My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 461 - DARBY ALLIN RETURNS

Episode Date: October 13, 2025

Darby Allin joins Robbie in the Basement to discuss his journey climbing Mt Everest, the worst bumps he's ever taken, the honor of being in Sting's final match, and more! Plus - stay tuned for an EXCLUSIVE Darby table bump! Watch Darby take on Jon Moxley in an 'I Quit' match at #AEWWrestleDream this weekend! #DarbyAllin #WrestleDream #AEW **************************************** My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike! Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. All right, welcome back to My Mom's Basement, ladies and gentlemen. It is Robbie Fox and Darby Allen. First time ever in person. I said right before we started recording, we did an interview via phone call, like four years ago, this week or this month, and I animated your side. So it's good to have you in non-cartoon form this time.

Yeah, it's good to be here. In town just for Comic-Con? Well, no, I had an art show. Oh, shit. I had an art show at 52 Walker. How'd that go? It was great. Whenever you get to incorporate art and music, we had some live punk bands playing.

Hell yeah. Before we had wrestling, got a little rowdy. People tried to break in with fireworks and blow the plays out. Wait, what? Yeah, it was cool. People tried to break into your art show with fireworks? Yep. What kind of like one battle after another shit is that?

It was sick, though. But I embraced the chaos. Okay, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was, yeah, no, I've been here all week and just getting myself and all shenanigans. We went to this concert on the bridge. Haywire was playing. It's this punk band.

They set up on the Brooklyn Bridge with some, what's it called again? When you, like, what's that called when you plug shit in? Generator, yeah. Oh, shit. They set up some generator on top of the bridge and blown shit up. And it was fun until literally this dude got jumped, and his face got stomped in by a bunch of people, and there's, like, blood everywhere.

And I was like, this is gnarly. You saw this happen on this weekend? Friday night. You've had a hell of a week, huh? Yeah, I'm still waking up. You're soaking up New York, for sure. Jesus Christ. Getting the most of it.

That's insane. I thought you were talking about there's a concert venue now under a bridge. No, no. Have you seen those videos? Those are crazy, too. a generator haywire in a dead city and they just how many people showed up it was pretty packed i'd say like about 350 holy shit wow yeah this bridge like it's insane cars driving by like right there yeah it was crazy and just they were blunt of fireworks and then they had like you know

flamethrowers and shit and this is unrelated to the fireworks from your art show i think it's the people that tried to break into the art show it's gotta be it's like it's like a batman villain with like the firework bandit. It was pretty shenanigans were at an all-time high that night. And that was the same day I attacked Moxley at the Comic-Con. So we got it, we had, it was just a long day. Well, I was going to say, that's like the most cool punk rock thing I could imagine. And then you also did Comic-Con, which is a little bit different than the punk rock vibes.

But you brought some punk rock vibes. Yeah, yeah. Got into a fight at Comic-Con. Yeah, that was awesome. How was, was your first time doing New York Comic-Con? Yeah, it was. It was. it was my first time yeah it was a good time you walked the floor at all yeah i well bam uh was signing

and i like i wanted to say what's up to him oh cool so yeah because right before uh i hung out with him when i got back from everest but he stayed at my house for like a week or so before i left for everest bam or jared yeah and we just skated every day and it was fun so it's always good to say what's up to him that's sick yeah are you into like comic book culture like nerd stuff I actually don't know anything about nothing. You don't. So, like, appearing in a DC comic, like, is that, like, oh, my God, this is crazy? Or is it just like, that's cool?

I'm really grateful for it, but I don't, but I don't, I'm, unfortunately, I don't know much. Wow, interesting, because, like, when I saw that. And I'm not going to lie and say, I, like, I know a lot because, like, I don't. Yeah. So, but it's, whenever you get to be a part of something that big. Oh, yeah. Dude, you're, like, appearing, like, along with that Batman. Yeah. It's pretty cool.

that's pretty gnarly like that's all when i saw as an a w fan and as a huge comic book fan i thought that was like the coolest crossover the artwork is so sick the image of all you guys jumping out you've got the flame throw yeah i don't got no superpowers i'm just gonna burn a motherfucker do you have would you say you have like if i asked for your favorite comic book movie does one come to mind favorite a comic book movie i know it sounds cliche but i'd probably say the dark night yeah it's my favorite movie it's just like i don't know i just really like the story and it was just really good and i don't know if you even consider would you consider joker the todd phillips one i would yeah that was really good too the first one was really good yeah

the second one oh rough did you see that one yeah i was sad yeah that was tough it was a tough watch i was really sad i was like man that that was the to me it's like okay that is when someone just gives up and they do something for a paycheck well there was rumors that it was like a coordinated attack on the fans that he was like I'm going to show you fuck you if you like the last movie I don't know if that's true but well I could see it Todd Phillips he's one of my favorite directors ever and I had hangover well even before that yeah he just I don't know do you even know his first film

what is it I've definitely heard it before because when Joker came out I did like a little dive into him Gigi Allen documentary he made an NYU when he went oh really he dropped out of film school to finish it because the film school wouldn't want him to make it. Wow. It was, so it's pretty, he goes back. He, he, he, yeah, he's a madman. In our last interview, four years ago,

you were telling me about this documentary that you had an idea for about fetishes on Craigslist. You found someone that wanted to put your buddy in an oven and stuff. Have we made any progress on that documentary getting made? No, I wanted to make that in film school, and then I dropped out of film. I know that was your dream. But now it's like you're Darby Allen, you're climbing mountains. There's nothing you can't do.

Are you going back to the well being like, let's finish that doc? No, I actually want to make a full-length film, like an acting film. Okay. Yeah, because I already, I did this whole, I screen wrote this whole thing, and that's like my next mountain. Your next endeavor. Yeah. What's the vibe of it? Can you say?

Are you willing to say? It's a dark comedy. Oh, a dark comedy. Yeah, let's just leave it up that. Okay. Interesting. I was thinking recently about biopics, because The Rock's got the smashing machine out now about Mark Kerr, really good movie. If there were to be a budget unlimited to you, who would you make a biopic about in wrestling?

Oh, in wrestling. Yeah, who do you think would make for a really interesting movie? Probably Jake the Snake. Oh, that'd be a great one. Yeah, I think, you know, the whole thing is, like, really fascinating. Yeah, would you focus on a specific time in his career, or would you make it special? banding the entire I would do the whole career yeah because I want I don't want to just glorify the bad parts you know you got to also do the good parts yeah and I feel like everybody

likes to glorify like the worst I feel like the wrestler took a lot from his life right yeah VH1 behind the music when it's like then everything went to hell yeah I was like no I just want to be like yo like let's talk about the good stuff yeah that's why when we started our like fake band I was telling you about it barstool the idea was make one music video and and do a VH1 behind the music about our, like, nasty breakup. But people were like, oh, it's kind of funny, so we were like, oh, let's just become a cover band instead. But we'll get there one day.

We'll talk about that nasty, you know, guitar player was doing heroin. Someone got murdered, you know, nasty, nasty breakup. Recently, you did this awesome 15-foot coffin drop onto Moxley from the crowd. And I saw this angle of it where someone put it up, I think it was maybe a month ago, someone put up the crowd angle right where you jumped and it looked like a nasty fall what was the worst coffin drop you ever took question was that the one in uh scotland um i think it was that when

i did it to a group of people no no no just mocks so it wasn't no it was just mox and you hit him and went straight to the side and hit the floor and it looked just like oh um the worst coffin drop yeah what was the worst oh my god i'm trying to I don't even know. I think it... Yeah, I don't know. I have no idea. I was filming at my house one time.

I climbed a ladder and, like, I set myself on fire and tried to, like, cough and drop off the ladder, but the ladder shook, and then I, yeah, I'd say that probably was pretty bad, so it was outside of wrestling. That's insane. But, yeah, no. Why are you hitting coffin drops like that outside of wrestling? Was it even on camera? No, not.

Unfortunately not, I was, I was just messing around in my backyard that day. That's tough. You still have the ring in your basement? It's in my garage right now. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I had to make the basement physical recovery laboratory. Oh.

Yeah. So it was, that's where I do all, like, I got the ice baths, the saunas, the breathing machines, I got everything down there. Because you're now into the Wimhoff stuff. I heard you talk about that on Talk is Jericho. Yeah. And you took your dad with you to do the Wimhoff stuff? if you were, like, hiking in your underwear? Mm-hmm. We went to Poland and did all the crazy, met up with Wim

and did all the crazy challenges and stuff. And it was really, really grateful for that experience. It was amazing. How do you get in touch with him? You just, he's got those retreats. And it was his last one in Poland, and then I just went down there and drugged my dad along. And my dad's like, what are we doing? For the second, I was like, you drugged your dad.

Before this. I drugged, I drugged him and drugged him and put him on the plane he woke up and he's in his underwear climbing him out no but uh no I just dragged him down there and he's like what are we getting ourselves into but that that whole process was so magic

um it's the only time I've ever seen my dad cry yeah and it wasn't because he was in pain he was because when you do the breathing it's such a release of emotions and it's so like magical I can't even describe what it does and um so I'm really grateful for that experience because that's what I uh when I went there

like right before i left for everest i met up with tony con and i say hey just so you know you don't owe me anything like i'm already winning in life i i get to bring my dad to these amazing adventures i'm going to climb mount everest like you don't i'm already winning in life so like you don't owe me anything like so um it was just a great experience and that's that's the biggest thing that i take away from this whole last year with all the crazy journeys and challenges was just to be present and just be so grateful for the moment and everything that I have because I feel like a lot of people, there's just on to the next thing right away. And I really just want to stop and smell the roses and just realize what a life it is we're living here.

Yeah. You know what's so funny is that's such a flip from kind of the stuff you were talking about in our last interview where I was asking you about teeming with Sting and working with him and kind of bringing him back in the way. And you told me, you know, I can't stop and smell the roses. I wish I could. Yeah. And it's nice to see that you've gotten there, maybe through that you had to climb the biggest mountain in the world.

Yeah. It's a, yeah, I was just pulling something out of myself climbing that mountain that. That's like the funnest thing about doing things like that. Yeah. Where you're literally risking your life is who are you going to become on the other side. And that's like the funnest thing.

And I'm, like I said, I'm grateful because I'm essentially in the prime of my career and the fact that I was able to do that. Yeah. And get off this hamster wheel for six months and actually do that. I can't even. Did you feel like you were burnt out when you say like hamster wheel? Like are you describing a burnout or no, no, no.

Just because you live your life for other people. Yeah. Because this is, there's no offseason. Yeah. It's all year around for whoever knows forever. Yeah. And then it's just like, you know, by the time you get out of the hamster wheel, you realize, oh, there's so much I wanted to do with. my life that I couldn't do

because you're trying to make the fans happy, you know, the TV happy, all this stuff happy but at the end of the day you're not really making yourself happy. So that's like the fact that it's like Tony and AEW like, no, do what you want to do. fulfill what's

in your heart. That's like the greatest thing. It's unreal, yeah. It's fucking insane if you really really think about it. The freedom, yeah. It's insane. And I know you wanted this to be Mount Everest, the journey, to be like a spiritual journey like find yourself and really like hone in on that at what point in the journey did you feel that was fulfilled was it when you got to the summit was it the journey

itself you were like I feel what I'm here for it's when I got to the summit because when I was climbing day of camp four to the summit day of the actual summit there all sudden was this gnarly line that we didn't move for an hour like a little bit of a traffic jam we didn't move for an hour and I see people running out of oxygen I see them like their adrenaline stops and they start to freeze like you know screw this like I'm I'm not going to die on this mountain yeah because you start to see people like start convulsing up there and I was like how am I going I was like I have to make to the summit because I gave everybody my word that I was going to summit and I put so much into this that there is that thing called summit fever where you literally are so

fixate out making to the summit that you will die trying and i fully had that like there was nothing nobody could tell me to turn around at that point um but i stuck with it and then made it the summit i start crying and i was like man like i did it like i yeah uh that's when i it really hit me that you know i know getting down's considered the hardest part because you spend so much energy getting up yeah but i was like at that rate i was like an adrenaline dump up there as well almost before you go down is that part of what makes it so hard no it's just because you you're so fixated on making the summit that you expend all your energy and you don't even people don't have enough to get back down so then that's when they kind of take a break and they sit off to the side

and then their body really starts giving out because you got to keep moving that's the thing is you can't you can't really stop up there for too long because you're on that oxygen yeah and you know also the weather and stuff like that it's so unpredictable how long does it take to get from the summit back down to base camp i know the whole journey is like over a month to get up so i rushed it because i was like feeling good and i did it in a day and a half oh wow yeah but normally it's a lot longer than that and then once you get to base camp is the journey over you're still going down a considerable amount like hiking yeah after after you meet reached the summit coming down base camp yeah we hiked through some villages and i jumped in a helicopter and took off

It was, yeah, I was, yeah, I didn't know how I was going to feel, because that's the thing is, like, when you, when, you know, I keep thinking, how am I going to feel when he gets to the summit? It's like, I don't know what to expect. And I like that, because I don't want to go in there with some perceived notion, like, this is what I'm going to feel. And all I, all I could do is cry. Yeah. This is incredible. Did it put, like, a mountain climber bug in you where you're like, what's the next summit I'm going to hit? No, not really.

But I just, like, I love climbing the mountains because it's literally just you and your thoughts on that. mountain yeah because you don't have a lot of distractions because on a day-to-day basis if you get distracted you can run away from your problems so quick whether it's like looking at your phone or you know whatever it is that you do to distract yourself from what's going on in your head but when you're sitting on that mountain for days on end staring at the wall and you have to think about everything you know climbing that mountain i thought about like middle school high school yeah being homeless in the car all this like i just thought about like i just thought of like the whole journey of life you think of like good responses to arguments that you

should have said yeah but it's just but then you start to you know then you start to think about all your your former like friends and everything like how's everybody doing yeah it's gnarly because like I thought about this this one friend I didn't know for years I was just like whatever happened to this guy you know from high school and then I climbed the mountain I came down and I he doesn't have any social media so I didn't know how to get in touch with him and I finally got in touch with him and i was like dude i've been like trying to like i was thinking about you on that mountain like like what have you been up to and he's like well i just got released from prison and i was like what happened he's like i stabbed my mom and a few other people no and i was like what do you mean

you stabbed your mom and a few other people like what's that even mean and i was like that's when i thought some things are better in the past yeah you weren't like let's grab a coffee dude no i miss you but no but that's the thing is like you just started to think about things up there and you just you just really like I said it forces you to stop the smell of resin yeah did you like almost in a meditation type way did you feel like being alone with your thoughts like that absolutely absolutely because I meditate all the time yeah I heard you talk about that as well yeah like I do yeah TM meditation and you know the breathing and just putting yourselves like in environments where it's like so out of your comfort zone because that's the thing is like I feel like the more

you can break down the mental barriers in your mind the more it's just stronger you get as a human being and the less crap you want to put up with people yeah because you know like you're worth and you know like what it is that you're looking for in life and you said you talk to rick reuben about that yeah yeah because like i went down to his place in malibu and i was like what's the one thing that keeps you grounded as much as possible because you know he's done so much in his life that i'm like some so a lot of people that has that kind of you know that he's done so much would have such an ego and such a big head but he's so grounded and i was like what's the one thing that you contribute to that and he's like oh i had tm meditation and then i asked him and he

sent me up with a school and you know the david lynch foundation they had a program where there's schools all over the country but i went to one in alana and it was that was incredible so i do that i do it like twice a day and i do my wedding stuff so yeah it's just staying as grounded and level headed yeah that's fun and is that also like when you're on everest is there a factor of like i I've got to keep my adrenaline down as much as possible, and you have to make sure. Everybody assumes I'm just an adrenaline junkie, but that's so not the case,

because that is the most slow, tedious thing is climbing Mount Everest. It's just like, it's like baby steps. Were there moments on it, though, where your heart's pounding, like, I might die in a second? When you start to see dead bodies, yeah, because you realize, like, oh, how did, what happened here? Like, did they just, like, you know what I mean? It's crazy.

Like, what happened? Like, did they just like, because when I was coming down from the summit, I've pushed my body through a lot. But when I was coming down and I'm like rushing that. Like I said, I got down a day and a half. Yeah. When I was like, like, going down, I literally was like, oh my God, I'm about to black out here. And I was like, am I blacking out like because I'm fatigued or am I actually dying? Like you can't tell of that right because your mind's in such a fog.

And your heart starts pounding then, right? Yeah. So I literally just like take my down suit off and I put my face and hands in the snow just to cool down because at that rate the sun's beating down at you and you're wearing this down suit which is extremely hot yeah and you're just like man it's like oxygen tanks and stuff like that well you have no yeah you have the oxygen tank going down you have the oxygen tank essentially from camp three up got so um yeah no i was just like man i'm cooking in this thing in my but am i tired or am i dying i you can't tell you know what i mean yeah so uh yeah i'd say my heart was

pounding at that right yeah what's the most you've had your heart pounding in a wrestling setting like before you're about to do a crazy spot I would say just in general Sting's last match just that whole day yeah stink because I'm always like stings like I'm like really calm throughout the day

Stings are like what's wrong you see him on edge today and I was like dude you don't understand like we only get one shot at this you are not the guy who's going to come out retirement like you're literally when you say you're done you're done and if we go out there and crap of bed like literally it's just

we're going to have to live with that so I feel like it's my duty to like make sure that this goes off you know the best of this ability you know so I was like I was pretty on edge that day yeah you had to be happy with the result though right yeah yeah I mean it's awesome as much as like I was like I'm not doing a whole lot except laying in this glass yeah I mean that was also as soon as I went through the glass the uh the ref ran up to me like Tommy how are you feeling I'm pretty good. I'm pretty good, actually. And he looks down, he's like, dude, your insides are hanging out.

And then we got you out of the back. I was like, there's no way I'm going to the back. I was like, I literally got one more spot, tape me up. So if you look at when I pop back up and I push one of the young bucks off the top or up through the table at the very end, I'm duct taped up. And it's like, wait, where did you get duct taped? And I was like, just the doctor's. So, but everything was like great.

Like, it worked out. And yeah, so I have no complaints on that. Back when I interviewed you, I asked what your favorite match in AEW was, and you had just wrestled MJF and said that was your favorite at the time. You were like, I think just we proved, like, the pillars stole the show that night. Has that changed in the last four years? Do you have a new favorite match? I'd say Sting's last match.

I know it sounds scary. Yeah, I was thinking that when you were talking about it. Yeah, yeah. I think just because the emotions were so high. And it was just, yeah, it was great. It was magical that night. It was fun. And I saw you just wrestled against Sting's son and his debut.

In a tag match? Yeah, that was at my art show last week. Oh, that was at the art show? Wow, how did that go? It was great. Did you feel like pressure in the fact that I owe it to sting to make sure this goes well? Well, no, because, you know, I just owe it to myself at that rate because I was training his son for the last year. Yeah.

So I just felt like, all right, let's like, I don't know. Is that like extra pressure? You feel like a coach as well? Yeah, yeah. And I have, you know, pretty high standards. to like what we do you know and i'm just like but that that art show the thing cool about that i was explaining the step and i was like you know a lot of people aren't even going to see your first match because it's like kind of this underground thing and there's no video of it you know there's clips

online there's there's clips there's clips of the match but there's not the full match yeah so you know i was like hey man just like try to get out there and like feel it you know as much as possible you know like nobody's really going to see this which that's the good part you know yeah so Because, you know, sometimes you see these people make their debut on live TV, their first ever match. And it's horrible. Yeah. And you're just like, you're like, oh, my God. There's a reason why people train and, you know, grind the indies.

Yeah. It's like you have to, yeah. When someone tries to take a shortcut in the world of pro wrestling, it shows. You could tell. It shows. You could tell very quickly, yeah. Do you see yourself after your career is over going into training? and coaching? Do you enjoy it?

No, I do, but I don't. I honestly just want to disappear from the world of wrestling. Really? Yeah, yeah. It's not like I don't want a whole lot to do with it when I'm like retired from the in ring. Interesting. Yeah, it's fun to see people like, you know, coach people, but I couldn't. I don't think I'd have the patience for it with the egos and stuff.

Interesting. Is that like a decision you made like recently? It's five seconds ago. Five seconds ago. No, I just, I, yeah, no, I just, I don't know. I kind of want to just disappear from everything. Yeah, like I just want to, yeah, just live a personal, like, private life. Make movies?

Yeah, make movies and just disappear. I don't know. It just sounds fun. I don't want to be one of these guys who's clinging for the spotlight. Yeah. You know, like, pay attention to me. It's like, dude, I'm at peace with whatever happens. Fair enough.

I do a rapid fire segment with all of my guests. Is this the finale right here? No, not yet. Not yet. The strongest wrestler you've ever been in the ring with. Claudia. Oh, Claudia, really? Yeah.

Funniest wrestler you've ever met. Funniest? Yeah. I would say Sting, actually. Really? Yeah. The stuff he says is so random. You know, I wish, now seeing photos of him at Comic-Conn's and stuff,

I wish he rocked that beard in his last. match that beard is awesome the white hair sting it's like the white walker sting so badass yeah just embrace it uh the stiffest wrestler you've ever been in the ring with brodie king oh shut up brodie king i you know i did this segment with him pretty recently and i think he said himself yeah uh the best technical wrestler you've ever been in the ring with zach saver junior oh wow good answer and finally the most painful finisher you've ever taken in the ring painful finisher oh my god i don't even know there's got to be something

you've taken a lot probably when i got dropped on my head from moxley or something i'd probably say that yeah yeah i remember i was at an evolved show years ago it was cody his debut evolved show actually job of Maryland No it was in Queens That wasn't his debut then

No it wasn't his debut No you're right You wrestle Chris Hero in Queens Yes It was the Chris Hero Gargano was in that match And you were on that card I think against Brian Cage

And he threw you into the barricade that night So hard I couldn't believe it Those spots like Did you have a worst Thrown out of the ring spot It was at Evolve When I got dropped Over the top rope

I got back dropped and then my back of my knees caught the guardrail and then I flew on top of my head you know the reason I would always do that stuff is because I when I was growing like training and wrestling I really didn't my the style of training was like all like the basics just done right but I didn't know the independent style like the fact like you know with false seas and stuff so I was like man I don't know how to I don't know how to wrestle against these guys I was really intimidating so I just had to rely on getting murdered but then that ended up being the biggest blessing because no one sold no one was selling on the independence so like yeah the fact that like i was like oh here's the guy who sells the whole time that's what i feel like really because if i was just the hundredth guy to do a canadian destroyer yeah i would just blend in with everything yeah but the fact that's like i'm just selling it really made me stand off do you think that is like what what made you stand out absolutely and that's why i translate i feel like so good on live tv is because i like to sell and

But, you know, it's, yeah. Does it annoy you when people will throw the criticism at this generation of wrestlers that they don't sell, considering how much you focus on something like that? I don't know. Honestly, the less people will sell, the better for me. True. So I don't know more for you. I don't care what anybody does. I'll just do what I do.

The spot recently with the Maltoff cocktail, the taser, the pepper spray. I saw people tweet, and it was like you hit the unlimited weapons cheat code. GTA was that all your idea uh yeah yeah I know it's like I wanted to just a little bag of like crazy stuff and it and just because you think about I'm constantly outnumbered so I'm trying to think like what can you do yeah to even the odds and that's like all right pepper spray I've been pepper sprayed a couple times in my life and that is no joke and then the taste in pepper sprayed a couple times I lost some challenges challenges what does that mean oh we just that we have all these like challenges like challenges

where if you lose you got to get pepper sprays jackass no just like we we'd play trivia and then the losers yeah we don't lose against peppers break but uh so like we did that uh and the taser's no joke so i'm just thinking like but i've never got a maltov cocktail thrown on me yet so um let's hope not yet yeah let's hope that's not the next art show yeah someone shows up with a maltov cocktail or side of the road concert yeah it's but no it's just i'm thinking of that stuff is no joke yeah so Yeah, so it's just even the odds. Yeah, no, I loved it. I thought that was frigging great.

What have you been listening to recently, music was? Oh, man, all types of stuff. Literally, all types of stuff. Because it's funny, I'll listen to, like, some obscure punk rock, and then I'll listen to, like, Cat Stevens. Really? Yeah, I was supposed to see Cass Stevens last week in Philly, but he couldn't make it.

He couldn't come. And I was so sad because he's been, like, my... I was like, man, I got to see Cat Stevens live. I wouldn't expect that, like, I think stereotypically, people would just expect punk, hardcore, rock and roll. I love all types of music. You fuck with, like, Nora Jones sometimes? Sometimes, yeah. Really?

Yeah, like, I think that'll shock people. No, I just, yeah, I don't know. I, you know, like I said, like, the biggest, though, bands that I'm always, like, a massive fan of is, like, you know, these old anarcho bands like crass. Mm-hmm. And, like, you know, the mob and everything like that. these old, like, just early 80s, late 70s, punk bands. Like, they're the ones that kind of, like, speak to me as a human, but then I also love Tom Petty and Cast evens.

Like, I don't know, I just, yeah, I love all types of music. Have you been going to concerts lately? Well, yeah, I went to that one on the bridge. Well, yeah, yeah, and other than that, yeah. Yeah, you know, yeah, I've got to a lot of concerts, actually. Cool. Yeah, a lot of concerts, but I love going to country concerts. Really?

Kenny Chesning and stuff. Get out of you. Yeah, it's fun. Wow, I'm learning a lot of new stuff about you today. Yeah, I have a good time. What about movie or TV-wise? Anything you've been watching lately that? I don't have a TV at my house.

So, like, I honestly don't, I don't even have any streaming services. I just watch music videos and skate videos. You're such a movie like, you want to make a movie so bad. Yeah. You don't watch movies? I do, but I don't at my house, really. You go to the movies. Yeah, sometimes.

Gotcha. Sometimes. It sounds like you don't go to the movies very often. sometimes so you haven't seen anything lately no no i haven't nothing nothing lately that's like new that's came out no all right fair enough you should see a couple movies this year weapons sinners one battle after another there's been some good shit i have no idea what you you haven't even heard of those movies sinners sinners yeah it's like one of the biggest movies of the year michael b jordan ryan cougler made it he made the creed movies black panther it's sick

vampire movie. Cool. You'd probably dig it. Weapons is another fucked up horror movie that I feel like would be right up your alley. Yeah, maybe, yeah,

I don't know. I'm just so out of the loop. But I think, to me, like, ignorance is bliss. I kind of like just, I don't know. I don't know what's going on.

Do you have a timetable for when you want to make your movie? Honestly, is it like you've got to wait to ask for some more time off? No, I wouldn't ask for time off. I would just do it on my office. Okay.

Yeah. Time table-wise to talk. hard to say it's hard to say i would love to do it in the next year and a half yeah yeah would you act in it as well i don't know maybe if it like if it came to that yeah otherwise i kind of just want to get all my crazy friends that aren't actors to be in it yeah because i always like that i like that energy i'm like just be you and i'll make the parts that best feel for them yeah i like i feel like uh you know if you you got an unlimited budget a biopic a biopic about your life and wrestling career would be pretty interesting

Maybe end with a big summit scene. Yeah, maybe. Maybe. I think it would be sick. Thank you for coming in. I appreciate it. I'm looking forward to the DCA.W comics. You know, I'll update you on the lore if you need any, like, history, backstory.

Keep me update. You and Green Arrow. You and Batman, something like that. Thanks for coming in. I appreciate it. Can I go through the table now? Do you really want to go through the table? It's a 10 a.m.

Oh, my God. Well, there we go. What an ending to the. interview, the Harvey Allen through the table. You good? He's good.