My Therapist Ghosted Me - MTGM EXTRA! "Have I wasted my twenties?"
Episode Date: February 21, 2024In the last extra instalment before a 2 week break, Vogue has big BAFTA updates after an evening on the red carpet and Joanne has news on her sofa... And it's not good news...If you’d like to get in... touch, you can send an email to hello@MTGMpod.comPlease review Global's Privacy Policy: https://global.com/legal/privacy-policy/For merch, tour dates and more visit: www.mytherapistghostedme.com/For more information about Joanne's gigs, just visit www.joannemcnally.comThis episode contains explicit language and adult themes that may not be suitable for all listeners.Thank you!
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                                         Welcome to My Therapist Ghosted Me with me, Joanne McNally and Queen of the Red Carpet,
                                         
                                         Vogue Williams.
                                         
                                         Vogue was at, yeah?
                                         
                                         Coming live from, well her house now, but was at the BAFTAs yesterday.
                                         
                                         Did I mention I was at the BAFTAs yesterday?
                                         
                                         At the film BAFTAs as well,
                                         
                                         like the really important ones.
                                         
    
                                         Did I mention I was there?
                                         
                                         No, and I didn't even know you were going
                                         
                                         until I saw on Insta you were fucking dolled up
                                         
                                         like a dog stainer in a lift.
                                         
                                         I know.
                                         
                                         Well, I don't...
                                         
                                         She had that under her sleeves.
                                         
                                         I'm not going to spread rumours,
                                         
    
                                         but I think Bradley Cooper fancies me.
                                         
                                         Oh, straight in.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         Go on.
                                         
                                         So I was hosting for Ladbible.
                                         
                                         So you're kind of shouting at famous people, trying to get them to come over and talk to you.
                                         
                                         And I shouted at Bradley Cooper and I said, hey, Bradley, it's Ladbible Ireland.
                                         
                                         Looked at me directly in the eyes.
                                         
    
                                         He didn't say a word or come over, but he looked at me in the eyes.
                                         
                                         So we had a connection.
                                         
                                         He saw me so shouting
                                         
                                         and it's very clear to me
                                         
                                         that that man has game
                                         
                                         so I'd say
                                         
                                         and he likes
                                         
                                         he likes them tall
                                         
    
                                         and blonde
                                         
                                         he's big into models
                                         
                                         I know yeah
                                         
                                         and he's just
                                         
                                         playing it cool
                                         
                                         I know he'll be back
                                         
                                         I know he'll be back
                                         
                                         I started playing
                                         
    
                                         a scenario in my head
                                         
                                         last night
                                         
                                         I was like
                                         
                                         imagine I saw him in New York
                                         
                                         and I just pretended to fall
                                         
                                         or something.
                                         
                                         He had to pick me up
                                         
                                         from my fall
                                         
    
                                         and then we got together.
                                         
                                         That's what I was thinking.
                                         
                                         Not that,
                                         
                                         I don't mean to interrupt your fantasy,
                                         
                                         but is he,
                                         
                                         is he with Gigi Hadid now?
                                         
                                         Is that true?
                                         
                                         Okay,
                                         
    
                                         do you want,
                                         
                                         like you just don't need,
                                         
                                         that's like stabbing me in the heart.
                                         
                                         I don't mean,
                                         
                                         I don't think that,
                                         
                                         I don't think that would ruin your chances.
                                         
                                         I'm just saying. I mean, you could that would ruin your chances. I'm just saying.
                                         
                                         I mean,
                                         
    
                                         you could,
                                         
                                         you could take her.
                                         
                                         I'm just saying it just came to mind.
                                         
                                         Are they together now?
                                         
                                         I believe that they are.
                                         
                                         I think they are together.
                                         
                                         But he did look me directly in the eye,
                                         
                                         as I told you.
                                         
    
                                         So they might've broken up since the last time they were photographed together
                                         
                                         because he definitely had a lot of interest in me for that.
                                         
                                         Well,
                                         
                                         point one of a second that he looked.
                                         
                                         Eye contact from Bradley
                                         
                                         Cooper. Better do an STI test.
                                         
                                         You wouldn't know what to get off.
                                         
                                         I've actually updated the old Instagram
                                         
    
                                         bio. Bradley Cooper made eye contact
                                         
                                         with me.
                                         
                                         Hoping for a physical collab with
                                         
                                         Oh, what happened there? Joe, I'm going to need
                                         
                                         new headphones.
                                         
                                         You can tell we're coming to the end of another
                                         
                                         series. Folks, headphones have just
                                         
                                         fallen apart
                                         
    
                                         and my mic stand
                                         
                                         is completely impotent.
                                         
                                         It's done quite badly.
                                         
                                         Falling down.
                                         
                                         It's really gotten
                                         
                                         bad, that thing.
                                         
                                         No, Bradley Cooper,
                                         
                                         like the funny thing
                                         
    
                                         is when you're at the
                                         
                                         Baptist,
                                         
                                         when you're doing
                                         
                                         something like that,
                                         
                                         you're trying to get
                                         
                                         people to talk to you.
                                         
                                         Most people don't
                                         
                                         want to talk to you
                                         
    
                                         at all,
                                         
                                         which kind of
                                         
                                         confuses me because
                                         
                                         I thought you're there to kind of confuses me because I thought
                                         
                                         you're there to kind of promote things but I get it like you couldn't be honest um and Bradley
                                         
                                         didn't speak to anyone but he just waltzed around the red carpet looking he like he is gorgeous in
                                         
                                         real life he's really tall really handsome and I didn't actually even like his outfit and I could
                                         
                                         see past the outfit and what was he wearing? He was wearing a strange looking coat.
                                         
    
                                         I don't know.
                                         
                                         I don't know.
                                         
                                         He looks like, I don't know.
                                         
                                         He didn't look great.
                                         
                                         He looked like a colonel or something.
                                         
                                         Killian Murphy, as you can imagine, he did, I've never seen someone sprint so quickly
                                         
                                         through the press area.
                                         
                                         He doesn't stop.
                                         
    
                                         He doesn't stop.
                                         
                                         Well, Killian is, he's infamous, isn't he?
                                         
                                         Like for avoiding all sorts of conversation,
                                         
                                         press, media, anything that
                                         
                                         he is contractually obliged to do.
                                         
                                         And even the stuff he is contractually obliged to do,
                                         
                                         he never looks like he wants to do it.
                                         
                                         He always looks like someone has a knife in his back
                                         
    
                                         or a gun to his head.
                                         
                                         My opening question was going to be,
                                         
                                         Cillian, how excited are you to leave here?
                                         
                                         Because he just like doesn't,
                                         
                                         he won though't he won though
                                         
                                         he won best actor
                                         
                                         and he's
                                         
                                         like he is
                                         
    
                                         like his eyes
                                         
                                         are so
                                         
                                         they're like clear blue
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         who else
                                         
                                         I wrote some stuff down
                                         
                                         for you because I knew
                                         
                                         that you'd be interested
                                         
    
                                         Cillian Murphy
                                         
                                         I saw Cillian Murphy
                                         
                                         did a lovely
                                         
                                         spread
                                         
                                         as they say
                                         
                                         somewhere recently
                                         
                                         and it was very
                                         
                                         it was very
                                         
    
                                         it was very sexy and of the now.
                                         
                                         And I said, that man's,
                                         
                                         that man's scrapping back against the young ones.
                                         
                                         I can, I can feel it.
                                         
                                         And Killian's like,
                                         
                                         the little pups are coming up as hell.
                                         
                                         And he's like, no, no, no, no, no.
                                         
                                         No, I'll tell you who too.
                                         
    
                                         I'm King Killian.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Silky shirts.
                                         
                                         It was all very kind of Riverdance meets Matrix.
                                         
                                         I liked it.
                                         
                                         It was a good look.
                                         
                                         He looks great.
                                         
                                         I think he's super cool
                                         
    
                                         and super chill.
                                         
                                         Barry Keoghan
                                         
                                         didn't see him.
                                         
                                         He didn't really come
                                         
                                         and talk to anyone.
                                         
                                         Barry Barry.
                                         
                                         Very Barry.
                                         
                                         That's how we'd imagine
                                         
    
                                         Barry would be.
                                         
                                         I was raging
                                         
                                         because I brought him
                                         
                                         a bottle of Bear by Vogue
                                         
                                         because I know
                                         
                                         he's been tanning lately.
                                         
                                         I don't think you have
                                         
                                         a colour dark enough
                                         
    
                                         for Barry.
                                         
                                         Certainly not since they discontinued DHA.
                                         
                                         We can't go that dark.
                                         
                                         Barry, I've got a sunbed in the boot.
                                         
                                         Do you want it?
                                         
                                         We've got ultra, ultra, ultra dark.
                                         
                                         We've made a bespoke tan.
                                         
                                         That's actually against the law.
                                         
    
                                         It's so dark.
                                         
                                         He just uses all the other brands and that's why he looks so ridiculous. That's why I was going. It's so dark. He just uses all the other brands
                                         
                                         and that's why he looks so ridiculous.
                                         
                                         That's why I was going to bring him
                                         
                                         some real tan, you know?
                                         
                                         Yeah, you're like,
                                         
                                         it's streaky, babe.
                                         
                                         That's a contrapeu.
                                         
    
                                         Oh, two more people
                                         
                                         I'll tell you about.
                                         
                                         Marcus Mumford, right?
                                         
                                         I don't even know if you know him.
                                         
                                         Mumford and Sons.
                                         
                                         I know the name.
                                         
                                         I'm going to need you to Google him.
                                         
                                         He has had, right?
                                         
    
                                         So the girl that I was
                                         
                                         working with
                                         
                                         I was like
                                         
                                         that's Marcus Mumford
                                         
                                         like because
                                         
                                         Carrie Mulligan
                                         
                                         was there
                                         
                                         and I was like
                                         
    
                                         that's her husband
                                         
                                         and she was like
                                         
                                         no it's not
                                         
                                         and she googled him
                                         
                                         she was like
                                         
                                         that's definitely
                                         
                                         not him
                                         
                                         and I was like
                                         
    
                                         he has had
                                         
                                         the biggest glow up
                                         
                                         in the whole world
                                         
                                         that's him
                                         
                                         and we couldn't
                                         
                                         believe it
                                         
                                         he looked
                                         
                                         like the hottest
                                         
    
                                         man
                                         
                                         you want me to
                                         
                                         google it now
                                         
                                         you will I don't think you'll see
                                         
                                         the new him google him at the Baptist
                                         
                                         wait to see how hot he's gone
                                         
                                         I see this guy now
                                         
                                         yeah I mean
                                         
    
                                         I don't need a before and after
                                         
                                         gorgeous gorgeous
                                         
                                         man yeah kind of
                                         
                                         I like his glasses kind of looks like Robert
                                         
                                         Downey Jr she looks fab yeah
                                         
                                         yeah we're into them
                                         
                                         last person
                                         
                                         I spoke to
                                         
    
                                         and she asked me
                                         
                                         questions too
                                         
                                         Naomi Campbell
                                         
                                         Naomi Campbell
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         actually quite
                                         
                                         she was quite nice
                                         
                                         she spoke to
                                         
    
                                         kind of everyone
                                         
                                         she wasn't like
                                         
                                         running away
                                         
                                         and I heard someone else
                                         
                                         asking a question
                                         
                                         they were like
                                         
                                         oh how is it to like
                                         
                                         meet all these famous people
                                         
    
                                         and she's like
                                         
                                         they're not famous people to me
                                         
                                         they're just my
                                         
                                         friends
                                         
                                         very Naomi
                                         
                                         I was like wow
                                         
                                         tell me more Naomi
                                         
                                         and even she was like
                                         
    
                                         because someone was like
                                         
                                         I asked her what her
                                         
                                         morning routine was
                                         
                                         and she was like
                                         
                                         well you know how crazy
                                         
                                         my travel routine is
                                         
                                         and I was like
                                         
                                         I love you for that
                                         
    
                                         like she travels so much
                                         
                                         or she was saying
                                         
                                         her routine is crazy oh her routine did you not see her like, I love you for that. Like she travels so much or she was saying her routine is crazy.
                                         
                                         Oh, her routine.
                                         
                                         Did you not see her
                                         
                                         in the hazmat suit
                                         
                                         and everything like during COVID
                                         
                                         and like she was going
                                         
    
                                         and spraying everything down.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         She strikes me as a germaphobe.
                                         
                                         But also in fairness to Naomi,
                                         
                                         she has been humbled.
                                         
                                         I mean,
                                         
                                         she's done a lot of community service
                                         
                                         over the years
                                         
    
                                         for various tantrums
                                         
                                         that she's had,
                                         
                                         hasn't she?
                                         
                                         I'd actually love to know how much community service, at least she went and did it. I'm sure she wouldn't have paid someone else to do it that she's had, hasn't she? I'd actually love to know
                                         
                                         how much community service,
                                         
                                         at least she went and did it.
                                         
                                         I'm sure she wouldn't have paid
                                         
                                         someone else to do it
                                         
    
                                         if she could have,
                                         
                                         but she could have.
                                         
                                         Do you remember she turned up
                                         
                                         in like a Savorsky gown
                                         
                                         for one of the community services
                                         
                                         was picking up rubbish or something
                                         
                                         and she turned,
                                         
                                         she was wearing a high-vis vest
                                         
    
                                         over this like floor-length ball gown.
                                         
                                         I love her.
                                         
                                         Like, I think she's
                                         
                                         absolutely brilliant
                                         
                                         well
                                         
                                         I wouldn't want to be her assistant
                                         
                                         no
                                         
                                         not unless you like
                                         
    
                                         getting a phone to the head
                                         
                                         that's it
                                         
                                         like one of my friends
                                         
                                         at the weekend
                                         
                                         was saying
                                         
                                         she's like my child
                                         
                                         Naomi to me at the weekend
                                         
                                         and I was like what
                                         
    
                                         and her child
                                         
                                         threw her phone
                                         
                                         at her face
                                         
                                         her child is one
                                         
                                         threw her phone
                                         
                                         right at her face
                                         
                                         she's got a welt under her eye
                                         
                                         oh god
                                         
    
                                         I know
                                         
                                         and I was like
                                         
                                         one I didn't even know
                                         
                                         they'd have the arm
                                         
                                         power at that stage
                                         
                                         they kind of do
                                         
                                         they can be quite violent
                                         
                                         I remember T
                                         
    
                                         used to like slam
                                         
                                         his head back into you
                                         
                                         and once he gave me
                                         
                                         this massive nosebleed
                                         
                                         I thought he'd broken
                                         
                                         my nose
                                         
                                         Jesus
                                         
                                         and so yes
                                         
    
                                         a good day was had
                                         
                                         it sounds lovely
                                         
                                         and you looked gorgeous
                                         
                                         thank you very much now there were some ourselves on the carpet but I'm not going to So yes, a good day was had. It sounds lovely. And you looked gorgeous.
                                         
                                         Thank you very much.
                                         
                                         Now, there were some arseholes on the carpet,
                                         
                                         but I'm not going to mention them by name.
                                         
                                         Tell me now and then we can just beep them out.
                                         
    
                                         No, you already know who it is.
                                         
                                         I told you the second I left the carpet.
                                         
                                         Oh, sorry about that one.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
                                         
                                         Oh, there'll be karma there now.
                                         
                                         It's funny though.
                                         
                                         It's the least famous people that are not as nice. Do you know
                                         
                                         why though? This is my theory. We
                                         
    
                                         discussed this last night because
                                         
                                         they know they're not really supposed to
                                         
                                         be there. So I think the most dangerous
                                         
                                         people in the world are people with
                                         
                                         a very
                                         
                                         very, what would you say? Huge
                                         
                                         ego, low self-esteem.
                                         
                                         They think they want to
                                         
    
                                         look like they belong in these rooms but they
                                         
                                         obviously aren't secure enough to feel like they do so they act like a dick basically everyone's
                                         
                                         just projecting I know but you know what I like I wouldn't even did I belong in that room probably
                                         
                                         not did I care no I was absolutely thrilled to be there that being able to golem and stuff I was
                                         
                                         talking to golem you were there doing a job that's a different pose do you know what I mean you're I'd much You were there doing a job. That's a different buzz. Do you know what I mean?
                                         
                                         I'd much rather be there doing a job
                                         
                                         because you're not standing around like a plank. You're like,
                                         
                                         I'm here to do a job. I was standing around
                                         
    
                                         like a plank last year and I was thrilled.
                                         
                                         Remember?
                                         
                                         Oh yeah. I loved being
                                         
                                         a plank. It was great.
                                         
                                         Well look, whatever you do is right in my eyes.
                                         
                                         You can be a plank
                                         
                                         or you can do a job, whatever.
                                         
                                         Yeah, whatever.
                                         
    
                                         You look great.
                                         
                                         You had a really good time.
                                         
                                         Vote for president.
                                         
                                         You'll be in the White House next.
                                         
                                         You can be president.
                                         
                                         I'd rather be vice president.
                                         
                                         No, actually, I'll be president because the president doesn't do anything.
                                         
                                         You can be vice president who actually does stuff.
                                         
    
                                         Yes, I'm just the face of an organisation
                                         
                                         exactly yeah
                                         
                                         once I have to be up
                                         
                                         at this ungodly hour what time is it now
                                         
                                         it's still 9am
                                         
                                         what time do you wake
                                         
                                         up at honestly naturally
                                         
                                         I keep saying I work nights but sure I haven't
                                         
    
                                         done anything in three
                                         
                                         I haven't stood on stage in a month but I keep
                                         
                                         saying I work nights but like if I have to
                                         
                                         if I have to do a job at 9am
                                         
                                         all night
                                         
                                         all the day before
                                         
                                         and all night
                                         
                                         I'm like oh my god
                                         
    
                                         I have to go to bed
                                         
                                         I was in bed last night
                                         
                                         at 9 o'clock
                                         
                                         and I obviously stayed up till 12
                                         
                                         but I panic
                                         
                                         I don't know why
                                         
                                         it's like it's weird
                                         
                                         I've just
                                         
    
                                         I've broken
                                         
                                         it's like when you're young
                                         
                                         or if you're in an office job
                                         
                                         or you're in a 9 to 5 job
                                         
                                         you're just body clock
                                         
                                         just adjusting
                                         
                                         you just get used to
                                         
                                         always get waking up
                                         
    
                                         I've been out of that clock
                                         
                                         for so long
                                         
                                         that 9am to me
                                         
                                         is like it's barbaric
                                         
                                         it's like
                                         
                                         it's yeah
                                         
                                         it's like the fear I get
                                         
                                         if I go
                                         
    
                                         like if it's 11 o'clock
                                         
                                         and I haven't gotten into bed
                                         
                                         I'm like oh Jesus
                                         
                                         my whole
                                         
                                         my week is off kilter
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         I'll never catch up
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
    
                                         but like I
                                         
                                         my alarm went off
                                         
                                         at 8.50
                                         
                                         and I was like
                                         
                                         ahhh
                                         
                                         she wakes herself
                                         
                                         at 8.20
                                         
                                         and then I snoozed again
                                         
    
                                         but you didn't really snooze
                                         
                                         it's pointless
                                         
                                         doing the 10 minute snooze
                                         
                                         you're not going to get
                                         
                                         anything extra from that
                                         
                                         tell my eyes
                                         
                                         tell my eyes
                                         
                                         because they shut
                                         
    
                                         right back down
                                         
                                         like it's bizarre
                                         
                                         I yesterday took myself out
                                         
                                         out on those days where I woke up I went to the gym yeah and I left honestly
                                         
                                         eight minutes in do you know when you're like I don't know if this has ever happened to you
                                         
                                         but you go and you're like not it's not today today's just not the day it's just not the day
                                         
                                         it's a hundred percent
                                         
                                         and like
                                         
    
                                         that means your body
                                         
                                         is just saying to you
                                         
                                         no do you know what
                                         
                                         I need to have a rest
                                         
                                         you need to have a rest
                                         
                                         you need to rest
                                         
                                         again
                                         
                                         rest more
                                         
    
                                         go back to bed
                                         
                                         well while you were
                                         
                                         at the BAFTAs
                                         
                                         I went on a terrible date
                                         
                                         what
                                         
                                         yeah it wasn't my own
                                         
                                         I was sat beside
                                         
                                         a couple
                                         
    
                                         who were having
                                         
                                         one of the worst dates
                                         
                                         I've ever heard
                                         
                                         and I had to listen to it
                                         
                                         and it was so shit
                                         
                                         I asked to leave early
                                         
                                         oh god
                                         
                                         I honestly
                                         
    
                                         I was kind of engrossed
                                         
                                         at the start
                                         
                                         the date was so shit
                                         
                                         I was like
                                         
                                         I'm leaving
                                         
                                         I'm walking out of this date
                                         
                                         it's so shit
                                         
                                         I wanted to go up to them
                                         
    
                                         and be like
                                         
                                         guys there's no spark here
                                         
                                         like we need to wrap this up
                                         
                                         don't waste your time
                                         
                                         he was talking about his macros it was
                                         
                                         like an interview and he's like and what kind of food do you eat during the week would you be do
                                         
                                         you eat healthy or oh stop yeah and then he kind of slyly admitted admitted that he'd been married
                                         
                                         and she was like what he's like yeah i just i thought it was something better to tell face
                                         
    
                                         to face we split last year and he's talking about he's giving up the drink and i just it was and i'm
                                         
                                         not saying just because he's giving up the drink but honestly I was like I wanted to kind of
                                         
                                         say to her run
                                         
                                         this is
                                         
                                         the shittest date
                                         
                                         I've ever been on
                                         
                                         and I've been on some shit dates
                                         
                                         you can't throw in
                                         
    
                                         an old marriage
                                         
                                         and giving up the drink
                                         
                                         at the same time
                                         
                                         it's far too much
                                         
                                         it's too much
                                         
                                         to take on board
                                         
                                         and I thought it was on him
                                         
                                         because I was like
                                         
    
                                         I felt
                                         
                                         obviously I
                                         
                                         have a natural allegiance to her
                                         
                                         and I was like
                                         
                                         he's really
                                         
                                         this is a really shit date
                                         
                                         He's bringing nothing to the table
                                         
                                         But then I'm sorry now
                                         
    
                                         To the sisterhood
                                         
                                         But she started talking
                                         
                                         I was like
                                         
                                         Jesus Christ
                                         
                                         She's no better
                                         
                                         What was she saying?
                                         
                                         Well I eat a lot of blueberries
                                         
                                         They're good for mental health
                                         
    
                                         I was like
                                         
                                         Okay I'm out of here
                                         
                                         Good luck
                                         
                                         Oh Christ
                                         
                                         I don't think I'd last five minutes
                                         
                                         In the dating scene these days
                                         
                                         Honestly
                                         
                                         I think you'd do okay
                                         
    
                                         I find people too annoying
                                         
                                         To be honest Honestly I just would be okay I find people too annoying to be honest
                                         
                                         honestly I just would be like no if someone started talking to me about macros or something
                                         
                                         I just I couldn't I find that level of conversation so dull and there are so many dull people oh my
                                         
                                         god I was like I'm I'm gonna need some smelling salts to keep me going for this date it was so
                                         
                                         shit and obviously I wanted to hear and I was hoping it would pick up
                                         
                                         but I've just never seen
                                         
                                         such a
                                         
    
                                         it was just asking
                                         
                                         each other questions
                                         
                                         there was
                                         
                                         I guess that's kind of
                                         
                                         what dating is
                                         
                                         it is like an interview
                                         
                                         really
                                         
                                         but there was certainly
                                         
    
                                         no spark
                                         
                                         or rapport
                                         
                                         that I felt
                                         
                                         it was like a job interview
                                         
                                         but it was
                                         
                                         I don't know what the job
                                         
                                         the job to be
                                         
                                         his girlfriend
                                         
    
                                         and it's a role
                                         
                                         that nobody wants
                                         
                                         I wouldn't like I wouldn't be able to
                                         
                                         go on a traditional date like that like I know it sounds really immature but I'd need to go out and
                                         
                                         get like pretty pissed and try like because even people that I've gone on date dates with I'm like
                                         
                                         I've and I've been on actually very few dates because obviously I've been married most of my
                                         
                                         life um and so like the dates that I have been on they've started sober but thankfully
                                         
                                         they didn't end sober
                                         
    
                                         because some of the people
                                         
                                         were such dopes
                                         
                                         that I just would have been like
                                         
                                         oh my god
                                         
                                         stop talking
                                         
                                         I think if you're doing
                                         
                                         a lot of dating
                                         
                                         it turns into
                                         
    
                                         you kind of just start doing
                                         
                                         the quick coffee goes
                                         
                                         because
                                         
                                         you don't want to give
                                         
                                         a night out to
                                         
                                         all of them
                                         
                                         you know
                                         
                                         and it's easier to do like i have friends who
                                         
    
                                         were dating loads at the time and they just were like i'll meet you for coffee i'll meet you for
                                         
                                         coffee and they basically just did a drive by and they'd meet them for a coffee and if there was
                                         
                                         anything going then they'd meet them for maybe a longer dinner or whatever but like you can't go
                                         
                                         out with them all because it's actually it's too expensive as well i know somebody who just
                                         
                                         resorted to going for walks in the park because he was like,
                                         
                                         it's costing me too much money
                                         
                                         to go on all these dates
                                         
                                         that aren't working out.
                                         
    
                                         I know.
                                         
                                         And there's all the etiquette around it.
                                         
                                         There was a girl posting
                                         
                                         at the weekend about
                                         
                                         she went on a date with,
                                         
                                         it's an Irish girl,
                                         
                                         went on a date with an Irish guy
                                         
                                         and she said it was shit
                                         
    
                                         but he insisted on paying.
                                         
                                         She said she'd meet him again
                                         
                                         and then when he texted her,
                                         
                                         she was working
                                         
                                         so she didn't get back straight away.
                                         
                                         And then within an hour or two,
                                         
                                         he'd sent her a request on Revolut
                                         
                                         for 80 euro to cover her part.
                                         
    
                                         Because he said,
                                         
                                         you clearly don't intend to see me again,
                                         
                                         so I'd like to be picked.
                                         
                                         Oh my God.
                                         
                                         Oh, I met a girl who listens to the pod yesterday
                                         
                                         because I meet people like that
                                         
                                         and she came up to me
                                         
                                         and she goes
                                         
    
                                         Vogue well done
                                         
                                         and I was like
                                         
                                         what?
                                         
                                         and she's like
                                         
                                         you've gotten much funnier
                                         
                                         in the last two years
                                         
                                         well done
                                         
                                         when you tell a joke
                                         
    
                                         I'm like go on Vogue
                                         
                                         well done Vogue
                                         
                                         good job Vogue
                                         
                                         you're like
                                         
                                         thank you so much
                                         
                                         I was like thank you
                                         
                                         I have been practicing
                                         
                                         my funny
                                         
    
                                         for your
                                         
                                         for your
                                         
                                         kind of
                                         
                                         well-meaned
                                         
                                         patronising support
                                         
                                         which is
                                         
                                         how you describe that
                                         
                                         I took it as a compliment
                                         
    
                                         of course
                                         
                                         I fucking take it
                                         
                                         I love when people
                                         
                                         tell me shit like that
                                         
                                         I'm like thank you so much
                                         
                                         I met a girl
                                         
                                         on
                                         
                                         when was it
                                         
    
                                         last week
                                         
                                         as I was
                                         
                                         trotting
                                         
                                         through clapping with my harness
                                         
                                         and
                                         
                                         I had the headphones
                                         
                                         on full blast, of course.
                                         
                                         And you know the way
                                         
    
                                         I'm very jumpy anyway
                                         
                                         because I have
                                         
                                         an overactive fascia.
                                         
                                         And she stopped me
                                         
                                         and she's like,
                                         
                                         Joanne,
                                         
                                         and I nearly jumped,
                                         
                                         I nearly went through the window
                                         
    
                                         of a flower shop.
                                         
                                         I was like,
                                         
                                         ah!
                                         
                                         And she goes,
                                         
                                         oh my God,
                                         
                                         I've been waiting to see you
                                         
                                         and clap them in your harness. I was like, my god I've been waiting to see you in Clapham
                                         
                                         in your harness
                                         
    
                                         I was like
                                         
                                         thank you so much
                                         
                                         I'll pass that on
                                         
                                         I've been waiting
                                         
                                         to see you in Clapham
                                         
                                         in your harness
                                         
                                         I can't wait to see you
                                         
                                         in said harness
                                         
    
                                         you'll see me
                                         
                                         I did see it
                                         
                                         on the stories
                                         
                                         and to say I got the ick
                                         
                                         is an understatement
                                         
                                         we might have to
                                         
                                         bring back the icks
                                         
                                         front page
                                         
    
                                         of the Clapham Gazette
                                         
                                         I'll be there I'm waiting till you get the water bottle that you put your hand through when you have the bring back the icks. Front page of the Clapham Gazette. I'll be there.
                                         
                                         I'm waiting till you get the water bottle
                                         
                                         that you put your hand through
                                         
                                         when you have the harness and the water bottle
                                         
                                         and the leg weights will be back on.
                                         
                                         I won't need to put a hand through my water bottle
                                         
                                         because the water bottle goes in the harness, Vogue.
                                         
    
                                         Educate yourself.
                                         
                                         Do better.
                                         
                                         Well, I'm just glad you're not going to get dehydrated
                                         
                                         on your 15 minute run.
                                         
                                         15's a stretch now to be honest
                                         
                                         three minute bursts
                                         
                                         this fucking couch
                                         
                                         ah listen
                                         
    
                                         I like
                                         
                                         it stresses me the fuck out
                                         
                                         did you send it back
                                         
                                         I got a call
                                         
                                         it's at no point
                                         
                                         sending it back at this stage
                                         
                                         I got a call
                                         
                                         to say
                                         
    
                                         that it's delivered
                                         
                                         it'll be delivered
                                         
                                         this week curbside
                                         
                                         which means
                                         
                                         they just
                                         
                                         they just
                                         
                                         basically
                                         
                                         the van slows down
                                         
    
                                         as it passes your house
                                         
                                         and they just
                                         
                                         throw it out
                                         
                                         on the side of the road
                                         
                                         and the van simply leaves
                                         
                                         and it's still in the pallets
                                         
                                         and it's a module couch
                                         
                                         so six separate pieces
                                         
    
                                         and I was there
                                         
                                         to your one
                                         
                                         and she's like look I know it's not.
                                         
                                         This is just all we do.
                                         
                                         We just have the contract.
                                         
                                         It's not up to us.
                                         
                                         It's the company themselves.
                                         
                                         They're called Vetsac.
                                         
    
                                         If I can strongly recommend no one buy anything from them.
                                         
                                         They've been a joke.
                                         
                                         They've never applied to a single email that I've sent them several emails questioning like delivery times.
                                         
                                         Oh my God.
                                         
                                         I'd send it back
                                         
                                         you're mad not to send it back
                                         
                                         I can't even return
                                         
                                         a 20 quid dress
                                         
    
                                         I'm certainly not going to manage
                                         
                                         to return
                                         
                                         seven or six pallets
                                         
                                         to Germany
                                         
                                         oh god
                                         
                                         it's never going to happen
                                         
                                         and then I
                                         
                                         I DM'd them then
                                         
    
                                         asking them a question
                                         
                                         about the couch
                                         
                                         because I bought it off Insta
                                         
                                         never looked at it
                                         
                                         never replied
                                         
                                         like it's the worst
                                         
                                         it's so fucking bad
                                         
                                         I can't
                                         
    
                                         and it like as I say it's it was a. It's so fucking bad. I can't,
                                         
                                         like as I say,
                                         
                                         it's,
                                         
                                         it was a,
                                         
                                         it was a big purchase for me.
                                         
                                         This isn't like a cheap purchase.
                                         
                                         You know,
                                         
                                         this is a very big purchase.
                                         
    
                                         It's actually probably the most expensive thing I bought for the flat.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         Well,
                                         
                                         I'm just going to get a reply from them. And then they tell me that the delivery is curbside.
                                         
                                         And you're ones like,
                                         
                                         they should tell you that themselves,
                                         
                                         but they don't.
                                         
                                         But so it's up to us to tell you
                                         
    
                                         we're a freight company
                                         
                                         we're not a delivery company
                                         
                                         if I was you
                                         
                                         I would honestly
                                         
                                         I'd send it back
                                         
                                         I think you're mad
                                         
                                         not to send it back
                                         
                                         it's too much money
                                         
    
                                         they're not even sending it to you
                                         
                                         you have to pay all that import fees
                                         
                                         you must be fucking crazy
                                         
                                         but the
                                         
                                         VAT
                                         
                                         you have to pay VAT
                                         
                                         once it hits the ground
                                         
                                         it's your job to pay VAT on it
                                         
    
                                         there's no
                                         
                                         the VAT's been paid now
                                         
                                         I was about to send you
                                         
                                         this girl's story
                                         
                                         because there's a girl
                                         
                                         who is selling her couch
                                         
                                         that is exactly like yours.
                                         
                                         It's secondhand
                                         
    
                                         and it looks great
                                         
                                         and I know,
                                         
                                         but you've after going
                                         
                                         and doing that now
                                         
                                         and I just don't know,
                                         
                                         I just,
                                         
                                         I actually sent,
                                         
                                         no,
                                         
    
                                         I sent you it
                                         
                                         and then I took it back.
                                         
                                         I sent the mail
                                         
                                         and I unsent it to you
                                         
                                         because I was like,
                                         
                                         she'll be too upset.
                                         
                                         Okay,
                                         
                                         well we do list her emails.
                                         
    
                                         Let's go.
                                         
                                         Yeah, let's do it.
                                         
                                         Hi, Joanna Vogue.
                                         
                                         I'm 28
                                         
                                         and in a bit of
                                         
                                         never-ending loop
                                         
                                         in my head.
                                         
                                         I'd love your advice.
                                         
    
                                         I've been with my boyfriend.
                                         
                                         Wow, I've been with my boyfriend
                                         
                                         seven years.
                                         
                                         We met when I was 20
                                         
                                         and I was completely
                                         
                                         infatuated with him.
                                         
                                         We had an on-off relationship
                                         
                                         for a few years
                                         
    
                                         and then made it official
                                         
                                         after a lot of games
                                         
                                         on both sides,
                                         
                                         mostly his.
                                         
                                         Fast forward eight years
                                         
                                         and we're very happy
                                         
                                         in a strong relationship
                                         
                                         and I love him a lot.
                                         
    
                                         But there's a part of me
                                         
                                         that wonders
                                         
                                         if I've wasted my 20s
                                         
                                         and should have explored
                                         
                                         and had a little more fun.
                                         
                                         Yes, you should have.
                                         
                                         That would be my take on it
                                         
                                         straight away.
                                         
    
                                         In the nicest way possible.
                                         
                                         I feel exactly the same like I honestly
                                         
                                         feel like I should have had sex with like maybe 15 20 more people yeah and it's not just it's not
                                         
                                         just the sex it's just about life and experience mainly the sex now maybe for yeah okay for me now
                                         
                                         it'd be more just about like sex is great is great. No, don't get me wrong.
                                         
                                         I know, but I had... But it's been tied down to one person
                                         
                                         for when you're,
                                         
                                         as you grow up and grow into
                                         
    
                                         whoever you're going to be.
                                         
                                         Like, you change who you are.
                                         
                                         I'm a different person than when I was 20,
                                         
                                         and I'm 30,
                                         
                                         and I'll be a different person at 60 and 50.
                                         
                                         You change all the time.
                                         
                                         Oh, I know.
                                         
                                         Okay, let me finish.
                                         
    
                                         I wonder if he's the one,
                                         
                                         as friends around me start getting engaged,
                                         
                                         child brides, and having babies.
                                         
                                         Does this nagging feeling mean
                                         
                                         I should think about breaking up with him
                                         
                                         or does this happen in every relationship?
                                         
                                         Would love to know your thoughts.
                                         
                                         I think, oh God, this is,
                                         
    
                                         I don't want to break up a relationship,
                                         
                                         but I think 28 is so young.
                                         
                                         And if you're unsure,
                                         
                                         you don't want to like up a relationship, but I think 28 is so young. And if you're unsure, you don't want to like,
                                         
                                         like jump into getting married,
                                         
                                         like some other people here on this pod,
                                         
                                         Joe.
                                         
                                         But honestly,
                                         
    
                                         honestly,
                                         
                                         like I,
                                         
                                         I feel like I kind of,
                                         
                                         I would say I had a nagging feeling in a couple of relationships and,
                                         
                                         and I didn't like listen to myself and I just went on
                                         
                                         in these relationships when actually you need to go out and have fun like I remember when I broke
                                         
                                         up from my marriage I was like great I'm 30 I'm never gonna have kids I'm never gonna meet anyone
                                         
                                         and I genuinely thought that but I was like you know what I feel better about that than I do about
                                         
    
                                         staying with somebody for the sake of it I think it's so hard because there's nothing wrong with your
                                         
                                         relationship. You're really happy. So why would you walk away from a happy relationship? But then
                                         
                                         at the same time, she, you know, obviously there's a side of you that knows that there's more to life
                                         
                                         than being with the same person from when you're 20. But then like I have friends who did that and
                                         
                                         they're very happy. So I don't know. It just wouldn't have been for me. I can only talk about what I need and I would need,
                                         
                                         I need change, you know?
                                         
                                         And that's a very,
                                         
                                         that's a big part of your life
                                         
    
                                         that's very consistent.
                                         
                                         But then that's probably very comforting
                                         
                                         that you have this person
                                         
                                         that you're with all the time.
                                         
                                         But yeah, I don't know.
                                         
                                         I mean, it'd be lovely
                                         
                                         if you could just leave someone on ice
                                         
                                         for a little bit, wouldn't it?
                                         
    
                                         If you could just be like, pause.
                                         
                                         Can we just pause this for a little bit?
                                         
                                         Three years, three years. But if it's meant to be be it won't pass you by so just keep that in mind
                                         
                                         I don't obviously I don't like I'm not gonna I don't need to go and have sex with other people
                                         
                                         I'm joking but in a way I feel like as you're saying an experience and like maybe going out
                                         
                                         and being a bit more worldly like before I got married and settled down would have been like
                                         
                                         quite fun I know and
                                         
                                         so it is about sex again
                                         
    
                                         she's brought it back to sex again
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         I think
                                         
                                         it's a really tough one
                                         
                                         because
                                         
                                         you're obviously happy with them
                                         
                                         but
                                         
                                         there's something in you
                                         
    
                                         that there's a little niggling
                                         
                                         in your cell
                                         
                                         that says
                                         
                                         maybe there's more
                                         
                                         to this life
                                         
                                         than marrying this person
                                         
                                         I've been with
                                         
                                         since I was 20 years of age
                                         
    
                                         and there is
                                         
                                         but it's whether you actually
                                         
                                         kind of go through
                                         
                                         with that or not
                                         
                                         yeah some people
                                         
                                         are the kind of people
                                         
                                         that want to get married
                                         
                                         at that age
                                         
    
                                         and stay married
                                         
                                         at that age
                                         
                                         and some people
                                         
                                         just want to go out
                                         
                                         and have a little
                                         
                                         exploration
                                         
                                         there's a couch
                                         
                                         uh oh
                                         
    
                                         I have a man
                                         
                                         coming to take away
                                         
                                         the rubbish
                                         
                                         why is someone
                                         
                                         coming to take away
                                         
                                         the rubbish
                                         
                                         because I have so many
                                         
                                         boxes from Caroline and everything that they need to go.
                                         
    
                                         Oh, okay.
                                         
                                         Wow.
                                         
                                         Anyway.
                                         
                                         You're well able to organise shit.
                                         
                                         You've got someone coming to take away your rubbish.
                                         
                                         Get someone to come and take away your couch.
                                         
                                         Work on that today.
                                         
                                         I'm telling you.
                                         
    
                                         I've sent you one on Insta.
                                         
                                         You're getting a different couch.
                                         
                                         Just to finish on the couch.
                                         
                                         I was going to, I didn't know what I was going to do.
                                         
                                         And who steps in?
                                         
                                         Who's our superhero forward slash father figure
                                         
                                         stop I feel
                                         
                                         Kevin Carey
                                         
    
                                         I don't know how
                                         
                                         he hasn't punished us
                                         
                                         I don't know
                                         
                                         he's like Joanne Osworth
                                         
                                         I was like oh my god
                                         
                                         I was busy googling
                                         
                                         man with a van
                                         
                                         I was going to send
                                         
    
                                         someone to get it
                                         
                                         and bring it back
                                         
                                         and blah blah blah
                                         
                                         I think this podcast
                                         
                                         is sponsored by
                                         
                                         Caroline
                                         
                                         it's kind of ridiculous
                                         
                                         at this stage
                                         
    
                                         we've been infiltrated
                                         
                                         I feel like he's groomed us we talk about him all the time it's embarrassing sponsored by Caroline. It's kind of ridiculous at this stage. We've been infiltrated.
                                         
                                         I feel like he's groomed us.
                                         
                                         We talk about him all the time.
                                         
                                         It's embarrassing.
                                         
                                         I actually can't stop talking about him.
                                         
                                         I talk about him
                                         
                                         about four times a week.
                                         
    
                                         Honestly.
                                         
                                         You do.
                                         
                                         Sometimes, Jo,
                                         
                                         remember,
                                         
                                         sometimes in the pod
                                         
                                         we're like,
                                         
                                         Vogue, stop.
                                         
                                         You can't talk about Kevin again.
                                         
    
                                         Don't worry.
                                         
                                         I've started talking about him
                                         
                                         on Spencer and Vogue instead.
                                         
                                         It used to be the Kardashians
                                         
                                         used to reign you in.
                                         
                                         Now it's Caroline moving company.
                                         
                                         We're like, Vogue, please.
                                         
                                         Are we on a break now?
                                         
    
                                         We are, everyone.
                                         
                                         We are on a two week break.
                                         
                                         We're back on the 8th of March.
                                         
                                         And everyone, don't forget,
                                         
                                         Spenny and I are on tour.
                                         
                                         We're going over to Belfast. We are back on the 8th of March. And everyone, don't forget, Spenny and I are on tour. We're going over to
                                         
                                         Belfast. We are in two nights in
                                         
                                         Dublin and we are doing Cork
                                         
    
                                         and we're doing Dubai, if anyone's
                                         
                                         listening to it
                                         
                                         from Dubai. We're going to be there.
                                         
                                         We're very excited. you
                                         
