My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 439 - JURASSIC WORLD: REBIRTH REVIEW WITH HUBBS

Episode Date: July 8, 2025

Join Robbie, Clem, and Barstool's resident dino guy Hubbs as they discuss the new #JurassicWorldRebirth movie and their thoughts on the franchise as a whole! ****************************************   My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike!   Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement, presented by Barstool Sports in a very special Jurassic World Rebirth edition of My Mom's Basement. We've been saying it's coming and we've been saying we got to get hubs on because he's weirdly like the Barstool large reptile expert, I would say. Like everyone has a nerdy niche here and for the the the the the

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the the the So, I got zero when they go to the actual zero. Then we can do a recap with hubs to have it fresh. But this is the next best thing. We get to just talk big old giant lizards with our big old giant lizard guy. What do you more of a Godzilla or Jurassic guy? Do you go over the other? I knew you were going to ask me that and I it's really tough. But I think it's Jurassic.

Okay, I think I think I'm more of it. I want my first thing growing up. I want to be an archaeologist, a paleontologist. I went on like dinosaur digs. I had all the action figures. I also had the Godzilla action figures, but I don't know. Like I actually wanted to be like a paleontologist for like, until I realized there was no money in that.

So, so I think I lean dinosaurs. I just find them so fascinating, but like Godzilla came off dinosaurs as well. You know, he's not exactly a dinosaur. Obviously, he's a mutated lizard. But I don't know, man. Growing up, I just fell in love with all that shit. I had every action figure what you know, you name it. And I was I think my mom would tell a story like she took me to see Lost World Jurassic Park, the second one, and I'm so young and someone turned around was like, you know, like there's people gonna die in this. And I just, I went

to them and I just said like, you know, it's make a belief. And the guy just shut off. But that's my mom will always tell that story. So like, I was just like, on Facebook, like, yeah, I know that like, you're like, turn around asshole. I just want to watch my Raptors. Come on. That's hysterical. Quick basement keeping up front before we get into all of the Jurassic World stuff. Obviously, we'll have a Superman podcast on Friday. Very excited. We've got a big group going to see that together. I'm very excited to see it in a big group. Summer

Blockbuster feels summer vibes back. I'll also have an interview with Brody King from AEW and the singer of God's hate out tomorrow recorded that this morning. Great time. I'm interviewing TNA president, Carlos Silva tomorrow as well. And I'll have Kenny from the starting line and a new band that I'm obsessed with Winona fighter in the office this week. So both of those interviews will probably be out next week.

Um, but look out for all of that. times for the basement big stuff coming. I don't know if me and Nate and maybe even Dante could do a podcast about the Oasis trip. We've we've gone we've been back. I'm a changed man. I've seen my favorite band live now the band I've never thought I would see live. It was amazing. You gotta do one Bob. You gotta. We probably will. It's just I'm like are people gonna care. It's a few days later? I don't know. I mean, I would think anyone that watched all the ones leading up to it would then want to hear it. Because they're doing a US tour, right? Yeah, yeah. They're coming to the United States at the end of August, so...

So they're gonna want to hear what it was, because you know Oasis people are like, it's a cult. I got merch literally like everywhere on my friggin desk right now it's just like all over the place I I spent more money than you could ever imagine on merch no judging you know I saved up a long time for it but it's almost a boring story because everything went so perfectly to a tee there's no conflict in this story it was just like it was the best trip it was the best crowd it was the best city it It was just like it was the best trip, it was the best crowd, it was the best city, it was the best stadium, it was the best set list, it was the best performance,

everything about it was beyond my expectations. So it's it's like it's almost boring, it's almost boring to talk about how amazing everything was. It's a dream come true. Breaking news, Robbie Fox loves something that he loves. Never hear that on the podcast here. Alright, let's how how good they said. Those guys sound so good live like I like there are some people that

just it doesn't it doesn't sink for whatever reason and they didn't for the last like 10 years of the band. No, maybe not the last 10 years. The last like seven, eight years of the band. They were performances that sounded bad in 2009. They they were like, Liam had no

voice. He sounded like Kermit the Frog. Then he just got it back. I don't know how he got it back. But the video, like, I thought maybe when I watched the videos back, it won't sound as good as it did in person. I watched the videos back. I'm like, it's just as good as it sounded. Like they sound like they're in the 90s again. It's insane. But before we go into the Jurassic, since we have a guest here, I would just like to hear another point of view and a new set of eyeballs and a brain uh just because it's the last one we'll probably have. Hubs, what are you feeling before Superman drops

right here? How you feeling about it? Okay. So, this has been a discussion in the office. I really haven't loved the trailers. Um I think like the weird like zoom ins they're doing on faces, and there's too many of them, are rubbing me the wrong way. I'm going with low expectations. And maybe for the first time ever, I'm a summer blockbuster, I'm doing that.

Usually I'm just so excited. So I can easily be impressed here and easily like this movie. I want to like it. Superman's awesome. And the early reviews, you don't know what to look at. What's a super fan saying? Whatever they see is going to be amazing. I want to like it Superman's I'm very much in your boat. Rob, you sent me a couple of guys who are like, hey, this is pretty good that we like. So I feel a little better because of that, but I haven't loved the trailers. And it's just like, it's such a tall task

to actually land this fucking behemoth. And Jimmy can do it. And anyone can do it, Jimmy can do it. You have to see his talent. There's a lot of characters. There's a lot of characters, it seems like they're introducing and and working in. It's like that's

really hard to do. You know, even if it's two and a half hours, but yeah, hey, I'm ready. The early reviews are good and the the two reviews that have made me pretty optimistic about it. Mike Ryan, who I absolutely love

and on a lot of movies, I'm pretty pretty in line with Michael Mike Ryan's opinions on he said he loved it and he felt like so good walking out of the theater, he hasn't felt that good walking out of a movie since Top Gun Maverick. I read that and I was like, wow, that's a fucking,

that's a poll quote for ya. And then Grace Randolph, a reporter who's very polarizing, controversial, people don't like her, people love her, she liked it a lot and famously does not like a lot of James Gunn movies. So for her to flip, I think shocked a lot of people. So I'm like, all right, if that's like a gun, and I don't really know her history, but people are saying she was a gun hater that was flipped by this movie.

So I was like, oh shit, if he's flipping people, maybe it is the Superman that was promised. The funny thing is, too, based on those those trails it doesn't seem like a James Gunn project at least in terms of the superheroes where it's like the quick witted stuff and the one-liners it's like a lot of like you said zoom-ins on faces and it's like we're not going to get a ton of stuff even though I feel like we've like seen the whole movie play out in like little snippets here so maybe it's completely different and then I don't even know. I almost would rather have it be a James Gunn regular movie, because I know the floor is pretty high on that. But if the haters are like, you know, I don't know what the thing so. The very first James Gunn movie, no needle drops. He's like, that was almost like, not something that you rely on, or like you fall back

on. But it is kind of like you toss a great song in a movie. It's like, oh, I'm fucking back. So to do a movie where that's his signature thing and he's taking it out, it's kind of like a bold decision, even though you kind of have to with Superman. It's not like you could just be hitting songs like Guardians of the Galaxy again. Yeah, I wouldn't have hated that. But it's like Guardians of the Galaxy maybe might need that like a little bit of help It's fucking Superman, you know, yeah They're using the John Williams like the theme is, you know intertwined in the score. You've got John Williams enough I guess it's just like go with it. I think we're gonna have like a Superman week, though

I think I'm gonna rewatch the original which is such a classic if there any My Mom's Basement fans out there who haven't seen the original, that's such a must watch like classic classic movie, not only super superhero movie, like you will believe a man could fly, you know. And then I think I'm going to watch the documentary like super slash man, the Christopher Reeve story. Everyone's saying it's amazing. So I think I'm gonna go back to back, get real hyped up going into Superman. And then we'll have a podcast out for everybody on Friday with with our

full thoughts Alright Jurassic world my notes I wrote let's talk about some fucking dinos Spoiler warning I forgot to give one during the podcast, but we're about to talk spoilers for Jurassic world rebirth So if you haven't seen it you care about that kind of thing. I'll give you a few buffer seconds here, dude I'm not gonna sing the Jeopardy song. I almost sang the Jeopardy song, almost got this video taken down, almost got Barstool sued.

I'm not gonna do it. All right, you guys ready to go back into the podcast? Let's get back into it. Overall, I guess let's start with everyone's broad thoughts before we get into the nitty gritty on the movie. Clem I said, it was kind of a GTA meme. Oh shit, here we go again. When the trailer comes out, the John Williams score hits and you're like, I don't really

care what the last two movies did. I'm here for Jurassic World. I got really hyped. I said, this is the fucking one. It's going to be amazing. You were much more trepidatious. What were your thoughts on Jurassic World Rebirth? All right. So, I'm not bringing up the G scale right now, Bob. I hope I don't have to bring up the G scale for this one. Bob, great, good, pretty good, very good. Okay, first thing, I was not mad that you made me watch this movie.

That's good. Okay. If you had made me watch, again, I don't even remember which one I walked out of the movie theater. I would have been mad at you. This one, I think it was... I almost said a G word. I'm not even gonna say it. All things said, it was fine. It was perfectly fine as a movie. And I got some dinosaurs. I'm happy with the dinosaurs.

Some good actors. You can say whatever you want about the story, which I'm sure we'll get into. But all in all, I come in peace right now. You're not mad at me for it. Not mad at you. Okay, good, good. Hobbs, I saw you put out your initial kind of, I think you tweeted about it, right? Yeah, one little tweet, yep. And I was pretty in line with where you were, so what were your overall thoughts with Rebirth? So bad, Dominion is one of the worst movies I've ever seen. Considering what they had to work with and they bring in all the characters back. And I was so angry. I was steaming angry. They didn't kill off one main character in the last movie.

It was unbelievable to me. The last two movies are so bad. This is better than both of those. This is a rewatchable movie. If this movie is on FX on TNT, I won't turn it off. If those movies are on TNT or FX, I'm going to turn my whole TV off and maybe just go for a walk. Yeah. Like, so I gave it, I said it was like a 6.5 out of 10. Like it's just, it's just fine. I know I would never call it great. I would never call it bad. Like it has, I have so many, I have many criticisms that I've written down here. But there's also good things that happen in this movie. And I think it's shot

pretty well. And there's some good acting performances. There's some things I didn't care about my my biggest gripe I came away with is I wanted more death because they hyped up death in this movie like we're gonna kill a lot of people. And it felt like they did it. And yeah, I don't know how specific we wanted to get right off the bat, but like Mahershala Lee's character, like how did he live and why did he live? Because that was a good situation for him

to sacrifice himself and stuff he had talked about early in the movie about making a difference and all that. And he just gets out, he's like, I'm fine. Like, I don't know, I wanted better deaths. There's one really good death. The pterodactyl guy, you know, swallowing the guy whole awesome. Great. Like that was like hell yeah. But there was nothing besides that. Like Krebs death at the very end. The antagonist is nothing. He just gets it. It's so quick. And you get his arm on the briefcase, I guess

is like the she shakes it off. And that was kind of like a funny like, oh, whatever. But yeah, needed more needed more there. But yeah, I think there's really like the real the lagoon scene I thought was done so well. I it's one of the scenes in the whole franchise. And it's something they were hyping up in the book from the start. So all in all, six point five out of ten. I was not mad. I saw it.

I had heard it could have been, Clemmer's thing was like, this could have been a really good movie. And I agree if they just tweaked some things. I agree with that. So that does leave like some to be wanting for, but overall like I'm perfectly okay that this movie came out and yeah, I'm happy they did it.

Bob, I'm gonna use one of your analogies that I've loved. I've used it for the whole basic year here. Hubs, we were saying Marvel, it feels like the plane was in turbulence, and it was diving. And finally, the last few projects kind of steadied us. I think we almost have the seatbelt seat off at this point, and we can start serving drinks again on the flight. I think Jurassic Park, if this one flopped, I think the crash, it was a crash landing, no survivors and just hell. I feel like we still

have turbulence and we're still like not feeling great, but at least it's not going down anymore, the plane, right? You're at least leveled off. Although this might be like an indestructible plane because reviews are like fine. It's like a 55 or something on Rotten Tomatoes and it's got like the biggest opening of all time 341 million weekend everyone's saying this is the indestructible franchise so far where it's like a bunch of bad movies in a row horrible reviews does not matter I'm there every single time. And even this movie, like personally, I thought it was fine. Like you guys, I would say I even liked it. But I would say it's like just over the threshold of having liked it for me, because I felt similar to Clemmer in that I was like, almost wanting the good movie that was trapped in here somewhere to pop out. Like I

was so interested in the research team. I thought that was like a great story. I was not so interested in the family subplot where you work shit like that and with the baby Dino was so forced in like, you know, Oh look baby group, baby Yoda, baby Dino. It was just like, oh my god. We're doing this kids. Kids suck so much in these movies. I know and it's like, I get the thought of like the original had it, it's a family franchise involved the kids but like just make one without the kids. Like we actually don't need them anymore. So like that's the drawback.

I'm sorry. You're saying the first kids were awesome. Of course. First kids, of course. I wouldn't say that. Everyone else sucks. First kids, of course. Of course. But wouldn't do that. No, everyone else sucks. First kid. Yeah. Of course. Of course.

But they doomed the franchise. They were so good that they think that we need kids in every one of these movies. And every single pair of kids are like, awful like a divorced family. It's the same situation. It's always, yeah. The trauma dumping in this movie is unreal. What was that, that one scene

between Scarlett Johansson, Maritza Ali on the boat? Oh my god. What the fuck was that scene? She's like, the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about

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the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about like, this is the sad story about a prospect ever. Like, this guy's you know, best friend died in a car accident in their arms. I'm like, oh my

god, what's going on? It was the same thing. Trauma dumping. Yeah. Every person in the movie had some kind of like disastrous backstory that was so you didn't need stuff like that. Like, I also thought there was a lot of individual

scenes that were really cool and I agree that it was directed well. Like, Gareth Edwards is a really good director for this franchise. I would sign him up for the next one, but maybe give him like a better script. And I love David Capp, obviously great screenwriter. I don't know if he did his best work on this one because a lot of the journey to me felt easy because it was almost like rushed.

Like it felt like they got the samples fairly easily to me in the movie. It didn't feel like there was a lot of like pushback where I've watched like, I thought about this when I saw them climbing up to the nest, I watched free solo a documentary where I knew the person in it survived. And I was still so on the edge of my seat when he's on the side of that cliff. I was like the whole movie could have been the journey up to that nest. And it would have been suspenseful. And you could have had a lagoon scene them getting to the island but instead

it was like very quickly it was like oh we're up here we got the sample we're back down here and then you got to deal with like the d-rex and the mutated dinosaurs and shit like that but it felt like an easy journey to me am i crazy saying that like it felt like them getting the samples was like not that hard no it felt like when they were making the script, it's like, okay, we got to get three samples. So boom, boom, boom. And then we're going to have lagoon scene. And then we're going to have the final ending. And that's the movie. Like there's, yeah. Although I will say this, some good they did everything on the water was awesome. Yeah. And I didn't like the family because every scene that the kids are in and they, they, they put lagoon

scene in the trailer, but you see the kids are there. they they put the lagoon scene in the trailer But you see the kids are there so you know no one's gonna die like you just know That takes away from it, but like everything on the water. I thought was really good I thought the most source the spinosaurus that was cool like there was even the family's first scene like I felt like an Oh shit when the boat goes over on the side. It's like an oh my God moment. And that is almost it's, it's almost felt, I was going to say redundant because Godzilla minus one just did the jaws remakes so well that I almost like got flashback to like, Oh, we're, we're doing that again.

Um, but it was like, it was a really good scene. The water stuff was the best, that stuff. And then the, the lagoon, the T- T-Rex, maybe my favorite shot in the movie was when the T-Rex is sleeping. The boat inflates and then flips over and the T-Rex is no longer there. And I know it's like silly, like a T-Rex disappears out of nowhere, but that felt like kind of whimsical Spielberg-y to me of like, oh shit. And I saw someone comment that it was scarier for them to treat the T-Rex just like an animal in the wild in that moment than it was to treat it like it's evil monster. Like the T-Rex kind of just like walking up to the boat slowly as they're like paddling

for their lives. That was fucking cool. And that was scary. The T-Rex like bobbing for apples almost like underwater is there underwater? That was great. Even the T-Rex going between the two rocks trying to get them and then backing out. I almost felt bad for it. I was like, that looks fucking painful. This thing doesn't know what it's doing, but that stuff rocks.

That was like where I was like, yes, Gareth Edwards was the fucking choice for a movie like this. It's almost like they made the movie. Like they made the movie just to make that scene. They were like, we have to nail this. It's almost like they made the movie. Like they made that, they made the movie just to make that scene. They were like, we have to nail this. Yeah, yeah. Because that had been something the Jurassic like audience has wanted since the book came out.

Like that scene has just never been used and it's such a good one. What you said about like viewing the T-Rex like in its natural habitat like that. That's kind of also like what the T-Rex was envisioned like in real life where it almost was like quiet. Like how- Oh really?

Like when the wrath blows up and then all of a sudden he's gone. Yeah. T-Rex was like pretty good about being quiet despite being this massive, massive predator. I also just liked how curious they made it look. Like he was like, what are these guys on the road? Let me just slow.

Like it's almost more terrifying watching him go slowly right after, as they're paddling as fast they can. Like it's not like in a, not to take any of the for the original, but the original, like when the T-Rex is chasing him in the, in the car and it's like, it's running full speed.

This one's like, huh, I'm just going to slowly get up here. And then I'm swimming, I'm doing my thing. And then boom, they're all in the water. Um, yeah, I thought that T-Rex scene was great, the only flaw of it is that it involved the children, so like, you knew they, unless they were killing the boyfriend, who I thought should have died at some point in the movie as well, um, and like the hero of the movie, whoever. I warmed up to him for sure. His character development's really good, cause he's a dickhead to start where he's not even like wanting to take take the reins on the boat and then yeah he like

the dad ends up liking him. Maybe the dad could have died. I just wanted more death really. I saw you started writing the blog about it Hubs you like more people need to die in Jurassic Park or whatever the Jurassic movies and I was like that that's true for this movie and it's probably true for a lot of the other movies and the thing about the first one is you had these like, oh, fuck, that's really the toilet. I remember that was like, oh, Peter erupts with the toilet scene. Newman getting spit on to death and then clever girl is an all time great line before the death.

And it's like we are definitely missing those. And they still have like the dinosaurs to do it with. They even have good actors now if they wanted to kill one. Or you could just like kill a bunch of just, you know, see D list characters. And to do it with. They even have good actors now if they wanted to kill one or you could just like kill a bunch of just, you know, CD list characters and they don't do

kind of any of that. They I guess, you know, like you said, we got the the nest one and we got the one with the when you think you're safe on the beach and she just gets pulled in. I thought she. Yeah, that was cool. That was good. That was

cool. I don't really know anything about her though. That's the one thing. It's like, you know, she seems like a better one. Did you guys catch who was the actor who dies on the boat? Bobby was it his name in the movie? Yeah. Did you catch that? No, no. Really? I don't think so. It's the it's the OG villain in Deadpool. Oh, oh shit. Really? Yeah. I didn't catch that at at all No, but Bobby had a pretty good death to him getting like pulled off the boat like that I thought was pretty good Clem as a big t-rex guy. How did you feel about the t-rex representation in this movie? I like the change It was really a huge change and I do think like it all t-rex is don't have to be these

Imposing figures and granted where we thought it t-rex is in 93 we think much different in 25 Which I'm sure all the other guy that doesn't like posing figures and granted where we thought it's your exes in 93 we think much different in 25 which I'm sure all the other should also didn't rise paleontologist make no money

that was a nice educational thing on the pot so thank you for that. I kind of just tell her say that you don't watch friends. I kind of just feel like like the T. rex I like this one that he was like he felt like a guy that was just having like a day out like fishing on his own, you know, had a nice lunch and just passed out and like woke up and was like having himself a day.

Like he's like Huckleberry Finn, the dinosaur Huckleberry Finn was just having his day by the river and then met this group. And I guess the one thing that I think is right, the people not being able to die, but I like the way we're introduced to the dinosaurs. I love how the spinospheres are like, oh no, he hun hunt with them so all right that makes sense and it gives you fear of them along with the big I don't know the name of the big guy but all that kind of stuff the brontosaurus crew I love the brontosaurus group were they looking to bang was that like was one of he and fucking I thought we were gonna get dinosaur sex and I didn't know where we were going with that so

I got a little worried um but I just liked how they kind of introduced all the dinosaurs and it felt organic instead of like obviously the park, they would be in different spots like a zoo. This was a little more organic because they're wild creatures in this place where no one lives anymore. But again, that's the thing about the T-Rex, Bob. That's why he's an S-gear. He could be the big bad who just is the villain or he could be a guy who's just kind of in a lazy Saturday and runs into the crew that's why he's the I thought

the Raptors were creepy as fuck in this like if you're doing a mutated Jurassic movie them giving them like the gross gullet and everything I was like all right creepy I also thought the D rex was gonna be a much bigger part of the movie than it wound up being we get the scene in the beginning which I thought ripped a funny that it was all over a fucking like a Snickers rapper Vent but I thought very like alien vibes It looked like a xenomorph in the first scene and then you just get it at the end

Which I was fine with I thought it was cool when it comes out at the end gnawing on the fucking Helicopter like it's a leg of meat or something. I thought that was dope the big arms and everything but like the mutated dinosaurs to me were a much like smaller part of the movie than I thought they would be. I thought the entire, I thought every dinosaur we're seeing is fucked up and arms and eyes growing where they shouldn't be. So that was, that was the question I had for you guys. Like hubs, was that how they were promoting this was this is the freak of the freak land of dinosaurs because I thought everything was Gonna be free so then I'm like wait these guys look pretty normal for the most

Yeah, maybe some longer floaty tails or something on the the brontosaurus is but like yeah like Everything had like a little bit of a mutation to it like the t-rex had like tiger stripes Yeah, that was cool cool looking the spinosaurus is were pretty on point Mosas or I think that's just the mosas or that has been in that's supposed to be the one from the yeah like I don't know but like you they were walking the line weirdly right of referencing the trilogy the Jurassic World trilogy they were they were you there's reason to believe since he got out but that's just the mosas or yeah like humming around and I really like how like since he is like insertion into the into the franchise like they've used them and this is probably the best they have have used them.

They have like the eye looking at scott Johansson and she's hanging off. Yeah, that'll that all that stuff was great. I will push back at one thing. I hated the Raptor. Oh, you like it. So one, you get the normal Raptors for the one scene where the boyfriend's taking a piss and I'm like, holy shit, this is so sick.

Like they're just sneaking up on him and boom, they're just out of the fucking movie. I was like, that's all we get of normal Raptors is because they wanna show that these new Raptors are cool. And then the gas station scene where you really get them, it's just a combination of the first and second movie with the rest and it yeah How you just like there's no creativity there like at least no I agree with that never see you know that that's So you're seeing you even get to see like the pointer?

Raptor claw thing which is literally from the first movie and then obviously they're in like some sort It's not a kitchen, but they're in like a snack room or whatever and then and they already did that in the the second Jurassic world with him getting in the little girl's room with the fucking finger like They got a stopped. I liked the design of them. I didn't love how they were utilized I would agree with you there because it's like I almost felt the same way about the the Brontosaurus or like the discovery scene where they try to give you that Oh my god, and it's like alright Jonathan Bailey I thought was the best person in the movie where it's like he had that like oh my god

But it just felt like they were trying to replicate it a little bit too much to me Where it was also like they're fucked up looking and he's seen dinosaurs before I know he hasn't seen him in the wild But it's not the same level of oh my god And we're also stabbing it with a fucking needle right away and getting some blood out of it so it was like the scene was like it looked good but it felt like hollow which a lot of i feel like was like the whole movie i i think with and what you guys kind of said with how good it was and how good it could have been i think they they said listen we're gonna do with this formula it's gonna have like a 6.54 which we're gonna hit which they did it's not gonna be able to hit that 8.5 ceiling which we were hoping for but it's not gonna hit the And I think now they're like now we can make another one and maybe we take a couple more chances And we're gonna make a billion dollars anyway because this franchise is fucking bulletproof I will say this about the Raptor scene. I

liked that they swerve though because I was like up they're gonna hunt and then they get taken out and then you're So yeah, oh, yeah nature is a fucked up place Especially if you're a dinosaur and let's be honest the Raptors It's like that really nice third down running back you have. Try to put him in first and second, just can't do it. He's not a franchise player. Raptors are not franchise dinosaurs. Come on. They are. You think the fucking pterodactyl would take out the T-Rex? I don't think so. They're like, they're like running backs. Like they only got like a couple seasons in them, but they're the fucking difference maker. Scatterback. It's Darren Sprouls, great player.

Not the same, just not the same. Apples and oranges to the T-Rex. Also, you built a franchise around the, Jurassic Park still has the T-Rex fucking bone. Because he is a fucking great. I mean, that's a good logo. You can't change that logo ever. Oh, wait, that was it.

He came up at the beginning. That's a gripe I had. What's up with the world being bored of dinosaurs 30 years back from when we bring them back? The fuck he's up. We too. I went to the zoo last summer to see some birds and like leopards thought they were awesome. We're all of a sudden bored of dinosaurs. Fuck off. That would have been done. Come on. That would have never, we brought those suckers back. We would never be tired of them. Never get out of here with that. So I was wondering how they're gonna handle

the whole dinosaurs have taken over the world, it's an invasion thing. And they just had to do that. And I'm like, we're just gonna have to swallow the medicine with that one. You know, like I felt there was no other way around it, but I had the same point. And listen, of the paddle here,

Hubs is the last guy who'd be so, you know, tired of dinosaurs. You would probably have a pet dinosaur right now instead of a dog. I would have went to Jurassic World. I just would have gone. I would absolutely went there. I would have been next to Jimmy Buffett with Margaritaville. Yeah, as they're running out of that place. No question about it. I would have taken the one in New York was cool. I was kind of like, oh, that could be something to explore. But like we just got the quick shot of like it was causing traffic. Yeah. I was kind of like, oh, that could be something to explore. But like, we just got the quick shot of like, it was causing traffic. Yeah, I was kind of like, that's kind of kind of funny. That's another thing. Like the first 30 minutes of this movie are

terrible. Like nothing. Yeah, it's trauma dumping. Other than the intro, the intro is cool with the with the weird fucking thing getting out of captivity, the dereg. Sure. And then yeah, the stuff about dinosaurs being everyone's tired of them already. I was like kind of rolling my eyes out a little bit. Then you get the comically evil pharmaceutical guy, where like my first note was, Oh boy, I wonder if the pharmaceutical company willing to pay any number possible to get what they want will wind up being good or bad. And then he brings up Scarlett Johansson's like dead mom. He's like, the less people know about this, the better.

And he tells the most knowledgeable paleontologist in the world. He's like, if you don't come with us, you're just a fucking guy that goes to the zoo, brother. Like everything about him was so over the top, comically evil. I at least appreciated that they weren't, it wasn't like a big twist in the end, like pretty much the whole movie. Jonathan Bailey's like, hey, we're not gonna fucking give this guy the cure, right?

Like we're just gonna go get it and disperse it and be the good people. But let's do away with that as well in the Jurassic Park franchise. Like we don't really need the evil corporation actually has ulterior motives. And I know that's not a hot take. Ken Jack said the same thing.

A bunch of people are saying the same thing. It's just, I'm shocked they went right back to that. Well, also Scar Joe Charger changes her mind in point two seconds. She's like, I'm actually not. Yeah, I'm absolutely not going to. She's like, all right, money. Okay, no problem. I'm there. You know, and it's also very similar. What she is. I know that they make a point of it being unclear where they're like a mercenary. She's like it's security or whatever. And

she's like, so a mercenary. I still don't really know what the fuck Scar Joe was after that movie. I didn't even think she was that good in this movie. Like, like you said, Jonathan Bailey and Marisha Ali to me stood above everybody else. They were so good. And Bailey probably was mine, but like, yeah, she's like

for the being the lead and like the face, like, I really don't think she like took over the movie No, Jonathan Bailey stole it. I mean he was so good. I never thought oh, that's black widow, right? Like I she should be fucking people up and your black widow brain will be like, oh, yeah, let's let's go black widow Hey, you're just thinking she's crushing. She kind of was she just blended in like you said Um, I will say this about Jurassic Park. It does evolve a little dinosaur lingo there. It does evolve with the times though, because the first one the lawyers were the bad guys. Now health insurance are the bad guys. To be honest, that kind of does chart out. I feel like our boy Luigi in jail right now. He's like, I told you guys, I'm not that fucking man of a person. Someone's gotta get the plot details to Luigi. Send them in, yeah, and a note.

Someone's someone's got to get the plot details to Luigi send them in. Yeah And then like a lot of people are saying where do they go from here did they corner the franchise in With the dinosaurs are now all at the equator They can't survive in the normal climates and you know the heart disease or whatever Where can they go? A lot of people are saying they want it to go in an apocalyptic direction, which I think could be cool and unique. Like I didn't think about that myself before it was suggested on Twitter by a bunch of people. But now that I'm seeing that I'm like, yeah, maybe that's how you change things up because

you can't go with like, we're weaponizing them again. We're making them warriors. We're not putting them back in a park. I don't think the public interest is waned Do you guys have any ideas? Where do they go from here? I actually was going to ask you guys this exact question because I Don't watch the mission impossible franchises. I don't watch the fast and the furious franchises Uh, even like the john wick I kind of go like, but those are much more established.

And I do feel like those have had highs and lows and found ways to stay relevant with advancing the story. And I don't know where this goes from here. The thing is those didn't hit the rock bottom that Jurassic, I almost like, I'm like at some point, I'm happy they went from Jurassic Park to Jurassic World because it's like stop tarnishing the name of the original. Yeah.

But I kind of, I was going to ask you, like I'd love to hear what helps us to think, like what do you think they could do from here that as you like the dino guy would be like, isn't, you know, spitting in the face of everyone who's, you know, they care about dinosaurs again. Maybe the heart disease, everyone with heart disease takes the drug, they become a dinosaur.

Makes them appreciate it. Yeah, makes them appreciate it. So I saw something was like, I'm going to do this again. Maybe the heart disease. Everyone with heart disease takes the drug. They become a makes them appreciate it. Yeah. So, I saw something was like, you can do something where like a documentary team is like sneaking onto that island and then you just make it a survival, a survival thing. True. Where and please god don't involve children anymore. I just don't want to see them anymore but like that would be that would and then you're not going to make it rated R because every single one of these are PG 13 but I don't know this this iteration. Yeah, people were saying it was great.

Make it so like like there's been so many. I said it before, but like there's been so many very good deaths, but throughout the franchise. And I thought there was only one here to make it so like focus on every single one being like memorable, like always. Oh, my God moments. Yeah. Yeah. Like I always remember like Yadeski getting ripped apart by the by the Raptors and JP3 obviously the the the toilet scene and one the guy getting I even think the the assistant in world getting picked up and dropped a bunch. Yeah funny.

I have a fun fact about that. She asked to be killed like in a special way. So like as like an honor, right? Like, yeah. So like people, people always go back to me like that's the most unnecessary death of all time. I feel like it goes viral with like 200k likes like once a year. I should probably do it one year. And people, you know, the what people don't realize is that wasn't unnecessary. She actually wanted to die that way. Like she thought it was a cool way. That rocks. And she's 100% right. It's one of the most memorable moments of the entire movie. Dude, awesome. And then in the second one, the guy gets ripped, absolutely ripped to shreds. He's trying to save the trailer from falling off. Which I'm pretty sure, Bob, you said that actor was asked to be in this one and they didn't know he died. Oh, I think, I think yes. Yeah. Like they reached

out to him was like, do you want to return? And I think he wrote back like my character died. What are you talking about? And they were like, oh yeah, we forgot. I thought you meant the actor died. I'm like, you're not going to get a text message back. No. What was his name? I got Eddie Carr, Eddie Carr, right. Right. Eddie Carr. Yeah. There's the characters name. But anyways, memorable moments like that. Like that's, that's what's what I think about you know most of the time I don't care like mostly that they get saved at the end because obviously some of them have to live but like focus on memorable deaths and a lot of these deaths in this one happened kind of off screen which I didn't love yeah the girl on the beach dragged away dragged away I guess the the dude from Deadpool who I mentioned you can kind of see him

He gets bitten and taken off into sea But there were some of them that just like you don't get like you don't get like a blood splatter like anything like that Which I guess people will will argue. It's still a family franchise at the end of the day But like look at the original like we got we got a little bit of gruesomeness in in this franchise That any guy is ripped apart by two T. Rex's he spit roasted by T. Rex's but like look at the original. Like we got a little bit of gruesomeness in this franchise. That Eddie guy is ripped apart by two T-Rexes. He's spit roasted by two T-Rexes and that's PG-13. So we can get in it.

And then, like I said, Udeski, they snap his neck. The Raptor snaps his neck in JP3 and that happens after he gets clawed in the spine and paralyzed. So like, don't tell me we can't have cool deaths. And then obviously we just mentioned Jurassic World 1. So I would just focus on that. I don't really know though, because what else you can do,

can you do the apocalyptic if like they're all in one spot? Like how are they gonna retake over the wall? I don't know. I was thinking that, like how do they- That would have to be a reboot. That to me, you have to reboot the whole franchise if you're gonna do apocalyptic. Yeah, the climate slowly goes back.

I don't know what if there's like a squid games like an island where they have them and these people have to like survive or you said you do a time piece you do a nineties movie. The style to plays I could tell you right. Yeah. And speaking of which no matter what you thought going into this movie no no matter what you thought going out of this movie, when those John Williams scores play. Oh my god. It is 10 out of 10. Every time. And you're just like, I just happy to be like, you fucking see that trailer brother that they're doing it this time. They got it. Yeah. The moment it hits the first time it hits in this one is right after like we get through Scar Joe and and Bailey being convinced to doing it.

Like the moment he's like sitting there, he's he's chewing on his thing. And then also, yeah, it's a helicopter zooming and we get him like, all right. Movie started. We're good. You're in. I have before this doesn't matter. now we're on the island they're blasting john williams we're good to go strap in i got two hours here tomorrow my popcorn now and that's when that's that's all i need and guess what folks that's why they make a billion dollars because that's all the fucking they need john williams dinosaurs death and exotic uh islands george ruca's told us 50 years ago almost just give us a text

crawl dinosaurs nobody cares about them anymore blah blah blah scarlet Johansson's a fucking like even put scarlet Johansson don't put a character name is a mercenary even though it doesn't feel like it here are some dinosaurs right on the island yeah another yeah we're ready Yeah. Oh no, I was here Maybe. But it's not memorable. Did you guys like this better than the first Jurassic World? Because I think I liked the first Jurassic World better than this if I'm being honest. I, I like Jurassic World one better than this. Two and three though, this is above that. Yeah. Totally. One, four, and then I don't think I even saw three. So one.

Well, I didn't see three. I was gonna put it above two, but the way hubs talked about three, I don't think I could even do that blind. I'll just say, I never saw the full three. I saw big portions of three. And that's a good sign that it was terrible though, right?

Was that bad? You know, like, Oh, it was bad. Oh, it was bad. The first Jurassic world is good because we're not so smothered with the mutant dinosaur thing yet. So Indoraptor is the first time we're seeing that.

Like, that's kind of cool. The problem is they just kept doing it like the movies after that. But no, the Indoraptor and Chris Pratt and I guess Alice Howard's great in that movie. The scene where she fucking hits the flare and the T-Rex from the OG comes out. Like, I remember opening day in theaters, people going nuts for that. And is it silly that she outruns the T-Rex in her high heels after that? Yeah, a little bit silly after fucking chase down a Jeep in the first one, but it's still a great

scene. What's sillier that or Chris Pratt doing the somersault out of the T-Rex cage in the second morning where he just somersaults as the T-Rex is very much awake and like trying to chomp, he just somersaults away. I don't the second one. Yeah. Where he just somersaults as he as the T-Rex is very much awake and like trying to chomp. He just somersaults away. I don't think so but no. Yeah. The star

escaping that is insane and then the Moser comes to the rescue at the end. It was like kind of the first time we're seeing him. Uh that was I guess that's earlier in the early in the movie. He does like his little um his sea world thing

but um oh no overall I don't I don't it. Jurassic World is very watchable to me. I agree. Yeah, I think it's numbered. I have to I didn't watch the second or third Jurassic Park. I remember watching the years. I think it might be my number two Jurassic movie. Is that it is like I haven't seen two and three in so many years as well. But I'm not a huge fan of two and three personally. So like it might be my second favorite to three make sense to I will push back on.

I like to also the T-Rex coming to California and as it's San Diego. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know that that very end. I owe it a real neighborhood. That's also that's that's the very end of the two bedroom like the kid looks. Yeah. Okay. I kind of remember he he his parents think he's having a fucking nightmare and then all of a sudden yeah he kills the dog after drinks from the

pool no it's it's it but like hey guess what that took a chance that's a chance in a movie which like not many of these movies do anymore you also have a great death guys running down the street and he thinks he runs into the side of a store and then he just gets fucking chopped by the t-rex but earlier in that movie though there's a great raptor scene in the in the high grass that's where they nail the rap that's an all-time raptor scene is is in the second one so I won't I won't go as that far but you can definitely Jurassic World over JP3 I'll definitely give you that's that's that's holy fair. It's crazy that three was a Spielberg movie to be honest Spielberg's my fucking guy I'll defend Spielberg to the death, but you watch that movie

And you're like ooh what what happened like you lost a little bit of that you lost a lot of that charm from the first one and it it feels more like a Like a straight to VHS sequel than it does a theatrical sequel in my mind I do think it gets too much shit, but it's definitely like a step down from like one to an interesting world art. But like, it's still way better than the previous two that just happened. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's good. Raptors. He's at you get the introduction of the Spinosaurus. Yeah, I mean, it's cool in that. He's got a good roar in that. It's a it's a different despite the source in this one felt smaller. That one's like a big spinal.

And then, yeah, he, that's a bad one. If you like T-Rex's not a good one for that. Cause he kills the T breaks the T-Rex's neck, like real quick to be like on the new daddy here. That's right. I forgot to be, I was fucked up. I have to say, I read the book for the lost world. Like I, I remember being hyped for it. And I think I liked it.

I don't think anything's going to touch the original, but the original is so good. We keep coming back. We're gonna keep coming back. Oh, yeah Honestly talking about this movie makes me want to go rewatch the original right now Like the original is so fucking perfect another movie where I would say like if anyone and I was gonna say if anyone's listening to This hasn't seen it. You're not 43 minutes into a fucking Jurassic World sequel podcast You haven't seen the original. But just go rewatch the first one and be like, God damn that that is a perfect movie starts finish every single scene. Every single moment. It's the best. It's and like Spielberg has like three movies like that. Like Jaws is like that Raiders

of the Lost Ark is like that. ET is like that fucking saving private Ryan like he's he's just he's insane. That's amazing. they made that 93 It's amazing 25. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah As the old head here, I remember 93 people were like how the fuck did they make that? Now how the fuck did they make that? I know it's almost more impressive looking back where it's like We've made what six of these now seven of these and it's we're still chasing that high we're still chasing the dragon that

the first one gave us and the greatest thing they gave the world which is now extinct unfortunately supersized meal of McDonald's everyone forgets that was started yeah true because of Jurassic yeah franchise so that's a good transition oh for, for sure. I think top 25. Yeah. I mean, Hobbs, it's like top 25 dinosaur. It's like every top 25 is all dinosaurs and Godzilla. It's high up for me. It's top 10. It's top 10. You guys remember how it's top 10?

Yeah. OK, that's fair. It's one of those movies. Because I remember when Big Cat Dave and Kevin used to always argue, remember it was Hook, top Top 50 and then Dave went on a whole thing. And I feel like Jurassic Park is a better, more well done, and even critically acclaimed version of Hook where it's like, I think it's a bet, obviously it's better in every single respect, but I do think some people would be a little hesitant if they're movie snobs

and be like Jurassic Park, but it's a fucking, it changed the world we live in. Oh yeah. It's a good time for you to bring up the Super Size Me meal, but it's a fucking it changed the world. We live in. Oh, yeah. It's a good, good time for you to bring up the Super Size Me meal, because it's time for our fast food review of Jurassic Park. Clem, would you like to start? Jurassic World. Jurassic World. Sorry. Yeah, not Jurassic Park. Jurassic.

OK. You know, the best fast food item you could think of. So I've remixed this one. Usually we do a food item. This is how I'm comparing it. So this movie, I think weixed this one. Usually we do a food item. This is how I'm comparing it. So this movie, I think we talked about it. It was okay. Pretty good, fine. I'm scared to use the G scale here,

but it was good. It brings back a lot of those nostalgic vibes. It's an old franchise brought back. I was excited for it because of the old stuff. It hit, there's definitely some things missing. I think all of our criticisms are fair. And about, I think it was a year, maybe two years ago, McDonald's brought back,

I think they were called the Boo Baskets, the Halloween things, you remember that? Yeah. And I'll tell you, when they brought those back, us 90s kids were like, holy shit. And I remember getting them with the kids. We got them happy meals. And then we had them.

And I remember being like, ah, this plastic is kind of cheaper than I remember. And it's like, I don't think I'm just going to buy my kids another pail. Like, I'm not going to go out on these. But it's like, it still hits the nostalgia vibes. We still have them. We put them out on Halloween, decorate the house.

And I'm sure, like, if I probably did the night, it was a prize stuff too. But sometimes stuff back in the day was made better so I'm like I imagine if I got the old boo baskets and the new boo baskets the old ones are better just like the old Jurassic Park's better than this one but this still fucking just like scratches that nostalgia kits which is all I can ask for and in the end of the day you're just happy to have them in your life so the boo the boo baskets or whatever they're called. I also picked a returning item. I picked the KFC double down

Which debuted a long time ago this monstrous sandwich, you know chicken as the bread and then it went away for a long time And then it came back. I had a lot of nostalgia I was like we gotta get that fucking doubled down and I ate it and it was good I'm not gonna lie. It was good But I could tell pretty much immediately that I was gonna pay for it I was like it was good. I'm not gonna lie. It was good, but I could tell pretty much immediately that I was gonna pay for it I was like it was good, but I don't know if it was good for me and that's kind of how I felt about this where I was like I liked it, but I don't know if this direction of making a safe movie and

Getting a billion dollars instantly for it. It's gonna be good in the long term of the franchise I hope like we're saying maybe the next one they start to take chances. They say alright, we made our fucking money, we got back on track. Now let's let's take a couple chances. Let's get a couple crazy deaths back in the franchise. But I fear that it's just gonna I'm gonna be regretting it later. And I'm gonna be like, oh no, they're just making safe movies again. Hubs your fast food review. I also went like the nostalgia route. It's I was thinking about yesterday and also just hit me. It's the Burger King snack wrap. It's they they tried to recreate what McDonald's and Wendy's had and obviously it's very timely with the McDonald's snack wrap coming back. Can't wait to try that but Burger King snack wrap is not the greatest thing you've ever had but it's also not terrible.

Like I've gotten it probably too many too many times, but I've I enjoy them like the honey mustard burger king snack wrap is solid. Like it gets the job done for lunch. I probably wouldn't like scream for the mountaintops or like tweet about it or whatever. They're like, hey, you gotta have this, but it does the job and it's definitely not bad. So I kind of how I view this movie and it's not a ball. No, we're right there. Hubs is a ball. That was instant ball. Now, because I was going to text Hubs. You texted him first, like, where do we do fast food reviews? And I was just thinking in my mind, like, how fucking stupid does that sound out of context when we're like, no, I like to compare it to fast food. OK, good. I like it.

I like it. We ordered the market on the number for game with the ball. He's got the ball scale. So it's like, yeah, although we do only IP, never forget. We retained the IP of the ball scale. Yes, that's true. By the way, it was boo buckets. I don't want people to think I'm not a ball knower. I just couldn't remember off the top of my head. Boo bucket is the McDonald's thing. All right. There we go. That was the Jurassic World Rebirth edition of My Mom's Basement Hubs. Thank you for joining us, lending your dino expertise with us, Jurassic expertise. And we will be back on Friday for a Superman review.

But before then, look out for all the interviews I mentioned at the start of the pod. We'll talk to you then.