My Therapist Ghosted Me - Breakfast Radio, Magic Mike & A Hearing Test
Episode Date: May 10, 2024The results of Vogue's hearing test are in and they are... Unsurprising. Plus, a meet and greet with Magic Mike and the mad story of Belle Gibson.If you’d like to get in touch, you can send an email... to hello@MTGMpod.comPlease review Global's Privacy Policy: global.com/legal/privacy-policy/For merch, tour dates and more visit: www.mytherapistghostedme.com/For more information about Joanne's gigs, visit: www.joannemcnally.comThis episode contains explicit language and adult themes that may not be suitable for all listeners.Thank you!
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                                         Hello and welcome to My Therapist Ghosted Me with me, Vogue Williams and Joanne McNally.
                                         
                                         I like this set up
                                         
                                         actually I do
                                         
                                         now that I've sat up
                                         
                                         we're in a different room today
                                         
                                         I like a bit of desk energy
                                         
                                         because it makes me feel like
                                         
    
                                         we've got our own radio show
                                         
                                         which
                                         
                                         well this is where I used to
                                         
                                         this is where I used to do
                                         
                                         my radio show
                                         
                                         is it?
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         this room
                                         
    
                                         memory lane
                                         
                                         I know
                                         
                                         all I remember from here
                                         
                                         is feeling violently ill
                                         
                                         because I was always pregnant
                                         
                                         when I was in here
                                         
                                         and like feeling so hideously sick,
                                         
                                         bringing in the most disgusting breakfast
                                         
    
                                         because I had to get up at half four in the morning.
                                         
                                         So I just bring in like a little bag of some Cocoa Pops
                                         
                                         or something like that.
                                         
                                         Half four in the morning.
                                         
                                         So I know that when people do radio,
                                         
                                         breakfast, oh, he's just joking,
                                         
                                         but we're trying to work.
                                         
                                         Joe.
                                         
    
                                         Joe will keep taking
                                         
                                         your hot drink away
                                         
                                         from you by the way
                                         
                                         because you're not
                                         
                                         supposed to have it
                                         
                                         near the desk
                                         
                                         did I ever tell you
                                         
                                         I accidentally
                                         
    
                                         sent a radio demo in
                                         
                                         no
                                         
                                         it was an absolute
                                         
                                         breakdown in communication
                                         
                                         there was a radio station
                                         
                                         who asked
                                         
                                         would I like to learn
                                         
                                         to drive the desk
                                         
    
                                         which is what you call
                                         
                                         well driving the desk
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         so I could do
                                         
                                         kind of cover
                                         
                                         and bits like that
                                         
                                         and I was like
                                         
                                         yeah sure I'll learn how to drive the desk.
                                         
    
                                         And then I ended up putting in a demo for a show,
                                         
                                         but I was never briefed about what to do.
                                         
                                         And I ended up making like a 90s radio show.
                                         
                                         It was like a fake show.
                                         
                                         And I sent it in, but I never wanted my own show.
                                         
                                         I don't know how.
                                         
                                         Anyway, then the fucking big wig up the top of the radio thing
                                         
                                         sent me an email back saying, I've listened to your demo.
                                         
    
                                         Quote unquote, it's one of the worst demos
                                         
                                         No they didn't
                                         
                                         I've ever listened to
                                         
                                         in my life
                                         
                                         and I
                                         
                                         No
                                         
                                         and I was like
                                         
                                         dude come here
                                         
    
                                         I don't even want this
                                         
                                         I don't know how
                                         
                                         this has happened
                                         
                                         Stop
                                         
                                         I wasn't pitching
                                         
                                         for a radio show
                                         
                                         I was just going to
                                         
                                         drive
                                         
    
                                         I was just going to
                                         
                                         use the buttons
                                         
                                         that was all I was going to do
                                         
                                         maybe do a bit of cover
                                         
                                         here and there
                                         
                                         Oh no the worst thing I've ever heard and I was like I'm not to do. Maybe do a bit of cover here and there. Oh, no. The worst thing I've ever heard.
                                         
                                         And I was like, I'm not having that now. That's a bit much.
                                         
                                         That's rude. I mean, it was probably absolute dog
                                         
    
                                         shit, but like. Do you remember?
                                         
                                         Did you remember? I used to have my own radio show
                                         
                                         and this is, this will make you happy, right? So I have my
                                         
                                         own radio show on Spin 1038
                                         
                                         and I was asked to do it
                                         
                                         and I used to, so I used to have to,
                                         
                                         it was a dance radio show. It was four hours a week.
                                         
                                         Love it. I had to bring all my own music.
                                         
    
                                         So I'd buy all my own music.
                                         
                                         I had to go in.
                                         
                                         I had to do the whole show myself, put the whole thing together myself,
                                         
                                         do all my links, go in on the night, play it out.
                                         
                                         They didn't even pay for my parking.
                                         
                                         So it was kind of minus money by the time I was finished all this work
                                         
                                         that I'd done for a radio show for the week.
                                         
                                         And I did it for ages.
                                         
    
                                         And I used to do
                                         
                                         all these fake shout outs
                                         
                                         like,
                                         
                                         oh,
                                         
                                         big shout out to Andrea
                                         
                                         out there
                                         
                                         in town
                                         
                                         out with the girls.
                                         
    
                                         She's having a great night.
                                         
                                         I hope you,
                                         
                                         this one's for you,
                                         
                                         Andrea.
                                         
                                         I heard that.
                                         
                                         Can I come?
                                         
                                         ATP.
                                         
                                         I thought that a lot of those
                                         
    
                                         requests are fake though,
                                         
                                         are they not?
                                         
                                         Yeah,
                                         
                                         you make all of it up.
                                         
                                         But come here,
                                         
                                         why did a radio station
                                         
                                         have no music?
                                         
                                         Well,
                                         
    
                                         no,
                                         
                                         because I wasn't, Spin
                                         
                                         as you know, Spin plays loads of pop
                                         
                                         music and stuff. I was playing dance, it was a dance
                                         
                                         radio show. I mean it must have
                                         
                                         been absolutely trash. You were in there with your iPod and Anna
                                         
                                         just held it up to the mic.
                                         
                                         Ambie Bambie out in the tear tonight,
                                         
    
                                         she's going to paint the town red.
                                         
                                         We'd do a great radio
                                         
                                         show together, wouldn't we? We would, but I want
                                         
                                         a TV show for us. but the problem with the radio is
                                         
                                         it's so restrictive
                                         
                                         like
                                         
                                         so
                                         
                                         that was my point
                                         
    
                                         about the breakfast
                                         
                                         everyone wants breakfast radio
                                         
                                         because that's like the best show
                                         
                                         to have on radio
                                         
                                         but like
                                         
                                         I don't want to go
                                         
                                         I don't even
                                         
                                         I don't even want to have
                                         
    
                                         a lunchtime radio show
                                         
                                         I don't want to be up
                                         
                                         I don't want to be up
                                         
                                         before 11am
                                         
                                         I know but it's every day
                                         
                                         that you have to do it
                                         
                                         I guess we do kind of
                                         
                                         have a radio show
                                         
    
                                         that we can kind of get up but yeah no it's not on the radio it's not Jo it's every day that you have to do it. I guess we do kind of have a radio show that we can get up.
                                         
                                         But yeah.
                                         
                                         No, it's not on the radio.
                                         
                                         Jo, it's not the same thing.
                                         
                                         We want a breakfast radio show, but we don't want to start it till...
                                         
                                         We don't want a breakfast radio show.
                                         
                                         No, we don't.
                                         
                                         I don't.
                                         
    
                                         Unless we can pre-record at 11pm at night.
                                         
                                         Well, if we...
                                         
                                         Come here.
                                         
                                         If we're getting paid, but they're getting paid, I'll do a breakfast radio show.
                                         
                                         Is it big money?
                                         
                                         Big money.
                                         
                                         Do you know what they pay in Australia?
                                         
                                         They're on like four mil a year or something. Like mad money. What? Yeah, we'll do a breakfast radio show is it big money big money do you know what they pay in Australia they're on like
                                         
    
                                         four mil a year
                                         
                                         or something
                                         
                                         like mad money
                                         
                                         what
                                         
                                         yeah we'll do
                                         
                                         we want a breakfast radio show
                                         
                                         in Australia
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
    
                                         and do it from here
                                         
                                         so we can do it at night
                                         
                                         yes
                                         
                                         boom
                                         
                                         oh my god
                                         
                                         and you'll have to
                                         
                                         record your bits in the morning
                                         
                                         and I'll do my bits
                                         
    
                                         and give it to
                                         
                                         put it into the AI
                                         
                                         and let them mix it up
                                         
                                         we've just made our perfect job.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         So if anyone in Australia is listening, which I'm sure they're not.
                                         
                                         Speaking of jobs, did you see what Anne Hathaway came out and said?
                                         
                                         I know what you're going to say.
                                         
    
                                         Shift 10 lads for a job or something.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Well, she called it a gross act.
                                         
                                         I don't know if that would be so gross myself.
                                         
                                         Depends. Do we know who the lads are? You know what? You know the way I'm always like if that would be so gross myself. Depends who they were.
                                         
                                         Do we know who the lads are?
                                         
                                         You know what?
                                         
                                         You know the way I'm always like,
                                         
    
                                         oh, he's a ride.
                                         
                                         Oh, I'd give him one
                                         
                                         and I'm married
                                         
                                         and I have no intention of doing it.
                                         
                                         Acting is the perfect way
                                         
                                         for me to vent
                                         
                                         my sexual urges.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
    
                                         So she was told,
                                         
                                         basically,
                                         
                                         she was doing a chemistry test
                                         
                                         and she was told that
                                         
                                         we have 10 guys coming today.
                                         
                                         Are you excited to make out
                                         
                                         with all of them?
                                         
                                         And she was a bit like,
                                         
    
                                         oh,
                                         
                                         and I mean,
                                         
                                         I suppose kissing 10 different guys
                                         
                                         in one day would be a bit much.
                                         
                                         It's Irish college.
                                         
                                         Irish college is about 30 a day.
                                         
                                         That's actually true, yeah.
                                         
                                         That was a slow day for me
                                         
    
                                         down in the Grail.
                                         
                                         It was terrible.
                                         
                                         But why?
                                         
                                         I don't understand.
                                         
                                         Sorry if this is a silly thing to say,
                                         
                                         but like,
                                         
                                         how come I,
                                         
                                         as just a laymanman have to kiss lads
                                         
    
                                         with no chemistry
                                         
                                         and not get paid
                                         
                                         like why does she
                                         
                                         need chemistry with anyone
                                         
                                         is she not an actress
                                         
                                         I don't get it
                                         
                                         the great way
                                         
                                         is speed dating
                                         
    
                                         speed kissing
                                         
                                         but like
                                         
                                         why do you have to have
                                         
                                         chemistry as an actress
                                         
                                         do you not act the chemistry
                                         
                                         is that not kind of the point
                                         
                                         well you can't really
                                         
                                         have chemistry
                                         
    
                                         with somebody
                                         
                                         who's completely shite
                                         
                                         like you can't
                                         
                                         I remember
                                         
                                         what if they're a great actor and she's like I don't like his tongue's a shite. Like, you can't. I remember...
                                         
                                         What if they're a great actor
                                         
                                         and she's like,
                                         
                                         I don't like...
                                         
    
                                         His tongue's a bit jagged or something.
                                         
                                         He doesn't get the job.
                                         
                                         I wonder...
                                         
                                         Well, it depends.
                                         
                                         Imagine he had a chemistry test
                                         
                                         and it was like Brad Pitt.
                                         
                                         Give me my good line of Brad Pitt.
                                         
                                         Not into him.
                                         
    
                                         Ah.
                                         
                                         Are you mad?
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
                                         No, not into him.
                                         
                                         Not since he hit the kids on the plane.
                                         
                                         Oh, God.
                                         
                                         He didn't.
                                         
                                         Sorry if I don't find domestic abuse sexy.
                                         
    
                                         I'm not into it.
                                         
                                         I'd probably score,
                                         
                                         what's his name?
                                         
                                         He's got the most symmetrical face.
                                         
                                         He crashed the plane
                                         
                                         because he was doing coke and drinking.
                                         
                                         Denzel Washington.
                                         
                                         I don't know anything about that story.
                                         
    
                                         It was a film.
                                         
                                         No, it's not real life.
                                         
                                         Oh God.
                                         
                                         Denzel Washington was flying a plane
                                         
                                         and crashed it after doing bad.
                                         
                                         Allegedly.
                                         
                                         I was like, I need to upkeep my Washington was flying a plane and crashed it after doing back, allegedly. I was like, I thought I need to upkeep
                                         
                                         my daily mail reading.
                                         
    
                                         I've really slowed down.
                                         
                                         When I read that about Anne Hathaway,
                                         
                                         it brought up something in my own past career.
                                         
                                         So do you remember,
                                         
                                         I don't know if you ever did that,
                                         
                                         but I used to go for auditions for ads
                                         
                                         and to try and get an ad
                                         
                                         because the Holy Grail was getting an ad
                                         
    
                                         because you get paid like a grand or something.
                                         
                                         And I didn't have to be on the Grafton Street in a bikini. It was great. So I went for this audition for an ad because the Holy Grail was getting an ad because you get paid like a grand or something and I didn't have to be on the Grafton Street
                                         
                                         in a bikini.
                                         
                                         It was great.
                                         
                                         So I went for this audition
                                         
                                         for an ad.
                                         
                                         They let you indoors.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I was allowed inside.
                                         
    
                                         I didn't get hypothermia
                                         
                                         for once.
                                         
                                         You're like a little dog
                                         
                                         and there's a cat
                                         
                                         with your nose up
                                         
                                         against the window.
                                         
                                         I'd like to go inside.
                                         
                                         Please, please.
                                         
    
                                         And they like wrap you
                                         
                                         in a rug
                                         
                                         and you're like shaking
                                         
                                         from the cold.
                                         
                                         They're like,
                                         
                                         aww. She's a street model now. She shaking from the cold. They're like, aw.
                                         
                                         She's a street model now.
                                         
                                         She's a house model.
                                         
    
                                         She's a house model.
                                         
                                         I always wanted to be a house indoor model.
                                         
                                         So I went to this audition
                                         
                                         and they were like,
                                         
                                         you've got to kiss this guy.
                                         
                                         But it was for like a brand,
                                         
                                         a family kind of brand.
                                         
                                         I wasn't really thinking along those any lines.
                                         
    
                                         So anyway, it was a male model and me, delighted.
                                         
                                         And they were like, oh, just have and me, delighted. And they were like,
                                         
                                         oh, just have like
                                         
                                         a little kiss.
                                         
                                         And they were obviously
                                         
                                         thinking like,
                                         
                                         have a little kiss
                                         
                                         after you've bought
                                         
    
                                         your family friendly stuff.
                                         
                                         And we full on like
                                         
                                         tongued,
                                         
                                         because I just kind of
                                         
                                         went with what he was doing.
                                         
                                         And I remember they were like,
                                         
                                         I'll never forget their faces.
                                         
                                         They were just like,
                                         
    
                                         oh, contorted.
                                         
                                         We basically started
                                         
                                         riding over in the corner
                                         
                                         just dry riding each other
                                         
                                         well like
                                         
                                         they obviously
                                         
                                         weren't briefed correctly
                                         
                                         or else he was
                                         
    
                                         briefed correctly
                                         
                                         he knew exactly
                                         
                                         what he was doing
                                         
                                         I was 17
                                         
                                         that was kissing at the time
                                         
                                         yeah of course
                                         
                                         that's what we did
                                         
                                         it was supposed to be
                                         
    
                                         just a family peck
                                         
                                         it was meant to be
                                         
                                         just a family peck
                                         
                                         it was when he started
                                         
                                         putting his hands
                                         
                                         down my pants
                                         
                                         I said no
                                         
                                         you gotta stop guys
                                         
    
                                         did you not get it
                                         
                                         no
                                         
                                         unusually no
                                         
                                         I didn't get it
                                         
                                         get that whore out of here
                                         
                                         put her back in the
                                         
                                         lowest line where she belongs
                                         
                                         someone throw some
                                         
    
                                         snow in her face
                                         
                                         there's so much boards
                                         
                                         well I
                                         
                                         turned 41
                                         
                                         this week
                                         
                                         I didn't know if I was
                                         
                                         allowed to say that
                                         
                                         happy birthday thank you did you notice I didn't put if I was allowed to say that. Happy birthday.
                                         
    
                                         Thank you.
                                         
                                         Did you notice I didn't put it up yesterday?
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
                                         You're welcome.
                                         
                                         There's birthday people.
                                         
                                         There's two types of birthday people.
                                         
                                         There's the people who go absolutely hell for leather about their birthday,
                                         
                                         like they've turned eight again.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And there's the people who are quite discreet about their birthday.
                                         
                                         I am a discreet birthday person.
                                         
                                         I would like to think I am too,
                                         
                                         but I have started throwing myself parties.
                                         
                                         But now you throw yourself parties. I don't really. I would like to think I am too but I have started throwing myself parties but now you throw yourself parties.
                                         
                                         I don't really.
                                         
                                         I was at your party.
                                         
    
                                         We weren't really now.
                                         
                                         You had a party yesterday as well.
                                         
                                         I didn't really now.
                                         
                                         I just eat dinner
                                         
                                         and then I tell them
                                         
                                         it's my birthday party
                                         
                                         to make them pay for it.
                                         
                                         Do you know what I mean?
                                         
    
                                         That's actually a very good idea.
                                         
                                         So we went for dinner
                                         
                                         before Magic Mike
                                         
                                         and I announced it was my birthday
                                         
                                         and then obviously
                                         
                                         the pressure was off to pay
                                         
                                         and then my friend Onya
                                         
                                         came over for my birthday yesterday and of course took me out for dinner
                                         
    
                                         because it was my birthday. So I think I've had my fill of free dinners. That's two free
                                         
                                         dinners I've had now.
                                         
                                         Now you just need your free gifts.
                                         
                                         I need my free gifts. But I woke up and I swear, do you know the way we always talk,
                                         
                                         do you know the way we talk about complaining and how we don't really complain because I'm
                                         
                                         embarrassed to complain?
                                         
                                         Oh, no, you're like Spenny. If something's not right,
                                         
                                         I would have a little complainy,
                                         
    
                                         but in a nice way.
                                         
                                         Well, I woke up this morning,
                                         
                                         41 years of age,
                                         
                                         straight down to my local... Post office.
                                         
                                         Restaurant.
                                         
                                         I thought you were going to complain
                                         
                                         to the post office.
                                         
                                         No, I went down to my local
                                         
    
                                         and I complained.
                                         
                                         I complained twice
                                         
                                         by the time I got here.
                                         
                                         I don't know what's happened.
                                         
                                         I'm 41 and I'm out for blood.
                                         
                                         Do you know what drives me?
                                         
                                         Bananas.
                                         
                                         Hard eggs.
                                         
    
                                         First world problems, etc.
                                         
                                         No, I've sorted that.
                                         
                                         You order a salad.
                                         
                                         On a menu, say,
                                         
                                         they're like salad.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Chopped salad.
                                         
                                         You can choose to add chicken
                                         
    
                                         if you so wish.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         So I'll say,
                                         
                                         chopped salad, add the chicken.
                                         
                                         Salad came out
                                         
                                         and I called your man back.
                                         
                                         I said, no fucking way.
                                         
                                         I pulled the chicken off
                                         
    
                                         I said are you telling me
                                         
                                         that if I hadn't ordered
                                         
                                         the extra chicken
                                         
                                         you were going to give me
                                         
                                         three scoops of couscous
                                         
                                         two cherry tomatoes
                                         
                                         and a bit of dry courgette
                                         
                                         I was so enraged
                                         
    
                                         because I know
                                         
                                         I don't like that
                                         
                                         I don't like being given
                                         
                                         way too small a portion
                                         
                                         what the fuck
                                         
                                         it was like 20 pounds
                                         
                                         no no
                                         
                                         see I would complain
                                         
    
                                         about that though
                                         
                                         I'm not going to go
                                         
                                         into the details
                                         
                                         woke up 41 years of age.
                                         
                                         I've complained twice on the way in here.
                                         
                                         I think I'm in my complaint era.
                                         
                                         No, I think, honestly,
                                         
                                         you can't start complaining before the age of 60.
                                         
    
                                         My mum started around,
                                         
                                         she started early.
                                         
                                         She was around 55
                                         
                                         and she hasn't stopped complaining since.
                                         
                                         She's on a roll.
                                         
                                         She's on a roll.
                                         
                                         Anybody will like,
                                         
                                         but then she'll take nicely to somebody.
                                         
    
                                         Like, she's got a friend that she really likes
                                         
                                         because the friend is really old.
                                         
                                         So she feels like she's helping her and she'll be really nice to her. But everyone else, she's got a friend that she really likes because the friend is really old. So she feels like she's helping her
                                         
                                         and she'll be really nice to her.
                                         
                                         But everyone else, she's kind of just miffed about.
                                         
                                         Miffed? There's that word again.
                                         
                                         Am I turning English?
                                         
                                         Oh my God.
                                         
    
                                         What's happened?
                                         
                                         I don't know about miffed.
                                         
                                         I don't even know if miffed is an English word.
                                         
                                         Oh my God.
                                         
                                         There's probably people out there
                                         
                                         who are still booking jobs
                                         
                                         that will just remember me as that girl
                                         
                                         who just came in and ate someone's head
                                         
    
                                         instead of pecking them.
                                         
                                         And I think we were like,
                                         
                                         like we were literally just like,
                                         
                                         hi.
                                         
                                         And I literally was like, hi.
                                         
                                         Mom!
                                         
                                         Do you know that Garou,
                                         
                                         do you know my very good friend?
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         He had a job once called a flasher.
                                         
                                         Oh. He was actually called, the once called a flasher. Oh.
                                         
                                         He was actually called, the job title was flasher.
                                         
                                         So that was his role?
                                         
                                         His role was flasher and he used to have to stick stickers on biscuit tins
                                         
                                         saying that there was a reduction on them.
                                         
                                         And for every 40 biscuit tins, he got 12 cents or something in saying.
                                         
    
                                         But his title was flasher.
                                         
                                         What, so he just, just to put stickers on things?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I actually looked up, because I knew we were going to be talking about jobs
                                         
                                         the worst jobs in history
                                         
                                         do you want to hear them
                                         
                                         oh yeah I do yeah
                                         
                                         there was
                                         
    
                                         oh she's going to get really dark now
                                         
                                         remember that thing you told me about the pig
                                         
                                         where they burn someone alive
                                         
                                         in the
                                         
                                         oh desperate
                                         
                                         and then the squealing
                                         
                                         it was built
                                         
                                         do you know
                                         
    
                                         do you know that these things stick in my mind
                                         
                                         well just for anyone
                                         
                                         for anyone who doesn't listen to that
                                         
                                         there was an empty
                                         
                                         big tin can of a pig and they put someone inside it these things stick in my mind. Well, just for anyone who doesn't listen to that, there was an empty,
                                         
                                         big tin can of a pig and they put someone inside it
                                         
                                         and burned them from underneath
                                         
                                         and then their screams
                                         
    
                                         would come out
                                         
                                         the nose of the pig.
                                         
                                         And it would sound like a squeal.
                                         
                                         It was really awful.
                                         
                                         It was a torture device.
                                         
                                         It was a torture device.
                                         
                                         I'm telling you,
                                         
                                         people say the world
                                         
    
                                         is burning today.
                                         
                                         Put you in medieval England.
                                         
                                         Oh, God.
                                         
                                         Mother of God.
                                         
                                         And I told you about that thing
                                         
                                         where they just push someone
                                         
                                         into a pit of spikes and just let them die slowly Oh God. And I told you about that thing where they just push someone into a pit of spikes
                                         
                                         and just let them die
                                         
    
                                         slowly.
                                         
                                         God.
                                         
                                         The role of
                                         
                                         groom of the stool.
                                         
                                         So the groomer
                                         
                                         of the stool
                                         
                                         was required to
                                         
                                         take the monarch
                                         
    
                                         to the toilet,
                                         
                                         check the stool
                                         
                                         and clean the royal bottom.
                                         
                                         How could you let anyone
                                         
                                         wipe your arse?
                                         
                                         Like honestly.
                                         
                                         When you're royal,
                                         
                                         back in the day
                                         
    
                                         royals were really royals.
                                         
                                         I suppose it was
                                         
                                         kind of disgusting. Now they're just fridge magnets. back in the day royals were really royals, you know. I suppose it was kind of disgusting.
                                         
                                         Now they're just fridge magnets.
                                         
                                         They were proper.
                                         
                                         Do you know what I mean? It was like a proper thing.
                                         
                                         Now no one gives a shit. The amount of orases
                                         
                                         I have to go around wiping a day.
                                         
    
                                         I've gotten to the point, you won't have gotten there yet, Jo,
                                         
                                         where I'll walk into a toilet and there's just a big
                                         
                                         I'll open the toilet to just sit down and go
                                         
                                         to the toilet and there's just like faecal matter
                                         
                                         in the toilet. Quite a large amount of it. And it could be any given toilet. I don't know if it's the kids. I to the toilet and there's just like faecal matter in the toilet quite a large amount of it
                                         
                                         and it could be
                                         
                                         any given toilet.
                                         
                                         I don't know if it's the kids.
                                         
    
                                         I don't know if it's Spencer.
                                         
                                         I just know that I'm living
                                         
                                         in a shit show.
                                         
                                         The joy of motherhood.
                                         
                                         A tosher.
                                         
                                         Someone who used to
                                         
                                         trawl through sewers
                                         
                                         in search of anything valuable.
                                         
    
                                         Oh no.
                                         
                                         You're just giving out
                                         
                                         about getting up
                                         
                                         from breakfast radio.
                                         
                                         There's no real need
                                         
                                         for that by the way.
                                         
                                         There's no need for that job.
                                         
                                         What are you going to find down in the sewers?
                                         
    
                                         That's what I'm saying.
                                         
                                         Who swallows their fucking pearl earrings?
                                         
                                         Like, I don't get it.
                                         
                                         There was a Welsh tradition of sin eating,
                                         
                                         where when someone died,
                                         
                                         they would put a piece of bread on their chest
                                         
                                         and then a sin eater would eat the piece of bread off their chest
                                         
                                         and that would take their sins off them.
                                         
    
                                         Really bizarre, really, isn't it?
                                         
                                         You'll notice now
                                         
                                         when you turn up
                                         
                                         to my funeral,
                                         
                                         I have an open casket
                                         
                                         and a 12-inch soap
                                         
                                         on my stomach
                                         
                                         for all my sins
                                         
    
                                         for you to chew off of.
                                         
                                         Thank you.
                                         
                                         Sorry,
                                         
                                         but we haven't actually
                                         
                                         spoken about
                                         
                                         the fact that
                                         
                                         I was 38 years old
                                         
                                         when I realised that I was 38 years old when I realised
                                         
    
                                         that I was
                                         
                                         shit in bed
                                         
                                         Joanne
                                         
                                         Oh my god
                                         
                                         Joanne took
                                         
                                         us to
                                         
                                         Magic Mike
                                         
                                         Yeah
                                         
    
                                         on Friday night
                                         
                                         Yeah
                                         
                                         and I have to say
                                         
                                         I didn't quite understand
                                         
                                         what was going on
                                         
                                         when it was happening
                                         
                                         I had
                                         
                                         so
                                         
    
                                         much
                                         
                                         fun
                                         
                                         It was great
                                         
                                         It was so
                                         
                                         funny Yeah So I'd been to Magic Mike in Las Vegas and I loved it so much fun. It was great. It was so funny.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         So I'd been to Magic Mike
                                         
                                         in Las Vegas
                                         
    
                                         and I loved it
                                         
                                         and I was on the podcast
                                         
                                         banging on about the fact
                                         
                                         it was a feminist masterpiece
                                         
                                         and then Magic Mike
                                         
                                         got in touch
                                         
                                         and invited us in
                                         
                                         to go and see the London one.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And I was so pleased
                                         
                                         because it's exactly the same.
                                         
                                         They did it exactly the same.
                                         
                                         But what I will say is
                                         
                                         what's really fun
                                         
                                         about the London one is
                                         
                                         and like the Las Vegas one
                                         
    
                                         as much as I loved it,
                                         
                                         I think the London one
                                         
                                         was even sexier
                                         
                                         because there was no like tats.
                                         
                                         Like they weren't like tattoo.
                                         
                                         Like they all look like
                                         
                                         fucking Pogues Malone
                                         
                                         in the London one
                                         
    
                                         which is way sexier
                                         
                                         than the kind of
                                         
                                         bare, naked,
                                         
                                         raw, clean skin
                                         
                                         of the Las Vegas one.
                                         
                                         I like a bit of rough and ready,
                                         
                                         you know.
                                         
                                         I know.
                                         
    
                                         One lad was,
                                         
                                         I don't know if it was veneers
                                         
                                         or a grill, but his teeth
                                         
                                         were popping. I know who you're talking
                                         
                                         about. Yeah. But you know what, though? I've never seen
                                         
                                         so much humping in my life. I
                                         
                                         know. Oh my God, they literally, but
                                         
                                         I think it's very inclusive. A lot
                                         
    
                                         of people got humped. They told us at the start,
                                         
                                         they're like, if you don't want someone humping
                                         
                                         you, just say unicorn. And so
                                         
                                         they came over and this guy came to just kiss
                                         
                                         Joanne's hand and I was like, unicorn!
                                         
                                         Because I just really
                                         
                                         didn't want to be humped.
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
    
                                         And that's why I really like it
                                         
                                         because it's not like
                                         
                                         back in the day,
                                         
                                         I don't know what
                                         
                                         Magic Mike was like
                                         
                                         in medieval England
                                         
                                         which I'm obsessed with.
                                         
                                         It was such a tougher time to live.
                                         
    
                                         They probably didn't have
                                         
                                         a safe word in medieval England
                                         
                                         for Magic Mike.
                                         
                                         But this one,
                                         
                                         they give you the safe word
                                         
                                         and it's led by a woman.
                                         
                                         There's a female MC
                                         
                                         she was brilliant as well
                                         
    
                                         and then the female dancer
                                         
                                         that incredibly sexy dance
                                         
                                         where they actually
                                         
                                         bring up a randomer
                                         
                                         from the audience
                                         
                                         and it turns out
                                         
                                         she's like you know
                                         
                                         basically Tina Turner
                                         
    
                                         a spoiler
                                         
                                         Joanna
                                         
                                         as you always say to me
                                         
                                         is that a spoiler alert?
                                         
                                         I mean it's pretty obvious
                                         
                                         once you're there
                                         
                                         I have to say
                                         
                                         it was a good show
                                         
    
                                         but it made me think
                                         
                                         they do so much air humping around the place there when they get home they can't be doing I mean, it's pretty obvious once you're there. I have to say it was a good show, but it made me think, right?
                                         
                                         They do so much air humping around the place there.
                                         
                                         When they get home,
                                         
                                         they can't be doing much riding.
                                         
                                         I'd say that they are like,
                                         
                                         if you're going to go out with one of the Magic Mike boys,
                                         
                                         you're going to have to go on top all the time.
                                         
    
                                         Yes, because they're wrecked from work.
                                         
                                         They're wrecked from work.
                                         
                                         I don't even remember the last time I was on top.
                                         
                                         I genuinely don't.
                                         
                                         I could, and I'm married.
                                         
                                         You're married, I know. We always talk about that. We never go on top. I'm don't. Oh, God. And I'm married. You're married, I know.
                                         
                                         We always talk about that.
                                         
                                         We never go on top.
                                         
    
                                         I'm going to go on top tonight.
                                         
                                         I'll tell you about it tomorrow.
                                         
                                         I'm going to go on top.
                                         
                                         Celebrate magic, Mark.
                                         
                                         Spenny will be fucking terrified.
                                         
                                         Get her away.
                                         
                                         What's happening here?
                                         
                                         But Joanne, not only did she organize...
                                         
    
                                         It was very sexy.
                                         
                                         Sorry, it was a very sexy night.
                                         
                                         It was a very sexy night.
                                         
                                         And Joanne very kindly organised
                                         
                                         a meet and greet
                                         
                                         for after the show
                                         
                                         which we were only
                                         
                                         thrilled about
                                         
    
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         now I don't know
                                         
                                         if the lads were that thrilled
                                         
                                         they had a second show
                                         
                                         we went to like
                                         
                                         the matinee magic mic
                                         
                                         they have three shows
                                         
                                         on a Saturday
                                         
    
                                         was it three?
                                         
                                         that was show two
                                         
                                         and they were not
                                         
                                         I mean I felt
                                         
                                         I thought it was only two
                                         
                                         oh god love them
                                         
                                         I know
                                         
                                         it's really full on and they're waiting for a picture and then halfway through the show it started putting on lip liner
                                         
    
                                         and Tron's like are you putting on lip liner for the book so I remembered as we were sitting there
                                         
                                         watching Magic Mike I said to Vogue I leaned over and said remember now we've a meet and greet with
                                         
                                         these lads and then I turned back to look at more humping and when I looked to my side again
                                         
                                         Vogue was laying that lip liner on pick out and you see
                                         
                                         now she's sitting
                                         
                                         in the dark
                                         
                                         you'll see the pencil
                                         
                                         going like
                                         
    
                                         ballistic on her face
                                         
                                         you're putting on
                                         
                                         that for the last
                                         
                                         I was like
                                         
                                         you're married
                                         
                                         you shouldn't even
                                         
                                         be doing that
                                         
                                         but we got backstage
                                         
    
                                         anyway
                                         
                                         and we got
                                         
                                         we got pictures
                                         
                                         with them
                                         
                                         and I swear
                                         
                                         to God
                                         
                                         I have shown you
                                         
                                         the pictures
                                         
    
                                         so I was wearing
                                         
                                         this top
                                         
                                         with no brand
                                         
                                         which I will never
                                         
                                         be wearing again and I looked at the pictures. So I was wearing this top with no brand which I will never be wearing again.
                                         
                                         And I looked at the pictures
                                         
                                         and we're standing there like delighted with ourselves,
                                         
                                         standing with the boys. And honestly, you can see
                                         
    
                                         the veins in my chest. They all
                                         
                                         have bigger tits than me. I look
                                         
                                         so... That's why I can't post them. I haven't sent
                                         
                                         them to you because I cannot have one of them go
                                         
                                         out there. Yeah, I don't remember
                                         
                                         seeing them now. There was a couple of drinks on board.
                                         
                                         But look, we'll have it for our own private collection.
                                         
                                         I know, and then I, and then, do you know what I did?
                                         
    
                                         I'm like, oh. You should have stuffed your bra, Vogue.
                                         
                                         We could be using those photos. I know, I just didn't.
                                         
                                         I'll see if someone can do a bit of work.
                                         
                                         You can photoshop them. Joe will do a little bit of photoshop.
                                         
                                         Throw them into the AI, Vogue.
                                         
                                         Throw them into the AI, that's a good idea.
                                         
                                         Throw them into the AI. But then, after I'd had my
                                         
                                         picture with the boys, I went and asked
                                         
    
                                         Mike for a selfie on my own
                                         
                                         and I was like
                                         
                                         why?
                                         
                                         I saw it after
                                         
                                         and I was like
                                         
                                         I am
                                         
                                         so embarrassed
                                         
                                         like I wouldn't even ask
                                         
    
                                         Tina Turner
                                         
                                         in her
                                         
                                         in her alive days
                                         
                                         for a picture
                                         
                                         I think it would have
                                         
                                         been a soft swap for him
                                         
                                         did you?
                                         
                                         I could hear you kind of
                                         
    
                                         pulsing beside me
                                         
                                         when he was on
                                         
                                         he was right
                                         
                                         but it was just
                                         
                                         no
                                         
                                         not for me.
                                         
                                         Anyway, we had a ball
                                         
                                         and you know,
                                         
    
                                         that's what we are.
                                         
                                         We're just big into,
                                         
                                         we're big into art.
                                         
                                         We're just,
                                         
                                         we're just culture vultures.
                                         
                                         We're just West End gals
                                         
                                         going for West End shows.
                                         
                                         You know what I mean?
                                         
    
                                         The Hippodrome is a weird
                                         
                                         ass place, isn't it?
                                         
                                         It's on the Hippodrome
                                         
                                         in Leicester Square.
                                         
                                         I really don't like,
                                         
                                         I don't like casinos at all.
                                         
                                         I actually hate them.
                                         
                                         I hate even walking into them.
                                         
    
                                         They're a bit oppressive. So much carpet. And I don't like casinos at all. I actually hate them. I hate even walking into them. They're a bit oppressive.
                                         
                                         So much carpet.
                                         
                                         And I don't like the glasses they have.
                                         
                                         They never have nice glasses for drinks.
                                         
                                         Okay, I'm at that age now
                                         
                                         where I want a nice thin glass.
                                         
                                         That's all I want.
                                         
                                         I was on Lorraine this week
                                         
    
                                         and I was wearing a...
                                         
                                         I don't know if you saw it,
                                         
                                         but I was wearing these new pants
                                         
                                         that have come out, right?
                                         
                                         They're like shapewear pants
                                         
                                         but they have an arse
                                         
                                         so they're padded arse pants
                                         
                                         oh nice
                                         
    
                                         yeah great
                                         
                                         that I was wearing on telly
                                         
                                         and it really made a difference
                                         
                                         to the bum bum bum pants
                                         
                                         is that what they're called?
                                         
                                         the bum bum pants
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         are they actually called
                                         
    
                                         bum bum pants?
                                         
                                         I think so
                                         
                                         why what's wrong about
                                         
                                         why are you so shocked?
                                         
                                         it's very child
                                         
                                         well they're not going to be
                                         
                                         called arse pants
                                         
                                         no but I'm actually
                                         
    
                                         I'm asking genuinely are they called bum bum pants? well I thought they were called bum bum pants but, they're not going to be called arse pants. No, but I'm actually, I'm asking genuinely, are they
                                         
                                         called bum bum pants? Well, I thought they were called
                                         
                                         bum bum pants, but maybe they're not. Maybe they're just called
                                         
                                         shapewear pants. Let's have a look.
                                         
                                         Butt shapewear,
                                         
                                         padded bum, fab lift.
                                         
                                         Yeah. Butt shape power.
                                         
                                         I did feel a bit, no,
                                         
    
                                         okay, well, I felt a bit weird going around in them anyway
                                         
                                         because I sat down on the couch then to talk to Lorraine
                                         
                                         and I kind of bounced back off. I was just like, they're just so filled. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I wear a bit weird going around in them anyway because I sat down on the couch then to talk to Lorraine and I kind of bounced back off.
                                         
                                         I was just like, they're just so filled.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         But I wear a really padded bra, so I don't want to be too much.
                                         
                                         You don't want to be bouncing around too much.
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
    
                                         No.
                                         
                                         When filming in a relatively unknown film,
                                         
                                         Shia LaBeouf apparently had to orgasm on scene.
                                         
                                         An actual orgasm. an actual orgasm.
                                         
                                         An actual orgasm.
                                         
                                         He said he feels a bit weird knowing his orgasm face
                                         
                                         is out there for everyone to see.
                                         
                                         So he actually orgasmed, like, proper.
                                         
    
                                         What the fuck?
                                         
                                         Why?
                                         
                                         I don't understand.
                                         
                                         Like, how arty is art?
                                         
                                         That's too indie.
                                         
                                         Like, you wouldn't see that in Coronation Street.
                                         
                                         Imagine.
                                         
                                         No, no.
                                         
    
                                         You're not supposed to act.
                                         
                                         Why can't you just pretend he's orgasming?
                                         
                                         Like, we do.
                                         
                                         Every weekend.
                                         
                                         You're not supposed to act.
                                         
                                         Why can't you just pretend he's orgasming like we do?
                                         
                                         Every weekend.
                                         
                                         I'm going on a slightly work-related... I'm doing one show in the Etihad Arena
                                         
    
                                         with Tommy Tiernan and Kevin Bridges.
                                         
                                         And then the organiser said,
                                         
                                         do you want...
                                         
                                         You can stay on in the hotel if you want.
                                         
                                         For how long?
                                         
                                         So I'm going to stay,
                                         
                                         I'm going on a single woman Sunday holiday
                                         
                                         on my own for five nights.
                                         
    
                                         To Abu Dhabi?
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         You could go to Ferrari World.
                                         
                                         Is that over there?
                                         
                                         Yeah, I've been to Ferrari World.
                                         
                                         You could go there.
                                         
                                         I need things to do because I'm...
                                         
                                         You could go to Dubai.
                                         
    
                                         What?
                                         
                                         You could go to Dubai.
                                         
                                         I could go to Dubai.
                                         
                                         Oh my gosh
                                         
                                         I feel like
                                         
                                         Joanne you're going to sit on your arse
                                         
                                         at that hotel pool
                                         
                                         that is your dream
                                         
    
                                         and it is your duty
                                         
                                         actually I
                                         
                                         wonder
                                         
                                         how much
                                         
                                         a long time I can take
                                         
                                         I'll probably have a mental health crisis
                                         
                                         but I just couldn't turn down a freebie, even at the expense of
                                         
                                         my mental health. I have to go.
                                         
    
                                         And I'm going to become one of those, can I join you
                                         
                                         people? Do you know when you're on holidays and someone's
                                         
                                         like, I know, can I join
                                         
                                         you? Do you mind if I join? I say day three, I'm like, would you mind
                                         
                                         if I join you? Like some couple on their honeymoon.
                                         
                                         They're like, we do actually, yeah.
                                         
                                         Five days is a long time. Could you not hang out with the boys
                                         
                                         for a couple of days? I think they're only staying for
                                         
    
                                         the night of the show oh my god I love
                                         
                                         Kevin Bridges as you
                                         
                                         know he's my favourite
                                         
                                         male comedian
                                         
                                         I know
                                         
                                         you're a big Kevin
                                         
                                         fan
                                         
                                         I'm so jealous
                                         
    
                                         I couldn't even do
                                         
                                         one night in Dubai
                                         
                                         on my own
                                         
                                         do you know that
                                         
                                         like I was going to
                                         
                                         stay one extra night
                                         
                                         because Fanny was
                                         
                                         going home and I was
                                         
    
                                         like I actually can't
                                         
                                         do that's how pathetic
                                         
                                         I am I'd love to be
                                         
                                         able to do what you're
                                         
                                         doing just go away on my own
                                         
                                         for a couple of days
                                         
                                         I don't know why
                                         
                                         I think it's such a big deal
                                         
    
                                         because I travel on my own
                                         
                                         all the time
                                         
                                         I think it's because
                                         
                                         it's like a decided holiday
                                         
                                         anyway I'm hoping
                                         
                                         for some sort of
                                         
                                         white lotus
                                         
                                         I kind of see myself
                                         
    
                                         as a Jennifer Coolidge
                                         
                                         I'd like to be
                                         
                                         a person of interest
                                         
                                         just to kind of
                                         
                                         spice up the week
                                         
                                         Margot Robbie
                                         
                                         was bridesmaid at her friend's wedding.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         Fair play to the friend.
                                         
                                         The friend must have a lot of confidence
                                         
                                         because I don't know.
                                         
                                         I just feel like Margot Robbie is actual Barbie.
                                         
                                         Like some of your friends are just really, really hot
                                         
                                         and like there's nothing that you can do about it.
                                         
                                         You can just hope that they have a bad personality.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         Like you'd hope Margot Robbie does,
                                         
                                         but I think she's actually meant to be quite sound.
                                         
                                         But I thought it was really, like,
                                         
                                         interesting that she would want her as a bridesmaid,
                                         
                                         which I thought was nice.
                                         
                                         And then it also made me think
                                         
                                         that all my friends think I'm ugly
                                         
                                         because they all had me.
                                         
    
                                         Anytime I've been a bridesmaid,
                                         
                                         it must be, oh, she's ugly enough to be my bridesmaid.
                                         
                                         So Liz Jones, she said,
                                         
                                         you should never have a bridesmaid younger, thinner,
                                         
                                         or more beautiful than you are.
                                         
                                         And I, like, I know I'm joking about the Margot Robbie thing,
                                         
                                         but is that not a bit strange?
                                         
                                         Yeah, it is a bit odd.
                                         
    
                                         Isn't that kind of Liz's thing though?
                                         
                                         She's a bit of like a shock journalist.
                                         
                                         So she'll say really controversial things for clickbait.
                                         
                                         But is it for clickbait?
                                         
                                         Or is she actually thinks that?
                                         
                                         I think if you want to have Margot Robbie as a bridesmaid,
                                         
                                         you probably want to like pop her in that Mr. Blobby suit or a wetsuit.
                                         
                                         Everyone looks ugly in a wetsuit.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, dress her down.
                                         
                                         Yeah, or like a swimming hat.
                                         
                                         A swimming hat.
                                         
                                         No one can escape a swimming hat.
                                         
                                         You're just a monster going around in a swimming hat.
                                         
                                         Have you watched the RTV documentary about Belle Gibson?
                                         
                                         I haven't watched it yet, but I know all about her.
                                         
                                         I read about it.
                                         
    
                                         So, have you heard about her, Joe?
                                         
                                         I thought you'd said Mel Gibson at first.
                                         
                                         So, no.
                                         
                                         So, Belle Gibson is probably a better actor than Mel.
                                         
                                         Belle was an Australian.
                                         
                                         She still is.
                                         
                                         She's still alive.
                                         
                                         She's an Australian con artist who basically is this gorgeous looking,
                                         
    
                                         very youthful,
                                         
                                         shiny haired,
                                         
                                         glowy skin.
                                         
                                         Blogger.
                                         
                                         She was a blogger.
                                         
                                         She was a blogger.
                                         
                                         That's right.
                                         
                                         She was a blogger.
                                         
    
                                         And then she had an Insta account
                                         
                                         and basically Belle claimed
                                         
                                         that she cured
                                         
                                         her inoperable terminal cancers,
                                         
                                         multiple,
                                         
                                         by basically eating berries
                                         
                                         and flax seeds
                                         
                                         and with some positive mental attitude
                                         
    
                                         and people believed her
                                         
                                         and she grew
                                         
                                         this huge business
                                         
                                         where she was making
                                         
                                         millions of dollars
                                         
                                         she brought out
                                         
                                         a cookbook
                                         
                                         she had an app
                                         
    
                                         that was making
                                         
                                         loads and loads of money
                                         
                                         and then
                                         
                                         obviously as you can
                                         
                                         guess
                                         
                                         it transpired
                                         
                                         there was absolutely
                                         
                                         nothing wrong with her
                                         
    
                                         and never had been
                                         
                                         and so her story just started falling apart.
                                         
                                         So when she brought out the book with Penguin,
                                         
                                         they hired a publicist to give her some media training
                                         
                                         and they have the video which they showed in the documentary
                                         
                                         and it's all about them asking her about her childhood
                                         
                                         and her story just kind of falls apart.
                                         
                                         So they're like, who's your doctor?
                                         
    
                                         That's when it fell apart.
                                         
                                         That's when they started saying,
                                         
                                         this doesn't make any sense.
                                         
                                         Who's your doctor?
                                         
                                         And do you know who she said her doctor was called?
                                         
                                         Who?
                                         
                                         Dr. Phil.
                                         
                                         Oh, God.
                                         
    
                                         And then she said...
                                         
                                         Go on.
                                         
                                         She said she had three heart surgeries,
                                         
                                         died on the operating table twice
                                         
                                         before being told by a medic
                                         
                                         she had an inoperable brain tumour
                                         
                                         and six months to live.
                                         
                                         That to me is just like...
                                         
    
                                         But that's a serious...
                                         
                                         Only since you told me to watch Baby Ranger,
                                         
                                         you would just think that those people are just, like, unhelpful.
                                         
                                         But that's actually somebody with a serious mental health issue.
                                         
                                         So she's not, she hasn't got cancer, but she's got something.
                                         
                                         She's definitely got something.
                                         
                                         She said that Dr. Phil came to her house and had this, like, it was kind of this, they're wacky, like, one of these wacky doctors.
                                         
                                         Like, you know know doctor of fucking
                                         
    
                                         alternative medicine
                                         
                                         so he's like
                                         
                                         a doctor of English
                                         
                                         or something
                                         
                                         but he has this machine
                                         
                                         that he brought around
                                         
                                         and kind of
                                         
                                         read her nervous energy
                                         
    
                                         and said she'd
                                         
                                         but like he never existed
                                         
                                         they never found him
                                         
                                         she just
                                         
                                         but like how did she
                                         
                                         get to the point
                                         
                                         where it was obviously
                                         
                                         something that when
                                         
    
                                         she said that she was sick
                                         
                                         that she
                                         
                                         got attention
                                         
                                         but she then people gave her she said that she she'd made all this money from her app and everything and when she said that she was sick that she got attention. But she then, people gave
                                         
                                         her, she said that she'd made all this money
                                         
                                         from her app and everything and then she said she was donating
                                         
                                         it to charity and then it never arrived
                                         
                                         in the charity accounts. I know.
                                         
    
                                         And then they kind of tracked
                                         
                                         it back. It's actually really interesting because
                                         
                                         her mum I think was
                                         
                                         very absent and so she
                                         
                                         I think her brother, she said her brother was
                                         
                                         autistic. Her brother's on the documentary
                                         
                                         going
                                         
                                         I'm not autistic
                                         
    
                                         stop
                                         
                                         so she lied about all these people
                                         
                                         but again
                                         
                                         they said when she was younger
                                         
                                         she was a real skater kid
                                         
                                         and a guy that she used to skate with
                                         
                                         did actually die
                                         
                                         God love him
                                         
    
                                         he did die
                                         
                                         of a brain tumour
                                         
                                         so she saw I think
                                         
                                         the outpouring
                                         
                                         and the attention
                                         
                                         and everything
                                         
                                         and then she just got
                                         
                                         gradually worse
                                         
    
                                         over the years
                                         
                                         but I
                                         
                                         you know I'm a big fan
                                         
                                         of those kind of stories,
                                         
                                         which sounds really dark,
                                         
                                         but I just find it fascinating, that human behaviour.
                                         
                                         There's loads of people, from what I can tell,
                                         
                                         who pretend they have cancer for money, sympathy, attention, etc, etc.
                                         
    
                                         She was just really fucking good at it.
                                         
                                         And because she was so young and gorgeous looking,
                                         
                                         I suppose people wanted to believe.
                                         
                                         I wanted to help her, though. Well, wanted to believe that it was so young and gorgeous looking, I suppose people wanted to believe. But she did to help her though.
                                         
                                         Well, wanted to believe
                                         
                                         that it was possible.
                                         
                                         Oh my God, no.
                                         
                                         She didn't even take her makeup off.
                                         
    
                                         She looked like she was
                                         
                                         selling vitamins.
                                         
                                         She made an absolute fortune.
                                         
                                         She was charged $240,000 for fraud.
                                         
                                         That's it.
                                         
                                         How much?
                                         
                                         $240,000.
                                         
                                         I mean, I suppose
                                         
    
                                         that's a lot of money
                                         
                                         because that's probably
                                         
                                         everything she earned.
                                         
                                         No, it's not.
                                         
                                         She made millions.
                                         
                                         Did she?
                                         
                                         Yes. She made millions. Did she? Yes.
                                         
                                         She made millions.
                                         
    
                                         And then she kind of disappeared
                                         
                                         in this kind of wave of shame.
                                         
                                         She was exiled.
                                         
                                         And then turned up.
                                         
                                         Now, I don't know the details.
                                         
                                         Obviously, I'm not big on deets.
                                         
                                         She turned up in some news report
                                         
                                         dressed as a Muslim woman in Africa somewhere
                                         
    
                                         with a kind of an accent.
                                         
                                         So she was trying to be another scammer somewhere else.
                                         
                                         She's obviously not well.
                                         
                                         God, it's so awkward.
                                         
                                         But the documentary,
                                         
                                         it's a really good watch.
                                         
                                         I need to watch that.
                                         
                                         Do.
                                         
    
                                         I'm always,
                                         
                                         like, look,
                                         
                                         you know,
                                         
                                         I'm always wary of people
                                         
                                         who are saying
                                         
                                         they cured,
                                         
                                         like, brain shamers
                                         
                                         by eating melons.
                                         
    
                                         But what,
                                         
                                         like, have you ever been scammed?
                                         
                                         I remember being scammed.
                                         
                                         It was when I was
                                         
                                         with an ex
                                         
                                         and there was some
                                         
                                         guy going around
                                         
                                         he was offering everyone
                                         
    
                                         this trip to New York
                                         
                                         he was working for
                                         
                                         a travel agent
                                         
                                         and you basically
                                         
                                         had to give him money
                                         
                                         and he was going to
                                         
                                         set you up in one of
                                         
                                         these Irish hotels
                                         
    
                                         over in New York
                                         
                                         so the whole thing
                                         
                                         kind of like made sense
                                         
                                         but it was a really
                                         
                                         like good price trip
                                         
                                         and so he scammed
                                         
                                         us and loads of
                                         
                                         other people
                                         
    
                                         and then ended up
                                         
                                         getting caught
                                         
                                         but not until like
                                         
                                         five or six years later.
                                         
                                         So he made like, he'd make a grand off each person,
                                         
                                         but imagine making that many enemies
                                         
                                         where you're not giving them their trip,
                                         
                                         but they've given you a grand.
                                         
    
                                         It's weird, isn't it?
                                         
                                         Like, how do you justify,
                                         
                                         I suppose you don't justify it.
                                         
                                         I suppose they just don't care.
                                         
                                         I suppose they just lack kind of that
                                         
                                         empathetic side that the rest of us have,
                                         
                                         that they don't, they've no shame in it.
                                         
                                         But there's another, did you find it,
                                         
    
                                         Jo? She was, she sort of
                                         
                                         adopted herself into
                                         
                                         an Ethiopian community.
                                         
                                         She popped up on the news
                                         
                                         in Australia
                                         
                                         and she was part of some Ethiopian community
                                         
                                         and she was wearing, like, the clothing
                                         
                                         and she had an Ethiopian accent.
                                         
    
                                         Didn't Lindsay Lohan
                                         
                                         go through a phase of that where she went away somewhere and she, like, came back and she'd an Ethiopian accent. Didn't Lindsay Lohan go through a phase of that
                                         
                                         where she went away somewhere
                                         
                                         and she came back and she'd completely changed
                                         
                                         and had the accent and everything?
                                         
                                         Yeah, it's kind of rubbed off on her.
                                         
                                         What, the singer's ear or something?
                                         
                                         Musical ear.
                                         
    
                                         I tell you what,
                                         
                                         I went in to get my ears cleaned.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         I was meant to pay 80 quid to get the ears cleaned
                                         
                                         and I thought if the ears are dirty,
                                         
                                         then I'm fine.
                                         
                                         There's no reason that I can't hear.
                                         
                                         So I went in to get them cleaned.
                                         
    
                                         She looked at my ears.
                                         
                                         She goes, your ears are spotless.
                                         
                                         I saw them myself, completely spotless.
                                         
                                         Amazing news.
                                         
                                         Which I was very surprised by because I use earbuds, which you're not supposed to.
                                         
                                         And I was sure I'd shoved some down.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And then she was like, I'll give you an ear test.
                                         
    
                                         Because I was like, I really can't hear, particularly when I'm in like loud places and someone's talking to me.
                                         
                                         She goes, I'll give you an ear test.
                                         
                                         Nothing wrong with ears.
                                         
                                         She said it's an attention issue.
                                         
                                         No way.
                                         
                                         She was like,
                                         
                                         some people come in
                                         
                                         with the same complaint
                                         
    
                                         and she was like,
                                         
                                         it's actually an attention issue.
                                         
                                         Like you're not,
                                         
                                         you're not like paying attention.
                                         
                                         So like,
                                         
                                         I'm like,
                                         
                                         I can't.
                                         
                                         Finally a diagnosis.
                                         
    
                                         You've got ADHD of the ears.
                                         
                                         You've got,
                                         
                                         you've perfect ear hearing.
                                         
                                         You've just got attention problems.
                                         
                                         And they've been telling me
                                         
                                         that since school.
                                         
                                         But I'm not surprised
                                         
                                         because I wasn't finished
                                         
    
                                         with Belle Gibson,
                                         
                                         but we're going on
                                         
                                         to something else.
                                         
                                         Oh my God.
                                         
                                         That happens all the time.
                                         
                                         It does.
                                         
                                         I told you,
                                         
                                         when I sometimes,
                                         
    
                                         I ask Benny a question
                                         
                                         and I just look at him
                                         
                                         and I start walking out the door
                                         
                                         and he's like,
                                         
                                         you just asked me a question.
                                         
                                         And I just,
                                         
                                         I'm like,
                                         
                                         that was just really boring
                                         
    
                                         where you were going with that.
                                         
                                         So what did she say?
                                         
                                         Is there anything you can do?
                                         
                                         Start paying attention more.
                                         
                                         Start giving shit about other people.
                                         
                                         And I said, I'm sorry,
                                         
                                         I can't do that.
                                         
                                         You're going to have to give me hearing aids.
                                         
    
                                         I refuse to start paying attention
                                         
                                         to anyone except myself.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I know.
                                         
                                         I wasn't sure whether to bring that up
                                         
                                         or not in the pod,
                                         
                                         but I thought, you know,
                                         
                                         they might ask me one day and then I'll be caught out. Well, I can. I wasn't sure whether to bring that up or not in the pod, but I thought, you know, they might ask
                                         
                                         me one day
                                         
    
                                         and then I'll
                                         
                                         be caught out.
                                         
                                         Well, I can't
                                         
                                         say I'm surprised.
                                         
                                         Robert Pattinson
                                         
                                         and Kristen Stewart
                                         
                                         had to film
                                         
                                         their love scenes
                                         
    
                                         for Twilight
                                         
                                         and they had
                                         
                                         to retake
                                         
                                         because they
                                         
                                         started doing
                                         
                                         stuff for real
                                         
                                         and it was
                                         
                                         too steamy
                                         
    
                                         for a PG-13.
                                         
                                         Hot and heavy.
                                         
                                         What's her name again?
                                         
                                         Kristen Stewart.
                                         
                                         Yeah, if I have my lesbian.
                                         
                                         She's kind of, she's turning something inside me.
                                         
                                         Back to Belle.
                                         
                                         Back to Belle.
                                         
    
                                         Belle.
                                         
                                         See, I'd be interested to know where Belle's parents are.
                                         
                                         Like, how did they let that go so far?
                                         
                                         I'm sure you'd see.
                                         
                                         Her stepfather did come out
                                         
                                         and he said it was
                                         
                                         because she did a 60 Minutes
                                         
                                         Australia interview
                                         
    
                                         and it was really hard to watch
                                         
                                         like it was like
                                         
                                         it was just so embarrassing
                                         
                                         because she just didn't have
                                         
                                         a leg to stand on
                                         
                                         and
                                         
                                         Was she trying
                                         
                                         was that when she was trying
                                         
    
                                         to like get people to forgive her?
                                         
                                         She was trying to justify it
                                         
                                         by saying
                                         
                                         they were like
                                         
                                         do you have cancer?
                                         
                                         And she's like
                                         
                                         well I was led to believe
                                         
                                         that I do
                                         
    
                                         They're like do you have any paperwork to prove like she just well, I was led to believe that I do. They're like, do you have
                                         
                                         any paperwork to prove? Like, she just
                                         
                                         didn't have a leg to stand on, but apparently she was paid 75
                                         
                                         grand to do the interview, which she then obviously
                                         
                                         took off to Ethiopia.
                                         
                                         I'm sorry, but like, I've told you
                                         
                                         about Neil Wilson. Neil Wilson's my stepdad.
                                         
                                         Like, how did her parents not do anything?
                                         
    
                                         Neil had us under, like, a
                                         
                                         tight leash. We used to have
                                         
                                         phones in our bedroom. I was telling Joanna this story, and she's like, that's not true. This is a leash we used to have phones in our bedroom i was telling
                                         
                                         joanne this story and she's like that's not true this is a true story we had phones in our bedroom
                                         
                                         and at seven o'clock on a saturday and sunday morning we'd wake up amber stairs vogue kitchen
                                         
                                         frederick cars and we'd all have to go out frederick would clean the cars i'd clean the
                                         
                                         kitchen and we'll clean the stairs and then he'd go alexander you're my favorite child nothing that was his own real child um but yeah we just got like neil would never like imagine i let t
                                         
                                         go out and tell everyone he had like a disease and just try and make money off not not all not
                                         
    
                                         all parenting not all parenting is the same like Like, her father was dead.
                                         
                                         Her mother... Hello.
                                         
                                         Hello.
                                         
                                         Was absent.
                                         
                                         I know.
                                         
                                         I know.
                                         
                                         Sandra.
                                         
                                         Sandra only cares about Sandra.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I don't know.
                                         
                                         I didn't turn out like Belle.
                                         
                                         I don't know.
                                         
                                         I don't know.
                                         
                                         I can't.
                                         
                                         I don't know.
                                         
                                         You're luckier as normal as you are.
                                         
    
                                         I get told that often. That you're luckier as normal as you are. I get told that often.
                                         
                                         That you're luckier as normal as you are.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         You know the way I tried to start a new part on the pod?
                                         
                                         And because you're 41 now and you complain,
                                         
                                         you'll have to find something.
                                         
                                         I was going to do that every week.
                                         
                                         I was going to do that every week.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         So about things that annoy me in the week.
                                         
                                         Now hear me out, right?
                                         
                                         This has annoyed me.
                                         
                                         The Daily Mail, I was trying not to be addicted to it,
                                         
                                         so I didn't want to download the app.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         So I was only looking at the Daily Mail on Safari,
                                         
    
                                         and then they made it really difficult to try and look at it on Safari.
                                         
                                         It wasn't accessible to me, and I couldn't get my daily gossip.
                                         
                                         So now I've had to download the Daily Mail app,
                                         
                                         and I'm not happy about it,
                                         
                                         and I also see that they're charging a subscription for some stories that I want to read and I'm
                                         
                                         not paying the subscription. Okay. So that's what I'm annoyed about this week. You? Well,
                                         
                                         it's like, you need Ritalin or something. You were like wired today. Will I give you
                                         
                                         my other thing that annoyed me this week? Sure. Why not?
                                         
    
                                         Do you know when you get an orange and you're like... I'm glad I could come up today and just receive your information.
                                         
                                         You know when you get an orange and you're like,
                                         
                                         oh, I'd love that orange, but I couldn't be arsed peeling it.
                                         
                                         And then you're like, fuck it, I'm going to go down the road.
                                         
                                         I'm going to peel the orange, even though I don't want to.
                                         
                                         So you peel the orange and then you taste it for a segment.
                                         
                                         It's like...
                                         
                                         And then you have to throw it out
                                         
    
                                         because it's so rotten.
                                         
                                         I don't know if we're going to keep this
                                         
                                         segment, folk. I'm not going to lie.
                                         
                                         I don't know. I would like to make this a
                                         
                                         listener segment. Mail in on everything
                                         
                                         that pisses you off, please. Thank you.
                                         
                                         That's a fun idea.
                                         
                                         Listeners could mail in and tell us what's pissed them off.
                                         
    
                                         Now, nothing real serious, by the way.
                                         
                                         I'm not complaining. We don't want to know anything
                                         
                                         about the government
                                         
                                         or anything like that.
                                         
                                         Like, just like,
                                         
                                         lighthearted things like oranges.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         Nothing too serious.
                                         
                                         We're very much into lightness
                                         
                                         on this podcast.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Very light.
                                         
                                         What's the worst fruit?
                                         
                                         Yeah, that kind of thing.
                                         
                                         What's the worst fruit?
                                         
    
                                         Papaya stinks.
                                         
                                         Well, that's it.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         Thank you very much
                                         
                                         for listening.
                                         
                                         I'm glad I got that
                                         
                                         off my chest.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
    
                                         I'm glad I got that
                                         
                                         off my literal chest.
                                         
                                         No breasts there at all.
                                         
                                         We'll have to put up
                                         
                                         the Magic Mike picture.
                                         
                                         Showed me,
                                         
                                         I just want to see it.
                                         
                                         Well, I deleted some that were just, and I had to to see it Well I deleted some
                                         
    
                                         that were just
                                         
                                         and I had to delete
                                         
                                         the selfie
                                         
                                         I think they were bad
                                         
                                         I think I remember
                                         
                                         thinking they were really bad
                                         
                                         I had to delete the selfie
                                         
                                         because I actually
                                         
    
                                         couldn't keep looking at it
                                         
                                         because it was too embarrassing
                                         
                                         Too bad yeah
                                         
                                         Oh yeah
                                         
                                         it's not our best
                                         
                                         That's it for this week
                                         
                                         Have a great weekend
                                         
                                         and we'll see you next Wednesday
                                         
    
                                         See you next Wednesday
                                         
