My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 490 - NERD NEWS (OSCARS TALK, ZACK SNYDER IS A CLOWN, AND MORE)

Episode Date: March 13, 2026

Robbie and Clem break down the nerd news of the week, including the pre-Oscars buzz, Mandalorian and Grogu updates, Zack Snyder's pretty Green Lantern post, the Family Guy 'Stewie' spinoff, and more! ****************************************   My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike!   Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners. You can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement, presented by Barstool Sports, and a very special nerd news edition of the show and pretty much the strap-in show, because this is the last nerd news show before Invincible starts next week, which then starts this snowballer domino effect of Invincible and Mall Shadow Lord and the boys and Spider-No-R and lanterns and, you know, it's going to get to that point.

And the lanterns is not until August. But we have so many shows on the horizon, Clem, that this is kind of the calm before the storm show. I mean, it's getting hints of spring. I won't say spring is sprung because winter came back on all our faces. But by the time after this show, it's going to be like fall or winter when we just run out of stuff and there's nothing like approaching in the near distance in terms of show. shows, movies, all that kind of stuff. So it's going to go quick here in the basement.

So I guess enjoy this while we have it. This is like, like you said, a free swim. The lanes are going up in the pool pretty soon and we're going to be having to go in those lanes and just a little bit of free swim. So enjoy it while we have it, right? Exactly. I am really excited for Invincible next week here in very good things here in Whispers that it could be the best season since season one.

So fingers crossed. I mean, I don't want to get my hopes too high and then I'm disappointed. But I am like, I feel an actual. visceral excitement for Invincible at this point, which is good. I like feeling that way. Yeah, this season coming up is going to do a big job in terms of molding how I feel about the show as a whole because one had, you know, season one was crazy. But I was kind of losing patience two into three.

But then they kind of did change everything on its head last season. And by the end, you're just like breathless being like, oh, my God, what's coming next? So if people are saying this is good, because I don't know which way they're going to go. I mean, we have a little bit of an idea with the trailer. It's like, all right, that's a lot of stuff you're going to have to do. You're going to have to do it well or else we're going to kind of be like, well, remember the good old days? Maybe we're living in the good old days, Bob. Yeah.

And then Mall Shadow Lord. I know that's not like the A-list, A-list show. But I'm excited for it. And I've been talking to some people that are in the Barstool universe, Star Wars bubble. I think it'd be fun if we get some Star Wars guests on for Mall Shadow Lord. they kind of bump it up i know it's animated i know it's a spin off i know they're like they're bringing mall back again i'm excited and i think i want to make other people excited about it as well i just i love i love killing darth mall was such a big mistake that they have like

tried to make it up like a hundred times since so and i think there's like and listen i'm a huge george lucas guy but i think there's like george lucas apologists that are like it's amazing what they did with the doth mall and the clone wars like it was you know that was the story they were going to tell a whole time and it's like well no guys like putting him in the clone wars was like almost an admission of yeah we fucked that one up i know you want this guy so we're just going to ignore that his hatred kept him alive he's got spider legs now here you go i mean in in george's defense count ducu was a completely shitty and completely forgettable characters is there a count ducu like fan base out there i mean there's a fan oh yeah oh yeah

i'm sure christopher lord and the mandolour He's the leader of the fan club. He's like, and Count Duku was right, by the way. I think those people exist. I love Count Ducu, but I think so much of it has to do with Christopher Lee's performance and not necessarily the character itself. It was another guy where, like, if you watch the Clone Wars and all that, Tales of the Jedi, did a good job.

They do a good job with the animator stuff, expanding him. But yeah, and attack of the clones, like to follow up Darth Mall with just an old white guy with white hair, it's just like, oh, all right. At least he had the curved tilt, the curved tilt did the heavy lifting for kids. the last thing I'm like what were his highlights like what was the thing that you're going to be like that was his moment the curved tilt is like top tier tilt curve tilt fight with yoda getting his head sliced off uh I will honestly say and you mentioned it with the performance I'd say his most memorable moment and this is God's honest truth again it's someone that does not seek out rewatching the prequel trilogy the meme what's the look of superiority the condescending look of superiority the condescending look of superiority I mean, it literally is. It's like prequel memes have like elevated moments in that trilogy to the point where now people just know them.

Like people know about like Kea Tadamundi going, what about the droid attack on the walkies? Why does anyone know that? That's a good point. That's a good point. So I'm excited more so for you guys. I'm just, I've tried the animated stuff. I don't say, I guess, dislike it.

I'm not like, oh my God, turn this off. It's just not for me. We had the candy draft. We just had the candy draft. Yep. There's just, I don't like licorice. Some people don't like maybe Swedish fish. Some people, it's just not for them.

The animated stuff is just not for me. Some stuff I like maybe a little more than others. It's just not going to be me, guys. Invincible is almost, I was going to say, as good of an animated series as it can get for me, it's X-Men is probably, so I can love animation. It's just the Star Wars stuff I've encountered. At this point, I'm just,

You've got a small target to hit for animation. It's like getting a wamp rat. Yeah, it holds on as a womper rat. I've realized I'm getting old and older and older by the goddamn day. And I'm just going to just start like loving what I love. And the other stuff can just go whatever. And I just love my original trilogy. And Bob,

I'm going to be honest with you. It's almost like I just love Empire so much. It's a 10 out of 10. It's like my snuggy little teddy bear. And then obviously four and six great in their own right. And then like everything else, you know, Andor had it stuff. But it's like that stuff's good. It's around there.

But I just love what I love and kind of just let everyone else enjoy all the new stuff. A lot of this stuff isn't being made for me. It's being made for kids. The Darth Mall stuff, though, I do feel, is that more of a mature show, would you say? I think it could be. Yeah. I think it'll work for kids. But I think they're keeping in mind that a lot of adults are probably watching this.

I do know. They say the, and this is for the people that did not watch the, all the Darth Mall animated stuff. his like rivalry with Obi-Wan Kenobi and the stuff that goes down there is I don't know if I'd say S-tier Star Wars stuff but it is high up on the chain right. It's close man.

And like Star Wars fans, I think there's a lot that would put it in S-tier. I don't know if I could go there either. If I'm talking S-tier, I'm saying Obi-Wan and Anakin, you know, like that's like the true. Oh my God. But then again,

the more time that goes by, I know I've said this before, but more time that goes on post-O-B-W-W-W-on, the more I'm just kind of saying head-can, I don't know if I'm going to, I don't know if I'm going to include that in my personal head canon anymore. There's definitely aspects of it that I loved. I liked it as it was going down, but just it left this taste in my mouth where I'm like, I don't love the fact that Obi-Wan knew Leia as a kid.

I don't love the fact that they had a battle that was between Mustafa and the Death Star. I think the Death Star confrontation is so much more meaningful. And people have said this if their last meeting was on Mustafa. And again, they did a good job with that battle. I like that they did the broken helmet Vader and the red lighting. Oh, cool stuff. But in my head canon, I think those are nightmares that Obi-Wan was having on tattooing. I like, which would explain why Darth just left.

Like, left him burning and then it was like, ah, you know what, I'm sure he'll die. I'll leave him there to cook or something. Like that was just like, what do we do? He's dragging him through. And they handled Vader pretty well. But I just like him more as like a nightmareish type Vader. Yeah. Yeah.

So I like that as a nightmare. It was a nightmare for some people in the fan base. It was a nightmare for Obi-Wan. I had a nightmare the other night. This came out of nowhere. I had a nightmare like three nights ago that I and like a group I was with was being chased by Godzilla. Oh no. Brother.

You've had bad nightmares in your life. Nothing. You just when you like you look at Godzilla, you watch the movie and you are just terrified of this guy. But when you start breaking down like the weapons this guy has in his arsenal, because I'm running thinking if I get hit with a breath, it's over for me. And I'm running, I have its footprints. I'm like running and his footprints are there because they're indented. And it was a horrifying dream and I've never been so happy to wake up in my life.

So Obi-Wan had himself a heck of a little night terror and so did I the other night as well. I'm picturing you as like 11 in the Stranger Things finale where you just look Godzilla down and fucking open up like a pussy on his chest and jump through it. You got one red, you got one right pussy. I was just a pussy that was running the entire time. I was George Costanza pushing women and children out of my way trying to escape the safety for myself. I do have to watch still. People have been recommending me, the Obi-Wan edit

that is edited as like a two-hour movie. Everyone's like, dude, this is way better. They cut it down, blah, blah, blah. I will. It's on my list. I know people have been telling me to watch it. I will watch it. I didn't know that existed.

Yeah, I think it's called the Patterson cut. I think it was someone named Patterson, and they put it out there to download, and apparently it's way better as a movie than it is a TV show, which kind of makes sense because I think it was initially going to be a movie. I don't know. I'll check it out. Did they do that with the sequel trilogy yet?

Because I know, obviously. I don't know. Go for Grace Scott. Yeah. Yeah, because I think. I bet someone's done it. I think you could save the sequel trilogy and those of us that didn't love it in our eyes.

If he apparently saved the prequels, which I've never seen that as well, obviously. So I just don't think it's a, you don't have a healthy franchise if people are, making cuts of your stuff to make it better. Yeah. I'm glad you mentioned the draft. I wanted to mention that for a quick basement keeping up top.

The draft was so much fun. It was me, Clem, Fights, Eddie and Chief, and we did candy offshoot, gummy candy offshoot, so the Sour Patch watermelon type thing, nerds gummy clusters type thing. Really good time. Just absolute good vibes for an hour and a half. Speaking of good vibes,

Super Critics, new episode out now with Tommy Smokes. It's the longest episode of Super Bowl. Super critics yet talking Superman for the Quest for Peace, widely known as one of the worst worst superhero movies ever made. One of the worst superhero movies ever made. Me and Tommy had to take that maybe it doesn't deserve that reputation. Is it a good movie? No, but maybe it doesn't deserve that reputation.

It got contentious with Clement. We were yelling at each other. We were pointing fingers. It's still a new show. We're trying to get off the ground. It's not doing gangbuster numbers. It's not doing my mom's basement numbers. But I want everyone to go check that out because I do think.

it's a really funny show. And I think it's kind of fun to go through these superhero movies in order like this, because we're in the shit right now. We just said it's like Andy Dufrin crawling through it. But there's the light at the end of the tunnel that is Batman 89 and then all of the amazing 90s comic book movies that follow. But it's clear to me at this point why Batman 89 was such a success at the time, because like I said last week, it's just shit after shit after shit after shit.

It's a tough stretch. God bless you guys for just being. like we're going to go through it too you do the andy dufrin more power to you i have to admit clemer is one of my favorite people just to hang with chat with whatever but i also love seeing him argue mainly with other people because he's just going to die in his hell old man yelling at cloud whatever you know meme you want to use uh i love one of i honestly think one of the true gems at barstall is the pick central rivalry between clemer meek phil it's almost meek versus the whole group It is.

They all hate me. I mean, Meek wasn't going to be invited to the thing because him and Bosco, they were going to have a dinner and they weren't going to bite Meek. When I see a clip and those factions are going to war, it's one of the best things we honestly do here. And I say that for the most sincere spot. And when Clemer was his feet were flail, you need Clemer to have a real meltdown where his feet are flailing around like you did in that one clip that was yelling around like, you and tell me about how the tides of the earth would change if Superman made an eclipse with the moon. And then I was like, ah, come on. there's not sound in space. Are you mad at that too? And he goes, yes. And he's just so vindictive. It's like, he's not mad at that. He's just angry. And he's just spurting out takes. It's so funny.

We also put out a new spin and back fist this week with Justin Steele, Cubs Ace. We recorded it yesterday with him. He is an absolute cage knower. So if you're an MMA fan, there's a car this weekend. We broke down the MMA news of the week with him. And then we did the card preview. Shout out Draft Kings. This guy, he has to be the number one cage knower in all of MMA. He's like in the weeds watching every fight, watching every prelim. So if you're a baseball fan or a UFC fan, check that out. Really good guy. Legit, like baseball player, too.

Absolute. He's a lot of last year. He's a big barstool guy, right? Like, I know he's like taking guys to really good friends with Marty. Marty hooked that up for us. Yeah, he's a cool dude. So I definitely think we're worth checking out if you're a UFC fan or you said a baseball fan. And then the last thing I wanted to plug, I did a tour.

Another thing Marty actually hooked up for me. this was the week of Marty produced my mom's basement content. I did a tour of one of the nicest suites in all of Las Vegas. It's not the Elvis suite, but it's the one right next to it on Elvis's floor. It's about the same size. Hugh Hefner, Stephen Tyler,

Barry Manilow, they're all staying there. Well, Hugh Hefner's dad, rest of peace. But Barry Manelow is currently staying there. Stephen Tyler used to stay there. I thought it would be kind of fun to introduce a new series to the basement this year

where I go in these cool tours. I got a lot of places in mind where I'd like to tour, the first one being one of the nicest hotel rooms in all of Las Vegas. I think it's a fun video. It's like seven minutes long. It's a real quick watch. I need your help as well.

The YouTube algorithm, big YouTube is saying, no, no, no, my mom's basement. You stay in your lane. You just recap your little nerd news, all right? You do your little interviews. I need everyone to go to the tour video if you're watching this and just give us a like. Give us a thumbs up because the algorithm is pushing it down and I'll pushing it back up. I saw the video. I watched it.

It was preposterous. I mean, it's just one of those things I think, like you said, it's a nice, quick, easy watch and it is one of those things they're like, I can't believe this kind of stuff could exist. And then with the people that have been there, it's one of those, if these walls could talk and your mind just kind of goes wild. The pool outside is ridiculous to the ceilings.

It's like the Sistine Chapel at some point. It's just the just absolute ridiculous grandeur that you would get only in like Las Vegas. So yeah, check it out, give the thumbs up, all that good stuff for the, our boy, Bob. Marty's mom's basement, we're going to call this week. It is Marty's mom's basement. There's our hashtag. Hashtag Marty, Marty's Mom's Basement. I love that.

All right, let's get into some nerd news. All right, first thing I want to talk about newswise week, about the Oscars this weekend. I love the Oscars, one of my favorite award shows. It is my favorite award show, but one of my favorite just like Twitter nights of the year. Everyone feels locked in for it.

The big story going into the Oscars is that Chalema is no longer the favorite to win best actor. Michael B. Jordan has overtaken him on all the odds, draft kings, whatever, all of that. and I don't think it's necessarily over this. But people are saying it's over the opera ballet quotes, which I'm pretty sure like votes were cast by the time that even became a controversy. It's just the dumbest fucking controversy I've ever seen in my life.

This guy said, I don't want to be in a struggling medium like opera or ballet. People are acting like they're not struggling mediums. I said to KFC, we were talking about it this week. I said if he said the same thing about like pop punk music, which is like my biggest passion, if he was like, I don't. want to start a pop punk band. I'd lose 14 cents for it with that fan base. There wouldn't be a single shred of my soul that would be offended. I'd be like, well, no shit. Of course it's a dying genre. That's why we're trying to fucking, you know, ride the

wave for it. Just such a strange, strange thing for people to completely deny it or even the people that don't care about opera and ballet in the first place that have never gone to opera or ballet are like, no, you can't say that. This is great. It's classic internet, I guess. Also, So when I told KFC that, he didn't respond for a little bit. And then he responded a few hours later. He goes, I think you were talking about Pup Punk. He's like, I thought you were saying if Chalamey trashed Pup Punk, he wouldn't be offended. I was like, no, no, I know he doesn't know what Pup Puck Puck is.

And I would be offended if he trashed pup pumps. I would be very offended. This, I think someone called it Ballet Gate. And I was like, I don't know if this is serious or tongue-in-cheek. And it was honestly, I think we officially run out of the most ridiculous set of gates. he's a product of like the dancing world right he literally is yeah and that's why he knows it's a dying medium he's watch his mom and his sister and his grandma struggle and he's not like fuck that fuck them dancers right he's like elevate the arts it's like the movie theater industry he'll be like the movie theater industry is

dying we need to support it build it up go see dune in i max yada yada go see your local ballet i guess i I don't know. He wasn't necessarily riding for it like that. No. In my head. He has in the past, though. Like, and people are saying, oh, this guy trashes. He's not into the performance arts.

Like, he made fucking Wonka in like the height of his, when everyone is saying, like, he pretty much he shouldn't do that. I saw the trailer. I was like, I don't know if I'm down for that. You were the one that had to sell me on it. It was like, it was actually pretty good. But I remember when I heard it was a music. I don't know about that. We were all looking at it like that.

Yeah. But we became shallow. that was when the shallomay love affair really like turned on to another level it's just so so i'm with you the oscars at least especially back in the day like a lot of things it would be this great night twitter jokes everything and now the minute there's some sort of thing that could be tied politically or some sort of controversy that could just be bubbled up i'm just like well i'm out and i think like i'm back out on the oscars again because this entire thing where they're just like up there's the there's like the thread we can pull against chalemay now this is the thing though

this is where i'm kind of torn we've been riding for shallomay to get this uh this little statue for like a year now ever since you know the greatness yada yada yada if he loses to michael b jordan though that's like the one guy maybe in the world where i'm like that was my dude back when he was fucking wallace i'm in the wire bob he was in the wire we got to get you to watch the war i watched the first episode i do remember seeing i'm young in the first episode friday night and, you know, all the other stuff he's done since then. And we love sinners. I mean, I think I mean, I definitely.

I have sinners higher than Marty Supreme in my rankings for whatever that year, you know, the last year, whatever you want to call it. Whatever that year was. I don't, but I'm saying, I don't know if it came out in the same calendar year. But it's like that era, that timeline, I'm definitely sinners won. I don't know if I had sinners or one battle after another, but it's those two, Marty Supreme, I had even a tier below. it's maybe three, four, five, whatever it is.

I have those other ones, one. And honestly, like, he brushes. Fucking Michael B. Jordan crushes too. So whatever you want to say about Marty, I can understand. It's almost crazy that Chalemay was such the heavy favorite. But these things, that's why this makes no sense at all. Nothing about the movies have changed. Not one thing has changed about these two movies since they came out.

And we're going back and forth as if they're playing a sport and this team's on a five game winning streak. This team's on a five game losing streak. And the odds are changing like that, you know, one, got home court advantage of one guy their star player has a you know uh spraying ankle nope it's just a bunch of fucking weirdo media people that are going to potentially change their votes over potentially stuff like this like you said whether it matters not the discourse and if it wasn't over this i guess it was over the actors awards like michael b jordan won that and everyone went crazy for him and a lot of

people said that was a big thing that changed voters minds like the reaction to him winning yeah positive and everyone was so happy for him that that might have switched things And again, I'm a Michael B. Jordan guy. I love Creed. I think his performance in Black Panther is next level. Like, when you're talking performances in Marvel movies, he's so good that people try to rationalize what Kilmonger was doing at this point. They're like, he had a point.

It's like, well, he was also like killing his girlfriend. And he did a ton of fucked up shit too. But it just feels wrong to me for him to win this year. I really do think Marty Supreme, the performance of Marty Mouser is like so levels above the sinner's performance. I left sinners going, that was a great movie. I left Marty Spring going, that was a great movie and like a mind-blowing performance in my mind. Like I almost left that more impressed with the performance than the movie, which I feel like best actor.

Like, that's the epitome of that award. I still predict that Chalamey wins. I'm saying that. I know the odds are saying no. I still think he's going to win too. And that's just as much like I think the Knicks are going to. I can talk myself in the next winning the title as long as they're not like laying an exonite before. I can definitely do that.

And I'm doing the same exact thing. Again, partially because he's a diehard Nick fan. And I just, we are Shalemate. here on the podcast. Makes it a little more exciting. Like if he wins, it's not just like, oh, yeah,

he was going to win the whole time. Now it's like, if he wins, I'm going to fucking fist pump in the air. But then again, if Michael B. Jordan wins, I'm not going to be like,

God damn it. I'm going to be like, oh, he's more of my favorite actors. So good for him. Well, that was the thing when, who was it,

Adrian Brody won. He was like, here and he gave a five minute speech. Five minute speech. And that's like your foo foo. He, he was acting. He is everything you think

of Timothy, Shalame would be really like this fancy Foo Foo guy and we've all fought against when I first I first heard of Timothy Chalemay was like get this fucking name out of my face I remember Bidelberg was talking about him all the time so I'm like God know

this guy is into and you see the name and then I mean once the Nick stuff started and all the different press store stuff he's the greatest marketer ever which I do think is the biggest part of this entire saga is that it's like it goes to show you you could be so good of what you do.

The littlest misstep, or in this age, you cannot even, I think his stuff did have some meat to it that people could take. But if you even say something that someone can kind of, you know, spin to make you look bad, they will do it, man. You see it all the time where these Twitter clips are called the Deke Zucker essentially. No context. It goes up and you're like, this fucking guy, you know, Shalema said, all ballet people should be fired and they should kill the art.

And it's like, what? I didn't say that. Especially now, Oscar season where it's just like smear campaigns left and right. And it's insane. We will see apparently a bunch of Marvel and Star Wars presenters at the Oscars. That's something if you're a Marvel or Star Wars fan, you can look forward to.

Marvel's saying they're going to have a big reunion presentation. With them saying reunion feels weird to me because it's like they never broke up. I know end game ended things, but it's like pretty much everyone's back. So reunion was weird. And then another weird thing kind of, They said the Star Wars presenters are Pedro Pascal, Ewan McGregor, and Sigourney Weaver. It's going to take a long time for me to get used to Sigourney Weaver build as like a star of the Star Wars franchise.

Like she's in all the other franchises. I love Sigourney. Don't get me wrong. But like she's from the alien franchise more than anything else, of course. When I think Sigourney, till this day, she's still the Ghostbusters to me. Because that was my favorite movie girl out. That too. Exactly.

Yeah. Aliens is obviously, you know, that's like, I don't want to say a bigger block. but I don't know, I'm sure it made him buy more money. But that's like she was the face of that shit, right? Or in Growth Buster, she was a part of a great cast. Also, let me just make this clear. I've said it a million times. This take, only ages like fine wine.

Killmonger was the true Black Panther. And I wish Michael B. Jordan was still our Black Panther today. And honestly, I wish they could figure a way to retcon them back there. Because you've now burned the Michael B. Jordan card in the MCU for a character. You killed. I mean, we're saying how do they wreck on it? We're like, we're in the multiverse. You know what I mean?

Like at this point, it's also, there's a thing in. Announce it now. He's back. Black Panther. Michael B. Jordan confirmed. Like, if Coobler's staying with Black Panther, which he is, right? Yes. And they are.

They're tied at the hip. This is, you know. He was in, too as well. They did the, like, what do they call that? The realm, feel like the afterlife realm. Yeah. He was in that. And I thought they used them really well in that,

especially considering like, yeah, you can't bring back like Chadwick in that. You can't do something weird kind of CGI. Nobody wanted to see that. I thought that was a good use of bringing him back. I also thought like there was a chance they brought him back in two because his body goes into the ocean and then two focuses on like the ocean. Black Panther universe has already established something that could bring people back to life. I don't know.

There was something about that. Not completely bring back to life, but kind of revive someone. I don't think there's a zero percent chance that killed. monger comes back like in the flesh i think there's an actual chance that happens even if it's just for like he comes and helps someone in secret wars or something like that i think secret wars would be sick if they resurrect a bunch of villains that have died to help the avengers against him oh that would be sweet i'm telling you right now i mean it's already like scorcese denier of these two right with coogler and jordan they're already having that relationship it has to happen i'm sorry i don't know where

we're going to just take it over i don't i don't know if you're going to be you're going to just take it over i don't i don't that's the prudent move here. I think it didn't seem like people took that in. People want Damon Idris to play the guy from F1. They want him to play like a multiverse black panther. And there's been a lot of rumors where he's been, his quotes are, uh, they're a little like sus-listi where I'm like, I think you might already be black panther. Imagine if they were like, you know, we were looking at Pedro Pascal to be black panther. It wouldn't shock me. He was on the board. They were like, if the first three turn it down, we will. I'll ask him.

I need this. I want to start a campaign. I was going to say, let's start a campaign. There has to have been a campaign about this. I think, again, I loved everything about the French play panther movie, but Kilmander was fucking awesome.

And we just burned it. His haircut, his suit, the fucking scars all over him, like everything about Kilmogne. He won the fucking fight the old fashion way, too. We're just brushing over that. Speaking of Pedro Pascal, Kathleen Kennedy confirmed that Grogu will not speak in the Mandalorian and Grogu.

Her quote is not a word, which I found this so funny. Everyone was like running with this. It's like big breaking news. I really didn't think he would speak. I thought there was a chance that maybe the movie ends with like a dada or like something, you know, a little babyish like that. But I didn't think that like they were going to be. Yeah, I didn't think that they were going to be sitting next to each other in the fucking

razor crest being like, oh, what did you eat for dinner last night? Like I don't think Grogu was ever going to be that cat. I don't think he's ever going to be like a yo, maybe. I shouldn't say ever. I shouldn't say ever about anything at Star Wars because somehow Talbot could return. But it was just never, never what I necessarily thought of Grogo. And then the only other Star Wars thing I wanted to mention with this was that George Lucas got a Lifetime Achievement Award at the Saturn Awards this past week, which is like a sci-fi-specific award show. Funniest clip ever was Tom Cruise sitting in the front road during his speech.

George is like, my wife told me to keep this short. So I'm going to keep this short. Thank you all. And Tom Cruise just yells out, We thank you, George. The cool guy in class. It's the L in the assembly, right? Yeah.

I was going to say, did George even show up to accept it? Because I don't know anything about the award or the, but if Tom Cruise's front row, I guess that does have some pull. It's like in sci-fi, it's very, like respected, yeah. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. I also think the, like, I don't want to hear baby yo speak. I want cooing. I want cute stuff.

And that's it. I, to this day. Like, he would do his voice. You know what I mean? Like you're casting someone to do with Pedro? Whoever did Maggie Simpson's voice, because that was a huge deal. Though Maggie said her first words. Do you know what her first words were?

You're going to tell me and it's going to ring a bell, but I can't off the top of my head. It's an obvious first word. I think you might have said it's either daddy or dad-dad. I thought it was something like that. It warms Homer's heart. Yeah, because the other two kids would only call him Homer. Homer. Homer.

Right. Homer. It was so fucking funny. So, but I remember hearing Maggie's voice, I'm like, all right, I never want to hear her speaking again. And I don't think we did, at least until I stopped watching. She could be speaking full senses now. I have no idea.

I just live in my happy little bubble. Well, this is perfect. My next story was Simpsons related. And I wanted to get your take on this as a Simpsons die hard, at least, you know, like you said, for the first, however many seasons. First 10 seasons, would you say? Yes. Yeah, it's like 8 to 10, but I always say 10, even 10 to 12, but yeah, I just say 10.

So the Simpsons showrunner says that the series will never have a proper series finale. He said, if the show ever did end, there's no finale, it would just be a regular episode that has the family in it, probably a little Easter egg here and there, but no, I'm going to miss this place. And I read that and I thought it was interesting. I thought it was like an interesting take and way to go about that. I don't hate it. I don't love it. I kind of like a finality or is that the word finality in a finale?

Like I like it to feel like, all right, like we're closing the first. chapter on this book the same time there's been so many finale's gone wrong and especially for a show like the simpsons where it's been on for 30 years and you don't necessarily like i don't know if you want to see everyone grow up or do a flash forward or something like that it did get me thinking like i don't know what i would want in the simpsons finale so maybe this is the right way how do you feel about it i'm i thought that they would just like end it with one of their movies right they'd have a movie yeah the second one's coming out i kind of think we we talked about that like could they do it because they talked about doing it with the first one.

And listen, I think there are times where even if you take a half hour of the end of the movie, basically stranger things, the way they ended that, right? I thought that was cool. We were the section that loved the way that they ended everything. There was plenty of people who didn't. But this is the other thing, too. And I don't know if this case, I always, the Simpsons, at least growing up, they're like, what they were chasing, I mean, they're chasing the Cosby.

I'm reading my Simpsons book right now on Odyssey, and I have that. like three hours left. And by the way, I'm reading as in listening to it. Yeah. Or audible. I have like, I have two and a half hours left. The book for the people that don't know, we talked about in the past. Stupid TV, be more funny. A plus, plus, plus history lesson. And they talked about how they were chasing the Cosby Show. Then they put it at the same night as the Cosby Show at one point. So Cosby Show was their, their like competition then. And it was very different families, but same families, you know, going through all the, whatever the stuff is. but it was always the Flintstones.

And then when they finally passed the Flintstones for the longest animated show, now that I think they're the longest show ever, I don't think the Flintstones had an episode or was like, all right, like either the asteroid hit or they had like a wrap-up, I could be wrong. But I feel like just one day, Hannah Barbarra was like, let's just call it a fucking day here, close down bedrock, and they did.

I think Simpsons could get away with that if they wanted. Or do it in a movie form if you want to, they've earned that. They've earned the decision or the choice to do so. so I'm kind of cool with whatever. Did you see that thing? I don't know if we talked about in the basement a couple months ago, where Homer and Marge,

they basically changed their origin story from being growing up in the 70s to growing up in the 90s. And honestly, like, I'm now Homer. And I'm Homer. Everything I do and say, I'm like, up, I've become Homer Simpson in my life. And then I had in the animated realm, I think if the Simpsons ends, eventually it will, it takes what three four years until we get like old bark or something and we get like some kind of

spin-off they all are now doing stewie as a spinoff which my brain i'm a huge family guy person huge set macfarlane person especially following ted season two which it was like could ted work as a tv show they knock season one out of the park could they get another season out of it they knocked season two out of the park it was like i watched it i binged it so quick i trust set McFarland, I'll follow him into the fire. You're telling me we're doing a Stewie solo show, Stewie feels like at this point, if you watch Modern Family Guy,

sort of feels like the main character already. So I don't know, are they going to remove, like Stewie's not going to leave Family Guy, right? You can't pull him out of family. You can't do Family Guy without Stewie. So like, I'm cautiously optimistic. You know I'm in. I'm in for any Family Guy project.

I was in for the Cleveland show, and I didn't love that. But I at least I was in for it. So I'm very like, I guess just curious about what this could be. They said it's very, like, multiverse and time travel focus because that's kind of the Stewie's thing. A lot of people think, are they trying to do like a Rick and Morty style Stewie show? I can see that. And it's daycare, right? That's where it takes place.

Following Stewie through daycare. It's already greenlit for two seasons as well, which I don't know if that's just like we know people are going to watch Stewie or it's like it would make more sense if we spend the resources. It's not necessarily like a film two movies at once thing, but maybe it could be. I don't know. I mean, the other thing is, the thing is I think that Ted, they said, all right, that Ted was able to last as his own show. Yeah. Granted, there's with other characters. I guess we could do the same with Stewie.

I love Family Guy. I used to love it at least. I don't haven't watched it in years. So I think it could work, though. Like, why not? And I think, I think it could. It's just, it's so strange to me to have one without the other, either family without Stew or Stewie without family guy. Like, is, are we not going to see, like, Lois and Peter drop him off at daycare?

Is it just going to be every day that he gets to school? I just don't know. I can't visualize what this show would be. It would almost be like putting Stu in like an American dad, right? Or it's all Seth McFarren characters, but it's not the family guy characters that we know. You're building up a whole new universe for him to exist. It's a move. It's a move.

How funny would it be if they animate it way, David, it looks like the Clone Wars. Stu is just like fucking jacked for some reason or something. And Ted is getting a, uh, uh, I guess a sequel to the movies now. They're doing this year, it's dropping an animated TED show. So we have the live action TED. They're doing a cartoon TED that follows both movies and Mark Wahlberg's back and everything like that to do the voice.

There's so much love for the TED TV show that people want lore and like retcons for the movies. People are like, they got to refill the scene in Ted one with Ralph Gorman and the other lady as the parents of Johnny because they have different names and they're different. different people. We want them to George Lucas. I tweeted, could you imagine a couple years ago, me telling you, there's going to be a TED TV show streaming on Peacock that's going to be so beloved that people want movies, special edition George Lucas? Like, what? I love them both, but like, you don't have to fucking change anything about the movies, guys. Yeah, the movies were just fine.

I don't think anyone was like. Movies are great. Yeah. I don't know. And no, who cares about the lore of Ted. It's Ted. like Seth Ruffa far I guess he doesn't want to he probably at the point too

he's like I'm not going to come up a bunch of new stuff I got Stewie works Ted works we'll just expand them into other spots whether it's movies and other show whatever it may be so I guess good for him

not having to come because this is the thing so you said the Cleveland show who actually was an existing character how was how was American dad viewed now that it's still going on is it still I don't even know it's still going on and like

viewed through the roof Like the stock is so high in American Dad. There's a lot of people that think American Dad is way better than family guy. I'm not in that camp myself. I just like I haven't seen enough of American Dad. It's the one Seth McFarland show that kind of escaped me a little bit, the Orville too, I guess. But it debuted in a time where I was way too young to understand any of the political humor in the show.

And then it took me a long time to catch up anytime I watch it. I'm laughing my ass off and I'm constantly getting tagged in Steve Smith pictures. Because everyone's like, oh, you're Steve Smith. But it's definitely one that. that has evaded me, but has very high stock. Yeah, I was in it early because it was like, oh, the guys from Family Guy, I'd do another show. So I watched it.

It didn't really, like, hit with me. Just like Futurama didn't hit with me as a Simpsons guy. But I know there's people who are like, Futurama's the best show ever. Yeah, I'm kind of the same way as you with Futurama as well. Like, anytime I've watched it, I've laughed my ass off and really enjoyed it, but I've never, like, sat down and watched Futurama as a show. Also, speaking of animated things and Tom Cruise, we mentioned before,

Tom Cruise turned down a role in Invincible this season, which no, duh, he doesn't do TV. They tried to write him onto the Simpsons years ago because they found out he was a huge fan. He was like, no, I'm not interested in voicing himself. So they had to get someone else to voice Tom Cruise. He's just, I don't think he's ever going to do TV. I think he wants to be like a movie star until the day he dies. If I had told, like the way you set that story up, if you had told me, Tom Cruise has decided to go through a very rare surgery to make himself,

into a living cartoon character, honestly, I would have believed you. He's playing live action, Stewie. He's playing live action, too. It's like the, he just exists. It's like Roger Rabbit. He exists in the real world as a cartoon character. And he's doing it for, that's the thing, though. He would never do it for TV.

And he would never probably, he would do it for a movie. And that's because he's Tom Cruise. He's the most bad shit crazy person we have and just loves what he loves. So I guess. Yeah, they actually put him in Family Guy too. And now that I'm thinking about it, I think they put him in like Stewie's daycare. Like he was definitely like Stewie's height and family guy, which was he. That's good. That's good. Some superhero news, getting to the the nerdy stuff. I guess

animated stuff is a little, little nerdy. This pissed me off, Clem. I'm pissed off about this. Oh, did you hear that breath? He just took? Let me take a breath. All right, all right. Aaron Pierre, who we love from Rebel Ridge. He's going to be John Stewart and the new lantern show got confirmed for man of tomorrow. His John Stewart was. be brought back a man of tomorrow. Not shocking. I think we pretty much assumed you set him up in lanterns so you could bring him into one day be a member of the Justice League.

Zach fucking Snyder post this picture of the guy that was his green lantern in the Snyder cut, which is a scene they famously filmed on green screen in Zach Snyder's driveway, where he's like doesn't have a green lantern suit on. He's wearing like the motion capture pajamas basically. And they filmed this one quick scene with Green Lantern just like looking. I mean, he looks like Green Lantern. like don't get me wrong to Zach Snyder nails the visuals but there's no substance to this scene it's just green lantern as like a little easter egg at the end of the movie they pretty much did the same thing with martian manhunter which it's like a nice thing to dangle in front of the fans oh look it's green lantern it's martian manhunter remember these guys but it implies that they were just there for the entire step and wolf justice league disaster and just they had no interest in helping out they were just oh whatever and they didn't give us like a captain marvel oh there's plenty of other planets that need saving no it was just I'm standing there.

Oh, look at that. The Justice League did it again. It was a stupid thing that I don't even think was originally in the Snyder cut. I think it was like a, oh, shit, I have to put out the Snyder cut now. Let me fucking film a quick cameo in my driveway. It pissed me off to see Zach Snyder post this image and be like, what could have been? The day that Aaron Pierre gets announced as John Stewart in Man of Tomorrow. It's not enough for him to dangle this hope in front of his fans to be like,

oh, maybe the Snyder first could come back in some fashion. It can't, by the way. He now has to drag down other projects. He has to drag down Man of Tomorrow. He has to drag down an awesome new actor and Aaron Pierre. I shouldn't call him a new actor, new to me. And drag down James Gunn. Even his quotes about James Gunn, he's like, yeah, he's, you know, a visionary.

And he's the only one that could have done it like that. It's like, you know what you're doing with quotes like that where your fan base is reading between the lines on everything you say. It just, oh, my blood's boiling, club. My blood's boiling. I got to take a sip. Take a sip. Settle down, relax. And I'll just say, I believe.

you use this phrase. You might use a different phrase, actually, but I'll do it for you. I'm going to use a dad voice. Hey, Zach, cut it out. Cut it out. Cut it out. That's what I say.

Like, when I go to the kid. Knock it off. Yeah, knock it off. I think he's knocking up. Knock it off. Knock it off. I could say stop, separate all that a million times.

But until the cut it out or knock it off comes out, then you do the little bit of base in that voice to really just drop the hammer on them. Just cut it out, man. Just cut it out. And let me remind everybody. I really like 300. I really like Watchmen. I defended Man of Steel when it came out.

I defended Batman versus Superman when it came out. I think I even defended Justice League when it came out. And Justice League in the moment, I remember thinking like, ah, it was like fun enough as it was. It felt like an MCU. They were trying to make an MCU movie with the Joss Whedon, the one that went out in theaters. As soon as the Snyder cut came out and everything about his fan base,

the fan base and the way Zach Snyder has acted has made me turn on him. The movies themselves, I think are okay. I know there's some horrible, horrible, horrible things in the movies. But for like the most part of the movies, I could take them in, I could swallow them. I could leave them with things that I go, I really liked that. I liked how he did that. I liked how he did that.

I was trying to defend this guy for years, Clem. I would be like, ah, the morphic scene, not as bad as everyone makes it out to be in Batman versus McMahon. At this point, I don't even want to fucking defend the guy. He doesn't serve my defense. Well, this kind of great. goes into the other stuff with the Shalamey stuff where you think you have a group that just is just going to harp on stuff. I think we're just social media and the internet has just made us just I don't even want to get into these fights anymore where I'm just I don't even make jokes about the

sport. I agree. The sport stuff like the band out of bio stuff. Guy scored 83 points and immediately it was just like down the middle people on both sides argument like I just don't have the time for this. And then as a blogger even I'm just like what's the point of even like joking about it? He's just going to have people angry about it on one side of it. Everything's just black or white. it's just so whereas in erotically Jack Snyder the guy who loves his black and white I was gonna say black and white with Zach Snyder for sure

his ears perked up when I said that it's just so fucking tiring being in this world and the fact you hit him with the triple h for his movies horrible horrible horrible stuff in his movies and then you tried to like praise them in your own way you know Zach this guy

right here he's like well I'm trying to show him not like just this blind Zach Snyder hater But there is stuff that he's done that. You march for him. You have medals on you for like, you've defended absolute slop. It sounds like, again, I don't even. I'm just like, nope, not going to watch that movie. My guy Rob will go to the movies and then defend it to the core despite the, again,

horrible, horrible, horrible stuff that's in those movies. And at some point, it's just, you just have to just live and let live. You can't even get mad about this. It's one of his movies, Clem, going back to Watchmen in 2008 or 2009, every single one of his movies. The fans go, uh, well, the one in theaters wasn't that good, but if you watch his director's cut, Watchman, Batman, Batman, obviously the Snyder cut with the Justice League, even his fucking Rebel Moon movies for Netflix, where they were basically like, here's a blank check, do whatever you want. He was like, all right, I'll put out the three hour version in November,

and then the next month we'll put out the four and a half hour version. Shut up, Zach. Just make a good movie the first time. Don't make a director's cut that has to be, you have to watch this to get context for the regular movie to make sense. Oh, I can't even, we, we, we, you know, the move past the Snyder fans. This podcast is good, but if you get the Barstool gold version of it, that's where you really get the good stuff. Exactly.

Like, yeah, imagine we did that to everyone. We did that. We said, oh, but if you pay us a little extra, we'll give you the really good stuff. If you start a campaign,

if you tweet it Dave for 10 years in a row, release the My Mom's Basement Cut, then maybe you'll get the crazy stuff that you've never seen. Shut up. Join our Patreon. And that will give you the kids. Actually, knock it off,

knock it off. The director's cut. I had actually watched on Reddit someone posted the clip of the helicopter scene for me, myself, and Irene. I've never seen that movie. Oh, so I was in the comments and people were like

the great movie, very funny movie, very funny movie, I could say great probably. I remember liking it more. I probably liked it as much as like liar, liar. I really liked it a lot. And people said the director's cut of that movie is one of the funniest movies of all time. I'm like how and think

there's some raunchy parts of this movie or it's like a little pushing the envelope at least back then, which is probably crazy compared to now. I think we might have to do a watch of it. We might have to do so homework for the week. You and anyone else who hasn't seen me, myself and Irene, preferably

the director's cut. I don't know how I'm going to get my hands on it, but we have to get our hands on the director's cut and we have to just do a little, oh Bob, I'm kind of excited for you to watch this for the first time. Let me see if it's stream it anywhere. If I type in me, myself and Irene director's cut, Amazon has the special edition. Is that on Prime? It says Prime Video. I just don't know if it's the actual special. We'll find it, though. I'm excited to do a Jim Carrey movie I've never seen. They're kind of few and far between

for me at this point. I don't think you've seen liar, right? No, I don't think I've seen that one either. But that one, like, I've seen so many clips from that I can't, I don't know for sure if I've seen only clips from it or if I've seen the movie when I was kid or something. Me, myself and Irene, I know nothing about. I know the poster. I've seen the poster. Well, I'm doing everything I can as well, the final director's cut. So next week, well, next week we have Invincible. We're already starting into the sauce, but it won't be.

But this is kind of a fun, like, it's not basement related. Last week we told everyone hangover, go rewatch the hang. This week, it's like recommended some comedies, getting the laugh set. Yep. I still have to watch neighbors, too. And every single night this week, my wife or like my family always has something, a calamity come up or some random like someone's getting sick or someone had to be picked up later there was a random emergency so i'm dying to watch neighbors i am fucking part of me every night i just

look at the clock and that's the other thing the fucking clock that's why everything has really gone to shit because everyone's brain is out of order everyone's tired and by the end of the day they're just looking to go to bed i look it's like 915 pretty much everyone's in bed and i'm just like i didn't get it done i and i'm like i even said to her i was like i'll just watch my own she's like no no I really want to watch them. Like, all right. Like, okay, I'm making the back. If I don't watch neighbors by the end of this weekend, I'm just ripping it without her.

Like, you get the weekend. You got to do it sometimes. Yeah, we had car trouble randomly out of the blue. We had, uh, oh, we have a play tonight. Oh, man, I'm not, I'm just letting you guys know, spoiler. I didn't see. Give up a play tonight? Sienna's in Aladdin, Jr.

Very big. Oh, who is she playing? A big, a big role? Ensemble. It's her first year in the middle school. So you're kind of low man on the totem pole or whatever. She's very excited about it right now. Yeah, exactly.

Earning her dues right now. And she's nothing but, you know, excited about everything. Because I was like, do you want to do this? Do you want to quit? And she's like, no, I don't want to quit. So I'm like, all right? Well, yeah. Let's rock and roll here.

So me myself and I read. As an parent, like, Aladdin, there's much worse shows you could see than Aladdin. Like my middle school, I don't know what the fuck they were doing when I was in mid school. They did like Oliver Twisting by bye, Byrdie and like all these like 50s things that kids is like now. I think bye-bye, Birdie now. I'm like, oh, Elvis is in that movie, whatever. But as a seventh grader, I didn't give a fuck. Like, give us the Disney shit.

Yeah, but I'm with you on that, too. The only problem is they did Aladdin like two years ago in her elementary school. So I've already seen the goddamn play. And they're doing Shrek Jr. In the elementary school now when she's gone, oh, that would have been perfect. We're running it back with Aladdin, but whatever, it's fine. It's all about just seeing her on stage. Her first, her first ever, like, stage performance.

where she had like a role was a fiddler on the roof, which let me tell you, brother, you're talking about some crazy stuff. I was like, whoa. That's another one, yeah. Two and a half hours. I think we did that as well. But that was a professional play company doing that.

I could live with that because it was like literally all adults who were doing it. And then she was just lucking up to get one of the kid roles. You put that in like elementary school, be like, whoa, it's some heavy stuff right here. When I was in eighth grade, we were going to do one of the classic, I forget what it was. it was like a very classic Broadway show and not a lot of people auditioned like people just weren't into like the drama club or whatever kind of made me like sad like I wasn't auditioning I wasn't into it. I was just like oh damn people just don't care. It's like ballet and opera. People just don't care anymore. But the one person that the one person that auditioned and had like this, we had this girl with an amazing voice. Her name was suit away, I want to say.

And she auditioned and was so good. They said we're going to do Moulon instead. She was Asian. And they were like, this is just too perfect. where we got to give this girl Moulon. And they did it. And I got to be honest, it was awesome. I was saying, did like everyone start like signing up being like, oh, we're doing Moulon? Like, I'll actually join now. I think it actually did get more signups because they eventually did the plan. I remember like a bunch of my friends, we went and saw it and we were like, you know,

trying to act cool. But you were like, that was actually like pretty good. Shout out. Well, shout out to that girl, man. She fucking rocked. I remember she messaged a couple of us. We were all like pretty good friends with her. And she messaged a couple of us when she moved back to.

Japan. Like, I think it was after her, like, freshman year high school or something. We went to different high schools. And she was like, hey, just wanted to, like, say goodbye. I'm going to Japan again. And, like, I'm not, I think she said, like, I'm forgetting my English already. And I was like, all right, see you. She ended with Sionora? Yeah. And then I've got a couple, like, hypotheticals for you. So I saw Lewis Pullman was talking up Avengers Doomsday. And of course, he would because he's in the movie. But he said every character has their moment that builds the dimensions of them. The Russo brothers did that so well. They don't want anyone just sitting in the background. No like cameos. He's saying it's not a cameo fest. Everyone's got their moment, which is what the Russo brothers, I think, arguably do best.

It's what they did in Civil War so well. It's what they did in endgame and Infinity War so well. Infinity were obviously much more so than endgame because you're kind of going all over the map, different squads and stuff of that. So I wanted to ask you, if one of these movies could be a 10 out of 10 and the other one will be just, let's say, a 7 out of 10. Would you rather it be the Mandalorian and Grogu? Or Avengers Doomsday? Doomsday. Because I honestly have like, maybe it's because I don't really have high expectations for either, to be honest with you.

Like, do you have really high expectations for either of these? Yeah. No. I thought when I saw that smile, I thought this was the new Robbie, the one who's been beaten down over the years. I'm like hoping for a set, like seven out of ten I'd be completely fine with. This is my thoughts. Mandelorian and Grogu I think it's kind of just going to live on its own. I don't think we're really getting much.

Again, they might just try to milk this motherfucker for every dollar it's worth. I wouldn't be shocked by that. Doomsday has some stakes involved because then it rolls into Secret Wars, but then rolls into the next phase of the MCU. And guys, this is as much a professional thing and this is a personal thing. I can't do another phase like we just got through. It made me like question a lot of things about the choices I've made. And listen, guys, I'm living on Easy Street.

I completely realize that. But it's like, as, you know, the seventh Marvel show where we're like, by episode four, we're just trying to figure out, you know, ways to spin zone it. I'm just tired of spin. And if Doomsday comes, delivers and gives you those moments that I know what he's saying, too, an Infinity War when you get in the gardens and they're all interacting and every single thing means something. But you're having fun with it and it means something to the plot and the fights are good.

If they get that with this, with the Doomsday crew, that would be awesome. Mandelaarine, it's crazy to say, maybe it's probably because the Avengers have Infinity War and Endgame where Star Wars

doesn't really have anything that's like this in terms of movies other than maybe the original trilogy for me. I don't know how, I don't even know how Mandeloran gets to be

a 10 out of 10. Like, I don't know how it gets there. Do you see? I don't think the show, there was, actually, there was moments of the show

that were like 10 out of 10 moments. Oh yeah. But I don't know if I had watched all of whatever, what was it season two when Lou comes?

Like if I watched all that in one movie, I guess it might have been a 10 out of 10. I don't know if it even got there. The last two episodes of season two, like the pen ultimate of season two is when he goes with Boba Fett and he has to take the helmet off to talk to the fucking guy that shot Batman's parents. Yeah. That extremely tense, you know, I think if you put that combined with the finale, like that's close. That's like a 9 out of 10 maybe. Like I even think the first episode of that season with the crate dragon and Cobb Vant,

I think they've had like some 10 episodes. I think no matter of, what, if either one of these movies are a seven out of ten, the fan base is going to be insufferable about it. I do agree with you in that Doomsday is much more of a must win for Marvel than Mandelorian and Groku is a must win for Star Wars. I do think it's more of a must win than people are giving a credit for because I think people are already not all the way back in on Star Wars yet. I think it feels better than it did with Solo. When we did the Super Bowl episode, I said it feels more like Solo than it does the Force Awakens and the pre-hype. We're starting to

get better with that. I'm seeing a lot more Mandelaar and Grogu on the timeline every day. But I think people are not giving it the right respect in terms of like, not even respect is the word. If it bombs, it's bad news for Star Wars. People are like out on Star Wars at that point. Same thing goes for Marvel. So I think the stakes are like crazy high. But like you said, there's a direct follow up to Secret Wars that they got to start filming like, I think they start filming like this month or next month. So that is the must win. Like if Marvel, if Doomsday is an absolute disaster,

I don't know if Marvel claws back ever. Like, it might take a full reboot in the X-Men 10 years from now. I honestly think it'll probably resemble what Star Wars was a few years ago where it's like, all right, we have to kind of rethink everything. And I don't, Fagie,

I wouldn't say is on the, I think, I don't think he's on the hot seat now. I think that would put him on the hot seat, an absolute bottom. Oh, yeah. And like, Philoni and Favreau are like,

they're not new guys, but like, Faloni just got promoted to the head of Lucasfilm. If Mandelaar and Groguf, it's not what people want, people are going to rationalize in their minds and go, well, now we're in the Faloni era. That was the last of whatever. You know, people will like, be like, all right, now let's say her name. Say her name.

Who are they going to blame on her? They will. They will. And if it's good, it's going to be because of Faloni and Favro, right? Oh, 100%. She's going to get zero credit if it's amazing. What if I gave you the same question for The Odyssey and Beller? Dune 3.

That's a great question. What would I sign up for 10 out of 10? Yeah. 100% Odyssey. Odyssey's easy, right? Like a 10 out of 10 Nolan movie is like. Yeah, exactly. A 10 out of 10 Nolan movie and so many, like the third part of a trilogy, it does

leave you wanting sometimes and it does get weird. And I know the book is divisive to begin with, right? I was saying it's a different, it's a different book anyway and it's divisive anyway. So where it's like, Dune 1 and 2, you could just look at it's like a perfect masterpiece. They made the Dune book. this is the book that people like aren't fully in on there are a lot of people that are like it's an amazing book it doesn't deserve its divisiveness but yeah i agree with you like if dune three sucks i would be super disappointed don't get me wrong but it wouldn't ruin the first two for me i'd still go back and

watch the first two all the time exactly where i do have like i mentioned sixth grade social study shout up mr beryl i fucking loved the iliad and the odyssey so i have like skin in the game with this book i don't want them to fuck up i don't was it even a book or was it just a poem that people just memorize. I don't even know how. Yeah. It was an epic. And yeah, exactly. And that's the thing is the Odyssey, this thing hits 10 out of 10. This is something that's in the rotation when you're just going to throw on the background as you're doing stuff. And you're like, we, and with that cast, too, it's like, God damn, where Dune 3, it's awesome for Shalabay. It's great to have another like great movie like that and to wrap up a trilogy. But I don't think it's much more than that

where I do think the Odyssey could be an all-timer. I mean, Well, here it is. Well, your dark night reference of the week. So there would be our dark night, right? It's like something you always have on a Christopher Nolan classic, which I have to go back now because the inception wake up on the airplane meme is living on my timeline these days. Oh, I just rewatch that not too long ago. So fucking good.

I got to rewatch it. I haven't rewatched since. I don't know if I've ever rewatched it. How about that? I think I just saw it in the theater. I think it was my first rewatch as well. Dude, it holds up so well. Like it could get me, I bumped up talking about how good inception is right now.

You just watch that movie and you're like, yeah, this is exactly why Christopher Nolan is fucking Christopher Nolan. It's also like if the Odyssey bombs, I can't handle the discourse from people. Oh, well, that wasn't historically accurate. That was changed. Oh, my God. I can't handle that. And I know it'll come on the same, you know, two and three would have that as well. I don't think it would be to the level of the Odyssey.

Do you think the Snyder versus people get involved too? Probably they're going to fucking review bomb it like Ozzy men. Indies. They're going to fucking go crazy about it because, oh, Zach Snyder didn't get his director's cut for The Odyssey. He wanted to do this 25 years ago and they didn't let him do it. So now we're vindictive about it. Oh, my God. It's going to be so, yeah, I mean, everything at this point, like, you just almost have to like look in the future and be like, all right, now, what are like the critics and the haters and the trolls going to complain about? Just so that I don't, I'm going to like pre not get mad about this. And that's basically it. We have to figure it up. But man, oh, the Odyssey should be so fucking good. Are we doing? June's Day, by the way?

We have to. We have. I guess we have. Like, I wish, honestly, I wish they weren't coming out on the same day. Like, I, I don't think either one of them is going to change the release date at this point. But I think it's a little, like, annoying that we have to go see both in the same. I'm not excited about it. Like, Barbenheimer.

Like, I'm kind of just like, oh, fuck, we have to see both those in the same day. The only thing that saves us is the chance if we do get the screener for Doomsday. Like, we have gone in the past with Marvel. So at least it won't be our first viewing. But if it's our first viewing, like, I don't want it to, I don't want, because it's It's going to be the second one that's going to inevitably get hurt by it because we'll be fresh for the first. It's also just like I love both things so much. I don't like the idea that like people aren't going to be talking about Avengers because they were talking about Dune and people aren't going to be talking about Dune because they're talking about Avengers.

I just think this is like, I think this is stupid. Mutually assured destruction. It's essentially Oppenheimer playing out of life right now. Yeah. Why are we loaded up on noops on each other guys? Come on. Yeah. And then the only other story I had for today to step into my hater.

critic troll shoes and and complain a little bit. Quentin Tarantino's next project will reportedly be an old-fashioned British, British farce comedy play on the West End. He is negotiating with major stars to appear in the stage show. Tarantino, we've been telling you for years, we just want you to make this 10th movie that you say is your last one, even though nobody's putting this rule on yourself, but yourself. And now you're giving away your scripts to David Fincher and saying, I don't want to direct that one. You do that. You're scrapping other scripts like the movie critic and you're doing side quests on the west end. This is the sort of thing you do when your movie career is over.

When you make the 10th movie and you say, all done, which is stupid anyway, because people would come see the 11th and the 12th and the 13th movie if you wanted to do those. Don't be doing side quests right now. This is George R. Martin level where it's like, listen, we're not waiting on the final Tarantino movie like he's been promising it forever

or whatever. But like, don't fucking consult on a TV show. Finish that book, George. I feel the same way about Tarantino here. It's like, you're doing a West End show instead of making a movie while you still have fucking youth and you still not youth. But, you know, he's not Clint Eastwood in the director's chair. Like, what are you wasting your time for? He still has his facilities about him.

Is that what they say? Yeah. He still has everything going yet. I, the reason I laugh, he said that I was saying this is George R. Martin kind of stuff. It is. It's not a one to one comparison, but it's the same vibe of it all. It's a side quest. He's doing side quests.

It's like, finish the main storyline, bro. But this is the problem with the creatives like Tarantino. It's like the brain that you love that gave you all the stuff that was awesome. It's part of it as well. It has to be 10. And you don't, you wouldn't understand. I can't even get mad anymore. Would I feel differently about this if it was on Broadway?

Yes. If I could go see a Tarantino play, would I be more excited about it? Yes. Yeah, that would be pretty, yeah, that would be pretty cool. I think I'm going to go see Dog Day afternoon. Have you seen? the advertisements for the dog day afternoon they're doing on Broadway.

Dude, it's fucking cousin Richie and John Bernthal. Oh, that's good. Are you kidding me? I got to see that. Good. I didn't, I completely flew under my radar.

Completely. The bear and Punisher reunion for them. Yeah, double reunion right there. If there was one, do you think if Tarantino gave him true serum one movie he could take back just so then he could make,

this would be nine instead of 10 and then he could hold off on 10? Do you think they're really one? And it's still a weird number because Kill Bill, I think he counts as one, which is like, it's two movies, but he's like, I was one in my mind. One movie he could take back. He has said for a long time that he would, like, he was talking a long time about doing Reservoir Dogs as a stage play and then maybe adapting that into a movie, which was another, like, weird thing. I feel like he looks back at Reservoir Dogs like he would change things, which is weird to me because that's my favorite Tarantino movie, like, easily. And it's the one that would work the best is.

stage play. I think he would probably answer that, though. And I just feel like that was the one that not really that set him up to be able to kind of do. And again, I don't know. There could be more Tarantino diehards that would completely disagree with that. But I just feel like that was the one that was, all right, Tarantino's here. And then Pulpiction gets mad. And then it's, you know, he's on, he's on fucking the fast track. I'd still love to see like what would a Tarantino directed true romance look like? Yeah.

That's adding a movie. If you're adding a movie. I always think curious about that. I'm with you. I got to rewatch that movie as well. I never saw, what is it? Deathproof. Death proof, yeah.

So that was released like him and Robert Rodriguez did like a double feature. Deathproof Grindhouse Presents. It was death proof and Planet X or Planet Terror. And that's one of his nine? I think that it does count as one of his. Well, that's my fucking answer. That one is, it would be my answer as well. Actually, I would probably say the hateful eight.

I didn't like the hateful eight. like one of the only Tarantino movies I don't like. Death Proof I like, but only to a level. Death Proof has such a ceiling. It's like his version of an old school grind house movie with Kurt Russell. It's like this car is fucking driving after people and trying to get. It's almost like a,

what's that movie, Christine almost? Like where the truck is after the person. It's like one of those, but the car's fucking souped up and Kurt Russell's given a great performance in it. It's just like so campy and schlocky on purpose. So it's like, you can't enjoy it to the level where you're like,

this is a masterpiece. I'm sure if you like that genre of movies, you really like it. But death proof is a movie I've seen probably twice ever. And no real urge is to like rewatch that. Like it's a Pulp Fiction or even like a Once Upon a Time in Hollywood or a Django or an inglorious, any of those. Yeah, that's the thing. Like I'm saying that as someone that hasn't even seen it.

Hey, Flee would have been my second choice because it's the other one. It's worth a watch. Like eventually like just seeing it because it's like Tarantino going balls to the wall. But yeah, it's not like a rush to theater or rush to fucking Netflix to watch deathproof. Yeah, death proof, I just got lost in my radar. 2007, I mean, I was working at the time, and I guess I just probably didn't even know about it that much. Hateful aid, I remember I heard how long it was.

Was there an intermission in it? Yes. And that was a year after Sienna was born, so movies were not a thing for me for years after that. I really didn't like hateful. It's a weird, like, it's a weird boring movie, I think. And I think a lot of people in the office actually agree. We were talking about Tarantino movies not too long ago. Django I have to rewatch too

That's another one that Django is one of my all-time faves Goes And Pulp Fiction is the top five favorite movie of mine No doubt about it top five Yeah All right, that's all I had for this week The Com Before the Storm is a fun episode

I had fun hour, baby I made an hour We got an hour out of yeah Not a ton of news stories They set the clem before we started recording I don't know We might have to stretch some of these stories But we didn't really have to

I just the passion was flowing from me Zach Snyder The blood fucking pumping Because we're in Marty's mom's basement. Hashtag Marty's mom's basement. Shout out, Marty, most. Shout out all the listeners. And we will be back next week to talk Invincible.

And I believe we'll probably have a Spider-Man trailer before our next episode. At least the rumors say we will. It'll probably drop fucking two seconds after we hang up this call. Don't forget your homework. Me, myself and Irene, directors cut, if possible. If not, whatever you can get your hands on. Can I hear a Marty talk about Quarantarantarantor impression from you? I really can't do a good.

Marty. I don't think I can't. Oh, Robbie. He, what would Marty say about Tarantino? Ah, he would say, ah, he does too much sometimes. He would probably say something like that. Marty has such funny movie takes weekend. We get Marty in the basement because recently he was saying what detracts for him. And he was saying any kind of like timeline fuckery if you're doing too many flashbacks. He's like, I'm taking points off the movie. He says, if he sees a horse, he's like, if I see a horse, I'm taking points off. I was like, you see a horse point off. I don't want to see. He's like, I don't want to see these horses in this fucking Why why they ride horses? He's such fun, and he's like serious about it.

It's so funny. He's turning into the male version of Mama Foxing your impersonation. Yeah. See, I can't do it. Like, I could do the Jersey. I can't do the Long Island. And the Marty Mush is like a Long Island accent of its own. You know, it's so unique.

It's its own. I can't really do it. Species, essentially. I can't like the horses. I don't like the hateful eight. There's only seven of them. I don't know why there's seven, but there's a. Who do he say?

Who do he say? Oh, oh, that, that Zed. He's a real rat dog. Oh, RIP to the Gimp. Did you see the Gimp? I did see the Gimp passed. Right after Z-D die, too, right? Yeah.

Damn, shame. They're dropping. Rest and peace to all of them. All right. We will be back next week. We'll talk me, myself, and Irene, Invincible, and more. See you there.