My Mom's Basement - FRIDAY BONUS EPISODE 20 - 'DIE HARD' COMMENTARY WITH CLEM

Episode Date: December 27, 2019

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays everybody! Here's a Friday Bonus Edition of My Mom's Basement featuring a 2+ hour 'Die Hard' commentary track by Robbie and Clem to help getcha through the holiday...s! Yippee-Ki-Yay!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. My favorite movie of all time because it is the greatest movie of all time. It's the greatest Christmas. We did this now because the whole Christmas debate. It's the greatest Christmas movie if you lump it into the Christmas category. I think you definitely do. I'm of the mindset. I know people roll their eyes or whatever. I think Die Hard is a Christmas movie. There's more references to Christmas in Die Hard than I'm pretty sure like movies like Home Alone. You know, movies that are like based around their quote unquote Christmas staples.
Starting point is 00:00:44 Die Hard has more Christmas I once did Back in pre Barstool days And I was trying to get in the blog game I had 25 Instances where they reference Christmas Oh wow and I just cut it off At 25 because you know December 25th Shout out my guy JC but Yeah I mean 25 references
Starting point is 00:00:59 And we won't we'll get I'm sure we'll get into It during the thing but shout out to you For for putting this on the pod. Shout out to Brother Fox, who was the one who came up with this idea, right? Yeah, my big brother. He was like, you guys got to do that. And I was like, immediately, yes, we have to because that's the best idea I've ever heard. So we're going to get into this.
Starting point is 00:01:17 If you are at home, sync up Die Hard with us. We have the iTunes copy of Die Hard. So what we're going to do is we're going to do a little 3-2-1 countdown. 3-2-1 click. And once we hit click, we're pressing play on the movie. You could sync up at home along with us. And we're going to watch this thing. I'm going to kind of interview Clem about his Die Hard fandom.
Starting point is 00:01:36 We're going to read off some fun facts. It'll be a good time. So here we go. The official My Mom's Basement Die Hard watch-along. 3-2-1 click. Yipp watch-along. Three, two, one, click. Yippee-ki-yay, motherfucker. 20th Century Fox fanfare, so classic. I mean, I love hearing that every time.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Now, when you hear this, what do you... Star Wars. It goes Star Wars, right? Yeah, me too. And I love Die Hard. I've watched Die Hard more than any other movie in the world, and I still think of Star Wars every single time. It's just, it's so associated with like that.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Yeah. Because you expect to see a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away immediately afterwards. Yeah. So here we go. We're landing, which everyone, I just love how it starts in a completely different world. It's in an airplane.
Starting point is 00:02:21 We have the passenger right next to him. Looks just like my boy Cabo's dad, too, which is fun to have. The airplane passenger looks just like your friend's dad is always a fun thing. Yes. Have you ever tried to curl your toes? I know you make fists with your toes. Have you ever tried? Because that's what he tells him to do here.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Oh, yeah, I can. I have really long toes. Yeah? Yeah. You have long toes? Long-toed fox? Is that what they called you in high school? Literally, everyone in my family has long toes.
Starting point is 00:02:44 It's weird. Not like abnormally long, but long enough where I could curl them, yeah. Well, they say that helps with flying. It never really done it for me where like it eases you, I guess, after the flight. But I guess that's a thing. No, I don't like flights at all. And I don't think that would ease me. Flights, bro, they kill my back.
Starting point is 00:03:02 They kill my ass. I got a bony ass. So sitting in those seats rough. You're an underratedly long fellow, too. People don't realize that about you. I'm like six feet, so yeah, no leg room. I suggest trying to make fists with your abnormally large toes next time. Next time.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Next time I will. I mean, I don't know about flying private if it's really necessary for those kind of flights. I'm throwing. I'm not flying private all the time. Don't start this narrative that I'm some kind of bougie private flyer. Come on. I'm riding with that. So right off Don't start this narrative that I'm some kind of bougie private flyer. Come on. I'm riding with that.
Starting point is 00:03:27 So right off the bat, I want to ask you this. Did you see Die Hard in theaters? I did not. And this is – it's almost – I don't want to say a little bit of a shame thing. Oh, first of all, look at the eye fuck. Oh, she's eye fucking him. That's when you know our hero is the man. He's a badass.
Starting point is 00:03:41 All the ladies want to be with him. All the guys want to be him. Yeah. Like when he just drops that line, I'm too like've been a cop for you know 20 years like don't worry about it um i didn't see this in the theaters because it came out when i was i think six so you know okay it's 88 88 so yeah i was six or you know depending on whenever it came out of my birthday but i was actually i remember this commercial i was terrified of the movie because it's like a scare you know you're six years old and just people you know die first of all dies in the word like just seeing the word
Starting point is 00:04:07 die scared you at the age of six and then you see people like shooting on the thing so i've never ever i never watched it i saw a diehard with a vengeance first oh interesting which sucks because it kind of spoils i mean we won't spoil for anyone we could spoil fucking it's hans gruber's brother in diehard with a vengeance and it's like oh that would be pretty cool to see and i loved it i saw dar with a vengeance i loved it i was obsessed with it i also loved that you loved it too yeah and it's i mean you know new york city obviously is the background and fucking uh what's his name uh jeremy irons just kills it jeremy irons is so good in that especially now i'm watching like watchmen and i'm getting so into him as adrian veidt or whatever and looking back, I'm like, oh shit, he's been crushing it for a long time.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I also – this is maybe a hot take but right off the bat, I could mention it. I think Die Hard 3 is not as good as Die Hard, not even close. But I think it's as rewatchable as Die Hard. That is a great take. I will – this is my favorite movie ever. So I'll say it's slightly, slightly less. It's basically one A, one B and it is by far the second best Die Hard. I think Die Hard 2 kind of –
Starting point is 00:05:08 I was talking about it before with some of the guys out there. I don't know if I've ever seen Die Hard 2, and if I have, I don't really remember it much. It was in an airport on Christmas, right? It's another Christmas thing which seems kind of silly. Half the characters are in it even though it's DC. It makes an already stretch of them. It's like Washington DC. I thought I was like Batman, Superman.
Starting point is 00:05:29 They're all in it too. Yeah. We've morphed into the DC universe. So I never saw one and then I rewatched one. I was like, man, three would have been really cool. So how old were you when you watched one? Do you remember around that time period? It was whenever it came out.
Starting point is 00:05:42 So like 95-ish. So I was 13 i guess and at that point i stopped being such a pussy because like i was scared of bringing i was gonna say what were you into at that point what what is like the mindset of of a young young clem when he first watches die hard and it changes his life it was like it's what kind of movies were you into what kind of music were you listening to well i was listening i was in the hardcore gangster hip-hop rap so it's like i could listen to violence i just didn't want to see violence um uh tupac biggie i was a tupac guy then became a biggie guy um later in my years and were you like a closet tupac was it weird
Starting point is 00:06:16 being a tupac guy living in new york no because it was just a bunch of white suburb kids around me anyway so they they were probably the same dr dre was actually my dude that got me into it like dr dre i was the first cd i like yeah you like the chronic a lot of course yes so oh god holly mclean is just the best and you weren't really into like action movies like this prior to this no this got me like this kind of like i there was action movies i'm sure i liked but this is when i was like oh i'll just watch every single kind of movie i'm not i'm just gonna go hard in on every movie, which is kind of like we were saying out there. Die Hard was kind of known as like the godfather for a lot of the action movies that came after it. Of course, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Die Hard on a bus. Let's do Die Hard but on a – Die Hard on a bus was speed. Die Hard on a boat was speed too. Die Hard on a plane. They made speed too? Yeah, they made it speed too. I never saw it, but I know they did make it. What are the other Die Hard movies?
Starting point is 00:07:08 Is Con Air kind of a... Yeah, I think Air Force One was like Die Hard on a Plane. And there's, I think, someone who kind of just broke down like every, like Steven Seagal was basically every movie he had was Die Hard on a different thing. Liam Neeson had a couple of those. Yeah, exactly. So how do you feel about the Die Hard
Starting point is 00:07:26 sequels that are, you know, relatively still happening? I just buy. I dislike four. I loathe five. Captain Cons tries to tell me how great four is and I know you're a Kevin Smith guy. I like four. You're going to be a big Kevin Smith fan. Four, it's a weird thing for me to remember
Starting point is 00:07:41 but it was the first movie that I ever saw in the theater that wound up being like the theater we went to the most. I remember going to that theater the first time to see Die Hard 4, which was I think the first Die Hard movie I ever saw. Okay. Because I saw it in theaters. I was super young. It was 2005, 2006, 2007 maybe. And I remember just being like, that was awesome action.
Starting point is 00:08:02 It's the craziest. Justin Long's in it. The guy from Dodgeball. Kevin long's in it the guy from dodgeball kevin smith is in it my guy so i i like have like a nostalgic thing about die hard with a vengeance and when i catch it on tv now i'm a little like but i still like it that what which one's that one die hard i don't know if there's even i think it's just die hard four right the no four is with a vengeance no three's with a vengeance oh yeah you're right because What am I thinking then? I don't know what it is. It's a good day to die hard.
Starting point is 00:08:27 It's a good day to die hard, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The plane, the car into the helicopter is so preposterous. Absurd. Absurd. And that's the thing about – this is why I love Die Hard. This feels like realistic. As realistic as it gets.
Starting point is 00:08:38 He's like an underdog. He has his shoes off. All this shit is going wrong with him. But he has like this near cop. It just seems like it could happen. It would be he has like this near cop it just seems like it could happen it would be an ultimate underdog story where that just seems like that's when john mcclain became like arnold schwarzenegger yeah and he also gets his ass kicked a decent amount you know he's constantly it's the thing about 80s action heroes they just keep getting up yeah
Starting point is 00:08:57 exactly i love that about him another thing about this scene i'm not if any kids are listening to this out there don't listen to what i'm about to say Smoking is so cool Whenever a guy's smoking a cig I just gotta tell you It's super cool The fact I never became a smoker After idolizing John McClane For like my entire teenage and then adult life
Starting point is 00:09:15 Is actually somewhat Have you ever smoked? I mean I've had a cigarette in my life But I think they're gross I've taken two puffs I took one puff I was like ugh And then I was like oh no this is terrible And they never took a puff no i i've had like cigarettes
Starting point is 00:09:28 like i've had a drunk cigarette i've had a post joint cigarette people like stuff like that i've tried it not for me not for me no we got a christmas yeah this is like the third christmas reference of the movie we got some christmas time and hollis queens banger of a christmas jam that should be played more i believe and also like a cool a cool intro to the movie like it gives it kind of a weird like it gives it a vibe not a weird vibe that's the perfect way to and we're pulling up to nakatomi the the sun is setting now do you know that that nakatomi is a real place i do i actually just read about the actual place that it is fox 20th century fox yeah it's the fox building Fox building. And during the movie, when it was filmed,
Starting point is 00:10:05 it was still under construction or whatever. So it wasn't like a live building that people were going to. So why they could just film a movie at it. How brilliant. We still have the old office. We should film a Die Hard sequel in that bitch. My wife and I, we planned out a trip to California.
Starting point is 00:10:19 We went from San Fran all down to LA, Anaheim and to San Diego, drove it, went on the coastal highway. Awesome. And she's like, anywhere you want to go Anaheim, and to San Diego. Drove it. Went on the coastal highway. Awesome. And she's like, anywhere you want to go? I was like, the Dyer Building. That was the only thing. I wanted to go to every baseball stadium in Cali.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Did you go? Did you get a picture? It was the first thing we went to when we hit California. It was like L.A. When we got to L.A., it was like, all right, we're going to go. It was at nighttime, too. It was perfect. I saw the little lights in the sky.
Starting point is 00:10:40 It was – it is kind of weird, but i know that there's a lot of other weirdos like me who do this definitely dude i when i went to chicago years ago before i even worked at barstool i just went to every location where the dark knight was shot i went to the corner where you see the joker getting picked up in the beginning of the movie i went to the you know the big alleyway where the truck flips at the end like i went to all the places the the um parking garage from the beginning like that made me geek out when i walked up to the corner that the jokers were standing waiting to get picked up for the bank robbery i got like chills oh shit this is like an iconic shot definitely i remember devil moves
Starting point is 00:11:12 in new york he's like i'm just going to the place where spider-man was doing this and spider-man yeah well we used to work by the flat iron building which was the daily bugle that i mean there's a few places in new york that i think are cool for that now we got the joker stairs yeah the joker in the Yeah, the Joker Stairs. In the middle of the Bronx. If you're going to the Joker Stairs, good luck. You might actually get killed by the Joker. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Or someone calling us. The Friends Apartment. We have the album cover of Led Zeppelin's Physical Graffiti. Wow. Bob was some deep dives there. Yeah, a little bit. A little rock and roll reference for you. This is when Die Hard hurts is when the old technology is there. And this is pretty good for 88, right?
Starting point is 00:11:45 Yeah. That's pretty decent. It looks almost like Death Star technology. Yeah, that guy's desk, the security guard's desk is definitely Death Star. They got that from the 20th century lot, the 20th century Fox. They just picked it up. They were like, oh, this looks cool. Throw that in there. And this is the thing.
Starting point is 00:12:01 On the rewatches, you get to see where all the security guards are, the camera. So – and John, he's a cop. He's always thinking. So you're like, all right, this is going to come into play in the future. And such a good slow setup for this movie. I feel like so many movies nowadays, maybe it's because people's attention spans are non-existent. But they just always start with a bang like trailers nowadays always start with boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And then the actual trailer starts and it's always like really like you can't just let this sink
Starting point is 00:12:29 like this is all you're you're taking everything in you're taking in who john mclean is real quick before he gets on this adventure you're taking in okay he's got this driver okay he's got someone at the security desk that he knows he's looking at the cameras i think this is like a movie would never begin like this today, I feel like. Yeah, I feel like, I bet the marketing people are like, we have to get the people to drop their phones,
Starting point is 00:12:49 so let's just boom, boom, boom them, and then we can put the trailer. Why don't we start with a flashback of John McClane in the force, and he's in a gunfight. I feel like, I have to watch the commercial again, but I feel like that thing with the California,
Starting point is 00:13:03 they probably had that in the trailer just to be like, oh, pretty girl on screen. Yeah. Now, the way of the barstool party tonight as we take. Yes, this will not be what the barstool party looks like. We don't have champagne going around, but it is. It is that like a fancy or I guess we could say now. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Yeah, because it'll be it'll come out afterwards. It's at the John Wick Hotel. That is sick. The inside. Yeah. Whatever. Yeah. I think it's the inside of the Continental. It's the Jane Hotel Wick Hotel That is sick The inside of it right Yeah the Whatever yeah I think it's
Starting point is 00:13:25 The Jane The inside of the Continental It's the Jane Hotel In New York City And that'll be kind of like One of those cool moments for us That we were just talking about Yeah
Starting point is 00:13:31 This is where John Wick So he meets the attractive bartender Yeah it's like the only thing Urging me to go to the Christmas party Tonight as a non-drinker As a non like I don't like that social scene It makes me very uncomfortable
Starting point is 00:13:41 I'm like But it's the John Wick Hotel It's also weird too Because like this Christmas party I mean, they're, you know, in finance or whatever they are. And it's like everyone's loosening up. But it's like everyone's always loose here. So it's like you can't really go to the barstool Christmas party and everyone's already been loose. And if you talk, no one wants to talk work. But like work is fun for us.
Starting point is 00:14:00 So it's always a weird dynamic at the barstool Christmas parties, I feel. Always very strange. Yeah. definitely not like this uh party although john mclean is you know a little fish out of water here yes we're getting we're setting the we're setting the scene for him being a fish i'd already sees his wife's uh maiden name on the door that has to hurt if my if my wife's maiden name was on the door that i hadn't seen oh now this is the cult hero of the movie our guy ellis harry ellis one of my favorite guys in the world he's such a typical 80s yuppie scumbag he's blowing lines in holly's office of a married woman or estranged it's a very tricky situation miss some what a
Starting point is 00:14:38 line he's a cop he's such a great cop he always has the eye for you know who this is gonna seem like i'm kissing some ass here. But he's like Dave. Dave notices everything. He does. He'll look in the corner and say, why did you just do that? And someone will be like, there's a reason why these barstool controversies always happen. It's because Dave is always like –
Starting point is 00:14:56 And it might take him like a little bit to notice something. There's been – I've been here for three years. You've been here even longer. There's been moments where I think we catch on to something as like the content people sooner than he does. But it always trickles down and he always finds out. Like always. It's very impressive. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:14 He's the guy who won't know the date. Yeah. The other day you introduced the rundown. It's November 12th. I think it was December 18th. All right. November 12th. Rundown.
Starting point is 00:15:23 You're like, Dave, Jesus. Bonnie Bedelia. Underrated 80s smoke. That is an 80s smoke if I've ever seen one. She's definitely smoked with the puffy hair and all that. She's casual with those buttons. Very casual with those buttons, Bonnie. It's a Christmas party.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Like we said, we're loosening up a little bit. Celebrating the year that we just had. A very successful year. It's a Rolex. We were actually just discussing how much a Rolex costs because Mike Rinelli was rumored he got one from – I have no idea. I've never even looked into that. Me and Radio Bren were trying to figure it out.
Starting point is 00:15:52 We had no idea. Large said his – Large has one. Of course. I think he said his was $16,000. What? $16,000. $16,000? I thought you were going to say two grand max, and I was still going to be surprised.
Starting point is 00:16:05 $16,000 for a watch. And that was just large. Is Mike Grinnell wearing a $16,000 watch on his wrist? Is Mike Grinnell allowed to get mugged for a $16,000 watch? I was going to say, he's going to get beat up. Yeah. You go to the barstool party, get a couple of... I hope he doesn't wear that thing.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Do people wear Rolexes regularly? Large doesn't. He's like, I don't wear mine. He goes, my Rolex doesn't tell me i have a text message because he wears his i watch oh true and it's like well rolex rolex is kind of must be struggling i don't understand i guess it's just people are into different things people collect certain things i have toys in my apartment people say why would a grown adult ever buy a toy but i can't i can't fathom buying a watch i hate watches i think they're just such i understand if you're doing it for like the accessory piece, but like I just use my phone for the time.
Starting point is 00:16:49 That's just me. Oh, she's already throwing the spare bedroom out there. Oh, can you – like you don't know how it's going to go when she throws the spare bedroom out in like the first ten minutes. It must be such like an icebreaker. Like, oh, thank God. I'm not going to have to sleep an hour away on Cappy's couch. Yeah. Oh. Thank God I'm not going to have to sleep an hour away on Cappy's couch. Yeah. These fucking guys.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Another 80s thing. Another 80s trope. I wonder if anyone in the bar still parties will be doing that tonight. Oh, jeez. Hey, I wouldn't doubt it. I wouldn't doubt it. Unless the boat bruises flowing. I honestly wouldn't doubt it, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:23 But this is John. He's the fatal flaw he just can't just ride the good waves didn't miss my name and then the fight comes you fucking asshole john he couldn't let it go just couldn't let it go but like you like every guy sees himself in john like if there's just a little thing that's gonna bother you and that's a big thing too you see yeah right off the bat here's a question for you this might be a touchy subject how would you feel about someone recasting john mclean oh are you major anti you don't want to see anyone but bruce willis's mclean or would you like to see maybe the franchise rebooted someday with some new john mclean or would you like to see maybe the franchise rebooted someday with some new john mclean so i
Starting point is 00:18:06 was in preparation for this i was going through my old diehard blogs to see what i've written and there was i don't know if it's still happening but there was gonna be a prequel like a prequel sequel i remember yeah i remember hearing about that yeah and i don't know if shia was the guy who was gonna be mclean or i obviously yeah weird it would be very weird and then there was joseph gordon i going to say they should almost do – Yeah, Joseph Gordon-Levitt. I could live with it if it's prequel McClane, but you need to nail it because that's the most important thing in the world. So you wouldn't want to see – even if they took someone and they were like, this story takes place right after Die Hard 3.
Starting point is 00:18:40 What if they're just like – we've talked about on the podcast making Indiana Jones our James Bond. What if they were like this is just a John McClane story? This is like a fun spinoff. It doesn't relate to any of the other movies, but we'll crank these out. Would you be in for that? I could live with it, but I'm going to go insane. It's like you're not my real dad. I'm not going – I'm going – like, hey, if someone comes in and somehow does better than Bruce Willis, which I think is impossible because he's the greatest action hero that ever lived, more power to him.
Starting point is 00:19:09 But it's almost like with Star Wars, Rise of Skywalker. It's like I'd be going in with very reserved expectations but hoping for the best. So yeah. I think if they did something like that for me, I would almost rather they take the diehard name and make it like an anthology. Like don't do McClane. But you could do random action stories. Maybe stories, maybe something that all ties them together. Maybe they're not the Christmas thing, but maybe they all take place over one night. It's a one-night action story, a one-night raid.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Something like that I think could be cool. And it wouldn't disparage the legacy if you're like, no, this isn't related, but we are going to continue the spirit of Die Hard. And again, they've kind of like – those last two Die Hards kind of did shit on the legacy, in my opinion. I thought they did. You see five. I didn't even see. I saw five. I hated it.
Starting point is 00:19:51 I didn't see in the movie theater. I saw it like I don't think I even pay for it. They try to do the Star Wars thing where they're like thrown in nostalgic Easter eggs and references to the old movies. And it's well, not really. But like, I mean, in in four and five it's his son his son is now like his son i don't even i don't remember but it's john and his son they're both um it's him and his son fighting and some russians i believe so it's it like there's probably some sprinklings of this original here oh that was a good day to die hard the 2007 one was live free
Starting point is 00:20:22 or die live free or die hard yes so that's the thing is i've those movies have kind of just ruined the trilogy yeah i don't even know he hasn't been in a ton he's been in divergent uh the the terminator salvation i think or terminator genesis i'm sorry there's been way too many terminator movies as well yes then i don't want them to do that with this oh what a squad there's something about vats of things that make me think villainous. Yes. When they're walking past like a big vat of something. I'm like, what's in there?
Starting point is 00:20:49 The fucking ooze from the Ninja Turtles? I don't know. Hans Gruber, though, up there with the greatest villains in movie history easily. This is Alan Rickman's debut pretty much for like movies, right? Crazy. Yeah. And the fact that he just comes out and he just kills it. Like, again, I rank my top diehard characters.
Starting point is 00:21:07 And you can make – McClane's one because he's the greatest hero. I think Hans is the greatest villain. And I flip-flop. Sometimes I'm like Hans is so good. Villains make movies. Villains make wrestling matches. Villains are the ones who do all this shit. And he is so great at what he does.
Starting point is 00:21:24 I almost feel like he's the reason this movie hits the way other diehard movies didn't i think you're right about that rest in peace to a legend alan rickman god damn some legendary roles as well it hurts dogma alan rickman yeah it's so great i mean obviously people love him for the harry potter franchise that's that was opening to me that's when i realized i was getting old is when he died and everyone saw him as the Harry Potter person. I was like, oh, shit. And I'm not a Harry Potter guy. I've only watched the first one.
Starting point is 00:21:49 And that one hurt. Everything about his look here, too. Everything about Hans Gruber is so Hans Gruber it hurts. So Hans Gruber. And the wait. Just waiting for that. Calculating. And by the way, the dee, dee, dee, dee.
Starting point is 00:22:03 But they're playing the villainous version of it like there's so many just little things that they just hit on the notes christmas tree there i'm not even going to get into the christmas side of things you can tell how i feel about this thing which i believe the person who wrote the movie says it is but then bruce willis said it isn't but he also said it's a bruce willis movie which is exactly what someone like bruce willis is also an asshole bruce willis hit on the chicks in the office when he saw him on the street at the age of 100 what are you guys getting up to right now they're like it's 11 a.m we're going back to work we're getting panera bread sir and then like just the way they set up the two kinds of characters here we have the calculating
Starting point is 00:22:43 one and then you have the fucking hard-o crazy brother who just tries to chop everything. Here we go. Fist with your toes, Bob. Yeah, curl on the toes. I could do it. Man, I could do it. I'm doing it right now in my shoes. Just getting myself fucking pumped for this movie.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Look at that face. He's like, holy shit, that shit works. And this is how we establish how he loses his shoes. Things like this I didn't pick up on the first couple times I watched it. I'm like, wait, why doesn't he have shoes? Because he was trying to fight the – going to his guy is how he finds out about the phone. Oh, everything. There's a lot of setup.
Starting point is 00:23:10 It's almost like – and this is going to be a super weird reference, but it was a movie you brought up before. It's Home Alone. Home Alone has so much setup in the beginning when the house is all chaotic and easy on the Pepsi fuller. The tickets get thrown in the garbage. The tickets get thrown in the garbage there and he goes upstairs. He gets into the fight with the family It's a slow build But once the plot like really kicks into motion
Starting point is 00:23:28 Everything clicks into place Yeah And I think this day and age It's nice to have You know Movies that are like that Which I think Knives Out is kind of like that Yeah
Starting point is 00:23:37 Knives Out did have that vintage feel And the way Our guy like Just shout out to like Boss thinks I i'm going to vegas he's just calling his girl just having a time partying with a giant teddy bear living the life our guy was one of my favorite like side characters ever there's a the supporting cast this movie is incredible yeah you're gonna meet al powell's up there these two fucking morons well more so carl who by the way right there that guy cutting all those
Starting point is 00:24:06 goddamn uh electrical things like a crazy person crazy german is a world-class ballerina wait really world real life ballerina yep i'll pull that up on youtube for you to see i believe i have that in oh yeah i'm gonna need to you're gonna have to see this guy i'll say this though i believe it like when you tell me that Right He has the look of it That long blonde European hair Alexander Goldeneff
Starting point is 00:24:29 Oh my god He's in a leotard He's showing me the video right now He's in a full body leotard Oh my god He's doing the things where You jump up in the air And he spins
Starting point is 00:24:38 10 times by the time He hits the ground That's range folks That's range Or you could play The hothead Terrorist End of fucking battle.
Starting point is 00:24:45 I wonder how he got cats. They're not terrorists. Excuse me. They're bank robbers. Oh, yeah. Whoever said we were terrorists? This is why you know McLean's great. He's ready.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Go out, guns a-blazin'. Boom, yeah. No, we have to play chess here. The same checkers must be this moment right here that look on his face is the realization of oh fuck I'm the hero
Starting point is 00:25:14 in this story and he sees he exits there next level thinking great cop oh those kids they finally found an empty room
Starting point is 00:25:21 we got titties which is another reason why Die Hard is great because it gives you titties. I say it's the greatest movie of all time, greatest Christmas movie, greatest comedy, because it's hilarious, greatest drama, greatest action movie, and even has a little bit of porn for the kids if you want that, too. Those are nice boobs, too.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Yeah, you could freeze frame it, check those things out for a bit. For laying on the table, too, they still are nice boobs. Yeah. Shout out to her. Shout out to those boobs. She's probably an old lady now. Those boobs are saggy now. They're 70 years old, give or take.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Gross. So we're on 31, 32. Again, this is when they were still building the building. I guess it was shot in there. I don't know. Ever since, after reading that Home Alone wasn't shot in the Home Alone house. That fucks you up. Yep.
Starting point is 00:26:01 I was upset. Did you watch the movies that made us on Die Hard? I have not. I think you'll enjoy it a lot. Yeah, yeah yeah there's a lot of stuff in there that is like oh shit cool while we're doing this i also have the imdb trivia page pulled up so i could read off some fun facts about the movie if we ever hit lulz obviously the one the big one that everyone always brings up is that frank sinatra was the original john mclean he was about to be cast because this was based on a book the book takes place over three days. I knew that.
Starting point is 00:26:27 And the movie, they obviously shortened it to one. I know in the book, Hans Gruber throws his daughter off, right? I didn't know that. What was the name of the book, too? I forgot the name of the book. I know Sinatra was supposed to be. I didn't realize it was over three days as well or that the daughter gets tossed. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:26:43 I'm pretty sure. I think Smitty told me that. The book is called Nothing Lasts Forever. Nothing Lasts Forever. Written in 1979, and it was a sequel to the 1966 novel The Detective. The Detective. So they just took this sequel, and they were like, let's make this the origin, and it worked out. Throw some Christmas shit in there.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Bruce Willis got paid $5 million for it, which was unprecedented at the time. Had to be approved by the Fox president. He was kind of like, he wasn't what he was now. This would make Bruce Willis Bruce Willis. He was on Moonlighting, but he wasn't like your actions before this. It wasn't really, he was in Moonlighting. I mean, he was in those stupid commercials, right? But other than that do you think hans knew what he looked like he was just fucking with him or do you think he actually didn't know who who uh mr takagi was because like he goes everyone i think he probably
Starting point is 00:27:36 knew yeah he knows so much about him you don't just not get a picture of the guy right yeah but hey it's 88 maybe you don't the age before social media. Yeah, no phones or internet. No, I definitely got the vibes. And watching The Dark Knight, I think of this scene a lot. When the Joker invades the party. Yes. He starts talking to all the patrons. I'm always like, that's kind of like that Die Hard scene.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Hans Gruber style. Once Hans starts picking on all the Asian Americans, he's like, all right, Hans, settle the fuck down. But it makes him a great villain. It does make him a great villain. Makes you hate him. Oh, what timing by Hans, too. He has fucking villain timing. The way his face is even lit in this where he's kind of dark.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Yep. It's the perfect voice, too. I imagine if you were an Eastern European, you probably were called Hans Gruber like the rest of your life. Every Russian is named Boris in people's minds. And everyone who has that accent is Hans. And that song just makes its way. It's like it's a part of the fucking story. It's basically a character at this point.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Yeah. Oh, the fucking. And then you're like, oh, Hans, we're dealing with another classic guy. Knows his suits. It is. I have to do it myself. I have to. I don't have to.
Starting point is 00:29:00 I just do. God damn. So cool. This is. It's almost like if hans there could almost oh i just saw something on the pod live we need i can live with a hans gruber origin story they gotta cast that right though that's like an important that is a very important casting but i could fuck with that but they gotta nail that who could do that right dave damon lindelof yeah anything is damon lindelof
Starting point is 00:29:26 i just meant acting wise who could play hans i don't know any any actors these days you need like give the lcb guys give them yeah cook on that for an hour yeah so i'm reading this now on the imdb imdb trivia page you may find this interesting maybe you know this already alan rickman hurt himself on the first day of shooting i did not know that so it says he had a little cue next to his name the whole time it said on alan rickman's first day of shooting he filmed the scene where hans gruber first runs into john mclean he made a jump off the ledge about three feet high and injured himself and damaged some cartilage in his knee he was told by a doctor not to put any weight on that leg and he had to use crutches for a week for the rest of the scene where hans gruber is standing and talking to john mclean he's only
Starting point is 00:30:09 standing on one leg and he has a leg brace on under his pants and the other one that's greatness right there that's like that's some that's some fun shit it's like some mj flu game get to that moment yeah it's gonna be like oh look he's standing on one leg yeah i've never and like this is almost like such a it's such a twist that we take for granted almost like vader and luke but like the fact that they're just bank robbers they're just you know trying to rob money instead of actual terrorists like yeah i think people have watched art and just forget that stuff and just like oh these guys are terrorists and whoever said we were terrorists yeah no they they don't, no, they're not interested in killing. And terrorists wasn't even like a thing.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Like, I didn't even know what a terrorist was until like, obviously like 9-11 is when it became like a real word for us. How old were you 9-11? Two?
Starting point is 00:30:55 Three. Three, Jesus. Yeah, I had just turned three. Ironically, Bruce Willis is more German than any of the villains. Is that true? Yeah, it says here
Starting point is 00:31:04 that ironically, Bruce Willis sneered at for being an the villains. Is that true? Yeah, it says here that ironically, Bruce Willis sneered at for being an all-American hero by the head German terrorist, not a terrorist, is actually more German than most of the villains. Alan Rickman was English, and Alexander Godunov was Russian. Bruce Willis was born on March 19th, 1955, in West Germany to an American father and a German mother.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Wow. That just shattered John McClane. You just shattered John McClane for me, Bob. Oh, what a line. And this, just like the whole Alexander the Great thing, and you just know, like, it's nice to know off the bat that your villains are sharp. You have a sharp guy, and the whole Madeline Whitson-McClain go-through, you're dealing with two fucking studs.
Starting point is 00:32:03 It makes sense that it takes literally the entire movie to compromise. Yes. Yeah, exactly. He was actually, it says here that he nearly passed on this role. He didn't want to do the Hans Gruber role With his first Hollywood role Really? Because to a degree, Rickman was concerned Considering his performance as Hans Gruber
Starting point is 00:32:30 Would be so hailed That the actor would struggle to be typecast That's almost like That's like a Michael Scott line I'm going to be so good at this It's going to ruin my career But I mean, shit I see him as that despite all the other stuff he's done.
Starting point is 00:32:46 I mean, he's great in Robin Hood. He's the sheriff of Nottingham. I haven't seen that. Oh, he crushes. It's a good movie. You'd like it. And this is the part where it kind of shatters you about like, oh, we're going to get aggressive. We're about to get his fucking head blown off that.
Starting point is 00:33:04 I mean, I didn't see it coming the first time i saw this movie oh so gangster sprays the whole window down they're not terrible look he's paid money there he's like up you were right he wasn't gonna tell it yeah oh i love it that window sprayed in blood and they didn't even flinch yeah just brain and blood and guts everywhere. You know what always freaks me out? What? Like, I always hear, like, those sounds in my house.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Like, it's like the house settling. How do houses settle nonstop? They've been built for 50 years. I don't understand that. I've never understood that, and it used to freak me out. Right after I watched Paranormal Activity for the first time, the house settling freaked me out a ton oh yeah a ton even now like when my wife like is like away for the night i don't sleep well just from the house i'm a grown-ass man with two kids yeah the house should be settled by now the house should be settled when does the house settle i want to buy that house i'll pay an an extra $100,000 for a house that's all settled.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Great song, too, Stephen. Great song. Another villainous thing. Just smoke piling out of it. Just smoke everywhere. God knows where. You know what was big back in the day, too? Like the smoky alleyways.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Smoky alleyways or like smoky places where they're standing on a metal grid. Yes. And there's smoke coming up from that. I was watching the Watchmen movie and there was smoke everywhere. I'm like, there's such an 80s. I don't know if the 80s just was a smoky time to be alive. Yes. Yeah. Everyone's smoking cigs wherever they want.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Because they look cool as shit. Yep, they did. Hence John McClane. They absolutely fucking did. This scene I've watched a billion times. wherever they want because they look cool as shit yep that's john mcclain they absolutely fucking did this scene i've watched a billion times and i honestly like other than that part right there i don't remember one part of what they do there i don't remember it's in the movie yeah they're tinkering with yeah i don't know but they're setting they're setting the stage here which is what i appreciate theo uh theo is another just a great sidekick.
Starting point is 00:35:25 You have the smart, articulate computer nerd, which back then you could just I love how people just type and type. No one types like that. You hit a keyboard a thousand times a minute. It's like, well, he must be hacking. Throw some glasses on him and he's got to be a nerd. That music
Starting point is 00:35:43 is just everywhere. Do you understand? that music is just everywhere and just a couple couple tech words yeah a couple tech words circuits can't be cut it's the whole electromagnetic thing you know jargon jargon just take our word for it it's gonna take a miracle this is so relatable too I was going to say Having him be like Oh fuck What am I doing Yeah he's just not some
Starting point is 00:36:09 Badass smoking a cigarette Ready to just kill Some bad guys But he's like Freaking out This guy too Just acting like a fuck He sounds more American
Starting point is 00:36:22 Than I do Trent He's like Trent We got a fire alarm over here on floor 23. These fucking jerk-offs. They could have changed the whole movie. Yeah, a little too arrogant there. That is such an outdated reference.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Like a car phone coming out. I don't even know what that is. Yeah, a little too arrogant there. That is such an outdated reference. Like a car phone coming out. I don't even know what that is. Yeah, you don't even know what that is. People would have landlines in their car? In their car. It was like that was the phone you used in your car. It was something that looked like that. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Did you have one? My dad had one. Yeah. I don't know. Why the fuck he had one? I don't think I've ever seen that in my life, if we're being honest. Yeah, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:04 First for you. Yeah. Well, I guess I've seen it every time I've watched Die Hard. I haven't recognized it the fuck he had one. I don't think I've ever seen that in my life, if we're being honest. Yeah, really? Yeah. First for you. Yeah. Well, I guess I've seen it every time I've watched Die Hard. I haven't recognized it as a car phone. That's what they looked like. I don't know if that's their little Die Hard props that they have, their Star Wars props that they're using. This guy coming in with the fucking all gray outfit, which nothing worse is when you leave
Starting point is 00:37:21 your house, you didn't realize you're in all gray. Yeah, he looks like he's an ad for champion. Yeah, exactly. And, like, I feel like those bullets don't even hurt because that guy just dressed like a little fucking fairy. Yeah, I also, wearing gray to this whole mission, you got to know you're going to be sweating. Yeah. Come on, dude. I'm not a big wear gray guy.
Starting point is 00:37:44 This guy didn't strike me as like a You know I'm gonna be running a lot Kind of guy either he's like the brains of the operators He's the one hacking and doing all this shit But hey like that is a bloggers outfit Look at that 80s haircut he's got too Just the coif Another 80s thing right yeah yeah cock the gun i'm not gonna hurt you and also just like
Starting point is 00:38:12 we hate russia make everyone sound russian because we're in the cold war that's i remember when we would play like army or whatever it would be like the russians were always the bad guys of course yeah when i was growing up it was like sort of north korea for being on really yeah people would play i mean i rarely played war but i remember it was always that red dawn thing like north korea's invading right we have vietnam and i even know what vietnam was and we would say like we're in vietnam didn't know where the planet was didn't know what kind of people live there oh such a great moment john mcclain being a lefty makes perfect sense, too. And I'm not a pro-lefty guy.
Starting point is 00:38:46 I don't like lefties. I don't trust them. Oh, Clem. Are you a lefty? When I write, yeah. Oh, this is awkward. Everything else I do, I'm a righty. But when I'm writing, I'm a lefty.
Starting point is 00:38:55 I don't know. Which is the most inconvenient thing ever for when you're growing up in school. Definitely. Yeah. The smudges on your arm. The smudges. The desks aren't made for us. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:03 We're highly discriminated against. But like lefty, I always think scrappy. If you're a lefty, you're scrappy. Now, you're only lefty with writing, but lefty in all facets of life, you're scrappy, which makes perfect sense for McClain, who is like my hero. And what a way to glog your first kill is just straight up falling on the guy and cracking his neck. My buddy shoots shotgun righty, but she's bow and arrow lefty and i just
Starting point is 00:39:28 think that's weird because it's like weird yeah it feels like it should be the same thing it feels like golfing lefty and playing hockey righty or something exactly yep which i think some people could do i bet yeah i think yp might be like that i could see that a lot of hockey players like i feel like the best hockey players are lefty yeah Yeah, I think so. Because I remember playing NHL 94, which I love that game. Such a great game. They were always – Look at this. It looks like a wheel of fortune.
Starting point is 00:39:50 See that? This is where the tech really starts hurting. But hey, I've never seen the inside of a million, billion-dollar vault. So I might as well say what it looks like. Bitch your ass. I wish the person – Some safety goggles from Miss Berrios' seventh grade science class. That was the real name of my teacher.
Starting point is 00:40:09 I really didn't like her. Miss Berrios? Miss Berrios. Miss Berrios. She was the worst. My sixth grade science teacher was Miss Sabaro and I was in love with her. It was probably my first crush. I don't think I ever had a teacher where I was like, oh, Van Halen-y honor.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Hot for teacher. Yeah. I don't think so ever had a teacher where I was like, oh, Van Halen-y honor. Hot for teacher. Yeah. I don't think so. I think there was maybe two. She was – I mean, it wasn't even like hot for teacher. It was just love. I just want to love you. That's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:40:34 You're a romantic. Sixth grade, you have hormones going through you. She was actually a really nice teacher. I wonder what she's up to nowadays. Yeah. And that's the thing is like I went – so Sienna goes to the elementary school I went to and there's like one or two teachers still there and they were the young young ones we were there so they're probably like ready to retire soon i'm like damn man yeah i went to the school that like my parents and my sister went to so i had the same kind of thing where it was like oh i knew your dad oh i knew your sister yeah you're just hoping like they didn't they
Starting point is 00:41:02 weren't bad kids or whatever like yeah i mean i had one teacher my film teacher where i went in it was my freshman year film i was like this is great maybe my sophomore year and my mom was like just a heads up uh your dad slashed his tires when they were in high school and he's very aware of that and i was like okay well starting with a disadvantage first and 20 basically wound up loving me though and by the end of the class i assigned the final which was he was like was like, can you hang after class one day? I was like, yeah, sure. He's like, I don't know what movie I want you guys to rate an essay for the final. He's like, I want a movie that everyone could genuinely enjoy but like a truly good film.
Starting point is 00:41:38 I don't know what appeals to the high school kids, this, that. I chose Good Will Hunting. Oh, that's a good one. I thought that was a good one. That's one of my favorites. I watched that too late in life. Like I didn't watch that when it came out and I watched it. I love it.
Starting point is 00:41:48 But I wish I had seen it when it had come out and the apples became such a big phrase and whatever. And I knew the whole Damon and Affleck story was such a big deal. I like Good Will Hunting a lot. It's one of my favorite movies. But weirdly, I really dislike the score of that movie, which is a Danny Elfman score. I love Danny Elfman. But I don't know. Everything about like the weird intro, the long intro to that movie, I don dislike the score of that movie, which is a Danny Elfman score. I love Danny Elfman, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Everything about the weird intro, the long intro to that movie, I don't like it. I think I might be with you on that. I have to rewatch it to make sure. If you rewatch it, you'll feel that way. I mean, there's a classic diehard moment. Again, this is where you realize McClane's not only smart by doing the whole elevator trick and fighting out the names,
Starting point is 00:42:24 but just pissing them off with such a fucked up thing to do. I wanted to make this as a Christmas sweater, just a ho, ho, ho. But we live in America in 2019. It doesn't really fly anymore. My buddy actually, for Die Hard. Man, I didn't even think about that, but that's true. Yeah, it's a problem. My buddy, I think we saw Die Hard in the theaters.
Starting point is 00:42:43 They had it at Alamo. They re-released it. Oh, nice. And he made a homemade one of those. Oh, that's great. It's me problem my buddy i think we saw die hard in the theaters like they had an alamo like they re-released oh nice and he made a homemade one of those oh that's great it's me and my buddy viv that's like an acceptable uh acceptable place to wear yeah it's like but just don't get caught like on the way home to or from there it could be i know if you're outside the movie the movie radius of like two blocks it's gonna get off i have a shirt that just simply says boner it's the only thing the have a shirt that just simply says boner it's the only thing the whole shirt says a black shirt and a big bold red letter says boner it's an all-time low shirt they're they're my favorite band okay and they're just they're very much like
Starting point is 00:43:13 blink 182 in that they have like a bunch of cheesy humor and a bunch of masturbating jokes during their show it's funny but it's it's very uh not cheesy is not the word like elementary humor yes and i bought that shirt at warp tour like hid it from my mom for years. And then eventually I was like – got the job here. I was like, oh, this would be a funny shirt to wear to work. And I wore it to work and then in the summer and I got on the subway. I was getting a bunch of weird looks and I was like, oh, fuck. I should have wore a sweatshirt over this.
Starting point is 00:43:38 What did your mom say when she saw it? And give me the Mama Fox voice. She actually like presented it. Like I got caught, quote-unquote, but it was like two years later. She was like, hey, Rob, I found this. Is this yours? Were you hiding this from me? And I was like, yes.
Starting point is 00:43:52 She's like, why? I don't care. I'll throw it in the wash. I was like, all right. She's like, you're never wearing this to school. I was like, all right, fair. And now she's asking for Joe Rogan podcast. Yes, yes, literally.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Shout out Mama Fox. She is the best. My guy McClane doing that thing with these tallying up the terrorists getting the names down more tits we got some more titties yeah like i know like we've caught sienna where we're like she has lunch ticket or like lunch at school and money she can buy it and we saw she bought an ice cream once and we're like did you no and then we're like sienna we have it right here you get it she's like i thought it was free and it's like i know like that's the thing when you have kids you'll
Starting point is 00:44:33 understand like they're just gonna do stupid shit yeah we're gonna get boner shirts everyone does stupid shit yeah and then i wound up wearing that boner shirt to bring it full circle on stage at pop punk's first show oh there we. It was the perfect shirt for Pop Punk. We're the same way. So for everyone who went there, that was a little Easter egg for everyone who saw it. Now you know the origin story of that shirt. Yeah, exactly. That's how you know your ex-husband's
Starting point is 00:44:55 an asshole, is when a bunch of angry Europeans are like, oh, that's my dickhead ex-husband who's just driving them crazy right now. And this guy is just like, oh man, I can't compete with that shit. Yeah. Yeah. I got a fucking New York City cop that is taking down terrorists one at a time and writing clever phrases on their dead shirts.
Starting point is 00:45:12 He's already thinking of his exit plan to get out of that relationship. He said he had baggage. I didn't realize there was this much baggage. Yeah. When you see the ex-husband or the estranged husband show up, you're hoping he looks like me, just some fluffy fucking happy-go-lucky idiot, not like John McClane, the most badass human in the universe. McClane walks in, smokes a cig, leans on the wall the way, leans on you like, oh, fuck. You want to be friends? I've then tried to become friends with him instead of becoming like hooking up with her.
Starting point is 00:45:39 I just want to be friends with John mclean fucking chess match of wits right here it is a chess match yeah that's the best way to put it 21 21 avenue is that the real address that's a good question i don't know it's my favorite number 21 though so it's kind of because of that no may 21st oh got it because my favorite number is 37 based on clerks so i thought maybe you had the same i wish i wish i if that would be a deep pull if that was how my favorite yeah just pull it yeah die hard you know the address 20 or 29 you don't know that yet it's a good cool May 21st, Biggie, Mr. T, Breonna Banks, who's like a 2000s porn star, and someone else who's random, Josh Hamilton. I think, did we go over your birthday? Yeah, we have. And it's a –
Starting point is 00:46:36 It's Tom Hanks. It's OJ Simpson. It's Kevin Lash from the WWE. What a fucking squad. Yeah. What a fucking squad. That's the best part where he's like, send the fucking police down here and get me. And then you have the thing. I'm ordering a pizza lady.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Three coming after him right now could be an 80s hair metal band. Yeah. Another Christmas tree right there. No big deal. Now, at this point. What an introduction here. Yeah, we get another great supporting character. And at this point, this is. Now, I watched this after 88.
Starting point is 00:47:18 This is Carl Winslow to me. Who is it? Completely Carl Winslow. Completely Carl Winslow. And like even them introducing him by being like, he's a husky guy. He sure loves him some Twinkies. He loves him Twinkies. This guy has some nerve talking to a cop like that.
Starting point is 00:47:34 He donates. What a guy. So off the bat we know Carl likes his sweets, has a pregnant wife at home, which pregnant wife at home usually means a death sentence in an 80s movie. Yeah. The last day on the force if we found that trigger himself something about those old cop cars are also just way cooler i was gonna say i feel like we're gonna have a throwback in cop cars in the next 10 years we should everything else gets rebooted yeah i
Starting point is 00:47:59 went to um what i see the other day uh the mr rogers movie oh what'd you think i liked it i liked it a lot we We left the theater. 13 of the 15 movie posters were either sequels, prequels, or like a remake of a classic story. Yeah. So it's like, let's just bring the cop cars back. Let's just do the whole thing. Just make life. Just throw back to nostalgia.
Starting point is 00:48:17 And I go so back and forth on stuff like that because I don't like that and I want the original stories. But at the same time, I eat up all the nostalgia shit. Yeah, you go to all the shit, right? So it's like, I don't know, man, I'm part of the problem. It's because the guys like us are buying the movie tickets. Yeah. They know it works. And that's why I feel like Die Hard is going to be inevitable at some point.
Starting point is 00:48:36 It's like if you're going to do the prequel, you're going to do the Hans Gruber origin story, just do it right. And I can live with it if it's done right. Like Watchmen, I loved the Watchmen TV show. So it's like you did it right and i can live with it if it's done right like watchmen i loved the watchman tv show so it's like you did it right and i guess people didn't like the movie but the people like the comics i think some of them would like the um the show and people go back on back and forth too and some people say i saw someone reference this about watchmen and star wars and i thought it was actually i think they meant it as a dig at star wars but i didn't interpret that interpret it that way at all and I agreed with it. They said, I think what made Watchmen so great as opposed to the new Star Wars trilogy – this was a person that didn't really enjoy the sequel trilogy.
Starting point is 00:49:12 They said Watchmen felt like it was done for the story and Star Wars felt like it was done for the audience. And I was like, you know what? I think that's a really good way to put it, and I don't think they were trying to hide anything by making the sequel trilogy for the audience. This was about passing on this to a new generation. It did literally, like, I don't know if Luke would be as into Star Wars if he didn't have these new movies that look new and have BB-8 and, you know, the marketing. He sees posters for it everywhere. So I think there's two sides to it. I think that's a good way to put it, though.
Starting point is 00:49:43 I think some things are made for the story where it's like, damn, if we did a Watchmen sequel, we did it right. That would be fucking unreal, wouldn't it? And then some things, they're like, why don't we carry on the legacy and celebrate the legacy of X? Yep. And sometimes that's Star Wars. And I don't think that's a bad thing, but it's certainly a different thing. And, again, Disney bought it. They make money with it.
Starting point is 00:50:03 If they didn't buy it, it just probably Would just peter out and may have Something Star Wars in the future but anything that Comes from it whether the Mandalorian Any other movies or TV shows in the future like the fact that these Movies kind of gave it new life Now it's something to be said yeah I like how we've like there they went back to the girl with the boobs and he says hi to her.
Starting point is 00:50:28 You feel like you're there with McClane because you're going around and you're like, all right, we've been here before. This seems a little crazy to me. Every Hollywood movie, you'd be like, that's a little too Hollywood for me. The fact that it holds him up. But again, who am I to question John McClane? I believe he did this stunt himself. I think a lot of the stunts in this movie were done by him, right?
Starting point is 00:51:08 Yeah, and I think that he fucked up on it and they kept it in because they're like, that's a normal guy. There's a few facts on this page about the elevator shaft scene. Let me see if I could pull any up. This is so hard to do. Someone that barely could do a pull-up. Did you have presidential and national physical fitness? We did. I hated that shit.
Starting point is 00:51:30 We did. That was always incredibly annoying. Yep. Embarrassing, annoying, whatever. I couldn't do a pull-up. That was my one thing I could never do. I could – Yeah, I was never good at pull-ups.
Starting point is 00:51:40 I could always do one or two and then you do the hold yourself there for a few seconds. You do the reach on your toes. That was always my least favorite because my hamstrings are just horrible. You got to run a mile. I was always very slow. I always had – I just had shitty lungs. I didn't have asthma but I never had my wind. I just – my entire life.
Starting point is 00:51:57 If I had – I just – if I could have one thing in life that's like attainable, just give me a wind and I could run for hours. I'm with that because I don't have wind either. And that's probably just because I never work out. Trista was just doing New Year's resolutions. And I said, fuck it. I'll make mine go to the gym more often. I said three times a week. Maybe I could accomplish that. I don't think I will accomplish that.
Starting point is 00:52:14 But I'm being optimistic for now. Maybe I will. Let's get our wind. Imagine fucking we get our wind. If we get our wind, nothing can stop us. Imagine we go Kumail. We're just fucking jacked next year, the two of us. If fucking Dinesh can do it, anyone can do it.
Starting point is 00:52:28 I mean, he also has Marvel's back. It could just be a new thing for nerds. You know what I mean? Like, just everyone gets jacked. Nerds became cool because they're like— That would be fucking dangerous, though, because tell you what, there are some nerds that shouldn't have that power. They should not attain that power. There's a lot of angst inside from over the years.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Iconic moment right here. Incredibly. My wife made it. Probably the most from this movie. I'd say this is probably like if you see a deconstructed picture, it's always that. Come out to the coast. Have a few laughs. Like just one-liners out the ass.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Two things John McClane can do. One, not die. Two, one-liners. That's the two things he does. And three, gets his girl back in the end, kind of. That's actually one thing he can't do Yeah He always fucks that up
Starting point is 00:53:06 Because he's a knucklehead I love him But it's Yeah it sort of makes him more lovable It's like You know And he gets the girl It's like
Starting point is 00:53:13 With John McClane He kind of fucks it up And you'll have to pay attention next time To see if he gets another girl He never shoots himself in the foot Unless it's with the girl Then he shoots himself in the foot Yeah
Starting point is 00:53:21 This I couldn't imagine seeing this in the theater i mean this is a moment right here tension city i sometimes get a little tense when i see that last one pop up even the scene that we just watched where he's in the elevator and they have that shot of the gun slowly like but surely coming off the ledge oh that really gets the heart rate pump tingles yeah it's like, I was that close to dying. And again, that Takagi scene kind of sets up that, hey, he might just start shooting this guy right here on the spot. You don't know what the fuck.
Starting point is 00:53:59 And there's certain movies like Wolf of Wall Street feels like this. You start that movie and it's like you're just on a fucking from the time it starts to the time it ends, you're just on a ride. Yes. And this is the same kind of thing. I'm with you. And it helps that it's over one night. Yes. I love movies that take place over one day, one night, one this, one that.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Cloverfield, one of my favorite monster movies ever, that takes place over one night. And every time I watch that, I feel exhausted. I'm like jesus christ i've been running away from this monster for how long now it's a good burn yeah that's what we're gonna be saying when we get our win this year yes boobs boobs feet are getting a little mucked up here shirt's all dirty yeah that's the best that it just keeps getting more and more like bloody dirty the whole time i mean that was that was a white wife beater just like 15 minutes ago
Starting point is 00:54:50 maybe we get the blood back in it i mean it's all it's just not a very good scene right here in nakatomi it's funny how your heart can feel two ways when you see a cop like when you're in your teens that you're having at a, it's like, oh! And when you're in a thing full of people that kill people, you're like, yes, a cop is here. Another Home Alone-esque scene, actually. Where it's like a cop drive by and it's like, yeah, nothing's going on. It looks pretty normal in there. Everything's checked out.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Yeah. This came out in 88. Everything's checked out. Yeah. This came out in 88. Home Alone came out in 90. If I had to guess, I'd say Home Alone came out like five years after Die Hard. Home Alone's probably, you know, they were like, let's make Die Hard, but a kid version. Yeah, kid. That's a good point. I didn't even think.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Kevin McAllister is a little John McClane. That is. Imagine a connected universe. It's the kid version of Die Hard. You just, I never thought of that john mclean accidentally left kevin mcallister at home while he's at nakatomi kevin mclean mcallister house all-time movie house like top five wish i lived in that house maybe top one maybe top one just even the attic is nice and it's not even like a fully done attic but it's
Starting point is 00:56:02 nice enough that you could live there like he sleeps there for you want to know what i thought was the coolest thing about that house as a kid it's it's such a strange thing but his like uh laundry chute or garbage chute whatever that was when he puts the action figures on it and shoots him down yep i was always like i wish i had that because i could have like darth vader throw the emperor down that or something like i swear because i would always have him throw the emperor downstairs or something you know off a dresser. I was always like, damn, if I had that, that would be like a real thing where I could throw him down and I'd be like, I don't know where he is. I don't see him.
Starting point is 00:56:30 And then I could go get him in the basement. What Bob is doing. Bob, you got to stop throwing Bob. I've watched him three times this week. The bad version of Mama Fox. No, no. You kind of nailed it with that. You knew that was coming sooner or later on this show.
Starting point is 00:56:45 This whole upcoming scene is one of my favorite scenes in the movie. He's under the table sliding. You're my table. All the different accents are so great. Again, I imagine in the 80s when it wasn't just obviously Russia, but it was also East Germany was part of Russia. Just Europeans were the enemy that didn't like speak you know English maybe French or whatever but Germans
Starting point is 00:57:10 and Russians are basically the enemy now that is always we'll go over that when that happens but the game and I love that every interaction he has with one of these guys goes differently you know what I mean he's never it's never feels repetitive this is so great right here And I love that every interaction he has with one of these guys goes differently. You know what I mean? It never feels repetitive.
Starting point is 00:57:29 This is so great right here. This is on Christmas Eve, too, and you got your pregnant wife at home. You're probably like, fuck this. I'm with you, pal. Great line delivery. You know he's having a few of those twinkies let's be honest this is so great poor choice of words poor choice of words caught a monologuing fucking lights them up too john
Starting point is 00:58:09 mclean maybe save your bullets thanks for the advice what a lot just perfectly action movies the fact that notre dame and usc are playing on christmas eve that's always one of those things that shatter because they would never play it would be either a bowl game oh really new year's or the college football season is over at this point. And that always bothers me. And I always try to convince myself that either A, it's like on whatever ESPN Classic was in the 80s, which didn't exist. Or B, that something happened that causes. That's your big suspension of disbelief.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Yes, that is not killing 100 terrorists by yourself. It really hurts. I guess that guy that they stationed at the desk had to be American, though, right? So he could throw the cops off? Yeah. I feel like he probably can just switch his accent. Turn it on. I feel like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:55 I love that that's what he came up with as the way to get the cop to, you know. Hey, it worked. Yep. Another iconic. Yep. Another iconic. Yeah. There's, I mean, there's probably 10 or so iconic lines. Yeah. Even if you count like lines slash moments.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Yeah. Like him in the vents. That's like a moment more than it is a line. my sweet poor Al I know jeez dude where this movie really shines is the people
Starting point is 00:59:39 he just called just the cops the FBI agents the sleazy reporters it is all straight out of the 80s yeah wolfgang wolfgang wolfgang puck he's had staying power forever i don't even know if he's still alive i feel like he was a big thing for pretty restaurants right yeah literally wolfgang
Starting point is 00:59:58 puck just became a restaurant just became an a chain place. I always used to confuse that for such a weird thing that I would confuse as a kid. But every time I saw one of those places, I would go, the one-man gang. I would be like, what? And I was like, oh, wait. No, that's not what I'm thinking. Very different. He's a WWF wrestler.
Starting point is 01:00:21 Yeah, the one-man gang. I don't know why that was my confusion. But every time I saw Wolfgang Puck, I was like, one-man gang. I could kind of see it. The what gang? Yeah, yeah. A little foreshadowing there, inevitable. Another thing that's the best about Hans Gruber is stay calm. He is calm, cool, collected pretty much throughout.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Yep. And John is just always just pulling his strings, trying to piss him off. I wonder what that shirt was, by the way, that he's wearing right now. Like on the set, did they dirty up his shirt? Or did they just give him like a brown guinea tea at this point? They're like, it's dirty. They're like, here, swap out the nice one for the dirty one. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Because he's sweaty the whole time. It must have been like kind of – I hate feeling sweaty or wet or gross or bloody or whatever. It must have been gross feeling filming this movie. I would say they probably had to do it that way. If they filmed the Hans scene first where he catches Hans or whatever, he gets hurt, he is wearing – he's dirty at that point. Then he went back if they – unless, I don't know, they did the McClane scenes, but I feel like that's how it had to be. Another Sig just looking as cool as he possibly could look.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Very blatantly labeled C4. And bold and times in your romance. C4. I still don't know what the fuck C4 does. I just know it blows the fuck up. It's a controlled explosive of some sort. It's like when you see like a stick of dynamite in the movie. It's like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Might as well just have a stick of dynamite in his hands. Exactly. Should have done it, Hans. Looking back, that's all Hans had to do. John wouldn't have left, but that would have been worth the... Shout out Roy Rogers getting a shout out in this movie, though, because I only knew him as the fast food guy. Did you ever have Roy Rogers getting a shout out in this movie though because I only knew him as the fast food guy. Did you ever have Roy Rogers?
Starting point is 01:02:30 No, never had. Never had it? I've heard of it. That was a little before your time. Yippee-ki-yay, motherfucker. And that's the line. There it is. My buddy got me – because if you ever watch this on TNT or cable, it says, Yippee-ki-yay, Mr. Falcon.
Starting point is 01:02:42 Oh, really? Is that a line? That's the edited version it's so weird and everybody took it out but i didn't know they put in mr falcon that's like a bad lip reading and it's like what the fuck does that even mean like you couldn't think of anything mother trucker you couldn't do that even in the mandalorian this morning which we'll have a recap for eventually i don't even know how that'll line up schedule wise but they say uh mud scuffer and i was like oh that's gotta be star wars motherfucker mud scuffer and I was like, oh, that's got to be Star Wars motherfucker. Mud scuffer, that's right.
Starting point is 01:03:08 But yeah, Mr. Falcon, what are you doing? My coffee mug says, yippee-ki-yay, Mr. Falcon. I love hearing Hans Gruber over the phone too. It's a weird thing but the slight voice distortion that the phone gives it just makes it more villainous. Yep, you're right. And that obviously multiplies in with the vengeance oh shady got the seaport motherfucker he got the detonators He detonated us. And a lot of the explosions in this movie were legit.
Starting point is 01:03:49 Oh, really? They don't have explosions in TG-988. So they had to do a lot of stuff on-site, off-site. I read that on IMDb, too. I like their little witty banter with each other. You didn't bring me here for my personality? John doesn't look more badass than he does at this moment. I know. He just looks strong.
Starting point is 01:04:27 He's not worn down at this point. I read you, pal. Not frantic at all. He's giving the whole breakdown. God bless him. So com-cool collected. Unreal. Even as he's telling the police all of the information hans is like yep we're good we're good trust the process that's the kind of guy like you go to war for i if i had hans gruber as my boss i guess even dave again not to suck dave's dick here but like
Starting point is 01:05:00 dave never i'm sure there's times dave was like oh shit we might be in trouble here but he i've never seen it nobody yeah i mean the the one that i remember thinking of where i was just like damn what a fucking leader was after van talk got canceled yep remember that was like a moment where we were all bummed we were like fuck that's such a big especially like for those of us that are like really good friends with pft and big cat and hank it's like such a big moment for them gets canceled. The next day or that day, Dave gave that emergency press conference that like hyped us all. We were ready to go to war.
Starting point is 01:05:31 We're like, fuck it. This is going to be better for us. And it wound up I think being better for everyone all around. I think PMT, I think probably ESPN. It's probably good that that partnership went awry early because it would have done it later. It would have been uglier if possible, right? But that moment I i remember being like god damn dave fucking knows how to rally the troops i was there that happened in the office that day and there was like a like it was like in the building you feel it and it was just like what the fuck and those guys were the pmt guys obviously weren't there they were taping and like all i could think about was just how bad like i felt
Starting point is 01:06:00 so sorry for him and dave did what dave Dave does and Dave is usually right in the end. There's a reason why we are where we are, where we're watching Die Hard for fun. I know. That's our job. This is literally – what is it? It's 1.44 PM on a workday and we're sitting in a room watching Die Hard. And it's because of the people listening. That's the reason we could do this all.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Absolutely. I'll shadow you guys. Keep rating, reviewing, subscribing and all that jazz. I won't ask too much. It is a Christmas episode. We should be all about giving, but we would appreciate it. A little trivia here. That guy right there is Ricky from Die Hard 3.
Starting point is 01:06:32 He's the same cop in this one. Yep. He's the little cop in the background there. I mean, what's this guy's name in Breakfast Club? You mess with the bull, you get the horns, Mr. What is his name? Don't mess with the bull. I have the thing right here.
Starting point is 01:06:55 He was the principal. Was it the principal? No, he wasn't the principal. He had a name, definitely. He's Dwayne T. Robinson. I love that he has the stupid middle initial, too. What a cocksucker. That's his Breakfast Club name?
Starting point is 01:07:07 No, no, that's his diehard name. Paul Gleason is the actor. Richard Vernon. Yeah, Vernon. Principal Vernon. He's been in a bunch of stuff, hasn't he? Even more than this? He was in Van Wilder.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Yeah, he was great in Van Wilder. He was in an episode of George Lopez. He had an episode of Drake and Josh. Malcolm in the Middle. Dawson's Creek. Man, he looked like later in his career became mostly a TV actor. He's in Seidel. That's Cushman.
Starting point is 01:07:36 Oh, he actually passed away. Rest in peace. R.I.P. Little sad thing there. Passed away in 2006. That's a legend. I mean, that guy owned the 80s. Absolutely. Even just
Starting point is 01:07:48 these two roles. Now, Mrs. McClain being the badass bitch that could face the terrorist down. That makes perfect sense. If you marry John McClain, this ain't your first rodeo. Straight up Princess Leia talking to Darth Vader. Yes! Yes! Good call, Bob. Good call.
Starting point is 01:08:04 We got a fist bump there live in the studio. That was a live fist bump. I also think Rogue One makes, not to create this and make this a Star Wars podcast because we've brought it up a few times, but I do think Rogue One makes that scene so much better. Oh, yeah. Because it just makes Leia all the more badass and like – he knows that the transmission is on that ship. He's positive. He followed it getting there and watched it with his own two eyes get there. And she's just like, yeah, we don't have it.
Starting point is 01:08:32 We're on a diplomatic mission. Sorry. He just killed like ten people in gruesome fashion. Yeah, and she – no fear at all. That's a little Jamesames bonds of her right yeah and we have the obviously the photo behind and we're all worried about that by the way the pregnant lady imagine being a pregnant lady during this shit how you didn't go into labor at any point in this yeah really especially around like it's christmas eve like
Starting point is 01:09:04 the tension and the stress is already probably high. You know, thinking, oh, we got to get to the family party. We got to get this. Make sure this is in place for this. And you're pregnant. And then you hear that. Oh, my God. Shout out, Ginny.
Starting point is 01:09:15 I wonder that baby that has it. That's a hell of a story. Yeah. I was in utero. That drink went from one drink to another Went from celebratory to fucking Drink to forget Yeah we're in some deep shit now
Starting point is 01:09:29 By the way that reporter Thornborg A plus Another 80 Like there's like just great 80s characters Like when in Ghostbusters Yes Heck he is such a cocksucker.
Starting point is 01:09:46 He might be my least favorite character of all time. Like the peak. I never hated a character more than I hated him. Are you a big Ghostbusters guy? Ghostbusters was my favorite movie until probably about Die Hard time. Wow. That's probably what disreplaced. Let's do some Ghostbusters episodes before the new one.
Starting point is 01:10:02 Yes, for sure. Do you like the trailer for the new one? Yes. what disreplaced let's do some ghostbusters episodes before the new one yes for sure do you like the trailer for the new one yes and actually the thing that that those fucking losers were like oh bobby barstool how crazy was that they they their lives are to hate us and as our company just grows and crushes all their favorite companies let them hate that made it move that gave me like goosebumps seeing it and it was just all i tweeted i said it gave me goosebumps like seeing like they were talking about the ghostbusters like like fucking people talk about luke skywalker in the sequel trilogy they were like paul rudd's like oh these guys were legends and they show them the news clips like that like could give me chills thinking about it give me
Starting point is 01:10:34 all the like footage that hit the you know cutting room floor that you can just say as like a news broadcast and like that that first movie the second movie was like a little disappointing for me but it was still i still liked it but i loved ghostbusters and i didn't understand half the peter bankman jokes basically you know there's a lot of stuff for a there's a lot of stuff that goes over here you even see the the answer the call the all-female ghostbusters movie no i didn't watch it i didn't even give that one a shot if i'm being honest sorry but i i heard it was no good and it's not because, don't get on us, deadspin.
Starting point is 01:11:06 These are sexist. They didn't even give it a shot. I would have given it a shot. I like most of the actresses in it. I just heard very bad things. And that was the thing, is I liked a lot of the actresses in it. And I think I said at the time.
Starting point is 01:11:16 I think Kristen Wiig and Kate McKinnon are fucking hysterical. We said we look forward to Wonder Woman because Kristen Wiig. Yes. She could be really good in it. Yes. I mean, Bridesmaids is, I think,
Starting point is 01:11:24 one of the funniest comedies of, like, the 2000s. Yeah. And she's one of the best SNL cast members of, like, the recent, you know, generation of them. But, yeah. If you have a bad movie, that is also a movie that was after one of the movies I loved. Nah. And at that point, I really didn't have time to see movies.
Starting point is 01:11:39 I think that was around the time I started having kids, so. Also, this one being Reitman being, like, I'm going to write the wrong that the last one was like reitman's son being like i'm gonna you know basically recorrect my father's biggest legacy that's the family business also another great uh movies that made us the ghostbusters one might have been my favorite i gotta get into those i haven't watched any of the four episodes you'll love it because it's die hard ghostbusters home alone dirty dancing and even even as a dude you gotta you to give it up to Dirty Dancing. Oh, with respect. Shout out my guy.
Starting point is 01:12:07 Another RIP in peace. Yeah, Patrick Swayze. Great scene, at least. Oh, my guy, Uli. What did I say about this guy? I said this in the blog. I rated all the characters, and I was like, Uli steals every scene he's in and makes the most out of every minute of screen time.
Starting point is 01:12:23 All that and A-plus facial hair makes him a first ballot inducted to the bit character movie hall of fame alongside samuel jackson jurassic park the baby from roger rabbit and john candy and home alone like look at this just what a moment he's just there the moment before where they were throwing this shit to each other on the roof he's taping shit down on the ceiling or whatever i mean like that guy has a look like oh yeah oh he's here. That was the 80s. Like, here's our Asian. Yeah, here's our Asian guy. He is a Fu Manchu. Yes.
Starting point is 01:12:51 But, like, little. He's probably from, like, Hawaii, too. He's probably a Yokozuna deal, you know? Definitely no way he's actually from. Yokozuna. That blew my mind when I found out that he wasn't Japanese. As American as it gets. Uli. When I found out that he wasn't Japanese. As American as it gets. Ooli.
Starting point is 01:13:09 Al Long is his name. L-E-O-N-G, though. And he is from... I don't have a... His nickname is Al... His nicknames are Al, Kabong, and Chonky. I don't have a... His nickname is Al. His nicknames are Al, Kabong, and Chonky. That last one seems like one letter away from being pretty problematic.
Starting point is 01:13:34 Yes, very much so. Is that a mugshot that just came up? I think it was, Rob. I'm not happy about that. We're going to have to find out why he got arrested. See if there's illegal troubles on his Wikipedia. Clem just looked up his name. He was born in St. Louis, Missouri. There you go. Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 01:13:49 A little Midwestern dude. I wonder if that mugshot is where Trent got his mugshot. Same place. You won't like that. Ricochet at Trent's mugshot. That's because he says mints should stay in the kitchen, yet Trent got arrested for drinking too much rumple mints. That gets me upset. True.
Starting point is 01:14:05 Chinese-American parents grew up behind the Chinese laundry that they owned. Go back. See if you could find... Fuck. He had brain cancer in 93 and suffered a stroke in 2005. Oh, sad. And is he alive? Looks like it.
Starting point is 01:14:21 Shooting the lights. Another great line. Is this a mugshot? Oh, it looks like multiple mugshots. I think that's just his character, though. Do you think he just takes headshots against blank walls a ton? Because there's... I don't know how interesting this is for the people at home, but we're looking it up and I'm fascinated.
Starting point is 01:14:47 No, it doesn't look like it is a mugshot. If you look up Al Long, how do you spell that? L-E-O-N-G. The first two pictures that come up both look like mugshots. Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, Die Hard, Lethal Weapon, Big Trouble in Little China. Dude just has fucking heavy hair. You know, I've never seen Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, Die Hard, Lethal Weapon, Big Trouble in Little China. Dude just has fucking heavy hair. You know, I've never seen Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. Neither have I.
Starting point is 01:15:09 I bet I would like it. Seems like a stoner comedy, 90s thing. The new one's coming out soon. Yeah, let's check that out. Send in the car. Send in the car. You've got to just love the blockhead police of the 80s. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:26 It's tough to look badass wheeling that thing. Just casually throwing rocket launchers around. I wouldn't like put my base down that rough toss in an RPG. You know what was a classic thing about the 80s too was all rocket launchers were bazookas. Yes. That's a great thing. Like everything, the Joker and the cartoons, I always think back to like the Joker would always have a bazooka in a comic book. Bazookas are so fucking awesome.
Starting point is 01:15:55 Awesome. Va schnell, va schnell. Just leave it. Leave the fucking rocket on the ground. Do you think these guys at this point are like, okay, we really didn't think we would have to go through all this shit. Yeah, it's like we're using the rocket launcher in the first half of the movie, Hans? I'm sure Hans is a good enough villain that he gave everyone the rundown on his crew. Like, all right, worst case scenario, we're going to have to fucking get some rocket launchers. We're going to have to fucking do this, this, this.
Starting point is 01:16:24 And I think these guys in the back of their minds were like, no, Hans is a genius. We won't have to do that. You're right. They're like, I'll be rocket launcher guy. But Hans, we're not going to have to use this, right? It's like, no. Hans, like at Christmas parties. This guy's a ponytail.
Starting point is 01:16:34 How hard could it be? Yeah. This guy, he'll fuck you up with a gun, but he won't fuck you up with a rocket launcher. Like this right here, five stars Grand Theft Auto. You're already at four. You do this. It's five. It is. And the helicopters come in and everything, as we're about to see. Oh, god damn it. So that's a real explosion there. right here five stars grand theft auto you're already at four you do this it's five and the
Starting point is 01:16:45 helicopters come in and everything as we're about to see oh god damn it so that's a real explosion there that's a real explosion yes another great line the quarterback is do you do you ever go to you remember why you're the man now dog ytmnd what it was uh it's a website And you just go to it And you go to like YTMND And then you just go to some sort of Whatever And there's this thing that just has a picture of a quarterback Drew Bledsoe and it's a picture of Toast And it just goes the quarterback is Toast
Starting point is 01:17:16 On loop and it was just weird internet Shit from way back in the day that was probably before your time Yeah there was a ton of those weird websites Where you could like Exactly the precursor to these Someone buys. It's like a meme website. Exactly. The precursor to the memes. Someone buys a domain as like a running joke. Exactly. The fact Hans hits it again, that's where you're like, oh, yeah, this guy is a shark, though.
Starting point is 01:17:34 He's fun. He's funny. He's calculating, but he's also a shark. Terrifying scenes. The scenes where characters are looking down over a big ledge always get me. I don't like looking down over big ledges. One of my least favorite things is just looking at someone washing windows or just going near a stadium and just seeing someone walking at the top or the flags. Who does the flags at Yankee Stadium?
Starting point is 01:17:55 Because that person's a psychopath. Psycho. Some adrenaline junkie that just wants to experience that hype. Even some young Donnie that we got here posts on his Instagram story sometimes. He loves going to buildings and looking at all the ledges and shit like that. Anyone named Donnie in this company is crazy. Agreed. In a good way.
Starting point is 01:18:18 We love him. Let me focus that. Oh, God, what a scene. I don't even know how that works with the computer. I don't know if the computer is necessary for that or if it's just weighing the C4, but it's incredible. John didn't think this side of it out, though. What an explosion. So I've got some cool stuff to add about that explosion when the bomb in the elevator shaft blows out the side of the building the effect was accomplished by a collecting virtually every camera flash bulb of a particular powerful
Starting point is 01:18:50 type in the los angeles area and wiring them on the outside of the actual building to stimulate the flash so you saw a bunch of flashes off those are actually light bulbs and b superimposing a shot of an actual explosive blowing a hole in a wall of an all-black miniature of the building at the appropriate location. So it was a mix of literally a miniature, and they shot the side of the building with just flashbulbs going off. Jesus. I mean, that— That stuff is more interesting to me than, like, how did they make Thanos? It's like a fucking computer.
Starting point is 01:19:21 Like, a guy designed him. No. This is, like, some crafty shit from the old school CGI department. That's some miniature. The flashbulbs. Someone had to think of that like crazy. That's some old school movie making magic kind of shit where it's like George Lucas, the way he did Star Wars.
Starting point is 01:19:38 And you just see it. It's incredible. Steven Spielberg, I feel like, had a lot of shit like back in the day when they didn't have the stuff that they have now very much so a ton of the stuff he did for even Indiana Jones like a ton of that stuff was revolutionary at the time Temple of Doom pulling the heart out of the chest there's some good stuff there
Starting point is 01:19:54 you just destroyed a building It is hard for McClane to feel sympathy for anybody right now. And McClane's about to care about Glass, too. He doesn't even know. Yeah. I love he's almost Argyle's almost like our Entry to the movie He represents the viewer He's us
Starting point is 01:20:42 People named Dwayne They took some lumps in this one. It couldn't feel good. Dwayne wasn't an easy name to grow up with, I imagine. The Rock has made it cool, yeah. The Rock has definitely recorrected some stuff. I hated being a Justin as a kid because back in the 80s and 90s, there was no Timberlake to be cool, Bieber, Justin Tuck. It was just there was no Justins.
Starting point is 01:21:03 I'm trying to think. Did I have like a Robbie I don't think so yeah there's probably no Robbies either yeah Rob I never
Starting point is 01:21:11 yeah even when I was young though like now people call me Rob people call me Bob people call me whatever back then I was pretty much just Robbie just Robbie
Starting point is 01:21:17 and like to my family my family would call me Rob but like that's because they were just around me all the time no need to add the extra B to it
Starting point is 01:21:24 yeah but like that's because they were just around me all the time no need to add the extra b to it yeah oh and here he is the fucking wheeler and dealer coming in i forgot i don't know i forgot about ellis he's the best I hate this guy so much. Such a cocksucker. Such a... Ugh. And all Hans is stringing him along. Some poison pill booby i'm your white knight improvised line i believe is it oh god that makes it even better
Starting point is 01:22:38 that can't when i saw this in alamo when you go to a movie at alamo draft house or i guess anywhere that has like these old movies you're going with diehards right that move that line got delivered yeah well i got delivered place just started applauding i can give them to you just flashes the pearly whites there's ricky again i heard three mcclain doing that when he ate the Twinkie. He was just looking for a friend. He doesn't need to turn the mic on, turn the walkie-talkie on to let him know he doesn't like that Twinkie. Do you?
Starting point is 01:23:17 I feel like Twinkie. Remember when the internet went crazy because Twinkies were going away and then they brought them back because of the internet? But were they really going away? They say they were. Or were they just trying to hype up the Twinkie were going away and then they brought them back because of the internet. But were they really going away? They say they were. Or were they just trying to hype up the Twinkie hype? Yeah. I have to say, I was all pro-Twinkie, pro-Twinkie. I feel like no one eats Twinkies.
Starting point is 01:23:32 I feel like they brought them back and then no one ate Twinkies anymore. I went through a big Twinkie phase. Really? Like in high school. Yeah. I would love Twinkies. Like my mom would buy Twinkies to have in the house. Was that after they brought them back?
Starting point is 01:23:40 Yeah, I guess so because that was later. I remember I would come home from school and I and always crush a pack of Twinkies. I always liked the cupcakes more. You know, I never really liked the cupcakes, but I'm a huge fan of snowballs. Really? And I know people don't like coconut things. I'm not a snowball guy. I don't even like – that's the only coconut thing I'll eat.
Starting point is 01:23:58 But a good snowball, ooh, I might get one today. I've grown into loving coconut. I didn't like coconut as a kid But I'm enjoying now But you don't like snowballs? I don't like marshmallow I'm not a big marshmallow guy I am a big marshmallow guy My mom made me a cake once with marshmallow icing
Starting point is 01:24:15 It was delicious God damn, Mama Fox There's an Entenmann's cake with marshmallow icing That's maybe my favorite Yeah, my grandma used to get that too. It was her go-to. The fact that he tries to pawn this off as them being friends. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:31 Hey, John boy. And you're supposed to think he got the wife there. That's the whole thing. A friend you came to the party with. Capiche. I haven't used capiche in a while. Capiche. Yeah. Maybe we should bring it back.
Starting point is 01:24:58 I'm going to. I want to bring back schmuck capiche. I use schmuck. Yeah, I like schmuck. And now he's like, you're going to get my wife killed if you keep this up, you fucking schmuck. Yeah. Capiche? In case you got two for one.
Starting point is 01:25:14 I'm going to start weaving them in. I'm also trying to bring back 143. You know, I love you. That's what they used to say. I mean, that was probably before you died. Oh, because I-L-U with those numbers. Yeah, I-L-O-V and then Y-O-U. it's a rough look for coca-cola is it a rough look for coca-cola yeah it's a fine it's probably we'll have to have darren rovell how much that helped the brand
Starting point is 01:25:52 you're a pepsi guy though big pepsi guy hardcore i but it is the christmas season you get a Coca-Cola with the Santa on it. Yes. That would be nice if there was a Coca-Cola on that. That actually might have kind of ruined this for me now that I think about it. I wonder if there was Santa Claus back in the days. The movie is ruined. God damn it. My childhood. John McAleenan's German.
Starting point is 01:26:15 He's basically a Nazi officer, it turns out, Bruce Willis. He's so smooth oh no holly just lost her co-worker and her boss in like two hours, basically. I mean, that guy, I'm glad that. Yeah, oh yeah. But those are probably the two people she worked with most other than Ginny, the pregnant lady. Oh, Hans knows he has the radar up to him.
Starting point is 01:27:04 Go fuck yourself creating this little conflict yeah between the police force. You know, he's not doing the right thing. And it makes you like both John McClane and Carl Winslow more. Yes. I love the background extras too, just watching them in this scene. Just, oh yeah, he's up there. They're giving points to the building.
Starting point is 01:27:42 He's in the building. Yeah, yeah. There's a building up there. There're giving points to the building. He's in the building. There's a building up there. There's people. There's terrorists. And the fact they cast this asshole guy who plays the principal. If the roles were flipped, you'd be like, no, Carl's right. No center Carl Winslow.
Starting point is 01:28:00 John McClane's the bad guy. This guy, he comes off as a principal. Yeah, exactly. You should just call him Principal Dwayne T. Robinson. Yeah. Starts talking, and then as they're talking, they just remove the dead body. Cold-blooded. Get it? Because the blood is cold.
Starting point is 01:28:32 It's got a cold. Nice. I wonder if Asian Dawn Movement was actually a real thing. I'm going to look that up right now. Nope. Not real, damn it. There's actually an Asian Dawn t-shirt for sale. Asian Dawn Sri Lanka, inspired by Tara. It's actually kind of a decent shirt. Pretty good. That's a perfect way to make up fake demands.
Starting point is 01:29:24 You just watch 60 Minutes and you can probably get enough terrorist groups or whatever. Who cares? One more to go and it's up to you. And you better be right because it looks like this last one's going to take a miracle. This Christmas deal is top of mind. Another one.
Starting point is 01:29:44 Another Christmas. We have to just start listing out the parts that aren't Another one. Another Christmas. Another one. We have to just start listing out the ones that aren't Christmas references in this movie. Yeah, it would be easier. I also don't understand because the people that say Die Hard is not a Christmas movie are usually the people that aren't over the moon about Die Hard in the first place. Yeah. Then why do you care? Exactly.
Starting point is 01:30:00 Why do you care? I watch this movie around Christmas because it puts me in the spirit. Exactly. I watch Batman Returns around Christmas because it puts me in the spirit. Exactly. I watch Batman Returns around Christmas because it puts me in the spirit. Gremlins. Yes, Gremlins is another one. Like, if it was shot in New York and it snowed out, that's probably what it takes people. And at the end of the movie, it's snowing like all the papers and shit, which gives like the illusion of snow.
Starting point is 01:30:19 Even It's a Wonderful Life is barely a Christmas movie. Bob, you're talking my language. As usual. As usual. This is the awkward part of the movie. You're like, oh. Start talking about why he's not in the. it's supposed to be stockholm syndrome though which is funny because they fuck it up yeah and then he fucks up the correction which i think i i mean i know it has to be on purpose but
Starting point is 01:31:03 and there he goes cold blood fbi fbi is in like every 80s action movie oh yeah like they're always the FBI FBI is in like every 80s action movie oh yeah they're always the big guns they rank the police they always come in to be like this is our jurisdiction now
Starting point is 01:31:35 has the FBI ever done anything right in those movies I feel like they never come in and do it the right way no because it's always the rogue ex-agent that gets the job done you took me out of the force because you told me I was crazy No, because it's always the rogue ex-agent that gets the job done. You took me out of the force because you told me I was crazy. Who's crazy now? I'm in charge.
Starting point is 01:31:53 Not anymore. There's some more smoke. Yep, yep. I feel like flashlights have gone the way of the dodo bird. They've just disappeared. Yeah, because they threw them on the back of phones. Yeah, you don't need it anymore. I feel like when growing up, I know for a fact we used to have, like, four or five flashlights under the sink at all times for, like,
Starting point is 01:32:16 what if the power goes out? Yeah. Grab one of the flashlights. Now I don't even own one. I think my mom has them to, like, walk the dogs at night, but that's it. I like how we have the sirens outside. Give us a real diehard feel. Yeah. Shout out old business Pete.
Starting point is 01:32:37 We're at the fucking top of the plaza. Him leaving the gun down there is such a fucking rookie move by Hans. He's lucky. So I guess that's the scene, by the way, where he, yeah, there it is.
Starting point is 01:32:48 Leg right there. That little jump. So he goes one leg. The rest of the way up. He must go one leg. This is fucking brilliant. Fucking brilliant. how he could just change his voice like that too i know and the fact he thought of it ah even like think about his real voice
Starting point is 01:33:45 yeah greatest villain ever right there folks i do find i love these villains like thanos obviously my love of thanos is well documented on this problematic yep yep turns out took care of my dog were you a big uh like ozymandias guy oh yeah big time because he kind of has the same thanos plan yep one fbi agent always has to be smoking in an 80s movie too oh of course it's an unwritten rule yeah it's actually an upset that it's outdoors usually it's indoors it's in some kind of conference room you know these european cigarettes ain't doing it for johnny either he's like these things are weak actually european cigarettes might
Starting point is 01:34:36 be stronger i feel but they probably suck compared to the american shit full chemicals who knows they even sell i guess they do sell cigarettes still They definitely sell cigarettes still Yeah Oh big time I just haven't seen a cigarette Like cross my path I mean They don't sell them in like
Starting point is 01:34:51 Dwayne Reed's anymore Which is if you don't know that That's like a Walgreens That we have in the city and stuff What's your go to pharmacy Dwayne Reed Oh yeah in the city But I'm talking Jersey
Starting point is 01:35:01 Was Dwayne Reed Jersey No Probably CVS CVS too I love CVS i like a cvs way more than a duane reed there's just a duane reed closer to my apartment than there is a cvs i don't understand what duane reed has like it's lock on the city yeah it's weird there's a few places like that i feel like in the city i can't remember them off the top of my head right now but that are like i'll bring them up to people that aren't from here and they're like what are you talking about yep it's like oh i didn't realize that's
Starting point is 01:35:26 not a thing everywhere sienna's favorite store is cbs because she would always have she would always have ear infections as a kid so we'd always have to go get her medicine and uh we always had to go there and they had like a little like the little buggy you know like a little car that is like a shopping cart and she's like cbs favorite oh the fact he's like trying to get his name here and they're doing the whole thing he finds out john's not wearing shoes it's actually pretty incredible like this scene has a lot of like again the chest match here and here's where he's standing on one leg so it must be that's why he's leaning against the wall probably boys laid up playing hurt
Starting point is 01:36:06 clay bill clay in fact he goes bill instead of will it's just attention to detail oh you idiot you idiot You idiot.
Starting point is 01:36:49 That's the coolest puff right there. That is the coolest puff. Just about my fucking arch nemesis face to face. Well, well, well. Oh! Oh! You're saying? You're saying? Yeah, poor McClane. Whenever he just thinks he can just chill, has a buddy now, it's fucking full-blown gunfight.
Starting point is 01:37:42 Yeah, I know. This is maybe the best gunfight in the movie too yep because it is just an absolute spray and pray knees are getting exploded head through the glass that's one of the worst deaths of the movie that's saying something too but that's that's brutal especially you learn in reservoir dogs that the kneecap is the most painful spot in the body to get shot. That computer the size of just the biggest Christmas present under the tree. She's sin-festin' So I went to Alamo To watch this
Starting point is 01:38:34 And if people don't know Alamo is like It's like a movie theater You get food there Drinks, whatever Beer And they have like Before a movie
Starting point is 01:38:42 They'll usually have A little pre-show You know like Oh yeah Like half hour pre-show you know like oh yeah half hour trivia or something yep star wars they'll show some old commercials some are you going to alamo for rise of skywalker yeah i've gone to all three of the new sequels there cool um and they always do a really good thing they had like someone was flying a little millennium falcon around the place it's a real and then they have a special menu if it's like a big enough
Starting point is 01:39:01 movie like star wars obviously that's cool. Gets you like in the spirit. Exactly. And for Die Hard, they had like this like – I think it was an – I think Ben Stiller did like a parody of it. And they had just a lot of little sketches that were on, you know, like different – I'm sure like SNL or whatever. And it really was one of those movies that was like big enough to just have all these things done about it. Yeah. And like the glass is a culture in that time like literally every movie after this like we discussed in the beginning
Starting point is 01:39:29 of this podcast was like all right how can we do die hard but on this in that you know die hard but it's uh yeah i really want to make that threat level midnight style die hard at the old office now i don't know we got that as an empty building. We could have the same origin story. We could be like, oh, we were originally going to cast Tommy Smokes, but we wound up going with our John McClane. He could be our Frank Sinatra. And also, originally, Clint Eastwood had the rights to this. Did he?
Starting point is 01:40:01 In the early, early 80s, I think. It's great. Eastwood could have done it in his prime, but not, I mean, I don't know. It's hard to see anyone else. I think Stallone passed on it, right? Stallone and Schwarzenegger are on the list for the role as well, but it just doesn't work with those guys
Starting point is 01:40:17 because I think they're too... They don't play the underdog. Yeah, that's a good point. Scrappy, you know what I mean? It's a good point. I mean, I guess, you know, he plays fucking Rocky, the biggest underdog of all, but still, I don't know if it plays in an action movie. Especially when you're Rambo. You're already Rambo. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:35 He's fucking badass as fuck. He can't really do both. He's still alive. My asshole husband is still alive because he's pissing people off to this day. Now, if you've ever stepped on anything, this scene really plays. You can understand just how bad it is. Look at how much blood there is. Leaking, as the kids say. The funny thing is like no one's really done like this kind of thing with a vault where like it's always like hacking.
Starting point is 01:41:15 The fact it's like he's actually cutting it down as he's hacking, it makes it kind of like interesting. I always hated that line because I hate Philadelphia so much as a New York fan. And I'm like, damn, John likes Philadelphia. Oh, man, I can't even look at that. I got a splinter in my shoe once and like literally like – and it came through my skin and I was just in agony because I didn't realize it for the first like two steps. It was like, oh, that's – I got a rock in my shoe and you kind of like pat your shoe down hard to like get it out and I just drove that splinter into my foot and that's what I think of every time I see someone step on something now. Nothing is worse than when your parents got the tweezers out and you're like, this is not going to be fun for the next five minutes. And then as someone that's had to get tweezers to get it out of a kid, it's even worse for them somehow because you're having this person who's just in pain and you're trying to get the little fucking shred of wood out of their hand or foot. Oh, yeah, this is when it's just like, oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:23 The worst is when you ask someone a question and then they go down to this really awful personal story like, yeah, wish I didn't ask that right there. When you're a rookie, you teach everything about being a cop except how to live with a mistake. Anyway, I just got to bring myself to call my son and his wife again. Sorry, man. Hey, man, how can you know? I feel like shit anyway. Well, then this won't matter. The LAPD is not calling the shots down here anymore.
Starting point is 01:43:08 That's it. You got it. All right, those are the city engineers. They're going to the street circuit. Those guys in the suits, I don't know who they are. That's the SBI. That motor is going to destroy the building's power. at what point do you think for hans does he go oh we're in trouble in his mind do you think he's so arrogant that it's until the very last moment i think it's basically until the when the tape on the back comes off like i think he thinks i think it's basically until the when the tape on
Starting point is 01:43:45 the back comes off like i think he thinks he has it in the in the bank the whole time because like if anything he had to kind of like stray on the plan but the plan was always there yeah and the it was gonna the roof was gonna blow anyway so it's like oh fucking goddamn guys. Shut the fuck up. We can't do it. Can you imagine this on Christmas Eve? You're about to shut down an entire grid of power.
Starting point is 01:44:15 Another one. This whole thing is just about Christmas. It's not even an action movie. It's a Christmas movie before it's an action movie. FBI could just do that too. They just – oh, FBI could do whatever they wanted. They're going to ship you out of the country. You'll lose your job.
Starting point is 01:44:31 Yeah, listen to that Joe Rogan, Edward Snowden podcast. He'll tell you all about what they could do. Would it be possible for you to turn off Grid 212? I feel like they say the same thing in Ghostbusters. It's like the same thing in Ghostbusters when they're told to turn off the containment unit. Oh, yeah. You can't do that. Con Edison.
Starting point is 01:44:54 Imagine you have Christmas dinner. Mama Fox is taking the food out of the oven and then boom. It's fucking no. My parents lost power on Thanksgiving. Honestly, it'd probably make for a memorable thing. Yeah. Annoying in the moment, but afterwards maybe you bond. You get closer. My parents lost power on Thanksgiving. Honestly, it'd probably make for a memorable thing. Yeah. The story. Annoying in the moment, but afterwards, maybe you bond.
Starting point is 01:45:09 You get closer. The one where power went out. That's straight Death Star tech. And just seeing how the plan comes together and they needed this exactly. You're like, oh, this guy is a fucking genius. That's why he's the greatest villain ever. But now that Thanos is around, I'm going to say Hans. I'm sticking with Hans.
Starting point is 01:45:27 I'm sticking with Hans. It's your OG. I think that's fair to stick with your original guy. Hans did, well, I guess Thanos did by Infinity War, but old Thanos just sat on his ass the whole time. Hans is out there. He got a little dirty. He's pulling the trigger on Ellis and Takagi.
Starting point is 01:45:47 They think they're freaking out. they're even that headset too yes so 80s look we got gifts we got christmas music going on in the background then the whole thing with the media. This movie hits on every level. Yeah. I really wonder what the book is like. If you read the book, would you be like, wow, that's like Die Hard? Or would you be like, oh, I could see how they pulled a movie that's like Die Hard out of this. Yeah. I may have to.
Starting point is 01:46:21 Maybe that'll be my little Christmas break reading. Even a Sparknotes version of it, I'm sure sure would give you the general gist and vibe of it. But if it was written in the 60s, I can't imagine it hits as – like this is so 80s. This is so relatable. This is so you could see this happening. You could relate to these characters. That was one of my favorite things about entourage like other than all the holy the fun broey shit they do and whatever but it was like just learning how
Starting point is 01:46:49 scripts like can be taken and tweaked or even like i'm just gonna bury this script and never make it like at least cleaves would just have this script yes 20% another girl and this poor fucking schmuck is just oh the worst
Starting point is 01:47:16 stepping on anything seen in anything yes home alone oh god no oh what are you doing with the nail
Starting point is 01:47:23 the nail on the stairs oh god when that comes on, I hit mute. I can't listen to the sound. Have you seen A Quiet Place? No. There's a nail-stepping moment in that one that's brutal. I can still hear it.
Starting point is 01:47:35 Brutal. What do you think they used for the sound? Did they think they put something on a nail? Like, obviously, the – Yeah, I bet, honestly, based on me watching a ton of The Walking Dead and the behind-the-scenes stuff from that, I bet they poked a nail into a fruit. Yeah, yeah. That's how they created whenever someone would stomp on a zombie's head and you would hear that. I remember they would always have someone stomping on a mostly empty watermelon.
Starting point is 01:48:00 Okay. I always love hearing those little – kind of, the kind of like with the Spielberg stuff like we're saying. Yeah. The little sound stuff. Yeah. The movie magic of it all. How these people make us suspend our disbelief like to the point where we're like, when you're
Starting point is 01:48:12 watching it, you're in it and you believe it's just still real to me, damn it. And at this point, you're like, oh shit, John might not make it out here. Like, I don't feel like the hero usually pours his heart out like this. Yeah. No, this is the star player just went to the bench with an injury and it's like we need you in the fourth dude john come with some fucking poetry on our ass here Love that pump up speech. Love that positivity.
Starting point is 01:49:07 So I looked this up because I couldn't remember the name, but Nothing Lasts Forever is what Die Hard with a Vengeance is based on, number three. And they obviously make some tweaks or whatever. But the fact that these are two based on books and they just – Oh, so which one is Die Hard based on, the regular one, this one? Oh, wait. This one might be Die Hard. I what which one is a die hard based on the regular one this one oh wait this one might be die hard i think that one's die hard and then the other one was the other one was like uh no i think the story with with a vengeance was it was a movie the script existed that might have been it and it was called i think it was called simon says simon says yes and then they reworked it to be a Die Hard movie.
Starting point is 01:49:45 And I don't know if that was when we were – McClane, Bruce Willis said he'd do it if they let him do that – what was the name of the movie he did around that time? Like an artsy movie? No. It was like a – it was like a war movie. Was it? How weird. I don't see it here. Maybe he didn't do it.
Starting point is 01:50:15 Yeah, Simon Says was the name of it. I couldn't remember. That was Sin City. Oh, I forgot about Sin City. Sin City is pretty sick. Yeah, I like Sin City a lot. I think I've only seen it once or twice. It's worth going back and re-watching.
Starting point is 01:50:28 I can tell you that. I watched it recently. It's very good. It holds up. Yeah. Bruce Willis in that. Like, that whole... That's a fucked up part of the movie.
Starting point is 01:50:36 He's probably, like, my favorite anthology. Like, the whole him getting in the car right away. Like, everything about it. And another one with him is Pulp Fiction. Like, his whole story in Pulp Fiction I absolutely the boxer the boxer yep butch senor butch pulp fiction at this time when i saw it when i first saw die hard which was probably right around the same time because pull fiction came out a year earlier 95 95 is when A Biff of Vengeance came out. I think Pulp Fiction was top three favorite movies of mine. Like instantly?
Starting point is 01:51:08 Yeah. Pulp Fiction and Friday. I watched that entire summer. I've never seen Friday. You've never seen Friday? Oh. Yeah. I probably haven't seen it in at least 20 years, but I watched it nonstop.
Starting point is 01:51:18 There's those empty vats. Empty vats. Always. And it's like, all right, now we've got a heavyweight fight between the two big boys. Another, like, we haven't seen this interaction yet. Just no weapons. Yep. They're duking it out.
Starting point is 01:51:33 I love that. I think that's a sneaky part of my favorite part of this movie is just how it does change every single guy he faces. Yes. Shows his range as a fighter. It's almost like a video game. Like, all right, now you've got to use these skills against this villain and then the next level you're gonna have to use completely different skills against the next one and then at the end you're building to the big boss like hans gruber they could probably make a sick diehard video game they've made them they've never been great
Starting point is 01:51:56 though really even made one for the old playstation i remember they made one i think for nintendo it just never they've never gotten it down right i feel like a big reveal you know the story's there for you oh yeah 100 there for you i wish there that when he slides out it's the smoothest slide out you'll see just a slide and shoot but when he shoots the ceiling i I would love just some drywall. It just fell on his head. Such an unnecessary shot in the air. He shoots the ceiling twice, too.
Starting point is 01:52:31 It's like, bro, they get it. They're aware they're in danger. She's terrified that you just found out that's her husband up there. But it's another sneaky move, like trying to put that down so you don't notice that the guy fucking up his plan is your husband. This is just crane kick after crane kick after crane kick. I never said, I mean, I know it's just movies, but how does anyone get up from getting their ass kicked for more than 20 seconds? I just die. You see it in fights sometimes.
Starting point is 01:52:57 The fighter gets dropped and then he drops his opponent in some kind of furious rage afterward. I don't know. You see adrenaline kicking in. Yeah. I can live with killing 25% of the hostages. there's our guy al shout out how long from st louis missouri uh st louis home of yp yep rigs and how long. Yep. What a squad that is. You know, when we had that hellish travel day where we were in Columbia, we had to drive all the way to St. Louis. I went to sleep in the car. I'm a big go in the back of the car, try to put a pillow on or something, go to sleep.
Starting point is 01:53:57 And I woke up at the airport. I was disappointed. I didn't even see the arch. Oh, bummer. I woke up, and I was like, yo, Rowan, did I miss the arch? He's like, oh, yeah, we saw it. I was like, how did it look and he said good it's like at st louis just that's all they have but yeah i've been mostly disappointed with the with any like landmark that i see but the one that comes to mind right away is the las vegas sign which is the most disappointing
Starting point is 01:54:18 thing so disappointing it's very las vegas though and i just talked to marty mush the other day about the liberty bell which i haven't seen, but he has. And he sent me a picture of it. And it's just like on the ground. Really? Like you would picture it to be in like a tower or something of some sort displayed nicely. No. The Liberty Bell is pretty lame.
Starting point is 01:54:36 Just chilling on the ground somewhere. Pretty tiny. I don't – I've never seen it. I'm sure some dude from Philly is like, Hey, careful what you're talking about. That's just my smitty, I guess. I was trying to do my Roan. I can't do that.
Starting point is 01:54:53 Bird gang gang. Yeah. I love you went for the chop there on the plane. It's fucking old school. I'm going to cook you. I'm going to fucking eat you. Just a straight up 12 round What do we call this Bob?
Starting point is 01:55:06 We call this a barn burner? What do we call this? Slobber knocker Slobber knocker Yeah Shout out to GoatJR Yeah What a feeling of accomplishment
Starting point is 01:55:18 And victory When you slide him across Hanging your Hanging your opponent on the fly Is just an all time move All time And again Not to spoil anything, I don't understand how the fuck he survives to this day.
Starting point is 01:55:27 I still understand how he didn't die. I don't think you've got to worry about spoilers. Oh, they were supposed to. Oh, what a psycho. That's like Marvel, when they just mix in the humor at the perfect time when shit's really popping off. Shit with John McClane is very serious, and you break the tension a little bit. And not even like I was in Junior High, but throw the dickhead in there. It's just a laugh every single time.
Starting point is 01:55:59 Great delivery, too. R.I.P. Bloodspotter everywhere in this movie. And now he's shirtless, too. He's looking even cooler. Yep. He's like, Jesus. And the fact that John had to end up looking like the terrorist to get him downstairs.
Starting point is 01:56:30 I know. To really fuck everything up. Oh, God. Twists and turns. Lefts and rights. They made us, Bureau. I don't think I've ever actually noticed that line in the million times I've watched it. I just noticed it. They made us, Bureau. I don't think I've ever actually noticed that line in the million times I've watched it. I just noticed it.
Starting point is 01:56:47 They made us, Bureau. Hell, that sucked. Oh, my God. John Ron. It's like the good guys are fighting the good guys now. Yeah. No. Imagine the ending of Die Hard as he just gets shot there. That's the end of it.
Starting point is 01:57:02 It's ready to roll. Be like, Hans gets away. I saw a video recently where somebody took the file of Toy Story 3. They edited out the ending, the happy ending and they just cut it straight to fade to black as they're approaching the fire. They put it back on
Starting point is 01:57:20 a DVD and they gave it to their mom for like Christmas. It was an old video. And they all sat down to watch it and they filmed a reaction to the ending of it and she was just like, what? Wait, what? What? Had she ever seen it before? No, it was the first time seeing it. It just faded to black as they were approaching the fire
Starting point is 01:57:36 and then I think it was slowly like, I'm traumatized from that and they survived. Did you see Toy Story 4? We went to the drive-in and aj was just running around the whole time so i never got to see i got to see the like the last three minutes i was like oh i just spoiled the movie for myself yeah i didn't love it i i thought it was good but like at the end of it i was like oh toy story 3 was a much better ending they should have just kept back at the ending
Starting point is 01:57:58 and i feel like the story was almost like so adult in its ending that i was like kids aren't gonna get this from the little i saw of it I didn't love the little I saw. And I've loved every Toy Story I've ever seen. Yeah, I love the Toy Story movies. I actually went to like an event for Toy Story 1 and 2 when 3 was coming out. Really? Me and my sister went to like, it was like Toy Story 1 and 2 back to back. They did like trivia in between.
Starting point is 01:58:21 It was fun. I was also, it was before Toy Story 3, so I was a little younger. Perfect age for it. Yeah, I i was saying that's your wheelhouse this is just an so that's a real explosion too i'm guessing which has to be crazy even if it's an explosion on a miniature that they put in there and i guess this is kind of like the i maybe is this the iconic moment where he's on the the hoe the fire hose and he's shooting his way in like i don't know what people see iconic yeah like i feel like it probably is and there's just so many other iconic moments of this movie off oh god get it off it's crazy how like the good guys then become the bad guys and
Starting point is 01:59:02 become the good guys and the hose that saves you then becomes the thing that's going to kill you. They just never let you. They have the foot on the gas the whole time during these scenes. And nothing. There's no loose ends. Everything, like I said earlier, I don't want to sound like a broken record. Everything clicks into place with this movie so perfectly. It is what I would call a flawless movie.
Starting point is 01:59:24 I would say this is probably my second favorite action movie ever. I don't even know if I should say favorite because I don't have the love of this like you do. It's not like up there for me. But like best. If I look at like the definitive action movies, I go one, Raiders of the Lost Ark. Two, Die Hard. Go need some new FBI guys. Like some dark humor in there too.
Starting point is 01:59:47 They definitely have the dark humor now. Yeah, Indiana Jones was another one I just never watched when I was a kid. Have you seen him now or no? Oh, yeah, I saw him. Yeah, I saw him. I caught up. But it was probably like 10 years ago or so that I ended up catching up on him. I love Indiana Jones.
Starting point is 02:00:03 I don't know why i just never i just never saw them again i think having an older sibling helps with that or just older kids that'll get you into stuff or else you just kind of find your way through stuff and that is as i've mentioned a ton even on this podcast something that i would love to see rebooted i want indiana jones stories all the time well you said r our James Bond does make a lot of sense. Yeah. You can really have some fun with the time periods too. Totally, yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:33 And have fun with the variety. There's so much shit you could do. I mean the fact that like the second one, people were pulling hearts. It was like a voodoo cult pulling hearts out of chests. Yeah, there's no real rule book for Indiana Jones. I mean the fourth one that people shit on and rightfully so is like the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Those aliens. Like you can do anything with Indiana Jones.
Starting point is 02:00:53 It will work. They're doing a new one with Harrison Ford. Are they? Yeah. Harrison. Which like we love you, man, but enough. You're going to be in your 80s when you're Indiana Jones. So it's like... He was at the premiere
Starting point is 02:01:07 of The Rise of Skywalker. It was funny seeing him on the red carpet. Just like, oh yeah, I love these movies. Still the earring in? Yeah. Yeah, I got my ear pierced
Starting point is 02:01:16 when I was a teen and I haven't kept it since. He's just mumbling the entire time. Star Wars, I really... Our guy blindly thinking this guy is a terrorist is a little extreme. What if that's just mumbling the entire time. Star Wars. I really want to die. Our guy will blindly think this guy is a terrorist. It's a little extreme. What if that's just some dude trying to help someone out or whatever?
Starting point is 02:01:31 Like, Jesus. No, he was on to him. He was on to him from the jump. I guess he has the bullshit thing. That guy is just some... He kind of floats around in the background just worthless. He just takes to the face. What a shot there.
Starting point is 02:01:42 Cinematography. Yes. Fucking for days. Just the silhouette of McClane with the gun. So badass. And slowly comes into frame. You see his face. And like you forget.
Starting point is 02:01:56 Like these people haven't seen what he looks like. He just looks like a dude who's just been almost getting killed for two hours. Yeah. Sparks flying. Another tro hours. Yeah. Sparks flying. Another trope. Yeah, true. I've never seen sparks fly like that in real life. In real life.
Starting point is 02:02:12 Ever. So we down to two bullets, which is such a John McClane move. They only have two bullets left in this entire building. $600 million in 1988 is an unfathomable... I don't even know what that would be today. I'll get the inflation calculator. Yeah, there we go. What's your guess? I have no idea.
Starting point is 02:02:51 3.2 billion. I'm going to guess like 2.4. 2.4? All right, here we go. 600 million in 1988. Yep. Appears to be about 2.7 million.
Starting point is 02:03:15 Billion, sorry. I meant to say billion, obviously. 2.7 billion dollars he's stealing. Hearing that and saying that in that voice. Those are his last words too Which is crazy Oh shit they really are And then this weird laughing scene which I love
Starting point is 02:03:31 Yeah And look Christmas tape We have Christmas bells playing in the background What else do you want from this fucking movie you haters Oh between the eyes amazing blows the smoke that's a fucking cowboy if i've ever seen it and then this is obviously a very classic piece of trivia that hans was you know alan rickman was very afraid of heights and they didn't tell him when they were going to drop him. They dropped him on two instead of dropping him on three.
Starting point is 02:04:11 That's why I get the reaction. You get a very legitimate shocked reaction. Another all-time moment from this movie. Like one of the most iconic shots from the whole movie right here. That's the watch that Alice gave her. Yep. Takes it off. There's that look. That's exactly what I would look like if I didn't know I was about Ellis gave her. Yep. And takes it off. And there's that look.
Starting point is 02:04:27 That's exactly what I would look like if I didn't know I was about to be dropped. Yeah. And the fact they show that with a vengeance when they remember Hans Gruber. Yeah. Yeah. That's like disturbed. I never heard the thud like that before. Harsh thud.
Starting point is 02:04:54 John, stop covering me in blood. Yeah, I was going to say, what a gross person to hug. But I guess in that moment, I think you're hugging anyone. I'm smooching. Lots of smooching going on. Yeah. You might be fucking right away. Yeah, there might be fucking. Yeah. You might be fucking right away. Yeah, there might be fucking. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:10 And the hero saves the day. Hero saves the day. John McLean fucking does it. All these. Oh, I didn't even notice the trees have lights on them. Yeah. That's a nice little touch. This news van. This guy. I don't even notice the trees have lights on them. That's a nice little touch. This news van.
Starting point is 02:05:27 This guy, I don't like Thornburg. The guy is a hustler, though. There's times when you're working a beat on your UFC nights. You're just working. Yeah, it's a grind. And he's kind of in that same boat. That's definitely the 80s version of blogging his dick off people listening to this uh i guess you know this comes out on december 27th i believe so we're about to be in full fight camp mode for mcgregor oh fight camp it's time now that the rise
Starting point is 02:06:01 of skywalker is going to be over with and and christmas is going to be over with and Christmas is going to be over with, it's time to really ramp up the put the gloves back on, you know, executive director of support time. I love that he knew that that was Powell. It's like they had this connection. It was the connection the whole time. It's Carl Winslow. I do find it weird that the victims could just walk around all willy-nilly. No way. No way in real life.
Starting point is 02:06:31 Now that's a hog. What an embrace here. Oh, God. I like to imagine that they were friends for life after this. Yes. At least kept in touch, sent each other some holiday cards. In two. He's in two.
Starting point is 02:06:48 Oh, really? He has Al— Don't tell me he dies. No, no, no. He calls in Callie and he has him help him out on the phone or something like that. He's kind of the Ned to his Spider-Man. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 02:06:59 The tech guy. Okay. What a twist Carl's still alive And another great twist. Yep. Not only is it a comedy, an action movie, a Christmas movie, it's a redemption movie as well. It's like, Al, that was my partner up there.
Starting point is 02:07:40 Yeah. You know the guy who was supposed to clear the building It was Christmas Eve He was like, I could probably get home if I do this really quick Like, dude, come on That guy looks like a fucking terrorist We just talked about it He's not fucking ballet dancing He's covered in blood
Starting point is 02:07:58 Yeah He's covered in blood And like, Ellis would have Our guy would have gotten lit up. Oh, lit up. After a fucking other terrorist just went down. Oh no, he's with me. Okay.
Starting point is 02:08:09 Would have been fucking like Hitler at the end of Inglourious Bastards just constantly like getting. I was going to say Sonny's car at the toll booth. Yeah, yeah. Mr. McClane, now that it's all over, that's an incredible review. What are your thoughts?
Starting point is 02:08:23 Oh. Everyone laughed. The people are laughing at him. Although when Ghostbusters, Everyone will laugh. The people are laughing at him. Although in Ghostbusters, this is true. This man has no dick. Yes. Gets me every time. One of the best lines in the whole movie. He knows content.
Starting point is 02:08:40 He's like, at least he got that. Another one. Another Christmas. This is a Christmas movie, definitively. Oh, wait. you got that. Another one. This is a Christmas movie, definitively. And it's the best Christmas movie. And it's ending with a Christmas song. Interesting. We have lights on trees. We have stuff snowing from above, whether it's papers or snow.
Starting point is 02:09:01 Just a delight. An absolute delight. And doing this podcast has been a delight. An absolute delight. And doing this podcast has been a delight. It was a really fun time. I hope everybody out there enjoyed it. Do you have any last notes on Die Hard? I feel like we really said a lot of what there is to say about the movie. Yeah, I feel like, again, if you don't think greatest,
Starting point is 02:09:23 we'll say one of the best heroes ever, one of the greatest villains ever. And again, the supporting cast. Usually movies have two or three of those in place and they're classics. This hits kind of all those notes in my opinion. So I love it. I absolutely love it. Flawless, as I said. I hope maybe people checked out Die Hard to listen to this podcast.
Starting point is 02:09:42 Or maybe people listened to this podcast, they don't care about the spoilers, and now they'll check out Die Hard if they haven't seen it before. Kids my age, who knows? Thank you for listening. Merry Christmas to everybody out there. Again, hope you had a good Christmas. Happy New Year.

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