My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 429 - ANDOR FINALE (FEATURING THE LAST OF US S2 EPISODE 5)

Episode Date: May 15, 2025

Robbie and Clem have an almost TWO HOUR discussion about the Andor series finale, The Last Of Us Season 2 Episode 5, some new trailers, and more today! Find out what's got us #BumpedUp in the Basement this week! ****************************************   My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike!   Subscribe on Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/MyMomsBasementWithRobbieFox Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement, and a very special Andor Finale, Series Finale edition of My Mom's Basement, also featuring The Last of Us. I've got to give it the respect it deserves. This is an Andor episode featuring The Last of Us. It's not a co-headliner tour. You know what I'm saying, Clem? It is Robbie and Clem as always. And we are here to break down a bunch of stuff. Not only Andor and The Last of Us, but Superman trailer, Peacemaker trailer, Ironheart trailer, a bunch of stuff.

The way you just said you introduced those two shows and then you introduced you and I, it made me feel like I am the Last of us trail, the last of us and you are the Andor finale, Bob. Or am I just trailer fodder? Am I just basically? No, Clem, we just gotta give Andor the big headliner. When you look at the festival bill of this week's My Mom's Basement, Andor's in the big font. Everything else is in the tiny font below it.

I like the way you put that. I was thinking more so, so like when I'm looking for a song and I'm like, picture, Sheryl Crow. I'm like, is that Sheryl Crow featuring Kid Rock or Kid Rock featuring Sheryl Crow? In this case, this is featuring The Last of Us, but this is an Andor episode, which will be at the end for people that haven't looked at the timestamps yet.

We're gonna say that for the end. I think that's gonna be the longest part of the pod. I got a lot of thoughts on my mind. But it's like and it's it's very rare you get like the the two artists as the same thing blah blah blah and blah blah blah but it is most certainly not that. We have a lot of Vandor to talk about which by the way I forgot to do this before we went live I went I saw that I had reviewed Rogue One which we're gonna be talking about on the blog yeah on the blog and I you know I'll do that before next time is just like I'll say it I hit it on the head I'm just gonna say my review was as it has aged perfectly so big Andor episode here in the basement. I'm trying to think back. I want to say that blog, the Rogue One review blog

might have been like the first thing I ever talked to you about. I think I walked up to you in the office and I was like, I read your review blog. I agree with all your points. Like that was great. Love that. Love. I think that was like the first conversation we ever had so talk about full circle in the basement here I'm pretty sure Rogue One was the first thing we ever talked about. Rogue One was like the and or for our friendship here right yeah it pretty much was this is the origin story of the basement full circle in a way that even maybe Diego Luna didn't come full circle but he did come full circle in a crazy way because 10 years to the day that he was announced

to be cast in Rogue One was the finale of Andor. How did that work out? That's the force. You don't believe in the force after that. What the fuck? That is the force, perfectly said. I also, I'll always remember this, this was when six in my head.

I remember, maybe it was after then, but I remember me, you and Glennie went to shoot the rundown commercial where Dave, Kevin, and Big Cat rode on our backs. And I just remember being like, this Robbie Fox kid, he seems like a nice kid, but he is so quiet. And listen, you're a nice kid, you have Dave, Big Cat, Kevin, you know,

and I could, you know, just being a teenager out of college and just working his dream job, I can imagine I would have been very quiet at that age as well. But man, I just remember that I was like, this kid, he seems like a nice kid. He's just painfully shy and look, you can't get this kid to shut up. He's doing 24 hours streams talking so much. Yeah, literally. Um, as far as basement keeping goes this week, I don't have a lot to plug. I just want to. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I don't I don't know if you even you didn't agree to that. I know you didn't agree to that. Well you said you said 50,000. I said I agree because I thought I think it was 50,000 was the original goal last time. We didn't hit it in time for the end of Peacemaker. So I thought you were saying another 50 which would be that 100. That would be crazy. And I'd be fine with that.

But I don't know what we're signing up for right now with peacemaking. You want to get in James Gunn's brain and what he's going to do with John Cena to... I don't want to be in that. I love that brain. I don't want to be in that brain. That brain's fucked up. It's all this way, that way. Guardians of the galaxy. To think of all this crazy shit, you gotta be a little fucked up. You gotta be a lot fucked up. I feel like you need like a cushion suit, like, you know, like a, the kid in Little Giants where he wears the bed foam around him because it's moving. You also need like a rain jacket because I feel like it's wet in there. There's just different thoughts going through that brain. There's a lot of shit going on.

And we love James Gunn, but man, he is a wacky dude. I'll say subscribe to the channel for the Peacemaker Goal and I'll also say, speaking of Rogue One, we're gonna keep the Andor festivities celebration going next week. Clem had the great idea to do a Rogue One rewatch and we'll talk about Rogue One on the podcast next week. And I think that's great because especially the the final three episodes of Andor, the arc we'll talk about today, it bleeds into Rogue One almost as smoothly as Rogue One bleeds into A New Hope. It's like such a great continuation. So next week, I mean, they really did miss out on the opportunity to do Rogue One paired with the Andor-Finalion theaters or something.

I know we talked about that as well. Hopefully they do that next year because next year, I think it's the 10 year anniversary of Rogue One. So people are saying maybe you do something like that or December, I think maybe if this year would be 10 years, would it be, or was that that no December of this year's force awakens, so it would be next year But yeah, and or it was so fucking good and we'll get into that well I'll save it for the end, but it was so fucking good I would love to rewatch it on the big screen and someone said maybe they put a shortened version of the season out and

Apparently there's been rumors about that That kind of got me thinking like Listen, I love it as a show. Can they tow for grace and or into a movie? Can they do two and or movies and make the and or trilogy ending with Rogue One? I would sign up for that in a minute. I'm very upset that Disney I'm not going to say didn't think of it, but didn't do it. They might've thought of it, but then with since just just coming out it would have been a lot and I don't think you can just ignore said I mean they made a buttload of money with synth

and I'm telling you I think a lot of people would have really enjoyed like would have went to the end or rewatch and listen I watched and or just cuz I had the itch and I just like I'm gonna scratch it I told you before we went live you're like oh yeah I haven't watched it like seven months Bob I don't think I've watched it since like the movie theater. I might have watched it. You watched Rogue One. That's what I said.

Andor. Yeah. I haven't rewatched, I hadn't rewatched Rogue One in years, years and years, maybe since it just came out at home. And I was like, holy shit. Let me tell you guys, it gets, I love the movie. I blogged about it. I talked about how much I love, like I said, it gets so better and it makes the end or better. It makes her one better guys

It makes a new hope better. It's all yeah poetry rhymes Whatever you want to say all this over stuff, man It just feels good to be in this place in the basement right now So rogue one rewatch this week because Disney kind of fucked it up. I mean, did he loves making money? I don't know why they didn't throw in the theater. Maybe it was um because of this the sith just coming out as well. The other problem is like, I'll go in December or whatever they could with the anniversaries and stuff like that. It's just not the same. I've never seen, I don't know the last time I saw Star Wars had this much momentum on the internet. Probably Baby Yoda's arrival.

Like Mando season two? I don't even know if it's that. Maybe the Luke scene? Yeah, the Luke scene. Yeah, because that was season 2 I don't know the Luke scene yeah that was even a little polarizing like when they brought Luke back they were also like what does this mean for the show a lot of people now point back to that and they're like that what that's the cause of all the problems in the Mando verse that scene that episode whatever but I mean this was universal praise across the board.

Everyone on Twitter. Oh my God. They landed this fucking X-Wing in a way that or maybe a U-Wing for Andor in a way that yes, we anticipated greatness. I would say after the first season we like put our faith in Andor season 2 for sure, but they exceeded even the highest of expectations. I feel like with the final half of season two, not only the final arc, the final six episodes are like some

of the highest rated six episodes. It's like one of the highest rated six episode stretches in the history of like IMDb, Metacritic, any of that. And like, I can't disagree, like those six episodes are perfect. It felt like I watched two movies back to back weeks. I have this in my notes here. Andor is the first show in history to have five episodes in a row with a 9.5 or higher rating. Look at that. So not one of like the greatest stretch on IMDb is now Andor. And I feel like it's deserving of it. I know it's not fucking when we look at the pantheon of the greatest shows of all time Maybe and or isn't the Sopranos

But it's as good as we ever could have imagined it being in the Star Wars universe And again, we'll get to and or at the end It did make me like frustrated a little bit that all Star Wars isn't this good where I was like I just imagine all Star Wars was this quality. I might have a couple notes in here where I'm like, do I bring this up on the pod or not? But I think the questions have to be asked and we'll be. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll worry about that when we get there. We have a bunch of stuff that we have to touch on. Let's touch on some of the trailers first before we get into all of the television show recaps. The first being Superman. We got a new Superman trailer yesterday

as of this recording. I'm glad that we're recording today and not yesterday so we could talk about the Superman trailer as well. Really cool trailer. Like I loved this. It's actually a little polarizing in the office. Some people were like, I didn't like this, look at it. Kevin, I think tweeted last night,

this trailer made him less confident in the movie. I loved, of course, the action we know looks great, CGI, the flying, the other heroes, all of of course, the action we know looks great. CGI, the flying, the other heroes, all of that I love. And that's great. What I loved was the substance in the trailer of Lois interviewing Clark, but as Superman, she has a tape recorder and they get into a little argument. And I saw a great tweet where it was like, he thought he was role play and she rage baited him and he gets mad right away. And just seeing the dynamic of Lois and Clark, I felt like, oh, they're nailing this.

And I love the fact that she knows already, you know, Lex already hates him. The stuff that we've talked about, them skipping over a lot of the origin stuff for Superman, I love that. Seems like a very emotional end to the trailer with Pa Kent. He's a goner.

I'm gonna sign it up right now. I love you, Pa Kent. He ain't making it out of'm gonna sign it up right now. Love you, Pa Kent. He ain't making it out of this movie. It's like a lot of Superman stories have dealt with the one thing he can't change, like his parents getting older and stuff. What did you think of this look? Yeah, it felt like Lois and Clark,

I thought that was gonna be like when Dave started yelling at the reporter and Austin built it. I thought it was gonna be like that. He slams the laptop. I mean, the first thing I thought of I was like she's interviewing him and she's interviewing with Superman and then the only thing between him and Clark Kent

are the glasses and I'm like god damn it this is going to be one of those things that's always just going to fuck me up. But it's like funny in a way I can find the humor in it all. Just like, it was so interesting because I feel like you're getting an idea of just the dialogue and the way people are gonna talk in the movie,

but then you have these crazy effects going on in the background. So it was, my brain was overloaded. I couldn't take it. I watched it once and I was like, I can't even deconstruct that to have it get me excited for the movie. I'm not excited for the movie. I was like that

was just too much. I just need to see what this movie looks like on the screen in order everything being played out just like the regular way because it's a lot and I understand I do understand both sides. I can see why some people are a little skeptical. I don't even know like Superman is such a unique character and he's that guy and they fucked it up enough times and James Gunn has such a unique style And I think if we said that style Superman is not definitely a match made in heaven But it could be a match made in who fucking knows, you know, so I am predicting it is I said in my blog I don't think this is gonna be great in superhero movie standard. I don't think it's gonna be great in DC movie standard I think this is going to be one of the best movies released in 2025. I'm putting it out there like that.

After this look, I'm very confident. I love what I saw. CGI wise, they changed a few things from the last trailer. See people pointing that out. When the guy throws the can at the back of his head, Superman like flinched a little and blinked in the last trailer. And in this one, he doesn't even blink nice I like that and those little subtle things too could couldn't definitely they can change it in different ways That'll make it better. So I'm excited. Would we have two months basically? Yeah two months So yeah, and there was a trailer or not a trailer a poster that Fidelberg actually texted me because he Or I got a text from Fidelberg a few minutes ago, a few minutes before we started recording. He said, was Superman always in St. Louis? No, right? It's Metropolis. What's St. Louis

all about? And I was like, St. Louis? What do you mean St. Louis? I haven't seen anything St. Louis. They just released this poster. St. Louis look up with Superman and crypto looking over the arch. I have to assume they're gonna release one of these in every city. It's one of those things where I think they're gonna do New York, look up, California, look, or LA, look up. I have to assume, right? I mean St. Louis is James Gunn's hometown, so maybe it Missouri, St. Louis is next to Kansas. It also shares a border with Nebraska. Were you trying to check if St. Louis was in Nebraska for a second?

No, no, no. I want to see how if Nebraska was next to Missouri, if it borders it. I should know the US map. Jeff D'Lo is going to keep asking. I know geography were so bad. Like every dozen team other than KB, the Frank and the Frankettes, we're all so bad at geography and Jeff just keeps hammering us with the geography. Oh, I guess we could have plugged that with the basement keeping the basement bowl this week. We played each other in the dozen. So go check that out. Very good match. Very good match. But continuing with the James Gunn trailers, we got to look at peacemaker season

two, which is I guess just three months away that's coming in August right after Superman right off the heels of Superman. And it looks good. The big talking point that many people are bringing up is the fact that at the end of the trailer, one John Cena puts a gun to another John Cena's head and says who the fuck are you? People think that might be the DCEU peacemaker that we know and love coming to the DCU and killing their peacemaker just to take his place or something like that where it's like oh maybe this is how we get the universe's collabed because obviously he meets the

Justice League at the end of his season and James Gunn has said that'll be addressed. He's basically like, yeah, we'll kind of like slide that under the rug, but it'll be talked about. So we'll see. You could still, we brought this up when James Gunn said that, you could still just say like he was concussed and, you know, had a weird vision at the end of that battle. Yeah, James Gunn could do it a million different ways. It could be funny, meta, could be serious, whatever. Maybe I have trust the gun. I think that is, yeah. Oh,

I think that's a sign in the basement. It's definitely on. We trust that we very much trust the gun. That's a fixture down here. This trailer was kind of different from Superman, where it just gave me the kind of James Gunn dialogue and I don't need the CGI or the crazy effects which you're not going to get as much with Peacemaker and it's like Peacemaker, the Peacemaker IP does not have the same, doesn't share the same hollow ground as Superman IP and you can kind of take a lot more chances with the way the character is and with John Cena too, he's just John Cena. He's kind of a lovable, he can play the lovable dope very well.

So that got me really excited to be like, man, I had some good laughs in that first season and they went a lot of crazy in one directions. I want to almost like really listen to our podcast and just hear our thoughts as that season went on because it got fucking crazy at some points, man. And I forgot how much I loved all the side characters too. Obviously like Di Beard and Harcourt, right? Harcourt, was that her name? Jennifer Holland. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,

I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,

I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, the 11th Street Kids. Who was the dude with the chips? The karate dude. Oh um oh geez. It was like he had a stupidly simple name. Peacemaker Chips. We're both doing the same thing. Judo master. Judo master. Yeah. I was gonna say karate kid. It was like something like karate kid or whatever. Um good trailer though. Again, excited for Peacemaker season two. That's one that's not polarizing in the office. Everyone in the office watches Peacemaker and loves it.

The girls, the guys, yeah. When we were talking about that, it was like, I think even Keegs was like, oh my God, I love Peacemaker. And it's like, you don't expect everyone in the office to love this weird niche superhero show, but James Gunn was able to make it just a fucking funny, heartfelt show even. Speaking of hearts, Ironheart got a trailer.

How about that for a little transition? Nice, Bob. Now, this has been one that has been. It's been like in studio. I don't even know madness for a few years. Like we were told that this wrapped in 2022. And I'm not positive, but, Clem, correct me if I'm wrong, we're in 2025 now. I think it's been three years since they wrapped the show.

I think they did some reshoots. This is apparently where Mephisto the big M word is coming into the fray. It worries me everything about Iron Hearts production the way that they're putting it out like right before the show comes out a month before they're like, all right, we'll do a little bit of promotion. The fact that they're just putting Ryan Coogler's name on everything. Executive producer Ryan Coogler, the biggest name on the poster, Ryan Coogler. He had next to nothing to do with the show as far as I know.

Like he was the exec producer in that he brought the character into the MCU and said, like, good luck with Ironheart. He's over all the promotional material. So it worries me. That being said, whoever edited this trailer, I thought did a good job because this trailer makes it seem like a good show. It makes it seem like a show that I'd be into, the Chicago vibes and everything, like the CGI held up, the suit up scene

where the suit catches up with her in the street, and then she fucking smashes that car, flips like it's a good trailer. I don't know if that means it'll be a good show, but I Don't know like I'm going in with uh Maybe like miss Marvel expectations where we were like, I don't know if this is gonna be for us But we'll give it a shot and we'll see I don't know if we'll do the weekly recaps and everything like that We'll evaluate that at the time. Yeah, I think that's a perfect way to put it. I thought the same thing like Kugler was everywhere.

And hey, you have the card. Use it right. I can't. Yeah. Right now. Yeah. The Kugler card is like it's not even an ace. It's like a wild draw for an uno and it's on fire. It's on fire. And it's a reverse as well somehow. That can give you another chance

to throw another fucking Googler card. And they're throwing them all and I don't hate it right now because I mean, like we're gonna talk about why cause you know, he's such a hot name. But yeah, shout out to the editor of the trailer. It got me interested in maybe it reminded me that like the Rui character, the actress

or you know, whatever is seems a lot of fun. Uh the I didn't really like the the villain definitely was played so straightforward in it. I was like and I'm like, this feels like it's like a little more direct which I think might be

for like a younger audience like we said with Miss Marvel. I don't know. Um but yeah, definitely the I'm sorry. You know. Um but yeah, definitely like the the 22 and it gets call all these shows and they get out of the void a happens in the void, right

of this as the Thunderbolts void? Because I didn't even think about that when we were recapping Thunderbolts. We now have two voids in Marvel. I was thinking the Deadpool void or the Vovoke void is what I associate with. But nonetheless, I mean, you could make a case it is the Thunderbolts void as well with some of the projects that have gone into there, but it went in the void. It somehow survived.

I don't think anyone, maybe you come out of the void stronger or else you die. So maybe this will be like, I feel like Brave New World was in the void too, which wasn't good. Yeah, I don't know if that came out stronger. And I feel like the Giancarlo Esposito scenes were like the scars that were left from the void that didn't really make sense

or go smoothly with the story. A show you would think would be harder to, I don't know if it's easier, it might be easier actually to kind of put the pieces back in place and have it all make sense and make it good instead of having to do it in a two, two and a half hour movie, I'm not sure.

I don't have the brain for all that entertainment Hollywood stuff. But yeah, long story short make myself so cool Like if you do that, yeah, even if it's apparently Sasha Barracoa Yeah, well I wrote the blog on that when it was announced and I'm like this is something Sarah Basha Cohen was like Sasha Barracoa and he's like how can I troll people in this world where everyone does prank videos? This is how you do it. You tell them I'm the fisto and then you never

world where everyone does prank videos this is how you do it you tell them I'm Mephisto and then you never know we've been talking with this fucking guy for five years a character I don't even know existed when I used to read comic books as a kid make me feel so cool and for the love of God just give us a B minus post credit scene yeah like how about this asking for is a B. Yeah. Like, how about this? It's Ironheart. We're in the world of Iron Man. Give us Don Cheadle. Non scroll fucking somehow confirmed to us. Oh, yeah. Forget about that scroll shit. I'm fucking warm machine and I'm here. I'm roadie. Give us something like that, you know, or give us a Justin Hammer. Give us fucking someone

from like a villain from the Iron Man universe or something tease that for the future. They're coming back because Armor Wars was, you know, still maybe in the the Marvel void right now. or because the the hood, that's the name of the villain. Yeah, the hood and it's like magic versus tech. I think that's the

whole show is what's stronger magic or technology. The kid who plays the hood like he looks like he'd be a Terrence Howard's kid right? Oh I could see that yeah Anthony Ramos his name is he's from Hamilton. Give us Terrence Howard yeah that'd be weird multiverse. We're already we're hey we're about to secret war and if he wants to be in that marble paycheck I heard he you know it sounds like he's kind of a weirdo

difficult I don't know what it is. I think he's crazy yeah. That's a way to you know just throw it in a little post credit scene give him some some money for for helping out that could work even just referencing. And he had he has the same line that that roadie says at the beginning too when he's like it's it's me I'm here let's get over like deal with it whatever he says like that would be like, oh, what the **** Secret Wars is coming up. Yeah. And Iron Heart was a great show. I don't remember the first. Do we know how many episodes it is? I don't know. Okay. I saw it.

It's like six to eight. I think that's the range that we're looking for with something like this. Agreed. Agreed. It's, yeah. It's called the mini series which I feel like helps. Six episodes. So, you're gonna feel like you're not getting

too much. You're getting two on feel like helps six episodes. So you're gonna feel like you're not getting too much You're getting two on June 24th one and then you're getting I'm sorry Three on July 24th, and then you're getting July 1st July 8th, July 15th So you're basically getting it's not even a full month worth of iron heart here So it's another thing that worries me a little bit All right, here's all of it That if they just did the Disney just does the one drop. They just do like the stranger things here.

Here's your present unwrap it. Well, they did it for Echo. And that that was the thing that worried me where I was like, and Echo was fine. Like as we recapped, it was totally watchable. Like Kingpin scenes were cool and stuff. But it did feel like they were like, all right, like fucking watch this and we'll move on to the next project, you know.

So we'll see. It's still up in the air I my hope my only thing I give a fuck about right now is that iger killed the void the production Oh, yeah And I think he did based on the way they were talking with thunderbolts and shit I think and this is pre thunderbolts the way they filmed it in production all that but I think the void is now The multiverse has been all bridged and iger's there like Loki at the end of that fucking show holding it together Let's hope With the horn branches yeah the horns oh my god

And then you said we'll talk about Cougar a bit and why Cougar so hot in the streets right now I was happy to hear that you went and saw sinners and I was a little surprised because I know you're not a big horror guy. I know Mrs. Clem is a big vampire horror person in general so what were your general thoughts on Sinners? Well I'll tell you Mrs. Clem also like doesn't really write the point in our relationship now she just doesn't listen to me. We have enough shit going on in the house. We have she got she got her two kids. She's extracted her two kids from me and now we're just paying our mortgage and living together. Maybe when the kids are out of the house then she'll like remember that I am an

entertaining person to be around because I was like I heard that Sinner movies great vampires. We love vampires and then she's like oh yeah and then I'd ask her like a daily vamp. What do you think Sinners and then she's like what what's that? I'm like all right so I just saw up on myself. I went to my local mom and pop. Oh you went by Oh, that's so funny. It's so sad. I went by myself. I said, you know what? It was $5 Tuesdays at the local mom and pop, which has about a week left. I emailed them. I said, Hey, is there anything we could do to like maybe keep it around? They said no, it doesn't. So I doesn't look like that's gonna be a thing. And man, I'll tell you, I am not a horror guy. And this is a spoiler free review. So you guys don't have to worry. If you're not a horror person, but you can like stomach a little bit of horror here and there like um What did you compare it like? What would you from just till dawn but like that? way more gory and weird and yeah in terms of straight horror like if you could watch like an I am legend like this is No crazier than that like gore wise right a little last of us ish right where you're getting some of it and there definitely is gonna be some scarier stuff

They kind of they they they um If you have a tip if you just have a basic brain, you know when there might be something that's a little scary coming up Yeah, but like the paranormal stuff on fire with Ghostbusters was my favorite movie for years growing up That's probably why I don't like horror movies because I was scared the fuck goes are taking down growing up. That's probably why I don't like horror movies because I was scared the fuck of Gozer taking down Sigourney Weaver in the chair and then chasing Rick Moranis through Central Park. So but this movie man, it's fucking good I don't want to give The reviews that like I think climbers said best movie of the year Jeff D'Elo says it would have been the best movie last year Along with this year. I don't want to set expectations that high that might be true

I've been watching enough movies even given a an opinion like that, but it's really fucking good. The acting is out of this world. Again, you feel like you live in that world. It's very like I said, with Empire Strikes Back. And that's why the Krueger card is fucking a wild draw for reverse. That Michael B. Jordan absolutely crushes so good Um, I always get Haley Steinfeld. Yes. Yeah. I mean they all great. There's even actors You're like, oh that guy crush everybody. Yeah, I'm like unbelievable. The story is so unique and and fun in a way and It would be good even if they didn't go paranormal to like the first hour of the movie might be like my favorite part where it's just like engulfing you in the world like you said where you feel like these characters are real and everything's lived in and

Smoking stack and like even the the younger cousin Sammy, right Sammy. Yeah, Sammy He's the kid who I told you he wants to play Miles Morales in the MCU. I'm like sign him up immediately He wants to play Miles Morales in the MCU. I'm like sign him up immediately Immediately he was so fucking good in this movie The music is so good like Ludwig Gordonson our guy from Black Panther and Mandalorian obviously Oppenheimer Crushes it like if he wins the Oscar this year for best score. I don't think anyone bats an eye It's immediately like that good the the warm kind of colors that the whole movie that glow it has over it. So good. And how about this?

The villain, I guess, or the villains, Ryan Cootler said inspired by Puss in Boots, The Last Witch because of death. He said death's eyes, the way they light up, he wanted to put into Sinners, which is like, holy shit, I didn't think that that would be inspiring, you know, one of the more serious like acclaimed movies of the year. But shout out Puss in Boots The Last Wish.

Great movie. Pretty sure we said absolute cinema with Puss in Boots after we saw it. It was a hit in the family for sure. But yeah, Sinners, go see it. No spoilers. Go see it. Still like the number one movie in theaters, which is crazy because a lot of new movies have come out since but it's yesterday. I think it was number one again. I'm trying. Like I know they said it was like the smallest decline from week one, weekend one to weekend two. Yeah. And I guess it's still raking in cash. So see it now because moral day, that's when you start turning out the blockbusters in the movies. You maybe don't want to see, but you feel like

you've got to see and maybe whatever it may be this movie, if it's raining out, you just have like the night and can't have nothing else to do. I double basement boy approved. Plus like every critic at Barstool here has given you essentially Kirk loved it too, right? Didn't Kirk love it? Loved it. Absolutely loved it.

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the most action and the less or the least amount of romance. It was there still, don't get me wrong, but I think the action, the the tension the scariness is working a lot better this season Than the relationship stuff. Yes, they're growing We're feeling like we're in Seattle now and we're learning. Yeah all the good and bad I that was something that was cool We were in Kansas City is you got a little taste of the dynamic But there was so much other stuff with the brothers and then Kathleen and everything, but just kind of like this is where they stand. This is what's happened in the past and this is what they're hoping for in the future. Just the whole thing with

the battles between the scars and the wolves. It's I like how that's growing. I said this last week and it was like you said, not as much this week. The other part of the show where it's just the two girls. I'm like this part of the show is just not going to do it for me. I don't think I could be wrong. I don't know. I think it might be a little different in the game in terms of just their dynamic and the way they talk to each other. But the way these two actors talk like the way it just it feels a little silly to me the way that they're talking. Hey listen, two young girls who are in love that like I could understand that side of talking. Hey listen, two young girls who are in love that,

like I could understand that side of things. It's also like the apocalypse you are surrounded by a whole bunch of bad stuff. We have more important things to worry about. Lebanese is not exactly- Even last week, like we talked about it, like I'm immune, I'm pregnant, and then sex scene. It's like, let's have a conversation about immune, you know? Like let's talk about what that means. Let's talk about how we could use that. Let's, you know, there are moments like that where I'm like, let's lean away from the romance relationship

side. Maybe they're leaning into it hard though, because that worked so well with Bill and Frank last season and everyone loved that episode. Who knows? That's actually, that's a good point. I didn't think about that with maybe they they went back to the well on that because the let's have like I think that was probably my biggest criticism and I don't think I even said the let's I'm immune. That's a conversation that needs to be had. Yeah, I'm sure she said she probably had it at least shadow with Joel we know in tests where she was like, I swear, I swear, I swear and then he's thinking of Marlene, but it's like This she could turn at any point. She's your friend. She's like lover at this point and You're she's going with you to get revenge for Joel. I felt like that could have breathed a little so yeah I'm with you on that perfectly said Bob. That's all I wanted to say. I Did have a note right off the bat. I said for once I'm gonna say don't go in the basement because this this episode begins with like

We boarded up the basement and we can't fucking go in there and they say it's in the air and as soon as they say That that's such an oh shit moment. What do you mean? It's in the air You could just fucking breathe this in and become a zombie now Definitely a cool oh shit moment to open the episode that they don't really go back to but they don't need to there's like They go back to it at the end of the episode where you know what they're walking into before they walk into it But then we see like Ellie and Dina go into that Hotel music venue where they put the lights on I thought the lights were gonna be a dead giveaway I was like that that's bad sign for them

But it's dope seeing like a music venue or stuff like that where Ellie could get on stage. It's like if I was in an apocalypse, I would love to pop on into MSG and get on stage and pretend that I'm playing your show right now. Well, yeah, that would be actually pretty cool. Maybe maybe I have to also think of this like, all right, when Ellie would travel with Joel, she's with like this like killer who has the brain to like he's been through the wars he knows what to do and what not to do. If you had two girls or two kids in general, who are in a new place they're going to probably do stupid shit like that they haven't got burnt by too much they've been burnt by in the past a little bit but it's like you're just like you fucking morons if I'm playing the video game and I go to the empty concert hall I'll tell you switch light does not happen unless I literally cannot finish the level without turning on the lights and making any noise I'm playing guitar play drums no no no no no for the 17 billion things that all

want to kill us yeah no that's that's that's a very good point We get some Dina backstory. She killed a raider when she was eight She talked about getting to Jackson but didn't say how she got there So I was wondering if there was more about that sus list sus list. I don't know about sus list, but There was something there. You're so soft, Fox. Come on. Suslist is a bitch. I could suslist a pregnant girl. Yeah, I could suslist her. Who gives a shit? I must suslist for your baby.

Getting pregnant doesn't get you off the suslists. There's been pregnant murderers before. Alright, suslist. Dina's suslist. Thank you. Also, Dina in the Superman trailer. She plays Hawkgirl. So Dina is just and she's also in the Peacemaker trailer. So she's all over the place. She's going to be. I don't know what off the top of my head. Probably ring a bell. I had it before. She's actually pretty good too. Like I will say the relationship stuff isn't you

know, hitting for me completely, but I think the Dina actress is very good. And I'm not anti-Bella Ramsey at all. I'm actually pro-Bella Ramsey. I think she's good in this show. I think Dina's a little better, though. She's in Madame Web. I didn't know that.

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Alien Romulus. She is. That's right. Yeah. Oh, she's fucking good in Alien Romulus. And this episode gave me Alien Romulus alien vibes like when alien puts when it puts the people in the walls like there were people in the walls alien style Romulus has the red lights the entire time.

So I definitely got vibes of that. I loved the shooting is a last resort scene where they're like shooting is a last resort. Let's not do this. It's very dark. We have to turn the lights out again to see it. Then they have the I love you. I know exchange, which I was like, interesting. Did you pick up on that too? I was going to say, Bob, I know you're going to get this, but Dina did hit her with the I love you. She hit her with the I love you and the I know. That was like a self follow you. Yeah. It was. She fucking did the the Mr. Perfect. She threw herself a fucking Hail Mary and then caught it down the down the field. And the best part is in this universe Empire Strikes Back does exist because it is in 1980. It's 2003. They didn't get to Revenge of the Sith though. I remember noting that season one being like ah fuck they didn't get the best prequels. The prequels aren't even called the prequels

technically right? Or I guess prequel trilogy. Well I guess just two of them. Oh it ends on Attack of the Clones. I know and I just want someone to be like what about that lava fight we've heard so much about over the years like what do you think that would have been like if we got it? The fall of Anakin Skywalker never happens Darth Vader not technically cannon by this He's cannon I liked the the video game Ness of the dialogue when they get into that Warehousey room and Ellie

I think is like there's lots of windows in here Let's be careful and there's like the light coming in it felt like a video game where you're like avoid the light You know avoid the flashlights or whatever terrifying first shot of the stalker and you look up and the stalker like a fucking spider just like Backs away on top of that thing me and Lady fox looked at each other and had the same like reaction. We were like oh no I yelled nope I don't mean it with a horn. I mean they're like Perfectly designed in that when they're on screen. They look a little bit creepier than the normal ones

They're a little bit faster So that makes them scarier by nature of that and you almost don't even want to look at the screen when they're on screen, they look a little bit creepier than the normal ones. They're a little bit faster, so that makes them scarier by nature of that. And you almost don't even want to look at the screen when they're on. It almost makes me look away. And maybe I'm a pussy for that. I can't handle gore anymore.

But like, yeah. I always, that's what I like about the regular clickers. It's like, all right, they have their faults. They have their weaknesses. And we can beat these guys. These other ones, they're unknown too. So I'm just like, oh, we're fucked. God damn it. Someone's dying Now Jesse makes the big save

Did you have an issue with the convenience of that cuz Clemmer did mean Clemmer kind of got into an argument in the office Because Clemmer is like that's too convenient. That's horrible. It's unforgivable and I was like, I don't know man It's it's the kind of leap that they have to take in these shows every now and then. It's the kind of leap they take in a show like Thrones or Walking Dead or... I was like, sure, it's super convenient, but I didn't really take issue with it. It's very much like a sure, it's super convenient. And hey, if you want to be pissed about that, be pissed about it. You could also tell me, like, that would happen in a video game where you feel like you're dead and then it's like,

Oh, character X just came back out of nowhere and he explains, hey, I saw the map, so it all makes sense. And they were shooting so he could hear, you could explain it away like that. If you have a problem with it, fine. If you don't, fine. If you're like, this is the thing

that made me finally give up on The Last of Us, all right, that's fine. Like, don't show up on Sunday then, next Sunday. We'll be here. When they run out into the forest, I thought we were getting like the fucking infected forest and it was gonna be an infected jungle. And it might be worse because it's a culty jungle

and a culty park and they do the intestine rip. Like what we saw the intestines hanging out last week, to actually see it done, horrific. Absolutely disgusting and horrific. the intestine rip like what we saw the intestines, you know, hanging out last week to actually see it done horrific, absolutely disgusting and horrific as they were talking. I'm like they're not going to show the intestine thing and

then they they showed it. That was a note. I have curved swords are so fucked if he took out a regular sword that looked like John Snow sword from the You got the person it's fucked but the curved sword is just extra I don't know what it is about curved swords. They give me the heebie-jeebies. Whatever. I see they do for me, too I don't like it man, cuz it's like maybe with a sword a straight sword You can do a bunch of things with it. I feel like the curved swords are made to go Sword you might be chopping down weeds, you might be trying to

get through the fourth machete style. Yeah, curved sword, you're fucked. Bob, I'm not talking about doing housework with the straight sword. You're doing a sword fight, you can't sword fight with a curved sword. That sword is when the person is tied up or they're basically vulnerable and it's like the curved sword is taking out a head or taking out some guts. I do not like curved swords. I think it's like I feel like the Middle East has a lot of curved swords and you'll see these in like those older movies. Like Aladdin movies yeah stuff like that where like dude doesn't like characters in that not Jafar but isn't there like a character he fights or someone who has occurred because I

remember having like a toy like when I was little I remember like a pirate toy is it or am I thinking of a Peter Pan obviously the hook there we know that Captain Hook the like guards have curved swords it's not as curved as this guy's sword in a lot and I'm looking at him right now you know the the big guards are all like bigger yeah so they have a bunch of curved swords but it's like even more so. Does the guy who um the Indiana Jones sword guy, does he have a curved sword? Curved but not like a hook. It's like kind of a normal like kind of a normal curve, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, he's going at the back of a great scene. But man. Great

scene. You know what like you could tell me as if I was in the wolves and you're like, listen, these people, they whistle and they bow one arrows and they'll cut you. I'd be like, all right, I'm in, I'm fine. They're like, they have curse words, I'm out. But I don't fuck with people with curse words. I was gonna say great Indiana Jones scene. And I know I've probably brought this up

on the podcast before, but the reason they did that scene was because Everyone on the set except for Steven Spielberg got food poisoning from the local food So that was supposed to be a big sword fight and Harrison Ford was like listen I don't have that in me How about I just take my gun out and fucking shoot him and we move on and the only reason why Steven Spielberg didn't get food Poisoning is cuz he like has a weird stomach. He's like, I don't trust any local food. He brought

a bunch of Spaghetti to set with him. So, the only thing he was eating on the set of Raiders was Spaghetti. It's a crazy world we live in when Spaghetti are like the most adequate safe food. Yeah. Yeah. Safe food. I think we've had this

conversation in the basement. I've definitely had it off air. I had it just last time I was in the city. Are you have you are you a Spaghetti guy and were you a Spaghetti guy? I was and I am the best there was the best there is the best there ever will be. I love Spaghetti. It's the one with the meatballs specifically. If there's not the meatballs um hit or miss with it. If you got the Spaghetti with the meatballs, I'll eat it every day. Okay. I am anti. I know it's trash. I know it's the biggest trashy like thing you could like, but yeah. Well, this is the thing. I was a Spaghetti-Os kid, but at some point, I think I got sick off of them, which always fucks things up.

It's like if you get sick drinking a liquor, the reverse rate is they go that. Yeah. Yes, exactly. The like the sauce is just too sweet for me. And I'm not looking for like, oh, I'm not gonna be large and be like, I need the madana. You're gonna hit D on the R with madana. But it's like, it's just, it's too sugary for me. But everything about it, like, I think if you're eating the meat, if you're eating meat in a can,

that's a little trashy, let's be honest. But if it tastes good, that's your thing. Whatever floats your boat. Spaghetti was a whole, should work for me. But if it tastes good, that's your thing. Whatever floats your boat. Spaghetti was a whole, it should work for me, but it's just, if it was just less sweeter, it was just, it always just tastes like sugar water more than, and I love sugar, don't get me wrong. Yeah.

The Nora scene, them going down the elevator shaft, the first confrontation, the chase, the elevator shaft stuff, that was great. Like all of that, I was completely captivated edge of my seat level stuff. The alien level stuff I was talking about before with the people in the walls. Super creepy. They're breathing it out. Yeah, I said they're breathing it out like it's the fucking Triple H spit. Not the spit when he goes up, but when he looks at the camera and then just fucking breathes out the water afterwards. That's what it looked like to me. I said that's wild breathing it out like Triple H. And then we get a cool Ellie confrontation at the end

where you know Nora's fucked but Ellie's fine. The red lights illuminate and everything in this demonic way and Ellie starts yelling, where is she? And it reminded me of a movie. Do you know what movie I'm going to say? Where is she? Yes, I do. But I can't think. Where is she? Where is she? What is it? What is it about?

It's a little movie by Christopher Nolan in 2008. The Dark Knight. Check it off on the bingo board this week. Ladies and gentlemen, we got to it. Took us 47 minutes, but we got to it. I'm going to be a chicken off on the bingo board this week. Ladies and gentlemen, we got to it took us 47 minutes, but we got to it. Good ending to the episode though and a Joel tease

at the end. It seems like next week. Maybe we get a flashback episode. So yeah, I don't know if you don't watch the the the next on fast forward 2 minutes. I'll be done ranting by then looks like a flashback episode full maybe

episode and I love that love it. I yeah. Give me all the Pedro. Ellie Ellie felt like she's going down the Abbey Road now right a little bit with the I know when she when she hits the I know at the end of the episode where she's like Joel did this he **** doing too mad and she the I know at the end of the episode where she's like, Joel did this, he fucking do too many, she goes, I know.

Yeah, and she's just out, Joel would have probably put her out of her misery. I don't think Joel would have wanted to beat someone to it. Oh, Joel did torture the fuck out of people, but she's not gonna get, she's not giving up Abby. Her life is over at this point, Nora, that is. So she's not gonna give up her friend. And the fact that Ellie is just gonna torture her

for the rest of her sad fucking life. If Ellie had a curved sword, she might have spoken. There's a real problem, but I definitely feel like we're getting, she's definitely transforming Abby. I'm also feeling like we're going to get Abby episodes in part in season three or you know, 2B, whatever you want to call. That's what've been feeling. There's no time for Ali, Abby, and especially if we have a Joel episode, which again, I kind of would like to see it where it's like, you know, the black and the white, the heads and the tails,

kind of the two different sides of it all. So we'll see how it goes. I do think I'll be falling on this Joel episode. I love Pedro Pascal. I knew that already. I think so too. It just hammered it home. Yeah, we're gonna get a lot of like, excuse me, angsty teen daughter fighting with dad over the guitar,

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Prognosticate all they want and they're wrong and then I hit it face cuz like oh the guys horse the word it has to work Clement it there was no how long can we how long did we get Dave to like name a horse after like a Star Wars thing? Or a dune thing. He was with Chalamet last night. Maybe a dune thing. Chalamet? Like could that be a future horse? Oh yeah. Chambley or whatever he calls him. He was always throwing it. The B is always in a different spot. It's like Madison with two N's but not where you expect it. It's fucking, he throws the B and not where you expect it. It's like Carabas, he emphasizes a different part of his name every time.

He then moves the B around in Chalamet's mispronounced name. Chalamet, Chalamet, Chamblet, yeah. There's usually runs with Michael Buble at the end. Bob, give the people, all the Knicks fans at home a bing bong to train us out here for Wargame 6. Bing bong, let's bing bong them. There we go. All right. Let's bing bong him. There we go. All right.

Let's get into Andor. The main event, what we're all here for, episodes 10, 11, and 12 of season two. Coming off what we thought, oh, this is the best arc of the season, you can't outdo that. I don't know if they outdid it, but goddamn, they came close if they didn't. This was so good.

From the start, We get to kick off episode 10, a scene between Jung and Luthen. We love the scenes between these two. It's from the start. Fucking I dream with ghosts. Amazing scenes between these two. A Jedha mention right off the start, where it's like, oh shit, Rogue One is on. We're a few days away from Rogue One. We're talking about the Star Destroyer parked over Jedha and everything. Luthen's like, Oh, yeah, we could we could get get you to Yavin. And I'm like, Oh, I don't know if Yavin is the place that you're going to take this guy's family to go like it almost reminded me of is it Eugene and the Sopranos? Who's like, Hey, listen, I want to retire my wife and family. I just want to bring my family down to Florida. Like you don't get out of the mob like that, buddy He fucking kills him. It's crazy. But Lutheran cold-blooded as hell kills Jung right on the park bench They cut to him with the blaster through his chest. You're like, holy fuck, but they mentioned scared the scariff Galen or so fucking Jedha all of it mentioned because Deirdre got sent and she was put on the wrong email chain essentially. That's yeah it's so fucked how all these things broke and how Jung did the right thing right? He's done the right thing since we met him and

you're just like oh and the family the kids and how old are the kids now like they're getting old they're little tizzy loves collecting t-ball and he's they don't have a daddy anymore and he's goddamn it But he's just another name that was so important to rebellion that no one will ever know and our guy Luther is cold Like arguably the most important name like you could make the argument everything starts with Jung Everything starts with him They don't get the information about the Death Star to pass up the chain to one day get it to Luke without Jung on this fucking park bench. He gave his life, committed his life to the rebellion and he dies for it.

They kill him for it. It's fucked. But like, oh my God, it felt like it felt real in a way where I'm like, I'm sure at some point over the course of the world, someone knew too much information. And even though they did the right thing, they were like, we gotta get rid of you. Yep. Luthor is Belichick to the Patriots and Jung is

Bledsoe and that he needed to show Luthor what it could be but it you know, and or is is Brady. I'm trying to just cook right here. Luthor and Belichick feels like that like I can picture Luthor dressed as **** Belichick feels like that like I could picture Luthor and dressed as fucking Belichick with that short haircut. He's got yeah And you know what I mean and he's hanging around a young lady

Well, I didn't even realize people were theorizing before the finale that Clea was Leia because they were like, she speaks in a British accent. Leia in like two scenes in the first one just hits a British accent. It's not explained anywhere. Maybe they were like, she was slipping into her accent. She was with Luthen. She had symmetrical buns for a lot of the series. She kind of looked like Carrie Fisher.

Like I don't think it was spot on. I'd never bought into this theory, but I could see how it would be a fun theory physical buns for a lot of the series. She kind of looked like Carrie Fisher like I don't think it was spot on. I'd never bought into this theory, but I could see how it would be a fun theory to be like, I don't know. Maybe Clea is Leia, but again, if she was trying to disguise

herself, pick a name that doesn't sound like your name with a K. Yes, exactly. I wonder maybe like Luthen New Belle and he's like, oh, this is my daughter, Clea. He's like, oh my, we have a, oh no, Leia's already named. That's right. They get her already named. So he doesn't

name Leia. Okay. I like the way that works. Also Carrie Fisher slipping into the British accent. Let's just say she's like, um, Leo and departed where she had a, sometimes that British around her fancy Alderaan friends. She had the, you know,

accent for when she was at home. Cause that's actually not a bad headcanon. Like that. Bob, I've been cooking in Star Wars lately I watched so obviously uh May the fourth just happened so I was in Star Wars mode then I'd be watching I watched Empire around that time then with AJ got into Empire we watched the Family Guy Empire then we watched New Hope theatrical version I found

and now we're gonna watch the Family Guy version because we just finished New Hope. Plus, I just watched all of this Andor with Road 1, and then I've started, and I just finished A New Hope as I was starting this stuff, so I am living in zero BBY right now, so I am very dialed in on all this, and this episode, man, is just, it's fucking,

it was incredible. And I, did you, there's like the, oh, it's Yoda. When Yoda does like the hurt heart. Oh yeah, or the force. Or 66, yeah. When I saw that, you know, laser bolt in our boy Jung's chest, I was like, cause I'm like, oh, he's dead.

I'm like, oh no, oh, that was Luthen who killed him. Like it hurt me. I know. I had to look at lady Fox and be like Was that Luther like I knew but I had to confirm with another person and she was like yeah, I think it was Fuck no, and then I had another Yoda heart drop moment When Deirdre pulls up to the shop and she's at the antique shop and it's like, oh no We know that there's no good way out of this for our guy Lutheran here and the scene between them is so

Fucking good intense and well acted where they're both being phony at first and she's like, oh, yeah And he's like, yeah, there's only two shops or there's only two items in this shop that are like, you know Questionable counterfeit. Oh my god. That was such a good line or it's like he's talking about you two motherfuckers And then that flip where they they flip and he goes there's a whole galaxy out there waiting to disgust you Oh my god chills Bumps I got the bumps from that line when he says it's everywhere now and in this moment I almost thought he was going and taking her out with him I thought the shop was gonna be rigged to explode or something like that where it was gonna be boom

Deirdre's dead with him, but he just fucking stabs himself with that ancient blade. He was showing her He could have done a better job. Listen respect to Luther. I respect the commitment to sacrifice You could have done a better job. They put you on life support right afterwards. Blow the place up, Luther. I mean, yeah, I'm not here to like criticize the godfather of the rebellion and the guy who's made this all possible, but you gotta have like a better, like just like a simple cyanide pill or something like that that's only attached to you at some point. Not just like rip my guts apart and hope that at some point my adopted daughter can take me off a life support with an unbelievable fucking

plan. Like that was a that was a miss by Luther. I didn't come onto this pod thinking I was going to criticize Lutheran, but you got to have some shit on his keyboard, right? Or some some silver water on his fucking board. It was like, all right, they'll never find it now. Terrible job by Luther. But the motherfucker could spit bars. So like, who am I to like question him? Right. Spit bars in the scene till his last dying breath. He was spitting fucking bars.

There's a whole galaxy out there waiting to disgust you that line i i can't get enough of that line i've re-watched that scene like 10 times since the first time i saw the episode i want people who are not watching on the youtube who are watching on the audio feed which counts just as much don't get me wrong i want you guys to pause it and go back when bob said look see the goosebumps you have the hairs are standing it's clear the hairs are standing you are just talking about it gets me bumped up that's the hashtag for this week that sounds like a Nicky Smokes hashtag if you know what I'm saying hashtag bumped up Luthen has Bob bumped up which sounds like a whole other thing he's got me bumped and or it's got me

bumped up unbumped up from Andor. Listen to us right now. I haven't talked about Star Wars on this podcast like this in forever. It feels I mean, maybe a couple of Mando episodes, but man, this just feels good. Then we get the Lutheran backstory. We get him as a fucking imperial trooper doing that, like make it stop. He's in the ship, like here in the horrors, the people dying, the absolute like massacres the horrors the people dying the the absolute like Massacres that are happening around him. He's like make it stop clay is hiding and becomes his adopted daughter

So you get to see their whole thing and at the same time you're watching How he raised Claire you're gonna clay a breaking into this fucking hospital another cool thing to see in Star Wars like Oh Imperial Hospital like what does a hospital look like in Star Wars? Yeah she's breaking in and you realize oh this isn't a mission to save Luthen he's beyond saving this is a mission to kill him it's a mission to like do what he would have wanted Kleia to do and oh my god Luthen would have been proud of his girl after the fucking performance she puts on. She's got that little grandma, which was awesome. She's got a grandma alien. That was great.

I'm in my headcanon. That's like E.T.'s great, great, great, great, great. It looked like E.T. I said this E.T. ass grandma. That was my note. She kind of sounded like the Spanish cleaning lady from Finland. She's like, no.

No, no. It's like grandma grumbling or something like that. like a Spanish cleaning lady I was like this is so fucking satisfying what a way for her to start crumbling where she did everything in her power She broke every protocol to get access and as soon as she does they're like you broke protocol. You're under arrest Oh, that was satisfying her panic where she's like this You I gotta talk to a part of draws or whatever his name is part of part of gas check I gotta talk to him. They're like this is coming from him. It's like oh shit. It's crumbling on her the imperial the Empire crumbling due to its red tape and rule following that it has to have a Totalitarian government from the bottom up must be built on it Which then will cause it to crumble just like in real life fucking mom magnifique Oh, Dejra. Rot and piss wherever they're gonna send you,

which we'll get into whenever she does get sent there in a moment. It was great. Now, Bob, when was the last time you saw a man in the middle of a genocide and he finds a daughter figure and he's very misunderstood by the people who don't agree with his ideas. Yeah. Tell me you didn't get... I knew that was going to Thanos. I knew that was going to Thanos. There was some T-Man and Gamora vibes with Luther and young Clay at that planet, which... No, there was....was horrifying when they're like, just get rid of her, finish the job. And you're like, oh my God. And I always wondered what those early Imperial days, post Jedi fall, post Order 66,

where it goes from where it was at the end of Sith to where it is at New Hope. There's a lot of fucked up genocidal, genocidical shit going down across the galaxy. And it's a little cool to see also like, yeah, not everyone is just brainwashed and not everyone's just cool with following the orders. Like there's people like Luthen that are like, what the fuck are we doing? What did we sign up for? This isn't the Republic that we know.

This has become something else. And not everyone was people who were wronged by the Empire. It's just people who thought this is wrong, which I appreciate it as well And it's like our dude was on the other team, right? What unquote and now he's like he's the fucking base of the rebellion So I again just great story and like seeing how awfully were firsthand when he's selling the jewelry Which is also like a cool like origins the antique Yeah

persona that he you know gave up, when they see that people being ushered down those stairs and executed and everything, like, he's getting it firsthand. And then they show the fucking Naboo scene, we see Naboo, which we love seeing all the time. I love seeing Naboo. And you see that bridge, that's the bridge that they had made down during her funeral. Like she's floating down that bridge. He's watching it with Clea.

He fucking almost makes her do the explosion. He, you know, takes it back at the last second. He hits it and he goes, we'll be leaving now. That scene, another one where I was like, this is awesome, right at the same moment where she uses what he taught her and does the distraction explosion where that all just fucking blends into each other.

She gets into the room, pulls the plug on him. RIP, my dog. Luthen Rail. Where that all just fucking blends into each other she gets into the room pulls the plug on him RIP my dog Luthen rail what a performance what a character Stellan scars guard knocked out of the park a Star Wars character. We will never forget If we're ranking characters of and or when it's all said and done are you putting him one or you putting Cassian one are you putting? mean Andy circus had like he was like six men of the year right he was he was uh Mon Mothma's uh gotta be top three too like top three has to be it has to be Cassian, Luthen, Mon and I feel like you could put them in any order like depending on

the episode depending on the day and honestly you can't even stick Deirdre in there, even though, and then you're dealing with, I can never get his name in the pad. No, and the boats, the guy, the part of guys, in serial too, for sure. I might be saying that wrong too, it's something like that. I think, I think Luthor is that dude. I think he's my number one,

cause just, I mean, and it's based on a few scenes and a few lines where there are people that are on longer and Mon has obviously a great story as well. But like that's my dude, Luther. I guess maybe the other thing is Andorra also has Andorra, the movie that's our, the show is named after him. And then he's in Rogue One. Right.

So it's like, he gets that as well, but man, RIP my dog. And are we doing Luther? There's nowhere to really put the extra E like in Toad. We either put it at the end or we do the W like Luke from the Extended Universe. We could do that or we could also do, his name is Luthen Rail. I think it's R-A-E-L. What about just Luthen Real? R-E-E-L. We throw the E on the end. Just an amazing, amazing character arc over the two seasons. Not even a complete arc,

because what he was saying and what he was fighting for and the things he was doing in season one are kind of the same things he was doing in season two, but it's gotten a little more cutthroat. We've seen how the rebellion, we especially see in the next two episodes, what they thought of him and what they thought of his intel and and even just his is the information he was getting they weren't

trusting because he was so fucking off the rails and psychotic with the way he was pushing forward for the rebellion. But you need those people obviously you needed Luthen to to get to Jung, you needed Jung to get to Luthen, all of this connects it's like poetry, it fucking rhymes, it all rhymes with each other he should have been on course on that module if you don't have there for if he's not there for jung then it doesn't get back to you and like you said the whole there's a reason he did what he did and it's just the same that he kind of took so much shit from it all i'm here yeah you're feeling bad you're here getting goosebumps for a fucking fictional character. That's how you know it shit is my bad.

Not even getting goosebumps when I'm watching it. I'm getting goosebumps when I'm badly paraphrasing what he said. Like that's how fucking good the writing on this show is. Ah, Tony Gilroy, you're the man. We get the next episode, we meet the hospital director, Rec Law. I just had a note. What a massive human being. When they bring that hospital director in and they kind of... Oh yeah.

ISB is poking him. ISB is so hateable. What a massive human being when they bring that hospital directorate and they kind of oh, yeah Poking them is be so hateable all of them the fucking the ones in the hospital the ones later on that are just like in stormtrooper gear without the helmets. Oh, I hate them all The interrogation scene. Oh, go ahead. Yeah, I know I appreciate it. I felt like we were raw dogging as stormtroopers No helmets Like the bad batch. I was like is is this kind of, have we seen that a bunch? I haven't seen it in life. At least in line. A bunch. Definitely not a bunch. Like we might've seen it here and there, maybe in Mando at some point,

but I don't think so. I don't think we've seen a lot of that. Maybe in solo even I could see. Oh, maybe, maybe seeing that. But I don't think we've got a bunch of that. I had a note where I was like, are these the only idiots that are not idiots these the only geniuses That realize like it's actually easier to see without the helmet the rest of the idiots are not being able to hit a single Shot over there. I think that they're like we have to make the audience think that these guys are badass and can kill Yeah, our guy. Yeah, we can't have them look like the people that never hit their targets and always let the guys escape. And I've even been like, Oh,

these guys don't fuck around. They don't wear the stormtrooper helmets. Then I thought the interrogation scene was shot so well between Dejra and Krennic, where you're most of it shot at Dejra's like point of view and level and Krennic is kind of like Cut off by the screen. He feels like he's looking over the shot You just see his body for most of her when he leans down when he fucking puts his finger on her head Walks around her what a move the way boom and then walks around it like she's a fucking like turntable That was crazy and just a great scene overall Ben Mendelsohn always great I feel like they used this character very well in season 2 as well where

Him coming into the show his presence didn't feel like it took over it felt like it just slotted into where he needed to be and I liked his line. What single thing would drag me to this forsaken basement Him calling it a basement It's like, man, we kind of thought like as far as the power structure goes in Andor, Deirdre felt like she was towards the top, you know, part of Gaws, especially. And even Krennic is like, you guys are in the fucking basement. This is disgusting. Like I'm lowering myself to your level here. Like

I thought that was cool. And then even above Krennicnic you've got Tarkin and you've got you know It's like the power structure or the power dynamic of the Empire was was laid out in an interesting way And they treat their underlings which such disdain right? Yeah, rector Krennic like when Vader meets with him in Rogue One was we'll talk about next week He's like, oh you you fucking moron and Tarkin is just shitting on him all the time, right and then Uh, I mean the emperor kind of I mean it does talk down to me to recall what it is Not to the same level but and then it's like then i've noticed this a lot more and i'm sure not a coincidence But i'm looking at every person like how many little

Charms a little kind of flag how much flair do you have on your imperial uniform? And she has like the three blues and i'm like back in the day, I thought three blues, man. You were fucking big dicks, big swinging dick. I feel like you need to have some reds in there to actually you gotta have some red. Yeah. I think you're you got the double the red on top of the blue or whatever blue on top of the red. Yeah, I think so. I'm sure the five of first Legion has like an actual like course by course, you know what they do if they have this, you know, yeah, I saw, I saw a breakdown of like what some of it meant. And I was like, I can't go down this or I can't go down this fictional like rankings of you know, the Imperial thing.

I would be funny if Portnoy like started giving those out to people. It's like, oh, that would be funny. This boom, you're getting one blue. If you do this, you know, he'd be giving out reds and blues. It'd be hilarious. Um, I thought there was a funny line when the, I don't know if it was the ISP here, but the empire's going back and trying to get the Intel from the shop, the antique shop that, you know, everything was poured over with that silver water, whatever he said. The one of them is like, my cousin has an application with the ISP. And he's like trying to like, yeah, trying to like get his cousin a job in that moment. And the person's like shaking their head. And they're like, I think they're like, basically complementing the like encryption. They're like, oh,

they did a great job. Like, yeah, we would have never saw this. And the one person gives him a shake. Don't do that. Claire, I felt so like strongly like I was like, get out of there, Clea. I wanted her to escape and I was like this is a character I barely knew her name from most of the series. I was like, oh yeah, the girl in Lutheran shop. It's always helping Lutheran out. Like she was sort of like holding things together in that fucking shop. She was more vital than I ever thought.

Can I just be honest? I'll be honest here. I'll complete every time she doesn't seem, what does this bitch want right now? Like I don't want to hear it. I definitely did not know her name. I didn't even know her name going into the pockets. They forgot it. She was found her curve other in a genocide of her people or whatever, but she was always like This one and it's yeah, she fucking in the end. Oh, it's a three-person job No, it's just one bad bitch fucking up your world Empire. Yeah, I Have a note God. I'd love to play cards with K2 Mel she and Cassian that just looked like what a great night for dudes being dudes dude Seeing K2 so hanging with the fellas made his death hurt even more. Like, oh no, like just being like, oh man, you're so awesome.

I know what happens to you. I see your last moments on screen. I also revnog seems like it's like a pretty decent liquor to drink. Like it doesn't seem too hard and doesn't seem too soft. Seems like it's like a nice, I mean, I don't know though. Like if you're in the rebellion, you're probably not getting decent liquor and you probably have a little bit of a you can probably take it. So I probably wouldn't like repnog. I need someone a little lighter than repnog at this age.

But man, I think the way they were just throwing it back. Yeah, I need like what the women on Naboo drink, you know, like something fruity, fancy, barely any alcohol you could taste. Yeah, maybe like a little bit of a fruity, fruity, fruity, fruity drink. You know, like something fruity, fancy, barely any alcohol you could taste. Yeah, maybe like a double umbrella. Like if there's a double sun, you have a double umbrella. What was Mon having at the Shranjil trillion wedding? Yeah.

Did you see that story about her? She threw up, right? She threw up from spinning so much. And I'm like that made her so relatable to me. I was like, oh, my gosh. She said she was drinking iron brew, I think, which is like a Scottish like soda. And it's like a weird tasting. It's like a rustic tasting, like people say rustic banana bubble gum type thing.

But yeah, she said she threw up on set while filming that. Oh, I mean, we said like months stop fucking dancing around. Like I was watching her. I couldn't imagine what she actually went through. I have a few notes of just funny K2 lines. He had that line where he's like, do you want to know how many orders we disobeyed? And he's like, no. And he's like 17. And then he had a line where they're about to go somewhere and he's like, uh,

Oh, I was on a, I was in a parade there once the Emperor was there Like that line was so funny The rebellion obviously I noted switched up on Lutheran's crazy ass real quick, but the Imperials were giving him credit for being genius Them overhearing clay as distress signal was kind of an oh fuck moment when she's sending them the And they're listening in on it I was like an oh fuck moment when she's sending them the beep beep beep beep beep beep beep and they're listening in on it. I was like oh fuck. Just a note at the end of the episode that I had. Imagine if all Star Wars was this good. It goes back to what I was saying there where I was just like oh my god the way they explain everything out in this makes me want Tony Gilroy to like take over explaining the sequels. Just make the sequels way better

by being like this happened in this and moving parts here. And I loved Clea ending the episode telling Andor, like you owe it to Luthen, just so you know, like his sacrifice needs to be for something. You owe it to him. It's just another great ending. Yes, make it worth it. That was the line.

Oh, so good. So fucking good. And I know a lot of people were like, oh, we got to get more Gilroy in Star Wars. I think Prima said he put it on the line. Oh, so good. So fucking good and II know a lot of people were like, oh, we gotta get more Gilroy and Star Wars. I think he's done

with it now. He gave 10 years of his life to it which is understandably. Yeah. Yes. Be grateful. We got him for as long as we did and hopefully he's gonna inspire the next Gilroy to come in and do this. What about his brother that wrote The Last Ark? Got any more of them Gilroy's? Dave Chappelle over here. I need the Gilroy's. And speaking of things that

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I did notice that, and I was like, let's go. Although, was the violence really that intense? It kind of was. I guess K2 scene is always seen as kind of intense. That was bad, as it begins with K2 like merc and fools. And I noted, it felt like, you know, that classic clip of Stone Cold Steve Austin arrive and it's during the invasion

and he starts fucking people up backstage. You know, he's eventually gonna make his way to the ring and everyone's fucked. Like K2 fucking people up on his way to save the heroes. I was like, oh, this is Stone Cold K2 right now. This is just K2 Steve Austin in the best way of all time. The way the rebellion is set up and I guess all rebellions for the most part, you're the underdog and you don't really have like a fucking queen on the chessboard who just can fuck shit up no matter. We have Luke for Jedi.

That's basically it, right? When it comes down to it. Having K2 in this episode was all right. We have a fucking and fucking, and I know he ain't dying cause he's in Rogue One. Yeah, yeah. And they throw the ISB guys right before K2 comes in for the save, they throw a flashbang. That was awesome. I don't know if I've ever seen like a Imperial flashbang

shown like that, but the way it's sent the dust up everywhere and everyone kind of got thrown back and they were disoriented. That was great and then obviously like K2 coming in for the actual save. Just badass. K2 is one of the most underrated, one of the best droids in all of Star Wars. I'll do you one better Bob. He's one of the best characters in all of Star Wars. What do you think about that? Honestly I'm with you. I'm with you there. I'm at the point now as a Star Wars fan that is knee deep in a bunch of old Star

War stuff on the rewatches here. I'm ranking my top ten. I Got our two one, you know, I got our two. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I Got beat too pretty fucking high Yeah, you know, he's also that only sister so scared and I got K2 on there too I got at least three I'm a big fan of the Vicks. I don't want to be scared. And I got K2 on there too. I got at least three droids. You're a droid guy.

I'm a droid guy. Next time we go to Disney, we gotta build a droid. That's a must now. That is true. I gotta build my lightsaber. You gotta build your droid. I don't know. How many humans do I have?

You know what? I guess I don't have a lot of aliens on the list. I'm trying to who are the best aliens of Star Wars on the there's really not much. I was gonna say Bo, but he's not an alien. He's a human. Baby Yo, Yoda. Baby Yo, of course Yoda, Claude, Babu, Frick.

Babu, Frick's a high up there for me. Frick's great. We got a lot of Frick. Yeah. But then you have your Hanzo loops, all those kinds of things. Your Leia's, Vader. Admiral Ackbar. I'm going to go high up there for me. We got a lot of yeah but then you have your all those kind of things. You're liars. Vader Admiral Akbar Akbar. You

know a lot of you got a radish in this like I think it's Akbar's cousin or some **** Admiral Raddus. Rogue One Legend. A lot of them have like one line or one moment. Max Rebo, right? Yeah. Oh, Rebo. Yeah. Gotta be mentioned. Yeah. Oh, Rebo. Yeah. Gotta be mentioned. Yeah. Jabba, Salacious, Bipfortuna.

My guy K2SO is one of the fellas. He's funny as fuck. And like his and when you guys rewatch Rogue One, because I'm also going on Rogue One K2. So I forgot a lot of shit he said and does there. Man, he is just perfect. And he used a dude as a meat shield and is like the bro. And the guy is just getting lit up. a dude as a meat shield and he's like, and the guy is

just getting lit up. I was like, he's metal. Literally I'm figured metal as fuck. And I look at Alan Tudyk. He's the guy who does the voice. I didn't realize. I might, you might've said this at one point, bro. Okay.

I didn't realize this. So I'm going through his accolades. He's been in a bunch of shit. I don't really see the voice of Hey, Hey and Moana, is hilarious itself. It's like finding out voices in like every Disney movie now They love them so much. Yeah, and obviously he he's done like the Joker and Harley Quinn. He's Steve the pirate and dodgeball He was in a great show Resident Alien go check out if you like Alan Tudyk feel like his roles I did an interview. It's one of the first videos ever uploaded on this channel So just sort videos by oldest on my channel.

We talk K2, we talk all these roles and it's a great time. He's a great guy. Like I said, Admiral Raddus, I loved that. I also loved his delivery of who's Claya? Just in the middle of that meeting, I was like, who's Claya? He sounded like an old guy who like needs hearing aids. That really made me laugh.

Also seeing Mon Mothma with her signature haircut. I was like, all right, yeah, she lost her barber on Coruscant. She's on Yavin. She's got her haircut. That was cool to see. I always thought that was just a Mon decision. Maybe she's just always had the bowl cut.

That's just her thing. It's probably like she doesn't have the fancy galactic Senate or Chan, what's the, how do you say her planet? Chan- Chandrillion? Chandrillion. it's probably like she doesn't have the fancy galactic Senate or Chan what's the idea sir planet chan drillian chan drillian barber or salon you know or whatever the women call their hair cutting person and she just kind of has to make it work and that's that's kind of like me she i could just shave my head you just get the bowl cut easy peasy no frills you're in a rebellion you can't you know you're not gonna have all your frills with it and the other thing that I kind of got tick away from that, Baylor Ganna, kind of a bitch.

Kind of a little sissy-pats. Yeah, you know what? Yeah, and it was interesting to see Mon Mothma being the only one to really like believe Luther and she has good reason to believe him now after he saved her from the Senate when Bayle's team couldn't, but it was like, oh, she's the glue that

holds the entire rebellion together, for sure. When it comes to scenes like that, when it comes to talking about how insane Saw Gerrera is, and she's trying to get him out of Jedha, because she, you know, kind of knows what's happening. He's like, you have no idea where I am! I am in a cave in Jedha! It like added great context too, to how insane he is in rogue well like Rogue one You're like oh, yeah, he's a bit kooky and in this you're like oh He was holding the rebellion was held together by a thread that was fucking Saw Gerrera cuz yeah We had no idea if he was gonna be able to help gin urso at all in that point like the the context added to saw

By and or and he wasn't even in a lot of the show, was great. It was just like, oh yeah, he's a fucking loose cannon. We can't trust this guy. He is on our team. So we'll try. We'll try our best. We'll be like, get the fuck out of there. They're about to blow that planet up and he's going to yell at us, but that's okay. That's Saw. That's Saw being Saw. And I feel like that's probably a pretty common, again, when you're in a rebellion, you're dealing with a whole lot of different people from a whole lot of I'm sure there's been people like him. I'm sure they modeled them after certain rebels in different countries in history

and yeah, he's a motherfucker and mod has to. I'm kind of the person that puts it all together and she's also like the she's like they're probably like this rich bitch. What the fuck does she know? But yeah, he's making it work. He kind of has to

mediate because like Andor's frustrated. He's like, you know, he's like, you know, he's like he's like, you know, he's like he's like, you know, he's like he's like, you know, he's like he's like, you know, he's like he's like, you know, he's like he's like, you know, he's like he's like's also like the she's like they're probably like this rich bitch what the fuck does she know but yeah he's making it work has to mediate cuz like and ors frustrated his frustration felt so real too cuz you're like I've been with him on this journey I fucking know what he's

gone for like he put bubba bix aside for this you know well she put the relationship aside she made the decision for them the sacrifices again he's sharing his dreams with ghosts at this point. He's planting the seeds to the trees that he can't fucking see grow one day. This is like I was on his side. I felt the frustration. Also when he leaves, I noted the U-Wing underrated. Cassian's U-Wing is a great ship. I also loved K2's line where he goes, I plan to tell them I was kidnapped. Yeah, he does it again. That Star Wars humor, when it hits at the perfect time, it makes you laugh. And that's another reason why I love R2.

And I'd almost three people like I love R2. But they do a good job just keeping loose. K2 always does break the tension just enough. Also, the recasting of Bail actually helped because I don't want to be mad at Jimmy Smith. New Bail, I could be mad at Benjamin Brutton or whatever the fuck his Jimmy Smith. I could be mad at Benjamin I could be mad at him. It's hard to be mad at Jimmy Smith. So that's cuz that's late. I did bring up One thing that made the recast a little better for me where in my head I was still like, alright We're watching him as bail chronologically as bail as Jimmy Smith's and then as Benjamin Bratt

And then again as Jimmy Smiths, where it's like, oh, just in the middle, it looked a little different there. But someone was like, hey, Genevieve O'Reilly played Mon Mothma in Ahsoka, which takes place after Return of the Jedi. So it's actually the same thing with her. She plays Mon Mothma early here, then we get the original actress in Return of the Jedi,

and then it's her again, where I was like, all right, yeah, Star Wars, we do that here. Whatever, recastings. And it's so funny too, because Mon Mothma is the girl with the kind of weird haircut who's telling you about Bopkins, which you don't even know exists. And now it's like, oh, no, she's the fucking centerpiece of this rebellion and this whole time. And now I tweeted like, I kind of want like a spiritual continuation of the show.

Cast Genevieve O'Reilly's Mon Mothma again and show us what she went through between Empire and Jedi. Shailen you don't have to redo the Rogue One story you can make it way different with the Bothans and the plans and everything but like I'm here for Mon Mothma stories now which I never thought as a kid that's like though maybe the one scene in Return of the Jedi where you're like all right right, this is boring. This is exposition. Now she's like, like you said, the centerpiece of the rebellion. Let's be honest. If there was ever a toy out of all the Return of the Jedi toys that wasn't opened, it was the mod mod. It's a lady in our in a bed sheet. Yeah. Talking about both. And that's, that's it. Yeah, it's, it's crazy. And now, like I feel like, no offense

to the Botkin community, I kinda gotta see a bunch of Botkins get slaughtered now. I gotta see it. I gotta see it. Yeah, let's fucking see it. Let's keep it going. Just the vibe that this show had losing this corner of the Star Wars universe feels like it hurts.

It's like the serious adult Star Wars vibe. I want that to continue elsewhere. And I want all Star Wars to be held to this quality now. It doesn't all have to be serious and adult, but like show the creators of whatever the next Star Wars project, show them Andor and be like, okay, it better be up to snuff with this. I almost need, if it's going to be good, it doesn't, maybe it doesn't have to be as like adultish.

But like if you, if they get the series, they're gonna they're gonna have especially the TV shows They almost needed and I guess it's fucking disney old that they can do it put like 30 for 30, you know Pandora so it's like oh, this is the good one like 30 for 30 used to be like the the the best documentary You need to eat you need like a label on it that each of your special presentation We've talked about right like stuff like that where it's like, oh, this is like a little bit more. It's HBO going back to HBO Max like that is like boom. It's a quality stamp. Whereas acolyte you can't put 30 for 30 in front of you watch

and it's like, yeah, if you're a Star Wars fan phone for Star Wars fans, whatever. Yeah, you need. Yeah, that's a good idea. They need something to put a stamp to be like no. no, this is the HBO Sunday night show of Star Wars right now. Yeah. No, this one's one of the good ones, guys. We saw every problem. The other one is like Boba Fett. Not that great. It's like, it's a fun one. You know, it's a fun. Yeah. Like even like, again, I don't need it to be serious and adult I'll take the first episode of Mando season 2 with Cobb vanth and the Crate Dragon like that is Quality was up to snuff with and or in my mind and it's completely different It's a fun for the kids anyone could enjoy that but like hold it up to that quality

Please don't give us any more of that Jack Black Lizzo stuff And I have to say this just because I rewatched New Hope and it was in my mind. I'm just got brought up now. I personally am choosing to ignore the Anakin vs Obi-Wan part two fight. Oh, interesting. Okay. I see. I like that.

Death Star. I have chosen not to. And with this, this series was so good along with Rogue One, which I just rewatched, I am now back to picking and choosing what I choose has happened in the Star Wars universe and what hasn't happened in the Star Wars universe. I wish more people could be like you in that way, where it's like, if I didn't like it, I'll just choose to not think about it. Where instead people are like, if I didn't like it, I'll make 17 YouTube videos about it in a row sometimes where you know, maybe we're falling victim to that as well secret invasion stuff like that, but I'll just slip it in there under the radar I loved the scene where Velle and Cassian basically recap the show where they kind of like over drinks

They're like remember when we did that wrong that that was a cool like finale bringing everything together Donnie yeah I've heard people say they were there like I would fucking kill him and he's like I don't doubt that like yeah I totally trust you. That was a great scene then Nemec's fucking manifesto brought back speaking of al Donnie and part of God's listening to that and here in the The line that stood out to me hearing it now after seeing the whole show is tyranny, breaks and leaks. That one I was like, oh my God, Namek was right, because the leak was what broke them.

It was the fucking email that got sent to Dejra and she accidentally gave the, you know, whatever she had access that was able to be accessed by Jung, whatever. It was a leak. And that took down the entire empire. And then him getting the fucking gun, being like, give me a minute to compose my thoughts or whatever. Then you just hear the blaster. And there's like a little flinch from the people outside, but they all know what happened. And they like don't even react. That was cold. Yeah. The fact he did that without like, he's like about to get court-martialed and like, yeah, on there or something. I thought that was incredible. It was also like fuck like That dude was as cold as they come man. We've seen a lot of girls that do it

He's like, oh no, like Dejra we are like bleeding Gorman dry of everything and it's just like up Today's a genocide tomorrow's a genocide like nothing. Yeah, and the fact he's like, oh fuck and that was that was powerfully He's almost a throne sessor seen that was where I could see someone taking their own lives and thrones and their guards on the outside Just kind of giving each other that knowing look of like Alright, I guess I guess that's that clean up on aisle seven Just kind of how they um, they talked with you talked about like these the subordinates to the you know people who we think are so high on the org chart and then their subordinates when fucking Krennic goes if you're not a rebel spy you've missed your calling to little miss fucking Empire herself who is like you know turning her boyfriend to do whatever she wants for him and granted she didn't know everything but she knew enough I was like man that one. Yeah

and even when she knew it was bad like after after the massacre on Gorman, when she breaks, when she goes into that room and breaks, like she knew what she was doing was bad, but she was still willing to do whatever for the Empire. And then they spit right in her face when she, you know, brings them access or whatever. Oh, so good. And then seeing her, we get this final like awesome montage, you get Cassian gets the mission to meet with Tivik, which is like, oh shit, that's his mission in Rogue One. That's his introduction in Rogue One. So it's like, okay, here we go, we're getting to Rogue One.

And then you get this awesome montage. Bale tells him, may the force be with you. If we're gonna go down, we're gonna go down swinging. You start getting hyped. Cassian sees the Force Healer on his way to what you know is his eventual death spoilers Rogue one spoilers is eventual death and him locking eyes with that force healer and then we're cutting to Deirdre in the fucking Narcina seven prison or whatever So we think like is that he said that where, definitely where Andor was?

It's the girl version. So he said he was on like Narkina 2, she's on Narkina 7, but it's like the same exact yeah. And knowing she's fucking, now she's building parts for maybe the second Death Star, maybe the first, I don't even know. Probably the second, because the first is operational at this point. It's just such a satisfying end to a show that is hard to come up with a satisfying end for because we know what happens in Rogue One. Then you get the almost like the postscript of Bix. Yeah, all right. We'll stop there. We'll stop there. Can we do something on the pod? Sure.

Can we laugh at Dejra for five seconds stream? Oh, yeah. Let's get this. Everything she wanted. Claps. You idiot. You idiot. You dumb bitch.

You dumb bitch. Dejra, you thought you were going to take down the rebellion? I think you're one of the rebels. The Imperials hate you more than the rebels do. You fucking dumb whore. It's like a D from always said, you dumb bitch. I was laughing at her so hard. And then she's in the jumpsuit.

She's in the orange and white jumpsuit. That's such a satisfying end. And listen, it would be satisfying too. I thought there was a chance they were going to be like, congratulations on access. You promoted to the Death Star. And we were going to know like the last shot was going to be her looking out the window of the Death Star as fucking X-wings are approaching and we're like oh she's about to be blown up but this is almost even more satisfying it's not a quick death she's rotting in that

prison for what she did to all the people and then and or in the go ahead yeah the best part is she's then gonna get the news oh this thing that they've been building just exploded. Guess what? We have to now work double time so you fuckers won't get any sleep because we're building a second one. Oh you idiot! Oh classic. And then seeing Andor in his Rogue One jacket, I was like, it's basically like he put a fucking superhero suit on yeah, cuz I'm like oh my god That's his rogue one outfit. It's a total upgrade and then the the ps

fucking Bix With b2 who oh my god the fact that we never got b2 reunited with and or heartbreaking for sure but hope the series ends on the note of hope because and or had a kid and Bix had a kid with and or we don't know I don't even think we know if it's a boy or girl, right? I Thought I think we just see a baby. Was it a boy? I kind of thought it was a boy, too I'm now I'm like second guessing my video and they said son But I don't know if they said that just because it was just like they just said it might have been they might have said Yeah, they might have said boy at this point. My eyes are welling up with tears as I'm watching it so I'm

sorry if I can't see him junior CJ they call him CJ for short oh Cassian jr so good I've seen people tweet too the the it's not a navy search just people from rise of Skywalker and it's all the people in the galaxy showed up to you know take the Empire down he'll be in like Cassian Jr was one of those ships and I love like that you know sequel retcon whatever you want to call it rewrite could make me be like god damn right he was fucking Cassian Jr was in that fray helping take down the Empire just like his dad. So my problem was I thought she left him two episodes ago. So that was two years ago. So I'm doing the math and like, oh, so you were like, oh, she had a kid with a different guy. That's what I thought for about an hour.

And I'm like, that's some fucking bullshit. I'm like, I'm happy for you. And I want you to be happy in the end and Cassie does as well. But it kind of sucks. And then I think I might have like read or watched something and they're like oh no it's the baby I'm like oh that was last step again it's a lot of we've watched a lot of Star Wars shit the last four weeks around here so yeah I got very confused but it kind of when she's looking at the sunrise I burn my life to make a

sunrise that I know I'll never see that baby gets to see it you know as it grows up see the sunrise yeah and it's. The shot is framed exactly the same as the last shot of Andor and Gin on the beach watching the uh really it's like masterful poetry rhymes type shit. Also, Mr Mon, Mr Mon Mothma, he's out with oh yeah, some poor drunkard and not

happy. He had he had it all. He had it all. He didn't know what he had. He threw it away. He had it all. He didn't know what he had. He threw it away for just some random lady in chorus on. Some floozy that ain't no Mon. You can't put him down like Mon does. Nobody's no Mon. Yeah exactly. Nobody. Everyone was a downgrade from Mon. She was the best of us. That's Andor. Fucking bumped up. We are bumped up from Andor. Just a tremendous series.

Shout out Tony Gilroy. Shout out all the Gilroys that worked on this. The three Gilroy brothers. Shout out Kathleen Kennedy, who apparently this show doesn't happen without her. Gilroy was singing her praises. Give credit where it's due. For something this good, I'll give her credit for sure. Just thank you to the cast, the crew, everyone that worked on this.

I saw someone said 2, 2500 people worked on Andor. Shout out to all 2500. You knocked it out of the park. And shout out to Gilroy's that didn't even do anything on it. Yeah. Papa Gilroy, Papa Gilroy. If you're just, last name is Gilroy. If you're a listener, your last name is Gilroy. Shout us out. Tweet us. Yeah, let us know. Yeah. Shout out all the Gilroy's in the world. Did you notice the music at the end? Did you watch the credits? I didn't notice this. I saw it online. I don't think I did notice this. No, I had the credits playing for sure but I don't think I noticed something about the music. I did fast forward at one point to

see if there is a because there was a post credit scene on some Star Wars thing that was all **** up and I was like, I don't want to miss this one. There wasn't. I missed this though. And then I saw someone else. I think they have like the Andor music, maybe the whole season. I don't know if the whole season blends together if you watch every opening, but then it changes to the original New Hope. So go back, everyone go back. I will go back. You get bumped up. I'm bumping up. Yeah.

Because that's hope. That's fucking, you know, this is all leading to. And I saw someone else point out, like, you think in a new hope, like, oh, my God, we took down the empire. It's miraculous. And this is like, oh, no, it was slowly crumbling. And that was like a big domino that wasn't the New hope you think that's the start of taking down the Empire

It's like oh no the start it all started ten years prior almost and it was about people joining the rebellion and all Getting to that moment where Luke is able to fire those shots like Luke. You don't realize how lucky you were I actually have a couple takes on that. Okay. One, after watching New Hope and Andor and Rogue One altogether, Luke just popping up as some random desert redneck and just like joining the rebellion because his buddy Biggs did and then end up becoming and blowing up this fucking weapon that killed countless people just to like spread the news that it was coming, information it's kind of funny looking back now in a way and

Lucas Lee said no clue the fucking role he played or other people played in this fucking thing and it's so funny watching new hope back after seeing it storm troopers accuracy watching new hope and then this is hilarious because they are so fucking blind in new hope and I like to think they've been on the Death Star so long like their brains are just rotted they're probably rattled yeah yeah that's how I'm gonna um that's how I'm gonna like base it I'm not gonna we won't get into a whole thing here a debate I'm just gonna say from my point of view and I don't want to bring this up, but I just want to just say this, seeing all this stuff about the rebellion and how the empire and all the stuff they did, and then how Jedi ends, and then the way the new sequels go,

this whole stuff with like the new order, it just, it kind of hurts the new sequels. And they can make another show and they can build all that shit up. But it's like, you see all this work to take down the empire. And it's like, oh no, and then an empire clone came up ahead.

Maybe that's how real life works. Maybe take down a totalitarian regime. Yeah, I had this thought with you. I'm not gonna bring up any of the movies. I just wanna say like, I was like, fuck man. Like I felt this way. This is what got me mad in the first time I watched the new sequels

and now I feel it in a whole other way because this shit is so well done. You just gotta keep telling yourself 30 years of beast. They gave at least they gave him 30 years of beast and then the first order was only around for one year. So at least it was like a quick research but I had to recontextualize all that in my mind as well. And then like and then I'm like well then at the end like the emperor comes back and he has a billion fucking like star destroyers that are all like planet killers and I'm like oh no that didn't happen because again I'm growing and I'm saying what happened in the Star Wars

universe it's what happens in my mind in the Star Wars universe. Someone's still got to explain that for me too like we need a miniseries or something where you just say no here's exactly how they built the Empire or something and I need that. Maybe that's what I need like AI for I need like CHESGPT to just like give me some or maybe I need that. Maybe that's what I need like AI for. I need like just GPT to just like give me some or maybe I'll come up with that. Maybe that'll be my thing one

day in **** 20 years. I'll have the Star Wars series of my own and I'll explain that away. I'll be the Tony Gilroy for the next generation and as you close it as you close it on two. I like that Tony Gilroy. I mean the sauce the the juice the stank in the the put that as a double beating. It's the bear and it's Tony Gilroy because that motherfucker cooked and he made every second count from like out of a like two

sentences from the crawl in the first movie. I know yeah. Some of the best shit we've seen on TV this year and years and that kind of just I was like thinking like do I do like a fast food review for this for this show and I'm like you know I'm not gonna do that you know what This is the show this show is a nice adult dinner when you go out you spend a little more and you know It's not gonna be your typical stuff and you have to be like a French fucking fancy restaurant It can be like an American food and it's just not and it's just it's done a little bit different It's done with just you taste the ingredients are better. The chefs are better and it's like, you know what? I'm spending a little more. I'm putting a little bit different. It's done with just, you taste the ingredients are better. The chefs are better. And it's like, you know what?

I'm spending a little more. I'm putting a little more time here. But at the end of the meal, you're like, holy shit, there's like different size forks and spoons and you get them all somehow by, I mean like, oh wow, like they really, I needed all those pieces of silverware. And that's what this was, man.

It was a fucking enjoyable fucking meal from start to finish. Had its moments, like again, the appetizers, butizers We need the appetizers like somehow it all makes sense because you couldn't have the entree without the appetizers the way they were and I mean Gilroy the Gilroy sauce on top. It was absolutely perfect my I have two other questions for you one I don't know if you can answer this right now. It's so fresh season one or season two. Oh fresh season one or season two? Ooh, I'm gonna say season two, I think, based on the ending six episodes, when I think back to season one, I love the Aldani heist and I love the prison arc, especially like the prison arc

I thought was the best Aldani heist second best. I think this season, this arc that we just recapped and last week's arc go together in such a way where I think it's a better complete meal if we're talking about it and meal is so I'm gonna say season two actually. Yeah, you know, I was gonna say one. But I think that's because I how much I think like the prison break might be my favorite arc of the show. Yeah. And then the Lutheran speech. I don't know if that was that episode early doesn't seem episode. It was. Okay. Oh my God. Jesus Christ. Yeah, that was that was Gilroy's masterpiece. But like

that altogether when I think and or those are the things I'll probably think of first. But yeah, the way I mean this wraps up into a fucking awesome movie too. So it's hard and you get the you get kind of everything tied up in a nice bow and

it obviously then goes into like the movie that changed the world and New Hope so I Guess I'd have to go to How did one end how did? like with Luthen having Cassian officially join The rebellion after the the like the ferrex, you know, Gras Brasso goes back with the more of a brick. Oh, the more of the empire. Yeah. Yes. You know what? We got the Gorman Massacre. That was good too. Does that as well for two. So, you know, I'll go to as well. It's like a

photo finish though. Photo finish agreed. So close. Yeah. And my last question, which I don't know the answer to, have we gotten the Blossom Man's opinion yet? We have not on this arc. He did bring it up on the Unnamed Show, which I thought was funny. Let me see Andor go down to my text with Jeff and Dave, cause he texted us in a group chat actually. And I'll read his thoughts on the Aldani arc.

He said, well, Andor is awesome. I caught up. Best series ever. Can't believe how many episodes. I assume he meant how many episodes left. I think he was bummed that there was only three left. And he said, the Gorman massacre was insane. Imagine being a kid watching Star Wars for the first time

getting the Gorman massacre. Also, that sniper on the roof I thought for sure was going to get taken out instead of just blowing people away the entire massacre. And then he started just asking me and Jeff some questions. He said, do you guys know everyone who dies beforehand? We explained like, we don't necessarily know everyone who dies. We just knew everyone that survived because of Rogue One. Or not even everyone who survived, but some. He has for sure. And I think he likes Rogue One, but I think it's been a long time since he's seen it. He probably saw it when it came out. And it's worthy of a rewatch. If you're like Dave or you're like us or if you like anyone out there and you're like, it's been a little bit since I've seen Rogue One, rewatch it. We'll talk about it next week on the pod. And that'll be fun to talk about too.

We're keeping the Andor celebrations and festivities, like I said, going. So I think it's going to be a shout out to everyone that was on the journey with us as well. Hashtag the Andorans. I'm going to be on the Andorans. I'm going to be on the Andorans. I'm going to be on the Andorans. I'm going to be on the Andorans.

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I'm going to be on the Andorans. I'm going to be on the Andorans. I'm going to be on the Andorans. I'm going to be on the Andorans. I'm going to be on the Andorans. I'm going to be on the And and that'll be fun to talk about too. We're keeping the Andor celebrations and festivities, like I said, going. So I think it's gonna be- Shout out to everyone that was on the journey with us as well. Hashtag bumped up the whole way. All right, we'll do a little check-in now because I think this could change,

especially by the end of July and then definitely by the end of the year. Who do you think has won 25 so far? Is it Marvel because Thunderbolts hit? They had a kind of a in Brave New World, but they also had Daredevil, Star Wars, and Andor, and was Skeleton Crew this year or last year? Skeleton Crew is last year. I think they had the Tales of the Underworld, I guess. I think they had the Tales of the Underworld, I guess. Which is good, but it's animated. I think it's just a short thing.

Yeah, Skeleton Crew started in December, so I'll count that as 24. I don't think Star Wars is going to win this year, but I think they're in the lead right now. Yeah, that's how I would put it. Do they even have anything lined up the rest of the year? I don't think they got anything the rest of the year, which let's be honest. It's probably a good thing Like let's take our time. I mean like they they batted fucking

800 but they didn't play that many games Exactly. They're there that that utility player got called up in September look really good And you hope for the best and they did exactly what we needed them to do We were like they were perfect for that season because we said if and where does it hit we're in a world of trouble right now Pretty much this was just as good as I hoped I didn't know if it would clear season one I mean if I'm picking it over season one, I guess it did It's also partially because of the way it's a lump together again when you watch rogue one afterwards You're gonna love this show even more. I'm telling you. Yeah, tell you from like you said it makes the original trilogy better how could we think a fucking prequel to a prequel about a side character

would make the original trilogy like one of the biggest movies of all time better it did it it like 100 000 makes the rebellion the sacrifice everything it makes the death star blowing up more satisfying like it made the original trilogy better Another Star Wars projects could say that Hand up like by the end I did have to fuck with the man I like man this just makes me angry about the prequels and the sequels because but it's like Those things were fucked no matter what and you could say whether you loved them or hated them But man that original trilogy is like it's impossible to fucking like

It's so good. It's so great and it plays out so well. It changes the world. It's almost unfair for whether or not they were good or bad the prequels and the sequels. They just had an impossible thing to live up to. It's almost better for me that I hate them. So I don't have to go through the debate in my mind anymore. So yeah, I think you're right.

And it gives me hope for. Hope. Yeah, the movies and the future shows. I love it. Andor gave us hope. That's what he delivered and that's what they delivered with the Death Star plans that we'll talk about in Rogue One next week. Almost two hours in the basement this week. Huge jam-packed Andor Finale extravaganza. Extravaganza. And we'll see you next week for

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