My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 499.1 - MAY THE 4TH WITH TOT STAR WARS
Episode Date: May 4, 2026Robbie is joined by Finn, Stone, Robbie T, and Matty Ice from the ToT Star Wars podcast to talk about their show, the state of Star Wars (and Lego Star Wars), #TheMandalorianAndGrogu, #MaulShadowLord,... and more! Subscribe to ToT Star Wars: https://www.youtube.com/@thisorthatstarwars **************************************** My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike! Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement
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All right, welcome back to My Mom's Basement.
It is Robbie Fox here with the TOT Star Wars Boys.
I'm happy to have them all in studio, in office.
This feels huge.
Massive.
I feel like I got a huge band right now altogether.
Like, I feel like, if I met you guys individually,
be like, oh, what's up, guys?
But all together, it's like the Beatles are in here.
Wow.
That's a tough cheese.
That's a nice cop.
Which one am I?
Uh, John.
I think that's something that I can now take to my mom and be like,
someone said this about us, so please leave me alone.
I think six-month grace period for that.
Yeah.
I think that should give us some freedom.
So we've got Finn, we've got Stone, we've got Robbie T, we've got Maddie Ice.
And I've known you guys for a few months now, I want to say, for three years now.
It was like years ago.
Maybe even five months.
I had seen your guys clips on Instagram, and we actually got a guy, shout at Sam Goldfinger in the office here,
who had sent me some of your stuff and was like, you guys, have you seen these guys?
And my four you page is always Legos.
So I was like, yeah, I'm familiar.
man. You guys hit me up and said, do you want to do the pod? And I clicked on your page. I saw
that one of Liam Gallagher's sons, Gene followed you. And I was like, oh, actually, I think it was
Lenin that follows you. So I was like, oh shit, these guys must be fucking cool. I got to do the pod.
We did a pod about Disney and Star Wars. We screamed at each other for 30 minutes, and we've been
boys ever since. Yeah. I told you guys, by the one paying that guy that thousand dollars for the
fall was worth it. I knew that was going to be worth it. We did two episodes together now. And
Those that don't know, your podcast mostly is Lego Star Wars specifically,
which I think is impressive that you guys have built the following that you've built.
You have 500 patrons on Patreon.
You've built this huge community over what people would think is a pretty niche topic.
So I want to start there.
What made you realize you could do a Lego Star Wars show?
Who realized that first?
So basically, when we started, I thought it was some creative, genius idea to call it an experience instead of a podcast
so we could test out everything possible.
The Jimmy Hendricks experience.
It's a huge builds up.
No one stock.
So it's like if we call it an experience,
we can literally do anything
and then we can find out what hits.
And then we did it for a certain period of time.
And then I was like,
threw Lego into the mix.
And then it was like, wait.
So it was just a regular podcast about anything first?
No, Star Wars.
Just Star Wars.
We were doing like theory videos and all this stuff.
I've seen some of the old ones.
Like our shorts would be thin, right?
Was it just a tough watch?
Was it just you guys at first?
It was these to do in the theory.
It was a basketball podcast.
that turned into a Star Wars podcast that then I lived with Rob in college.
I said, you have to do this with me.
He said, we should do this.
And he was boys with Stone.
He said, you should do.
Yeah, I found out that he was doing a Star Wars podcast.
And I go, dude, I know way more about Star Wars than you.
Why am I not on this thing?
We're on this now.
And then, yeah, then we're all, we go.
We do have something special if you want to.
We have the text.
The text.
Oh, the text is the Jedi.
The text.
The text.
The Secret Jedi text.
The Secret.
The Secret.
That's great.
The Sacred Jedi text.
Okay.
This was a text right before me and Rob moved into
We were friends for about four months.
We were arguing about he was trying to claim to me over text that the Sith and the
Jedi were the same or that they were not the same.
I said, I'm a certain point of you.
You moved in together.
You lived together in college.
Did you just go to college together?
We didn't meet each other until senior year of college.
Really?
Yeah.
And then first year of post grad we moved in with you.
And when you're in college, are you as into Lego as you are right now?
100%.
Oh, yeah.
Well, that's what happened.
Are your dorms filled with Lego and shit?
I was the Pledgemaster of my fraternity and I would make them buy me Lego sets.
That was the hate.
That was part of it.
We had a mutual buddy connect me and Rob.
We had had a class together junior year.
And we cheated on all these accounting tests together.
I remember hitting him up like December 5th.
Being like, yo, final's coming up.
You think we can figure this out?
And he goes, drop it.
And I go, okay, cool.
Didn't even know him.
So we both dropped it.
The next year later, a mutual friend of ours connected us.
And we went to the bar.
I went to Rob's house after I'm looking around his room,
we're smoking bong.
And I go, that sequel set up there?
He's a sequel set up there?
And he happened to have the resistance Ywe.
Huge sequel.
About that.
Give to three by stone, by the way.
So, you know, you get an opportunity to pick fun at someone you don't know.
And we kind of, and he gave it back to me.
And I was like, okay, cool.
So that actually was the genesis of our entire friendship was me being like,
Seagles guy with that thing.
And you and Maddie, you guys are cousins.
Yeah.
Unfortunately, yeah.
Blood related.
Yeah.
Unfortunately, yeah.
His mother is my godmother.
My mother's got mother.
Yeah.
Me and Finn had a lot of growing up Lego trips.
Like we'd go to New York, Lego store, whatever it is.
And then.
Jersey guys, by the way.
My sophomore year of college, I went to South Carolina for one year.
And I just didn't really do much.
And so we were literally just talking on the phone.
We literally watched Mandalorian on FaceTime, like my first time, like two years after it came out.
Oh, wow.
Like, I didn't, wasn't watching.
Like, I was out.
You close yourself off from the force.
Yeah.
And then it somehow turned into us doing a Star Wars pod.
And I was like, all right, here we go.
But it was NBA first.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was DOT Hoops.
It was me.
It was me.
It was me being mid at basketball thinking I was good at basketball, making basketball,
making basketball tic-ttox for my personal TikTok.
And then I begged Matt, I was like, please, bro, please come on camera.
We started doing some.
Like five moves in my bag, five moves you need in your bag.
Like I was got you guys.
Are you a Knicks guy?
Nets, unfortunately.
Just, I couldn't, I could never switch.
I grew up a Nets fan.
My mom worked at the Azzod Center.
As soon as they left and went to Newark, I was like, fuck them.
So that was the jobs away from my mom.
That was the safe break where you either go, fuck you for leaving or I'm going to ride super hard.
But I did kind of a weird break because I left before they left New Jersey.
Before they went to Brooklyn, when they went to Newark.
To Prudential Center.
Yeah, yeah.
So we started making those videos and Rob texted me, which again, we have the text, which is him saying.
Yeah, what's the text?
What's the data on that receipts, guys?
Yeah, let's get a receipt.
And then you'll have to text this to me.
I'll put it in a post.
Yeah, we'll put a little picture.
It was just a text argument we were having that he then goes, you know, maybe we should put a camera on this.
What did I say?
We were dealing with absolutes.
And the funniest thing is Finn's answer to whatever we were arguing about is the answer that I hate the most.
It's Star Wars rhymes.
Oh, it rhymes is like poetry?
Yeah.
It's his favorite thing to say.
It's a good cop out.
Anything you get stuck on.
Listen, I'm a Batman fan.
Batman fans.
We just say, yeah, he's Batman.
It's kind of just a cop out for anything.
He had prep time.
Yeah.
Oh, he prepared for that.
How do you get back to Gotham and Dark Night Rise?
He's Batman.
He's Batman.
Whatever.
But yeah, literally Finn was like, the new Republic,
we were talking about Jedi's being polar,
or Jedi and Sith being polar opposites.
And he goes, are they though?
And then I go, we might the hearted message.
We might need to make a Star Wars podcast and deal with these
intricate questions.
By the way,
for God,
I'll do that with you.
I'm 100%
we'll set it up
in the new crib.
I've never even
this is great.
I've never even
heard of a Star Wars podcast.
He thought nobody's ever
talking about Star Wars online.
I thought it was like the best idea ever.
Well, no,
then he found one
and changed it's
to Star Wars experience,
not the podcast.
We're like,
no one's doing it.
Like,
no one's doing it like
how we're going to do it.
Yeah.
Like make it cool and all that stuff.
Yeah.
I don't even know how we started
doing the Lego though.
Like we had one clip.
I was making Lego shorts on the channel.
We started doing a Lego.
How do you start doing a Lego then?
We have an interesting dynamic where we each kind of cover specific bases.
So like in that case, Rob goes, hey, I think it'd be cool if we made a podcast.
And four texts later, he goes, I don't know.
We might run out of topics, bro.
Maybe.
So there's a cynical side, positive side, creative side, beautiful workhorse side.
And it all comes together in like a nice way.
Like the needle.
Even before the podcast was created, bro was tweaking going, ah, might run out of topics.
I don't know.
Well, I think one of the most impressive things.
things about your podcast is that you don't run out of topics.
Like, and I don't know if it's a struggle for you guys, but so I, I, like, wasn't listening
to the podcast.
I was seeing all the clips.
And then when I did the podcast with you guys, I was like, these guys are fucking hysterical.
The stuff that you guys scream at each other over.
And at the top of your lungs, like, it's the peak of tension, and it's over fucking
greebling on the side of an extra.
This is a unique opportunity to, can I?
We.
Seard's news.
Really.
Looking you in the eyes, really care.
So much.
I could tell.
Like, seriously.
And you guys constantly, like, you've been doing videos for years now.
For years.
You have, how many a week?
Two weeks?
By the week.
Monday Thursday.
Plus Patreon episodes.
And it's all Lego Star Wars.
You have not run out of shit to talk about with Lego Star Wars.
This is with full-time jobs.
We're putting out two episodes a week, one short a day.
We're dying trying to do this.
And the only source of any friction is, what can we talk about today?
Just trying to figure out what could be the good.
Because you're right, it is.
I mean, you have good categories, too.
You have the underrated, overrated, you have the copper drop, which I guess you're kind of the same.
It goes back and forth.
Rating a full year of Lego Star Wars.
That is from the Barstool model.
A lot of our...
What you guys are doing is very similar to like the old rundown, where they would all be over Zoom, screaming at each other over the topics of the day, replace the topics with Lego Star Wars.
I will say, it's modeled pretty intensely after...
I mean, there's a common common where it's like, you...
We'll get comments all the time where it's like bar stool of Lego question work.
And I think that's accurate.
Because it's built, like I was really a big follower in the early 2000, or I guess
early 2000s.
Yeah, I was one.
But the mid-2000s like on whether it was still scenes, bars office moved in 2016 and stuff like that.
Yeah.
A lot of that DNA as crazy is really baked into this from the building perspective.
So yeah, it was more of how can we do this?
instead of this.
Yeah.
Or that.
And I think you've done it really well.
Like, did you guys think you would get to the level this quickly where you have 500 people on Patreon?
Is also the Discord?
Is that a huge part of it for you guys where like, did the, making the Discord?
Oh, yeah.
That was like just a random idea because none of us had ever used Discord before besides Stone.
Besides Stone.
I was in a Naruto Discord.
I'm a pretty high-ranked Shinobi.
I was in it when it had 10,000 members and it has 4 million members in it now.
Oh, my God.
So I built that server from the server.
ground up. Wow. There's 6,000 people
in there and it's great. I'm like a
bunch of fans advice too, by the way, though.
A bunch of fans did hop on VC with me in the Discord.
They gave me so much advice, like what to do with
the Discord server. A lot of suggestions,
you know, like the fans are so good at like. Well,
that's the best part about it is that it's like
become self-sufficient. Like we don't
do anything. Like we don't put much
effort now into it. It's like run
by the community now. Which is big.
Because like for me, it's still so tough
for me to navigate. Maybe I'm just like an
unkin that way. Like Discord to me is all
over the place.
But in the,
you click in any tab,
there's messages from 30 minutes ago,
10 minutes ago,
five minutes ago,
whatever it is.
Like,
it's awesome.
I mean,
the biggest Lego Star Wars
Discord they had before
is like eight years old now,
and we already passed them
members of a year.
Oh, you guys are the biggest
Lego Star Wars Discord out there.
Yeah,
we passed them in under a year.
We passed them.
I was monitored every day.
Like,
we're passing.
The idea from a business perspective
if any of you are virgins
was to,
they're out there,
was to try and build
more of a universe
than a TikTok clip.
Yeah.
So that if you're,
involved in, wow, this year at work, you're not even thinking about Legos.
God, this guy, Rob, he actually sucks because he does in real life.
And if you are more ingrained in, wow, I'm seeing this guy write stuff that's stupid,
seeing this guy say stuff that's stupid, I'm seeing, it's everywhere.
Yeah.
You know, so it's more of like a, the discord is supposed to be like a kind of like a little world for people.
And not to be a little bit savvy, but it's an escape for people.
I really think that some people in there have become more comfortable talking about Star Wars,
which was the whole goal to start in the podcast.
to kind of like normalize that it's okay to like this.
It's okay to be cool about this.
I think it makes people nostalgic too.
For me, I just didn't know there was a community of people talking about,
how nice today.
Oh, six Lego Star Wars.
Oh, so awesome.
They're awesome.
They're all awesome.
It's insane.
But it's like looking back, oh, my God, I had that set as a kid.
Oh, my God, I had it.
And it's brought me back to the level where I'm like, yeah, this is fun.
I want to fucking buy this stuff.
Shout out to the boys.
Brought me a new set from the Mandalorian and Grogo today.
I'm like, yeah, I get to go home and build this tonight.
That's going to be awesome.
I might break it down and build it a second time.
See, that's something that a build guy would do and a play guy would not do with respect.
Yeah, I'm not a play guy.
I know that we have play guys in the podcast.
I'm not an interior guy really either, you know.
Give me that UCS-MLA and Falcon.
I'll put it on the shelf and look at it for life.
Yes, exactly.
This is perfect.
I thought about this randomly, literally at a hotel outside, Matthew.
With the interior exterior thing, it might be, I like the mystery box, not to be JJ Abrams.
But there's something in there that I got to look for.
That could be the angle that we've never talked.
about. Maybe it's like, I want something that's more
than meets the eye. You're just a gambler at heart?
I don't know if that's a camera. If you're a my mom's basement
fan, you're listening and you have no idea what we're talking
specifically Finn loves
when a ship, when a Lego ship, when something like
this has an interior with play
features. Put figures in there.
Yeah. And a lot of people, I
would say, don't care about that kind of stuff.
Where if the ship looks like the ship from the outside,
they're putting it on a shelf, never touching it again.
All of you out there. Let it collect dust.
Especially when you get... I'll be
playing with my sail barge in my bathtub. I'll tell you what I have
One, like, real set in my apartment now.
It's the Jaws set.
My fiance's got that for me.
I loved it.
But I'm, like, OCD with the dust now.
I'm, like, taking it off the shelf every now and then I'm looking at it.
She's like, you're looking for dust again?
Like, yeah, I'm just checking.
I just went and cleaned my entire room, like, all the shelves, everything.
I'm like, how is there this much dust on it?
They make vacuums.
They make, like, brick vacuums.
For sure.
We should reach out to and be like, yo, can we just, like, get a couple of those brick vacuum?
Yeah, I bought an air purifier to try to try to help with dust, and it just didn't do anything.
Performative air purifier.
Dude, there was a clip.
I don't know if it was on a normal episode or a Patreon episode,
but you were talking about, you're like,
yeah,
my rooms getting to the point where I don't know if I could bring a girl back here
because, like,
she can't get on my bed without knocking a set off.
And I thought that was the funniest, like, most seriously set to line.
His death star was right there.
His death star was right there.
My desk star was on,
like, I bought like a shelf behind my bag.
So I'm like,
you got to come with creative way.
My rule is buy the set,
figure out how you're going to display it afterward.
Because a lot of people are like,
oh,
I'm not going to buy this.
I have nowhere to put it.
It's like, that's an after-you-buy issue.
Future you issue.
Exactly.
When I brought the Death Star, I had zero spot to put it,
and that's the biggest Lego Star Wars set ever.
So, like, I threw it be on my bed mantle,
and I'm like, if just the thought of having a girl over,
it would never happen.
How graphic can we get on here?
Can I get graphic on here?
Oh, yeah.
So, like, I can throw a graphic on there?
If you have his, no, I mean, can I get graphic?
Oh, can you get graphic?
Of course.
If you're looking at Rob's bed, and it's a big, long bed,
and there's a little bit of a top,
and you have the UCS Death Star right here.
So say, that's a power bottom.
He's laying on the ground, and someone's on top, maybe this way.
Yep.
You're getting to not only look at the Death Star, but you're really intricately like.
You know what?
The security area is actually pretty nice.
She's just riding him.
She's like, yo, what?
Where the, what's the X-Q?
This should have been a full, half-grade ball.
Like, is this a scam?
Throg was never in the Death Star?
Throd was never in the Death Star?
Is this the scale right now?
Yeah.
Is there a mini-kitten here?
Didn't they put a mini-key in here?
they put a mini-kitties?
So you do have one of those moments
where he's looking at his room
and it was never
away games.
So yeah,
now you're away games
only.
Yeah, it's away games.
He has no games.
He has no FAAs.
What are we talking about here?
It's away games only,
but we're a healthy scratch.
We're a healthy scratches a lot.
Gene's shorts, legs crossed.
You think this guy has any game?
But if you think about
in theory,
to bring a girl back
to that caliber of display,
again,
I might find the lucky one who thinks
it's cool,
but it is really out there,
especially all of our setups.
It's just the fact
that it's directly
in your bedroom.
But mine's cool because I have the guitars
spread in between them.
So she may be like, oh.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, these are little...
You're an artist.
Wow, I love your Lego around.
You're such an artist.
Have you guys moved with Lego before?
Oh, like, four times.
Already I'm like, I don't even have that many sets
and I'm like how I'm going to do this.
Big, big cardboard boxes, like as big as you can get.
And then you get like a bubble wrap or something like that.
Like I did like the industrial like package wrap
that one you put around skids.
And did that...
And disasters or no?
No.
Well, some of them,
Some pieces broke up, but it's rap.
So it stays in.
And then I put them all in this big box.
Big boxes, like eight huge, the biggest ones you can get at Home Depot.
I also love, like, there's many episodes where one of you guys just takes a set and throws it at a wall.
I think the last time we did an episode, Finn threw a set at a wall.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I threw my.
I threw the UCS sail barge at the wall.
I saw that.
He started by doing the cell bars because somebody said, no balls in the trap.
No, they donated $300.
No, they donated $300.
They were like, smash a set.
And he didn't.
That's like your old concept, though.
That's like your favorite set.
So yeah, someone, someone was like, what's the price?
So I have like this, everyone hates the buildable Chewbacca for some reason.
It's like one of my grails.
I think it's kind of cool.
And someone was like, what would it take?
How much would I have to pay you to throw it at the ground?
And I'm like, you would probably have to pay me $500.
And then he donates $300.
So then they're like, Rob, you have to do it.
And I said, I'm like, I said 500.
Three times worth the value of that, by the way.
Three times worth, this is Mr. New York.
I would have altered.
Robbie New York.
That's ridiculous.
And so then,
so then Stone to be like,
I'm not going to let this guy down.
I didn't even say,
$300.
He runs to his room.
I just say,
I'm like,
I go to the bathroom real quick.
I just run.
I just come back in and I go,
this is for you,
buddy.
You're a fucking pussy.
I'm like talking to a donating.
I'm like,
you're my goat.
This is for you,
buddy.
You're my goat.
The most satisfying smash.
It's so satisfying.
Do the pieces ever actually break?
I've had that happened once.
Okay.
It was on the dark millennium falcon.
When I smashed that on the wall.
That was a good smash.
Very replaceable piece, thank you.
That was a great smash.
So then also, too, what happened after that,
after Stone threw the barge at the wall,
then our chat started flooding with Rob's a bitch, basically.
Which, yeah.
And it got to my head, and it got to my head,
and out of pure rage, I run over and grab the Chewbacca and just throw it.
And you smashed it anyway.
But the issue was, I didn't even get it on camera.
It was a bad time.
I wasn't standing in a spot that was even on the shot.
So I'd even get it for the viewers.
I literally just smashed it, and they're like,
Rob, we didn't even see it.
Some people say performative smash.
You guys need a Lego smash noise, like the Stone Cold theme, you know, when the glass breaks.
Oh, yeah.
Like, TOT should have a Lego shadow.
We're about a theme.
Like a Starzzer goes, p-p-p-p-p, like the pieces of building like, pop-pub.
We're about it.
We're about it.
We're about it.
Yeah, that's what we're going to do.
We're just so sick of.
Because it's tinier.
Yeah, we try not to complain about Lego.
I feel like a lot of people, like, complain a little too much about stuff.
Like the land members, the people that are sponsored by Lego.
Should we take this opportunity to blast them?
Maybe, yeah, yeah.
Let me just say this.
We don't want to go too far off the rail.
Yeah, you don't go too far off the rail, but just to branch off that,
if you're receiving a product that's poor and you're telling people who are spending money on it,
that it's positive.
You're a big-time pussy.
Big-time pussy.
Someone who was like a big, like, one of the biggest people in the space.
Careful here.
Who did a bad review about one of the sets that came out relatively recently, and it was like groundbreaking.
People were like holding it.
Like, not it.
We were like, we were watching.
We did a stream and watched it.
Would it reveal it if you said what the, what the set was?
Yeah, the turbo tank that came out.
Hey, would this reveal, would you think?
Oh, yeah, it would you think?
It's the turbo tank guy.
I got to be honest.
Every tank.
I don't know where my ground vehicles.
Is that it?
That might be something.
There might be something to that.
Do you like the ATTEs?
No, I don't love those either.
ATATs?
I do love it.
You're an empire.
An ATAT kind of has just a different like a hole to it where you're like, you know, my dad probably like that.
That's cool.
What about the UTAE?
You like those?
Not really.
No.
That's treads?
It's like the one from, I think it's the one from, I think it's a lot.
Yeah.
Where are you guys with, so I'm into Mall Shadow Lord right now.
I think everyone is, right?
But I, weirdly, I was a good age for it.
I'm 27 now.
I'm about to turn 28.
I wasn't into the Clone Wars at the start.
I saw the movie.
I didn't love the movie.
And in my little kid brain, I was like,
I don't accept that Anakin had a Padawan that never got brought up again.
Yeah.
And then they bring them all back and I'm like, well, that's ridiculous too.
And then it took me years later to be like, oh, wait.
Like, that's exactly what I love and start.
Like the world building the lore of the Clone Wars and stuff.
Did you get the Legosettes at that time or no?
Because I think the Ligosets at that helped me.
I really like it.
What's the fucking, the Twilight?
Oh, yeah.
I had the Twilight.
Awesome set.
And it came with the mini fucking Rodda.
Awesome.
That was the only clone wars.
Actually, I had the spider droid that came with Fox.
Fox.
That's another great set.
Those are the only two Clone Wars I had.
Robbie Fox with Fox.
Rob's got the variant.
Only ones, I did not have the variant.
I found out about that recently.
No way.
But like, I would consider myself an eight out of ten Star Wars animated fan, where I can't say
that I'm the most diehard.
I know everything, but I really do enjoy it.
Matt, I like your guy.
You guys out of ten out of ten?
Any of you guys?
Yeah.
I prefer animated Star Wars to live action almost.
Yeah.
We had a big intense debate about this, yeah.
I don't.
My favorite lightaber fight in all of Star Wars is Palpatine versus Darth Mall and Savagio Press.
I mean, a great one.
But like, you're taking that over Luke and Vader and Empire?
Yes.
I honestly, you could maybe as a fight alone.
That's my two, though.
Yeah, all right.
That's my two.
Or maybe it's Anakin versus Obi-Ombi won Mustafa, just because that's what I grew up with.
Yeah.
I mean, as a fight alone, I think I would take a lot of animated fights over anything in the O.
What?
Just because they're like, they're not, I mean, like, you said that on camera, by the way, with a microphone.
I like the animated fights.
For me, a lot of them don't have, like, the emotion, obviously, because it's just, it's saber's flying.
That's the difference.
It's usually typically animated.
When I'm a goody died, I was pretty emotional.
Yeah, but, like, you're emotional just because you're like, oh, my heart.
But then you're fine, like a minute after.
I cried when I'm a goody died, and I, you can play that clip right now, and I'll probably still cry.
Yeah.
He's in their Rylop off.
Last stand with his lightsaber.
DeFing his fight.
Many droid bull up to sex scene.
And his form is so pretty.
Yeah, and then he gets bowed down.
But then you see the supplies come in and all the starving people of Rala.
I take it back right.
Yeah, he saves so many people.
I'm like, damn, man.
It's not even like a lightsaber on lightaber fight.
That's just him trying to take down droids.
It's integrity.
It's Jedi integrity.
I mean, we've been talking about this a lot recently with Mall,
Mal Obi-Wan animated in Rebels.
That's another emotional life.
That one's great.
And I love that super samurai, like a one-moves slice him.
Like, that's awesome.
Just I can't believe that you would take...
If you could, going forward, only have animated or live action.
Live action.
No fucking.
Let's see how these next two movies are.
I feel like live action is such a higher ceiling.
Yes, there's a higher ceiling, but it's a lot easier.
It's a lower floor.
I still disagree with that.
If they went all in on the animated stuff, like all, all in, like the Miles Morales stuff,
how they did that with that.
Well, that's what they're doing with Mall right now.
This mall, the way Mall's animated, I think, looks better than any other Star Wars animation show.
I love it.
I hope they stick with that.
I also think if they stick the landing on this,
it will be my favorite.
Me too.
I just said that.
Every watched it three times already.
Every episode three times.
It makes more sense.
Every time you watch it, it makes more sense, too.
Like any show.
The little gaps get filled.
They said in an interview that they were trying,
back when they originally did Clomor's,
the actual TV show, not the movie,
they were really actually pushing the ball
with animation, which is cool.
Yeah.
And it kind of felt, this is what Dave said,
again, paraphrasing.
Kind of felt like they were, like,
falling behind doing that.
Colomer Seat 7 was awesome,
and he said they,
It felt like they pushed it a little bit.
But with Mall, it's all oil paintings.
It's all specific personal artists.
There's no computer generated.
Not as many computer generated is.
And he said, we're actually intent trying to push animation forward with this,
which we have not done since Home Wars, which I think is dope.
And since Spider-Verse, I feel like we've seen a few things try to hit the Spider-Burst style.
Mitchell's Versus machines, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Mutant Mayhem.
It feels like, oh, they're trying to do Spider-Verse.
This feels different enough where they're still doing the brushstrokes and stuff.
It doesn't feel like a rip-off of that.
So it's more realistic, I feel like.
It's like that hyper-reelistic.
Dude, in the last episode where the cops are looking for mall
and they have the flashlights in there.
Real shot, by the way.
It looks so fucking good.
We said that about the protocol droid.
The silver protocol droid.
There's a just-up shot of the protocol droid that's like fades into him and it fades out.
The police driver.
Being literally on the Patreon watch party going.
Yeah, two boots.
Patreon watch party going, that's a real shot.
Those are a real person.
We were talking about two boots this week.
He's got to get the emperor's dick out of his mouth.
Dude, what that is.
We said two tubes is so much better than two boots.
It's insane.
Dude, I mean, like every time they're like,
Yeah, we got to go talk to him all.
He's like, do we tell the empire?
Every time.
You know, that's what divorce does you.
Can't they just like...
But he's programmed, though, at the end of the day to, like, do that.
You know, like, it's a certain protocol that comes, like the yellow light or whatever.
They do, they do give them personality.
Yeah, they're trying to do, like, a human droid to it, which I do appreciate.
Like, there's been some, like, C3PO has a little bit of that, like, R2 has a little bit of that.
But you guys love it when the Lando droid does it?
You love it when Landoroid does it?
The one that he's fucking?
What?
It has a...
Yeah, has a full personality?
I mean, yeah, that's awesome.
Are you guys on solo?
Really?
The only part...
I really hate just how he got his name.
I hate that.
Like, when I was sitting in the movie theater
and that happened, I literally went,
holy cornball.
Yeah.
I don't hate the movie.
It's my least favorite Star Wars movie easily.
Out of all the sequels, too?
Here's the take.
Here's the take.
They took all of his everything
and went, yeah, this happened within four days.
Yeah.
They were checking boxes.
But that movie does have some of the best
like costume design.
Oh, awesome.
Like the truvers and the
Ness to like awesome design.
I mean,
and the part of the train
is so cool.
The part of the train is chef's kiss
and I think the actor
did a pretty good job
I do too.
I mean like Donald Glover's Lando
rocks.
He's great.
I think Kear is a decent like
I like the year going off at the end.
Like there are things about it I like again.
Talk about an honorable girl.
Talk about an honorable girl.
No, not honor.
Whatever the actress here.
Yeah, but I'm saying.
Real life?
Yeah.
Lady of Nights.
Very honorable.
her into the animated stuff. Like, let's see,
like, do that stuff. I know they did it in the comics,
but, like, show us that with, like,
the mall style. And maybe they'll do it in...
I think we'll just take from the comics. Like,
let's see it in the comics, just take all the material you have
from the comics and, like, animate that.
I think that would hit. I think, like, my biggest
thing with the mall show, and just with animation
in general, like, I do like the animated Star Wars,
but it feels... There's sometimes
where it can feel very kid-ish.
Mall does not feel that way at all.
So, like, where we're actually talking about, like,
different gangs and... We got heads flying in all.
It's the violent Clone Wars themes that we got.
It feels like it was made for kids that grew up with the Clone Wars.
Which is huge because they just haven't tried that avenue yet,
and they're clearly getting a good reception on it to the point where, like,
we've talked about this at nauseam.
Like, this has a potential to me to be a top three Disney TV show.
It's really aggressive.
It's true, but a very aggressive.
Someone who watch all the first, because there's nine, or there's ten episodes.
A couple people creators got to watch the first eight episodes.
I heard that.
And this is not a, this is not a direct spoiler at all.
all that that person said
was that the tone continues to darken
which I find really
continues to dark
Devon's gonna go to the dark side
I think she had but I'm saying it's been very dark
but it's been very darker
because we have season two
I was thinking are they saving that for season two
I think it's gonna be inquisitor comes in on that ISD
Merck's that frog turtle guy
whatever his name is
and then she's gonna be so pissed that she's like
you know what she's gonna have nowhere instead of an inquisitor
but she's gonna have nowhere to go
because she's gonna be running from the inquisitor
and then Ball's going to be there to save her
and she's going to be like,
you know what, let's team up.
She was looking at him this week
like he was spitting during one of the,
like, that's what I said to them.
She was kind of like,
she was her a cup of tea.
She was thinking about.
Yeah.
Like, thinking about what?
She was thinking about what he was saying.
Yeah.
She was listening.
I think, I think through that,
my hope is that he,
he says,
he thinks it's an inquision.
Here we go again.
That's not happening,
he thinks it's an inquis that kills Docky.
I think Maul gets in her head
and she kills Docky.
She will never.
Oh.
That will never happen.
There's dark themes in this show, right?
There's dark themes in this show, but they're not going to go psychopath, though.
You need something that is a catalyst for you to turn.
I'd love it, though.
Yeah, would you not love that.
I would not love it.
Oh, it'd be awesome.
I don't think they're doing that.
I need to see him die.
I need to see him die.
Well, he's going to die.
I think Vader's going to kill him.
Do you think Vader's going to kill Vader season one?
I think we're getting Vader season one.
Last episode or last two probably because they're going to save it for the people that didn't see it.
I think we're getting so fast.
I think we might get Vader first mall.
We're going to get that same animated version of Vader 2
from season 7 of
Clone Wars and that was such a good looking
Vader and why is Maul fleeing when Vader's coming
he's got a fear already at rebels
He knows
He has a fear for a specific reason
That they're gonna show us
He has to get knocked down a peg because when you look at him
In Clone Wars it's very like revenge driven
And very output driven
Very like using people driven
And it kind of seems even though he's using Devin by the way
Kind of seems like he's developing like a little bit
Being like you know I'm not gonna fight this turtle dude right now
I'm gonna break this bridge
So he's developing a little bit
But in Rebels
He's back at square one
You gotta think about like
That's the guy who's running around the desert
Like I have nothing
Everything is gone
So he has to fail
And right now he's very
He's like calm cool collected
Right running the mob
He's fucking killing families
Taking him out
Building to him
Right now
Yeah
This is it's building to him
To a point that he is going to have
A guy
Bro is hitting the stanky like
Yeah it's his penis
He has no penis
Which we talked about the other day
Which we don't know for sure
But he's building to
I could add to the rage
No he plants his seed
He plants his seed and Darth Dev through the hatred aspect of things.
He just has so much hatred that it just comes in.
Hatred body.
To me, in episode three, when he pours it a tea and then he's in the shadows,
major Raja Ghul vibes to me.
Or he's like, like, the League of Shadow shit.
I think they're trying to do a Nolan thing in the whole show.
The first episode opens with a bank heist,
and then as they're trying to get away,
they shoot the wire across the buildings to, like, stop him.
That's what they do with the helicopter in the dark night as well.
And then even the body fake out.
where it's like, we got them all.
We're bringing them into the leader of the pike.
The Joker is there.
The Joker walking into that scene.
I swear they're taking Nolan things.
I swear I've seen it.
I never put that together.
I have never thought of that either.
A little thing where I'm like,
they're ripping off Nolan in like the best way.
Raza will go with things perfect
because even like the tea
and like all that stuff,
the atmosphere of the room,
like the way everything's laid out.
It's exactly how it would be.
Was crimmed that pike wearing hockey pads in that scene?
I liked, he did look like he had more aura
than the last time we saw him.
Dude, they looked those many things.
Two balls or whatever his name is.
He's got hockey pad.
Minifig opportunity, all these people.
Like, we talked about this a couple of times
being like, oh, wow, we can maybe get minifix from the Black Sun.
We can many things from the hugs.
Or huts, we can mini figures of the Pikes.
Pikes.
Like I said, but these episodes, were we in episode three?
And he's already clearing out an entire planet.
Like, these are opportunities.
Let's get a Pike.
Do they make Pike mini-fish?
I have a couple of them.
I know, like, what they look like.
I feel like I've seen them in your thumbnails maybe,
and maybe a bracket or something.
I kind of like the way they can.
Fuck the pike.
All my homies hate the bikes.
Me too or three different.
There's like one, like the unique, like the one with the orange face, that like hexagon.
Yeah.
Well, the pikes have been cutting shit.
People were talking about this.
Pikes have been cutting their spice.
They've been cutting their spice.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I don't know if that's for sure.
I've heard that through like underworld like channels when I was at the bar.
When we were at, um, what's it called?
Doc Gondars and Galaxy's edge.
Somebody told me that is.
I don't know how accurate that is, but.
But the new guy that he just, he killed off that guy, though.
So the new guy that's taken over is going to bring it back to that peer shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That Heisenberg shit.
No, for real, man.
That shit's about to go Oppenheimer.
At 80s spice.
Here's a question for all four of you guys.
What is the best time, what was the best time, or is in our lifetimes to be a Star Wars fan?
No brainer.
Season two of Mandover release day or finale release day when Luke came back.
No brainer.
Season seven of Clone Wars in that drop.
The last couple episodes of Season 7 of Clone Wars instantly.
The community has never been together like it was that day in December of 2023.
Never ever, ever, or 2022, or 2021, whenever that was.
Never.
Never.
Not the day Luke came back.
That's because we were like this.
We were like this.
We were a lot of arms.
That's because it went so far down and then it needed something to revive it back.
And so that's why they were together.
That's the best time for you.
100% Mando season two is peak.
Mando season two.
I got Mando fatigue,
Bo.
Yeah, me too now,
but we're talking 20-20 glasses.
Mando season two,
I was back.
Mando did bring the fandom back together.
It brought you back.
I was actually back.
I was on a planet with Bocatan.
Then I'm like, oh, wow, that's a soak on live action.
Next episode, I'm like, oh, Boba Fett has rockets in his knees.
And then I'm like, holy shit, it's Luke Skywalker.
Don't do that about Mando season two.
No, I guess time in realize it might be the best because then you have Mando season two,
which is the new stuff that's actually good.
And then you can also, if you're into that and like that was your first thing,
you can go back and you can watch Clone Wars.
You can watch all the movie, whatever it is.
Because I guarantee you there's so many fans out there that started with the Mandalorian and not the movies.
Oh yeah.
The Grogue itself, it was like the biggest selling point to get those new fans.
W-19-year-old female marketing and turn the cable.
Can I?
Can I?
With this movie, this is probably going to get a ton of fans.
The guy goes Yoda and she goes.
It's like it a baby.
Yeah.
Then the first concept art of Groguer looked so ugly and just like disgusting.
A little bit of refining.
What would you guys say, best time in your lifetime?
So mine was Rogue One simply because walking out of that theater, because I didn't get the theater.
It's not my favorite Star Wars movie, but I didn't get the theater experience with Revenge of the Sith or like any of those.
I just watched it on DVD growing up.
And so that was like my first time where I walked out of a movie theater and like from Star Wars and had chills.
And that was like, that's, and I'm a big.
What do you watch that with?
Stone.
That's right.
That's right.
And who knew more about Star Wars at that moment?
Stone.
That's right.
And then why did he have to go on the podcast?
And a point I just want to make this.
He's studying.
He's doing some research.
Our first interaction we had together was should Disney have bought Star Wars?
Did you notice when you asked when the peak time of Star Wars was?
Everyone said when Disney, it was a time when Disney owned it?
Well, we were saying in recent time, that was the question.
He just asked what the peak of Disney Star Wars was.
My answer would be summer of 2005.
Which like, maybe I'm a couple years older than you guys, but that was like me and my cousin.
Yeah.
I feel like you guys where it was like, me and my cousin were coloring, wrapping paper tubes like lightsabers, buying all the Burger King toys.
Like that felt like.
The Burger King toys were so fired.
It was like Star Wars mania was everywhere.
And I was seven.
So it was like the perfect age for me to just be entrenched in it.
My number two would easily be the lead up to the Force Awakens.
That felt like just the time where we were like, what do you mean we're getting a lot?
know that's a better answer.
What do you mean we're getting another Star Wars?
Yeah.
It felt like the fan was being together in a way where it was like, yeah.
Yeah.
Like the Force Friday when they put the toys on sale.
The trailer was fit in with a lightsaber?
Yeah, dude, I think, I think, yeah, I just didn't want to bring up the sequels, I guess.
But that's, dude, that's probably the heavy right.
Even if you didn't like the Force Awakens, the lead up to it, you just had like the hope was.
We were, how pop where we go?
How pop where we go to that?
I was pumped and also walking out of it.
I was, I'm still one of the people where I'm a Force Awakens fan.
I just think how they, I think just how they, I think, just how they just how.
direction they brought it afterward was where they went wrong.
I was very hype after the fact of Force Awakens too where I'm like,
we're about to get a piece.
I went to the celebration the year after when we were leading up to the Last Jedi.
And I've never seen like a celebration more everyone together.
That might be a time.
No, no, no, that might be it.
That might be it.
Yeah.
Last Jedi trailer.
That might be the hype pinnacle.
Seriously.
Now I'm thinking back at it because after Force Awakens, it was actually okay.
And the Last Jedi trailer was interesting.
Yeah, the Force Awakens, it felt like before the Last Jedi came out,
There were the people that were like, well, it was very similar to a New Hope.
But that was like the worst thing people were saying about it, which isn't that bad.
I might change my answers to the last Jedi trailer.
Because the last year trailer was cool.
Oh, yeah.
The last trailer was very intriguing with the Jedi ending.
I slept on the floor overnight 15 hours in line to try to get into the room where they were watching the last Jedi trailer.
I got into like an overflow room.
Warwick Davis was there.
So I was like, all right, I'm happy with Norwick.
Happy to be here.
Leaving.
People were like, Lucas in the dark side.
He's turning to the fucking dark side in this movie.
that and everyone's so excited like I swear leaving celebration they were like he said it's time for the
jettide and he's fucking dark side look they're gonna have to get him back from the dark side and then he
didn't go to the dark side he was just like angry but people didn't like that more this is an example
of t-t star was at an early age when that premiere came out we weren't my family was in Canada right when
that trailer came out and i remember i command shift four screeneded shot it on youtube and i got like
a like not a hundred that's a lie probably 30 pictures or 25 pictures and i put them all in a
slide show and i screen recorded my mac with a voiceover yeah and i
I talked and I did a trailer breakdown and I finished it like eight hours in my hotel room like with my parents and I closed my computer and I was like all right cool what about my dad that was just for you yeah I was like so jealous of it didn't upload it anywhere no I didn't have anywhere to upload it I was through thoughts like from the office when he just types into like a word document creed thoughts
who was my Ryan who set it up would be the question I wonder who set that up for me mattie but that's the level of like where I'd make it and be so jealous of people who got to do that and then be like watch it one time be like oh that's fire closed computer that's hysterical yeah
So I might actually change my answer to that.
For me, like, it was either when I was a kid,
because I just had distinct memories of, like, us watching episode three in my living room.
Yeah.
Like, playing Lego Star Wars.
Yeah, like, all of that.
It's either that or, like, for me, the last four episodes of season seven of Clone Wars are, like, to me, is the top of the top.
Like, I'm a huge.
You big Martinez sisters guy?
No, the last four.
The last four.
The last four.
Seedia Mandelor, yeah.
I don't argue that Martinez sisters is good in that because it just makes the peak to look so much better.
Fair.
Two degree, yeah.
Like, I feel like that moment to me, because I'm, like, a huge Asoka guy.
Like, I think that it was one of the better decisions.
Let me see your search is.
Bong, by the way.
Bunk, yeah.
Let me see your searches, too.
There's nothing on there.
No, we were in a joint note room last night.
I think he's clean.
But, like, for me, that was the kind of, like,
Clone Wars added so much to Aniken's story to me for episode three, which makes that so much
better for me.
And, like, that whole part of it really helped kind of connect everything to me.
The way they weave it into Revenge of the Sith, where it's, like, the meeting with
mace, like, right as soon as Osco walks away, it, like,
leads into that.
That is what I love, especially as a person who went in with, like,
the little reservation of, like, nobody ever brings her up in the movie.
Exactly.
And now when you have her in Mandalorian and she's talking about her and her and
her on screen together and stuff,
I think that stuff helps as well.
So you would think about the movie thing, you'd be like,
they never brought her up?
Oh, big.
Like, as a kid, like that would make me angry.
Yeah.
And now I'm like, I don't really give a fun.
We, we watched an interview recently.
I brought this up, like, maybe a week or two ago.
And it was the same, the way that my way that,
mall came back, I always thought in my head
that Dave was like, this would be great, let's
do this, and he's like dumb and what. It's actually
George that was like, hey, I want to bring
mall back. In three days, can you come back to me and let me know how we're going to do that?
You guys figure it out. So it makes me think now
that a lot of that Asoka stuff that people have said
like when I was a kid, I remember reading art, like,
George wanted Annikin have a paddle and blah, blah, blah, or
Dave wanted Anakin to have a paddle, blah, blah, blah.
Kind of makes me think it was actually George being like,
get this done real quick. Oh, I, I think George was heavily
involved in all that. But there's interviews of people saying that
Dave was doing that and never mentioning that it was put on his desk.
George always tries, I felt like he always tried to like course correct, if that makes sense.
Yeah, take credit for stuff.
And it was also like...
Take credit for the good stuff.
In the first few seasons of the Clone Wars and after the movie, people hated a starboard reception.
So that was also maybe George being like, yeah, that was Dave's.
And then when they bring it back around, it's like, George could be like, yeah, that was mine all along.
And like, people, one of the biggest complaints with the prequels I've seen is, like, people think Anakin's turn was too fast or whatever it is.
And obviously, the Clone Wars helps add so much confidence.
context to that. But like that's the in my mind like the George Lucas trying to course correct
adding Asoka, adding all this stuff to make his terms seem more natural and like progressive.
And tell you what, it worked because there's a ton of people in our generation and the generation
a little younger than us, just kids a few years younger than us, that look at the prequels with such
a great like full story from the Clone Wars where it's also like there's a reason why people a little
older than us hate the prequels because they never watched the Clone Wars.
And they only have those three, and it's just like, all right, well, those three are, you know, flawed movies or whatever.
You add so much from the Clone Wars.
You look at them just through rose-tinted glasses then.
When anyone brings up prequels or, like, O.T.
or, if you're talking PT, I'm including Clone Wars in that, like, conversation.
Like, I'm not just talking three movies.
But someone would, someone could give you a hard time for that.
I wouldn't.
I could see someone.
I could see someone give me a hard time, but it's still like.
Doesn't make sense.
Shockty died before you were talking to an unk.
and and like that's what you're said that's that take where they'll ask you guys we grew up with battlefront
too so like that was like like i remember playing that on the PSP a lot growing up yeah i had it on
on PSPS they still got the case for it on the PSP on the show so i'm like you got the video games
you got all that going on like it was not to enjoy it was the meta of your eight and your mom says
no first person shooters no call of duty little does she little that she know you could hold the
bottom the bottom arrow on the D pad and it would turn first person for third person basically playing
Star Wars god
Although you can't be playing Battlefront 2 in first person.
Yeah, can.
No, I mean, you can physically, but you got to be playing that.
Oh, it was horrible.
But when I was a kid, I was like, I was like, fuck you, mom, this is basically God.
Trying to take God away from me?
How are you not see your character running around?
Let me ask you guys this, because I know you guys aren't, I'm probably the biggest sequel trilogy guy in the room by a long shot.
Is there a world in which they could do a sequel trilogy show like the Clone Wars that fills some of the gaps and fills things in that you think could turn your, maybe not fully into liking the movies, but turn your.
opinion on a little bit like what gaps though six to seven I think you would have to
do more Luke six to seven it would have to be a lot you'd have to do some pre-episode
seven six to seven if you have to do a lot of flash yeah genuinely yes yeah why
would you need six I would want more seven to eight I think you want to see more
of the Jedi temple stuff with Luke and Kylo to excuse the yeah a lot of people hate
about eight of him having that flash moment is that a before we've got to see a
I'm dead serious same like what you want to correct the worst part of it you're out
you want to add context is the best movie in the sequels
No, but you're adding the context to why Luke is...
Yeah, it is tough, though, because Last Jedi and Force Awakens are one after the other
in a way that no star...
You're gonna show how the new Jedi over falls to.
That's almost like a...
Yeah, exactly.
Like, that's the big thing.
But you wouldn't want to...
But you're like...
Podcast aside, seriously, that's insane.
I'm not, like, actually...
It's like, you can't...
What is that?
We just argued...
Bro, he's talking about, oh, I'd love to have a show in between episode seven and eight
instead of episode six.
It wouldn't be...
That is ridiculous.
It technically wouldn't be between...
It would just be, like, adding context of what's going on during that.
8 and 9, I think you could do a show there.
The context that matters is, hey, we just spent 11 on-screen hours,
taking this whole story over and building this, and getting to an end point,
and we're going to start at square one.
The gap that needs to be filled is, why are we back to square one?
I don't care what happens in between episode 8 and 9.
I do kind of care about that.
I'm curious about that.
I'd like to see more lay-training way and stuff.
No, 6 and 7.
That's the biggest gap where it's like, let's see that.
That's ridiculous.
Yeah
I want skinny layer training Ray by the way
Don't give me none of that foo of shit
Uh rest and peace carry fish
disrespect to carry fishers
Yeah, rest of peace carry fisher
You're dead?
I'm just kidding, I know that
Reson piece carry fisher
But uh
I don't like they're they're all
I think this side of the couch
Is more so accepting of the sequels
I'm a I'm a like my
Oh I love the quad jumper
They've heard me say this a million times
Let's slow down here
I love baboo freak
And I love the quad jumper
And who's that bitch with the fucking gold helmet
and the maroon like outfit, Zan.
Oh, yeah, Zori Bliss.
I love it.
Great character. Great character.
I even like Poe-Dammerin.
A bit of a gloop shit.
I actually like Poe-Damron, too.
I just think...
But fuck those movies, though.
My biggest issue with the sequels is that the character...
Like, the story that they could have had
for how they set it up in Force Awakens
to where it ended in episode nine
is just so backwards of what I would have done
that it annoys me.
It's like if we planned those movies.
No.
I give myself more credit than that.
Do you?
We've recorded with these in our hand eight times.
the first time you're going to hear us.
Fair.
It's like if we made the fucking sequels, dude.
Yeah, it'd be more like poetry and stuff would be rhyming.
Yeah, it would rhyme.
I go back and forth on the planning stuff
because I think even the prequels get a little bit too much credit
for how much they were planned nowadays.
Because I think, like, looking back,
like, you probably shouldn't have killed Mall.
Those are or farming stores.
George had a lot more plan for Jar Jar Jar and, of course,
corrected, took him out.
But through that one scene in episode two,
where he looks at the camera, like, I'm still here.
He's aura farming.
I see what they were,
they definitely should have planned it better
and probably had a connective three director
lead through all of it.
But I look back and I'm like,
I see what they were thinking in the first part of like,
both Star Wars trilogies were done like this,
let's do it like this,
and then quickly it was like different ideas
from different directors going in complete opposite directions.
And then JJ bringing it back and be like,
I'll try to satisfy everyone with the last one
and then nobody was really satisfied.
You can't do Marvel in Star Wars.
Yeah.
The themes, if you take the themes and you isolate them,
Is this one see me?
Oh, yeah.
If you take the themes and you isolate them.
Ray?
Still figuring out on cameras.
Sexy girl.
Very powerful.
Dope.
Who cares?
Finn.
Stormtrober Jedi.
Dope.
Very cool.
Kylo Ren.
Princess Leia and Hansolo's son.
Turns bad.
Was a Jedi with Luke?
Cool.
All this stuff is cool on paper.
Yeah.
So I want to put that out there.
The Snoke stuff.
I mean, like, I wanted to go into episode nine with Kylo being the big bad and then you bring back emperor.
Which I also was like bringing back the emperor.
That's awesome.
How did he come back?
Yeah.
And then it's like in Fortnite.
and it's explained it.
You got the DLC in Fortnite to find out how the emperor came back.
899, by the way, for the season.
How are we feeling about Mandalorian and Grobu?
Like, across the board, give me a number out of 10 hype-wise.
Stone?
I mean, I got, like I said earlier,
I got a little bit of Mandalorian Grogu Fatigue,
but watching that newest trailer shop like yesterday,
kind of right back on it.
I don't know.
Just seeing Enbo and all that stuff gets me hype.
So I'll go like 8-8.
Robbie?
I'm with Finn on the 10.
It's the same thing.
I was excited for it to begin with,
and then that trailer dropped yesterday,
and it literally,
they probably couldn't have picked the best,
better scenes for it.
I mean, obviously,
that's a lot of the same scenes.
A lot of the same scenes.
It felt like an extended trailer.
It's the same scene,
but I appreciate that they're not given out a lot.
Like,
I like,
I've been complaining for years.
I don't like watching a way too much.
What about you?
I would go like mid,
I would go like eight and a half.
Oh, lowest.
Yeah,
just because, like, for me,
as the trailers have gone on,
it seems like there's a more concrete story
that they're doing with,
and I was worried that they were trying to squeeze a season
of the Mandalorian into this movie
where it's just this bounty, this bounty, this bounty.
But now with this newest trailer,
it seems like there's actually like a goal
for him to do that's bigger than a bounty.
Yeah.
So if Fabro says they're not trying to do that,
don't believe it.
But you watch a trailer, then you believe it.
Yeah.
Okay.
I go back and point,
it does feel, like, Umatam, for sure.
It does feel from the trailers already
that they could have reworked a season
into this movie.
Yes.
Like the concept is there
where it is like he's going after
or specific bounty or whatever.
Apparently the first 18 minutes were sick.
People noted Jeremy Allen White has second billing
in the movie.
So people think Rod is a much bigger part of the movie.
Main character, by the way.
We had this debate for like 20 minutes straight.
He's got a billing over Sigourney Weaver.
That's crazy.
Thank you.
And I think Sigourney Weaver's probably turning heel in this movie too.
But like, how is he going to be the main character?
I don't know.
Because he's a toy.
Because he's not in the newest trailer.
Because he's a toy.
But is he going to be it on a razor dress?
Is this movie not focused wrong?
It's not like, how are you going to be a main?
He's going to join the mission?
How are you getting them all plans?
The movie's based around like Huts, no?
And then I'm like, I think that's just going to be a stop on the way.
I think from the people that saw like the first 18 minutes at Cinemacom said that there's like a storyline where he basically has to go to the huts to figure out who his bounty is.
Yes.
So he has to like help free Rada from captivity and then maybe he'll get the answer.
Because the bounty is like an unknown.
We don't know who he's going after.
I also think it's eventually going to be revealed that like maybe the bounty he's.
going after is not an actual bad person.
It's Orsing.
The Sorney wants to take him out for some
reason and she's the big bad.
It's Ors Singh. I think they're playing
with us with Sigourney Weaver, which... What's her
character name? She's on this, right?
I genuinely don't. Colonel Ward.
She's very heavily involved in the trailer.
Yeah. Yeah. We have a dude in the
Discord. Shout out the Discord who works
for ILM and he did some of the
lighting and the... What's the thing called the
wrap around screen? Oh, the volume?
Volume screen. So he did work on the volume screen.
And he said
all I'm going to say
is that the movie has
legitimate galaxy implications. By the way,
he said this months ago. I've been saying this on video
for months and people are saying,
Mando season 4 adapted to a movie. No.
People who are in there working
on the movie are saying there are galactic
implications. This is a big deal.
But you can't say that watching the first two trail is not the one that
dropped yesterday, but the first two, there didn't look
like there was a clear direction in the movie.
It doesn't look like it, but it sounds like it if you listen
because she literally says out loud,
we are trying to prevent another
war, that's not like, hey, can you come kill this
random guy for me? I guess, but
that's just, like, movie. You got to take
a Soka show, put it right here. If you don't like a Soka show, it's a shame.
And you got to take a Mendo movie here and say, wow,
they're trying to do a little bit of this.
You think Osgo makes an appearance in this movie? Yes.
Why? That first shot of the
I was waiting to tell you this, Rob, I was excited about this last night,
and I held my breath in the bar. That first
shot of the trailer, where's Groke?
Because I can tell you where I think he is.
I think he's on that planet with Luke. I think he's on that planet with Luke.
So is this going to be a potential? We get to see Luke's guy walk on the
Big screen with CGI.
That's the...
Bro, take a look at those screenshots side by side.
Tell me that's not the planet.
You could be right about that.
Tell me that.
Okay, but who else was on that planet?
That's all good.
Big screen, it's feloning.
He can't help himself.
Are we getting thrown in the movie?
No.
You'll get a mention.
You'll hear his name.
You'll definitely hear his name.
You'll definitely hear his name.
You'll see him on a bridge or something.
You'll hear his name.
You will definitely hear his name.
We'll hear his name for sure.
100%.
Mall and Solo-esque where you just get like a quick glimpse maybe?
Yes.
Right.
Where you build to Asoka Season 2,
or if Dave Faluny wants to tease air,
The Empire,
his big Avengers movie now.
Yeah.
People are going to walk out of this movie.
It's going to be really annoying
for all the public defenders
of the last couple months.
People are going to walk out of this movie
and go, wow.
I cannot believe I tried to be performative
and hate on that for a year.
I think it's going to be fantastic.
The box office projections
are like lower than solo.
People are down on it.
Like a $75 million opening weekend.
You're out of your fucking mind?
I'm spot break.
I'm taking the over on that.
100% pounding the over.
going to hit 100. If fucking
Super Mario Galaxy is hitting 100, and I know
that's like more kids centered. A gas movie, by the
way. But it's like, who's not trying
to take their kids to see the baby Yoda movie?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Especially the people that grew up liking Star Wars
and like going all that stuff.
The first Star Wars movie in eight years or seven,
something like that. People are going to go just to go see it.
Like regardless if they have, like even if they've
watched the Mandalorian or whatever, I feel like
they're just going to go anyway because it's a Star Wars movie
in theaters just to see it, and if it sucks, then they'll never
go back. Is there even anything else good out?
around the time?
Like, is any other good movies
around the time?
Yeah.
There's a ton coming out right now.
There's a decent amount coming out, I think.
The first, like, week of it or two is in the clear, but then...
I thought it overlap with something big.
It's not too far from Toy Story 5, I think, and Minions.
I'm trying to remember.
I thought it was a Marvel.
I know those are all in June.
No, no Marvel stuff.
Nothing?
No.
Yeah.
I think it's going to...
I mean, I think it's going to be one of those things where people leave the theater,
and it's going to be so fun.
Yeah.
And it's going to call back on so much time.
We're talking about...
To bring back the Anzilians.
That's the most excited.
I love the Anzalians, dude.
Dude, in the trailer when they say horrible, baby.
When we walked out the theater and we saw Babu Freak for the first time, what did I kept doing?
I'd be like, hey!
Bobbeth is maybe the best part of that movie.
I love Bobby Frick.
He's my favorite Glob Shitto.
Goats.
Are you ready to publicly admit that the Anzell and Starship cannot fit a standing battle droid?
I already said it.
That was me that said it couldn't fit a stand.
No, you said it could.
No, you yelled at me.
Very.
couldn't fit one.
No, you yelled at me very.
I said that it couldn't fit a battle.
Actually, yeah, that's a-
I literally said it couldn't fit a battle-offord.
That's a crazy take as he was like,
we were, you were talking about being hunched over.
You will not gaslight me right now.
The whole point of that argument was me being like.
I literally said you cannot fit figs or battle-
No, yeah, he's right. The point of the argument was.
Go get the clip.
Go get the clip.
The point of the clip.
The point of the clip was him.
Get the fuck out of here, bro.
Out of rage bait.
Three, two, one.
Play it.
You could do a lot in there because of how small the baboos are.
I think it's a cool idea.
Yeah.
The problem,
my only gripe, though,
is that you can't fit a real mini fig in the interior.
But you don't need to.
But ice,
you're a display outside kind of guy.
I know.
I'm just saying for all of you play people at home.
Matthew,
Matthew, Matthew, Matthew.
The ship may not fit a human.
True.
True.
We got to wait for the ship,
the show,
because think about how small the,
like,
if baby you mean a droids like six foot four.
What are you talking about?
Yeah, there's a droid in there.
We don't know.
We don't know.
We don't know.
We have to,
we still.
There's a droid standing in it right now.
I literally see a B, B1 battle droid standing in it.
What are you talking about?
You're on crack.
I'm saying they might have stood it up for the picture.
You know, maybe in the show.
It comes in the set.
It's in the, it's going to be in there.
These guys make droids and do all that type of shit.
They're literally like fixing up a droid.
Well, that, yeah, that might be the one.
You're shaking your head for.
What do you mean, bro?
It's literally.
That's not what I meant.
Like, um, you said maybe they can't fit humans in them.
I'm saying that's taller than a human.
Yeah, you're right.
It was, yeah, it was a bad call by me.
No, it's a bad call.
I mean, don't get defensive, bro.
I'm just trying to, I'm trying to, I'm trying to get some W-coms right now.
Yeah, it's a bad call.
Yeah, and you'll be wrong.
No, I will not.
You will be 100% wrong.
Finn, actually, this is, this is, I don't.
You're 100% wrong.
Because I said you can't fit a fig or a droid in there.
And I was like, I was like, dude, this is a piece of shit.
I was the only one hating.
He was the only one hating on the set.
He was the only one hating.
Watch the plate hates it.
And then you're, you're in, Finn,
there's a door right there.
He's going right there for liars.
And Finn, your argument was,
Oh, he fuck.
Finn, your argument was he doesn't have to be standing straight up.
He could fit in if he's bent over or in half.
Yes!
My argument was that the ship is going to...
The ship is going to be built for guys who are a foot tall.
That was my argument.
Yeah.
No, no.
Your argument was that the ceiling would be tall enough for a battle droid to stand.
Oh, I didn't.
Finn.
Someone made one argument.
Someone was making that.
I remember that.
Finn, Finn, we've been very...
There's not me. There's no way.
I was hanging out of...
Finn, a lot of people...
I think they might be right.
I'm right.
I feel like you were talking about them building joy.
I think you're just saying what your argument was.
I have no idea.
I could be wrong.
I think they're right.
But I think there are a hundred of this I'm wrong about it.
We're very confidently wrong.
I think that might be the most confidently wrong.
I've ever seen someone out of the four of us.
Oh, I'm 100% positive.
But he just did that whole wink like none of us...
I now, because of how confident you were, I think I might be wrong.
But before, I literally told Matt, I go, oh, I can't wait to ask him about you.
Boss.
I would never...
I would never have a dog shit take like that.
I don't expect it from you, honestly.
By the way, I want to hear how dumb I am.
Today, tickets went on sale, and we've got the Lincoln Square IMAX in the city of the biggest IMAX in the world.
It's the tide for it or whatever.
It's awesome.
Seeing movies there is incredible.
So I said, oh, I got to buy these tickets right away.
I buy tickets to the first Thursday show on 515.
Stoked.
It's 3D.
I hate 3D.
So that was tough immediately.
You can buy my boobs?
That shit hurts my eyes.
So I went back to buy 2 p.m. tickets for IMAX on that day.
I wound up getting them.
And then I realized my fiancee's not going to be able to take off work.
She's going to want to see it.
So now I have tickets for 7.15.
I have tickets opening day 2 p.m. 515, 7.15.
I bought them all today.
Just keep going to 15.
Just keep going to all of them.
You got to go to all of them?
I don't think I'll be able to make the middle one,
but I'll definitely go to 2 p.m. 7 p.m.
So for all the sequel movies except 9.
So for 7, 8, and Rogue 1, I saw all three twice opening night,
and it was so much fun.
So I'm at 7 p.m.
to a different movie theater, saw him with my brother at 11 p.m.
Are you going to get the movable mouth, Grogu, uh, popcorn bucket?
I saw a couple of the popcorn buckets.
I was glad that Grogu isn't like, it's a Mando helmet, right?
It's a Mando helmet.
There's an A-T-A-T with Mando on the side that's kind of sick.
No, Sir Lissy?
I think there's no, like, uh, I really want to say, I just saw the,
I really want to say, no Sauru-Hull one.
No, but there is a Grogu-Haw-D-Lad-O-Hull-O-Hull-L-O-L-L-O-L-L-A.
I thought they would do the pram.
I thought they would, I was a really a six-a-a-one.
I don't know why I didn't do that.
That's like a new pram in the movie.
You could actually fit popcorn in it.
Wow!
That would be the best popcorn bucket, you're right.
What if I just brought this?
Literally just that's the best popcorn, that's perfect.
They'd probably let you bring it up.
They'd be the best popcorn bucket.
They'd be like, wow, this guy's definitely going to kill somebody.
This guy's weird.
Some of the, uh, there's like a grogo cup that looks almost like he's in the bubble of the N-1.
It's kind of sit, like out of the straw.
That's cool.
Yeah.
They're going to get so much money on me in opening night.
Have you seen the new May 4th set, the Lego, N1?
Oh, I did.
I like it.
Yeah, it looks great.
So what was the argument about in a group chat the other day?
Because I saw, so the cockpit looked tiny to me, but you guys were saying it's too big?
So the chair, so this is a, it's a prominent argument in our Discord right now, too.
The chair, people are claiming is minifix scale.
Like, they built that chair for a minifig to sit in it.
You can, but it's not, it's too big to be actually like one-to-one mini-fig scale is the argument.
ship.
They have this control.
But we were arguing just the chair.
We were literally arguing just the chip.
Like they have this weird thing where like the shit.
Well, the set itself is a little bit too big too.
Like the UCS are obviously like bigger, higher quality, like more detailed ships.
And so like certain things like if they did a UCS interceptor or something will be too big to be mini figure scale.
Yeah.
And they for some reason, all of them hate that for some reason.
I don't mind that at all.
I have no problem.
You put the mini figure right in front of it.
I don't care.
It's a little display.
Here's, here's my thought is the easiest way I can explain why I don't like it is I just, I just,
need like some sort of some form of life in it like someone driving it or something and you
technically leave those ships like empty yeah so they're just like model ships in a way i like the
model ship i think it i think where you're coming i think i think it looks great i think the
builds great i think whoever is looking for an oversized ucs set can the thing not actually reach
the control i'm gonna say for the clarifur yeah i don't think you can't talk about in the group
i might be wrong on that though we were looking at the cockpit of the new n1 we were saying when i was like
When I said it's, I think, two by two, and Stone said, I think it's three by two by two.
We just meant that there was two stuff this way.
Oh, no, I know.
I know.
I knew it that meaning that if the ship, I know it two by two by two.
Well, I'm going to translate to this.
Teaching your numbers right now.
I was just confused because you said it was a different language.
I wanted to make sure if the set is massive and you can still fit the guy in there,
that's where the kind of limbo area is where it's like, oh, I put power to my UCS gun ship.
It's hard to, right, because that area that looks awesome if you were in photography, which you're based.
If you are, you could take a cool.
picture angulation-wise of like, wow, the cockpits
look many big scale. This looks like it would in the movie, but then
you take a picture of the doors and that area
and it's so large, the ceiling is so high.
Yeah, I can see where you're coming from.
You get a situation like the N1 where you get the Grogu in his little
circle, and he looks awesome because
it's one stud and the dome is the
correct size for his head to just be right under it, and it looks like
it's for a play scale ship. Then you look at
the cockpit, and the area around it is massive.
It just comes down to if you have like
eight out of ten tism or
two out of ten tism. Yeah, it's
different sides of the spectrum for sure.
If you're into the, like, I look at this and go,
oh, yes, this is exactly how it's supposed to be, actually.
I did have an issue.
It was my first, like, getting back into Lego.
I hesitate to say that because I don't really have a lot of sets.
But I bought the little tiny guy in the,
I was in the Vegas airport for hours,
and they had the Lego vending machine with the little tiny speeder
that they just put out of Mando and Grover.
And I was like, oh, cool, I'll build this.
It'll kill 20 minutes right now.
That's a nice fig.
It is a nice fig, and I was happy to have a Mando Figg.
He can't reach the handles.
You sit him in the speeder
He's not even close
You lean him forward
You need to put another stud in where the handles are
How do you make a speeder where he can't reach the handles?
That's ridiculous
It's crazy
That's crazy
And it's like a $10 set
So it is what it is
But like it literally would require
One extra stud on each handle
Because they came with one extra
You know a couple extra ones
So I put one extra
And then I didn't have one for the other side
But one extra reached
So imagine you're not a very intelligent adult
LUI
And you're eight?
and that happens to you?
What the fuck?
Like,
that's the kind of shit
that's actually,
like,
not trying to be,
like,
a bit of virgin sweat.
That's the shit
that, like,
actually genuinely pisses me off.
Like,
if I was eight years old,
and I have no other pieces
and my parents don't have that much money,
and I open my set,
my fucking Mando can hold the handlebars,
and I put a piece in there,
and his left hand can hold it.
Like, why don't even put the handle bars in?
Like,
it's Lego.
Like,
you want to click into place.
Yeah.
I thought that was crazy.
It's not satisfying.
So,
wait,
how does that,
So does that see, I've, I've never seen the build, and I've, no.
I'm not too interested in a little bit of a little bit of, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, like, dealt, like, dove into it.
Yeah. And so it's, I'm assuming it's like, the seat where it's, like, it's got the studs on the butt.
Maybe he's fucking built it wrong. I was going to say.
No, no, look, look, here it is.
Could have been user error this whole time.
Oh, that's bullshit.
No, you see where he's, yeah, you're right.
Yeah, you can't reach those.
Yeah, that's wild.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hey, can you lean the fig forward?
No, you can't.
You can't lean it forward and max lean.
Here's the official one.
He's not holding on to that either.
Oh, wait, is he sitting down?
But then on this one.
Is he sitting down?
They got him holding.
They might have moved him up on stud.
That's kind of a nice build.
I think he might have moved him up or something.
It's kind of a nice deal.
It's not bad.
I like the little backpack Grogu he's got on the side of it.
But you're really excited to say you've never bought a man.
Actually, in your specific case.
You don't have a little play.
Is that the old Grogu?
That's what I'm saying is you go in January.
You go in January and you buy the Grogo.
and you get the little old baby mini figure body.
And if you had went in March,
you get the whole new updated.
It's so like, oh my God, do we did a short about that,
like the whole Grogu, the whole money printing, like,
oh my God, it's so frustrating.
I know, I saw that short and I was like, well, they got me
because when we did a 24-hour stream,
I was like, I don't know, buy Grogu.
It's fucking awesome.
That was my defensive of it, too, where I said,
it's going to get people.
I do you guys, though there's three of these on shelves right now?
Like, why do you need three bills?
Yeah.
Kind of thing that's stuff.
I like the little play feature on the back, though, a little.
Yeah.
He can hit the 6-7.
He can hit the 6-7.
He's cranking.
I can say that.
He's 50 years old.
He's just jerking it all of it.
He is 50.
Adult, by the way.
But yeah.
Oh, I was just showing someone that clip,
the age of consent clip,
classic Robbie T.
Because I was trying to describe your podcast to Nate.
I don't know if you know Nate from the office.
I was like, oh, yeah, these guys are coming in.
They do a Lego Star Wars podcast.
He's like, all they talk about is Lego Storvers.
I was like, yeah, let me show you a couple clips.
And I showed him clips.
He was like, that's fucking awesome.
And people will complain that he's, and that was in,
By the way, that was in defense of that little guy.
Yeah.
I'm looking, he was on your side.
I'm like, no, you're right, there's no age of consent.
There's a sliding scale.
Good, good, good, yeah.
And then people are thinking, I'm trying to twist the narrative for myself.
No, it wasn't a selfish.
You just put that on yourself right now.
No, there's a, there's a community out there.
It's a community out there that's keeping an eye on me right now.
People were trying to claim it was a selfish take.
I just wanted to put it out there.
Again, I would never defend Robbie T if there was no reason to.
That was actually a protective little guy.
And you actually backed that up recently when we talked about his butthole.
Shame.
It's a true shame that that's the way.
You're trying to explain what our podcast is about.
It's hard.
I just explained it.
We're talking about the Lego Grogo.
I'm going to my fiance where she'll over here something be like, what does Gooning mean on it?
Nothing, sweetie.
I don't want to talk about that.
Gooning is a specific technique.
It's a specific technique where you build your set, then you take it apart and you rebuild it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But yeah.
Yadi Gundy.
I just wanted to make sure I defended you.
Because when we did talk about the Grogo Butthole, we brought it again.
And I just wanted to make sure that everybody knows the little guy's vulnerable and we're trying to defend him.
So people in the comments were saying that it was supposed to be a slick joke, which it was not.
It's literally in defense of a nice young character.
It was honorable.
Thank you.
It's a good way to back it up when you can say that.
Because the original thing was, I just want to joke about him having a butthole.
But then you're like, well, it's actually a bigger issue.
Got to have your backtracks.
All right, boys.
This was very fun.
Thank you for coming in.
This will be hopefully the first of many.
Definitely.
you guys on my mom's basement.
Go check out the episodes I did of TOT Star Wars.
Please.
Go on their channel.
Of course, check out all their episodes.
And check out the Patreon.
Great stuff on the Patreon.
I'm a fan.
I love it all.
So go check it out.
Yeah, watch parties, streams.
Good time.
All wild.
Stuff like that.
Yeah.
