My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 478 - RETURN OF THE BEERS (WITH DANA B AND KLEMMER)

Episode Date: January 8, 2026

The Basement Boys are joined by both Klemmer and Dana Beers this week! Klemmer and Robbie announce a new show, Dana watched 'Return of the Jedi' for the first time, and Clem gets into #ConformityGate and Sebastian Stan as Harvey Dent/Two-Face! DRAFTKINGS: Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app now and use code BASEMENT to turn $5 into $300 in bonus bets if your bet wins! **************************************** My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike! Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basement GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER, [phone] or visit gamblinghelplinema.org (MA). Call 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Please Gamble Responsibly. 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), or visit www.mdgamblinghelp.org (MD). 21+ and present in most states. (18+ DC/KY/NH/WY). Void in ONT/OR/NH. Eligibility restrictions apply. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino & Resort (KS). Pass-thru of per wager tax may apply in IL. 1 per new customer. Must register new account to receive reward Token. Must select Token BEFORE placing min. $5 bet to receive $300 in Bonus Bets if your bet wins. Min. -500 odds req. Token and Bonus Bets are single-use and non-withdrawable. Token expires 2/1/26. Bonus Bets expire in 7 days (168 hours). Stake removed from payout. Terms: sportsbook.draftkings.com/promos. Ends 1/25/26 at 11:59 PM ET. Sponsored by DK.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement and a very special edition of My Mom's Basement. That's a little bit of nerd news, a little bit of announcement focus, a little bit of Return of the Jedi with Dana Beers. We were on the journey with him for a new hope and Empire Strikes Back. He just watched Return the Jedi for the first time. We've got him on. We've got Clemeron. It's a stacked episode, Clem. Very special, very special, special guests. Very special. Very special. Yeah. Dana, there's one word I can.

could you use to describe my boy Dana Beers. It's special. I don't think it's the first or last time he'll describe this special. And Clemer, not Clem, if you don't know, we also work with a guy named Clemmer. We'll be joining the program in just a few minutes to announce a new show coming to the My Mom's Basement Channel in 2026. Very exciting times in the basement right now. We just had 10,000 views on our last episode, Clem, and we're keeping the momentum going. Five digit, the five digit club right off of the new year. Not to brag. If you look at the My Mom's Basement this year has more views on YouTube than part of my take, spitting chicklets and the Ryan Rusillo show combined.

Combined. My mom's basement. Lights have never been brighter on here on YouTube. Yeah, shout out everyone who watched and is subscribed actively and is planning on subscribing after listening to us here. We're going to try to keep it going. I've got lofty goals for this year. I wrote them down.

I want 20 million views on YouTube this year. In 2024, we did 10.2. million. I think we can almost double that and get to 20 million. I'd like to hit 75,000 subscribers by the end of the year. Currently, we have 59,000. I'd like to hit 100,000 followers on TikTok. We're at 58,000. And you know what I want? I want some sponsors that want us for us. That's what I wrote. I said, not just we're here sponsor Barstool in all of their shows. I'd like some comic book sponsors. I'd like some basement focus sponsors that can show why we're keeping the lights on. That can show we can provide some money to Barstool.

as well. So like it's when instead of like when they feed all the different podcasts, you know, that aren't part of my takes, like they basically just get the like little seed that they throw at the chickens. Like we're going to get like food actually poured into our bowl specifically for us. I think yes. I think that's the way to achieve, you know, success here at Barstool where it's like we'd like to see you guys go out and get people that are specifically interested in your show. I think we're going to find them this year, Clem. I feel it. I believe. at this time next year, I want to go into Portnoy's office or be a text message that he doesn't answer for four months and be like, Dave, I want you to quadruple my salary because of the numbers

I don't even want that. I don't even want a text message. I had a text message, Dave. My contract just went up. Just want to let you know whenever you have a moment. And three months later, he said, hey, Clem, and we discussed it there, two sentences, done. I'll take that the rest of my life as long as that contract gets signed by the money man. Absolutely. So shout out, again, everyone that listened to the last episode. I have an interview with CM Punk that's currently on the channel. It's doing well. And if you're not into wrestling, it's not really a wrestling-focused CM Punk interview.

We talk about his new horror movie, which features Dermit Mulroney and Justin Long and a bunch of people who you might recognize. It's a cool, like, vampire cop movie, really cool stuff. We talk horror movies the whole time. So check that out and make sure you subscribe. I've got an interview with Becky Lynch and Seth Rawlins dropping on January 20th, the day that the new season of wwe unreal premieres which i got to see very good stuff i think people will love it and the interview itself even better than the season you're going to love that i you hit me up and was like oh i got to check out the new unreal it's really good and i'm like wait they're doing another one and it's

this quick and i got to tell you i'm jazzed up bob i'm jazzed up it got me fired up i still haven't dove back into wrestling as a whole but i told you it had me listen to all these podcasts about stuff that happened 20, 25 years ago when I did watch. So give me some more. Get me into the grabs, right? The graphs, exactly, yeah. What does CM stand for in CM Punk? So it has stood for many different things.

There's no real clear answer. He made the name when he was really young. And I think when he was super young as a teenager, backyard wrestler, it probably stood for Chick Magnet, which is kind of funny. At this point, the most commonly used CM abbreviation is, Chicago made like Chicago made punk I think he's kind of cool badass people always bring signs with it CM punk Chicago made punk I think it's cool and he actually had a lot of thoughts on the Stranger Things finale as well we get into that during the interview oh

if he either loves it or hates it or has a conformity gate take tweet that motherfucker oh I did it's phone off it's going everywhere that I did not see it first clip that I made it instantly did like 10,000 favorites on Twitter and you know at this point Twitter that's like as mincy would say a mega viral baby can we just talk about mincy real quick i'll tell you man mincy is yeah we again i don't know if there's i don't know how many people listen to the basement that don't know barstall stuff but our co-worker mincy my former big scream at hawkers teammate is on a journey to the fiesta bowl that is worthy of like a road trip comedy honestly it is and it's like if you're watching him from home or as a co-worker i'm like i don't know if it's

supposed to be mad about mincy sad about mincy i don't even know the emotions i'm supposed to happy for mincy because he's a nice guy it's just he makes you feel i don't know he's like he's a wrestler that i don't even know if he's a heal or a face i don't know what he is he's just an agent of chaos is what he's honestly mincy supreme if you've seen marty supreme we're currently watching a mince version of that movie where he will do whatever it takes to get to the It is the Fiesta Bowl, right? I have that right. It's in Arizona.

So, yeah, yeah, it's Fiesta Bowl. He's treating that like it's finals in Japan. It's whoever I have to screw over to get there, whoever I have to. People are saying, Gryft, is he grifton Rigsie boy? I don't know. But it is a hell of a journey to follow along. But I'm going to watch.

Yes, yes, for sure. All right, let's get into this segment with Clemer. And on the other side, we'll be back with Dana Beers. All right. Welcome back to My Mom's Basement. You've heard of Dumb and Dumber, but you've never seen Clem and Clemmer. First time ever in the basement. Clem and Clemmer and Clemmer with a K is here to announce a new project that will be coming to the My Mom's Basement Channel in 2026. The first episode will actually air next Thursday. I believe it's January 15th. The project is Super Critics. Wemmer, you want to tell the audience a little bit about super critics, especially being it was your idea. Oh, okay. We did it together. It was a collaborative idea, but you came to me with it, which I thought was cool.

Yeah, I wanted to do a project with you for a while. I was trying to think of the best thing to do. And I was like superhero movies. So you ranked all your Marvel movies. I was like, I'd like to locate your rankings. I thought it was interesting. And we talk, we both love comics. We both love, I love a more of a DC guy than a Marvel guy.

you're more, what do you say you are more? Would you say at this point? DC Comics, Marvel movies. Okay. I kind of feel like. I mean, my favorite is, of course, like the Dark Night and Batman and all that kind of stuff. But as a whole, I think I'm more of a MCU guy at this point, yeah. So in the office, we talk a lot about comic movies, comic books, and I was like, why don't

we just rank every superhero movie ever? And we'll start at the top, so 1966 Batman, and we'll just keep going. We'll go through the Tim Burton Batman's. We'll go through the Christopherie Superman's, we'll go into the beginning of Marvel, and just keep going. And some of these movies I haven't seen, some of these, most movies I feel like I have, but I'm sure there's a lot I haven't. Oh, there's a lot I haven't, just putting together the list that we've been putting together, which is also going to cause controversy right away, because I'm going to say we're ranking almost all superhero and comic book movies. There's a lot of weird technicality ones that we feel just don't fit the spirit of what we're doing here. So like Road to Perdition, is it like a DC graphic novel?

And like Richie Rich is based on a comic character and a history of violence and men in black even. There are certain ones that just I feel don't fit this criteria. So if it's controversial, we'll let people vote on it. We'll have it talked through. I said we could send movies to the phantom zone where we say, all right, we acknowledge that's from a comic book. But we're not fucking recap and, you know, swamp thing returns or something like that. when we get to it. But on the other side...

We'll cross that bridge when we get to it. We will do the original Swamp thing, of course. And on the other side, there are movies like The Rocketeer or... Spawn? The Spawn count? Spawn counts. Like, Rocketeer has no real IP, but we'll do that. It's a superhero movie. So, like, we'll lean more on the superhero side of things.

If we do Road to Pradesh, that might be, like, my number one overall. But that's not a superhero movie. That's totally what we're doing. but yeah i think i think that'd be fun now yeah we get if people vote on certain movies if we have a real like arguing like oh like which one should be should we do this or not like have people vote if they want to have us talk about or not i think be fun and do one a week and then have it be a kind of like sycical inebri type show where we're being critical we'll talk a little behind the scene stuff if we you know a little bit of history of the movie and i know

what do you think like 15 30 minutes each episode i was going to say food or episodes don't picture you know a long sprawling podcast or anything like that we're going to try to keep it tight keep it snappy keep it fun i think it will be fun i think it's going to be a lot of great movies a lot of things that give people nostalgia and make them want to rewatch things a lot of movies maybe like swamping or flash gordon i've never seen that's on the list maybe people will want to go back and watch it for the first time or maybe we'll recap superman four and people will be like i can't believe how bad this is it's so bad it's good and you know we'll be able to show some clips from it hopefully we're going to talk to legal make sure that's all okay um but it should

be good. I'm really looking forward to it. I think it's going to be a fun project and a fun little side show that the channel now has weekly. I think so too. I think it's be fun just like kind of going through these moves, ranking them to like, all right, Super 4. I've seen it. It's terrible. But is that worse? Is that worse than Supergirl? Is that worse than like some other ones we've seen? Or, you know, so I'm very interesting how that list shakes out and kind of what we end up having for like a top five or a top 10 or what have you. And I'm, I don't know, I'm pretty, I'm pretty excited also to go through all the Marvel movies. There's some I haven't seen. And then also to go through them with you, who is such a fan. Like, I'm kind of excited, A, to argue with you

about them. And then B also, like, kind of like, let me into that world a little bit with a Marvel world. I don't have a ton of knowledge about it. We'll get to that in, like, 2027, though. So don't get ahead of yourself. I know. I know. This is quite, it can be quite a project. We are doing, I will say, we are doing Howard the Duck. Yes. Yes. I said Howard the Duck. I said he's and guardians. He shows up in the final battle and end game. I actually haven't seen the full movie. I've seen clips from it over the years. I feel like every documentary about George Lucas at some point will show you a clip and be like, here's where he went wrong. I'll see that. And like I think that'll be really fun to recap. And hopefully we'll get some guests. We're going to

try to do it all like in person. I think it'd be fun to get guests from the office. And also, if it takes off, it'd be fun to get, you know, a guest from the outside. I had CM Punk in the office this week. And we talked about random obscure horror movies. What if he liked, you know, Superhero Blade 2 and wanted to talk about that for some reason. I think it could be, you know, a fun platform for them to come on and talk about things they never talk about as well. Clem will have to get you on to talk about whatever superhero movie we talk about when you're in the office. Yeah, I'll have to like take a bookmark and be like, all right, this one, like Howard the Duck, I will make sure I'm out of New York State

that day. I hated that movie as a kid. It, like, terrified me, like, haunted my dreams and it was just like off putting um that was before like just a critical claim of it was just like as a little cause like i do not fucking doesn't no there's a uh bathtub seen with a duck where their tits out yeah unbelievable we get to it that's what you have to look forward to on this show this is a kind of great quality we're bringing to my mom's basement channel and don't i mean if you want to get really off the rails here like ducks have a corkscrew penis and i believe it's kind of is it Leah Thompson who's the like yes girl and it's kind of

like if she looked in to fuck Howard the duck and that's beastiality across species shit so a lot of questions again I feel like it's the Dennis Rodman like I went up here and then I went over there and then over it and I don't know which way I'm looking right now and a bit of a Mr. Crabbs meme but Clemmer did mention

it'll be fun to argue about he said I think you will see some arguments because there are some things where I feel like our taste is so aligned we could have the exact same like you could put us in two different rooms and say, what do you think about this movie? And we'd hit all the same buzzwords and be right on pace. And then there's some things we disagree on completely.

And I'm excited to see where we lie along the way. One thing we brought up on this show, not superhero movie related, but movie related. This guy's got signs ranked above a new hope on his all-time film rankings. Signs are five-star classic, which I thought it was a good movie. Again, I don't want to put down this movie. I thought it was really good. But above a new hope, Clemer. All right. So let's dial this back over. I've seen your video, your clips, you and Clem, laugh

and having a good time at my. We were pointing to it. You're pointing and laughing at you. Which is fine. Laugh away, laugh away. So I have, I think I have 36 movies I've given five stars to on a letterbox. I don't give a lot of five stars or four and a half stars. Like four is usually like max. And then if it's something's really great, four and a half five. I love some. I think it's a great movie. I will say this, though. Rob me Fox. How many Marvel movies have you given five stars to? I said there's like probably like three or four. So I'm guessing you have those above some movies that people would consider to be all-time classes. Yeah, like the Godfather, which insists upon itself. Yes, yes. Where do you have that? See, I've never finished it.

It's a DNA for me. I've tried to finish it a couple times. No. That's insane. But I'll tell you what, Infinity War, I've seen a thousand. Yeah. What's that? Eternal's not so bad.

I mean, I like the Eternals here, but the guy who can't finish the Godfather is now singing the praise of the Eternal. And Godfather's like my number two, maybe one movie behind maybe Die Hard, but it's two very different films. Yeah, this is going to be fun because Clemer, he's a narrow man. The Clem is big, the Clemer's thin. But like trying to push Clemer off his take is like trying to push me off of my spot. You're not moving him. He is stuck on his hill. He will die on that hill.

million times over and but Robbie is also like the guy who loves everything so this is a very interesting dynamic you too there's great but there's also when you guys are like vibe and and both love something that could be fun in its own right so I'm kind of interested oh yeah oh yeah and most Batman thinks I would say was pretty old on I think like Superman were pretty locked in too Superman pretty locked in as well yeah I think there's some five-star classics they're really are. Clever, you're going to have to get those where you're like biting your life and be like, let him have his moment.

The listeners know, Robbie. When I'm crying, talking about a Robert Downey Jr. performance, you're just going to have to sit there and take it. I might be crying, talking about Incredible Hulk, but they would ignore it. Volume two of Stranger Things. People were like, if Robbie likes this, like, if Robbie doesn't love this, we're really in trouble right now because everyone's banning it and he didn't love it. And also, I do love, like, I obviously follow your reviews and how the current movie you're reviewing where it fits in your list and then seeing the ones above and below.

And this is, you know, obviously a different version of that, but it's the same kind of thing. So you guys have the list going the entire time. So what's the first one? Superman's the first one? No. No, Batman 66. I'm sorry. Yeah.

So that'll be the first one. And then whatever second, it'll be one or two. And then you're growing from there. Yeah. Yeah. The first stretch is really good because it's a lot of Batman. Superman, and then you've got Flash Gordon in there as well. We'll have the lists, like, actively going.

I'll have it on screen for, you know, we'll show it at the end of every episode. We'll show the updated lists. We'll also have them on Letterbox. So we were also talking about, you know, what scoring system do we want to go with? I wanted to leave the one through 100 to Project Big Screen that feels like their branded thing. But I said, we own the IP for the Ball Scale so we can go through five. So on Letterbox, we'll basically just go by the Letterbox scale. It's the ball.

Don't you give letterboxed that they don't have an E. They don't have an E between X and D. They're edgy like that. Fuck that. Glennie Balls has no time for that bullshit. They should pay Glennie Balls royalties. Yes, exactly. We stole your grading system, buddy.

You've actually missed out, Glenn, by the way, on a big argument this week between me and Clemer, basement-related. Kind of nowhere, pretty much. He's like, Daisy Ridley stinks as an actress. She's horrible. And I said she's got a bad. agent clearly she's been in nothing since star wars murder on the orient express i think a random tom holland movie a bunch of movies that go like straight to streaming horrible movies no doubt but i said she's not

a bad actress i said she and adam driver were what like brought up even the bad parts of the sequel movies he he hates this girl he's on a vendetta to ruin her life so she's in a new movie right now called we bury the dead um which is a zombie movie not particularly great takes itself way too seriously she's horrible and she has to carry the whole movie and she just can't she has no charisma no personality on the way he talks about her do you hear this like it's uh she's almost like a no dynamics it's like a flat person like just like this is like nothing to her and she's royalty you're talking about what's royalty royalty royalty you're talking about in these star wars movies that the force away i enjoy the last two are trash and i know i'm sure

some people watching this i love those movies yes clever i'm with you on that one, but that's a whole other conversation right now. She stinks. She's a big reason why they stink. She's a big reason why the zombie. More, murder or experience. That movie stinks anyway, for sure. I'm with you. I'm with you. But she doesn't help. She's in like a minute of it. He's no personality. She's like if water came to life. She's like, oh, that's a person. Yep. She's a human saltine, essentially. Water came to life. Nothing. There's nothing to work. She's so bland. She stinks. There's a reason she doesn't get work, Rob, because she stinks. That's not why she doesn't.

and get work. She just had a bad agent. I think she has a great agent. I'm surprised. Anna Daormis has a bad agent. She's not a bad actress. No, no, no. The fact that Daisy really gives any word proves she has a great agent. This guy. This guy. Like maybe go into a different field, architecture or something. I'm sure she's a lovely girl I can do other things. The best part is the reason Portnoy is into Star Wars is because

of how much he loved Daisy Ridley and Clemer hates her guts, which the Clemer Portnoy rivalry dynamic is one of my favorite things. Oh, I'll send this clip to him. Go for it. Go for it. He'll be here. I'm the one guy in this office that isn't afraid. Send away.

That is, Clever's like the one guy who really does. Again, stand his ground no matter what. Yeah, the deputy. All right. Clever. Well, I'm excited for our show. So what do we say?

It's going to come out Thursday. Thursday, yep. Next Thursday. And then we'll put a list out. of all of our movies so in case someone like like a next 10 movies say because we know yeah and we can put out so it's when you haven't seen you want to catch check it out like um and that way you can always kind of watch movies along with us which could be fun i think it'll be a lot of fun absolutely clemer thanks for joining thanks boys later that guy knows nothing about daisy riddle absolutely

nothing about daisy ridley what's he talking about wait till he just the little beats and the robbie fox things you have to like just massage or make into a bit so you can get your jabs in without them noticing it'll take them time but clemm and clamor you're going to have a much different experience with that one than me i'll tell you that before we get to our second guest of the episode dana beers talk a little return of the Jedi you want to talk a little bit of nerd news a little bit of conformity gate club oh baby by the time this airs the uh coolie drinkers will all be dead in a circle right yeah i mean i mean Yeah, at this point, I guess at the point of recording,

we're in Schrodinger's secret episode territory. Yes. They both exist and doesn't exist. But come on, we were just saying before we started recording with Clemer, we've always been the secret episode, guys. I would even say we've been the secret episode podcast. Pretty much since Wanda Vision. I think that was the first one where we said,

okay, they're doing a secret episode, Dr. Strange and this and that. The calendar and the heart on it. Yes, Mephisto, all of that. Honestly, a lot of very similar things to what is going on with conformity gate right now. Little production mistakes that we took as there's no way they made a mistake, right? That has to mean something. We've done it with countless shows. I think we did it with the show that will not be named because we were so dissatisfied with how they ended with that.

Stranger Things Ends, and we do a great episode about it last week. Thank you to everyone for listening to that. I loved talking through the entire finale for two hours, and we probably could have talked for another hour. It was just very fun to talk about you put out the poll good great me bad I think what was it 12% was voting bad or it was a very low percentage voted bad everyone else was was pretty happy it seemed and then you go on Twitter in the the days after our episode came out and conformity to gate felt like it was trending worldwide 24-7 with everyone picking apart every little detail what it could mean secret episode different languages morse code

advertising material from season four Netflix to their credit I think leaned into it when it's like you look up conformity gate on Netflix and stranger things shows up and little things like that it's been crazy on those Twitter streets Clem we said it last week but it's gotten way crazier so first of all Bob obviously goes out saying if conformity gate turns out to be true. Edit this all out of the podcast to leave it forever. And do that on anyone know that we were just making fun of these morons who turn out, we're not morons, are actually profits.

I hate to say this. And listen, I know we have listeners who are big conform to people. I don't want to offend you guys. The shit we were talking about the Wanda Vision felt a lot more concrete than this. Oh, it felt that way. I'm sure we were to a certain portion of the population. I'm sure we looked at this crazy. We looked just as crazy.

to our to our credit though this was also a lot like a lot weirder back and forth trippy stuff you never knew what was real yeah and we were also in covid so our brains were destroyed by a world around us going upside down in a one season show the first marvel show the first like streaming show like that we were like maybe they'll try something crazy a series finale and honestly bob i saw the video there might be more videos but i've seen a couple of them i don't really think there was anything really there and my 11 year old daughter who i love and for the people that heard the volume two recap can tell she loves the show more than life itself she was crying when it was over she was she's still convinced she poor girl doesn't even know upstairs she's probably going

on netflix at 8 p.m or whatever expecting it to come up and i it's like i'm going to just have to be the crying shoulder as the dad yeah you know you give her that speech about acceptance yes exactly you got to hit one of them and i do think it is an age thing so listen i wanted to bring this up on the show i know someone who works at a school and they said what did everyone's think of the stranger things finale so there were some teachers who were in their say 50s and 40s there were a couple teacher assistants in their 20s and there were kids who were middle schoolers so around sienna's age 11 12 years old thumbs up thumbs middle thumbs down so kind of good me bad every single kid thumbs down both the t a's in their 20s middle all the older people thumbs up and i've said this feels like

a generational divide we're happy with the happier ending now granted you're a little younger you're in the 20s but you're also an old soul and i we were very happy the way they wrapped everything up and we liked the epa lot a lot of the kids didn't like the epilogue in the end and those kids are the ones who believe and kind of just want to believe conformity gate and then the ones in the middle probably don't care either way and i just thought that was fascinating and without any you know coaching or anything it was literally the old thumbs up the middle's middle and the young's thumbs down i don't know what it means bob but it tells us something about this world we're limited does it mean the kids are under vectus minds this is exactly what conformity gate would say uh and i Just so a variety says it's out. I'm like, well, that's the leak that they have to throw you off this because we'd be saying that if it was. Oh, yeah. And some of the little things that people are like, well, we didn't see that.

Well, we didn't see this. And the Morse code in this, it really did feel like maybe Stranger Things was what pushed me over the edge to growing up because I was just shaking my head at all of it going. I can't believe people are buying into this when like we said, we were literally the same people for multiple shows in a row. And I'm not ruling out that I'll ever do that again. Like, I think there will be another scenario for me where I'll be like secret episodes coming for sure. But again, maybe it was because we were so happy with the finale, at least like as happy as we were with it where we were like, like what would a ninth episode do as well?

Like they get pretty happy ending for the most part. So either you wanted more of the main cast to die, which would be a crazy thing to come back for. after giving them happy ending or you wanted it to be even happier you wanted them to double down L survived and you go into her and Mike and you do a 50 minute epilogue about them 30 years from now you do like digital aging not even de aging you do the Chris Evans and game shit I don't know what people want I agree with you too where I didn't see I saw a lot of the videos I didn't see what people were saying everyone at the graduation is staring exactly at the camera

I didn't think they were Also the camera was like on the stage Where they would be staring There was little things like that Someone who's wearing a Duffer brother shirt in the background Yeah it's an Easter egg like They've been doing those since season one Every show has little Easter eggs like that

There's you know in the background of Deadpool and Wolverine You've got Liefeld's foot parlor Or what I like These are Easter eggs Not little things that the door has changed 10 years ago The door handle is on the left now it's on the right.

That's like, what are we talking about? Yeah, of course. There's little production mistakes over 10 years. Or they got a new door. I've lived in my house now since 2012, so 13 years, it'll be 14. I'm getting new doors in a month. Shout on new beginnings. They're coming down.

We're going to have new doors and so on. That's not an Easter. That's just like. It's conformity gate. Klemphority gate. Klemphormity gate. Confirmity gate, confirmed. Confirmed.

Honestly, this is what I want for conformity. If I could like, so I wouldn't be able to do this all because I'm not talented or have like the actors to do it. I wish I could just make an AI video and be like, here's conformity gate. And it's eight hours long. And it's all the stupid ass shit that people wanted off screen. And first of all, it's two hours and it's just Max and her going to summer school and working hard to get the credits from this. That was a plot hole. She shouted she graduate.

She was in a coma. I don't fucking know. you don't do a couple electives because a demon put you in a coma and we can we do a couple summer schools and a couple of night classes boom there you go where was her mom and we just see max's mom waking up in the morning going to work doesn't realize show the 80s they're like yeah what were the other plot holes see what susie's up to which he's in a Mormon family in the Midwest and probably already has like seven kids and three husbands who gives us shit so the max thing was crazy how did she graduate it's like is that really what we're picking up for here I shouldn't have graduated. You know, the teachers would be like, ah, he's failing, but he's a good kid. He's trying real hard. I'm going to give him a D plus in fucking physics of chemistry. And I had good teachers and I appreciated them for doing that. They would do the same for the girl that was in a fucking coma because of a demon. Okay. If they had someone go to the school and say, she's been through a lot, they would have risen those grades so she could fucking walk, especially in the 80s. And that's the other thing, too. Like, even if she doesn't graduate, she walks. And then they're like, you're going to just finish the shit over the summer. And what? whatever like every grade or almost every grade unfortunately has a kid that gets hit by the car has a serious injury or something and they miss a lot of school those kids somehow walk and it's all said and done so again just that would be my conformity gate would be the most boring shit or the

biler stuff if we're going to have biler happen i guess that yeah true that's what people are i'm saying what are people wanting duds right that that's what i buy the stuff well then it's like oh well i'm so sad because michael and l you know michael lost hell so wait Michael, if Elle's alive, then he's going to break up with his girlfriend to then be gay lovers with his friend. So then Elle just lost her boyfriend. Yeah. So what are we rooting for here? You're taking a plug out of one thing and plugging it into another.

And it's like we don't have power over here now, though. Yeah. Listen, we're not the guys for it. I'm sure there's conformity gay people out there that are cursing their screen right now. You guys were supposed to be the chosen ones, the secret episode podcast. You ran diet. I'm very happy with the fact that we're getting a documentary. I think on the 12th, it's dropping.

I love that behind the scene shit. And it looks great. I really wish they dropped that tonight. And I know that's a troll move by Netflix. It would get a lot of heat from the people online. They tricked us. They made us think. It's like, I'll be honest, I was going to do the old YouTube, click, click burger

or the clam. Oh my God. This is how you get to click bait, put the YouTube link and a little screen grab of someone that looked like it. But I was like, I don't want. at the conformity gay people I think they might have a Venn diagram

with the you know what the SV The SWIFTys? Oh no no no no no I do think there is some overlap In the comic book realm yeah yeah yeah Yes yes So I mean you bleat me out Last episode

They found it on Twitter And the guy says you guys take this in your mom's basement they're like the season one demigorgans like you got to turn every corner looking for them at every moment they could smell the blood they smell it on you I think the documentary

is going to have me weeping like a baby by the way from the trailer like oh that'll have me cry yeah that'll that'll have people I think more than the show I think it's more like the real life actor saying goodbye is really sad when they're like reading that and weeping and the you know little clips in the trailer

oh thousand percent And listen, I'm actually kind of happy conformity to get happened because I know what it's like to get into those kind of things and get fired up. And I'm happy like this next generation is fired up. And it's going to lead to another show. I mean, Samman did it a couple years ago, which unfortunately was one of the shows we were not watching. But I would have loved, I want that to happen. I want a secret episode to come for the shows. Maybe Mr. Wonderful.

Never know, right. We'll probably all end on that. You're right. There's someone out there right now that wanted this to happen. That's one day I'll write a show to secret episode. I'll figure it out, yes. And that'll be great. I'd like that it's now in the universe,

even bigger than we did it with Wanda Vision, and it will happen to another fan base. And hopefully it's a show we watch whenever it does that. So good for them. Again, you're going to have to come with, again, I was in, I guess,

1996, I was 14 years old, Tupac Shakur was taken from my life, and I believed every single thing about Machiavelli and 13 and 11 and all the different numbers that added up, and he had faked his death, and if you listen to the album and this and that and all the hits were there there was a it was a geocities page which for the old they know what i'm talking about it was like basically a wordpress page where you could get your own free site and it had like 150 things of how tupac is alive and i was like oh tupac's alive it's just a matter when he comes back well 2025 either he's still hiding or he died at some point in during his hiding he's just not here guys and i think so you're saying you believe with l but not tupac yes exactly

I do believe with L. Man, I just thought that was such a nice way to wrap it up. Me too. Like, I can't believe it's controversial. Yeah, I know. But I guess Sopranos, like, we're still talking about that to this day. People are still going to be talking about stranger things years from now. Maybe that's the sign of a great ending.

Being controversial. Or the worst ending ever about it. It's going to say, not the Game of Thrones level of controversial. But just admit you want to hit that 50-50 polarizing. Oncina split. You want to hear that. Let's go L. L sucks, Chang. Yes, yes.

The only other really big news topic I wanted to discuss today before we bring Dana on is it looks like we might have our Harvey Dent two-face in the Battenson Matt Reeves epic crime saga. It could be the winter soldier Sebastian Stan, which would be very interesting considering we just speculated on Scarlett Johansson playing his wife. that would be a winter soldier reunion, two Marvel A-lister's joining. It's already been brought up that the Batman Part 2 and Secret Wars will shoot on different continents at the same time. So we got to be a little bit worried about Bucky going at the Doomsday, maybe, if this is true.

That's a fair point. I mean, we all thought the same thing, right? like, hey, good for Sebastian Stan, but can, and listen, same, Scarjo. Like, you don't need to just pick from the same pool of actors. We've got a bin of action figures right now for sure. And you don't have to bring, you know, Wolverine in or Hugh Jackson's going to then be the next one cast in the Batman and whatever. And Jackson, I'm picturing Wolverine, Michael Jackson now.

I said Jackson. I thought you said Jackson. I was thinking Wolverine with the he he claws come up I don't know man like again Pedro Pascal was taken like we have to just try so I agree with that where do you feel he falls on our discussion of like is he too famous to transition I almost feel like he isn't still even though he is like he's pretty a list in terms of the MCU I would say 1 to 5

or A to F I guess we'll go Okay, A to F. He's like a I think he's like a C plus B minus so You can get like you can't do Robert he's right on the line Can not go there Chris Evans Like the original Avengers cannot go there

Yes And if you're gonna do with the original I guess Scarjo and Renner Are the two who are kind of like Oh yeah they're in there too They like she dabbles in that She's very close And now it seems

like she's gone i mean she could show up in secret wars too and i wouldn't be shocked but like it seems like at least it's like she closed that book and opened another and she's not hopping back and forth now what would you do this all right who would be a bigger like out of place for you if hell like hemsworth or evans in dc or mark hamill because then you're dealing skywalker you're dealing with luke skywalker which isn't even a hamill in dc yes i think that would work weirdly like i've i've said on the podcast before i think mark hamill is like an mc u doc would work like i weirdly view him and with that ball cut with those goggles like i feel like i could see that he has that over the top

exaggerated voice um he's the joker would be weird yeah he's the joker most iconic joker voice of all time hamsworth would be too weird i think he is like probably the big three in terms of the mc u i can't see crossing over even patinson we were saying when he was having discussions with marvel he would be too weird because he's Batman. I am excited about the, like, potential of him and Patinson on screen together, Sebastian Stan and Robert Pattinson. I don't think they've ever been in a movie together. I feel like they're two of the top, like actors of their generation, their age range.

I think that could be really fucking cool. Also, depending on when you do the two-face thing, half of Sebastian Stan's face will be covered. And you know what? He's not going to have the long hair. he's not going to have yeah no you know that yeah that helps a lot that does that does help and like i saw him in the trump movie and i forgot it was bucky the whole time yeah so he he's really good i mean he played tommy lee and i was able to buy that as like a massive tommy lee fan which i also

felt like was impressive like chabre boulsman would have been impossible to see as any one impossible right yeah so there are some people and then like you said corn sweat sorry but you can't do the MCU if you're Superman. Yeah, no, no, no. That's you stamp yourself. Yeah. The Lex Luthor guy, what's his name again? Nicholas Holt.

He'd have to have hair. He was Beast. Yeah, that's true. He was Beast. And he pulled off Lex Luthor. Like, I wasn't like, oh, that's beast the whole time. So, yeah, it can work.

But I do think there's levels to it. And also, like, again, Hamill is different because he's not your Robert Downey Jr., but he is so Luke Skywalker, but he's also been off the screen forever, except for those terrible movies Clinger brought up earlier. Oh, I love, I hope that last Jedi gets brought up every fucking guy. Because, like, there were times where, like, I brought up last Jedi, like, 10 podcasts

in a row with you because it was burning in my soul. Yeah, listen, it's one of those things, you know, Star Wars fans get it. It's one of those things that it's like politics of Thanksgiving. Sometimes you treat it like, we're friends. We could just not talk about that. We can move on. Before we get into this segment with Dana Beers, let's remind everyone about one of our absolute favorites.

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Have you seen the new book? Michael J. Fox wrote a book about his time on Back to the Future called Future Boy. Just came out? I did not. Well, I guess I'm going to add that to some sort of a reading list because I'm looking for... It's very... Bob, you're speaking my language right now. The audio book on Spotify?

Yes. And it's a three-hour audio book. How about that? Clemer just let me the book. Actually, I have it now. Yeah, Clemer loved it. I am going to listen to the hell out of that book because I think the movies that made us, they did it back to the future, correct?

And I think I might have watched a documentary that I believe is not even YouTube or Netflix about it. But I'm still feeding it. So I was going to rewatch the movies that made us for it. And I'm like, come on, bro. You don't need to keep rewatching that. We need something fresh. I got something fresh.

You got it. All right. Let's bring on Dana Beers to talk about his first time. watching Return of the Jedi. All right, we're back with Dana Beers. What did we call you last time? Dana lightsabers, Dana, can't, can't, I forget what we called you. I didn't re-listen to the last segment we did, though, at least the end of it, your

predictions for Return of the Jedi, because I wanted to, you know, recap them. Finally, I begged you for months. Every time I saw you in the office, I'd say, Dana, when you watch and return the Jedi, we need to get you back in the basement. And you finally did it. I did it. I did it. I did it.

I mean, I've been putting it off for a while. Now I have many more, not even just Star Wars, many more movie, what's not a series? Like, what's the world? Franchises. The saga trilogy, Lord of the Rings, you could skip. I didn't skip that one. Really? Okay.

People in the office won't like that. Key Bob Wood would kill me for that. That's a Star Wars fan. There's a trilogy rivalry, been going back years now, Star Wars versus Lord of the Rings. You got to get that rage. and Cajun with you, though. T. Bob is going to fucking just love you for that, dude.

He's going to have so much more time. Even Harry Potter. I got to get a more Harry Potter game. Yeah. Harry Potter, I think, is way more like accessible than Lord of the Rings. I like Harry Potter. Lord of the Rings is boring.

They just walk. It's just a lot of walking, Dana. We don't like walking us bigger guys, you know? Just a long journey. Is that what it is? It literally, literally three movies of that. Yeah. Just journeying.

I'm not a fun journey. Listen, there's only one. return and it's not of the king it's of the Jedi what were the initial thoughts just broad strokes wise on return of the Jedi were you were you happy with the movie did you like it did you feel like they uh summarized the entire trilogy and wrapped it up well yeah i think um the end of the movie was probably my favorite ending so far um a lot of the a lot of the lead-up stuff i still have a lot of questions about um not a nearly enough chubacca what was going on you we didn't get nearly enough chewy he was number one on your power rankings last time he's my number one guy and we didn't

we barely got like that much chewy uh sound bites in this one but i mean you want to talk about the number one thing i got away from this it's princess leia man that's it he doesn't want to In 1983, every single nerd since 83, at least as far as I understand, I was born 15 years later, has had a crush on Princess Leia from Return of the Jedi. She's, you know, in the Big Bang theory and fanboys and all these movies that depict like a group of nerds. There's always a moment where the hot girl comes out in a Princess Leia slave Leia costume and all the nerds, you know, they go full Dave get fallen out of his chair back in the day. Where did that come from? like that outfit is that even allowed for a was a PG movie yeah i think it was because yeah this is pre pg 13 existing right i think it was PJ and jama just had the metal ready to

no underwear yeah in her size yeah in her size and everything and nothing didn't look comfortable you know it's not no it's not cloth it's metal and lumpy job was uh joba was just kind of he was grossing me out by the end like by the time he was killed i assume he's dead um he was just like stuffing stuff in his mouth and he's got like green stuff coming out it's just yeah i was kind of all set i was done with the job of the hot storyline get him out of my screen um and then the other there's two things that stuck out to me one was the the love triangle kind of had came to a conclusion and I still don't really

know if does he's does Luke still have feelings for his sister no it's a sister yeah but I think he still he was still holding their hand and like giving her kisses on the cheek and stuff I don't give my sister kisses on the cheek

not on the cheek you don't give kids what do you guys do like just a little hug and a kiss on the cheek hug okay hug well yeah fair enough I think that's more of a new York, New York, New Jersey thing. True, true. Okay.

Then the other thing, my MVP is where the Ewoks. Oh, my God. Yeah, you're a big EWalk guy. The Furbies, as he calls them. Furby. The Furbies, I love them, dude. They're so fun. I had a feeling you would.

They're so controversial. They literally, in 1983, there were people that went to see that movie and left going, the EWalks have ruined Star Wars. Everything about Star Wars is ruined. And then there are people that left it and went, I need an EWalk. I want to dress up like an EWalk. I want EWalk toys. I want EWalk stuffed animals.

I am much more the latter. I grew up, you know, you see this as a child. Ewks are the greatest thing of all time. What is the case for them being negative? The case is that the big bad empire who took over all of space in the end got defeated by like teddy bears throwing sticks and stones out of them. Well, you know, you got to be ready for anything in space. Also, that's their point.

Where was the land of the Ewoks? That's what I was kind of confused of that because they had the trees and the shit. Like, where is that? It's called the forest moon of Endor. So it's like a, it's like a moon planet. Okay. Is it the same planet as where everyone else is from? Or is it they just land there?

No, they just landed there. Because that's, that's where the second death star was closest to. So they had to get there to shut off the shield generator. It was just convenience for them. I was a big fan of the Ewarks. I thought the second that the EWalk was chilling with Leia, like on that stump, and they were both like a little, or she was super nice to the EWalk and the EWalk was a little scared. I was like, that's my guy right there.

That's my guy. I thought it was just one. And then all of a sudden there's fucking millions. I know. Wicked. Is that the main dude? Wicked. Wicked to the main EWalk. Yeah.

So is that your dude number one in the power? Ranking is the orange guy. That's my guy, yeah. I mean, Chewy's still there. He's still number one, but I would say the EWR's. He gets a good moment when he pops out of their ATSD, the big like Walker ship when he pops out of the top of that is a cool chewy moment.

I would say the EWX as a whole are my number two in the power rankings. Wow. Wow. Unfortunately, you don't see any more of them. That's the only movie where the EWalks appear. What is a dog? I mean, he's a dog. guy right he has to be a dog guy

because it's your fur your top two guys are both furry guys yeah you like furry guys yeah you like you're a furry so how about this job of the hut dead for sure dead in this movie but a little fun fact for you we have a Star Wars movie coming out in May the Mandalorian and Grogu that

will feature Jabba the hut's son who is a jacked buff gladiator how is that guy played he's also played by Jeremy Allen White, which is ridiculous. Like the guy from the bear is going to be calling orders. There's a big slug.

I don't know. How do that guy produce a son? I think Huts are like, I think job of the hut himself can just like get pregnant and have a baby if you want to do. I think the men huts can have babies, like immaculate conception. That's obscene. So, Dana, going into this one, I know your favorite guy other than Shui was gold guy. aka 3 p. You rode hard for the

What was the line that you had for? No, didn't like, didn't like, didn't like, excuse me. I liked Gold Guy. Second one, I said Gold Guy complains way too much. I'm out on Gold Guy. And now Gold Guy is continuing to piss me off. Now, he does get treated like a hero, though. Yeah, he gets, he gets everyone out of their sticky situation by acting like a fucking God. That was sick. your thoughts on Boba Fett after seeing how he met his demise. Oh, yeah.

Now you've seen, that's all Boba's appearance. He comes in, freezes on. I see what's happening. He doesn't even remember. Does he remember Boba? Yeah. See, Boba Fett's hyped up to this amazing level. He's so badass.

He's so cool. He's the one that takes on in the Carbonite. No, I don't even know who that is. I'm just thinking of the horny guy that dressed up as him. Yeah. Landon. Landon. see boba in that scene just meets his demise he falls into the little like pussy in the desert by the way would you think of the pussy in the desert desert pussy we didn't know that was oh i remember him falling in the pussy i didn't know that was boba yeah yeah see see quick demise it's like not a big death scene at all it's weird

so they brought they want to bringing him back he's not actually dead he comes back he crawls out of the desert was sick i think that whole scene was awesome when she chokes him out or two from downtown oh bang Bang! And I'm in a dream. Yeah. Yeah, that was an awesome scene. I like that fight scene. Oh, did you like the final fight scene between, like, Luke and Vader as well, where he brings up? He's like, your fucking sister and Luke goes fucking nuts at him?

Emperor is a huge pervert. He freaks me out. Yeah. He's his voice freaks me out the way he's just, he's a creep. Were you going to do an impression? Give me a little emperor. Come on. Give me a little.

I don't need. I was like, uh, hey, Luke. you should be the bad guy or whatever the fuck. That's good. That's good. Pretty much, yeah. I was, I was shocked that, that, uh, Luke's father, Darth Vader, uh, I was shocked when he turned into a good guy.

I was. I know. It's nice. Redemption. There's light in all of us. And he was, he was, he was so close to stay, sticking with the emperor. And then he just, boom. I'm a good guy.

yeah what did you think about the mask the mask came off and everything he got it looks like a comfy dumpy a little bit yeah a little i would rather i prefer he kept it on i didn't like that never meet you are you interested now like do the prequel seem more like a daunting task of people probably expect me to do this now that they like the first three or is it something that you're genuinely like kind of interested in i would say i'm definitely interested in seeing them don't think that I think correct me if I'm wrong these are like the three that are like the most popular is that true I wouldn't say that I would say the original trilogy that you just watched are the most popular but among like people are age oh yes yes yes absolutely yeah I thought

you meant the prequels I was gonna say people are age love the prequel yeah yeah the one you just finished yeah that I feel like if I were to start live watching or whatever the newer ones people wouldn't care as much i think the nostalgia effect is real well i will say that there's crazy nostalgia for the prequels because of people our age because these are the movies that like people our age grew up with they came out in 99 2002 2005 so it was like we were kids during this people go crazy over them now like i feel like the majority of star was memes on the internet are from the prequel trilogy so there is an audience there just me Why, oh, Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, Revenge of the Sith.

They're the one with Jar Jar Binks, who you thought you saw in the canteen last time. You'll finally get to see him. And you'll be a big Binks guy, especially if you like the EWR. Oh, he might be a huge big guy. This is my dude right here, Jar Jar Jha. Yeah, man. Oh, I'm gonna love it.

I like Bix. I'll tell you, if you want to talk prequels, there's a young Padawan there named Nikki Smokes, who I think might be his favorite movies in the world. I don't know if you want to not have that in your life. He thinks he's Anakin. It'd be, dude, it'd be fascinating to just watch the movies through the lens

of Nikki Smokes thinks he's Anakin. He's like, wait, what? He's a fascinating character. I'm Anakin. Speaking of memes and gifts, there was a gif in this one. It's a trap, right? It's a trap.

I stopped in my shoe. I stopped and I was like, whoa. I know that. I love that one. Admiral Akbar, his species name is Mon Kalamari. They're literally like, yeah, he's the fucking Kalamari. He's a little squid. There's an octopus.

You, Kalamari guy, Dana? You Kalamari guy? I just tried it for the first time recently. I liked it. I thought it was, I got it mixed up with caviar, where I thought Kalamari was the rich people, the rich people food. Oh, yeah. Let me see my notes real quick.

See what else I got going here. Oh, yeah, you took some notes on it. Wow. By the way, when Dana tweets these out of the blue, It's almost like when the Star Wars just goes on screen. It's like, whoa. I got dating a live tweet. It just hits you out of nowhere.

I texted Clem with the siren emojis. I said, lock in. Just a lot of love for Leah. A lot of love for the Ewoks. Yeah, Landau. Kind of a movie of two halves. Like the first half of the movie is about trying to rescue Han. And then the second half of the movie is like the Vader-Luc stuff.

Yeah. On being blind. Who? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm blind for a lot of the movie. He kind of got over it pretty quickly, though, right? Yeah. I thought he was going to be blind for it.

Or something. Nah, he's all right. Yeah, I really liked the ending when everyone was going nuts. I would have loved to been there for that moment. That was... Oh, was it a little bit jarring when Luke looks out and he sees like the ghost of Yoda. He sees the ghost of Obi-Wan. And then he sees the ghost of Hayden Christensen.

Who's that? that's Anakin his father but they digitally edited like the guy from the prequels onto his face so at the end of the movie

he looks yeah he sees like a really young version of his dad and from a shot from like 2004 I think you could be spoiling stuff right now

I know I'm not he knows he knows everything he yeah Luke I am your father I don't know if he's if he knows government names out

like I think I mean they reveal the government name for sure in the original trilogy. I think Dana might have been called him a gold guy or something at the time is what I'm saying. He may not know governments. He watches those prequels. He's about to

get one of the greatest surprises ever. The concept of spoiling movies that he just watched for him. Speaking of spoilers and if you haven't seen these and for whatever reason stop watching.

I didn't know Yoda died. What the fuck? Right. And And the way he dies is kind of just like Luke is nagging him with so many questions. He's like, I would rather die than answer these questions. He lays down and dies. He chooses. I mean, I thought I was going to have at least like six more movies with Yoda.

No. Well, the prequels have Yoda in all of them. So you go get at least three more with Yoda. And then, you know, 30 years later, they're like, everyone check out baby Yoda. And we're all in. take out our wallets there's been times where we've been in the room

with Portnoy where he would just do the Yoda disappear instantly you could tell when Dave's checked out of let me get out of here or even Frank the tank back in the day when he would take sleep shifts in the office

it was sometimes his mid-conversation now you can't get that guy to sleep he's running down the halls just talks about the Mets so that was a little shocking I wasn't expecting him to just kind of I thought maybe he'd get a jolt of energy or something but no

he just put his head down and he was like yeah I'm done with this conversation. I'm going to die. And your one prediction going into Return of the Jedi, last time we asked you for a big, bold prediction, you said, I don't think Obi-Wan's really dead, which he did kind of wind up.

He is dead. But he said from a certain point of view, he's still around. He's still talking to Luke and Yoda. He's still, he's a hologram still, right? Yeah, we call it a force ghost in the biz. All right, Dana. We appreciate you coming on. I love getting your takes on Star Wars. Listen, I don't want to put any of the pressure on for the prequels, but when you get to them, we'll be here. Absolutely. I will live tweet. I'll live tweet them. Yeah, all right. Good. Yeah, you must. You absolutely must. All right, Dana. Thank you very much. We'll talk to you later.

Thanks, boys. See you. All right. That's pretty much it for us today. It was a good episode. We did some nerd news. We did a new announcement, super critics coming next week. And we got Dana's thoughts on Return of the Jedi. Again, I like getting people's thoughts on, like, something that came out in 1983 that they've never seen. I love going back and getting a first time reaction. Can we just agree there's a chance he doesn't know that Anakin Skywalker is Darth Vader and it's not going to put it together?

There's a chance, I guess. Yeah, you're right. Because it's also going to be months until he gets to Phantom Menace. But, I mean, they explicitly say your father, Anakin Skywalker. Like, I was with your father, Anakin Skywalker. Even in Return of Jedi, they say Anakin. Oh, they do say Anakin, yeah. But you're right in that, like, maybe he just wasn't paying close enough attention.

So that might surprise him still, maybe. I, like, if you had to do a draft of people at our company who could be surprised by that after watching the original trilogy, I think Dan is in the top five, maybe three. I think Marty is the top three. Who's his boy? Marty, Nancy is up there. definitely um who else would be up there of watching the original trilogy but kind of being glennie balls but nah he watched the original trilogy he's seen it all he used to wear this millennium falcon shirt all the time i used to be like hey it's my favorite shirt

i we almost need to get dana the um which uh not toby mcgwar the other guy who did tofer grace we need him did the match oh yeah the super just one movie in and out get everything in and he can make his takes from there all right that was my mom's basement for this week the hashtag for the week is hashtag clemformity gate and who knows maybe by the time this comes out you've got your secret episode can we just mark it this is the secret episode yes this is the secret episode all right we'll see you next week