My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 53 - JAMES GALLAGHER, PETER QUEALLY, AJ MCKEE, MEGAN ANDERSON, & CHASE HOOPER

Episode Date: March 23, 2020

Robbie loaded up on interviews recently, and in this episode they all come spilling out! From James Gallagher and Peter Queally, to AJ McKee, to Megan Anderson, to Chase Hooper, so much is covered across the entire MMA landscape, and there may even be some MMA interviews coming to My Mom's Basement before next week, so make sure you keep coming back and checking the feed! Stay safe friends. Keep washin those hands.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. We're all quarantined. I think pretty much everyone is, at least in New York City. And it's been a weird week. It's been very bizarre. Me and Trent have been just locked up in our little apartment, doing live streams up the ass, as I'm sure you're aware. Everyone in the world, not just at Barstool, is doing live streams right now. From concerts to comedy shows to you name it. We've been doing live movie watch-alongs. Me and Trent did a puzzle on one.

Marty Mush was shooting golf balls into ping pong balls. I don't even know what he was doing. But it's been bizarre. We're living in strange times, ladies and gentlemen. And today, we have a good episode. I tried to load up on a bunch of interviews for you guys. I know people are constantly looking for content to add to this, and I might have some surprise drops this week.

Let me just say that. I'm hoping for one big surprise drop. Fingers crossed. I don't want to even tease it yet because, knock on wood, if it doesn't happen, I don't want to jinx it. It would be a guest that would be returning to the pod. I'll tease it by just saying that. It's one of our favorite return guests. But yeah, it's been weird. I loaded up on interviews for this show. Two of them that I did before we went into this whole coronavirus quarantine thing with Peter Quealy and James

Gallagher. I interviewed them together. If you're unaware, both teammates of Conor McGregor, both working under the guys of, or not under the guys, under the tutelage of John Kavanaugh. I don't even know if I used that word right, but it sounded fucking good when I said it.

They are SBG Ireland guys. It's a fun interview. It's a crack, as they call it in Ireland. We were just kind of fucking around. It was a long time coming. We went 20 minutes, and then I had an interview with AJ McKee, maybe Bellator's one of their top prospects. We went, I don't know, 15 minutes, and then after that, I got an interview with Megan Anderson, who I interviewed via Skype after the whole country shutdown quarantine thing. So we talk about that kind of stuff. And Chase Hooper, the same deal.

So it's a good episode, well over an hour of MMA content. I hope you're an MMA fan out there. If you're not, me and Clem are going to try to get that Infinity War commentary done. We're going to try to do some album recaps. Tweet me. Tell me what you want to hear on the show. Tell me what you want to hear from us. But I'm going to try to do some album recaps. Tweet me. Tell me what you want to hear on the show. Tell me what you want to hear from us. But I'm going to waste no more time.

We're just going to get into the first of these interviews with Peter Quealy and James Gallagher. This was a blast. Thank you guys for coming on. And I hope you guys come on soon after you win those fights of yours, if you have those fights of yours, which probably won't happen now that I'm recording this and realizing that. Holy shit, the corona's just ruining everything. Enjoy this interview where we were very optimistic about James fighting in May. All right, welcome back to the show.

It's a special edition of My Mom's Basement today. This is a long time coming. I got two guys that I've wanted to get on the show for what feels like years at this point, probably is years. Two fucking savages. Two animals. The strip animal and the showstopper. We got James Gallagher and Peter Quealy. What's going on, boys?

It's a pleasure to be on. Big time pleasure. You guys are in New York. You guys had a Bellator presser. Both of you guys got some fights announced. Cal Elanor and Hugh Pitbull. We've wanted this Pitbull fight forever. So we're glad we're finally getting it. We were just talking before we turned the mics on. You guys can't stay out of trouble.

At this presser, you're going after your opponents. The two of you are screaming in the Pitbull brothers' faces, looking like lunatics. Everyone's holding you back. What do you guys have to be upset about? Everything's going so great for you guys, and then you just show up at these pressers, and you start screaming in everyone's faces. Well, they came at us did they yeah they started

well what happened well they started it initially I know that people were calling you out for years exactly he's been called

like they started all this thing when was it two years ago the gym vs gym thing right that's when it all began yeah

they were it was you who started it actually wasn't it it was Two years ago Yeah The Jim vs Jim thing right Yeah That's when it all began Yeah They were It was you who started it actually Wasn't it It was Yeah I just got drug into it That's what I'm talking about Yeah

I know what you're doing Yeah I hang on I know I have to fight the cops Cause he I've dug feet out This is exactly what I'm talking about No what was this So the

Featherweight champion I think I called him out When I was at featherweight. Yeah. So that was, and then he just got fucked off. He was like, who the fuck do you think you are? And then I went and fought. Where was, where did I fight?

I fought somewhere, then he called me out. So I was like, all right. And then I jumped, dropped the bantamweight after that. Do you know what I mean? I was like, don't let me fight the featherweight champion. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? I just wasn't in line for it. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Let's don't let me fight the featherweight champion yeah I wasn't in line for it yeah

do you know what I mean let's be real do you just love mixing it up though like on a real level just to summarize that James gets in trouble I have to come in now

and vote for him thank you and then you're both broken looking after me but we were just talking too you went after your

opponent because you thought he was too close to your girlfriend when it was all just a big misunderstanding. He wasn't even going near your girlfriend. He was going to check his travel schedule. No, he doesn't have the balls for that, man.

I should have known better. And when that is done, are you like, whatever, that was crazy. What a funny misunderstanding. Or is there any part of you inside that's like, oh, shit, I should go say sorry. We were laughing our arses off backstage,'t we this is the better crash it's just it's just i think it's just the irish thing yeah do you like growing up was it always constantly getting into fights for both you guys yeah yeah the smiles on both your faces everyone else is like yeah you know what like my childhood was rough and, no, both of you guys are like, yeah, it was so much fun. It's like everyone was like, oh, you just grew up, like, rough and all.

But I didn't. I grew up good. Yeah, so did I. But it was still, like, rough and all. But it's still fights. No, but it's like pickup games for us. Like, you know, going to play a pickup game of basketball or something. Yeah, do you know what I mean?

So you go out playing with your friends, and then the next minute you would have fights with people, but you'd be friends with them next week. Do you know what I mean? Fights aren't taken with as much, you know, animosity. And then if it was ever bad

then for like a punishment thing, my dad would have made me go down and shake hands with the guy in front of his family and all that.

And then he would laugh at me then on the way back home. Teachers would do that in my school growing up. Like, we had like areas between the classrooms,

like little hallways that really, it was like, if you were there with someone, you would have to talk to them. And if two people got into a fight, they would have to just stand there. There's windows so everyone could see them. And we'd all be like, look at you guys. You're friends now? You were just fighting two minutes ago. Yeah.

So you guys both got fights, both headliners of course. James, you're headlining Bellator London May 16th. Queely, you're headlining October 3rd Bellator Dublin that's a bit of a long ways away were you bummed signing that like not getting to fight

for a while I mean it's a main event which is sick it wasn't but it's such a big fight and I want to break this cunt's face so bad I don't mind waiting for it and Bellator

were really fair with the deal they gave me to do this as well so it's all good and you had the injury which you got to recover from anyway right yeah which I'm almost over now anyway but still I don't mind waiting for this one it's all good. And you had the injury, which you've got to recover from anyway, right? Yeah, which I'm almost over now anyway, but still, I don't mind waiting for this one.

It's a good one. Cool. And what about you? This is kind of on the horizon, ready to get back in there. Yeah, this fight's over a year in the making. Yeah. So that is the first time he didn't get the right brain scan. He didn't go and see the right people.

And then 10 days out from the fight I got a replacement with the ex-GFC guy Slajinger or something yeah him and then so that was grand that was on the way we landed to the hotel did my check in and it's like Cal's cleared to fight I'm like what

like he's cleared we have a new fight yeah last week his career was done do you know what I mean and I just thought it was all a bit fishy yeah do you know what I mean

I didn't whatever so I reached out and I was like I want him next again do you know what I mean it was because Bellator were kind of

like ah the fight's scratched do you know what I mean like let's forget about it if it's not happening Dublin he doesn't got much of a name behind him

this doesn't make sense anymore to scratch it but i was like no he's next you know i mean i'm not i'm not letting him off the hook you know let's go yeah so then we got it rematched again in dublin and then i had a an injury on the ql on my back and the way it is i had like a small little strain kind of tear and it's in between the discs which happened because a lot of fluid and inflammation which swelled up my back and put all the muscles into spasm so i physically couldn't move for about three weeks yeah so i couldn't i was in a bad way i got a horrible back that's why i don't fight obviously yeah because of the back same thing

i feel you trust me so it is but it was a fake injury because I was scared. So you never know. I might have another fake injury because I'm scared to this time. So let me ask you something. The mind games that you play with your opponents, it's very out there. It's very obvious. Everyone talks about the James Gallagher mind games. They talk about the Peter Quealy mind games.

It's an Irish thing, I think, definitely. It's an SBG thing for sure. Do you consider that a valuable asset to your game plan or that's just you? You're just being you. I'm just having a bit of crack, man. You don't even think about it. When you're going at these people like a fucking pit bull, literally.

But if it wants to go off, I'll go off. It's a fight. Do you know what I mean? I'm just having a bit of fun. We know. You'll fight fight we're trying to make you just keep fighting a cage everything's going great for you everything's going great and you're trying to fight everybody

but we're just having a bit of crack do you know what I mean just floating around giving them a bit of stick just a bit of stick I'm not thinking about louder even that thing yesterday

that donkey was like trying to fight you my opponent was trying to fight him and he's like they're two weight classes apart yeah I was like

shut your fucking mouth like that's just what I that's what I would say to anyone on the street trying to fight him so when you talk shit same question for you are you thinking like

I'm gonna go talk shit to him no I'm not planning anything I'm just I'm just that's just that's what that's what my reaction would be if there was no cameras there

yeah I'd just be like shut up don't get mad at me like I'm not it's no like yeah if he wants it That's what my reaction would be if there was no cameras there. Yeah. I'd just be like... Shut up, you donkeys. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not... It's no, like... Yeah, if he wants it,

let's fucking go then. Like, what do you... No, he's like, so they asked me what did I think because I've got beef with the Pitbull brothers and Darren Caldwell and I just said,

I don't give a fuck what anyone thinks. Yeah. So then the next question was for the Pitbull. It was like, what about your fight coming up? And it was all, well, it all started because James Gallagher

and I wanted to get him fighting him and do this. And then Pete was just like, shut your fucking mouth. Do you know what I mean? You're fighting me. Do you know what I mean? Forget about me. You shouldn't even have my name in your mouth. Do you know what I mean?

He's supposed to be the champion this and champion that. I'm just 23. I'm only in the promotion two years. Do you know what I mean? Why would he? But your name's on everyone's lips. Yeah. I wonder why. I'm just 23 I'm only in the promotion two years yeah do you know what I mean what's why would but your name's on everyone's lips yeah

I wonder why you guys must fucking love doing this together like when you guys gotta fight together you can do you can do pressers like with each other

this is the one I've enjoyed and mutual we both it's the one we enjoyed the most yeah cause

we're sitting beside each other and everything it was just a bit of crack maybe everyone else is like we need to make sure we don't put these guys together anymore but for you guys let's put these guys together

what is what is someone it would have been more and only for us what does someone like John Cavanaugh think of like the antics of all this because he's the more proper guy

he's the more let's get everything regulated and ironed because John winds us all up to do this don't mind John John's sitting back going,

I don't get involved. He's with Hell in a Squad. He kind of frowns a bit, but I think he enjoys it. Yeah, he secretly enjoys it. It's such a funny dynamic, like getting to know him over the past few years

and then getting to know a few of you guys. It really is. It seems like a dad trying to wrangle together a bunch of kids. He's like, get in the car, get in the car, get in the car. Oh my really is, it seems like a dad trying to wrangle together a bunch of kids. He's like, get in the car, get in the car, oh my God. He always says, when he talks about us

trying to get us to do something, it's like trying to herd cats. Yeah, but that's what it seems like. Honestly, that's what it seems like. And he's constantly, like, the bags under his eyes, just like, oh my God, these fucking guys. I'm trying to get MMA regulated here. They're going over here.

I remember one time someone asked him, it was years ago, someone asked him was he interested in having children? He said, I've got enough children. Real frowny, I've got enough children. James, when you started training there, you were a child. How old were you when you started training at SBG when you met Sean? I started training

there when I was 14. That's fucking crazy. What about you? How young were you? When I started training at SBG? Let me think. When I came to SBG, I think I was 14. That's fucking crazy. What about you? How young were you? When I started training at SVG? Let me think. When I came to SVG, I think I was 23, maybe 23 or 24. Wow. 23 maybe. 23, I think.

And just like seeing the evolution of that gym for both of you guys through, you know, Connor obviously having to do with that a ton, tenfold. But what has that been like? It's been madness. It's just been one like it's really just the past few years when you really think about it right yeah because but at the start it was more like wow do you know i mean maybe it wasn't as big for everyone else but knowing like gunny got signed and connor got signed and connor blew up and blew you know at the start the 60 g's thing you know know. Yeah. It was kind of weird

because it was just like a dream. No one really, do you know what I mean? It was just a dream. It felt like it came out of nowhere. Yeah. But when I started fighting, it was just something I was doing

because I like fighting. Yeah. And it turned into a career. Yeah. The dream was always like there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But there was no path. There was no path.

It was just like, keep going and hope for the best. It was a dream, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Do you know what I mean? I mean but the dream was always there so would you say Connor like he showed us it's possible

yeah and then it became a reality it's like okay if you just work hard it'll happen and now how many Irish fighters are there

making a full time living fighting how many SBG gyms are it feels like there's from a guy that's never been over to Ireland it feels like there's an SBG gym every 10 minutes you guys got SBG gyms are there? It feels like there's, from a guy that's never been over to Ireland, it feels like there's an SBG gym every 10 minutes.

You guys got SBG, Nass, Charleston, Dublin. There's three or four in Dublin alone. Or in the surrounding area. And how far away are they from each other? My own Nass is about 30, 40 minutes. Is that how you pronounce it? Nass? I've been saying Nass. Everyone says Nass.

Horrible. Double A's. It's about 40 minutes from John's they're all within an hour of a trailer and you guys all kind of go all over training

because they're that close or you guys kind of have their own gyms yeah just their own yeah John's gym

is close to me so it's kind of just it's actually even yeah it's even like yeah it's just we all

your team is in that gym as well so if we wanted to train we'd have to bring everyone kind of bring... It's actually even, yeah, it's even, like, yeah, it's just, we all, but your team is in that gym as well. Yeah. So if we wanted to train, we'd have to bring everyone, kind of bring guys. Yeah, bring, yeah. Yeah, it's,

you need your training partners. It's like, it's not as easy as doing that. How different does it get for you guys when you enter a camp? Is it pretty much business as usual for you guys or does a camp,

are you, like, totally different mindset, totally different training? The mindset, not massively different for me, but I do train more strictly. I'll train twice a day in camp. More regimented. Yeah, yeah whereas when i'm not in camp i might just train once a day or sometimes i won't train or sometimes i'll do two things whatever i don't really care i just do

whatever i feel like but when i'm in camp i'm just like yeah whatever i feel like or not it's twice a day and that's it i love following you guys on social media because when an sbg fighter goes into camp they all follow like almost the connor Connor blueprint of let's make this look like war. Let's make this look like war. We're going to fucking like – It is what it's called. And the time difference too, like a 3 a.m. Instagram post from one of you guys, I'm like, oh my god, I'm ready to fight right now.

I'm going to hop on a flight. But that's the mindset that we're in. Yeah. You know what I mean? For me, it's kind of life's worth death. That's how I think about it. When I go in there, I know it's all fun and games

and we're talking shit and we're having a laugh. But when I step in there, I'll go, I'll die in here. And I'm being 100% serious. I would die in the cage and I would swell,

get my arm broke. Do you know what I mean? And that's just the mindset that I've got. And that's six weeks before the fight. That's the mind frame that I'm getting into. Slowly getting closer and slowly getting closer. And you get bigger and stronger the closer that I get.

Do you know what I mean? The work's getting done. I feel fitter. I'm getting leaner. You just feel good to spar. And I'm getting sharper. And then it's kind of like that last week when you're not training anymore

it's just like let's do this you know what I mean run through walls kind of thing I feel the same in the three arena the big arena

at home we fight in they have us up on the third floor where the restrooms is and it's a pretty long walk down to the kind of bows of the arena and then out

and when I'm walking down them steps I'm literally like I might not come back up these steps and that's the mindset you have to have. Is that the coolest walk to make too? Yeah.

Because for me, like, it's not even comparable, but I'm in a band for Barstool. And when we walk up to the stage, it always just feels cool. You feel like you're in a movie or something. So I always picture, oh my God, walking out for a fight, especially the two of you. It has incredible walkouts. In Dublin, were you with the zombie, you with like your mashup thing that you got going on

with the robe. Like, is that fucking awesome? Do you feel how awesome that is in the moment? Does it snap you out of the fight mentality? No,

it doesn't. It kind of ramps me up because it's like, I always wonder about your one. His one's like a party. Yours is like, yeah, that would take me out

of the party. You go out on stage like a DJ, get the crowd into it my one is very intense anyway so it actually helps me I think

but I'm like the opposite see the way he's intense is where I need to be like more relaxed more flowy

yeah do you know what I mean because I go too much I get too aggressive and do you find you feel anxieties when you

get like that no I just like it's kind of like it lifts the anxiety feeling off me

it's kind of like I'm in my zone now let's just go out have a buzz you're just jamming with the Irish usually what happens happens you know what I mean

and I really don't give a fuck but at that stage by that stage I'm like just I'm gonna fight and that's it I that stage I'm like I'm gonna fight and that's it I'm gonna run through him I'm gonna go at him

be calm in my head and be fast in my reactions and just go with it do you know what I mean I don't even have a plan when I go in there it's just embrace it

and enjoy it same by that stage I'm not even thinking about winning anymore the biggest thought in my head is at that stage

is just whatever happens here. Give it to him. Yeah, make this fucking war. I want the crowd to walk out of it and be like,

Jesus Christ. Yeah. What have you watched there? Yeah. That's all my goal is at that point. Yeah, you're one of those guys, you love the violence.

Yeah. You love the barbaric human cockfighting that people call it like that. You don't back down from that. That's what they want. Because I'm different. I'm not, I'm not, I'm i'm not yeah you're a little more technical yeah

so it is so that's how i become and i'll be like i'm just gonna sneak around his back and elbow him on the side of the skull and be like oh shock and then i'm strangling like just i don't know it's just that lovely feel it's like a sneaky little you know what i mean it's like yeah you're gonna like bang shot the side of the head, and then you're strangled. And it's just, like, these people just looking at you, like, what the fuck just happened? You know what I mean? Yeah. That's just, I don't know.

That's how I like Dylan, isn't he? It's so funny seeing, like, the different personalities all across SBG, all across Ireland. I've had a few fighters from SBG on the podcast, and even just, like, Dylan Dannis. Completely different than you guys we're polar opposites gunny nelson completely different uh brad katona little superman completely different like all of these fighters and sbg i feel like as a guy that's constantly tweeting about sbg and irish fighters i get the chirps of they're all the same they're all they all conor mcgregor wannabe everyone it's so funny like getting to know

some of you guys and seeing how different you are because it's polar opposites you're all polar opposites but like people will say something so

they will judge you off something that you put on Instagram or a caption yeah how can you possibly

know my personality off something that's not even a paragraph yeah that's bad and then I put up a 2am before I was going to bed

and just yeah just have some nothing thing you just kind of fire it and then immediately there's a reddit post about it everyone's talking about it three people want to know about it

the next media day like yeah it's I don't know it's just weird people that have that mindset they think you can yeah

they feel like they know what's what or something like this alright I don't know. It's just weird. People that have that mindset, they think you can... Yeah. They feel like they know what's what or something like this. All right. Before we get out of here, just a few Conor questions for you. Quick thoughts on his last performance, his amazing performance against Donald Cowboy Cerrone. What did you guys think? Amazing. I mean, how could you... He didn't get hit, so there's not anything to really say.

But it's not surprising. Have you been hit with those shoulder strikes as a sparring partner of Connor? They've been going around years. Yeah, they've been going around years. I remember getting hit by them 10 years ago. Yeah, they've been going around years. Well, there's videos of you guys in the old SBG, like the upstairs, tiny, with the bright yellow mats in that tiny cage. Like Jackson Pollock painting on the floor. Yes, there's videos of him hitting the shoulder strikes there against, I think, Gunny. tiny uh with the like bright yellow mats in that tiny cage like a jackson pollock paint yes yes

there's videos of him hitting the shoulder strikes like there against i think gunny about 10 years ago yeah that's fucking crazy but you know what the favorite part of the fight was for me to see when he like a hinky had him like a shoulder they hit him in the knee he kind of like the but you know when he had him against the cage and he had him two left hands? The way he sat down on them, it was like, wow, that was a shot. And vicious. It was like killer instinct. It reminded me of old school Chuck Liddell, but more fucking technical. It was a technical strike.

And it was like, boom, it was like a piston. That was the favorite shot of the whole fight for me. I mean mean he was he was there to fucking win that fight showed his back and it very much showed his hair didn't get

messed up in the fight I messed my hair up more celebrating on fucking press row than he did in the fight itself he looked bleeding deadly at 170 as well

like just solid yeah it's so good like I wish they could figure that out and just have people fight like that yeah he's got a good body

yeah he does for that weight if all the 155ers could just fight at 170 and they could do that it'd be amazing but just the way connor can put on muscle it's like he got bigger for that one you could tell like yeah the pictures before the fight people were talking about it even before he got the height and everything and he's got like it's like perfect proportions a bit like a pitbull or something yeah yeah but like not stiff looking just No, not stiff. Subtle. It was weird, but...

Tremendous. It was a flawless performance. And then just as fans of Conor, as fans of Conor the fighter, who are opponents that jump to mind right away and you're like, that would be fun? Nick.

Nick? Nick Diaz. Oh, Nate, Nate, Nate. I misunderstood. I was like, Nick? Where the fuck is Nick coming from which one's who yeah that would be

that would be that would be he was at the fights on Saturday I think the Nate one intrigues me a lot too I saw

Nate was chirping the other day on Twitter it's Justin Gaethje I hate that that would be hard for him he when I got beat

he came out I used to be like a mad fan when I got beat he came out I used to be like a mad fan when I got beat he came out and talked all this shit about me get the fuck out of here

yeah so he did I was like what did he say something about just laughing at me yeah just the same shit everyone else does just to try to get

that little stick at Connor yeah no just about when I got knocked out totally but maybe he's trying to chirp you to set himself up

for that I don't know what it was but I was like I'm a fan of this cunt, and then after that, I was like, I'm not above that level. He's a little scrote, you know what I mean?

Fuck him. Especially a fighter more experienced talking about you, like a guy that just came into the game. Yeah, but you know what, Robbie, they feel the threat. They feel the threat of the, you know what I mean? I'm just a cub at the minute, but when I become a lion, the lion always eats. Imagine I said shit like that.

I think about that. Imagine I said something like that, but I was serious about it. I can't imagine a situation on planet Earth where that would make sense for me to say. You know what I mean? For real. And then finally, last question for both of you. Any fun stories about the goat, Artem, stick out to you?

I love the goat on this podcast. I want the goat in here. He's up there. He just booked a fight, actually. Just booked a KSW, I think. It's not booked. He tweeted about it, though. He tweeted the other guys, though.

He's just trying to hype it? The old zombie fight? That would be awesome. Yeah, it's not booked? He tweeted about it, though. He did. He tweeted the other guys, though. He's just trying to hype it? Yeah, I know he wants it. The old zombie fight? That would be awesome. Yeah, it would be awesome. They were on The Ultimate Fighter together. Huh? They were on The Ultimate Fighter together.

Yes. He's literally the toughest bastard I've ever come across in my life. Artemis? Yeah. And it's weird him fighting. It's kind of like, he never does stuff right, but it always works. So it is right. It's the weirdest

Everything he does There's a difference Everything he does Is unorthodox The weird like Hammer fist Standing hammer fist And it would break

Your nose It fucking works Boom It's crazy It's fucking Do you know what I mean If you go and ask a boxing coach Wrong that shit

Yeah wait until your nose Is split And then he hits you With his left hand And you're like Look I remember the first time I ever sparred

him I'd seen him fight before and I was like this motherfucker shit I was like just he just looked kind of awkward and I was like I'm gonna kill him do you know what I

mean and then we sparred I was like oh my god it's like you know where I think he proved that it's so hard to do it wasn't it yeah I think he proved that against

Cub Swanson because remember everyone is clowning him with the ultimate fighter stuff oh Connor brought him back Connor did this and then they give him the main event against Cub and everyone is criticizing everyone is clowning him with the ultimate fighter stuff oh Conor brought him back Conor did this and then they give him the main event

against Cub and everyone is criticizing that and then he goes in there and fucking puts on a five round war and everyone was like okay we gotta respect this

and I've been like training with Hardeman I've had like chokes on him and I mean like mate like deep never getting off

and then next minute you're about two minutes in and it's still and then the next mate he breaks your grip and then your arms are fucked and then he's like

boom boom he's punching he beats out of bollocks out of your head they're like bollocks Hankum just leave the chokes for now just fuck that

because it seems to be if you try and choke him then he gives it to you more do you know what I mean after I swear I'm not really cranking here. I'm not cranking. All right, boys.

This has been fun. This is a long time coming. We'll have to get you back in here after your wins on the victory tour. 100%. Let's do it, Robbie. Awesome. Thanks very much. Awesome.

Thanks, boys. All right. Thanks, guys. Now, let's get right into this interview with AJ McKee, also of Bellator MMA. All right, welcome back to the show. It is Robbie Fox, and I am joined by one of the best prospects in all of mixed martial arts, AJ McKee in studio. What's going on, man? How are you? I'm chilling. Thanks for having me today. Yeah, absolutely. So you're in studio. You're in New York City because Bellator just announced a bunch of fights.

You got a fight announced. We're all very happy about this because you had an injury. It was lingering. We were worried that you would get replaced in this Grand Prix tournament. Why don't you talk a little bit about this injury that you had? It happened in the last fight, right? Yeah, so like the first 30 seconds, I threw a spinning heel kick. It was a little off balance, and I fell on my ankle. Then it went my knee, and then my hip, and yeah, I tore my LCL completely. In the first 30 seconds of that fight. Did you know immediately as it happened, something's completely off?

Yeah, my whole leg was numb, and then after the first round, I went back to the corner, I'm like, Dad, my leg's done. And he was like, no, you're alright. I mean, that's what he's supposed to tell me, but immediately I knew, and then after the second round, the adrenaline had wore off. I'm like, all right, you got three more rounds. Started feeling the pain.

Yeah, I'm like, it's time to get him out of here. So in the third, opportunity arose, and I capitalized on it. Yeah, were you terrified when that happened as an undefeated fighter? You're 16-0, all in Bellator. Just as, oh, my God, like something went wrong? No. You're not used to that? Yeah, I just kind of, you got to improvise, you know what I mean?

Yeah. When you're in the heat of the moment, I just kind of knew, like, what was at hand? I can't let that bother me, you know what I mean? You just got to adapt and kind of get it done. So you tried to put it in the back of your mind, not even think about it as you're fighting. Yeah, exactly. Had you ever faced anything like that in a fight? Any kind of adversity like that?

Yeah, I've fought with a broke hand a couple times. Yeah, that seems like a common trend among fighters. It's a little different from a knee, but... Is that the same thing, too, where you know as soon as you throw a punch, like, oh, my hand's broken on that one? Well, I broke it the week before the fight. Oh, shit. Yeah, and then I went into the fight and tried not to throw it as much as possible,

and then I hit him with one, and I was like... Yeah, it's tough. You only got two hands. Yeah, and then it started ringing, and it's like, oh, all right, let me not throw that again. Yeah, so we had this scare, but you had surgery right in January, and you're all good.

You're coming back. It's June. You're going to have June 6th in Chicago. You got called. Well, how do you feel about this matchup? It's a great matchup for me. I like it. You know, he's wrestling's a threat, of course.

This is mixed martial arts. So you got to have a mix of all arts. Stand-up-wise, I'm not too worried about it. He's going to try to play the angles, run on the outside, and get a takedown and skate out around like he did against Corrales probably. But for me, I'm comfortable everywhere. If I'm on my back, I'm going to be the more active opponent. Therefore, I'm winning the round.

For me, it's just staying active. Stay active and beat him up wherever I'm at. He's the type of fighter I feel when opportunity arises for him to have a way out, he'll take that way out. So I'm going to just bring the pressure and break him. You seem cool, calm, and collected, not only right now, but in fighting. It seems like you apply that to your fighting. How do you not let the pressure of fighting

and the pressure of being a highly touted prospect, people are picking you to win this thing, how do you not let that get to you? I don't know. I guess I'm just kind of groomed for it. I have a lot of goals set for myself. So, I mean, I wrote myself a million-dollar check when I was 11. So being able to go ahead and finally cash that and then win a world title at the same time, those are like two childhood dreams.

Yeah. So have you ever felt when you first started fighting, were there moments where you felt pressure? It's always been in you where you're like, nope, this is... Yeah, there's been times. I mean, I sat on the stool in the first round and was like, why am I in here? I don't even feel like fighting. Wow.

So, I mean, just luckily, God's blessing, I've made it through all these fights with wins. But it's been wild, man. It's been a nice journey. I'm glad I've went through everything that I've went through to get me to the point to where i'm at now and yeah just being able to grow you know grow and continue to adapt to all the situations around me and changing gears a bit you you sometimes refer to yourself as the floyd mayweather of mma you'd like to become the floyd mayweather of mma um bellator affords you better opportunities to do that in terms of the money-making ways of making a star than some other mixed martial arts promotions where you could go out and get your own sponsorships,

and you're also your own manager. I believe you still are, correct? Your own manager. So how do you balance all of that where you could still focus on fighting entirely, but you're kind of doing everything else as well? I don't know. For me, I feel like everyone's just kind of watching everything else as well um i don't know for me i feel like everyone's just kind of watching me and waiting to see what i do and how i make it through this tournament i mean i'm trying to get a snickers deal yeah i'm gonna be the first one

as a professional fighter to have a snickers deal i mean even boxing no one's done that yeah so uh there's a couple different things la brand undefeated i'm trying to work with them i'm undefeated why not yeah you know what i mean um monster i'm a monster so i like the brands that i like and i feel i represent them well and i can do big things with them so it's just kind of keeping that friendship and building that bond and chemistry and then i'm sure if they like what they see they'll work with me and then in managing yourself in the fight game, have you run into difficulties having to do that, having to pick opponents? Are you picking the opponents? Are you getting offers?

It's usually my dad. I show up and fight. I don't care who's standing in front of me. So if he doesn't like it, I mean, we're all fighters. In his era, he never turned down fights. I kind of go along with the same thing. He's like, what do you think about this? Signed it out of line, you know in his era he never turned down fights yeah i kind of go along with the same thing he's like what do you think about this sign it out of line you know yeah do you think your mentality will change at all in the future when it comes to picking fights when let's say you go on you

win this tournament you're you're the featherweight champ would you prefer fights that add to your legacy like we just saw israel adesanya talk about the yoel romero rivalry he said that was a legacy thing for him. Do you prefer that, or are you saying, hey, I'm here for the money fights. I'm going to get my money fights and get out of this sport while I'm still young? I would say it's both. I have a legacy to continue on and to live up to. That was eight years undefeated, so I got a lot ahead of me.

And being 24, it's just the beginning. Yeah, it's tough. It's literally just the beginning. So it's just one step at a time, you know, one step at a time and just continue to grow. But those money fights, I'm always with a money fight, you know what I mean? Especially the money fights means that that person's either the best or they really have a mouthpiece. The majority of the time, it's usually because they're the best. It's like Floyd.

I'd love to box with Floyd. I mean, he's not going to step in my world. I'll go in there in his world and test it out. Just be able to say, I did that. You know what I mean? Just another great champion and pioneer of his sport. Do you like fighting fighters that have a mouthpiece that talk shit? I don't mind because I can talk smack back.

That's what I mean. Like, do you like getting the back and forth, or would you prefer the, you know, more respectful build? It depends. Like, I told Carl, I was like, I'm going to knock you the fuck out. Yeah. Straight up. And he was like, I don't take threats lightly.

I'm like, let's fight about it. Yeah, you guys got a fight book. That's the fun part in it. I don't know. I got a weird sense of humor, so I like to mess with people a little bit. It seems like it's fun, though. If you get to fight this guy, why not talk a little shit beforehand? Some people take it too serious,

though. Some people start talking about your mother, your religion, your family. Then we get the McGregor-Khabib thing where you jump in the cage after the fight. So there has to be boundaries, and the level of respect still has to be there. I always feel like that's key is the respect, especially in this sport, man. We're real big on respect. After the fight, shake hands.

Always shake hands, hug it out. That's just how. Let's go have a beer, too. You know what I mean? That's just the thing. Are you a fan of mixed martial arts? Like are you watching MMA in your off time or no?

Not so much. I just kind of pay attention to the guys that are elite in my weight class. So you pay attention to only like Bellator fighters at 145. Are you paying attention

to everybody watching everything? Who are the fighters that you enjoy watching? Holloway. Elite strikers would you say? Yeah, elite strikers. I like the strikers. enjoy watching? Holloway. Elite strikers, would you say? Yeah, elite strikers. I like the strikers.

Jon Jones, of course. Yeah. Style benders, he's got a unique style. There's a couple little things he needs to keep in mind. You see that last fight against Yoel? Yeah, see, like that fight, there was a lot that Yoel exposed him, in other words. Oh, really? I feel.

Really? To the stand-up world yes interesting why do you say that because he showed if you he's a counter puncher yeah he's not going to engage he counters off of you engaging him yeah it seemed that way because even in the first round yoel just kind of stood there and didn't even show everyone like he's he's not about really getting that work but sometimes you know what i mean i i've had fights where it was the same thing with me. Or someone doesn't want to engage. Yeah, and you have to counter.

You have to kind of set traps. But, I mean, who really wants to get hit by Yoel? I know. And every time he unleashed a punch, it was always like an, oh, shit, that's a bomb. I can't take anything from that fight. He fought the exact way he needed to to come out with the win. You think so? Yoel did? No.

Oh, Stylebender did. Okay. I was going to say, because a lot of people were talking about Yoel's performance and saying it's his last shot at a title probably. How could he not come forward like a bat out of hell, Dana White was saying. Watching that as a fan was just very confusing for me. It was like, these guys don't look like they want to fight each other. And Yoel's posting all these videos of him,

you know, running around, making sure his leg is fine. So what do you do in your off time and your free time from MMA? What do you enjoy doing outside of the cage? I got a 700 horsepower Honda that I like to race. You race. Holy shit.

I like to take that to the track, hit the freeway. Big adrenaline guy. Yeah. I'm an adrenaline junkie. Yeah. PUBG, PUBG Mobile. I'm on PUBG Mobile.

That's kind of my game. Yeah. Gaming, that's about it. Are you streaming on Twitch and stuff? No, I've been waiting a little bit. You've got to get on that. I mean, I had it set up, and I just haven't really put the camera up. There's a few fighters now.

Obviously, Mighty Mouse has been doing it forever O'Malley does it now yeah yeah yeah so not too long ago I'd be remiss to not to mention this your father returned

from retirement and you guys fought on the same card it was an all Ken Griffey Ken Griffey situation you both came out with wins

it was an awesome thing you know for us the fans to get to watch it happen and for it to play out the way it was an awesome thing you know for us the fans to get to watch it happen and for it to play out the way it did um talk about that a little bit what was that like man it was surreal was that something you thought about growing up yeah something we spoke about since i was a kid yeah that was one of my dad's dreams he's like i'm gonna fight with my son one day like so just to be able to do that and for this just to be such a hands-on and physical sport and him to be at his age and still competing,

it's phenomenal, man. So he's taking care of his body, and he's one of the OGs of the sport, man. And that was always kind of my thing was making sure he got the recognition he deserved in this sport. So my career being the way it is, the last name McKee will be great in this sport. Yeah, and that night you both came out with victories and whatnot. Did it feel different fighting that night? Did you feel, oh, shit, I better come out with the winner?

No. Not really because I knew if he lost, I had to go in. If he won, I had to go in. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. So we were in the back. He was warming me up, and I'm just like,

Dad, I'm going to get Bellator's fastest knockout. I just felt it, you know what I mean? Yeah. So we were in the back. He was warming me up. And I'm just like, Dad, I'm going to get Bellator's fastest knockout. Like, I just felt it. You know what I mean? Yeah. I wanted it. So speaking it into fruition and going out there and almost achieving it was all surreal. I mean, I was in his corner. I don't think there was any coaching I did.

It was more like, come on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I hadn't seen my dad fight in years. Totally. You know what I mean? So it was pretty wild. I mean, I hadn't seen my dad fight in years. Totally. You know what I mean? So it was pretty wild. When he got the win, was it more like jolting for you?

Did it fire you up? Yeah. Yeah. It has to, right? How could it not? Like your dad kicks someone's ass? Yeah, I was really pumped up. It's literally my dad could kick your dad's ass, and then he goes and does it, and then you get to fight afterwards? That's awesome.

I'm looking forward to this fight. Like I said, it's June 6th in Chicago. It's going to be a banger, I think. I think you're one of these guys that's kind of a must-watch fighter at this point. Yeah, it's going to be fun. I think Cardwell is going to try to skate around, and like I told him, I'm going to knock him out. Let's end on this note as well. We were talking a little bit about your father. What's the most valuable lesson he's taught you? Be patient. Patience is everything. I'm not a patient person at all.

So you've got to remind yourself. I want it now. Everything I want it now. Now, now. Patience. Signing up for a tournament then. That's crazy because you've got to go through all these guys to get that title shot. You probably wanted it a few fights ago.

I mean, I was supposed to get the title shot after Pat Curran. Yeah. Looped into the tournament and fought Georgie just to get into the tournament. Yeah. So it's been a nice little legacy, a little stretch. And there's been some nice names being wrote down in my legacy. So I'm not too stressed about it or anything. I just kind of take it one fight at a time.

Awesome. Thank you, man. I appreciate it. We're looking forward to this fight in June. Thanks for having me. Awesome. And before we get into these two interviews with Megan Anderson and Chase Hooper, jumping over from Bellator to UFC in this podcast, let's talk about staying in shape while we're in quarantine. Everyone's doing the 10 push-up challenge.

I'm sure all of you out there saw everyone on Instagram was doing the 10 push-up challenge. I'm sure all of you out there saw everyone on Instagram was doing the 10 push-up challenge. People are doing challenges every day. People are trying to stay fit in their own homes. I'm trying to get prison jacked. I think that would be great if I just fucking started doing push-ups, started doing burpees,

started doing jumping jacks. Really, imagine I came out of this thing looking like Brock Lesnar. It would just be crazy. To do this, though, we gotta make sure we're putting the right shit in our body. If you saw my snack setup on stool scenes, if you saw it on Twitter, whatever, it's a bunch of junk food. It's a bunch of stuff that would probably give the regular person diabetes. I say the regular person because me, I can

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So if the audio sounds a little funky or if you hear a delay, hey, I'm sorry, but we're going to have to deal with it for a little bit in this weird world. So enjoy. But we're here with Megan Anderson. It's the quarantine cast, I guess. I'm just going to be doing a bunch of interviews quarantine style because that's the only style we can do them in. This is a long time coming. It feels like it's a long time coming. We've been Twitter friends for like years. So how are you? How are you holding up? I'm good. I'm good. How are you? I seen your mom gave you a pretty sweet delivery, which I'm kind of jealous about.

She hooked it up, and honestly, we haven't even made a dent into that. I've got a roommate, too, and we've both been trying to eat that. We haven't even put a dent in the food that she delivered. I'm so jealous. What are you getting up to? Just doing TikToks? Yeah. I've started playing Warzone.

Oh, Call of Duty. Yeah. Yeah, I have it. I tried to set it up. I'm horrible. I tried to set it up. I got the PS4 at the Xbox, tried to set it up so me and my roommate could both play, and we couldn't figure out literally how to get into the game.

I couldn't get in. Really? See, I can at least get in the game. And see, luckily, one my friends uh carries the team because i suck so bad like i've never really played a lot of online games before like i usually just do the campaign but my god so i was at least consistently killing like one person per game so i was like look last night i was like look okay i'm gonna get at least two like i'm gonna i'm gonna aim for two kills per game i got zero in all of the games i've played oh no and do you

is that the mode where you die like can you respawn a bunch of times or you just die once and you're dead you respawn but like when you respawn, you, like, are parachuting in, so you have to, like, find where your team are and find them again. So we play the game. I don't know what it's called. It's, like, you have to get as much cash as possible. Like, it's two different modes. There's one where you have to get, like, a certain amount of kills. You've got to kill all the other teams.

And then there's the other one where you have to get as much cash as possible uh and the and like the team at the end of however long it is that has the most cash win yeah for as big a nerd as i am and as big as nerd as i look like i'm not great with video games video games are kind of the area where i check out um are you still training you're still trying to work out through quarantine mania is your gym still open what's going on yeah our gym's still open james has still kept it open um which is kind of nice like it you know we're pretty we're pretty up on on all the cleaning and stuff like that but a lot of the fighters like we want to keep active and we don't want you know as a fighter taking time off is is not a good thing um so we're trying to take as little time off as possible yeah i was talking to chase hooper

before and i told him i want to get prison jacked while i'm stuck in my apartment i just want to start doing push-ups sit-ups crunches imagine i came out of this thing just fucking huge it'd be awesome so if you've got any workouts make sure you send them my way. But I want to talk about how you got into MMA because I think you have a very intriguing story and very different. You didn't start as a lifelong mixed martial artist like, say, Chase Hooper started when he was eight years old, and he's been doing it since then. So why don't you tell the people a little bit about when you started actually training mixed martial arts? So I didn't actually start training mixed martial arts until I was 23. So almost seven, it will be seven years in May. And I actually played the piano since I was four,

the cello from when I was about six. I didn't know that. Yeah. That's a bit of a mess. Unreal. Yeah, so I played the piano and cello growing up. Extremely unathletic. Like, I would run and fall over. Like, I would walk and fall over. I was so unathletic. My brother used to play rugby, so he was always the athletic one.

I was the nerd band player. But I didn't start MMA till I was 23 and oddly enough out of all the sports because in Australia during school like it's compulsory to do sports at school you have to do a sport so I just played soccer or I attempted to play netball that didn't end up very well um I played some Aussie rules um but for the most part I was I just hated it I hate firstly I hate running I still to this day if I never have to run again in my life I wouldn't anyway that's beside the point but MMA was like the first sport that I really got into that was I wasn't too bad and I wasn't gonna break something every time I moved yeah I was gonna say when you started training and you first break into

the gym or whatever were people immediately taken aback like oh man you've got something there because you've made it so far in so little time yeah it's kind of crazy. And I think people did see my potential. Did you pick it up super naturally? Would you say you're a natural talent in MMA or no? Striking, for sure. A natural talent. The dog's just sitting on the couch and then I'll just be on the couch.

I would say striking-wise, I've picked it up pretty quickly. Like the wrestling, for sure, is something that I've struggled with just because of my length I'm so long um yeah but it's something that I'm enjoying more now just because like I am picking it up easier and you can yell at your dog if you have to he's just sleeping on the couch all right then don't yell at your dog if you have to. He's just sleeping on the couch. All right, then don't yell at him. I mean, that's peaceful. But I would say, like, athletically-wise,

I have picked it up relatively easy. And, like, when you think about it, I had only been training MMA for maybe five years. Or like all like i didn't do anything previously before that when i fought holly i made my ufcw which is like there's not a lot of time no that's crazy and i'm going to say how long was it between when you started training and when you had your first fight even if it was an amateur fight or something six months six months yeah that's outrageous so what's the timeline of like you have your first fight six months after training and then when do you get picked up by Invicta because that was pretty

quick too yeah so I had my first fight in I think it was like November of 2013 and then I think it was 2015 is when I got picked up by Invicta. So I'd only been training for two years. Yeah. One of the biggest women's MMA organizations in the world, which is pretty daunting. And the other thing that I think is funny, you kind of have this in common with Sean O'Malley.

You didn't have a lot of tattoos when you started training MMA. And then all of a sudden you're Megan Anderson and everyone knows you as full leg sleeve, full, you know, double arm sleeves and everything like that. I talked to Sean O'Malley and I always laugh at him because he went all in with the face tattoos and everything. And he didn't have anything two years ago. So I always thought that was funny. And then going to the UFC, it's been crazy, your career in the UFC. I imagine it started as a bit of a roller coaster and now you're on a bit of a fight streak. You're doing much better than you started. Going through how you started your career, first fight against Holly Holm, one of the greatest women's fighters of all time, not only in MMA, in all combat sports, like you said, five years into your career, you take the loss there and then you get a win against Kat Zagano that people kind of tried to take

away from you because it was an injury win. And then you had a loss against Felicia Spencer and now you're back on track. But through that time, you spoke openly about your mental health struggles, which we've spoke privately about, but publicly, I want to say that's amazing that you've gone out and said that and made it easier for other people to come forward with their struggles as someone that struggles with anxiety and depression myself. But talk to me about the first few fights that you had in the UFC and where you are now compared to then. I remember I was super confident going into my fight with Holly. I'd also had 18 months left.

It was 18 months between fighting. So I was ready to get back in there and I was ready to kind of show everyone like what I'm capable of. And it just, it didn't, I just didn't fire like I should have. Did you feel like it was an off night? Like, or like going back,

are you still like, if I fought Holly now and I was the same fighter I was back then, but it was just a different night, different day, do you think it goes differently? I don't know. I think I just have more, I'm just mature now and I have a lot more knowledge and I know what I need to do differently. All it was is every time I wanted to get up, I got up.

I just needed to make that decision quicker um i just kind of hesitated a little bit on on a couple of things uh but it's like it's it's happened it's life like how many of us hesitate on like making any decision and in life whether it's a fight or not um it's still learning most of those decisions don't have someone on top of you you know what i mean yeah trying to punch you in the face someone basically playing defense against you trying to live yeah you know uh but so i was kind of like bummed out after that fight obviously i hate losing i'm like i'm not a bad sport or anything but losing does suck, particularly at a competitive level. And then going into the cat fight, I was super excited.

I was ready to kind of avenge my loss to Holly. And then the eye incident happened. Yeah. Which if people didn't see Megan lands ahead, that I guess your toe graced her eye and it split her eyelid open where i guess like see her eye through her eyelid it was a gross injury and we don't wish that upon anybody but it's definitely something that you had no control over like you landed a head kick and you won the fight yeah so many people like blamed me for that like i intentionally did it i was like look like you can't intentionally aim for someone's eye

I'm aiming for her face uh and like if which is funny that that's the defense because that is it's a valid defense but you're like I was trying to kick her in the face why are you mad at me like that's kind of my job uh and you know it's like Kat didn't really defend properly like her hands were down she was kind of turning away so like the way it kind of worked out obviously it wasn't good for her but it was it kind of sucked because it was like you know it's considered a win and a lot of people still give me shit to this day because I consider it a win I'm like look I don't make the rules and my paycheck was a win which like I'm not going to complain about there is a win on my record for that fight uh yeah it obviously i would we offered to run that back so many times but uh they never got back to

us on on the rematch and obviously she's not with you i've seen anymore so you know it it might not happen unless i go elsewhere. But after that, after those two, because like so many people kind of gave me so much shit from the Holly fight. And I like, Oh my, I let a lot of comments from fans and people that I had no idea and didn't know me get to me. And then particularly after the cat fight, I was like, Oh my God, like it was bad. And like, you can't win. Yeah. Yeah. I just felt like no matter it was bad and like you can't win yeah yeah I just felt like no matter what I do like I can't win and everybody had an opinion on who I was as a person

and you know a lot of it wasn't very nice and it kind of like added to what I already felt about myself and like the issues that I was also going through and and dealing with which then culminated into the Felicia fight and I know I've been pretty open and honest about that like my mentality and my mind space going into that fight and I was I didn't want to be there I remember six weeks before, like I was trying to do like a strength and conditioning session and I was just having panic attacks because I was like, I don't want to do this. Like, I don't want to fight. Like, I don't even know if I want to fight anymore.

But I stick to my word and I signed a contract and it's not fair to my opponent to, you know, rob them of an opportunity because I know how much it means being, you know, I've been in that position as well. So I dealt with it as best as I could and afterwards I started seeing like a therapist or like my life coach. It's not just about fighting for me it was for me it was a lot of stuff outside of fighting that I had to kind of deal with you know my past and and you know dealing with you know emotionally abusive people and that kind

of stuff and get rid of just getting rid of so much toxic energy around me. And I think once that kind of happened, we're on the up and up. Yeah. Isn't it funny? You see so many fighters say that kind of stuff where if they go on a great win streak or even someone like Conor McGregor who just got that win against Cowboy, what was the first thing he said? He said he made his circle smaller. He got rid of the toxic energy.

All fighters say it. It's so much about who you surround yourself with, I guess, in fight. Oh, I agree. Like my circle is so small now. Like when I go to fight week, I don't want anyone but my manager and my coach. That's it. I don't need any extra people. I don't want any extra people around.

You've got a great management team too at Paradigm with Tim. tim and i like all those guys so those guys i think are doing awesome stuff so you are surrounded with some good company there 100 tim is like a brother he's one of the he's a part of the family uh and he's from australia you're like one of the the few fighters that has like their manager in their corner which i think think is. He's the, he's the, the team vibe master. So he, he keeps it pretty chill and I love it. He's, you know, he's done a lot for me and he's stood by, he's had my back through so much shit. And that's the thing, like both him and James,

like not a lot of people really know everything that I've been through, through my life, not just, you know, before coming, you know, not through not just my childhood and growing up and that, and the issues there, but like, they've known everything fighting as well. And I would not want any other people behind me when I walk in that cage. Then those two. That's awesome. We just saw as well James is a fucking savage. The way he

dealt with that Shemotis fight, that was outrageous. But another thing I want to talk about, your win in Norfolk. Something weird happened after this win where your opponent said that she was like fine. She was like, oh, it's so weird that they stopped the fight. But everyone that watched the fight, you know, kind of

saw what you did to her did you what was your first reaction when you saw these comments come out for your opponent she's like oh it's fine it was weird the ref stepped in there um like a lot of fighters say that when they kind of go out you know what i mean like they kind of come out just like no i'm fine i'm'm good. Like, yeah. It was like, sometimes fighters will be knocked out, but they're still trying to grapple and the refs like, no. And they're like holding onto the ref and trying to take the rep down.

It's like the body just keeps going and the mind isn't completely there yet. But it's, I wasn't even talking about instant though. Cause she said it like a week later, a week later, she was like, oh yeah, it's still wasn't even talking about instant though because she said it like a week later a week later she's like oh yeah it's still fun yeah it's weird i i remember looking at her like in her eyes like as she was going down and when she sat down she was fine she looked fine but then what happened was like her eyes rolled in the back of her head and she laid back. And like the ref didn't, the ref was going to let it go. But as soon as he's seeing that, that's when he stepped in. And then you stepped in with, you had the hammer fist even?

Yeah. Like I was just going to continue to do my job. I kind of waited a little bit to see what the ref was going to do. And then as soon as she like started rolling back i was like oh this is not good and then that's when he stepped in yeah the chat even said dumont's eyes said differently um and another thing that you did after that fight is you went and did a shoey which i want to ask about these shoeys all right first of all we weren't we weren't necessarily in covet19 mania yet when you did this.

It was out there, but we didn't know the seriousness of it. Now, oh, my God, you must be like, Jesus, that was crazy that I did a shoeie less than a month ago. No, not really. Well, it was your own shoe, right? You did it out of your own shoe, which is healthy. It was, yes. It was brand new. When Tai Tuvasa started doing this stuff, were you kind of like, oh, shit, I'm going to have to start doing shooies after all my fights now?

Well, so I stopped drinking for like about five years, and I only just started again after my last fight in Australia in October. So it was something that I kind of wanted to do just have fun with it and uh the crowd went crazy which was cool but it went wild for it yeah i know i my my response to all the the coronavirus comments on my stuff about it is like look i drunk beer out of a shoe i'm immune yeah yeah you probably are you probably are now the shoeie itself in australia what is it culturally like if i'm going out to a bar i don't drink myself but say i did and i went out to a bar with a bunch of my friends by the end of

the night if we're wasted are we like doing shoeies or is that like a sporting event thing what is the shoeie in australia what was that culture i you definitely will not see it if you go out to like a nightclub or stuff like that. I feel like it's more like sporting event type things or like if you're with the boys and like you're out, that type of thing. I for sure have never seen it like at a nightclub or anything like that. But it's a regular thing. Like it's not – if you were out and you saw someone doing that in australia people wouldn't be turning and being like what's wrong with that guy they'd be like oh a shooie yeah it's more of like oh what up it's kind i guess

it's kind of like just regularly chugging a beer here but we're not as fun with it yeah like we do that too. But yeah, we just got to add an extra little bit of flavor. And I wanted to ask about how that went, because open scoring is something that's been talked about for a long time in MMA. We just saw the Jones-Reyes decision caused a lot of controversy and brought this open scoring thing up. How do you think it went? Well, you know what was really funny is that morning before UFC 227, which was the Jones-Reyes fight, I was in the middle of Target shopping for like towels or something for my house. And Shannon Knapp called me and she was like, hey, what are your thoughts on open scoring? I was like, I'm intrigued. And we kind of spoke about it a little bit.

And like we ended, I said, as me as a competitor, I would want to know. Like, I think it would be a really great idea. I love it. I said, let me think on it. Let me kind of talk to a couple of the other guys at the gym, kind of feel the vibe. And then we kind of left the conversation. This was, like, midday on that Saturday.

That night, shit went down. Like, in almost every every fight there was so much controversy uh and so I it's kind of crazy because Shannon's just like god damn it it's like people are gonna think that we're gonna copy the UFC but for sure yeah I thought that they were like all right let's let's do this because people are clearly upset about decisions going awry. I didn't realize it was already kind of the gears were in place. Yeah. Well, it was particularly because we had just had an event either that Friday, the Friday night before.

I think there was an Invicta event. So this was like a day later because sometimes Invicta has like back-to-back fights with the UFC. They do a Friday night. UFC does a Saturday. And that Friday was the Invicta Adam weight title between Ashley Cummins and Ginu Fry. Super close. And it was very controversial. Very controversial.

I didn't say that properly. But I think there's a lot of particularly in recent main events for Invicta there's been title fights and it's been very very close and a lot of people aren't happy with the final decision so that's kind of that's why I kind of think Shannon was just like hey let's do something about this because then we kind of give it, we give the power back to the coaches and the fighters that they know exactly where they are on the scorecard. And I think it, I think the event answered a lot of the questions because a lot of,

a lot of what I see was like, look, is if a fighter knows that they're up two rounds, they're going to coast the last round or something. So that didn't happen at all. Like the fights that were made, the fights that were under the new open scoring, the ladies who were winning and were up two rounds going into the third round didn't even change their game plan. Like they were still aggressive in their fighting. They were still executing everything that consistently across the board

throughout the night like none of them kind of ran away same thing with the main event and oh my god that was how amazing it was probably one of the most bloodiest fights in mma history that so much fun but i i think it was i think it was a success and it's a step forward in the right direction and why not like if the rules aren't going to change we have to do something like yeah i've always thought the joe rogan suggestion that he always talks about where he says why don't we add judges why don't we have 12 judges and and or 13 judges you know make it uneven or however you may do that and we'll have a better consistent way it doesn't seem like we're getting there anytime soon at least so the open scoring thing does intrigue me

and i thought it was very interesting that you said like you uh the the biggest question was are people going to coast if they know they're especially in a five-round title fight or something like that and you said that they didn't as a fighter do you think if you knew you were up on the scorecards it would be almost a like a motivating factor like would you want to come out like a bat out of hell in that third round if you know you're up to nothing uh so what i what we've seen in the invicta fight uh particularly in the main event so julia or yulia sorry uh clearly won the first round the second round uh lisa came back and won that round and so she was kind of a little bit dejected going out of the first round come back strong in the second round and like she came out so strong in

that third like it looked like she had like a pep in her step she's like okay like this is like we're still in this fight and you see the body language from fighters because like when you clear-cut know exactly what you need to do like and both of them changed their game plan from round to round based on that like okay what we just did in that round wasn't working we need to change it up and we've seen that. And that's where Yulia started implementing those elbows. And she opened up, like, multiple lacerations on her face. But I think, you know, it's a step forward in the right direction. I don't think – if a fighter's going to coast, then, yeah, that's a problem.

But it is – you kind of know anyway going into a third round, like, whether you know – like, you kind of know anyway, going into a third round, like whether, you know, like you kind of know if you're up or not and you're just, your coach is kind of a really realistic with that anyway. Like also it's fighter dependent, but even if you are losing and you know you're losing, it's on you to force the action. Like it's not on them. They're doing exactly what they need to do. Like it's on you as the the

fighter that is losing the fight to force the action and get the finish but you know i think one thing that australia does really well is there is a governing body that controls mma in every single state so all the rules are the same and i think that there needs to be something like that here in the states because every state is different. Like every state has different rules. What you consider the downed opponent and a not downed opponent is different from state to state. So I think like having one governing body that governs all of MMA in the States and makes it unified, I think will help a lot of things. And we'll start putting processes in place to improve things and in the right direction. Yeah, I don't think you'll find anyone to argue with you there.

And I hope that the UFC tries out open scoring just as a WWE fan, as a wrestling fan, the drama of a five-round title fight being announced like it's tied up going into the fifth and final. Are we going to watch this champ defend their title or not we're gonna see you know championship gear out of whatever that seems awesome to me and that seems like just drama oh i agree and that's what shannon did a really good job of is like so she made it so that the commission showed the coaches but not the fighter so it was up to the coaches if they wanted to tell the fighter or not. So it was like a thing,

like a communication between the fighter and the coach going into the fight saying, Hey, like, do you want to know? Because obviously it's, it's definitely fighter by fighter dependent because some fighters, like you, you tell them that they're down two rounds, like they, they lose their shit like it all goes to shit but i think she did a really good job of having it so uh like the coaches knew but the fighters had the option of knowing based on like that communication with their coach by the way your dog what a bark from your dog right there that's that's a fighter's

animal right there i have a i have a little four-pound Yorkie, and I have a little six-pound long-haired Chihuahua. They don't bark like that. I have a 115-pound and 90-pound Rottweilers. Yeah, yeah, they don't bark like that. This has been a lot of fun. Before I get you out of here, I want to ask you for your top five quarantine snacks, five things that you can't live without during the quarantine. It's i don't know i'm asking everybody this question chocolate okay uh you know those lint chocolate oh yeah like l-i-n-d-t or whatever it is yeah i love guacamole i love

avocado so guac and chips would have to be in there that's what chase hooper said yep i'm allergic i'm allergic to to avocados so i can't i can't i'm so sorry i feel so sorry especially as a white person too it's like the most basic white person thing i could eat what else would i say i would say like snacks um like pr snacks. I love Pringles. Pringles are pretty fire. I would do like a, I don't know what else. I don't really eat. I don't really snack a lot. Like maybe some gummy bears. I think that would like some gummy form of candy. I think that would be pretty fun. And my last but not least,

my favorite margaritas, of course. Oh, margaritas. I like, I like pretty fun. And my last but not least, my favorite, margaritas, of course. Oh, margaritas. I like myself a nice virgin margarita, which is basically just like limeade. Megan, thank you so much for joining the live quarantine broadcast, this weird interview and this weird time. Stay safe, stay healthy, keep washing your hands, keep social distancing, and I'll talk to you soon And I'll talk to you soon. I will talk to you soon. Thanks, Robbie. All right, we're live.

We are here. It's my mom's basement. We're doing a live quarantine interview via Skype, via the internet, however you want to say. We're doing it via a site called StreamYard. I'm here with Chase Hooper, the youngest fighter in the UFC. He's 20 years old. He's 9-0-1. Chase, it's been a while since I've talked to you since that banana split you put me

in, and I got to tell you, I'm still a little bit sore. I'm glad. You're glad? I don't know. I hope I helped you out, you know, stretching you a little bit. Yeah, I'm definitely stretching. I'm going to try to get like prison jacked in the middle of this quarantine. You know, I'm going to just start trying to do pushups, sit ups, burpees, whatever in my tiny New York city apartment. I got a jump rope. So I'm trying to do like Muhammad Ali style, like do some sweet, like, Oh yeah. Yeah. So how are you holding up in this whole quarantine? It's a weird time right now. Are you training? Where are you living right now? You're in West Coast time, right? Yeah.

I'm in a little town called Edamclaw. We got a lot of like, it's like a pretty, I want to say more like conservative town, more like farming town. So like lots of people with guns and stuff. It's pretty chill though. So you don't have an issue with social distancing? Houses are very far away from each other?

More or less, yeah. And are you still training MMA? Are you still going to the gym? Are you able to train or no? Yeah, we're doing like, I guess I'm kind of breaking the whole fight club rule, but we're kind of doing fight club style. Oh, shit. Don't tell me any more about it. That sounds super cool. You shouldn't talk about that. fight club rule but we're kind of doing like fight club style like you know oh yeah don't

don't tell me any more about it that sounds that sounds super cool you shouldn't talk about that uh but how did you get into mixed martial arts originally if we bring it all the way back you're 20 years old now you know MMA was already basically a thing by the time you and I were born so it was a different world you getting into it than people 10 years ago even. Yeah, so my dad and my coach worked together. It was kind of the time when the last financial deal happened in 2008 or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they both got laid off at the same time, but it was right as my coach was opening his gym up. So my dad brought me in there, and I just kind of started training at like eight years old, I think, and kind of, you know, just stuck with it.

Did your dad have a mixed martial arts background or he was just like, hey, this could be something fun to get into? Yeah, no, he had no background at all. But, you know, he just thought it would be good to get me into some like self-defense type of stuff. And I kind of, you know, fell into it. Did you take to it immediately? Were you like instantly the best kid, you know, in your area, in your weight division, whatever? Yeah. Yeah. I'm pretty competitive. And I like started doing all the tournaments and stuff for jujitsu. And is that where you've focused like your original start? Jiu Jitsu would say.

Yeah. Yeah. More the grappling aspect. Yeah. Probably the majority of the tournaments I've been in, I've got first place, you know, as a little kid to now. So it's kind of, you know, it makes it easier to enjoy it. When you make it to the UFC, they always say about the MLB, you know, every player in the MLB was like the best pitcher in their town. I figure if you make it to the UFC, you're probably the best mixed martial artist in your town growing up when you're your age.

But when you're getting into all this, are you going into wrestling as well through high school or no? I did wrestling my seventh grade year, and I hated it. Really? What did you hate about it? It's just so much different than jiu-jitsu. You have to be athletic. Yeah. I'm not like a traditional athlete. So,

you know, what does that mean? You're not a traditional athlete. Like, I don't like running or like, you know, I'm not super jacked. Oh,

so the wrestling workouts and shit, you didn't like that kind of stuff you're saying? Yeah. And it was more like, gotcha. Let's make sure we're live here. All right, we're live. We are here.

It's my mom's basement. We're doing a live quarantine interview via Skype, via the internet, however you want to say. We're doing it via a site called StreamYard. I with chase hooper the youngest fighter in the ufc he's 20 years old he's nine oh and one chase it's been a while since i've talked to you that uh banana split you put me in and i gotta tell you still a little bit sore oh i'm glad uh you're glad i don't know i hope i helped you out you know stretching you a little bit yeah i'm definitely i'm definitely stretching i'm gonna try to get like prison jacked in the middle of this quarantine you know i'm gonna just start trying to do push-ups sit-ups burpees whatever

in my tiny new york city apartment i got a jump rope so i'm trying to do like muhammad ali style like do some sweet like oh yeah or something yeah so how are you holding up in this whole quarantine it's a weird time right now you know you are are you training where where are you living right now you and you're in west coast time right yeah uh i'm in a little town called the emplaw we got a lot of like it's like a pretty um i want to say more like conservative town you know more like farming town so like uh lots of people with guns and stuff um pretty chill though so you don't have an issue social distancing houses are very far away from each other more or less yeah um and are you still like training mma still going to the gym and are

you able to train or no yeah we're doing like, I guess I'm kind of breaking the whole fight club rule, but we're kind of doing like fight club style, like, you know, pretty much the way they are. Yeah, don't tell me any more about it. That sounds super cool. You shouldn't talk about that. But how did you get into mixed martial arts originally? If we bring it all the way back,

you're 20 years old now. You know, MMA was already basically a thing by the time you and I were born. So it was a different world, you getting into it, than people 10 years ago even. Yeah, so my dad and my coach, like, worked together. It was kind of the time when, like, the last financial deal happened in, like, 2008 or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they both got laid off at the same time, but it was like right as my coach was opening his gym up.

So my dad brought me in there and I just kind of started training at like eight, eight years old, I think. And kind of, you know, just stuck with it. Did your dad have a mixed martial arts background or he was just like, hey, this could be something fun to get into? Yeah, no, he had no background at all. But, you know, he just thought it would be good to get me into some, like, self-defense type of stuff. And I kind of, you know, fell into it. Did you take to it immediately? Were you, like, instantly the best kid, you know, in your area, in your weight division, whatever? Yeah.

Yeah, I'm pretty competitive. And I, like, started doing all the tournaments and stuff for jujitsu and uh is that where you you've focused like your original start jujitsu would say yeah yeah more the grappling aspect yeah probably the majority of the tournaments i've been in i've got first place you know as a little kid to now so it's kind of you know it makes it easier when you make it to the ufc they say about the MLB, you know, every player in the MLB was like the best pitcher in their town. I figure if you make it to the UFC,

you're probably the best mixed martial artist in your town growing up, like when you're your age, but when you're getting into all this, are you going into wrestling as well through high school or no? I did wrestling my seventh grade year and I hated it. So. Really? What did you hate about it? It's just so much different than jiu-jitsu. You have to be athletic. I'm not a traditional athlete.

What does that mean, you're not a traditional athlete? I don't like running. I'm not super jacked. Oh, so the wrestling workouts and shit, you didn't like that kind of stuff, you're saying? Yeah, and it was more like... you know, I'm not super jacked. Oh, so the wrestling workouts and shit, you didn't like that kind of stuff you're saying? Yeah. And it was more like, I don't know, like. Because like you're in the UFC saying you don't like wrestling seems crazy to me. Like you have to do it. I'm better with like, like MMA wrestling is better than like straight wrestling for me.

I'm sure a lot of people aren't going to be a fan of me saying that. But like, like it's kind of boring in comparison. Like I'm just trying to hold it. How would you, how would you differentiate for the people that don't know so wrestling is more uh it's more the stuff on the feet like you're just trying to take the guy down you're trying to hold him there and then you win um jiu-jitsu like is kind of that part but then you're trying to either you know like mangle the guy by ripping their arm off or like, you know, blowing their shoulder out. You're trying to, you know, choke them unconscious.

So it's kind of it's adding that extra little layer to it. Yeah, you like fighting towards a goal, it seems like you like fighting towards a choke instead of, I guess, a pinfall or something like that. I would agree is from at least a fan's perspective, wrestling is definitely harder on the viewer. It's harder for someone that doesn't know. Someone in the chat just said, your father, Ben, must be furious right now. They're probably right about that. So like you mentioned, you have a bit of a smaller build. People always say – they look at you and they say, look, Robbie,

you could be in the UFC. If you really get jacked like Chase Hooper did you have maybe a similar build I disagree with that because I stood next to you like what two months ago now yeah don't we don't really have a similar build but you do have a smaller build so what has that been like fighting as a guy with a smaller build for you your entire life uh I think it's easier because I'm skinnier for sure, but that just makes me longer, which makes it so much easier for the grappling stuff. I was going to say, are you all lanky?

Like when people are torquing on shit, are you hanging in there because you're lanky? Yeah, yeah, for sure. I'm pretty flexible too. So that definitely helps. But yeah, the longer build also helps for the striking. Like I can keep the guy at a distance. I don't have to like get into there.

Like I don't have to worry about being the guy that's aggressing. I can kind of like let the guy come to me. Totally. So another thing that I wanted to touch on, you came up through Dana White's Tuesday Night Contender Series. This was a while ago now. And you got a pretty impressive win there. You got the contract, but it was a developmental contract that they gave you. So take me through the whole process a little bit.

When you first get the call for Dana White's Tuesday Night Contender Series, you must be fucking jacked up. You're over the moon, I would imagine, right? Yeah. That one actually came after like a crazy fight. They gave me that offer. So I'd fought like the week before. And then so this was like exactly like one week after when the like mandatory medical suspension gets over with or whatever. Because you fight in the state, you have that.

So then I like I just got done doing my like morning jiu-jitsu stuff and i was just chilling at my house eating like triscuits with peanut butter and stuff you know just living alive and uh my folks called me up he was like hey do you want to fight tonight i was like oh fuck i guess um but we took the fight on two hours notice i i think i was like three you know at the time and the guy was like 14 and three or something so he was like a pretty uh yeah pretty veteran dude um and then i yeah i took that fight on short notice um it was a five round title fight actually and uh i went oh my god and i beat him and then uh a couple weeks later, they actually, Sean Shelby emailed me. He was like, hey, you want to be on Contender? And I said, of course, like 100%, I want to do it.

Did you even know you were on like their radar when you're taking that fight? Like you didn't even imagine in a million years that the UFC was paying attention, did you? No. By the time I got the offer for Contender, I was only a professional for like six months. Wow. So you get the win at the Contenderender series and then Dana signs you to a developmental contract. I think he called it where he said,

all right, we're, we want you in the UFC, but we're going to let you go continue to fight regionally for a little bit professionally. Uh, and then we'll, we'll bring you into the UFC.

Did that bum you out at all that you weren't immediately given the contract, given the circumstances of how like chaotic and frenziness it all seemed to be a little bit, but that's because I, uh, you know, like from getting punched in the head all the time during that fight, I didn't quite remember it as well as like, you know, when I watch it back, I'm like, okay, I wasn't ready for the UFC after that fight. I definitely needed some time. Um, and the developmental deal gave me that um i was definitely a little disappointing for sure but uh you know like my coach told me um you know i got the win i've you know got a ufc contract they want me they like me they want to build me up so it's you know better than getting thrown to the wolves or getting you know

tossed back out into the regional scene so yeah so now you would say that's definitely you're glad for that experience and and that you got more experience before making your debut. For sure. Having another like year and a half or something like that. Yeah. About a year and a half to kind of develop and like just get bigger as a human and like, you know, get more experience, get better.

All my skill sets. It was, it was great yeah so your actual ufc debut happened not too long ago got a very impressive win there as well and uh you were in like it seemed like i don't know if i want to call it trouble because i don't know i wasn't in the cage with you but you were in some precarious positions early that you wiggled out of and then you finished that fight i said like uh when you were like running off the cage wall to get out of something i said you were fighting like a little brother and then you finished that fight like a big brother you were like i'm fucking pounding

on you were you ever in the position in that fight where in your mind you're not problem solving but you're in panic mode or no not panic mode uh especially not with the grappling i think that happens a little bit if i get like rocked in a fight like in contender where i'm like oh like i'm not in control of my body anymore i'm kind of out of it um but with the grappling stuff i'm usually pretty at home it's pretty like uh i'm able to do it like pretty methodically kind of just scramble out and uh he was definitely squeezing pretty hard my neck was super sore after because he was just like he was a little jacked dude and he just kind of uh you know he's squeezing

as hard as he could but you got out of that you got a dominant win you made the call for an m&m m&m sponsorship afterwards with everyone loved you know that blew up on twitter obviously you being a 20 year old fighter not being able to go out in las vegas afterwards is very funny it's it's it's a funny like narrative and now it's taking off with the ufc fight pass stuff as well where they got you doing stuff for them you're interviewing fighters all the time you're doing like man on the street style stuff which seems to be really resonating with people you seem to be having fun with it how's that going yeah it's fun uh fight pass is great and they kind of um you know maybe they'll pitch some ideas and i'll just you know i'm not going to say no to whatever they tell me to do um so i'm just gonna do it hey guys cutting

in here with some bad news i actually was not able to get the end of this interview to transfer over into the audio file from the periscope for whatever reason don't ask why it was only a minute or two missing so i didn't think it was the biggest deal you can still find it on Periscope if you go to my Twitter at Robbie Barstool scroll down far enough or you go to barstoolsports.com type in Chase Hooper

and the video is in full on the site the video is also in full for that Megan Anderson interview if you would rather watch the video version so check those out if you would like again I'm sorry for that issue I will talk to you hopefully

before next week