My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 530 - DAVID DASTMALCHIAN IS BACK

Episode Date: October 12, 2026

David Dastmalchian joins Robbie once again to discuss playing M Bison in 'Street Fighter', the amazing ensemble cast and what working and hanging out with them has been like, how doing scenes with ton...s of extras reminds him of his theater background, the first time he ever saw 'The Dark Knight', and more! **************************************** My Mom's Basement is a weekly podcast hosted by Robbie Fox, started in March 2019, to discuss movies, music, comic books, wrestling, mixed martial arts, and more with his friends and idols alike! Subscribe on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-moms-basement/id1457255205 Follow Robbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatrobbiefox Follow Robbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieBarstool My Mom's Basement Merchandise: https://store.barstoolsports.com/collections/my-moms-basementYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners. You can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. All right, welcome back to My Mom's Basement, ladies and gentlemen. It is Robbie Fox, and I'm honored to be joined once again by David Dasmouch. And it's the third interview we've done together. Third time, like two years. The 2024 was the last time we did an interview for Late Night with the Devil.
Starting point is 00:00:22 Number one in your heart, though, right? Number one in my heart. And in a lot of the listeners' hearts, too. People love that first interview we did in here, the second interview on Zoom. interview. I'll never forget, man. We had a blast. And I was, it's cool because you're just like continued to do such cool stuff in your career. And I feel like at the, when I first came, you were like really like people were becoming aware of you. So it's awesome. I appreciate that. Yeah. And we were talking street fighter today. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Hell yeah. I assume most people know this is coming out because I feel like it's been everywhere. I don't think that's just the, I mean, in like the algorithm is like, we're in New York on seventh Ave right now and every taxi that passes. There's billboards of you as M. Bison and everything. Comic-Con is going on this week, so there's a lot extra. I will be in New York Comic-Con. I'm super psyched for that, man. I love New York Comic-Con. And I mean, I love Comic-Con's in general,
Starting point is 00:01:10 but, like, the New York one is so big-ass. And I mean, just in general, the press tour of Street Fighter seems like it's been as much fun, if not more fun, than shooting the movie for you guys? Because every interview I see with the whole cast, I'm like, oh, they're having a blast of each other. You're lucky when you're doing this job
Starting point is 00:01:25 and the people that you get to go to work with, we were just talking about Dexter, second ago. Like, I love the cast that I got to work with on Dexter Resurrection. Then we all got to go to, you know, we went to San Diego Comic Con together to promote the resurrection season one. We did all that stuff. When I am a part of a movie like Suicide Squad, you know, you're doing press junk. It's even the virtual ones. You get to hop in zooms with your friends. It's so fun. So for Street Fighter, one of the things I love so much about this movie and there's so much that I love about it is just the cast. Like this incredible. incredibly diverse, eclectic mix of weirdos from all different walks of life, put into this blender of Kitau, you know, Saccharized crazy imagination. And we all get to get back together and hang out again. I fucking love it. It's so fun. And it's all walks of life. You've got pro wrestlers. You've got MMA fighters. You've got comedians. You've got actors. You've got rappers. You've got 50 cents in the movie. Like one of the big is the best of all time. I mean, he is on the Mount Rushmore
Starting point is 00:02:29 of hip-hop stars. And you've got Cody and Joe, aka Roman Raines. These guys are absolute legends, contemporary superstars in the world of professional wrestling. You've got Orville Peck, not only like one of the most, you know, like popular voices in country western music,
Starting point is 00:02:50 but also this like icon. Yeah. You know, you've got a true persona. Noah Centenero, who is just like a true movie star. Like you see his stars. just exploding. Andrew Koji, who's a badass real martial artist,
Starting point is 00:03:03 who's done everything from, you know, Warrior all the way down. He's always a badass in his stuff. Oh, my God. Think about Olivier, the Dutch giant, that motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:03:13 He is a... He came out the womb as he was born to play this role. He is our whole cast. UFC champ, Alexander Volcanowski's in the movie. Dude. Yeah. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:03:26 And, and I whoop. I whoop. a joke right now. I'm not starting beef with you, Alexander. You're a very strong guy who knows how to knock people out with like your pinky. So we got Mamoa, who I actually met and worked with on Dune. We, uh, Duncan Idaho. We made a film together years, it's been years now and ago. And we had, I love that guy, man. I'm so excited to get to be back together in a film with him and what he does with his Blanca is so much fun. I would watch like a reality show about you guys on this
Starting point is 00:03:59 Presto. I feel like it's almost on a bus. Put us on like a tour bus. Just going cross country, going from amusement park to amusement park to amusement park. You know, speaking of amusement parks, one of the weirdest,
Starting point is 00:04:13 wildest, strangest times, and there's one very important person. There's so many important people in the group that I haven't even listed yet. But one of them, one of the wildest personalities of the group, because you've also got Andrew Schultz,
Starting point is 00:04:24 who's huge in your space when it comes to like being able to just have, have long conversations with people. He's so funny, obviously. But Eric, I mean, Eric Andre is like a hero at my house. My kids, I'm a bad parent. I let my kids watch all kinds of Eric Andre's show episodes. Of course, I also have let my kids watch all the jackass movies and episodes.
Starting point is 00:04:47 But we were in Sydney, Australia, and we were filming this movie, and we're having such a great time. And 50 Cent ends up surprising all of us. and he books out Luna Park. There's a Luna Park in Sydney and there's a Luna Park in Melbourne, Australia. I've been to both of them. My family and I love them.
Starting point is 00:05:06 They're these old school. It's like going to Coney Island, the rickety roller coasters. You don't know if it's a death trap, but it's a blast. And he booked the whole place from like 6 p.m. until late. They, they, we had full access.
Starting point is 00:05:19 It was our park. All the snack bars. All the candy, all the treats. Everything was open. All the rides were open. It was just for us and our families and our crew. and our friends, dude, that was nuts. That's what you dream about when you're a kid.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Me and Cody Rhodes, like getting on a crazy-ass roller coaster together. Me and Eric Andre doing bumper cars together with 50 cent. Like, are you kidding me? I did bumper cars with 50 cents. What is my life? It's amazing. Cody Rhodes is actually a mutual friend. Way back in the day when I was in high school, I was reaching out to Cody trying to design his gear.
Starting point is 00:05:53 And I eventually made a breakthrough, and I drove him to a couple independent wrestling shows. When he left the WWE, decided to kind of forge his own path, I would drive him around a little bit. He would call me Robbie Rhodes, tell people I was his cousin. Wow. And still to this day, we'll talk about Star Wars and a bunch of nerdy stuff. He's the best. He is the best, dude. He's so on it.
Starting point is 00:06:12 He's just, and he knows his shit. He loves Street Fighter. His guile is destruction, dude. He's so funny in this role. He does such a crazy awesome take on guile. Obviously, you see how committed he is to the bit with that hair. Yeah, the guy has been guile for a while. He lives in style of guile constantly, and he's crazy for it, and I love the guy.
Starting point is 00:06:36 We bonded almost instantaneously. Like I said, next thing I know, we're sitting in the mousetrap roller coaster together, which is like, looks like a little, like out of a cartoon, when you see like a little kid gets stuck in an old-fashioned bathtub, it's basically just a few feet long and like two feet wide, two giant dudes crammed in there so unsafe it's not even funny i can't i mean it was almost like it was almost a tragedy but uh yeah and and and i just did a bunch of press with um with jo roman um that was a blast uh yes so kickas how quickly did you tell them about the hyper hot dog very quickly in fact i was doing an interview the other day and joe didn't know about it
Starting point is 00:07:23 So he talked about it. Cody knows because we talked about it. He came on my show, Grave Conversations at one point, and we talked all about the hyper hot dog versus the selfish celery of the backyard barbarians. That was me and my brother's wrestling federation when we were kids. We were talking special moves. We were talking finishers, all of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:43 I love it. I love Grave Conversations as well. I'm a huge man. Kevin Smith episodes, so good. James Gunn, Aaron Moriarty. So many great episodes of that. Saturday Sherman really funny at one. fuck we had
Starting point is 00:07:54 Neil deGrasse Tyson right after is weird Al Yankovic yeah you know right after that it's like the the the variety of people that I have been able to get to come and do the show and the level of talent and just some people I don't know
Starting point is 00:08:11 most of the people are my friends because that's how it kind of works like I just reach out to my friends I'm like could you do this on this day and because we can only we have to like book it out and plan it in advance it's really hard to schedule everything but it's like We'll try and bang out like 10 in a row. So we do five one day, five the next day, and then we go on and then we wait until the next date.
Starting point is 00:08:29 We can gather everybody. And my friend Elon, who produces the show, he's one of my best friends, and he's so smart and he's so great at producing. He's actually, I'm very happy for him. He produced this new season of Mike Flanagan's series, Kerry. Yeah, so it just came out. So good. It's such a good show. In fact, Flanagan was, I think, my very first guest on the show.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Mike Flanagan, his wife, Kate Siegel, and Matthew Lillard were my first three guests on grave conversations. But anyway, Elon will pull some people that he knows, but most of the time it's like my friends. And then when they get in there and they're willing to like, you know, get down and talk about stuff that is, obviously we have a lot of fun with it. And we try to be goofy and let people talk about whatever project they want to be promoting. but you do get into some of the hairier stuff when it comes to thinking about like end of life and death and how can we make it more normal to just talk about these things. Because most of the times people talk about the way like death and all that is either through movies or when they're at church or something like that. But like how do you just like talk about it in a pragmatic way or the whatever, all the feelings that go around it? And getting to do the show is like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Obviously I'm a spooky dude who sleeps in a coffin. So it makes no, it makes complete sense, I should say. But it was a no-brainer. But I wasn't, I wasn't, I didn't foresee the like emotional psychological impact that it would have on me. And that feeling of like purpose that it really does make me feel really grateful. Every time we wrap up, especially in an episode where we go somewhere deep, you know, Katie Thurston's episode is like very powerful. getting to have somebody come and be gracious and generous enough with her time that she's in stage four, you know, cancer and will talk to me about what is it like thinking about what does death look like, feel like, how do you prep for stuff like this? It's like it's wild, man. Well, you're such a great interviewer because I feel like a lot of the conversations are more conversational than, you know, you're not like doing a late night show with these people.
Starting point is 00:10:40 It's more, it sounds like you having a conversation with your friends. I'm not a great interview. You're a great interview. Oh, stop it. But speaking of late night, I appreciate your love of late night with the devil. Love late night with the devil. One of my favorite projects ever do. It's like every time I do these new movies and I just pinch myself, I know the time is coming where I'm going to do one of these things.
Starting point is 00:11:02 And it's, and I'm not going to like it. And, boy, that's inevitable. That's like math and statistics. But, like, I'm so proud of late night with the devil. It's such a, like, it's such an incredible. memory for me making it, releasing it, the way people responded to it. And as you know, like, I've just had so much luck. I've been so lucky in my career.
Starting point is 00:11:23 I've gotten to work on so many cool things with so many cool people. I've gotten to tell so many kick-ass stories. I'm a nerd. I grew up loving this stuff, but also so many properties from Marvel to DC all the way across the board, you know, manga stuff. I love One Piece. I got to be a part of the live action one piece with video games now. One of the greatest video games of all time, Street Fighter.
Starting point is 00:11:42 I get to be a part of that movie. It's just, it's so cool. I'm so lucky. It's awesome. If you haven't seen Late Night with the Devil, a perfect October watch. It's Halloween. It's so many people around Halloween. My brother got on it.
Starting point is 00:11:54 I showed it to my fiancee. She loved it. I'm like a late night with the devil. I'm not. Jack Delray is so good. Yes. Street Fighter, I haven't seen it yet, but from the trailers, from all the marketing material,
Starting point is 00:12:04 it seems like such a stylized movie in both like the tone and the cast and the visuals. Was that pitched to you? Is that something that you could really get when you're reading the script? When is that tone coming through? Tone is everything to me, everything. So earlier we're talking about Jason Mamoa and how we met on the movie Dune. One of the lead producers of the film Dune from legendary pictures is a brilliant producer named Kale Boyd or Kale. He's done, you know, the Minecraft movies, the Dune movies.
Starting point is 00:12:39 He's done so much stuff. He's so successful. He's so talented. but he was putting together street fighter and I guess my name came up somehow in conversation because Qatow was talking about his vision for what he wanted Bison to function as in this film and that I was a choice for this role and so he reached out to me, cailed it first because I know him personally and we started talking just catching up shooting the shit And then we're talking about Street Fighter.
Starting point is 00:13:13 And I was like, dude, I love Street Fighter. Also, I love Ke Tao Sakurai, because I know his work from the Eric Andre show or Bad Trip. Bad Trip is so good. So good. Yeah, so good. But I was like, I go, what, what it, you know, like, because it's a big, for Kill, for it to hire a director for a movie like this. It's like he know, they know exactly who is the perfect person to do these films, right? to do any of the films that they produce.
Starting point is 00:13:43 And he said to me, just wait to you meet this guy. He is a tone master. Ketal, before we even at our first conversation, sent me this beautiful digital presentation that he'd created for his vision of what street fighter was going to look and feel like. And he had used images of me in there as his like M. Bison.
Starting point is 00:14:04 And the color palette, the vibrancy, the energy, the way I could see his, like this uniform, that he had for this concept of a vision of a 90s, just balls to the wall, over the top, super stylistic action, crazy film was like, I just, I knew it. I could feel the musicality to it.
Starting point is 00:14:25 He had listed the songs that he wanted. It just looks like so much fun. Much fun. Yeah. And so we met, we started talking, and he walked me through all of that stuff. And I, and I just, I can't state enough times.
Starting point is 00:14:37 If there's a director out there listening to this, like being able to communicate and they tone and help your actors understand and all of your designers understand what it is that you're shooting for when it comes to the tone of a film you can get that musicality into people's bones then everything can feel authentic even doing something as ridiculous as a you know a crazy finishing move in a wild spectacular bombastic you know world warrior tournament all of it can feel to the audience like very authentic and it can be fun it can feel like it can feel like you know, it doesn't feel lame or cheesy or like a cash grab because you're really invested in it,
Starting point is 00:15:17 you know, and he is the biggest street fighter fan. He talked to me all about the way he wanted the movie to feel, that there is a hard razor-cut line of comedy that goes through it, which I think is always a great element, especially when it comes to horror and, you know, high-stakes action drama. but he also helped me a lot in tone because I said to him, dude, you know one of the greatest dreams of my life is to be like a super villain in a film. I've always dreamt of being a Sith Lord or a Bond villain. You know, I had always dreamt of playing Dr. Doom. Of course, there's this other actor who's not too shabby who apparently got the job.
Starting point is 00:16:01 I heard that role was cast, yeah. I think he's going to do okay. But I said, you know what drives me crazy, man? You see a dude in a big badass costume and a big badass layer and a big badass fortress surrounded by these big badass superpowers and all this stuff. And there's just always, in every movie, this like color-matched, like, army of foot soldiers in their matching uniforms that all just are like, they're basically like fodder. Like you know there's going to be 50 of them are going to fight the hero and never get, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:30 never beat them. There's like, it's like it's NPCs and games. games, although they're playing. They're like, you're like the throwaway character. I was like, how do we, that's so boring to me. How do we engage with and justify Bison having this army, this, this, this cult of followers who believe so much in Shatteloo and what he's trying to do with his life and with his work in the world that they will be standing at attention throughout every scene, ready to jump
Starting point is 00:16:56 into action in any scene, and a bunch of them kicking so much ass throughout every scene. And we talked a lot about that and we went kind of deep diving. on it thinking about cult leaders like David Koresh or like like dictators especially like the Edia means these big cults of personality who were able to like move entire countries armies you know it's it's wild so so that was another way in which I felt like Kital really just just totally nailed tone with me and helped me like get deeply in there so I could logically play through all the stuff that I'm going to do the film while at the same time
Starting point is 00:17:36 hopefully making it very fun and big and it's like a video game come to real life, you know? Yeah. What's it like working with that many extras in a scene? I saw an interview with you talking about this where you said you wanted to really engage them and you were asking them about what their character motivation may be because they're on set for a really long time.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Do you enjoy doing scenes in front of a lot of extras or does it add pressure of like all these people are watching me deliver my lines or not at all? It's a great feeling because when I started my career as a theater actor in Chicago and I was trying to make extra money, I also desperately wanted to be on the set of films or anything to do with cameras. So I always signed up through the union to do background work as an actor. So it was mostly always commercials, but I would sit there for, you know, 12, 13 hours on an on the border commercial or a Chase commercial. That's my first job on the border. Was it really?
Starting point is 00:18:30 It was the chipper. Oh, my God. I delivered the chips and salsa. I was so excited. I was getting paid to sit in the back and just eat. All these people are like zoned out. But it's a tough job being a background actor. You're there all day.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Most of them are people that want to be in the entertainment industry or actors. But some are not. Some are just like they like movies. They're a teacher or they're whatever. And they like to go and make a little extra bread. And it's being on set as fun for them. So I wanted to be respectful when we're on set of street fighter because there's now dozens of background actors all in these kick-ass uniforms.
Starting point is 00:19:03 standing still rigidly at attention because they're my soldiers and I was like, you know, I don't want to put more work on them. Maybe they just want to be left alone. Maybe they just want to stand there. But I started to kind of feel it out and just make small talk with these men and women and just kind of like engage and be like. And I realized that all the people that we did have on this shoot were people that were actually engaged and wanted to participate as much as they could. So my thought was like basically, you know, Bison has a totally fucked up like childhood story that I've been working on with Capcom and the people because I'm also writing a graphic novel about the origins of Bison and where he comes from. But his kind of entry into the martial arts and just the world in general is really messed up. and he ends up having to really fight for himself and survive and make really tough choices
Starting point is 00:20:02 in which sometimes harming others or destroying or killing people to be able to survive or to be able to advance was just necessary. And so then he starts to see the potential of how much further he could go if he wasn't following all the basic rules and laws of what we've kind of accepted in our society. So he's going on this journey. He ends up realizing that, okay, maybe illegal activities like drug smuggling or weapons smuggling or human trafficking are like just part of a necessary mechanism in the forwarding of the evolution of these ideas that he's
Starting point is 00:20:40 developing about breaking us down to our animal natures and then finding the power within us and knowing that there are powers in the world of street fighter outside of just you know normal science and physics there's there are these mystical powers that exist out there and if you can possess them, you would have the ability to do so much more. And he thinks we're all capable of that. So he needs a place to do that. And as he's accrued all this well through his development of this criminal enterprise, he finds this like kind of destitute island nation state and shows up there and all these people are just hungry. They just want to feed their families. They just want to be able to like feel a sense of agency and identity. And he starts
Starting point is 00:21:27 teaching them what he's learned and he uses this island because it's outside of kind of the view of most you know countries and they start casinos and all these operations and wealth starts coming in and all these people start to be able to feel a sense of empowerment and wealth they can feed their families there's a future for them and he starts to teach him that beyond the laws of man there is a shadow law it's like the next level of our evolution and that's how I came up with this world of shadowloo in the movie and all that's the these people. So I talked to them about that and be like, how rough were things before you join this organization? How much better are things for your life now? What do I represent to you in this
Starting point is 00:22:06 promise that I've made to all them that doing things the way I've told them they can do them gives them this power, the power of the psycho power that is supposedly within me? And then the hook and the catch as you watch the film, you realize I promised all these people this thing and I still haven't been able to acquire the psycho power. And so now I'm destined to and I'm going insane because I know if they all find out that I'm full of shit that my whole empire is going to collapse. So that's why I bring all these warriors together because I know if I can trap them in one place and I can use the technology I've been developing.
Starting point is 00:22:41 I can steal it from them and I can finally have the cycle power. But all these extras, I would, we would, I mean, again, I would be like, I don't want to buggy. If you want to just chill and play, you know, Angry Birds on your phone, please do it. I'm not trying to tell you what you got. But they all were so cool, and they were totally down to like, let's talk about what's your animal? What kind of if you were going to imbue a form of like, you know, martial arts into the work you're doing? What would it be?
Starting point is 00:23:09 And they really dug it. And they make me look more powerful on screen. When you're a badass dictator sitting there on set and you've got a bunch of kick-ass dolls in their kick-ass uniforms with their weapons or a bunch of my foot soldiers for Shattalooo Army. standing around. They bring so much to my performance. And I just wanted to thank them every day because I was like, you guys make me look even more badass. You know,
Starting point is 00:23:38 the costumes do so much work. The sets do so much work. The hair and makeup does so much work. It's awesome. Yeah. I did that for the first time this year. I signed up when I saw like New Jersey.com. I was like,
Starting point is 00:23:51 hey, Steven Spielberg needs people with cars for his new movie. This was, I guess last year. I was like, Fuck it. I got a car. Let me see if I could get it. Disclosure Day. Oh, dude. So I got to be on set. You're in Disclosure Day. For a split second in the corner of the screen. You went to the theater.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Yes. Did you catch yourself? Did you see it? You knew exactly where I was. I did like the Rick Dalton like pointed the screen. And it's, we did two, two overnight shoots in New Jersey and 15 hours the first day, 14 hours the next day. All the scenes got cut. But they used like security cam footage from one of the scenes. So I got to see myself. But the first day I'm on set, I see Spielberg. are this close to me and that was like a pinch me moment. But I was wondering the whole time what Spielberger, what the actors would think of,
Starting point is 00:24:33 oh, there's 250 background extras on set. The whole time I'm just trying to be as respectful as possible. Not really look at people. Like if I made eye contact with Spielberg, I'd be, oh, sorry. And I just, the whole time was like, what do these people think about this? Like Josh O'Connor's doing his lines. Is he feeling like, man, I'd better get these out
Starting point is 00:24:49 because there's 250 extras in this room right now. I come from a theater background. Remember, like, I started in Chicago. in fact in Kansas City, in community theater, and then Chicago on professional stages and in college on stage. And I love acting so much,
Starting point is 00:25:04 and I love performing, and I love being in the theater. And so when you're on set and you have a huge crowd around you, a background artist, even when you're on a huge crew day and there's tons of people to me, it's like being in the theater.
Starting point is 00:25:17 I love it. It's so fun. It's so cool. And there's so many examples of times I can think about in movies where, yeah I got to be surrounded by just like a huge crowd of of a background and they've always added so much to the scenes. I remember in the movie Prisoners, there's like a, there's like a memorial, not memorial, but like a vigil they're having with the hopes that we can find these kids who've been kidnapped.
Starting point is 00:25:44 And my character, Bob Taylor, who's a victim of the kidnapper who is still striking, is trying in his own weird kind of fucked up way to help because he's trying to solve the mystery of the maze that he's been lost in since he was a little kid. So he shows up at this vigil and he's trying to gain clues and also energy and he wants to be there, but he also is terrified that he's going to get caught. And I remember just being around all these background artists and nobody really knew what was necessarily going on. And I just felt like I was really in a crowd of people where at any second I could just get caught. That was such a cool feeling. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:26 That's awesome. The last time you were in here, we were talking a lot about the dark night. It's my favorite movie. Oh my God, my first time on a movie said a thousand background artists, dude. Yeah. I'm not joking. I want to say five or 600 cops in uniform doing the big parade because we've got this very big funeral parade for the mayor who's been killed. and you've got the
Starting point is 00:26:55 all the extras of people who are playing like press and just street walk you know people from you know pedestrians blah blah and it's it's just incredible dude i'd never seen anything like that my life so i just had my bachelor party nice and all i wanted to do is rent out of private theater for me my friends my family and just watch the dark night so that's what we did we got a you know private theater did a nice dinner and then did the dark night afterwards i was curious because I didn't ask you about this last time about your first time watching the Dark Night.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Do you remember what that was like? When you were on, when you were having your party, you're with all your friends and family, watched the movie and my scene came up. Did you go, I interviewed that guy? I did. I did. Yeah. Anybody else from the movie?
Starting point is 00:27:39 Anybody else from the movie that you've interviewed? No. I'm it. You're it. You're the only one. I could stop here. That's right. You're done.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Yeah. You don't need anymore. So you do the movie. you're convinced you suck which used to be the you know the really like negative inner voice that I used to have was always like just sure that I shit the bed
Starting point is 00:28:02 and like convinced that I did a bad job sure that it's going to get cut sure that it's not going to make the final film and then they I didn't get to go to like the premiere anything but they did have a like cast and crew local Chicago screening at a theater
Starting point is 00:28:19 by the river north, right near where the second city theater is in Chicago, kind of in like Old Town. And so I went, I was doing a play. We finished the play performance, which was, we were performing at the Red Orch at Theater,
Starting point is 00:28:37 which is Michael Shannon and Brett Nebue's a bunch of other awesome artist theater company. And I walked up to this screening. And I sat in this crowd, a bunch of people I didn't know, you know. and one of the producers actually showed up and gave a really nice speech before and thanked us all for our work on the film
Starting point is 00:28:55 and then we started watching the movie and I was like, the whole time I was just gripped on knowing like don't be upset, don't be upset when your stuff is cut. Like don't worry, don't worry, you're going to be okay. It's going to suck, but it's going to happen. I know it's going to happen. And then the scene came up
Starting point is 00:29:10 and I saw myself on this giant movie theater screen in a fucking Batman movie. I'm a dude who's been collecting Batman comics since I was a kid and has loved movies since I was a little boy. I see you with Harvey Dent. I mean, and The Joker is my all-time, probably favorite fictional character maybe ever created. And I'm his henchman and I'm on this integral plot point crazy twist scene. And it looked fake to me.
Starting point is 00:29:40 It's hard to describe. I had a disassociative moment where it almost looked like a home video. Like my mom had filmed it on. like a camcorders. I was like that and even when it was done, I was still on, I was, I couldn't believe because it didn't feel like it went with the rest of the movie to me. Because it was such a, yeah. It was such a surreal experience in the time since then.
Starting point is 00:30:04 And I, by the way, went back and saw it probably like four or five times in the movie theater when it was still playing. I, I would sit, I would sit. I've been sitting in movies my whole life. I sit in theaters since I was. a tiny kid, and the trailers would play, and then the studio credit,
Starting point is 00:30:24 like the opening credit would come, and if it was, you know, MGM and the Lion, or if it was Universal Studios, Warner Brothers. I used to sit and watch that and think and dream and be like, could you imagine someday being in a movie
Starting point is 00:30:39 where one of those big credits plays? And it, fuck, it was happening to me. And I was just like, and in the time since the dark, night came out. I've gotten to a place that I really enjoy you. We're talking about late night with the devil. I love getting to go and see something I'm proud of that I got to work on and having that experience in a cinema where there's people having reactions. I want to do it with street fight. I want to just go show up in movie theaters and see it. I did it with late night with the devil. We'd surprise
Starting point is 00:31:11 people sometimes and show up. I didn't get to do it sadly because it was the pandemic and the whatever people who were in charge of making decisions decided to put it right on HBO because they're trying to launch their new streaming service. So Suicide Squad and Dune both did not get theatrical releases. Two of my biggest movies I've ever done in my career were straight on home streaming. And I was always sad that I never got to see the Suicide Squad like on a big screen with an audience or Dune on a big screen with an audience. I feel like that would have been pretty kick-ass. Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:31:49 All right, that's our time. I appreciate you, as always. No-oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're going to go over to Project Pixar and great people. I don't want to go anywhere else. Don't promote other shows on this show. No, good people, good people.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Grave conversations. Great conversation, yes. It's great to see you again. Congrats on continuing to do all the great work. Congrats on your engagement. Thank you. I hope you love Street Fighter, dude. I'm so excited to see it.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Yeah, I'm stoked. Thanks. October 16th, everybody.

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