My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 49 - MATT SERRA, JIM NORTON, AND SUMMER RAE!

Episode Date: February 24, 2020

Robbie is bringing the variety this week with dual interviews - first, sitting down with his pals Matt Serra and Jim Norton from the UFC Unfiltered podcast, and then with Danielle Moinet (FKA Summer Rae) afterwards. Enjoy.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. I saw My Mom's Basement was actually on the charts, we got up to like 125, so that was cool to see. People seemed to dig that episode with Roan, we will definitely have more of those coming in the future, possibly as soon as next week but today we're gonna get right into it we have an interview kicking things off with Jim Norton and Matt Serra of UFC Unfiltered a podcast that I'm sort of a fill-in host for at this point and after that we will go over to an interview I conducted with Danielle Monet formerly known as Summer Rae I'll meet you in between to do some ad reads but uh let's get right into it. Okay. All right, you guys ready? You got it.

Hello, and welcome back to My Mom's Basement. I'm sitting here with two guys that I appreciate very much, two guys that I've actually never sat in a room with, the three of us together. It's always one or the other, right? Is that right? It's always bizarre. I'm a fill-in guy on UFC Unfiltered, and today I have the two hosts of UFC Unfiltered, Matt Serra and Jim Norton, on my show for the first time ever. Thanks for joining me, guys. Of course. Thank you.

I'm so happy to be here, and I did not realize that. Isn't that weird? That we were not in this... I feel like I'm giving my back to Jim. That's okay, buddy. It's like Phoenix Carnival. A lot of times, Phoenix will be in with Matt when I'm away, and Robbie's the same thing, so we like to try to get all three of us in the same room, but it's very hard to make it happen.

Yeah, so two congratulations in order to you for marab you had a huge weekend the machine your fighter you were losing your mind in his corner going viral all over the place screaming in his face like yeah they put that on so they put that on instagram somewhere yeah yeah you you're so happy for marab i mean he just with just – with that Casey Kenney kid was 6-0 in the UFC. Talented kid. He was a two-time division champion in, I think, LFA. I hope I got that right. But a stud.

Changed with the great John Crouch. He's got a lot of guys underneath him. And Murab just looked phenomenal. He looked really good. And I love the post-fight picture, the whole corner wearing the hats, the papakas, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Phenomenal. That was really funny. And congratulations to you, Jim, for the new special on Degenerates.

Thank you. I loved it. On Netflix, yeah. Degenerates is one of my favorites because it is like the brief. It almost feels like you're going to a comedy show and seeing a bunch of 20-minute sets. Yeah, I was so dumb. I originally was like, I'm not going to do it. And I'm like, what am I, an asshole?

Like, of course I'm going to do it. Like, it's Netflix. And it was 20 minutes. It was great.'m not gonna do it and I'm like what am I an asshole like of course I'm gonna do it like it's Netflix and it was 20 minutes it was great like I loved it the hard part now is going on the road I have to refill that 20 minutes back into my act yeah but I was really really happy so were you like you weren't going to take that and you weren't ready

for a special I guess you weren't that no they just wouldn't offer me a special believe me I would have loved to have done a special if they gave me one but the fact they gave me this I'm like I would have been dumb not to do it. And people reacted well to it. There's a lot of suicide material in there. And people were very – like a lot of depressed people reached out, which always makes me happy. That's my demo.

If you look at your belt as more than just an item you wear, I'm your guy. No, yeah. I think I'm definitely your demo in that thing. You're the king of Netflix this year. Between that and The Irishman, you got, what, almost four hours of content on there. It was really – yeah, yeah. But with me, there was only 20 minutes and 30 seconds of screen time, but it still went well. Was it more fun doing The Degenerates because your buddies were doing it too or no?

No. I was happy to do it with Bobby and I love Donald Rollins and I like Nikki and Miss Pat and Adrian. It was a good crew. It was really good, but I'm used to doing things myself. So it was weird. I'm not used to not making every decision as far as the stage setting. You get territorial. But that one I just kind of showed up for and did the material.

You guys filmed that all in one night? Yes. It was two shows. And we all have our own episode. But the crowd was great. It was Vegas. And I'm like, this is going to suck because I hate Vegas crowds because they're like tourists. But then they were like, no, this is three miles off.

And they were mutants. And I'm like, this is what I want. It's just these fucking locals that are mutants. So how long ago did Unfiltered start? How many years ago? Oh, fuck. I didn't know you just thought all these tough questions. Three or four, right?

I don't mean to grill you. I just don't know how you guys met. Yeah. We met earlier. When I was fighting, I did the Opie and Anthony show. Yeah. That's when I first met Jimmy. You know?

And I remember out of the three of them, Jimmy was the fight fan. Fair to say, right? And we took a picture afterwards. And then I ran into him again, either at the fights. I'd see him. And it was like, you know, hello, goodbye thing. But I always had a good, friendly vibe. And he was always such a nice guy.

I never watched those old Opie and Anthony shows, or listened, I should say, when they were happening. But I'll tell you right now, since I met him, I went back and I listen now. Yeah. To the old episodes with Patrice and Bill Burr and Louis C.K. And just the chemistry with Jimmy and Anthony. Oh, it's so much fun. I missed it when it was going on. And I was on the show.

I pretty much missed it as well. I was too young for it at the time. But now I go back and all the stuff with Patrice just cracks me up. But I think your relationship is hysterical because I think most people would look at your two personality types and be like, how are you guys friends? Well, you know what's weird? Like I remember I saw Matt. I was with one of my ex-girlfriends in Vegas. And I saw Matt at a table having breakfast.

And I'm socially the worst. Like I never say hi to people. But it's not to be a dick. It's like I just feel uncomfortable. No, I'm the same way. And you feel like you're going to be rude to them. I'm annoying them. I suck.

But Matt's such a good dude. I'm like, no, I'm going to make an effort to be like – because I like him. So I'm like, why wouldn't I say hi to a guy I like? And I wound up saying hello and we had a conversation. I'm like, I'm so glad I did that. Like I see a dude and I'm not painfully shy or stupid or awkward. And then whatever it was, a couple of years later, Dana just called me. And Dana is very to the point.

He's like, hey, we're doing a podcast. You want to do it? He's like, Matt Serra is on it and we'd love to have you as his co-host. Here's the money. Let me know. I mean, Dane is very blunt. Oh, yeah. And I was very happy, and we worked out a couple of minor things, and it was it.

It's a fun podcast. I really love filling in and doing it because we sit down, we have fun. There's not much prep involved and not for lack of care. That's like the flow of the show, and it's fun. There's not much prep involved and not for lack of care. That's like the flow of the show, and it's fun. But going into your two different personality types, Jim, you're kind of the rock and roll guy. Matt, you're kind of with me on the nerdy stuff. Oh, 100%. We haven't spoken since Episode 9 came out.

Oh, wow. That's right. Do you enjoy Episode 9? Oh, Jimmy, hold on to your seat right now. I know how you felt about The Last Jedi. We've talked about it. Way more than The Last Jedi. Yeah.

I enjoyed. But here's the thing. It was. This is what happened. J.J. Abrams got effed. I don't know how I could curse in here. You could curse. You could say whatever you want on this show.

He got fucked by. What's his name? Ryan Johnson. Ryan Johnson. I don't necessarily agree. Well, let me tell you why, though. All right. Dude, he got fucked by, what's his name? Ryan Johnson. Ryan Johnson, Jimmy. I don't necessarily agree. Jimmy, well, let me tell you why, though. All right, well, I hear it. How do you not agree?

Let's talk about it. And The Force Awakens, Jimmy, have you seen it? I have. Okay. Wait, is that a Star Wars film? Really quick. We meet Rey, right? Yep.

It's mysterious who her parents are. I can't wait to find out. It's going to be very exciting because they set it up. She must be related to Luke. Is she the daughter of fucking Han and Leia? It's all this mysterious stuff. Yoda's niece? We don't know who she is.

We don't know who she is, Robbie. And then, now they have this cool guy, Snoke. What is his backstory? Oh, he's mysterious. He's kind of like the Emperor, but different. Looks kind of fucked up. Wow. I can't wait to find out what's going on with him.

The helmet he's wearing. Everything down to even the helmet. Kyle Reign. You know, listen. Helmet's money. Legendary. Oh, my goodness. This helmet's pretty cool looking, too.

Okay? Now we got the the next one the last jedi takes the helmet ah why are you wearing a ridiculous thing he fucking gets rid of it uh fucking uh snoke is saying uh you know ah you know not snoke uh ben kenobi no kyle oh kyle is saying no you know your parents are guess what Guess what? They're nobody. They're fucking nobody. You thought they were somebody. They're nobody. Shit on that.

I mean, you know, it's horrible. So then Luke. What about fucking Luke with the lightsaber? Luke became a hermit. The guy with the most enthusiasm and faith and everything. I was talking about The Last Jedi now. I know we'll get to the new one. I'm sorry.

Darth Vader was his father. This is fine. By the way, this is one of the funniest things to look at our levels over here. Matt is the one in the middle. Oh, my God. It's funny. Am I sitting too close? It looks like somebody's heart before and during a coke binge.

Well, listen, I don't care about a lot. People get worked up over politics. I don't. I get worked up over politics. I don't. I get worked up over this. So listen, so Rian Johnson wanted to, oh, don't get me, oh, wait, hold on. Everybody, and I talked about this before. Everybody wants to be at that ooh moment now in the fucking mysterious moment in the fucking movies, like the M. Night Shyamalan fucking ooh.

I didn't see Luke's fucking footprint in the sand. Oh my goodness. He wasn't really there, Jimmy. Oh, come on, Matt. That was awesome. It's awesome for two seconds and then you realize, oh, he's dead. He died on a fucking rock meditating. He sacrificed himself for the next generation. Do you have a

boo button that we can fucking... I didn't see that. Dude, Luke... Wouldn't it have been way cooler? It's pretty incredible, Jim. I think you'd like it. I probably would. Yeah. Dude, Luke. Wouldn't it have been way cooler? It's pretty incredible, Jim. I think you'd like it. I probably would. I think you'd have to see it. I don't think.

So then anyway, I wish J.J. Abrams did all three of the movies. I think they definitely should have had more planning. They should have just had someone who should have done all three. They weren't written out beforehand. People, they can't say they were written out. There was no clear structure. But that's how the original trilogy was too. And it worked out great. I hate how it's going. They weren't written out beforehand. People, they can't say they were written out. There was no clear structure. But that's how the original trilogy was, too. And it worked out great.

I hate how it's going. Darth Vader's driving an Uber. I only like Darth Vader. I don't like any of his new characters, Matt. Go ahead, go ahead, Robbie. In the first one, Luke and Leia are a love interest. They're kissing. And by the third, they're brother and sister.

And it's a revelation. It's a little skewed, right? That made the love interest hotter. No, but the thing is this. It was creepy, but at the same time, it could be like, oh, he didn't know. What the fuck, man? Exactly. But those movies weren't planned, and they have the same sort of faults that the new ones do in that way.

But we don't – that we hold them in that highest – But the faults I don't think are as strong where they totally – oh, Snoke. Look, I made a lot of Snokes. Look, there's someone floating in a half a tank right now. So did you like the new movie? I did. I liked it better than the last one. What's the new one called?

The Return of the Goodbye to the Rise of Skywalker. You like Ray B and Palpatine? They went back on it. I don't like that the guy came back. I'm not a big fan of all of it. I'll be honest with you. I'm a fan of it. You like The Mandalorian?

You know that? I love that. All right, good. Jimmy, we talked about The Mandalorian. He does like The Mandalorian. Gina Carano? I think Gina Carano is great in it. I want to kick Baby Yoda

into a fan. I hate Baby Yoda. I saw one of your tweets about it. It broke my heart. It broke my heart. You could be contrarian about a lot of things. But I'm not even trying to be. No, but it's fun. It's a child's toy. I hate George Lucas. It's a child's toy. I know you hate George Lucas. One of the most quoted things

around this entire office among the Star Wars fans is your quote about him saying that he has a weak chin. He really does. He's hitting us. But the problem I have with it is it's all marketed to chill. I wouldn't mind Baby Yoda, but I know it's just a child's toy waiting to happen, and there it is. I just think – That's what Star Wars is, though. I know.

Jimmy's far from a hater because he likes other people's success. But I just think in this situation because he's just so cute and little cuddly he doesn't like nothing else cute little cuddly all right but let's flip it let's flip it on jim now we've talked a lot about star wars let's talk about rock and roll i'm gonna read some tours that are happening upcoming reunion tours and i want you to tell me if any of them are spiking your interest if you if you're out on them what what how you feel okay we got black crows motley crew rageue, Rage Against the Machine, My Chemical Romance, and then two that reunited a few years ago but have been doing the reunion tour thing for a while,

Guns N' Roses and Smashing Pumpkins. I'll say this. Motley Crue I would see one more time. I saw Motley Crue in 84 or 83 when they were on the tour with Ozzy for Bark at the Moon. So I saw Motley Crue. They were at my first Ozzy concert. They were the opening act. I saw Metallica the first time that way too, opening for Ozzy on the – with Ozzy for Bark at the Moon. So I saw Motley Crue. They were at my first Ozzy concert. They were the opening act. I saw Metallica the first time that way too,

opening for Ozzy on the, I think, I want to say it was the Ultimate Sin tour. I would see, of course, Guns N' Roses. I saw them at the Apollo. They were great. The Sirius XM show at the Apollo? Yeah, I was at that. And Axl Live is a thing to behold.

That motherfucker, his voice. One of my favorite things they did I think was the ACDC cover Of Whole Lotta Rosie As far as anybody else I've never been a big Rage fan I respect them We're smart and you're dumb We're smart and you're dumb

We get it and you don't I got it I'm so happy you're singing It's the first time you ever sang in front of me You're way more metal right I got it. I'm so happy you're singing. It's the first time you ever sang in front of me. You're way more metal, right? I am, yeah. Ozzy, I'll See When He Tours. Of course, The Sabbath Reunion.

I'm hopeful for that new Ozzy album. I love this. I've heard it. With Chad Smith. What do you think? I loved it. But then again, not to brag, but I heard it in Ozzy's house with Ozzy. He played it for me.

Come on. Yeah, completely bragging. But yeah, I loved it. Ordinary Manzzy's house with ozzy he played it for me come on i'm yeah completely bragging but yeah it was it was i loved it ordinary man that's that's a name drop that you gotta name i have to have to do it if you're in ozzy's house listening to ozzy's new album with ozzy you gotta tell me he hurt himself and then he just decided to do a new album i think he did it a month yeah and uh it was crazy about that with jim florentine actually oh yeah now as a podcast here and everything i think of jim uh you know because he's as big of an ozzy and sab and Sabbath fan as I am. So, yeah, I love the new record.

He did the one with Elton John. Under the Graveyard, I'm obsessed with. Like, I fucking love that song. So I'm really happy for him. So out of all those tours, which one would you say is the most exciting? Guns N' Roses should be the most interesting. They're doing MetLife with Smashing Pumpkins, actually, in July. I wouldn't know the Smashing. I don MetLife with Smashing Pumpkins actually in July. I wouldn't know the Smashing Pumpkins.

I don't care about Smashing Pumpkins. I don't care about Rage. I care about... Cut off at the 90s? Are you anti-grunge too? No, I don't. I respect it. Nah, I don't give a shit. I mean, they're good. I love Dave Grohl. But the bottom line is I was doing gigs. I started comedy in 1990.

So I was obsessed with stand-up. I missed the whole generation of music. I respect those guys. I started comedy in 1990 so I was obsessed with stand-up. I missed the whole generation of music. I respect those guys. That's why we're different. With all those bands, all the ones we named, you know the one I like the most? I'm going to sing it to you. I'll sing a lyric, okay? Do you want

me to sing this? Because out of all the ones he named, the one that he doesn't like, Flashback in 1979. he named? More than anything. The one that he doesn't like. Flashback in 1979. Brian Adams. Hold on. Cool kids never

have the time. Did I fuck up that lyric? No, no. That was right. So good, Jimmy. Doesn't it sound good? Well, I don't sing well. I don't like the tempo. First of all, that hurt. That hurt my feelings because I tried to Make it sound But god damn Nineteen seven

Am I too loud In this song Nineteen seven nine Do you have neighbors here No Nineteen seven Is it nineteen seventy nine The name of the fucking thing

Yep Oh my That song Jimmy When I'm driving around Long Island On the Long Island Expressway Listen to that Don't be calling me.

I'll put you right to voicemail. Yeah. Don't interrupt that shit, Jimmy. I get so happy. It's my feel-good song, Jimmy. I would rather see Guns N' Roses live. Sorry. You know, I saw them live a few years ago on the Not In This Lifetime tour when they came back with Slash and Duff.

Best show I've ever seen live was them at MetLife. And Lenny Kravitz opened, too. Lenny Kravitz is awesome live. I wish all of them were in the band. I know the drummer with Adler is a little hard. I think Matt Storm they might have had a falling out with. I'm not sure. I would rather Matt Storm too.

That would be so awesome. Frank Ferrer, their current drummer is incredible as well. It's just the reunion feel is better if everyone's there. Yeah, but it's like Tommy Clefita is playing with Sabbath. I love Bill Ward. I would take Bill Ward not playing as well as tommy just to see bill play but the drummers have a hard that's a hard fucking thing to upkeep after 50 years man is the drums yeah definitely all right i got some mma questions maybe some that you might have covered on this week's show but pretty generic ones that i think are on everyone's mind uh how did you guys have

jones and reyes scored i had the first three rounds for Reyes. And, you know, Jones won the championship rounds. And when you score it round by round, it shouldn't matter that Jones came back and had a good – it's awesome. It shows he's a champion if you're judging it as a whole fight. Like the old pry rules, how it ends and this and that. But you're not judging it. You're judging it by each round you take the score of

each round you add it up I felt that he'd done enough in the first three rounds so do you do you not like the mentality of like you got to beat the champ you got to really show that you beat him

no no no I do I like it but it does it but it that's not how we're scoring it though that might be the great attitude I go so back and forth because I like there's part of me that feels that way. Like, yeah, you've got to beat the champ to be the champ.

But at the same time, it doesn't make any sense. Well, I had a 50-45 Jones. A lot of people don't agree with my scoring. No, but I thought Reyes won it 3-2. But I also like the mentality of you have to beat the champion. But I felt like when you're judging it round by round, he did beat him. But you know what? Him losing is not a crime because Jones fought well enough, and he fought well enough in the last two rounds.

But it was that one judge that we talked about on Unfiltered today that Joe's, whatever his name is, 49-46, was just fucking disgraceful. We've seen the fight, though. So would I like to see it again? Sure. I think a lot of people would. But if the Jan Blachowicz this weekend, what he just did to Corey Anderson. Now, you could say, well, Corey Anderson did great with Johnny Walker, but he had some losses. And it's Corey Anderson.

It's not John Jones. Yes. But at the same time, look what he also did to Luke Rockhold. Look what he also did to Jacare Souza. Look what he also did for, I'm forgetting who the fuck else was the other one. Hold on. Give me two seconds and I'll remember. I'm not going to remember. Okay. But anyway, the last few guys

he fought now it's bothering me. I want to remember. But he's coming off fighting an impressive list of guys that are looking to put his ass to the floor. And are good at doing that are they as good as john jones are doing that i don't know maybe maybe not but cory anderson that's that

that's basically his bread and butter that's how he's won a lot of his fights luke rockhold on top is as as dangerous or as dangerous as anybody that's he's very dangerous uh jacare i can't jacare souza of course is a world-class black belt. If they couldn't get him down, that means, you know, John Jones might be having a hard time getting him down. So a lot's going to be decided on his feet. And you've seen the power that this strong Polish man has. Well, John was having a hard time taking Reyes down.

I mean, Reyes looked incredible. Even in the fourth, like when he was starting to gas, he was still having trouble. He was so strong. I mean, he's just a stronger, maybe he's starting to gas, he was still having trouble. He was so strong. I mean, he's just a stronger, maybe he's stronger than John thought he was, but he looked great defensively stopping the takedown. So you guys would rather see the Reyes rematch

right now or the John fight? Do you care? I'd rather see the John fight. I want Thiago Santos. That's the fight I've been screaming about more than anything. I want Santos because he hurt again, hopefully he's the same fighter when he comes back but he hurt both of his legs and still went the distance and was doing something to John

that I hadn't seen anybody do which was really fuck his legs up and he did he it was like wow that was a great strategy and he was doing it well I think he was really hurting John with that it would have been interesting to see him continue without being hurt I would love to see how that fight would have played out. Do you remember any committed takedowns he tried

in that fight? I don't know. Do you remember Jon Jones trying to put him down in that fight? I don't remember. I don't think Jones did. I don't think so either. I was there at that fight and I don't think he did. I think he wanted to test himself. I think, you know, I don't want him, I would hate for him getting I think what happened when he watched

Jon Belovitz his fight over the weekend I think something sparked in him where that pumped him up. Because I think he was getting bored in there, man. That's why he's trying to stand up. That's what a lot of people say. A lot of fighters have told me that. Thiago Santos, he's been taken down before. So it's like, Jon Jones switches up the strategy.

That's not that appealing to me. I mean, or whatever. I mean, listen, Santos is a stud. I'm not shitting on a guy. But before that, Dominic Reyes would be way more because people really feel he won the fight, more so than Santos, I feel. I feel that would be a better fight, but I think Blachowicz is the fight to make. Yeah.

Because look at the guys he's been taking out, man. And the Reyes rematch is there, right? You could even tell Reyes after this you get the winner. Get the winner, man. I'd Reyes rematch is there, right? You could even tell Reyes after this, you get the winner. Get the winner, man. I'd like to see him fight either guy. So, man, I don't know. I'm impressed with Blachowicz. And plus, Santos is not a viable option. I think he's still out. He's still hurt.

So, I mean, that just... There's weird fights that I want to see more than... You know what I mean? There's certain fights I just really want to see, and that's one of the ones I want to see. Did you say weird fights? What did you think of the Diego Sanchez fight? Oh, yeah. Good segue.

Weird fight. Yeah. He got good advice from his coach, I thought. Although I'm not sure how he saw it. I said, you're right. He did win the first round, and I realized he was talking to Diego. I'm like, oh, incorrect. How do you tell the guy he won the first round?

I don't know. Everything about that fight, the way he did the flip that started, the way he did the weird sprint in the middle of the fight, the DQ, everything about that was strange. So another MMA question. Just as fans, who would you like to see Conor McGregor fight next if it was up to you? Oh, easy. Justin Gaethje. No one I want more than Gaethje. I think that's probably the fight to make at this point with Masvidal wrapped up, Uzman wrapped up.

It's not going to happen. He wants Khabib as Houdini wants. Yeah. It's interesting. The Khabib thing worries me because Conor wants to be so active this year. At least he's saying. And to fight Khabib, you would have to wait until like November after Ramadan and everything. He wants to make millions of dollars.

Listen, I'm impressed with this guy just getting back in there and fighting because fighting is one of those things where if you have another means to make a lot of money and whatnot, you have to truly want to be in there. I don't give a fuck what they're offering you. There's always more money. I understand that. But on filter pulled you away from the KJ. No, no. I was out of there before that. That's funny, though.

Only Jimmy could pull me away from that gate. But, you know, it's just – I give him a lot of credit because I don't – because I've shit on the guy before about some things that I feel he's done that are shitty, which I always stand by. But to get back in there shows the guy's a fighter. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yep. Was that a real video of him that was out recently?

I don't know about that. I don't know either. I don't know if that was real or not. All right. I had each of you guys fill out like a sort of matchmaking, what is it, a Honeymooners game. Sure. I'm not going to lie to you. I didn't fill it out.

I didn't do the big question mark. I don't know anything. You got your answers. What I decided to do since it's our first time in a room, all three of us together, I'm going to ask you guys questions about each other. This is fun. This is fun, Jimmy. So, Matt, right away.

Okay. Yes. What type of music do you think Jim secretly likes? What do you think a guilty pleasure would be for Jim? Well, I mean, look. Everybody knows he loves Ozzy Osbourne. But I know there's a song. I don't know the music.

But I think there's a song that he listens to that he likes. He belts out a lot. So I don't know if it's a secret. What's a song that he listens to that he likes. He belts out a lot. So I don't know if it's a secret. What's the song? Sometimes when we touch... I don't know the other verse. The honesty is too much. We've never done that before.

We've never done that before. We've got to hug mid-studio. The people can't see it. They're hugging so much The table's shaking Now we have really Never sang together I will say this

I understand why You'd say that But the answer is incorrect I sing that song Yes Because I hate it so much Oh wow The guy is such a simp

Where he says I wanna Hold me till I cry Till we both Break down and cry While we hug Go fuck I hate that fucking

Dan Hill his name is boo I get why though I've never broken it down to you I do belt it out a lot but it's like a hate thing do you have a guilty pleasure you know

probably you know I like I'm a sap I like love songs very much fucking Take My Breath Away by Berlin

is a hit in my book Atlantic Star. Come here, let's make a family. I fucking love that one. Always by Atlantic Star. I like sappy music as well. Always on my mind by the remake by the Pet Shop Boys?

No, I would say the original by Willie Nelson. And I do prefer, I like Elvis' cover of that. I prefer the Pet Shop Boys. You are always on my mind. You think I could be a singer? No. Definitely not. Anyway, what's the next question?

Jim, what is Matt's least favorite body part? Matt, what would your answer be to that? Because I did write these down. On who? On yourself. Oh. Shit. It's either my double chin sometimes on my belly let me see

i'm gonna i'm gonna say i knew the answer to this i'm gonna say my i'm gonna say it's definitely not my cock no proud of my um all right i know this ain't a long show i will just say my fat face i thought this was gonna be his knees. What did you have down? Oh, is this – I wrote down his knee. Oh, I thought you meant like my physical appearance.

No, no, no, his knees. My knees are bad. I could have got that one right because I was just talking to Jimmy about my knees all the way over here. All right. So that's not Jimmy's bad. I do have bad knees. Awful. All right.

Next, I guess I'll ask Matt first. Yes. you didn't write these down so much so what do you think what do you think jim wanted to be when he grew up well i do believe they didn't have like um i'm gonna say probably a musician but i do know he was great at the game asteroids so when he was really little maybe he wanted to be like a professional. Like one of those King of Kong, Billy Mitchell. You ever see that documentary?

But I don't think I take that back. I'm going to say a musician. Okay. What do you have down here? The answer is a woman. No, I wanted to be a comedian. That's all I ever wanted to be. You probably only wanted to be a comedian.

From the time you were super young. Since I was about 11 or 12. Who was like the first person that made you be like, okay, I'll do it. Richard Pryor. I always wanted to be funny. I would write the first person that made you be like, Richard Pryor. Like I was, I always wanted to be funny. Like I would write stories in kindergarten that made people laugh. But when I saw Richard Pryor film live in concert, I'm like,

Oh, that's what you do with being funny. So yeah, comedian was the only job I ever really want. I wanted to be a lawyer at one point too, but that was still, it's still a performance angle of that, that as well.

Like Pacino, Justice for all. Oh, Justice for all. I think you mean Pacino when he was on stand and sent of a woman. No, I for All. I think you mean Pacino when he was on stand and scent of a woman. No, I did like that one.

Huh? Hoo-ha! Hee-hoo-ha! I love Philip Simoes. She has a great ass! Your sound waves are just flat bars at this point.

I'm sorry, though. Matt, outside of your career, outside of your career, so no podcasting, no fighting, none of that stuff What is something you consider yourself Naturally talented at? Oh, so it's not going to do with Jiu Jitsu either? No

Naturally talented at? Well, let me tell you something I don't know, speaking of asteroids I don't know if you've heard Of a little thing called virtual reality. Have you? We've talked about it. Well, this is what I want to tell you.

Now, I don't want to – listen. I don't want to brag. We're not talking about the fighting Hall of Fame stuff, what I did in that time in Abu Dhabi and stuff like that. When you knocked out GSP? Trig, all that shit. We're not talking about that. We're talking, Jimmy and Robbie, about, it's hard to say me. It's almost like, people like Superman and Clark Kent.

There's me, and I'm badass with all this other stuff. But then there's also the Kimura Savage, who's great in jiu-jitsu and whatnot. But also, he's my little avatar. He is me in the Oasis, in my Vive Pro, on the game Battlefield Standout Battlefield It's a battle royale Battle royale It's battlefield

It's not battlefield Battle royale It's like PUBG But it's in virtual reality Now There's thousands of people That play it around the world Ask my rank

Thousands What's your rank? I like 41 or something 40, 30 Get out of here Not bad For real? Not bad

Soon we're gonna go on Twitch with this. Yeah, you got it. And people are going to see my- We have a Twitch room at the office. We could link up every time. I don't even- Oh, we could play together? Oh, yeah.

Big time. Do you have a virtual- Do you have a Vive or a Quest? No, we can get one. You should. Yeah. Because I'm a bad motherfucker on there. And I enjoy it so much.

Jim, what did you have written down for what Matt would- Singing. Oh, that's a good one. That's kind of funny, though, because I've been singing before we knew that my answer would be wrong. I do like to sing, as we know, and your audience knows. Yes. Yeah. All right.

What do you think Jim's favorite movie is? Apocalypse Now. Interesting. It's not a bad one, though. Do you have an answer? Is he on base? I understand why he would say that, but... But no.

No, it's not. But you like it. I love it. I love it. That's a love. Okay. That's a pretty good guess, then. I would have to say, for many years it was Clockwork Orange, but I would have to say

One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. That's a good one. Good pick. And he talked about that before. Yeah. You know why? Why? I think he has dreams

of being that Indian and putting a pillow over my face. That's why. What the fuck? Jimmy, when I'm yapping and you see that voice thing go up to that,

look, he's just like grrr, grrr, grrr. Yeah, no, I would say either that or the third Spider-Man. It's called the McGuire. I can't even save that one. Even though the special effects were good.

I'm not a fan of the Sandman. Fucking fuck that guy. Really? I don't like the Sandman. He looks cool. I feel like if they did him, yeah, he looks cool. If they did it right, he would look cool. That guy looked awesome, but he's just, it's funny.

I like superheroes, but I don't like shit too unbelievable. You gotta go, they got sand. Yeah, sand. I have no problem with people flying and shit. You gotta catch it all over. He's dying. He jumps into a kitty litter fucking thing. I don't know.

Matt, what is your favorite flavor of ice cream? Easy one. I'm going to say chocolate. What did you have written down for him, Jim? Kimora. Oh, nice. Nice. I like Kimora. That's funny. I love, is there a Kimora. Oh, nice. Nice. Kimora, that's funny.

I love, is there a Kimora really a flavor? Yes. It could be, like your flavor. Eventually when weed gets legalized, that should be your strain, the Matt Serra Kimora Are you trying to say I'm high right now? I'm not trying to say right now. Well, I am, but listen to me. Maybe you enjoy the green from time to time.

Well, listen, I could blame it on my arthritis with my knees because my knees do fucking hurt me. But I kind of just like the way I feel on it, to be honest. Blame it on the knees. And my knees hurt. My knees hurt. And, you know,

I'm a very active, if I do enjoy that, you know, the reefer, I'm very active. Like whether it's... Yeah, you're not a lazy stone. I'm not fucking

blowing that shit out of the basement window telling my wife I'm looking for a job type of shit. I'm doing that. I'm fucking're not a lazy stone. I'm not fucking blowing that shit out of the basement window telling my wife I'm looking for a job type of shit. I'm doing that. I'm fucking rolling with my black belts. I'm teaching some jiu-jitsu. Is this thing going live, though? No, this is not live. What are you doing tonight, Robbie?

Coming to the Upper West Side. I'm going to teach a jiu-jitsu class at Henzo Gracie's. Nah, I can't do jiu-jitsu, man. What the fuck's the matter with you? I mean, I got herniated discs in the back. Oh, you're a young man. I know. You're an old soul, though. Yeah.

How old are you? 21. How'd you herniate a disc? Hockey when I was in high school. And I started going to physical therapy for it. Wound up never doing it. And then I went and played hockey a few days ago, a few weeks ago. And I guess a week ago and fucked up my back again.

You like hockey? All in shambles. I like your Batman tattoo. Thanks, man. It's a Jim Lee. Well, Jim Lee's fucking money. Is he one of your favorite characters, Batman? My all-time favorite character, yeah.

Are you excited about Robert Patterson playing the new up-and-coming Batman? I am. I'm actually really stoked. He was in – Robert Pattinson was in Sadie Brothers movie, the guys that made Uncut Gems. Right before they made Uncut Gems, like their debut, was a movie called Good Times starring Robert Pattinson. Oh, I've seen Good Times. That completely sold me off.

Yes, I love that. John Amos temporarily off to old Ben. Dino might. Go ahead, what were you saying? All right, we'll close this off with this question. Oh, we're done? Well, you guys. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

Jimmy's been on the air this morning with his show with Sam Roberts. No, we were off today, so it's just you and me. Never mind. Sirius is off. Never mind. We had the day off. It was nice. Which of Matt's achievements would you say...

Which achievement are you proudest of? Are you asking me or him? You first. I messed that up. Oh! It's on me. This is really... I just beat easy one for you

to be like i think he's gonna say frank trigg do you would you compare the two not well listen my biggest thing obviously would be would be the the first fight i say the first fight second fight didn't go well no i gotta bring i gotta bring don't even say the first fight just say the fight with gsp and we And we're confused. They might watch the second one and watch me get my ass handed to me. I don't want that. But we want to be a positive. We want them to not even know that there was a second fight.

Okay. You're right. I don't know why I bring that up. Why? Because I'm more humble than you think. Now you're humble. I don't think you're like, I would imagine he was a pretty humble guy. All right.

I guess I mean, listen, the GSP fight was my Rocky movie. So that is obviously what I'll say. But I think Jimmy might say Frank Trigg. Because I bring that up often. Because that was fun knocking out Frank Trigg. Oh, let me tell you, young Robbie Fox. There I was at the MGM. Never mind.

I'm going to say it would be GSP, I guess. I was incorrect. I said being the host of UFC Unfiltered. Oh, wow. What a nice note to cap it off. This is why I didn't fill it out, the thing, because I knew I... You see how witty he is?

Seems like maybe he has more affection for the show. He's taking the relationship more seriously. Well, I don't think he has more affection for one... I'm sorry, I beeped his nose. Well, let me tell you, this is what for one. I'm sorry. I beat his nose. You can't see it. Well, let me tell you this. What I will tell you that when we first started this, this podcast, I liked me initially and

I got to meet him. And now I'm not afraid to say I'm secure myself. I love Jimmy. Wow. That's really nice. I love Jimmy. Yeah. I love that too.

We have a very fun relationship. It's fun. He'd see, he gets, that's really nice. I love Jimmy. Yeah, I love that too. We have a very fun relationship. It's fun. See, he gets, it's weird. I'm a little bit more affectionate in this way because he starts to go, no, no, we're good friends. He almost tries to change the subject. We're friends, yeah.

No, no, no, because some guys are afraid to show their emotions. And you're looking at me as a big alpha. I don't know how you look at me, obviously. But I'm a very warm guy and Jimmy is one of my favorite people on the planet. And I mean that. But I'm a very warm guy and Jimmy is one of my favorite people on the planet. And I mean that.

And I'm saying that honestly. If anything would be to happen, no, because I know these fucking comedians are nuts. He would never do this. But, you know, we talk about different things and if anything was to ever happen to Jimmy,

I would be inconsolable. Well, thank you, man. For a long, I'm saying a long time. You'd better for at least one episode. I would feel it. Anyway, that's all I wanted to say. That was a really beautiful, beautiful moment to end the podcast.

Yeah, well, listen. That's nice, ain't it? Yeah. I'm not always that zany character. If you would like to listen more to Jim Norton and this lunatic that is Matt Serra, check out UFC Unfiltered every Monday and Wednesday. It's on iTunes. It's on everywhere you could find podcasts.

It's on UFC Fight Pass. Yeah, if they want to see the video of it. Everybody keeps asking me. They slip into my DMs. I don't know when they upload it. I know that the most recent episode, whenever this is going, we had Henzo Gracie was in studio with us. That's great. And Jan Blachowicz and also James Krause were both on Skype.

So I love the Skype feature. We get all the fighters on. And it's just a little bit of an easier. There's always that. I hate I'd much rather talk in the room because there's not that hesitation that there is even. But it is what it is. So it's better than just phone calls. Oh, dude, it's much better.

So much. The phone calls were tough. Cowboy would call us with his head hanging out the window. The fucking Joker out of the car calling. Jim, do you got any dates you want to plug? When is this going up? This will go out on Monday. Okay, so I was just in Tampa.

Let's just say go to jimnorton.com. I have dates in Chicago. I have dates in Royal Oak, Michigan. I have dates in Minneapolis and Madison, Wisconsin. I have a bunch of dates coming up in different locations. Also, I'm going to be at Skank Fest, and I'm interviewing Ozzy at South by Southwest on a stage, him and Jack. So those are the things I have coming up. Wow, fuck yeah.

That's awesome. Thanks, guys. Thank you, buddy. Thank you, brother. All right. Thank you to Jim Norton and Matt Serra for joining the show.

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Welcome back to the show. I am joined now in studio by a very special guest, Danielle Monet. Monet, Monet? Yeah, you said it right, Monet. Okay, good. I was nervous about saying that wrong. I watched interviews and I was like, I know I'm still going to flip it off. I do that before interviews.

I Google how to say things and phonetically. I do it, but I always fuck it up anyway. It's like the USB. You have a 50% chance every time and I get it wrong 100% of the time. Right. First question for you. On your Wikipedia, did you go to ECU? Yes.

East Carolina. So this is really weird, but I just went to ECU for the first time in April or May because we ran a contest. They have ECU Barstool. Yes. Yeah. Which I just discovered. We ran a whole contest for like who has the best college bar in America.

Oh, I saw that. And it was all voting. And ECU won for Sup Dogs. Was that there when you were there? Sup Dogs was not there when I was there. It's a hot dog stand. Which is weird. Which is weird.

And it won? We showed up and we were like, this is the best bar in America. Oh my god. They serve like, frose drinks and shit. Was it cool? But, I don't know. Yeah, sure. I have to go back.

No, some of the bars are still there. You didn't hit me as like, this is the best bar in America. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some of the bars are still there. Downtown's pretty much a mess. I mean, it's great. Like ECU goes hard. It's college town. Yeah. But I think someone had did mention, like DM'd me

and asked me to retweet the best bar thing. Oh, really? I think maybe it was like I don't know if it was ECU alum or maybe I follow Barstool ECU on Twitter or something, but someone was like, hey, can you help us out? Yeah. And so that's how I know about it. It was wild. We went, we have like a weird like fake band here at Barstool ECU on Twitter or something, but someone was like, hey, can you help us out? Yeah. And so that's how I know about it. It was wild. We have like a weird fake band here at Barstool

where it's basically a fake pop punk band. Oh, oh my gosh. And we really play. Do you like pop punk? I love pop punk. Yeah, huge into pop punk. Do you know the Wonder Years? Of course, yeah.

Oh my gosh. Greatest Generation, one of my favorite albums of all time. Ever. I know Dan, and I love the Wonder Years. And no one knows who it is. I'm going to see them soon. They're coming to New York they're doing like an acoustic tour

yeah with a band called Spanish Love Songs who's a lot like the Wonder Years I don't know them and they're fantastic they're really good sometimes when people say they like pop punk

then I throw that out there to see if they really know or if they just like Newfound Glory or something and I'm like okay I'm actually out on Newfound Glory don't like them really

their self titled album is maybe my favorite album front to back. Oh, damn. I shouldn't have said I was out on Newfound Glory. But it's fine. But that's been years. That was when I was – Well, I'm such a big Paramore fan too.

Yeah, I know. So you got to pick sides. I have to think. You got to pick sides. Of course, yeah. So we digress. Yeah, going back to the college thing. Yeah.

Right out of college, you went to the Lingerie Football League? Yes. Was that – My poor parents. How do you make that decision um so i got a desk job i did the right thing with my college education um got a desk job worked in plumbing for a year and a half um wholesale bath kitchen lighting i have great plumbers crack which i assume is not what you were looking yeah i mean it was like a great company it was like good like to like come up in it they had a good developmental program and i got to live at the beach.

And then I was like, you know, I'm just going to move. And this is where? In Wilmington, North Carolina. Wikipedia said you were born in New York. Yeah, born in New York. Grew up in North Carolina. Yeah. Is that true?

Sometimes it's not. Yes, I know. Sometimes when you Google things, it's definitely not true. Like my dating history, I'm like, no, those are all fake wrestlers. That's not who I actually date. My net worth is wrong. It's way lower than mine's too mine's really high i'm like okay now i'm gonna intimidate everyone um but yeah so i was born here lived here till i was like two in new york and then moved to north carolina and that's where i like went to school and did everything

so i never been to chicago and i just moved there like blindly. And I just was like, no one's going to live your life for you. You need to go live your own life. And I moved there and I started fresh and knew, got in debt for sure. I hadn't saved any money. But, you know, quick, my big girl job, my parents, poor parents. And then I played laundry football. And then I wrestled my poor parents. How did you even get the offer?

How does that come into your life? Were you an athlete growing up? Yeah, I was an athlete. I say that. I'm like, yeah. I ran track and played tennis. I mean, I jumped hurdles. I definitely was like sixth place, you know.

But, yeah, athlete. You have to be some form of an athlete to be able to do that. You know, you can't just – Of course. Yeah, be playing tiddlywinks. But so I was working at Nordstrom in Chicago, working at a bar at night, modeling, just hustling. Like I wanted to quit my job and work a ton of jobs

and like feel alive. And then I watched the Super Bowl halftime show and that was when the LFL was still on the Super Bowl halftime show. And that was like very, they had like a lot of models on it and they weren't really playing. And then they decided to actually get athletes.

Similar to like what the WWE went through. Yeah, for sure. Sort of. For sure. And so it was less of a, you know, like a gimmick and more of, do people know what gimmick means in real life? I don't know. I talk wrestling talk.

Yeah. Corny talk. I'm pretty good now that I've been out almost three years but like i'll say like ribbing or i'll say um like like oh you're gonna heal out or like oh yeah like no he shoots said this to me i can't believe it and like i'll do it say that with non-wrestling fans and i say stuff all wrestling worlds all the time and people are like i'm like it's a whole different language yeah but i think i once dropped like and like what a douchebag for me dropping it because I'm not even a wrestler. But once I was like, oh, someone, like, fucking hit me.

Like, they potatoed me, like, for real. And someone's like, what? That's not a real word, potato? I guess not, no. My dad knew what ribbing was, so maybe that's, like, an old man thing. Yeah, I feel like all carny talk blends together. That's true. All of these, like, weird professions where people are on the road and stuff. So yeah, I don't know how I even got in touch with the LFL.

Maybe I DM'd them or emailed them, and I kind of went after them like I went after WWE. There's a running thing with my life where I just go after what I want. Hey, fuck it. You played there for, what, three years? Yes, I played three years. And the first year, I started doing the media for them, and I kind of became the face of- Yeah, I was cornerback, not quarterback. Oh, cornerback.

I'm not a football guy. That's not even- It's okay. I played defense only. That's just me not knowing football. You sounded like you knew what you were talking about. No, not really. I played defense only.

The first year, I did the PR for them. Then I did the commercial, and the commercial was just kind of going to be a one-off thing. And it turned out to be awesome. And they used it in stadium. They played at ECU. It was weird. I had people tell me at the football stadium, I played it. So then when I would, and then when I would go out the first play of every game, the other team hated me. Like the girls just hated me because I was the face and I was like the cute girl in the commercial. So girls would like come and double tackle me and the ball wasn't even coming my way. And I'd be like, oh, my God, I hate you.

Were you a football fan prior to that? Yeah, I'm a big football fan. So I'm a big Chicago Bears fan. But even that came once you moved to Chicago? Yeah. Like I was always a football fan. I kind of tried to get into the Panthers. And then once I moved to Chicago, it was like Bears.

It's easier. Yeah. And they're horrible. So I can't believe I like – Yeah, but the fan base is there. Really, for sure. And it's such a football town. It's such like a sports town in general.

And I ran them out of the tunnel two years ago. I remember that. Yeah, with the flag and everything. Which is pretty crazy. Yeah. It weighs a lot of weight. It weighs a lot of weight. It's been a tough few years for bears fans the double doink yeah last year last year was pretty decent we did have dick come and talk to us with the lfl which was really cool and he walked in i think it

was before our first game and it was so funny because he was giving us advice and then he just stops at the end he goes i just got one question for you girls we were like what and he was just like why in the hell would you ever do this you all are so beautiful you could be doing anything you want and you're gonna go out here all right and he was like you can go out here and just get your face broken and like busted open and little did i know the foreshadowing of me getting my face busted open yeah so going forward, you go to the WWE in 2011. At the time, their developmental system was not NXT. It was FCW.

I feel like a lot of wrestling fans probably don't realize how different FCW was from NXT. I didn't know at the time. I wasn't from Florida, and we weren't really getting the – we weren't able to watch it every week. FCW TV was only in Florida, yeah. On cable TV. Oh my gosh. And we've got some of that on the network now. Going back and watching it, there were like not a lot of people there.

The production was barely there. The lighting was not on. How would you describe that version of FCW to someone? Yeah. I mean I liked it and we all kind of liked it because it had to – you really wanted it. Like there was no glitz and glam. It looked like an indie.

Yeah, for sure. It did. It looked like you could just buy like a DVD of a random indie. For sure. And now that I'm doing indie appearances, I'm like, wow, this is bigger than FCW. So I would say FCW shows were maybe 50 people if I had to guess. And it was all the same people. So they all heckled you.

Who was in your class of FCW? So, oh my gosh. With me, it was like Seth Rollins, Roman Reigns. The New Day was all there. Bray Wyatt. I was actually, I don't know if I've ever told this story. Is this a Barstool exclusive? I was actually in the Wyatt family as the original pitch pitch and Bray wanted me to be the girl

which have they ever had a girl no so I think it was pre-sister Abigail like he hadn't really um like that hadn't come to fruition yet in his mind or whatever dream Dusty was like a big fan of the whole thing and so he came to me. Wyndham came to me, and he was like, I have this idea. And I was honored because at the time I was like, I think I was still really new because I only got called up after a year and a half. It's also got to be cool just for someone to include you in an idea. For sure. Even from a human point of view. For sure.

And he was like, you're still learning how to wrestle. And all of them were amazing, phenomenal wrestlers. So he was like, if we get called up, you'll be on the road with us. I'll still learning how to wrestle. And all of them were amazing, phenomenal wrestlers. So he was like, if we get called up, you'll be on the road with us. I'll teach you how to wrestle. It's fine. You know? And I'm like, sick. Cool.

So he had me for a month watch, do you know House of a Thousand Corpses? Yeah. The Rob Zombie movie. Which, by the way, Rob Zombie's wife is in that. She's such a babe. She's in all his movies. Right. So I was kind of that role.

Like was the Rob Zombie where I would lure the people in with my looks and my sexuality and then they kill them. And so I am not into scary movies at all. And in that month, he had me watch all the Manson Girls documentaries and stuff. And it was crazy because I got really um like i just um submersed myself in this world and i got so dark and it was kind of cool to become a good introduction good for you to go through that early on in your wrestling career because it was like very creative and like dusty loved it really dive into a character like for sure and so he had like this one thing where he was on a rocking chair, rocking and obviously. And I think the two guys were still in it.

One of the guys from Ascension was originally in it. I can't remember what it was. Oh, really? And then I like crawled in and like I placed my head on his lap and it was like just watching it back. It's so creepy. But it was a weird like he was my master and he wasn't my boyfriend. Like it wasn't. So it wasn't like House of a Thousand Corpses. And, like, you didn't know what the relationship was or something.

And I had just daddy issues. And so then this one time I did a promo. Oh, my gosh. It was so fun with Dusty. Like, just crazy to think even now that he's not with us. And, like, I had bad experience with him. Like, it's so cool. It's just so cool.

Like, you know, those days were really fun. The promo promo class it's just amazing and rob nailer who um do you know rob i don't know in person we're like twitter friends we've been twitter friends for years so rob like talked me off the ledge of quitting so many times in developmental early um and not that i didn't want it it just really messes with your head and your mind and it's just hard. I trained to wrestle for a summer and I quit. Really? You made it way further. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's great. Do you have that footage? Oh, no. Honestly, I wish that I did have the footage now. I wound up doing like – I'll do a spot here and there. I do the, oh, I'm the fan in the front row who gets super kicked unexpectedly now. Fun. Yeah.

But no, I wish I had the footage for my training. Just me blown up. That was the entire thing. do the oh i'm the fan in the front row who gets super kicked unexpectedly fun yeah but no i wish i had the courage for my training just me blown up right the entire thing oh my it's so blown out and like the the bruises on your back from the ropes yeah bruise on your from the rope and then your lats yeah it'll be on your lap and then we all have really weird elbows like um just like scarred up elbows it's like this weird club. But so Naylor was kind of like dreams assistant and did a lot of that creative stuff. So he has some of these promos and like we used to watch them together. Yeah. I think now that he's got,

see, see how I like almost said that, but then you said it and I was like, okay, great. Has he? And so he has some of those and it's like crazy to watch back and like watch this stuff because some of the stuff is so dumb.

But the Bray thing was really, really cool. And I remember doing this promo one time and I just created it. But I was like, oh, I want Bray to like really think I'm good at this. You know, I've been watching my stuff. And so I did this thing where I'm like, and I have blonde hair and the whole thing. And I was like this like Beverly Hills bimbo. And I had daddy issues and I was like prom queen. And at the end of it, I like leaned forward and like was like, well, don't you want me, daddy?

But like hitting on my father in the promo. You took it to like a next level. The boys? Like I think it was the Ascension. Like I was like top class. It was like the Ascension, Corey Graves, like, Bray, like, Roman, Seth. Everyone was in there. Their – like, it was just great to pop the boys.

But usually people are on the phone when the girls would do promos. Like, Paige was amazing at promos. Yep. And so the guys would walk. You guys had a really good class of women that came up in that time, too. We had such a good class, yeah. And it was so funny. You, Paige, Emma, who's a great promo person.

Yeah. Emma always had good stuff. So it was funny when I You page Emma, who's a great pro-on person. Yeah, Emma always had good stuff. So it was funny when I said that. They were all like, oh my god, I can't believe. And then Bray comes up to me. He's like, that's so sick. That was great. So it was fun just looking back at stuff like that now.

But probably Vince definitely saw me maybe like the Kelly Kelly takeover or the blondes girl, which is cool, but maybe with the redhead. You came in at an interesting time too where the women's evolution hadn't really taken place yet. Like Total Divas, I remember, just started as a reality show.

Yeah. And that was even two years after I started. Well, that was 2013. Yeah, when you're coming up with Fandango and stuff. And I remember they were trying to give the women some more shine, but it was in a lot of those clusterfuck tag matches where it's eight on eight, and you're like,

is this really helping? We would have the Raw country show, and we would do the musical chairs to boot scootin' boogie. Yeah, which it seemed counterproductive with all of that. But eventually it transitioned. Totally, and it took a while. Which it seemed like counterproductive with all of that. But eventually it transitioned. And it took a while. I remember me, Emma, and Paige and someone else, we were like that right before.

So we were like the first people on NXT. I remember I did the pilot for NXT. And there was buzz about you guys and NXT because it was like, oh, there's kind of something going on down there. And Paige and I had a double-sec match. You guys had that. And I think it was like 10 or 11 minutes, which is unheard of at that time. And you won for the title, right? Yeah. No, I think we had gone back and forth.

It was, oh. Because you guys had a feud where you got pulled apart from each other on the top of the stage, I remember. So I was the announcer. That's how I debuted wrestling. And then she won a match and I just attacked her. Yeah. And that's how we started. And I would like run in on our matches and hit her and stuff.

I remember Dusty getting in between it too. Oh, yeah. There's like great clips of you guys attacking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my gosh. If you have that clip, please tweet me that clip. I love it. I'll post it.

That clip's out there. Yeah. Someone listening has to tweet me that clip. But yeah, like that was really cool. And I remember we walked away from that match like, I've never had so many bruises on my arms. I mean, we just beat the shit out of each other, you know? But it was

cool. We felt the pressure of that. Did you guys feel a vibe of like, whoa, shit might be changing around here? Or at that time was it like... Yeah, no, at the time, because we hadn't even learned like, how to do a commercial break. So when we were learning psychology, it was like, okay, yeah,

you have, you know, the beginning, your shine, you have your cutoff, you have, you know, your comeback, your falsies, like the whole thing. And having a commercial break, we kind of thought, and we were hoping too because I think Jericho was on that show and there were a lot of, you take four shows with NXT. And so it's just, we were the last match of the four hours. And I'm like, oh my gosh,

no one's going to care. But then it's like, shoot, they gave it to us. We still got to do it. And the crowd, thank goodness, was still really into it. But I remember at that time being like, okay, so it's not the cutoff.

We can't have the cutoff before you go to commercial because then the heat's going to be too long. So what do we do? It's like a math equation in your head. But it was so interesting. I mean, I hadn't. She's wrestled forever, but I learned from scratch.

So I hadn't learned that part of wrestling. At that point, how long have you been wrestling? At the time. We were women at the time, and now we're not. We were women. I think at the time I had only been wrestling like a year, maybe. Because I got called up a year and a half, and then I was still going back and forth. Maybe a year and a half.

Maybe I was with Fandango. Yeah, you went back and forth for a bit to do stuff with Charlotte and Sasha. Well, the BFFs. Yeah, you were like – So many people want the BFFs. I get tweets about that to this day. You were like a really good heel faction. It was fun.

It was good stuff. That was good. We wanted to do sorority shirts. So we wanted it to be like – there's no F in the Greek alphabet, I don't think. So it would be like beta whatever, whatever. And we wanted to like have those things and like induct people and haze people. I mean we had – That would have been really funny.

We had a pitch for the ages. The videos of the – they're like nightmare fuel for people. But when the sororities will open their doors and there's like a thousand girls behind the door. Oh my god. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like clones where you get a bunch of extras. Then if we ever went to Mania, that could be our entry. I mean we had so many ideas.

But then like I think – who got called up first, Sasha over Charlotte? Well, they all got called up in one clean – the three of them. And then they did the faction warfare for a bit. So it's good. I mean I never – like I'm not salty about anything. Like people always say that to me in signings. They're like, oh, I wish this would happen. I wish this was BFF and I wish you would have had this. And I'm just like,

I got to live my dream. It's just amazing. I was going to say, it's been a few years since you've been in the WWE. What are the annoying things that people come up and you're like, no, that's one for sure. No, I'm not bitter. Well, they, every single person, which is flattering, it's nice. Are you going to go back to WWE?

So it's always, are you going to go back? And I don't find it annoying, but do know people um that do signings with me that get so annoyed with it like if they're having a bad day say they haven't signed with ring of honor aw and they're not sure but they still want to wrestle and there's all this stuff and then people are like you should go back it's like yeah duh like duh like if I go back I did you know like of course you should go back. It's like, yeah, duh. Like, duh. Yeah, you should get a big paycheck. You know, like, of course I should go back. So, like, for me, I've never. Has the AEW Ring of Honor stuff made it, like, almost worse in that now there's more options?

And they're like, are you going to show up? And if you do a signing, like, where AEW's in town, are you going to show up? And you're like, no. No, I think if anything, it's helped. Like, I think competition is great. I'm really happy for Brandy and Cody. That's so cool. I love anyone that's successful after WWE

because I think when you're in it, there's such a stigma that that's all we are and that it defines us and that's all we'll ever be, which is crazy because I respond to a name that isn't mine. Like I'll walk down the street and if someone's real name is Summer or if they're like Summer Day or like they're talking but they say it loud, I literally look around. So you do have like a little identity crisis when you leave

and I think it's a lot of my friends that are athletes, when they leave their stuff, if they don't have an exit plan, you know, they get depressed or they turn to drugs and alcohol. And like, we've all kind of seen that happen or whatever. And so I just think we're all so many other things other than that. It doesn't define you. So if anyone's ever successful or when people are successful let me change my phrasing

yeah they i love that i think that's great and even sometimes like a lot of women will go off and they'll get married and i'll have babies and like i know fans don't mean to be disrespectful but they'll be like so when are you gonna go back or what are you doing now you see it happening with ronda right now yeah rum. The rumble and everything. She made it very clear. She's going off to make a family. And Ronda doesn't have to do anything with the rest of her life. She's Ronda Rousey.

Correct, yeah. She's been there, done that. What else is she going to do? If she has wrestled her last match, that's fine. We're good. She literally can change diapers the rest of her life because that's a job in itself. So I know when fans say that it's like so what are you doing now it's just like um i know that they say it from a good place so it

could be taken as a little for sure and like zeb um coulter dutch oh yeah we were very close i have very odd relationships within wwe i wanted to ask you like who have you kept in touch with always i think people that leave the people that you kept in touch with? The people I'm close with? Always. I think people that leave, the people that they keep in touch with show who they traveled with or whatever. I think it's always very interesting. Yeah, for sure. People are asking that now.

It's good. Zeb and I became close traveling, I think, because I love old people. Did two of you guys just travel together? Yes. We would roll up to a hotel, me and him in a car, and I'd get out, and they're like, summer, summer. And then Zeb gets out, and they're like, what? What's going on there? And he would always say, he'd always be like, sit up here with me on this flight or this and that, because no one will think we're hooking up.

So I'll keep you out of trouble. And I'm like, what do you mean? When I was first called up, and I'm like, oh, everyone. Yeah, you sit next to a male. Your fresh meat. Like when a girl gets called up, your fresh meat. So it was funny. Like it's kind of like my dad on the road and he would be like,

sit up with me, kids. Like let me tell you about the world. But he said something to me because, you know, he used to wrestle in Puerto Rico. Yeah, all over the place. Yeah, and like he would be like, Puerto Ricans, they still think it's quote unquote real nowadays like as far as like storyline and they think you're so – because he was like Dirty Dutch

Mantel or whatever. He was getting his tire slapped. Totally. Oh, he said he'd be at IHOP and people would be like, you mother of – Death threats. Yeah. Like all this stuff which is amazing. Yeah.

For non-wrestling fans, that's what you want. That's as much as you could possibly ask for. People overthink their heat all the time when really you just have to be, it can be the most subtle thing that people hate. I mean, look at We the People. I mean, We the People got over. But when he first started it, it was like,

oh God, you know, it's the hell we're actually living in America now. But, foreshadowing weird i've never thought about that um but he said to me about people coming up to you in public and interrupting your family eating or whatever it is because a lot of wrestlers have spoken out about that is he said you only have something to worry about when they stop asking. And so I've always thought about that. And not that I'm the kind of person, I mean, very nice. And if anyone ever asked me, like I never would say no.

If anything, I need like a bad guy, you know, at signings to take me away because I'll just stay there for hours. And he was like, yeah, like if someone comes up to me when I'm eating, like I can tell them like, oh, I'm with my family next time. Could you? But then I still sign. And he's like, when they stop asking, that's when you should worry. And so I just know when people ask us, what are you doing now? I know it comes from a loving place.

And so I just have to know that. And also, too, fans get really nervous meeting you. So, like, they kind of don't know what to say. Like, every time I talk to my grandma on the phone, she asks me the same questions. Like she's like, are you dating anyone? And then what are you doing for work? And it stresses me out.

But then also. I'm figuring it out. Also, she just is like asking because she doesn't know what else to ask me, you know? So I know fans just mean well, but it is interesting because I think we all have this like mental with AEW or Ring of Honor

or WWE like a lot of people that are in wrestling right now are torn so every time you bring it up it's a little more stress or like you know with me it's like I'm doing a lot of things like I don't know what I do I'm just don't know how to answer that but I'm happy so that's

all that matters. So it's funny, but I know they mean well, you know? Yeah, and the Zeb Coulter thing is almost an extension of when you're in the ring, you just want a reaction out of people. You want cheers, you want boos, but you don't want them to stay silent. You don't want them to not care. For sure. So it's almost, it plays that way after your career as well. Going back, who are the other people that you're still friends with in WWE stuff?

I'm very close with Emma, with Tennille. Her and I rode together in WWE. That makes sense, coming up together. Yeah, and we left the same day. It was like me, her, and Darren Young. And so we kind of like got close

with that too, and we've taken this journey after WWE together. So we recently just went to we had an appearance in singapore then we had appearances in australia that we booked ourself actually and so then we went to bali in between because you're on the other side of the world and we had this like random six days with nothing to do so we're like let's go to bali and it's dirt cheap like sounds like you're living right now if You're just like going traveling the world on signings and stuff and appearances. And she's crazy.

Like she loves to travel too. And so she'll do that like if she has wrestling in England. Does she still live in Australia? No, no, no. She's here in the U.S. Okay. That makes sense. But I think she – I mean I think she'd be great if she went back to Australia.

That flight just – I've never been there. It's so long. It seems crazy to me. My roommate just went and works here. It's a went back to Australia. That flight just – I've never been there. It's so long. It seems crazy to me. My roommate just went and works here. It's a 25-hour flight. That's like – From here? That broke my brain.

Or 25 hours back, I guess. Yeah. Yeah, because I think from New York you could get like one connection. From LA, it's like only 17 hours. It's like pretty quick or whatever. I mean, still, that's crazy. I'm not an LA person. You're more of an LA person than me.

That's so great. Yeah, I'm like okay wherever I am as long as there's good people. See, I'm so political. I just feel like if you were, like, on Sunset, someone would be like, yeah, she lives in L.A. Yeah, maybe, yeah. And if I were on Sunset, they'd be, like, torched. They'd be like, he's going to rock you. Definitely, yeah.

But so, Tennille and I are still really close. She's amazing, like, helps me mentally and, like, everything. I see her a little bit when she comes up here um and then sasha i still talk to a little bit we talked we used to talk a lot um about a year ago and then we just both get it's hard like you get so busy but love sasha trinity traveling makes everything yeah for sure it's hard especially for them like your time just like goes by it's i hated that part that gives me anxiety like it's just like six years later such a sigh of relief when it was like okay my world could like yeah i mean even when you get

injured because how many how many days out of the year if you're on a full-time schedule are you traveling i mean if you're really doing it right and you're making good money and you're booked all the time you can be up to 300 days a year that's crazy but see the crazy thing is like i said that to someone the other day that has a desk job here in new york and you know they work like eight to six they work a lot of hours and they bring their work home sometimes and stuff and i was like oh i i work you know like you can be on the road 300 excuse me 300 days a year and he was like yeah i think that's like normal people with two days on the weekend but i'm like yeah but then so that's flying out friday coming back tuesday no show

on tuesday so you're coming back wednesday wednesday's a travel day so you really have one day off yeah you really don't get wednesday so then you're with babies at a rental car place it's throwing up on you then you're on babies at a rental car place. It's throwing up on you. Then you're on your flight. And you have to connect usually. And then you get home and then you're exhausted because it's a 5 a.m. flight. So it's not like a poor me situation. But it was an interesting concept because we all say that. On the road 300 days a year.

But really, like, the Knicks, they play half of it is home. Half of it's away. Like, sure, you're playing, but you're home. So being in your bed with your food and your gym, like of it's away like sure you're playing but you're home so being in your bed with your food and your gym like it's just so different yeah going on i feel like people that aren't wrestlers can understand this if you go on a vacation you come home the first night you sleep in your bed you're like oh this is awesome and then my own bed tonight and then the next day you have to wake up okay imagine that's every week totally and next day you have to wake up

you have to unpack you have to do your laundry. It's so annoying. Then you feel like you're behind. You have so many errands to do when you come back from vacation. And it's not like you're like every night. It's not like you're rock stars where you're going out, you're playing a show, and you're fine afterwards. You're also banged up after every single night. And then you have to drive.

Yeah. So we drove our own rental cars that we pay for. And so they would only pay for our flights and everything else we paid for. So hotels, everything. Yeah. Hotels, rental cars,

everything. It's right off, but not reimbursement. Speaking of which, I have to do my taxes. I'm about to set my Siri. Yeah. So,

yeah, it's interesting. Like it's not bad, but it, but I also like that because it's a grind and like not a lot of people can do it, especially a women, like not a lot of girls can do it especially a women like not a lot of girls can do it the eating on the road too you gotta you stay in shape and wear spandex yeah i'm like you know maybe have an app or two so it's like yeah like

fast food at night it's it's you know a grind but i think it's great. I definitely think now that I did that, I can do anything. I would think so. And I would imagine living right now is probably awesome. You said you're happy right now. Just being home. Probably a lot of that has to do with, I don't know, choosing your own way, like being home. Yeah, like just doing your own stuff. The weird thing, I love buying myself flowers every week because when I was on the road,

they would die or they'd be there one day. So like that reminds me of like I'm in control of my life and my schedule or whatever. But it is interesting now being out. I'm traveling like a lot too with signings and stuff. At least it's sort of on your own volition though. For sure. If you were like, all right, I want to take a break. If I want to take a month off, you can.

Yeah, for sure. All right. Tell the people where they could find you before we get out of here yes so I'm under my real name um Danielle Monet d-a-n-i-e l-l-e-m-o-i-n-e-t and that is for Instagram shoot name Twitter that's my shoot name um I am not on tinder or grinder or anything if you see any pictures. Yeah, people always message me that I'm catfished on dating apps. And then also I have crazy catfishes on Instagram. Yeah, I don't know.

Some people just don't know. Did you dye your hair so people don't recognize you as much? What do you think about my hair? Do people ask you that all the time? I think it looks good. No, no one asks. I'm a big red hair guy. Thank you.

You can see how blonde I am right here. I'm so naturally blonde. I think girls always think guys notice more than they do. We do. No one ever asked me that, if I dyed my hair. But it would make sense because it was right after it. I'll be honest. That was a text from my sister.

She's a Total Divas fan. So she was like, can you ask if she dyed her hair? Tell her I'm not mean like I was on Total Divas. On Total Divas it was nasty. But no, I just, I was honestly, I was in a group chat with my girlfriends and they were like putting us all rainbow hair, dark hair. And my friend Allie put me in red. I go, oh my God, I love it.

But then I looked the same my whole life and I said, I'm just going to try it. I was like, what if I've lived in the wrong hair color my whole life? Were people shocked when you did it? Yeah. And then people weren't recognizing me at signings. And I was like, oh no. Were you like, I gotta go back? I was like, oh no. Were you like, I gotta go back?

I was like, oh no. So now I like sometimes have a banner and stuff which is interesting but yeah, I really like it. Cool, I like it too. Yeah, guys kind of don't care.