's exactly what you want it to be. You could scarf it down, that potato roll.

It's nothing you haven't seen before, but it's a burger done right. Okay, I like that. Mine is onion rings from Burger King. Oh yeah, I love onion rings from M. I guess, yeah, that's good. We saw we have, so usually, I'm not an onion ring guy. I've made that known, but I like,

so I think one of the best parts about Burger King I okay. I'm not an onion ring guy, but if you crisp the onions enough, I love them, but I don't like crunchy onions I just don't like that in my sauce. I don't like it at my onion rings. I don't like it in anything However, if you crisp it enough, they're great Now the thing about Burger King is Burger King will be honest kind of sucks, right? And I do think the Thunderbolts as a premise, there's a ceiling, just like there's a ceiling with what you could get at Burger King.

Hold on a second, AJ, I'm talking and we're making a fast food analogy right now. With that being said, when I get a little onion ring in my Burger King French fries, it is so good. I absolutely love it. I have on Cloud 9 and that's it. Like Thunderbolts sometimes they're good in little doses a little bit of Bucky a little bit of Elena However, this is all them and again, it's it's not bad. It's just not bad. It's solid. I'm happy with it again

It's not like I'm going to go to Shake Shack or five guys. There's plenty of other better options out there But those onion rings man, they just hit There we go. I think that's a good one and onion rings other better options out rings, man, they just hit that's a good one. And on you're getting from from single time. I think that go with the Shake Shack Bu the Burger King onion ring

bolts from my mom's baseme the movie as much as we d in a good place for the M four on deck. Perfectly said. Bob, I mean, what are we doing here? Fantastic Four, is this like we're getting like a free meal on the plane and if this meal hits, it's like the greatest flight. Are we getting upgraded to first class? Like I don't even know. I feel like we've been on this flight now, the 2025 Yeah, it's a long flight. And I feel like we're like, I don't maybe it's like, oh, we're gonna give you a free Wi Fi or something. Wi Fi is humming. You

know, there's a lot of ways is fantastic for it. It's fantastic for lands the plane. If it lands the plane, there we go. When we leave it, they're giving us a first class voucher. And we're like, oh my god, we're flying first class with the Avengers. We don't know if it's going to be a like, oh my god, we're flying first class with the Avengers We don't know if it's gonna be a good experience or not, but we're flying first class for it. Yeah. Yeah perfectly said There we go. We'll talk to you next week