My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 440 - SUPERMAN REVIEW

Episode Date: July 11, 2025

Robbie and Clem FINALLY break down James Gunn's 'Superman' after years of hype and waiting! Did they enjoy it? Was it the kickstart to this new universe that DC needed?! Find out in this podcast! We're talking Clark and Lois, Nicholas Hoult's Lex Luthor, surprises, criticisms, and more! Gametime: Download the Gametime app today and use code MMB for $20 off your first purchase New Amsterdam Vodka: Find your wins with New Amsterdam Vodka ****************************************   My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike!   Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement and a very special Superman edition of My Mom's Basement. It is Robbie Fox and Clem here to break down James Gunn's first real entry into the DCU. It's obviously peacemaker creature commandos, but this feels like the first starting point of this current era of DC. It's been a long, long journey to get here. Going all the way back to him getting fired from Marvel, him doing Suicide Squad, him getting hired as DC president. It's finally here. People are seeing Superman. We've seen it. And I got to be honest without getting into any spoilers right off

the bat. Clem, I loved it. I told you I loved it. What did you think? You wrote, uh, I loved it lol. Cause I think you even know. Cause I was like, yeah, you're not going to be shocked by this reaction Clem. I knew you wouldn't be stunned. You're either going to love it or you're going to be heartbroken that you didn't love it. That's kind of, I think where we have the Robbie Fox. There you are, the true Rotten Tomato. It's either thumbs up or thumbs down. It's usually two thumbs up or two thumbs down. I said I liked it because I think I am on, we'll do the L scale now. You're a love guy for this one for me. It was a like. It was good. I

think we'll get into the good and we'll get into the I guess I don't know bad is the right word for it. But oh yeah, there's there's criticisms. I don't think it's a flawless movie. I've got I've got criticisms for sure. But none of them I felt are like grand enough criticisms that it really did detracted from my enjoyment of the movie. Yeah, for sure. I think I'm like, how do I say this the right way? I think it's a better version, but has the same kind of good and bad sides as or it struggles with the same stuff as the Jurassic Park movie we just reviewed. I think interesting.

I think it's a better version of that. But I think it's like they they hit it. They they had. Maybe they could have made a fucking nine out of 10, 10 out of 10 movie. And I also think they could have made like a four out of 10 movie. And I think, I don't want to say, I don't play it safe is the right thing, but I think what they did, they hit it and everyone's happy. They're leaving the theater and they're ready for more, just like Jurassic Park. I do think this is better in every aspect. I'm a better same Cut I have the same thoughts about it in terms of like could be better could be worse and man I'm like I am much happier with this when it's all said and done don't get me wrong But I kind of had the same thoughts in my head as I was out there

I did think that this played it way less safe than Jurassic Park in terms of it felt pretty like Out there and weird for a Superman movie. I know we were talking about how is this going to feel in terms of like it's a James Gunn movie without any signature needle drops and he can't really rely on like the vulgar humor like he normally does or the team up although there is like aspects of team up in Superman obviously. But I thought that it felt still to me like a James Gunn movie, when they would do pocket universe stuff, I was like, okay, this is out there in sci-fi enough and weird enough where I'm like, I could tell that James Gunn put his stamp on

Superman. So I thought that was like one of the one of the big pros I would give the movie and the biggest pros. I hope you agree. David Corn sweat as Superman Clark Kent, Nicholas Holt as Lex Luthor and Rachel Brosnahan as Lois Lane. The three of them carry the movie in a way that has me like begging for more of them immediately. Like I kind of came out of the movie being like, damn, I wish we got a little bit more Lois Lane. And then the more I was thinking about it, I was like, I wish we got a little bit more Lex Luthor. And I was like, I wish we got a little bit more Lex Luthor. And I was like, I wish we got a little more Superman, Clark Kent. I was like, we actually got a ton of all three of those. I think I just like them so much. I want a sequel

already. You know, it's kind of crazy. I actually wanted more of the Daily Planet. Yeah, the Daily Planet was great. Yeah, Jimmy Olsen. I loved the take on. Should we get into spoilers? I mean, we're only five minutes into the podcast, but it's hard to avoid. What are you firing this up for if you're not looking for spoilers? Guys, go see the movie. Everyone's going to see it in this opening weekend, I feel anyway. It's Superman. Like, if you're listening to My Mom's Basement, how can you not go see Superman? You know, it's the first fucking Superman movie we've got. Just solo Superman since Man of Steel in 2012. It's been a long time. So, all right, spoiler warning, spoiler warning,

not even that this is gonna be a big spoiler, but Jimmy Olsen being like this nerd that hot girls love or this specific Eve Tessmacher, that was so funny to me and it played so well in our theater. It was getting great laughs. And this is a great theater movie. Like our theater was fucking clapping at the end. Like it reminded me of going to see Summer Blockbusters when I was a kid.

And like this movie made me feel like I was a kid. It felt like the animated series to me. And I know you probably haven't watched much of the 90s Superman animated series. It was like kind of coincided with the Batman animated series. It's all on Macs. And I watched a few episodes last night. I texted you. I was so fired up that I was like, let me fire up the animated series and fall asleep to it like I'm fucking

seven years old again and this felt like that Superman to me like it felt like the Superman that I've had in my head since I was a little kid that I almost feel like I've never really seen on the big screen Christopher Reeve obviously like embodies that big screen Superman but the Superman in the comics that gets a little weird and they get into the alien stuff and the Krypton stuff. Like it felt the most like Superman I've ever seen in on the big screen at least. I think we got what we were hoping for in terms of again, your plane analogy. This one is a different one. The plane has now taken off and we're getting up to cruising

altitude and we're not really hitting any bumps and it's like, all right, feels like this is we've had a few DC projects with James Gunn beforehand but this is the big this is the big dog right here right and it was also like before the plane took off they were like there's going to be a quick delay like there's an engineering problem and everyone on the plane starts looking at each other like, oh, here we go again. We don't like this down to that. Like we didn't know if the plane was going to take off. We were we were praying. We were like, as long as we take off, then we could figure things out. But we just got to take off the landing gear or the takeoff gear, the wheels, we got to make sure we can get off the ground. Because this was the it was like some of the highest

stakes a movie has ever had. People were saying if this was like a failure failure if people hated this and the box office bombed like WB might not exist especially with the amount they put into the fucking marketing and it seems like DC and Marvel are going head to head with who can spend more on marketing for their July movie fantastic for renaming streets in New York City this week. Oh, did they? They gave the next treatment? That's not good. Jack Kirby way they fucking did. Yeah. Jeez. Oh, I didn't, I didn't need to hear that. Yeah. I almost compare it to, um, the Superman franchise. It's like flying out of Newark and this is definitely a localized take here,

but like anyone that's, I, I, even if I didn't live in the air, I know Newark, Newark has had like fucked up tech for years and the jobs are hard to get. And like you're always delayed. And like, there's like always these things like, oh, like, it just like the screens blacked out for like five minutes and no one could land or take off. It's scary. And let's be honest, Superman has had a tough run, other than a very loud minority that is saying that those were the greatest movies but even before that man is stealing all the stuff we just couldn't get the big blue and white guy and the blue and uh red guy in the sky and we got him in the sky he's flying he's flying good he's flying true and even the stuff with James Gunn that I was scared

would become a con where it's a little too cutesy, a little too James Gunny where he's pulling those Guardians of the Galaxy one liners and it's like, it's not feeling like Superman. None of that really happened. So it's like, you still had good music in there, right? He still had some cool action scenes. He still had some jokes, but it wasn't, it does feel like Superman is more of a, it's like it's a holy property compared to like especially the Guardians. It's even wholly compared to like an Iron Man or anyone like that so it's like there's only so much of these franchises that you don't want them to tarnish and I'd say DC obviously as Batman and Superman in there and

We're in the air Bob. We're in the air. Trust the gun light is on in the air. We're in the air. Trust the gun. Light is on. We're in the air. Look up. Yeah. Did you see all the James Gunn hashtags? The fucking people trying to do like, hashtag the gun is jammed. Hashtag the gun is cocked. Hashtag. People were trying to

like take James Gunn down like the Snyder fans trying to take him down with the hashtags and then James Gunn fans would just like double down on the ridiculous hashtags and make even crazier ones. There's been very funny discourse this week. I have our hashtag for the episode. We're gonna let everyone know. Oh, let's get it early. Yeah. Tweet it out now. Hashtag gun harem. We're the gun harem.

We're riding the secret harem right here in the basement. Yeah. Oh, and the basement makes that sound a little little creepier. Yeah. That sounds very creepy. It sounds real creepy. Um, all right, before we get into, I have so many notes on things that I loved in the movie and also criticisms I had for it. Before we get into that, let's shout out one of our sponsors here. That is game time. We absolutely love game time. We love getting out to baseball games in the summer. I just got to go to Fenway with Jared. It was so much fun. Um, but going to games last minute, there's something gives you an extra rush. You make a quick decision.

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Make a profit. Yeah, you're probably right about that. Yeah, shout out Game Time. All right, let's get into some of the nitty gritty of the movie, some of the notes I made where I was like, oh shit, I love that. And then like I said, some of the criticisms I had right off the bat, I love the opening crawl. How about this? We just did the Jurassic Park podcast with hubs and you said,

just give us a quick opening crawl. And I was like, Holy shit, they were listening to Clem. Also, I don't know if I'm looking into this way too nerdy. There was like a three theme 300 years ago, 30 years ago. Is that one day going to build to like DC Trinity? Are they going to build to like DC's Trinity or are they going to pay that off with a Batman Superman Wonder Woman crawl that hits us again with and then they were three or you know something like that. I like how that's where your mind went the super nerd mind went to that I said three

is kind of like new beginnings one two three let's go one two three let's go true it's gonna also be one two. You're out in a strikeout. Nonetheless, I liked how it kept going three centuries and it kept getting smaller and smaller and smaller and then three minutes ago I think is where it ended. Yeah. And there were five of them. That's all we needed. The ending one was was fucking like good too. Three minutes ago, Superman lost his first fight was like oh shit we're right in the mix. Yep, and then you realize you're in the snow and you're like, okay, so this was like a part of the trailers, right?

And you're like, they gave us this right off the jump here. So I am very happy that we were not, we didn't have to sit through, we kind of knew it wasn't gonna, I think James Gunn said it himself, whole origin story and all that. I think that did more than enough. If you're going to the movie,

80% chance you know all the Superman back story or at least the basics here. Like, AJ may not know some of this stuff. He's becoming a diehard DC guy because it's the Fortnite theme right now, but I don't think he knows a ton about Superman, so some of that stuff he might have to have explained. But listen, man, he is the dude. And

the fact that you have to sit all through that. I think it that made me happy. Just in general, that was one of my notes is not having to do a whole full blown reboot or whatever. The more of those give me more of those. And honestly, I thought Man of Steel crushed the origin. Like I think that's one of the strongest parts of Man of Steel and to that So that was like not that long ago. They did it right So I don't know if you would have to change a lot I liked the way they open here put us right in the mix I got to see it with fights and this was the first Superman anything he's ever seen He's like I've never seen a Superman movie or anything like that really knew I asked right before is like, you know

Like the broad strokes right like, you know, this fucking guy's an alien. He was like, yeah. Yeah, I know that But he did have a funny take, like right after the movie, he texted me and was like, I thought the entire movie, the dog was named crypto, as in like crypto currency, and just put it together that it's like crypto as in Krypton. And I was like, Yeah, dude, he was like, I was so mad that I was there was like, what a stupid name for a dog the whole movie. And then now I get it. Like, that's a very funny rookie thing to say.

It's funny because as someone that knows all the Krypton stuff, I like a couple of days ago said, man, I hate that that dog is named after the, that dog can also be seen as being named after cryptocurrency because I just hate the crypto bros on my timeline. So I came to him from a different angle than fights. And we both agree on that. Love crypto stuff. And how about crypto drags them back to the fortress of solitude. Two seconds into the movie we see Bradley Cooper as Jor-El. How did they keep that under wraps? I was like, did I know this? Isn't that Bradley Cooper? Is that Dave Portnoy on the screen? I have so many questions going on through my head. And yeah, that was a great secret

and to the point where I was like, maybe that's not Bradley head. And yeah, that was a great secret. To the point where I was like, maybe that's not Bradley Cooper. That's what I was thinking. It was such a welcome scene. My mind was kind of blown and then I was like, I guess it makes sense with Rocket and he's obviously worked with James Gunn before,

but the fact that they kept that under wraps, I was like, holy shit, that's pretty impressive. And then one of the robots, one of the Superman robots was Mantis from Guardians. So that was cool too. Alan Tudyk is the voice of four, who is K2SO who we absolutely love. And I thought that back and forth in the beginning

was so funny. They're like, we do not appreciate thank you or whatever. We cannot appreciate it. And when he's talking about Krypton, he's like, we do not give a damn if it lives or dies. We do not care at all. He was a great, I love the Superman robots. It was a cool addition.

Another thing that we didn't really get in other Superman interpretations where they're like funny. I think Robot humor in this DC could be really good with James Gunn when he's in charge Yeah, cuz that's some that is some of the best stuff in Star Wars, right? And yeah Marvel has a little bit of it too But I think they can definitely thrive because uh, GI robot or whatever. He was awesome, right? So then the different robots have different personalities and apparently this one is named Gary. So he said, I thought that was great at the end. Yeah. When he's just like, yeah, so is Gary. And then he's like, all right, Gary. Also

we're, this is skipping ahead, obviously, but talking about Jor-El, the Jor-El message twist, I thought was brilliant. I was watching the Superman animated series premiere last night and kind of thinking in my mind, I wonder if they've ever done a Superman story where Jor-El was wrong. Like he told everyone Krypton's about to explode.

He fucking sends Zod to the Phantom Zone. And then it was like, they sent Superman on his way. And he wasn't wrong. He's still out there somewhere. And you could do, I don't know, an invincible thing like Superman and fucking his dad fight or something. I was thinking that in my head, and then they do something that's different. But the twist being like the message was a little bit sinister, then being like, you could fucking take all the lives you need, I thought was like smart, a

different twist, it kind of made sense in the context of like the Kryptonians sending their baby here. Like they don't really care about the humans. They care about their baby. So I thought that was cool and a cool way of turning the world on Superman that we also haven't seen before. Yeah, I like uh look let's be honest humans like they're probably right. Everything they said was true and that just made the humans even angrier also it was and again this didn't take me out of the movie and i know you had to do it the way they did it motherfuckers turn on superman quick there quick agree a little didn't make me out but it was it was like they were halfway through that fucking instagram video and throwing cans at his head it's's like come on man. Yeah, Gaspin.

I'm sorry people were looking at him disappointed. I'm like you didn't even see the video yet. You don't have a phone in your hand. What do you mean? This guy is saving lives for years and years. Didn't you see all the threes? All the stuff he's done and all these threes. I guess it was three years ago is when he arrived right? That's what he said. So he's been doing this shit for three years and he's a fucking like boy scout Essentially a flying boy scout and there's this one thing in the era of fake news where they're gonna say up This is true. And even if it is true now It does like I always kind of like having it where these everyone's so pure a heart or whatever But hey, I'm fine with that twist keep it going. We can go off a little more dust

You know from a certain point of view, and this was done differently, or they meant something different, or fuck it. They wanted him to have harems. Harem, huge! That was so funny. Huge win for the word harem. I guarantee, I'm gonna look up the Google Trans on Monday and be like, how much was harems over the weekend?

I can't wait to see what it was. The harem, like running choc was great too. Huge laughs in our theater. Yeah, people were loving that the whole time. They turned on him so quick, and I thought that it kind of blends into a criticism that I keep seeing pop up, that the movie was a little bit overstuffed.

And I think that's pretty valid criticism. I don't think it was too overstuffed. I think it's the kind of thing that on a rewatch sort of helps, like it moves so quick scene to scene. It's like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And that makes it a fun rewatch sort of helps. Like it moves so quick scene to scene. It's like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And that makes it a fun rewatch and it'll be more like comprehensible. But the first time it does hit you almost like you just read 12 issues of a comic in a row. And I was like almost cringing because you hear that so much. Oh, comic book come to life. Like it's become such a cliche

thing to say about movies until I saw this and I was like this really did feel like it felt like if I read this as a comic book I would be like ah that's probably the thing they would cut out for a movie oh that's probably the thing they would cut out for me you can't do all the metamorpho baby stuff you wouldn't have the time for that in a movie and they fucking shoved it all in there and I'm happy they did but it's like a different vibe you know yeah and again I think this movie is so big to the whole universe obviously and It's now here and I can start pulling stuff out of it I was actually wondering if they did like a Lois Lane or the Daily Planet crew like now that max Now we call it HBO Max again. Hey, you're back

See you again. Yeah, if they end up doing a penguin version of Daily Planet with the Daily Planet crew Like that was our big enough stars and I think we're what I'm talking about. I think that's what I'm talking about. I think that's what I'm talking about. I think that's what I'm talking about. I think that's what I'm talking about. I think that's what I'm talking about. I think that's what I'm talking about. I think

that's what I'm talking about. I think that's what I'm talking about. I think that's what I'm talking about. I think that's what I'm talking about. I think easily stealable because you could do a Daily Bugle show in the MCU. Mm hmm. Yep. And that would be fucking awesome. That would be good too. It would be really good. Yeah. I would care more about that than some of the other shows they've had on Disney Plus, right? Oh yeah. And I thought the Clark Lewis dynamic, like when they're in there and they're like messing with each other, he sure gives you a lot of interviews like what the hell's going on with that? And then they go into the apartment

and they're like, he's like, that was a good one today. We were winding Jimmy up. I thought their dynamic was perfect. In a way where in their first like fight in the kitchen, when they get into the fight and the argument or whatever, I found myself being like, No, like, I just want you guys to be together. It was like a real sappy Bob came out where I was like, don't don't leave right after she says maybe this isn't gonna work. Clark, go back in there. Have this conversation. I just wanted them to be together so bad. And I think it was because their chemistry was like off the

charts. Yeah, it's like a mom and a dad, but also like your buddies too. Yeah. They're like you're age. So yeah, I'm with you on all that. I loved all the dynamics. I love Jimmy also had to look it up and bonk me if you want that girl. I called her the blonde bombshell. I was like, who is this blonde bombshell? Because I didn't know what other word to describe her. Kat Grant. I had to look it up. Yeah, so I hit up Tommy, because when we had Tommy on the podcast, and we talked about Tommy's love of Superman, I said, maybe we'll have you back on and we could talk about Superman. And he's doing stuff tonight. So unfortunately, he wasn't able to come. But I said, Can you send us a voice memo of like your

review of the movie? So he did it. And I it's it's long, I'm gonna be honest, sent me like a three minute voice memo. And then I see the preview for the next one, he sent another one and said, also the girl who played that Daily Planet Reporter with the fake blonde dot dot dot. I'm like, oh Tom We're gonna have to fucking bonk Tommy for sure At the end of the podcast. I figured we'll play his review. I thought that would be fun blonde bomb shell And then the other thing that was fucking me up with that crew

I'm like, who's that guy that guy and everyone knows that guy that I was talking about. I couldn't yeah Wendell Pierce. No. No. Oh not that guy. I was talking about. I couldn't put my finger on him. Wendell Pierce? No, no. Oh, not that guy. You know him, obviously. The wire. That's the Bunk, Bob. Okay, that's another note. I wanted more.

My whole thing for the Daily Planet show started with, I needed more of the Bunk. That's who he is in The Wire. And when you get into it, you're gonna say, Clem, I love the Bunk. We need more of the Bunk in the show. It was... I know now what you're talking about.

That's his name. He's from SNL. And I was like, that's right. I do it. I'm thinking of every stupid movie. And I'm like, he's in like commercials. I'm like, but I don't remember any commercial. He's in SNL commercials, parody commercials. Yeah, very small role in this. But funny every time he showed up, I thought. Yes. And he just says that look to him. And you're like, I know that guy from somewhere. So that whole crew, you said Jimmy as well Um, I think there was might have been one or two other people who were like kind of consistent Give me give me a jimmy, uh, and i'm talking to jimmy gung. Yeah, not jimmy olson

jimmy olson People say that's jimmy olson though in this show other than this movie out in this universe. Give it to me jimmy I'm telling you that I kind of like having the the dirty hard drop being the guy they want to give it to him. Good for Jimmy. Him having the contact name is like mutant toes. Mutant toes. So funny. Um I love the hammer of Bavaria or Baravia. I think it's

Baravia. Baravia. Baravia. That sequence in the beginning like the look of him, the way he was **** talking, the way he got out of that suit and walked in to the like uh uh Luther Corp building. I also thought that that was interesting. It's not Lex Corp. It's Luther Corp. And it gets destroyed in this. So is he going to bring it back as Lex Corp and be like, yeah, we had to rebrand like for our image publicly

or something like that. But I thought his theme was also awesome. The first few times Lex shows up on screen, this sinister ass music kicks in and the score I thought deserves so much braising. There's so many crescendos that gave me fucking chills I was bumped up a thousand times during this movie teared up even a cute couple times There was like two or three times that it really made me tear up And I think Nicholas Holt this is crazy to say because I love Gene Hackman as Lex Luthor I think he's my favorite on screen Lex. I felt the fucking jealousy and the rage like seeping through and I love the story that like he was,

it was between him and Robert Pattinson for Batman and he lost out and then it was between him and David Cornsweat for Superman and he lost out. And seeing this, I can't picture him as Superman. I gotta be honest, I think he's fucking great but like he is so Lex in this movie. And he's so like the way he was saying, oh, Superman is grooming us. And he's using all these like, kind of like modern buzzwords to fucking put Superman down the

scene in the beginning when he's saying a one a 12 g 37. Like, he calling out the moves for them to hit. I thought it was so fucking cool, so Lex and so refreshing after the stupid Jesse Eisenberg, Riddler slash Joker performance of Lex. And I love Jesse Eisenberg. I just don't know what the fuck he was thinking with that performance. So yeah, that wasn't a good one. I don't see any. He honestly played him like he was the Joker.

Gotcha. I don't know if you got this at all, but they were doing the G5 and whatever and then they're showing you the move that he's about to do. I had flashbacks to you know the very fantastic four Incredibles with syndrome where he teaches the robot knows all the moves and to do yeah how to beat him and it's still kind of like a similar type robot type look like you know the visor like yeah and even uh like lex is just

like syndrome and granted this is what lex has to do as the villain is he's monologuing and he's doing all these leaving the the fucking invincible superhero alone to be you know in a little cube or whatever and it's just all kind of where he embraced it all you know like it's turned up to 11 in the comics and usually they crank it down a little bit for the movies and James Gunn was like, leave the knobs at 11. Yep. And they say, listen, this is the universe.

It's not our universe. Superman is not in this world. He is in his world and everyone is in that world. And it's a little dopey sometimes in a fun way. Just be with it. You know what? Once Superman, we got to take everything that comes with Superman and whether you like it some people like

it some people don't I think by keeping it true you can then don't have to change anything you can yeah like Superman again so I'm very happy with that I was a big side effect of everything I also thought Lexus plan convoluted but at least there was logic to it. And it's like, stupid comic book logic that he's gonna get half of the fucking country and stuff. But it's logic. It's like, okay, we could say point A at a point B at a point C. It's not just I hate Superman down with Superman. He's like getting

governments involved and fucking like, you know, playing a little bit of a chess game to get to the conclusion he wants to get to. So I thought that was good. I also thought the fucking Peacemaker cameo rocked. The theater went nuts for that. And it was so well, like I didn't think he was going to make a cameo at all because I was like two very different universes. I know it's the same universe, but one is very vulgar HBO and one is Superman. And you could take kids to see this and they made it fucking work.

Like it made sense that he's honest a talk show being like, yeah, that guy's a fucking asshole. And I was like trying to listen to every single word he said, cause it trails off, but you can still hear, just basically pumping himself up and shitting all over Superman. And it was great. I had just the biggest grin on my face as that was going on. And I'm like, I can't wait for peacemaker, which again, yeah, product. It's gone. It's right. Yeah, it's like right, right off the bat and we get like Hawke

Girls and Peacemaker. So they really like threading it through and it's it's like, oh shit, everything's connected again. Yep. Speaking of Hawke Girl. Yeah, that her name. Just I think you said for you, the big three was your favorite part

and that might be correct for me as well. just I think you said for you the big three was your favorite part and that might be Correct for me as well, but I like the way the Justice Gang all had their chemistry, you know Yeah, that was good their chemistry. I like them. I don't know if they we needed as much of them as we got But I also understand their purpose of like this is we're establishing a world with heroes and a kind of a system, you know, there are teams formed like they wanna put Superman and us like right in the middle of that, so I get it. And I liked all three of them. Mr. Terrific kind of stole the show and a lot of his scenes,

the theater was going nuts for him. A lot of the looks he was given, I love that Superman versus the big monster, the Kaiju thing, when he's saving everyone, including the squirrel, that was so like Christopher Reeve saving the cat from the tree and everything, giving it back to the little girl. And I love the look. Mr.

Terrific shot him when he's like, I'm trying to come up with a way to, you know, save it, make sure it doesn't die. She's like, you've got to be fucking kidding me, man. And the way he tells it, and he's just so pissed. That was really good. I also love just like all of these scenes taking place in the broad daylight. We didn't get like this big nighttime Superman battle. Like it is very with the movie.

It's with the tone of the movie that everything's in the broad daylight. It looks great. The whole movie, the CGI looked great, I thought. The crypto CGI is crazy. Cause I think he's a CGI dog for 99% of that. And he looks like a real dog. Yeah. CGI dog for 99% of that. And he, oh really? Real dog. Yeah.

Oh, I didn't realize that. I thought they did some funny, just funny business with a real dog. So, um, and they made it. I like how it was like, Oh, this just, this is great dog. It's like, no, this dog doesn't listen to like, hold him a bad dog, right? Yeah. A dog. Yeah. He's not even mine. He's like a foster situation. Yeah. He's chasing even that good of a dog. He's not even a dog. He's not even mine. He's like a foster situation guy. He's chasing the stuff.

How did Crypto play for you? Because I'm such a dog guy that like every single time he was on screen I was like, oh my god, I love him. Fights, I think he was like, there was a bit too much dog for me. Fights loved it. But he was also like there was a lot of dog. I think I can see that.

I also think that it kind of ties into the Justice Gang where it's like if you want to have you have to have someone help him if you're not going to have him just you know yeah win it all by himself and that was a nice way of like you didn't have to have another character come in whether it's a Justice League character and he wasn't just god mode like it wasn't like Superman is just completely it was what I like in an action movie. What we always talk about with like diehard or Indiana Jones, like our two favorite action franchises, the hero keeps getting his ass kicked. And Superman in this movie gets his ass kicked a lot and he comes back from it. But they kick his

ass in ways that make comic book logic sense where you're like, all right, I could see he's weakened from this, he's weakened from that, like, he has his quite literally even match he's fighting at certain points. So I liked that I also liked that they didn't overuse kryptonite, and they kind of came up with like a very creative way I haven't seen before. To have the kryptonite turns himself in there and the thing and metamorphic and just make it out of his his fist and he's Just forced to cooperate lex fucking executing the guy that helped superman in a game of russian roulette I didn't think they were going there. That was one where I was like, all right, that's balls. I feel like In like captain america brave new world. They're not executing that guy there. It's like all right Superman's gonna break out here And it's not like he's just's gonna break out here and it's

not like he's just in cold blood. The fact that it's Russian roulette, you're like, alright, and then he's like, I didn't think it was gonna go that quick, you know, but he still still murdered the motherfucker. He still has some

poor girl that wrote a bad blog about him. You know, it's just straight up in the **** no man. No, not thumbs up, not thumbs up. No, we do not approve that. We do not approve that YouTube. Uh also the monkeys. How about the monkeys that were typing like super shit and

stuff? It was part I mean, you know, we, we, you know, we obviously have our share of fans, but anyone at Parcel has their fair share of haters too. And I just like to figure out those little monkeys with their thing just shitting on us or whatever. It was great. I also thought I'm sure there are going to be people that think they injected maybe too much real life or real world politics into the movie. I thought they rode the line well where they, the stuff with the countries and conflict felt very real world and you could point to like two or three more conflicts going on right now, yeah.

But I felt like they even made it almost vague enough or not such a big part of the movie that it could be either one of the conflicts going on right now. It's like I don't even know which one they're necessarily referring to there. I thought they did a good job of like, this is still about the politics in Superman's world, not ours. Yeah, 100%. And again, felt like an Eastern European ish kind of thing, but they don't seem like monstrous country. So it's like even that it's not one-to-one

What might be today the like maybe more right-wing news that? Lex is going on. It's not like a straight ripoff. So you're like here I am back in the real world in the fucking movie theater where I go to escape it Yeah, but it's like you have to also be true to the beats like we live in a real world in this world mirrors our world and in a lot of ways even the line that uh who's it who's uh James's brother's name uh uh he's Kirk and Gilmore girls he's Sean Sean when he's like liberals and conservatives can finally agree on something right was that yeah yeah at the end yeah that was really funny Lex there's an idiot or whatever an asshole here's here's a weird this isn't even really criticism.

Did you feel at times that there was almost too much cursing? There wasn't a lot, so it's a weird thing to say, but they say shit like three or four times and by like the fourth time I was like, all right, that's enough with the shit. So I didn't even, I noticed one curse word and I think I thought that when AJ hears that he's gonna laugh Yeah, cuz I'm gonna take him to see this I think and I did go on reddit just to get people's thoughts before we went live And I saw one person say like I loved it, but there was just way too much cursing So I don't think you're alone that Bob by the way Did I tell you what AJ said in the car the other day? All right, we did it out I don't know if I I don't know if I saw it. He goes, uh dad

But what did he say he goes is dick a curse word And I laugh I was frozen I was driving I'm frozen and I just started laughing like And he still has like a sweet little seven year old voice. He's like, stick a curse word. And I was like, and I've just started laughing. My wife's in the bathroom. She starts laughing. I'm like, yeah, man, can't be saying that.

And then the next day he calls it the D word though. He goes, he goes, dad, how do you use the D word? Do you say like D word you or like how do you use it? Like he's looking to weaponize this thing that he now knows what it is and he said what is the D word anyway? I was like that's another word for a penis and we don't call people private but I got like I was like do I tell him and I'm like yeah you tell him because he's gonna find out the next time he sees a friend they're gonna say what it is and then they're gonna get into a curse word conversation I'm just gonna you know give it to him

It was one of those things so the cursing thing Superman it's like you do think is it gonna just be straight PG in that sense yeah, I Think some people are gonna actually be upset about it cuz like I said I didn't see one person here to complain about it and where there's one there's man Yeah, well, I didn't think it was too bad It was just like it kind of the by the third or fourth time it hit my ear like oh They're really like kind of like a fly forward. Yeah, cuz it is very yeah The rest of the movie is very friggin like kid-friendly for sure. This is the kind of movie

I said you could take a kid to this and they could become a Superman fan for the rest of their lives. It's the kind of movie where it's like so hopeful and awe-inspiring and the scenes where he's rising up from the rubble or floating in it, the score is crescendoing that makes you be like holy shit Superman's fucking awesome huh? Like that was one of these kinds of movies for sure. Yeah and And Hey, your parents, they, they are just there to screw you up. Basically. Pop Clark, pop Kent, pop Clark, pop Kent. He's a bald guy. He's a little heavy. Yeah.

What did you think of them? Clemmer did not like them. I thought they were great. I thought the scene where he gets choked up telling Clark how proud he is fucking got me a little bit. Did that come in my feels? Yep. I like that.

The bomb was such a bumpkin, a country bumpkin. Made it almost yelling into the phone. Yeah. Yep, I like that the bomb was such a bumpkin a country bumpkin Yelling into the phone. Yeah It's on the box for you Clark, which he's talking about. Yeah So that kind of stuff I was fine with but I'm also not someone that has a real like Oh, I hope they have this version of yeah, I'm popular Ken So teach their own if climber doesn't like it, which we'll have to get clubbers thoughts when it's all said and I wrote a blog Still streaming now the the bar stool, Robbie, with your 24-hour stream. Yeah. And listen, Jerry had it too. As soon as I hit the 24-hour mark, I was like, yeah, I know how that feels and it doesn't feel good. They went fucking 40 hours or something crazy like that. Oh yeah, disgusting, man. Disgusting. I liked how fucked up Superman looked from the

kryptonite poisoning. He looked like he just did a 24-hour stream. Yeah, that's a good way to put it. And how he was still obviously fucked up because he didn't have the sun. Yeah, they're still showing its veins after he got out of the portal. I like how much they talked about the sun powering him too and how that works because I feel like maybe it's just me but I feel like talking to non-comic fans that's something that sometimes goes over their head where they're like, oh the sun is like big Why Superman's so powerful on earth. And like that's a big part of the comics and his character and under a red sun, under a yellow sun. Like I liked how much that was brought up two or three times, but that was enough.

Yeah. No, that feels like it's going to be a thing continuing. Yeah. It also does give them a way to like nerf him when they have to. Yeah. It's like, because I knew that as a kid, but I didn't know obviously the first time I read Superman And then after you hear like alright that makes sense

But if you're just getting in for the first time like oh, he was just he's an alien and he's like a super alien He's in him. Yeah, whatever the planet of invincible is which by the way Muhammad Ali He went and fucking under a red Sun. So yeah, you know powers the the guy the the So he had no powers the the guy the the The thing about the family and have your haram and whatever that felt invincible ish to me It did that their planet is like take over the viltrumites. Yeah the viltrumites Yeah, the share DNA there fucking cool twist the James Gunn thought of there Oh another thing that I thought was clever. Two things kind of in the same sequence.

One, how the engineer kind of planned to kill him in that final battle where they were like killing his lungs and his eyeballs and shit. I was like, OK, clever. And then also clever how Superman realized he was the only one being shielded at that moment and drove them into the crust of the earth again. I was like, this is fucking smart. It's brains over brawn. The movie. I was like, this is **** smart. It's Brains over Braun. The movie. I

thought he was going to try to freeze them in space and we're getting another Guardians of the Galaxy. I'm like, RIP, my god, I'm not ready for this. Alright, I'll never get ready to watch freezing **** in space. He can't get enough. What

if we just raise up James for the 100th time? You're like, come on, man. And he can't keep dealing. He makes Scooby. They're like, what if Scooby, they launched a villain into space, and he freezes him? And they're like, into space? And he wants to freeze Scooby again. It's like Michael Scott with the gun in the office.

Yeah. James, stop freezing people in space right now. I thought I liked Guy Gardner being funny funny being like a dickhead. His name dropping Clark Kent on Lois Lane. Do you know he's Clark Kent? That got a huge laugh at our theater. She's like, Jesus Christ. Cause I thought it was, it was impressive to me almost in a similar way of like Gambit and Deadpool and Wolverine. How he's very funny. But then when it came time to business, he was kind of badass when he shows up with the Justice Gang in, what was the name of the country?

Jarhandpur? Jarhandpur? Something like that, I wrote it down, but it's hard to pronounce. When they're expecting Superman and chanting Superman, and they show up, it's still kind of like a, oh yeah moment. It's like, they're gonna fucking go get him. And they weren't like the greatest, obviously,

they weren't meant to be the greatest gang of heroes, but you're still like, yeah, go get him. And he he's badass. And I like when he's cocky and you know, you know, super maker to make it so you got something better. And he's Yeah, all the middle fingers are my fingers. And again, you know, he's never fucking wrong because he's a professor. Our boy Jose was like, No, this guy's great. His haircut. It's funky looking. It's silly. He rules and you guys are going to like him and we do.

And we're one for one in Green Lantern so far in the James. Yeah. Which is a win. And Jose texted me he was going to go on Friday because he's working so much of this. Uh, it's Katie Taylor versus Amanda Serrano three. The trilogy is going down on Saturday. He's working a lot of the press conferences and all of the media days and stuff like that. So he's like, I was going to go on Friday. And then he just got to like amped up in height. So he bought tickets for 11pm tonight. So he's going to a really late showing. So if

you want his take, I'm sure the podcast will be out by then already. But go to his Twitter for sure. How is a young because he's the fucking like Superman is his guy from day one. He was posting baby pictures of him and Superman capes and shit the other day. So But go to his Twitter for sure Jose Young's because he's the fucking like Superman is his guy from day one He was posting baby pictures of him and Superman capes and shit the other day So I'm very excited to hear what he thinks. I think he's gonna love it cuz of the comic booky feel it It's like how could you not? Yeah, I think if you ask him to send you a voice memo like Tommy's review would just be the Darth Vader Also, how about this?

I got a really fun fact for everybody. I watched some of the Christopher Reeve documentary last night, which I got to be honest is very sad. I thought it would be about his whole life. Oh, really? It's really just about, it starts at the accident and follows his recovery, which is very inspiring, but it's very sad to watch. It just is.

But he mentions that David Prowse, the actor who played Darth Vader in the suit in the original trilogy, was the guy who came up with his workout regimen and diet regimen for him to get into shape to play Superman, because David Prowse was like a former Mr. Universe. So in a weird way, Darth Vader is responsible for Superman. That's cool. That's that's very cool. Did they mention in the documentary, like, what did he ever do to Eminem that made him just go at him for like five hours straight? They did not talk about the Eminem thing, but yeah, crazy.

Sonny Bono and Christopher Reeve just got shit on for years by Eminem and I don't know why. I'm almost positive Christopher Reeve's son was the newscaster who first mentions like, the, you know, Green Lantern, Hawke Girl, and Mr. Terrific are here on the scene to like whatever. They cut to a quick news broadcast. Pretty sure it was Christopher Reeves' son. That's a I would like you know, when we find out the little Easter eggs like that, that's something that you like to hear when they're taking care of the people from the OGs, which I mean, that's James Gunn's thing is he's gonna scratch anyone he can. Speaking of Jose,

and speaking of the Justice Gang, he said, I stand corrected. I did not love Mr. Terrific in the trailer. He was probably my favorite. He was my, I don't even want to, I don't know if I can say my favorite character in the movie. Like I don't want to say it was Superman in the movie and the blonde bombshell I just mentioned. But Mr. Terrific, when he came on screen, I was like, yes, let's go. Like this guy's fun. He does cool shit. And I just, I really fucking like him. His action sequence was cool when he puts Lois

in the bubble and he just fucking goes to work with his T-Orbs. That was- Not circles. Yes, not circles. That was straight out of Guardians. That was a Guardians scene. Had the music playing too. And I was like, let's cook, baby.

And the fact that it was a guy who kind of like a gardens guy I didn't know anything about and I loved him just based on all the stuff he did and I was like Mr. Terrific Jose you did not see me wrong he was great and I Falcon Girl is kind of is that her name Falcon Girl Hawk Hawk okay she was okay that was yeah that was weird right she does that like she has to do that because that's what she does. But it was he has weird. Didn't translate will just say maybe they can figure out a way to make a trends a little better in live action. I did like her like attitude and they're just kind of dismissing the Justice Gang. How about her clobbering that eyeball with her? Yes. It was great. And then the thing that Green Lantern makes that's just like, dig, dig, dig, dig, dig, dig, dig, dig. like it was great. And then the thing that Green Lantern makes, that's just like,

he makes like a, it's basically the little, um, bird that drinks some water. It just keeps going. Yeah. And Ryan, you've like a tattoo needle, but like, the fucking things eyeball that, that really got a big laugh out of me too. My biggest problem with Hawke girl, other than the screen, the caca was I, she's now Dina. Is that her name in the last of us? And I could not see sitting in the Justice Hall, I almost thought it was like her sitting like when they were trying to get the arrow out of her leg, like in that same style. Yeah. She was so, I mean, her hair, like her makeup, it was like Dina. And it's no fault of anybody. It's just like, that actor stuck in my... By the way, Bob, we didn't talk about this and by the time we talk again, it's gonna be too late.

Two writers, like two of the... Oh, Last of Us, I saw that. That's not good. Not a great sign. And then there was a story that Pedro Pascal had like a conversation with one of them, like, do you like the direction that this is going? Like, are you in on?

Like, I think Pedro pulled someone aside and was like, just wanna make sure that like you're good right? And as someone that is covered in another HBO show that goes off of source material then the creators like I'm out which is George RR Martin like at some point of all the throne series it doesn't usually get better when that happens. Yeah yeah I'm still like listen I'll be there season three premiere. Yeah, we'll be there hoping for the best prepared for the worst I'm actually gonna text kevin. I'm gonna say did you I'm sure you heard a kfc Yeah, but if someone is like a diehard thing i'm like, oh, okay I feel much better about my takes from season two now. I was like some of this

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unofficial. Yeah, Superman, Supergirl, all of them. How about evil Superman with the long hair? Listen, David Cornsweat. I was 20 minutes into this movie. I was like, all right, new man crush. I gotta be be honest, fucking admit it man crush activated. And then he comes out with the long hair at the end. I was like, Holy fuck, man crush activated. And then he comes out with the long hair at the end. I was like, holy fuck, this guy rocks. Cool fight, some creative like scenes,

the arm bar into the fucking flip over, bus hits them black hole. This has to be bizarro in the future, right? I mean, it's already like half bizarro. It's another version of Superman, but I wanna see him come back in the future Justice League thing, a Superman sequel, super fucked up looking fucking the purple suit yellow and purple crooked

Superman backwards Superman icon or whatever. I think that would be awesome. I thought you're gonna say Bucky when he took the mask off. I also will admit I thought this was very predictable. from the moment they walked into the fortress of solitude And they were like how'd you get in here? And he doesn't really answer and then we find out the DNA I was really expect an Ultraman to be a clone of Superman I was like why are we not getting that explanation so I was a little confused and I wasn't thinking I don't have all my DC cannon in my head so I was I was like Lex Luther could have just um

Some crazy next level by dna shit makes sense. Go to the fights find the hair blah blah blah. That's how we got luke Right with the hand. Yeah, we made another luke so you can make another superman I also loved that the puny god moment in this movie was crypto getting revenge on his dog napper. The theater loved that when he fucking runs and he starts tearing him apart and Lex is screaming and everyone's looking on horrified. I thought that was a great moment. The final confrontation between Lex and Superman in that Lex Corp like tower that comes off or whatever.

That came off as as iconic to me. When Superman basically does that monologue explaining who Superman is as a character at heart, and then Lex goes back at him, and then Superman is just standing there, arms crossed, as Lex is teary-eyed and shaking with rage. I was like, that is Superman and Lex, and that's kind of like, it felt like we're destined to do this

forever. Like we're gonna be around for a long time. And we're gonna be at odds for a long time. Yeah, I would like more and I don't know more interactions is the right way to put it. But now that they've addressed each other and you know, he knows who he is. And obviously Lex knows who he is. Just like, all right, let's keep this going. And he you know he knows who he is and obviously Lex knows who he is Just like alright. Let's keep this going and he's just motherfucking Superman and letting him hey I did this to you and like the vitriol between them is good it also I again I remembered he was beast right Nicholas Holt. Yeah, so I just couldn't unsee that I kept seeing his eyes

I'm like that's beast, but it's not they said he was the hairiest MCU character and the baldest DCU character He shaved his head and wore a bald cap the baldest man ever on screen that guy sacrifices for the comic book Always welcome in the basement when we got and this is kind of like Vader in Rogue One We got full Superman going full Superman on everybody I was like yes, and you can't do that the whole movie, but you can do it either in the beginning before everything falls apart or at the end when you're about to save the day. And I was like, fuck yeah, I just wanna see.

They saved it. It was like they were edging us the whole movie. And in the end we fucking, we came. You said it Bob, not me. We came with red lasers out of our eyes. You know? The fucking punch with the teeth bouncing off the screen. The lasers around.

The shot of all the bodies just falling. That was awesome. Like flies afterwards. There were so many shots where he just looked so triumphant. The shot of him when he saves the building and the car drives away and she looks back and he's just fucking floating there and it's dusty and like, oh, that gave me

chills. I was like, that's Superman. Every time I was like, I love the zoom ins on the S. I thought that was a very cool choice. A couple of real big zoom ins on the S Superman. I also warmed up to that, um, like kingdom come style S so much from the time they first announced it. And I was never opposed to it. I was just like, oh, that's interesting. It's not the typical S that we're used to. And now it just feels so normal to me, especially after seeing the movie.

The marketing did a great job, I guess, with that too, because it's been everywhere. Yeah, I'm sure Iron Man looked weird when he wasn't this clunky guy, right? He was a little more sleek. And he looked cooler, that's for sure. This one might not look better depending on your being. I love the suit too. The more I see the suit, the collar, he's a little more sleek and you know cooler. That's for sure this one Yeah, might not look better depending on your I love the suit too the more I see the suit the collar He just looks badass the fact that they went with the trunks

I'm very happy about I love that they put the yellow s on the cape Stuff that people said would be silly stuff that people said wouldn't work in a modern movie. It works It's fine Like nobody's like that yellow cape fucking took me out of it like it's totally fun Also, the hypnoglass is explanation great. I loved that Like it's totally fun. Also the hypnoglass's explanation. Great, I loved that. Like, did you know he fucking wears those hypnoglasses? I was wondering, and again, that's something

you were just saying, but yeah, in this world, that's just how it happened. Yeah. We're just gonna let it fly. Like what the fuck. And even the way Clark in the beginning is like, the glasses, he almost says like the jacket. Ha ha ha.

Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Um, this, the, I'll say one, one criticism that happened during the trailer, I think hubs even mentioned it. And I think it sometimes didn't work and it sometimes did work. Sometimes the flying was great. Sometimes the flying was not great. You know what I'm talking about? I would agree.

There were a couple of scenes where, yeah, I was like, they did some shaky cam stuff with the flying was not great. You know what I'm talking about? I would agree. There were a couple scenes where yeah, I was like, they did some shaky cam stuff with the flying. I liked most of it, I will say. But I think there was one or two shots where I was like, oh, that looked interesting. Maybe a little strange, but it's something that I'm sure the more I rewatch it, I'll probably get more used to it. And that's the thing is this is our first time with Superman in a while. And it's like, you're going to nitpick everything when it's just on in the background and it's not new anymore. You just be like you're not even gonna notice those kind of things. Yeah.

This is gonna be a fun rewatch too. I could really see myself throwing this on in the background constantly because it is just like puts you in a good mood. It's one of those like feel good movies that you leave the theater being like fuck yeah. Everyone in our group left the theater being like, fuck yeah. The climbers said it was fun. It was the most fun DC moving. Right.

And that was, it was a fun ride. Um, something, the, the one battle scene that happens at night was the one where he's not participating in it is a guy. It's just an imp like, you know, they got it without me. And I liked, I liked that you could just have that. That's just normal typical day in metropolis. You have three guys battling an air dimensional demon green lantern was bonking it too in the background Did you notice that you had a just fucking bonking it over and over again?

That made me laugh for sure And then I teared up at the ending when lois tells him I love you too And I should have told you that a long time ago or whatever and they float call me a fucking sappy guy They're floating up cleveland arcade shout out Cleveland arcade, beautiful building. I've got a thousand pictures there with lady Fox. Um, and then the ending ending when he wants to see videos of his parents and they pan around and show you they're talking about mom, pa Kent like that was like,

what a sweet familial moment to end on. Like I'm picturing families walking out of Superman and fucking kids are thinking of their parents that way like that's so awesome Love Lex I'm really kind of nervous about if you like Lex Luthor do that because he knows like oh like I want a prison just like Lex he puts all his like kind of nervous about if you like like Sleuther do that. Casino's like, oh. He's like, I want a prison just like Lex. He puts all his like, he puts all the bad guys in jail and he puts them in little boxes and like locks them up. So I'm kind of like concerned that he is gonna really like

see that be like, this guy is awesome. He has everything I want. He created a pocket dimension just for this kind of stuff. I have to admit like when he was like flying up with her and I'm like, oh, what are we gonna do next? And I'm thinking like when he was like flying up with her and I'm like oh what are we gonna do next and I'm thinking like he can't sex with her and I became Brody from Mall Rats. Great Wendell Pierce delivery too and great look he gives them at first when they go off and he gives them the you ain't

slick look he's like I fucking I see you guys and then he says to Jimmy's like so how long have they been hooking up he's like I think about three months it just seems so like natural like that seemed like a real like co-worker interaction that was a good point it was like a good co-worker thing that just cavished really off the cuff but everyone's had something like that with the co-worker can I wait for you to actually meet Wendell Pierce as bunk because you're just gonna love it. I got a sample, which is almost impossible to say. Excuse me. And then I liked the the redirection. When Lex is like, I'm gonna get that

reporter that you always like, oh, fuck, he's talking about Lois. And it's like Clark Kent. And I was like, oh, because that would have been very tropey for him to kidnap the girl damsel in distress. And the fact they didn't do that, even though she ended up in the portal anyway, with Mr. Terrific, was a nice twist, I thought. And almost like the Batman,

like the Riddler's like going after Bruce Wayne, but doesn't know. I also thought, someone brought this up on Twitter, and I completely agree and mean Feitelberg said the same thing. I said it to Tommy afterwards. I said this is the perfect like This is the ying to the Batman's gang. That is the most grounded realistic Set in pretty much a real-world movie And this is the complete opposite that movie can't take a kid to see this movie kids are gonna fucking

the complete opposite. That movie you can't take a kid to see, this movie kids are gonna fucking love and buy every action figure on the shelves at Toys R' Us and Target or wherever they're friggin on sale at this point. And it kind of solidified in my mind that yeah, the DCU needs its own Batman. As weird as it's gonna be to have two Batman going simultaneously, you can't say that the Robert Pattinson Batman and this David Cornsweat Superman exist in the same universe, I don't think. I, I, that's the thing. I was like, I'm fine with it. And it does feel like this universe when you bring in the Wonder Woman's to flash another Batman, everyone, it's like an aquarium. You can just let them loose. They're going to fit in just fine. You know, that Batman would have felt very, it would have been putting like a saltwater fish in a freshwater tank. It would not need a Batman in this universe. That's going against Clayface and Killer Croc and maybe Mr. Freeze and Poison Ivy and these weird villains that we would love to see but definitely wouldn't work in The Penguin, The Batman, Reeves first. You leave them to do the realistic, gritty adult thing and let James Gunn have fun with

whoever he wants to have in the DC universe. I also just saw this. The justice gang is technically assembled and operated by the Lord tech CEO, Maxwell Lord, who is James Gunn's brother that we just mentioned when he says, I thought we were going to get a little more of him. Cause I knew like, I saw him on the red carpet. It said like Maxwell Lord. And I was like, Oh shit. I'm really excited to see like him as Maxwell Lord, who was the best part of Wonder Woman 1984 bad movie, but Pedro Pascal played Maxwell Lord and he

hammed it up. He was so like campy and fucking 70s. I know it's Pedro Pascal playing everyone. I know I'm just so mad that I didn't see that movie, but like the it was it seemed like a great idea. They seem to be gearing it towards the a great idea they they seem to be yeah gearing it towards the music and then they had Pedro and then everyone was like no everything sucked about it essentially except for a good major really bad there was like a cool um they

did post credit scene where they brought back Linda Carter and that was like oh shit but it was you know a cheap pop yeah the the movie equivalent of a cheap pop there was a cool like fight at the end to her and Cheetah have a cool fight at the end but it's like not worth the movie equivalent of a cheap pop. There was a cool like fight at the end to her and Cheetah have a cool fight at the end, but it's like not worth the movie that leads up to it. And how about speaking of double dipping, like Pedro Pascal, Wendell Pierce, double dipping DC and Marvel in one year.

He was in Thunderbolts like very briefly and then gets to appears Perry White, a frigging iconic DC character, who also I rewatched Superman one and two this week and Lois Lane's introduction scene I forgot how funny these movies are the introduction scene like made me spit out my drink she's like running up to Perry White and she's like oh what do you think about this like I'm covering this new friggin headline this murder or whatever he looks at it goes rapist has one P he just walks away from

her. I was like, Jesus Christ. What a way to fucking, you know, introduce that character in a kid's movie. Crazy. I loved that they were roasting Clark's uh like writing ability as well. That was incredible. Yeah. I gotta get through a

fucking Clark article. Yeah. And the way him and Jimmy were celebrating when he got in when they're fucking like punching each other like he's like, fuck Paige, let's go's go like that was great. So you're talking about pops What was the pop like when Supergirl shows up my cousin and then she's there and acting like a woo girl Probably the biggest pop of the movie. I gotta be honest He says my cousin and I knew immediately but like I still second-guessed it cuz this didn't leak anywhere

I don't think I think this was like the most kept under wraps thing that Supergirl was going to be in this fucking movie. And when she showed up people went nuts to the point where I think some people thought that this was the Supergirl from the TV show. Because we were we were some people were like, oh, like it's that TV show must have been great with the reaction it got. And I was like, Oh, no, it's like just because people are excited to see Supergirl and Millie Alcock who

people loved in House of the Dragon. And I loved how they set up her movie because Superwoman of Tomorrow, the comic is about her turning 21 and going to a world with a red sun so she could go party and get drunk. And she kind of wants to put her responsibilities to the side and then gets wrapped up in a very heroic story, of course. But I thought it transitioned into that perfectly. That'll be the next DC movie we get. And the fact that they throw one quick twist at the end,

one more twist, and they're like, oh yeah, it's Krypto is her dog. And Krypto jumping on her and sending her into the crust of Antarctica. And he's like, see, this is why the fucking dog has behavioral issues. That was so great. I loved all of that.

That was perfect, the way they wrapped all that together. And I don't know, I didn't know Supergirl was reckless in general, if that's at least one of the characters. This version of her for sure is. And I think, I don't know if it's in this version, but in a lot of the comics, she's older than Clark and was sent to Earth kind of like to make sure he landed okay. Gotcha. And then so we knew she was gonna be Supergirl. That was known. Yeah. They just didn't know she was gonna be in this movie.

Yeah, correct. Okay. And like, we never even saw her suit. Like they filmed the whole movie, it's wrapped Supergirl. And there were people were trying to get like really grainy far away photos of her suit. You could just tell it was like a blue blob. But the fact that like they showed the suit, I thought was fucking dope and it looks great. She's got the skirt. She had like a jacket on over it. Like she was like

the Linda Cardellini and freaks and geeks or something. I loved it. Yeah, it was cool. And my theater, I didn't it was a very empty theater because I just this a theater I didn't even know was open anymore. So there wasn't a ton of people. But one guy behind me goes, Whoa, well, you're like hyperventilated. And I was like, what's happening? Like, and were you like Jose? Yeah, exactly. It must have been Jose.

Right. And I'm looking back and I'm like, who is this cousin? He's talking about, and then I'm like, oh, and I'm like, oh, okay. That is someone that probably gets people geeked up about it for lack of a better. Yeah. And then the post credit scenes were just fun and they set the bar kind of low for post credit scenes. The one was just, it was barely even the scene. It was just a cool shot of Superman and crypto

that we kind of saw already. And then there was the funny one with Mr. Terrific where he's like, it's not, you know, not, not exact here. I thought that was good. But in my mind, the super girl scene almost served the purpose that normal post credit scene would like that tease the next project. And James Gunn was like, don't expect something crazy out of every post credit scene would like that tease the next project and James Gunn was like don't expect something crazy out of every post credit scene and I wouldn't mind if this is just what his post credit scene are they could have more stuff to them maybe if you have the occasional saying there's five movies that come out one has something oh shit yes right or they know none of them do I will say this though I had a piece so bad I think by this point and I waited and then when I saw the first post credit scene, I'm like, all right

Well, the second one's gonna have to fucking hit hard and then I saw the second I'm like that was not worth I would have just like to have read about it online and I would just you know Pete earlier. Yeah, how we I eat in between scenes? Yeah, that's that's the smart way to do it The supergirl was they could have done that at Dean and got another pops way to do it. The Supergirl was, they could have done that at the end and gotten all the pops. Sometimes it's better not having to do that. Like Marvel is basically at this point now, like look, we're just as guilty where it's like that fucking post credit scene sucked. We waited around, secret invasion, we're like, all will be fine as long as you give us one good post credit scene. Check it off on the bingo card an hour and three

minutes in we hit it Bitched about a bad TV show after a good movie, but Like James don't feel the need to do that. Don't even feel the yeah do them I could tell when there's not one and if you want people to watch the credits I guess you have to do them. But if not, like that's a Marvel thing in my mind It doesn't I hate it when Star Wars was like talking about doing I was like no No, we don't need to do that in every single, you know franchise Yeah, definitely and the post credits or the the credits themselves did feature a special Thank you to a ton of comic writers and artists, which I thought was cool. You don't always see that

They had a big list of them. Um, and then I had some criticisms that I wrote down. Um One like I said before I think the overstuffed criticism is pretty valid. I think I could see that. Rewatches will probably help that. My biggest criticism, and this isn't a huge criticism, it didn't ruin the movie for me. I didn't need to see Lois Lane in the Pocket Universe and flying Mr. Terrific's ship around the country. And that goes for kind of the whole Daily Planet crew.

At the end, when they're all in the ship together and they're cheering them on, I was kind of like, this is a little much for the first movie for all of them to be so kind of casual, relaxed about we're in a fucking spaceship over this battle and everything. I think if they were all in the Daily Planet as the rift is breaking Metropolis apart,

the drama's the same. And it was just it didn't take me out of the movie too much, but it was it's a leap where you're like, all right, I guess the controls are intuitive or whatever. But it was like I didn't need all that. I am with you on both and both at the time. I was like, again, I was like, all right, we're not going to have Lois doing the thing and then Lois is in there and then the she's flying spaceships Yeah

And even like the all the pocket universe stuff went on a little bit too long for me Well, I liked the stuff with Metamorpho and a son and him being held captive and that stuff was good And making the Sun was fucking cool the way it was lit and everything I loved by the time we get into the black hole Lava that's pixelated and we're getting, you know, it just went on a little bit too long. It was a good moment when crypto and Metamorpho pull them out and it's like good, but I thought that if you're going to cut anything, it was that. And then if I was going to be fair, I criticized Man of Steel a lot for destroying all

of Metropolis in the first Superman battle. And they do not go quite that far in Superman. But I think there is still a little bit too much Metropolis destruction for my liking. When we see the shot of the buildings going, do, do, do, do, do. I was like, alright, I know they're saying they evacuated, but we're talking multiple skyscrapers going down going down hard I think you could have gotten to the black holes about to hit metropolis and Superman saves it and again I don't know if like the drama is removed as much for me But that's really it. That's really like all of the criticisms

I had can be boiled down to like it was a little silly that Lois Lane and Perry White were like flying a spaceship together There was a lot of destruction in Metropolis and there was a little silly that Lois Lane and Perry White were flying a spaceship together. There was a lot of destruction in Metropolis and there was a lot going on. Everything else in the movie I adored. I loved. I can't wait to go back and watch it in theaters. I texted Lady Fox. She's on a work trip.

I was like, we're going back. You got to see this movie. You're going to love it. So for me, I will do our fast food reviews. If we're doing a ball scale thing, this is like a 4.5 balls for me, it's like, I will do our fast food reviews. If we're doing like a ball scale thing, this is like a 4.5 balls for me. It's very close to the patents in Batman, which I like a little more than this.

I would put the patents in Batman above this, but they're so different. It's very hard to compare. But I loved how this just didn't feel very formulaic. Like Thunderbolts did a pretty good job breaking the mold a little bit in the beginning, the end, the kind of the high stuff. And then they got into like the mental health ending, which was a different twist. But like Brave New World, we pretty much knew all the beats that that movie was going to hit. And they

hit all the beats. And I didn't hate it. I actually said on this podcast, I liked it. It was aggressively mid, but I liked it. This just, it didn't feel like I know exactly what's going to happen next. I know exactly what's going to happen next, even though it's a Superman movie where you know he's going to fucking save the day. It still had me like on the edge of my seat. Yeah, fun. It was fun, right? That was so much fun. I think that that that handles it. So it's interesting because I would give it a like a seven five out of ten right and I think that's like like a fine movie on the ball scales of three seven five right because that's how the number yeah so it's it seems a little harsher I just don't know if it's a four out

of five for me but it's just like I gave Thunderbolts a four out of five for context that's the Robbie Fox Curve that's the Robbie Fox And then our fast food review, the most important review there is. I said I came up with one pretty quick. Do you mind if I kick us off here? Of course not. I think it's the McDonald's Happy Meal with the toy that you wanted because I think this made me feel like a kid again, Clem. I was just delighted by how Superman made me feel. I walked out of the theater with the same feeling that I left like The first Avengers movie with they're like I left the fuck in I don't even know what movies as a really young kid But like I was just like inspired. I was like this movie is exactly what I wanted it to be

So what would your fast food review be? Hand to God my review. It's the adult Happy Meal from McDonald's. There we go. Look at us. Linked. Like Superman and Ultraman here. Yep. Exactly. I think Superman, the character, the comic, even the early movies, that's the Happy Meal, the American classic. Everyone's happy. It's fucking sunshine and rainbows. It's a cartoon in real life form AJ the other day he got a drink of lemonade it's dad this tastes like sunshine that's just like most pure thing you could hear and that's when you said yeah

the adult happy meal they brought it back a couple I think was like two years ago I think a cactus flea market had some of the old beloved McDonald's figures They've remixed it and it's like, ah, I just happy that I can get a happy meal again, even though I'm not a kid I'm an adult and I think it's like nuggets and a Big Mac and then you get fries and a drink I think you get a toy you get in a big box and you just have happiness and that's kind of what happened Superman back In our life is and having the DC Universe potentially back in our life as a viable franchise or studio, whatever the hell you want to call it, universe.

So, and then they've done a couple other, they did a Minecraft recently with the McDonald's adult Happy Meals. I just saw they have another one right now where it's like a bunch of different throwback McDonald's things. And I just can't believe we both had McDonald's Happy Meals. I mean, the boys in the basement are on.

We are locked in. We are just waiting for Fantastic Four. Bring it to us, Marvel. We are fucking in lockstep right now. And we got a screener invite for that too, so we'll have a podcast. Like, we'll be able to record early, get it out right away.

All right, let's get into Tommy Smoke's review. I'm very curious. I mean, I was with him, so I know that he really liked it, but I'm curious as to what he said. It's a three-minute, four-minute review. And he sent like four voice memos. So it's a bunch. Let's get into it.

Here we go. I'm gonna play it into the mic. Let me know if you could hear it. All right, Superman review. Just a fantastic film. A fantastic film. I liked it a lot. Just a fantastic film, a fantastic film. I liked it a lot.

I thought it was a very fun portrayal of Superman as opposed to Zack Snyder's bullshit. He actually saved a lot of people. He didn't kill anyone. It's fun. I thought David Cornswett was great. Both Superman and Clark Kent, I would have liked to see him a little bit more as Clark Kent. Hopefully we could see that in future

films. Lois Lane, Rachel Brosnahan was fantastic. Jimmy Olsen I probably should have played, but he was good. Nick, Nicholas Holt was fantastic as Lex Luthor. I think Lex Luthor is one of the greatest villains in the DCU of all time or one of the greatest superhero movie villains I've ever seen I was a little concerned how you handle that role. Yeah, absolutely now that I think you did fantastic in that role I was a little afraid it was gonna be political. I heard all the lib shit Overbearing a little at the beginning but not not bad at all. Um, you know, I do wish maybe the meta humans were explained a little bit better. I wish maybe, like I said, we saw a little bit more of Clark Kent.

Um, I also, what was some of my other ground? There was the one line I didn't think David Cornsweat delivered well. When he's doing the interview with Lois where he says, uh, the people are gonna fucking die or whatever. Like I thought that was good in the trailer. It was not good in the film either. I wish they used another take, but he was really great. Best Superman portrayal since Christopher Reeves by far.

Really a lot of great moments. I love when Superman saves individual people. I mean, it could have used a little bit more of that, like Superman, you know, stopping a little armed robbery in the streets or something like that. But we did get some of that, Superman, you know, stopping a little armed robbery in the streets or something like that. But we did get some that the squirrel the lady with the car at the end iconic shot where he's, you know, flying by the buildings collapsing I thought that was awesome, beautiful.

So really good. You know, you want to review things like I just did and that spoiler I don't know but at the end I'm gonna talk for a minute. It's when they're like how long has she been hooking up with Superman about Lois? They're like three months. How the hell would anyone know that? How would anyone know that? There's never any build up publicly that Lois and Superman were a thing. That didn't make much sense to me. It would have made more sense if they knew Clark was Superman but it didn't seem like they knew Clark was Superman so I didn't really get that. But otherwise really really great film. I started I don't know how I left the start but I left the middle the the Phantom or the Pocket universe everything there where he stuck there. Just a great movie I was worried about it being overstuffed the Green Lantern Hawker all that but it didn't

feel that way they came in at the right times that the Green Lantern was a fun character Even though he's a weird haircut. I loved it You know again, I'm nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking but I overall loved the film I think it's a great start to DCU. There's the part of it's like I love a good origin story I wanted to fade a little more origin story, but I like to got the home videos at the end Show me your parents me and Robbie both agree I love to twist that Jor-El and whatever the wife like super aun's Krypton parents actually kind of wanted him to kill the whole world about that was unique twist. Bradley Cooper, great surprise cameo. Overall,

just just a great film. I'm trying to think of more points, but this is probably pretty long already. What else? This is Tommy Ebert. Yeah that Nicholas Holt fantastic just a good film just a really great film every time every time that hit was absolutely incredible. I loved it. Great start. Can't wait to see more. All right. And that was the first of four. That Daily Planet reporter with the fake blonde wig and glasses are the big moves. I like girl. Whoa, we're getting freaky. So acting by the girl who played like leaders's evil girl with all the ink and shit. She was terrible. Victoria's Secret model.

And this was our first acting gig without her. Yeah, she didn't say that. I'm sure she worked really hard on her crap. I feel bad saying that. I'm sure she'll get better with practice. But there were a few times where she'd do an accent, she'd not do an accent. But I feel bad saying that. I feel really bad saying that.

He said, so I think he might have that confused. He said the acting by the girl with the ink. So Eve Tessmacher was the Victoria Secret model, who I think this was her first big role. I think the other girl is an actress, so maybe he has that confused. And we've got one more, 40 seconds from him. Here we go.

I think they used Crypto. Maybe Crypto saved SuperR Superman a little bit too much. Seeing Superman be a little less weak than he was, it really gave a lot of moments of weakness, but again, that adds to the character, and I gotta take movie, you have to make Superman a little bit weak. But like, dude just loves seeing Superman be Superman.

I was like, see a little more of that. What is this voice? But seriously, overall a great film. I'm excited. It felt like a wonderful movie. In a good way. There was humor, it was bright. You can see the James Gunn influence. Overall, yeah, I'm

giving my nitpicks because I'm giving a review, but overall truly like 9 out of 10. I loved it. I'm gonna see it again for sure. There we go, Tommy Smoke. So we couldn't get him on the podcast. But I mean, we basically did. That was pretty long review.

That was good. We need to get his uncle's review now. I know. We brought him up. There was something he said at the dozen. And I was like, is that the fucking same uncle? He was like, that is the same uncle. Is he going to go?

He was like, he is not going to go. I promise you. He's not getting out of the house for sure, man. I was like, all right. When it comes out, you'll have to fucking bring it to him. I do. And listen, I agree with Tommy. We could say nitpicks on this podcast, because if we just said, it's a great, it's a great movie. When we say great, it's like that's 10 minutes

worth of, all right, this is awesome. Everything else is awesome. But like, let's just get the stuff out. Cause I do agree. Like I would like, like in future Superman, Superman, I was just Superman, Superman movies. Give me one where he is just kicking the shit out of people or maybe does. Yeah. Like when it's like stopping the guy who's like sticking up the girl that's I always Spider-Man does that perfectly. He does that all the time. He takes care of the little the little shit. I guess Superman could do that too. And then some of the nitpicks he had about the Clark. I'd like some more Clark Kent and I think everything you said is valid.

I back them up on that. And I mean, nine out of 10, that's four or five. You guys are locked up on the ball scale. Exactly. So there you go. That was the Superman review. What's our hashtag? Hashtag Baseman Haram?

Gun Haram. Gun Haram. Two Ns with the Gun Haram. Two Ns with the Gun Haram. That was the Superman review. I hope everyone liked it as much as we did. I think this was a great start to the James gun DCU and

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