My Mom's Basement - FRIDAY BONUS EPISODE 8 - ‘SPIDER-MAN: FAR FROM HOME’ RECAP/REVIEW SHOW

Episode Date: July 4, 2019

Enter the Spider-Verse (or at least one of ‘em!) with Robbie and Clem as they break down the latest installment to the Marvel Cinematic Universe, ‘Spider-Man: Far From Home'! As always, the boys give you plenty of warning before spoilers are talked about. Enjoy! P.S. Consider this “Friday” Bonus Episode dropping on a Thursday a special Fourth of July treat! God bless America, and God bless Kevin Feige!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Clem is joining me. Hey Clem, how are you? Go get him, Spider-Man! Go follow that goddamn star! Use that Peter Tingle, baby! I'm just gonna start talking to you because I got complaints last week about New York City noise in the background of my interview with Danny Boyle and Richard Curtis. And the issue there is I recorded that at the office, and at the office, we don't have soundproof podcast studios. They go right out onto 7th Ave. And at my apartment, I also do not have soundproof podcast studios. So really, we're just giving you the ambient sounds of New York City to get you in the mood for a Spider-Man Far From Home podcast.

Before we get into Spider-Man Far From Home, I want remind you uh to subscribe to this podcast if you haven't already and give us a rating and review on itunes keep the discussion going on twitter all week long i'm at robbie barstool and clem is at the clem report on twitter so tweet us about it you know the two of us reply to people all the time we'll retweet you we'll talk about spider-man with you it's my favorite thing in the world. Outside the theater yesterday, actually, I had someone come up to me. They were like, coming to see Spider-Man? And I was like, it's kind of cool that I could just show up to the movie theater and people know what movie I'm here to see.

But, yeah, that's all the housekeeping I guess I have to get out of the way. Clem, you and I both saw Spider-Man this week. You saw it yesterday. I saw it yesterday. We are jacked up to talk about it. But before we do, I want to touch on some things that we haven't just yet. Two stories in particular. One in the Marvel world.

One in the DC world. So we'll start off with DC and then we can go all the way over to Marvel. Robert Pattinson is now Batman. We haven't discussed this on air or anything. I'm a big fan of the move. I think you know that. I think Robert Pattinson is a fantastic actor. I thought he deserved to win the Oscar for Good Time in 2018 or 2017, whatever year that movie came out in. He was awesome. I think he's a whole lot more than he is in Twilight. Basically, I just want to know what

you think of this casting. I'm fine with it i really have no opinion either way my wife loves the twilight books she didn't really love the movies but she was a die hard she she like she's not a reader either and then she just like would like wouldn't put those books down that in the hundred games she got into before they you know they were going to become movies so i kind of was always like oh this is the guy going after my girl here because she was an Edward freak. My wife, Wifey. Wifey is a very grounded, nice, wonderful individual who isn't crazy. Her and her roommate in college flew out to Forks, Washington to just go in the woods. Oh, my goodness.

Oh, my goodness, Clem. This is like my mom's basement kind of level of fandom, right? Yes. If you ever have a twilight episode she's gonna come on and talk because she is a legitimate crazy person for the twilight saga so i've always had like a little bit of anger jealousy like you do with anyone that's like your your wife or girlfriend's number one like aj from the backstreet boys up there for her and then robert i'm sure robert pattinson was up there at one point when he was Edward. So I was going into this as kind of an anti-Edward guy, but I'm pretty much fine with it.

I don't hold the Batman series or even the comic books nearly as high in my heart as you do because you, I think, were a diehard DC. I mean, you just got a tattoo. But, like, The Dark Knight is one of my favorite movies ever i think i called it my favorite comic book film so then i don't have to put it with the movie against the avengers the the last two but uh i i think there's a chance it can bounce back now that's all you can ask for with this casting like decision it's like don't be like basically screwed from the day you make the casting choice and i think they at least gave themselves a chance there's still a long way to go though for them to go all the way near

back to the level they were yeah agreed i like the casting too i saw a tweet that said this and i agreed wholeheartedly they were like oh you're taking the super hot all the girls love him guy that also seems to have a weird dark side and you're putting him in the role of bruce wayne who has this weird dark side in Batman like it kind of works perfectly. He looks young enough where you could start off with a young Batman and if you wanted to do I'm currently in the process of mapping

out a 10 year plan for DC. That's what my current process has been over break, over the whole 4th of July break. I'm trying to come up with a 10 year plan that involves 6 Batman movies, it has a couple Aquaman movies a Flash movie, Wonder Woman but you'll see that soon. I'm trying to come up with a 10-year plan that involves six Batman movies, it has a couple Aquaman movies, a Flash movie, Wonder Woman, but you'll see that soon. I'm going to do it in

a video format, but I'm excited. I think Battinson can be a big thing. I love calling him Battinson. We had Batflack and Battinson. But I'm excited about that. And then the next thing that I want to talk about is we've seen a ton of rumors about Keanu Reeves coming into the MCU. Kevin Feige has straight up said, we want him in the MCU. We're doing everything we can. They originally wanted him to play Jude Law's character in Captain Marvel. He turned that down. He said it wasn't kind of a big enough role for him. And then they offered him reportedly a role in the Eternals, which I don't know much about, to be honest with you. I i don't know if you do i have pretty much no idea what the eternals is i know it was like superheroes

thousands of years before the superheroes we have today yeah i don't know much about it either i am just i am at a like no level of keanu reeves is like he's the hottest dude on the planet right now and every story or every like reaction like he was in the video game obviously john wick 3 was just out and then it's like the the most the hottest movie studio for like the last five years has been begging him to come on every single movie and he's like nah i'm good nah i'm good like it's just so incredible man and you hear all the stories about keanu's like an awesome dude like it just makes you feel happy that like in a world like hollywood where there's just so many shitty people one of the good guys is just like living the life right now and it's gonna happen i just hope whatever it is whether it's the eternals which i i honestly

don't know much about either or something else down the road i just hope and the way it's been going with marvel it's gonna end up being the perfect fit no matter what it is you just know it i think it definitely is and then with uh with the eternals especially after guardians of the galaxy became what it is now i have so much faith in like i don't know what it is but i'll be there on opening night to see what it is and i have a prediction clam that i'm going to make on this podcast i made it on twitter this morning i think the reason kevin feige has been rushing the deal with keanu so quickly like why would you rush that you could put the eternals off if you really wanted Keanu in it. He's rushing it because he wants to announce it at the end of the month at San Diego Comic-Con

and have Keanu Reeves walk out on stage during the Marvel panel at Hall H. Could you imagine the stone-cold-in-the-attitude-era level pop Keanu would get walking out on stage being introduced by Kevin Feige. Robbie, you're like, this is it. Like, this is like getting like you get the spoilers through Reddit. You've already now put this in my head. Don't deliver like the most incredible like way to and this kicks off the next, you know, stage of MCUcu right so it's like it almost works out completely perfectly for goddamn marvel who has not made um like a wrong move of forever it feels like to then just like be like this is the

new era and keanu's gonna lead us there and he's fucking keanu just being keanu fucking scruffy as a motherfucker with his long hair oh man robbie you got me still great that would be so awesome it's the nerd equivalent of getting like major signing for your team, I feel like. That would be like, oh my god, we got Keanu in the MCU. Sadly, Clem, we don't have Kevin Durant or anyone like that on the Knicks. I hate to bring it up.

I hate to bring it up. I really do. I'm not even safe in the basement right now. I hate to bring it up. It's just a timely thing. I got you on the show. Had to do it. Let's talk Spider-Man, though. We can talk Spider-Man, especially, hey, I can bring this up right away, flip you around maybe. Spider-Man's a Mets fan.

There we go. Did you notice that? He had a Mike Piazza, like, little flag in his bedroom in one of the beginning scenes. One of, like, the few wins we've had at Mets fans is that Spider-Man, who is, like, probably, at this rate, like our most famous Mets fan in the world. He's the YP of the Mets now. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. He is. Yeah. Cause he's a Queens guy. And I always appreciated that. Is that like, you know, that's kind of Peter Parker, man. He's not like your typical Tony Stark, super duper hero, braggadocious dude. He's just a regular dude from Queens and you don't get more regular than Mets fans you really really really

don't so we're going to talk about the movie for a few minutes now without spoiling anything so if you haven't seen it you'll still be safe for now and then we'll get to a point where we're going to talk about everything like we did with the Avengers and like we did back in the day with Infinity War and The Last Jedi we'll go down through the whole plot

I got your questions. You guys all submitted questions, so we'll answer those. Clem, just overall thoughts on Spider-Man Far From Home. I loved Far From Home. I went into it. Again, I didn't have high expectations going into this one here. And maybe it's just me, but I avoided the internet. And then you told me how good it was.

I saw a bunch of people on Twitter just saying, but I had avoided the internet, and then you told me how good it was. I saw a bunch of people on Twitter just saying one of the top MCU movies ever, this and that, and I'm like, I gotta go there for two reasons. One, I don't want to get anything spoiled for me, and two, I don't want people building this up to the point it cannot possibly

live up to. And you know what? It delivered. I also have to say though, it was a very tricky situation situation because it's a solo superhero movie after two, you know, like you could say face an uphill battle the entire time and they did basically as good of a job entertaining you and still paying homage to the old stuff while bringing it to the future as i basically think a movie could have done yeah i think so too i loved the way they addressed all of the post-endgame world stuff right up front they got it out of the way and then it really before endgame made no sense to me that this was the ending of phase three or phase four whatever we're in i think it's phase three and i think we talked about it like

isn't that so weird endgame should be the end of that and then you move on from it but it made a lot of sense after i saw this movie for this to be the final movie in phase three because it's much like iron man 3 like an epilogue to end game we got a ton of morning we got a ton of aftermath we got a ton of follow-up and then you also used the perfect character to do it in with peter parker who is arguably he's the most like a fan of the mcu he's referencing movies he's a nerdy kid he's a good kid he's just trying to do the right thing he gets excited yeah i'm a loser mets fan just call he loser Mets fan. He gets excited about all the things that we get excited about. So you're taking someone that just went through the emotional

heartbreak of Tony Stark's death, just like we did. And you're letting us kind of get closure through him. It was a beautiful way to cap off phase three. It was legitimately cracks my top 10. I don't know where was legitimately cracks my top 10. I don't know where it is in my rankings yet. I liked it better than homecoming though. I would probably slide it right above that. I thought Mysterio was frigging awesome. Jake Gyllenhaal was awesome.

Zendaya, we talked about this very briefly. I love her twist on MJ so much. I think she is, MJ has always felt like an anchor to Peter. Like she's always like dragging him down or there's always an issue with MJ, or this, that, the next thing. In this version, she's just like, you're rooting for them to be together. Like you said, Clem, to me. You said you want Peter and MJ to be together. And I think that it might just be Tom Holland playing Spider-Man and Peter Parker as well as he does that makes me root for everyone

in his life to do well I root for Aunt May I root for Happy Hogan I root for Ned I root for Peter Parker I root for MJ like I like everyone around this guy and I think it all boils down to Tom Holland being the most likable character history has ever seen yeah and the fact that we lost like I think Theo Vaughn said something someone had had a thing about how we're losing all the different superheroes to the British people. But it's so hard. I can't even be mad at Tom. I know. He does it absolutely perfectly.

And he does that Queen's accent. The Queen's accent comes out every now and then just to remind you, oh, it's a spicy meatball. It's a chef's kiss. And we're kind of just sucking each other's dicks here. Cause we talked about this on text before, but like you said it best, like it's refreshing. The MJ spin that you put on it. And it really like,

instead of at the end, we were like, oh man, I hope, you know, MJ doesn't break his heart. You're like, oh no,

like they got together and this is a good mix. And then even at the end, when they're having their dynamic, you're like, it's not just, you know, she's not just like flying through the air and loving every minute of it it's like a real relationship and yeah it's cool and also let me just tell you this when you were like i love zendaya in the role

i'll be honest robbie i'm an old man i'm a little out of touch i've heard the name zendaya a billion times do you know who the fuck it was all these years now i know who zendaya is so this is kind of a nice thing i can't i can't hate on you too much because i found out who she was because of homecoming so it was only a few years ago for me where i probably should have being a younger kid being like a year or two younger than her i don't know if you saw this on her press tour for this movie she dyed her hair red she posted a picture with red hair and with the caption face it tiger which is mj's first ever, the first panel, her intro. She says, Face It, Tiger, you just hit the jackpot.

So that was kind of cool. I think her, I mean, Tom Holland for sure, and then everyone around this, they just love being associated. Everyone in the MCU really loves being associated with it. They love being able to represent whoever their character is. It's such a great, wholesome family environment. Now, because I can't wait any fucking longer, Clem, we got to just jump right into it. We got to jump into the spoiler zone.

Go see Spider-Man Far From Home. We promise it gets the stamp of approval from the two of us. It's fantastic. You'll love it. If not, we'll give you your money back. Maybe. We'll see. Yeah, tweet Eric and Nardini or Dave Portnoy for that side of things.

I will say this, too, to anyone before we get into the spoilers. To anyone going, it might be crowded because I went last night. The first movie theater I went to, as soon as Robbie says we've got to podcast this, I said I'm in. Within an hour, I told Seattle we were going to see Spider-Man. We left the house. We had about 40 minutes before the movie had even started. Couldn't find a parking spot. Line out the door. We get about 40 minutes before the movie had even started. Couldn't find a parking spot.

Line out the door. We get there, and it said sold out. And I just saw my young girl throw a headstand and cry. And it was the first time she's ever been told that a movie sold out. And we drove another half hour down the road to the next movie theater, praying to God that we would get in because they don't have online ticketing. And by the grace of God, we got in. So just be aware.

Like this movie, people are hearing how good it it is go early or get your tickets before you go totally i went the first showing was tuesday at noon and i saw in one of new york's biggest imax screens and it was completely sold out to the point where they were like people even trying to sit in our seats when we showed up so like on a tuesday at noon most people didn't have off and they took off anyway so So agreed on that. And also two post-credit scenes. Make sure you stay for both of them. We will dive deep into both of them on this show.

But they are two of the greatest post-credit scenes in the MCU. Half of my theater left before the second one. And I had like a four-year-old who was awake at 930. And I'm like, yo, girl, we're going nowhere. Post-credit scenes. And it's a billion percent worth it do not leave unless even if you have to pee run piss your pants do whatever but watch both those scenes yes okay now if you have not seen far from home turn this podcast off because we're gonna spoil the fuck out of it it's not our fault anymore you have made it into the spoiler zone where we are going to go down the entire plot line of this movie provided by Wikipedia mostly.

And we'll just make our comments on the movie. So it begins in Mexico. Nick Fury and Maria Hill are investigating like a crazy storm. And we see the first Elemental, which is basically Sandman. This version of Sandman, I guess. And Quentin Beck arrives. He fights the creature. A cool Easter egg that I wrote down Easter eggs, a bunch of them provided by the Hollywood Reporter,

is that there is a 463 license plate that they see right before they see Sandman. And that is the first issue that he appears in, in the comics. So a very cool intro to Far From Home. You get to see Mysterio for the first time. And Mysterio has always been one of my favorite Spider-Man villains, just from the cartoon, really, from the 90s cartoon.

And then from like my original coloring books, just because he had the coolest costume. He has that fishbowl helmet with the smoke and his powers, or he can make Spider-Man see illusions, and he's a failed stuntman. For them to be able to nail that suit on the big screen, I know we talked about it when we talked about the trailer, but it's crazy how good it looked throughout the entire movie yeah i'm someone who really had no experience with mysterio because i didn't watch the cartoon and i wasn't a huge

spider-man fan and there was like there's two ways that could have gotten really corny really quick but they kind of do a great job of making it still like fun and cool looking while also making it like obviously there's a whole other side of Mysterio you find out later in the movie about what's really going on and they they fucking nailed it just when he has the suit off later when he's in the bar and it's just so fucking cool looking I'm like damn that and it popped out to me and I wasn't in a fancy IMAX I was in some shitty movie theater that's our like you know option d theater here I was like damn man that shit looks good i'm like yo you better get the creases off of that cape girl because if he's with the queen that suit pops yeah the suit

looked so fucking good just everything about it when they were deconstructing it and then later like you said when you find out like what the suit is and they kind of clue you in on the joke they're like doesn't it look frigging ridiculous? Like people will believe anything nowadays. Everything about Mysterio, we will get into that. But everything about Mysterio, they fucking nailed. And then we cut to New York and the Midtown School of Science and Technology where Peter Parker goes. They restart their year and they sort of explain what's going on with the students because there were all those questions. Hey, did all of Peter's friends get snapped away? Did some of the people

go and get older now? And they address this in a very unique, it reminded me a lot of Homecoming, how Homecoming started with Peter's, like, found footage from Civil War. This started with the school's early morning news show, and they talk about what they call the blip, which is when people disappeared and then reappeared. They show some funny footage of people reappearing like the marching band reappearing in the middle of a basketball game i think which made me laugh and then they do something that i could not have loved anymore and reminded me so much of any superhero cartoon at the end of the segment they the one kid makes a joke he says my younger brother's now older than me because he had grown up five years. Funny joke. And then they kind of just say like,

well, I guess we're just going to have to move on. And that's that. And I was like, oh my God, that reminds me so much of the cartoons where every week you have this like, if we don't solve this, the earth will implode and everyone knows about it and the streets are chaos. And then the next week they're like, oh, oh, well. So I was cool with that, with the way they handled the blip, with the way they handled a student's aging five years. A lot of people said it was a plot hole that all of Peter's friends got snapped. I don't think that's a plot hole.

I think it's just like, yeah, you're kind of hamfisting the coincidental probability of that. Yeah, it's like there's only so much you could do in terms of like, it's real life, people. These are real actors. Like at some point you guys just have to stop just picking holes in every little thing. They're not going to recast Mary Jane and I have to flirt whoever the news and die is because – Yeah, that would just be annoying.

It would just be annoying. And I like how it was like something stupid like a blip. We're even calling it the snap because we know all about Thanos. It also really fucks me up though because as soon as i said oh that's what happens i thought about all the different things people are asking like what happens to the people that were in airplanes like did they just yeah out of the sky and i'm like oh that definitely happened so i was very disturbed about everything that happened there um it was nice seeing them mention bruce banner by name and it was nice seeing obviously a Bruce Banner by name, and it was nice seeing, obviously, a running theme in this movie, the world worshipping Iron Man for what he did.

Which is kind of what we talked about when we talked about the trailer. Like, our world should be worshipping him, like, on this Earth, but they really do it in that one. Because even when Peter and the class trip, when they arrive at the airport, you see, like, Iron Man things internationally as well. Yeah, that fucked me up, that in memoriam in the beginning. And it's kept dead? Is he die of old age? I think they just assume because they don't want to tell everyone about how much that fucks with the timeline, I guess. Okay, because I was like, Dan, do we know that this old Steve Rogers is the Steve Rogers and he just became –

or they're like, listen, he went back and he didn't come back. And they're kind of just letting him live a private citizen's life. But OK, so you talked me off the ledge, Rob. But you know, I'm not a huge Cap guy to this very day. To this day. To this day. Because that cute girl is being raised without a father right now. Yeah, that's really tough.

I thought we were getting Pepper in the movie and I was like, I'm not ready to see her right now. Oh, I know. When the girl brings the new suit? Yeah. I thought that was Pepper as well. Okay, I'm glad we were on the same page there because I was like, oh my god, is Pepper bringing him a new suit? Jeez. Alright, so the school organizes a field trip and they

are going to Europe, which we saw in the trailer obviously. Peter Parker's still distraught over what happened in Endgame, and he's showing signs of, like, they don't say this explicitly, but it feels like PTSD when he's getting his picture taken by all the photographers that are asking him, are you going to be the next Iron Man at Aunt May's homeless shelter, which another thing that I didn't think of,

a ton of people are going to be homeless from the blip. So that was their way of incorporating Aunt May's homeless shelter, which she runs in the comics and the PS4 game. I thought that was really cool, and it's a fundraiser. And I love that he was wearing the Iron Spider suit and just ever so awkward on stage, giving the thumbs up, not knowing what to do with his hands. Super funny scene, and then we get Happy Hogan. Our fucking guy, Happy Hogan Clem. Jon Favreau is so perfect in this role, and the way they handle him in this movie where he's sort of off and on dating like aunt may so funny every scene he was in made me smile head to toe and he starts talking about nick fury he's like are you ghosting nick fury like

you're about to get a call from him he hangs up on him and spider-man wants a vacation to himself understandably so i i would my favorite part about this is everything you just mentioned about this scene. It reminds you that Peter Parker is just a fucking kid. He's 16 years old. Yeah, he's 16 years old. Think of where you were. You were like three fucking years ago, you asshole. You, the listener, you're not a fucking baby like this kid who has his own goddamn podcast

and is a part of a giant media company. He's not even able to drink. Think about where you were at 16 years old and you're not a fucking baby like this kid who has his own goddamn podcast and is a part of a giant media company he's not even able to drink think about where you were at 16 years old and you're fighting god and you see this guy on the screen and he's fighting thanos and he has the gauntlet in his hand and he's doing all this crazy stuff and you remember like he's just a kid that has a crush on a girl and wants to hang out with his friends and he's being you know new york reporters are terrifying they're the most they'll they'll pick they'll they'll find an inch every single way that That's why people are so scared of the New York media.

And this kid's just like, he freezes up because he doesn't know what to say because he doesn't want to get caught in a lie or get caught in something bad. So it was great to see

and I'm with you, man. I, it got to the point where I forgot that Marissa Tomei was even Aunt May. Oh my God. And I'm like,

how did, I'm like, how has she not been in this more? In this movie, I feel like we got the perfect amount of Aunt May.

We got Happy Hogan and it's kind of like the big theme of this movie is like, who has she not been in this more? In this movie, I feel like we got the perfect amount of Aunt May. We got Happy Hogan. And it's kind of like the big theme of this movie is like who's the next Iron Man without Iron Man? And, I mean, it should be Peter Parker in terms of it's the same. It's very similar, a smart kid that has the powers. Obviously, him and Tony had this relationship. It was a huge part of Tony going back in Endgame and inventing time travel, which is just a ludicrous thing to say. Shout out to our dog, Tony Stark, for that. Yeah, shout out to our dog, R.I.P. And the fact that, like, it almost feels like this movie, it's clearly not going to be like a future Iron Man because Peter Parker doesn't have that kind

of personality, but it's going to be the fun stuff, the likable hero that doesn't have the dark side that Tony has and having Happy in it kind of like really hammers that point home with the cool gadgets but also like a little more heart to it i guess you could say totally it felt like and we'll get into this now because the class you know goes on their field trip felt like a john hughes movie to me so much of it felt like a john h movie and I've said that about Homecoming but this one like hammered it home really really every second of it felt like a John Hughes movie where Spider-Man was also a character and like they dealt with that they balanced his love story with Mary Jane or I guess just MJ and his superhero story so well they just just intertwined perfectly. There was, I was never like,

Ooh, go back to MJ or Ooh, go back to Spider-Man. It all worked so well. And I loved the talk he had with, uh, Aunt May before he left about his plan to like confess his feelings for Mary Jane and I'm on top of the Eiffel Tower and get the black Dahlia necklace and all of that because it felt so teenager. It felt so high school.

Like he really likes this girl and he doesn't want to screw it up. And him and Ned talking about it and Ned being like, come on, man, like we're bachelors. And then the scene on the airplane where they're going. Don't you skip past it. My dog, Robbie Fox, he got his first little kiss on his D.C. trip. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No big deal.

Not a big deal, as our spitting chicklets colleagues would say. But I did get my first kiss on a D.C. field trip, a hell of a field trip. Kids, like I said, I had a listener come up to me at Blogs for Dogs, 17 years old. So there are kids that listen to this podcast. Those class trips, magic stuff happens. You know, be safe. But this plane scene is so fucking funny where he's trying to get ned to switch seats with mj so he could sit next to her and use his dual headphone adapter and ned just botches it like nobody's ever botched a

wingman job before and peter's allergic to perfume he sits mj next to the cute kid he sits uh peter next to the teacher fucking gilfoyle he's next to the girl now who seemed annoying at first and by the end of the flight they're dating which is another like such a cliche high school thing we all knew the kid that dated like just wound up dating a girl in two seconds and they were broken up two days later which winds up happening in this but the airplane scene was honestly one of my favorite scenes in the whole movie because i couldn't wipe the smile off my face yeah i think they did a great job i think the casting where i you do you do need to have the teachers had to be important they had to be likable people and they had to have like the the chops for it and guilfoyle and and i mean leon black yeah all them they're hbo names

yeah like they are just two guys that just make you smile it's like what kind of nonsense is it come out of their mouth and they didn't just play up their straight up characters from the shows they were a little different but it was like i was like oh these guys are gonna take their roles and hammer that shit home and again it does a perfect job with the whole ned thing where he fucks it up and then he ends up falling in love just like what happens at these trips because it's just a bunch of kids with fucking hormones just hormones going everywhere everywhere clem the chubby kid has a chance on these trips man i love it love it. Yeah, yeah. It was just so funny.

That's one of my favorite parts of the whole movie. But once they get to Italy, I think, was their first stop. They start going around. Peter gets the necklace for MJ. The class is just kind of up to hijinks. J.B. Smoove has a couple awesome one-liners. Pretty much everything he said. He was like Korg in Ragnarok for me.

Everything he said just made me laugh.org in Ragnarok for me everything he said just made me laugh Ned is in the water with his girlfriend on a boat and they see kind of it looks like a shark or something is swimming up through the water and then it turns into what we've seen in the trailer as Hydro Man this giant water monster with awesome CGI all of the elementals looked awesome and I was a little nervous about it because I kind of hate the big CGI monsters of current superhero movies, like the end of Suicide Squad, where it's just like CG versus CG versus CG. I hate that shit. But I thought they handled the elementals really well. And also a fun fact, when Betty is taking a picture of Ned in Venice right before the Hydro Man comes out of the water, if you look behind him, you could read the boat.

It says ASM 212, and that is the first appearance of Hydro Man. Issue 212 of Amazing Spider-Man. Just an awesome thing. Imagine being like a set designer and just being like, you know what? I'm going to put this in here, and it's going to make the movie better, and no one's even going to realize until the movie comes out. I've got to get my Chinese bootleg of this movie so I can get all these Easter eggs. Yeah. Because I've worn my Chinese bootleg of Endgame to like the nub right now.

I tell you, I'm like, I can like read Chinese. I'm like Donnie. I could actually read Chinese. I've watched it so many times. Yeah. But a very cool scene where Mysterio and Spider-Man work together against Hydro Man. I didn't really understand what Peter was doing for most of it. He puts on like a ridiculous, almost New Orleans-y like burlesque mask.

And he's holding a tower together. I guess he's just trying to stop it from falling. He doesn't do a good job. The tower just gets decimated. He is caught completely with his pants down or his suit off, whatever you want to say. And he like doesn't know what to do, which I guess like, I feel like the suit almost gives him half his powers. You know what I mean?

Like just in his mind, I think it's like, uh, And that was the other thing. He didn't want to pack the suit because he was like, let me just have a fucking weekend where I could not be a superhero. But Aunt May packed it for him because she is very much the Alfred to his Batman and always knows what's best for him. And he gets pulled over for the banana. Yeah.

I think it's going to be for the suit. He gets, you know, security gets him for the banana for the banana yeah uh what did you think of the fight otherwise with hydro man i it was there i i agree so the cgi stuff i was like all right this is like a little it's it seems like just the other guy even though they're all you find out they're all mentals and you find out it's all just a bunch of bullshit um but i mean i liked it for what it was i was like this is this fucking mysterious guy We get to see what he's all about. And it did feel like Peter was just basically like, it's like when you don't study for a test and you're just swimming the entire time, for lack of a better word. And that's kind of what he was doing.

He was clearly not prepared for it. Yeah. He was just like, just trying to like not kill himself or get any of his friends killed. And he did a feasible job. job and this is where he actually meets Mysterio for the first time because Nick Fury brings him into this underground cave after he had given him these glasses from Tony Stark the glasses that Tony was wearing in Infinity War actually when he has that whole nanotech suit scene where he taps the chest and the suit morphs on around him gives him these glasses and says that they are Edith glasses and they come with the note for the next Iron Man I trust you that they are Edith glasses. And they come with the note,

For the next Iron Man, I trust you, Tony Stark. And Edith is an acronym that stands for Even Dead, I'm the Hero, which got a massive laugh out of the theater. And afterwards, I was like that kid, you know, the meme when they're like, Are you excited to go back to school? And he's like, Yes. Ha ha ha. No.

No. Like, I laughed and then I was like, Oh, God, I just laughed at Tony Stark's last joke. That was the last time I'm ever going to laugh at one of his jokes. But an awesome AI. They're like those Google glasses, like the whatever they're called. What happened to those things? Those are like the big – I thought those were going to change the world. Dude, those were like going to be a big thing for a while and then i think they

started banning him from places they were like you can't wear google glasses in here they like they saw donnie does video i was like no you can't do that yeah yeah but they were basically like those they're awesome and they start talking about the elementals and it's revealed that jake gyllenhaal mysterio is not from this world oh by the way the way he gets his name is they're just like he's a man of mystery and they happen to be in italy which is so fucking brilliant to give mysterio that comic book name there but they start talking about the elementals and he says they wiped away earth 833 which is where he comes from uh the molten or magma one, whatever that one, the fire one,

wiped away his Earth, killed his family. He's wearing a wedding ring, so you kind of feel bad for him up front. And we learn that we are on Earth 616, which is the Marvel Earth in the comics. Earth 833 in the comics is actually where Spider-Man from the UK is from. So that's a little self-referential. You know, hey, we're referencing that Spider-Man is in the UK in this movie. But he says, that monster destroyed my family. We have to make sure that one can't destroy your Earth.

They start gearing up and Peter Parker says, no thanks. I would rather just go on this field trip. He actually makes some decent points where he's like, everyone that I go to school with would know I'm Spider-Man because I was on a last field trip with him in Washington, D.C. Spider-Man saved them. If I saved them again, couldn't happen. Can I be honest here first, Rob? Yeah, be honest.

I was not very happy with our boy Spidey right here. You were disappointed in him? I was very upset. And I did understand his one excuse. I actually tipped my cap to him for being like, I can't do this because they'll find out I'm Spider-Man. I'm like, all right, that's a good excuse. As a very good excuse maker myself, I tipped my cap.

However, that guy's Iron Man died for this shit. He said you are the next Iron Man. I need you, Peter Parker. I need you to put that 16-year-old brain aside and step the fuck up and have another time for your life i understand you're stressed out and you're hurting we're all hurting because our dog tony stark died you gotta fucking come to the plate here pete you gotta you the mets when the mets need someone we need you to come through pete so i was very upset with him at this point very upset with my boy

peter tell you what everyone is upset with peter i mean nick fury was upset with peter actually mysterio was the only one that wasn't. And in this scene, they kind of have a bond where he says, you know, never apologize for being the smartest guy in the room when they start talking about the multiverse. And you're like, God damn, Jake Gyllenhaal. Even in the movie, my dumb ass who knew Mysterio was going to be a villain because why else wouldn't he be a villain was like, man, he is such a nice guy. I love their relationship. Even at the bar, I was like, what a frigging great relationship these two have. He might be the next Tony Stark.

Like, I convinced myself that Mysterio was the right guy to get those Edith glasses. I was like, fucking hand those glasses over. That's what Tony would have wanted, Peter. And I am a guy that has always said, if bitten by a radioactive spider that took away my anxiety, I would be a great Peter Parker. I think I would be awesome at it. Legitimately awesome. If it took away the anxiety.

I don't need any medicine. Just let me go to a fucking spider exhibit. Let me see if any of these things can cure me. Correct. And I would handle the responsibility very well. So he leaves him at that. He says, no, can't do it. Everyone in my class would know I'm Spider-Man.

I'm not going to Prague. Good luck. And by the way, can I just say, I don't know if your theater, did you get a good pop when Maria Hill went, huh, when they said smartest guy in the room? Theater lost it. They cracked up when they said... Oh, no. Oh, yeah. It was like a subtle joke, but everyone got it. I was like, good work, everyone.

That was a good fucking pop on that. Yeah. Our theater did not get that. But they leave it at that. He goes back to the hotel. He starts kind of more developing his relationship with MJ. And the next morning, it's revealed the entire field trip has been rerouted to Prague. And there's one of the best lines in the movie. And it is a John Hughes type line where Ned says, what just happened? And Peter says, I think Nick Fury just hijacked our field trip and they go to Prague with this guy Dimitri who people are

saying could be the chameleon a Spider-Man villain who could shapeshift and whatnot and that's why he was kind of understated in this movie they drive him to Prague he almost blows up Zendaya's other love interest on the way because on a rest stop where he gets his new suit his black Spider-Noir type, Ben comes in and he takes a picture of Spider-Man

with his pants down. Is this where he makes the cum joke? I missed the cum joke. I was promised a cum joke, Rob, and I'm sitting there next to my four-year-old daughter being like, I got to cover yours when this cum joke's about to come because I don't want her to ask me about it. It is where he makes the cum joke because he puts on the new suit and she says, how does it fit? And he says it's a little tight around the web shooter. Oh, I didn't want her to ask me about it. It is where he makes the cum joke because he puts on the new suit and she says, how does it fit? And he says it's a little tight around the web shooter.

Oh, I missed that. And he kind of grabs his groin. I mean, calling your dick the web shooter, that's a straight up cum joke. That's a cum joke. I missed. I'm very happy. First ever cum joke in the MCU. Unbelievable.

But very, very funny scene. What an upset. Very funny scene where she's telling him, take your clothes off. And he's like, right, right here. Can I go behind some? She's like, take your clothes off. Try this on. Ben walks in, he takes a picture. And then Peter using the Edith glasses is like, let's see what these babies can do. And he's like, can you delete a picture off Ben's phone? And Edith says, is Ben an enemy? And he's like, yes. And a drone strike from Stark Industries satellite comes down. And I laughed so loud when they cut to space and like this massive spaceship.

It looked like the Death Star or something. I'm like, really? Because this fucking idiot wants a picture off this kid's phone. But he's finally able to do it. And it's an awesome – it's such a Spider-Man sequence. Like I could imagine reading that whole sequence in a comic book. i was marking out big time when i saw the stark technologies or whatever i was definitely going crazy and like you said he's like basically just trying to protect ben from him from himself from his own fucking idiocy and he does a great job of it but it's

like he's just he's a he's a kid and that's why he may not be ready to be the next iron man but he has it in his soul is now i have a question your list of notes here is ben there's something up with ben here because we hear how he got he's better looking and he got stronger and he's so charming and he clearly like has it out for peter and those guys seldom just are like nice guys is this like another villain on his way coming here do you think of i have no idea it definitely could be though it's definitely a rival in terms of like they toned down peter's last rival the kid in homecoming who's in this one too he's a massive dick he's like a big spider-man fan but he hates peter forget his name streamer they yeah they toned down his hate on peter just a little bit in this movie

to ramp up ben's so i think ben is going to be an ongoing character in all of this. Okay. Okay. I don't know if he'll be a villain, but that would be crazy. Probably not though. They'll do Norman Osborn. They,

they have to, cause they mentioned someone bought Stark towers. And I think, I think that's gotta be Oscorp, right? I think that's gotta be Oscorp. Well, they mentioned it in homecoming.

Remember at the end of homecoming, they stole the, they, that was where Vulture was trying to steal all of Stark's cargo. It's because Stark sold the old Avengers headquarters to move to the new one. I missed that. But they go to Prague, and where the molten monster is going to attack is at this massive carnival. It's like a, almost a street fair looking carnival. And Peter, to get his friends out of the way, sends them to the opera, which is super funny because it's like an abandoned opera. It looks like it's only old people. And this is where your heart breaks for

him because MJ comes up to him and she's like, hey, you want to go in on a pair of binoculars and sit next to me? And he's like, yes. And then he gets Nick Fury in his ear being like, hey, you better get in position, Parker. And you're you're like god damn it he should just be able to stay at the opera with his love interest why does he have to do this right now like i felt pulled like i was like being pulled from two sides like god damn why can't i just pick one here it's always the way those things roll out though and then this is where you get the awesome fight with Mysterio and Spider-Man or the Night Monkey versus the Molten Monster. This is one of the coolest Spider-Man fights ever on the big screen, I think.

The way he worked together with Mysterio, it felt like a video game to me, how he was kind of drawing the lava monster away from metal and Mysterio was hitting it from the back. It seemed like an objective I would have to do in a Spider-Man video game. So I loved it. And they give you a big tease where he pulls something off the monster and MJ goes and

picks it up. So that was like a big after this scene's over, you're like, what the fuck's going on over there? My old ass was like, did I just see something there? Because I feel like I did and I was like, I probably just didn't see it, right? I didn't know what I was seeing either. I think that had to be on purpose because I had no idea what I was looking at

yeah and the Night Monkey that joke landed every single time that joke landed every single time the way Ned just panicked and he was like ah he's a rip off Night Monkey they call him and they start calling down and Peter Parker looks up like

what the fuck are you talking about Night Monkey and then on the news later so good so good Such a great fight scene. I loved all of the effects around Mysterio, by the way. The way they made the fishbowl look, the smoke inside of it, the green, like, smoke he was hitting him with, and then the big

noble sacrifice he hits, quote-unquote, at the end of this battle. So fucking good. Jake Gyllenhaal is great. And afterwards, they go to a pub, grab a drink together, and Peter hits a great I'm not 21 joke, which I was like, man, this is the most relatable thing I've ever seen in my entire life. And this is where he hands over the glasses. He interprets the message, the note that he received as,

hey man, Tony Stark trusted me, but he would never trust a 16-year-old. He trusted me to pick who these should belong to. And he gives them over, and the second that happens, that's when my mind ramped back into this is the bad guy mode and he walks out of the bar and everything disappears all the drinks weren't really there and only half the people were really there and you're like oh shit how far does this run here's where we get the backstory so what did you think in your mind when this was happening yeah so i'm going in with really no idea about mysterio because i had no idea what was going i knew he was a villain and but i also was like it wouldn't shock me if by some chance they he's just a good guy for a movie or two and there's someone else is the villain so i honestly had no idea it was going and then as i'm seeing like it

it's it's kind of like when the red wedding started i'm like oh no i know that song oh no oh no and it just kept getting worse and worse and then when they do when they did like the like round of applause or whatever it was like my heart sunk to like the bottom of my body yeah and then also like hey man that was fucking good work like i almost had like i took like i applauded for him as i was like booing him like I it just ripped me apart and that is the sign of a great villain is it makes you feel like anger plus like admiration at the same time and I hated him at this point like the anger was so real especially because that was the last thing that Tony Stark gave to Peter Parker it was almost like no that's mine like it holds sentimental value to me like that those glasses being in the hands of Peter Parker holds sentimental value to the MCU's fans. So we're like, give it back.

Like, you took something that belongs to us. That does not belong to you. And the length at which they fleshed out the backstory here, and they gave him such a classic, almost campy villain monologue, where he explained everything he was doing, and they showed flashbacks, and he's standing on top of the bar and saying cheers to Mysterio and they reveal that Mysterio and everyone in this bar were working as a team of former Stark Industries employees that were disgruntled with the way Tony ran things so uh Gyllenhaal's character, Quentin Beck himself was the one that came up with the technology we saw in civil war where yes, barf, where it was, uh, Tony could see, you know, his memories from the past. And another person came up with Tony's suit and another person came up with this and another person came up with this and they all had their own things. One of which we flashed back to iron man one. And it was actually Ralphie from A Christmas Story. I didn't even realize that's who the actor is.

But getting yelled at by Obadiah Stane and he is a part of the team now with Quentin Beck. He's kind of Quentin Beck's right hand man. So my mind was exploding the entire time this is unfolding in a way where I'm like, oh my god, I hate this guy. I hate this guy. He's taking everything. He's taking everything from Peter. What's Peter going to do? And oh my god god he's so strong

and you realize everything we've seen elemental wise has been an illusion and they're basically all visual effects artists which is the coolest fucking villain team ever it's like what a bunch of nerds yeah that's another reason why I loved it like again the backstory makes the

villain as well and it's like these guys were all legitimately disgruntled people that felt like they were the right people and tony stark and probably like the avengers they hated and they had a very fair gripe and they were going to do it their own way for their own reasons and it was very end gamey for lack of a better term where it was getting these old flashbacks which it and it wasn't even fan service it was like legitimately part of the story and like gyllenhaal isn't really in um where was it oh civil war he's like behind tony stark no you don't see him in like the background okay i wanted to make sure i didn't miss that but um all that other stuff and you're seeing this and you're seeing iron man one and it was just so

i i have no other word for it other than endgamey where it's like you're going back and getting part of the old things which kind of makes sense if this is the last part of the stage of the MCU, where you can still go to that, where it doesn't feel like too much of a throwback. And I just absolutely loved it. And I also think, Sony, this might have us use Spider-Man for the next couple of movies because they're so important to the entire storytelling, we are going to make it back to you because you will get part of our catalogs for some of this shit. And it made this movie so much better being able to use MCU stuff instead of just having to use like Tobey Maguire dancing. Yes. Yes. But after this, Peter goes back to the hotel and he apologizes to MJ and he's like, hey, do you want to go on a walk?

Like, I've wanted to tell you something. i want this field trip to continue and she says yes right away and you're kind of like oh shit maybe mj likes him just as much as he likes her and even though it's peter parker and mj they're destined to be together i know for a fact that they will be together during the movie i was rooting for him so hard i was like come on you're nailing this interaction bro you got i was i felt like it was wingmanning for him through my seat. But they go on the walk, and he's like, listen, I've had this whole plan. I've gotten sidetracked. I've wanted to tell you forever.

She goes, yeah, you're Spider-Man. And he's like, what? No? Huh? What? No? Huh? No?

She's like, yeah, you are. It makes sense. You snuck away in Washington. You snuck away here. You sneak away all the time and he eventually has to confess to her because the piece she took from that fight was a projector off a drone and then you cut back they cut back as soon as they show that to the newest test of the new elemental that's going to attack london and it's like all of them combined so it's a little bit of fire it's a them combined. So it's a little bit of fire.

It's a little bit of rain. It's a little bit of this. It looked like a cloud elemental, basically, like a storm one. And it looked awesome. And they show the drones firing in and the damage. And he's like, how about you double the damage on that run through, hold back, pause.

Like it's a production they're putting on. They've rented out a theater. It is so cool. And then they cut back and everything adds up for everyone. This was the moment that we had in Homecoming where he opened the door and Vulture was his date's dad.

Where it was like, okay, everything is kicked into high gear right now because at this moment, Mysterio also finds out that Peter Parker knows through cameras or drones or whatever. He knew that he found out. They both knew that the other one knew, and it was just a mad race. So he goes, puts on the Spider Noir suit, tells MJ everything.

Ned and MJ have a very funny back and forth about being people that know Spider-Man, his true identity. If you are, you know, NBA world, they're insiders now. Yes. And there's that great scene where he's like uh i gotta put the suit on if you want to turn around and she's like kind of peeking like hey what you got peter parker what's going on yo that let me just say this is the best part of what these m like these marvel movies do it's the human moments yeah there's and like you're feeling you're

feeling it with him when she says yes i want to go out but then she kind of twists the knife in you when she's like oh no i was just following you because i thought you were oh yeah that was the other thing where yeah she's sneaking a peek like that girl sneaked a peek at you at the star wars thing remember she was oh the girl that was looking bb great yeah exactly yeah there's a there's a like and all those dynamics and the thing with her and ned and those are like the two most important people's life there's all these moments as he's also like has this thread of mysterio who also likes peter parker as a person so there's all these just real he's also like has this thread of Mysterio who also likes Peter Parker as a person. So there's all these just real human emotions that is so like the DC universe is so like just one dimensional, not even two dimensional.

Or this is like ten dimensional going at you where you're feeling all these feelings inside as like a goddamn comic book movie is on the screen. It's incredible. And there's such a good line that Jake Gyllenhaal delivers when he finds out that Peter Parker knows because he actually does like Peter Parker as a guy. And he looks up at his right-hand man and he screams at him. And he's like, I just want you to know when I have to kill Peter Parker because of this,

his blood will be on your hands. And everyone in the room is just like, oh, holy shit, this has gone beyond the level that any of us were prepared for Spider-Man goes to Berlin now to tell Fury what he's learned and he starts talking to Fury and quickly Fury's not there

and it's all an illusion created by Mysterio and this nice office building this nice shield building is like an abandoned parking garage or something and this whole sequence and this fight scene is one of the coolest fight scenes we've ever gotten in the MCU. And I think it's my favorite visual effects sequence I've ever seen in the MCU.

The only one that I would put maybe in front of it is the one from Doctor Strange where New York City is folding in on itself like Inception style. And they're running from building to building. That one's really cool. This one reminded me the most of Rey's force vision in the Force Awakens how she kind of doesn't

know what's real and it's taking her through a bunch of scenarios and you're seeing characters that we know we saw a skeleton of Iron Man that was creepy as fuck he was like a zombie we saw Captain America statues turned down he hits him with that line and says maybe if you were better tony would be alive right now and everyone in the theater was

like oh like you don't bring that you don't bring that up that ain't cool and the scenes where spider-man is trapped in it's an all black background and there's these massive shards of glass falling all around him that from mysterio's helmet that all felt like the visual effects team going all right we're gonna animate comic book covers like you could totally see that being the cover of a comic yes the whole thing was so cool down to okay he snapped out of it but he didn't and the next viewer he saw was also an illusion and Jake Gyllenhaal is standing there in a motion capture suit like they know we know what mocap suits look like so he's standing there in one what did you think of this because i assume you loved as much as i did this might have been the greatest part of the

whole movie i so i didn't even get to properly enjoy it because i just felt so hopeless during it like when you're that is yeah how you feel you feel completely hopeless because the peter tingle is not there it's not working the peter tingle is not tingling and yeah it's like you could see a superhero just get his ass kicked like when thanos beats the shit out of the hulk in infinity war and stuff like that but when the guy is like he's just like throwing jabs at peter basically but he's just completely mind fucking him and then it's like and then every time you're like all right we got out of it and it's like no it's actually going to a whole new level so i just felt so hopeless and then again the the psychological warfare with the the tony line and then tony with half i mean you see the goddamn skeleton i'm like i know it's now just worm food and he's literally a skeleton

and then i'm just like now i'm sad i'm in real life. And knowing it was created by a guy that hates his guts too and hates that the world is worshipping him. Like everything about that. I know. Everything about it was heartbreaking and you feel hopeless and you're like, how is he going to snap out of this? You got to get the spider sense. And he actually mysterio backs Peter Parker into a train, an oncoming train. And you're like, holy fuck. He just got hit by a train. He just got disintegrated. you're like, holy fuck, he just got hit by

a train. He just got disintegrated. He brought back. I mean, if he was Catman, he needs to be Catman so he could have like nine lives. I was like the Regina George there when she gets hit by the bus. Yes, literally stunning. And then and the way they shot it, too, where like he's just coming out of it as he gets hit.

So you're kind of just coming out of it and you don't know what's happening. He wakes up in the Netherlands. Very funny scene where he's in a jail cell with a bunch of football hooligans, and the cop is wearing his mask. And he calls Happy Hogan. Happy Hogan drops down. And this is where Marvel takes your heartstrings, and they fucking rip them all out. Because Peter's on the plane. He's crying to Happy about giving the glasses away and endangering people.

And endangering especially the people he cares about. There's such a classic Spider-Man line he says to MJ when he swings out to go to Berlin for the first time. And he says, don't tell anyone you know, anyone who does know is in danger. And that's why Spider-Man wears the mask. They make a point of that to say it in Into the Spider-Verse. It's not because Peter Parker's afraid, it's because everyone around him is in danger if they know so he's bawling his eyes out and he's saying i disappointed tony and happy says tony wouldn't have done what he did if he didn't know you were going to be around when it got done or whatever and he starts kind of consoling him peter parker's

hysterical i'm hysterical it was all thing and well, I need a suit. They formulate a game plan and then Peter Parker gets to go build the suit. Fucking Happy Hogan hits the switch on back in black, ACDC, and Peter Parker looks up at him and says, I love Led Zeppelin! And Happy Hogan just looked at him and he just

seems so proud and so happy with Peter Parker clearly looking like Tony Stark using Stark Industries technology to build himself a suit and that was the scene I mean if that didn't make you well up a little get that little apple in your throat you have no heart no heart I was gonna ask what was the Robbie you know precipitation that was the moment that was the moment out of everything in the movie that really got me yeah Yeah. And again, like this, they take you for these emotional,

just like rollercoasters. It starts in the jail with the Netherlands hooligans who are like, awesome. Like they're like very funny. Like, and you feel like they're just buddies. There's like, and then you go to the guy where you say night monkey and like,

in like the accent and stuff like that. Then the fucking, the flowers were incredible. Yeah. And then you have like the most emotional incredible and the the flower beds and then you have like the most emotional scene in the movie up in a fucking airplane as they're twisting it and like tom holland plays the role of a young robert down or a young tony stark i guess a young robert downey jr incredible because he's just the way he's swiping with all the little computers

he knows how to use everything there's no hesitation in any button he's pressing like it's so fucking brilliant and i guess it is probably easy for him because it's the VFX team that has to do the heavy lifting. But it's so good. When he has just that, like, gauntlet thing on his wrist and he's swiping through everything, he looks exactly like a young Tony Stark in Happy Hogan. Kind of the look he gives him is like, oh, shit, Tony was right. You are the next Tony Stark. Like, that's crazy so and again the Led Zeppelin line like that's like just enough of like the comedic you know relief he's like and

then the other thing I think he said was like it's a if it's not a Star Wars reference you won't get it yes that's our guy man yeah that's our fucking guy so we go back to London and Beck is orchestrating the next attack which is going to happen on the London Bridge. The water's going to be all splashy. It's going to come down with a storm, and he also wants to kill Mary Jane, Ned, and Ned's girlfriend, who Spider-Man said may have known, and they tapped into his phone and figured that out. So the plan is Happy Hogan needs to go save Peter's friends,

and Peter is going to dive into the illusion itself and try to use this new suit he's crafted which is pretty fucking fire if we're being honest the black and red it pretty much just looks like his suit from homecoming but it's black instead of uh blue has like the flying squirrel to it too has the flying squirrel it has the electro shock in it he he built it pretty customized I did see other ones where I was like oh shit pick that other one pick that other secret wars one that I haven't seen in the trailer yet. I was like, did they hide a suit from us?

I was really hoping for that at the end. But he dives in like the flying squirrel. He starts webbing all the drones together inside the illusion, which is super cool. And then as they start exploding and malfunctioning and you see the illusion fading away, those are some of the coolest shots in the movie too. Because it's like, oh my god, this is so crazy. Happy's trying to save the friends and he has that line we talked about on the podcast last time that i love so much where happy says i work with spider-man and the streamer's like you work with spider-man he's like with spider-man not for spider-man and i loved i loved how they called it back with the with the friends how originally when the the first bus driver the

guy who might be the chameleon takes him where then it's this time it's mysterious guys being the guys that are taking them yes oh they just pulled that trick on me again except and it's like these like the class has no idea the danger they're in right now or like why they're being moved where it's like this whole time they're just being used as pawns by nick fury or you know we'll go into that later or mysterious people so um and i just like it it was just so cool i loved how they put this in i didn't think of this going in it was so nice just to see like new york or another piece of america get blown up it was cool seeing other parts of like the world in europe in this case getting blown up for once and getting into the question because this was one that somebody sent in

blimeysaurus actually wrote in and said why did did it take place in Europe and not New York City? New York City is so iconic for the neighborhood Spider-Man. The Europe location was by far the worst part to me. It didn't add to the story. I thought it did because I thought, like you, it was refreshing. How many fucking Spider Garfield movies in New York. We had the first one in New York. We had Into the Spider-Verse in New York. I think the change of scenery was good for that. And I also think it added more to Beck's story than it did Peter's. I think it was kind of, Beck was making a point to say he was gearing up for a big New York Avengers style attack. So he was attacking London where the Avengers wouldn't be on purpose so i think like all of that folding in i think london was definitely the right place to do this and like you said it was just cool to see like oh shit the london bridge is being attacked right now and that's where the school bus was we and we've seen it in all so many i mean the the original avenger like new york is always a centerpiece for so many of these movies. Even if it didn't have to be those

European places, it could have been anywhere. I know Wakanda is going to probably be a spot for a few more battles coming up. I'm sure New York is going to be there and there's going to be some other stuff. I was just happy we got out of there. They even just went back to New York in Endgame too. There's such a large chunk of that that's in New York.

I was a big fan of the change of scenery. This is where Peter runs out of webs that's in New York. So I was a big fan of the change of scenery. But this is where Peter runs out of webs eventually. He starts getting kind of murked. And all of his friends are running away. They go into this castle-type museum with Happy. They go behind a vault and all start confessing things. And Happy confesses that he's in love with Aunt May, which is hysterical because everyone's like, what?

He's like, I'm in love with Spider-Man's aunt. They're like, what? He's like, I'm in love with Spider-Man's aunt. They're like, what? He's like, I'm sorry. I thought we were confessing. Yo, how good was when he threw the shield and it went like two feet? Yes. How does it make sense? That might have been the hardest laugh in the entire movie for me because he throws the shield and especially it's like a shitty, rusty, old-timey medieval shield.

So it just kind of plumps on the ground and rolls. He's like, how did he do that? That made me laugh so hard but that was great and then spider-man starts getting i loved this is when i really started marking out when his suit started getting destroyed and ripped up i was like oh shit that's like spider-man to spider-man when he's in the fight with doc ock he runs out of webs and he eventually the only thing he can use to defeat mysterio is the peter tingle the spidey sense so he destroys a lot of the drones he goes up into the tower where mysterio was controlling them from and he goes through another one of like we saw previously these crazy dream sequences where he's being dropped into places and doesn't know what's real and what's

not but he uses his spider sense which finally kicks in it was like his moment from thor ragnarok where they say what are you the god of brother and he doesn't need his hammer because he's using his lightning like he doesn't need his webs because he's using his spidey sense it's in him all along so he finally gets to beck down the end of the hallway and he catches a gunshot and then the gunshot somehow hits beck i think he really does get hit by the drone's bullets at some point. So I think that's where he's bleeding out. But he does, like, transfer to another thing at some point. He does do that. Now, am I crazy or did we get a Captain America endgame throwback?

Because Spidey has the shield and he has the hammer. Oh, yeah, I thought about that as well. Yeah, when he puts together the bomb and the shield yeah and i said oh my god i got goosebumps just thinking about it yeah i'm pretty sure that's a callback to fucking endgame i'm i am in a fucking goose bump orgy right now just thinking yeah so i mean that was absolutely incredible and it i think that is how the sequence went by the way i think he does get hit by a drone. Like you said, he gets a ricochet shot off one of his own drones, and then he tries to shoot Spider-Man. And Spider-Man stops that from happening but watches him seemingly die. Later we find out he's probably not dead.

And the way that they kind of go about all these different ways is just absolutely perfect. Yeah. When it comes, when you think, oh, they got him. Oh, they got him again. And then when he grabs the gun and the whole thing going on with Nick Fury as all this is going on where Maria Hill takes down the drone. And Happy calls in and says, that surfboard, you know, surfboard's yours. Things are not what they appear to be, I guess. But they even say, like, the coded message because, like because idiots like me is like, did he get it or did he

not get it? It's like, yeah, you idiot, they got it. You fucking moron. And at the end of the movie, Spider-Man returns back to New York, and we get one of the most iconic Spider-Man visuals of all time, and that's him swinging through the air of New York City, swinging through the skyline

with Mary Jane alongside him. He's holding on to her. Now, I saw someone say he swung past what used to be used in the old Spider-Man movies as Oscorp's, not like Oscorp, but Norman Osborn's penthouse. Okay. So there's the potential that they put that in there on purpose. And some people were even saying, if you look in the background very closely, you can see Quentin Beck following him. And they said in the scenes earlier on in the movie, too, if you go back, all of Beck's people are following him on the trip.

All of the people in that bar. I did notice at one point, I did notice it was actually before the water monster. I was like, oh, shit, Is he about to get his pocket picked? It was when he gets the, I think, a flower for her. There's definitely someone coming out there. Wow. There's definitely some shit. God damn.

We got to get this Chinese bootleg copy. We really do. And now what I've really, really, really been waiting to talk about forever. The post-credits scene. Post-credits scene. The first one picks up exactly where we went to credits in the first place. Peter had just dropped Mary Jane off right by Madison Square Garden. And they look to the Madison Square Garden screens right outside the arena.

And it's the news. I think it's like Fox News. And they're like, we have shocking footage today. Turn your kids away. It might be disturbing from the recent attack in London. And it's doctored footage from Mysterio that we saw his right hand man upload that makes it look

like Spider-Man called the drone strike in and that Spider-Man killed him it's kind of crazy because in the original version of Mysterio I think Mysterio's first ever act against Spider-Man was he made it look like Spider-Man robbed like a store in the mall by

turning into him and then taking things and then on the security cam they're like fuck Spider-Man like what a menace to society so I love that they put that in the movie that Mysterio is actually framing Spider-Man for a crime in this and then they cut to fucking J.K. Simmons of all people

as J. Jonah Jamison or as I like to call him at this point, J. Jonah Jones, because he's Alex Jones. Straight up InfoWars background, InfoWars papers, InfoWars font. It's thedailybugle.net instead of thedailybugle now. And he fucking reveals that Spider-Man is Peter Parker. And they just show a picture of Peter Parker on the screen, and they cut back to Spider-Man is Peter Parker. And they just show a picture of Peter Parker on the screen, and they cut back to Spider-Man, and he goes, what the f-

But, oh my god, and it's not even what was done, Clem. It's not even the fact that his identity is now out there. It was the way they did it for me. Because I'm laughing, I'm smiling, I'm like, Peter Parker and MJ swinging through New York, the couples together, Spider-Man is exactly what I want it to be, what a fantastic movie. Oh my god, J. Spider-Man is exactly what I want it to be. What a fantastic movie.

Oh, my God. J.K. Simmons is back. That's crazy. You never would have thought they brought him back. Oh, my God. My heart has been ripped out of my chest, and I will never recover from this. I need Spider-Man 3 like I need air to breathe, and I need it now. They nailed it, man.

They nailed those post-credits. To everyone who stopped listening, wet, and now you listened, aren't you happy you stayed for those post-credits? Aren't you happy you listened to us? You got to get the app too. There's an app for like – does the post – I mean any Marvel movie you'll look up beforehand. But there is actually an app. It's called After Credits, and it just tells you if there is, and then people rate it, thumbs up and thumbs down. And both post-credits, 95 percent in terms of approval rating.

Well, I put the call out there. I said, is this the best post-credits scene 95% in terms of approval rating. Well, I put the call out there. I said, is this the best post-credit scene in Marvel Cinematic Universe history? And I got a resounding yes. I'm sorry. The first post-credits could have been like the start of an entire movie, and now it's like the most massive cliffhanger. It's the most massive cliffhanger ever because it's like, oh, my God, how many more years is it going to be until we get the third one? It's great. Like you said, how important that is of why he can't be known.

Like happy says, I mean, you don't Peter Parker, everyone is now in danger that knows Peter Parker. And now it's just sitting out there like a stale fart for God knows how much year, how many years it's crazy. And I also love little things like the daily bugle now being a website

instead of a newspaper. It's it's like anytime superhero movies evolve with the times while still keeping, you know, the remnants of it. I absolutely love it. And it's perfect down to the whole InfoWars stuff. It was tremendous. And that they definitely took from the Spider-Man PS4 game. He is straight up Alex Jones, even more than he was in the movie in the PS4 game,

because he hosts a radio show where he's like a conspiracy theorist against Spider-Man. So after that, we got another great post-credits scene where they cut to Nick Fury and Maria Hill driving away, or so we thought, because the entire time they've been Skrulls. They've been Talos and Soren the entire movie, and they call up Nick Fury. They let him know things have gone awry. They're like – he's like, hey, give him the glasses. Things went a little bit different after that. So we're going to need

you back here. And they cut to Nick Fury on vacation, like on a beach. Got a huge pop from the crowd. Like everyone laughed so hard for that.

And then he gets up and says, everyone back to work. And the beach goes away. And it's revealed that he's on a spaceship with like hundreds and hundreds of Skrulls. Possibly setting up S.W.O.R. hundreds of Skrulls possibly setting up S.W.O.R.D.

Clem, do you know what S.W.O.R.D. is? I do not know what S.W.O.R.D. is. S.W.O.R.D., much like SHIELD, is an acronym for Sentient World Observation and Response Department. And also the way we could set up secret wars with the Skrulls coming down and turning into certain superheroes, supervillains, pitting them against each other. I think they just teased not only bringing S.W.O.R.D. into the MCU but bringing in secret wars with that second post-credits scene. Yeah, a lot of what I've been reading is how after Captain Marvel, it's basically the Kree versus the Skrull, the war, the Kree and all that stuff. And the Kree could be the big baddie, you know, or at least an entity instead of, you know, I don't know who would the big baddie be if it's going to be a Galactus or something else. And this universe has now turned. We've gone to space, motherfuckers, and it ain't coming.

It ain't getting smaller. It's only going to get bigger. I also loved how, like, they just kept misdirecting. Oh's not nick fury oh he's on a beach oh he's not on a beach so they just keep they keep the balls in the air man and they just keep you guessing and i loved it i also was reading how this might have meant nick fury wasn't around um for endgame or the infinity war which i wouldn't love i want the real nick fury to have been a part of that where i guess there are some things in at least this movie that you can kind of, when you go back and rewatch, which I'm sure

you're going to do in like an hour because you're a crazy person, you could kind of be like, oh, that's definitely not Nick Fury. But it also kind of makes you feel better that like Nick Fury wasn't so incompetent that he kept falling for fucking, you know, mysterious tricks. Yes, absolutely. I like the way they did it. And I'm sure this will be canonized eventually, like, nope, Nick Fury was just Talos for this movie.

And I think he was just for this movie. But it also fixes something going back years into the MCU. So in Captain Marvel, when she sits him down and says, tell me something that nobody else would know about you. He says, I can't cut my sandwiches diagonally. I can't eat a diagonally cut sandwich. In Age of Ultron, we see him cutting a diagonally

cut sandwich. You can completely fix that by saying, for that scene, he was Talos. So, if you want to work your headcanon, you could basically fix things and choose where you want to go with that. Moving on to questions now got a couple questions and we've been going for a while

and when we record these things i have to turn my air conditioner off so it's not too loud i'm dying over here we'll try to get through them pretty quickly the first one is the biggest one blake writes in and says guys how do you think they are going to handle Peter's identity being revealed? Before we get into our answers, Clem, because I've been thinking about it for a long time, and to be quite honest, I have no idea. I went into the archives, and I googled things, and I found a great article on Nerdist about all of the times in the comic books that Peter Parker's identity has been revealed. So I got a few, like, basically a SparkNotes version of what happens in the comics books that Peter Parker's identity has been revealed. So I got a few, like, basically a SparkNotes version of what happens in the comics when that happens. The most notorious villain who found out

the truth was the Green Goblin, obviously. He found out his secret, kind of made Peter's life a living hell, and killed Gwen Stacy. We saw that happen in The Amazing Spider-Man 2, and this is one of the biggest storylines that there's ever been for Spider-Man, obviously.

After Goblin, Jackal found it out, who famously cloned Peter Parker, along with Venom, Chameleon, and Kraven the Hunter, who is Chameleon's half-brother. Black Cat found out. This one's really bad. She was his love interest, and then she dumped him because she was interested in, like, a badass Spider-Man. And when she found out, he was—here's the line. She was attracted to a, a badass Spider-Man, and when she found out he was – here's the line. She was attracted to a sexy and dangerous Spider-Man, but after finding out he is really ordinary Peter Parker, she just dumps him. Oh, that's a double whammy.

That's hitting your ego as a Spider-Man and as Peter Parker. That's really tough. Venom sexually assaults Mary Jane when he finds out, which I don't think they'll bring into the MCU. I would be stunned. That won't lie. Kraven buries him alive. Jesus Christ. marry Jane when he finds out, which I don't think they'll bring into the MCU. I would be stunned. Craven buries him alive. Jesus Christ! Yep, just bad things happen to Spider-Man. But, here's the kicker on all of the

ones I just mentioned. They all kept it to themselves. J. Jonah Jameson once discovered the truth, and Peter convinced him that he had been the subject to a hoax. Now, I think that could work in the MCU. That being said, all of Peter's classmates would probably not believe it.

Because when they start putting everything together, they're going to be like, well, it makes a whole ton of sense for him to be Spider-Man after you say that. Now, here's the big one. It says the first time Spider-Man was unmasked to the entire public as Peter Parker, it was due to Dr. Octopus. He pulled his mask off right in front of everybody. And nobody believed

that the scrawny and nerdy Peter Parker could really be Spider-Man. It didn't help that Peter had temporarily lost the use of his powers, so he couldn't perform any spider feats. After that, everyone believed they had been punked. The biggest reveal they ever did was by Peter Parker himself in 2006

in the Civil War comic book. Basically, in the comic book version of Civil War, when they're talking about these Sokovia Accords and should superheroes be regulated by the government, Tony Stark convinces Peter Parker to do the same exact thing that he did and reveal himself. And he does, and it is a colossal disaster. And they basically went back on it in the entire comic book, not because it didn't work in the Marvel world, but because it was just not a good storyline, which makes me a little nervous about where they're going to go. But if they made the decision this early to reveal Peter Parker's identity at the end of Far From Home, I think they're well prepared for what's coming next. Yeah, me too. Me too. I'm not going to lie to you rob i am like we basically discussed

how multiple times how much we love this mj combo he has and i'm like now i'm scared something's either bad's gonna happen to her or it's gonna ruin their relationship i was really just happy for my guy pete and it was like he got everything set at home and now he can handle all his other problems professionally and he is in a fucking hell of a pickle because you know it may be a danger thing where she just can't do it anymore with him or because it's not like she's like head over heels in love with him too i think that's the good thing about her like she doesn't like oh i i she doesn't get off on like just being flinged around the city with him she's no she actually doesn't like it yeah yeah so i i like that and or god forbid you know she suffers the gwen stacy And, like, this is a Mary Jane we can get behind,

and, like, she may not be long for this universe, and I'm kind of terrified of that. So, you know what, they do a great job of, like, Jonah is now, like, he's the villain. You can't even laugh at him because he's an asshole. He fucking ruined Peter's life. Yeah. Brayden Hallich writes in and says is the second

post-credit scene is set up for the next infinity war in 10 years with the scroll secret invasion we kind of touched on that earlier i believe it is and zach and codis wrote in and said did you notice fury slash talos mentioned kree sleeper cells and i did so i think that like you said clem is going to be the kree scrollSkrull invasion slash war. And what do we think about that? Because I'm very torn on it, because I think we've talked about this on the pod. I like Captain Marvel. I think there was a better movie in there that they could have done, but I think it's tough

when you're doing a whole origin story and all that stuff. I don't love the Skrulls in the Krees. I do like them, and I do think there is some comedic stuff, and I like having a badass villain like the Krees. But I'm going to need a lot more. I'm going to need them basically to be the background, to be almost like the – what was Thanos' army called?

Like those crazy creatures? The Children of Thanos? Or no, the Itch Atari? Itch Atari, yeah. Like I need them to be like the souped-up Itch Atari where I'm going to need some big guys kind of leading the way. And I apologize. We have the sounds of New York City. You've had AJ screaming his guts off.

So if anyone wants to know why AJ drives me crazy, you've heard it this entire time. Bottom of the power rankings. Tweety McTweederson says, weren't you a little surprised Osborne wasn't introduced at all? Seems like there's at least two more movies to get to the Sinister Six, right? They can take their sweet ass time to get to the Sinister Six, right? They can take their sweet-ass time to get to the Sinister Six, for all I'm concerned. Do what you're doing right now. I said, I think on Twitter, that they have been throwing a perfect game so far. In 10 years, Peter Parker could be the most established character in movie history, with the amount of movies he's been in, with the amount of times we've seen him in other people's movies. everything about him

i think take your time with peter parker osborne will if i had to guess be in the next one but maybe he won't be and i wouldn't have an issue with that either no i'm with you on that uh i i feel like there's some of these guys that we've met there's there's villain potential don't know which one is which and i do feel like i don't think i think there's a chance we could get like a traditional spider-man villain introduced in a different movie. That's not even a Spider-Man movie. You know, and I think you said Sony has to be so happy with the way this is going after the last few Spider-Mans before, you know, Tom Holland came in that it's like just stay the course, believe in the vision and trust the process for lack of a better term. finally ginger rail writes in and says just a thought that since mysterio was a sham and actually not from another dimension we don't know of a true multiverse existence in the mcu officially

could miles eventually come from another timeline perhaps or how would he be introduced so here's my theory on this my theory is that there still is a multiverse and that because of what jake gyllenhaal said that will will spawn Peter Parker to discover it. Tony Stark's big discovery was time travel. And now that Peter Parker, in his brain, has kind of thought a little more about a multiverse, he'll take into consideration, all right, we don't have it, but maybe that'll be the cause for him discovering the multiverse. Maybe he even brings in the Fantastic Four or something like that. Something crazy. I think that would be cool, though. And I think there's only benefits that can come from a multiverse in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. You know what I mean?

Yeah, no, I'm with you. I kind of like the idea that when he was like, it's so ridiculous, people will believe anything. And I was like, yeah, that's basically what my Twitter timeline was for like the hour after. Yeah, we were like, multiverse. Now, my question is, this is my question. we didn't get a stan lee appearance right this was the first without first one without stan yeah which i am on the record saying i thought endgame should have been the last one even though it wasn't the last of that stage and i kind of i'm not happy stan lee's no longer with us but i'm happy they wrapped it up in that way, especially with like it was in such an important part of the entire film that I was just like, R.I.P. my dog, Stanley. R.I.P. our dog, Stanley.

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