My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 493 - DAREDEVIL S2E3-4/INVINCIBLE S4E5 RECAPS

Episode Date: April 2, 2026

Robbie and Clem are back for another batch of #DaredevilBornAgain and #Invincible recaps! Plus we discuss the latest #Supergirl trailer and get into a whole bunch more nonsense. ****************************************   My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike!   Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool Follow Clem on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheClemReportYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners. You can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Hello and welcome to My Mom's Basement, presented by Barstool Sports, and a very special daredevil and Invincible special edition recap of My Mom's Basement. It's going to be a fun episode today. We've got two Daredevil episodes to talk about. They dropped two last night, and then one Invincible today.

It's a late-night recording. It's almost 8 p.m. here on the East Coast, and it'll be a lot. late night drop. So if any of the night owls are watching it right now, make sure to hit us with the tweets. And we'll hit you with the retweets. Clem, how we doing? Did we get the very,

because it's a double Daredevil debut? Yeah, we got to say that. I tried to say very special, special edition. Nice. George would see that one and go, I remember I went a little too far with this one. But I thought it was a good move. I mean, we'll get into Daredevil.

I've got a little basement keeping to get into. knowing these two Daredevil episodes were the ones that we were going to get good move to drop them at the same time they were both good don't get me wrong it wasn't like oh let's get these out of the way but everyone is saying like episode four on put your fucking seatbelt on it gets insane and for that I think yeah let's get to episode four as quickly as possible yeah this is kind of baseball season just starts started and I'm already in like the offense isn't hitting for the mats and whatever I'm like yo just get me to like mid-May right now so I have an idea with this team is and I'm not getting mad. Mid-May, come. I just saw you tweet, wake me up when September ends. So on our podcast, I have a Mets podcast for those are known, we got to believe.

All right, me, KFC, Phil, Kyle. I said to the paddle, if you could just simulate right now to the end of the season and then you start the playoffs or you don't, you know, depending if the team makes it, would you do it? I was like laughed off. They're like, are you serious?

Of course I would sign up. And that's, I agree. Baseball season is more about the journey than the destination. but as someone that's never seen the destination be the one I want, I just like, I'm kind of done with the journey, and I'll be happy. It's nice to have something every night.

But brother, get me there right now. Wake me up one September. I am very much of that realm. So, yeah, I'm with you. You're Clemer. You just want to sim all the games and see what the results are at the end with his MLB streams. I love Clemer. I love Clemer.

Speaker and scores games. He wouldn't simulate a minute of it. Actually, I said there. during the podcast too. I said he's the one that goes, well, you only have so many more baseball seasons left to your life. And I'm like, that is true. But it's also kind of like a threat. It's like from him it comes off like a threat. Yes, exactly. He's going to say, speaking of Clemour, check out Super Critics, my series with Clemour. It's funny that on this channel I have a series with Clem and a series with Clemour. I exclusively do shows with people of

that name. Last episode we did last week, last Thursday was Dolph Longwood's Punisher, bad movie where you see Duff Lundgren's ball sack at the end of it. And this week, we are finally onto good movies. We've got Tim Burton's Batman, 1989, dropping Thursday morning. So odds are if you're watching this, it's probably on the channel already. We talked a lot about the commentary that we did together for that. It was very, very fun one years ago. So we're finally at the good movies. We've got Batman, we've got Ninja Turtles, we've got Rocketeer, we've got Dick Tracy. So it's a lot of good ones from here on that. So I think for the people that have watched this show from the beginning,

Batman in 1989 is going to be like when black and white turns to color in the Wizard of Oz. It's like this is when the movies and the stuff starts getting a little better for everyone's stomach. A bad movie where you see Dolph Lundgren's balls at the end, that's like an AI generated movie description if I've ever heard. And I'll tell you what, I defended it a lot, gave it two and a half stars and Clemer was like, this is the worst movie ever and I was like, I liked it. I didn't like the ball sack at the end, but I like the movie.

And that's why I like you, Bob, because that's the kind of stuff you get behind me. I'm going to send us into just a quick little steer left here. I brought the kids to the city yesterday for spring break. It was a great time. On our way, we're just trying to get something to eat on our way out and trying to make it a little different than just a typical nonsense. And honestly, we tried to go to like some like cool, good restaurants,

everything booked. On the way home, I'm passed by Planet Hollywood. I'm like, you know, let's just take a shot here. Didn't see there was like a middle school, literal middle school trip waiting to go in. So they're like reservation only. Bummer. But this is what got my head thinking. I went to the reviews and I was not going to think about Planet Hollywood.

However, in the reviews, the only thing I read was the first thing I read in the review, said it was the AI generated thing where it takes all the reviews and kind of spits it out of you and said, people order the appetizer Ferris wheel. is a showstopper. Bob, have you ever heard of the appetizer? Farrasooke's based on your reaction, I don't think you have. Never. And we got to get it now. We got to go to Planet Hollywood.

We have to go to Planet Hollywood. We have to go to Planet Hollywood. I think I went once as a kid. I think it was probably like the Times Square one that I went to, I would imagine. And I loved it. I was walking around. It was like I was at a museum.

Like I love any place that has movie memorabilia for display. I'm a big Planet Hollywood guy for sure. I've only been there once. a big a fan of the idea. So I see it here. It's called the high roller sampler, because I'm a sampler guy too. I like a sampler. And I remember the infamous dog walk when Carl tried to draft the appetizer sampler. And I was like, man, I don't know if you can draft that. But then it's like my love of samplers just overcame. I see it here. I see a little picture of it. It is real. It's called the high roller sampler. And it's three to four people around $43. Usually consists of the

world famous chicken crunch, Texas Tostados, Buffalo wings, five cheese dip, fried jumbo shrimp. I'm not a shrimp guy, but everything else I will dig into. I'll take a huge shrimp guy. In that trade, can I then get the drumstick of the wings? You could have, obviously, but I'm a drumstick guy. I'm a black guy.

This is perfect. We are, we are some patty cover. This should be large as you got to, you got to try this. I see the picture of the Ferris wheel. I know it exists. I will not expand the picture to see it. I do want to see it in person. Does it move?

Do they bring it to the table moving? I had fireworks in mind spraying from it. I don't know. This is not an ad, by the way. We are not a ad sponsored this week, but we would love to be sponsored by Planet Hollywood for sure. We would love to be the faces of this thing. Planet Hollywood, if you're looking for business, we're not too pricing. No, we're not.

We're cheaper than probably most of the time square location that you have. So take care of us. And for anybody, again, in the comments, Twitter, hit us up with the reviews. of the wheel. Unless it's bad. I don't want to hear if it's bad. If you say it's bad, make it in like a glowing terms bad. Like you'll never thought you've had such bad chicken wings in your life.

Keep them to sneak up for us. Yes, exactly. And then I just wanted to shout out. Me and Fights are on the Dog Walk Thursday. And I was on TOT Star Wars again this week talking Legos. And we collab posted that one on YouTube. So it should be pretty easy to find two fun podcasts. The one with Fights and.

Eddie was talking quarter two. We're going to do four movie podcasts a year, talking about each quarter of the year and what we're excited for. So that was really good. Eddie put us on to some horror movies that we weren't aware of. And the TOTE Star Wars podcast is fun. We're just drafting like alternate builds for Lego Star Wars sets. It's real nerdy, but it got contentious.

I'm sure there is definitely an overlap in the Venn diagram of the people who will listen to this that would love to listen to that. So get them there. Again, that's three-fourths of the sours of. patch boy, sour patch man on the dog walk. So if you enjoyed the draft, which I'm telling it, it was like one of the better received things we've ever done at this company. Everyone just is like, I'm someone who's like, I don't even like candy that much, but I'm really listening to this. I love that, that warm my soul. So check that out. And again, not a Lego guy. I do have to shout

out people here, though. Anyone that, um, I see this was, oh, this I say, she would, it was on, the New York Post tweeted out of all people. That was probably an ad as well. ToynK.com. It has a, I won't spoil it, a certain character from Project Hail Mary. I was looking to buy this character, a version of it. They have a plush of the character available. I won't spoil anything. If you want to do it, search that on ToynK.com. A little pre-order comes out looks like End of May.

I got mine and I am very excited for a survival right now. Oh, yeah. Project Hail Mary, once again, this is an ad for Project. Yeah, go fucking see it. Free ad for Project Cal Mary. They deserve it. All right, real quick, before we get into Daredevil and Invincible, let's talk about the new Supergirl trailer that came out yesterday. As a fan of this comic, I have it on the shelf behind me, I think.

Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow is a really great comic by Tom King. And watching this trailer made it very clear that they're going to follow that pretty faithfully. The stuff with like crypto getting shot and they're like, we have three days. She's on, not on the run, but kind of like on this intergalactic road trip with this little girl. cram of the Yellow Hills is the villain, although he looks a lot different in the movie. I was very happy to see that they're going to faithfully follow that comic. It still has a lot of Guardians vibe.

She's got like an old iPod and a Walkman headphone set up and everything. I want to know from your point of view, Clem, what does this do, like, does this move the needle for you? Are you excited for this? I'm rooting for Supergirl, but we had the discussion in the office of like, is this movie going to get general audiences to go out and see it? It's sandwiched.

in between Toy Story 5 and minions, which is a really tough sell. They did them no favors. I guess this is a stacked year, but like a month, give an extra month to free. It's literally the week after and the week before. And that is something. So like I watched this trailer with AJ and he did like Superman. So it's like, oh, do you want to see this? Listen, I love the movies.

I want Jeff Dilo to have his theaters open forever. Casidee Calame, turning out that kind of cash. I need to get my RICO raise twice my salary. I'll go to all. I'll take the kids to all three movies because then that includes popcorn and slushies and everything else. This is the good thing about this trailer. They finally beat the Guardian's accusations because never in any of the

Guardians movies did we see a beloved furry character that everyone loved get hurt and was on basically a time clock to die and they had a, you know, figure out how to say it. Oh, wait, that was literally the plot of Guardian 3. I didn't even think about that. Stop making it seem like Guardians. And Guardians is maybe my favorite Marvel franchise outside of the Avengers. I bought the vinyl for, episode two is my favorite. I love it. And, or volume two, excuse me. I just saw it was on sale for $5. I'm like, maybe I'll just buy buy another one just to have it, you know, as a backup in case the first one gets scratched.

That's how much I love Guardians. And I'm like, this is doing this movie No Favorites. I think it looks more like Guardians than it did during the first trailer. Like at this point, they can't escape their Guardians merchants. Isn't that what you can say? Even like we're seeing baby crypto, kind of like baby groups. Yeah. It's driving.

And honestly, that was my first thing I thought of when it started. I was like, I just hope they were smart enough to make a cut where it seems like its own movie. And then I was like, they, they, basically should have just from Chris Pratt and Gruton there and then called it a death. Me and Clemer and Tommy and me and Ken Jack were talking about it. And Ken Jack made a good point. He was like Craig Gillespie and James Gunn are such similar filmmakers. Like the way Craig Gillespie uses the soundtrack and like I Tanya even is very, you could say, James Gunn-esque.

And I said that's a good point. Instead of James Gun were to make a movie about Tanya Harding, I think it would probably look a lot like the one we already have. But it is tough when it feels like we need for the DCU, I like the idea of going crazy. Like a lot of criticisms against Marvel are that it's cookie cutter. A lot of the movies are the same. I love the fact that we're doing Clayface. I don't know if I love that.

We're doing it right away. Like, of course, I love it. But I don't know if it's a smart idea to be like right out the gate. Clayface is one of the main things you're getting from the DCU. But I at least love that. It's off the wall, fucking weird horror movie, completely different vibe than Superman. This is a pretty similar vibe to Superman.

at least on the surface, and we have a little cameo from Superman in this very trailer. I am very excited. Again, I love the comic. So it looks like the comic to me, plus Jason Momoa Lobo. So all of that, I think, is great.

And it's also kind of a, you're doing a supergirl John Wick with crypto in a sense. I think that could get people to come out. I just don't know. I'm a little bit worried. And Clemer's making me worried, too, because he's like, I think this is going to bomb. He's like, I'm going to be honest with you.

This isn't doing much for me. And Tommy was like, yeah, it looks okay. Like until the end, he wasn't really, like the vibe around the office was like, everyone is supportive of it. Everyone's like, yeah, we'll see it. But it wasn't like, oh, my God, I can't wait for that. Yeah. And I'll admit, my criticisms are definitely skewed by just the Guardian stuff. In terms of wanting to see it, this is the thing.

I am closer to you than, say, a clemer in terms of I'm going to see it regardless, basically. Now, honestly, it might even help them for me to take my kids during that goddamn run. So it's Minions. And what's the other movie that it's sandwich between? Toy Story. Oh, my God. They're both going to make a billion. Like, both in like, I think Surefire a billion movies.

Hard B. Hard B for sure. I'm definitely seeing Toy Story. Minions probably not just because it doesn't have a grip on us. The kids like it. But again, movie theater, I'm going to be on this as well. I would probably, it would probably help me sell them on taking them. The fact I'd be like, well, if it's Guardian's zest, that's perfect for them.

I just wish it wasn't. I also think there's a chance we leave the theater and be like, oh, that was completely different, which is kind of what I'm hoping for. But even, and again, I understand James Gunn's not doing it, but it looks just like it. And then even during Superman, which is fine, I told you that when Mr. What's his name? It's not Mr. Incredible. Terrific.

He does his thing. I could Mr. Fantastic. Jesus. There's so many misters in our world just came in like recently. And he did have his own little rocket scene on the beach. So it's like that mixed with this. But in the end, I guess I shouldn't care. At least, like you said, we saw Lobo.

That was cool. He's right in the motorcycle. But again, I just maybe just show the scenes that don't have the orange tint. I don't know what it is. I just, even the music, make it something that's from like 2010 or closer. Because then you're going, if you're going with older music, I don't even know if the song could be new after I know. But it seemed like an older song. I don't remember.

Like I didn't recognize it right away. way. It felt like it would have been on the awesome mix. That's just how I felt when I was watching. I know. But listen, that's how we feel, obviously,

it's very guardian skewed. I guess the more concerning thing is the Tommies of the world, the Clemers of the world, the people that don't really have, I'd love to hear with KFCS to say, even though, did he hate Superman? I remember there was a whole thing.

He was right with Francesa, yeah. I'd love to hear what Francesa said, which, by the way, I don't know how many people watch the dozen. Did you see our match on the dozen? No, no. We played against the booze ponies, and we had a call Fran for a photo friend.

Well, our beloved boss, Dave. Oh, I did see this. And I'm not an agent. And I'm not an age shamer. Dave's getting a little older, though. And technologies, he took about 10 minutes to find Fran in his phone. And before he called Fran, he goes, oh, I'm calling Francesa by mistake. And he FaceTime Francesa that after the game's over, he texts me and Eddie goes,

just got off the phone after 10 minutes, Frances, after 10 minutes with Francesa, I'm not sure what we even talked about. But I said, imagine if Francesa picked off, and he goes, hey, what is this face match up picture? That would have been all time. That would have been so good. I would say maybe the greatest moment of it does it.

I think it trumps the McGriff crime dog as the most absurd thing you could have possibly dreamt of. So I would love to hear what Dave thinks about something like this. And obviously my princessa, who I'm pretty sure he was against the dog, right? That was the biggest thing. Hated the dog. And this trailer is crypto-heavy.

I don't think he's in on this. More crypto than, you know, the most- Rancisa thought they made up the dog for the movie, I think. He was like, I remember Superman. There was never no dog. It's like, what were you reading? Oh, there's never a Supergirl or a dog. It's like they're very much a big part of it.

That's the other thing. I don't like, I don't like the dog being in danger. Like, come on. Again, I didn't like, when Rocket was like just sitting on the hospital, I don't want to see a dying dog on my screen for an hour. It makes me sad, but it also does make me root for a fucking revenge story. What do we say about this, Bob, Chee Pete? That is Chee Pete.

It's the girl. It is, yeah. Chee Pete. You don't like that. You're anti-Chi Pete on this podcast. And if you are pro-Chipeet, it means you're pro-hitting girls, pro-killing dogs. Not this podcast. No.

And we're not talking about it. order there, Bob. We're not talking about the cheapie podcast. That's a famous wrestling podcast. We're not talking about that. Oh, yeah, no. Oh, that is a wrestling podcast. I've definitely seen that before. Okay. All right. Let's get into Daredevil, Born Again, Season 2, episode two, and then we'll also roll right into episode three. I think last week we were looking for 75 miles an hour at some point during this, right? That was kind of the goal range. I think we hit 75 with this. And both episodes had a similar structure in that they kind of built up and built up and built up and built up and you get fucking sick fight scenes at the end of both when we were in the midst of those fight scenes each of

them i was fucking cheesing feeling like we were at 75 loving the violence kind of wincing at some of the violence at times dare devil does that to you um but i thought these were two really good episodes for action for uh bull's eye really cool bullsie stuff in both little you know hints of them and our boy Michael Gandalfini. It's cool to see him get a little sinister at times and see a little Tony coming out. So I did enjoy that. And this wasn't even,

he did get sinister with it, but before he got sinister, there's the scene when he's eating with BB and they're sharing a meal. The way he looked at her, it's going to sound crazy. This could be Sopranos fan boy. Hand up, that was me.

I was a Sopranos fan boy back of the day. The way he looks at her is the way Tony used to look at his gum, is back when he's like in his happy place he's eating with glory and these are the good times of it all. I'm not saying that's a relationship they have, but I saw the glimmer. The boy has the glimmer. He got his dad's glimmer and I'm very happy for him that he got his dad's glimmer. But then it is he shows Tony's range. Like in that scene and I know I shouldn't like everyone's going to always compare this guy to his dad and Tony Soprano.

It's unfair. It's unfair. He's in the shadow. But I really did feel that it kind of saying he's wearing the ankle. bracelet and every or not the ankle the bracelet on his wrist or whatever i kind of did see it flipping his eyes when he's like are you fucking with me kind of like i made you this nice dinner but it was almost like is this going to be your last dinner i'm testing you a little bit here i felt it from him i was like this is a fucking great role for him that feels like and this is across all of

season two so far through the three episodes i talked to a daredevil resident expert sam goldfinger about this and he agreed everything feels better written in season two so far in terms of last season we know was kind of like Frankenstein's together with the original take on the show, the MCU edition, some of the reshoots. This one is a very cohesive narrative so far where everything is just falling at the place well. I had it at about 71 miles per hour where I think. Okay. So you go, we're a little, so say this is how I'm thinking my head.

55 is the speed limit on this road we're on. Yes. Once you hit 65, you're like, okay, this is the limit. Once he's 71, you're like, okay, we're over the limit. I'm not, now they said pedal to the metal. The pedal did not hit the metal. We can agree on it. No, not yet.

Not yet. No, no, no. And that's fine. Based on what I'm hearing, there will be pedal to metal at some point during the season. Very excited for that. Just not today. So 71 is fine. I'm more than fine with it.

And I also, like you said, again, the Tony stuff. He almost, he's from Staten Island in the show, right? I'm sure they alluded to that. I forgot about it. Staten Island and Jersey, and I'm sure they're all pissed off both sides of us in this. They're kind of like kissing cousins between the two of them. I throw an islanders in there.

And I don't, Rico, I don't want to get on Rico's bad side here. You motherfucker don't do that. I don't want the dog coming at me next. But it's kind of funny because that's Tony, obviously, was a Jersey kid and he's a Staten Island guy.

So I'm just, it's like in neighbors, the show that we've recommended on HBO. So a lot of the times the people fighting are very similar. It's like, yeah, we would be playing Dungeons and Dragons together, but they're in Staten Island. Like Jersey and Staten Island definitely have a little bit of that dynamic. Two magnets, you put them together, but they fight apart. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Some of the things I noted in episode two especially, I think it was. Well, actually, episode two and episode three. There's two scenes. Daredevil has been known to aura farm, as the kids say in the past. some of the oriforming in these episodes are off the church he's oriforming over them wheeling cherry's body into a fucking ambulance thank god he's alive

we're all happy he's alive but he's stinting over the fucking building oar farm and kind of like he was in episode one of the first season when foggy's obviously being wheeled down and then in episode three him shirtless in the punisher's lair with karen i was like put a fucking shirt on charlie cox you don't need to be showing off like that now you could tell me if this is the case and it's probably not it's probably just my dumb brain. That guy on the top of your shirt right there. Is there ever a time you think

that our boy Daredevil is trying to get his Batman on? Because when he's on the top, he's a perched. He's a percher. And listen, Batman's a percher. He's a bat. What are bats? Blind. Daredevil. Did he lose his sight just to be Batman?

I feel like I'm doing the dumbest version of a Nick Tarani, like, genius level, bend diagram. When he like blows my mind except this is my stupid brain trying to do that but i feel like there's there's some aura farming he's trying to be the bat right now and i don't think you should appreciate that as a bat guy well they do have a lot of similarities between the two you know daredevil's like he's not orphaned completely but he kind of is like he's got like you know adopted like a stick is kind of

his alfred i guess of the way who trained him and every almost an absolute alfred in terms of training or something like that um but they there are a lot of similarities between they're both vigilantes that are outlawed and sometimes hated by the city and they both control not the biggest area of their universe. Batman, a little bigger Goth of city. I love that Daredevil just has, you know, a little section of New York. Yeah. It's not Hell's Kitchen.

You know, Spider-Man could handle that shit. What's a part of Gotham, like a neighborhood of Gotham? What's Hell's Kitchen of Gotham? Do you have one? Like Crime Alley, I think, has become in the comics more than just a single alleyway. I think that's sort of the area. So maybe Crime Alley would be something like that. And you said vigilante?

I think I'm going to make a promise to the audience, unless everyone hits me up instantly, it says, don't do this. Whenever vigilante is said, I'm going to say it in Kingpin's voice, okay? Oh, no. I say vigilante.

We're going to say vigilante. Just like Vanessa. Because there has been a lot of Vanessa talk. So we're going to talk vigilantes as well. Yeah. Wilson brings up Sister Maggie in church, speaking of mothers, orphaned mothers or whatever,

or Darryl's mom. Awesome blue lighting again. I love that every time for the, for the bullseye scenes. Wilson Fis, training for a boxing match, like a charity boxing match. We knew this from the trailer. We saw a clip of him punching someone, and he's got his fucking trainer, and Buck tells him in this scene, you know, Bolzai helped Daredevil escape, and we've got point.

I love with Poindexter, the way he says that. And then I think Fisk gets so mad that he kills his trainer with one punch. Do you think that was a kill? Because we didn't get confirmation, but the shattered mirror in the blood indicated that to me. So I was thinking of this. I'm like, all right, we're going to get the comfort,

kill com, confirmation body count, right? And there was none of that. And this is the first time that I probably watched it the first season. I forgot, though. I'm like, let me see if I should rewatch the intro and then rewatch every time out. Got to tell you,

that intro is way too long with way too long. Can we agree on that much? No, I agree. I agree. And I love the theme, but I wish the intro was a little better itself. And hey, listen, if the Daredevil fans of Goldfinger is like, guys, you don't understand what this means to us Daredevil fans, the way they threw double D up there, it was absolutely perfect.

Then listen, it's just, it's, skip intro was right there for me. I will be accepting that from here and out. And I do hope everyone else enjoys it. But for me personally, it just caused me to forget, did he kill the trainer? Obviously not a very important fact, unless. we find out somehow the trainer has returned in Fortnite down the road. I don't know what's going to happen. Yeah, trust tree.

I didn't skip it in episode two. Of course I skipped it in episode three. I wasn't watching it twice in 45 minutes. Yeah, it would have been thinking it would have a 90 minute day. It's a 45 minute intro. Yeah, I ain't doing that shit. Buck suggests, I like this scene a lot. When Buck suggests we out Matt Murdoch as Daredeffle, and it's very much laid out for the audience of like, hey, buddy,

like he saved my life last season so I can't do that but then the 3D chess move from pink bin is I am going to outman Murdoch but not as Daredevil as a hero that this city needs to find that he's missing and now there's missing posters all over the city and Karen Page has to go out and the worst wig of all time I loved all of that I thought it was awesome I it's one of those things that you see it in the book and then it's progressively getting and then literally half the frame, half the page is just one big frame, fine Matt Murdoch or whatever. And I was like, that's kind of shit that these villains pull.

And I saw some people saying it felt like he carried more weight, literally, more so figuratively, as Kingpin than he has as the mayor, which I guess he kind of have to play the political game to get just be a fucking criminal in the office, at least for everyone to see. But that was like 40 chess kind of stuff. And I really did dig.

I go, ooh, that was a move, right? I did the referee. Ooh, you know. Yeah. That referee rules, which is name. I'm sure you know it. Oh, no, not off the top of my head, which is bad because I should. He's more, you know, he's a boxing referee, but larger no right away.

Largerna. He's a legend. Yeah. The BB report that I saw get filmed, at least one of them. I think I saw two things get filmed. So I saw this one that is just a lady in like a yellow jacket and she's talking about the city. It's kind of a nothing burger. But I also saw one where BB herself is in front of the camera.

and an AVTF then like rolls down the street and it kind of like disrupts everything. Whoa, this is coming past. So I think there's probably another one coming up that unless it was cut that I saw. But yeah, the one I saw, I was kind of like, oh, so I saw kind of a nothing burger. It is what nice. It's okay. We still have one more to go, right? At least one more to go.

Yeah. And then as long as it wasn't cut. And then we see like the leak from the inside stuff, which a lot of this episode focuses on the leak. Because that video, the fake kingpin video from last week, there was. was a part of it, the Daredevil part that came from Daniel's computer. And I liked every part of this, them going to Sheila about it, Kingpin talking to Sheila, Kingpin talking to Daniel and the, you know, is there anyone in this building you feel the need to protect?

And he's like, yeah, you. And he's like, good answer. Like, that was good. Even the shot of Kingpin sitting on the desk over him with his hand on his shoulder, with the sunlight coming in through the window, they were cooking with that shit. They were moving. I liked that one a lot. And I said, my guy, like, again, I'm rooting for Gandel Phoenix.

I was like, all right, we're off the hot seat a little bit. We're on the Toasty Butt rankings. We're like down to probably six and a half right now. Because, again, everyone else is kind of looking at each other. It's departed. Who's the rat here? Yeah. And you're just hoping your boy talks himself off.

He is kind of like enough of a stumbag where I think by the end, we're going to just want him to get got. And who do we? Who is the kid from a penguin that died? Vic? Right. I think we thought Vic might be, Gandalfidi might be getting the victory when it's all.

Yeah. I think there's a good chance. I don't know if it'll be season two yet. I could see him narrowly making it out of season two, but by the time season three rolls around, yeah, get ready to learn stealing from your wallet. And they're hammering the job title.

I wonder if it's like you can see his job titles rides throughout the years or if he's just been known as this and they're going to hammer it home. But who's Kingpin's right hand man again? Buck? Buck, yeah. I wonder if he's going to be the new, like, I think it's in him versus Buck, basically. It's a game of musical chair.

There's only one chair left. Who's going to survive that game? It's going to be interesting today. I think it's in, I'm pretty sure it's in the next episode it is. When he has Bucktry the hot dog, I really like that scene. Yeah. I have a question for you. Yeah.

And they go to the hospital to visit Cherry. The Jurassic Park cops. Oh, Jurassic Park. These guys are dinosaurs. They're old people. Is that an agent of she? Is it agent of shield? Is it a daredevil thing?

Do you know who these cops are? Clearly they're saying to a VTF. Is that the group? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was just going to call mice. Like that I'm like, oh, yeah. Marbles ice for sure. Yeah.

And listen, guys, I'm not saying that. I'm not making my political statements. This is what's family. He looks out his window. It's so clear. And now it's going to stay. Take an Angela's mom and that, that whole scene. and people take their phones out and start filming it.

Like it's not subtle at all. That's what it is. Okay. So you didn't know the cops off the top of your head. I didn't know if I was supposed to know them. I didn't know if anything were. I think we maybe we're supposed to recognize them. I think we probably were because we have Powell's friend comes back and he's like,

are you sure you want to fucking come back? And he's like, I'm ready for it. Like there are definitely ones that maybe I should have rewatched Born against Season 1 before this. I think we probably should have recognized them. I also just love the old New Yorker energy. coming off that room. I was like, oh, we nailed that.

Good casting. Are we still going to have Irie and order the pizzas? Like, just, yeah. Yeah. That was good stuff. The fake diapers on the ship, I like that. It's just a subtle, like, that is subtle of them being like, all right, we're going to cover this up because this is something that should be covered on the news and should, you know,

attention should be here for it. So we have to think of something to put in place there. Then we get the White Tiger stuff. Angela Del Toro comes back. Good scene. Like the whole back and forth with the shoplifters and everything. Felt very real. Felt very New York as well.

I saw a take here. And I guess like I was going to say at the end, we can say now, I need White Tiger to start doing some bullshit. And maybe that's part. She does. Yeah. Maybe that's.

You get a little bit at the end of three when they break the truck in. But like she's not, you know, it's her and Karen like kind of just like doing something with a big truck. I need her to kick some ass. you name yourself like the white armadillo. Okay. The white pelican. You throw a white tiger.

That's a pretty badass animal right there. The ambulance supposed to give her some powers, right? Yeah. She's wearing that. So like, let's see some shit here. Let's see some cool-ass white tiger stuff. White tiger,

that's what I need from the white tiger. I'm asking, and listen, that might be the thing that gets us an extra 10 miles per hour. I'm talking white tiger has that kind of puts in my mind, whether or not it's, Tiger power. If you're getting a horse power,

let's see all the fucking vigilantes come together in New York. Let me see Daredevil, white tiger. We know we're getting Jessica Jones this season, swordsmen. Like, let's get a fucking cool group scene. I think we're going to by the end of this season for sure.

The way people are talking about it, I saw tweets last night. People were like the final three episodes of this season, some of the best things like Marvel's ever done. So you think we're getting the super team? I think we're getting sort of a super team. I don't think we're going to get Punisher. I think they are going to hold.

him for his own special. But maybe not. Punisher, that's our Steph Curry of the super team. I know. I guess Steph was, I'm thinking like basketball. Whatever. Punishers are Steph. But then who's Kevin Durant, Bob?

Who's Kevin Durant? The Spider. The Slim Reaper, we need a Slim Reaper. Oh, Spider is Kevin Durant. And you put that, that's a super team. I'll give them Super Team. They got all the people you talk about there and the people I may not know of. Electra, the vigilante, maybe she shows up.

I'll put Super Team in lowercase. I get the spider. When was it? Was it in this episode or, oh, it was in the next episode. I was thinking of Spider-Man because in the fake fist video in episode three, they say your friendly neighborhood, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, ooh, they threw in a friendly neighborhood. I'll keep my fucking eye on that.

I'd love if the writer came out. I was like, that was just honestly coincidence, guys, it wasn't. Yeah, I didn't even think about it. I won't even know that's a thing. Now you guys call Spider-Man. I like when the scene where Heather Glenn goes and starts reporting her Ducane case to Vanessa, and she is clear she's like reporting to her boss here, Vanessa hits those people about vigilantes.

And I was like, oh, that's so Marvel universe. Like we're getting ready for them to once again start throwing around that hard M for mutants. Yes, we are. I'm getting ready for that at the backlash. I still have to learn. we still have to get clearance. We're going to be able to say that when they're through. Yeah.

Matt tunes in on something at Josie's. It's just, I thought this was kind of a weird scene where it's just Angie showing up. It's just, I guess, to show the paranoia. But like Angie just shows up and then like we built to eventually, they pop in later. But the way that this was edited maybe, I thought it was just like a strange,

like it threw me off a little. Okay. So I'm not an editing guy. A lot of those kind of cinematographies, all that stuff. kind of above my head. I did feel there was some weird editing stuff in this patch. And I was like, that's probably just me. So the fact you said that lets me know I wasn't crazy. That one scene,

and it's, listen, it didn't like break the episode for me. But that would be my one nitpick if I could have a nitpick is the scene where Angie shows up, just the whole vibe of it and the way they were cutting it. The tension was kind of like up and down it. And then you go right from that to a mere fist video again. And that was kind of just all over the place and then at the end of this one takes off the mask it was bb you're against which i thought it was you thought it was i think a lot of people thought it was it's not the most shocking twist but i think it's probably the right twist because now it puts them in that once again weird spot like we had last season with the head of the police where it's like

you're kind of already in but you're working against fisk but you're also friends with daniel so now bibby's in this spot where it's like yeah her her ass is in the jackpot as well she she's on the it's not the suss list it's the potentially death list potentially deathless that's hot seat you want to talk hot seat firmly firmly on the hot seat i'm not going to lie bob i was hoping for something listen i'm not hoping for like you know the spider for that or anything but i'm i'm a wrestling fan give me the weird nostalgic bump i want royal rumble give me the bushwhackers even though the bushwhackers haven't wrestled in 20 years give me something weird yeah just a literal

a pushwhacker was the guy and he goes back, turns off the videotape and starts doing the pushwacker shuffle. That would have been the weirdest twist of all time. But these two would have loved it. There is a target. Nobody else, but we would have loved it for sure. And kind of going back to the wrestling thing. When Vince McMahon, it was me, Austin, it was me all along. It was like, God damn it.

It makes sense. But I was hoping for something else. But it kind of does help the story here. So in the end, it all works. Everything's wrestling. right everything's wrestling yeah and then we get the Vanessa dream which I thought was cool when she wakes up or wakes up and sees the blue rose and then she's in central park and then she sees like the baseball and the contract and the wakes up and the rose is red and then kingpin if we're being honest he

that's how you got to handle that as the husband he was very very warm to her in that moment our boy kingpin's a hand holder when he sleeps how about that that's your fun now but But Vanessa's like, you know, his fucking, that's his girl. Like, he never wants to leave her side again. So that doesn't shock me. But in that moment, I was like, damn, Kingfin's fucking, he's got the Rids right now. He, oh, it's okay. It's okay.

I'll wake up with you. Did, did, was there a baseball and then a pen for an autograph? Did I see that right? I think it was like the pen for the contract that she signed with Lindexter, that he signed with them back in the day. probably. Okay, because I thought and I'm like, is there some sort of a baseball angle I'm missing here right now? So, I think Dex used the baseball

at one point for sure. I think he knows Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, all right. And I mean, I was hoping against hope you want to talk, getting crazy. This isn't quite bushwhacker, Luke crazy, but if I can get King and say the Mets, the Mets, I can get that mean at some point.

There's a chance. I think there's a chance he says it this season. Why not? We need it. We need it. Schedule me a first pitch. I want to throw it out at Seafield. I know, Vanessa, I love the mess. I love the mess. The mess.

The mess. I was thinking he would get along with Anakin in the bed scene when he's like, I hate the feeling of sand between my toes. If we ever get big vints on the podcast, I'm going to ask him just to do the line himself in case we don't get it on the podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wonder if he would, like, charge us like a cameo. know, like if he's on the pod, ever and we're like, hey, can we get a little thing?

If he's like, 20 bucks and be like, all right, what's your Venmo, bro? We got you. There's a limit of how much I would pay until I would try to put some of it off on the parcel expense account. There is a limit I would pay, though. I'm just out of pocket. And then you're right, like, this is for me and Robbie. Like, you know, when you're at the dinner with someone, you're like, just so you know,

this wasn't only me. This is for the two of us. And I will be tweeting this after every Mets win for as long as it takes. You know, this is our meme for when we win. Put it in the books and then it's Vincent Naprio saying the Mets. Oh, God. I love this stupid world we live in. We got the anti-vigilante task force breaking into Josie's at the end of the episode.

Karen beats the shit out of one of these guys. It was cool to see her throw some hands. There goes their hideout, though. They were talking about the hideout in like the bed scene beforehand, oh, our different locations, whatever. See it to this hideout. And this fight scene is so good from the. moment that daredevil takes the gun turns it on them and then hits the smile he goes fucking

meleys only with this gun mele's only the hell out of him with the both of them it was so cool it had me smile yeah when he grabs the guy's head and rams it into the pillar violent as hell matt screaming for karen they reunite at the end and she shows him uh oh over a punisher's crib i've got a guy hostage and that's the ending of this episode which is a great cliffhagger and i was excited that you know, I could roll right into the next one after. It was very much, and I think I've seen a friend's cat do this, like the, hey, want to see the mouse I just call it? Like, she had that energy, I heard you.

Wait, you're mad at me now? You're all going to love to see it. It's like, see this human I just kidnapped? And she's like, huh? And she's like, touching up with her elbow. Like, Karen. It's fucking Bernie Yoda from Goodmells. Karen.

What are you talking about, Karen? Oh, my gosh. Also, shout up my fellow historians. I looked it up. The restaurant, they showed the building. And then I was psycho stuff, the building next door, it said Pinini and I had an address, 3408 is the building next door. 3408, 31st Street.

Boom, right? Smacking Astoria. The tavern there in is permanently closed, unfortunately. So I guess that's why they were able to shoot there. Yeah, that makes sense. That's cool, though. I love all the real New York locations they use. There was a shot, I think it was right before the, like, bodega scene with Angela's mom

getting arrested, where you could see this, like, a green storefront in the reflection. I was like, oh, that's on eighth half. Like that's not too far from like the decision. Like I knew immediately where it was and I love that feeling. It's not on the volume. It's not on a fucking soundstage in Atlanta. This is the New York show.

They're shooting in Hell's Kitchen. They're shooting in a history. They're shooting, you know, that that gives it such a cool raw feel that this needs. Should we go full and just really just lean into the only in New York side of things? Only in New York. And then everyone can dump out when they're like, only in New York, you can visit a dirty deli where the cat is there. You call it a bodega.

Let's just lean into that and be the New York podcast. It's like, I wish I could go to the street where Ebony Maugh confronts Tony Stark in Infinity War, but that's a soundstage in Atlanta or, you know, in Atlanta. You can't. With this show, you actually can. If you're doing a New York visit, if you're out of town, you could look up like Daredevil shooting locations. You can go visit Josie's if you want. Like, this is what makes the MCU, the MCU. you have little gritty corners like this.

It's culture, Bob. It's our culture. You should be proud. I remember our boy Devlin when he first moved to New York. He's like, I get to see where Spider-Man was doing this. I got to see where the Avengers were doing that. And I'm like, isn't that a beautiful thing right there? And it's very cool.

I'm going to Chicago. Live out the dark night fantasies. Every time. You even threw on the Bruce voice there. And then we roll right into episode three. Karen's recon was knocking this guy at. She's like, I did some recon. It was just knocking this guy the fuck out.

But there's something different about this one. I promise. The difference is, this guy's a double agent kind of. He wants to take Powell down and help them. Daredevil's not completely buying it right away. And he's like, listen, I'm going to knock you out. And then I'm going to throw you out there. And you're going to tell your boys, I beat the shit out of you.

And he's like, you got to take, as he's saying, like, you got to take Powell down or whatever. I'm not with pal. Boom, knocks him out in the middle of that sentence. She's cold. That's something Batman would do. that is that is super cool he must have like we must have like watch the dark night the night before and was like i got to step my game up here because that was really i've been throwing a lot of people and creatures all over the place on the suss list willy-nilly i was this guy i was sold on

instantly as crazy as it sounds i was like matt what the fuck was that dude this is our friend right i believe them i believe them i believe you think any of it was rollover just um it's not even like he truly didn't trust the guy. It's like the conversation they had the last episode, him and Karen, where he was like, come on. Like, there might be some light in point Dexter. She was like, fuck, no, he killed fog. You think he's just pissed about that?

You know, Bob, you do raise a good boy. Because that was uncalled for. That was uncouth, I would say. I'd go back and forth. I'm like, Karen's kind of right. He did kill foggy. But at the same time, I'm like, Matt Murdoch, this is what I love about the guy. He's got that Luke Skywalker in him where he's like, no.

like, you know, it's the fucking Catholic and what it is really, where he's like, no, like, we can redeem this person. It's like any positive that comes out of bull's eyes just luck at this point in mind. And listen, I know it's a change of my tune. It's just, it's Vince, it's Mr. McMahon all over again. I know we could be on our side

and I know you're going to turn on us at the worst moment. I just, I have no problem with Matt or Karen being like, dude. I, listen, I'm not even a foggy guy. I didn't, I saw this guy lied for like three seconds and i'm i'm taking her side here i'm shocked at you robert i'm legitimately shocked at you i guess it's you're it but you know what you're a loop guy too you have i'm a louis guy you literally held the lightsaber on your arm so that's yeah that's just got something

on my sleeve you know forgive don't forget uh heather once she's still losing it so heather this episode she's got the the muse mask in her fucking junk drawer she pulls it out of there and she's staring at all you almost did this pickpakes. I almost did a full blog about junk drawers. I was like, I had people send me their junk drawers and I, like, you know, pictures of it. And I was just going to read them. That'd be fun. I love junk chores.

It's one of my favorite natural things that all humans do on their own. I love the fact that if you went through my junk drawer, imagine you just saw a bloody mask. I know. What is this club? And the person that tried to kill you. But I have seen in the comics there, there is like a second news that's a girl. So a lot of people do think is she going. and to the point where she's going to put the mask on at some point.

I think that'd be a cool way to take it. Because right now her character, and she's written this way, so they're achieving what they're setting out to do. She's pissing me off, man. And that scene with Kirsten outside, where she goes up and just starts slandering our boy Matt to him, like a scornedex when she's still like, Daredevil didn't save me.

I saved me. And he's a vigilante. We got to get rid of him. It's just like, leave him alone, man. Yeah. And listen, I have my. my own personal issues with him as well occasionally as I just vented. Yeah.

She was, she actually, I didn't say the actress did a good job because it would be like someone tall notes on you like. You're like, just shut up. But I, my note is literally shut up with like, uh,

six peas. Uh, when her scenes come on, I don't do it, but I basically am acting like it. I'm basically doing the jerk off motion. I get out of this. Yeah.

You almost got killed by a, a psychopath murderer. Come on. Who amongst us? Pocket. Speaking of the bloody mask and the thing, the craziest stuff you could find in the house. Did you ever,

there was like a viral thing that went viral like a year or two ago where people have puke buckets in their house, which I have a puke bucket for my kids. My kids came home in the hospital. They had a little plastic bucket. We use that bucket for when they would get sick. If they can't make it to the garbage in time or the toilet, they would throw open the bucket,

we'd dump it out, we'd wash it, and we'd keep it. There are people in this world who use it as like their popcorn bucket when they're not using it as a pute bucket you've never heard of your face you never have i saw that and honestly i think a bloody mask of the person that almost killed you in your drunk drawer is less crazy than the person that reuses the pot i don't know if it was or lovosts i don't get another bucket get a bowl we don't we live in a world with i mean essentially infinity buckets we can make infinity buckets right infinity buckets that's a hashtag for this week hashtag And they reuse it.

I don't even like touching that bucket after it's been washed and not used for two years. I see that bucket. When my kids see it, it's like I just took the boogeyman out of like to the bottom underneath the kitchen, the bathroom sink. And I'm like up the button. And they're like, ah,

how do you know what? Nice night for a movie. Let's go get the pew bucket and throw some delicious popcorn in there. It's red flagged. You know, Seinfeld, you take the book into the bathroom. The book gets red flagged. Yes.

The bucket's red flag. Oh, very much red flag. Extremely. I mean, the darkest maroon possible of a flag. You got to throw that. Listen, if you're one of the listeners, let us know in the comments below or on Twitter. And listen, no judgment. Maybe you're, it's like my family was it and I escaped and maybe you were like a being

on the religious cult. It's like my family did that. And I thought it was wrong. If you were one of those people that reuses the bucket, let us know, infinity buckets. Let us know. Yeah, infinity buckets. Kirsten is brought down blindfolded. They put like a goggles on her to Duquesne.

I thought cool scene and cool idea of like this tyrannical government AFTV is not even let you see where you're like putting a bag over your fucking head, which then plays in when she describes it to Matt through sound, which is another thing where I'm like, I'm not going to think too hard about this. It's comic books. And I like the idea that she could tell him, I heard pigeons and then I heard a drop.

And he's like, all right, I think I got it. I got this exact stuff. Say no more. The Daredevil stuff, I actually find that kind of stuff entertaining at this point. And we did get him feeling a knife, too, for all our fortune cookie slander last week. That is true. That was in there for us. That was a reshoot from last week.

Yes. We have to take care of the boys here. I was thinking when she's like, this is what Matt sees all the time, basically. He has like the sonar vision or whatever from all the training. And in a scene that's also not super subtle. in their real life intentions. He talks to Duquesne and about the shakedown. And he's like, she's like, oh, they don't have the evidence.

And he's like, do we even need, do they even need the evidence nowadays? And it pans from that to people in cages. Literally like in that scene. I see what you're doing there. I see what you're doing there. Yep. The governor gets a copy of the Red Hook Charter. So that goes back to what we were saying about maybe King can having less like polar juice as the mayor.

The governor's already breathing down his neck of like, well, this fucking charter says that I control you. And I like that dynamic too, or she's reminded him like, it's not a show that leaves you wondering, like, wouldn't the governor be stepping in at any point here? Like, they do step in. And they're kind of like, I don't know about this, man. I don't know. I don't think you can do what you're saying. You can do. Yep.

No, Mr. Charles. Big criticism. No, Mr. Charles in episode two or three. Big criticism. some huge criticism. Honestly, that was like the, what do they call it when a car can't go a certain, like they call it a, they can't go like over a certain. Oh yeah, it's like locked it all a certain, yeah.

Like it's how they do the scooters in the streets now, they lock them. Yep. It's like a restrictor. That's what Mr. Charles, you can't go over 71 miles per hour. In my book, he has to be somewhere in the episode. I'm going to say this. Maybe it's because he's new. Maybe it's because the show has so many other good characters.

I loved Mr. Charles last week. I didn't think about him during these two episodes. I wasn't looking for him, but then, like, at the end, I was like, Mr. Charles. Yeah. Mr. Chuck today. Did you see what DeNafrio said about being on set with Matthew Lillard?

He was like, he's such a phenomenal actor, and he's such a great guy. But I got to be honest, just the nature of the scenes we were filming, he would show up on set, and I'd have just a little disgust in my face when I saw him. I'd be like, oh, here comes this guy to fucking dominate me. He was like, it takes a great actor to be able to do that to me.

But he's like, he did that to me. That's my guy right there. That's my guy. Are we getting like, I think I want to invest on the Matthew Lillard. What kind of Oscar odds can we get on him right now, Bob? I'm telling you, the Renaissance is coming. The Renaissance. He needs his like Brian Crenstin role, you know, like he was in a bunch of fun things.

and then he gets fucking Walter White, like Matthew Lillard can have a Walter White type role, I bet. Tell me you can't see a world. Tell me you can't see a world after he wins the Oscar. And it's like all the memes of him as shaggy start coming back out. Oh, yeah. And the laugh, right? Probably when they're showing,

when Brian Cranston first really blew up as Walter, they probably show on all the Seinfeld stuff and the Malcolm in the middle stuff. I think it's not as absurd as KFC's John Mellencamp, right? Wasn't that his bet? No, yeah. I was going to win like an Oscar or a Grammy, obviously. So, and I think Rico has it out, an episode. I think Julia Stiles winning the Oscar.

I'm a Matthew little guy flag planted. So could be supporting, not going to be the lead. But I'm telling you, he's getting a statue. Then we get the Daniel having Buck try a hot dog scene. Tells him you got to find out of the leak is. It's not flattering at all, that whole scene. Were you interested in that hot dog? I was interested in that.

Oh, I was interested in the dog. Of course, there's rarely a dog I'm not interested. Well, it's got like relish or anything like that. I'm not a big toppings guy, as you know. But a chili dog, a cheese dog, I can get down with any of that shit. I'm a sucker for the this viral thing is the best or the hottest or the whatever. Large goes to a place and he's telling me about it. I'm like, oh, man, this thing has to.

He had a, what is the biggest French dip in the city? I'm like, well, I like French dips. Sure would like to try that right now. I mean, we're two guys that just like did a segment about a Ferris wheel of appetizers. Like, a gimmick will get us. We are the most gimmickable people of all time. We locked in on our chicken cutlets taste last week. Remember that? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I texted you the next day. I got a chicken cutlet sandwich. And I was like, oh, there's an Italian deli near the office. I'm going to go there. And Bob, as soon as you said that, I looked up their

menu and I was kind of like putting together my brain, which one I'm going to go with. Let me hear you take real quick. We've talked about it for sure. And I'm pretty sure you're with me on this. I think we talked about someone recently. I was drinking it today. My orange soda. You're an orange soda guy, right? Got my first one in a while this week. Oh. How about that? That's a, which kind?

It was, I didn't even recognize the bottle. It was a delivery order and they had, it says orange cream soda. And I was like, you know what, I haven't had an orange soda in front? It was from a Thai place. And it came in a fucking bottle. And I was just like, oh, what a great choice. Are we talking potential Thai? Was it like in a different language potentially here?

No, it wasn't. No. I didn't go internet. with it. Exquisite. Rare foreign stuff right there. But it was more of like a boiling than like a phanta, you know? Okay. That's fair. That's fair. I am a huge orange soda guy. Power rankings. I think I got Kola 1 because it's kind of the utilitarian, the monster, the chicken cutlet of soda, as you can say. And I'm not looking to step on Frank the tank stoves here. I don't know how much of boys who's even drinking soda these days. He's turning into nothing. But orange soda, push comes to shove, I think is my number

too just flat out my number two in terms of favorite i don't drink it all that much i basically don't drink cola and the occasional orange now i really don't drink it much diet dr pepper is actually fantastic as well pop a club too great soda yeah grape soda is just a bridge too far for me i'm really into both i don't i and i can't even tell you the last time i had a grape soda but every now and then a good grape soda in the summer i love yes and they are definitely cousins in the soda game very yeah not even cousins i'll say brother sister. They're like brother's sister for sure. Yeah. And the same part of my brain, but it's like I almost, if I'm going to do great, I might as well just go with orange because

I love it so much. And I'm also a diet. Who loves orange soda? Klamm loves orange soda. Yeah, I've learned of that one. I was too old for that, unfortunately. Yeah. Oh, the best Keenan and Akiel. If there's any young whippersnappers that are in the basement right now that haven't seen it, it's worth going back and checking it after this day. My wife has rewatched all the old, all that's with my son. And he is. Oh, really? Loving it.

He, I love that. Oh, get him into Drake and Josh next. Okay. We'll take, we'll take suggestions. She did start it with Soul Your Shorts. Love that. You were probably too young for that. I don't know if you ever watched it.

Yeah, I was. Then all that. And so yeah, Drake and Josh. By the way, a little bit of like a morbid fact for you. The first season of, uh, of all that he had like they had craig mack on alia uh tlc and like like like agent would be like oh what's this person doing oh they died oh they died oh yeah a lot of like watching wrestlemananias like oh man there's one person on the whole card a lot yeah but like these

people you know like the rappers or the you know hip hop artists is a lot like rmb they didn't die from like steroids or like those wrestlers are not yeah yeah plane crash Lisa left eye was a car accident, right? I think Craig Mac might have a diabetic complication, but just like a crazy thing, but sorry to bring the room down, orange soda rules, all that rules.

And it was called Drake and Josh, that's something whenever people make those jokes, I'm like, I don't even know if that is. Oh, it was my favorite show growing up, and it's just like, you know, continuation of the humor style from all that. I know Dan Schneider is a fucking monster and, you know, bad guy.

But the shows, I think even Drake and Josh say to this day, like, we hope people can still go back and enjoy that, despite what he was doing behind the scenes because they had a lot of good times on this show. Drake and Josh was, oh, it was my favorite show growing up. The judge in the Duquesne case, is she from the wire? I looked up on IMD because honestly, we mentioned Malcolm in the middle before. I was like, I knew it wasn't the mom from Malcolm in the middle, but I was like she kind of looks like her and she looked familiar to me. I don't know what I recognized her from, but I saw the wire on her page. Bob, I go, wait a minute.

Is that Ronnie? And Ronnie, Ronnie, Ronnie, all the McNulty fans out there know what I'm talking about. I go, that is, I looked up the wire, clicked on the actress's name. And I was like, she's in it. I love her. In The Wire, she's a good character, great actor. But, man, I was just so happy. And I'm thinking, like, once, what's the saying?

Once is a whatever, twice is a coincidence. We got another Wire actor here. I think we're legitimately a casting director. looking to really get it turning and I am even warring on this show if we're if we're going to keep going back into the wire because there are some of my favorite characters and actors ever on that but yeah shout out ronda perlman she's like the judge like they're in the wire but i hated her here she's so fair enough fair i'm fun to be guilty as a bitch of lanty they did do that another cool like tilting camera angle when he's found guilty and everything and then the the subtle

stifling of the laugh that Wilson Fisk does when he hears the result when he's like ha ha ha ha ha ha ha and then he just like gets serious and zeroes in that that was good dude that was good work by you bro good work on that thank you got to you got to watch the youtube for for the facial reactions I was really in in the character you know I felt it and I liked Daniel trying to get dirt on the governor from the governor's own B one she's they're like she's squeaky clean dude I don't know what they give yet the benefit or whatever trying to hook up Heather Glenn and Buck, and they're sitting next to each other.

He's talking to her about the fucking, oh, this is like the Royal Court. I was like, can you get any more fucking British Buck? She was melted right in front of her eyes there, Bob. She was, the accent, the suit, the jaw line. I get it with Buck, but like, come on, don't fall for the accent like that, Heather.

And honestly, I was kind of melting for him, too. I was like, damn, this guy's good. The way he was just pointing it all out. and then she kind of hit him, well, these are the people that are going to betray you you and he kind of played it off cool and reversed it on her

through the UNO reverse card. I was like, shit, this motherfucker I might be joining Kingpin's, you know, mayoral cabinet or whatever by the end of the season at this point. Then we get cursed and drinking, gets a drink sent over, it's spilled on a right away.

She's like, what the fuck? But then realizes it was, you know, on purpose spilled. There was a little message. You get back to your office. Mass there is Daredevil, just doing a Batman voice. I know it's sort of his Daredevil voice,

but in this scene in particular, I was like he's turning on that man here. So I didn't note that. But this is where he then retraces, which he's heard, and he beats some ass. And they do an aspect ratio change before he goes in the door, starts freeing all the prisoners. Him and swordsmen kind of go back to back. And swordsman starts fucking slicing and dicing as Matt's breaking bones, bouncing his sticks off people's heads.

The Bobby sticks are, is that what they call on the Bobby sticks? Something like that. The Billy Clubs. Billy Club. Bolly sticks, I called them. I was amazing. He's talking about. The Billy Clubs. And he's using the wire. He's doing fucking like scorpion style. Get

over here into the smoke. You know, people are throwing off into it. He uses smoke like Batman. There are a lot of similarities now. Bob, once you start putting it all together. Yeah. Then this is where Angela and Karen break in with the truck. They load up the truck with the prisoners. AFTV's

fucking open firing the entire time. and then Northern Star explodes like the powder keg it always was. And he killed them. He killed them all. Like the big ending to this episode. This fight scene was even better than the one in episode two in my eyes because he didn't only get there to him. He also got Swordsman.

And Swordsman is slowly developing into a pretty cool badass based on how he was introduced in Hawkeye and served his purpose great in Hawkeye, but he was way more comedic and like that, like red herring the whole season. And this, I'm like, I'm kind of fucking with swordsmen. And it's great casting. I like the actor that plays. Yeah.

I'm happy we have them. And we were happy we had him with Hawkeye and can never thought this guy would play a role in anything. I think they're probably like, oh, this guy. We have a dude. We have a dude we can use here. It's like you start seeing a guy. You can draft him. This is like a fourth, fifth round draft pick.

And you're like, oh, there's something here. Giants with Scataboo. That's how I go with this guy. I'm like, all right. And he's just, you know, kind of just calling it all. they're announcing the verdict and I was like, this guy is moving. My note was swordsman rules.

I just, I'm a fan. I'm ready to see him in a vigilante suit of some sort. I don't know how they're going to do it. I don't know what they're going to do for the MCU swordsman. If they want him, I don't think they want him as like corporate cane in his suit the whole time. So I think you got to give him something cool,

but I'm ready to see him start getting real violent with that sword too. Like let's see a beheading by the end of the season. Oh, my God. What about Powell? AFTV guy, sliced. I like that. They gave us that gory death last season. Kingpin gets one over on the cops.

Let's get one for the good guys this season. We've been wanting him to have that death. We said he's going to earn it. The heading is about as good at death as you can get in the MCU. I'm so mad. I was thinking earlier in the episode, I said, oh, because again, we were on the circle line tour. We went to the city and I saw Red Hook.

And I was like, ah, my favorite little powder keg. It literally exploded, Bob. that's a great call. It literally exploded. And this guy, Kingpin, Murdox, he just killed him all. This guy is a problem. Yeah.

Good episodes. This was the ending of episode three was what I was referencing when I said closest to got to like 75 for me. I would say the fight scene, I was probably hitting 75. I was like half chuffed up watching this thing. It was just everything I wanted out of it.

But now I know episode four here on out. This is where we're hopefully going to, if the reviews are true, go from really good to great. too great. I think great is approaching. And I still feel the same way we said last season. Everyone said this was a slow start.

Like, if this was the slow start, it's pretty fucking good. I'll take it. Again, I think we're going to need to have Charles in there to get that little extra at some point. Even if he's not the one in the scene, he's to be the one getting everything churning. By the way, we did say the word on this episode. I just looked it up that restricts the speed. A governor.

That's what I was thinking. Oh, look at that. Yeah. And the governor is trying to restrict. it mirafistic speed and expanding. There's levels to this. That was my Nixiron even diagram that I bought. All right.

Let's get into Invincible now. Season 4, episode 5, right? This week was episode 5, I believe. Starts off pretty much right where last week left off, where Omneman and Alan came back down, right, as Eve was about to deliver the big news to Mark. And we get, I love the opening scene. of Alan the alien showing his cat with two buttholes to Eif he's an adult but

holes fully grown yeah that was really good well well Nolan and Mark are talking it was just like we've all been at a friend's house where their parents got to talk to him about a serious conversation and then like you and your other friend are sitting on the stairs being like uh what do you want to talk about oh I wouldn't wish that feeling on my worst enemy that is yeah you don't ever fun because there's levels to because you sometimes get the one where it's like the little conversation that you know you're not then there's like the really bad conversation the yelling is bad and i've been there everyone's been there you're just you you want to crawl into your own skin and never come out you're just like wake me up when it's over it's one of the best things about being able to drive is that you can

just drive home or take your bike home like it is not good when you're basically stuck there because you can't get get a ride back to your house until that's all over with by the way before this episode at least last i had checked the previous episode the hell episode or your call was the lowest in the franchise of history. So we were coming into this on a lot. Again, I said that wasn't for me. It was a little too long. The Egypt thing, I'm still not sure what happened with all that with the mummy or

whatever. So we were coming in on, I want to say a low point for the series, but it was a low point in terms of just definition, unless it was a bunch of, what's their names, Game of Thrones fans trying to downvote the episode for some reason. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The review bombers. The review bombers.

I like, I still liked last week. I really did. Like the action I thought was so sick last. And I just liked again how it reestablished how strong invincible was. And you needed to do that before this week. The whole thing with Volcanica where it was like she was beating everyone. And he was like, oh, I'll fucking destroy this girl. What are you talking about?

He's like making conversation with them as he's just putting her off of the universe, you know? Yeah. That wasn't necessarily thing. And there were its moments. But that was something when I'd seen it like a couple days ago. Oh, wow. I'll remember to bring that up on the pod. And I think that the devil's going to play a big role in the finale.

of this, I would assume. When he tells Damien, like, Earth is, you know, ready for my arrival yet again. Oh. I think he's going to come down and do some kind of, I mean, at the end of this episode, it's like, is Invincible Dead?

They got to make a deal with the devil to bring him back somehow. He's going to wind up back in hell for what he's done. I was thinking about all that where I'm like, I don't think it was, and maybe I could be wrong, just a SideQuest episode. I think they'll bring that back. Bob's brain is percolating right now.

I kind of like it. Yeah. Invincible's got me percolating. This is a fucking great season so far. I like the stuff with Nolan trying to explain himself to Mark. It's a two-week trip. He's like, we got to leave tomorrow. Alan's going off to recruit more help.

And then the scene where he goes and apologizes to Debbie, and Debbie's not happy. But he, you know, gives a really long monologue, like a heartfelt speech. And she's like, are you fucking kidding me, bro? Like, you fucking left and knocked somebody else up. And now I'm taking care of the baby. And it was so well acted. I want to say voice acted if you want to say that. It was tremendous because, again, this isn't the kind of show where the animation is this toy story level.

And you could see all the facial reactions. You have to convey that in the performance more than anything. And these two, Sandra Owen and J.K. Simmons, my God, they're so good at this. I just put Mark's parents, we're cooking. Yeah, I don't know what else. Both of them had good lines. I was like, oh, my God, the emotion on this. And you're looking at the animation, it's doing what it can do.

But you're just like, they're going. through the screen and and then it's like it was like a not even a slow boil but whatever she had she was hitting him with some monster shots physically yeah hitting him and breaking her hand on his chest and then being like drops the f bombing you're like that that was a different version of the white caps episode with our boys and girls and sopranos but man it it impacted so much of a wallop so a plus job out of out of the actors there man that was incredible yeah We get Tech Jacket fighting the walking dread, which I found funny being Robert Kirkman is the creator of The Walking Dead, him for that little villain in there who just looked

like a big bang, obviously. And Ed's talking to her from the command station. Love the dynamic between Zoe and Ed. And Alan's there. Ed gives a sign off. He's like, yeah, my little girl could go off to war. Very different dynamic, but both this and then Oliver going off to war, we're like going off to college almost for like superheroes.

With one parent's like, ah, yeah, I'm happy to have an empty nest. And then there's like, I want one last dinner with you. I can't believe you're going off. It's going to be such a long journey. I don't know what kind of Zoe takes I had in the past, but I was loving it. I was, I was thinking the same thing. I don't remember a ton of Zoe in last season, but I know she was in last season. I remember her character, but like, I don't remember if we liked her or not.

Zoe rules, but she's probably going to die. That was my note. Like, it was, she was at such a good level. I was like, this isn't going to sustain. It's just. Well, it's also as soon as she gets up to the fight, you're reminded like, oh, what if they fucking, if they destroy the suit, she's toast. Like everyone else's powers and her suit has powers, but like, does it? You gotta watch YouTube for Rob's face right there.

That was the piece emoji like, yikes. Yikes is right. I like that Oliver was pissed. Omni Man didn't say hi and then he goes up there. He fucking gives it to him a little bit. That was good. Omni Man is like, he's written well because. he's redeemed and you're kind of root for them to to mend this relationship at some point,

but he's still kind of making wrong choices like left and right. And Mark has to give it to him where he's like, yeah, that fucking oh on his chest. Like what do you think he that's to represent? Like he's your son. Why don't you be a father? Yeah. So yeah, that he's a deeply flawed and he didn't just, you know, he's not, they didn't just bump the ratings up to 99 and 2K.

Can't do that with, uh, in, in this series. He can't do that in real life, obviously. So no, I like that as well. And honestly, we're going to get into the end of the show, which was awesome. And I do think the voice acting was out of this world. You want to talk with the low-key, like, kind of best emotional part of the episode is when the tailor's like, I dress heroes. You're not a hero, bro. You are a villain to everyone on this planet.

Love that scene. What a lot. Even just like them sitting on the roof and the lawn chairs and everything, like that was so good. And then what put the stamp on that scene, the exclamation mark, Zomni. man flying away and him oh my god like he was terrified like that that performance as well of the whole time he's holding holding back you know he's he's pretending that everything's okay but in the back of his mind he's like i'm fucking know if this guy's gonna kill me right now like that was great stuff this is a really good episode it was it was a fantastic episode it's you know everyone's you know everyone remembers when they set up to the bully those like five

minutes when you're standing up to the bull your waiting and then standing up it's the longest like time of your life probably right yeah he's like he's so happy i didn't end up like a piece of brain matter essentially right yeah i start oh yeah and then venture heads out pretty quickly conquest attacks almost kills oliver the way he's squeezing his head the great colleague w w e was to do that He squeezes his head till his eyes start bleeding. Omni Man jumps in with the fucking classic. Never touch my son again. Never talk to me or my son.

Mark fucks up conquest for the first half of the fight. He's kind of ripping into, I killed you, beating into him. Eventually, Oliver needs to go to a planet to breathe. And then the best visual of the episode for me is conquest coming from behind him, like a Star Destroyer comes out of hyperspace, goes after him. they get into a fight on the planet that ends with Mark squeezing the life out of him, strangling him, while Conquest punched a hole in his chest and took his intestines out like they were like a clown taking a ribbon out of his mouth.

The entire time he's just ripping him out and ripping him out. The life drains out of his eyes. Mark falls over. I saw a ton of tweets about people so happy about how this was adapted. So I assume it was, it had to be a major major. part of the comics obviously just holy fuck that was my note absolute holy fuck the venture left them you know now oliver and omnium are still on the planet they discovered mark and conquest there but ventures off and uh allen and uh tech jacket or empire strikes backed onto chip

well said bob well said their empire strike back that's perfect that battle was like the final battle from endgame when you're like, oh, they snapped everyone back. Boom, boom. And it just starts. And you're like, holy shit, we're in the middle. I thought it was going to be a buildup and it was going to take the rest of the episode to get that. Maybe we start. And I did appreciate.

I always appreciate. I've learned to realize I do appreciate those fights that really do come out of nowhere. I love the line where they're like, what's the Wilter mite's weakness. It's like their ego, right? That's what the alien says. That was a great line. the when he's pulling out all the the guts of mark it reminded me our boy chaps used to say when talking about like when a woman's given birth or C-sections or whatever they're interds he used to call it inards oh yeah and i was like and i'm watching like these are marks interds these are his entrails for sure i did not appreciate that and tell me what you think on this here i have a take you know

who's you want to talk about hot seats you know who's on the hot seat right now if mark survives this which you figure he's going to or he has to be brought back to life by Damien by saying himself. Who's on the hot seat? Cecil, because he's going to have to explain that they kept the fucking conquest alive.

What were you doing, Cecil? This guy. Yeah. I was this, there was a, it was one of the shows we did recently where like, I know this person survives,

but I'm not, and then for a brief moment, I didn't think they were going to survive. And it wasn't, it wasn't Daredevil. What was the previous thing we did where, someone was going to survive night of the seven kingdoms yes the whole get up scene right

right yeah it's don't can die here that was this is it is it do they just stop doing the invincible screen and is oliver someone's got to do that someone's got to do invincible falls over get up get up get up yeah i i do not i do not like conquest i do not like him as a person as a character but man that is a hell of a character and the whole like he's he's still kind of the washed version of the whole species right now he's like heartless which makes him probably a better fighter

but I don't know man I'm sure the people that Jeffrey Dean Morgan the voice I'm happy to hear the people that read the books loved it because I thought it was awesome and I'm telling you right now Bob I'll do respect to Daredevil this got up didn't stay there it got up to 95 miles per hour Because I'm, and I don't even know if we can even hit this level again,

because both the fights against this guy were, remember we were swooning last time they fought. We swooned over that. And this is episode five, dude. We have six, seven, and eight to five. It's not like this was even the penultimate episode. It's like, okay, it's episode five and Mark's fucking dead. So what is happening in the rest of this season, dude?

And he doesn't even know about his unborn child. Oh, he brought up. Eve didn't even get to tell him that. Like that was, she was like, I'll tell you when you get back. Just don't die. And then he goes off and fucking die. Decided to die.

Just decided to die. I can't believe it. I, he, when he brought up Eve, too, I thought we were going to get like Mark, just straight Anakin style. Thought it was Biduku head slice off.

And it was not bad. I'll tell you, it was not that. He won a few rounds in there, including like, I don't know, it might be a draw. It's all said and done.

And it's also like, all right, Mark's, we know Mark's going to come back. He's not dead. I don't know how they're going to bring him back. He'll be back at some point. Conquest is probably not that either, right? Like, he seemed dead when the life got choked out of his eyes. We've killed him twice now. So would we go back to that?

But like, if Mark's not dead and his intestines all got ripped out, conquest is probably not dead from a fucking sleeper hold, right? And so then this is the question. Does Omni Man end it? Or are we just going to say, some people I think are saying, oh, he's done. It's over. He's got this game,

game over for him. But then there's people like us who don't know. It might be. So I, I thought, I thought he was gone the first time, right? Omni Man should immediately as he walks up on that, sees him either dead or pay.

He should just be like, all right, let's fucking give you a few more ground and pound shots, super necessary Jorge Mazidol style and just fucking make sure. Let's hit the double tap, as they say, I was going to go back to me, myself,

and Irene, when he takes the cow's nose. Yeah. Yeah. Literally just fire into him on the side of the road like that. Like we need that right now. If it's laser beams out of your eyes instead of bullets, we need that still. If you want to punt his head, punt his head.

And it goes to like the moon of the planet. That would be cool too. Again, conquest, cool character to watch. Bad person. Do not like. A danger to us all. We're riders. It feels like that's where Rico's getting.

People are like, Rico, I love your content. You're a bad person. I'm like, guys, guys are just killing, killing our country. I'm not saying he's our conquest. I'm not saying that. We're right. No. No, we rot.

Subscribe to men of honor simply to support Rico and his next. Conquest only talks about. I know. Conquest actually tries to kill you. You know, he doesn't bring up like dead relatives and stuff. Very much, yeah,

no, I don't think Conquest would do that. Are you saying Conquest wouldn't do that? No, it's over the line. Conquest, you would never. No.

Listen, we rot. We rocked. He right. But we ride. We rocked. What did he say about Eve? He's like, I want to, like, kill your girlfriend again or he could taste her blood or something. Like, he had, he had some.

Yeah, I didn't like that. I didn't like to want about it. Unnecessary. Don't bring that up. But he wouldn't have said anything about dead relatives. He wouldn't have been. And think about this to Mark, kind of a father of one, you know? It's like you're doing that to a guy who was about to become a father, even worse.

If he had said that and he knew about the baby, I think we might have seen Anakin come out. Yeah. Or I guess Vader at this point. He's still Anakin. At some point, are we getting Vader by the end of the season? Because I'm starting to get it.

I'm kind of getting Anakin, like, excited about Anakin. If we get Vader-Mork by the end of the season, I think it'll be like we get Vader in Revenge of the Sith, how it's like the ending is the unveiling, but we don't really get him, get him. And honestly, the only problem with that is, I think if we're getting that, I think our girl is going Padmey style. We've talked about this.

I'm going to talk about it. Listen, listen, listen, we've got a couple more weeks. Let's get that devil energy out of our head and let's just focus on getting marked back. And next week, you know, we'll go back to thinking about this. But from now, it's out of my mind. You see you guys next week. Still got Viltramites just flying around. Tons of them, too.

Like way too many. Way too many philtramites. Are we still recruiting for the war, by the way? I felt like we were on the recruiting path. I agree. It was like we need to recruit just tech jacket, though. Like was that Alan's only assignment was recruiting one person? One.

And not even really the person. It's more the suit you're recruiting. Like. Yeah. And like also, can we get, can we get Ed in the command tower? Like given some help from the team? Like just that can we, we could use an assistant coach right now. And let's be honest, he's a vibes guy, too.

He's just as much a vibes guy as he is. Bobby Moornehan does the voice. I love that guy. Is he Bobby Moynihan? Yeah. I love Bobby Moynihan. I'm a huge. I know.

He's great. This just made my day. No wonder I like this guy so much. I can't put my finger on it. When I told eight, when H.A. found out Keenan was on Saturday Live. His head almost exploded. He's been grinding at this game since he was that age to this age.

Basically. Yeah, AJ has 20 years worth of Tinen sketches to get through. Oh, man. Good episode. We've got two episodes of Daredevil, one episode of Invincible in the Can Recaps. Next week we're back, and it's not just these two shows either. I saw this tweet come across our timeline, Clem. And I said, oh, strap in.

Next week on Tuesday, we've got Daredevil Born Again, episode four. then we've got the Boys and Invincible April 8th on Wednesday. So the Boys is also two episodes. It's Daredevil episode four, Invincible Episode 6, The Boys episodes 1 and 2. So next week is a giant-sized special edition. Is that what we're going to go with? Giant-sized very special. I'm going to let you just go how you feel.

Well, I guess we don't know what it's going to be. Yeah, I'll probably forget that exact word. by next week. Yeah. And honestly, it depends on the episodes were. If the episodes were all 95 miles per hour, honestly, I'm happy this episode happened this week for a municipal. I don't think it could have handled if they even go close to 95 again. If they're going 85 next week, I already expect Daredevil to get closer to the pedal to the actual metal. And then I'm dealing with two boys to start the final season. I don't know what that's going to bring. Bob, I am, you know what this is. This is probably like if I had ordered the appetizer virus wheel and not known what it was and then it just got

placed like I'm happy I don't know where to start it's baseball season too so I'm like in met's world and I got the kids it's a lot of stuff going on we're in it together buckle up everybody we're in this together we got this are we giving some next week we're going to be attacked like the fucking viltramites like we're going to be halfway through our journey and we just get hit with something so we'll see you guys then God bless. All right. See you then.

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