My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 431 - THE LAST OF US SEASON 2 FINALE

Episode Date: May 27, 2025

The Basement Boys recap and review the finale of #TheLastOfUs Season 2 - and they give their thoughts on the season as a whole! Was it good, great, bad, horrible, or somewhere in-between?! Did they end on a decent note? Are we into the idea of Season 3?! Join the convo and find out! Gametime: Download the Gametime app today and use code MMB for $20 off your first purchase! New Amsterdam Vodka: Find your wins with New Amsterdam Vodka! ****************************************   My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike!   Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement presented by Barstool Sports in a very special Last of Us Finale edition. Last of Us Season 2 has wrapped up. It was a Memorial Day weekend premiere, or I guess premiere, for the finale. Memorial Day premiere for the finale? What is that? for the finale. Yeah, you're trying you know what I flew in this morning And my brain is still a little discombobulated Shout out Bob Fox for flying in to the office. Mm-hmm. Well not to the outby if you park like that That's like the Dave stuff. Yeah, I get a blade straight to the roof. Yeah, but Bob Fox coming straight to the office morning of to record a bite live for the people listening. Yep, live, we love it.

We're here in person. It's not a CGI Clem in the office. It's not a CGI me in the office. We're really here in person. I was gonna say, I hope people have watched it and caught up by the time they listen to this podcast or they get the podcast in their feeds. Because I did see viewership was down,

but people were also saying it's a holiday weekend. So it's like, I don't know, people will get around to it. I was gonna mention the number, I don't, it was a lot. It was 55% down from season one, which is really rough. And that's not all holiday weekend, obviously. We've talked about me watching this show and how problematic it is watching it

with a 10 year old daughter. Yep. She is obsessed with this show. I'm telling you, she listens to every podcast episode, like every day, and she's just obsessed with it. It was 9 15, we were still trying to put AJ to bed. She didn't even realize that it was. Cause everyone was a day off this week.

Yesterday, Monday felt like Sunday. I forgot the Nick stuff threw me off. Bing bonging, so we're all whacked out because of that. So Sienna, the biggest Last of Us fan I know, didn't even know. Even she forgot. She knew all day it was on, but then at nine o'clock it just kind of skipped her mind,

because nothing felt right. So we'll see about those numbers, but I also think with those numbers, we're gonna have some discussions here. I think there's a lot of G words you could throw around for this season. And I was thinking- Oh, I was thinking-

And then we're on the Bob Fox side of the spectrum. I was honestly thinking on the way here, on the Uber here, I was thinking, we gotta talk G words when it comes to this season because Honestly, the discourse about the last of us is kind of crazy. Yeah, like it's so Like one direction or the other at this point where people are either saying it's the worst thing to ever grace Television or they're saying like oh no You're only saying that cuz you have an agenda and it's political and it's like

It could be in the middle and it is in the middle I think I think it's in the middle of the two crazy crazy spectrums there but before we get into the last of us how was Memorial Day weekend for you do anything special? Memorial Day weekend was... I almost said a G word there. It was good. There's a there's a ceiling you hit once you become as old as I am and you're a parent you can't really hit the great unless you kind of like someone's just watching the kids or the kids are being are playing amongst Themselves and you get the you know, live your life party, but it was good There's a lot of fortnight a lot of Star Wars for tonight. Oh my god. There was a lot of Star Wars for

J oh No, I don't think I got a picture. We we are breaking on the pod. We unlocked Darth Jar Jar Locked him. We got the XP and then plan asm and then I bought him Yes Does he do anything special like it does this skin add like does he have force lightning because of that? I don't gotta get like a thing about fortnight skins is they don't they don't make it just this aesthetic Yeah, it's a static cuz they don't want to make it where you have to pay to get better You know cuz true thing of the call of duty people just you know mowing you down with guns

It would it would be me the worst guy at the game being like I'll just buy my way to the top Yeah, exactly. So Darth Jar Jar, which is a true theory has been confirmed. It's canon He was unlocked. He was AJ I I was like don't worry, dude. I'll cover the price because again, they're smart They make you play the game and then you got to pay for them I paid for him we had extra V bucks in the account and he goes Uh, I had more V bucks than that after you put your V bucks in so then I had a double V bucks 2000 V bucks. Have you like described Darth Jar Jar to AJ? Does he get why that's like weird or funny?

No, he has no idea. He hasn't even watched. Well, you watched Phantom Menace I was gonna ask you about this offline, but I figured I would just tell you on the show I didn't even watch attack of the clones with him. Yeah, I'm Phantom Menace. He got into the pod racing He got into the lightsaber fights. You should show him a few YouTube's of attack of the clones. That's what I did. Okay I'm gonna say the Camino scene right is sick I found a three-minute YouTube describing the whole thing and now I might go back and do the You know, I was gonna say show him the battle of genosis. That's awesome Like I can't imagine him not liking that with a hundred lightsabers in the fray and everything

The aliens are cool looking right there like weird like bug aliens. Yeah, there's also like kind of a funny thing Like I know people crap on it But I think it's funny when see three PO gets his head put on a battle droid and running around the arena with a blaster And everything yeah, I think AJ would dig that but I like honest. This is as honest as gonna get in the basement Do you think like a seven-year-old kid that didn't love Phantom Menace could sit through an entire attack of the clones It's asking a lot. Is it not asking a lot of these? It's asking a lot you swap the not asking a lot, at least? It's asking a lot. You swap the boring political scenes

for the boring romantic scenes. And there's a lot of them. Like a lot of Anakin just kinda like trying to talk to Padme being a little like awkward with her and her being awkward back because George didn't know how to write the dialogue. I think a couple of you two, obviously like Yoda showing up with the lightsaber at the end

I feel like he would dig that too So I think it's worth like yeah 10 minutes where the YouTube videos and there's no like oh this guy Darth Maul's coming He rules it's like yeah, you're getting get Django fat is dooku at this point. Yeah, that's who Yoda's fighting That's right, and they do the two on one fight It's Anakin and Obi-Wan verse dooku and they repeat that fight and revenge of the tell Sith. And then I tell him hey this is Boba Fett's dad he'll get into that. Exactly because he's got kid Boba Fett too. Yeah exactly so there are there is some good. Yeah from a certain point of view.

Not the best Star Wars movie as Nicky Smokes will have to call it right? No but I got a text from Nicky Smokes this weekend it was the anniversary of A New Hope and he texted me and was like A New Hope has skyrocketed up my rankings I think you rewatched it and found a new appreciation for it which I said I'll take that yeah I'll take that Nikki smokes I will say I am excited for Seth because he keeps going to me he keeps going I keep talking about Anakin he goes so this Anakin guy does he die when he gets older and I'm like oh he doesn't know yet we'll find out and I can't do the Luke I am your father revealed him.

I'm gonna get the Anakin as Darth Vader. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I might even record it, get a little like a red wedding kind of reaction. I love it. The only thing is they say Darth Vader earlier, but once he sees the suit go on him, he's gonna fuck him up.

Good. I love the meme that is like, when he says like, henceforth, you shall be known as Darth Vader. And there's a meme of Anakin looking up being like Was that off the dome? Ripped that right right off the head and he the one on the one last thing about for tonight AJ is obsessed Obsessed with general grievous really I did he have general the general grievous skin with you when you guys played we need enough the skin But we went up to general grievous, and he killed him. Yeah

Tries to kill in video games. He got the regular skin, and then there's kind of like General Grievous, like- Pre-Cyborg, right? And it's like, back when the war was just starting, it's kind of like he's like a guerrilla warfare General Grievous. Dude, there's an action figure of him.

I'm gonna buy that action figure one day, cause I've always thought it's the coolest thing in the world. It's awesome. And I like his, again, I showed him like, Hey, do you wanna hear what this guy sounds like? General Kenobi. He's like, I don't know what, he kinda sucks. But he's awesome looking and he has cool stuff.

It's kinda like the prequels. They look cool. There's just something in the execution that's lacking there. But Jar Jar Jar is ours. Yeah. I wanted to tell you a story this weekend I was at my fiance's mom. She got remarried congratulations shout out Lady Fox's mom yes, and I met someone at this wedding who saw my Beatles tattoo

And they walked up to me, and they go oh Beatles fan. I said yeah, they're like are you a real fan I said oh, I'm a real real fan because I got a good story for you. I said okay I thought you're gonna throw a trivia at you. No, no, no. And I've gotten that before. It's an old people magnet, this thing. He tells me, I was at the Ed Sullivan show in 1964. I was there. The very first Beatles taping. He told me the whole story.

Apparently they used to give out tickets to the Navy and like the troops and everything. So his dad, I think was in the Navy, comes to him one day. He's like, you ever heard of the Beatles? He's like no I never heard of him. He's like well if you want to take a girl on a date to the city or something here's two tickets. So he hits up this girl. 16 years old the girl was 15 and her parents wouldn't let her go into the city so he's like I had to bring my little sister. It was the worst but then he shows up he says he gets to see the

Beatles rehearse. He gets to see the set on the Ed Sullivan show that we all know, literally like change the course of the world. And then afterwards, Ed Sullivan comes back out, he goes, the photographers need more pictures of the Beatles, they're gonna play a second set for everyone. They played for 90 minutes. He got to watch 90 minute Beatles set. He said it was the greatest thing he's ever seen.

I said, were you sold immediately? He's like, I sold immediately. Went from not knowing who they were to my favorite band of all time I said so I assume you saw him again after that he goes no way it couldn't get better than that he's like I could have seen him at Shea I knew I wouldn't be able to hear it I was in a room with 500 people watching and I was like mind-blowing I was ready to talk to this guy for the rest of the wedding I was just like tell me every story you have about that day it's such a's breath smell like? It's such a crazy thing.

Like I never would have imagined to meet anyone that was in the room for that. It's like, literally you could say it's the most like pivotal musical performance ever. And like you said, 500 people actually experience that. So you're on the very, that's like something you say for the night one at Jeopardy. Yes.

Like I'm telling you, R.E. Trebekker, at this place, Ken Jennings. Instead of, yeah, I'm in a trivia league at home. It's always the worst things they bring up on Jeopardy. So in the end, he got to share that moment with his sister. I know. And I said, like, that's sweet. Yeah, immediately you got that, like, family thing.

Did we ever find out, like, the girl didn't become his wife, did it? Because that would be tough if, like, his wife missed out on the people. No, I met the wife very nicely. She was also, like, telling the story. It was also, he said said I was behind this girl with curly hair and she was in all the footage Screaming and I was like, I know you're talking about because we use that footage in my band's music video We use her and so I showed him the my real girl from music video. He's like that was her I'm right behind her is like such a crazy thing. It was just cool as far as basement keeping goes We don't got much I wanted to say make sure you subscribe to the channel.

Subscribe wherever you're watching this. Also, while we're in No Man's Land for movies and shows over the next few weeks, I want to bring on some guests. So we're going to hit up Jose. We'll get Jose back in the pod. I also want to get T-Bob on the pod. Highly requested on Twitter, new Barstool employee and a huge nerd. I think I've tweeted him for years now about Star Wars and other stuff.

Really? Yeah. I think he's been in kind years now about Star Wars and other stuff. Really? Yeah. I think he's been in the Twitter circles or whatever. So I want to get him on the pod for sure. More friends at Barstool into the basement. Yeah. Fellow nerds, fellow basement nerds. You see Dave's tweet about the Sphere too? He's like, I want to watch a Star Wars on the Sphere.

If that makes sense. Yeah. I was like, it makes sense, buddy. I think it makes sense. I was glad he got a good Sphere experience. Also also people don't talk about the sphere concourse enough looks like the Death Star You feel like you're on like a spaceship for sure I'm so mad at myself for not going to it when I was in Vegas I mean it was I couldn't have seen any good shows there, but it's been able to see like the planet Earth thing Maybe yeah, and that's still I feel like people don't talk enough about that

Like I feel like I would go if I had a free day And I was in Vegas. I would go see planet Earth in this fear No shit like this the dead looked awesome Yeah, even the earth thing I think to work and then before we get into the last of us the only news thing I had here was a funny story the CIA ran a fake Star Wars site, and I believe like the early 2010s I want to say 2010 1112. I think it a fake Star Wars site in I believe like the early 2010s. I want to say 2010, 11, 12. I think it was called Star Wars web.net or something like that. And there's a non-zero chance I've been on this website at some point. I was on every Star Wars fan site as a kid.

I, any blog forum, whatever, I was trying to read anything I could get. And I was looking at the homepage. It was like, I don't know. I feel like I might've been on this before but apparently this was the CIA's way of secretly communicating with spies overseas, and I don't know what that means because like Was there a hidden text in the site or was it literally like a forum post? I put in my blog did someone write like Kit Fisto was actually the most powerful Jedi and that meant like we've got eyes on bin Laden yeah, like what does that mean?

Yoda is Has a grid did not have a green lightsaber. That's not canon. Yeah, and then it's like I guess the nuclear codes are unveiled Now this was the 2010s. Yeah Think about that forum though during like last Jedi time. Well, it's pre it's all pre. I think this is like I think it's cut off at like 2013. Oh, so it's early 20 Yeah, real. So it's like talking about the Clone Wars cartoon a lot Which is crazy. I'm talking about Wii games. That's your side of the board

Yeah, the the fandom is the Clone Wars and all that kind of stuff Oh, so you could get away with some crazy shit and again,, like if it's on, they probably put things in Wookie Pedia. Yeah, a bunch of they change key out of Moondie's age. And everyone's like, something must have happened. I actually lied. That's not my only news item. I forgot we had breaking news just as we started to record the first Marvel DC comic crossover in years will happen This year it's gonna be two shot or two one shot comics

So one Marvel written and one DC written and we knew this was coming. We didn't know what the crossover would be It's an interesting one. Oh, what is it Batman and Deadpool? Wow someone who I feel like most writers take very seriously and someone who most writers do not take very seriously I think the dichotomy will be funny. There's two covers out now both covers look cool It's also like you could do something I'm sure with the League of Shadows the League of Assassins with their swords and Deadpool's kind of a that kind of hero in a way This is interesting Batman and Deadpool. I feel like you can piss off every fan every fan. Yeah can be equally mad It's too silly for the Batman fans. It's not sir. It's

It's not silly enough and then people are just gonna be people get real mad if Batman gets silly Yeah, Kevin Smith did a Batman cartoon where Batman peed himself and people were people still to this day are like Kevin Smith he made Batman pee himself. That's not Batman, that's not my Bruce, he would never. I don't know, maybe one of these missions he peed himself. Well, that, I mean, that's kind of a- Piss dogs, Batman piss dogs? Batman piss dogs, piss man. Yeah.

That was the other, that was kind of a little new story that bubbled up was that Ryan Reynolds had thought about writing an R rated Star Wars or something like that. I think they said he went as far as pitching it. And a bunch of people were like, we don't want his humor in Star Wars. And I think he was kind of saying like, it wasn't like the Ryan Reynolds humor. He was like, it wasn't like R-rated because of the comedy.

It was more of like an emotional thing. And he said he didn't even want to be in it. He was like, yeah, I wouldn't fit in it. So I think he even knew like people maybe wouldn't want that style. Again, he's a guy who gets so much hate on so many different things for playing the same guy and everything or whatever I get it at the same time. There's not many many Ryan Reynolds projects. I don't like I like all the Deadpool movies I like free guy. I liked that Adam project movie. He made and Wilder was good very long time ago What was uh, what was the clerks are above he did waiting waiting?

The thing of Ryan Reynolds to like it's so crazy I feel like there was a brief moment after Deadpool came out He sold mint mobile for yeah billion or whatever the gin right? He's got Aviation or something like that had Rexam right with yeah still does Mac right? Yeah, and that's a good show. I think Ryan Reynolds at one point was like the number one Ranked guy on the internet. He finally achieved that status and then the Blake Lively suit captain Justin Baldoni I don't know just Belving I saw a lot of the stuff about this Star Wars stuff and Star Wars fans are gonna get a mixed bag But I feel like Ryan Reynolds name now kind of people just as snarky even Sean Levy people kind of snarky about him, too

Really? Being the Ryan Reynolds director. Yeah, I guess so and that's it just by association I know it's like he's got Ryan Gosling in his next movie and people are still putting the stink on him I mean, I don't know anything about this lawsuit I mean, I feel like this lawsuit seems like both people kind of suck It seems like it definitely seems Yeah, I'm also just Taylor Swift is getting dragged They're trying to drag her and she's saying don't drag my name after this she cut off Blake. Yeah

I can't I can't go well rumors allegedly. Let's not get And I don't I don't want to start a fight with the Swifties I know never with this way, which was all another reason why Ryan Reynolds was bubbling up And yeah, she was gonna be in fucking Deadpool So yeah, it's it's tough out there for Ryan Reynolds tough sledding But Star Wars I wouldn't mind that being one of the rumor projects that we know is never gonna get true I wouldn't have minded having that in the pot. I still think a rated-r Star Wars project is like Absolutely viable after

Andor, like you could absolutely do that. Throw a little blood in Andor. Yeah. Yeah. Which I also was thinking about that. The Bothans, they brought the information. There was like a weird thing about that where it was, it wasn't like a direct mission as the Rogue One thing was.

It was like, they, it was like, they somehow got the, so it could be a completely different movie as well. There's something to be made there. The sickest shit is gonna be how the Emperor's like, we want to let them get this info, but we have to slow it all down. No, you know what it was in my mind? It wasn't that they got the plans for the second Death Star.

What the Bothans brought was the intel that the Emperor was directly overseeing it, and he was on the Death Star. That's what the Bothans brought us. Us, you know, the Rebellion. Our girl Mon. Our girl Mon's gonna shine in that too. Yeah. Whether it's a movie or a show. Okay. So we're cooking now. I saw someone just put out a list of the top 10 performances in Andor and she was number one and it's hard to disagree with to be honest. Like there are some people that gave great performances that don't have nearly as much

screen time. She has a lot of screen time and a lot of different things she had to do. And the fact that she made it captivating, like politics has been the thing in Star Wars we've always thought was boring. And she was able to make it, like her having like a strained marriage and having to marry off her daughter was somehow the most interesting part of the show for a while. What if they special edition the prequels and it's just mon scenes taken over like the fucking talking fish on the fucking planet. That the fucking talking fish I'm in on it before we get into the last of us let's remind everyone about one of our favorite sponsors here in the basement that is

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I was kind of in the range where I was like, okay, it definitely hasn't been as good but Alright, let's get into the G conversation here. I thought Going into the finale. This was not a great season season one. I would say was a great season Yes, I would still say this was a good season Would you agree or do you do or are you more in the middle? I'm trying to think of a word that's less than good. Pretty good? But not like bad.

Decent? I guess pretty good kind of works. And I don't know if I'd even say it was pretty good. It was satisfactory. Like yeah. That's a little school grade for your ass. Fine? Would you say it was fine?

It was fine. Because I think this is the thing that's so weird about this show This season I should say is I feel like half the stuff works and then half the stuff I'm like yeah, yeah, and it's crazy that it happens in the same show I don't understand where last season was fucking I Honestly Bob like when I think of last season I'm like man I'm just like I'm thankful that you got me into the show. I loved it so much.

I was so scared because it's a zombie show because I'm a big scaredy cat. It's actually not even a zombie show anymore. They don't even exist. There wasn't a lot of them in season two. The characters act like that they don't even, that we don't have fucking fungus running around in any of these places.

And maybe Seattle is like cleaned out of them, but I haven't even thought about, I'm just thinking about humans. I'm not thinking about the clickers and stuff like that. So I think that kind of hurts me too. It's been a lot less to worry about this season. I don't like that as well. My brother-in-law said the same thing.

Like he liked the show. I liked the show season two as well. But as soon as we talked about it, he was like, yeah, I wanted more clickers. Yeah. And again, I do not enjoy that. I do not like the, what are those? The creepers, the ones that- The stalkers, right?

The stalkers, yeah, the ones that have like level leveled up, I don't enjoy them, I feel, like how I feel during that, but it feels like it's part of the world. And at this point, like when Ellie's doing reckless shit, I'm like, oh yeah, she should be. There hasn't been a fucking zombie episodes now. Everyone's telling her to be so careful, why? Yeah, we haven't seen one in Seattle.

Like you get to Seattle, they're all in the warehouses. You would expect walking dead, they would have them walk in the streets at least. I also noted in this episode, anytime they're walking the streets of a city, they're right in the middlehouses, you would expect walking dead, they would have them walk in the streets at least. I also noted in this episode, anytime they're walking the streets of a city, they're right in the middle of the street in the most like visible vantage point. They never walk in the sidewalks,

which I guess you could say maybe the zombies could be close to the windows or the doors or whatever. But walking, seeing Jesse and Ellie walk through Seattle in this episode, I was like, they're right out in the open for the taking. Everyone to see. Yeah. Like you couldn't do that in Kansas City, let alone. Yeah, do it here where they have

Felt more like packed as a city. Yeah, and so that is part of the reason why going into this episode it was like Passing grade and by the end and this episode was kind of more the same where it's like there was stuff I liked and there was stuff. I didn't like yeah, it wasn't stuff. I loved I wouldn't I don't there was stuff. I hated I was just say there was stuff I liked and there was stuff. I didn't like I think the finale had a couple moments. I really liked I Think there are maybe like two moments. Yes, some bullshit moments. Oh, it's like the L words love like is another thing Yeah, true. So Bob's a big Bob likes to throw the word great around I'm a more of a good So let's get into it we open with

The arrow got shot through Dean's leg in the last episode and I had forgotten about that already Cuz we had the flashback episode in between so I was like My wife goes what happened to Dina and she was like, yeah, she got hurt. I'm like shot or something It was in the forest, right? One forgot about yeah, so it's not just you I'm happy you said that cuz I was like that's not a good sign for a For a show is that everyone forgets it? Yeah, and it granted it was the flashback And yeah, I get that but it was so rushed that I did feel like we would count it and I remember KFC saying When we had him on he's like if you get like a gunshot that could be the end of you

Because modern medicine is exactly thriving at this point. So then he's like Jesse tells Dina I can't pull it out cuz I know where your artery is I gotta push it through and I was Winston before he even did like that was like one of those look away from the screen I was watching my computer. I was doing one of these so it was Brutal and then she turns down the alcohol a big Sign where he's like, that's a little strange. Why don't you take a sip of this and she's like absolutely not I can't for medical reasons basically. All right, so you're pregnant the pregnant I liked how they mixed in the pregnancy hint there which then got him thinking

and we've all been there with just the Whatever they're throwing on the wound like alcohol. Yeah at him thinking. And we've all been there with just the, whatever they're throwing on the wound, like the alcohol on the wound. Like remember when you start, you scrape your knee and the, what was it, the hydrogen peroxide would come out of you, you're like, no! I kinda did what you did. I look in the upper left-hand corner of the screen.

Whenever there's a clicker, I'm looking up to the left-hand corner. I'm too scared to look at that shit. When they go in the green room afterwards, he's like, Dean is in the green room. I also thought some of the left-hand corner. I'm too scared to look at that shit. When they go in the green room afterwards, he's like, Dina's in the green room. I also thought some of the stuff that hasn't worked this season has been the romantic stuff, I think, between Ellie and Dina.

Yeah. It's been a little weird. Like we talked about the I'm immune, I'm pregnant. Yeah. Why don't you have the conversation about the immunity? That's a big- It's a big reveal. Big reveal.

I thought it was done best in this episode, actually. I thought the dynamic between Jessie being a little jealous and being like she tells you what she doesn't tell me anymore felt realistic to me and then she's talking about his baby like it's not her baby but it's like and like the accidental slip-up of when they're going through and he says like she's pregnant she's like shit I loved how you wait you were guessing that was really good that was also like another thing that felt real to real or she was like just she's gonna tell you so please act surprised Like that whole exchange Jesse. I thought was really good. Jesse's actor was

believable in every scene I thought I that was one of the big winners of the season for me was the guy who played Jesse from even back at Jackson I was like, I like this guy when they go in the green room I noted they had a time accurate green day poster. It was for the American Idiot tour, which you know, American Idiot came out in 04. This is around the same time. I wanted to note that because when I rewatched

the flashback episode, I was catching Lady Fox up, so we watched flashback into this one. I noted there's a poster that Ellie has in the garage, a Strokes poster, and I'm pretty sure it's the exact poster I have in the punk room for all time low. It has the code to uh, like scan for spotify Oh, wow, and I think they like white out in the spotify But it was like interesting like I love the little um set decoration stuff Like I feel like that would be a really fun job set decorator and stuff music nerdum is a side

I can't even fathom, you know all the stuff. I love is pretty high-level I love that like you know that kind of and I was really looking at all the posters in Ellie's room I appreciated she had like two posters that were the exact same. I was like, that's kind of like funny She is like one poster on this wall one poster in that wall. I was like, yeah, you probably don't have a lot of Options. Yeah, it's like we got two of these I'll put them both up. They're all Seattle bands I thought that was cool that Ellie's obsessed with every grunge band from Seattle in the season where they go to Seattle and everything I thought that was cool. And then we get something that threw me off When they're so Dina Dina patches Ellie up when she comes back from the hospital. She's like putting the stuff on her back

She's fucked up. She's way fucked up. up and I was also like where did that come from? I don't remember them getting into like that much of a scuffle and fight in the hospital I was I guess when they were running through or I mean you figured just and you're just falling around banging around if someone's just Taking a look at your back in general, but I was in the same boat. I was like, I don't be in that bed I'm like, you know, I'm just gonna sit here quietly when you're the dad in the family. You don't bring up things like Like, you know, I'm just going to sit here quietly. When you're the dad in the family, you don't bring up things like that. Roasted.

I roasted my dad with it. I've learned to avoid getting roasted at all points at all costs. Well, then Ellie's like super shook. Obviously she tells her everything tells her about the immunity, tells her about Joel, the hospital, the Raiders, all of it. I thought this was very good acting from both of them in the scene and people are shitting on it online. People were like, the video game seems so much better. The emotion, she didn't convey it the right

way this was I made a note of being like goddamn that was good acting this is when she was talking about Nora yeah yeah I thought that was good that was that was what I believed her and I haven't believed Bella Ramsay 100% of the way through the season I I understand there's some criticism to be had but I thought this was good so this is the thing that I think allows me to enjoy the show more than the video game people. Ellie, the video game character, doesn't exist to me. I don't know what she is. Yeah.

She seems like she's a little sweeter. Like she just looks nicer. Yeah. Because I think Bella Rams, I think Lady fucking Mormont, who's totally fucked shit up. She's cold. Yeah. She's ready to go fight the the Night Walkers. She's not all this sweet little bird. I feel like in the video game she seems nicer. I don't know. But again, Abby's jacked in the game. Don't care. Yeah. Too scared to play it. It really doesn't matter to me. And maybe it would if

I had played the game. And I do understand people being like, it's not the adaptation I thought we would get. If you're just coming at it from an HBO show point of view, though, you don't have that hang up. Yeah. For most of the characters. And that's and I think that's what makes us different. That's why I kind of like having the different perspectives where Kevin, as a video game person, can say, no, this felt weird. For us, you know, we're not book readers in Game of Thrones. I'm sure there's a lot of things that book readers hated in the show because it didn't,

you know, follow up beat for beat. They were all like eight years younger, which would have been very problematic. I like that Tom Cruise, Jack Reacher movie that came out forever ago. It was like 2012, they made a Jack Reacher movie that came out forever guys like 2012 They made a Jack Reacher movie before the show and Reacher fans Absolutely hate it because he's supposed to be seven feet tall and jacked and buff and anyone that has seen the movie and doesn't know The the lore of Reacher is mostly like yeah good movie. It's the guy who directs all the Mission Impossible movies now It's like another situation like that. I feel like how did June people feel about our boy Timmy and I think they really like them

Okay Especially because there was like a so-so adaptation and yeah Already got it wrong. Yeah. Yeah, but we get something that confused me when I saw it at first when it says Seattle day three on the screen So it's like we haven't been getting on screen like day three, day two, day one, right? We did. We did? Yeah, we got day one, day two, most certainly. I did not remember that because when I saw day three,

I was like, they gotta be doing something with a time skip in this episode, right? And they wound up doing it at the end. Yeah. Where it made sense, but I did not remember the on screen stuff. So they did it and it does like now looking back, that was a lot of stuff to happen in those days

I know I thought it was more than three days. I forget that they would do it then I'd see day two my car We're in day two now, but now I'm thinking like all this stuff happened in just those three days Also, like I don't know if I needed that I don't feel like I'm when I watch day one two and three from someone else's perspective I'm like, oh this must have been going on with Ellie. I really I think it was just for the ending of the episode Yeah, that might be it. Yeah. Yeah, that could be it. Could do like, we're going back.

Yep. It's like a loss. We gotta go back. We have to go back. Dina gives Ellie the bracelet. Jesse's just being real bitchy about the whole thing. I mean, he knows at this point, but hasn't confronted Ellie before they go out.

So he's just being rude. So the baby's definitely not Ellie's baby. Definitely not Ellie's baby. Jesse finds out Dina is pregnant on the walk. The wolves get one of the scars and Ellie wants to go save him. She's like, he's just a kid. He's like, what the hell are you doing? And this is where they really start to hammer home in this episode, especially. War's bad. both sides are bad.

Like you do one thing, you think it's for the best, the other side will do the same thing. Even the kids, he was saying to her, like even the kids wanna lynch people or whatever it is. And I'm on the scars, yeah. I also thought this scene was like good. It was like when I heard a gunshot for the first time, you go, oh shit, like you better get cover.shot for the first time you go. Oh shit like you better you better get cover

You better hide behind a dumpster. I Did not like the I so when they you realize they're not getting chased. Yeah, they're chasing the scar I was like, all right, then when Ellie's like I'm gonna go run and save this kid I'm like when they were in Kansas City They were just hiding and you know like granted there wasn't like a kid about to be killed and it wasn't like a five-year-old You know what? I mean, it was like it's someone who's probably done some fucked up shit in this war I and again, I don't know if the video game Ellie was like this where she'd be like I'm gonna go walk and try to save the day stop her. It was fucking stupid. Yeah

It was really stupid these Ellie things have been driving me nuts all season and I'm just kind of just gonna like bite my lip But this was like one of the more egregious one. Jesse does raise some valid points about Even these alley things have been driving me nuts all season and I'm just kind of just gonna like bite my lip But this was like one of the more egregious one. Jesse does raise some valid points about He's just a good person and Ellie is and he's always trying to do the right thing He's always trying to do the right thing for the community. He talks about earlier in the episode He talked about the painter right that came tonight Maybe that was later and it was a little later in the episode We talked about the painter and how he wanted to go but he stayed for the community and everything like just a good guy

You know you call that he's a pillar a pillar of the community. Yeah, I would say Ellie She in a pillar. She's not a Kind of like she's scaffolding Yeah, it's kind of like something that you like but it's like almost bad for the house in the end of the day Yeah, it leads to some bad stuff. Yeah It's like know what that could be booze of the community like Little but then you have the hangover like Ellie is not a pillar. She's most certainly not and Jesse is that And you know who else is that we get a lot of talk about Tommy in this episode you get to see him towards

The other but he's tall he talked about the entire episode and it made me think I wish we got a lot more Tommy in season 2 I think Tommy could have filled an interesting Joel void and not just like fit him into that Joel character and make him Ellie's guardian but just like I wanted a little more him with the sniper like him being the sniper from the town and all that he was great in episode 2 when he's fighting off the horde and everything I would have liked a lot more him and that's and then Joel is kind of like That too right the pillar and yeah lose him and then yeah, if you had a guy like Tommy and then Tommy's wife She's a yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they show her a flashback episode to the conversation

She is with Joel right before he goes on and pushes Seth Seth the bigot. Yep Pillar he has you might be he's he's giving people birthday cakes and he's the bartender pillar potential. Yeah. Or on a good day. He's like a post, like, you know, in the basement, you have like the little post. Oh, yeah. I had one of those in the basement. My mom covered it with a carpet growing up. Oh, we covered ours.

My dad and I'm coming ours with wood. Yeah. It's four little wood things around. And yeah, that's the carpets, a white trash thing. But we did that. We did the it. Yeah That's the carpets a white trash thing, but we did that we did the carpet it worked in the night It's like a nice thing. I'd say as a as a wrestling fan growing up with that thing That was a turnbuckle for life and it was rug burn central where just rug burn every day But you know what if it wasn't covered you would have probably been doing hardcore rules. Yeah cutting yourself. Yeah then we get

Forget her first name, but her last name is Park. She comes and gives an update to Jeffrey Wright's character we saw her two episodes ago when we were talking about the basement She was like my son went down there. Whatever She comes and gives an update to Jeffrey Wright and he's asking about where Abby is. He's very concerned She's like listen. We got an army. Don't be concerned about. And he gives her this awesome monologue where he's like, odds are you'll be dead by sun up. Odds are even better that I'll be dead by sun up. We need someone to take control of the army.

And Abby was next man up basically. What's Abby? What is she? Pillar. She's everyone's pillar. He sees pillar potential in Abby. He does see pillar potential and you get, you start to get a vibe of like,

it's not just that small group of the wolves that follow her. She is kind of like, she's the chalamet. She's the next Leo of the group or whatever. She's the next one. Yeah, she's got the juice. I thought that was a good scene. I also loved when he said like,

despite their name, they're an army of sheep. He's calling the wolf sheep. Yeah, yeah, I like that. Good line. That was a good line. Jeffrey Wright, another one where we should have got a little more him this season So that was one of my takes I feel like we were Bamboozled a little bit a little bit now. I do think he will be a fixture. Yeah season three now But I I think if more Jeffrey Wright would have helped this season

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This is where Jesse talks about the painter and they hear gunshots on the radio and you hear it's a sniper. Because it's the wolves calling it in, being like, there's a sniper, he's picking us off. And you know that, you're like, that's our guy Tommy. We remember the tutorial at the beginning of the season. And we find out- Remember the tutorial?

Abby's in the aquarium. We don't really find it out. Ellie realizes it. She puts it together in her head because Nora said like the whale And she's like oh, it's the aquarium. She's in so she says to Jesse. Let's go. He's like no I voted no actually Right in my opinion like that was one thing where me and my sister talked about this It was a little hard for me to believe that Ellie would want revenge over saving Joel's brother when that's like

What's left of Joel is Tom and it's like but she's like so fueled she's she's basically flipped like Anakin the Vader at this point she's just like revenge yeah even trying to do the right thing yeah and and Jesse's a hundred percent right and justified in everything he's saying in this conversation in my opinion and at this point I'm separating the fan side of me that's like Ellie, you're being an asshole, just as a fan. Yeah. And then I'm also like the show watcher

where I'm like, I don't, again, maybe this is where this character is gonna go, dude, where it goes. But I just, I was like, what the fuck are we doing here? That was the one thing I, I just didn't buy it. Although the one thing I liked about the scene, the actual like look out from the side of that building, you could see the whole city, you could see the water.

Visually it was awesome. So when Ellie, I put the visual of her on the boat too, was out of this world. That was HBO, prime time, nine o'clock Sunday night show. That was worth whatever the amount of money they spent. His last line to her too when he's like, I hope you make it. Oh, that was a great That was tough. Yeah when fucking

Jesse right when he says I'm a father I can't so I can't die. Yeah He got that card immediately Just gonna retire me and the wife it's like you are so I gotta be honest I didn't see coming at all See a comment all in this slightest. I'm screaming at the TV. I'm like you're fucking dead Like I'm crazy and I'm like you fucking moron. Why did you do this to your poor child? So they split up he goes after Tommy Ellie goes to the aquarium and here's where Then the last 20 minutes you got to suspend your disbelief a lot

I think yeah as far as the Ellie stuff goes and I'm okay with it as far as what they did so The boat just sitting there the boats sitting there very convenient very convenient Then it's like it also feels like a video game which totally or like an Indiana Jones movie There's always like an extra. You know something sitting there the fact they all come when the lights all turn on yeah That's like oh shit. There's a lot of boats in that water Yeah, and then when she takes the boat though, and then she starts going and then like she gets just absolutely destroyed by a wave Yeah, and I'm like that is kind of what would happen to someone who doesn't have experience much with water I was thinking the same I was like if I got in that boat

I don't know how to control a boat like I'm not like the does Ellie know how to Friggin control a motorboat because ohboat because they weren't active, you know She's never has she ever been on one. She probably just lived in Boston like an apartment her entire Yeah, right, and then she just went across the country with John in the video game I believe she can't swim at first So it's like which makes sense when and then I guess she probably still can't swim We don't know if she can swim because she like washed up It's not that washed up and and I agree that was like I was like all right it's

believable she failed she wasn't able to get to the aquarium and I thought it was just gonna be like all right now for the rest of the episode she's on this crazy scar island it's very quickly like they try to hang her the kid does the crazy like gutter it's like oh my god and then there they have something else to be concerned about she gets on a boat and she gets there in two seconds that was like oh Yeah, didn't love that don't want to offend the people that ruin the episode for me I wasn't like worst thing to ever grace HBO

It's just like all right That's a that's a leap too far and we talked about are they taking leaps too far as where Clemmer was like I can't believe Jesse was able to just find them in the middle of Seattle this episode They kind of were like here's exactly how Jesse found them in the middle of Seattle. This episode, they kind of were like, here's exactly how Jesse found them in the middle of Seattle. They have a conversation about that. So I liked that. Yeah.

It would have been amazing if they did reach you just to like settle down the internet. You know, yeah, real quick. This episode, Jesse, we have to get you out and shoot for a day. And her seeing the explosions going off as she's going away from the island. I also thought we're cool. Cause now I'm like, I want to to know I'm sure we're gonna get it sees three what was going on right there when the wolves are bombing the

island or I assume bombing it with the explosion levels and so many of them were going I also thought she was gonna sneak onto one of their boats because they were all wearing those big jackets I don't want to get into an Obi-Wan rant in the middle of Last of Us. I just got to say, the more I think about that show, the more I'm starting to slide it out of my head cannon. It's out of the G-Word. I was pretty positive about a lot of it. I still like that Vader stuff. I like most of the Vader stuff they did in the show. The Leia thing, I'm having a hard time coming to grips with Leia and Obi-Wan knowing each other so well.

That has been so far removed from, I've already had that so long ago, where now I've taken the actual lightsaber fight and killed that, remember? I did that like two weeks ago. And you saying that like kind of re-brought it up in my brain, and the more I think about it, the more I'm like, Andor made so much of the original trilogy better, and that makes a little bit of the original trilogy better and that makes a little bit of the real original trilogy a little worse And then yeah Like so much of that and then book of Boba Fett kind of fucks up Post return of the Jedi a little bit

So a lot of the bad Disney plus Star Wars shows really do fuck up and then this one made it everything about it Touched so need Gilroy just overseeing everything. I know he's like someone pointed out They were like give the man a break. He has made more live action Star Wars than anyone alive. Which is crazy, but he has. And Cassian Andor, the most screen time any Star Wars character has ever had. Is that true? Yeah. Wow.

Crazy. So she sees the explosion, she gets to the aquarium, she sneaks in, and we see two people talking, she holds him hostage, she wants them to both point at the map and it better be the same. There's the jaw, which I love. We use that, yep, I love that as well. And he pulls for a gun.

She shoots in the exact moment. Hits him like in the throat or something. And then you see the reveal of the bullet hole in the cabinet behind her. Awesome moment. And I was like, oh fuck. That's like, oh my God, she hit both because they show it graze the one and then she

Unveils that she's pregnant and that was as almost as big as of an oh shit moment as the show could have I thought Yeah, like out loud. I was like, oh my god. This is insane. She's a baby killer and she's like cut it out She's like you have a knife. She's trying to give her instructions last second It was like an oh my god She's trying to give her instructions last second. It was like an oh my god Another one that I thought was very well acted by everyone in that scene the guy bellaramsie the girl all of them even when Tommy and Jesse come to pick her up and Tommy Yeah

really like kind of assumes that Joel like The the hug and then look at Jesse kind of like the hug that Joel gave her and looked at Tommy when she was on Painkillers last week like that, I thought that was an incredible scene. That's why like for all the stuff I don't like about the show, scenes like that, I'm like, the show is fucking good. Yes. It was good and I could sense it, right? Yes.

Could you imagine being those two people as you're like mounting the offensive against the scars and dealing with Abby or whatever they're doing? And she shows up, Ellie who you probably have forgotten all about. And the guy's trying to good cop her a little bit, being like, I let you go, right? Like, you remember that? Like... Now the thing is, Joel would have shot him in the kneecap to start it off.

Like, yeah. But she doesn't know. She just... The fact she uses the Joel method I did love, but she doesn't know, like, the little tricks of the trick. You can't let the guy just sit there, because if there is a gun, he's going to go for it. And you had a feeling when he gives...

When he looks at the girl he was with and just looks at her, you're like, oh, he's gonna try something right now. Yeah, he's gonna go for it. I'm like, dude, don't do it. Owen, I think was his name, right? Yes, yes. Like, don't do it, Owen, don't go for it.

He went for it. And then she's talking about transverse. I have my wife talking about, I'm like, what the fuck is she talking about? And she's like, it's cut, you have to cut left to right under the belly button. I'm like, what is going on? I thought she was gonna try for a sec.

I was like, Sienna, get out of the room. I was like we're not watching Baby get cut out of a dead person line and then when the mom dies I'm like wait is the baby just dead like that she's like once the mom's heartbeat stops I guess the baby stopped. Yeah, which feels like bullshit Is that what she said like make sure you cut the umbilical cord to could that a problem might be? Yeah, it's just so weird that it's like when this engine dies, that engine dies. I know. It feels like the baby should have a little more, this is dark shit that we're talking

about. It's like it should have a phone charge on it, you're saying? Yes, exactly. It's like it took it off the charger, now you have like, I'll give it like a minute because it's inside. And I was also thinking in my head, is this going to become like Abby, we're going to skip forward 10 years eventually and Abby's raising this baby and it's a Joel thing. I was thinking the difference with her as a baby where she's caught out. It's like all the more devastating that she just like she doesn't have it in her to even try. Yeah that's true she doesn't even try she's so shook and now she's like become this monster that I mean it's kind of like

Joel just killed a doctor without thinking about it. Abby kills Joel. Yeah and it wasn't as you know direct on purpose but she did it. And this was all for revenge for Joel. And now she's killed three people who were in Abby's crew and an innocent baby. And it's like some... Ellie's racking up some bad juju points. Yeah. And then they have the conversation about it. They go back to Dina. They go back to the Seattle like amphitheater, whatever that was, the concert hall and they they're sitting on the stage I thought that was another good scene where they're he's like Like are you content with letting Abby go or whatever?

she's like, I guess I'm gonna have to like learn to be and they're talking about again like Yeah, you can't you can't this isn't worth it. I'll be honest Bob. I didn't hear that. I was so shook from that I'm getting house of the dreamer house of the dragon so shook from that. I'm getting House of the Dreamer House of the Dragon, where every week there was a pregnancy scene and a baby. Every week we would get closed captioning, squelching. You'd be like, come on. And like bad stuff was happening to you, the mom, the baby or both.

And it was not good. So I I didn't even hear that. So basically, Abby, Ellie said, like, I'm good letting Abby go now. Not necessarily. Tommy is like, you're going to have to learn to live with with that and she's like, she's basically like I guess I'll learn How to cuz they're not like oh, we're gonna go I almost died Dina's all fucked up and you killed a baby. We're not gonna keep trying. Yeah avenge Joel. We've killed like all her friends

Yes, which at some point I just started saying Having Abby once you got to Seattle and be like, oh this place I guess she doesn't really realize it's a war zone till this episode Let her just live in her days out in Seattle. It's so much worse. It's horrible. You're in prison basically Yeah, and you're in fucking Jackson where you have like air conditioning at this point Right. Yeah, you've got cassettes vinyls guitars Christmas every year Yeah, beautiful and she decided to go out get revenge on Joel I am Ellie's plan no matter what happens whatever how it ends was a bad idea. I'm putting that out there Yeah, no was it was and that's why the community voted against it

Yeah, pillars the pillars the pillars usually know what they're talking about I've learned that in life. Then you hear a struggle from outside, like where I guess they were staying, the lobby of the venue. And I swear part of me was like, they're going to run out and Dina's moving furniture. And it's going to be a happy ending to the season. The fact that they run out and Jesse gets it like that right off the bat. Ellie's hiding and you hear Abby's voice right away. And come out, you know, I'll shoot him too.

She's got Tommy gunpoint. I really thought she was gonna shoot Tommy in front of Ellie as well. I thought so too. I thought Tommy was down. Thank God she didn't, if she didn't, I assume she didn't, I still don't know what the cliffhanger holds, cause we get gun in her face, cut to Ellie, no, no, no, black.

And then Abby wakes up and did you think could that be a dream sequence because I was also like I thought it's probably not a dream sequence because she knows he killed her friends and how could she know that if it was dream but the way it was shot she just wakes up then she goes out was it was that where the Mariners play assume that was I believe stadium I think that was where the Seahawks play but But the Mariner Stadium is like futuristic looking as well. Yeah. They're right next to each other. And it's a cool looking shot to the overhead where it's like

they've basically turned the field into farming and they've got like technology and systems and everything about that. I was like, oh, that's cool. And then it hits you at the day one. So, you know, season three, you're going back. I thought it was a good episode. Like I thought it wasn't a great episode, but the oh shit moment of the pregnant,

the pregnant girl getting shot, and then the oh shit moment of Jesse getting shot, were two of the bigger oh my God moments the show has ever had. Yes, for the pregnancy was like a twist I could not have seen coming. Yeah. Right. And then the Jesse thing,

even though I was like this fucking guy is just writing his obituary every time he opens his mouth. And I foolishly didn't see that coming. What's the opposite of plot armor? Plot like Bomber like he's basically like turning himself into like a suicide bomber. Plot neon sign that says shoot me Plot suicide he So I wasn't shocked by but to see the way it happened and then it was the finality of it all. What if Ellie and she shot Tommy? I was thinking in my mind, is it Dina?

Cause we don't see Dina. That's the thing is Dina coming in for the same factor is out there. So I don't know which way we're also like, this is almost a meme at this point. The ending of this or not the ending, but the cut to black here. They're like, memeing it online. They're like, this is the worst editing I've ever seen in my entire life. It's laugh out loud funny when it cuts to Ali.

Nobody could take this seriously. I took it very seriously watching it. Like I had, it's like, I feel like it's The Last Jedi or the friggin' golden white dress with the blue and black dress. I feel like we're watching two different shows at times where people are saying it's the worst thing ever. I'm like, I thought it was not only not the worst thing ever, I thought it was good.

So I knew it was going to be a, I just didn't know how far back in Abby's life we were going. The fact that we're only going back to day one in Seattle, we're only going three days back, I thought we were going to go back to maybe a little after the hospital got this email shot up. I think we will. You think we will? I feel like we're going to go one, two a little after the hospital. I think we'll go back. Shot up. I think we will. You think we think we will? I feel like we're gonna go one, two, three, and then probably just move forward. I could be dead. I have no clue. Because they said they need four seasons now. That's true. I don't love that either. I don't either. I don't love that. Again, we had a seven episode season this year. I'm like, why the hell

could it be? Fell too short. Yeah. And we could have, so whatever. We'll get to that when we get to it. But for the season and for this episode Some stuff I like some stuff. I didn't like I honestly if I had to give it a grade. I probably give a B-minus Like you get a B-minus on the report card you like that's pretty good And you just realize like everything just gets bumped down a little extra because of that minus Yeah, that minus is kind of fucking shit out. You're like really close to a C+. Yeah, and C+, like I can't give it a C+, because that is, the Joel season alone

Totally. was one of the greatest, like not greatest episodes of TV, but it's a moment of TV. I was gonna say episode two, I think I would probably give the whole season about it being myest. I think episode two would bring it up to like a B in my mind. And what about the flashback of it, which I thought was awesome. I thought it was great. Yeah, I think that brings it up too.

The porch scene again, watching the porch scene like right before the finale again, I was like chills the whole time, bumped up. I was like, this is amazing acting and an amazing conversation. I know people wanted it to be like at the end of the entire series because I think that's how it is in the video game, that porch scene. But I thought it worked well where it was was where it's like, yeah, like Ellie knows to tell the audience that Ellie knows. Yeah.

Like I like knowing that they had that conversation before he died. I just think there was a lot of like, I want to say meat on the bone, but there was just a lot more things they could have. Yeah. The conversations we've talked about. There was like a lot of things that could have done Ellie and Dina better. You could have given Tommy more. You could have given Jesse more even you could have given Jeffrey Wright more where in season one I feel like

that stuff was addressed throughout the time with Joel and Tass and yeah people they had met along the way I felt like this season was a little rushed which I don't like being agreed so I think the person who was in charge of one wasn't around as much for two which would be the Craig Mazin was that his name I don't know it's also you're getting seven episodes and one is a flashback that pretty much entirely takes place during season one almost entirely. So it's like we really got six episodes of like this story. This has happened to us a couple of times in Game of Thrones.

Yeah, like we're kind of just getting glossed over and shoot out of the house where someone's like, it's like I'm ready to go. Like they're not telling you like just leave whenever you want. Like when the restaurant's trying to tell you like, get out. Yeah, that's what I feel like this season was with me With two fucking incredible meals along the way. Yeah flashback and obviously the Joel death I don't want to be the bear of bad news as well But I saw this weekend that it is heavily rumored that house of the dragon season 3 will be delayed Good just delay every

Good I don't want quick I want and we're getting it. We're getting a spin off in like December. So it's also like, all right, we're going back to the Thrones universe. And if it's coming out, Night of the Seven Kingdoms, I think is end of this year. We have to be very careful, though, because this is kind of the stepchild, the Star Wars, where it's like we're told these things are coming. I know I've heard about dunking the egg for Dunkin Egg. Everyone's talking about that.

They say the Jain Silent Bob of Game of Thrones. Yeah. So we'll sold Well, we don't have do we have anything coming up before July when we have the two big hitters two heavy hitters I would even go as far saying three big hitters. I'm all in on this Jurassic World movie. I think it's gonna be good. I Think it's gonna be good. It looks good to me. It's David Kep the original writer. I Think it's gonna be good. It looks good to me. It's David Kep the original writer I He's putting a scene from the original Jurassic Park. Oh, okay. No, wait. Oh god, Bob. They really have you you're you're Joe when I saw

When I saw workplace grant I'm like they brought the old guy they back No, that was bad. They they changed it up and this is Jurassic World one was gonna have this that was good Jurassic World one was good was all right. was good. Jurassic World 1 was good. It was alright. I liked the first one. It was pretty good. The second one was... I did not like the second one. I don't think I ever even saw the third one. I left the theater in the second one.

I remember you saying that. I don't know which one. And I didn't see three because I left the theater. Have you been watching the trailers for this one? I am not because I don't want to get my hopes up. I love this fucking... I don't even love the franchise. I like the first one. I love the first one. So you know, do you know the idea behind this one? It's the like other island. It's the island of all the mutants that didn't work out

Yeah, so there's the t-rex that looks like a rancor and a xenomorph I mean, that's come on. We're in on it on youtube All right, so the folks out there, I wanna be wrong, but... That one, I'm predicting now, that will make more money than Superman and Fantastic Four. Really? I think so. I'm not even going money. I don't wanna go run. We're gonna go on the ball scale.

Okay. Where do you think that's gonna rank on the three on the ball scale between us? So, if I was looking at all three,'m hoping superman 4.5 at least yeah, i'm thinking fantastic four 4.25 at least okay i'm thinking jurassic world I don't want to say it as a four ceiling But i'm thinking between three and a half four I think it has a four absolute best case scenario ceiling.

I think the floor is the lowest. I would say Jurassic Park won obvious five balls. Obvious two and three are like maybe two, like two and three. I read the fucking book for two. That's how much I love. Yeah. Two and three. Not very. I think Spielberg came back and did the third one, too, and it's just not great. The first Jurassic World, I would say three and a half.

Would you say that's fair? Three and a half balls. Yeah, I'd say so three and a quarter maybe. And I'm expecting this to be better. I'm not a Raptor guy that might come off as a hot thing. That's crazy. I'm not a Raptor guy. I've had, I've had enough.

Like, I know they hunt in packs. They're different. They were awesome in one. They've overexposed the Raptors. They're the best dinosaur. They named it's not the best. It is the best Velociraptorors the best by thing. This is what happens I was a dinosaur guy since I was in fucking preschool same they're like

Tier there are B tier no You could say they're not the best but they're absolutely how we're gonna talk if we're going s tier it's it's t-rex velociraptor First of all triceratops triceratops to nothing goes next to the T. Rats velociraptors go next no They take down any rest on some fucking triceratops goes up And if you want to get weird with like one I personally think brontosaurus is a very nice dinosaurs as well I like them. I'm also like this is what's your afters s land before time my guy little foot Oh my god, you want to cry Maybe we'll do like a rewatch of that's honestly sadder than the last of us

On Sunday night I had the Mets playing the Dodgers the Knicks playing the Pacers and the last of us Those are the three things I had to get done with and I'm like this night can go very wrong I don't know which ones can make me sadder So yeah, like having the Mets and Dragons same night. That was the Mets and fungi same night. That was a nightmare. And nothing good happened that night. And this night, actually, the Knicks won. So Bing Bong Mets won as well.

So it was a good night that night. And I guess, like you said, we got a pretty good last. Yeah, I'll give you that. And we don't have, as you were saying at the at the beginning of this Jurassic Park conversation, we don't really have anything until then. So we'll have about a month here in June where We'll have some free swim episodes some news episodes get Jose in the basement. Maybe Jose could come Break down some fantastic for stuff. We might see break down some stuff. We might see in the future Maybe even some Thunderbolt century takes on some stuff, too

I don't mean I think we needed some Thunderbolt century Oh, and he texted me he texted me I think it was last night or the night before. And he was like, I'm halfway through and or season two with my girlfriend. We think it's amazing. And I was like, you're halfway through buddy. It's about to hit like lights. Yeah. So I'm excited to get a take on that one too. I was like, bro, I was like the second you're finished with those arcs, you need to text me. That's okay. So all right. We'll get Jose when he's ready with that. Yeah. That's when we have a mind and we said t Bob for sure We'll figure out some so we got a climber on as well. Yes, maybe when we're in here next time

We'll get he'd be good for obviously we could get him on before this as well, but he's so hyped for Superman He'd be great to recap superman with and maybe Tommy too. Maybe we do one of those old-school Roundtable discussions. Yeah, it'd be fun. I'm going to catch you from the Raptors people. I know this because we should people are diehards, but there's also going to be the T Rex and the anti Raptors people. And I'm not anti T Rex. You guys fucking duck on me. I'm saying T Rex belongs there. Obviously, it's no question.

But Raptors are right next to them. What about the ones from Jurassic Park that do the fucking that's not a Raptor, though. You can't be throwing the spits or I don't know. It the fucking that's not a Raptor though. You can't be throwing the spit I don't know. It's like it's like a Raptor cousin. Don't know I'm taking those ones. I'm taking the ones that Chris Pratt can train when he's like See that that's when it got Silly but they shot at him at the end when he's on the motorcycle Raptors around him. I was like this Oh blue and then blue is there. I think yeah. Yeah blue. Yeah, I don't need you're my boy blue fucking dinosaurs

Okay, we're gonna disagree on this. So we'll just yeah, it gets crazy in the next year They start putting frickin laser beams on their frickin heads like like Austin Powers Oh, these guys will eat up anything that Raptors do so the Raptor sheep over fucked us and made Jurassic world Basically on watch so what is this one called rebirth? Here's one part from the original movie that was awesome, and this is why we're gonna get like smart There's like something in the dinosaur blood that could like cure disease or something so they got to get One from a dinosaur on land one from a dinosaur and air one, one from a dinosaur on sea. That's the fucking... I mean, that's...

You got three MacGuffins. That's ridiculous, but it's also like, I can't wait to see it. Yeah, it's gonna be great. I think it's gonna be good. And if this is an old takes exposed, forget I said everything. I'm gonna make you eat this one.

Listen, I will because I'm really like... The last two Jurassic World movies, I was like, I don't think anything of it. Well, the one where they were bringing back everyone, I was this is gonna rock and then the Raptor was like going into The little girl's bedroom and like yeah, and I was like what the hell's going on That's what I stopped watching the trailer. Oh my name was kind of cool though. You remember that one of them That was so ridiculous the auction. It's like they're auctioning off dinosaurs. Hell. Yeah, I Got the point where I don't watch the trailers because the trailers get me excited and I know my dumb brain

Well, I hit the John Williams music and the John like yeah, it's a cheat code. It's a cheat code I had the same thing with Star Wars once upon a time Alright, that was the last of us finale edition of my mom's basement hashtag pillar week If you've made it to the end of the episode, we appreciate you for listening Make sure to subscribe if you're not already subscribed and we'll see you next week