My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 93 - THE MANDALORIAN SEASON 2 EPISODE 5 RECAP WITH CLEM!

Episode Date: November 30, 2020

Robbie and Clem break down Ahsoka Tano's entry to the live-action Star Wars universe in this week's episode of The Mandalorian, debate Baby Yoda's brand new name, and pay their respects to the late, g...reat, David Prowse! 3Chi: Use code ROBBIE at checkout to receive 5% off at 3Chi.comYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners. You can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Whatever it takes to keep our names off of Dave's lips during the Dave Portnoy show, that's basically my entire goal at Barstow has always been to stay off his radar. Now it's to stay off his podcast, unless it's in, like, a good way. But then when your name gets brought up, you don't know, like, which way. Dave's brain is always moving.
Starting point is 00:00:23 I don't want it to go down to, like, the so as long as like my name robbie's name the basement anything else we do is not on dave's mind which i'm sure this week is going to be like a must listen for people who love the drama i think you have to be pretty happy these shirts are fucking fire i'm wearing mine as well we got baby yo sienna says it's her favorite shirt because she loves baby yo so shout out to that and again get them this is this is a cyber monday thing 20 off and we don't know like these things may not be in the store on regular tuesday you got to get them on cyber monday get them now or forever hold your peace because i think with everything that has this glorious little green man who shall not be
Starting point is 00:01:00 named his face on it we don't know when the fucking death star is going to come and blast this out of the universe. So get it now or forever hold your peace. It's kind of like a lot of the other shirts. We had a We Gotta Believe. They got sniped for one reason or another. People are like, I wish I had it. Well, there's a limited edition, basically.
Starting point is 00:01:15 So get them now or forever hold your peace. It's a great way to put it, that Death Star coming down on us. And speaking of Dave, we will get to Dave's thoughts on this Mandalorian episode later. I texted him this morning and I was like, man, I hope he's watched the episode because it would be great for the podcast. If I could get his thoughts on the big thing from this episode. And he did give them to me, some hysterical texts. Before we get into that, let me remind you about our sponsor, as we do each and every week. It's 3Chi.
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Starting point is 00:04:03 we have to talk about something unfortunate, something kind of sad. We had a loss in the galaxy this week, a loss in the Star Wars universe. This morning, on Sunday, as we're recording, David Prowse died at 85 years old. David Prowse, if you're not aware, was the man in the Darth Vader suit throughout the entire original trilogy. He was a bodybuilder in the 60s and 70s. He's a world champion bodybuilder that George Lucas took note of in A Clockwork Orange, Stanley Kubrick's movie. He played the role of F. Alexander's bodyguard, and he's just this massive hulking figure. George realized he could be a really good intimidating figure to be in the Darth Vader
Starting point is 00:04:40 suit. Didn't wind up liking his voice, so they wound up going with James Earl Jones but he is the Darth Vader we know every mannerism you know from Darth Vader that you know every time someone animates Darth Vader now or plays him in Rogue One or even Hayden Christensen in Revenge of the Sith they're trying to emulate him if you're a Star Wars fan close your eyes unless you're driving don't close your eyes if you're driving and listening to the podcast but close your eyes and you're driving don't close your eyes if you're driving i wasn't in the podcast but close your eyes and if i just say the way darth vader violently swings from left to right when he's talking to imperials or rebels you know exactly what i'm talking about you know the way he swings you know the way he points his finger up
Starting point is 00:05:15 that's all david prowse that's all credit to him he is you know half of that character to me is basically david prowse he's the body james earl jones is the voice and i guess you could say erwin kirshner or george lucas is the mind but he is as much of darth vader as anyone else and it's a tough loss 85 is is good life you know he lived a long time but may the force be with him always r.i.p and peace man i mean like you said, like kind of like the guy played R2 and Chewbacca, you know, these guys who are behind the mask or the machine or whatever you want to call it. I mean, like you said, he didn't even have the voice, even though it was crazy to me that he did all the lines. I don't did he know that he wasn't even going to be the voice in the movie?
Starting point is 00:05:59 I don't think so, because especially there's interviews with him where he's like, I should have been the voice. Like, I think he really wanted to be the voice. But he really enjoyed being a part of the Star Wars universe. He was one of those guys that would always be at the cons, always be, you know, selling 8x10s on Twitter, interacting with fans on his Twitter account. Like, he really, really enjoyed that he was Darth Vader, which I always love to see when actors aren't, like, jaded about it. Yeah, and that's exactly, that's the thing. Like, you could be jaded about it. And then you hear James Earl Jones. You're like, yeah, that's Darth Vader's voice.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Like, thanks for giving me the, being able to be the physical part of Darth Vader. It's like, if Portnoy says he wants to do something that we want to do, it's like, oh no, Dave, you do it. You are the fucking man. You're the James Earl Jones of, you know, the barstool sports game. The guy played the greatest villain
Starting point is 00:06:41 in the history of villains. You know what I mean? And he played a flaw. 1A, 1B, because I just said to my wife 24 hours ago that hans gruber is the greatest villain of all time so we'll say 1a 1b but like intimidating force i mean without saying anything obviously the suit is i'm going to do with it but the dude was just this imposing monster of a man and when you learn later on after episode three that it's you know half of it's his robot legs it's not even all really Anakin it's basically more machine than man now the dude just killed it and like you said
Starting point is 00:07:09 like the choking the the way he just like walked even when you said the uh Darth Vader mannerisms even like the funny things that aren't supposed to be funny when the Millennium Falcon shoots in the hyperspace in Empire Strikes Back and he does like a little glance back it makes me laugh every single time because it's like Darth Vader is just like us he's like what the fuck like you guys told me the hyperspace was disabled so um yeah another another loss it sucks these things just add up and the thing is that original trilogy is so old I mean it kind of goes in with everything else in 2020 has not been a kind year for these kind of news stories, unfortunately. So, yeah, RIP to a legend. And, you know, every little, I think every little thing from that original trilogy,
Starting point is 00:07:50 and especially that original movie, needed to be perfect for it to become this universe that we've had. And that guy plays just as big a role as everyone else in its own special way. I believe in the butterfly effect. One thing changes, it can go, everything can kind of blow up. And that dude played it perfectly. So, yeah, it's a bummer, man. Something else that he did that I think is awesome. And for anyone else, this would have been maybe their crowning achievement in life is he was the guy that trained Christopher Reeve for the Superman movies, which is like amazing. That's like in this day and age, being the guy that's like training the rock or something, you know what I mean? Pretty cool that that was just a side note in his career that was oh yeah i taught superman
Starting point is 00:08:29 how to get strong what a what a stud it's like what do you put first on like you know in the obituary it's like you're darth vader first but then it's like by the way i made superman super like that's kind of a hell of a uh you know second bullet note in the in the obit man unbelievable in wrestling they do a 10-bell salute when someone passes. They ring the bell 10 times. I think in this podcast, I'm going to have the Death Star blow up Alderaan 10 times for him. A fitting tribute to Darth Vader. Don't show that to Cara Dune.
Starting point is 00:08:58 I mean, Jesus Christ, Robin. We just spent like the last half of the last episode, you know, waxing poetic about how fucked up he was. It's not about her this week, Clem. It's not about her. Blow that fucking planet up. Blow it up. Commence primary ignition. Thank you. so so all right let's talk about The Mandalorian,
Starting point is 00:11:08 because we have a lot to talk about, so we better get into it. This was the Dave Filoni-directed episode, the first Dave Filoni-directed episode of the season. He once again got episode five. Last season he got episode five. This season he gets episode five as well. And we all expected this to be the Ahsoka Tano episode, and we were correct in
Starting point is 00:11:25 that assumption i don't think that many of us expected to see her in the cold open though because when that happened i mean i whipped my phone out right away to grab my immediate reaction i was like in the darkness at three in the morning because of course i stayed up to watch it but i was stunned to see her even when we start to see her when you hear the lightsabers it's like oh are we going to see her in the shadows but you see her head on we even get a conversation she has with this magistrate she's really slaying all of these mercenaries these aliens in the forest reminded me a little bit of the opening of rise of skywalker where kylo ren is killing all of those people but she's doing in a very nice stealthyy way. It's like a dark, foresty, green hue planet called Corvus.
Starting point is 00:12:06 And she keeps igniting the lightsabers, killing someone, and then unigniting them, which is kind of her style in the Clone Wars as well. Very cool to see. She has this conversation with the Magistrate where she says, I'll give you one day to give up what I want. And then we get the name of the episode. It's the Jedi. Clem, how did you watch this episode, first off?
Starting point is 00:12:30 And secondly, what did you think of the cold open seeing ahsoka in the flesh okay so first of all it was black friday so i was like oh man we get a black friday mando i feel like most of the you know country is going to kind of be on the same page watching it at least in the morning if not at 3 a.m or during the day you know it was even a lot of people working from home you kind of do that i woke up at about 7 a.m i didn't stay up till 3 like you maniacs do god bless all of you and i had seen a tweet someone responded to a tweet that was tweeted at me and was like hey what's with the spoilers right now and i was like i immediately i had the fucking antennas go up and go oh boy we're dealing with potential spoilers because everyone's watching right now your robot eyes opened my robot eyes open and i said oh boy, we're dealing with potential spoilers because everyone's watching right now. Your Lobot eyes opened.
Starting point is 00:13:05 My Lobot eyes opened. And I said, oh shit, I'm going to put these on side. Do I look like Lobot right now? I have these headphones on sideways. Oh my God, we got spoilers today. And I was freaking out about it. And I went right down and the kids are running around crazy because that's what they do anytime after 5.30 AM. And I said to my wife, I was like, listen, I got to go down, watch Mando. There's potential spoilers out there. You know, I can't keep Twitter off my phone for more than five minutes at a time. Go downstairs. So I watched it around, I don't know, 7, 8 o'clock in the morning and just got it out, complete blackout.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Because, again, obviously we'll get into the name was the big reveal. There was a lot of other things that I think were bigger for people who know the more nichey stuff of it um but yeah it was it was great and again black friday we're not off on black friday let me make this clear i was working very hard on black friday i was promoting my merch as much as i could i was promoting the site i was blogging like a motherfucker black friday sales all over the site i feel like it's fucking our president right now everything you ever mean nothing but black friday you sound like a used car everything must go go go so so yeah so um 8 a.m i think and i think i i love watching it all together and i understand why they have to drop the episodes at 3 a.m but it is nice this is the closest thing we have to like
Starting point is 00:14:20 episodic watchings fargo's another one i agree all night i love having where everyone's pretty much on the same page the thing is it's tough because you really can't tweet until monday i think by this time the podcast comes out that's when we can start actually talking about the name and all that stuff but that's kind of what i was and i was in the same mode as you man i thought it was so cool star wars in the dark is just cool and something they need to take more advantage of because that's what made the rogue one vader so cool that's what made this opening scene so cool and i don't even know who ahsoka is i had to like watch my refresher on her i know the lights camera barstool guys did some stuff on that um but just like it was cool for me to see i can't even imagine it was like for you and all the people
Starting point is 00:14:59 who watch the cartoons it's like a watching like an actual doll come to life basically our cartoon like it's just banana land that that's like a real thing that just happened it was crazy and something that was so relieving for me was that she didn't look stupid that's what i was so worried about like i've seen so much fan art over the years over the past 10 years of hey what if ahsoka was in live action people making rosario dawson people making ashley eckstein the original voice actress in the in the paint with you know, kind of horns that she has. She didn't look stupid. I was thrilled. Some of the fan art just looks like wonky and it made me nervous. She looked pretty cool. Rosario Dawson, the face popped, her contacts really popped. Like it looked like
Starting point is 00:15:40 the animated character, her voice was perfect. She cracked jokes in the way that the cartoon character did. So I think everyone was really happy about that and even ashley eckstein the original voice actress posted a really long nice instagram passing the torch off to rosario basically and she commented on it and they went back and forth it was nice to see now okay so that that's that's another thing too is like they hit they hit the landing with the way she looked and i think after the sequel trilogy i think a lot of people were very i think that's kind of where the star wars fan base was the sequel trilogy followed by solo you have to add solo into the mix which in terms of the riled the fan base up there was a lot of things people were upset about
Starting point is 00:16:16 they actually nailed the landing with the looks as someone who doesn't know much i wasn't like this doesn't feel weird to me and if you say it's good you know good translation i've heard anyone say like that was terrible it was weird it was wonky all that kind of stuff and like you said we're always like oh are we gonna get you know we're gonna get boba are we gonna get a soco and they're like boom they're right fucking here man like i kind of like and then there's also the little twist with the boba stuff um i i do like how they're kind of just giving it to us like we're not they're not getting cute with it they're just running it they're fucking they know their plays they're they're executing it perfectly it's been it's
Starting point is 00:16:47 been great so far as someone who doesn't know much about ahsoka it's like is that like um her skin the white hair looking stuff sort of yeah it should progress some people are complaining it should be longer by now in the clone wars it was this long and now in the collides like guys the live action they got to do what they got to do to make it look okay. I'm fine with how it looks like the translation from the cartoon to the live action. But yeah, that is part of her species. That's kind of her hair. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:13 And then the double barrel lightsaber. Let me say this. Cool. Very cool. However, I have to say it's crazy as it sounds like sometimes less lightsabers is more. It's like the old Bill Parcells. If you have two quarterbacks, you don't really have one. I feel like we have two lightsabers. You don't really have one. And I'm like, it feels like two baby lightsabers is more. It's like the old Bill Parcells. If you have two quarterbacks, you don't really have one. I feel like if you have two lightsabers, you don't really have one.
Starting point is 00:17:27 And I'm like, it feels like two baby lightsabers instead of a big one. But I do think it's cool. I like how it's different. I like how, you know, Maul had the bow. I think this all comes back to me not liking General Grievous that much. Like he was a disappointment. I thought he was a cool idea. But the two, it grew on me over time.
Starting point is 00:17:42 But like you said, the way she kind of just stalked everyone out in the dark, just, you know, killing them. I think it's something that can be used again. You know, you don't use it all the time, but used again, whether it's a lightsaber or some, you know, Mando or someone else like that. Star Wars in the Dark is a very cool, cool way to go about things. I even think back to last season, the Bill Burr episode, when he starts taking that whole team out one by one, and there was like the flashing in the ship. That was awesome in the dark. It's anything that you could make horror vibes in Star Wars. It just works. It goes together like Jay-Z and Linkin Park. I'm not even going to touch that. You know what I'm saying. is we've kind of touched on it in the podcast before i'll give a quick refresher in the clone wars cartoon she was anakin skywalker's padawan they had a very brother sister like relationship and she was always a little more critical and skeptical of the jedi ways than anyone else kind of like anakin where he was questioning certain things she was questioning certain things and
Starting point is 00:18:40 eventually she was framed for a bombing at the Jedi temple. She was exonerated of those crimes, but the way that the whole court case went down, the way that she was framed, she didn't like it. She left the Jedi order. She's like, fuck this. You guys are corrupt. She basically realized they were corrupt before anyone else went away. And she has been traveling the galaxy thus far since she's in rebels. She's in the clone wars. You could follow her story throughout all of that. I highly recommend it. She's sort rebels she's in the clone wars you could follow her story throughout all of that i highly recommend it she's sort of the character in the clone wars who you experience everything through so i'd recommend all of that but for now let's get back into the episode i thought the intro was actually sort of game of thrones-esque when she was talking to like the
Starting point is 00:19:18 magistrate on the wall did you feel the same way my first note here very thronesy the wall obviously from the season eight that's kind of where you get the vibes but just first note here very thronesy the wall obviously from the season eight that's kind of where you get the vibes but just like the archaic built the way the wall is built almost um the bells as there's danger coming which i immediately think police you fucking lighting up king's landing and then even the crucifixion of all those people even though it's like again it was a star wars version of it like the star wars cyanide pill where you get the little lasers that are doing instead of just like straight old testament shit where those people are being crucified in esos but i don't remember what city it was uh it was very thronesy i had some serious thrones vibe
Starting point is 00:19:52 and villagers basically being like prisoners in their own homes by a magistrate which by the way do you know what a magistrate is because i i always like i'm like oh yeah the magistrate have no clue what the fuck it is and i got a dictionary definition do you know what it is no read it to me all right this is so magistrate. Have no clue what the fuck it is. And I got a dictionary definition. Do you know what it is? No, read it to me. All right. This is, so everyone at the water cooler, wherever the fuck your Zoom meetings, you will know what a magistrate is.
Starting point is 00:20:11 A civil officer or lay judge who administers the law, especially one who conducts a court that deals with minor offenses and holds preliminary hearings for more serious ones. Now, not nearly as badass as the magistrate seemed in this episode. I will say that. That kind of pussifies Magistrate.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Seems like she's dealing with misdemeanors by that definition. It's like she's handing out parking tickets. Yeah, she's fucking, like, has a ruler and just slaps people on the hand and says, Beskar Spears, and crucifies people. Magistrate, put some fucking respect on that name, Merriam-Webster. What's going on here? In a way, I guess it sort of makes sense, though, because she was, like, below, you know, Thrawn. We'll'll get to later so it's like maybe that's what they're talking about i thought
Starting point is 00:20:50 when they called her magistrate the only other time that i had heard that was in mando they call uh carl weathers character grief carga they call him a disgraced magistrate at the end of season one and i was like are we on like his old planet or something? But I don't think they're making that connection. I think they're just saying like, that's terminology used in the galaxy. I also got Hunger Games vibes. I don't know if you've seen those movies, but just by this whole like village,
Starting point is 00:21:14 sort of reminded me like District 12-y, like the lower class Hunger Games district. I could get behind that. Yeah, Wifey's a huge Hunger, she like was a big into the books and stuff like that. So I saw all the movies and stuff. And I actually dug that. She was big, hung she like was a big into the books and stuff like that so um i i saw all the movies and stuff and i actually dug that she was big wifey was a big into hunger games and twilight were the two book series she was into and she feels one good way about one of the movies and one bad way i think you can figure out which one of those which way she went with that
Starting point is 00:21:37 i also thought this actress looks so familiar but she's not in anything i've ever seen she was big into stunts back in the 90s and then she's been in a couple things uh more recently but she's not in anything I've ever seen. She was big into stunts back in the 90s, and then she's been in a couple things more recently. But she just had a look. She looked like someone from Sesame Street or something. I don't know how else to explain it. That's who she looked like to me, the Magistrate. I thought she was a good character, though. Jeff was actually the one that told me that she was a stunt woman,
Starting point is 00:21:57 so I figured that out. And then the villager that he kept saving, that he went to talk to, Mando goes down to talk to, and he's like, don't talk to us, please, which that's going to be a meme soon he is actually a head figure in like disney their china division or something he's like a big character in the business side of disney jeff told me there's a whole documentary about him on disney plus about like he helped cruise ships or i have no idea what this guy's deal is but he's like a businessman that they were like hey do you want to do something fun as a thank you for all your
Starting point is 00:22:29 hard work that should be what you get at disney now like at disney i when i worked at he i worked at espn for a little bit uh doing computer stuff nothing content wise and you would get like pins when you work for the walt disney company for a year five years and whatever and like you if you are good enough you hit your goals forget about raises and promotions like yo you're gonna be in mando give me a cameo yeah yeah exactly and i will say this about that guy too he had the look of like a dude that i like like that guy is a businessman he's a successful businessman he just carries himself the right way he has the look about him i don't know he has it that guy he did have it i wanted him to be saved at every turn every nod i was like was like, fucking A, Mando.
Starting point is 00:23:06 When the Stormtrooper or the, like, the, whatever, the bad guys were, like, looking at him, I'm like, no, no, like, don't get that guy. Like, that guy was, like, one of my family members. I knew him for three seconds on the screen. It was unbelievable. Yeah, shout out to that villager. He was awesome. And then they even give him, like, the new robe at the end, the color. All thrilled about it. Love that guy.
Starting point is 00:23:24 That was thronesy, too. That about it love that guy that was thronesy too that was very it was like a thronesy kind of ceremony there you know yeah they had like the flags that were almost kind of the house stark flag stuff that was very this whole episode was very thrown in vibes you know what i'm doing it right now no one can tell me any other that was the final season of game of thrones it doesn't make any sense to the first seven seasons i am going to choose to believe that episode of mando it was better it was flat out better so mando arrives on the planet with baby yoda we're gonna call him baby yoda for now just for now and he goes into this village like i said he talks to this guy we just talked about a guy says don't talk to us please and you can tell something's up in this in this i don't know if it's a city village council
Starting point is 00:24:04 whatever you call it. And they say the magistrate would like a word with you. So they bring him into this nice bonsai garden looking place. It was very samurai, Kill Bill-esque. A lot of comparisons to the Seven Samurai and Kill Bill with this online. Everyone's posting like the cinematography was lined up, all that kind of stuff. They really worked hard to nail down that vibe. The magistrate says, listen, you're a Mandalorian.
Starting point is 00:24:28 I could see it. Check out this spear I've got. It's made out of pure Beskar. It's all yours if you kill this Jedi that we're dealing with. We got a Jedi problem. She's trying to come into our city. Tell us what to do. Please go kill her.
Starting point is 00:24:41 He doesn't really agree to it. He realizes the spear's Beskar. He's like, this is kind of sick, but he's very, he's not giving her a confirmed answer because he knows he's got to go find the Jedi. So he's like, where can I go to find the Jedi? At this moment, she tells him, and then he kind of makes it seem like he's going to go kill her, I guess. And he has a conversation with her second in command. He sees baby Yoda and her second fans like, what's that thing? And he says, I keep it around for luck. And he says a conversation with her second in command. He sees Baby Yoda and her second in command is like, what's that thing? And he says, I keep it around for luck.
Starting point is 00:25:08 And he says, you're going to need it where you're going. Clem, a little fun fact for you about this second in command. Do you know who he is? I do not. This guy's name is Michael Bean. And he's actually James Cameron's good luck charm, basically. He's been in the Terminator movies. He's been in the Terminator movies. He's been in the alien movies and he's even been in Michael Jackson's beat it
Starting point is 00:25:29 video where he does a little fucking dance as the leader of a gang. Does he do the one where they, they, they, they tie their wrists together. Is he the guy with the, in the knife dance with MJ? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:41 This that's my favorite Michael Jackson video too. I have a Michael Jackson I'm gonna go get my Michael Jackson pop for the rest of this episode right here this is very problematic too I actually looked to sell it after the Michael Jackson video came out the movie the documentary turns out it's worth like 150 dollars but I took it out of the box because I don't like to not play with toys and um I was like I can't really have my kids play with this it felt kind of weird I mean this just changes everything and I didn't know the guy was in i think terminator and stuff like that he was in a lot of the big james cameron movies but uh i mean it just he
Starting point is 00:26:14 just blew my mind with that we were talking about this guy months ago randomly like hey my uncle texted me he's like isn't it so weird that this james cameron guy is like in the beat it video and all that and then out of nowhere he's in mando blew my mind the the rock terminator aliens i mean just a hell of an imdb page here jesus christ hey this is what i will say about the guy too he just has the look of like he's a number two like that guy you're like oh you're someone's number two like that's clear as day like he's not a number one but he's not a number three he's a strong number two he's rugged he's what i aspire to be like when i go out you know and i try to act tough and then everyone's like like i remember one time i went to the deli the the bagel store and like all the people who
Starting point is 00:26:53 are out working and actually like doing like important shit with their lives are out like getting coffee and i'm getting my iced coffee to go blog from my house for eight hours that's who i aspire to be is someone like that just a tough guy little rugged just a badass motherfucker like he's staring down mando that's that's no fucking uh slight task right there so i'm a big fan of this guy michael bean if we were to make a movie bob michael bean's in it he is in it he was the perfect like 80s 90s action movie star and not star but like you said number two and that like every scene he was in i was like it feels like we're watching die hard right now or like something like that it had that vibe to him and his his outfit he kind of looked like a bounty hunter like dengar i was like i i like this guy i liked pretty much everything about this episode
Starting point is 00:27:34 i liked we're gonna be very i'm gonna sound like a broken record being like i like this i like this i like this but this is a great episode it feels like when michael bean's on the screen there should be a smoky uh corridor or alleyway because like just straight out of the 80s it feels like when Michael beans on the screen, there should be a smoky corridor or alleyway. Cause like just straight out of the eighties, it feels like that is always right behind him at any point. That's where he emerged from is from a smoky alleyway in any given moment. So yeah. And listen, KFC, if you're listening, you motherfucker, we're going to enjoy this episode, right? This was an enjoyable episode.
Starting point is 00:28:00 It was a very good, fun episode. That means a lot to a lot of people who know a lot more than i do so we're gonna enjoy this episode we are going to uh you know we're gonna watch mando's balls a little bit here that was such a nice way to say fuck you kevin fuck you kevin clancy you should have left it alone so uh mando goes out into the forest in search of ahsoka and she finds him before he finds her. She attacks him immediately. And once again, we've got Beskar as the MVP in this season. Remember I said in the podcast that Beskar can deflect lightsabers a few weeks ago? I was like, watch out for this
Starting point is 00:28:35 because I think he could deflect lightsabers. This shit could fucking deflect lightsabers. It really worked. It was like when something, you think it's going to work and you're like, is it really going to work? It really fucking worked. It deflected the lightsabers, shot a little rope at her, which is very Return of the Jedi-esque, like when Bulba shoots it at Luke. And then she gets out of it. He says, Ahsoka Tano, Bo-Katan sent me. Please stop fighting me.
Starting point is 00:28:59 She says, I hope it's to talk about that little guy. And she points right to Baby Yoda. Awesome introduction for these two. Kind of reminded me of Gina Carano's introduction to this series with Mando as as well where they get into the fight and then they both see baby yoda and they're like oh look at him baby yoda is like the instant like he just kills all aggression he's the aggro killer like oh i actually texted jeff this weekend when dave was going on his rampage i was like jeff i'm gonna need you to go remind dave that baby yoda exists yeah just fucking show him the shirt do something it just puts baking powder on like a grease fire or something like that like that is that's actually
Starting point is 00:29:29 a good call to do today i'm gonna keep that in my pocket in case i ever do show up on the day portnoy show at any time soon best car i mean i said it armor style i started chanting mvp in my basement when it stopped that lightsaber i've never seen anything like that before didn't know it was possible till that moment like you said it could happen like it fucking stopped it dead in its track um the best and then i'm just like this best car spear kill this bitch if you have to like that spear is fucking badass and again this this is how you like build the show you build the universe it makes a lot of sense to you know casuals like me i'm sure you guys kind of already knew that but it was it was just really great and i almost used um the analogy for the way
Starting point is 00:30:05 they were kind of going at each other it's like when two good wrestlers are putting on like a match and they're just going through you know they're reversing each other's move that's the way that felt and you felt like ahsoka could have had him if she wanted to but she was kind of feeling him out he used the goddamn flamethrower which come on you're using a flamethrower on the jedi dude you're lucky she didn't fucking just like turn that into a ball and blow your ass up you gotta save the flamethrower for fucking for noobs for lack of a better word it was bad it was a bad look for akai amanda once again it was the the best guard coming up big once again though was so huge it felt like recognizing that steph curry is going to be the
Starting point is 00:30:37 mvp like the beginning of the season and then every three that he hits you're like that's the fucking guy we're watching greatness right now like that is the best car this season what do you think the barstool app had as armor as mvp i mean that's just the field that's like plus 3 000 we have plus 3 000 bets from the first episode we're just like cash this motherfucker in right now i mean the season ends it's like the old season ends today the season ends today armor is winning that you know unanimous no doubt no doubt about it really cool intro and then we get the biggest biggest reveal possibly in the mandalorian's history this entire next scene everything we learn about baby yoda here ahsoka says let me go talk to him she grabs baby yoda i
Starting point is 00:31:17 almost called him something else there she grabs baby yoda takes him fireside some of these shots by the way of them sitting by the fire as mando's looking on i was like i can't believe this is real life i felt like i had taken too much threachi and my dreams had come true and she kind of reads his mind he doesn't talk to her which initially i was like see about the fucking start saying words to her but he doesn't which i was thankful for he keeps making his cute noises his coos and mando says straight up's like, can you talk to that thing? And she's like, kind of, in a way. We can feel each other's thoughts. We can sense them with the Force.
Starting point is 00:31:50 She says that Grogu was actually taken from the Jedi Temple right before the fall of the Republic, right before the Empire took over, right before the end of the Clone Wars, and hidden. And since then, he has suppressed his powers to hide. He's about 50 years old, as we know from the first episode. He was raised at the Jedi Temple. He's trained under many masters.
Starting point is 00:32:12 We know that. And Mando, as soon as he's like, Grogu, she's like, yeah, that's his name. And he turns and he's like, oh, Grogu. Oh, you call me Grogu, yeah. We gotta talk about the name. This is gonna be the biggest focal point of the episode because I texted you about it, Clem.
Starting point is 00:32:24 And I don't think you're super hot about it. I like the name, and I'm going to lay out why I like the name. And I'm not crazy. Initially, I wasn't like, oh, my God, yes, the perfect name. But I heard it, and I was like, I think that works because Grogu, I think, is a wise Yoda-like old man. But right now, Baby Yoda, he's a little goo. He's goo.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Oh, look at goo. Oh, little goo. Clem, you don't like goo? You don't like little baby goo, Clem? Clem, baby goo brings you so much happiness, Clem. I mean, you're helping it. You're helping your cause right now it's just i i heard it i saw it like on my captions and i was like fucking yoda during order
Starting point is 00:33:12 66 like i just clutched my heart and every time someone says it in the show on twitter i read it i hear it like i am the fucking yoda every single time i just oh i just feel pain in me because he's just so cute as baby yoda or the child and he's just and then i don't know man g is an aggressive name grogu like grogu could have been that old fake ass yoda from phantom menace what was that guy's name yondu or yondle yaddle yaddle like that's grogu this guy isn't grogu like he's a little goo it's not his fault either because like if we had gotten grogu from episode one we would have been fine with it but it's just like he started as the child and baby yo and it's like it's not even his fault or the show's fault it's
Starting point is 00:33:56 just like straight up i mean i'm gonna be calling him baby yoda for a little bit for sure there's gonna be a transition process taken over okay i'm just happy that like we're not because i think this is like again this the mandalorian has put a giant band-aid on the fan base of the you know the division that happened during the sequels and not even soul i think everyone hated sold again but the sequels and now it feels like there's like pro grogu and anti-grogu forces and i don't want that to be a thing i I think we can all like, listen, if you're a Grogu person, you could be a Grogu person. That's fine. If you're an anti-Grogu person or you're just, um, you're just a baby Yoda person, whatever means let's not correct each other.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Let's not go in. Yeah, I agree. All sides. I'm saying to both sides right now. This is, this is our time. I do think nicknames can work. I think nicknames are very important. Little goo, grow, grow Hey Grow, Hey Baby, Hey Grow, Hey Baby Grow, Baby Grow. That kind of works, right? Little G? Yeah, Little G. Little G. Put a little G.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Like, oh, can you imagine if he gets a little chain, like a little wrapper chain that has a little G on it? Oh, that would be so cute. We can make this work. We can make Grow Goo work, but I am not all in on it right now. The only tweet I wrote from the episode without trying to do any spoilers, I just wrote no with a period at the end. And Jeff wrote, this is the way. And I'm like, okay, like this is the way that like, I,
Starting point is 00:35:13 I put my faith in the people that made this show. They made, they gave me baby. Yo, they gave me Grogu. I take the good with the bad. It triggers me every time I see it, but I'm going to be all right. We're going to get through this. We're going to get through this together. Dave Filoni. Fucking what's his name i john fabra fabra i never know if i say fabra favor i always say it wrong they're going to take us through this they've gotten us on
Starting point is 00:35:35 this ship together we're back as one we're going to get through this these turbulent waters together fuck the frog lady fuck the frog that's how we're in it fuck the frog lady. Fuck the frog lady. That's how we'll read it. Fuck the frog lady. So here we go. I've got texts from Dave Portnoy. We have come to, this feels like, you know, sort of the main event. Everyone's been waiting. What does Dave think about Grogu? I texted him 1056 AM.
Starting point is 00:35:58 And I said, have you watched The Mandalorian yet? Recording this week's podcast about it soon. And would love to report your thoughts on something, if so. Texted back right away of course i said what do we think about grow goo as a name and dave responded word for word verbatim love the name i actually thought about how long they must have tried to come up with something so perfect and i said agreed little goo is adorable. And then finally, he said, you knew it was perfect when KFC hated it. The most Dave text I've ever received, even behind closed doors. He said, you know, it's got to be good when KFC doesn't like it. The Dave KFC rivalry still burns. I saw Stephen Shea was hating on the Gambit the other day.
Starting point is 00:36:45 He called him KFC. And KFC's had some, you know, he went at Mando, and that's Dave's little precious thing. The fact Dave, again, Dave replying back, that's huge. Dave replying back instantly, I mean, that's all you need to know about where Mando and Baby grow. Hitting me with, of course. It's Black Friday weekend,
Starting point is 00:37:02 one of the most important weekends for the company. And he's like, you don't think I've watched The Mandalorian? What are you, a fucking idiot, Robbie? Dave had to retract his lightsaber from killing one of our coworkers and be like, of course I'm watching it. And he goes back and he's fucking wielding his lightsaber at everyone in the company right there. That's how you know that Dave Portnoy. So I guess I'm going to have to, if I wasn't a baby grow guy, which, again, it's growing on me, I'm going to have to be if I want to keep my job. It's growing on you? It's growing on you?'m gonna have to be if i want to keep my job it's
Starting point is 00:37:25 growing on you it's growing on you grow yeah there we go there we go uh it's it's tough baby girl little g we're nicknaming this motherfucker that's what's gonna happen here i think damn it by blink 182 can be his new theme that could work i mean the pod fathers we have a whole fucking brand about where we just like take kids names and we say if we like them or dislike them and stuff like that i don't think grogu would have passed the smell test um but we are also big nickname people so uh this is this was basically the biggest i mean it trended on twitter it was a fucking like it was a it was a moment it was a legitimate and it didn't get spoiled for me which was i know i was worried about that i texted you it was the only thing we discussed before the episode really i was like did you get grogu spoiled and you're like no i got it got it fresh off the uh closed
Starting point is 00:38:08 captioning now let's talk about some of the other stuff that was revealed aside from the name in this scene she said he was raised at the jedi temple he's trained under many masters and he was hidden i we assume when the massacre happened with anakin coming to the jedi temple and whatnot who do we think was the one that hit him? Because my gut goes to like, all right, if he was hidden, someone must've known something about him beyond, Hey, this guy's pretty powerful with the force. Right. That makes me think maybe he does have a connection to Yoda.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Maybe this is Yoda's son. Maybe he was hidden by a clone. I don't think Yoda could have physically hit him because i think he's on kashyyyk when that shit happened right but maybe yoda told one of the clones if anything happens fucking you saved my my little goo someone photoshopped little baby y'all peering out behind like one of those couches where the younglings are there they just see fucking you know anakin's like lightsaber ablaze and he's just hiding there um that's the thing like i don't think there's there's like all the jedi we know of or really care about are basically like out of pocket at that time so i don't know unless like you said like unless there was like strict orders on someone
Starting point is 00:39:18 whether maybe it was a uh now was it definitely a jedi hit him like you said or could it be a clone i think it could have been a clone yeah she said it was it was uh his memory gets foggy and when someone hit him and you assume that's because of like the trauma or something but when she says something like that it makes me think that we'll get it in a flashback sequence in the same way that we got mando's childhood getting him getting saved by the mandalorians i think we'll get a scene that like mirrors that it's like almost baby yoda's point of view as someone's hiding him in the jedi temple or wherever i think it would be very cool if we got that and it was someone we knew or it could even be like i saw some people saying the guy cal from that jedi order game or maybe he could be the one that comes out when you you know, Yoda eventually calls out to someone.
Starting point is 00:40:07 They could bring in someone we don't know. They could bring in another person from the cartoon, someone from rebels possibly. I don't know, but I think that little nugget that they gave us is important. I think it's important. Someone hit Yoda and, and there's a reason why. Yeah. Grogu, baby. I'm not saying that G word. I told you there's a transition process. Yeah, there is a transition process for everyone.
Starting point is 00:40:29 It's like you're watching the football team. Like we all were saying the wrong word for a while there. That is now gone. We've beat it out of us. Shout out to Antonio Gibson putting numbers on motherfuckers on Thanksgiving for the Basement Boys. See, this is the thing. There's a good chance it's going to be something from the cartoons
Starting point is 00:40:44 or something from someone I don't know. So I feel like that's probably going to be the thing. There's a good chance it's going to be something from the cartoons or something from someone I don't know. So I feel like that's probably going to be the thing. I just hope they handle it. They do a flashback. They handle it. Right. Cause the way they handled the Kylo Ren at Luke Skywalker's fucking sleepaway camp or whatever it was, flashbacks didn't do it for me. I want them to handle this one. Right. And I think they will. But it is cool. And also the reason why I think Yoda could be involved is because of the whole,
Starting point is 00:41:05 no, there is another with Obi-Wan. We always thought it was Leia. Maybe it was little fucking little G-Man here. Little G-Man! G-Man! G-Man! I'm thinking Giants here. I'm thinking merch, Rob. I'm thinking merch right now. Black Friday, go to Barstool Sports Store. 20% off. Cyber Monday, excuse me.
Starting point is 00:41:20 The little G-Man. All right, there you go. Maybe that could be your way in. Baby steps, baby steps. The little G-Man. So he says, hey, can you train my little g-man all right there you go maybe that could be your way in baby steps baby steps a little g-man so he says hey can you train my little g-man here they do a little test where she says hey float the rock over grogu here you go here's a rock not really working she says how about you try you try to make a connection with him and he takes the little ball from the ship that we saw last season even unscrewed at the beginning of this episode he's like come on grogu you got this.
Starting point is 00:41:45 It's definitely a dad in front of someone else being like, watch what my kid could do. He's all right. He's cool. Immediately, he pulls that thing out of Mando's hands. He's proud. He's like, look at him. You did it.
Starting point is 00:41:56 I knew you could do it. He's a dad watching his son get a hit in Little League, you know? Ahsoka says, listen, I can't train him. You have a father-like connection to him. And I've seen what that could do to a jedi in the past and she takes a long pause so you know she's talking about anakin obviously and that goes back to anakin's connection to his mother and his fear of what would happen to her if she got hurt i think little grogu's developing the same connection
Starting point is 00:42:20 to the mandalorian where he's like i don't want anything to happen to this little helmeted freak that won't take his little thing off he's my dad i love this guy so she says i can't train him he says all right listen we'll work out the details of that later and he gets his side quest for the episode so he's like listen the magistrate sent me to kill you like i came out here i didn't kill you how about you train my little guy she says all right let's go into town together they'll never expect a mandalorian and and a Jedi together because they had wars in the past. She goes into town. She throws his piece of Beskar from his shoulder onto the ground. She says, your Mandalorian was unsuccessful and kind of badass their plan the way they went about it, thinking that, oh, she killed him.
Starting point is 00:43:00 He swoops in to save villagers at the end. She starts with her lightsabers frying up all these droids they were they were very cool kind of assassin droids i don't know what they they were prequely but they we've never seen them in the prequels they look like something we could see in the new trilogy but they weren't i like them she was frying them up like they were butter though as george lucas would say jumping from building to building really showing her acrobatics off and uh eventually we get two separate groups she goes off with the magistrate and we get a very samurai-esque bonsai tree you know face off where we're getting a side view constantly it was like mortal combat the view
Starting point is 00:43:38 we were getting and then we get in the alleyway her number two with mando in a very western standoff and he was really great in this scene michael being the way he was like who do you think's gonna win could be my side could be yours and then like when you hear the best guard thing drop he's like well i guess you won i love that and throughout this whole scene my favorite thing about it honestly was like the sound design the way the beskar sounded against the lightsaber and then what the way they would cut back to mando and the number two and you would hear it from like way far away i thought that was so cool i got i think that's just like filmmaking you know what i mean like that shit that my idiot ass
Starting point is 00:44:18 doesn't really like understand or appreciate or could think of but then you see you're like that's so fucking cool the way they did it kind of goes into the dark side of things just like you know it started like with a visual right with all the ahsoka stuff and then it becomes this like you're hearing it kind of way of going about it it was two very cool ways to just show a fight and the way it all went down um yeah michael bean was so cool the way he went about it with the the talking shit or whatever she lost the lightsaber at one point i was like freaking out about that i thought she lost a hand i'm like damn she lost a hand like everyone keeps losing these hands i mean it's okay i mean that was just straight up i mean that was a rookie mode for her the magistrate can i call the magistrate a c word because she was very c word worthy i'm not gonna
Starting point is 00:44:58 say it but i wanted to ask can i say i mean she's a villain so i think yeah she works for thrawn who's basically star wars hitler so i think you can that's true for what i can gather he does sound like he's there was it like um and this is a double fight was just so fucking cool even um i didn't love that that robot came at the last second and uh mando wiped him out but it did feel a little bit like again this is just because i just watched die hard is that it felt like when carl comes back out after being hung inside and he comes and then you know how powell takes care of him between the eyes or whatever the fuck it is also the stone passing i loved auntie ahsoka i love seeing her become a little ant right in front of our faces it was beautiful to see um the the whole like like you said mando
Starting point is 00:45:46 being an anxious parent i could tell you like that's what you feel like when your kids out on the soccer field for the first time or they're just doing anything they're doing art and you're just like come on you could do we've done this together and they do it like you just get so fucking proud i was so happy for him i was happy for little baby g fucking anakin just ruining everything with the goddamn killing everybody just fucking goddammit anakin and um yeah that was just a good episode i don't know what else to say other than that it was just a good ass episode i got vibes when ahsoka was battling the magistrate we were hearing it from a distance of a new hope of darth vader and obi-wan as other people are watching it happen and it's like a slow intense lightsaber battle
Starting point is 00:46:25 one per it's more about like the dialogue than even the combat because she wanted information and the information she wanted which for you know hardcore star wars fans went blew all our minds she says where is your leader where is grand admiral? Now, if you don't know who Thrawn is, Grand Admiral Thrawn was originally introduced by Timothy Zane in the Thrawn Trilogy novel series. These were books released in the 80s after the original trilogy, and this was originally considered the sequel trilogy. This was what people considered the Star Wars universe to be going forward. And he was a massively popular villain. Like I mentioned before, he's basically Star Wars Hitler. He was a master war tactician. And it got to the point where all of a sudden, right after Return of the Jedi, we think the
Starting point is 00:47:16 war is over. This guy pops up out of nowhere and he starts winning battles left and right. When Disney bought Lucasfilm, they threw out all previous extended universe stuff, as we've mentioned before, but then they brought him back in Rebels. Dave Filoni realized, hey, this guy is, you know, one of the most beloved villains we've got in the extended universe. Let's bring him back. Let's make him canon. And he is a Chiss. He's blue. He kind of looks like Pierce Brosnan. I think there's a lot of lot of great actors they could get to play this guy he eventually joined up with the galactic empire there was a brief period i believe where he was like a free agent he's like the hottest free agent in the galaxy and he met
Starting point is 00:47:54 up with anakin like during the clone wars and anakin was like why don't you come over to our side he was like no fucking way i'm joining the super team over here went over to the empire i think this was a setup for the Ahsoka show. I think this episode was sort of a backdoor pilot for her, as it was rumored to be. And I don't know, I just got those vibes. I could be wrong about that. But the whole way she went about that, they didn't really address it.
Starting point is 00:48:18 They kept it, you know, very much to her. She didn't tell Mando, hey, I've got this issue with this massive Thrawn guy. I think he is going to be the main, you knowoth gideon type villain in her show we're gonna get like a star wars connected tv universe kind of like we have the mcu for movies we'll have it in tv for star wars that's kind of what i think a lot of people are thinking this felt like a disney plus like up front it's like all right we're gonna get the ahsoka show and all this kind of stuff it's all gonna be popping up i don't think again i'd rather have some like let's not we don't have to go full cinematic things we can go tv shows if you want to go fucking cartoons go cartoons i don't care but um yeah it does feel like that and i didn't know much about thrawn as well i put in my notes
Starting point is 00:48:58 and i'm like all right and i saw here um you had the meme about you know your your brother teaching you about the star wars movies and that was the ninja turtles as kids and splinter and then you're teaching him about the cartoons as the grown turtle to like old master splinter getting old and that's kind of what it's going to be like for you know casuals like me who grew up with the movies that are going to need like guys like you and the lights camera barstool guys devlin i know is huge into that stuff you guys are going to have to kind of walk me through this i love the idea of fucking thrawn doing like the decision and he's like i'm taking my talents to the empire you know
Starting point is 00:49:28 straight up lebron style wearing the fucking picnic shirt you know the picnic blanket shirt and all that kind of stuff i mean i was trying to figure out like what he is and i mean star wars hitler sounds like a bad motherfucker to me so i don't know if i want to mess with this guy sounds like one bad man pajama he's blue and like you said he does have like the look he looks like the one of the mon stars the blue mon star but he's just like kind of shrunk down to normal size i don't know he he looks foreboding as a cartoon character well yeah absolutely so i'm excited for that especially considering rosario's performance in this which we talked about we've touched on throughout the entire episode i thought she was so great that i'm like yes give her a show fucking as much ahsoka as you could give us fucking slam
Starting point is 00:50:09 people through trees through bells anything like she was awesome she was awesome so just give her her own show give us as much star wars content as we could take in especially if dave filoni's involved i posted the meme as well i'm just like praising the heavens that dave filoni that cowboy hat wearing motherfucker is in charge of everything. Taking things from the extended universe and cartoons is the new version of, hey, this is from the books. You know, like, oh, that's from the comics. They took it from the comics.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Yes. That's kind of the new age. Hey, they took it from the cartoons. They're taking the best stuff that's already been battle tested. That's already, you know, worked with, and they're just making it better. I love it. Put this stuff in the right hands. You have the source material.
Starting point is 00:50:48 You have stuff to grow off of. You can kind of sprinkle in some stuff from the original trilogy, there's prequels, the sequels, all that stuff, the way the ingredients are there. And if you want to make something new, make something new altogether too.
Starting point is 00:50:59 It's like, this is, I think, what Star Wars fans have been hoping for through all this stuff. And again, Disney, the thing is, Disney wiped away all that canon stuff. They can bring back the stuff they like. That's the good thing about it. They can pick and choose. And people who put their heart and soul into this stuff, they obviously care about this
Starting point is 00:51:16 franchise a lot. I think we're in a good place right now, which is all you can ask for. Yeah. So the town celebrates. It's a very Return of the Jedi happy vibe. The music was very Return of the jedi happy vibe the music was very return of the jedi-esque uh our guy that we love that villager he gets the robe as we mentioned and then ahsoka says listen i know you were about to go say goodbye to grogu which nobody in their
Starting point is 00:51:35 right mind believed i know we feared that eventually mando's gonna have to say goodbye to this kid we didn't think it was happening in this episode at least i did he says i just can't your connection to him as a father is too strong there's one other way though you could bring him to this uh new planet i forget what it's called uh typhon i wrote it down you could bring him to typhon yes and there's some ancient ruins there's a jedi temple and if you sit him atop a seeing stone he may reach out and choose his own path a A Jedi may sense his presence, may sense that he's calling out, and I don't know, come rescue him, come join him, come train him. We're not really sure. I have a theory about this.
Starting point is 00:52:17 We've heard a lot about Mace Windu, right? In terms of just rumors, people are saying Samuel L. Jackson coming back to Star Wars in any way would be cool. I think this is the way to do it. And I'm not really with the people that want to bring him back from the dead because I think his death scene is – I mean, I get that it's Star Wars and we brought the Emperor back so we could do whatever. But I don't know. His death scene, it seemed like he died. What if this ancient Jedi temple is being guarded by Jedi spirits?
Starting point is 00:52:48 And as we get there, it's sort of Mando doesn't even know how to control it. I believe Jeff told me this planet in the extended universe is almost hard for non Jedi to go to. It's like the atmosphere is hard for them to whatever. What if Mando's like, what the fuck is happening? And it's almost like a dream sequence. And then we hear like Samuel L.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Jackson's voice. And he's like, Oh, Grogu, good to see you. Or, you know, hey, motherfucker, what are you doing with that little Yoda guy? That could be really cool. And you could get even like, if you give us a Liam Neeson, if you get him in a fucking recording studio,
Starting point is 00:53:18 just to record a line, something like that, where it's Qui-Gon speaking to Grogu from, you know, he was the first jedi that was able to figure out how to use force ghosts and talk to jedi in the present stuff like that that could be a really cool way to give us a little bit without giving us too much yeah you don't need luke to be the guy to show up there right just because the timelines match up and shit like that like that does not need to happen yeah i'd be down for force ghost i mean it could
Starting point is 00:53:44 be could be someone that uh i don't know that's in the cartoons or whatever the thing is order 66 did take away like a good chunk and ahsoka was i think kind of the the number one even though she's technically not a jedi is that right she's yeah i would i would say she's technically not because she left the jedi order even though she like she has all the same ideals as the jedi she basically is a jedi she's just not under the classification yeah and I feel like she's like the biggest name or face that you would have said all right who who could they reveal here obviously she's already been revealed and it won't be her again maybe hey like the show keeps you on your toes like maybe Yoda says no maybe little g says no to that but yet he ends up doing something else with the force
Starting point is 00:54:24 I'm kind of i'm kind of interested to see the way it all shakes out and that's like i'm interested to see what mando's task will have you know it's always mando needs to have a task he's gonna have to do that to get you know someone's gonna have to let him onto the fucking whatever the hell it is the the mountain top or whatever it feels like he's gonna have to do some sort of thing that's just kind of the formula has been with this but again there's a lot of other Jedi. How many Jedi do you think are currently alive at this point in the universe? I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:54:54 Maybe a dozen? Yeah, because we thought Luke, right? And then at that point, I guess, well, at this point luke could be training people right maybe yeah could be kylo and the the knights of red like there's there are other jedi alive at this point post-empire falling so or at least people being trained so yeah i'm kind of i'm i'm very excited to see and again i'm completely it's it's almost at the point with um who's the guy who's uh feige kevin feige like it's like i feel like this is in good hands i feel like they're gonna do whatever is right here basically the way it's gonna go
Starting point is 00:55:29 oh that was the other thing i say though when ahsoka's like where's the little guy he's like oh i left him the chip and i'm like there's a tracking device on that ship you asshole i was shocked utterly shocked that that little girl was just chilling there fucking not kidnapped or like had like a stormtrooper with a gun against it i was ready to kill mando for that like dude he doesn't know the tracking device is on a ship but we are in a world where we know the empire is active they are doing stuff for you know they are building whole labs for this guy you have to just have your head on a swivel at all times right now, Mando. And he clearly doesn't have that.
Starting point is 00:56:08 I mean, before we get into questions, I have one more theory regarding that tracking device, regarding the end of the season and regarding your theory. Actually, it's sort of building on your theory last week that we would get an Empire Strikes Back ending to the season, kind of a downer ending. I think the finale, episode eight, Mandalorian season two, he's going to bring him to this planet. He's goinger ending i think the finale episode 8 mandalorian season 2 he's gonna bring him to this planet he's gonna put him on the seeing stone baby yoda's about to like something big is about to happen and we'll hear the fucking dark saber ignite moff gideon has followed him to this planet and we get he's got the beskar spear now we get this
Starting point is 00:56:41 battle beskar spear versus the dark saberaber, and Moff Gideon fucking defeats him, takes Baby Yoda, leaves credits. I mean, I'm kind of like resigned to just bad shit happening. I was going to go another way and say maybe Baby Yoda, he felt the love of torture, of
Starting point is 00:57:02 bullying, taking that kid's cookies, and he started showing a little bit of darks, dabbling in the dark side you know so um i yeah i could see that i could definitely see that too i have a little conspiracy theory for you i thought of um during the fight with um ahsoka and and mando which by the way if you see a jedi and a mandalorian coming at your ass you're like oh fuck um do you think that we could maybe get a reveal of like the beef between the mandalorian and jedi was really rooted at someone in the sith kind of planning that and you know knowing that you know just get those two abhorring with each other you know what i mean yeah a little russian i think we'll learn more about that for sure because that's something that they've sort of
Starting point is 00:57:39 dove it into in the clone wars but they've done a good job so far of explaining that for the people that didn't watch the clone wars anything that you actually do need explained. And I think that's like a pretty big factor in their history. So I hope they go into that more on the Mandalorian for sure. All right, let's get into questions. We've got a bunch this week, so I'll try to power through as many as we can get through. First one comes in. And as always, if you want to ask a question, we record these on Sundays, go to our twitter feed you could tweet us on sundays if we see your question we'll read it on the show aaron jesse this is actually a friend of mine from years ago he runs a uh gorilla exhibition in a zoo he said i can't wait for this pod you guys have been on fire this season as someone who
Starting point is 00:58:19 hasn't seen the animated series do you guys recommend watching all of them or just select episodes also are there specific books that fall within canon that you suggest watching all of them or just select episodes also are there specific books that fall within canon that you suggest so all of the new books within canon written by claudia gray i suggest she's my favorite current star wars author she's written a book about leia she wrote lost stars she's written a bunch of good ones there are good books by chuck wendig a trilogy called aftermath which takes place right after Return of the Jedi. This is where we first learned about Cobb Vanth. So if you're interested in that, I would recommend those. Those are the two main authors. I would say Chuck Wendig and Claudia
Starting point is 00:58:54 Gray. And then as far as the animated series, I know a lot of people would recommend just go through all of them. I actually am one of the people that recommend just going through specific episodes, especially if you're just looking to get into them and you're not really sure if you're going to like it. Some people just don't like animated series. Some people don't like cartoons. That's fine. I understand it. So if you look up like the most important arcs in the Clone Wars, the most important arcs in Rebels, a lot of the story is told in like three episodes spurts, and then it'll be another four episodes spurt, and then a three three episode spurt and then a one-off. So if you look up the most important ones,
Starting point is 00:59:28 I think that's the way to go about it. And then if you like those, you could go in and watch as many as you'd like. Yeah. I don't know. I don't do any of the, you know, real books and, and in the car, like I'm trying to figure out like, how I'm going to get these cartoons into my brain. Cause this is what I've realized. You don't need to watch the cartoons to enjoy the Mandalorian, but it's one of those things i think it's going to increase your enjoyability of it all it's kind of like when i watched infinity war without having the background
Starting point is 00:59:54 of a lot of the more recent movies because i was right after sienna was born is i just didn't have time to go to the movies so i didn't see guardians one or two in the theaters and i love the guardians in infinity war it's like oh i like these dudes let me go back and re-watch it then i re-watched that i re-watched a couple of the other marvel movies that i had missed during that like i went when you're when your kids are born it's like baby grow everything just goes dark for a little bit and like you don't remember what happens and it's just a period of darkness in your life nothing you don't sleep you don't eat it's just craziness i have to go back and watch that because i do think once i watched guardians and all that stuff, it made Endgame that much more enjoyable. I couldn't imagine seeing it without all that background.
Starting point is 01:00:28 And I imagine that's how you guys are feeling with this Mandalorian stuff. I don't think I could watch like five seasons worth of cartoons. Maybe a couple YouTube videos explaining it. Maybe there's like usually like 10-minute season recaps people do where they kind of just put the highlights together. I think that's kind of the way to go about it. As for the books, the only book I ever read was Shadows of the Empire, which I just love. It's such a deep cut that all these Star Wars diehards
Starting point is 01:00:48 always give me respect for reading the goddamn book just because I like the video game so much from Nintendo 64. We've got another one from Clayton Caroll, and this is one that I've seen a ton, so I want to bring it up. He said, will Luke Skywalker make a cameo this season? And I've seen it because the timelines match up we've seen you know they've digitally taken luke's age back and rise of skywalker people have brought up sebastian stan as a possible actor that could play him i don't think
Starting point is 01:01:15 we're going to see luke skywalker i really don't i think sure it would be cool to think hey maybe luke came upon grogu at one point i think there's a chance we get a Mark Hamill voice cameo. If Grogu reaches out, I would be okay hearing Luke say something like, is someone trying to reach out through the Force? Like, you know, something strange like that, but that's it. I don't think we need Luke. I think I would rather see other cameos. I would rather see, like, Cal, the guy from that Jedi Fallen Order video game.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Connect everything like that before you bring stuff back to the original trilogy i think clem you probably feel the same way we've talked about it on the podcast a ton like sort of leave that stuff alone yeah this is the thing about luke it's like his his absence and disappearance and all that stuff is such a mystery in the sequels that i do think if you see him it it would cheapen a lot and again it doesn't matter it doesn't make a difference in the long run but i do think like him just going straight fucking ghosting and the little sicilian grandmas are the only people that know who he is i kind of like that side of thing or where he is i should say um like again expand the universe and the thing is if they bring them in and it's fucking
Starting point is 01:02:18 good i'm gonna be like yeah that was awesome you know what i mean every time i say like let's keep the star wars universe like let's not go back to the old, go back to the well. And every time they go to the well, it's good. So it's kind of like, I do understand that you can make it really good. But it does seem like Luke Skywalker was basically became like this, like mythical figure by that point. Now, actually, now that I'm saying this, I am remembering though that this is a time where he hadn't got into hiding.
Starting point is 01:02:42 Right. At this point, he's still, he's training and stuff like that. So I guess I kind of take back what I, like back what i like i i guess maybe it depends on the timeline it may not be the case like that so um hey maybe fucking baby grow grow is the one who fucked up this whole cairo rent thing he's the one that caused this whole fucking incident to happen by mistake people have brought that up people are saying saying, what if, you know, eventually the finale is we reunite Grogu with Luke. He becomes one of the Jedi that Luke starts training and Kylo Ren killed him as he left. And we were saying, like, you can't avenge Kylo Ren, make him Ben Solo and then be like, oh, by the way, he fucking killed your favorite character. It's like, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:03:21 You can't do that. You can't do that. That's not true. That's impossible arson wengod wrote and he said an empire strikes back yoda tells luke for 800 years i have trained to be a jedi knowing this and grogu's past on coruscant what are your thoughts on his aging do you think he'd be able to become a jedi master at 100 or maybe when his memory went dark like ahsoka said it stunted his development i'm not really sure about this, but I thought it was an important question to bring up because so many people, Hank included, texted me and were like, dude, how does this make any sense
Starting point is 01:03:53 that Grogu can be this important figure knowing that the sequel trilogy exists and he's not in it? Grogu at this point is 50. Yoda was about 800, 900 years old when he died he's only going to be this is uh 25 years before the force awakens so grogu is only going to be 75 by the time that trilogy happens i don't think he would be old enough to play a big factor in the sequel trilogy to be honest i think he would still basically be a baby a toddler if that he would only be a little bit bigger than he is now so i don't think
Starting point is 01:04:25 that's necessarily an issue some people are pointing it out as like a plot hole in the star wars universe like how can this go on the other thing is thus far in the mandalorian there's been no galaxy ending stakes there's been no planets being destroyed there's been no if we don't get to this ship in this time everything's done it's all all pretty standard, like city to city stakes. So I don't think that's an issue. As far as Grogu's aging, I'm not sure, but I think he's definitely the future of Star Wars. I think he goes way beyond the Mandalorian.
Starting point is 01:04:56 I think when I'm 50 years old, we're still going to be talking about Grogu and he's going to be an old man. Yeah, that would be cool i i i didn't even think about like what what could be his future i did hear a conspiracy theory that maybe the fact kind of uh going back on what you said too with um with yoda if if maybe this guy does have some sort of you know blood of yoda's family in him maybe yoda did have like hey keep this guy safe if shit even seems to be going down if it's a cloudy day outside put him in the panic room kind of a thing so and so wait what was this question do you think yoda would still be do you
Starting point is 01:05:35 think rogu would still be able to become a jedi master at around 100 which is i believe is where we think yoda became a jedi master or did his memory going dark stunt his growth i feel like yeah i i do think that he i don't know about like master and the way these fucking little guys go right like seeing yoda at his age in the in the um prequels was crazy to see him do those little backflips and shit like that i feel like he's gonna be like hour 11 from stranger things where he's doing cool shit but it overwhelms him so it's like you don't have this nuclear weapon. You're like an atomic bomb instead of a nuclear bomb. But that fucking thing can do damage.
Starting point is 01:06:09 You know what I mean? Yeah. He's a cool guy. He can do big damage, though. We got two more. I love this one. Michael J. Fats wrote in and he says, people always mention cameos from Luke, Yoda, Obi-Wan,
Starting point is 01:06:22 but wouldn't Han, Leia, or even Mando be more likely? They're probably much more connected to the events of the Mandalorian in the Outer Rim. I think an interaction between Mando and Lando would be awesome. I hadn't considered that, but thinking about Donald Glover interacting with Din Djarin as Lando, I kind of of love that that's my favorite thing about solo you know we're not a big solo podcast here but i love donald glover as lando i thought he was pretty friggin good if just in one episode we go to some planet where lando is i think that would be fun as hell that would be like yeah that's the lando episode now i i'm down for that i am down for any donald glover in just life.
Starting point is 01:07:05 I don't know. I don't know. I don't watch Atlanta. I don't know much about him. I don't know Childish Gambino. Childish Gambino, right? That's his name. And I didn't love Solo by any means.
Starting point is 01:07:14 I thought dude fucking his robot was kind of weird, all that kind of shit. I also love Lando Calrissian. I love his aura. I love everything about him. Like making like when you heard he was going to be Mando, it just felt right. And then when you saw it actually pulled off, it just felt wrong because it was in that movie.
Starting point is 01:07:31 You know what I mean? It wasn't anything to do with Glover. It was just like, I feel like there's more there. There's more meat on the bone. So I'm 100% down for that to be a thing. It doesn't have to be the centerpiece of an episode or a whole season arc. But just like you said, like the Lando episode, episode again with my boy lobot maybe chilling in the background again i've been asking
Starting point is 01:07:49 for this lobot fucking origin story for a while now i'm starting to get a little impatient here fabra so if you can make that happen i think everyone wins by the way the more i think about it bro the more i think about it we got to do lobot and lando as celebration costumes i'll just be the whitest lando ever i'll have like no swag but i'll have the cape and everything i'll do a little mustache the little lando mustache it'll be amazing oh hey don't sell yourself short bob fox like you have some swagger to you now you got fucking dana like i come to the basement and i'm like oh like who's uh monster energy because i was like dana white's. I'm sitting in Dana White's seat right now. The cushions are still warm from his butt.
Starting point is 01:08:28 And, like, it's crazy to see. So, Bob Fox, you got a little bit of swagger. I'm not saying Lando's swagger because that's basically impossible. Impossible. But, you know, the only other guy who could pull off that fucking cheetah suit that Portnoy wore in the pizza review is Lando. That might have been Lando's actual outfit for all I know. And Dave just took it from me.
Starting point is 01:08:44 He put it on a game of – what's the name of the card? Tabak. Tabak. There we go. All right. Our final question from Brian Parsons, and this is a good one because it sort of overarches the entire season going forward. He said, of all the teases so far, Boba Fett, Thrawn, Metachlorians, other Jedi, et cetera,
Starting point is 01:09:03 which, if any, will we learn more about this season personally i think it's boba fett i think he's the only one we'll revisit i don't know how we'll revisit him i mean moff gideon will be back because he's got the tracking device i think that's a given i think boba fett will somehow come back before the season is over and even to that point shout out to dave feloni and john favara for making a show so fucking good that they teased boba fett at the end of episode one and we're at the end of episode five here and we're not like dying for him we're not like where's boba you teased him you're not bringing it back it's just a good show so we're like yeah we'll get to him yeah no that's that's a good way
Starting point is 01:09:38 to put it i mean they've kind of kept us off balance it's like a good a good nfl offense you can pass you can run throw deep throw short or is it keeping us and it's like i don't know what's coming next and i'm not keying on anything so wait it was boba or who was the other one boba thrawn uh possibly more about baby yoda the midichlorians what they were trying to do with him other jedi i feel like yeah i feel like boba is going to be more tied to the mandalorian when it's all said and done and i don't know how much shelf life he has i mean he could have an entire shelf life, whether it's a show, some sort of a movie thing or something like that.
Starting point is 01:10:09 I do feel like maybe Yoda down the road. I mean, this is his show kind of, right? And I thought it was going to, people were worried about it becoming the anti-Ahsoka and Yoda show down the road. And that was kind of scary. And yeah, I think Thrawn, I'm a hundred percent convinced
Starting point is 01:10:23 that's going to be the Ahsoka spin-off or whatever it may be which is very interesting now that this show becomes a vehicle to launch other things you know what i mean definitely and i'm glad that you brought up that some people thought grogu was going to be going off with aunt ahsoka and just hey we're going to pass this guy off like a football to every new show they're going to get a season of baby yoda that can't happen i love love love ahsoka she's got more than enough backstory to fill up that entire show baby yoda grogu and the mandalorian that's the fucking connection made in heaven don't separate these two imagine that if like like at barstool it's like you want your show to get a little pop throw big cat on there for an
Starting point is 01:11:00 episode and everyone's gonna be like that's fucking awesome they just did that with fucking baby yo they're like up check the ahsoka we got baby yo for at least three episodes we'd all watch right like that's just kind of how it goes is is big cat our baby yo that's the question we have to be asking ourselves is big cat our baby yo it's tough because i mean no offense to dan he doesn't bring the cuteness factor do we have someone that brings the cuteness yourself god damn you ever see him do the little wisconsin belly norman little norman with his big dick sweet norman with his big dick oh god i didn't know i i just wanted to ask the question big comparing big cat to baby yoda i think you threw norman's dick in there wow i love where we've
Starting point is 01:11:41 come yeah if you don't know norman like you don't even want to look this up, but Hank and Ria who have been on the podcast, but they've got this dog, it's a wiener dog. And Oh my goodness, the wiener on this wiener dog is the biggest wiener you've ever seen a wiener have on a wiener. That's it for this week's podcast though. Oh, there you go. That's a Mandalorian chapter 13. Grogu is a, should be the name of Norman's penis. I will say that, that works and I'm sorry, but that's a Grogu should be the name of Norman's penis. I will say that. That works. And I'm sorry for putting the mental official. But that's a Grogu.
Starting point is 01:12:07 He has a Grogu between his legs. I mean, Grogu literally translates to semen. Yeah. That takes two things. They grow and they goo. Grogu. Boom. I just ruined Grogu for everyone.
Starting point is 01:12:16 I apologize. Hopefully you stop listening while I'm doing this. Yeah. All right. We're calling this podcast before we get ourselves into any more trouble. Talk to you next week.

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