My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 430 - THE LAST OF US S2 EPISODE 6/ROGUE ONE REWATCH

Episode Date: May 20, 2025

Robbie and Clem recap and review #TheLastOfUs Season 2 Episode 6 and look back at #RogueOne after Andor wrapped up! What did they think of the penultimate Last Of Us and does Andor make Rogue One better?! What aged well, and what aged poorly? Gametime: Download the Gametime app today and use code MMB for $20 off your first purchase New Amsterdam Vodka: Find your wins with New Amsterdam Vodka **************************************** My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike! Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners. You can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement, presented by Barstool Sports and a very special penultimate edition of The Last of Us recap of My Mom's Basement. And also Rogue One, we're doing Rogue One. We said we're keeping the Andorce celebrations going. It was a great idea by Clem. So I hope you rewatched it. If you haven't, you could pause this and go rewatch it and come back to the podcast. But we're going to be recapping and reviewing both I don't know if reviewing Rogue One is really

the word but just looking back on it 10 years 10 years past or nine years past. A recap. Recap review. I don't even know. I mean, it is kind of like a review now that our eyes have been opened with the end or right. We have another piece of the puzzle. And then if you guys really want to get down and dirty, if you've already watched Rogue One or you haven't, pauseed Jedi, but I'm gonna probably rewatch Jedi in the next week for the people that can't see in the pod. I got my Star Wars shirt on. I bought this shirt like a week before Andor Finale, Empire Strikes Back, $10 at Old Navy, absolutely ridiculous price. And I'm in the wars, Bob. I haven't been this deep in the war since prior around Force Awakens, I'd say, was the last time. Wow.

As much bubbly Star Wars inside of me. We have Fortnite going on with AJ, so he's into the wars now. He's watching these movies. He watches the movies with me. Then he watches the Family Guy parodies with me afterwards. So it's really gotten the fan base to a point that probably hasn't been since we started doing stuff together You know yeah, I mean Mandalorian was huge no doubt when Mandalorian came up and that was like a big thing for the fan base But it's not just you you look at the battlefront two numbers It's up day by day like more and more people are going back to that game and playing it you look at the Disney plus Numbers the top 10 Rogue One has been number one

for a few days now. And there's also like four or five projects all within the top 10, all also around the Rogue One time. It's like episode three, episode four, Rogue One, you know, everything in that time period, people are going back and rewatching. It's crazy.

But Star Wars fans are like back in Fortnite, obviously is a huge factor We're gonna be playing fortnight as we record this We haven't done it yet, but when this goes out it probably will have already happened a little after-school stream So go and check it out on my mom's basement YouTube AJ Clem is gonna be trying to carry me and Clem through some fortnight matches, and I practiced last night Clem I was sending you some screenshots. Wasn't going good for me.

Place 99th, 97th, 98th. It was like, people were saying that's impressive. There's usually not that many people in a game and I was not doing well, but I'm excited to play with AJ Clem. I think Bob died on the bus at least one of those games. I've never seen anyone die on the bus as it's flying. Like the balloon got hit by a laser and just crashed into the ocean and Bob died.

That honestly, I was like impressive, most impressive. This guy got a 99 out of there. So some people say it's hard to get 99 at first. Right. So A.G. Clem has like he just racks up Battle Royales or Victory Royales pretty consistently. So I think he's going to lead us. It's gotten to the point where I watch him and his fingers move like the people when he builds, he's building like a crazy person. and I'm gonna do the mythic challenge where you only have mythic weapons and win a battle royale with just look what the hell you're Seven years old and he just turned seven. So I hope he's gonna lead us to a victory Roy I think it's gonna be an absolute blast and

He's already like I got him the battle pass so we can get all his little Star Wars stuff He's already gotten everything unlocked. He is he's ready now This is the thing they did this kind of dirty important. I too Bob obviously you know I am a Darth Jar Jar truth er they just unveiled Darth Jar Jar he's in the store but he's in the store and he's in between how much V bucks you have to spend so you basically spend like thirty dollars just to get enough V bucks to get them and then you're gonna have leftovers plus You have to get 1.28 million XP, which I don't even know what that how much that is So I have to then grind on fortnight to then have the privilege to spend like $15 essentially

Yeah, if it's a pay-to-play why isn't it? It's like pay-to-play and then also play until you unlock them Yeah, there it's like I feel like I am Essentially Cassian and or like working to make the Death Star like I feel like I Slave to this big corporate conglomerate, but at the same point like I gotta get Darth Jar Jar Like there's only I have Thanos is my one skin that I bought Darth Jar Jar will be the second and And then I mean, are two there's not a lot of guys biggie. There's not a lot of people that I have on the list of guys I need a skin for. But Darth Jar Jar is one which I just had to share this with you in the pod. I haven't told you this yet. Um, someone was like, if Darth Jar Jar was real,

which he is if the Emperor's in Fortnite is can in his return. So is Darth Jar Jar's announcement. What would Darth Jar Jar's sith name be? Oh Darth, how do you relate it back to like Gungans, to Naboo maybe, to Boss Nass? I'll give you the punchline because I thought Darth Amissa or something. Oh, there's a punchline. I thought we were just coming up with this. Okay, what's the punchline? The answer in the Reddit thread, the best one that I saw, Darth Silius. Oh, that's really good. Oh, that is the punchline. Yeah, that's game over. Yeah, that's like game set match. That's really fucking good. I had such an embarrassing moment last night

where Devlin's been telling me, oh my God, it's so much fun once you get a lightsaber, you get force abilities, they come with, you know, the lightsabers and stuff. You fly X-Wing to god fighters? Oh, I did that. I flew an X-Wing, crashed it into the ground, didn't get a single kill with it,

but then I get a lightsaber. I meet up with the emperor on the fucking map. I go into a warp thing I come out of it with a red lightsaber. I'm like, Holy shit, this is awesome. The second I come out of the warping in here, get hit by a car, someone fucking with the Emperor skin did a fucking Dua Lipa dance on my dead body. Dua Lipa was playing right over my dead. And of course, they picked up the lightsaber or no wasn't Emperor skin. It was fucking darth maul and it was like darth maul picked it up i was just

i was humiliated he's shaking that red ass writing your face and taking your lightsaber yeah that's and it was even he hit the horn to like almost give me the warning i'm coming as soon as i can boom i don't want to make this too weird but i have to question does darth maul is he like a red ass does he have a black ass like he has like? Horns on his head. I believe all the black are tattoos. Oh, okay. Okay, so we have So I don't know he might be tatted down there too though It might be like in traditional like Samoan tribal tattoos go over the ass Really? We are this is the white tune into theasionally of SAT words. Sometimes we have SAT fun facts.

Yeah, there's some Owens. They they do. A lot of fighters have this. You'll see sometimes not just some Owens to like Pacific Islander tattoos and stuff. They'll do leg tattoos that go up over the ass and like to the mid back range and I'm sure they are extremely painful. I've heard the ass is not fun to get tattooed. I'm looking at Maui here too like Maui's tattoos, I feel like they do go up that grass skirt a little bit. So I don't know where they stop, where they begin, and where they end. So great callback. As far as basement keeping, I'm just going to tell people subscribe to the channel. Make sure

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It was the day that Revenge of the Sith and the Phantom Menace hit theaters, both of them May 19th babies. 26 years for The Phantom Menace, 20 years for Revenge of the Sith. I was going to make the Rico Bosco, why would you release a big movie like that on a Monday joke but I will not do that. I will not feed into Rico Bosco's little bits. I will not do it.

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It was just sad Clem. Even the happy scenes are sad because you know what's coming So that was that was the thing. I'm like I was trying to think of the word to describe it and I guess that is probably the the word what is they say grief is the is is joy without a the word. What does they say? Just show me every minute that Abby beat the fuck out of Joel just to end this episode Let's just go full fucking like let's ruin my soul because in case like whatever little parts of me were still alive after that episode They're just putting into a fucking paper shredder then lighting on fire and then shitting all over and flushing down a toilet. It was just not cool. I did not enjoy that one bit.

I did enjoy it, though. That's a thing. I know. It's fucked up. I think Gaz responded to my tweet last night, and he was like, Not one episode have I left feeling good, and yet I come crawling back for more every single Sunday. It's crazy because there's a lot of positive scenes. The scenes where Joel goes and finds Legos for Seth's grandkids,

the scenes where he's getting the birthday cakes made for Ellie. They're so nice and you're like, oh, Joel's the best. And then like two seconds later it hits you like, oh, and he had a very horrible death that we can never take back. It's like, what the fuck, man? Joel was the best is then what you remember. He was the best. He was the best. And now he is very dead and he died in a fucked up gruesome fashion and then they're like this world just sucks. Why do I come to this world every night at nine o'clock on Sunday? Why do I do this? And by the way, it was brilliant. Yeah, go ahead. Grief is love with no place to go. That's a fucking banger. I heard that a few months ago and I've kind of

it's stuck in my head and that kind of is what this episode is because it's what's the one division line there's one like that and one division is there is there one yeah look up one division grief because there was a banger of a quote from one division too it's very much like I'm gonna try to do my betany right cuz betany says it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is grief if not love persevering? That was the, yeah, it's almost the same exact line. Yeah, yeah, but it was fucking absolutely banger

of a line in the finale. I liked the episode kicking off with young Joel and Tommy. Like seeing that Joel has been looking out for people his entire life. Also shout out swordsman their dad Oh actual good casting. I feel like I could buy him as the dad of Pedro Pascal back then Yeah, you saw the two guys together two kids are like, okay I think this is gonna be Joel and Tommy think is a villain charming and then that comes in

You're like, all right I got it all squared away now and it just felt like it and the characters even looked like young Joel and Tommy And then you see the daddy like I know this all works now and it just felt like it and the characters even looked like young Joel and Tommy and then you see the daddy like this all works he had a flannel that my wife said this you know he got to flannel on so uh I like that that was awesome man I love that as well um Joel we'll just call what it is brother of the year what 1983 at least we'll give him the Austin chapter for brother of the year because he's like go, I'll take the belt. And you just kind of see the kind of do Joel is

all the way back then. Awesome. And you get that line in the opening scene. I hope you do a little better than me that Joel obviously brings back around in the final scene with just, if they didn't get your heartstrings with the entire episode, they fucking took a hedge clipper to him there at the end,

which I hope you do a little better than me, but ugh, just, they gotcha. We talk about what it's like watching this series with your 10 year old daughter, and there are definitely some bumps along the way. And I said, Sienna, I just want you to remember that line. I just want you to remember that, because we're getting the preteen,

we've been getting the preteen glimpses for the last couple of years, and especially in the last few weeks. So it's like, just remember, like we're trying our best. We don't know what we're doing. It's a road. There's no road map. Even when you can lean on your parents all you want, but you're just flying blind. You're not using the targeting computer like Luke. You're just fucking going on the boards and you're going on the stuff that you remember worked with your parents didn't work what works for you. What doesn't work

Yeah, and this dad's clearly do the same I guess have they mentioned what happens to is the mom it seems like she's not around so I don't know Unless I forgot it from season one, but I don't think it did yeah What happened? I'm not sure about that Last of us. Let's see if we get, if Google can give us anything. Uh Sarah, Joel's daughter, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Oh no. So, apparently, well, Sarah's mom left Joel. So, we don't, I got the answer to that one. I don't

know what happened if Joel's mom, if Joel's mom was not around but we know, um. Yeah. we know his wife left as well so tough tough tough breaks for our guy Joel. I do gotta give them credit and take something back I don't think I took this back last week when we had Liam Crowley on I gave The Last of Us some shit for Ellie picking up that guitar and playing it right away without tuning it and then I rewatched the episode and realized she fucking tuned it so I was like oh I'm the asshole being like they didn't tune it when that scene was probably put in there Just them thinking like there's gonna be some fucking asshole that says that the guitar wouldn't be tuned and every guitar scene since then They've had a quick scene. Like even if it's two strings, they fucking tune it up real quick

I thought the guitar repair scene in this episode where Joel like I thought the guitar repair scene in this episode where Joel like Cuts the fucking bridge out of the the bone and he puts it in and he puts an inlay in the fretboard I thought that was almost as satisfying as the would be repair scene in Toy Story I wanted the Joel guitar repair extended cut like show me ten minutes of Pedro Pascal fixing that fucking guitar You see the amount of work he puts for, what's that little bone that he has? Is that like another pick or something like that? I think it's just a bridge like, do I have a guitar over here? It's just like the bridge of the guitar.

Pick up Chad from the Hamilton's guitar. It's just this part where the strings would go over and on an acoustic guitar you need that where it's like it gives the, I think it gives them a little like it fixes the tension and and the the way the guys are laid from the frets. Yeah. Okay. So he so those were important because I was feeling he was I thought he was doing a lot of that work just for like you know like a visual thing but I said you really do appreciate how everything in this world you have to fight for you have to fight for you to barter for he talks

about the coffee later on um and just to like get all this stuff to make this guitar because you can't just go to **** the guitar center and pick up a guitar. It is you just really do appreciate it and I mean hey Joel make room on your trophy

self shelf next to the brother here because I think he wins that of the year for this year with the guitar. He definitely wins it and did you notice the easy baby girl he had to her early in the episode? No, I didn't yeah, but what he called Sarah, right? Yeah Once you hear the the baby girl, you know Joel's in dad mode because that's what he used to go Sarah and you hear it for the first time with LA I believe After she beats that fucking monster David and kills him and goes out of the

fucking fire cabin like all disheveled not knowing what's going on and he kind of like yeah this is easy baby girl god damn this fucking show man you're a fact see you next Sunday thank God it's only seven episodes you know I was like I know yeah I don't need this shit in my life we can only handle it in short spurts it's like all right let's fucking take a year off and we'll get back to it next year. The NFL keeps expanding the season as the Giants keep getting worse. And I'm like, no, seven week seasons for now on NFL. How does that sound? Obviously, Ellie burns herself. That was something we knew was coming, but she does it. It's sad to see like a young Ellie do it. This was also an

episode where we've talked a lot about the Bella Ramsey casting. It's sad to see like a young Ellie do it. This was also an episode where we've talked a lot about the Bella Ramsey casting. It's been such a like narrative of this season as is Bella Ramsey miscast in this whatever. I think she's very obviously better at playing a young Ellie than an older Ellie. The five years later Ellie is a little bit harder to buy. I still buy it. I'm still on her side on this one. But when she's playing a younger Ellie and a little more innocent, I felt her performance was a lot more believable like in this episode in particular. See that's why I didn't have a problem with the season one Ellie. I'm sure people have had a problem this whole time especially if you play the games which I'm sure some of my favorite games like if I watch the Final Fantasy

7 show I'd probably be like this character that this character, that's not her, she's not nearly believable enough. That's just how it goes. As someone that has no, like, other than I played probably 15 minutes of the game, and I was like, this is way too scary for me, I can't compare it to that. But I also do have that criticism where I think when her and Dina are together,

it just seems like they're just silly. And then I'm watching an episode like this, and I'm like, okay, now I understand the Nora scenes. That's the kind of value I can understand now. She's gone dark and she's going to get revenge for this guy that gave her all these great memories. And then it's like, we're just fucking around and, you know, playing guitars and singing.

And I'm just like, in a world where literally anything living or not living can kill you. It just seemed crazy to me. And Joel plays her a heartbreaking song on the guitar, which I looked up because I was thinking like, was that a song? Was that an original song for the show? Funny enough, it's a Pearl Jam song from 2013. So Joel predated the Pearl Jam song. You must have heard Eddie Vedder record a demo of that somewhere. It's got future dates by Pearl Jam song. You must have heard Eddie Vedder record a demo of that somewhere. It's called Future Dates by Pearl Jam. That was in, I believe the last episode ended with that as well or two episodes. I saw- No, was it that one? I remember Pearl Jam. It said Future Dates, Pearl Jam, and I go, oh, Seattle Band. They're in Seattle, right,

Pearl Jam, Seattle Band? Yeah, yeah. That makes sense. You have to know what their original name was. I know it because I'm a basketball fan. I'm not a Pearl Jam guy at all, so no. They were originally called Mookie Blaylock, or at least that was one of their names, and he was an old NBA player. And it's just the greatest name, Mookie Blaylock. I love that name. And then when I heard they were Mookie Blaylock, I'm like, well, that's fucking incredible. Shout out to whoever came up with that name. I became a Pearl Jam fan for life just based on that fun fact alone. Yeah, they're one of my biggest blind spots.

I'm not a hater-hater. I've just never fully clicked with their music. And again, my biggest fan, I mean, I like a couple of their big hits. And I bought a couple of their albums. I probably listened to all the commercial hits and that was it. But I got nothing of my love for Pearl Jam a K I thought maybe the saddest scene of the episode was the The museum scene where they brings her to the dinosaur in the woods. They go to the museum

He tells her you got to pick an astronaut helmet, you know He gives her the rock pick pick which one you want to wear just seeing him be an awesome dad Like I actually had in my notes Joel being a great dad in the museum is so fucking sad to watch. And then I went back and I erased the word great. And I said Joel being an awesome dad in the museum is so fucking sad to watch. He was an awesome dad. I mean make some room on that trophy shelf next to the brother of the year and the dad of the year because I think we might have a dynasty starting for

dad in the year. That's what I thought at the time. Because I think the Museum One trumps, the guitar is a lot of work. The Museum One, it's like, he probably did a lot of work for that, because they're not gonna go to a place where he thinks there's any chance she's gonna be in danger, right?

And he knows what she loves. He greased up the planetarium. Yup, exactly. Almost like someone greased it. And as a dad, you know the amount of work that goes into the birthdays and the Christmases and all this kind of stuff. And I did say to Sia, I'm like, man, look at just how nice a dad she has right there. They do everything for her. And she's like, yeah, dad, I know. Stop giving a shit right now. And I said,

I sure hope, because my birthday is in two days. And I'm like, I sure hope you guys have a gift just as thoughtful lined up for me, you know It's two days away. This is the Clem birthday episode, too We'll throw the extravaganza tag on this way 30 this year. Yeah You're you're how close are you to 30 Bob you're like three years away, right? I'll be 27 in in July. Oh my god. Once the babies start turning 30 like I was like you balls smokes all like that next

generation. Yeah, smokes is close. Smokes is one year away. I think he doesn't like it. Well, I guess his birthday just passed the thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I would you say the astronaut? I think the astronaut scene was like the most like that. I think that the gift and her reaction to it, like that's something a guitar is very thoughtful.

You can somebody you could hold. But I feel like that little moment she had where how the fuck did he track those tapes down? I want I know. Yeah. A lot of work. I'm like a lot of work is to get like a can of fucking spaghetti. you're getting this is a miracle Yeah, I'm here. Yeah, this was a miracle This is more of a miracle than if they had discovered the cure from Ellie he gets it and even though Some people might not have liked how they turned They'd actually animated into her like living as the person flying into the space into space I thought that was cool

and I think it's one of those things that like That would be like the last thing before you die is your life goes through your, goes through your eyes. You probably remember that as like your most cherished moment. I thought it was awesome. Yeah, I thought it was awesome too. I love like the immersiveness, like she was buying into it all the way. Like she was just like having such a good time on her birthday. It was like, again, it's just like we were having a sad watch happiness. Yeah. And then it was crashing down very quickly Did you see that Joel to had the tear as he was watching? Yeah, and I was like, yeah

And I was like, I mean again fuck you HBO. I'm Actually, you know what? This one was still technically on max. So I'm gonna say fuck you They're not changing HBO max for like another month or so Won't say fuck you HBL because they're not changing HBL max for like another month or so Many gets with the chocolate cake the next year which we knew is a little harder to get chocolate than vanilla So was he went through the extra effort the name was spelled right this time. It wasn't Eli. It was Ellie and He goes to give it to her in the room. He hears some chatter in the room. She was I don't know It wasn't sex. It wasn't an experiment. But probably I don't know some smooching was happening in that room with her new tattoo artists. And I thought there was a

really funny moment in this scene where he's like 17 by the way. She's like well I'm 19. So and he just gives her a look like get the fuck out of here. And that look Pedro Pascal gave her cracks me up. I have to admit it kind of gave me some hope about humanity when like they still do have like the age of consent in this lawless godless world. And I was like, all right. And granted it's Jackson, which is like a place where there are rules and community, yeah, civilization, a community established. So I was like, all right, that's good.

Um, but yeah, man, Joel, a little homophobic though, too. He was like, he was like a girl. You don't know what you're saying I didn't know how to process that Experimenting and all these kind of words and it's like Joel's from Texas. I don't know I and it's 2004 without you know, like they're not it's not now but you know Time stopped in 2002. The world was a different place. It was yes I think I'd read that like the outbreak would have happened before like gay marriages were Legalized and all that kind of stuff

So you do have to kind of think that the world just stopped and probably goes backwards in their views for a lot of that Yeah When the fucking entire world is falling apart and again Joel being from a different world different time all that kind of even later You know earlier rather in this season later in the episode they show a flashback of it but all that stuff yeah world's a little bit more of a of a rough around the edges place yes and i don't know like you said you said you say smoochin yeah it's a very i mean it was at least smoochin the buttons were coming down too there's probably some hand stuff if we're being honest is hanky panky, hanky panky doesn't mean the whole, we're going home run, right?

Hanky panky could be second, third. It's like an extra base hit, right? There was some hanky panky going on there. That sounds like it was used in the 40s. I don't know if hanky panky could be anything. Well, that's what I'm saying though. That's like a 40s term. We're leaving it innocuous on purpose.

Like we don't wanna know, but it wasn't just like pecking at the very least. There wasn't pe purpose. Like, we don't wanna know. Yeah. But uh there was it wasn't just like pecking at the very least. There wasn't. No, no, probably not. It was also, I was thinking like, as a guy with currently fresh tattoos on my

arm, I was like, Jesus Christ, that's like not the time to be smooching. That thing's gonna get infected and well, I guess maybe she's immune to tattoo infections. Maybe she's immune to all infections. All infections. Yeah. I I love it the way she's like, you know, sex drugs with the weed and like

rock and roll with the tattoos. He puts the joint out. He's like what the fuck is going on? Like the urgency with which he was putting that joint out made me laugh. I you know what else made me laugh was the next scene when he goes and sits down with Catherine O'Hara.

She's like do I have a fucking sign around my neck like I'm Lucy from Peanuts? Like that line, the way she delivers it. Not a friendly person, but a very funny line. And then she tells him about the moth. The moth means death. At that point, I was like, go find her some pop punk cassettes because she needs him. She's got a Nirvana poster on the wall. She's practicing her questions for Joel right before he barges in. That was like a oh shit scene. She's practicing her questions for Joel right before he barges in that was like a oh shit scene She's getting ready to ask him about everything But uh yeah, she needs some fucking pop punk assets

Maybe she like does this story just end with Ellie move into Seattle and just getting really into Nirvana and shit like that Like and a little bit old Pearl Jam. I definitely see that I could definitely definitely see that being the case It was also just good to know that Gail fucking stunk before Eugene died It's not like she was just you know Beacon of light for the town and then her husband died and she became this fucking raging alcoholic bitch She was a bitch beforehand and I get it. Hey, everyone's cut from different cloths Goddamn guys going through some stuff with his kid that he's raising on the fly You have to throw the fuck the Lucy line was good good though. At the same point. That was funny. I laughed

at that. And she's also, this is the other thing though. She's a Tigers fan. She's probably a fan of Detroit sports, Detroit sports. So that's before the Pistons win lions that were garbage that whole time. You know, they obviously had a Sanders or Tyler early. They don't even get the Megatron years to really enjoy that. Let's see, the Tigers are shit. It's a miserable existence, it is. And the Red Wings had a run, but if you're not a hockey fan, you don't care about the Red Wings, you kind of want them to some of the other teams.

So I mean, fuck Gal, but at the same point, I understand. Then we get Ellie's first patrol, which is her birthday present this year, and it goes badly pretty quickly. Like Joel tells her it's the safest patrol and she's kind of like, oh great, like I get to have no fun on my birthday. And then you get the visual of the horse running in the fucking woods with the body it's dragging

like the rider that used to be on top of it. Holy shit, that was one of those classic like zombie movie visuals where you're like, oh my God, it's about to go down. And then we find out Eugene is fucking Ralph Ciforetto. of those classic like zombie movie visuals where you're like, Oh my God, it's about to go down. And then we find out Eugene is fucking Ralph Sifiretto. He's in witness protection after the Sopranos. He changed his name to Eugene, married Catherine O'Hara.

And yeah, we see why Eugene's death was so sad. He was bit, he's begging and pleading to go back and say his final words. And Joel kind of tells him he can, starts leading him, Ellie's really pressuring Joel, like does the whole handout thing count to ten, and Joel shoots him. Then they go back and Joel tells Ellie like let's just fucking tell his wife that everything was fine, good death, Joel tells him you know had to do it, he did it himself. Then Ellie just fucking completely spoils that whole plan. Tears in her eyes, she felt betrayed

because he swore to her, she saw the same look in his eyes as when he swore about the hospital and it just made her snap. And it's just sad to watch everything go down. It's sad to watch her snap like this. It's sad to watch them back on the porch, the final scene where she finally is like, what happened in that hospital were there Raiders?

What was going on there was their chance for a cure? He also straight up nods his head. Yes, like they were gonna cure the fucking thing I don't know if that was even a foregone conclusion. I thought it was like a We're gonna try we're gonna have to kill her and we're gonna try but I don't even know if they they knew they were gonna Friggin cure humanity. It was sad I don't even know if they they knew they were gonna friggin cure humanity. It was sad To hear her be like my life would have purpose and you robbed that from me And he said I would do it all over him because I love you the way he delivered because I love you Oh, oh, it was so good. And then he hits the as we mentioned before

I hope you do a little better than Milan just a master class from Pedro I love you in a way you'll never know or understand until you have one of your own and and then you know the eyes his eyes just fucking gallons. I yeah forget about being able to cry being able to keep that gallonage in your eye. You can fill a 15 round pool with the amount of fucking water our boy Pedro had in his eyes there and I was thinking the same thing like he probably couldn't say well, Ellie, it's tough to say if they were going to have a cure because like yeah, true.

I think in the I think Kevin had said KFC and said that like it wasn't a given it didn't seem like a given to us in the show at this point even Marlene. I think it said it's a chance but also I think KFC had said that like in the game there it's known that there's been there were like a hundred kids that they had tried this on and the I kind of respected that. He just kind of was like, I'm just gonna take my lumps and if she's gonna fucking dead me, she's gonna dead me. But that amount of water in the eyes, Bob, I'm gonna say it right now.

I got our hashtag for the week. Oh. Hashtag, Emmy for Pedro. Give the man an Emmy. Yeah. Basically one and a half. You know what? I was gonna say just this one episode.

You're giving this episode plus you're giving the beat down episode with the death. Emmy for Pedro. Let's fucking get it going, right? Listen, I'm with the Emmy for Pedro always. I want to see that guy win everything. I want to see him succeed. I want to see him just win at life.

I will say I was thinking about this this week. Is the Last of Us going to be nominated against Andor? Will Andor get Emmy nominations? They should. Part of me thinks because it's a Star Wars show and maybe because not as many people watched it as say a Mandalorian That they'll kind of skim over it But I hope they don't because and or deserves Emmy nominations for sure Like it should be fucking Diego Luna nominated against Pedro Pascal here

And I'm fine with either one of them with and you might even want to throw fucking Stellan Skarsgard in there I don't know if you want to give him lead or supporting but like there's a lot of people on and or that I think deserve nominations and I hope they get him. Yeah, that's actually a good point. And me for Pedro me for Diego me for I got how do you say Scars guard? How do you say the first name? Ellen Scars guard? I think Ellen Scars guard. and about the end of our Joel experience. And again, I would have probably fun if they had just showed him getting killed again. Like they just, they were like, they stayed like, they didn't like beat us to death like Abby. They like skinned us to death, you know? Like they just kept off a layer every fucking like five minutes.

I loved, I did love though, I like one year later, one year later, which and we're good every week. They did this, you know, every five minutes or whatever with the birthday gifts. I thought that was so cool. Shout out to what Ralph Sifireto for just embracing the bald. He didn't even try to wear a to pay anymore. It would have been hilarious if he was like she was a who? Yeah, just one more.

Yeah, I need to tell her something. I need to tell her about that who it was a fucking horse Joel. Oh yeah, it was a horse. I was gonna say RMP my dog Ralph Sifireto. I fucking loved Ralph Sifireto. The first time I watched it. He is comedic value but you do hate him. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. I

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Eugene. It was swearing and letting Ellie see that same look. And I think that writing was like, awesome. Like I think that was great. And I think that's going to probably be a lot of the Abbey side of the story where you see both sides. I could, cause I, I think we've probably been there where like our parents where it's like you promised, but then you look at it from their end, it's like, no, they had to do that at the same point. I think they had to do it here. And I think Joel just, again, Joel didn't have that, not even a skeleton in his closet. He had a fucking legitimate cemetery in his closet from a hospital of innocent people and doctors and whatever it may be. That made it tough for him. And then like same with, I want to get upset at Ellie for just spilling the beans the way she did But at same point like a you're a teenager

They're gonna do that shit for stuff that they're right about let alone stuff They're kind of wrong about and when you have all that shit that private and burning inside her for years So very well written This is the kind of stuff that I love in the last of us and it's the kind of stuff that I wish we had A little more of we'll see what happens next week And we're gonna see what happens in the fucking next season Cuz we didn't get any at none next season's the Abby season I guess yeah

Like KFC said the second half of the game is the Abby half has to be the Abby season and maybe that'll get people back In if people were kind of like so so with Belle Ramsey is the leading woman as far as the season goes Maybe next season will be more for them. I don't know and maybe they can like give That actress steroids now that you know how many people are she yeah, she's just gonna look like Barry Bonds inflatable I was like SpongeBob like that friggin picture SpongeBob All right before we get into Rogue One. Let's tell everyone about another spent sponsor new Amsterdam vodka Let me go grab the bottles right over here sponsor, New Amsterdam Vodka. Let me go grab the bottle. It's right over here. Pop the bottles. We gotta show everyone

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They took it off topic at every turn. So it was very funny. I'll ask a question after you finish the read. I just have a random question. I did finish the read. That is the read. So I've seen the name Daniel Cormier a lot. I don't know much about him.

What Star Wars character would you compare him to? Ooh, this is good. I've seen a lot of him. I've seen a lot of him. I've seen a lot of him. I've seen a lot of him. I've seen a lot of him. I don't know much about him. What don't know much about him. What don't know much about him. What Star Wars character would you compare him to? Oh, this is compare him to? Oh, this is compare him to? Oh, this is

good. So, Daniel Cormier good. So, Daniel Cormier interesting. He is he's like interesting. He is he's like he was cursed by John Jones he was cursed by John Jones being in his weight class like if John Jones didn't exist,

people would talk about Daniel Cormier as one of the goats people would talk about Daniel Cormier as one of the goats but John Jones beat beat him at every turn. So it's it's kind of like he would have been still as one of the goats before being lost to John Jones, but it's just he could have a guy. Yeah, maybe like wedge Antilles where he's kind of the number two in the rebellion where Luke was always number one. He's got a little more respect within the community than Wedge had but like as far as you know you know if you I know like I know I I I think Wedge is not bad though. Is he Han then? No Wedge is probably right Wedge is probably right but I think in the UFC community Daniel Cormier gets more respect than Wedge got in the rebellion community. Okay okay that's fair's fair, because there's really,

bad guys is tough because the Sith only goes two. Maybe like prequels, are we talking like, who's Anakin and who's Obi-Wan? I guess you can't- Honestly, Anakin and Obi-Wan's a good comparison for John Jones and Daniel Cormier. That is John Jones only one? Because like, he made everything by the book

his whole career. John Jones is Anakin because he went down a dark path that we can't follow. That's true. He's a bad guy. So I think that's actually, that's pretty good. He's Obi-Wan to John Jones is Anakin, but you know, Anakin is Anakin. If Anakin wins the Mustafa battle, cause it sounds like he's Anakin in the revenge of the Sith video game alternate ending I hope you all follow it along if you're even I was gonna say if you're UFC Star Wars fans

But if you're not UFC fans, we just contextualized it for you All right, Rogue one. We did the rewatch a lot of people did the rewatch number one on Disney Plus I got a lot of tweets of when I tweeted. Oh my god I can't believe how much better and or makes this movie a lot of people replied. Hey, I just did the exact same thing I agree. I just did the exact same thing. What'd you think about this? So I'm excited to talk about this. I loved it when it came out I would say it was probably a four-star Star Wars movie when it came out for me if Empire and A New Hope or Five-star Return of the Jedi is probably four and a half star maybe a little step below that

I would put Rogue one right with like the force awakens or for me the last Jedi but like it's in that Four-star realm for me after watching it post and or I think I bump it up a half star club I think I go four and a half now There's a whole lot of star talk on this podcast when I'm pretty sure we don't use that. I mean it is Star Wars. But I believe we use a different system on this show. Would you like to update your rankings here? The ball scale? Yes, they're four and a half balls. Four and a half balls we're talking about.

Yeah. I don't know because we have a couple different scales now. We have the ball scale, the fast food scale, the good or great scale. This is a great movie. I feel confident hitting the great word on this one. That's no question about it in my mind. And we also have another scale altogether for the people that make these said movies and that's the science scale and I think I think our boy tony What do we say a plaque? We're giving him a plaque down there, right? Well, we said initially I said he's got a sign and we said he's got the sauce Maybe he gets like a mug on the desk and we'll reevaluate post and or he for sure gets a plaque at this point

He gets the plaque He has a plaque and it says like Tony Gilroy and then in my mind it's neon pink has the sauce in fucking big letters and he has a mug for whenever he comes to the base. This is we have put him this is essentially he might be the first member of the basement Hall of Fame. I think he might be. He honestly could be like he honestly put together a start to finish narrative in Star Wars that changed the original trilogy for the better in a way we never could have anticipated. And every time we were like, can they live up to the expectations?

They did. Every time. Even watching Rogue One, I feel like I should give him like, re-praise the movie because I'm like, oh my God, he landed the plane with rogue one, even though that was the start of everything. And I want to be like, how easy is it to do this? Could you do this to other movies? I'm like, you have to make a good fucking TV show, let alone a great one. It's so hard to do what he did. And he did it is again, shout out the entire Gilroy clan from mama Gilroy, the people not even related to him. I, I can't believe it. Dude, we, we like Rogue One. We really liked Rogue One when we first saw it. Yeah.

And now the fact that it's that much better. It's crazy to me. It's crazy that 10 years later, this rewatch for me really like, uh, recontextualizing everything 10 years later, not only through Andor, but just knowing they've tried a lot of Star Wars projects at this point. Some of them have worked, a lot of them haven't. Rogue One being the very first spin-off, it having apparent production like troubles and reshoots and all of that, and it coming out as good as it is, it's crazy, it's that much more impressive that this was the first step towards what does the Star Wars universe look like outside of the Skywalker saga in live action, at least on the big screen.

And they fucking did it. They pulled it off back then. It's even better now. Let's get into it, cause I have a lot of notes. Let me just say this too, for my rating, I'm looking here. So I've, we talked about on last week's podcast. I blogged my review as soon as I got out of the movie theater and my rating at the time, this was pre ball system. I believe this was 2016

So this is before burgers and beers who's in who's in and burgers and burgers who's in burgers was a franchise 8.4 or 5 out of 10. So if you do the math there we're going that's a 4 point That's that's a 4.25 out of yeah in terms of balls So I'm right there in terms of the pre and it's probably up to like a four point. I don't think I can put it. I guess I can put four point five. I think but if I'm already at four point two five, is it only getting point two five more? Alright, whatever four point six seven. We're

going four point six seven balls on here. I love that they kept a galaxy far far away to kick off, but didn't do a crawl. That was another thing that I remember leading into Rogue One. There were questions. Are they going to do the, I have a bad feeling about this. Are they going to show C-3PO in R2-D2? Are they going to do a crawl? Are they going to do the things that every Star Wars movie so far has done, or are they

going to break the streak in a lot of ways? I felt like this was a good way of doing it. That being said, now in hindsight, let me praise the acolyte for a second, I think you could do a crawl without doing the crawl. When the acolyte gave us just like, here's what the universe looks like, or it was a quick like two paragraph thing,

you could do something like that nowadays. I also thought the like, Rogue One title card, when they put Rogue One on screen and it does the little hero theme. It's good, it's fun, I don't have an issue with it. The movie could definitely have done without that. Like you watch it back and that almost was jarring to see. Yep, and at this point they're dealing with,

oh God, we don't wanna piss off the Star Wars fans and we don't wanna like soil the stankty of the original trilogy even though I think the prequels kinda did that. Which by the way, I have a lot of my blocks. Sorry, I still would, I go, I almost puked when I saw that one of the settings was a trading post.

Trading post Star Wars equals bad Phantom Menace memories. Sorry, I still have a bad taste in my mouth from typing Phantom Menace, fuck the Phantom Menace. So everyone's like, Clem's just starting to get, Clem's negative ever since The Last Jedi. I had these feelings about the prequels way before I, Arsenal Sports was a porn, let alone I, you know, got into the last Jedi. So there's a lot of different shit in here and I think the fandom, the fandom is

that's I think the biggest takeaway from this entire Andor to Rogue One to New Hope that everyone's going through. It's reinvigorated the fan base, like you said, down to the battlefront. Everyone is just jacked up right now. Yeah and I remember seeing this on opening night. People were really jacked up for the first Star Wars, it's not prequel, spin-off. We were like, what is it gonna be like and everything? Me and my brother go, I went twice on opening night,

once with my sister and my brother-in-law, then my brother gets off work late, meet him at a different movie theater, go to see it twice. And that opening shot when we see Krennic ship coming in. I remember the people behind us me and my brother as excited as you could be, you know, diehard fucking tattoos Star Wars named his kids after characters that bumped up the people behind us. We're going, Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, here we go. Oh my god, like, over the top out loud for the whole theater to hear. And I'll never forget my brother just turn around and goes relax.

He turns back around and we just watched the rest of the movie. It was so and we weren't trying to rain on a parade, but also you're taking us out of the fucking movie. We're trying to immerse ourselves in the galaxy far far away and not here like over the top fanboy. Oh my God. Here we go. Oh my God.

It's fucking sorry. Can you believe this? He just went relax. It was total dad moment I think you have to do that though to the nerds because like it can that could ruin the experience for everyone else and you Should have that joy that joy is why these movies are made and why they keep making billions of dollars, but you can't like Relax you said it like, relax. You said it best. Mike Fox said it best. Krennic's introduction with the Death Troopers, I wrote, is the definition of aura farming. They could have landed a lot closer and they chose not to so they could have the most badass

looking walk of all time. I also love his line when he's talking to Galen and Galen says Lira's dead and she fucking comes running up with the gun or whatever and he's like, oh, there's Lira back from the dead. And and he just he doesn't even look at her doesn't even give her that respect So good the death trooper picking up the stormtrooper doll like everything about this opening is shot in such a badass Serious way it introduces you to that and or serious more adult aimed Star Wars corner of the universe that Tony Gilroy fucking obviously served up on a platter for all of us here. And he did it well.

I was like, what kind of a kid has a Stormtrooper doll? And then I'm like, oh, AJ has a Stormtrooper toy, a Stormtrooper costume. The thing he wanted most important was the Stormtrooper skin. So it kind of made sense. One of the bars that was spit there, you're confusing peace with terror. Absolute incredible line there.

Really good. And I think we talked about this because it goes, oh, I have right here. We were on the verge of greatness. We were this close to providing peace and security to the galaxy. And then Galen says, you're confusing peace with Terry. He goes, well, we have to start somewhere. I mean, our boy, Krennic, is cooking too. They're both cooking back and forth. Two awesome actors, obviously, that we love on the show.

I know, yeah. And I think we might have talked about this at one point, discussing Rogue One. Do you get almost the way he's acting dumb, it's very much like the opening scene of Inglourious Basterds, right? Yes, totally, yes. It feels like this was like, and you get that, I felt that in Andor this season when he goes up to Bix and they're checking their citizenship or whatever, like that stuff was very inglorious bastards to me as well. And I like the way that they made the Imperials feel

like that, not only in this movie, but in Andor as well. I also wrote, how crazy is it that they gave their kids to Saul Guerrera, knowing what we know about Saul now? That they were like, this is the guy we'll trust with our child, our young girl. Yeah, it also like gives context to like, okay, Jenner. So yeah, her mind's all fucked up. She's like the rebellion. No thanks. Because she was raised by Saw Gerrera.

Yeah, everything that happened to her, you can't blame her for any. It's like kind of what my thing with Jenny from Forrest Gump, everyone hates Jenny, like that girl had a really fucked up life. And that was her biological father that fucked her up. This saw fucked her up in a whole different way, which is probably not as bad. Definitely not as bad. but the guy like I could see Galen talking to his wife and he's like, she's like, but honey, he just huffs fucking gas or whatever. Rhydonium or yeah. And at this point, the empire and surviving and destroying them is bigger than just having your daughter get raised by like her preschool teacher or something down the road. I feel like that would be the better

way to go about it instead of a revolutionary taking on the galactic fucking empire right as soon as they establish power or are going to another level. So yeah, that's a good point. And that was great seeing saw, right? Yeah, there he is. And you see the blue milk and in tubes. Yeah tubes tubes Um First star star wars project without john williams as well Not in general clone wars I know but like first star wars movie without john williams The score is great I think they proved that they could do it without him like that main hero theme feels pretty iconic

Maybe it doesn't feel as iconic as like a john williams theme But they weave in the john williams themes They do the force theme they hit the force theme as they're leaving the fucking as Yavin one of the times right. Really cool, I think it's the first Star Wars project that labels planets on screen too which we love. Yes we love and it gives you a little bit of um Guardians vibes I think we talked about right or it has it in the big letters and to be clear I wanted to clear I know all right two things one the Alright, we were going on the fly. I almost forgot Yoda then baby I was just happy I remember that then we got into the max Rebo conversation Once you talk about three, but all bets are off I

Forgot what the other oh that's for the Hall of Fame in the basement I'm just letting you know like guys like James Gunn George Lucas like they they are already there with the basements built They're already like on the fucking wall there and the banners. They're already in the ring of honor I guess you can say they built the basement. They built the basement. Yeah, it's their fucking foundation is their fucking work You know the building blocks there. So Tony Gilroy was not down that building the basement But he's fucking here now and he is a bug for his life I had to just add that in the x-wing and then Ido fucking rule. It's just fucking yeah, and the rogue one song It doesn't slap which

I don't think is even a word anymore but it hits it's like one and a half it's like yeah and have balls less than slaps yes I'm with that yeah also insane how well and or bleeds into this movie with caskins still seeking specific details and what the weapon is who Galenen Erso is, Jedha, and just knowing okay things are happening over Jedha, like that opening scene, it also makes a lot more sense that he's like willing to kill this guy right away, days after Luthen's killing fucking Lonnie Jung and he had to kill Mon Motha's driver, I know that was at this point like a year prior to this or whatever but everything about that makes more sense it makes

It's so quick. I remember being like that first scene It's just or the first couple scenes just way too much to take in cuz I don't know. Yeah these fucking guys I don't need these planets and with Star Wars if you're like a casual like me It's like am I supposed to know these and then if I'm not in by missing a ton of stuff by not knowing it And then it turns out no like You gotta you to live in the gilroy world to get all this So this is prime example one a of why that show just made everything else so much better right off the bat and I have to Have to put the hand up this one hurts In my blog I said cassian is a bootleg. It was a bootleg ober and martell and I won't hear anything. Otherwise

hand up by the way Pedro and diego and diego. I know yeah I don't know if it was a bootleg over in Martel or anything otherwise and by the way, Pedro and Diego. Diego. I know. Yeah. Pedro. Yeah. That hurts now that I have but at the time, after one viewing of Rogue One, that's how I felt because he was built up so big and I

didn't think his role was as big. He was kind of the one A one B with Gin, you know, and now I kind of feel like an asshole But at that point, like you said all this stuff happening right off the bat You don't realize that in and or now you realize at the end of it We're in the end game now Like we got to start making fucking things happen and especially once the Death Star is known they have to start You know writing shit in permanent link. They can't just be writing stuff in pencil, sneaking around, sabotage little spy stuff.

They gotta start fucking making body counts and fucking winning battles here. It does feel like crunch time. Like when you watch this, it also, I've seen posts about this, it feels a little bit more like Cassian's the main character. I know it's Jen Erso, but watching it after Andor, you're watching it like this is Cassian's story still.

Did you realize, like, I don't know how how I don't think I felt this way during the movie the first time I watched Rogue One but in this one I'm like Jin shut the fuck up this guy he's like the new axis we don't lose any more it made me think of last week us talking about how like Luke and Han fucking roll up after all the work that everyone else has put in their rebellion. These two like idiot farm boys, whatever. They roll up, they get all the credit. I was like, oh, that's just like the story of the rebellion though, because like Jen Erso rolls up, you just need like that one extra person that's going to tip it over and send the rebellion over the line. Like this kind of happened before Luke and Han with Jen Erso. the line like this kind of happened before Luke and Han with Jin Erso. I also read in a comic um someone reposted this Rogue Squadron Luke Squadron of X-Wings is named after Jin Erso and obviously

it's retconned it wasn't named after Jin Erso at 77 but they've now made it canon that Luke was like let's do what Jin would have done Rogue Squadron which I kind of fucking love as well because in this movie they obviously we could talk about later. They introduced Red Five just to get rid of him. So that call signs available for Luke. Like I love that. It's like I'm Red Five currently. I'm about to die. Boom. Oh, there it is. But I thought that was cool. Yeah. I mean, you look back at that medal ceremony. It just feels weird now. I'm like, those guys got fucking medals. And my boy, Andrew who granted has been dead for like 48 hours or maybe a little more than that at this point doesn't like but he's in like the

basements of the rebellion where they have his name on the wall he has a mug oh yeah they chisel him into that temple somewhere they chisel in the names of those that were lost or something could this be the first special edition change that fans would be on board with if they add like, Vel and Kleia and like, Mon Mothman to that scene? Yeah, I mean, and Mon Mothman not being in any of this stuff. It's like, now you feel like when you see her in Jedi,

you're like, man, she's been behind the scenes being the strong woman that's survived. Yeah, I know you gotta be thinking like, man, she's been grinding like, during that celebration scene in A New Hope, it's like, yeah, she must be like, putting putting together a squad she doesn't have time for celebrations. I think they said she's it's like Clone Wars or she's with the rebels gang I think at this point. Oh during that and there's also a shot where you can see the rebel ship in this movie

like right around where we're talking. Really? Yeah. Okay so that I think I had read that again it's been there's so much stuff and since I don't want any of the rebel story when I saw that I'm like, all right That's just stuff. I am NOT gonna know I know so I've met some of the characters in Ahsoka and I've already forgotten all their names I just know there's the girl with the butt. They kept just popping in our face K2's introduction in this movie hits every time congratulations. You are being rescued. Please do not resist. Amazing. Seeing him in this movie. And I said this after the Rogue One or the Andor final week. It hurts. His death hurts even more now because he's just so fucking great. He is. He is so perfect. And I'm looking back at my my review and I said he stole the motherfucking show the sass of RTD 2D2 and the wit of C-3PO

to go along with the brute strength of Chewbacca. I've cared less about real humans dying than I did about Cade Dillon. Oh, he's the- You were on the money right away with Cade. Yeah, I mean, I was gonna ask you, is he in like your top 10 or 20, but you probably have like 3000 Star Wars characters,

you know, I think he's in my top 10 for sure. If's we're talking droids. He could know we're not talking droids Top out on me like it's too hard for me to on this Like I would need to sit down in the lab and grind to put down a top 10 characters or something but like If we're talking droids, I think it's R2 K2SO C3PO BB8. Like those are the top four. You got, you don't beat my guy B2 there, huh? He's like 5, 6, 7. Or you also have... Who's the guy, the crazy one with Rebels? Who's the sick fuck that like...

Choppers! Choppers is probably 5. Who's your one? Your overall character? R2's overall character? Is it Luke? It's probably Han. Really? Yeah, it's probably Han. See, I thought you were such a baby face guy with Star Wars. I thought you always went to the baby face.

Although Han's more of the like, he's like the rock back in the day. Or Stone Cold. He's got the heart of gold though. Yeah, whereas Luke's more John Cena pre-heel turn heel turn right yeah yeah that's probably pretty accurate we're touching everything obviously we got either our words wrestling UFC we're touching all the bases for you guys because I'm fired up I have been this fired about Star Wars I honestly can't probably after I like after I wrote this role one recap was probably the last time I felt yeah why or maybe the Force honestly, after I wrote this Rogue One recap,

was probably the last time I felt this way, or maybe the Force Awakens, one or the other. I love to see you this fired up about Star Wars. Oh, it's great. It's just a joy. And guys, this is why I love doing this kind of stuff with Bob while I'm in the basement. This is how I like to be.

When I get obsessed with my franchises, we started a Game of Thrones podcast before the final season of Game of Thrones. That killed me, it killed me inside. And people said we were too negative. And you know what? Fucking Old Takes Exposed on every single one of our one-star reviews. And there were plenty of them. These guys, they don't like this show. They don't like this season. Fucking Old Takes Exposed. This is great. Okay. Keep it rolling, Bob. I'm sorry. Now let me ask you about some of the things in Rogue One

that people didn't love at the time. Okay. And I feel like looking back, people still don't really like Borgolat and the CGI on Tarkin. You could extend it to Leia, but a lot of people have issues with the fact that Tarkin's a CGI character instead of a recast,

and Borgolat is a little weird and creepy and out of nowhere. I gotta be completely honest, I don't really have an issue with either of them. I think Borgolat is a little weird and creepy and out of nowhere. I gotta be completely honest I don't really have an issue with either of them I think Borgolat feels creepy in that like Return of the Jedi Jabba's palace way and Tarkin I still think looks good. Like I know I'm not even like I feel like people are gonna say you're lying yourself I watch Rogue one at this point like looking for Tarkin to look bad and still think he looks good. I at this point, like looking for Tarkin to look bad and still think he looks good?

I, with Tarkin, I always think he was good for the time and they were just trying to make things work. So I remember it being like, and it's like, oh, like, and then you're getting the tingles of the original trilogy, right? So that's nice. I can understand it does look weird. And if they could have maybe done some stuff,

some shots and reflections, so it doesn't just, and same with Lya. I think all those things do stand. I could love them. You could hate them. You just kind of ignore them. I think by the end, I was kind of like looking at the screen, but like not at Tarkin's face to be like, all right, don't let this ruin a free, like don't let this take you out of the moment more than anything, not ruin it. So I can understand where they're coming from at the same point. Like it doesn't get me mad. The board goal thing, whatever. Like there's weird shit in Star Wars all the time. You could probably go back at again, you could get mad at the Darth Vader.

I am your father reveal and be like, oh, they were just making shit up as they go. Even though there is some stuff that kind of leads to it in a new hope even. So I can't even get mad at those. I'm usually when I'm mad at Star Wars. It's the much bigger, louder things that people complain about than those things. And people complain about even like the the Cantina guys who are like in the the Jetta scene they bump into the two, I don't like you, my friend doesn't like you either. And that does feel a little like when people joke about Star Wars being like it's

glock shit-o like out of nowhere. Yeah it totally feels like that. I also think it being the first spin-off they probably felt pressure to do shit like that right? Yeah no I think they that. I also think it being the first spin-off. They probably felt pressure to do shit like that, right? Yeah, no, I think they did I think they did I think that's all I think part of With the crawl and the words and what you're not gonna have in the score and all that kind of stuff It was uncharted territory this day and age that would have felt really like alright, right? Yeah, we have all these other shows but at the time the movies, and there were no shows at that point, it was like, I like seeing those guys. It was crazy.

But I can... Maybe too, yeah. I'm also the one where I can understand where you're like, all right, that felt a little forced, right? And even if you had them in the background but not say anything, maybe it would have been a little less,

you know, in your face. But I don't know, man. Pig nose and pussy face. Shout out to those guys. I love those guys. When they introduce the Chirrut and Baez, I think his name is, Baaz, Baez. When they introduced them,

my favorite like fan service drop in the movie is Cassie saying they're guardians of the wills. And they guard the Kyra crystal temple or whatever. Cause the journal of the wills was the original title of Star Wars Yeah, that was like in the original title I think that's like such a good deep cut type thing and then the scene that follows with the Stormtroopers on the tank the battle sequence like feels like a fucking straight out of a war movie scene

That's an amazing scene that George Lucas was on set for for at least part of it And I believe he had a suggestion where he said, why don't you pick a different Stormtrooper variant to be in the tank, instead of just putting Stormtroopers in there, put a different helmet, put a different character, and it was George Lucas's little contribution to Rogue One. I didn't realize George was, I was trying to get

my timelines and how everything went there. That's cool, and I remember thinking when this one came out, it's gonna be the grittier Star Wars and is it gonna work? Cause Star Wars always had like more of a clean look to it all than this like real war movie and things like that was like, Oh no, this, this really can work. And oddly enough, they kind of went away from it and a lot of stuff or they just didn't do it right, you know, in the following projects. So it was really well done as it was how it was done here. Oh, and by the way, I'm looking back at my my blog here. I said, give me pink face and Pussy Lips guy. And

every single every single Star Wars movie, like it's like, they're forced Stanley. He's in all these big historic moments. It's like, oh, and there's Pussy Lips. I would be okay with that, I think. And then the whole scene with K2. Yes, like Stanley, exactly. I just realized we went by that. K2 smacking Cassian in the scene where he's trying to play it cool is so funny. K2 coming in for the save is so funny when he's like, did you know that wasn't me when Jin fucking shoots the other KX droid? So funny. Donnie Yen is so good in this movie when he introduces himself with an awesome Blind action sequence and baes comes in for the fucking save

um, I was also thinking during this scene in canon now post and or is cassian thinking in his mind like This is it like the the force is fucking willing us together He's thinking of that force healer and he's thinking like, we're in the endgame now and this squad is just coming together. Let's roll with it. The funniest, maybe the funniest line in the movie is when they throw the bag over Donnie Yen's face. Because are you kidding me? I'm blind! That delivery is so good too. Yeah, and I was thinking about like the force healer and I'm like, they didn't know that they were gonna do that when they made the movie but it's just everything from fucking and or it's not even poetry rhymes it's like just more fucking up the same poem and we just got you know chapter two and chapter three it's fucking so good dude it's just so good I don't even know how they did this. It just blows my mind. I can't believe R2 and 3PO were not to jump ahead but I forgot. Did you remember they were in it? I forgot that they were in it. I did because people people shit on that too and I'm like oh come on like they would probably be

on Yavin 4 at that time and it is one of those like okay we've randomly cut to the two characters you know in the middle of like this narrative but again it's they probably felt pressured to not be the first movie where they didn't appear. They probably thought fans would be like, what the fuck? You're breaking the streak for no reason. Yeah. And at that point, they're thinking, well, we have like there could be like a direct direction from, you know, whoever the top with Eiger or someone like, no, we have to have three people in our two

and every single Star Wars project or, you know, every single movie until like period. And then at some point they're like alright This just isn't gonna work obviously with timelines and stuff like that or wherever they could be in the galaxy But even like they're like, where are they going now? It's like yeah something that dumb fucking asshole for a few is I Also thought it was funny watching Krennic and Tarkin talk and Tarkin kind of reaming them out It was funny thinking that Krennic had to deal with Dejra's leaked emails like days before

the biggest moment of his professional, or biggest moment of his life, not only his professional career, but just like the death star's finally about to become operational. And someone's like, listen, we have some fucking leaked emails we have to tell you about.

You gotta go deal with this in the basement. And he's just like, are you fucking kidding me? Then when they get to Jedha and go to saw, and Jen can see like her stepdad's on drugs now he's fucking crazy. Like you can't even have a conversation with the guy. But she watches the monologue the hologram monologue from Galen or so. In this monologue from Mads Mickelson, it could stand toe to toe with the best monologues

from Andor. Like her performance, Felicity Jones crying watching it almost in that interstellar type scene like that, crying watching what you missed out on, but also there's some hope in the message. So awesome. And you get the classic trope of like shooting a door to open it when they're in the cell. People are also saying, why did Cassian say this is his first time in a cell? If he was in a prison and season one of Andor, and they're trying to poke holes in that. And Tony Gilroy came out and he was like, he's a spy. He didn't want to tell him about

his past, which is such a perfect cop out for anything. I, well, you had that thing with all his different names to Cassian. Yeah. He was Glenn. We forgot that. He was Glenn. We forgot that. He was part of the fam. I love that. Uh and then the thing is like Gilroy. Hey, like if you're going to complain, you can

complain. Hey, listen, I completely get it. We're all fans of **** and **** will drive us nuts. That guy, Tony Gilroy will poke a hole in it because it's in his brain, not yours. He has the entire world in his brain so

we can say whatever the **** he wants and he's going to win. Even the I feel I have a bad feeling about this. They stopped it before it happened. So I appreciated that. And again, at that point, you had the force awakens and you had the original trilogy and the prequels and you're like, all right, we're going to keep this rolling. And the fact that they stopped it was like having the long time ago but not the scroll, right? It was like you have it, you're in Star Wars, but it's not the same. This is not part of the Skywalker trilogy which let's be honest it's actually the Palpatine trilogy. I also love the shot of Jedis City exploding panning up to the Death Star that's just like holy shit what a cool visual also my favorite line delivery in the movie comes from Ben Mendelsohn as

Krennic when he says, we stand here amidst my achievement, not yours. The way he screams that at Target is so fucking good. I just watched, did you ever see A Place Beyond the Pines or The Place Beyond the Pines? I feel like that's a horror movie. It's not. It's like a, it's kind of like a sad movie. It's Ryan Gosling Bradley Cooper. Ben Mendelsohn's in it and Ben Mendelsohn does this like country accent. He's like helping Ryan Gosling with bank robberies. I just watched it last night not to completely throw us off track here. It was tremendous and Ben Mendelsohn was tremendous in it. So I just

had to shout out that performance. I love it. He's one of my favorite actors. He's awesome. That's a that's a big three of fucking actors. You're thingers. Hit me with sad movie. I don't know if I I think it's that dude. It also has Ray Liotta, Mahershala Ali, Rose Byrne, Eva Mendes. Like it's like it lights out cast. Wow. God damn it. All right. Sold. Would recommend. I also wrote other than the obvious scariff third act, the stuff in the rain on edu feels the most like a war movie to me. I don't know if it's just because of the sniper, like looking into the scope, we're really in like trying to this is like the most vital part of the plan. Cassian's got the mission to fucking kill Galen. He's with the daughter of Galen. So he

can't do that. And he's thinking about the daughter and everything. I also love K2 being like the whole system goes down and repeating that line right before they go off on the mission. Really fucking funny. So the Cassian scene I think plays differently in my head than it did when I watched the first time after seeing him in Andor and It does make more sense why he pulls it down, right? Yes, that's not him He's he doesn't just follow orders blindly, which I appreciate about yeah And that was also like Andor hammered that home in season two of like don't just follow orders blindly That's what they were doing on fucking Gorman Yeah

Now you have it flipped here where yeah, he meets Jin and it's like a little humanity is injected back into him where he's like fuck. I'm about to kill this girl's father in front of her It's like he did he does have the fucking did give us the potential to blow this thing up here Even if he helped build it, you know And and is gin reminding him a little bit of Bix at times obviously not when they wrote Rogue One But now watching it back. It's like it's been a year or two since bit of Bix at times. Obviously not when they wrote Rogue One, but now watching it back, it's like it's been a year or two since he left Bix. Is he getting little inclinations of like, maybe she's troubled just like Bix was

when she was doing drugs and not in the right state of mind and all that. I don't know. There was also like, I was catching a couple of little sparks between them, which I don't know if it is. It was little sparks, which it's been years. He thought picks left him, you know,

he didn't know about the kid. Yeah. And it's like, hey, I can get someone with me who's into the rebellion like me and isn't just, you know, ditching me for a random spot in the universe. And it's probably for the best for the, the Bix Cassian love to have existed by him blowing up. We don't want it to happen, but like I feel like if they're on that beach and that fucking tidal wave explosion, whatever just stops in front of them.

They're like there's a beach sex going on. It might be. I mean in that moment, if it just stops like there was a force field in front of them for sure. They're like we to celebrate. That was crazy. Beach sex could not be fun too. That could not be fun. No, sex on the beach is a good drink name, but can't be good. Like a lot of things, but pardon execution. Yes. The final Galen scene on that bridge is so good. So emotional, some cold shots of Krennic getting back on the ship when the ship takes off

and blows Jin like back a little bit. That was cool to see just a cool like visual and everything. Chirrut shooting down TIE fighters with a fucking space bow and arrow. Awesome. I love that. Does it make sense? I don't know. Fucking he's got the force, you know? And then when Cassian's confronted about it, he's kind of addicted to Jin Erso right away.

But then like his entire monologue, then it does make sense how much he lost in Andor or how much he's committed to the Rebellion and she's showing up all all right the rebellion works for me today You're like yeah in and maybe in Rogue one you're like he's a bit of a dick to the main character right now Now you're like he's being stern, but I get it What he's like did I do it? I was just mad at you Cassie, but now you didn't do it the Which yeah, that was a lot of yeah, we didn't mention this on the rogue one on the end or podcast But there was people wondering if what's her name Kayla key? Clay, I'm yeah him that was his sister and Tony Gilroy shut that you guys. Yeah, that would be kind of so

So I wasn't looking out for the sister in season two. We kind of forgot to talk about that as well I know some people were still theorizing I thought it was like very much like they put a ending on that storyline when Marvel was like stop looking for your sister She's not out there. Like this is a fantasy you have in your head. There weren't survivors I thought that was like her telling him the truth and him having to come to grips with that Agreed agreed and sure maybe there's like, you know one in a million shot She's out there and that's one of the things that's on his mind all the time. That's like part of his character Yeah, that's a huge part of like the base of this character and again if I in the theater I was probably

like you tell him Jin I don't know this guy sus as hell and sus was even a word in my vocabulary back then now I'm like Jin shut the fuck up this guy is the fucking centerpiece of the rebellion these 100% rebellion 100% overall get off his back so it's funny how that show can change your entire perspective on everything. And then we get the first Vader scene in the movie, the scene between Vader and Krennic, and I love that Ben Mendelsohn got a scene opposite Vader and we got James Earl Jones doing his voice in this and everything. The Bok'ta tank scene, awesome visual. But was including Vader in this

movie before the hallway scene a misstep looking back would it have hit even harder if Vader isn't here and the choke on your aspirations line I also think rides that line so perfectly of the prequel like classic line corny line it's right on the fence of it I think it's almost like having the Undertaker come out at the beginning of a show to cut a promo and then the lights go out at the end during the main event and he shows up and it's still awesome. But looking back, I'm like, I think they should have cut this and I think his first time on

screen and only time on screen should have been the hallway. You know, if they had mentioned Vader at one point just to like, and not that he's coming or anything, I never thought if they just cut this all together, the choke on your aspirations line when he says it and I think I thought this at the time, I see who's the guy who's the kid who played Anakin again? Yeah, I see Chris Hayden as the guy delivering it because he's fucking lame ass little Anakin all grown up and he's doing these stupid puns, right? So that's how I saw it at the same point like seeing Vader in the fucking like bakta milk and it's coming out that was cool that was cool must have seen his temple and on the first time yeah that's that's cool so I appreciated that but

I never thought if they just take that out then that last scene comes and when it comes we'll be talking about it everyone comes when it comes so it's awesome so I don't know if it could I guess it could have been even better because it's like everything has failed the emperor let's throw the fucking ace on the table and he is gonna short. Then Jin goes to try to tell everyone about what's happening back at the rebellion and someone even mentioned maybe Andor pulls the shot if you wanted to head count on it now, maybe Andor pulled the shot because he knew people wouldn't listen to Jin in this meeting and he wanted to bring Galen back

to tell him firsthand. And I kind of liked that head count too. I'm like, oh, I don't know. Maybe that was a thought in Cassian's mind. But my favorite random scene in this movie happens when Jin is giving her old speech and someone in the back just yells, what is she proposing? Every time that makes me laugh, the way it's delivered by that extra.

But then when she hits the rebellions are built on hope, I'm back bumped up with the rest of everyone. I hate half the rebellion. I find I learned to, right? They're tough to deal with. Fish guy, the black lady, uh, bail even has his fucking moments or I'm like fuck you bail and then he's like To Alderaan yeah He drops a quick Obi-Wan layer reference there That's kind of cool person you dealt with in the rebellions and he's like I would trust her with my life That's cool, but him being like alright see if going to Alderaan trust her with my life. That's cool. But him being like, Alright, see you going all the wrong.

Captain maybe hit a detour. Like, Oh, we need someone good. Send Captain Antilles again. Fucking Daniel. Alright, so he does get some respect. Yeah. And a great May the Force be with us right before Rogue One gets its official title, you know, and they say Rogue One, I guess like I like that too. I like the way it gets his title. I like that it's I like the way it gets its title. I like that it's the team name, but the fake team name that they just made up on the fly. All of that's good. And then you get to fucking Scarif for one of the best third acts, not only in a Star Wars movie.

It's one of my favorite third acts any movie has. Yeah, when we got there, I'm like, all right now, how how is this going to because I didn't remember just how good it was. I remember some of the moments of it, but how it all goes and like right off the bat 88 he's coming down here. Just like oh, oh no, he's on the beach like not in the snow Yeah, Krennic in that fucking war room and then the explosion Incredible that moment hit so hard for me watching it back knowing everything that we know in and or, because it's in my mind, Krennic knows everything is completely unraveling at that

moment. It's like the Oh, fuck, everything we feared about those leaked emails is coming true. Like the wrong people got those leaked emails. And now they're here. And you could see it in his face when you see the little explosions going off all over Scarif all over the base. and you could just see him and he yells at it. He's like, what are we doing? Just standing here, right? He's like, you know get to the fire. Whatever. It's like a famous line. He hits there So fucking good. I'm bumped up just talking about that scene. We got him bumped up two weeks in a row Last of us is gonna have to bring the thunder next week because that's pretty much I think all we have going on.

I love the shore troopers. I mentioned them again. I think they're one of the coolest stormtrooper variants. This is where we get R2 and C3PO. Probably thought people would be pissed off if they didn't appear. Then the AT-AT is on the beach. Even seeing that, I remember that was in one of the big trailer shots where you see that shot of the AT-AT kind of redirecting, looking straight down the barrel of the camera. It just looks awesome. It looks badass on the beach. It reminds you of a Storming the Beach war movie, maybe like a Saving Private Ryan, which I rewatched this weekend just because of that. Then the X-Wing cockpit shots, when we get the Rebellion coming to lend a hand, they

look so old school in the best way. I don't know what they did. Maybe it's just like the lighting. It's like a little dingier. They look straight out of A New Hope. Every cockpit scene, I thought that was so cool. I love that Red Five again is introduced just to be taken away.

I love the scene where they close the shield gates and the X-Wing like crashes into the planet and then kind of slides along the shield. They do so many things in this dogfight in this battle that we've never seen in Star Wars before. I think it's my favorite like space battle or large-scale battle we have in Star Wars. Obviously the Trench Run is great. It feels like the Trench Run is very personal though. It feels like there's like a dozen people out there. Yeah. This feels like a large scale, holy shit,

this is Star Wars battle. Yeah, and then I think the ones we've had after didn't hit in different ways. I don't want to get into what they did in The Last Jedi, because I don't remember the star fighters going on, and then there was a million Star Destroyers at one point in Rise of Skywalker or something. I don't remember that. but I feel like this was probably

my favorite actual battle scene there's something there's something about when a bunch of ships come out of hyperspace just does it for me I don't know what it is it just gets going yes and the stuff on Scarif does such a good job of doing exactly what a new hope did in their final. It makes you feel like it's so urgent and time is running out. And you've got like seconds on the clock and you are not gonna make it. Like it really, every time I watch it,

it gives me that feeling. Then you start going into like the claw game stuff where they gotta fucking get the stardust and pull it out. And there's little mentions there, like a little cool Easter egg is the hyperspace tracking Easter egg. This is a year before hyperspace tracking Easter egg. This is a year before hyperspace tracking would be introduced in the last Jedi. So they were like teasing things that the Empire knew about

for the sequel trilogy, even though it has nothing to do with the sequel trilogy. They were kind of trying to give like a layup there. Yeah. Um, and you get the K2, you know, sacrificing himself for Cassian and Jyn in this scene where they're in there, he's trying to hold everyone off and it's still to this day. you know, sacrificing himself for Cassian and Jin in this scene where they're in there, he's trying to hold everyone off and it's still to this day, it's even though we know so much about Andor now, this is the saddest death on the movie. I think it is right as fucked up as it is. Yeah, trying to see the lights go out.

Dude already died once came back to life and it's still just just crushes you. Also Mel she's fucking sad like when like he's not a huge part of Andor, but he off-screen in this movie like you see him and then they cut back to him when he's dead And I forgot that you don't even get to see him die. I was just like oh fuck RIP my dog. He's dead I saw this I said the same thing. I thought the same thing. I was like oh fuck So Melchie just goes out fucking background character, and you know they built him up, and I just rewatched the prison break scene recently and he's fucking a big part of that. I also, I've reserved the right to change my mind every single day for the rest of my life. I think I'm back to season one and where it's better because

I rewatched the Fin speech and I rewatched the Marvel speech and I'm like, shit, I don't know if they just don't have those speeches. They have everything else. And Nemex Manifo is season one, too Yeah, exactly. So it's good. Sure. I could flip-flop either day, too Then we've get the I'm one with the force the force is with me seen all-timer RP my dog cheer it as well So good the first time I watched that movie they stuck out a lot more as characters, but they're more background after Andor, to me, as weird as it sounds.

You know, because it's like- And I like that they didn't try to force them into Andor. Obviously he meets them in this movie, but someone said like, were you ever thinking about putting Jen Erso in the show? And Tony Gilroy came out today, he's like, that would have been lame. I wouldn't have done that, it would have been forced.

Fuck no, I want Tony Gilroy just to like, start lighting people up with questions, after have done that. It would have been forced. Fuck no. I want Tony Gilroy just to start lighting people up with questions, after questions like that. Then we get RIP My Dog Bodhi, our technician, our former pirate, or not pirate, pilot rather, defected from the empire. Rest in peace to him as well. Good character, not like a vital,

he is vital to the story, but not one of the biggest characters runtime screen time wise I Thought that I thought that actor and that character we're gonna raise on mad. He's really good Yeah, he's a great the night of was the first episode of night Yeah, so one of the best TV shows I've ever seen in my life in terms of just one episode alone So I thought when he was gonna be in this was gonna this was going to be his character was going to crush and he become like the biggest star in the world and character was just meh, but he played his role, you know, and the whole Empire Imperial pilot was a cool twist on everything. Uh, Raddus calling for the Hammerhead maneuver. One of the best play calls

of all time. One Star Destroyers disabled, we hammer headed into the other one. Awesome visual, awesome like exclamation point on the battle too. When it's just, it's not just X-Wings and TIE Fighters, boom, boom, explosion. It's like a thing you've never seen before. A Star Destroyer crashing into the shield gate and then them, that allowing the Rebels to get the plans sent up through the satellite and everything. When she gets to the satellite, I always wonder about that TIE fighter shot that was in the trailer. It was such a great shot.

I think we've talked about it on My Mom's Basement every time though I'm like, damn, that was such a cool shot that they didn't include. Some of the shit from the trailers looked awesome that they cut. They might be, if Gilroy gets the bag to do more, he's just like, I'm just gonna do the, it's gonna be like the parts of Andorra that I didn didn't include are the parts of road one that I didn't include.

Although I did the right stuff. Because like, from what I know, I think it was, it was just one extra step on Scariff. So instead of like getting the plans and then fucking sending them up, it was like, get the plans, get the satellite and then go somewhere else to send them. So it was just like, I think they call it a hat on a hat in the movie business, in the picture business. I think it was just like one extra step where they were like, all right, let's make it feel more like time is really like crunching down.

And then Krenna could have shot Jin up there, I thought, but he was just so curious about who she was. He was like, who the fuck are you? Like, how are you the one that's taken me down right now? And then when Cassian shoots him, the prop master came out and pointed out, Cassian shoots him with Bix's gun. It's Bix's pistol.

And that is such a great detail. I can't believe Star Wars fans didn't notice it because the prop master had to come out and be like, hey, I'm surprised no one's pointed this out. It was kind of a massive thing that I tried to include in Andor. This is like when the forest goes dormant you know in all the years after the Empire takes over the fan base has been fighting each other so long over

all the different things over the years that like that doesn't become blinded. Yeah that doesn't survive like everything in Jedi was probably pointed out the minute it came out there's probably wookie pedia when the internet didn't exist right yeah and the fact that no one pointed that out man it's just like hopefully the forest and the the Star Wars eagle eyes will be back on top of it I mean they were one of the fuckers are pointing up boba fit based on the sound of his spurs Yeah And then seeing the Death Star just turn and point directly at Krennic. I know people have joked They say Tarkin 360 no scopes Krennic in this moment. I love that

It's so satisfying watching him look up at the Death Star and being like, you're about to fucking get yours. Obviously sad with Jyn and Cassian on the beach, but this is the the sunrise that we knew they would never get to see. We get Bix and Cassian Jr. or maybe a girl junior because people have noted it's a blue blanket but they don't say boy or girl, so I don't know, it could be whatever. And then you get the frigging hallway scene, which we can't praise any more than we have over the years.

It's absolute cinema, one of the greatest things we've ever seen from Star Wars, into the Leia scene, which I love. I know people are still like the Tarkin thing, or a little so-so on the Leia CGI. It works for me. It works enough for me not to be taken out of the movie where I'm just like, oh shit,

it makes me just wanna watch A New Hope. That's like what it does. And I noted the credits here also go to John Williams just like season two, the Andor Finale did. Oh, okay. I didn't notice that. The lay of thing, I understand, but I just had looked at my blog too. My entire

theater went bonkers when they realized this was then rolling right into the New Hope beginning. You can't get those kind of moments. I'm bumped up just talking about it. You don't get those kind of moments. It's very rare you do. We got them in Marvel, the MCU during the Infinity War endgame time, and we got this in Star Wars, and we're getting it again because of this show that just came out that has us rewatching everything. It's fucking incredible, dude. It's so good. This leads to the question, is Andor Road 1 and A New Hope the best trilogy in Star

Wars? I've seen people saying that, and you could truly make that argument. For me, nothing beats the original trilogy because that's also like the tone of Star Wars that I like the most is a little fun, a little goofy, a little kooky. That like I love that about Star Wars. It's a little silly. And and or isn't silly. It takes Star Wars and says, what if it wasn't fucking silly? What if this shit was for real? For the most part, you know, we've got a couple aliens in this, like the big face alien with the big mouth,

like shooting out of the fucking ship and stuff. A little bit of silliness, but just a smidge, you know, it's a micro dose of Star Wars silliness. So still nothing beats the original trilogy. If you were to say pure quality wise though, like take Star Wars fandom and nostalgia out of it and or into Rogue One, Into A New Hope, yes is the best Star Wars trilogy. I think. Yeah.

I don't think you could take Empire out of the trilogy and say, Hey, now we have the best Star Wars trilogy. It's just, that's the movie. I think that's still the movie all these years later. And a new hope is perfect for what it is. I also love people are saying if you watch the trilogy and then you went with a new hope, like everyone has gotten like significantly dumber and like way dumb very quickly every especially the rebellion in the Empire I love I sent you a couple of tweets appeal being like they probably thought Vader was the

fucking worse they're putting together these intricate Empire plants of planet takeovers and mining and this and that. And he comes into the room talking about the force and they're like, Jesus fucking Christ, the force again, dude, what is this guy talking about? There's also one share that's open at that scene. And I love the headcanon that it's Krennic's chair and Krennic was supposed to be in that meeting. But Krennic right before that meeting, you know, axed. I never heard that theory. That's gonna be my headcanon. I think I love that idea. Like Darth Vader is like the guy when you're going through your corporate strategy and someone's

like, Jesus will take us home or God will take us home. And it's like, come on, man, we're doing you can't write that on a report, dude. Ha ha ha. It's great stuff. I'm glad we rewatched Rogue One. It really does get so much better after Andor. And I've been telling some of my buddies that are Star Wars fans that haven't watched Andor yet, I'm like, dude, I know you like Rogue One.

I'm telling you, this is going to make Rogue One better, which there makes A New Hope better, which makes the original trilogy better. Andor's so good, it makes all Star Wars better. And it makes you frustrated that All Star Wars can't be this good. Yeah. And the thing that hurts Andor is like, it is like, you got to get through the, and like you don't have, it's not like fucking a rude canal, but it's like the first group, it's going to start slow. Yeah. And then, but then once you get to the jail, you're good. And then, you know, the first, and then season two, the first the first episode, but you're already hooked from the jail scene and

all the different speeches we had talked about. You're not committed at that point. And you can you'll coast all the way to Rogue One and then into New Hope and then you're in the Star Wars fucking bonanza that my brain is in right now. We're kind of doing with KFC. KFC is rewatching and I'm like, I don't want to lose him in the first three episodes because I know a lot of people are probably going to get lost in those first three episodes because I know a lot of people are probably gonna get lost in those first three episodes I Also loved this was just something from the movie

I forgot to mention what I forgot this when the rebellion is like all right We're getting the fuck out of here, and then the Star Destroyer shows up in hyperspace. I was like oh So good that that's a big oh fuck moment I also did this with with Nikki smokes this weekend Nikki smokes yesterday text me never seen and or gonna binge it today And I said dude, it's amazing. You're gonna love Bix He asked a couple questions about timeline things or whatever and I said both seasons start a little bit slow get awesome a few Episodes in the first few are good, but not mind-blowing but stick with it It's super worth it. And he said I'm fired up and then

20 exactly 20 minutes after that text. He said she's a fucking smoke show Nikki smokes Smokes you you said this during the pot about wanting to you re watch Private Ryan and I had said I had saw someone say they wanted a Private Ryan Star Wars show, which I mean you could say there are moments of this movie to have

that kind of like war scene vibe, but then you're like that should be the pre Jedi show and it's the many Bothans died and you just have them getting wiped out many Bothans many Rhyans died to take down the Nazis many Bothans died. You just have them getting wiped out. Many Bothans, many Ryans died to take down the Nazis. Many Bothans died to take down the second Death Star.

I think that could work. That's how to keep Mon Moth around. That's how to keep Genevieve O'Reilly's lights on. Yeah, and listen. You're around. I don't know if you could do it with the original property. I know it's no longer canon, but you know me, if we're gonna start dabbling with original trilogy stuff

throw some shadows of the Empire out there and then maybe roll it in there yeah she's or I believe was his name back to fucking the deep fake Luke from Mandalorian but do a hologram scene where you just have to talk to Mon Mothma via hologram it'll look even better that way. Like bring in Billy Lord to play young Leia or something. Like you could have some fucking fun with it. Or I don't know, everyone still wants Sebastian Stan to play Luke Skywalker.

I think he's starting to get to the age where it's like he would have to play post Jedi, Luke Skywalker, because I think he's a lot older than more camel was when they wrapped that up, but fuck it, I'm fine with that too. We're recasting bail. We're recasting everyone. He broke the seal Perfect. I also do have a fast food review for this for this movie on a rewatch. What do you think about that? Okay, I Didn't even prepare one. This is like putting fast food in the microwave ain't it the air fryer? Maybe it's even better. You just tell me if you co-sign it because I thought of this

Just before we started recording. So you have your your cheesy gordita crunch right which we all know yeah it's taking some beloved taco bell foods putting them together making it better I think that's what rogue one was originally like now you're throwing and or in into the rogue one which then bleeds into a new hope that's your Doritos cheesy gordita crunch. So you're getting the Doritos taco inside and now everything is better. Cause listen, I'm not a huge Taco Bell regular taco guy, but you're throwing the Doritos taco, I'm always going to Doritos.

I'll pay the dollar, I pay probably $5 just for the shell, if you're gonna throw that. So I think it improves everything. I've been trying to eat a little better, you're gonna make me get Taco Bell tonight for sure with that rant you talking about how good Taco Bell is how good the Doritos Crunch Wrap is I definitely co-signed that that's a great fast food review so shadow 20 for giving us a Doritos Taco Gordita Crunch yes and what was the hashtag for this week? Emi for Pedro? Emi for Pedro. Emi for Pedro.

And for the fellow Star Wars fans out there that are gonna get hooked to it, you get all your original trilogies, there is a doc that Bob recommended to me a while ago and I never had a chance to watch it and I knew the fire in my belly. Light and Magic by, it's all about the industrial lights and magic. First episode is kinda like how it comes together. I think halfway through they start doing Star Wars Then it's a Star Wars episode an Empire episode Then they talk about Indiana Jones and then just how it blows up computer graphics There's so many fucking I just laughed by myself being like these guys are the most talented smartest most beloved nerds in the world

They are awesome. It's a it's on Disney Plus. It's a must watch for any Star Wars fan And if you're in this I gottaalion. I gotta watch season two. Cause I heard season two is about the prequels too. So if you're like me, if you're a prequel fan, if you're a kid of the prequels, that'll hit your nostalgia bones as well. I didn't even know there was a season two until you said you were gonna watch it.

So I'm gonna probably, I'm about halfway through season one. But at least for the first few Star Wars, you guys will lead it up. So check that out along with all the other stuff out there. We're back in the basement, baby. Here we go. We're back. All right, sweet.