My Mom's Basement - EPISODE 98 - THE MANDALORIAN SEASON 2 EPISODE 8 RECAP WITH CLEM!

Episode Date: December 21, 2020

Robbie and Clem recap the final episode of The Mandalorian Season 2 in a podcast almost as bittersweet as the finale. As a bonus, we've got some thoughts from Jeff D Lowe, KenJac, Joey Mulinaro, Hank,... and Frank The Tank as a substitute for outro music this week. 3Chi: Use code ROBBIE at checkout to receive 5% off at 3Chi.comYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. The final Mandalorian episode of the season, the finale, aired this past Friday, and I am here with my main man Clem to talk about all of it. Man Clem, it was an emotional experience watching the finale on Friday. Dude, that was, uh, that was something there. That was something there. Like, it was basically the polar opposite of two weeks ago when we lost baby grow and all that kind of stuff it was kind of a it energized me throughout my day it also was one of those things like this friday thing is a
Starting point is 00:00:35 problem or this like friday release because i basically had to do like a i was trying to think of a word that rhymes with bake but like it was like a wake and bake it was a wake and watch i guess because i couldn't even like i turned it on and i was like i can't even turn on twitter without watching mando because i i can't have anything spoiled for me and if i had gotten any of this spoiled for me i would have been devastated by it and uh it's basically i think people did a pretty good job on it and i think we have until monday which is when this comes out i I think spoilers. I have a ton of memes banked up that I'm just storing them. And I sent you the kid with the Dane in his Ford.
Starting point is 00:01:12 That's all I could do is I'm just like, let me release it. I don't know, like tweeting, like anything about Mandalorian. Cause I don't want people to like, be like, is that a good thing? Is that a bad thing? I want you to think every episode is going to be like KFC says, just same formulaic bullshit, which again, it's kind of having a tough go of it. Our boy cab in the last few weeks with Mando happening. So I, I don't know. That was, it was awesome. It was awesome. It was incredible. It was one of those episodes that I of course stayed up till three in the morning to watch.
Starting point is 00:01:39 It was like, how could I not? And like you said, I think people were good about it on Twitter. The issue is the trending topics, because as soon as I woke up, how could I not? And like you said, I think people were good about it on Twitter. The issue is the trending topics. Because as soon as I woke up, I realized, obviously, spoilers for this podcast. If you're listening to this podcast, you haven't seen Mando. I don't know what you're doing. But on Monday morning or on Friday morning, Luke Skywalker was a trending topic, as was the Book of Boba Fett. So it's like, ooh, that's tough for a one-two punch, you know, right there. If you truly, truly, truly care about not getting spoiled,
Starting point is 00:02:07 you just got to watch the episode before you go on Twitter. You cannot go on social media, even Instagram. I'm sure that could, you know, I don't know if they have the trending topics, but they could be in the Explorer page or whatever. You just got to stay off social media until you watch the episode, especially with a finale. Like, what are you thinking going on social media
Starting point is 00:02:23 while the finale is out there for the world to see and that's exactly i had known the finale was coming and there's just there's just no way around it in the world we live in i almost wish that they had like a it sucks that everyone in the west coast like technology wise and obviously it's a hub for entertainment they're like well you guys are on our time now so if it was you know midnight midnight thursday into friday i could live So if it was, you know, midnight, midnight, Thursday into Friday, I could live with if it was Eastern and then they'd have it at 9 PM. They'd be fine on the West coast. It sucks. If you're, I would say, if you're in England, what would that know in England? You're actually,
Starting point is 00:02:54 you're waking up at like a nice time at like eight o'clock in the morning. You can do it just fine. It's brutal, but it's just one of those things you have to just go with. The trending topics is a problem. I know that's what spoiled a couple of things a few weeks ago. So that so that would do it here so um but yeah this is a very bittersweet day this is our we have our mandos on the calendar the football season's winding down now it's all coming to a head and i got sienna i watched this one with sienna as well so she's getting into it i feel like there's a chance aj could get into it my neighbors i found out watch it and there's a
Starting point is 00:03:23 girl who's a year older than sienna there so like i'm gonna definitely poison their minds into becoming star wars fans uh when it's all said and done my nephew luke loved the episode i facetimed with him last night and he was like did you see luke skywalker show up at the end and r2d2 can you believe it then even my niece who's younger than him was like r2d2 i know I know R2-D2. It really, Jon Favreau, Dave Filoni, everyone involved with this. Thank you for uniting all generations of Star Wars fans, all kinds of Star Wars fans, the people that hated the last Jedi, the people that loved the last Jedi, the people that hated the sequel trilogy, the people that loved it. They really brought us all together.
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Starting point is 00:07:41 We see an Imperial shuttle running away from the slave one and we zoom in we see inside we have uh dr kershing i think that's his name he is the cloning doctor that was experimenting on baby yoda in season one we saw him deliver a message to moff gideon via hologram this season they get hit with an ion cannon which we love as star wars fans like whenever something gets disabled and boarded, we're like ion cannons, fucking static electricity. Mando boards the ship and there's a great interrogation scene between Cara Dune and this asshole Imperial shuttle pilot where he's like, oh, I see your teardrop.
Starting point is 00:08:17 I see Alderaan. I'm glad we blew that thing up. She's like, oh, well, were you on the Death Star? Which one? And they're going back about their fucking blown up planets and eventually she shoots him right in the face because he's being a dickhole to her he really is being an asshole and it was again i was almost expecting a clerk's reference where they're going to be like yes you know how many janitors and independent contractors died
Starting point is 00:08:38 on that ship that was my favorite part i was just smirking i was like are they doing this on purpose are they fucking with us like it feels like something favreau would probably do right and i i did appreciate that that doctor i i it's it's ken jack and marty mush's baby it's them two combined because he has but he has the beard like marty mush so it was fucking me up really badly seeing all that is that a cold open because it felt like a hot open because it was like holy shit we're in the middle of fucking yeah you're right that was a hot open i don't know what you want to call it and i was like i don't want to call it a hot open and then everyone's like oh well actually it's a cold whatever the fuck it was it was craziness right off the jump and i was like finale is here
Starting point is 00:09:15 i'm so happy uh when i said like wake up like i was like my eyes were like just shutting on their own because i had just woken up and i was like i am not strong enough to just ignore twitter even first thing in the morning i'm not strong enough to be able to do it so it was one of those things where i was like i have to get it and then it was like oh wait we're on a ride let's fucking rock and roll i loved seeing the empire being the ones being chased for once instead of them always doing the chasing i love that shuttle i don't know if with the i know shuttle tydarian was like the code name for it in uh jedi it's one of my favorite shuttles just have it folds up and it's so like clean the way it does it it was so cool looking and like you said the
Starting point is 00:09:49 ion cannon that scratches you know and it for me as a tie fighter x-wing x-wing versus tie fighter fan as i was like i knew that i mean i was like oh i used to love disabling shifts i loved it more than blowing them up it's like that fucker is just floating in space and he has nowhere to go right now i used to love doing that to to people in dog fights the alderaan tier was cool and again they kind of referenced that and we've talked about that shit in the past clearly people know when they see someone from alderaan they like try to like really fuck with them which is really sick and twisted but i guess that guy like played the emperor like we kind of saw the other human side of stormtroopers along the way and stuff we get to just see like the heart of dickhead empire people that deserve to get fucking killed they get shot right between
Starting point is 00:10:28 the eyes that was so fucking badass he even shot his co-pilot when his co-pilot was like uh i'm not involved in this i don't know what's going on he was like fuck this guy yo i identify with that dude big time i'd be like yo fuck him like kill these kill this asshole let's fucking go like let's just trade my life for whatever you have to do. I can get you what you need. You need Muff Gideon? I'll give you Muff Gideon on a fucking plate right now. That guy's seen a Star Wars movie or two because he was like, alright, that guy's wearing
Starting point is 00:10:54 Mandalorian armor. I'm wearing a fucking Amelia Earhart hat. I think I know who's going to win this fight. The Barstool Sports app would have had him as plus 10,000. The slave one and the Imperial The Barstool Sports app would have had him as plus 10,000 to fucking win that fight. The Slave I and the Imperial Shuttle both arrive on this unidentified planet. We see Bo-Katan's ship in the background.
Starting point is 00:11:13 So that was kind of one of those nods where if you are a Clone Wars fan, you're like, oh, we're going to visit Bo-Katan. You get it a minute early. And if you're a casual viewer, you see them in the bar. She's also with Casca Reeves who is sasha banks she's not with the other one i assume he was watching the ship they stole that big ship the freighter or whatever in their episode i assume he was watching that boba fett and the mandalorian both walk over to bo katan and casca reeve and this was just such a cool shot of them walking
Starting point is 00:11:39 into the bar together where you're like oh shit this is a fucking team brothers of destruction they walk up to Bo-Katan and they say hey Moff Gideon's got the kid we need to go find him we need your help you know we know that you want the dark saber they've got this big ship maybe it could help you in your quest to retake Mandalore and she says there's no way you're going to be able to find Moff Gideon there's just no way they say well you're wrong because we found him Boba Fett I think maybe said that and then kaskarif says oh i didn't know that sidekicks were allowed to talk and they get into a little back and forth here because bo katan realizes boba fett's voice is the voice of a clone and he is not a true mandalorian he tries to explain hey this was my father's armor it's got to be just a pain
Starting point is 00:12:20 in the ass for him to explain that every time it's like when i say that i'm a washington football team fan and people were like wait how it's like oh it's a whole fucking thing it's my dad and he was raised the third way it was a whole thing they get into a fight koskar reeve throws a tornado ddt on boba fett assisted with a fucking jet pack that i marked out for they say stop it if we were fighting this hard against the imperials they never would have took mandalore we'll aid you in this as long as you aid us in our quest to retake Mandalore. It was a eye for an eye thing, but Mando's like, listen, the child is my only priority. I don't care. Whatever it takes, I'll do it. It's fucking about that. Mando, like, he has to use it the rest of his life. Like,
Starting point is 00:12:58 even without the child, he's like, listen, the child has a fever. You guys have to help me out right now. All right, whatever you need. Like, I don't know, Mando. Like, listen, the child, you know, he's really sad. He wants to find his favorite ball. All right, Mando, whatever you need. Like, we'll get a fucking army at your side. It's craziness how that always works out for him. As soon as I saw it, so, like, we didn't know we were starting with the episode, obviously.
Starting point is 00:13:18 I see the rescue as a title. I'm like, all right, we're going. Like, this isn't good. We're at least trying to get the fucking, it didn't say the rescue attempt. So, I felt good about it right off the jump. I didn't know anything about Bo-Katan's ship. Pretty sweet.
Starting point is 00:13:29 I, like, did a rewatch, and I was like, oh, shit, that's probably it. So I definitely missed that. I just absolutely love the sad – like, having a kid gets you out of so many stuff, and you can kind of, like, cut the line and play. For all the shit it gives you, all the tough parts of raising a kid, there are a few good things, and I like that mando's been using it boba and mando going in together there's just plenty of other teams out there in the star wars universe throughout the
Starting point is 00:13:53 timelines that's more badass luke and vader going somewhere they're like we'll do our sports reference early sean kemp and gary payton nba jam cool as shit could do some damage but still not like the peak of the peak. But like, those are probably the two guys, if you were to choose a team, that's the cool team you're being right there. That was just so cool. You saw the whole bar, the way they turned when they walked in, like, oh shit, who are these guys? There were even Mandos on the bar, but they were still like, oh fuck. Oh fuck, exactly. And Boba in that clean armor. I love that clean armor. I understand the dirty Boba back in the day had its own charm to it,
Starting point is 00:14:25 but I just love like a clean Boba Fett. I'm a big fan of it. Mando's armor is so clean as well. The Star Wars lingo, I got lost in it. I think they almost overdid it. I'm like, all right, guys, the skank and the scud pie or something like that. I'm like, what the fuck is going on? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Like, did you, were you fucking like laughing along with it? Like, I know fucking, you know, laugh it up. What's the laugh it up? Fuzzball or whatever yeah like i know some of that they did the pot calling the kettle black they did that in star wars and then they like followed up with one right away afterwards and i was like oh all right all right yeah i was with you i was like i'm getting hit in the face with star wars jokes right now and i don't know how to take it yeah it was a lot and i felt i definitely felt lost and that was before i even
Starting point is 00:15:03 realized i didn't even notice Bo-Katan's ship. But I think it's one of those things that, I don't know, it might have just been nonsense anyway. They've been doing that all series, right? Yeah, the Dank Farrakhan. Dank Farrakhan, yeah, that's what it is. The DDT, I marked out for two because they used the jetpacks. And then dueling flamethrowers.
Starting point is 00:15:19 These fucking idiots are using their flamethrowers. And guess what? They did nothing again. The flamethrowers are the worst part of the goddamn mandalorian intimidation more than anything yeah so listen mando you're off the hook it's not you it's the flamethrower it's that's the fucking third and 18 run halfback draw that goes fucking nowhere every single time we know it's coming and it never does anything so i officially take back all my hatred on the flamethrower it's just a shit piece of the uh equipment it's like a standard it's like the car sales was like and you have automatic windows like
Starting point is 00:15:47 yeah dude everyone is fucking automatic yeah everyone has a flamethrower who cares it sucks there was one line in this that i will point out in this whole exchange that like kind of irked me because it's like god damn it the audience didn't need a reminder of that and it was when they say it could cut through almost anything when talking about the dark saber and then it cuts to a dramatic shot of bokatan and she goes it cannot cut through pure beskar it's like well yeah we fucking knew that there's a whole ahsoka episode we saw the fight with the spear we saw her try to attack mando so when they did that it's like oh we didn't need that reminder you don't need to hit us over the head with that kind of stuff i'm 100% with you i didn't like it as soon as it was said i that's why i skipped
Starting point is 00:16:25 the um previous seance because the previous seance kind of tell you what's going on i'm like all right so now we're gonna have the dark saber hitting some pure best card that's clearly how is it gonna happen i don't know but that was kind of like it just hung out there and whatever who cares in the grand scheme of things but i'm with you on that 100 so they concoct this plan they go back onto the slave one and dr pershing is actually helping them out quite a bit he doesn't seem to be super imperial uh friendly he seems to just be like hey i'm a cloning guy i like this baby he was you know in the first season even making sure that the baby didn't get harmed so he helps them out he kind of tells them this is where the dark troopers are this is where baby grow is getting held this is where moff gideon will be in the cockpit or the control room whatever bo katan says in the midst of this listen i don't care what
Starting point is 00:17:10 happens to him as long as he surrenders to me this is a big tease for later on in the episode and another one of those perfect things that cartoon fans got and live action fans didn't need to get because they were they were gonna get to it later on but it's just the perfect little tease that makes us go oh fuck is she like really determined to get that surrender yes she was so they concoct this amazing plan which i've never seen anything like this in star wars before and i really loved it where they say we're gonna have you guys piloting this imperial shuttle we'll have boba fett behind us and we'll make it look like we're being attacked and we're imperials and we need an emergency landing on Moff Gideon's ship so they start to do it Boba Fett is just missing them by
Starting point is 00:17:50 an inch and he's like don't worry about it he's like I'm gonna make sure I miss they send a call out to Moff Gideon on the ship a distress call where they're like oh my god we're being attacked we need emergency landing right now Moff Gideon I feel like he knew some shenanigans were going on immediately the second they started doing this because he was kind of, an eyebrow went up. The person on the Imperial shuttle with him was like, listen, we're not going to grant you this landing. Just stay clear of the deploying squad. We'll send some TIE fighters out. They do this. Bo-Katan goes, I don't give a fuck what you're doing.'re landing this thing she folds up the wings she flies it in there a very han solo-esque move i felt well in solo you know when he kept doing that thing where he would send ships on their side so he'd get through something very narrowly
Starting point is 00:18:34 it reminded me of that boba fett blows up the tie fighters in about a second when they make it in there and light speeds out of there it wasn't even a challenge for him at all and as soon as we got onto moff gideon's cruiser more than even before this felt like a fucking star wars movie i felt like i was watching a movie for real yeah i so i noticed this uh i was thinking the same exact thing and the only thing missing was like the john williams score and i liked it doesn't have it because it shouldn't feel like a star wars movie right like i love that the action felt like it but if they did the score it's like by leaving it out it's like all right we're watching a tv show and obviously without the crazy budget and all that shit for it but like the like that's the exact kind of thing that you you'd be getting like an empire vibe and stuff like that
Starting point is 00:19:16 the slave one's just so fucking cool i'm so happy we got to see it boba was the one using it and it was so awesome just seeing even when it docked and it just like yeah they had like that overhead shot of it was so fucking like awe-inspiring and i just again that doctor just being like yeah i'll tell you everything guys i'm a fucking doctor i'm an imperial i'm sure like all the other evil people that were like under the military branches and stuff fucking they were the first to start singing and you know pointing the finger at everybody so i like how he just was like yeah i'll take you right to my fucking throat the this was another cool part about star wars we got to see like underneath the hood of like how a tie fighter is launched i thought that shit was so fucking cool i never saw that before right and it's like oh shit like that's how they do it they
Starting point is 00:19:58 always seem so effortless how there's always a hundred of them just flying out and it does seem like there's more of a process to it i i wonder now this is my question do you think if you're a tie fighter pilot like listen from you know your shifts eight to eight you have to basically sit in that cockpit because i feel like you can't be just like walking around and then run to the tie fighter because these guys are always just ready to go with the drop of a hat i feel like you have to either be like in that launching station and you're like in like the lunch spot space or whatever you just have to be there like you can't just be like hanging in your room and be like yo we need you now like these guys are always just ready to go on the drop of a hat and i hate the empire but i respect the shit of
Starting point is 00:20:33 the the imperial type fighter fighters for always being there right i think you're right about that and i even have the cool helmets too right like the black helmets with the nozzles coming out of it and stuff i thought it looked like you know those vending machines where like the little thing will go grab your soda and then it'll like it looked like that to me another thing about the slave one that you mentioned i talked to our guy frank the tank in the office on friday and actually at the end of this podcast we're not gonna have outro music like normal i have clips from frank the tank jeff ken jack their thoughts on the season the finale is a whole joey molinar. So I'll throw it over to them. We'll get thoughts from all of HQ at the end. That'll be fun. But I talked to Frank the Tank and he said, thank God that we never saw
Starting point is 00:21:13 anything like that out of the Slave I in the original trilogy, because people would have thought the Millennium Falcon was a real piece of junk because the Slave I would have just stole the show. That's actually a great point. Yeah. Like we love the Falcon for all it's like shortcomings, but when you see everyone really just dusting it and everything else that it does that frank frank underrated dire stars with star wars fan we have some big like portnoy frank the tank large like some people you would never think are all star wars people and like you said we're being united now through all this so i'm excited to see what comes out of this uh that plan was awesome too like the
Starting point is 00:21:45 fact that he's chasing it in i guess in shows too but in movies especially when you just see a plan that is something you've never seen before or thought of that was all like we've seen we've seen people dress up as stormtroopers a thousand times right we said that last exactly it was so nice to see something like this um and they're like you know open the gates and the empire being the one kind of who's scuffling as someone is chasing him uh bolkatan as my note on her here was certified bad bitch don't know else i really put it other than that and i feel bad about this now i wrote boba leaving is sus and i feel bad after we saw everything's gone out but i was like i felt i thought he was going to come back and it was going to kind of lead to you know a bad ending so i'm very happy i was wrong about that so hand up listen hand up on the whole season this is an apology from my mom's basement boba
Starting point is 00:22:30 you are not sus you helped us out the entire way so i mean we're sorry we thought you were real sus the whole time yeah we're we're dicks we are dicks you're not sus we're dicks we're dicks the boarding party arrives on this ship mando kind of stays back for a little bit because the plan is they're going to cause a big distraction they're going to make it to moff gideon and he's just going to slip in grab baby yoda slide out of there the boarding party is bocatan fennec shand caradune and casca reese something that they did not make a big deal out of in this episode at all and i love that they didn't make a big deal out of it is that the entire mandalorian boarding party were female. It wasn't like, and listen, I like the scene in Endgame
Starting point is 00:23:09 where all the females get together, you know, make Clem cry thinking about his daughter. It's beautiful, but it's like a very girl power. They didn't do the girl power thing, but it fucking was maybe the best example of girl power I've ever seen in a show like this. Four badass female characters protecting the male character, Mandalorian, going after another male character, Moff Gideon. It's something that they
Starting point is 00:23:29 didn't beat you over the head with, but it's like, yeah, this is how to make young girls really look up to some characters. Yeah, I put in my notes here, the chicks are badass, and I hadn't even, I didn't even notice it at first that it was all the girls, and again, the end game scene is good. It does seem like preposterously crazy that group of people all ended up together and that's the only part and i have no problem with it because again i was watching this with sienna and i looked at her and i thought she likes to be people that she identifies with and she identifies with the girls and she she loves iron man she loves spider-man she loves fucking baby yoda she loves all these people but like at the same point having someone
Starting point is 00:24:01 like caradune or mandalorians who are badass, like Bo-Katan and Ahsoka, obviously, it is cool that they get to experience that too. And the good thing is I didn't realize at first. I was like, oh, they're like – Me either. Those are all girls. And I was like, oh, shit. Those are all girls. And like Boba's gone and I'm like doing the math in my head because, again, it's like 6 in the morning and my brain is still getting going.
Starting point is 00:24:20 I was like, oh, that was cool. And they're all wearing helmets anyway. Yeah, exactly. And they're all wearing helmets too. So it was definitely very cool um i like the caradunes her gun jam and she had like fix it and shit like that it was it was the little things like that and that they had the bridge scene where they take the the the rockets but i liked how they had the shield that goes into space you saw the stormtroopers go down i thought that was all visually very well done taking so cool all the coolness of space and really using it to your advantage even just that shot where they walk
Starting point is 00:24:49 across the bridge and they show you that shot of space below makes you go oh shit like there's a little tense energy because it's like oh we could fall right into space right here and they had a great plan there where both mandalorians went under the bridge right and they came up when the stormtroopers thought they were ambushing caradune and fennec fennec by the way we've talked about her before she was the original voice of mulan she's gonna be in the bad batch i didn't realize something about her she's pushing 60 bro she's 57 years old in real life listen i know you're not supposed to talk about the age of a woman and stuff but like she looks fucking tremendous for almost 60 are you kidding me i didn't think i thought maybe she was in her 40s you do anything at that level of the eight to 60 male woman,
Starting point is 00:25:28 fucking whatever species baby grow is. I mean, he's 50, which is pretty, he's a fucking baby. He can't do shit right now. Right. It's, it's impressive. And it's, it's, it's great. I saw that online. I was like, are you fucking kidding me? 57 years old, Fennec Shand. Oh man. I, the age has fucked me up now. You know what I mean? And we're getting to the point now where it's like, I mean, we see the blogs about like J-Lo's 50 and this person's 60. And it really does. I mean, fucking Tom Brady's like 44 and he's still playing.
Starting point is 00:25:53 It's one of those things where ages really fucks you up. I guess we're getting to the point where numbers really are defined. I'm trying to hold on to that, Rob, because I'm an old man. And I want to believe that I'm not as old as it was this age was when I was a kid. Because I know you guys all look at me like, look not as old as this age was when I was a kid. Because I know you guys all look at me like, look at that old fucking idiot. No, you got the force. I think you got some Medicareans.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Listen, they age you well. So this boarding party clears out a bunch of stormtroopers everywhere. These stormtroopers, really as useless as ever. On the bridge, the cargo hold on their way to the bridge. And while this is going on, the dark troopers are powering up. And this is a fucking scary scene. Every time they cut to the dark troopers i was like oh fuck you got to be kidding me these things are coming after us the nozzles are bursting out their eyes look like zerg from toy story i was scared and then mando eventually gets to their holding bay and as they're coming out he just closes the fucking doors he's like close the door i love it he was like no no like him freaking
Starting point is 00:26:46 out about the stormtroopers let you know how are the um dark troopers let you know how bad they are because he doesn't usually like start screaming but he knew how bad those those guys were and that was without really dealing with them at all right like he hadn't really dealt with them you saw them take baby girl that was it you said it too and i was trying to figure out how to like i don't know how to say it on this like listen guys the stormtroopers stink we have to figure out another way to have henchmen that aren't i've seen enough stormtroopers die i would like for us to start killing other kind of things at this point you know what my justification is i was talking to trent about it because we were watching this it was like my third time watching it his first and he's like these stormtroopers i
Starting point is 00:27:21 mean their armor doesn't work they don't work like what's the point and i was like my concept is that the empire needed so many that they were literally putting anyone in these suits they were mass manufacturing armor that they knew was shit they didn't care they were just like we need bodies in them you off the street you want to be a stormtrooper let's go you're a stormtrooper that's my that's my headcanon oh and i know i'm fine with it i i've done the same thing i I'm like, they're just like, you're making copies of copies of copies too. So it's not like you're using like, these are all obviously these pure, at least clones of Bova Django Fett, right? It's like you're doing the, you do it with paper, right?
Starting point is 00:27:55 And it's like, these things are barely even a human at this point. They're functional, just morons. And I'm fine with it. It's just like, at some point I see you can throw 100,000 triptychs. I'm like, I could's just like at some point i see you can throw a hundred thousand troopers i'm like i i could take him out at this point so it's like i next season that's just my note and i i i mean john fowler because the fucking dark troopers are fucking scary clem yeah and i see this i don't like those dark troopers they fucking are just mean he fucking when he throws those fingers in a gas i was like i know we get the fingers and he starts getting and then
Starting point is 00:28:24 he throws that one punch that just sends mando into the wall it's like oh no and then we get this fight scene incredible fight scene because the entire time you're like what is going to work literally nothing is working i didn't know with the whistling birds will the firework no nothing dark troopers literally one gets out of this whole dig bay it starts punching mando into this wall and it's punching the beskar helmet and literally they're showing us mando is going to go through this wall before his armor is going to burst it was awesome he lights this guy on fire it doesn't matter once again fire fucking useless against these guys he uses the whistling birds against him nothing i don't know if they're made out of a little beskar or what i know the empire purged all that beskar
Starting point is 00:29:04 from mandalore right and eventually he's like fuck nothing's working last resort pulls out that best car spear throws it right through the head right through that neck hole kind of pops the head off like it's a rock'em sock'em robot that was the one thing that worked runs over to the cargo bay then and just releases them at this space i bought into this 100 maybe i'm an idiot maybe i'm a mark for this but i was like huh that was easy dark troopers gone i can't believe there was even that many of them they came right back at the end i didn't think they were going to come back at the end and when they did i was like oh i'm such an idiot for not realizing that they were going to come back
Starting point is 00:29:35 but as soon as he did that i was like oh sigh of relief we fucking got that over with i do feel like they've done with both where it's like sometimes it is just this easy fix and then it all it all works out and then but i mean it wasn't a finale i feel like that was that that's why it kind of like spun on us mando just getting his fucking face beating it was like watching the rock just hit mcfoley with chairs over and over and i'm like he's still up he's still going the armor the armor this wasn't its finest moment but this was its second finest moment. It fucking, that got a lot of MVP votes. It's already had it, had its run. And this wasn't the Super Bowl winning drive for it,
Starting point is 00:30:11 but this was the next thing. This got us in position. What a fucking performance by that armor. No dents either. Like we saw Boba, you know, he's got that big dent on his helmet. It didn't even put a little scratch on that helmet. It's the purest fucking best car I've ever seen in my life.'s a fake thing i didn't know existed a year ago but it's the greatest fucking best car in the universe i was fucking like when you just see your guy just get
Starting point is 00:30:33 his ass kicked and he's just not backing down it just does i mean that's kind of what stone cold made a career of that too right when he refused to tap out of the bret hart and i was proud of my guy mando he gets the mandalorian back I put it back in his name. Awesome fucking moment there. I will say this. I'm not too scared. The Dark Troopers or whatever. Are they the Dark Troopers? They just feel like rock-em-sock-em robots right now. That's all they
Starting point is 00:30:56 fucking do is punch. What else do you do, robots? What the fuck? I think they had the guns, but I don't remember. They probably did shoot him. They probably had Luke at the end, but I don't recall them. It was all the punching, even when they wanted to get the doors open. They just started fucking boom, boom, boom, boom. So the boarding party goes off to the bridge.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Gideon is nowhere to be found, and I think as viewers we put it together, oh, no, we're about to get Gideon versus Mando. Mando opens the holding bay where Yodaoda is baby yo little grogu he's in his handcuffs still and moff gideon's got this fucking saber to his head he's kind of grazing it by his hair i thought baby yoda's hair was going to start like frizzling off immediately you know this is like you sit up straight you go oh fuck here we go here we go here we go moff gideon says i know that your whistling birds are gone I know that you're with Bo-Katan I know that you're probably here for the dark saber I know
Starting point is 00:31:50 that you're here for the kid I've got everything I need from him I've got his blood Mando says listen I don't fucking want the dark saber I don't give a fuck about the dark saber I know it's got the Mandalore that what I don't give a fuck it's nothing to me I want the kid he goes all right I see your bond with him I've got what I need from him his blood. It's nothing to me. I want the kid. And he goes, all right, I see your bond with him. I've got what I need from him, his blood. His blood is going to give us something that will restore the empire. It will bring peace to the galaxy, whatever. Hinting at, we're trying to make the fucking emperor come back.
Starting point is 00:32:18 And he says, just take him on the condition that you don't want the dark saber, and we'll go our separate ways. Mando's like, all right, a fucking great deal, man. I man i love this you do something for me i'll do something for you the audience i think we know what's going on i mando obviously doesn't realize that he's about to get fucking tricked it's his first double crossing or something moff gideon fucking slings around he hits him in the jet pack at first and then he just starts fucking hacking away. Like, his fighting style was like, I'm going to hit you as hard as I motherfucking can with this darksaber. And I loved seeing it because the only thing I had heard about the darksaber behind the scenes-wise leading into the season was that Giancarlo Esposito broke seven of them on set trying to film a scene with it because he was too aggressive with it.
Starting point is 00:33:02 And as soon as I saw this, I was like like i can absolutely see how he broke those things because he was mando kind of dodges a bunch of these with his beskar armor with the wrist gauntlets a lot it was wonder woman-esque they battle outside of the prison and then he fucking pulls the spear out and this heroic shot they had shout out to peyton reed the director of the episode the shot he had kind of over Moff Gideon's shoulder Mando pulls that spear out oh it was badass and we get a fight finally the spear versus the dark saber we see the dark saber is heating up the spear every time it clashes with it it's getting red and almost like smolted it was awesome Mando fucking kicks the spear at a great moment the thing's going through walls and then eventually he disarms him keeps him alive he puts the spear to his throat and he goes oh you're keeping me alive you're sparing my life this should be interesting he brings him to the
Starting point is 00:33:54 bridge one of the most underratedly badass shots of the episode is when the doors first open on the bridge and mando is standing there with an ignited darksaber and Grogu in his arms. Nobody's talking about that. But that was just, that made me cum. That was a sick entrance. Like, that's just a fucking winner, right? That's a fucking winner, winner chicken dinner. He's got Muff getting in the handcuffs, right? He looks all pathetic. He's like kicking him in the ass.
Starting point is 00:34:18 He's like, get in there. You're like looking at it. I didn't even actually see how long the episode was because I wanted to be surprised, but I'm feeling like this feels a little too good to be true right now and i mean we'll get to what happens how the fuck does muff gideon know everything though like how does he know he's otherwise like does he have a fucking like security camera because he didn't look like he had a security camera in there like how do you know everything muff getting you're not like i don't think he's force sensitive right so i don't know how the fuck he knew like you could say oh i know
Starting point is 00:34:43 you're here with bulk of tenor that makes sense and you know this and that but the fact he knew like everything but then he doesn't know that a dark saber doesn't do shit the best car when it's the fucking weapon of the people that use best car good point i didn't think about that i am very okay listen armor mvp locked up that that scene locked up armor is the mvp of the season of maybe the fucking series right now, to be honest with you. The Jetpacks had their moment with the little fight in the bridge scene with the girls, but Armour, I mean, I think it's going to be unanimous MVP. I think
Starting point is 00:35:13 it's a Patrick Mahomes kind of season. We got the awards show next Monday, by the way. For all that don't know, we're going to do next Monday, we're going to do Mandalorian Season 2 Awards Show. We're going to get some guests on. We're going to give out awards. It'll be a very fun time. It'll be fun. This might come off intense here, and I might be speaking out of pocket. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Moff Gideon's a fraud. Moff Gideon is a fraud. You were promised a baggage. You throw Gus Fring as the lead villain, and you give me a guy that's using the Darksaber on a fucking best car, Gus Fring would wipe the floor with moth gideon using his fucking cartel connections and his like chicken restaurant and you know the money from owning a meth empire he would mop the floor moth gideon is just like the figurehead of
Starting point is 00:35:56 an of a dying empire i don't know man i'm out of moth gideon my the way i feel about moth gideon during the finale of last season which again he again, he lost, but seeing him with that Darksaber, so the way I feel about him now, and the thing about him, he's more of a villain like a – he's like a Ric Flair villain. He's the one who throws dirt in your face. He cheats. He'd be a perfect – if Bobby Heenan was his manager, he'd be unstoppable. However, like, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:36:20 I think Moff Gideon – I hate to use the F word, but he's kind of like a fraud right now in my eyes. I'm'm not a big muff gideon guy i don't hate that take listen if you're gonna if you're gonna shit on anyone shit on the empire that's what i said mando brings muff gideon in this fucking fraud and he throws him on his knees and bo katan goes what happened car doing is thrilled she goes he brought him in alive that's what happened the new republic's gonna have to double the bounty for him right now muff gideff Gideon laughs and he goes, oh, that's not what she's talking about. She's talking about that. He points to the Darksaber and we get the explanation that the Darksaber can only be won via battle. It has to be surrendered
Starting point is 00:36:59 to someone via battle. The Mandalorian now lays claim to the darksaber and the throne of mandalore and he cannot just give it to boca tan he says that the sword has no power the story is what carries its power i loved this personally because it was just they throws that tension in the bridge where it's like mando's like just take it and she's like nope he's right i can't take it she had that look on her face like do i want to fucking shoot you for this thing right now do i want to fight you for this thing some cartoon fans took issue with this because in the cartoons bo katan when she gets the dark saber for the first time it is handed to her quite literally she doesn't win it in battle but there's differences there is because when it was handed to her nobody had it it was somebody found it literally quite literally found it was like
Starting point is 00:37:41 i want to give this to you and she said i can't accept it. And all of Mandalore like got on their knees and were like, no, it's yours. It's rightfully yours. I think this time around, she's like, I lost it in battle and now I need to win it back because I think she probably feels responsible for the purge happening, but it threw a wrench at things for live action. We thought, Oh fuck. She wants the dark saber. Now what is going on? And just as tension is starting to build we see we got life forms coming up board actually no life forms just bodies what are these bodies
Starting point is 00:38:12 all of the dark troopers the entire fleet moff gideon's like you had trouble with one let's see how you do against an entire fleet they line up against the door i feel like we all knew at this point someone's coming to save us we know we're getting out of this somehow but who is it going to be at this point clem what was running through your mind i was like these guys kind of are just rock them sock and robots but it feels like these even this whole crew together kind of then they're they're stuck in the dead end of the ship there's no way out right so it's like there's gonna i had no fucking clue how we were gonna guys i thought maybe boba was gonna come back maybe help us double cross us again i feel bad about those
Starting point is 00:38:48 thoughts that they went through my mind but they did i'm gonna be honest with you i was more concerned about like the the um the drama that was with the tension between bo katan and who the the woman who played bo katan she the way she wore those emotions on her face she was like feeling all fucking satisfied and then it was like conflicted immediately and it's like fuck we have a problem now you know and like not only does she have to like figure out how to get the darksaber but like she used to beat a mandalorian in combat and it was i thought she did an awesome job whoever i don't know who that is katie shackoff her name is shout out to katie shackoff fucking yeah that was cool my first thought was like fucking kevin nash finger of death fucking hit me fall on the ground. You got the death. Like, Oh, you got it.
Starting point is 00:39:26 You, you won the dark saber and a fucking, a battle they'll be talking about for eons. Right? Like that's, that's what I'm thinking. Like we can fix these problems. I don't understand why it was so hard. But like, like Moff Giddens said, it's about the story and all that kind of shit. And I guess it makes sense. Like, I didn't know that it was vacated. The it's that's like the vacated title we're just gonna do a rest of the podcast here and you can get it just given to you whereas you know you're the number one contender whereas if like someone owns it and not only that but defeated a guy like moth gideon who
Starting point is 00:39:56 is a fraud if we're being honest and if moth gideon beat her for it if it was like one-to-one where it's like he straight up beat her in combat i could see how she's like i can't just fucking take it like i was how did he get it because's like he straight up beat her in combat, I could see how she's like, I can't just fucking take it. Like I was. How did he get it? Cause he stinks. He's a fraud. How did he get the fucking dark city?
Starting point is 00:40:10 Did he buy it on eBay? I don't understand. Had to be a really good plan. Yeah. A swindle. That's the only thing. It might've been a swindle. It wasn't anything like well done.
Starting point is 00:40:18 He did it Walter White style. He used his brain. He didn't use his brawn. That's the only thing I could think of again. Cause like he has the empire, empire, like the way he has all those like troops and typhoid and everyone like storm troopers just blowing up at the end of season uh one that moff gideon is some badass shit this moff gideon he's a swindler so i don't know whatever he did again the platoon of dark troopers
Starting point is 00:40:40 i'm just like i was like again i don't i'm like i'm not scared of these things i'm like they're gonna be a pain in the ass i don't know how the hell we're gonna do it just a bunch of rock'em sock'em robots at the very least that are you know killing with beskar spears that only goes so far so i was concerned and then came the moment the moment beep beep beep beep what is it it's one x-wing and car dude says one x-wing yeah we're saved. Clem, I knew. I knew at this moment. I whipped my phone out at four in the morning. I hit record. I got my whole reaction to the final 10 minutes go on my Twitter, if you haven't seen it. I know people like those things. So I said, I'm going to record my reaction because I think I know what's about to happen.
Starting point is 00:41:17 The X-Wing comes in and shout out to Ludwig. Ludwig Goranson on the music. It was pitch perfect from this moment on. The whole finale, the music was good, but from this moment on, the music, the way it built up to this moment, oh my God, I have chills just talking about it. We haven't even started talking about it, and I have chills. We see a hooded figure walking from the back on security cameras, and just from the way he was walking, it was confirmation for me. I was like, that's fucking Return of the Jedi walking walking into jabba's palace luke skywalker we see some lightsaber action going on slaying these things up on the security cams everyone in the room is like holy fuck is that a jedi even boca tans like a
Starting point is 00:41:56 fucking jedi she's worked with anakin before so it's like i don't you know she knows his dad starts slaying his way through and then we finally get the shot of not the security camera angle, but the real angle of in the room, what's going on? A green lightsaber, a gloved hand. It's fucking Luke Skywalker, Clem. We don't see his face yet. He slays these things up. He eventually gets on an elevator. The elevator dings open, and it is straight up Darth Vader at a Rogue One.
Starting point is 00:42:22 They give Luke his masterwalker moment where he goes through this hallway he even does a darth vader-esque move where he pulls one of the dark troopers into him as he like slices him he fucking crushes one at the end we saw you know nothing that the mandalorian was given this was even throwing a dent or scratching his armor luke skywalker fucking crushes it right in his hand and then the doors open mando says open the doors they're like are you fucking crazy this guy's gonna murder us i'm serious open the doors out through the fog we see the green lightsaber he opens the hood it's mark hamill it's luke skywalker i couldn't believe it we see the lone x-wing come in and i'm like i'm like all
Starting point is 00:43:03 right we're gonna have a fleet coming and then i'm like oh wait or we have just one and my i thought two guys i'm like either we got luke or i thought the mace windu theory which we didn't love we've talked about it a bunch right and i was like please don't be mace windu because that it just kill it like kills deaths for lack of a better term in star wars we've already saw with the emperor Emperor. We've seen it happen with fucking Boba Fett. People just have to die at some point and stay dead. I was so happy it was Luke Skywalker because of that. Plus, we get Prime Luke. Hopefully, we're going to see Prime Luke
Starting point is 00:43:33 with the peak of his powers at some point along the way with whatever series we're going to have. I also loved that before we got that, it was on the security camera so we can't see the color lightsaber. I absolutely loved how they did that. So they kept you guessing to the very last moment i was like maybe it could be uh someone i don't even know about from the clone wars right it could be anything i don't know what the fuck's going on and when i saw the green lightsaber and my my head immediately went
Starting point is 00:43:56 to the hand too with the gloved hand and i was like that's my guy luke we're fucking going we're bringing balance to luke he's not just some crazy old guy that's throwing lightsabers around and drinking fucking blue milk it's fucking post jedi just killed my fucking daddy by mistake i fucking have all this shit going through me i'm fucking shit up the the rogue one parallels with vader was fucking perfect baby yo's pressing on the glass he's going at my guy luke i only think that could have stopped it, which would have been like a little bit of pandering, would have been if he takes the fucking hood off and goes to little girl, I'm Luke Skywalker. I'm here to rescue you. That would have been fucking great. But this is the thing. Now we've talked about this basically since the Mandalorian started. We were very much like, let's just explore another part of Star Wars. Let's not always go back to
Starting point is 00:44:42 the Skywalker trilogy and stuff like that now one I think we started saying that before Rise of Skywalker came and kind of like could have put on the um sequel trilogy whether you like it hate it in the middle whatever this feels like is medicine for the last three years or whatever it's been of Star Wars fans Civil War or whatever the fuck's been going on this we're we're fixing i don't even want to say fix i don't want to trigger people that like them but it just feels like this is how we're it's medicine for the star wars i think fix is okay from someone that loves the representation of luke skywalker in the last jedi and i know that just me saying that sentence will
Starting point is 00:45:20 trigger people listening to this podcast but as someone that loves it and people will roll their eyes about this but i love the way his like depression is handled in that as someone that's so fucking depressed i've never related to luke skywalker more than i did in the last jedi here you're showing us that he had time as this master luke skywalker it wasn't like immediately after return of the jedi he didn't get depressed it was 30 years later he became a you know a hermit as you say say, on Ahch-To. So we got to see Luke Skywalker at the height of his powers. This is how we've always wanted to see him.
Starting point is 00:45:50 We've talked, people have talked for 30 years, Clem, about him choking Gamorrean guards in Jabba's palace because they're like, that was so badass. We got to see him use so many powers. Are you kidding me? This was how we've always wanted to see him. So while the sequel trilogy took the route that they did and made luke the way they did i was okay with that because like i said i didn't want to see fucking mark hamill at the age he was during the last jedi do the scene
Starting point is 00:46:15 he did in the mandalorian that would look a little bit silly it reminds me of that movie red where it was like uh morgan freeman and helen hunt and there was all these old people doing like action scenes and i was just like oh my god this is cringeworthy it did fix it i would say i think that's a fair term to use because it just reminded everybody that luke had like 30 20 years of being a fucking badass and there was an element of him buying into his own hubris in this i saw people talking about it on the Star Wars Reddit, but there was definitely a cockiness that came with Luke Skywalker. It wasn't the, I'm Luke Skywalker.
Starting point is 00:46:51 I'm here to rescue you. He was like, are you a Jedi? Luke is like, I am. He's like, I need the little one. He's like, he doesn't want to come with you. And Luke doesn't care about the connection, the family. He's just like, listen, this Jedi, I got to train him. We're rebuilding the order here.
Starting point is 00:47:06 So I love that there was a little bit of cockiness. He didn't care that much about the human relationship. And it was just like, this is how Luke should be five years after Return of the Jedi. He should be the cockiest Jedi in the galaxy. He should be the one showing up to save Grogu here. It makes sense. We said stay away from Luke. But if you're really thinking about it in the story, it does make sense that he would show up.
Starting point is 00:47:23 If he's number one and Grogu was the one on the seeing stone reaching out, I could see Luke being the one to receive that message. So he says, Mandalorian says, are you a Jedi? He says, I am. And he says, I'm here for the little one. Grogu kind of peeks out by the chair. And he says, he doesn't want to go with you because he is a little hesitant at first. Grogu's very, I don't want to say goodbye to my dad here it's big daddy as we arrived i said it in season one where we're getting the big daddy ending here and he says no he just wants your permission
Starting point is 00:47:54 grogu was looking for permission to go along with luke so he picks him up and he says it's time to go buddy i promise i'll see you again and then oh man this is when i really realized that it was for real like grogu and mando are leaving each other i was so excited by luke that didn't register that he's coming to take grogu so i was like in my reaction video let's see i was like no no no no no no no please no please god no and he takes the helmet off talk about a tear jerker takes the helmet off pedro pascal but look on his face, the teary eyes he had. And Grogu reaches out and touches his face. I mean, in front of everybody in the room, in front of Luke Skywalker, this guy he's never met,
Starting point is 00:48:33 in front of Bo-Katan, in front of Fennec Shand, in front of Coscar Rees, in front of Cara Dune. He takes the helmet off. He doesn't care. He's like, this moment means more to me than anything in my entire life. We've seen this character transition through 16 chapters of this show. This fucking phenomenal show. From a bounty hunter that didn't care about his victims, just wanted some money. Didn't really care how the money came, whether it was Beskar, whether it was Kalamari, whatever.
Starting point is 00:48:57 To someone that cares so much about Grogu that he fucking takes the helmet off, doesn't care about the code, has to say goodbye, and he cries saying goodbye to him. Puts Grogu down. Grogu still doesn't care about the code, has to say goodbye, and he cries saying goodbye to him. Puts Grogu down. Grogu still doesn't really walk towards Luke. And then we got a moment that made me smile in the midst of sadness for you, Clem. Immediately, my mind went to you. We hear beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. R2-D2 rolls on into this fucking room, and I was like, oh, my God. If Clem wasn't losing it before, he's losing it now.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Oh, that's just when your favorite wrestler comes in. You know, that's when I see Mankind coming to the ring. It's like, oh, it sits there. And I think R2 is like the king of like, I don't know if he's known as the comedic relief. He's just like the happiness relief. And he just kind of like. We needed that. We needed the moment of like, we needed the deep breath of like, listen, don't.
Starting point is 00:49:44 Everything's going to be okay. That's what R2 said right there. Exactly. And I'm trying to think like R2, you know what R2's saying? He goes, ah, it's the kid of that asshole from the swamp that used to hit me with a stick. He's just like, I've got to do it. He looked excited. Like R2 looked excited.
Starting point is 00:49:57 So did Grogu. I was like, is he excited? Cause he's like this little Yoda guy. I haven't seen Yoda in forever. Or people have brought this up as well was r2 who saved grogu for the jedi temple is that why grogu recognized him goosebumps i got goosebumps i mean rogu kind of like waddled over right and he like that's when he felt comfortable that's when he felt safe did r2 save him oh you mean like the guy who always comes through the bob ory of the
Starting point is 00:50:21 star wars universe that always comes through with the biggest fucking moment of every fucking movie i mean i i am i that's like darth jar Jar i refuse to believe that anything other than r2d2 saving baby grogu is true that is everyone thought it was a jedi but why couldn't it be r2 and it's oh could he pop popped his top and little grogu goes climbs inside oh that's i mean that is the cutest moment you could sell r2 with baby grogu toys disney can make a million dollars on that so adorable him peeking out of the hood oh i want one now we have to figure out a way where we can make that without getting sued to death by disney because i need that now just and then we could sell and they and retire tomorrow um the other part of this too is like there's a little bit of heaviness because i forgot the jedis and the
Starting point is 00:51:04 mandalorians hate each other right and you just have this, there's a little bit of heaviness because I forgot the Jedis and the Mandalorians hate each other, right? And you just have this guy who's, now granted he's just like taking down all their enemies without trying, but it has to be a little scary. And there's definitely a symmetry again with Vader taking off his mask so Luke can see him, Mando taking off his mask so you can see him.
Starting point is 00:51:20 A hundred percent. Shout out to Luke for not being like, I'm going to take baby Yoda. But first I need you to come to this planet and kill a thousand people for me he's like no side quests I just give them to you and I don't have to do it like that was awesome shout out to Luke it did speaking to like you know side quests and video games like Luke did have a video game look to him I know a lot of people thought Sebastian Stan was going to be the guy which I mean I definitely thought that Sebastian
Starting point is 00:51:44 Stan must be like thank god for Disney buying Marvel and Star Wars I am going to be set for the rest of my life if they do that I think you have to like if you go with a Luke story you can't I mean I imagine they can't do it financially the CGI that it would take but it like I don't want to say it ruined the moment it definitely is like one of those things like with Rogue One awesome scene you see Kyra Fisher at the end and it's like kind of like we didn't get to see Luke at the peak of his powers just because of the way that time went like George didn't go with the sequel trilogy after Empire after Jedi and all that kind of stuff now we're gonna have to kind of go the next step it is what it is like you just live with it I'm sure they can fucking hatch it in
Starting point is 00:52:19 Sebastian Stan like they did with all the other shit during the special editions right if they want to do it and kind of go that style but i mean it was absolutely perfect for what it was um another interesting thing here boba not being on that shit imagine boba fett's like oh there's the dude that fucking launched a plan that got me fucking in by a sarlacc yeah that would have been that would have been that would have ruined the emotional moment there he would have been started shooting at luke it would have been a whole fucking thing there the thing about the cg my favorite line i saw about the cg they said the cgi doesn't have the power the story does i was like that's it man there it is that's the way to put it when he first took i noticed the the video game ness as well and i do think if you start bringing luke back
Starting point is 00:53:00 cast sebastian stan and you could you know do a little cgi on his face to make it look like he's sebastian stan or something but if you do bring him back you probably have to cast someone i thought when he first took the hood off it was tremendous like that was i said holy fuck out loud and then as he started to move his head you could see the shadows change and stuff but i love the cgi doesn't have the power the story does because i feel the same way about tarkin and rogue one leia and rogue one i love the leia moment at the power, the story does. Because I feel the same way about Tarkin in Rogue One, Leia in Rogue One. I love the Leia moment at the end of Rogue One, that hope. But you can tell it's, oh, it's someone out of a video game, sort of.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Even the flashback sequence in Rise of Skywalker, I know people didn't love. I thought it was cool seeing Leia and Luke battling on Endor with lightsaber. I also will say this, too. I don't want to offend you. I don't want to offend any Star Wars people when I say this. I don't think this is a hot take or anything crazy. Like, Mark Hamill was never like, oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:53:53 He was Luke Skywalker, 100%. But it's not like Mark Hamill transcended the role, right? Not like Harrison Ford and Han Solo. Exactly. You tell me someone else had to come in and do Han Solo, I wouldn't have believed it. But like Mark Hamill, he did the part. He was Luke Skywalker, but I'm fine with someone else taking over that role. I don't think he was like a straight up one of one. So I think like if Sebastian Stanislaw kind of plays that role where it's still a young Luke Skywalker, it's a different Luke Skywalker.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Like you said, this is a guy who basically saved the universe once by blowing up the Death Star, saved it again by outmaneuvering the Emperor and not turning to the dark side, saw his dad die. So he has basically I'm the most powerful being in the universe and also all the fucking daddy issues, family issues I have. It's a different character than it was back then. I think whoever it may be, Sebastian Stan, you just throw a fucking Mark Hamill, you know, someone that looks like him, another doppelganger in there.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Let him wear the hood a lot, you know. Exactly, yeah, go for that. I did see someone say too, like, another doppelganger in there. Let him wear the hood a lot, you know? Exactly, yeah. Go for that. I did see someone say, too, like, it would be awesome if he fucking makes Baby Grogu, sits on his back, piggyback style, and like, this is how I learned from you. Oh, that would be awesome, yeah. One more thing about the CG, one more note about it. I just want to say this to everybody.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Don't forget that Star Wars has always, since since 1977 been at the forefront of special effects visual effects and this technology even in the prequels which people shit on for looking too much like video games they were revolutionary for the special effects industry episodes one two and three i mean changed the entire way that people made special effects going forward ilm all that i never want star wars to stop pushing those boundaries. So even in the 70s, they could tell, oh, that probably didn't really happen there, or the speeder bike chase on Endor.
Starting point is 00:55:34 You can watch that and say, this doesn't look 100% legit, but we love it. I feel like as long as Star Wars keeps pushing those boundaries, I'm happy. It doesn't have to look perfect. I could tell that it's CG and it could make make me because like i said it made me go holy fuck like seeing mark hamill's young face in the mandalorian it blew my mind no it's a hundred percent fine this is the thing like yeah they all this shit is cg i mean the reason why star wars
Starting point is 00:56:00 became what it was is because people went to a movie theater and they saw this star destroyer go overhead and they said holy shit like and from literally the first moment you started watching even the way the crawl was i mean and i the name industrial light and magic is so fucking badass of a nickname too like our company name whatever you want to call it so like to get hung up just because it's you know instead of being spaceships and aliens and all these other things, it's now a human doing it. Like, I think we'll be all right, guys. Don't let that scene – you know, they got lucky with Vader. They could do that because he had – he could just wear a mask. You didn't have to know that that wasn't the original Vader or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:56:37 It was just cool to see. So don't let that be your hang-up. And listen, everything's going to be all right. R2-D2 is going to be involved in everything. It's going to be fine. If R2's there, everything going to be involved in everything. It's going to be fine. If R2's there, everything ends up okay in the end. That's the one thing we know. I think so as well.
Starting point is 00:56:50 So the final shot is R2, Luke, and Grogu in this elevator. And it cuts back to the Mandalorian. There's real Tyriad in that room. And the season is over. Really felt like it could have been a serious finale. I mean, they set so much up with the Darksaber that we know it's obviously not going to be. But this was a quest that we've been after since episode one.
Starting point is 00:57:10 What is the purpose of this child? We found out, oh, you got to bring it back to the Jedi. We found that out from the armor. And he brought him back. So I got so many questions in my DMs since the episode came out. But they were really three main ones. So I'm going to just stick with the three main questions we got. This one, I wrote down this one just specifically came from Andrew Cummings. He said, Hey, Bob, not sure when you're doing the last man to review, but here's my
Starting point is 00:57:32 question. Do you think we'll see any of Luke's training of baby grow clips or even its own show? Assuming a Jedi Academy would have to be a cartoon because CGI a young Mark Hamill must be super expensive. I really don't know. I've been getting so many questions about Grogu and his involvement in the show. Will we see Grogu in The Mandalorian anymore? Will we not? Will he be in the Ahsoka show? I have no idea. I think the most likely scenario in my mind is that Grogu will sort of be the common thread between all of the new shows. And by that, I mean, I could see the new, the Rangers of the New Republic is one of the shows, right? I could see them forming a partnership with the Jedi
Starting point is 00:58:12 and saying, hey, we'll aid in the protection of this baby. I could see the Ahsoka show, her going and visiting the new Jedi temple and seeing Luke. I could see the Mandalorian show. I could see him checking in on baby Gro. I could see them taking a time jump in the next season of The Mandalorian and them reuniting somehow. One thing, and here's the next question, which this is a two-parter.
Starting point is 00:58:34 So I say there's three questions. It's really one two-parter and another one. Knowing what we know, does this mean that Kylo Ren killed Grogu at the Jedi Temple? If so, he is cemented as the the baddest villain in rise of scott walker i think a hundred percent no i think there's no chance that they redeemed ben solo only for him to go back and make him a bad guy in retrospect and make him do something that people hate after he was redeemed we talked about this earlier like what if he goes off with luke what if kylo ren kills him I don't think we have to worry about that, especially considering he survived one Jedi temple attack before he could survive one again.
Starting point is 00:59:11 When it comes down to Luke and his own show, here's my theory, and I haven't seen this anywhere online. I haven't seen anyone bring this up. There's been rumors about a Rebels cartoon sequel for a long time done by Dave Filoni they brought Mark Hamill in to do the voice of Luke here they just sent him off with Luke Grogu they just sent him off with Luke here could that be the Rebel sequel if the Rebel sequel is taking place immediately after Return of the Jedi or five years after Return of the Jedi could we be seeing Luke training Grogu in an animated series I know that might make some people upset because they're like, I don't watch cartoons, Robbie. I just like the live action stuff.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Like our listener said here, CGI-ing Mark Hamill would be pretty fucking expensive to do for all that time. I think if you also do an animated thing, you can do Grogu in live action and animated. So as far as will we see Luke training Grogu, the answer is I don't know. I would assume we'll see a little bit. I think he's too much of a moneymaker to just shun away and say we'll never see Grogu ever again.
Starting point is 01:00:08 I think he's quite literally the future of the franchise. I think he'll survive for hundreds of years. I think we'll maybe get a trilogy of Rey and Grogu 20 years down the line. And as far as does Kylo Ren kill him, I would say 100% unequivocally no. Yeah, I think it'll be sprinkled in. And I didn't know if any of the shows that had been announced previously were, were something that could be like, Oh, well, this is actually the Luke and Grogu show. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:36 I don't think that's obviously the case. I do think you could sprinkle it in. Like kind of like we said with like big cats are a little baby grow. You got a big cat on pick central. You got big cat on. I mean, obviously part of my take, you got big cat on the yak and it's like you just have this fucking force of nature that just makes everything fucking great i just i still just i'm still just wrapping my head around we were like mandalorian is going to be its own little side quest it's going to be independent of the films it's going to do this and now it is the dna of the film it basically it's the dna of the fucking universe right now and i feel like baby grogan was gonna be a big part of that the asoka i forgot about
Starting point is 01:01:08 the asoka show that could be a hundred percent of if it's her and luke doing their own thing um and i would love to see her and luke meet that would be huge for me if i could see it's sebastian stan or if you want to do a short cg scene where it's asoka and luke talking to each other having a conversation you could even do it like uh if she talks to a hologram version of luke that might be the easiest way to do it but i would just mark out for that yeah and like hey i knew your dad when he was young oh tell me some stories before you murdered everyone and those younglings and everything it would be a good time and if yeah like kylo ren if if they really wanted to like if say the the third like say they they the movies in a different order and they really wanted to make you hate Kylo Ren, then I think you could make them do something awful to baby grow. I don't think it like, it doesn't make sense now.
Starting point is 01:01:54 It doesn't do anything for anyone really. It wouldn't be a shock if it happened because people are speculating that it happened. yeah right so it's like what is already headcanon though in my mind is that not he didn't kill him but he was at the jedi temple with him and the vision that luke saw in his head that made him think about killing kylo ren was him fucking giving grogu one to the chest like he did his own father oh yeah i definitely think something is going to be tied into the whole story the fucking misremembering thing where we saw the imagine luke thinking like this kid is going to kill baby yoda the star wars universe is going to be pissed at us again no way i gotta fucking kill him first fucking baby girl is like yo luke you're cool your family is a bunch of ass that's an
Starting point is 01:02:37 asshole when i was there and i had a fucking jump in qs r2 if r2d2 smuggles about again saves the day twice why not like yo we're running the play again where you jump in my little canister and i will you around as this fucking idiot other skywalker does you know oh no he's a kenobi i guess at that or um a solo at that point but nonetheless like it would be kind of funny if baby girl's like again and i can see baby grow even at the point where like where does he go during the sequel trilogy like maybe he's not ready or like he just is so force sensitive he's like yoda where like when when shit goes bad in the sith rise he just fucking blacks out and like just basically is like just boozing his face off
Starting point is 01:03:16 like some little corner of the galaxy like i want to know where little grogu was when he you know everything quote unquote went black i've had a few of those moments where my life went black i'll tell you it was fucking i wasn't doing good things to my body it was a lot of bad things i just love to see baby grow just hammering down shit at like the most icy cantina you're like shut the fuck up they ask for the bill and stuff like that so then we get a post-credit scene clem our first post-credit scene in the history of the mandalorian did you realize we were getting one right away because I clicked like pause on the thing and I saw we had five minutes left and I was like oh boy is this not over yet I saw some people missed it though they straight up missed it oh I'm so happy that because I missed the
Starting point is 01:03:56 Boba Fett thing earlier this year right so I'm so happy the only reason I stuck around and again I was tired I had to start my day I had to get aj to daycare the only reason i stuck around because i love the um post show art that they do yeah it's like all right we're going to do the credits and then we're going to do the art and then when i saw i go holy shit and by the way let's just say this right now before we even get to the next scene how off we all of us and this is a shout out to again fabio feloni everybody joey melon monary did his prediction blog we all made predictions all of us were on the same page too i read it it was like everyone's like empire cliffhanger sadness doesn't get baby yo back we got awesome baby yo's with luke you know the redemption of mando has come to fruition
Starting point is 01:04:37 and we were all way off and that's why this show works is because it's quote-unquote formulaic and it's not but like it slowly but surely advances to the point and then just massive fucking moments happen that tie up the entire universe like the formulaic episodes make for such great payoffs like the everything you just the little things they sprinkled in throughout the whole season the dark saber stuff the grogu stuff the luke stuff the seeing stone even going back to the armorer being like you have to find an ancient jedi like he finally saw him armorer by the way i would love to see her return in season three that would be a cool like oh they didn't use her the whole season if she came back fuck somebody up i'd be like oh hell yeah maybe she'd even help build a new razor crest or something i don't know
Starting point is 01:05:18 we get this post-credit scene though we get to see jabba's palace from the outside ralph mccorry like matte painting angle we see from the original trilogy Fennec Shand comes down the stairs fucks everybody up we see Bib Fortuna looking like a unit this guy is packed on the pounds in the five years since Jabba died he's eating all Jabba's food I guess Jabba had a big surplus he's like I'm fucking taking it all some two two uh really amazing details about this. Bib Fortuna was holding a staff that he never had in the movies that was originally included in his Kenner action figure. On the throne, there were two Rancors.
Starting point is 01:05:54 There were like Rancor heads on the two armrests, which is amazing. We get to see Fennec Shan come down. She takes everybody out except Bib, and then Boba comes down the stairs. And my favorite part about this entire post-credit scene was that they gave us the angle of luke coming down the stairs and you getting to see his shadow first oh it's just so great comes down bib fortune and tries to get on his good side right oh boba oh i haven't seen you in a while boba shoots him grabs him throws him off the throne takes the throne and we see the book of boba fett coming december 2021 amazing final shot him sitting on the throne fennec shand
Starting point is 01:06:33 like leaning up against the drink in the drink uh just so badass so boba fett so cool he's going to be a crime lord of tatooine now what more can can we ask for? This leads us to the third question, the big question everyone is saying. December 21, does this mean season three of The Mandalorian is the Book of Boba Fett? And that's why every episode is a chapter, because we just saw the Book of Din Djarin, and now we're seeing the Book of Boba Fett. Or is this a separate thing? I don't have the answer to this. By the time this episode comes out, there may be answers revealed because I figured there's always the Monday spoiler ban. Maybe Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni can be like, hey, we can clear things up now because you've all seen the
Starting point is 01:07:15 after credits scene. If I had to guess, I think it's two separate things. There's rumors about them filming separately. I think there's a lot to be done as far as the darksaber stuff with din jar and bo katan and all that boba fett the book of boba fett will be like a three to four episode miniseries that leads into the mandalorian i think it'll set the scene and my hope for it is that it does a time jump i think it'd be really cool if the book of boba fett begins december 1st 2021 whatever and we see like two years later and Boba Fett is full on running Tatooine like a crime Lord. And then we visit back with the Mandalorian Bo-Katan. Maybe he knows a little bit more about the dark saber.
Starting point is 01:07:54 Maybe they're a little farther along in their quest to retake Mandalore. I think it would also bring back, like if we pick up with them right on the bridge in season three, it's like, Oh, we just lost baby Yoda. It feels like we lost them over a year ago. We've been gone without baby girl for a long time. If you do a time jump in the show, you can make us feel that. Yeah. I, I love it again. We, we said, we didn't want them to just hammer in the old shit, but if you do stuff,
Starting point is 01:08:20 I mean, if you're bringing Boba Fett back, it would make sense that he would go back to Jabba's palace. And like, that's obviously financially it works for him too which is a guy who cares about money it would be awesome for him to like want to become the head of that crime syndicate my god bib he's in quarantine like the rest of us that's fucking that's kobe too apparently because he's got it packed on the the the kobe i'd love seeing him i never thought i like we would see him again i never was like oh i would love to see bib fortuna again i assumed he died on the sail barge like everybody else right but fat bib fortuna he was everything i never knew i wanted to see was he on the he had to be on the
Starting point is 01:08:55 sail barge when i think you see him for sure because it's like i could understand bo being like listen like you stay here so no one sits on my throne while i'm out you know killing these people and executing them um but i i would previously i know this was like officially a retcon because on the star wars website previously they posted it it said like big fortune had died on the sail barge gotcha okay so they definitely okay that's fine i'm fine with that i just love how like you said the like the little things like the rancor and i didn't even know about the staff thing all the ties into jedi and that fucking sitting on the throne as she's drinking the drink that is cool as boba fett you know it's d in his dna right there i feel awful for the people that stopped watching at the credits i've been there before but the first time that's a that's a tough break but you have to learn like this is marvel we're in the same marvel kind of game now with
Starting point is 01:09:44 star wars you have to just be watching all the way through get to the end we learned our lesson here and i'm gonna put this announcement too bubba is no longer sus at all and even if he becomes a villain he attacks mando he steals groot uh jesus christ grogu all this kind of shit boba is a friend of the program now and at this point he's now in the crime syndicate he's changed sides he's looking out for boba and boba only the debt has been paid we are good we are good with bubble we're gucci everything is good with boba so i'm making that announcement i'm with you i co-sign everything you just said that that is on behalf of the podcast we straight up fucked up bobaa. Listen, we fucked up. We're sus. We're sus.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Don't trust us, Boba. Don't trust me. Yeah, yeah. You can't trust me. I loved the Jedi vibes. Also, just because Return of the Jedi, I think I've said this on the show before. It feels the most like an episode of The Mandalorian to me. If you put on Return of the Jedi and you stop it right after Han is rescued, that feels
Starting point is 01:10:39 like a one-off Star Wars adventure. It just feels, oh, well, let's go to Jabba's Palace, rescue Han. We see all these weird looking aliens. We fight the Rancor. And it almost feels like a new movie starts once everything is over with. So the fact that they're paying so much homage to Return of the Jedi through
Starting point is 01:10:55 just the Boba stuff, the Bib Fortuna stuff, the Palace stuff, all of the characters that we've seen previously to even the post-credits scene of this episode, I fucking love because I've always been just a mark for that movie. But that's it, Clem. Obviously, I have next week to talk about the award show. I hope everybody has a phenomenal Christmas, a phenomenal life day.
Starting point is 01:11:15 Merry Christmas. I hope that we helped get you through 2020 just like everyone else did. And I'll throw it over now to some thoughts from HQ. Tomorrow, I'll be back with a podcast with Youngblood, one of the best new names in the music industry. Clem, any final thoughts before we throw it over to some friends from HQ? No, man. I'm just, I'm so happy that we got, like you said in the beginning of the pod,
Starting point is 01:11:37 I'm so happy that Jon Favreau, Dave Filoni, they brought us back to this. I mean, everyone, I feel like, is in this together. And it feels like we're getting we're getting a ton of new stuff i'm even more excited for the new stuff now now that we've kind of gotten back i feel like the ship has been righted whatever happens in this timeline when the sequel trilogy comes like i don't even care about that it's in the future it's also in the past in a weird way who cares it's over i'm happy we get to all like go through this together i'm i'm fucking happy for disney now they're gonna happy star wars fans are united it just feels so good to all be united i'll love this i tweeted over the weekend
Starting point is 01:12:09 like the sequel trilogy talking about it online at this point feels like talking about politics like i want to stay away from it entirely i don't even want to mention it because people will be like oh fuck you ryan johnson whatever one more thing that i actually forgot to mention i'm gonna end this podcast by blowing your mind and blowing all the minds all around the world clem one thing that they never paid off that little ball that little screw-on ball from the mandalorian's razor crest what if that is one day incorporated into the hilt of grogu's first lightsaber oh that would be screws that off to the bottom come All right, we're throwing it over to HQ. Everyone, yeah, their minds are blown.
Starting point is 01:12:48 What's up? It is Ken Jack here from Lights, Camera, Barstool. And I want to tell you that I really enjoyed this finale of Season 2. I think there was plenty of great action, awesome dialogue, and an emotional ending to the Baby Yoda arc. I particularly enjoyed Mando versus the Dark Troopers and the overall feeling of inevitable doom that the Dark Troopers had to everyone and the whole crew involved.
Starting point is 01:13:07 And the fight with Mando, where he's just getting concussed, was hilarious. Also, Pedro Pascal winning a spear fight instead of getting his head crushed was a nice reprieve from Game of Thrones. The emotional closure we got from Mando and Baby-O was satisfying, especially because it had almost a vibe of a kid yelling at the dog,
Starting point is 01:13:24 go on, get, get out of here! And I really liked that. I enjoyed the emotional, kind of like that emotional catharsis that we got from him touching, Baby-O touching Mando's face. And kind of like, you know, that it was just a real feeling of sadness and melancholy because he does have to go, but he don't want him to. And I think that one of the things I really like about this show is that it exists in the periphery of the trilogy content. And that's to say that it exists outside of the things I really like about this show is that it exists in the periphery of the trilogy content. And that's to say that it exists outside of the Skywalkers and the other main characters and blazes its own path while giving us live-action stuff from the Expanded Universe and also the cartoons, which are obviously canon but not really respected enough, I think, as far as most mainstream Star Wars consumers.
Starting point is 01:14:00 So having Luke show up made complete and total sense, but it also kind of broke that illusion a little bit for me. And not just because now a Skywalker is part of the Mandalorian story, but because I just don't think the de-aging on Mark Hamill looked all that great. And I'm willing to suspend disbelief for basically everything with star Wars because you know, it's star Wars,
Starting point is 01:14:17 but at the same time, still a little bit jarring overall though. I think we had great emotional closure for baby yo, and also a good set up a future conflict between Mando and Bo-Katan. And we're going to get live action Mandalore. How cool is that? Also, also, Boba Fett killing that fat slob Bib Fortuna and taking the throne of Tatooine like Conan the Barbarian.
Starting point is 01:14:35 Badass as all hell. All right, here are the Jeff D'Lo final thoughts. I love the way this season ended. I thought the Luke Skywalker thing worked better than it was probably conceptualized in my head I'm fired up they're gonna do probably a mini series Boba Fett and then lead into the Mandalorian season three I like that they're splitting it off a bit it's not gonna overcrowd Mandalorian with too many familiar things like I love the Luke thing but it's time to get away from that like get away from the Luke thing get away from the
Starting point is 01:15:02 things that we know focus on Mandalore because there's so many interesting things that you can do with Mandalore we know it from Clone Wars you know from Rebels so I'm fired up about that uh it's it's the best live action Star Wars stuff since Empire Strikes Back I love the Force Awakens probably my that'd be my second favorite thing I liked Last Jedi a lot Big Last Jedi I felt like Rogue One but I just think the Mandalorian hits home in a way that no one's been able to do since Empire Strikes Back until now at Favreau and the king the king Dave Filoni Mandalorian season two finale thoughts wow um oh my Holy shit. All the above. Can't believe what I watched on Friday morning. I think I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's as ambitious and as big of a risk taken since I am your father, since Empire Strikes Back. I think that there was always thoughts.
Starting point is 01:16:28 There was always hopes, rumors that Luke Skywalker would at some point maybe on the x-wing uh destroying everything in his sight um with ease and then not only that but then revealing himself and speaking it was just unbelievable um truly there's no other way to put it i i can't believe that that that's where they went and i'm happy about it i think you had ezra bridger a thought i know robbie uh maybe said uh the purple lightsaber would ignite with mace windu all the above would have been cool but i think when you just stop and step back for a second and look at it in the timeline, this absolutely makes the most sense. We've seen Ahsoka Tano, and obviously in this season, she said there's not many Jedi out there, and there's not.
Starting point is 01:17:14 Ezra Bridger, we thought it would be him most likely because of Filoni connection and all that. But we don't know where he is. We don't know anything about Ezra Bridger right now as it currently stands with it being five to seven years after Return of the Jedi we know that Luke Skywalker is the most powerful we know that he's out there we know that the bad guys have been defeated in terms of Vader and the Emperor for the time being. I think it makes the most sense. Luke Skywalker fits up in the timeline. It sets up for more stories in between the sequel trilogy and even during the sequel trilogy as to what happened with Luke, what happened with that Jedi Temple,
Starting point is 01:17:59 what happened with young Ben Solo. So I'm thrilled about it it i was very sad to see mando and and baby yoda and baby grow uh have to be separated that that tore me apart like i'm sure it did everybody else so it was such a weird mix of holy cow can't believe what we just saw luke skywalker is here this is unbelievable all-time star wars moment to oh oh, damn, our buddies are separated. And the connection there and the emotion there from Mando taking off his helmet, going against his way, the Mandalorian way, the Creed, and showing that emotion with Baby Yoda, that tore me up big time. So I'm going to miss that.
Starting point is 01:18:44 I hope that they get reconnected like they said they would. But overall, wow, what a time to be a Star Wars fan hello Robbie basement heads basement ears basement tears I don't know what I don't know what the uh the MMB the NMBs how are we I'm going to try and keep this tight I'm just going to go uh stream of conscious if you will my thoughts on the Mandalorian season finale. I loved it. I thought it was action-packed. Not in a long time have I had the anxiety that I felt watching this show. I really enjoyed how it got straight into the action.
Starting point is 01:19:16 I think one of my only gripes with the Mandalorian is that sometimes they take a long time to get into things. Some say they're filler episodes, but it's like they spend the entire episode focusing on one thing, and then at the end they kind of give the Easter egg, or that's really what they were going for the whole time. It took them an entire episode to just get to what the people wanted. This episode, obviously season finale, they just jumped straight into it, straight into the action. Five minutes in, I was like, holy fuck, I have so much anxiety. season finale they just jumped straight into it straight into the uh the action five minutes and
Starting point is 01:19:45 i was like holy fuck like i have so much anxiety i was wondering like since they started so early are they going to get him and then and like really like get out of their escape is there going to be multiple planets like is this going to be just because because i thought it was going to be like they're going to plan they're going to plot and at the end they're going to take down you know go get baby yoda back but they really just went straight into it uh straight into the plan of of breaking the guy down the scientist uh was an absolute snitch i don't really know why he just like snitched that hard that quickly i guess that's just like you know the way he goes he just he's not trying to get killed so he'll just give up any any and all information but i thought originally like that
Starting point is 01:20:25 was going to come back to fight fight them he was going to give them wrong information or something he did not uh the dark troopers i enjoy i enjoy star wars because they really give like a it's like a superpower like the force and the beskar armor are truly our superpowers because dark trooper obviously you know i thought I thought Mando was dead. I thought it was funny how it was like, you know, that split second between getting in and getting out and that guy getting through. I thought he was going to die right there. He did not. Moff Gideon was kind of a huge bitch.
Starting point is 01:20:59 I feel like I'm rambling right now. I'm not doing good on this solo recap. I'm just going to try and do the bullet points. Moff Gideon came off as a huge bitch. They set him up as this big, bad character. He had a great monologue speech. He was giving Mando the Baby Yoda back, and then he tried to kill him. He failed.
Starting point is 01:21:18 He got out-dueled, lost the Darksaber. I don't understand why they can't just take the Darksaber. I get it's tradition and all that shit, but it's like everything has changed in the Star Wars world in the past 20 years. Like, two Death Stars have been taken down. You know, there's no more, there's barely any more Jedis. Like, there's all this shit,
Starting point is 01:21:36 and all of a sudden she can't take the Darksaber because it has to be won in, like, a death duel or whatever. That was, like, weird to me where it was like, she should have just said, she should have said that before, or she should have made it clear to Mandel, uh, to,
Starting point is 01:21:51 to what's, I guess his name's Dinden. He should have made it clear to Dinden that you can't hold the dark saber. Otherwise, you know, you're the, you're the king of Mandalore. Clearly they set up that those are going to be the future episodes.
Starting point is 01:22:06 Then the X-Wing showed up. I was kind of hoping it wasn't Luke Skywalker. I was hoping it was going to be someone else because I was confused because I didn't really love Luke Skywalker in the sequel trilogies. I just didn't. I didn't really like the sequel trilogies in general, and I didn't love Luke Skywalker's role. I thought it was kind of weird. So I thought that Luke Skywalker was showing up,
Starting point is 01:22:27 so I was a little like, oh, you know, here comes fucking old-ass Luke, and I was very pleasantly surprised when he took off his, his robe, and it was old Luke Skywalker, it brought back all the feels, all the nostalgia, it was cool how baby Yoda, like, woke up, and you could, you know, could tell the force was there, that was super exciting. I don't know where they're going to go from here. I guess they're going to focus on the taking over of Mandalore the planet and there's no more Baby Yoda, Grogu. I don't know. Overall though, I was extremely pleasantly surprised. Very action-packed, very anxietycing I wish I just it makes me dislike the sequel trilogy so much more because I wish they could just use this and go forward with the movies
Starting point is 01:23:13 instead of having to kind of like retroactively validate the bad things that those movies did and they kind of have to play within that world because it's so interesting I think the Mandalorians done such a good job of like building off of the Star Wars world but making it their own thing, whereas the sequel trilogy just remade the movies three different times and did all these unnecessary things. But that's it. This is probably a terrible recap of a rambling person
Starting point is 01:23:41 who's not necessarily the most diehard Star Wars person, but I am a huge fan of the old movies and of The Mandalorian. Thank you, Robbie Fox. Love you guys. You know, what's incredible is like the last few episodes, it felt like each show was topping the previous show.
Starting point is 01:23:58 And Boba Fett, just seeing Boba Fett, everything we've always wanted to see about Boba Fett, all the badass that they've always said about Boba Fett, well, that's Boba Fett. We finally got to see it in person, the true Boba Fett. And then everything the last ten minutes of that show, the season finale, is everything the sequel trilogy should have been.
Starting point is 01:24:23 And it goes back to what George Lucas said. He wants his shows to rhyme. The way Luke walked in there was just like Vader in Rogue One. Just... These super soldiers were no match for him. Mando barely beat these guys. And they got sucked into space and they came back and bought it.
Starting point is 01:24:49 And they're about to kick ass. And Moff Gideon's laughing in there. And Luke just goes to him like... Like the pathetic battle droids from the prequels. I mean, he just destroyed him. And it's like, don't let him in. And then he lets him in. And then to top it off, you hear the little whistling.
Starting point is 01:25:12 I had to look at my phone. I dropped my phone. And all of a sudden, nope, there's R2. I mean, I just couldn't believe what I was seeing. And then to top it all off, you have this post-creditsits scene where Boba Fett just goes and he claims Jabba's throne. You have Bib Fortuna over there. I mean, he's become a unit. He looks like me.
Starting point is 01:25:35 He could join the Barstool units. He looks like me over there on his throne. I mean, Bib Fortuna, when we saw him in Return of the Jedi was this kind of like this pathetic loser. I mean, that Luke just like mind-melded him and then Jabba like smacked him upside the head and we didn't see him again. All of a sudden now he's sitting on the throne. Boba, you're alive! It's so nice to see you!
Starting point is 01:26:02 And Boba takes care of him. Now, what does this mean? The Book of Boba takes care of him now what does this mean the book of Boba Fett is this next season's Mandalorian or is this a Boba Fett series either one I think it would be great to see I want to see more Boba Fett

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