My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 492 - DAREDEVIL SEASON 2 PREMIERE/INVINCIBLE S4E4 RECAPS

Episode Date: March 27, 2026

The Basement Boys recap and discuss Clem's day at Citi Field today, the #DaredevilBornAgain Season 2 premiere, #Invincible Season 4 Episode 4, #ProjectHailMary (no spoilers), and even Dazed and Confus...ed this week! ****************************************   My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike!   Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners. You can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement, presented by Barstool Sports, and a very, very special episode of My Mom's Basement today. I'm your host, Robbie Fox, alongside my main man, Clem, and we have a packed episode, Daredevil, the return of Daredevil, Born Again. We've got Invincible, Season 4, episode 4, I believe it is.
Starting point is 00:00:30 We've got Project Hail Mary at the end of the podcast, which I said, well, keep spoiler-free, because I know it's still fresh. Tickets are still sold out everywhere. And then dazed and confused, my homework for last week, a movie that I had never seen before, finally watched it. We will also discuss that today. Clem, it's the second year in a row that you have gone viral for taking your son to opening day as a surprise. But this year in a much different way.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Yeah. I almost, I was so close not to post in the video for people that didn't see. last year he was so excited. I took him out of school, had a little fake ticket printed out opening day, Juan Soto, Jersey, his birthday. He was in school because the game was later. I wanted him to have like a half day.
Starting point is 00:01:11 And to be honest, I wanted myself to have a half day without kids, and then I could take him. Today was a 115 game, so it was like, we're not even going to bother with school. And I told him, and this is how the YouTube brain works.
Starting point is 00:01:23 He paused YouTube. You could hear him. I'm like, can you pause it, bud? He pauses YouTube and, hey, buddy, we're going. Good news, bad news. Bad news. Don't got to go to school as a joke.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Good news is you're going to the Mets opening day, which some people would say is bad news. And as a Mets fan, and he's just like, yay. And then you see him just fumbling with the remote to unpause. Keep pause it for a sec, bud? I got good news and I got bad news. The bad news is you can't go to school today. The good news is we're going to opening day.
Starting point is 00:02:02 And I'm just like, man, the 2025 Mets sucked every ounce of enthusiasm out of that kid from last year's reaction. But it did it to a lot of us. It was a good right of passage. It is a reminder of just what it's like being a Mets fan. He's already showing his scars at the age of seven years old. So it was very funny. You got to win, though. Got to win.
Starting point is 00:02:27 It looks scary at the beginning of the game. It looked very scary right away. But you got to win. 2-0. Our new pitcher of Freddie Peralta, who we traded two big, prospects for gives up the home run to start the season. And then they score five in the bottom of the first, run Paul Steens out of the game, send him home to, send him home to Libby, poor guy.
Starting point is 00:02:45 And then, uh, Mets win. The Mets have, by the way, I don't know if you know this. The Mets have by far the best opening day record of all the teams of baseball. It's one of those like almost ironic or like evil things the baseball guys do is they build us up just to break us down. Um, and in very, I was going to blog this actually. actually in extreme Mets fashion. Because you never, like, as you know, Bob, like, I understand like sometimes, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:15 some people at this company may ham it up about how bad the Mets are, or not even ham it up, just lose their minds, legitimately lose their minds. But let's be honest, we've all watched the Mets and we know, like, when something bad happens, it's always different when it hits the Mets. So infamously, two years ago on opening day, we had the veteran of the day for opening day. which they honored him. His name was Seymour Wiener. And we're like, are you like, was this real?
Starting point is 00:03:40 But his credit, he was a great sport about it. It sounds like he's been dealing with, you know, those kind of things this whole life. And it was the beginning of the mean season. That was Grimmis, hot to a girl, the Mets Pimp. There was all these just crazy characters came into our life with the NLCS. So this year, obviously we're at the game. And you'd appreciate this one. I don't know if you saw it.
Starting point is 00:04:01 The National Anthem was sung by, a guy who was played George Washington and Hamilton. And as he's singing the national anthem, I'm like, did he just change the word? What's going on? And I see everyone saying to like their friends, like, did he just like skip a verse? And I don't know, he just, you know, rockets, red glare, banner, you know, things are waving. I don't know where he's going. The guy who, I mean, you just can't make it up.
Starting point is 00:04:30 The guy who plays George Washington matches up the national anthem. It's like not just some random guy. He's not some random singer. George Washington messes up the national anthem. But the mess up, like you said, he just cut the bridge. What he did was he hit the radio edit on it. He wasn't like his voice was bad. He sounded good, but he hit the rain.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Look, this is us. There he is. That's the 1776 edit. That's what it was when George was president or 1783. Whenever he'd be in president. But like so I think someone said, George was dead and buried by the time the National Anthem actually came out. So to his credit, he shouldn't know the lyrics.
Starting point is 00:05:08 He was learning on the fly. Just like, and I saw it. Did two birds fly into each other and one died on the field today? That was the other Mets thing. So we're at the game and I see like something on the field and the entire crowd just like going crazy and like cheering. And I think someone threw something on the field and it could be a delto, you know, Buffalo Bill style could be a, I thought it was like a giveaway or.
Starting point is 00:05:30 And everyone's like celebrating with what's going on. Turns out there was a pigeon. flying as tends to be in New York City. And we also have these hawks that have nested in city field. Well, the hawks saw the pigeon and decided it was lunchtime. Oh, no. Went down. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Hawks ain't other birds like that. Birds of prey, dude. You know, I'm a birds of prey guy. Bird guy. You are. You are a bird's a prey guy. Birds of prey guy. I appreciate the, what's it called?
Starting point is 00:06:00 The food pyramid or not the food pyramid, the food chain. Circle of life. The circle of life. The food chain. and he killed one of those flying rats out of the sky, and it landed 10 feet away from our brand new right field prospect, who is 20, like, two years old and playing his first major league. Welcome to the Mets, Carson Benj.
Starting point is 00:06:20 This is what your life will be. The unexpected, the unexpected. So, yeah, we have George Washington forgetting the national anthem, a bird killing another bird. Mets win, just another opening day in Metsland. And A.J. went viral. Dick Portnoy, like, was sure, was like, oh, Mets fans sure sound excited.
Starting point is 00:06:39 The, I'm getting all the mentions blowing up. I think it's going to be on Jimmy Kimmel tonight, apparently. So it's, AJ is just like, his head is spinning. It's going to be on Kimmel tonight? Apparently, that's what I was told. Oh, my God. My mom got a phone call and was like,
Starting point is 00:06:55 hi, you know, saw your son's video. I'm like, why are they going to touch with your mom? I have no clue, Rob. It's, like, kind of scary that that's how it has. my God. But here we are. Last year, AJ, like went viral. He had people to Mets game last year, like pointing him,
Starting point is 00:07:10 hey, man, I saw your video. Yeah. I can't believe that happened again in a different. And I'm kind of addicted to the rush of giving him opening day tickets. But at the same point, after that reaction, like, I think it's lost its charm. Now, if they win the World Series, but I need a little more of a reaction. I was this close to not posting it, truly. I was like, I don't want this to be L-O-W.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Well, Mets, Yankees fans, dunking on Mets fans. And, but you know what? If the kid gets on Kimmel, that's worth it for himself. And I was like, do you see you tweeted this, right? He goes, Dave Portnoy. They love Dave Portnoy. They don't even, not even sure what Dave Portnoy does. They just love the name Dave Portnoy.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Can I talk to Dave Portnoy? They know he's my trivia partner and my boss. That's about it. That's so funny. I found out today that I live in a Mets town, the town I moved to train station this morning. I said, oh, let me wear my Yankee out. Big win last. night opening day today i even got my yankee socks on and i didn't see a single yankee jersey single
Starting point is 00:08:09 yanky shirt single yankee hat i probably saw 15 met's you know different uh pairs of dues i saw hats i saw uh someone had like a dent like a jean short like thing like the mess logo on the back i was like what the fuck i moved to a metstown i you know jersey is kind of like a borderless place where anything flies i even say like yeah there might be more yanky than anything where Long Island is obviously the Mets stronghold. I'm pretty surprised by that, though, that it is a clear orange and blue leaning part of the state. But yeah, I mean, we're the Mets gypsies up here north of Westchester where I was always those Mets giants.
Starting point is 00:08:50 And that's weird. So that's the luck behind enemy lines, Bob. The Yankee socks. I love the socks thing. Oh, yeah. You have fun? Yeah. I love that.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Dude. And you know what? I've had these for like 10 years. years and longer maybe awesome i was looking at a j's outfit as he was going up and he had like a met shirt on and shorts because he was so excited he wore shorts it was such a nice day r2d2 socks up to the knees i'm like my guy that's your son yes he really has uh he really has grown on me over the years so anyone that watched you know the early years of pod fathers it took a little while for him to even get his quote unquote pinstrips as you guys like to say nicky's land but he has him in spades
Starting point is 00:09:35 right now. He had to earn him. Then the number one spot in the power rankings for a long time was, it was like when we're in Bruno San Martino's chance. There was years there. Yeah, everyone was looking up. Sienna was Andre the giant for us forever. I don't even went for the strap when Andre held. We're going to basically skip nerd news this week and get right into Daredevil because like I mentioned at the front, we've got a lot to get into. I did just want to say I spent most of my day yesterday arguing with Lord of the Rings fans and Snyderverse fans. Like I basically was just like, I said to you, I was just taking BP against them. I was just ripping shots all day because it was the 10 year anniversary of Batman v. Superman,
Starting point is 00:10:18 which unleashed insane takes. People were basically crediting it with saving the world and inspiring every movie that ever came after it. And nobody, if anybody didn't like the movie, it's not like they didn't like it. It's just they didn't understand it. They didn't understand how deep it was, you know? I I I I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I heard from the Game of Thrones fans early in the final season about how we were the wrong ones like these guys, at least like those people saw the light, you know, even though they couldn't see the light in the battle the winter fell. Yeah. These fuckers are still just in the dark, which is the weirdest. I'm, I'm officially like scared of these people, but not because of how crazy they are because of how like lost that it's like delusional. There's people that and I don't even think they're bots. I think they're real people that have dedicated a Twitter account to just tweet. about how awesome Zach Snyder is and how much everyone else in the movie business is inferior
Starting point is 00:11:10 for the last 10 years. You look on some of their accounts. You scroll down months and months and months, not a single tweet about anything but Zach Snyder. There's no director that has that, which, like, he's not the most popular director. He's not even close. Like, no one fans are like that. Like, you know, it's just, that was great.
Starting point is 00:11:27 And then Lord of the Rings, I just, at this point, I don't even have hatred in my heart for a Lord of the Rings. It's just, it's become the bit. It's become the funny thing for me where I see they hired Stephen Colbert and his son to write their next movie. And I just said, what a joke of a franchise. And I knew about it. I got people riled. I paired it with their clerks too.
Starting point is 00:11:46 There's only one return. And it's of the Jedi and of the King gift. And I just knew it. I can get people riled up about that one. So that made me. And Ken Jack hit me back. He was like, but remember when they brought back Palpatine in Fortnite?
Starting point is 00:12:00 And I was like, that's a fucking fair shot. That's a fair shot. But I said, hey, at least. Jimmy Fallon's not right in episode 10. I mean, I didn't realize you through the J word. And I like Jimmy Fallon. I'm a Fallon guy, but come on. I do not like Jimmy.
Starting point is 00:12:16 I'm not talking about Jimmy, though. I was on a joke. Oh, yeah. Another franchise, like that is, you play ball like a girl from the Santa, like calling it a joke. I think that you might have crossed the line there. It's like saying it to the best players,
Starting point is 00:12:31 the franchise that has like 19 Oscars or some crazy shit like Like, I know what I'm doing, guys. I know, I'm not fucking delusional here. But I have to admit. Like, when I saw that, I thought it was honestly fake. Like, I thought it was Wong up pizza or whatever. I thought, exactly. Discussing fish.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Yeah. And it was variety. And I'm like, all right, variety's getting in on this game of, like, fake news too. And I, listen, I didn't realize Colbert is like, I see if he's like a super-duper diehard, right? The most diehard of all diehards. It was a thumb of the nose towards, like, you know, the government, because he's being shut down and all the government stuff that happened during it.
Starting point is 00:13:09 And honestly, I don't know. I honestly just don't care. I haven't watched this show. I heard the show's good. I don't have the elite, the hatred in my heart for Lord of the Rings, like the diehard Star Wars people do like you. I also like, obviously I have my own problems with Star Wars as it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:27 It's just those movies are long and they are just not for me. I read the motherfucking hobbit when I was in middle school. So trust me, I do love that world, but I, it just not for me. Our boy, did we get a T-Bob, like, comment? I don't know, because he's been in Disney. He's been posting funny figures from Disney and his, in his robes. He's in Potterland, too, because he's literally dressed as a wizard in Harry Potter. Yeah, he's like, a Fez-on in one of them.
Starting point is 00:13:55 I was like, what is that? Is that from Harry Potter? I mean, I just like, you know, buy my son opening day tickets to day up. He took all his kids down to Disney and becomes a legitimate. wizard. I'm like, he is such a better dad than me. He is such a better hang than me. I love but he, I think some of those like beers were going down a little, he was drinking him a little faster just to ease the pain of, of all this. I don't, I don't even, I don't understand it. But is it like, I think, again, to the people screaming at the YouTube or the podcast, I don't
Starting point is 00:14:27 know my, this was like I was diving into Dune. I think they did they do a couple things that were a little like, oh, that guy's in charge of that. Like, I think recently some of their projects have been in. People didn't really like The Hobbit and people don't really love rings of power. Oh, no, that's what it was. We were talking about this briefly before we got to leave the other day. It was like, wasn't any circus in charge of the Gallo movie because he played Gallup. That's this movie, I think.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Oh, that's this movie. I think, yeah. So that, I didn't realize this was all locked in together. That just seems odd. Like, what a weird duo. Yeah. maybe it is the fucking future of franchises in Hollywood we shall see but yeah it's it's good eating for Star Wars fans right now because you guys and listen I listen I am a Star Wars fan
Starting point is 00:15:16 I also have like come to the realization that I am an original trilogy Star Wars fan that would re we reshoot both prequel and sequels if it was up to me or watch the toby cut is it toby McGuart no it's not Toby McGofer it's a Tofer and then someone made the sequel trilogy cut and just be very happy or in my head canon episode four or five and six all that happens but for you guys i'm truly happy for you like i love when the people are fighting on the timeline it's the girl fights and i'm the guy smoking the bowl in the corner like that's me right now having the time i'm like watching you guys duke it out and you're going at the stydiverse you're going two front war bob i know i was john snow can you cannot win a two front war we learned this
Starting point is 00:16:01 in world war two do not do it bob do not Do it. I was just going down with the ship. I was just having a blast, to be honest. I just felt like I was dunking on people. I mean, that's the thing. I don't think you, you, I don't know if it's a respect thing or a fear thing or both.
Starting point is 00:16:17 I don't think you fear or respect either of those fan bases. And I also, I don't really like, I guess, of course, I'm passionate about Star Wars, but I'm like, there's not actual hatred in my heart. I just really find it fun. I find it's like, it's like, you know, It's sparring. It's not a real fight.
Starting point is 00:16:36 It's just like, we're having fun here. We're fucking get a few shots in. I'll get a few shots in. Keep the brain sharp. Remember some of the good chirps. I like getting it in every now and that. You remind everybody fucking Star Wars till I die. And you always know you have the clerk's video in your back pocket.
Starting point is 00:16:51 The clerk's video is the ship that launched a thousand, whatever? Yeah. Like it really is. The face that launched a thousand chips, you know. All right. Let's get into Daredevil. Born again, season two premiere. Really good reviews for the season came out before this premiere.
Starting point is 00:17:10 But the sentiment that a lot of them had was it's got a slow start to season two, but it eventually revs up into high gear. So I was trying to temper my expectations for the premiere itself. And maybe I tempered them too much, but I thought this was awesome. Like I said, I don't want to call it great. I don't want to use that G word yet because if everyone's saying and everyone is in agreement that it just keeps getting better. I don't want to use it yet.
Starting point is 00:17:34 We're going to use that this season. I'm very confident of that. So I'm going to say the finale, or not the finale, the premiere was very good. I was very satisfied with some of the character stuff we got, some of the action stuff we got, some of the cool camera work and things like that we got. I was really happy with it. Yeah, fight scene was legit good. I guess I put the heavy capital G good.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Good. I was going to say solid. I don't think solid's being fair enough to it. I think it was good. I think if you went it with low expectations, it was probably very good in your mind. Yeah. I heard what you heard. My guy Kyle said, I think the review he had read was first two episodes,
Starting point is 00:18:10 it gets its feet under it, it hits the gas in episode three, and it doesn't let up the rest of the season. I'm like, all right, if we're hitting that pace, and you told me, and I obviously have seen it since, next week, episodes two and three come out together. And I said, this feels like a big deal, because if you're going to just lump the first couple together just to get it out there and get everyone caught up, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:18:34 If you're putting two together, I feel like there's a reason maybe a cliffhanger you don't want to hang too long or whatever it may be. I feel like we're, I'm going to try to get the hopes too high, but I feel like we're about to like, again, pedal to the medal. And I think this is going to be awesome because it leads directly into the Punisher special, which is, I believe, the week after the finale. It's like, all right. If you missed the Punisher in season two, here he is for 60 minutes, just Punisher.
Starting point is 00:18:59 and that's the one where John Bernthal's got like some creative control. I think he maybe co-wrote it. I think that could be cool as well. And then after that, not too long after that, we're getting him in Spider-Man brand-new day. Me and Jake Bass were talking about it in the office today. We're like, we're fucking eaten here. It's Daredevil, Daredevil, Daredevil, Dier-Defel, Punisher, Spider-Man. And the Punisher's in Spider-Man, so it's all going to feel connected.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Daredevil's probably in Spider-Man. I'd be surprised if he wasn't at this point. And I feel like it's all going to be like street-level and it's all going to have the same characters. that needs to continue, I think. I think if you're going to go to space, scheduled the two or three space, you know, franchises that are going to revolve around each other, I think that could be a way to really do some cool shit.
Starting point is 00:19:41 And again, not everything needs other characters from other shows. I don't think it's a bad thing. Even it's for an episode or a cameo in the movie or whatever it may be. It just makes you feel like you're in Marvel land right now. And it's an advantage they have on DC because DC is still setting, up everything. DC's kind of doing it. They've done it a few times where it's like, all right,
Starting point is 00:20:01 there's the, uh, what's not the Justice League? What's the, the bunk Justice League that they had? Oh, the justice gang? Just stay. Yes. So like they're still establishing themselves and they're, they're doing it in their own way. But you guys have, oh shit, there's pottersher. There's there, there's Spidey. And they're all in New York City. It's very cool. Very cool thing. And I love that as well. Like having a corner of the universe in New York and knowing your New York heroes, then you could eventually get to a point where you introduce like the West. Coast Avengers and things like that. Also, when you do a street level show,
Starting point is 00:20:31 you avoid, for the most part, one of the main criticisms against Marvel right now, which is like, ah, that CGI mess, the fucking CGI monster, CGI, this CGI, that AI slop looking, whatever. It's like, there's not a lot of it. You know, the CGI is much more subtle in a show like this.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Or people aren't fucking turned into lava monsters or do, we'll get the lava monsters. And it's on my mind. But, you know, the stuff used in this episode it's used to make punches look a little faster or, you know, a knife to get thrown in the room or something like that. It's much more subtle, basically. I wonder if they slimmed my boy Vince down a little much, just a little extra with his kingpin at some point because he was looking fit at
Starting point is 00:21:16 one point, you know, last season. Remember how fit he was looking? He was talking about, I'm not even thinking the suit is heavy on him. I didn't realize how much they're adding to him, but apparently him and Colin Farrell became friends for talking over like, oh, yeah, Snuck's putting a fucking heavy suit on, doesn't it? Didn't play a much bigger guy. Well, obviously, Colin Farrell, I think, had a lot more. His whole face was getting changed and everything like that. So maybe a little stolen valor on Vincent DiNo, but let's kind of go through.
Starting point is 00:21:44 I have some notes for the episode. I love the BB Yurig report to start, sets the scene well. All of those reports are good. I like, again, that, like, New York is kind of a character in this, kind of like it is in the Sam Ramey Spider-Man movies. And then you immediately, they don't waste any time to give you the black suit. It's not like, oh, we're going to show him spray painting it and why he did. It's like, no, here's the fucking black suit.
Starting point is 00:22:06 He's going after a ship that's got a bunch of guns on it. You get a bone break right away to remind you, you're watching a TVMA Marvel show. This ain't your mom's Marvel show or whatever. And it was cool the way he like escapes narrowly after they fucking flood the ship, washes up on shore. We find out the ship was for Fisk. And, you know, they were trying to get weapons into Red Hook. I thought it was a cool way to open everything up.
Starting point is 00:22:29 It was cool, but I have to admit, being blind and a shipwreck is a horror I've never dreamt of. And that's some nightmare shit right there. And the way they show it, the way he did hear them above him, and they do the aspect ratio change again, where they remove the black bars, zoom in, almost the jaws like vertigo shot on them,
Starting point is 00:22:48 and then they bring it back. That was cool. And then later on in the episode, there was a couple shots of Heather Glenn when she's losing it, when she's seeing muse, when the camera does that dip down and she's staying and then it comes back up to kind of show like she's losing it here she goes like that was fucking cool again like I believe the directors that
Starting point is 00:23:06 did this were the ones that brought back porn again they're like the main team that did this and I feel like you can tell an improvement when they're directing episodes yeah and like you said with the suit too it's like in um super smash brothers where it's like I don't have to unlock every single suit it's just I can just choose all these cool things oh there's Dr. Mario he's What am I real guys? Like, you're not just having to work for it. Don't make us work for too much, guys. We have a lot of cool shit.
Starting point is 00:23:30 You have to unveil. You have a lot of projects lined up. Just, like, drop it. And then we're like, all right, we're cooking. But you know what? If you want to switch back to the Daredevil throwbacks, do that. Want something new? Do that as well.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Things like the symbiote suit and other stuff like that, that requires the moment, I'd say. Don't need that for every single thing in Marvel, because we got a lot of stuff. And this, yeah, it's as soon as you see the black suit, you go. Yeah, there's a vigilance. anti-end he's fucking off the grid a little more than he used to be and it was nice to just get him in the suit right away because last season and this isn't a complaint for mine but we didn't get him in the suit a lot last season like a lot of the season was spent with him in the courtroom him as
Starting point is 00:24:07 matt murdoch getting back to being daredevil and i was okay with that i thought they told a good story there was nice to see him fucking kicking ass breaking bones were there were there a lot of criticisms about that because i remember i was saying at the time like he's not been in the suit as much or handling it and it didn't bother because i did enjoy the other stuff i really enjoyed the actor or character. So it was cool with me. I guess everyone's going to complain about something. Probably the people.
Starting point is 00:24:29 I think there was some, but I don't think there was a ton. It's the Robbies that hate Marvel. You were the people that you've been sure, but that version of you that are the anti-Marvel people were probably like, he doesn't even wear the suits. And how about this? Everyone's confused about this now because Charlie Cox is going out there and he's promoting season two on, I think, gone Camel on a few different talk shows.
Starting point is 00:24:52 He's gone on things with Vincent Donofrio. and Charlie Cox has this big beard in all of the promotional material. And a few people have brought up, aren't you filming season three right now? And he's been like, yep, we're filming the other day. I was filming a fight scene where, you know, I didn't have the mask on. And I had to not look at anyone. He was talking about how hard it was to act blind, where he didn't have anything on, not the mask, not the glasses.
Starting point is 00:25:14 And everyone's going, oh, so season three, Daredevil's having a fucking big beard. And there's some comic runs where he's got a beard and he looks fucking badass. So it's almost like every season they're giving you a different. version of Daredevil from the Netflix show giving you the you know the black bandana around the eyes eventually they bring that back in the Netflix show but you get the red suit you've now got the black suit I assume one day they'll give us that we got the gold suit and She-Holt and they're just going through again they're showing you daredevil's got a fucking arsenal of costumes and we're going to give them all to you I love that I love and again
Starting point is 00:25:45 I'm not a daredevil guy but like if they handle the wolverine stuff where they're going through all the I mean they did the little Deadpool things right where they had all the different Marines and I was geeking out for that. So our boy Goldfinger, right? Our boy Goldfinger is having by the time of his life right now. As you're saying that, I'm like, oh, actually, as you said, I'm not a Daredevil guy. We've got a coworker over in Chicago, Sam Goldfinger, who's the biggest Daredevil guy I've ever met.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Like he'll throw out every hero in Marvel NBC if he could keep Daredevil. He cares. Also known as Mincy's Pillow on. Minty's pillow, yes. He was so fired up. He sends me and Ken Jack this picture. Oh, wow. he fucking loves daredevil he's got the whole frank miller run he's got some signed by him
Starting point is 00:26:31 he's got some c garrative he's like the daredevil and he was losing it over he was like that was fucking awesome we're gonna be eating i was doing research on everyone in the season i love it he's got so much passion about daredevil um again the funny funny dude in the b b bierc report after all of this where he's talking about diapers in the east river he's like we've got diapers in the East River is doing such a New York accent. Love that. Matt and Karen fully back on. Fisk labels the boat attack a terrorist attack.
Starting point is 00:27:02 And I love what as soon as he calls it a terrorist attack, Gandalfini and Sheila hit each other with this look that I've seen before. I've just like, all right, whatever he says. Like the look they shared was like, we know this is wrong. But all right, we're going to run with that. That look has probably been shot by so many governments. officials in this. I'm not going to go full two.
Starting point is 00:27:24 I'm not saying just this girl. I'm saying the U.S. government's across the world for all kinds of shit. We're going to spin this and just, you know, blame something else. And it's like, all right, whatever you got to do to, you know, keep getting elected or, you know, attack the people you want to attack, essentially. Our boy, Matt, I was going to start a body count for him this season. And it's one. He already took it down one, one young lady.
Starting point is 00:27:50 I feel like he's going to be, uh, monoccurment. I don't feel like this isn't going to be a mad, a slimy season. I could be wrong, but the count is one just so we know in case I am wrong on this. I mean, if he keeps going after ladies, eventually, like, he's not beaten the fake blind accusations. He keeps going after these beautiful ladies. It's like, aren't you blind? It's crazy. We got Matthew Lillard.
Starting point is 00:28:17 How about this? They bring in Matthew Lillard, and they have him dominate Fisk, not only. in his office, but in his own home. I know I'm skipping ahead a little bit with that. We don't have to go completely in order here. I love Mr. Charles coming in and just saying fucking brash, bold shit in front of Fisk
Starting point is 00:28:34 in front of Fiske's wife in front of Vanessa. And the face that he had Fisk every time I cut to him was just like, I can't stop this train from rolling right now. Like, what am I doing? I thought he played it well. It's like fucking Shaggy came and dominated Wilson Fisk. So I
Starting point is 00:28:50 was like, I didn't realize him at first. Like the first scene when he, even the first two scenes when he puts his phone in the drink in Washington, and then when he first goes into the office and just basically walks all over everybody. He walks over his right, Kingpin's right hand, man, and then, you know, Kingpin and Vanessa, I think, I don't know if Vanessa is there. Anyway, and then when they went back to the house and they're talking, and I'm like, that's the dude from scream. And that's, that's all. And now that you had said it, Shaggy, That guy was like the face of the 90s could be a million different people.
Starting point is 00:29:26 But he's like the lesser face of the 90s where it was like you were watching just random reruns on Comedy Central or MTV. And that was the face you saw. And let me tell you, Bob, I love it. I love, I wrote Mr. Charles rules in all kinds of. Before I realized it was this guy. I think as of now, this is a Mr. Charles show for me until further. until a further review. Daredevil, Kingpin, you know I love them both.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Yeah. It was probably Kingpin won Daredevil, too, if we're being honest for me. I think Mr. Charles has leave because when you come in, you tell them you're cocky. Then they get like dressed down when the guy got the phone call and he kind of puts his tail between his legs. And then you see Kingpin of all people just get fucking king pinned essentially. Mr. Charles is my guy. He's my guy, Bob. And I'm fascinated at what the connection.
Starting point is 00:30:20 to Valentina is. Because when he goes into the office, obviously the attorney general who was like talking shit being like, you have no fucking authority here. He gets a phone call and he's like, yes, Ms. DeFontaine. You have full control to do whatever you want. And that also like threw my brain in a blender because, okay, she knows Charles is now with Fisk and in Fisk's office, obviously. This takes place two weeks after Thunderbolts after she introduces the new Avengers to the
Starting point is 00:30:48 world is her mindset we can't have any other vigilantes because I basically I have the franchise rights like no more other like I have the vigilantes here because I was thinking why would she be anti vigilante if she just went into the press conference obviously she wasn't she wasn't fully you know pro superhero in that movie it took until the very end and she could take credit for everything but I was still like very fascinated about that I also saw quotes from Matthew Lillard interview where he said he basically didn't know much about the MCU going into this. It made me think back.
Starting point is 00:31:20 When I went to the screen rant screening of Thunderbolts with Jake Bass. He was Liam Crowley, friend of the program, Liam Crowley put on the screening. I left that and people were whispering, oh, Matthew Lillard was there. Matthew Lillard was there. He was like, this guy was doing fucking research. He was like, oh, let me go see Thunderbolts and figure out a little bit more about this universe. Everything kind of clicked into place there.
Starting point is 00:31:40 I was like, oh, that's fucking cool. You know, I always like when the people know what they're doing and whatever. But if you're not, at least do your research, at least figure it out on the fly. That's all you can ask. And so I appreciate that again. I have a soft spot in my heart just because of the way he played that character and scream. I'm not even a horror movie guy.
Starting point is 00:31:58 So I watched that movie. Stu Mocker. Is that movie? Is it Stoo Mocker? We got to look that up. I think it is because Goldfinger texted me and Ken Jack. He goes, oh my God, it's the guy from five nights at Freddy's. And me and Ken Jack were like, are we onker?
Starting point is 00:32:12 What? Stewart. Yep. Stuart. it's too mocker so that's probably damn yeah when i saw five nights of friday's like oh my god my daughter plays that game like how how is he and i'm thinking of screen from i didn't really screen was 96 either i thought that was like 99 2000 that makes me feel it's one of my favorite horror movies so good so funny so great with the way it plays on tropes so yeah watch every holline but still like
Starting point is 00:32:38 a hell of a slasher man i know it's crazy to be like it's like half a parody but you take it seriously because it's that good. And it was so good. It made scary movie, like, basically just, like, could just crush it on its own because it had such good source material. It was so good that scary movie has six coming out this year. You know? We got some more Cherry and Kirsten back at the office. Kirsten's like, I haven't heard from that.
Starting point is 00:33:04 And that asshole comes to Kirsten, begs her to plead out of the Duquesne case and it hits her with you. You think the evidence matters, which kind of felt like they were hitting a real world, like, oh, what? We're in a world where the evidence don't matter anymore. And I like the scene where Matt met Cherry under the bridge. I thought, I like Cherry. He gets hate from the Daredevil fans. I don't really know why.
Starting point is 00:33:24 I think he's a good side character. And like, it's not like he's a great. Oh, my God. I love when he's on screen. But I like Matt having that connection, a little source. I didn't realize he had the hate. He's a wire alum. So I love him just because he's from the Wire.
Starting point is 00:33:37 He plays it also like a cool character that you like in the Wire. So I'm going to have to fucking beef with these Daredevil. What is Goldfinger? I didn't know Goldfinger things before I go into war with these guys. Goldfinger hates him. Then I'm going to have to just, like, quietly take my wire love and just sit in the quarter and let Cherry fight this battle on his own. The Cherry storyline, like with, and then like David versus Goliath, I'm like, okay, like, let's just keep that.
Starting point is 00:34:04 I'm a Charles guy. I'm looking for more Mr. Charles guy. The more David versus Goliath talk that goes on means less Mr. Charles time, which I do not like at all. did you cringe or not really cringe but groan as much as I did when we were reminded of the head of the AFTV, the anti-vigilante task force when he shows up and he gets to the captain before Daredevil does. And then he fucking he hits the girl in the restaurant as soon as he gets in there.
Starting point is 00:34:32 He's like, get out of my way. Boom. Fucking elbows or something. That guy, I mean, we said it last season, the perfect casting. That face is so hateable. meant to be a dick and like you want to talk instant heat right is that a wrestling term
Starting point is 00:34:46 and get the girl and get the whole crowd to booed it's almost cheapy it was cheapy let's call it what it was yeah it was also I actually kind of like this a story of love I was like I thought there'd be a story of slander but it was a story of love I used to live in Astoria so all this
Starting point is 00:35:02 pretty stuff and I was like all right we're going to Astoria so I was I like that too the story the restaurant helping people get out and you know all of that i was like oh this is fucking cool because i didn't expect that right off the bat me either and it felt much more organized and like a real living thing yes this quickly yeah 100% i thought that was cool um the fake fisk report has a lot of people talking the fisc in the mask and everything little batman uh dark night kind of stuff or um it kind of
Starting point is 00:35:33 is i still kind of think it's bb and i don't i don't i don't have them crazy for some people are like they're bringing back Ben. He's not really... Ben is fucking dead. I watched that original series. Kingpin killed that motherfucker for sure. I don't know who else it could be. Some people were saying it's Gandalfini,
Starting point is 00:35:51 and he's a fucking... I don't think he's already turned on Fisk. I think he still believes in the cause. No way. Gandalfini... So I'm at my, like, doing my debate, and I'm like, is Gandilfini gonna...
Starting point is 00:36:03 I feel like he's gonna take one by the end of this season. Fis is the one to push him under the bus, and you know and him when he had that apartment and that look of self-approval and the new york kith shirt and i was like oh boy you're that was so good the wardrobe department nailed it oh they nailed it and you're just like i don't like this guy i love the new york nix i do not like the new york yeah he just plays that and there's probably so many people like that in the fucking city oh so uh and chat out man every time i see gandlefini i just smile i'm like there's i don't know if there's anyone i've ever rude for in
Starting point is 00:36:39 that I have no clue. I know. Like, I've never met them more than... Especially after his debut, as many Saints in Newark, which all the Sopranos fans hate. And obviously,
Starting point is 00:36:48 people weren't like anti him, but it's tough to kickstart a career after you launch into like, everyone fucking said that was the shits. This is a great role for him. He plays it really well. I think he's really good in this show. Yeah, me too.
Starting point is 00:37:02 I'm thrilled for him. So I don't know who well... He's a deputy mayor now, too. He's got that nice title. Definitely. That's true. So who else? I feel like it has to be, right?
Starting point is 00:37:12 Like, who else could it be? Probably. Like, yeah, I don't know. We know it's not like the main. We know it's not fucking Karen. We know it's not cherry. We know it's not cursing. So people said,
Starting point is 00:37:23 Foggy's alive. And again, it's like, Foggy ain't a lot. You heard his heart stop. We're not, God. They're just holding out hope. Because Fodd, that speaks to how good a character Foggy was.
Starting point is 00:37:35 How much people love Foggy. People can't let him die. I feel kind of bad that I really don't. It's like Foggy is the friend everyone talks about. Yeah. I didn't know him. Sounds like a great guy. Sounded like a great guy.
Starting point is 00:37:46 He was a great guy. Real good guy. We get the head of the AFTV torturing the captain. And then Buck comes in and bitches him out. It's like, you shouldn't fucking blah, blah, blah,
Starting point is 00:37:57 be doing this. And then just fucking shoots the guy in head. And that was brutal the way they shot it too. Or you can see the bullet come through the fucking forehead and everything. Brutal. The way they set it up and he like cocks it back. I'm like, are they just not going to show it?
Starting point is 00:38:09 what? I'm like, oh, they showed it. They showed it very intense. I feel like they keep doing that. I wonder if they're doing it on purpose. Because I've had the same thought, Clem, multiple times where I'm like, wait, are they going to show that? I'm like, oh, they showed it. It almost like it wants to remind you like, we're showing this shit. Yeah. It's like, though, when the movies are like, you can't shoot a cop and then the guy shoots a cop. You're like, oh, shit. Well, I guess there are no rules after all. Like every time they do, you're not going to show this, are you? Oh, they showed it. Yeah. And I don't want to speak too soon, but I do want to say.
Starting point is 00:38:39 A little birdie told me there's a chance we'll be able to interview Buck on Zoom. Oh, wow. And I said that because it will take fucking anyone from Daredevil. I'd love to talk to anyone about how the show's made of stuff. Vanessa, talk to Buck. He'll handle it for you. Oh, my God. Imagine we got Vincent.
Starting point is 00:38:54 We could fucking have him do the voice to us. I don't know how you would respectfully ask him to turn the voice on, though. Like PMT when they had Seth MacFarlane. They were like, do you get annoyed of people asking you to do the voice? He's like, is this you asking me to do the voice? They were like, yeah. I just do the whole interview in the voice to see if he said this. And he's just like,
Starting point is 00:39:13 maybe it's his voice. I didn't do any research on these guys. We get, again, Mr. Charles was dominating Fisk. Phoebe and Karen talked about Ben a little bit. That was a nice scene where she's talking about. He feels some guilt for the fact that Ben died kind of protecting her. I thought that was a really good scene.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Glenn keeps seeing her old patient muse. She's also cooking the book. and drinking. So I don't know if they're setting up for a redemption arc or a complete fall off a cliff arc. Well, once you change the questions to the answers, especially a guy that we like, we have a,
Starting point is 00:39:49 she's radioactive, Bob. She's a problem. She's really a problem. And she's not, she's not starting by like a couple glasses of wine. We're starting with just straight vodka. And yeah,
Starting point is 00:40:04 yeah, this isn't good. Oh, this is uh what is jerry this is a disaster like this is a catastrophe it's a catastrophe it's on the verge of a catastrophe it's a bit of a powder keg waiting to be exploded yes this is a powder keg catastrophes are being uh set up by this woman right now she's driving on the wrong side of the road in london basically yeah oh yeah matt and karen talk about foggy they're thinking about him that guy Christophie finds the restaurant, which is good.
Starting point is 00:40:38 And then the ending, crazy, Daredevil saves Cherry, but he starts having a heart attack and you could hear this. And it's almost flashbacks to, oh, my God, here in the heart, but you're trying to fight. Really good fight scene. Cool choreography. Eventually gets overpowered. They rip the fucking mask off of them.
Starting point is 00:40:54 And when it hits this point, you go, okay, something's happening here. Either he's going to prison immediately and this is a prison show now or someone's coming in for the save. Who could come in for the save? and as soon as fucking bullets come flying through the window and they're hitting collateral damage through people. I was like, oh shit, it's fucking bullseye. He throws the knife in. It's like, you're welcome or whatever it says.
Starting point is 00:41:15 It's fucking etched in. And I know it's etched in. So he's going to feel it. But a lot of people have been joking. Like you threw a written message to a blind guy. Like when we see the message on the knife, Matt Murdoch has no idea what that thing says. I well, so I did think as soon as I saw that, to my credit, I said, oh, he can. probably feel it because at this rate yeah i i've learned pretty quickly let's just suspend beliefs
Starting point is 00:41:41 again don't know which one i'm supposed to echo location it's going on our this weren't some true stevie wonder shit especially am i misremembering or did he like sort of see some of the muse paintings last season oh god he sort of see one am i crazy thinking that maybe i'm crazy i'm crazy i'm saying it looks like a Picasso but he doesn't fucking see what is he talking of about right now. My thing was, does he, does, does bullseye have knives pre-etched with your welcome? Because that came pretty quick.
Starting point is 00:42:15 That's a good point. And he's fucking, and then have to fucking etch it real quick. He's got like a 3D printer pen or something that he could, that's a really, did he have a bunch of different knives for different scenarios? Sorry, came a little late.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Get your next knife. Yeah, if they did ever get shot, but it wasn't a killing blow. the fatal blow. What do you have thrown a sorry? Yeah. Yeah. Should have been earlier.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Called up until Cherry's dying. If you can't hear his heart. Is he dead? Is Cherry alive? He is right. I think he's alive. Maybe the heart attack just stops. Is that,
Starting point is 00:42:51 are we dealing with Chekhov's heart right now, though? Is this heart on its way out? It kind of is Chekhov's heart. Yeah. It's a bit of a Chekhov's heart here. And when he went down, when I heard that thing going, I go, because remember he's like, I'm getting old. retirement. Oh, yeah. I'm like, oh, no. I got a new boat. Me and my wife are going to sail around the
Starting point is 00:43:11 world. Oh, he's bad. I lost cherry. As soon as I, like, put those two together with the heartbeat, I was like, oh, we've lost cherry. So hopefully we didn't shout out Bullseye and his fucking cavalcade of pre-etched knives with message. It's like a fortune cookie. What if he throws the wrong one by the mistake? The other side is his lucky numbers on it. Yeah. And like how to say a horse. and Chinese or something. All right, that was Daredevil, Born Again, Season 2 premiere. Good stuff. More good stuff from Daredevil.
Starting point is 00:43:46 I've yet to see a Daredevil episode where I was like, that was bad. There's definitely been episodes that are better than others, but there's no bad episodes, really. They don't swim you miss. That's the thing. And it's like there's such a good floor on it that even if sometimes the ceiling isn't being hit, especially if you're looking for the suit, the fights, whatever it may be. And I don't know what the Netflix one was.
Starting point is 00:44:04 in terms of where that reached. But I'm very happy right now. It's always a, it's a good meal. I'm happy. It's, you know what? It's chicken cutlet night. Ever and ever,
Starting point is 00:44:13 I have, I know I'm getting some good cutlets. And listen, these are not the best cutlets in the world, but they're good cutlets. And I'm getting, they say, potatoes,
Starting point is 00:44:21 like roasted potatoes. And every now and then you're like, these might be the best cutlets. You're like, these are really, they're different chef is on tonight. Do you use Panko on these tonight? These are really extra crispy.
Starting point is 00:44:33 They're really good. Sometimes they don't use the Italian brick crumbs and you tell they're a little off, but they're still good. There's nothing left on the plate at the end of the night. And that's all you can ask for. They're cooking and we're eating. They're cooking and we're eating, yes. Large calls, chicken cutlets, Italian protein bars, one of my favorite things. I love that.
Starting point is 00:44:53 I never heard that. He asked me, what is the Tim Duncan of food? And I said, chicken collets. It's kind of like, Mr. Fundamental takes care of business, always in the mix. And listen, I'm not just one because then you go, Oh, chicken parm is a chicken cutlet, right? So it's like you can do it with this. I got a chicken cutlet sandwich for lunch yesterday.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Chicken cutlet, a little bit of mozzarella, a little bit of prosciute. My favorite thing in the culinary game, like one of the biggest changes I think to happen in, I guess this country, maybe the world, is that we started making the six-foot heroes that included the chicken cutlet with the fresh moths, the roasted red peppers, and the balsamic. Once that got added to the Italian and the American game changer. Listen, I love cold cuts, but sometimes you want a little something extra. And when someone brings out that chicken color, oh boy, I had a graduation party. Yeah, exactly. I went to a graduation party and they had a bacon, egg, and cheese six foot.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Have you ever seen one of those? Blahling it popped up size. It had seeds. It was seeded bread. It was out of this world. That sounds amazing. I'm such a big breakfast guy. The entire night, too.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Oh, it was perfect. Give me breakfast food over everything else, maybe. It's just my favorite. I'm just talking right now to this episode. All right, so I'm going to ask you this now. Let's do a little prediction here. What speed? So my guy, Kyle, again, said it hits the gas and doesn't let off.
Starting point is 00:46:22 What speed? What's the high speed do you expect next episode? 100 is, oh, shit. We are fucking going crazy. So are we count next episode. So it has two and three because that's not two. I'm saying by the end of three. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:35 But it's all said and done with three. And maybe we'll keep it going the rest of the season. I like that. I like the speed test. Yeah, the speed test. I'm going to say, I'm going to say two and three since everyone was saying it's a slow star end. Shout out to Liam Crowley, our friend of the show said the season four, which is like the midseason finale. He's like, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:46:56 Episode four. He's like episode. Yeah. So I'm going to say we're hitting. I'm going to say we're hitting. by the end of episode three. I don't think we're, I don't think we're going crazy,
Starting point is 00:47:07 but I think we're going a little bit over the speed limit. I think we're going 70 to 65. Okay. I was going to say 702. I'll go 75. I'll raise it. I think 65 would be, I want to say,
Starting point is 00:47:17 disingenuous, but I want to have someone to reach for here, but I think like, sounds like we get the 85 or 90 by 4 based on what. Oh, I think so. I really, and that's why I'm also like, I don't want to push it there yet.
Starting point is 00:47:28 No. Because everyone's telling us it just keeps getting better. It's the figure skating thing. It's the Dave Pizza scale. Yes. You don't want to go too high. So I think, and I would say the same thing about this week. I'd say this week hit like 75.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Mr. Charleston's hit 75 for me. All right. Let's talk Invincible Season 4, episode 4. Kind of feels like episode 2 because we did the big block last week. Yeah. Week 2 of season 4. Good episode this week. And I feel like personally a good episode because I love Damien Darkblood so much.
Starting point is 00:48:03 So to be able to spend. a lot of time with Damien Darkblood and in hell this week, it was fucking metal, Glem, and I dug it. Hell was gnarly. I didn't know. And we've never known. The way they were explaining everything, we've clearly never been there for a prolonged amount of time.
Starting point is 00:48:20 I have to say I like my Damien Darkblood, because I think we were both diehard Damien guys here. I like him more in his detective, whatever role. but this I got to tell you Bob I didn't think it was going to keep going on that long I did you get the ball what
Starting point is 00:48:41 oh the fall was almost funny in itself it was like a family guy skit it was like 75% of the episode they just stayed in hell where Invincible has programmed me to go from this to that to this and like major battles major scenes
Starting point is 00:48:58 yeah and we just stayed in hell with a bunch of characters we've never met. Obviously, there's like, you know, you find out who Satan is and then he grows and it becomes like the Lord of Darkness and it's not what you think hell is. It really, I was, I was really, really fucked up. And then the other thing is I, I, and this is my problem. I know, I think the, uh, what's his name? Um, Taylor, Art. He says, like, I have something for you. Did the Egyptian scene, he just get, he, like, they didn't, the Egyptian scene didn't go on for like five minutes and then he got summoned to hell.
Starting point is 00:49:31 like he just gets summoned to hell right and then we go back to the egyptian because i think i might have missed like five minutes of this episode because it felt like i did no i don't think so i don't think i think it's the way you're saying where the egyptian was after i think yeah but i think he was he there he was there and he got summoned down yeah yeah but we didn't see him fighting i i i was like mumra from thunder cats it's an old reference my fellow olds out there that's what i was those were the kind of same voice actor as damien by the way clancy brucey round. Yes. And the girl is Chloe Bennett, who was in, what was that? Shield. Agents of Shield and Volcanica, obviously the big fucking volcano monster in this episode was Oberyn Martel's
Starting point is 00:50:16 sister in Game of Thrones. And she was also in Obi-Wan Kenobi. Oh, okay. I loved her. Chloe Bennett, I fell in love with, which Dave, the Little Dickie show, right? Yeah, so good. And she was the photographer referring that. So, okay, so the Egyptian, I was really throw off and the invisible card, they threw it really late when the title screen. So I was like, what's, I was like, I'm pretty sure the card didn't show up. The Egyptian thing kind of like threw me for a loop. And I think they're just saying, hey, he's just getting someone down and then you're going to kind of scramble. I think that was where they did it. But I don't know. I was, I was in like a good mental, listen, I'm old. I understand this answer. I don't know my fastball. My fastball was clocking like a solid
Starting point is 00:50:57 93 at that moment. So it was not, I was like, I don't know what's going on. AJ going every five seconds. Title card was like 20 minutes in this week, I think. I was going to say like 35, honestly. It was, it was deep into that. And I like the way they did it too again. They always nailed the way they kind of splice it into a sentence there. I like Bruce Campbell is Satan from the evil dead. And obviously all of Sam Ramey's movies, he makes a little cameo. And I like that Satan was a little Yodaish until he grows and then he becomes this fucking cool hulking figure. But he's still kind of of a pussy. Like, I thought that was funny when the big thing comes out and he tells Invincible, like, uh, you can get him. Like that, that was really funny to me. Even Invincible's line when
Starting point is 00:51:36 he's like, he's like, bow down. He's like, I'm not bowing a Satan. Like, and Satan wasn't like pissed off. He wasn't like, I'm going to kill you for that. He was just like, it was like, yeah, this is problematic in my world. I know it's different for you guys down here. It's still a problem up there. And I, I definitely appreciate that as well. And I liked that the whole episode is showing us volcanic as like unbelievable. You can't beat her axe to the skull. She's fucking filling Damien Darkblood's sister with lava exploding her. And then Invincible comes down, boom, boom, takes her head off.
Starting point is 00:52:10 She comes up, boom. It was like showing you, oh, this is how strong invincible is. It was almost like a reminder that he's actually way above all these guys. He's been up against it's stone cold up against the rock and Undertaker and Triple H. but then they remind you every now and then what he's like when he fights the hurricane and you're like that's why he's the main event and it and it didn't work for me because it's like oh yeah that's right and i now now this is the thing i'm i'm just putting it out there now calling it uh march 18th or mark 28th 8th 26 close my eyes are going it's getting like god damn it um so yeah the fast bowl's maybe not 93 miles per hour right now 89 not even on the black there is going to be some serious problems with a lot of people in the not too distant future and it's going to come at a very
Starting point is 00:52:59 inopportune time as well i'm telling it those two things put it in the bank dude speaking of inopportune time poor yeah finally going to tell mark she works up the curts She's talking to her friend about it. Goes up to the roof and then immediately fucking Omni Man comes down with the amazing lines, The Time for War is Upon Us. Oh, so good. Chills him and Alan the Alien. That was amazing.
Starting point is 00:53:24 And just like all of the pre stuff too, before you even get to that, when he gets the yellow and blue suit again, he fucking goes off and you're like, that's my fucking invincible. And then Debbie sits him down and is like, selling the house. Me and Paul are moving in together. It was such a cool juxtaposition of like the cool. coolest superhero side of Invincible. And also his mom is moving in with her boyfriend. It's a lame real life shit that's going on in his life as well.
Starting point is 00:53:49 That's why the show is so good, though. And I like that he was like, you know, the whole stuff about the suit deserving it, all that stuff. We kind of got like, it kind of happened again where Mark's like, I had a killer, had to do it. But he's very much from kill first, ask questions later mode. And that, and it keeps me like, hey, it's right. This guy was completely brainwerey.
Starting point is 00:54:10 watched by the sequins or this we'll have a monster doesn't die technically so you didn't kill her we're going to have a problem and this is going to happen sooner rather than later there's going to be a you really shouldn't have done that man yeah and he's like but but I've been doing it and everyone was okay with it then and it's like well yeah we're getting to that for sure I also just wanted to say we mentioned that them falling down
Starting point is 00:54:40 that was so funny to me it was family guy the whole conversation they had there where he keeps putting the helmet back on and taking the helmet off and they're talking about the technology behind that the helmet was sick too obviously like devil horns but very loki-esque the way it went that like that really cool and his suit looked like tron was that on purpose too oh i didn't think yeah they did like the tron movies and the way they were like uh the damon and his sister talked to and i was like I was like, am I having a stroke right now? A lot of stuff that happened in this episode, I was kind of like starting to worry about my mental health
Starting point is 00:55:16 about everything's going on. I just think it was a weird episode. I wasn't expecting to be in hell like 80% of the time. And I told you, I was like, this is going to be a pretty easy recap because we were just there and nothing major ends up happening in that battle that, you know, is long term for this time.
Starting point is 00:55:32 I think it's a precursor of what's to come later. I also really, this, Mark's going to do that thing, whatever it is, it's going to be a step too far, very bad, and it's going to somehow impact the pregnancy or how Eve thinks of him. I don't like the trains are on the tracks, Bob. This is not good. I'm doing my Ryan Windhorst fingers right now. I don't even notice I'm doing that.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Why would he say that? We talked about it last week. It's Anakin. It really is. It's super close to that story, which is we've seen it go down there. Let's hope for a different ending here. not going to do that, is he? Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:56:11 If we get by the end of the season, Mark Hittner. No. That'll be bad. Oh, so wait, who would be the Obi-One in this scenario? Oliver? Probably Oliver, or maybe even, like, Omni Man at this point? Because he's, he is redeemed? Does he even have friends anymore?
Starting point is 00:56:33 Like, he's in a bad place. Like, Alan's Moore's dad's friend. Yeah, exactly. Eve herself plays like the role of Obi-Wan. No, I know, but like, what if she fills both of those roles? Yeah, like a fight with her is what happened. Like, that could be crazy. Do you think?
Starting point is 00:56:51 I don't think he would fight her, though. Is the real thing that turns him dark? Is that killing her dad? Because I kind of hate her dad. I did say I kind of want her dad to be killed. He's like, what? He told me to do the dishes. You're in no shit to be doing that.
Starting point is 00:57:06 It also made me laugh when the, the fight. final fight scene between Volcanica and Invincible is set to raining blood by Slayer. And when me and Nate went overseas to Cardiff this summer for Oasis, Slayer was there the night before. So the whole streets,
Starting point is 00:57:23 like the day before were like rockers and fucking leather and denim and patches and chains. And then the next day it was all Oasis fans and bucket hats and fucking soccer jerseys and stuff like that. But Nate's room was on the side. It was like the castle,
Starting point is 00:57:38 or something. So he could hear Slayer. And he was like, I can't fucking sleep. Slayer's still playing. And then he texted me, maybe an hour later. He goes, it just got so much louder. I said, get ready to learn raining blood, baby. Because that is definitely what got louder is their most famous song and everything.
Starting point is 00:57:55 So as soon as raining blood hit in this, I was like, oh, yeah, I'm thinking back to Cardiff where raining blood was keeping Nate awake the night before Oasis got back together. That's awesome. One of my favorite things is, I'm sure there's a term for. it for the people like the diehards like you who go to a ton of concerts or different venues. It's the band that follow the people going
Starting point is 00:58:16 to see that night's band. Oh yeah. And then but the remnants left of the no no it's the remnants of previous set of fans and then the next night's fans because I think I told the story on the pod once. My wife and my daughter went to see the backstreet
Starting point is 00:58:33 boys at Bethel Woods and the day before was fish and there was just like A couple extra balloons laying on the ground. And I was like, don't touch those. I don't know if there's anything left in there right now. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:48 That might be the funniest. Like, what's the funniest combo you can think? Because fish in the back to your voice is pretty, pretty. That's very. And fish, they actually have a name for their fan. They call them the Wookies, which I think is, I'm not a wookie myself. Yeah. But I always love that name.
Starting point is 00:59:05 I mean, Slayer and Oasis, they're both rock band. You know, Slayer's men. but they're both in the rock stone, but couldn't be more opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of that Slayer's singing about raining blood and Oasis sing about living forever, you know? Very, very different bands. Backstreet Boys and Slayer, maybe.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Combine the two. Oh, my God, that's it. All right, let's talk a little project, Hail Mary. I was so excited for this movie for genuinely years. Like, I got excited for this probably two years ago when it got announced simply because the Martians, one of my favorite movies and books. And I said to myself two years ago, I said, I'm not going to take this one. I read The Martian and I loved it.
Starting point is 00:59:47 And I read it twice before the movie came out. And it didn't hinder my enjoyment of the movie. I said, fuck it. I'm going to be surprised by this. It's Lorden Miller. It's Ryan Gosling. It's a bunch of people that I love and they're all involved with this. Later, Greg Frazier would sign on, the cinematographer for Robe 1, Dune 2, the Batman, the creator.
Starting point is 01:00:04 He's a fucking master. So I was like, I think this is going to be right up my alley. We talked to Justin Crowe about it. He's like, this is a movie that's releasing in March and is going to carry forward through award season. And I can't get my hopes up higher. And then I went and I fucking loved it, Clem. I loved it just as much as I thought I would. It is a space movie with practical effects and awesome performance from Ryan Gosling.
Starting point is 01:00:30 And honestly, everyone in the cast, Sandra Hewler is great. Everyone. I mean, Carl, our guy from the bear, he's fucking fantastic in it. And it's just about, he's Marcus, yeah. It's about friendship. It's about having hope. It's how can a Star Wars fan not love a movie like this? It hits on all of those notes.
Starting point is 01:00:52 It was the first movie since Dune 2 last, not last, the March of 2024, that leaving the theater instantly, I said this is a five-star movie for me. Maybe not for everyone else, but it felt so specifically like up my alley. made for me. It's my favorite movie since Dune 2. I like it more than any movie I saw last year. And I loved a lot of movies I saw last year. But this was just everything I wanted today. I loved it. Yeah. And we won't go spoilers for anybody because, again, a lot of people have seen it. But I'm sure everyone's seen the hype and we'll just add to the hype. We'll put a little kindling on that fire. When you said like it more than any other movie of the past year, because
Starting point is 01:01:32 then you're putting this above stairs, you're putting it above weapons, you're putting it above one battle Marty Supreme which I loved Superman which I really loved so that's a reality with Robbie
Starting point is 01:01:44 and you know what when you said with Doom 2 that's a good way to put it because when you're watching you're like man I'm just having a good time
Starting point is 01:01:50 and I'm happy I'm here and then when you leave you're just like it just makes you happy just about moving you're like man this is a good
Starting point is 01:01:59 fucking movie because I don't I mean maybe not so much you but I just don't go to the movies I just don't have as much time and when I go and I'm let down.
Starting point is 01:02:07 It's like, man, that sucks. And I'm probably not going to get to another one in a while. Now, there is like a murder's row of movies coming out for the rest of the year. So I'm like, I'll be at the movies a lot. But this one, it's two and a half hours. And I was like, all right, like, show me. I do think it could have maybe like 10, 15 minutes longer. But I don't want to cut a lot of stuff out.
Starting point is 01:02:30 You know, I do think some of the stuff you need it for the moments that it pays off with. I didn't realize this was a book either. So is it called Project Hail Mary as well, the book? Yeah, written by Andy Weir, who wrote The Martian, and it was, I don't think his direct follow-up to that. I think he had one in between there. But I would say the book was definitely as beloved as The Martian was as a book. Like people, book readers really, they better get this right. A lot of people are saying the movie's better than the book.
Starting point is 01:02:57 Wow, that was my question because, you know, the book readers do get very, again, I've learned to actually really enjoy Moneyball the movie. But it's a double whammy because I loved the book. And I also like love baseball. And that was a era. I love baseball. And the fact they just brush over and this is a everyone's heard of this million times. Tim Hudson, Barry Zito and Mark Mulder and Miguel Tahada and Eric Chavez are all fucking awesome. And I was like, guys like the reds, the ayes are awesome. Like what are we talking about? So the I do like to hear that I'm going to, I'm going to have to do a whole deep dive about like the differences between the book and the movie and what everyone thinks. I haven't even done like the real Reddit deep dive on all this,
Starting point is 01:03:39 but basement seal of approval for sure stamped on this. And I'm thinking, what do you think about this? So we have our lights. We have our different things. Who has the frosted mug? Doesn't someone have a frosted mug? Someone does have a frosted mug. We have Tony Gilroy has the sauce.
Starting point is 01:04:02 that's in uh that's that's a light right it's a neon light the foggy light is where this all started there's definitely a couple plaques we got a yes there's a plaque too we need someone keeping track of this stuff for us we need like a basement archivist yes we need a basement archivist what i am proposing we add to the basement here and it's kind of some a new age technology you know like uh it would be on like comic books or like regular books or like even the baseball cards had them It's like the hologram and you look at it from a different angle and it changes. And you look at it from one angle and it says Lord and Miller. And then it says sauce gods.
Starting point is 01:04:40 They're the sauce gods. Oh, yeah. Is that now is that too strong? Because we say has the sauce. These guys have the sauce. This is not a slight at Tony Gilroy either. Not at all. But what these guys are doing with the projects and the franchises that either we love or have grown to love here.
Starting point is 01:05:00 here with this movie, right? We have Spider-Man. We have, they did the Miller's Rist of Machines, right? They produced that. So they out of almost have the Spielberg thing where like their name goes ahead of stuff that even they don't direct.
Starting point is 01:05:14 But I think they have a heavy hand and all that stuff. Were they Lego guys? They were the Lego movie and they did direct the Lego movie. They were the, Cloudy was the chance of meatballs before that. They did 21 and 22 Jump Street.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Two of the funniest comedies of our generation. era, whatever you want to call it, they've produced so much good stuff. They're involved in Spider-Noire coming up this year, which just raises my hopes for that. Their names attached to something gives me so much hope. They absolutely get the holographic
Starting point is 01:05:42 card on the wall, and this movie made me a little angry that they fucking got fired from Solo again. I'm like, again, I'm like, I just refused to believe they were making a bad movie, bad enough to be like, we're firing you, and you don't even get to finish this, Ron Howard's refilming 70% of the movie or whatever. And then
Starting point is 01:05:58 we got what we got, which again, isn't it's not the worst abomination ever it's just like the star wars movie that like i'd throw to the side and i'm like i don't even really care about that one i refuse to believe they did a bad job yeah that's the thing it's like you can tell me oh this was such a big thing they messed up it's like i don't think they really have it in their DNA to be able to mess something like that up and solo just felt like two different movies and this is the first movie they directed since that too what a statement what a fucking hey you've fired us. We're going to go make Project Tail Mary
Starting point is 01:06:32 second only to Oppenheimer in terms of movie openings that are non-franchise. It's fucking doing gangbusters right now. You can't get a ticket to Lincoln Square for two weeks. What if I do this? We don't have this, Bob. This is pretty fucked up to do Star Wars. What if I decide this movie is Solo's origin story? Without giving anything away.
Starting point is 01:06:53 There's a whole lot of fucking like mental gymnastics you're going to have it. It doesn't flow as smooth as Trent's, you know, stepbrothers goes into L for whatever. It's not that smooth. But like, honestly, you guys gave me no choice. I don't want to, I disavowed solo. That's out of the head cannon.
Starting point is 01:07:11 I want to put something in. These fucking guys, there is like a what if. Like, what if these guys did solo? What does it mean for the solo story? What does it mean for the Star Wars universe? And I'm not going to be here to bash the Star Wars universe. But I just would have liked to have seen it because guys, of the sauce gods.
Starting point is 01:07:29 That's my Snyder cut. That's the cut I want to see. It's not a cut that exists, unfortunately, because they didn't get to finish it. But, like, that's the fucking, people want to see Solo 2. It's like, before we get the fucking Solo 2, I want to see the real version of Solo 1.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Are people asking for Solo 2 right now? Not real. There's, like, definitely a vocal minority that has existed since the movie, but I would say not. Not really. I've realized that one up. The internet is pockets of people.
Starting point is 01:07:57 that have their takes they then find people with those takes must charge our people and then you just become a loud minority I mean the Snyder folks have become a very very loud version of that man it's like those guys would never do anything on pure like they would never do anything AI just just tell me what you guys were going to do like just read it to me just read it to me you know can we get it as like an animated or like a comic even like
Starting point is 01:08:27 Like, just give us like what the story was, you know? Like, how was it different than what we got? I'm sure it was pretty different. It was all done. They shot it. They shot half of it, right? Or some of it? Well, they shot like half of it.
Starting point is 01:08:40 Yeah, it's like 50% of the way through the shoot they got fired. And then Ron Howard apparently like refilmed a lot of the stuff they even filmed. Like, you know, they took stuff out that they filmed. He probably filmed like 70%. Okay. So there is somewhere the project is done. It's just not done on film, but it's written. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Like, yeah, the script's out there. Comic book. Yeah. Just honestly, read it. Read it as an audio. Probably all the good Lando stuff. That was probably all their stuff. That's what I was thinking, Bob.
Starting point is 01:09:12 I thought the good Lando stuff was them. And this is, this is so fucked up. Now, this is what we have done. Anything that was good. We gave them credit for good. Anything bad was Howard. We've become what we hate. Actually, no, because listen, Ron Howard.
Starting point is 01:09:26 Yeah, exactly. Ron Howard, there's sauce on that boy, too, right? I actually love Ron Howard. Yeah. So sauce gods, everything good or great. Everything all right? Howard, young, old sauce man. Everything bad?
Starting point is 01:09:40 Who did the bad part of that movie? Kathleen Kennedy? Kathleen Kennedy. That's great. It's somehow her fault just by being on sunset that day. She fired him. Listen, I try to defend her, but I won't defend her decision to fire Lord Miller ever. That's like the, is Dorothy?
Starting point is 01:09:57 Vader really a bad guy and it's like Alderon. It's like get help me out of Alderan. And then dazed and confused. A first time watch for me that I think when I said on the show last week, I've never seen this. People were like, what? How have you never seen this? And I know everyone has blind spots, but it did feel like this is very up my alley. And Clem, it couldn't have been more up my well, I guess Project Hail Mary was a little more up my alley. But it was very, very up my alley. I loved it. It's a delightful watch. It wasn't a movie where I left it like blown away. It was a movie that I just loved to spend time in.
Starting point is 01:10:32 I love spending time with these characters in this time in, you know, the kiss loving 70s where we're getting kiss songs, kiss posters, kiss statues. I was loving all of that stuff. And I love freaks and geeks. It's one of my favorite shows ever. I probably on the shelf behind me actively. It's above Noel Gallagher.
Starting point is 01:10:51 It's that orange box there. That's my Freaks and Geeks box set because I, I'm like, even if it's off streaming, I want to have access to this. I rewatch the Halloween episode every year. And I was stunned to finish Dazed and Confused and go, oh, so one of my favorite shows is just, what if we made Dazed and Confused into a TV show? It's almost exactly the same. The younger brother with the sister that's looking out for him.
Starting point is 01:11:12 It is so similar in a good way. And I also told everyone in the office this. My whole life, I thought Matthew McConaughey was the main character of Dazed and Confused. My whole life. He's in it for like 10 minutes. that is one of those things that if you don't know the movie and just the character was so good that it could definitely and was it's worthy of that yeah and oh my god me and me and rachel the second he pulls into driving and goes all right all right all right we were like that's the first one
Starting point is 01:11:40 little did he know that was just going to be his life or like god no it's all that was an all time point the screen rick dalton for me all time yes i have to admit that I didn't see days and confused. So this came out in 93. So I was 11 years old when that came out. I, but I, you know,
Starting point is 01:12:01 you see there was a lot of like the posters, the T-shirts. You saw a lot of this stuff. And it was obviously a big movie. I didn't even watch it in like high school. I think I watched it probably like, I don't know, sometime a little after college at some point.
Starting point is 01:12:14 I think I, like, it might have been when Netflix had the DVDs and I was like, fuck it. Let's try Dave's Confuse that tonight. And I was like, God damn.
Starting point is 01:12:21 Like I just, that's just, so there's certain movies. that I watch because I want to be around the people and I feel like I'm there. And that just seems like a fun-ass time, a good, like a very interesting time and place. It's in Texas. It's the, everyone's like, you have the seniors kicking the freshman's ass, but that everyone's just cool with each other.
Starting point is 01:12:40 They're nice. Everyone's just kind of in this school. You know, obviously of your high school stuff. I just, I just like, I just want to be there and just be with those people. I thought there's a movie just like, those were just like stoner movie. I didn't realize it. I sort of thought the same. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:53 the poster would always have like the smiley face like the crazy eyes so i just thought it was like i was like i'm out of the move for a stoner movie and then you're watching like oh shit these characters these characters and these actors bob what a god damn crazy or day force that stephen shell by the way the stephen chay um project tell mary review sometimes a torte if we're sometimes a That's a bar. Listen, I can't not that's a bar. That's a goddamn bar. It made me laugh.
Starting point is 01:13:26 And I usually am like, if Stephen Che has like a lot of criticisms about a movie, I'm probably going to like it more. Again, we loved it. So shout out Stephen Chan. It's my guy. So Jason London, what did you think about when you saw Jason London as a London fan with the Jeremy London and Jason, right?
Starting point is 01:13:42 Are they twins? Yeah. I think they are. So that was- I mean, everyone in the cast, was so good. I truly felt like I left the movie with one critique is that I wanted to spend more time with all of them. That was part of the reason why I was like maybe that's why I like freaks and geeks so much is because it is that. It's you're spending time getting to know them, getting to know
Starting point is 01:14:02 their parents, getting to know their families, their little brothers, their little cousins, their whatever it is. Like, you get to know everybody in freaks and geeks. I left this and I was like, I almost wish there was not less characters because every character's so good, but I just wanted more time with all. And how it evolves where it starts with the paddling and the hazing. And then it goes to the night out when they're at like the foosball place and they're acting crazy. Then it ends with the moon tower and all that. And then it's kind of like the epilogue and everyone's kind of like part in their ways. And you're like these guys have a full year until the seniors are done. And now the freshmen are getting into the water. Yeah, it's like almost like you'd love to have like either a summer or a
Starting point is 01:14:42 school cutback. And preface and geeks, I've listened, I've never watched it. I've, want to watch it though because i do think freaks and geeks and i could be wrong on this i feel like that cast is it's kind of like this cast from the totally generation because it's like all these guys who went on to do all this awesome stuff i said to london but joey laura adams obviously she has yeah milia joey i can never say her name jovevich mila milo yakevitch or whatever yeah she is in there you're like she's not being used right and i heard rumors that she like her her um some of her scenes were cut because I think she the dude with the long hair Sean Andrews.
Starting point is 01:15:20 I heard they got they eloped at some point. So I don't know if there was something with the directors or whatever. That guy Sean Andrews, the guy who has the parents who were supposed to go away. That guy feels like he should have been in 10 movies or been like a dude. The guy who looks like Joey Lawrence brother, you know what I'm talking about like with the overalls. And it was always like with the girls with his like,
Starting point is 01:15:42 doing the tongue. That guy feels like he should have been something. The stoner guy feels like he should have been bigger. It's just, Ben Affleck. Ben fucking Afflex. And in such a good, like, douchey role, like, the way I'm going to fucking get you. Like, I was also like, is this where, like, the rumors of freshman, obviously freshman Friday didn't exist, but every freshman Friday, I was like, oh, is that a thing in the 70s? And that trickled down to the rumors of the 2000s.
Starting point is 01:16:07 So I was going to ask you about that, because I remember when I was going in high school, everyone was telling me freshman Friday and I was terrified. Is that, that was just like a wise tale. they did the fuck with the freshman's head because I always wondered, are there high schools where this shit just went down and it's like you kind of just live with it? I don't know. There was definitely, I remember being a freshman walking through the halls and like the seniors that were like the seniors that were cool, it kind of knew everybody that like the popular kids. I feel like they would be the ones to joke about it.
Starting point is 01:16:33 Like they'd say to you in the hallway like freshman Friday tomorrow coming up and you kind of knew they were kidding. Like nobody ever actually did anything like even remotely prankster. But like it was definitely something that like, freshman had a got a kick out of fucking with the, or the seniors got a kick out of fucking with the freshman over. If you went to a high school where freshman Friday or like legitimate hazing or even something like this where at the end of the,
Starting point is 01:16:57 it's crazy that like at the end of the year they hazed the freshman, but then they kind of are the incoming freshman, but then they kind of become friends with them. If that was the thing, put it in the comments, tweet at us, whatever maybe hashtag basement Fridays will do. We'll do baseball.
Starting point is 01:17:10 I like that. That could be our thing. I kind of want to know more, more about it. By the way, Parker Posey, that's another one that's like that. Oh, I forgot to mention. I mean, especially I didn't know her a ton, but she was in the last season of the White Lotus. And she was so good in it.
Starting point is 01:17:24 And she's doing this accent the whole time. She's like, Piper, get in here. She's like doing this crazy over the top accent. So it's almost weird for me to see her without that accent now. Yeah, I could see that. And she was in, um, oh, she crushed in Fargo. Do you remember that? Oh, yes.
Starting point is 01:17:40 Yeah. So she was awesome in that. Anthony Rapp and the Goldberg guy. Like there's just so many guys that are you have obviously heavy hitters like athlete But they have like oh that guy Adam goldberg's and they're like oh yeah that guy's in this And the girls um the girl that's Mitch Kramer's sister I'm in love with her I forget about that every movie she just seems like cool as hell Mitch Kramer I just love him with the long hair and Mitchie mitchie mitchie he's a terrible picture in real life it seems um the little shitty friends it's just i don't know it's one of my i i think if i like wrote out my movies it might be top 20, if not 25, like, I could just throw it out and just hang with everybody. And Bob,
Starting point is 01:18:20 the reason why I knew you loved this movie is because this, it might be the best soundtrackable. The needle drops in this movie, they use like schools out for summer as the kids are leaving for summer. It starts with Sweet Emotion by Arrowsmith. And then they go get the Arrowsmith tickets at the end, which is, you know, part of this whole story that's going. Slow ride is even used absolutely perfect. No more Mr. Nice Guys. He's getting paddled. Like, I'm telling you, Tuesday's gone as like everything's wrapping up. Lowrider. Like they fucking.
Starting point is 01:18:50 It's perfect. Crushed it. I could see this becoming a go-to comfort watch for me, for sure. I mean, the soundtrack, like that is a big part of comfort watches. It's why the Guardians movies work so well is because, you know, 10 minutes passed. And you're like, oh, what a great song. Like, no matter how many times you hear these songs, it's why they're classics. It's like, oh, it puts you right in the, right in the mood, too.
Starting point is 01:19:11 When they're doing the rock and roll all night. Again, I was like, oh my God, I get to see a poster. I got to see him paint the statues. And now I get the ear kiss in the middle of this movie. Yeah. And like with Guardians, the music is part of the scene and everything that's happening. And that does make it stick. Because I think about that, if you ever get a little tired of Guardians, you know, come a little bit closer comes on.
Starting point is 01:19:32 And the arrows flying around. You're in. You're locked in. You know, summer nights and, you know, rockets blowing up everyone. So it's the same thing with this. It's like, all right, we got the paddle scene coming on. So I knew this was going to be. an absolute lock for you. And actually now looking back, it was like the Columbia house.
Starting point is 01:19:48 I'd always see the dazed and confused soundtrack on there. And I'm like, oh, that's that Stoner movie. I really don't care about that. Little did I know. I was missing. I think, I was similar with the 70s kids, I guess this is their like coming to age movie. Then for like my generation, I'd say it's a little mix of can't hardly wait and like American pie. And then like you said super bad is like as you go along. I don't, they don't even make comedies anymore. So I don't. don't know what would be the next version of that. I don't know what it would be. Like mid-90s was like a recent coming of age movement.
Starting point is 01:20:20 There's not a ton of like coming of a, I'm sure we're forgetting a big one. Somewhere along the way. It probably is, but again. Skeleton crew for our generation. In general, where I don't think they really make movies like that anymore. So this one, A plus in my book. I'm happy you enjoyed.
Starting point is 01:20:37 I don't think this will, wait, where would this go in your rankings of movies? I thought was this old school Oh yeah Oh Me myself And I mean Boogie Knights Yeah
Starting point is 01:20:49 Where does it stand Is Boogie Knights Than this? Probably It's close though I would say Boogie Knights And then this
Starting point is 01:20:57 Yeah Boogie And then like a big drop Like these two are kind of In a category of their own Of the movies we've talked about Yeah Boogie nights has higher highs
Starting point is 01:21:07 But it's When you do the whole rewatch You feel like I, 80s, ebreak, I'm out. Like, I'll stop watching. It gets dark. It gets kind of weird. There's some funny stuff in there as well.
Starting point is 01:21:20 But the thing is, I don't know if anyone in Daze and Confuse is hitting Philip Seymour Hoffman, John C. Riley. Alfred Molina. Yeah. What's his name? Don Cheadle. Like some of the stuff is just. Even William H. Macy. You know?
Starting point is 01:21:39 Yeah. Talk about a crazy cast. That one, too. Oh my God. Yeah, and that's just another version of that, but it feels like those, those are fully developed actors at that point, where these were just,
Starting point is 01:21:49 you know, kids who were about to go on and start doing the stuff they did. So I'm thrilled. I'm thrilled we were able to cross up. And Bob, you never have to say, hear someone go,
Starting point is 01:21:58 you never see Dan, the movies, you got it. I know. It's off the books. You got it now. It's off the books. Now it's just,
Starting point is 01:22:04 yeah, now it's just the 50 other classics that I haven't seen that do like. What? You've seen Starface? Oh, no. Don't make me much Starface next week. We have enough stuff going on.
Starting point is 01:22:14 I'm not even that interested if you're being on. I know it's like three hours. I'll get through it one day. Listen, I'll get to the Godfather. Oh, yeah. Godfather's long. Godfather's like my favorite movie.
Starting point is 01:22:25 And I've tried Godfather a bunch of times, but I haven't tried it in probably 10 years. I tried in high school and I was just like, yeah, the same for me. I'll get to. Listen, I know, I know eventually one day it will be for me. And then I'll have Godfather and Godfather, too, to watch fresh.
Starting point is 01:22:39 Like that, that'll be exciting with that. KFC's my boy. He just recklessly. He's just talk shit about the wires, sopranos, and Godfather, which is like three of my top five things. It's like empires in there for me. And like he's just screwing out all my favorites. And die hard.
Starting point is 01:22:57 Yeah, that's basically my life. So we'll just, we'll just, we'll let the Godfather come and go down the road. I also have to admit, like, when my kids are watching 90s, my kids are watching 90s movies, that would be like me watching a third. 30s movie. You know, it's like that much time has passed or whatever. So, this was me back in the 90. So I'm not going to, we won't get on yet at all. I also think,
Starting point is 01:23:19 I also think Scarface, like, is not a classic, like the other ones and it's kind of crazy. That's what I've heard from so many people. That's why I'm, like, not rushing to it. It's, like, I think Godfather and Goofellas, if you let one more than the other, I'm not going to split hairs. I think Godfather's better
Starting point is 01:23:35 personally. Scarface, it just became like the show, it became like a culture. thing because like all the rappers would have it on MTV Cribs. They'd have the poster at the house. It became like a trope at some point. So, yeah, we'll push back on that one for now. It's still just a wild ridiculously movie though.
Starting point is 01:23:53 It puts fucking Al Pacino have to lay a Cuban the entire time. Yeah, I will have to see it one day, but in no rush. All right. Next week, we'll be back Invincible Season 4, Episode 5, and two episodes of Daredevil Board Against Season 2. It's going to be a good episode. And we'll talk to you then.

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