My Mom's Basement - QUARANTINE MINI-POD: "BEHIND THE MUSIC FANDOM: OASIS” WITH NATE

Episode Date: May 1, 2020

Nate from Barstool joins Robbie in the Basement on Maine Road Anniversary week to discuss his Oasis fandom, the band's "new" demo released just this week, Liam and Noel's post-Oasis solo careers, and the two rank their Top 10 Favo(u)rite Oasis Songs.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/mymomsbasement

Hey My Mom's Basement listeners, you can find our episodes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube, and Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Joining me is Nate, Eric Nathan from Barstool, the biggest Oasis fan that I know. I compare it to you are right now. What I was sophomore, junior year of college. So we're talking 2000, 90. I graduated college in 2010 and I studied abroad. I told you this. I studied abroad junior year in London, not because I wanted, I lied to my mom and I told her

that I had always dreamed of studying abroad. It was a bold-faced lie. I don't like leaving my apartment, nevermind studying abroad. Yeah, that doesn't seem like you at all. But Oasis was touring Europe and I wanted to see them in London. So I lied and I said,

I've always dreamed of studying abroad. Like who picks Londonondon like you go to barcelona australia whatever i pick i don't know london seems like a cool city to me at least i don't know yeah london's just rock and roll to me that's like what i think of i think led zeppelin beatles fucking like all those iconic pictures yeah london is sick but no no no little kid dreams of studying abroad in london it's like in the fog and rain like no yeah so we're we're gonna talk about that we're gonna talk about your fan and we're gonna No little kid dreams of studying abroad in London. It's like in the fog and rain. Like, no. Yeah, so we're going to talk about that.

We're going to talk about your fandom. We're going to talk about how I sort of got into Oasis pretty recently. But the first thing we can talk about is we just had an Oasis release this week. It's not a new song, but it's a song from 15 years ago that Noel found digging around unmarked CDs, he said, in quarantine. It's called Don't stop the only prior recording was from like a shitty sound check in hong kong the recording was really bad and like it was all over the place the song itself pretty fucking cool it's cool to have like an oasis song

come out and be like oh it's the new oasis song uh we talked about it off air we talked about it like we were texting when it came out is Is it Champagne Supernova Reinvented? No. Is it a good song though? Yeah, definitely. Is it better than anything I've heard from Noel since at least his second album? Definitely. Yeah, no.

My original listen, I had medium expectations and it met my medium expectations. It was exactly, that was in the time, I believe around like Don't Believe the Truth sessions. And I think Noel was- I kept thinking, like I was trying to line up where that was in the Oasis timeline. I think somewhere around there. And I think Noel was really trying to write that next great ballad around those times.

That's when like Let There Be Love was like, he really thought Let There Be Love was the new Wonderwall. Which I do like that song it's not a bad song but you can really and he's still trying to do it to be honest he still really wants to write that one more great song and that's what that song sounds i i think the chorus is great i think the message is great it ran on especially right now like it's sort of it does fit it makes sense when he released it you and me were talking i was like is he releasing that because he's getting the itch i don't think he is after what i'm saying all that no i mean he's always this is one of those bands i have always stuck by in both professional wrestling which we're fans of and music if someone leaves wwe eventually they'll be back and if some band breaks up

eventually they'll reunite oasis some band breaks up eventually they'll reunite oasis may be the exception to that rule i hope that they're not i would like to see them one day but they really may after what i'll tell you this like they're as close to like professional wrestling as a band gets like yeah they they keep kayfabe but at the same time like i don't know if they're texting behind the scenes. I'm probably not. But there's always a chance. Yeah, because that is part of the intrigue. Like, especially since, so talking about like my Oasis fandom, I would say in high school, that's when I discovered Oasis, at least beyond Wonderwall.

And it was. I'm not saying this as a joke. That's four years ago. Legit. Yeah, I graduated 2016. Okay. So I would say I discovered that maybe my freshman or sophomore year, and it was just, what's the story throughout pretty much all of high school. Yeah. Just that album loved the entire album, but never really, I probably knew a few songs off be here now,

maybe something off definitely maybe, and then maybe stop crying your heart out. Like the songs that you would know. When I saw the documentary Supersonic, that's when everything changed. And I think that is the same case for a lot of people my age. At least that's from interviews with Noel and Liam.

Both of them say that, like the younger fan base at their shows. They're like, I think it's probably because of that documentary. It's on Netflix currently. If you have never seen it, it's just called Oasis Supersonic. It's a unique documentary in that all of the narration, they'll never cut to interviews. That like throws people off always when I recommend it.

It's just straight narration, but it's my favorite music documentary ever. And that took me to, oh my God, I am quote unquote mad for it. I'm going to discover everything that these guys have ever done. I'm going to dig as deep as I possibly could. I'm going to listen to all those demos, all those shitty soundcheck recordings, all of the bootlegs. I'm going to go back, try to find the archives of the fan forums

from back in the day. Oh yeah. Through the past few years, I would say I've dug as deep as someone in my position could possibly dig. But what I think is interesting is you actually lived through Oasis being a band, not through all of it, like not the 90s, like I teased about before, but you were like a fan when Dig Out Your Soul was, oh, this is coming out soon, the new Oasis album. So take me back to the first time you heard Oasis getting

into the band. I remember getting into Oasis senior year of high school. So we're talking 2005 or 2006. I'm not sure if the calendar had changed yet. And that's when you're still downloading music illegally on like Kazaa or Napster. I remember hearing Champagne Supernova at like one in the morning. I came home. So this is like around when I started like drinking with my brother and his friends or whatever and I remember being on

my laptop like big clunky laptop 2006 like probably like a gateway like just weighed 900 pounds yeah and I remember downloading this song and being like, this song is blowing my mind right now. Like, I don't know what I'm listening to. And just going down this, this rabbit hole on Kazaa of downloading like obviously Wonderwall. And then I always loved at this time, like live acoustic songs.

Like I still am, but I was like obsessed with them. And that's when I find familiar to millions millions and that's what changed everything for me it was when i heard uh aqueous i was like this is the greatest band of all time and that's what and i i started just listening to everything this is back in the message uh board days and like tape trading and shit so i was just like downloading everything illegally were you a poster on the message boards or were you just i know i did i wouldn't even know how to find i was gonna say do you remember what your username was was it like fucking there's some ridiculous oasis name there has to be a way i can go back

into like my yacht no it's probably on like hotmail email there has to be a way I can go back into like my yacht no it's probably on like hotmail email there has to be a way I can find it maybe um but like I was it would be so funny to see what you were saying about the songs in real time I would love to go back and find it maybe that'll be my homework um but the same way you are now the way that you read every story I was reading every story about like how they became a band and this is back when I was talking to you a little bit about it when stop the clocks was like an urban legend when nobody even knew if this song was a song or if it was just something Noel made up or like what it was and people were obsessed with it was like national treasure on the

message boards where everybody was connecting clues and people would just give up and be like it's not a song i'm out it was a wild time and it was they are again to compare to wrestling it was like dirt sheets like nobody knew if the band was that is a good way to put it together nobody knew if they were touring i mean it, and this was in the, in 2000s, we missed out on the good, good, like yeah, there's, there was just drama, like you couldn't imagine. And I always go back and you and me were literally just joking about this before we started recording. But one of the stories I tell so many people about Oasis is like their first trip to America, and how they sort of blew a lot of their opportunities in America. And if you're listening to this as an American,

who's like, yeah, I know the hits of Oasis, but not the deep catalog. Maybe this is why their first trip here. They said, all right, let's celebrate. We got to show it. I think it was at the Roxy in LA or the rainbow room. One of those sunset strip, big iconic venues. They said, let's do some Coke on stage. Let's set up lines on the amps and in between songs we'll rip a few lines just let's celebrate our first trip to america rock and roll that yeah exactly that's what it is unfortunately the coke they got wasn't coke it was meth so they

blew that and the entire show like uh their set lists were off so noah was starting one song and bonehead the guitarist was starting another song And it was just horrible. Liam's forgetting words. Liam eventually throws a tambourine at Noel and they walk off the stage and they get into a fight. And it's a whole big thing. But there are a thousand of those stories where you're just like, what? Are you fucking kidding me? There's a thousand and you could find them all online. They're know half told in that documentary there's other documentaries videos interviews and they are they are like they wanted to be true rock and roll like that lifestyle like fast and hard embrace it yes don't comply to the man don't you don't if you don't want to do media like they would if they were had to do a show and they had it's like a top of the pops video they just switched instruments and fake lip sync because they were like fuck you guys like yeah if they said it was going to be a pre-tape where we're just going to play the song and you'll pretend to play it they would literally just all get on different instruments and be like all right

fuck this yeah they they wouldn't when they came to america they were like no we're not gonna we're not gonna bow down to the music executives and and do your little mtv this and that and it probably cost them a ton of money but it just it makes them like just you know that's why you love these guys they and they were going as hard as a band could go with the drugs like they say they don't remember recording uh be here now because they were just on coke the whole time yeah i have a personal liam gallagher story never been told from the 1996 vmas that i could tell on this very podcast and this is another example of just who liam gallagher was my father worked the show as a

stagehand and he was backstage he looks down the hallway and he sees someone leaning up against the men's room door the way that someone that was wasted would be leaning up the men's room door would be. I've done that lean before. Totally. Everyone has. Everyone knows the lean. He had his dick out and he was pissing into a janitor's bucket, just like the bucket where the mop would be. And my dad, being the hardo that he was screamed like hey what are you doing and liam just fucking calmly as ever turned did not stop pissing and said having a piss and he was like well you

fucking you're leaning on the bathroom door and i guess they probably called each other assholes and they you know left it at that but then he walked right out on stage and he did champagne supernova and you can find that performance now and you're like fuck that's fucking unreal that's Oasis that's a rock and roll band performing one of the best songs ever written they are one of a kind and then what so what annoys me is when you say like your favorite band is Oasis people think it's Wonderwall yeah Champagne Supernova and nothing else their catalog is like I mean who foo fighters deep deeper than that like it's uh it's that's actually a pretty good comparison but like you said deeper because they have the whole b-sides thing like most bands don't even have oasis with

their b-sides a lot of oasis fans consider them better than most oasis a-sides like there's a whole album called the master plan if you're not familiar of B-sides that I think I if you were to poll Oasis fans would they say that's their third best album second or third yeah I mean it's up there with definitely maybe and what's the story yeah but people would say like in terms of just pure like song like just like yeah I probably probably Noel has forever been bad at choosing which songs should be b-sides and which songs should not even in the later albums like uh especially in the later albums I would say the songs that wound up on the cutting room floor you're like dude what

were you thinking yeah no I yeah the the fact that and we'll get into our top 10. Me and Bob each made our top 10 Oasis songs list. But the fact that, you know, some of these songs are on, are the B-side. So B-side's meaning didn't make the album. It's just like on the, I love the old school way. Which are kind of a lost art, right? Can we talk about the old school way of buying singles and buying records? And you would rush to the record store on a Tuesday and you would like, I never,

I never had that. I never bought a single in my life. That was like a very British thing, but it was so cool because that's when like the blur versus Oasis rivalry because they would release their songs on the same day. And it was so fucking cool. On purpose going up against each other. They made posters. You could find online that look like wrestling posters.

It's like Oasis versus blur this Friday. They each have a fucking roll with it coming out on one side blur whatever they had and the the art of b-sides and a lot of them being covers was so cool artists don't really do b-sides anymore because why would you it doesn't make a lot of sense to do you don't buy singles they're usually bonus tracks now on the album i guess that's the the modern day version but like come on feel the noise i am the walrus some of oasis's covers that wound up as b-sides are some of their best songs yeah no a hundred percent um i'll just throw out a b-side right here that isn't on my top top 10 list like talk tonight is like yeah top five song of any other band and it's just like a throwaway song to know well i mean he he loves it now he plays it all the time now yeah at the

time he didn't even know what he had and no by the way so you have seen oasis let's talk about the show that you actually went to when you went like you said studied abroad in london for the purpose of going to this show let's talk about the show itself because so that was the second time i saw them i saw them in the states really i didn't know all them in the states when jet which is an incredible band they broke up they incredible agreed the one cd they had that had it was like eight hits in a row uh did you go and see them on the same tour with jet and the black crows uh were the black crows there as well no no jet opened and this was when jet was like pretty

big like oh look what you've done yeah no that was 2001 definitely not oh no the tour i'm talking about the first one um i saw a merriweather post pavilion jet opened it was fine i was young i think i think i was it was 2006 um not as good as the show in london but we can skip over the first show so i study abroad in london for the sole purpose of seeing them in london uh which is also if you want to watch that gig as we call call it, it was filmed by MTV2 or MTV UK. I can't remember which. It's one of those, yeah. And it's on YouTube for free.

It's pretty good. Yeah, it's a decent show. Especially for the era when Liam was like, you were either catching him on an off night where he sounded like Kermit the Frog or he sounded like Liam Gallagher. It was the most rough crowd. So, okay, I start drinking vodka out of a water bottle early

because you have to take the train, I think it was only like a half hour, over to the show. And when I get to the arena, their lines are wrapped around the arena. They have two entrances that you can get into to the show. And people were in line for hours. Now, I'm a 20 year old American about to see Oasis in London

holding a water bottle full of vodka. And I'm just like, and by that time I'd been there for a bit and you kind of like, people love Americans over there and they want to talk to you. And they're very just, they hear your accent

and they are just very interested in talking to you sort of the same way flipped over here yeah but even more so i i've realized they they hear your accent and they're they're very comfortable and i know i'm generalizing but way more than we are here but it's the experience you had yes yes and so i just like i walk up and i i said something to the extent of like is this the line to get in? You know, just like an easy, they were like, exactly like to a T and I'm like, anybody want to drink, you know, like perfect. Like back when I had confidence,

they're like, you know, more than wonder wall. And, and so, you know, I just, we, I, I, I just stand in line with these folks and we get into the arena i go down onto the floor this is before camera phones so i have my digital camera and uh i i'm super i get super super drunk and i find my way to the rail like right in front of knoll and you know it's. Everybody's swaying back and forth. What did they open with? Do you remember? I could look up the set list.

It was probably fucking in the bushes and then turn up the sun if I had to. That's always, that's always like my favorite moment of every concert is always when the band walks on stage and plays whatever that first song is. Chills every time. And Oasis, Oasis is an incredible, like they don't have bad openers every opening song they ever came out with was like oh fuck we're here because they would usually do either the swamp song early on in the 90s or they would do fucking in the bushes which you would know from snatch maybe um i think that's probably where people best know that it's just music there's

no word yeah it's just an instrumental but it's fucking rocking and so i i pushed my way to the front i'm like on the rail and um i remember just taking like the sickest like videos of the entire crowd singing don't look back in anger and it was one of a kind experience like i lost both my shoes like down on the floor because it got kind of rough everybody's swaying. Not a lot of pushing, but it's like aggressive. Like people are just like, it's London on a weekend. Like everybody's drunk. There had been football on it.

Losing your shoes at a concert is hysterical. Both my shoes down on the floor. So you left that concert just in socks? Yeah. I had a t-shirt. But that's pretty much the best thing you could ask for right going to an oasis show like yeah i lost both my shoes it was fucking mad i later end up losing that digital camera um at university of maryland there was a riot down on route one which

is the main strip of university of maryland and a cop threw me and my camera went because i was filming the cops beating the shit out of students and oh my god flying me and my camera went because i was filming the cops beating the shit out of students and oh my god flying out of my hand and so i don't have any of those pictures or i have a couple pictures this is this is like this is like a podcast full of rough nate stories i know man that camera saw it all yeah fucking hardened nate so another thing that i would like to talk about before we get into our top 10 is the post Oasis career of both brothers. Because again, you got to experience the rollout in a different way. I sort of got to experience everything like I binged Lost on Netflix, all in one. And I liked the finale because I wasn't waiting week to week and like disappointed

week to week. Whereas, oh oh what's this new song coming out and then it was like oh bdi and so how do you feel about noel's career how do you feel about liam's career solo dude i can't believe it's been over 10 years at this point 11 years yeah it seems like i can remember it like yesterday like 2009 2009, like just, yeah, wait, let's go back. Actually, when they broke up, did you think, oh man, like this is for real? Or were you like, oh, they'll be back together in fucking a month. And then they just weren't, they broke up mid tour. You just assumed like they got in a fight. This is what they did though, for their entire, that's what I mean. Yeah. Like they got in fights, maybe they canceled a couple

shows, but then they continued the tour so he walks off the stage in paris or france somewhere in france and it's like this is before twitter and all that so it's like you read it on whatever yahoo news that the aol music whatever it was yeah and it's like all right cool like classic liam being a dickhead And then they just never kind of got back together. And then they kept making statements like, uh, I remember, dude, I wonder if this website is still up and running. It was called oasisinet.com. It was just a basically like HTML. It was like so basic and it just had the newest news of the day,

like in blog form. And you would just refresh that constantly. I used to follow a, like a green day site like that around the American idiot era. That was literally, it was a white screen and black text. That's it. And then it would have like red text on like bold statements. Yeah. That's all it was. And it was like the biggest news site for Oasis. And every once in a while, there'd be like a new update. Like the band's

not getting back together and it's like what and they're still not back together we're still here I'm begging them on Twitter every fucking day I don't see how fucking why can't we just put on the same BPM Noel records his live forever guitar part and then Liam sings it over Noel's part they put it there but going back how do you feel about their solo careers? I remember, so the first solo stuff was Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds. Yeah. And I was excited because I hated Liam. I hated Liam.

I blamed him for everything. I mean, he was the asshole, dude. I mean, Liam is so in the Noel versus Liam battle. I guess I would, if I had to pick a side, I would say team Liam. But I could also acknowledge that he is the evil one and he is the reason why Oasis is not together. Yeah. I could acknowledge that, but he's also the cool one.

No, he's the bad boy, but he was the reason they broke up. Like he's the guy who couldn't show up to his own MTV unplugged because he was like too fucked up and then heckled noel from the rafters like all-time move he you know noel was the songwriter he wrote don't look back in anger what the fuck he wrote everything he wrote everything yeah so i was very excited for high flying birds album came out i was like okay that was an album not a huge fan of it no i'm not really i like that first out i think that first high flying birds album is pretty damn good it's the well okay at the time i was also also there's a lot of songs in that that like i i go back to pretty regularly if i had a gun uh record machine really good everybody's on the run it's a lot of songs that

didn't make the oasis next record cut like those would have been songs that would have been on the next oasis record it's definitely the best stuff that he's done uh since oasis is that first cd yeah i never saw him live after the split when he toured around i i never really yeah so i have i i made the jump last year i think i was having like one of those nights where i was so just bummed out i probably watched supersonic for the 16th time and i just looked up noel gallagher tour dates and i was like oh fuck he's going on tour with the smashing pumpkins this summer and he's going to open for them they're playing jones beach and i looked on live nation and there was like one second row ticket available for like 400

bucks and I was like fuck it and I made the jump and I just bought it and I went to that show alone I had a twisted tea it was like the first show I ever went to where I was 21 I was like I'm gonna buy myself an alcoholic beverage I'm gonna get ID'd they're gonna be like yep you're you're 21 I was indeed and it's pretty fucking good show I mean he did four songs i think to open the show up from his latest album who built the moon which if you say i think that's the worst thing i've ever heard i'd be like you know what i respect that opinion personally i actually think who built the moon is pretty okay like for what he was going for in the dance music i'm like all right i see who built the moon and for live music it was like fun to kind of pop around to we agree 100 every null album and song or whatever since the split

it's just like it's music you know like yeah it just is what it is i mean but except the new new stuff like the the blue moon uh thundergaze yeah the space music i hate like the i don't know what that is but noel also knows what the fans want and about five songs into the show he was like all right this next one's called little by little and then he did stop crying your heart out and then he did wonderwall and then he did don't look back in anger and it was like oh fuck this is this is noel gallagher and when noel gallagher is playing don't look back in anger i'm in the second row it was as oasis fans overly say biblical it was biblical yeah it was one of those things and liam is now top of my you know list right up there with

alanis morissette in terms of people i haven't seen that i want to see because Liam stuff I fucking love his so Liam came out of the gate trying to write his own songs and he was never the strongest songwriter no um I didn't I didn't love it to make a a good comparison it's very Mark and tom like tom was the bad boy liam was bad boy mark you know has that that better singing voice but you'd rather hear tom sing the songs because it's like he has yeah way about him he's like tom's the rock star liam's the rock noel probably if a singing coach dissected both of their voices they would probably say noel has the more just straight down the middle standard voice yeah but liam i'll listen to sing fucking anything i'll listen to sing the abcs i'll listen to him sing twinkle twinkle little star i don't care they they both have just the rock star component to them that mark and noel don't have but they're

also those guys are the brains behind the operations yeah so i didn't love liam stuff out of the gate but now you know 11 years later or i guess i get i liked his last one too the one before the most recent one yeah so he did bdi which was him and like the rest of the oasis members after noel left which was kind of what we were talking about that we didn't like for context and then the two that we are talking about he put out just under the liam gallagher name solo which is way better and should be and he's reinvented himself his voice sounds incredible his songs are great it has the oasis sound to it that we all love but he has his own he makes it his own and he's not a fucking asshole anymore he's enjoyable well he's his brother he is yeah to his brother he still is but to everyone else yeah he's he's not a fucking asshole anymore. He's enjoyable. Well, to his brother he is. Yeah, to his brother he still is.

But to everyone else, yeah, he's no longer in that canceling shows every other week mode. He's no longer walking off stage and F3 songs and being like, sorry, I can't fucking do it. I mean, I know he did that once on his last tour, but he does have that fucking thyroid disease. But Liam's new stuff is brilliant because i think he writes maybe some i mean i know in the first record he wrote like one or two songs the new one i don't think he wrote anything and i think it's smart i think he knows i'm not a songwriter i'm gonna put this in the hands of good songwriters like he has done his entire oasis career like that isn't the liam gallagher charm isn't him writing the songs and singing. So he puts it in the hands of people that basically go, how do we chase down that Oasis sound?

How do we make this sound like what Oasis fans want to hear? So they got the rock and roll songs like Wall of Glass, Shockwave. Like there's some good ones like that. But then the ballads like once the videos of arenas singing this and the MTV unplugged like the church and hall that he performed that in. Way more confident in his music now than he was when they originally broke up. He'd probably admit that as proud of a guy as he is. He would probably admit that. Oh, he does in the As You Were documentary.

He definitely does. He talks about like the BDI stuff a little bit. But then since the comeback at the show for Manchester for the bombing, when he came back and they did that Live Forever performance with Coldplay he's like that was the beginning and everything since then has been like I know exactly what I need to do I know who I need to surround myself with and he's just got the confidence back he's Liam Gallagher again and and the 180 the the switching of roles uh to like the old school Oasis fans that the two brothers have done is remarkable. Like I would have never imagined a world where Liam was the lovable one and everybody fucking hated Noel Gallagher. Like never.

But Noel became I want to be buddy buddies with like Chris Martin and Bono. And Bono. Dude, read old interviews of them talking about Bono in Coldplay they were scathing it was the meanest shit you could say about another musician and like Liam hates that Noel is like fake now as he perceives it and I guess he hates the fuck out of his wife too yeah he calls her the witch and all that that's tough when when they didn't reunite for the manchester bombing concert and liam kind of like was pretty fucking angry about it that's when a lot of people were like all right maybe there's no chance and there was just yeah like basically

silence on noel's end he was just like i'm out of the country not happening that's like they're like where they grew up the they they represent manchester more than anything like it's and let's not forget don't look back in anger became the anthem of that city like very specifically in that bombing there was the video that went super viral the girl singing it like in that moment of silence yeah uh that's a tough look for no you you just have to you just have to do it yeah you have to suck it up and be like, all right, we're going to do it. Don't look back in anger. Wonderwall, live forever.

And Oasis will ride off into the sunset. Nobody will ever hear from us ever again. Honestly, what a perfect ending that would have been too. It was such like a – Especially look at the narrative of everyone said Liam came back like fucking knew when his city needed him the savior that fucking came like he was heralded for coming back because he canceled the tour or whatever like he was in germany too he was out of the country he's like fuck it i'm going back to manchester right

now no i'm not doing it there's like oh my god and the rumor is coming out all the time and i very much believe the rumors that came out a few months ago that said live nation offered them 130 million to reunite for a tour because live live nation's been offering everyone that money like live nation was were the ones to spawn the guns and roses reunion the smashing pumpkins reunion the black crows reunion live nation's just taking millions and millions and millions of dollars and throwing it at bands and being like guys if you slap reunion on a tour everyone shows up it's just like it's all you have to do smashing pumpkins don't even have darcy playing bass they're calling it a reunion and it's the best they've sounded in years it really is so i believe that and apparently noah was like yeah no i don't need that like i'm fucking fine yeah they both have the money they're both

older you know they're in their 50s but but how do you not have the itch if you're noel gallagher and you've played the river plate stadium shows and all of that and you see liam gallagher before the coronavirus shit he had that stadium show booked for august that they were saying it was going to be like 60 000 people how do you not see that and be like i'm opening up for the smashing pumpkins at jones beach by the way i i don't want to suck his dick more than like even more but it was like it kind of sucked to see him playing like smaller smaller smaller venues like you know he's playing like a thousand person venues and stuff it's like that's fucking liam gallagher like what in the hell like truly one of the last living rock stars like one of the last of the generation one of a kind liam

like liam gallagher is liam gallagher like you're saying not to suck his dick i will suck his dick yeah that's obviously but watching him like grind back and to the point where he was gonna play like stadium gigs again it's like that's so fucking cool. And like the big, everyone says the big rumor is that he eventually wants to build up to playing Nebworth again, which could you fucking imagine if he pulled that off, Nebworth solo? I mean, I would have to fly out across the pond as they say. I would hand in my resignation paper if he got on a plane. Do you want to get into our top 10s?

Yeah. I mean, I want to say something about my top 10 before I even mention any of it. I think I know what you're going to say, and I have the same feeling. Go ahead. It's about Wonderwall. Okay. And I'm going to speak on both sides of Wonderwall. Wonderwall is not on my list.

It's not in my top 10 and i don't want people to take that as like oh this snob is like it sucks i love wonderwall i also feel if i never heard wonderwall ever again i'd be okay but every time wonderwall comes on i'm belting at the top of my lungs it's a fucking great song i think people um slag it off another british term i mean i'm just tearing it up if you're listening to this in the uk you're like this guy yes you're like this guy's been living in america so long he's an american accent that's crazy um but i think people slag off wonderwall because it's overplayed which it is i get it but it's a fucking great song like wonderwall is one of the greatest songs ever written and you're never going to convince me otherwise wonderwall is on my list because it's

a great song and there's no that would it would be like i don't like. Wonderwall is on my list because it's a great song. And there's no, that would, it would be like, I don't like that it's not on your list. I'm not going to leave Mr. Brightside off the killers list because it's overplayed. It's not on my list, but I really looked and debated and debated and debated. And I was thinking if I see Liam Gallagher, I don't want to see him do Wonderwall.

Like if I go to a live show, I don't want it to take up like a slot because I know it's either Wonderwall or Live Forever and I prefer Live Forever. Wrong. Wrong. 20,000 people singing Wonderwall while the writer of the song sings Wonderwall? Listen, I saw Noel do it and I was fucking like in tears when Noel was doing it. Okay.

I love Wonderwall, but there are 10 songs that I like more than Wonderwall. Which is fair. I don't have all the small things on my top 10 Blink songs, but when they play it and the crowd's going crazy, I'm into it. Yes. I don't want people to think I don't like Wonderwall. I love Wonderwall. It's just not in my top 10. So what I thought you were going to say is I thought you were going to say

that you kind of balanced and weighed live performances that you've watched on YouTube into your rankings? I sort of have. Yeah, I definitely have. I definitely do. Yeah, I have. Now that I'm looking at it. Yeah. Do you want to start off with number 10 on your list? I will. My number 10 song, also one of the first Oasis songs I've heard, I ever heard. I forgot about that, but I didn't know it was an Oasis song at the time. It's the credits of the uh Ashton Kutcher movie Butterfly Effect Stop Crying Your Heart Out um my number 10 is Acquiesce that is later on my list by the way so uh my number nine is boy how is this only number nine Champagne Supernova Supernova. Yeah, I don't think I'm like, you know,

Noel himself in terms of musical genius, but maybe. You hear songs on a deeper level than I do. And I'm jealous of that. Like my sister, she can pick up a guitar or play a song by ear on the piano. It's the most impressive thing I've ever seen. Like I can't do it. I can't do it at all. I have the complete opposite skills. Yeah most impressive thing I've ever seen. Like, I can't do it. I can't do it at

all. I have the complete opposite skills. Yeah, playing by ear is incredibly impressive to me still. On a scale of one to 10 and skill of playing by ear, I would consider myself like a 0.5. Okay. It makes me mad. I'm like, you know, you have this like, extremely cool talent, right? She's like, meh. Oh, it's, yeah. People that, and also people that have extraordinary voices and don't sing. That are just like, that are like, oh yeah, I sing around the house sometimes. And then you hear them sing and you're like, excuse me? You sing around the house sometimes?

Like you should be on stage tomorrow. I love the music video. So it belongs on my list. That's also another cool thing about making this list is you remember the first time you heard the songs and that definitely influences if it's if that's it influences like where it is on your list and if it's on the list at all if it like something happened while you were listening to that song or if there's a memory that's tied to it so that maybe yeah definitely looking over my list like that

has a strong, strong influence on it. My number eight, I would like to switch out on the fly my number eight to- Oh, an audible. Do it. I'm calling audible right here on the fly. My number eight is not my eighth favorite Oasis song. But so I'm going to take out cigarettes and alcohol and I'm going to put in,

I play the bass, which is a boring instrument to try to write on, but talking pop punk for a second Rowan, we obviously know fantastic songwriter, one of the best songwriters that, you know, is probably walking the earth today, sneaky under the radar radar pft does not get enough credit for how catchy the melodies and hooks that he writes are i'm gonna send you after we record this the last demo that pft recorded by himself in garage band through quarantine and sent to us you're gonna be mind blown at how fucking like you're gonna be like this is brilliant that he put this together the way he did every time he sends us some kind of new weird idea, he has like, think about My Real Girlfriend. Like everyone was saying like, that's like actually a good song when we put that out.

That was like the main thing people were saying about it. That's straight. PFT wrote that hook. Like he knows how to write a catchy hook. So PFT, Noel Gallagher, very similar. What is your number seven? They were prone to mailing it in, and they would do like 70 minutes, 80 minutes,

which is bullshit to me. It's tough when you're Oasis as well, which you locked yourself into having some of the greatest hits that have ever been written, and then you go out there and play songs like Mucky Fingers and those songs. My number seven is another one that has more to do with the live performance than the studio performance but the studio is the epitome of what oasis was in the definitely maybe era and sort of their whole career going forward as rock and roll star he's singing

i'm the coolest person in this arena he sang it at nebworth he was singing i'm the coolest person in england and everyone was like we agree it does not get cooler yeah now we're at six and we don't have to talk much about it Noah was brilliant enough in his songwriting that what does he call it all the time he says just like it's he's a general songwriter or something he's he's a general world thing songwriter he he writes songs about just like everyday things that people could sort of connect anything into the lyrics of most of always the songs don't make a ton of sense champagne supernova slowly walking down the hall faster than a cannonball means nothing noel has long said

that doesn't mean anything it's gibberish but that song means the fucking world to everybody ourselves included because we could just connect whatever to it. It doesn't really matter. I don't know if you had AIM, AOL Instant Message. Oh, I did, yeah. RobbieDX01. The number of away messages and buddy profiles with, I don't believe that anybody feels the way I do about you now, back in seventh grade. If you got that lyric about you in a girl's info or buddy profile,

that was third base yeah yeah absolutely i think it's worldwide truths i think that's what uh noel says he says he writes worldwide truths he's like i write about the weather i write about breaking up i write about love it's the beatles that's what the beatles did oh speaking of the weather one of my favorite lines of all time nobody ever mentions the weather can make or break your day it's so to the point but so like beautifully such a fucking great song too the way that like carries on live and just rolls um my number six song is a song that i debated putting in my top three for like a long time and then i was like all right i i can't put it above that one i can't put it above that one i gotta i

gotta dig it down to number six. A ton of sentimental value to that show. It's like, here are the poor kids from Manchester playing their home stadium to the poor people of Manchester. It was just... And back-to-back unbelievable shows. The second night is my favorite Oasis show ever. You can find it on YouTube.

Both shows are in incredible quality on youtube most oasis shows are actually like the famous ones at least luckily uh night two is my favorite oasis show ever if you're interested in that my number five this is going to be maybe controversial to put it number five because it's listen the top five they could all be interchangeable. I'm telling you, they're the greatest songs ever written. It's Don't Look Back in Anger. My four, I hate saying this out loud because it's not fair. My number three is Don't Look Back in Anger. It almost worked.

All around the world, it's a good song. Don't get me wrong. Yeah, good song, great music video. And fantastic in the AT&t ads you're number two this is this is i mean now we're seriously one and two here it's so good you gotta watch that live version my number two is live forever i am fuck live forever we've talked enough about live forever we talked about it in this podcast what's your number one this is oh wait wait wait yours is uh Yours is Cast No Shadow. No. No, yours is The Master Plan.

I've known that about you. Well, this is so funny because now, so I was just talking about how Live Forever was, in my opinion, the best song that Noel ever wrote. Master Plan is up there. And I'll be honest, I overlooked that. It should have been on my honorable mentions, but I didn't even like,

I was looking at their track list on Spotify. Like your top two honorable mentions. I like didn't scroll down to the master plan and stop the clocks because I was just, I just looked at all the studio albums or whatever. But I was, I was beginning to say it's interesting because my number one is just there because in my heart of hearts, I'm more of just a rock and roll guy. Like I prefer when I'm listening to music, rock and roll in its purest form. So in my honorable mentions i'm just gonna read through my list and then you could read through your list and we could pick apart whatever songs we want to

talk to i got stand by me cigarettes and alcohol sad song half the world away uh gas panic of course talk tonight of course uh be here now i hope i think i know all around the world those three from be here now i i i'm fucking mad about then songbird which is the the first liam gallagher written song three chords it's very basic in its nature but it's very john lennon in the same way so i fucking love love songboard songbird it's also a song that i know how to play on guitar at this point so i like it in that way keep the dream alive an andy bell written song off uh don't believe the truth a non gallagher brother song another non gallagher brother written song by

jem archer to be where there's life off their final album and then uh i'm out of time and the shock of lightning the shock of the lightning i think it is um you you did way more honorable mention i i told you i could not narrow it down i have so many and another thing we could we should do another oasis cast at some point because there's so much to talk about that we didn't even we haven't even scratched the surface not even this show but i've been watching a lot of live shows recently and i sent one to you the 2005 wembley one where they did like mucky fingers and they did turn up the sun. They opened with that and they did all that. Zach Starkey is one of the most underrated drummers out there.

He was so fucking good for Oasis and so perfect for Oasis. It's unfortunate that it like, you know, he wasn't necessarily ever a driving force in that band. He got some highlights though in both Don't Believe the Truth and the final album. He is unbelievable live. Some of their best shows are him as their drummer again it's so funny you say that because for the life of me i cannot like listen to drums and like differentiate drummers like no see that's another thing that's funny with my brother is i sent him keep the dream alive just a few days ago because he's a pretty big oasis fan like mentioning like me getting into the band he was the the crutch that i was leaning on because he knew a pretty decent amount about oasis going

in he knew about the history he knew about the first three albums at this point i've probably lapsed him but i sent him keep the dream alive he had never heard it and the first thing he texted back he said is this zach starkey era he said that intro phil was zach starkey right i was like yep i'll throw you some songs some honorable mentions of mine uh the ones i wrote down that i have some other ones that have popped into my head i have some might say roll with it morning glory cast no shadow stand by me supersonic uh rock and roll star and then i wrote like 20 others i'm gonna give you a couple that i just like do you want to be a spaceman it's such a fucking oh we're going you want to go super deep it is such a cool song and it's such like a a bizarre title but like i

think the message is like really good um that um let's all make believe i think is great fantastic that i cannot believe that didn't make the album especially for the album that it was and i like standing on the shoulders of giants i think it's a good album but it had to make that um what about it's good to be free it's good to be free how the hell is that a b-side that's like that's one of those i don't know why that's not in my top 10 that's well i'm gonna say that about round our way what's that round our way whatever way is okay but it's good to be free is is definitely a top 10 song that i left off um i'm pretty upset with myself pass me down the wine not great oh i kind of like Pass Me Down the Wine.

I'm glad you left. That's an obscure B-side, though. I'm glad you didn't say The Importance of Being Idol. A lot of people, I think, pretend to like that song, but I don't think it's anything. I like it, but I don't think it's a top by any means. Like, that's, take it or leave it for me, pretty much. Lila, I think, fucking bang.

Oh, yeah. Did I mention that in my, I think I did. I love Lila. I think it's. And I was actually going to ask you, lila i think fucking bang oh yeah did i mention that in my i think i did i love lila i think and i was actually going to ask you because you got into oasis like around that time i was going to be like was that did you hear like lila on mtv and be like who the fuck is that then i i was already into oasis when that came out and lila is the last song I remember, like last release song I remember hearing on like rock stations, like just radio in the car. Maybe they had something for the shock of the lightning. Like maybe.

I don't remember. I feel like that one was familiar. Like before I even dug into that album, I was like, oh, I know that song. Maybe it was in a video game or something. Maybe I'm thinking that. But Lla was probably the last like actual big hit that they had don't steal uh my child's name like you're gonna steal my tattoo lila oh that's a pretty good i thought leia but the unfortunate thing is my brother named

his kid luke already so i'm like oh damn if it's luke and leia but if they were cousins that would be kind of cute i don't know that was that that Oasis cast. Like we said, the tip of the iceberg, the definitely maybe of the Oasis cast. We'll have to get together and do the What's the Story sometime. And then eventually people will be like, the third podcast is going to be incredible. And then we'll go on for three hours and they'll be like, all right, we should have stuck with the first two. Wait, so wait, what drug do we start doing now? I think it's just weed. stuck with the first two wait so wait what drug do we start doing now i think it's just weed i think the first two albums well i think by what's the story they got into coke yeah yeah yeah they definitely got into coke at that point but i think i think definitely maybe was mostly just weed although no it probably wasn't because uh

psychedelics probably somewhere in there and there's a specific lyric with the white line. So they've probably been into coke for a while. I think we have a lot of catching up to do. I could talk about Oasis for another three hours. All right, this was fun. What song would you like to close the podcast out with? I'll let you throw it out. I'd like to go out with uh another thing we didn't

mention how much noel used to get sued for stealing from people oh yeah he stole most of his stuff i'd like to go out with a step out that he did not steal from stevie wonder