My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 71 - JACK "TANK" SHORE

Episode Date: July 27, 2020

Robbie is joined by undefeated UFC Bantamweight Jack "Tank" Shore today to discuss fighting on Fight Island, debuting at only 16 or 17 years old, and most importantly - Jack's love for OASIS! It's a great time! 3Chi: Use code BASEMENT at checkout to receive 5% off at 3Chi.com My Mom's Basement Merch: https://store.barstoolsports.com/products/my-moms-basement-tie-dye-hoodieYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. I've got an interview with Jack Shore, who recently picked up an awesome win over on Fight Island. He tells me about the entire experience. We get into a bunch of Oasis talk afterwards, because he walks out to Supersonic, and that's how this whole interview started. Before we get into that, let me tell you about 3Chi. Once again,

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and also had a pretty fucking awesome walkout tune, which we're going to get to that in a bit. Just for starters, how are you doing, Jack? Yeah, I'm good, mate. I'm obviously back in the UK now, so it was a long old journey from deep in the valley in Wales, you know, up to London, to Abu Dhabi, and finally back. So good to be back, happy with the performance, and obviously nice to be back in the fight then, obviously. Yeah, you got to be happy with that performance, right? It seemed like you went in there and executed the game plan perfectly.

You've had the full Fight Island experience. You know, you've gone out there, you've gotten tested a thousand times, I'm sure. You had the quarantine where you self-quarantined in your hotel room for a while. You fought, you got the win, you came back. What was in your hotel room for a while. You fought. You got the win. You came back. What was the full experience like, the Fight Island experience for you? Yeah, it was obviously very different to your usual fight week.

As you said, up to London for two days, tested and quarantined. Obviously, you spend a day there and travel to Abu Dhabi to be tested again and, you know, spend another 48 hours locked in a hotel room quarantined. And so it's not your usual fight week, you know. It was tough in the sense of, you know, having to do all our training on a balcony or in the hotel room, obviously. You know, couldn't really run, couldn't really wrestle or grapple or anything like that. It was sort of just pad works and little circuits and stuff. But, I mean, it was definitely an experience

that is one I'm glad I ticked off the list. You know, obviously, when things go back to normal and the crowds are allowed in, obviously, the fight island

may not happen again. So it was great to be able to say I was one of those fighters that, you know, stepped up and fought during the global pandemic. But, you know, all in all, you can't fault the UFC

and what they put together out there. Everyone on the island is there for the fighters, doing everything they can to make our life as easy as possible. And that can be a tricky thing to do when you're obviously stuck in quarantine. But overall, it was a crazy experience, fighting in front of no fans, silent arena. You know, it was like a little marquee tent.

It wasn't even really to call it an arena. It's not even really an arena. It was like a canopy with a cage and a rig inside. So it was definitely one I won't forget anytime soon. Was it bizarre fighting in the middle of the night? Because you were on the prelims, right? So it was literally, did you have to wake up at a bizarre time? Did you have to keep yourself on one particular sleeping schedule?

What was that like? Yeah, so from the, I thought I think it was around 3.30 a.m. Abu Dhabi time. So from the minute we landed in Abu Dhabi, we sort of set our sleeping pattern, you know, to align with the fight time. So I was sort of getting up in the afternoon, sorry, the afternoon,

sorry, late afternoon, around 4, 5 p.m., and then going to bed around 5, 6 a.m. in the morning. So it was like a sleep through the day, awake and training at night sort of thing. Because I'm one of those guys, where I fought main event on cage wars and stuff like that, I'm used to being awake a solid 10, 12 sort of 12 hours before I fight and I like to sort of carry that routine on if I can you know in the UFC despite being first I wanted to make sure that I was awake you know fairly early and I had plenty of time to come around but at the

same time I wanted to make sure that you know I wasn't going in there tired and ready for bed so from the minute we landed we got on that sort of time zone and it was difficult you know because it's not easy as anyone knows you know trying to when you're used to sleeping through the night and being awake through the day to switch that up completely then for a week it was tough but um all credit uh to my coaching team you know they devised like a sleeping plan and we had it bang on like i felt obviously i didn't feel like i needed to go to bed by the time fight come around yeah i'm sure afterwards too you were probably frigging fired up, ready to stay up through the rest of the night, right? Yeah, that was it.

Like, you know, the last day was sort of the only day that I was awake through the day because I was that fired up and the adrenaline was pumping. I mean, I think I fought, like I said, I got up in the cage by the time I did the media, it was around probably 4, 4.30 a.m. I didn't sleep then until I go back in the UK. So I went straight was around probably 4 4 30 a.m um i didn't sleep then till that i go back in the uk so i went straight up to the pool at 10 a.m got picked up for the for the airport at 2 p.m stayed awake then uh all the way till i go back from uk time and uh and slept in the night so i've been up awful early these last couple of days just when my body clocks used to uh you know my body calls it what are doing? Go to sleep when it's like time. Yeah, fuck. I hope you've slept before this interview.

Jesus Christ, man. How did you get into fighting? This is a question that I ask a lot of fighters. I'm just interested in everyone's kind of origin stories when it comes to this. So I started kickboxing, actually, as I was six years of age. And I think it was more of a, you know, my parents, my father did a little bit of training in judo and stuff like that I think it was more of a you know my parents my father did a little bit of training in judo and stuff like that but he was never like a lifelong martial

artist I think he just got me into the kickboxing you know just to teach me a bit of discipline as a kid you know a bit of structure and just to keep me active I think as a kid and it really just took off from there I trained at the kickboxing gym for sort of six years and then when I was 12 years of age my father would also join the gym around about the same time as me, where I was just doing the kickboxing. He was doing like your traditional jiu-jitsu and, you know, a very early form of MMA, you know. And then 12 years of age, so like 2007,

he decided to go on his own and open his own gym. And that was truly then when I got into the grappling and MMA side of things. I just proceeded with that training. There's a guy at Welsh Down in the UFC, Jack Marshman. He's about six years older than me and I trained with Jack from when I was a kid. We've all been here a long time at the same gym.

It just naturally progressed. Being in the gym you naturally want to compete. You naturally gravitate towards wanting to do what your teammates are doing. I had my first fight at 16 or 17, I think. It's just been ongoing from there. Between jiu-jitsu competitions, amateur boxing, amateur MMA, pro MMA, I've been competing on and off probably 12 years now. I'm very experienced in competition for a young guy.

Yeah, clearly. You're 13 and 0 2 and 0 in the UFC is fighting when you're 16 or 17 having that first fight where your nerves through the roof or were you confident about it I would it was a little bit of a surreal situation because obviously where I'd grown up watching it so much and you know even though I was young the older kid the older guys at the gym would obviously have the amateur and their pro fights and my father being the coach he would always take me along to the shows so I was sort of used to the set-up of seeing the boys do

their pre-fight medical, getting their hands wrapped. So when I actually stepped in to do it myself I was nervous obviously but I sort of had a feel for it already despite never having a fight and to be honest I attribute that down to as well, because I've been competing in like jiu-jitsu and amateur boxing stuff like that from so young I think the days of me getting nervous before a fight are sort of gone because

I'm not I used to competition now it's almost like a second nature to me to be honest so when people say to me about pre-fight nerves and I say you know I don't get too nervous I know a lot of people probably don't believe me but uh i'm being genuine you know you get your butterflies and your adrenaline rush but as far as like nervous you know as in being scared or worried that doesn't ever seem to factor in and i can't really remember a time where it did so perhaps i'm just lucky i'm one of them guys who doesn't doesn't feel as bad as as some of the others you know i mean that shows why you're on that side of the cage and why i'm on this side of the cage um the reason we set this interview up, though, we got to get to it. I saw on Twitter the next day.

So I watched the whole fight card, obviously. I missed your walkout somehow. I don't know if it wasn't on the broadcast. I don't know what it was. But I get a couple tweets the next day. And everyone says, Robbie, you got to see this video. Jack walked out to Supersonic. And everyone knows I'm a massive Oasis fan.

Everyone knows this from Twitter or whatever. And I watched the video and I was just, it gave me chills, man. That video of Dana walking into the arena, right? Because it's so perfect. You kind of hear it muffled like it's a concert venue. He opens up the door and you hear the fucking drums coming in big heavy. Through this door. And then one more door

we are inside the arena i gotta talk oasis with you man we're gonna spend the rest of this interview talking about oasis how'd you get into the band are you a massive fan fan? I assume you are. Yeah. So I've been, I've been a massive fan for probably like the sort of last four or five years, but subconsciously I think I was a fan anyway, because Oasis was obviously my father's era, you know, like the nineties. My father is a massive, massive sort of indie music fan from the nineties and thinking, I mean, it's like a subconscious memory, but thinking back, I can always remember Oasis being on in the car.

You know, I've always, like, when I first got into the band, I would hear these songs and my friends would be like, listen to this one. And I'd listen to it. I'd be like, I know this song, but I don't know the name of the song. I know this song. So it all probably goes back, it probably got my old man to think, to thank, sorry, in essence,

for playing it in the car when I was a kid. But I mean, going back a couple of years, it was sort of when Liam Gallagher first came back on, because the scene as a solo artist was when I really, you know, became a fan. Because again, I haven't listened to them as a kid with my old man. I was like, I know Liam Gallagher. I remember Liam Gallagher from Oasis. And then he started putting music out. He started performing. He was doing, you know, doing all the classic Oasis and then he started putting music out he started performing he was doing you know doing all the classic Oasis songs and straight away

you know I do my girlfriend's edit because constantly in the car in the Oasis constantly you know always talking about

Liam Giles I'm like look where he's tweeted look at this look at this I am slowly but surely trying to convert everyone around me

to be an Oasis fan as well and I've been to watch Liam twice and no once in Cardiff so it's definitely. I've been to watch Liam twice and Noel once in Cardiff so it's definitely ones I've ticked off the list but obviously

it would be a lot better if they performed together so I could go in there so you know why I've seen it. Even if they just do the one tour, that would be the dream for me to go watch them live together. God, I feel like we're the exact same person when you're saying all this. The exact same way. It's so funny you're saying all this. I'm the exact same way.

It's so funny you're talking about telling everyone the Liam Gallagher thing, the Liam Gallagher thing. I'm the same way. Mad for it, as they say. So do you go definitely, maybe, or what's the story? That's an easy question for me. It's a real toss-up. Yeah.

Again, like you said, they're both classic. There's not a bad song or song on either album but instantly when someone asks me what's your favorite album all time for whatever reason instantly what's the story morning glory just pops into my head straight away and that's without even even thinking of it you know there's probably certain songs on definitely maybe i prefer but when someone says like pick up if you had to pick one album to listen to the rest of your life it's what's the story morning glory every day of the week dude i feel you on that and people will you know kind of clown the hits at this point wonderwall don't look back and anger

champagne supernova it's insane that they put those three songs on the exact same album and look at the b-sides too like the b-sides from what's the story you're crazy another uh flip flop question for you are you team noel or team liam it's team liam i mean like as much as i love them both i i seen a good a good tweet and um it was like one of the oasis page for a tweet out like and it was something about a debate who's better no liam and some guy tweeted i'm not sure who he is and he was like you know if noah and liam are playing in the same town on the same night and you get given the chance to say, do you want the free ticket to Liam's gig or the free ticket to Noel's gig?

Which one do you pick? For me, I would, having been to both, I would just pick Liam every time. Like, it's not even really like a concert. It's just like a mad mosh pit for like 90 minutes. Everyone's going nuts. There's no like bad vibes in there. There's drinks going. There's people colliding into each other one

minute you're up on someone's shoulders or you don't even know so as good as no and no concept was great as well in cardiff but uh it's liam every time all right i'm with you as well i haven't seen him live yet and he's like the number one for me on my bucket list of like that's the artist i want to see i got to see noel and that was amazing of course but it's not that vibe you don't get the mosh pit vibe you don't get the flare vibe people aren't up on shoulders you know he's doing don't look back in anger or whatever and a couple of beatles covers it does remind you of like it's a bit dark a bit then you know it's pretty much black in there there's all the lights are black and white it's it's like the twice i've been to watch him i've generally been two of my favorite nights out there if he ever comes to cardiff again is all the lights are black and white. It's like the twice I've been to Washington,

I've genuinely been two of my favorite nights out there. If he ever comes to Cardiff again, you'll have to get a flight over and come down with me and the boys. We'll show you a good time. Hell yeah, I'll be up on your shoulders. Fucking going crazy. Even without the recent solo gigs though,

I understand Liam might be the reason why they broke up liam's the head case right and all that shit he's just so cool at the end of the day he's so much cooler he's he's the cool guy the stance you know leaning up to the mic the way he does everything about that for me is just like that's the coolest rock star i've ever seen in my entire life when he's singing rock and roll star i don't know if you've watched um his new there's like he brought out the as you as you were um dvd and his brother says on there you know um growing up in the 90s kids didn't want to dress and look like no they wanted to dress and look like liam so as as much as no one deserves most of the credit for writing the songs and you know putting other pieces together there's only one guy you know i might especially back in that era i imagine there's only one guy that people wanted to be like and uh unfortunately for noel it wasn't

him no it's definitely the case and i feel like right now i'm still trying to look like liam i'm buying parkas every left and right just trying to fucking see do i look like i'm doing i look like i'm looking in the mirror it's like stone island stone island t-shirt stone island zipper stone island jeans yeah really i gotta get a man, a bucket hat, the whole fucking nine. Then I'm probably going to buy it, I'll be honest. All right, Jack. This has been awesome. This has been a blast.

We got to get together before your next fight. We'll make a tradition of this. You'll definitely have our support going forward. Mad for it. Walks out to Supersonic, like I said, ladies and gentlemen. So we're going to end this podcast with supersonic It's my favorite Oasis song in their entire catalog Jack. Thank you very much