My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 77 - 'BLACK PANTHER' COMMENTARY WITH CLEM
Episode Date: September 7, 2020Clem joins Robbie in the Basement this week to pay tribute to the great Chadwick Boseman by celebrating one of his greatest pieces of work: 'Black Panther'. Donate to the Colon Cancer Coalition: http...s://coloncancercoalition.org/donate/You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement
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The reason why we're here, it's a sad reason, it's a somber reason.
If you clicked on the title of this podcast, you know.
We're going to do a commentary for Black Panther.
Sort of a tribute to Chadwick Boseman. Passed away, unfortunately, if you haven't heard,
I don't know how you haven't, but stage four colon cancer, I believe. He suffered for four years,
battled throughout the most prosperous time of his entire career, the most successful time of
his entire career, gave a Civil War, Endgame, Infinity War, Black Panther,
21 Bridges, Marshall, all in this time. And it's crazy. I wish I were more, what's the word? I see
this as the word, articulate. See that? I couldn't even think of the word. That really proved my
point. I wish I could eulogize him in a nicer way. I'm not the most articulate guy. I'm just kind of
a fan. I was a guy who was a fan of his for, you know, his entire Marvel way. I'm not the most articulate guy. I'm just kind of a fan. I was a guy who was
a fan of his for his entire Marvel run. I remember seeing 42 in theaters with my sister. I texted
her right away. I said, remember when you took me to see 42? We loved that movie. So it was really
sad to see him pass away. Shocking, obviously. None of us knew he was going through this. I
don't think a lot of the cast members knew he was going through this either
based on their posts.
But, man, going through all of them for the past week has been incredibly sad.
But also you go through it and you see his speech at Howard.
Man, nobody pressed on with purpose more than this guy in his fucking final four years.
He became a global icon.
He means more to, you know, a lot of people of color than i could ever imagine him meaning to us
you know you or me just as superhero fans he is a generational talent he's a generational hero
him going to the the children's hospitals while he was going through this too all those pictures
came out who those fucking pull on the heartstrings more than any because you know he was going through
the same thing they were and he wasn't letting them know it.
He was just a hero to them.
So that was, it's been a tough week as a Chadwick Boseman fan.
You know, my heart goes out to his friends and family
and his fans that, like I said,
he might have meant more to than he could have ever meant to me.
So we're going to do a commentary of this movie.
We'll talk about him the whole time, I'm sure.
So I don't, you know, we don't have to go too much further in the intro but Clem anything you want to say uh no I
mean like you said it was it was an absolute uh curveball out of left field it uh I feel like it
was very similar with Kelly Preston obviously she you know she's you know had a similar issue
where I think no one knew she was sick and then she just had passed away um I that night when he
passed away was the night that it was like right before that
news had broke that Steve Cohen was behind the Mets.
So I was in Steve Cohen Mets celebration.
I know.
I saw that.
I didn't even text you.
I was like, I hope he finds out tomorrow morning somehow.
Like, I just hope he gets one night of happiness with the Mets,
and then he can find out the next morning.
Yeah.
And as I was scrolling through Twitter, I saw, you know, the word bozeman a couple times and i honestly thought he had just you know had some
sort of a statement about something that was going viral or something and i was like all right well
we'll get to that like i was working all night we're podcasting blogging doing everything and
then at the end of our second podcast i think it was kyle who works on us we got to believe was
like oh chadwick bozeman died it was like just gutting you know what i mean it's like what it
doesn't compute and i haven't even talked to you I was away that the week during the weekend
too so a lot of stuff like you said um the the pictures of the kids with the uh you know doing
the Wakanda forever sign with all these Avengers toys stuff like that that kind of resonates as
well as obviously the the hospital and the cancer uh stuff and all that and we've talked about this
and I'm sure we'll talk about it during the movie, but we've talked about it during Endgame and I believe Guardians and Infinity War even.
Like, obviously I'm not black. I don't know how much this resonates with, you know, the black
community. I can't know for sure. Obviously we see things on Twitter. You hear people talk about it.
I do have a daughter. I know how we've talked about it before gamora captain marvel
all those kind of things her having a superhero she could look into and just seeing the way she
talks about it seeing in her eyes when she sees those superheroes come on screen and being able
to be them dress up as them for halloween being able to be someone that she can identify with
uh i would imagine you know this black panther sounds like it's the exact same thing with people
of color javik boseman was the obviously he not going to be able to see this thing all the way
through, through, you know, five Black Panther movies and whatever Marvel has planned in the
next phase, but he set the base and humongous shoes for the next person, whoever it may be.
So, I mean, I guess we'll get into it, but I mean, I think, like you said, articulate is not,
you know, the number one requirement of Dave Portnoy to hire people,
but people who actually do truly care and whatever,
and obviously both of us do about this franchise and this entire universe.
So hopefully, you know, whoever fills those roles and all that stuff in the future.
And people who are articulate have done a great job kind of putting those things.
They've done a great job.
I mean, Ryan Coogler's entire statement was beautiful.
Most of the Avengers put out even just short, like paragraphs about him.
Brie Larson put out at one, everyone calling him just like a gentle dude,
like an absolute gentleman. Like he was just an awesome guy around the board.
So let's, let's press play. We're going to,
we've got to queue it up on Disney plus here. So if you go to Disney plus,
press play on the title screen, go all the way back to 0.00 and then pause it.
And then we'll do three, two, one play. And you click play with us.
This won't be a somber podcast. You know, this is a movie we love.
This is a great movie. We're going to celebrate this guy's life.
We're going to celebrate his work, his greatest role, in my opinion, you know,
the one that is going to be the one that sticks with him the one that i walk down the street in new york city
you see artists all the time with uh paintings of kind of like generational talents that passed
away when they were young kurt cobain uh john lennon amy winehouse you see jimmy hendrix on
these people's uh poster board you'll see see Kobe now. Add Chadwick Boseman to
that list. You know what I mean? He's a face that I don't think we'll ever stop seeing. You'll see
murals of him. You'll see Wakanda forever things. You'll see Black Panther things forever. And I
hope we do. He's the guy that deserves it. So three, two, one, click. And we're off
and now don't be scared folks this movie
does begin with like a black screen for
a little bit you know the movie is playing
now I think this is
this might be the
second third at most
time I've seen this movie
because it's a long one
first of all yeah and this is
right around the time i mean i kind of went dark for a while there in terms of like i had never
even seen guardians once let alone twice or three times and it's like my favorite movie ever so i
don't really have time to re-watch movies unless it's infinity which i just watch non-stop so
i'm gonna have some stuff i didn't pick up the first time here. So we get the whole background.
And that's great because I feel like I'm the polar opposite in that, you know, I'm the rewatch king.
I can't stop rewatching movies.
I love rewatching movies.
I saw this, I think, three times in theaters.
I definitely saw it twice.
I think I saw it three times.
And it was just because it was such an incredible experience.
It got that full Avengers feel, you know, and it was just even,
even like it had a different feel though, as you were part of a movement,
like you were part of like a thing. It felt so big on opening,
on opening night, opening weekend, the next week,
even crowds just going crazy for everything.
I saw it with Trenton Theaters.
We sat in the front row, which that tells you how much, you know,
how important this movie was that we were willing to sit in the front row. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Saw it with Jeff D. Lowe, that whole squad on opening night.
This opening scene is actually pretty good.
I forgot all about this opening scene is actually pretty good i forgot all about
this opening scene um you definitely get like uh what's the name of wonder woman's uh place
what's the name of uh uh amazon like the amazons wherever like that's what i feel like wakanda's
like they're on the outside seeing like the world war as they kind of just build their society and all the idiots of mankind fight each other and all that stuff.
I forgot about the whole vibranium story and all that stuff too.
And obviously it's so important to MCU and Marvel in general.
Well, it's interesting too because Wakanda is like one of the first quote unquote fictional places in the Marvel universe.
Not like we got New York.
We got Oakland.
We're in Oakland right now.
Like Marvel's always been the one to use real cities.
So it's interesting to be like, all right,
there is a place that now doesn't exist
within the world we know.
Yep.
And this is Oakland because Ryan Coogler grew up there.
He said he wanted to find some way to get
where he grew up into Black Panther.
I love that it's the 90eties too, obviously. Yeah.
No breaking news. I'm a big nostalgia guy for the nineties.
And he says, Tim Hardaway style there,
shadow the golden state warriors run TMC and all that stuff.
Yeah. I love, obviously they had that with captain Marvel too,
where they flash back to the nineties. This is giving me.
Yeah.
Those vibes here and some of the music and stuff.
Great soundtrack on both.
Yep.
So I actually just rewatched this on Saturday as well, last Saturday.
The day after Chadwick died, I woke up and I was just,
I hadn't seen this in a while.
I was like, fuck it, I'm going to throw it on.
And I'm glad that I did because I'll be able to point out some things
on the commentary that are fresh in the brain.
This scene in particular, this scene is tremendous.
This is as good as a Mission Impossible twist, I feel like.
Yeah, I remember this.
I don't even remember how it happened.
I just remember being blown away and I was like, oh, it's like that, huh?
Black Panther, the kind of movie we're dealing with here.
You got to start strong with a movie like this, right?
With a movie that had the expectations that this one did.
Because remember, this isn't the first time we're meeting T'Challa.
We met him in Civil War, and we actually got the setup for this movie in Civil War
when his father, T'Chaka, is bombed by Baron Zemo, and he dies.
That's right.
That would be him right here.
He's a badass looking Black Panther too, right?
He's got like the tribal scarf across the armor.
Yep.
Cool looking.
You can see T'Challa in him too, right?
Like he did a good job.
They've always done that.
Marvel's done a good job in casting everything basically,
but that's another one where they hit it out of the park.
Casting across the board in this movie,
I would say is maybe its biggest strength.
I love,
obviously Chadwick Boseman is T'Challa.
That's,
that's one of those brilliant castings where you could never imagine someone
else's actually T'Challa.
Someone else might fill the black Panther role one day. I would assume they will, is actually T'Challa. Someone else might fill the Black Panther role one day.
I would assume they will, but not T'Challa.
Forrest Whitaker, perfect.
Michael B. Jordan, perfect.
Latita Wright, perfect.
Andy Serkis in a live-action role.
Usually people put him behind mo-cap.
Nope, they put him in live-action here.
Brought him back as Ulysses Klaw, perfect.
Really, really good casting the the messed up thing is i love michael b jordan so much because he's been my
guy through the wire through friday night lights creed a whole bunch of other things i was almost
like rooting for killmonger during this entire thing you know what i mean i was like this isn't
right i shouldn't be rooting for the bad guy right now but he's another one of those villains that they you know they made him yeah
they made him make sense and there's the twist right there that both of them were wakandan spies
yep
awesome I didn't um I didn't read Black Panther growing up I really didn't read a lot of
Marvel outside of uh X I mean comic books in general was a lot of X-Men was I was heavy
X-Men occasionally some Spider-Man it's funny too because like I didn't read Iron Man even
though he's my guy all that kind of stuff um so i didn't really know much about wakanda and all that stuff but
just like you you find out how important it is throughout like you said one of the first ones
in the universe and um i think it's going to clearly be obviously based on the black panther
and a whole bunch of other stuff uh centerpiece going forward here which makes sense that's some crazy shit yeah and it's sad because before you
know months ago we did a podcast and i remember us talking about like who who's the leader of
the avengers now who's the face of them and i think we were kind of like it's probably black
panther right like he leads a country it might be dr stranger remember we said it might be
captain marvel but i remember us being like it might be black panther it kind of made sense too i thought i thought yeah it's weird being like we'll never
see him in that role again like it's it's fucked up to think about it's almost like the kobe one
where it doesn't it's hard for it to set in it's hard to make it set in and make it feel real you
know yep fuck i mean like yeah you can go back there like goddamn 2020 where it really is
like every single day i mean we're taping this on thursday so wednesday night tom seaver passed
away and obviously he he was older and he he had known the health issues for years but it's like
god fucking damn this year man i mean i feel like we'll go through all the mommy mom's basement
from 2020 and it's just going to be hit after hit in a bad way. You know,
God knows what else we've discussed in the last year. But yeah,
I would have said, I would have said probably like,
if the good people at Penn national gaming had their like odds for who would
have been the next leader of the Avengers, it probably would have been black
Panther. Probably would have been the smart money I think to put on it.
Right. Yeah.
Especially after the way they framed the whole portal scene, right?
And he was the first one.
He kind of gave Tony the nod.
Not that it was a passing of the torch in that moment, but it like,
you know, it was a nod of respect.
They're on the same level.
Yeah, because, I mean, that scene, I don't have to tell you how much i got goosebumps just thinking about that oh yeah um i actually watched that the night because i've
been i've been calling steve cohen thanos for so long he's just become thanos the night i was so
happy he had he had begotten the meds i just kept watching the portal scene even though it's the
scene that is the end of thanos and they could have chose any character in the universe to be
the first one coming out like you think of that scene you think Cap and then you think Black Panther because
that was the first thing there and the bum bum bum and then even when he the Wakanda chant I mean
that's the thing that kind of just gets you just completely hyped before uh Cap gets Mjolnir so
I mean I think of the crowd just losing their mind for that i think of
back to infinity war there's a few moments in that like the moment where cap says like i know a place
and the the tribal drums just start playing and the crowd like cheered for that initially and
black panther had only come out two months prior to infinity war it was fresh in our brains and
people were cheering for it like it was something that they were nostalgic for you know like they had 20 years of fandom into which some people
might have but i would assume the general marvel fan in the theater didn't yep i love this this
scene by the way this scene is like you know he's in the shadows it's sort of batman-esque
yeah i was gonna say a little batman dark knight era batman-esque right there
but it's like if you're if you're looking for a black panther you need one of these
to make the people fear him make the people be like he is a real panther
i was saying panthers don't get enough love in general panthers leopards they've kind of been
forgotten about as an as a big cat.
I agree.
I think lions and tigers have really just taken over.
I think it's to the detriment.
I think bears in general.
I could have a whole thing about bears, how bears are underrated.
But panthers and leopards are on that list as well, my humble opinion.
I agree that bears are underrated.
When we did that drive-through safariari me glennie and za we saw
the bears and they were one of the most fun animals to look at because they were all chilling
they had like their legs kicked up on the side laying on their side i mean you want to talk
spirit animals a bear is my spirit animal it hibernates in the winter it's very happy just
hanging out and underratedly athletic. They can move a little,
just like me. You wouldn't know it, but they can.
Yeah. Oh, you watch a bear go
up a tree? Joe Rogan will tell you
right away.
Maybe I'll be known as the Maple Bear
instead of the Maple Bear.
I like that.
Not Canadian again.
Not even 1% Canadian.
I bet the Canadians would take you as like an honorary Canadian.
You can get dual citizenship.
Some of the best nights of my life are the limited times I've gone to Canada.
Maybe the best night of my life was in Toronto,
just going out with some buddies and we had a wonderful time.
Stones Pub, which actually, Rolling Stones, it's their pub.
Stones Pub was one of the, Stones Place, stones pub was one of the stones place excuse me
one of the most unbelievable times i've had in my life we were just on the dance floor night
wedding music kind of music was being played it was so much fun we were buying full beers
and waters and we were dumping the beers on each other and drinking and it was just fine and there
was a bachelorette party there and everyone was just having fun it was good clean fun nothing
crazy it was the most
fun i've ever so if anyone shout out to my people toronto stone's place wow during the black panther
i mean best night of your life i never heard that story before it's on the list i was it's like it's
it's on the short list because i have some buddies this was our baseball trip we do base
it used to do baseball trips we go like three stadiums rent a van and just like six guys would just go out have some fun go out for the bars and then
hit up some baseball stadiums that we've never been to and that was the Toronto portion of the
trip and it was and everyone said like one of the best nights of my life so it was it was awesome
wow little Clem anecdote I hope the bar gets some pub when they reopen, if they are reopened.
Yeah.
I mean, shoot.
I feel like Canada probably has already passed COVID for all I know.
I feel like they just do things.
I mean, they wouldn't even let the Blue Jays play this season.
You know?
True.
We were like the bad neighbors that couldn't get their crap together.
I'm like, no, you're not allowed to play with them right now. They're going through some stuff down there in that neighborhood.
I love how that suit, like the way the suit absorbs the energy and yeah i love this too the first introduction of wakanda they just make it look so
big and and they make it look like its own world you know not just like its own city. Do we know Wakanda location, like where this is?
I'm sure somewhere in like the MCU encyclopedia,
you know, whoever runs that, the Frank the Tank of the MCU,
has that listed down somewhere, I'm sure.
Yeah, so here, so in the MCUcu it's never gets old kenya ethiopia uganda and south sudan
just north of lake kirkana at a point bordering kenya ethiopia uganda and south sudan
where was this shot i just don't know what shot
is wakanda a real country that's on the google people
i wish i wish yeah for real this you know what this looks like this looks like um
acon land or whatever like the i've seen like the utopia
the the thing he's building right now the african nation with his the acon cryptocurrency and like
some of the like futuristic drawings like look like some of the buildings here. It's actually kind of crazy.
I wonder if they use like Wakanda as some of the,
some of like the inspiration for it. It's, and it's again, like the meme,
the utopia meme, you know, if, if the Wilpons sold the Mets,
this is what Flushing would look like. It's just awesome.
I love, I think they won the oscar for costume design i'm pretty sure they did so cool across the board i mean i'm not saying anything there that hasn't been said already
but like look at the way the black panther's mother's dressed
like who thinks of that you know what i mean who designs that and then even shuri is like the
teenager and she's kind of dressed as like you know it's it looks like she's kind of
rebelling and she's just wearing a t-shirt and but she's still got some of the african garb on and
they nailed it they nailed it this is my favorite part of the entire movie by the way
from the first time i watched it up until saturday up until now uh the relationship between
t'challa and shirt and it's sad now to look back at because i think it was ryan coogler who said
you know i think it was ryan coogler who said that that Chadwick Boseman did everyone's casting calls.
So when they cast him as Black Panther and then they had to cast the whole movie around him, he would show up and he would read lines opposite all of these people, which is not typical for an actor of his caliber to do.
Usually you'll let a casting director do that or something.
He showed up and they said from the moment Latita Wright walked in the studio, they just had
this chemistry that was like brother and sister.
And it's something that you can't fake.
So every time I see that, it kind of
comes through a little. And now,
you know, the whole movie's
somber to look back on.
What hell if he doesn't give a fucking
awesome performance? He went
balls to the wall.
And now, for the introduction of
Killmonger.
Some museum stuff here.
I like
a little...
This is the kind of villain we're dealing with. He's going
to museums and stuff. You know what I mean?
You're dealing with a different caliber here.
Yeah.
It's usually just a dude in like, in his lab, you know.
In his lair, yeah.
He's got a thousand monitors.
And he's also got the dopest haircut I've ever seen.
Everything he's wearing, that denim jacket.
Michael B. Jordan, just one of the coolest guys on the
planet is it all or denim jackets in i don't i won't even know oh yeah i feel like big in
with that right there and that like inner fleece or you know the fur on the inside that just
yeah those are in.
Didn't your boy OBJ have one of those that said like Hollywood on it?
Yeah.
You know what?
Yeah.
If OBJ, that's a good point.
I'm pretty sure he's worn one.
And if he has it, it's in.
It's so in, I couldn't even see if it was in.
That's why I have to ask other people if it's in,
because that's how deep obj goes
this is so well done this whole scene reminds me of the jokers first scene in the dark night a
little bit just in how like everything was so articulately planned or meticulously planned
god i'm so not articulate that i said it was articulately planned
we're gonna say over under articulate how many more times is i'm gonna put a
i know i know it's just gonna be that word that we get stuck on
black panther commentary an articulate podcast
i like that too they let the people run around a bit before they shoot them make it look like
they're not as good as they are yep yep it's like uh the um stormtro. It's supposed to look like Tusken Raiders, right?
Yeah.
Well, I actually have a funny story in relation to this
that I could tell now.
So I spill an entire green tea on my computer about two weeks ago,
an entire cup of green tea right onto the laptop.
Panic, flip the thing over right away.
Run a fan underneath it.
Everything seems fine.
Keys are a little sticky, but everything seems fine for the first few days.
Everything's working.
Big sigh of relief.
And then it starts not working.
I start plugging my computer in.
Everything is fine, but it'll die.
Even if it's plugged in, the battery will go down.
It'll stay a little longer than if it had not
been plugged in but it'll still go down and die so i say fuck i bring it to pete and i say all
biz pete what should i do with this computer explain the whole situation to him and he says
bring it to apple if you can that'll that that's just easiest for us uh but you can't tell him you
spilled anything on it because spill care is the only thing not covered with Apple care.
So he's like, just lie to him.
I was like, oh, Jesus Christ.
You know me.
I'm an anxious kid.
I'm like, I'm going to go on Apple.
I'm going to lie to these people.
They're going to be like, did you spill something?
Was it Arizona green tea?
I'm going to be sweating.
So I bring it into the Apple store.
And I show it to him.
And the guy starts telling me nothing's wrong with it, and I'm like, no, no,
but like something's wrong with it, and I'm trying not to tell him that I spilled an entire green tea
on my keyboard, but he's telling me it's fine, and I just was like, sir, something is wrong with it.
I know something's wrong with it. He's like, how do you know? did you do something to it and i was like no no but to act dumb and to act dumber than i was he's like did anything happen to this computer in the
past two weeks and i said yeah i got on a flight to las vegas i think maybe the altitude did it
and i knew that you know that's not gonna fuck a computer but that was my little
covid operation to seem like a dumb guy what What it was, by the way, if anyone's curious, was a charger.
I also spilled green tea on the charger, and apparently that's what was broken the whole time.
So what did it do?
It fried the charger.
The computer's good.
The charger's wonky.
So I bought a new charger, and it's fine.
Is it like where the charger goes in, like that part?
Or the cord to the –
Like the big box that plugs into the wall.
Oh, so yeah, you're Gucci, man.
That's the best case scenario basically, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love that.
I've been like, oh, maybe the guy just threw TSA under the bus.
Like they get enough crap.
Oh, yeah.
My buddy hit him with those TSA guys.
All right. We should talk about the movie though. People going to be like guys this is like the black panther coronation scene
one of the most colorful scenes in the entire movie
i think it was chadwick himself who made the call to have all of the tribes dancing as he was made black Panther as well.
Cause I think it was Ryan Coogler or someone said,
and I read this last week, he was like, if we're not dancing,
what separates us from the ancient Romans?
Like let's make this look as African as possible. Let's make this look,
you know,
like it could be from any
country in our nation or any country in our continent. You cringe watching that when you
see all his veins pop out, his eyes go red plays that pain well and one of my favorite moments in the movie is coming up
um you know i mean spoilers if you haven't seen this movie we're gonna spoil it but mbaku is
about to come out and challenge him for the the throne and mbaku goes to make this big grand challenge and he goes i am mbaku son of and uh
chadwick boseman just cuts him off and t'challa right away says i accept your challenge
and it's such a cool like he is the king in that moment already
you know what i mean like he he's he's not taking any shit i like i like this as a um part of the
ceremony where everyone gets to kind of throw their their guy out there and challenge for it
i like that that twist to it and it's a nice like respect thing in the in the final moments before
he's made king like the way he gives the the Wakanda forever to all of them. Yep.
And just getting to kind of like meet all the,
all the different tribes there.
Yep.
Kind of gives you like a little insight into Wakanda.
I love that they all have their own colors basically too,
right?
Like the green tribe,
the orange tribe,
the red tribe.
And then here
they are.
These dickheads from the elephant graveyard.
Everything
the light touches is coming out hot.
Yeah.
Badass mask.
They have a good chant too. come on forest you know what he's doing here this guy get bigger
this guy was small i thought this guy was smaller in my like when i i'm fine
nah he's a pretty big dude.
Pretty big dude, actually. It was just that angle, I think.
Yeah.
You're gonna remember this guy being bigger when I saw this movie.
No, he's huge.
Coming at the sister? What you doing, bro?
I know. That's like...
Bro, that reminds me of when Vader brought up
Leia in Return to the Jedi.
That's when you're going to get it. You don't bring up the younger sister.
And then the father, like he's just going low blow city. This, this is,
you know, Conor McGregor and the lead up to his fights.
He tries to get into the mind of his opponent. He tries to break them mentally.
This is Mbaku just trying to break T'Challa mentally.
Get a little Ric Flair on right now.
Poke him in the eye, do the whole thing.
There it is.
T'Challa not letting him get that entire challenge out.
He's just like, let let's go let's do it
get the drums going get the black panther mask on
and this is all soundstage like everything uh the cliffs are real and the water's real
but everything beyond the water is blue screen, green screen,
stuff like that.
I've seen the behind-the-scenes footage of it.
It's really cool.
This is a great fight scene as well, one of the best in the movie.
I like this because the ending fight scene between Killmonger
and Black Panther gets a little too CGI-y
for me. A little too
video game-y.
But this one is just
straight fighting. We're fighting on the edge of a cliff,
high stakes.
And it's like
the most advanced civilization in the world
but it's kind of just mano a mano.
Yes.
I like that.
The way it's shot, like that
frees to slow-mo and then you go
under the water there.
Water looks refreshing too.
It's either refreshing or it's like a casino water
where it looks good but it's
chlorine and casino that you know
it's not legit.
Imagine being there there just being like one of the people in a tribe that doesn't really have much uh you know stakes one way or the other like
you don't really care who's king and just being like oh shit oh shit they're fighting they're
gonna fight they're gonna fight they're gonna do it i would love to see the African Larry David gif of some African guy like,
eh.
Yeah.
He's fine either way or he doesn't like you.
Is there an African like octagon Bob covering the fight in the front row
just losing his mind when Black Panther wins?
He's total T'Challa Stan.
Oh, this is brutal.
Takes a spear out of his chest.
Fucking spear to the chest, man.
God damn it.
Shout out to Latita Wright for playing the Concerned Sister Well role.
Or role well.
Yes. roll or roll well yes oh my goodness
when the what is it when the audience when your freedom or whatever it's like the gladiator
scene where they're all just yeah spaniard i they're pretty good yep tapped him out
herb dean steps in it is all over
what would you rather do would you rather make your arch nemesis tap out or would you rather do? Would you rather make your arch nemesis tap out or would you rather knock him
out?
That's like a good question.
It's a good question,
man.
And it's tough because like Khabib made Connor do it.
You know,
he made him tap out.
Sorry.
I know that's the first thing I thought of when you said it,
I think it might be tap out.
You know,
the,
the instinct is to say knockout because you'll have the clip forever.
Oh, I knocked you out, whatever.
But they could always be like, oh, you caught me at a weird thing.
Like you, I don't know.
I wasn't looking, whatever.
If you tapped out, it's like, no, no, no.
You gave up because I was going to kill you.
A knockout, yeah.
Knockout is a knockout where it could have you know it's impressive but you
can catch it anyone on a on a punch right and that's kind of the beauty of usc but like i think
that was the thing where they said where stone cold doesn't give up against brett hart and that's
kind of what made him like stone cold is he would never even give up or you make your guy give up
it's like you bowed out to me and i kind of bent the knee. Yeah. And I think of like, you think of when you're a kid and your brother's like, say uncle.
Here's that Wakandan 3G.
Wakandan 3G.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like this.
3G.
You're listening.
Throw that as one of the products in the future.
I think that has legs I
you're gonna a purple strain yeah but can you like spell Wakanda differently but everyone
just like kind of sounds like oh I'm gonna try that and make it purple and uh
uh quite possibly Clem we'll look into it yeah I think we have something here Bob it's like when we do a barstool shirt and we try to make it look just to the point of the
cease and desist without going over the cease and desist yes you just have to find where it is
that's the check that girl the Jacksonvilleville jaguars cult is down right there imagine
the jacksonville jaguars color tribe that's a tough break
yeah going back to civil war here
and then this scene this upcoming scene is a true gut punch
especially now at the time of the movie i don't even you know it was it was emotional
one of the first tweets i saw after he had passed away was just like a
screenshot of this scene, him here. It's like, yeah, we don't,
we could only hope.
Yeah. I didn't see it. That's something.
Yeah. Oh yeah. Yup. I remember the Panthers and the tree too.
Yeah. That shit was cool. So cool. Awesome. I don't know what they're called,
but they're
awesome those trees yeah africa in general man that's one of those places that i don't think
i'll ever get to but it's like number one on the bucket list is just getting and doing like a
legitimate like seeing africa and what it's all about. It's just.
Should have tagged along with his on Donnie.
Meeting the Zah family.
I mean,
there's no one in the world. I think I'd want to be more than just the people responsible.
Beautiful man.
Great line. Stand up. you are a king this place just i mean and i know it's supposed to look like like that place just feels comfortable that's just room temperature everything's just good there you
know yeah we're just feeling in a good spot yeah if that's what heaven looks like the afterlife exactly count me in
hopefully no bugs i was just gonna say no bugs
first thing i thought i see that high grass i'm like no bugs no bugs
yeah yeah it's like i made it to heaven. Ah, there's bugs here. God.
That's the line.
That's the line.
That's tough.
By the way, don't discount T'Challa's heaven suit here.
That's a strong heaven suit. Oh, yeah.
It's like, I wonder if it's just the white version of what he wears
as black panther you know the scene like where he is just talking to sherry and they're working
on the suit like what he's wearing in that scene i wonder if that's just the white version i could
see that for sure i always loved that in wrestling when someone that would always wear black came out and white for the night. Like Seth Rollins has done that.
Just a cool alternate.
Whenever they, whenever they just go like a one 80 on what they do usually do.
And they just change it up. I always did that.
Which that's another thing that I love about wrestling that the MCU kind of
does is when a
character you didn't know was in the movie just appears out of nowhere you know what i mean yeah
and it's like and that's the thing is the internet ruins everything because i remember back in the
nine late 90s when i was on the wrestling message boards and stuff and finding out oh this guy was
seen backstage at raw he's gonna be making a debut and i was always like i can't imagine being
someone who actually just didn't know that was happening and like same with all the stuff that
happens in civil War on.
It's like, oh yeah, there's Black Panther, there's Spider-Man, there's all these guys.
Yeah.
This is a cool, this is a cool like little glimpse into a different side of Wakanda.
Yes.
I like that it's, there's like a, it's like a marketplace, you know, it's not just all
the ice society. It's like, it's a real place with,
I mean, it looks pretty damn awesome there too. You know, not,
not saying it's a, it's like any city it's got culture. Yeah.
It's got culture, but it's a nice culture, which I just did.
Just, well, I'm also,
I just blogged a rat and a pigeon fighting each other to the New York city.
So I was going to throw New York city under the bus for being
dirty. But, uh, you know, that was just one video.
Yeah. I mean, that wasn't even, I thought that happened in September.
Like when, as everyone says, New York city is dead.
That video was from may.
So at least it makes me feel like it was before things had gone the way
everything's gone in the world. It's still nonetheless.
Trent was just going off to the office and he was getting all this stuff
together, putting his shoes on.
And I got a notification from the citizen app on my phone that said like,
let me see if it's still on there.
It said like man assaulting officer at grand central with object.
And that's where we take the train from.
I was just like, you might want to uber today you
know the city is not the best place in the world right now i thought you were gonna say trent you
thought it was trent who assaulted oh no no no never he's another honorary canadian yeah exactly
for sure oh goddamn rhinos oh so that's the other reason to go to africa just see like
basically dinosaurs walking
around like fucking rhinoceros fun fact though zah had never seen one before we went to the
six flag safari huh not a lot of rhinos in zimbabwe not where he's from at least
that's the thing i feel like yeah different parts of africa probably completely different
like everywhere else right you go to you know from
new york to like not even that far like maryland and the the animals and the locations and this
the general ecosystem changes so much yeah what do you got up by you animal wise other than the
birds that i know like by me in jersey we got turkeys, we got deer. Sometimes we got coyotes, which are no good with small dogs, obviously.
Coyotes is a problem.
We have deer, squirrels, some chipmunks.
Oh, yeah, we got some chipmunks.
We got some chipmunks and rabbits.
I used to have bunnies where my parents are, which is just a block away.
And I loved it.
I would just look at my bunnies all day long. It was before are which is just a block away and i loved i would
just look at my bunnies all day long it was before now i'm a bird guy i was a bunny guy growing up i
just don't see him some woodchucks here and there the woodchucks are nice and plump i love just
seeing those guys just waddle their way through trying to go into hiding and we had our hawks
our hawks are gone i don't know if they leave after the spring i haven't seen my hawks it got
to the point we had three giant hawks and they were
like just they were on my porch five feet from where i leave and they would like zoom past my
head like a bird would except those things if they hit me i'm like unconscious yeah it's like
the staircase with the owl theory they'll have the clem owl theory the hawk theory
so yeah okanda would probably be a much bigger
big trip, a big change for us.
Yeah.
What's going on there?
I like the way they do their meetings too with
a representative from each tribe.
The throne room is cool.
Yep.
I was thinking like that, that's how they should have done Yep.
I was thinking, like, that's how they should have done Game of Thrones.
Like, King's Landing, there should have been someone from Dorne,
someone from Winfell.
I mean, even on the – I mean, they might have had that somewhere.
I didn't read the books.
They just didn't show it in the show, but that would have made a lot of sense.
But I guess that helps a thriving kingdom, and it wasn't exactly thriving by the end of by the end of the thrones that's what
joe rogan says we should have as a like a president he says we should have no president it should be
like a bunch of people it should be 15 people we should have a president of this president of that
president of this he's like it's way too much for one guy to take care of.
Checks and balances along all the way.
And I guess that makes it easier if you don't have one person just to have all those checks and balances.
Nice.
That's so good.
That's just, that's them, you know, like that's chemistry.
You can't fake.
You can't act through those smiles and through this dialogue.
It's you can, you would have to be an amazing actor,
which both of these people are,
but it just bleeds through that they were really friendly in real life.
They come off like brother and sister, which is hard to do as well.
Like, yeah, that's exactly it. That, cause I mean,
if you have a brother or a sister or both,
you know what kind of relationship, and that's what it is right there.
It's like such a comfortability.
Yep.
Now, you were thinking she might become the new Iron Man in the future,
right, based on her technological prowess and stuff?
Yeah, I definitely don't think that anymore.
I think
she will probably have to
assume the role of Black Panther.
Which she would be my
number one choice to do so as well.
Chow having some straight up
old man say. That's what Large wears.
I hate to say,
but he actually has like the separate big toe thing,
but the big toe is covered and the stool roasted him for it.
Absolutely.
Well,
I,
what's so funny is I tried to roast him for it in the office once and he counter roasted me.
I saw those sandals and I was like,
large,
what the fuck are you wearing?
And he's like my sandals.
And I was like, yeah, in the city, you savage. I i said you got on the train with those he said robbie i haven't
gotten the train in 20 years oh large yeah all right but yeah he gets hit with a what are those
yep and it's i think because he has gout which is such a it's like that's like the rich man's
disease too right so it's like he drives like drives like a nice custom sedan into the city every day
and has gout because he's living that large –
he feels for himself every single night.
So if you zing large, you'll get zing back.
Oh, yeah.
He'll get you.
Oh, yeah.
He'll get you.
He'll get you.
You got to come back stronger.
The new Black Panther suit.
Kaboom.
Incredibly dope.
And not only just for the reason that Clem was talking about before,
where, you know, it bounces the energy back off,
but because it lights the suit up purple and it just looks so cool when it's purple yes the purple the purple uh charge is is one of my favorite things about it and i
forgot that i was when he was fighting oh wait that's right he has the charge because i know
they do that in uh let's pick an end game he does with the charge oh yeah and infinity war
does it infinity war oh yeah yeah when him and cap are like running to the border and they're
running faster than everyone else and they start fighting he starts hitting it if you watch the
battlefield you like start seeing it go off that's great this is like um delete that footage
you know when you get like a new computer for the first time and it's just so much faster
and everything just looks nicer and it's just like so crisp or any kind of technology yeah like
i couldn't imagine like having like my own killer suit that i'm basically trying out that my sister
made for me because she's a genius with the most incredible technology in the world
look at how these three clean up by the way for casino night
i love how much okay hates the uh wig
that's another another role they nailed right in terms of casting totally i mean i couldn't
imagine like i don't know how
else you play that who else plays it you'd have to i almost feel like you'd have to have a different
person there like a different character and i mean i could be wrong but like that that's just
as much a part of the entire black panther um dynamic as anything else basically and not just
this but then the avengers movies too shout out uh deny guerrera i hope i'm
saying her name right i'm so bad with name pronunciations and lapita nuago a black panther
and star wars actress a little taste of kendrick lamar for the first time yep the weekend uh i
remember when this came out um obviously it was with the movie and stuff like that,
and I was like, oh, this is going to be huge.
I thought The Weeknd was going to be bigger.
The Weeknd had his – I don't know if it was his first album or second album,
right around the time Bruno had one of his albums.
I thought Bruno – Bruno was my guy from basically like day one, maybe day two.
And I thought The Weeknd was going to kind of follow that trajectory, do super bowl he hasn't really you know bruno swept the grammys he had record of
the year album of the year song of the year he's kind of hit this other he has a disney movie
coming out which i forgot all about that was in february 2020 he was having his own disney movie
and i completely forgot about it that's how bad 2020 has been it's like the last good thing to
happen right i said we're gonna get better till that movie comes out like that was the bookend
that would bookend like this all this shit uh and i thought the weekend was gonna kind of go
with that too now he's a little i think bruno's a little more like laid back and i think the
weekend like the party a little more have a little more fun may not be his focus sometimes because
he's his own planet, that guy.
He's crazy.
He did have a big role in – what's it called, though?
Uncut Gems.
Yeah, yeah.
Playing The Weeknd, though.
Yeah, yeah, Julia Rose feeling him up.
Or Julia Fox.
Yep, yep.
I'm confusing her with Julia Rose, the World Series flasher.
Julia Rose, I watched Are You the One? That wasasher julia rose i watched are you the one that was the
only season i've ever watched that show that's where she like that was her like debut on tv or
whatever she was like the helen of troy every guy basically like tripped over themselves trying to
get with her and it screws up being like the house would just be in fights because every guy wanted
to end up with her because you have one match based on like stuff you fill out and i was like
that girl is like the most stunning girl.
I couldn't even like put in the words and just seeing she's become like this
like mega star, basically this smoke show of the planet is crazy to see in real
time. Cause she's someone else that, again, I saw her from day one.
I was like, Oh my God, that chick is just out of this world.
She also dominates the Barstool blog ever since that world series flashing,
you put Julia Rose in a headline, you're getting page views.
I want to say I'm the first one who blogs Julia Rose too,
way back like a smoke show with a day back when we used to do those,
like, you know, whatever.
And now it's another whole other level.
Shout out Stan the Man.
The infamous Francesa, who's Stan Lee?
Yeah.
Remember that eulogy?
Well, last night when Tom – did you see the Tom Seaver one that Francesa had?
Yeah.
He goes – for anyone who didn't see, he goes like – so Tom Seaver just dies,
and he goes –
Legendary Mets pitcher for those that don't know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he goes, what was it again?
Shoot.
He said someone else was the most dominant pitcher of all time.
Yeah, yep, yep.
And he just called Seaver more consistent.
So Sadie Kovacs is the most dominant pitcher I've ever seen,
but the most consistent professional was Tom Seaver, an amazing performer, RIP.
It's like, Mike, you don't have to include that first sentence there.
No, not at all.
So I love that scene right there.
It's a subtle scene where Klaue and his goons, like, arrive in their Escalades
and they just walk in through security like it was nothing.
Like, after everyone else meticulously went through,
I said that word again, you could hit the dinger on meticulous.
After everyone else had to like put everything through the metal detectors
and everything though, they all just walk in, set everything off,
and nobody questions them.
I love that because I've literally seen Conor McGregor and his squad do that.
I've seen them walk into like the T-Mobile arena
and just like every metal detector in the
world goes off and i don't think they have guns on that i don't know what his bodyguards have on
them but nobody questions him because he's conor mcgregor that's awesome no that that was as soon
as i saw the detector when the when when black panther went through i was like oh this is one
of those scenes it's just it's awesome that's, I feel like there's another movie or video game or something that has that.
But yeah, that's a badass scene.
And also shout out to the guy who they're talking to.
I don't know his name.
This guy, the guy from Fargo.
That guy was awesome in Fargo.
So his name in real life is Martin Freeman.
His name in this movie is Everett K. Ross.
He's great in this movie.
I think he's a lot like,
and this will be the second Mission Impossible reference of the podcast, but me and Trent have been re-watching
all those movies. We just finished him last night. But he's kind of like Simon Pegg's character in
Mission Impossible to me. I love that move, throwing the wig in his face.
She was dying, dying to get that wig up nothing worse than
when you have a wig or a mustache or something you don't like on halloween and it just stays in
your head the entire time so that's all i could think about is just i got a hat on i got a wig
on i got a wig on i got a wig on i got a wig on i think there's a cool one shot in this in this
whole scene coming up that uses like CG and everything.
It goes up into the barriers, into the columns.
Should be here, yeah.
Pretty cool one shot.
Yep, yep.
I think we go back down to with it.
You could see the hidden cut there.
Chadwick Boseman did a pretty good amount of martial arts training for this movie too saw some videos come out after he passed in in like the MMA community people were posting them
he was doing that when he was sick too yeah huh fucking crazy. Yeah.
That was sweet too.
That,
that little hand,
the majority of the claw,
whatever you want to call it.
I made it rain.
That's the thing.
Like I always love Marvel does keep every,
every Marvel movie has usually the comedic relief in there.
I mean,
some more,
but,
uh, I'm just a little bit. They keep relief in there. I mean, I'm just a little bit to keep it in there.
And the tech they're about to show here is so cool.
Sure. He could drive this car for him in a different country
like that's one of the coolest things in the movie to me yeah it's always like the bond kind
of stuff when you see it and then it kind of does make the movie and it's a cool way to like
basically put this character,
Shuri,
who shouldn't really be in danger.
It doesn't make sense for her character to be in danger.
She's the tech,
technological one.
She needs to be in Wakanda,
like helping people,
but she wants the danger.
She has that adrenaline rush in her.
It's a good way to put that in her,
but you don't involve the stakes.
Like it doesn't make,
you know,
wouldn't make sense for her to be with him. Yeah that i like how they wrote that for sure the other person that
then they're driving with the bare feet like if you've ever driven in bare feet you know that
that's not easy it's not easy it's weird to do yeah i wear slip-on vans all the time so i've
like slipped my foot out of the vans and then you know you put your foot on the pedal for a second or something and it's always weird it's just a different feel
it's like if you're in the pool you just like hey can someone just move the car and you're like
you can't like throw your shoes on or something and you're just like all right and you do you're
like wow how could how would people do and i i it may not be right but i feel like it is illegal
at least in some states or someone told me that whether Whether or not it's true, I think that's true.
It feels like it should be true, right?
Definitely.
So primitive.
I love that
they're constantly just looking at people like they're idiots.
That's how articulate people are viewing this podcast.
Yeah, exactly.
What a move.
Stop a car dead in its tracks with a spear he's built up all that all that uh vibranium compression whatever you want to call it
the kinetic energy there you go
and is this is this like the um i feel like one of these live action shots was in the commercial
i think this one was yeah yeah this one right here
yeah this is very chase you're you're usually european movie you know i'm not usually a big
chase guy um oh you're not interesting i've never well no like and it's not it's just like
i like some of them i don't like chase scenes i'm not a chasing guy and there's that's always
every you know like there's five things in every bomb move right that's one of them oh yeah um i
like the other things about Bond.
I love the gadgets.
The women are usually pretty good.
And then there's a couple other things.
But I do like chase scenes when there are superheroes involved and stuff like that.
We were talking about chase scenes because it's another Mission Impossible thing.
And I mentioned to Trent last night that I actually love me a good chase scene.
I feel like people get really upset when I tell them.
Because like Bourne, another one.
Oh, yeah.
Because I'm not a chasing guy.
But I also feel like – definitely not always the case.
But I think a lot of people who love chase scenes are big car people.
I'm also not a car person.
I'm not a car person.
Yeah.
I'm with you there.
Yeah.
All right. Now you've lost the cheat code of your sister,
so now you have to go do it by yourself, buddy.
Yeah.
He's like, I'm going to rip the wheel off, see what happens.
Awesome.
I like this whole environment, too, because it's so different from Wakanda.
Like nighttime, neon lights, rainy.
Good way to make the movie well-rounded
in just the way that it looks.
I'll take that arm. it's perfect uh wwf heel move there to talk shit until you're dead to rights and then it's like
oh please please no mercy please i swear and they've got claw saying you savages didn't deserve it
some some racism there probably some subtle racism maybe not so subtle yeah I don't know.
Is this guy in other stuff?
I don't know this guy.
I don't know this guy I don't know I've got the IMDB pulled up so I can actually
tell you quickly
oh he's Bilbo from the Hobbit in the Lord of the Rings movies
ha
okay
duh
I forgot
because he fucking looks completely different now
with the gray hair instead of the long hair I forgot because he fucking looks completely different now.
With the gray hair instead of the long hair.
I'm sure the people listening to this podcast, the Tolkien heads,
just fucking their heads exploded when you said that.
Anything else?
I feel like that's another one I've seen. I and i loved uh i think i read the hobbit a
couple times growing up but i'm just not a big lord of the rings guy i gave him a shot i gave
him a chance just never a fan um don't want to anger them too much but like you said all the
time like in clerks it's just a lot of walking yeah what a cool hoodie he's wearing is that a
wakandan hoodie or you think he he bought that while he was there?
While he was there, yeah, exactly.
He's like, I just need something.
Andy Serkis should do more live action roles I like him here
I mean we're getting that in the Batman
he'll be Alfred
by the way I don't think we talked about the Batman
we haven't
pretty pretty impressive
I will say that much
pretty fucking good I will say that much pretty fucking good
pretty excited
I'm not gonna like
there's a lot of ways
because I didn't say
like
like a lot of that
there was something
about the trailer
where it wasn't
I think there's like
a whole but I don't
I don't know what it was
if it was from the movie
or what but
I am excited
I just say that
I have
my two
Battenson shirts already.
Two different designs.
I'm all in.
Princess Bride?
They're making another
Princess Bride?
Oh, yeah.
I did hear about that.
I don't think they should do that.
No.
As someone that likes
the first movie a lot.
Unless Andre the Giant
comes back to life.
He's Snoke.
Oh, Andy Serkis?
You didn't know that?
Yeah.
Didn't know that.
He's Snoke.
He's Gollum.
He's Caesar from Planet of the Apes.
Just a mocap guy.
Oh. he should get some kind of lifetime achievement at the end of his career because you know he's
never really cast in roles that would lead to oscar nominations or anything like that
yep but now with the way the world is turning, I wouldn't be surprised if in 10 years
we get a Best Motion Capture Performance Oscar.
It does feel like it.
Just the way the awards work in general,
it does feel like they're just so backwards
or missing stuff.
I mean, hip hop for years wasn't on the Grammys, I know,
and it just wasn't given the love
and all this kind of stuff.
Planet of the Apes 2 series. hip-hop for years wasn't on the Grammys I know and it just wasn't giving the love and all this kind of stuff I'll play to the H2C it's Caesar column Snoke whatever the hell they're doing in Princess Bride blue they should cast listen I don't want them to do another Princess Bride
but you should cast the big show in it if you're doing it and he doesn't even need to play like he could be any character it could be anyone just to have
like andre the giant and then the big show yep when he came into wcw you know people said andre
the giant son yep that was he was the giant that was a good way to get to get known just throw the
giant throw the singlet on or whatever. He just had like the one shoulder.
I don't know if it was actually a singlet. And, uh,
Andre was the man.
Oh,
Oh, Uh-oh.
Comes in firing T'Challa, of course,
thinking if everybody else gets everybody else down.
I love going in with that mask, too.
I know, yeah. A typical, like...
Oh, a little cap style
except it was a fake grenade cap
that is cap style
big turning point there
he's like what the fuck
and then he sees the ring.
Shout out to Bilbo.
Bilbo Baggins.
Jumping in front of others but now already that's a big moment because it's Wakandan technology they're using it in front of others yeah it's a new regime under T'Challa he's out to help
everybody hey man i'm the king that's how we justify it motherfucking black panther you know what you're
talking about i do love though that the the silliest of stuff right superhero movies like
on surface level they're silly it's a guy in tights, right? And he's fucking fighting crime, whatever. They put up these like political and geographical problems and issues and they treat it so seriously, so earnestly. it's like damn now i'm sitting here pondering whether or not this fictional nation that
exists under a mountain should let this guy in and it's a real debate in my brain i don't like
i go back and forth i don't know should they should they not would it be better if they never
let anyone in the battle of wakanda probably wouldn't happen they would have been fine but
would the world exist if the world exists, does Wakanda not exist?
That's why it always drives me crazy
when the people who don't even watch these movies
or really pay attention to them, they criticize.
That's like the whole James Cameron thing.
It's like these movies are so much deeper than Avatar.
I know.
He says all superhero movies are the same.
Watch this movie and then watch iron man
yeah there's not a lot of similarities between them there's really not like
in the action scenes you'll say sure he fights this guy like there's big fights
but other than that story-wise they're very different this is about a guy becoming king
and dealing with the loss of his father and dealing with leadership and you know someone coming back and challenging his throne they've got movies where it's someone
dealing with alcoholism they've got movies where it's a guy dealing with trying to get back to his
daughter after he got put thrown in jail too many times you know that's ant-man for anyone being
like what the fuck movie was that?
They've got a movie about a guy who loses his hammer and has to fight his big green friend. Cold. Bonnie and clive routine uh-uh he's out for himself another uh another joker move you know
like that last guy i thought the joker and him were we're all cool they're pals uh-uh out for
myself and i you have to say like i need to say but you kind of do gain respect for the villain
that they believe in it that much you know yeah buddy you got it you got to get rid of the guy
though there in that spot i mean obviously he gets here but you can't you can't shoot her it's crazy looking when he takes his shirt off in the fight with t'challa later you see him all
over his body looks like he's got scales it's fucked up looking i wonder how they did that
makeup wise like do you think it was like just like little bumps of something was it a shirt that he was able to put on
and they were able to CGI out the collar?
I don't know.
The makeup or just everything in this one.
Tremendous.
I can check on the IMDb.
It better have.
I think it might all fall under the same category,
like makeup and design.
Won three Oscars at one for best achievement in music written for motion
pictures,
the original score best achievement in costume design and production design.
So yes,
I would assume makeup would fall under costume design and shout out to ruth e carter who was the costume designer
on this movie she worked on this she worked on malcolm x dolomite is my name
i'm still upset that infinity i knew this guy nominated for best picture but i still
thought infinity war i said thanos should have just won Best Character.
Well, look, that's another one where it's like Josh Brolin.
He probably couldn't have gotten nominated for something.
They almost need a Best Motion Capture award.
Nope. Nope. it's so funny too i didn't watch uh fast times at ridgemont high as a kid but i saw it recently
after seeing like forrest whitaker and all these like more like serious roles oh yeah
that movie and it's like oh shit young for i didn't know forrest whitaker and all these like more like serious roles. Oh yeah. In that movie.
And it's like,
oh shit,
young for,
I didn't know for,
Forrest Whitaker is one of the people I never knew was a kid.
Like he was always this age.
Yeah.
He was born looking just like that.
With the goatee.
No,
but here's the, here's the revelation.
He was young.
And when he was young he was in oakland
and james from uh condo yeah
man he's rocking the trend outfit too we've got to throw a gold chain on
trent i'm sure trent would have fight it if. We've got to throw a gold chain on Trent. I'm sure Trent would have fight it if we asked him to throw the gold chain on.
White undershirt.
I don't know if Trent would go under.
Does Trent go undershirt?
He doesn't go undershirt, does he?
I think he goes – well, he goes undershirt.
Sometimes he does like the crew neck.
He does the black crew neck and the khakis.
Okay.
If he's doing that, he'll go undershirt for sure.
Trent wanted to get like barstool chains, uh like rapper like the rockefeller chains
yeah and i'll tell you i thought there was a chance it was gonna like if someone said it to
dave at the right time on radio i was hoping i was gonna get a barstool chain have it spin
obviously oh yeah there's too many of us now unfortunately i don't think i think the budget
i mean our budget goes up too though so i i'd
really like a bar school chain i might just make all this get sienna to make you one out of paper
clips or something yeah there we go that's a heavy scene there boom yeah Great performance from Forrest.
Chadwick to everyone.
Boom. There we go. and then when I say that how do you not have a little bit of sympathy
for Killmonger
abandoned
for something that
obviously wasn't his fault in the slightest
good villains with good stories make good movies we've said that a million for something that obviously wasn't his fault in the slightest.
Good villains with good stories make good movies.
We've said that a million times, right?
Yeah. And I think it's kind of what goes on here, and then you kind of see him.
And that's kind of where I was like, I remember being like,
I'm kind of rooting for Killmonger here.
Michael B. Jordan's my guy, and he has a very fair, like,
grudge that he's clearly been holding.
I would put him at number two in mcu
villains i love loki nothing against loki but just someone that made the impact that he made
on his first movie like loki's taken you know so many movies to get to the point where he is where
he's so beloved and not that he's taken i I don't mean to put it that way, you know, but he's been in a ton of movies.
He's had a ton of opportunity to capture our imagination and our hearts and
everything.
Killmonger won it out.
And he was fucking tremendous.
Captures every scene where he's on screen.
He steals your imagination.
He steals the scene.
Yep.
Like,
yeah,
Loki, the way I feel about loki now is
much different than after the first movie with loki yeah and the first one it was a good reaction
but like it really has like hardened and calcified and i mean i got a fucking avengers movie out of
it it was the main guy in one three uh wait is he in three is he in infinity war no no but he's obviously an
end game where he kind of redeems up an end game he's in ragnarok yeah he dies a couple times in
thor 2 has a couple times i would go yeah i would go thanos killmonger, Loki. And then after that, I have no idea who you would go with.
I guess, like,
Vulture, Michael Keaton.
Well, it's
so unfair, too, because, like,
I feel like, I can't even imagine
how well, like, Marvel
would have done Magneto, because I think
Magneto, they did a good job with Magneto.
It's one of the few things I think they hit on
some of those X-Men movies, right? I shouldn't even trash the X-Men movies they were good I like
those movies yeah I like them but uh I thought Magneto like I also am a huge X-Men guy but
I think Magneto is like you that guy's a double right off the bat just by telling his story
like if if they've done with Magneto what they've done with the guys we just mentioned
I mean Grand Slam I'm using frank tank uh raw dogging uh yeah here that's how i do it
plenty balls with the balls or the raw dog scale i love it frank the tank actually did my favorite
hot dog in in the world amabil's hot dogs in little ferry new jersey where i woke up
where not where I woke up.
This guy just woke up where I grew up.
I thought that was like your way of saying when you were born.
I'm like,
wow,
that's a heck of a way to say like,
it's matrix shit.
I love how he wakes up and he's wearing like Wakanda pajamas.
That's like,
definitely like keep you at the perfect temperature.
So comfortable.
Never get caught on anything.
It's just the greatest pajamas ever. I love to get some wakandan pajamas
yes imagine a matching pajama set you and me
those little hats those little like uh uh ebonies or scrooge hats the thin pajama hats
i was like i i think i asked large and i think large says he has a nightcap
and i'm like of course he does that's the most large thing with his like uh powder blue and
white striped pajama set yes there's buttons on his pajamas like this guy's buns on his like yeah
this and that i also you have to say like this this worked out for marvel like this movie doesn't
resonate as much without the technology it does now they kind of got lucky that i don't know
waited for you know they waited for a reason for the black panther but like the technology
caught up to like the times and it worked out perfectly obviously i wonder if they wanted to do black panther earlier but knew they couldn't do a good wakanda or i mean you know there is also
like will it hit you know will we hit you know obviously the minority market you want to get
into there too but you want to do it right and all that kind of stuff so i don't know how uh
it all played out but perfect time it's like the opposite of star wars where i mean the first three the trilogy was
obviously awesome and george nailed it and then george then got all the technology and then
completely shoved it down our throats to the point yeah kind of ruined the prequels well we talked
about that potential wesley snipes black panther in 92 i remember the big thing that they noted in
all of the articles i read about it was that it
was mostly focused on like african martial arts and african martial arts culture and history and
stuff like that so maybe you just take it in a different direction maybe you're like it's not
as focused on wakandan technology it's way more focused on the fighting and the more action scenes
which i you know i don't think the the wesley snipes version would have been
the generational movie that this one was but who knows exactly yeah now that's and i wonder if that
how how they'll go with black panther moving forward you know yeah i mean especially if
sherry does become the black panther i think they kind of have to lean into that a little bit and it's such a like uh tricky situation to deal with in the second one like
tricky isn't even the word it's a horrible situation where it's how do you do chadwick
justice how do you do t'challa justice in writing him out of the biggest movie franchise of all time
and i assume we will be getting a
black panther too it'll i assume it'll be called black panther too um where you don't have this
extra footage it's not like carrie fisher and star wars where they had extra footage and
she wasn't she didn't have to be the main character she wasn't the main character
so there were kind of uh shortcuts you could have taken,
and they did a great job with that, I thought,
given what they had to deal with in The Rise of Skywalker,
and just giving Carrie Fisher a nice goodbye where it wasn't too awkward.
How do you do that for T'Challa,
a character that, like we've been talking about the whole podcast,
means the world to people?
Do you open Black Panther two with a funeral?
I don't know.
I definitely don't, don't envy the person who has to make that choice,
that decision.
Cause they, that got greenlit. I think when this was still in the theaters,
I remember black, it's like, Oh no, black pan twos,
black Panther two is happening.
They were like, Oh, this won't stop making money. so we are starting the next one now yep yep um i guess that's the
one it's i guess that's the other thing it's like at least it wasn't like they could have done it
and if covet hadn't happened it's like it was still gonna you know the way the phases were
lined up it's just you know but it's like death too it's like death that's always the thing that kind of gets you whenever someone you know or love dies it's like you'll just never see
them again and that's kind of like the clean break with him it just sucks you know yeah um
where carrie at least you got that transition throughout the movie and all that kind of stuff
yeah it was like it was nice seeing the rise of skywalker and seeing her act like years after she passed away
it was like oh these are like some of her final scenes this is her looking good in a good light
like you know sounds good no bit of closure and it's like i don't think we're gonna get much of
that with chadwick i know he did a movie with um viola davis that's still coming out. And I know he recorded his Marvel What If,
which I believe the premise of is
what if the Ravagers found him instead of Star-Lord?
Huh.
Which is pretty interesting.
I didn't realize those were out there.
I didn't realize.
At least we'll get, you, at least we'll get,
you know,
one more vocal performance as T'Challa.
By the way,
her calling Killmonger Charlotte,
Charlotte,
that is a big time.
And so like that,
again,
we're going to articulate that's an articulate insult,
right?
Yeah.
And that, Hey, auntie.
Woo.
Boom.
One of the best scenes in this movie.
Because Michael B. Jordan and just the way he, you know, commands that room.
I'm shocked that guy's face. That's's like a meme right there he's just like shit
how that didn't make it probably was on the media it was probably before I discovered
where the memes were on reddit yeah and they just got on there oh shit yeah motherfucking
Forrest Whitaker
just told me mom
yeah
his mother
let me pull up the IMDB
and get her name as well
because she posted
like one of the
most beautiful tributes
to Chadwick on Instagram
the actress that plays
his mom in this
yeah Angela Bassett.
I'm so
fucking bad with names, man.
I don't remember any
actor names, fighter names.
I have too much
Star Wars knowledge in my brain. I gotta
clear some of it out.
You know when you gotta clear up storage?
Yep.
I bought the 42 gig brain. everyone else got the 122 gig for any for any future parents on listening to the podcast
next time you get your phone go one if not two levels up on storage trust me you're gonna need
it that's like the most important thing i I have the 128 gigabyte iPhone now.
I have so many dumb old bar school
videos I've shot on there.
I bought the most because it's like
you really need, especially for our job where
you're constantly saving stupid pictures or
videos to tweet and then you forget about
them and they just clog up your camera roll.
You need it.
That's my big
quarantine project I haven't done is clearing my camera roll.
I've been doing it slowly but surely.
I couldn't think of what movie this friend was in.
Get Out.
It's so obvious.
God damn it.
See?
Oh, yeah.
Terrible.
And he was in an episode of Black Mirror, one of the really early episodes of Black Mirror.
That's one of the few I've seen too i only watched a couple of them um we whenever we got into something else and it was good but oh there it is boom ah michael b bro that's great bodies yeah
holy fuck if i could trade bodies with like one guy i think it might be that guy either him or chris evans i always think back to that chris evans scene in a civil war when he's
holding the the helicopter on one end and he's holding the pad on the other and then he fucking
changes the arm around and he shows his bicep like god damn i wish i had that chris evans arm
it's crazy man the guy from not another team movie became captain america it's crazy man the guy from Not Another Team Movie became Captain America
it's crazy
another fantastic
fight scene
this is the fight scene
I prefer
between these two
it's like people that
prefer
Tyson Holyfield won
yeah
it's like lightsaber fights
right
yeah
that one I like T'Challa, Killmonger won.
I do feel like, I think I'm with you on that, actually.
I have to watch the second one again, but I think I remember liking the first one more.
Just like the water, too, is an interesting aspect of the whole thing the shots of confidence anytime someone gets the upper hand great
yep and like again one of the fighting in water is one of those things like you just can't like
it seems tough it's a billion times tougher. Yeah.
Think about when you're a kid running into the ocean
or water
of any sort. You slow down
tremendously the second you
hit water. The second you hit an inch of water,
you go from running to basically
going at the speed of a turtle.
These jerseys are jacked up on adrenaline right now. to basically going at the speed of a turtle.
These dudes are just jacked up on adrenaline right now.
Yeah.
Kind of stakes at hand.
Man, if you didn't do that,
I'd just hit you all dead.
Just done.
Oh, Uncle James.
Killing Uncle Jimmy.
God damn it.
And see, at that point, I don't know what the norms are for these challenges.
But how does everyone not attack him, you know?
Well, is that disqualification but the belt doesn't change hands?
Yeah, I don't know.
It just seems like everyone in that group, nobody wants this guy.
I accept the guy from Get Out.
I guess he wants him to be Black Panther.
I was going to say everyone else should have just attacked him,
thrown him off the cliff.
Why don't they just start ringing a bell?
Like, that's when you know shit's gone off the wall,
so they just keep ringing a bell. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I guess all of the panther's guardswomen
also, like, they
take this shit so seriously.
Like, the customs, you know?
Like, they serve Killmonger afterwards.
I mean, the other thing, fair and square.
Fair and square.
Yeah, he beat him clean.
Yeah, that counts for something, man.
I'm like remembering how I felt with Killmonger as i watched this movie almost like more than like t'challa cheated by having
forrest whitaker join beat him twice essentially and now they're having these like secret meetings
like what the fuck are we gonna do
the queen mother such a sick title queen mother yeah the queen bee
shout out to dallas braden did you see his queen bee video
no he's got a beehive with his wife he runs it he loves it and he uh recently found the queen
bee in there it's kind of crazy to see like you see it crawling around and i don't even like
looking at that stuff like i don't like bugs or any of that but you see this beat it's just clearly
double the size of the rest of them and it's got like helpers that follow it all around the hive
and like guard it that's just nature man that's some cool ass shit yeah
there you go i'm loyal to that throne no matter who sits on it look at that you know again we're
talking social dynamics and you know real real issues that pop up during uh you know these these
comic book movies that's a real thing you know your duty and it's levels they have layers, a little this guy is God damn.
He's like,
I'm never going home.
Like I,
I pull up these fits left and right.
I never thought I'd
see Donnie meeting Zaz family.
Did you see Zaz mom, like hemmedmed him shorts and outfits while he was there?
I did not see that, no.
He's got a bunch of Zimbabwean outfits.
Walks around looking like Zah now.
Donnie.
I mean, Donnie, another just great dude.
Like, that's a
that's just an all-time
collabo right there
yeah
she's like
who is this white boy
why does he have
a full suitcase worth of clothes
he really likes is he the only white guy in Wakanda right now?
He's got to be.
Yeah.
The white wolf has not arrived yet.
It's going to hurt their eyes to look at, you know?
If I were him, I'd be like like you guys are definitely about to
just kill me with drugs yeah exactly this feels like a trap it's a trap
little riptide rush in the mouth riptide rush favorite gatorade of all time
wow your favorite yep number one i go uh lemon lime green wow with the bottle in hand folks for those who can't see
uncle lily just pulls out the gatorade and actually has it in hand number two is for me
it's orange i've become an orange guy orange is really good i like orange real refreshing i would
have that uh during baseball games all the time yep damn kid discovered
his own father dead
with claws in him
I imagine
life isn't too easy
though in Oakland
when your dad dies
and you have to
yeah I don't think so
no one
zero people
and this is
this is his like
having that shit's crazy
right
like you see this
yeah
again very comfortable looks Again, very comfortable.
Looks like a very comfortable spot.
72 degrees.
Yeah.
Public Enemy posted on the wall.
Oh, yeah.
Shout out Public Enemy.
They toured with
the Rage Against the Machine members
for a little bit.
Oh, yeah? Before they got back together with Zack Della Rocha. They toured with the Rage Against the Machine members for a little bit. Oh yeah?
Before they got back together with Zack Della Rocha,
they toured together.
Yeah.
Oh,
some of the funniest things I've ever seen on Twitter are people who would
like talk to the guy from Rage Against the Machine and they're like upset at
his politics.
And it's like,
who do you think the machine he was raging against was,
man?
It's funny when people like snitch on themselves for not actually like
like listening to the lyrics of songs yeah i mean it's so far someone once said is tom morello has
you know all of these very uh out there political views not out there like he puts them out there
um and he's a liberal dude he's very antiTrump. He writes fuck Trump on his guitars and stuff. And someone said like, look, another musician turned politician, whatever.
And he's like, listen, you don't need to be, you don't need to have like a PhD from Harvard or some kind of major degree from Harvard to be a political science major.
But thankfully, I do have that and the fact flavor flame was part of that too that whole just like flavor
flavor had like the crazy that crazy run to fame
which might have been before you were like you're probably pretty young when
that all happened but that was crazy to see he was on the page
kind of got his own show but i i do appreciate like the way it kind of like turns on him the way he sees how it all
played out the dad you know yeah that no tears for me and him killmonger just being like no
everyone dies around here that's another like damn that's where he grew up yeah yep while t'challa was in the most thriving amazing place in the world
he's so used to death he doesn't die when his own father murdered
nope
i gotta figure out that guys Now we're back to the spy shit. uh-oh got ourselves a lemon gang he's here choking women and lifting them up now
and it's like if you're him,
don't you want these people to like you?
Shouldn't you start being like,
all right, we got off on the wrong foot,
but now that I'm the king,
I'm going to be here forever.
Burn it all in like,
well, I guess I would say burn it all next week
in good time,
but I guess at the same point,
if that's your plan,
just get rid of all this, then what it is.
What a shot this is.
Yep.
How do you think of that?
Exactly. Dude,
whenever I watch Breaking Bad and like they start the episode one way or they just have this camera i'm like how the hell do you even think and i go
that's why you are a you know director or writer or whatever the fuck it is like it's like crazy
brilliant brilliant you know that could have even been in a comic book though like because
comic books are really cool stuff like that, too. Totally true.
It's just like as soon as the status quo flips
and the world turns upside down,
you start that shot from underneath
and you literally flip it as he takes the throne.
Ryan Coogler, what a brilliant man you are.
Wow.
A plus plus fit from Killmonger on day one first day of school outfit yep big time first day of school vibes here which that's what i was saying imagine being remote learning this year in
a corona world and you can't get that first day fit off if you're at home it's a fucking shame
like i said i'm gonna be saving a lot of money on school clothes on Sienna,
but I still feel bad for her.
Yeah, true.
I think I would like the at-home school better.
I hated school as a kid.
I didn't like school that much.
I had like moments, you know, I think usually like your last year in the school,
you had fifth grade, eighth grade, twelfth grade I liked,
and then as you get closer.
I mean, it's just like everyone, you know.
Some people just have awesome memories, but it's awkward for a good chunk of that's why school days are
school days you know what I mean everyone has those feelings so and I think Carl wrote a good
blog about school supplies too and like even shopping for those things it was kind of like
a bittersweet moment you get yourself a nice five-star notebook a trap or keeper whatever but it's also basically like picking out your prison outfit yes absolutely
i used to fake sit in so much especially in elementary school like they probably thought i
had like some sort of serious problem because i would have belly aches all the time because i
knew belly aches could get you sent home i didn't even know why they would get you sent home but i
always said i had a bellyache i mean you're talking to the king of, I need to use the nurse's bathroom.
Bellyache king, Bobby Fox, bellyache Bob, they called him. Bellyache Bob.
For real. I used every single one of my absent days every single year.
Be like Bob Fox, 15 days absent.
Look at that. Working your dream job after all that dropped out of college
little uh yeah i was gonna say and now you won't catch me taking a day off like i just needed to
get to barstool hey articulate people how does that make you feel put that in your pipe and
smoke it you articulate and i think we hit the over already not even we we had to have hit the
over i said five and a half from there on out and i think i've done at least five
by myself so i like the the fact they go back to the um you know the enemy in the beginning of the
movie who you think might be like a simmering feud between it i kind of like that um the people
you would least expect yep the outside tribe sick, sick location too here.
So sick.
They have like the coolest looking stuff. They got the, they somehow found like a modern futuristic catalog that everyone else in Wakanda didn't have.
Yeah.
Fucking Bilbo.
Bilbo just cracks me up.
He's just always rocking a blanket
underrated about Bilbo too
he's in that like
I haven't showered
in my own shower
I had
like you just have that
like vacation feel
yeah
the whole time
which is nice
to be out of your
zone
it's like
sometimes you just need to go home and just get your own water, get your own, you know, sit in your own house.
It's nice.
It's like a reset.
Even when I went back to my mom's in Jersey and I spent a lot of the quarantine there, by the time I came back to New York, which isn't my favorite place in the world, I was like, this is nice.
Sitting on my couch, sleeping in my bed, showering in my shower.
You just feel like you're back in the habit,
back in the swing of things.
Gotta love it when, like, the bodyguards are smaller
than the guy that they're, like, bodyguarding.
I know, yeah.
Why does Mbaka need anyone around him? He could be attacked by, like, bodyguarding. I know, yeah. Why does M'Baku need anyone around him?
He could be attacked by, like, 30 people at once.
He'd be fine.
Yep.
This has to be some sort of serious crime going on here.
Like, punishable to death.
I imagine the Wakandan rules, I don't know if they said it in the movie,
of, like, what they're doing here.
Like, a mutiny. Is the word mutiny, I don't know if they said it in the movie, of like what they're doing here.
Like a mutiny. Is the word mutiny?
I think so, yeah.
Like coup d'etat even, which is one of my favorite words to use.
Wow.
That was one of my favorite history words ever.
I get that into the blog like once a year or so.
I remember coup d'etat.
But yeah, this feels like some pretty heavy duty, like it's in the rule book.
You get caught doing this in the law.
Like that's probably a pretty bad like execution, head on spikes, Game of Thrones kind of stuff.
I mean, especially with Killmonger.
Yeah, exactly.
T'Challa maybe, I mean, maybe he lets you off prison for life.
Killmonger is chopping your head off.
Yeah, yep.
T'Challa pop.
Just chillin'. Yeah.
Give him that three-chee.
Three-chee at the ancestors.
And yeah, Queen Mother, when you get those,
when the Queen Mother bends the knee, you know, that's legit.
You know, that was kind of the moment. I think that they were cool with helping out here, you know?
Yeah.
And as much as they don't you know have to like
it it is their throne still too yeah and baku came up a challenge for it because it's you know
he wants to be the leader of wakanda i think he would rather have t'challa than killmonger too
yep yep it's their country. They're their nation.
Oh my God. Imagine Raynaud's Rob under that. Get the snow off me.
Oh, that's the word we were playing in the snow as a kid.
You get that little snow down your like back. Oh, and you're just like,
ah, it just hurts so much. Yeah.
His whole body. And I, Africa has different climates and stuff.
I can't imagine you're used to that if you lived growing up in that part of Wakanda where he grew up.
No. so did these guys all get their own panther and can they like
i don't know that works it's pretty sweet though
that'd be cool if you could just turn into an animal in the afterlife if i could turn into a
fox around there's a fox they always look
cozy when they're sleeping probably sleep as one of those guys like sleep in a ball
oh by the way so i was wearing the my mom's basement hoodie got stored up barstool sports.com
got rave reviews multiple people go what is that i go this is you know because they know barstool
although there's my buddy bob it's his podcast shirt blah blah blah they loved it i think it might have sold a couple and i go yeah my buddy robbie fox and, because they know Barstool. That was my buddy Bob. It's his podcast shirt, blah, blah, blah. They loved it.
I think he might have sold a couple.
And I go, yeah, my buddy Robbie Fox.
And they're not big Barstool people.
They know of it.
They go, Robbie Fox, what a name.
And I'm sure you've heard that.
Yeah.
That's Bob Fox.
This guy has an A-plus name, A-plus content.
Wow, I appreciate it.
Store.barstoolsports.com.
As Clem said, you get the shirt, you get the hoodie the shirt plays i mean and obviously it's coming to into like fall
territory now i wore to jersey went to the jersey store and it was like those early beach mornings
and it's like such a good beach morning shirt oh yeah describe it
well i appreciate it from the child again rocking those, it's like a white alternate.
It's not a home white. It's a white alternate though.
Yeah.
Lakers white. It's nice.
Real nice.
The family so excited to have him back. He's like, fuck it.
Let's fucking go get this country back.
Where's Wallace? Where's Wallace?
Where's Wallace?
Another brilliant little just layer into the killmonger character used to work for the cia and he used to go into countries and destabilize them in war times or election times he comes in
you know basically election year quote-unquote where T'Challa takes the throne,
destabilizes them,
gains their resources,
their military.
He's got it all.
Want to go conspiracy theory?
Did,
is Killmonger the one who created coronavirus?
Did he destabilize this world?
Knowing the American itself is,
is Killmonger somewhere in the country here?
Destabilizing everything?
We've got eyes on Michael B.
Jordan.
I haven't seen him in a while
sherry
no it's like yeah we're doing this without all the fancy computers
and gadgetry and all that stuff.
We'll do what we can do here.
Yeah.
Is that a Wakanda watch?
Did he take the watch too?
Bilbo is pissing me off right now.
He's just...
He does have a good throne sit i will say that i don't know if he would be fit to be king but
he sits on a throne well he he wears a throne well absolutely i think you almost have to be
like big to sit on a throne well i don't think i could sit on a throne well
you'd be like joffrey you'd be like twitching around a lot like moving right exactly yeah my arms would be too far like they look like pipe cleaners
you just have to just go straight steroids at that point you're doing i'm doing it
your own don't worry about it i know the health risks involved either steroids or
layers layers on layers on layers.
Like one of those big fur things to make me look even bigger, bulkier.
This is how Draymond got Kevin Durant
to join the Warriors.
Just blew a 3-1 lead to Killmonger. I need your help, man. Like Draymond got Kevin Durant to join the Warriors. Just lost.
Just blew a 3-1 lead to Killmonger.
I need your help, man.
It may have been in the Western Conference Finals the year before, but.
Which, again, him coming out in Endgame was cool, too, you know? It's like, oh, all right.
He's in Infinity War, too. He's in Infinity War too.
He's in Infinity War as well.
That's cool.
Does he have elephants with him?
I feel like he has elephants with him.
He may.
I think a tribe brings rhinos with him in this final fight.
So you may be thinking of that.
His tribe comes in on rhinos.
That's probably what I'm thinking of.
I will say, Killmonger does go understated here with the outfit.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I used to appreciate a villain who doesn't really, you know, whoop it up.
Yeah, he didn't have, like, a purple suit ready to go.
Yep.
They know I'm the king.
I sit on the throne.
I got the crown at home.
Don't worry about it.
I don't need to show it off.
Down goes the first shipment of vibranium.
Let's go home. what a shot
from the ashes
rises the Black Panther by the way this is the other thing about chadwick the haircut just nails the haircut too
just yeah sick ass haircut he has the look he has the voice he has the presence all that stuff
and then the haircut is just the cherry on top.
Also something that, you know,
we keep talking about things that make you like Killmonger.
Something that makes you hate him is right there when he goes, no, no,
no more challenges. I'm the King. We don't do that. It's like, Oh,
what a pussy. You won the King through the challenges.
Now you're saying no more challenges.
Very wrestling heel ish right there. Totally.
The challenge is not
complete.
Despicable.
Turns us back on T'Challa.
He's in the sunken place.
I've had Redbone in my head since I realized he's from Get Out.
That song just goes in my head on everything in that movie.
Oh, that's a sick, sick move.
So sick.
And I like that they, you know,
obviously give him a different color than purple
to make it so we could tell them apart in the final fight scene.
Like Mortal Kombat when you pick Raiden and Raiden.
But I like the gold against the purple.
It looks so cool.
Yep, yep.
I wish he chose something like Oakland style, like silver and black,
like a Raiders fan or something like that, right?
I've read that. Or imagine like green and black, like a Raiders fan or something like that, right? I've read that.
Or imagine like green and yellow.
It might be a little too on the nose.
I think the silver.
But silver was Black Panthers first, so maybe they didn't want to do that. I love those kicks he's constantly throwing.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
I'm just thinking, like, imagine a Tim Brown Raiders jersey.
God damn it.
You could have had it.
You would have won if you just had a Tim Brown Black Panther jersey.
Oh, this is where the rhinos come in.
They're all armored up.
Nope.
I have to – Large did a twisted history of animals in warfare.
I haven't listened to it yet, but I'm dying to listen to it
because I think there's a lot of shit apparently from like back in the day
when they used animals in warfare. I'm dying to hear it. Oh, wow's a lot of shit apparently from like back in the day when they used animals in warfare i'm dying to hear it so oh wow heaped up for that
yeah i'll definitely listen to that i did the i did the pro wrestling one i mean in large i saw
that there's about a thousand it's twist all wrestling's history is twisted so i think he's
gonna have to do one with you brandon walker He'll have to do like a 10-part series with anyone who's a wrestling fan,
which is basically all Barstool.
Yeah.
That was another one.
So check out Twisted History for anyone who likes that kind of stuff,
whether it's animals and warfare, professional wrestling, weed.
Coley did the weed episode the other day, very on brand.
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yep
brutal
now I imagine
like kind of like
with like the Dothraki
I imagine that
all the language
in this stuff
is they had some expert who just completely crushed all the stuff, right?
Xosha.
I think that's a real language, though.
Is that a real language?
Yes, because I think that is the native language of the man who plays T'chaka and i believe the story goes that um on the set of civil war t'challa learned
some lines in that language on the spot and delivered them day of like that and that was
what made ryan coogler go like oh man this guy's different he's not just like an actor learning
lines he's like let's make sure the heritage is right here. Let's make sure we do this shit right.
The culture.
Yeah, you could have told me they made another African dialect just based on all of that.
I wouldn't have been surprised to get here.
It's an official language of South African and Zimbabwe.
There you go.
South African.
Official language of Zimbabwe as well i wonder if saw speaks it
or understands it
that smile that killmonger gives off is so like devious. Cause it's like, Oh shit.
That's the smile of a man going after his enemy's little sister.
That's fucked up.
That's villainous.
Then you got your subplot here.
Bilbo didn't see this coming when he started
woke up a couple days ago why it's like will smith when he's an independent
sailor and gotta fly like alien technology it's like how the fuck do
you know how to shoot this shit man i've compared this third act to uh the
phantom menaces many times and it's not necessarily a
dig but there's so much going on and it's like in the phantom menace you
have that big battle over the field between the Gungans and the
Separatists, which you have here.
You have the big battle in the field.
And then you have the big lightsaber battle in the energy field room
between Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, and Darth Maul.
And this, you have it between Killmonger and Black Panther.
And then you have Anakin in the sky trying to blow up that big ship,
and that's what you have with Bilbo fucking Baggins here.
Yep.
Similar beats.
There is a lot going on, too.
I remember the first time I saw this,
and I was like, wow, there's a lot going on
in this last scene right now.
Yeah, they make it a big epic.
They don't muddle it like they do
in Phantom Menace.
I guess Phantom Menace, I don't care about 90%
of the people in it.
Yeah.
Boom.
This is sweet.
It's like they're skydiving basically but they don't got no parachutes
yeah
fucking uh
David Blaine style
yeah
like that shot for me always
I'm like alright
that was pretty video game
esque
I liked how the two bubbles
explored at the same time
yeah
can he hear her down there
yeah do they have like a
they gotta have do they have like a I gotta have mics. They gotta have mics.
Have to.
That was the thing I was most
intrigued by by someone who's lived
in the, lived with the
MTA for way too long
in my life. Just like, just someone
just fixed the subway system using
Wakanda's technology.
Speaking of Phantom Menace,
by the way,
pretty much the laser gate scene where Obi-Wan and Darth Maul are waiting to
fight each other.
Yeah.
We took a lot of,
uh,
yeah.
If I ever brought that up to Ryan Coogle,
he'd probably fucking smack me in the face.
Throw you off a waterfall.
I think I fucking, yeah.
I think I modeled my movie after Phantom Menace.
Hey, man, Phantom Menace would have played
if the Jars was actually... yeah I don't know what it is but Sherry like instantly like I instantly click her I was like
like you just don't want anything to happen to her you're like I just like this chick you know
what I mean I think sister is a part of it and the way they had their
chemistry and all that stuff.
Just awesome.
Bilbo.
Huge move.
Back into the VR.
Little hint of, what's the name of the,
I can't remember the name of where those gold people are from in guardian.
Oh yeah.
I don't remember either.
I can't remember.
Cause I always get Xandar stuck in my head.
I know it's not Xandar.
Is there the ones who build,
the Kismet.
Sovereign.
Oh, is that what they are?
The home planet Sovereign.
The cold morons.
The aliases.
They're the Sovereign. planet sovereign yeah morons no uses another sovereign we haven't done it yet
but I think I think Guardians 2 is my favorite of the two Guardians oh really
I don't like the first one better but i i think it's pretty close yeah i i feel like uh
most people would would have one over two but i just think there's just more beats that it hits
for me personally um with two and baby grew like big group's awesome too baby grew yeah it's a
game changer baby yoda has made people forget exactly and the whole dynamic between um
yondu and peter at the end and then the uh gomorra even has some moments with peter and then
i don't know i didn't really love the battle final battle scene of guardians one compared
to guardians two's battle scene more fair enough we'll have to do it one day. I love Guardians 2. Yeah.
God, day one stuff, Bilbo.
Was your first time in Wakanda or something, dude?
Now we're free falling.
Gotta get that reboot. I know they couldn't really go much deeper into it because of the time and they just have so many spots,
but I wish there was a little more of like them trying to get into Wakanda
and infinity war and stuff like that. Cause there's just so much shit going on.
You know what I mean? There's so much technology.
It's like, come on. Or did they have, they have rhinos in Infinity War
they probably don't have
the time
you might have seen
one when they showed
like the white wolf
when they were like
let's go get the white wolf
they're not in the battle
scene right
no I don't think so
they're in your end game
at least I remember
you have to have confidence
if you think that rhino
is going to stop
and lick you
like that
yeah You have to have confidence if you think that Ryan is going to stop and lick you. Like, that's nuts.
That's great, too.
Imagine if she dropped Get Out as her line to him.
It's the Leonardo DiCaprio meme, except it's from a different movie altogether.
Yeah.
Might not have even been out.
No, that came out first, right?
Get Out was 2017.
Yeah, Get Out was first. Because that's how this guy got discovered i think like or at least you know black pan
or black mirror first yep he was awesome with that black mirror episode too
yeah we're like oh shit this is what everyone's talking about I do appreciate that they do take the masks off them because it just makes it
feel more human. You know,
suits battling each other kind of doesn't do it, but definitely.
Oh shit.
And there it is. I just can't believe this guy's gone, man.
It's fucking crazy.
I know.
Crazy to think about.
Definitely thought we were going to get
three, four of these movies.
No.
No. No.
And now you're seeing the real Killmonger.
Not that he's putting on a front
the whole movie,
but like,
just,
it's humanized.
Yep.
Pain with that anger, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Maybe if he came to him like this in the first place,
he could have worked something out. and T'Challa lets him get one last look at Wakanda before he dies boom that's what it's like
good cousins moment too yeah grab. Grab a couple beers,
be like, don't tell mom.
Yeah.
Kind of parallels the
moment from Civil war as well.
We're sitting on the cliff with Baron Zemo and the snow.
Yup. she is
I mean that might be the most heavy line in the MCU
yeah
I mean this fucking
shove that that's the whole thing man MCU. Yeah. I mean, just fucking shoving that
at me.
That's the whole thing, man.
I don't remember that part.
What a shot
but you know what
Killmonger made
T'Challa realize a few things
nope
without Killmonger
the world may not be here
because we
you know
we meaning
the good guys may not be able to we, you know, we meaning the good guys,
may not be able to fight off Thanos in Infinity War in Wakanda.
This is a big flex fit.
This is a big I'm back fit.
Just took down my greatest nemesis after surviving a fall from waterfall
and had a comeback from the bottom.
Big time.
You got to flex on him there, though.
You have to.
Your king fell once.
He ain't going to fall again, and these threads will prove it.
Is that a peacock earring?
That's some serious feathers going on in that earring there.
Yeah.
That's some serious stuff. yeah hey
Black Panther
yo I almost died Black Panther. Black Panther.
Yo, I almost died is such a good little, like,
get out of jail free card for so many.
Yeah, for everything.
Can you grab that remote?
I don't want to get up.
I almost died.
Two desserts?
I almost died.
Yeah, screw it.
And the lasting shot they leave you with,
or I guess they don't leave you with it because they do
go back to Oakland.
But at least in that world,
Wakanda, ladies and
gentlemen.
Rim's gotten a little nicer.
Yep, upgraded rims.
Every time I think about California, I get so depressed.
It's so nice there all the time.
The weather's always nice.
Hey, cold weather Bob, it's coming.
It is.
God, don't remind me.
The entire world just like in an instant, like in a wink of an eye,
everything just kind of just progressed in the last six months.
But it was through spring and summer.
It was so nice.
It was as nice as it was going to get.
Charlie did it. How cool is that
he buys the building where
his father killed his uncle
to make it that
fix any of the issues
that they've had
I love the kids reaction to the ship
what the hell is that I love the kid's reaction to the ship.
The hell is that?
One of them immediately is like, let's see if we can scrap it. somebody did the black panther thing in the nba the other day i'm trying to think who it was lebron did it did lebron do it oh yeah and and the night that chadwick died i believe
he during the national anthem did the Wakanda forever.
And there you go.
The last shot of the movie.
Nice smiling shot of Chadwick Boseman.
Rest in peace to a legend.
Rest in peace.
I hope.
Yeah.
We won't stick around for the,
all the after credit stuff because we did that last time and it was a lot of just waiting around for it,
but hell awesome movie, movie that I love,
movie that, you know, I'll show my kids someday.
It's a movie that I'll watch many times throughout my life. And it's a movie that every time I watch it, I'll think Chadwick Boseman.
How could you not? He's star. He is black Panther. He is the Chala.
He'll forever be that, cinematically.
Rest in peace.
Rest in peace.
Again, wish we were watching it under better circumstances.
You know, just wish it was just a good old-fashioned rewatch for just the heck of it.
But, yeah, man.
Like you said, he set the standard here.
And, you know, that's the thing.
These Marvel movies have become such cultural events and icons that, like,
you know, someone like this hurts that much more because he set the stage
and it's going to continue.
And you always think that was, you know,
he's the one who got the Black Panther side of this started off
and now he's gone.
But, hey, man, started a movement and hopefully keeps going
and getting bigger and better.
Absolutely.
Our thoughts go out to his friends and family and Wakanda forever.