My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 76 - 'DEFINITELY MAYBE' WITH NATE

Episode Date: August 31, 2020

Robbie and Nate return to the Basement to break down Oasis' debut record, 'DEFINITELY MAYBE', just days after the twenty-sixth anniversary of its release! You'll get a full history of the album, the recording process, and a track-by-track breakdown in this pod - check it out. 3Chi: Use code BASEMENT at checkout to receive 5% off at 3Chi.com My Mom's Basement Merch: https://store.barstoolsports.com/products/my-moms-basement-tie-dye-hoodieYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. I'm here with Nate, Mr. Eric Nathan. Up! We did a podcast, when did we do our Oasis podcast? Was that in quarantine, or was that before? It had to be in quarantine. Had to be, right? Like March? But it was like early on. Yeah. So we did a behind the music fandom podcast on just Oasis, just how Nate got into Oasis, how I got into Oasis. We talked about our top 10 favorite songs. We got a lot of good feedback on that as well. It's my favorite thing I've ever done. Like for

kind of weeks and even months after it, I was getting tweets still like, hey, I enjoyed that podcast you and Nate did about Oasis. I must have found some Oasis fan board because I definitely got tweets from people that like didn't listen to the podcast before. Yeah like we got people from England who are just like okay cool podcast guy. Yeah they were like thank god Yank's no songs other than Wonderwall like we got a lot of that but Nate hit me up a while ago with the idea of going through all the Oasis albums and just doing it one by one. He said why don't we do a podcast for Definitely Maybe, one for What's the Story?

Go through them all, and I'm never going to turn down the opportunity to talk about the big O, Oasis. I had Jack Shore, I had a UFC fighter on recently, Nate. We just talked about Oasis the entire time. He walks out to Supersonic. He's a crazy fan. He's been to the Liam shows in Cardiff.

He's exactly like us. It was a fun time. So this is the Definitely Maybe pod. We're going to go through it. We'll give you a little bit of the background. We'll go track by track through it. We'll give you our top five songs, our top five B-sides, and kind of just talk about this album that obviously means a lot to both of us.

If people want to listen to the full Oasis one, it's one hour and 26 minutes of just me and Bob geeking out about Oasis. It's from May 1st. Okay, so it wasn't quarantine. I thought it was way more at the beginning. I've lost track of time. I would have guessed. Time is just nothing.

Gone to my head, I would have said March also. We had two full months. Was it Rudy the other day said, like, I couldn't tell you a single thing I did in April? And I agree with him. I have no idea what he did in April. Not a clue, dude. I lived to that month, but it's just gone we're in sept today's august 30th i don't know how many days are in this month but we're in september now

it's man it's fucked up go back listen to that podcast though if you're interested i think it's a good intro to like how did both of you get into oasis why do you like oasis what are your favorite oasis songs and now we'll bring you back to the beginning with Oasis. Before we do that, let me tell you about our sponsor this week. It is 3Chi. 3Chi is our presenting sponsor. They have been our presenting sponsor for months, what you have liked about 3G, what you've liked about their Delta 8 products. If you fill it out, take two seconds, you could save this product. You could be part of history here. So go do that. It's on my Twitter. It's on their Twitter.

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and then we can comment on it and go into it as that goes. Oasis was formed in 1991. They were a band called The Rain, which is obviously based on The Beatles. That was the name of The Beatles Broadway show a few years ago, which I wouldn't remember. God, it's 10 years ago now, probably. But I went to that and it was basically just a Beatles cover band and they didn't do a show. They just did like Beatles songs. There's no story. No, they would dress up as The Beatles through the errors thoughles through the errors though so they'd come out and then they would go through like all the different errors it was cool though it was very cool it felt like a concert like it was a broadway show where everyone stood up the whole time it was what it was weird but it was awesome like it was

basically just like if i was too young but if i would have gotten super stoned beforehand i would have thought i saw the beetles i i saw the not to get too off track, but I saw The Beatles' Love Cirque du Soleil show in Vegas. I did, too. Literally top three things I've ever seen. Agreed. Like, music awesome, so impressive. By the way, people who can just do Cirque du Soleil shit, they're a whole other level of human. But no, it was great.

If people can check that out, 100 out of 100. Absolutely mind-blowing. But the band was Liam Gallagher he's the vocalist we got Bonehead on guitars we've got Gwigsy on bass and we've got Tony McCarroll on drums so that's the whole band in 91 Liam's older brother Noel

gets back from a tour with the Inspiral Carpets where he was being a roadie and he was kind of like alright this is kind of fucking cool I've got songs I write songs I play guitar better than everyone else in this band plays guitar so he said i'll join the band as long as you guys give me full creative control of everything and they were like yeah sure you got the better songs they renamed it oasis and they were off and

running by 93 they signed to creation records and they they started getting going on recording. They record Columbia, which is a song on this album, and they put it out to journalists just to kind of give them a feeler for what this new band is that's hitting the scene. And this Columbia single that was just really supposed to be a demo for media, it got a ton of radio play, which was kind of mind-blowing at the time, and they start recording. The recording was an absolute shitshow. And this is very much documented in the Supersonic documentary that we recommended in the last Oasis podcast, but they go to Monroe Valley Studio.

This is late 93, and the producer they worked with was a guy named Dave Batchelor, who Noel knew through the Inspiral Carpets connection. They record everything, and it just sounds too clean. Oasis was known for their big, brash punk sound, and everything sounded like it had no distortion on it, like it was just kind of five guys in a room very carefully hitting their notes. They bring it to Saul Mill's studio,

and Noel decides he's going to take most of the production credit on himself with Mark Coyley. They don't soundproof anything. They just figure, let's have everything be as loud as possible. Let's have it sound like Oasis at the venue. And there was a lot of Noel Gallagher guitar overdubs. So there was a thousand guitar tracks on every track. Again, it did not sound good. They eventually bring it to Owen Morris and they said, listen, let's see if we could just make something out of all of the money we've spent on these demos. And he brings it to Johnny Marr Studio, Johnny Marr, legendary guitarist of the Smiths in Manchester, and he just puts a fuck ton of compression on this entire album. He throws some eighth note tape delay all over the drums, so Tony McCarroll's very basic

drums become a little more interesting. He throws filters over the bass, over the high end, so there's no mistakes made by Gwigsy anymore. And he just puts this in-your-face punk mastering all over it. And it becomes the album that we now know it to be. It is an amazing album. If you're an Oasis fan already, you know it's one of the two Holy Grails. The first two albums albums unquestionably miles and miles above everything else i think some people maybe put the master plan with it

that's a take i don't i wouldn't put it miles and miles i think they're all unique in their own way i think what's the story morning glory is i will get to it but uh no you might be right i don't know when you said miles and miles i kind kind of gasped. The first two were just so far above the rest. But then when you listen to Be Here Now on a Good Day, it's like, ooh, that's so good. And even like I've been listening to Standing on the Shoulder of Giants like constantly, just like over and over and over again. I've just been like in this cycle of it. And it's amazing. But then I'll put on definitely maybe I'll listen to it this morning in preparation for this podcast.

And it's just like there's literally not a single song I'm skipping. It flows perfectly. Even the B-sides, which we'll get into, where it's like, man, I would have put this on the album. It feels sacrilegious to say that just because, like, I don't want to change the masterpiece that it is. I'm like, no, no, it's perfect as it is. But, you know, you could have thrown half the world away.

There's a song called Dixie's Diner on it, so it's not perfect. Well, I thought it was Dixie's Diner for years. It's Dixie's Dinner. Dinner, but they didn't put in the other one. You know, it was that and standing on the shoulder of giants. I always thought it was standing on the shoulders. It's just shoulder. Yeah, and I read an article.

That fucked with me for years. I read an article about that. It was basically they were just on drugs and they fucked it up. Yeah, they just didn't realize. Yeah, it's like when you get a tattoo and then, all i'll keep it there it is what it is um so definitely maybe wound up being a huge huge success and this is the anniversary week by the way on august 29th 1994 it's the anniversary week of both this album getting released and the band breaking up their final show and everything yeah it's sad sad fitting at least. The first three singles of it were Supersonic, Shaker Maker, and then Live Forever.

Slide Away was considered, and Noel denied it. He said, there's no way we can have that many singles off a debut album. Hysterical in hindsight, because it's like, why the fuck not? Like, of course you could. Boston had, I think, eight off their first album. I think the entire Hot Fuss album was released for singles. Exactly, yeah. I think, I mean, especially with a song like Slide Away.

My favorite song, my number one. Literally, put them all out there. Spoiler alert for if you're going to go back and listen to the other Oasis podcast, that's my number one Oasis song of all time. Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of people share that opinion as well. It is now seven times platinum, 2.1 million record sales, which is just absolutely insane. It peaked at 58 on the Billboard 200 in America. So this was the start of their success in the U.S., but obviously not kicking the doors down with success.

That was more the next album what's the story and then it says here on wikipedia that it helped spur a revitalization of british pop music brit pop that came from obviously the the stone roses and everything like that in 2006 nme conducted a reader's poll in which definitely maybe it was voted the greatest album of all time with sergeant peppers as number two so that just goes to show you how uh people in the uk hold this album oh yeah i don't think people realize i i know we said it a ton in the last podcast so i don't want to sound like a broken record by saying you know people in the u.s don't realize how big they were how much how we don't but like oasis mania was a real thing that we both missed out on where they's in the UK where they're saying Definitely Maybe won Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band No. 2.

The way that the Kardashians are in the tabloids and all that every week, that was Liam and Noel daily and weekly during the Definitely Maybe, What's the Story, Be Here Nowadays. Yeah, during the 90s. Like the craziest, you know, we look back still at the 90s of pop culture

and that is the gold bearer of pop culture was the 90s. Everyone looks back that that was the UK for them. Even now, people, album now first track off the album the insanely and i mean insanely cocky rock and roll that's when i texted you when i was i started doing prep for the podcast and i got to track one and i was like this is the cockiest thing of all time talk about kicking the doors down like that opening i mean just this here, we could play it. Yeah, I nailed that. Like come on, that's what I dream of hitting when I go to an Oasis show one day. In 2021, in 2022, in 2023. I don't know when it's going to be. 22.

It's happening. 22, let's say 22. That's when it's going to happen. That's what I dream of. Fucking in the bushes playing, strobe lights going off people in the crowd start throwing their beers in the crowd the second liam struts out i think someone's gonna die like someone's gonna have a heart attack like stadiums are just gonna collapse a hole is gonna form in the ground what a sinkhole like one of those is gonna form it's just it's gonna be that

and then that guitar riff is gonna hit and just like that's peace and unity in the world once that guitar riff hits. I'm going to talk into existence. When they reunite, they have to open with Rock and Roll Star. Oh, you have to. Like you have to. I've seen Liam comment that on Instagram too. People have been like,

what would you want to open with, blah, blah, blah. And a lot of people say hello. It is cool. But I say you could do that second. Go Rock and Roll Star into hello. Boom. Or you could do that. Or you go rock and roll star into acquiesce which we need each other but like i don't think they would do the corny shit i don't think they would either because they would probably when they get back together they're still gonna hate each other they're still gonna

hate each other too like they're not gonna they'll do the separate tour bus yeah but we'll listen we're getting ahead of ourselves. Rock and roll star, just this song. We talked about it in our top ten. It was definitely in mine. I think it was in my top five. And the way I put it was this is everything that like Liam Gallagher and Oasis were, especially in the beginning, in the punk rock and roll phase of Oasis, in the young band on the scene. They fucking stood there and said, yeah, tonight I'm a rock and roll star. We're the young band on the scene, they fucking stood there and said,

yeah, tonight I'm a rock and roll star. We're the coolest band in the room. We're the coolest band in the world. Nobody makes better music than us. I mean, even the intro of I live my life in the city. There's no easy way out. Gives you that like they're trying to make it still. It's that hungry Oasis.

But it's crazy how the first song on their first album set the tone for – they were foreshadowing their entire future right there. Literally their entire future. Crazy. There is no way they could have known at that time how big they were going to become, but kind of they were talking it into existence themselves. Like, we are rock and roll stars. We're the biggest – like, opening your album with that. Their first album, yeah. And especially there was buzz about oasis right there was anticipation about this album it was well they

put out like it was just in terms of like yeah i think three of the singles came out before the album dropped yeah supersonic was out shaker maker was out um i don't think live for i think live forever was the first one when the album was actually released but there was expectation so kicking the door down with this one is just like fucking – we're putting our cocks on the table right now. We are Oasis. Fantastic song. One of my favorite Oasis songs of all time still. Also –

And live. Very randomly. Tremendous live. Like one of those songs that is ten times better in a live environment. I would say very randomly you'll still hear it on like rock radio like very randomly like you have to do like a double take also if you're still listening to rock radio like hi you're a dinosaur also but like i don't know yeah are you listening to this where are you listening to this if you're if you still listen to rock radio do you listen to podcasts

i remember then rock radio in the car i remember driving i drive like twice a year at this point and it was thanksgiving like three years ago, and DC 101 played Rockin' Rollstar, and I was like, what? Well, we can get into this right now. I was going to wait until we got into the B-sides, but we were talking about Listen Up before, which is a B-side off this album, and I said I had a fun fact about it. I also drive maybe two or three times a year at this point. I crashed my mom's car to Listen Up.

That was the song I was playing when I totaled my mom's car this year. So every time I hear that now, I could sort of think of that, but not even in a bad way. It's not like, oh, that's a bad memory. Just in a like, fucking A. Wait, is it directly correlated? Like you were like banging your head and then you crashed because of the song? I was so specifically like, it's such a lame thing to say, but I was so worried about crashing my mom's car before i crashed my mom's car that i wasn't even blasting the music or anything i was like i had everything low i had like my hands at 10 and 2 i was very much like driving like you would when you first

get your license or when you first get your permit and i still got into an accident fucking shitty terrible i'm sorry the next song off this album is one called shaker maker it's one that uh noel gallagher and the boys got sued for years down the line by Coca-Cola. But let's play it. Let's get a taste of it now. That was literally like the biggest commercial in the history of the world. And they're like, what are the chances we'll be sued for ripping off the biggest commercial of all time? And they got sued.

Yeah, so that was a Coca-Cola commercial in 1971. And Coca-Cola did win that lawsuit so shaker maker one of the many songs in the oasis catalog to get them sued but a great song two things about track one and track two both over five minutes like yep long songs and i was wouldn't happen today i was gonna say that like they got away they did whatever they wanted basically labels care so much about that kind of shit now i don't know what they did to be able to get away with it but opening with 523 and then shaker maker is 508 and it doesn't seem that long of a song but it just it goes

and shaker maker is a song that has a pretty slow tempo which is a theme kind of across a lot of this out a lot of oasis stuff in general but it's just one of those like it's almost hypnotic it's almost psychedelic in some ways especially the outro i always think of the outro live from familiar to millions like well i was like it's like along with anyone you'd like it's like two minutes of lyrics and like three minutes of shake along with me yeah i literally like i always just picture like i don't vibing out, being high. This is just kind of one of those psychedelic, it's the intro to Oasis, diving into that very much. It has Beatles influences immediately. Rock and roll star, I don't really hear a ton of Beatles in.

Shaker maker, I do. Not a ton else to say about it, though. It's not one of my, definitely not one of my highlights on the album. A good song, though. Yeah, no, no, it is a highlight, I would say. I don't think it's one of my highlights on the album. A good song, though. Yeah. No, no. It is a highlight, I would say. I don't think it's one of the worst tracks. No, I wouldn't.

I mean, but there's no bad songs on this album. I would say there's no bad songs. There's two bad songs, but that's all right. All right. We'll get into it. We'll get into it. One of the songs that are definitely not one of the two that Nate is talking about is track three on this album. The Goat!

The Goat. Live Forever. I wrote in my little notes I wrote track 4, Up in the Sky. Not known for much. Wondering if they thought it would be a bigger song to put it at 4. Because it just seems maybe they thought

it was going to be something special and then nobody really dug it. I could see that too because it was a fast up-tempo song and I mean Bring It On Down was almost the first single off this which I think It's just the heaviest song yeah it's heavy and i love it but it it's not that's not the role that it serves yeah bring it on down on this record should not be a single um bring it on down serves the role of like uh pleasing the punk fans like me or you yes we love that punk brash energy but up in the sky definitely a bottom

three song on the record i think it serves its purpose well and i i don't dislike it i don't skip it when i listen to the record i could i could live and i love i love that for i love the way the drums come in here columbia is one of the best oasis songs um it's the song that they opened nebworth with their biggest show ever it's easy i could play it on guitar it's one of the only oasis songs i could play on guitar it's only three chords uh and yeah talk about psychedelic talk about plotting talk about um this is this this is the one where you could really hear the eighth note delays on the drums across the drums the entire um thing uh and then up next this is my favorite

oasis you're number one this is my number one across the board this is the song that i feel just defines oasis and gives the the greatest example of like who they were as a band this is the song that i would play for someone if they were like why do you love oasis i'd be like this is the song it's just fucking rocking i love i want to walk down the street like liam gallagher i love uh like random beginnings of songs like the helicopter noise on What's the Story? So do I, yeah. And all I wrote down was like, I don't even know what to call it on Supersonic. It sounds like a leaky pipe of sorts.

Johnny Marr came down when they were mastering it to listen to some of it. He was like, oh, this is the new band on the block. I want to listen to this. And he was appalled, apparently, at all the random noises. He was like, you have to take the background noise out of the beginning of cigarettes and alcohol. He's like, why does it begin with random people talking in the background and someone whistling? You cannot do it. It's funny to me how much you love Supersonic because it's like one of those very null songs where he just rhymes two random words together that don't really have any meaning other than that they rhyme.

Like, you make me laugh, give me your autograph. Like, what are you talking about? I don't know i i don't every time i like picture something different it's just he paints a picture in your head you're picturing a chick every time he gives a shout out to the beatles in the middle of the song ride with me my yellow submarine like that shit is great man that reminds me of but that like i know a girl called Elsa. She's into – it doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense. But as a kid who grew up Beatles fanatic, when Liam sings, you can ride with me in my yellow submarine, I'm like,

that sounds like something that I would not say because you'd have to be an asshole to say that out loud. But think in my head like, yeah, that's my wave. Reading the lyrics, they're just so nonsensical. But they sound so good when you listen to the song but like she sniffs it she sniffs it through a cane on a supersonic train like that's the entire yeah no no i think it's i don't know what that i think it's amazing too it's just like i also don't know what walking down a hall faster than a cannonball means and what a line that's one of the greatest songs ever written. That's a top three song ever written for Oasis for me.

I thought you meant like out of every song ever. Maybe. I wouldn't argue it. If you wanted to throw it in your top three songs ever written, we're talking about Champagne Supernova, by the way. If you want to put that in your top three ever written, I wouldn't be the one to argue. I'd be like, fuck yeah.

I'll take any Oasis song in your top three. I love like 12 minutes Champagne Supernova live. Oh, yeah. The Ne take any Oasis song in your top three. I love like 12-minute Champagne Supernova live videos. Oh, yeah. The Nebworth one where they bring up Johnny Mars. I'd just watch it forever. Tremendous. And a real deep cut one if you look up the Japan show from 2002. Deep.

Yeah, real deep cut. No champagne Supernova outros. Just ridiculous on it. That's supersonic, though. Great guitar solo. Great outro. The outro on this is,'s supersonic, though. Great guitar solo. Great outro. The outro on this is, you know, all-time rock and roll. This is the most pure rock and roll track for me.

I know that is ironic because Rock and Roll Star exists, but that's just what it is for me. And then the most pure punk track would be the next one. Bring it on. One of my favorite interviews is he was doing some kind of—I think it was like the CD documentary or something for Heathen Chemistry. That's an album we never talk about. No, we don't. And it's an album that I don't really dislike. Me either.

I think it's pretty good. But we'll get to that. We'll do a podcast about that someday. But he was doing an interview about that, and he said, talk to me about the Hindu Times. And I love that song. It's the opening song off that album. And he said, yeah, yeah, it's a good song.

I think he put it on. He's in the studio. He's listening to it. He goes, that's a good riff. I think I nicked that. And if you go back, he absolutely did nick it.

I'm looking at the track listening for Hindu Times right now. For Heathen Chemistry, you mean? Oh, sorry, for Heathen Chemistry. Incredible.

It's really good. It's really good. It's got two really good Liam written songs on it which is like, maybe Songbird? Songbird and Born on a Different Cloud. Yeah.

Pretty fucking impressive. And it's got Andy Bell's first outing on writing for Oasis. I believe Stop Crying Your Heart Out was in my top ten. It was. I think. It was. I love that song. Yeah, you're right.

But we'll get to that someday, Nate. We're talking about Cigarettes and Alcohol. What album is that? Five? Yeah. All right. We'll get there. Cigarettes and Alcohol.

We should give it the respect it deserves because it is a classic Oasis song. It's a classic party song. This is the song that makes you want to jump up and down with a bunch of Brits at an Oasis concert. It's the song that should be track four instead of Up in the Sky is what it is. But that might be sensory overload, bro. Oh, I just need it. And then at the end you have Bring It On Down, Up In The Sky, Dixie's Dinner. I don't know.

And Married With Children at the end. Then it maybe creates a week or second half of the album where this is balanced. I wrote for Cigarettes and Alcohol. I wrote another epic intro. I'd move it up to track four. Amazing live song. I remember the first time I heard liam sing imagination and action the way he does and being like what am i hearing throwing in 12 syllables you want to talk about cocky just

to like to have the wherewithal to be like that's how i'm gonna sing those words on the debut album like people must have been like like i just the first time i heard the song was on uh familiar to millions like that's the first oasis I ever heard was the live album. And I just remember just being- And they don't come into that song until a minute into the intro. Long intro. It's over a minute because I've literally scrolled to where Noel comes in. And then they do the whole lot of love outro, which is just rock and roll.

Didn't blink once. This is the party song. I can literally remember- literally remember jumping up and down being listen to my cd player like in my twin size bed in my childhood bedroom being like what in the fuck is liam singing right now like what am i hearing how is they wrote a song about cigarettes and alcohol like it because like most music you know is like love songs blah blah blah and this is just like an ode to cigarettes and alcohol. And I was like, this is the greatest band I've ever heard.

The live version he hits at, which isn't a bad thing. God, I love that live album. I'm going to listen to that right as soon as we end this podcast. I also love on the Rock and Roll Star Wikipedia page, it's a quote from noel that goes i've pretty much summed up everything i wanted to say in rock and roll star live forever and cigarettes and alcohol after that i'm just repeating myself but in a different way i've heard that quote i love it yeah which is also when you look at like those three songs and then you look at oasis's entire discography you go yeah yeah that's that's pretty much accurate that's that's exactly what he was

trying to do there were three main themes that he took yeah and he went in different directions with him maybe by the time you get to the fourth album you get some like drug withdrawal yeah i would say some drug stuff also like gas and then he gets like a little religious at some points liam got a little religious guess god thinks i'm able he spelled it like able that's a trash song you know no that's a good song that's a fucking banger we're gonna get to that album there's a couple songs on that that i got it's not a it's not a trash song but like the way the way you just started talking about it while we're talking about like fucking cigarettes and alcohol yeah all right um digsies dinner talk about uh a breather song but a song that i still feel is underrated you I think you call this a bad song.

I'll treat you like a queen. That is a lyric on the greatest album of all time. It's nice. It knows what it is. It's a breather song. It's two minutes and 32 seconds. You know, it's not pretending to be slide away. Oasis does do this type of song on many albums, like very quick.

Even instrumental sometimes. Yeah, so I don't hate it as much as maybe I made it seem like I do. It does make me chuckle, though, that, like, this is on the same album as Live Forever. Yeah. And I love the, like, early live videos, the 94 live videos, when they were just trying to fill a set list with all of the songs they had to their name. So this was on every set list. Oh, every single one. And here in Liam, just, like, you know, put his fucking upper lip to that mic and hit the stance and sing lasagna yeah they sung it as if it was live forever like they were very not put it in yeah no like like when they were singing it this wasn't like hey let's fuck around and sing

this weird song i was like we're it's got a moment in it when they sing these could be the best days of our life i do like that part like that's a fucking good melody. That's a good lyric. You could copy-paste that part of the song into another song. It reminds me of, like, being a kid. Like, not even, like, in high school. Like, being in eighth grade. Like, that's what it reminds me of. You know what?

My favorite song about, like, being a kid is Do You Want to Be a Spaceman, the B-side. Well, yeah. That's tremendous. Which I think is a highly underrated song. Which maybe my favorite song about being a kid would be a B-side called Fade Away. Hmm. Interesting. Do you think Fade Away is better than Do You Want to Be a Spaceman?

Yes. Okay. Because of the War Child version with Johnny Depp on guitar. Which is also very random. Tremendous. Johnny Depp just played guitar on Oasis Tune. Played that and uh Don't Go Away he plays slide guitar yes that's the one I couldn't remember I couldn't remember friends

with Liam and Noel back and I think they probably that was like the uh the Donnie Brasco era of Johnny Depp I think they probably just wanted to be friends with like a badass movie star you know he's like a cool action star he's kind of like them which he didn't talk as much shit I don't think I was trying to think you don't really hear about them having like super famous celebrity friends or anything mostly musicians but they hated every single musician for a very long time

it was like Rich from Richard Arshcroft whatever his fucking name is from the Verve Tim the Charlatans they were cool with Tim Burgess from the Charlatans they were cool with. Tim Burgess from the Charlatans I know they liked. Paul Weller. It was a lot of older musicians they wound up being cool with.

But yeah, Diggsy's Dinner. It is what it is. It is a song. It's a tune. It's a good song. And then you get to Slide Away. The Goat. My favorite. My favorite song. In my eyes, I look this is like the final song in the album and then Married With Children is more of an epilogue. It should have closed the album.

Yeah. It should have. Even if that just means Switch. Especially when you look at, like, they would usually pick an epic to close the album. Yeah, I don't know why. When you look at Champagne Supernova, when you look at All Around the World, when you look at Roll It Over, it's usually the long epics. I'll tell you, Slide Away also goes over six minutes. 6.30, too.

It's the longest song in the album. And, ooh, acoustic version in Chicago. I know we talked about it in May, or we talked about it on the May podcast. You probably listen to it once a week. I would say I just sit in a dark room and sob, and I just watch it. I don't know how he does that. Like, I don't—it is— Without the guitar solo, too, and I love the guitar solo in this song.

It's so emotional. The fact that you could remove it and it's still as great a song as it could ever be. Tremendous. And then Married with Children is – Bob, I would give up five years off the end of my life for Noel to just appear right in this chair, sing Slide Away, and then disappear. Five. You could take fucking ten. Yeah, I would say 15.

Make it 20. You could take me tomorrow. Yeah, I would say 15. Make it 20. You could take me tomorrow. You could take me right after the performance. There's not much I wouldn't do to hear Noel do Slide Away in front of me. And there's so many great versions, not even just the Chicago 98 one, but there's some from like, I think it was, what was it, sitting in a room all by myself or whatever that solo show he did with with uh with gem oh yeah yes yes solo on it on electric that's

tremendous too there's a lot of really great versions of slide away would you just put it back in a set list as of late as well would you rather hear it uh live acoustic from noel or full band from liam full band from liam full band from liam because i feel like the environment of like the people like singing it shouting it at the top of their lungs would be that much better maybe i'm just a sucker for that fucking acoustic i know you are a sucker for the noel acoustic we talked about that last time i always am and it's just there's a great video on youtube i'm sure you seen it, but if the people listening haven't, and I love the title of it, it's called Better Than Going to Church, Noel Gallagher's Acoustic Set List. And it's just like a compilation.

They put songs from 94, songs from 96, songs from 2009, songs from 2005. They're all over the place, but it's like an hour of just fucking phenomenal Noel Gallagher acoustic performances. And, God, it is better than going to church for me. It's biblical, as they say. This is such a weird thing I'm about to say, but maybe it's not. We both like that movie About Time. Oh, yeah. Great movie.

This song goes in so perfectly with About Time where it's like – And also, Jeff D. Lowe giving it like a 43 out of 100 triggered me. And Ken Jack, both of them. They didn't like that movie, apparently. By the way, do they just give every movie the same score? Every time I'm hitting random, they just always have the same score for movies. They need me to just totally blow their score. Well, they get the audience score.

Yeah. But no, even the audience one was low. Yeah, that's crazy. It's a great movie. It's objectively... I've never talked to anyone that didn't have... That's what I'm saying. Nothing but amazing even the audience one was low. Yeah, that's crazy. It's objectively... I've never talked to anyone that didn't have nothing but amazing

things to say about that movie. It's objectively a good movie, and I'm confused why... It's a glitch. It has to be. They both gave it in

the 40s. And literally everyone I've ever recommended that to has come back and been like, that brought me to tears. That was like gorgeous. The thing that I don't

get is, you can like a movie, also know it's bad totally but there's star wars prequels like i i can't but i can't fathom watching that movie and thinking it's bad i can't i can't make my mind it's like one of my favorite rom-com if i don't even know if you could call it a rom-com because it's so like a rom-drom if you want to call it with funny parts with fucking time travel yeah it's i i think it's streaming i think it's on netflix on hbo yeah go watch about time we could do a whole podcast about that and then go listen to can we call jeff right now with uh uh the writer of that dial up jeff d low no i'm not sund, 4.30. I don't care what he's doing with his family.

Dialing up Jeff D'Lo. I need to know why he gave it. I'm going to give it right now. Let's get to the final song on this album. It's nothing,

it's nothing fancy. It's married with children. It's a little, we're two of a kind. It's a little acoustic diddly. If you listen to Green Day. It's a diddly or is it a diddy?

Diddly. It's a diddy medley. If you listen to a green day it's a diddly or is it a diddy diddly it's a diddy medley um if you listen to green day i think of this song like i think of like song of the century on 21st century breakdown where it's like more of just an outro this is just a quick epilogue this is like i said a breather after slide away after the concert's over and everyone's filing out this is what plays it yeah yes yes, yes, yes, yes. Just for everyone to fucking take a deep breath and wipe their tears away. Do you think they should have axed it and just kept it a 10 song and with Slide Away? If you had to choose right now.

No, because I like it. I still listen to it every time. I would be honest and say, yeah, if I skipped it every time, if I just went back to Rock and Roll Star, but if I'm listening to this twice in a row, I'm not skipping Married with Children. Delete one song from the album. I think it's between Married with Children, Dixie's Dinner, and Up in the Sky, right? Yes. I would say unquestionably between those three, I would probably delete Married with Children.

I agree. If you're telling me delete anything from the album, I'd probably delete Married with Children. That's my – my note was Married with Children stinks. Now I'll ask you this question. It doesn't stink. I agree 100% with what you just said. It's fine. It's fine.

If I were at a show and Noah broke it out, I'd be like, oh, this is taking up a slot. But I would listen to it. You know what I mean? That was the entire 2015 Dig Out Your Soul tour. 2015? No, Don't Believe the Truth. Right? 2015?

2005. God, I always do that. We're all over the place. We're time traveling in this podcast. I always do that. When I saw them in England in London was 2000? They played Monkey Fingers. It was 2012. Shock of the Lightning. No, bro. They them in England in London was 2000. They played Mucky Fingers. It was 2012.

Shock of the Lightning. No, bro. They broke up in 2009. Holy shit. I can't figure out when I was in high school and when I was in college. Are you on acid right now? Are you having a stroke? I did Molly last Friday at like 3 a.m.

I heard. I listened. Oh, yeah. I told you that. You texted me. I didn't even respond because I was like, I don't want to respond to a guy in Molly right now and get myself into some situation where it's like I got to hide a body. I'm not that lucky.

Bro, I don't know what Molly consists of. Anyway, here's my question for you. If you had to place one of the B-sides into this album, which one would you put on? Because looking at my list, I actually surprised myself, and I would put on Half the World Away, which I didn't think I would pick a Noel song. I usually lean to Liam's voice. I just love his voice. That's the, that's yeah.

That's the best B side of it. It's definitely half the world away. Half the world away. Sad song. I love, I, I prefer, I prefer Liam's acoustic,

uh, unplugged sad song from like last year to Knowles. Um, but yeah, fade away would be my number three. And then the two I have other than that that I put like a top five besides, I put Do You Want to Be a Spaceman

and It's Good to Be Free. Yep, that's the exact order. All right. That's literally the exact order. Maybe It's Good to Be Free above Do You Want to Be a Spaceman? Yeah. But those could go back and forth for me.

I like them just about the same. Half the World Away. Can you play that real quick? Oh, yeah. Sorry, I can't believe how can... how can my most listen to oasis songs i can't believe how confused i just got about years like that was i i just i swore you saw oasis in 2012 i just i i forget like going to oasis shows it's like they can bust out any beat even though they do you like when bands play same set list so you know what you're gonna see and you're not disappointed that you didn't see a song that someone else got to see?

Or do you like when they switch it up and you don't know what you're going to get? I like both, but it's like – it's different vibes for me. So, like, I'll take either one. I kind of like them the same. It's just different. I – when they played in London in whatever year that was, I'm not even going to try to guess. 2008 or nine it had to be nine i think i don't know um maybe eight they played back-to-back nights and i was like

i don't even think i have to buy both nights because it's gonna be the same set and it was it was the same set both nights yeah i would still buy both nights i was poor college but but they kind of saved me money that way still money but they played literally money. But they played literally the exact set, Back to Back Nights, and I remember the Oasis message board people being like, why won't they just play a different song? And that's not what they do. I think when you play the same venue, Back to Back Nights, you should at least throw in a different song.

Make like the 17th song in the set list will either be this or this, and you do that. I know that the Chili Peppers do that. At least they'll have like three set lists for the tour and they'll just go one two three one two three one two three and each one you know they kind of uh even out the hits with yes or whatever so my band oar changes it every night they've never played the same set twice that's crazy and uh dave matthews type thing yeah i mean d Dave goes crazy with it. Dave will pull out a song that they haven't played since 1993. He'll be in Spokane, Washington.

Every person there knows. They'll know it. They're like, oh my god, they haven't played this since 93! I'm a casual Dave fan. I like Dave, but I have a hard time going to Dave shows because they go too deep. I feel like I know most of Dave Matthews' catalog, and I feel like I'm still not a hardcore fan. I'm more of a casual. I know like 10% of the songs they perform at shows.

They do only deep cuts and then ants marching. I don't know these songs. I do want to play just a little bit of the War Child edition of Fade Away that I referenced before. So this has Johnny Depp on guitar. It has Noel Gallagher on lead vocals and liam on backup which is a very rare dynamic you don't you didn't usually get liam singing backup for noel um kate moss is on this i think she's playing tambourine or something they must have been on so much drug absolutely i mean i can't the fact that they handed johnny depp a guitar and they were like listen listen, we got to record a version of one of our songs for this charity album.

You play it? I have found out when I saw Oasis in concert. When was it? It was either October 16th or 17th at Wembley Arena. 2008. I was going to say, you left out literally the only part we were looking for. I am so stupid. Jesus Christ, I'm dumb.

So it wasn't 2012. You weren't the sole Oasis fan to see them in 2012. And then they broke up in August of 2009. Brutal. Yeah, this week. This is the week. Rest in peace to Oasis. That was when they went on hiatus, we'll say, because they'll obviously be back.

It is such a bummer to look at the set list, though, because Shock of the Lightning to be where there's life. Oh, come on. Shock of the Lightning is a sick song. No, it songs no it's cool no no i'm with you i'm chris sharrick playing drums on it i'm with you that it's a cool song but when when this is oasis and you're like you're seeing waiting for the rapture and like true i don't know i'm out of time which is a fine song but you know my big mouth which is do you like my big mouth yeah and i like the way they played it on that tour

they played it like a couple steps down because Liam could not sing I mean it's a crazy high song even on the like the Nebworth performance of that before it was out

Liam was struggling to hit the high notes they had Falling Down in the encore yeah alright I can see how you would wish a different song

was in the encore I was at the show Noah was crazy high on that song, too. Noel called that the greatest song he wrote since the Master Plan or something. You missed out when Noel said that about every song that he wrote for about 10 years. He just realized that was a good way to promote the album. My God. In a way his fans would buy into it.

Stop the Clocks was the greatest thing he ever wrote, and then everybody heard it, and they're like, where's the Stop the Clocks version that's the greatest song of all time? It's also the same thing that Tom did with angels and airwaves he's like we're revolutionizing music and it's like a lot of bands do everything especially when when new eras come and bandmates come and go i remember when uh buck cherry recently and it's you know weird to compare buck chair to oasis but buck cherry recently i'm here uh the singer josh canned the whole band and he just got a whole new band and then when when the new album came out, he's like, we've never sounded better as a group. And it's like, oh, you're saying that to fucking drive the knife into your former bandmates a little more. I always think about – I think we've probably talked about this – how Adam Levine still tours with Maroon 5.

Maroon 5. Why? How rich are these guys? What a nice guy he is. I respect that, though. Yeah, I respect it. Brennan Urie does the same thing with Panic. Panic at the Disco could walk by.

But they have different members, right? I don't think they have the same band they used to. I think it's just him. Well, no, the original guy who wrote my favorite album, not of all time, but I wrote Sins, Not Tragedies. I think he's legit the only one in the band anymore. Oh, good. So he is.

I think he has a toy band, yeah. See, that's the smart way to do it when you're that big. You pay, you're traveling. I don't know if it was smart. There's a lot of nasty stories about that guy. Brendan Urie? I think a lot of people. Did he get canceled?

Something happened. He got half canceled, but I think people have just left the band because they're like, fuck Brendan Urie. He seems like a dickhead, but he also makes smash hits. Yeah. But I miss up. There's rough videos of him saying weird shit to women on stage and drunk. Really?

I didn't know that. I didn't know that until I did a wake-up song on the blog, Panic! at Disco, and someone tweeted, like, Brendan Urie's canceled. And I was like, I live on the internet, and I love Panic! at Disco. He was Brendan for a few years. And I didn't know he was canceled, so I missed that whole thing. But this isn't the Brandon Urie podcast. This is the Oasis podcast. This has been the Definitely Maybe podcast

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I thought you were doing another ad read and then you're like, well, that's the show. No, no, I was wrapping up because we kind of talked about it. My top five. I'll go five, cigarettes and alcohol four rock and roll star three slide away oh uh number two live forever and number one supersonic

what do you got uh i go five rock and roll star four cigarettes and alcohol three Columbia to fuck how do I do Live Forever and Slide Away I can't do it to Live Forever one slide away maybe that's impossible that's impossible

it'll change depending on the day it literally just changed I don't know whenever someone says what's your favorite movie of all time I say I have two

and it'll change depending on the day you ask me it's either The Dark Knight or it's The Empire Strikes Back oh I know today it's The Dark Knight wait tomorrow it it's the Empire Strikes Back. Oh, I know. Today it's the Dark Knight. Wait.

Tomorrow it might be the Empire Strikes Back. That's breaking news to me. I never thought that a Star Wars movie could fall out of your top spot. Oh, yeah. It's forever. Since the Dark Knight came out, it's pretty much been the Dark Knight. I would say I lean more of the Dark Knight than Empire. Have you?

Depending on the day, I might say Empire. You've seen Empire more than any other movie, right? No, Dark Knight for sure. Really? Yeah, for sure. I didn't know. By far. You don't have a Dark Knight tattoo, though. Yeah, I do. You've seen Empire more than any other movie, right? No, Dark Knight, for sure. Really? Yeah, for sure. I didn't know. By far. You don't have a Dark Knight tattoo, though.

Yeah, I do. You do? Oh, I'm an idiot. You certainly do. It's not Dark Knight, but it's Batman. Batman is my favorite character of all time. My favorite, like, literary character. Not Anakin?

No. Oh. No character from Star Wars would even, like, come close. Because I like Star Wars as a whole, as a world, as a universe. But character-wise, legit nobody comes close to Batman for me wow nobody interesting I didn't know that about you Wayne's the goat for me didn't know that about you well it's I feel like I haven't there hasn't been a crazy Batman craze in pop culture since I've worked at Barstool you know I haven't gotten a chance to like really show it now with the Robert Pattinson thing the

Star Wars resurgence came like right at the right time for you yeah even i wish i was like here a little earlier to do like the force awakens stuff when things were more positive across the whole fandom you did uh a star wars blog every day for i think three years i was like i did crazy amount of stuff you were their lead marketer. I was perplexed. I was like, is this movie out yet? I'm so confused by what's happening. And they're going to keep coming, Star Wars blogs. Because guess what?

We're getting a Mandalorian trailer possibly this week. Is the new Batman, does it start from the beginning again? Is it the whole origin story again? Well, no. They're not redoing an origin, but it's its own thing again. But do I have to deal with his uncle and dad dying and all that shit again his uncle that's spider-man his parents get shot that shot sorry yeah i don't know why i said god i hope not because they've shown that in every that's what i'm saying i've seen that origin story so many times you're not the only one with literally

every comic fan of all time is saying please for the love of god don't show the wanes get shot again they showed it again in joker and i thought it was the dumbest shit in the world but i don't listen you're gonna get me wrong. But I don't, listen, you're going to get me riled up. Yeah, I just don't know why. This podcast studio

is also a thousand degrees and I'm trying to get out of here so I do want to wrap this up. It's these lights. Thank you for listening. This has been the Definitely Maybe podcast. We will be back next week.

Clem and I are going to do a commentary track over Black Panther. A little tribute to Chadwick Boseman. Rest in peace. And try to do that the right way.

Try to do it in a nice way. And Nate and I will be back with a What's the Story Morning Glory podcast coming soon. Who knows what year. Yeah, I won't put a date on it.