My Therapist Ghosted Me - MTGM EXTRA! "I feel like it's over."
Episode Date: June 19, 2024How did Vogue get on with the flight home? Clue: Not well. Plus, Joanne is raging about being snubbed by the Pope.If you’d like to get in touch, you can send an email to hello@MTGMpod.comPlease revi...ew Global's Privacy Policy: https://global.com/legal/privacy-policy/For merch, tour dates and more visit: www.mytherapistghostedme.comFor more information about Joanne's gigs, just visit www.joannemcnally.comThis episode contains explicit language and adult themes that may not be suitable for all listeners.Thank you!
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                                         Hello and welcome to my therapist ghosted me, the bonus episode.
                                         
                                         I was not ready for that. I thought we were just chewing fat behind the scenes.
                                         
                                         That was...
                                         
                                         Eight hours, 45 minutes sleep. Okay. I okay i'm on fuego again oh you're on fuego
                                         
                                         again yes i love when you're on fuego
                                         
                                         before we get started we have a couple of plugs to do well you know i adore a plug so plug right ahead Joanne don't you indeed I do certainly do we're like two
                                         
                                         two sparkies
                                         
    
                                         we have
                                         
                                         New York
                                         
                                         Boston
                                         
                                         Toronto
                                         
                                         on September
                                         
                                         on October
                                         
                                         Jo can you get us the dates
                                         
                                         always October
                                         
    
                                         12th
                                         
                                         13th
                                         
                                         and 14th
                                         
                                         10
                                         
                                         11
                                         
                                         12
                                         
                                         well near near
                                         
                                         close enough
                                         
    
                                         closer than Joanne
                                         
                                         in September
                                         
                                         we'll be in New York for New Year's Eve and Joanne in September.
                                         
                                         We'll be in New York for New Year's Eve.
                                         
                                         Can't wait for Thanksgiving.
                                         
                                         I just go where I'm told.
                                         
                                         October the 10th,
                                         
                                         the 11th and the 12th,
                                         
    
                                         Boston, New York, Toronto.
                                         
                                         October 10th, 11th, 12th,
                                         
                                         Boston, New York, Toronto.
                                         
                                         Tickets are on
                                         
                                         mytherapistghostedme.com
                                         
                                         So I'm home.
                                         
                                         I'm absolutely thrilled to be back.
                                         
                                         I had a great holiday, obviously,
                                         
    
                                         but they broke me finally on the way home.
                                         
                                         Like, spending the whole trip was like,
                                         
                                         how are you not, like, going mad?
                                         
                                         Because Otto would say my name
                                         
                                         about 300 times a day.
                                         
                                         And I was like, I just don't really hear it.
                                         
                                         I don't hear the constant screaming at me.
                                         
                                         I don't realize I'm carrying him all the time.
                                         
    
                                         On the flight home, they got me
                                         
                                         and I cried in the toilet.
                                         
                                         Good for you.
                                         
                                         Good for you.
                                         
                                         I was in the toilet with Otto
                                         
                                         because I couldn't go anywhere without him.
                                         
                                         And I was like, please sleep, Otto, please.
                                         
                                         You finally joined the mild cry club
                                         
    
                                         that I've been in for many, many, many years.
                                         
                                         All I do is cry in the sky.
                                         
                                         Well, I don't think I've quite joined your club.
                                         
                                         I'm going to be brave enough to do it in public the next time.
                                         
                                         I had to go and hide in the toilet to do it, but I should have just done it.
                                         
                                         And maybe someone would have taken them off my hands and got them to sleep for me.
                                         
                                         Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                         I sob openly in my seat.
                                         
    
                                         I have no shame.
                                         
                                         I don't know.
                                         
                                         Women have messaged me before saying they have a similar issue. Oh yeah, I sob openly in my seat. I have no shame. I don't know. Like I've discussed,
                                         
                                         so women have messaged me before
                                         
                                         saying they have a similar issue.
                                         
                                         So I've coined it now,
                                         
                                         the Malcri club.
                                         
                                         It's like,
                                         
    
                                         it's like,
                                         
                                         I think it's so,
                                         
                                         you have a lot of time to think up there.
                                         
                                         Obviously it's the gin.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         But park that.
                                         
                                         It's,
                                         
                                         I'm not,
                                         
    
                                         but I do tend to get a little philosophical in the sky.
                                         
                                         I, you see see I'm too busy and concerned at how the plane
                                         
                                         got to that height with all of the weight
                                         
                                         on it and I'm like I didn't tell you
                                         
                                         actually when I was flying to
                                         
                                         when we were flying to Zanzibar
                                         
                                         I had a full on meltdown on that flight
                                         
                                         like I was convinced
                                         
    
                                         we were going to die
                                         
                                         I just was like I was holding we were going to die and like I just was like
                                         
                                         I was holding on to Otto's leg
                                         
                                         I was crying
                                         
                                         and then I was obviously
                                         
                                         frightening a girl
                                         
                                         two rows back
                                         
                                         because we kept looking
                                         
    
                                         at each other
                                         
                                         and her face
                                         
                                         and I was like
                                         
                                         oh my god
                                         
                                         she thinks we're going to die too
                                         
                                         was it the turbulence
                                         
                                         or was it
                                         
                                         like why did you think
                                         
    
                                         you were going to die
                                         
                                         I felt like we went up
                                         
                                         and I felt like
                                         
                                         we came back down
                                         
                                         and we did slightly
                                         
                                         go back down and the air hostess then disappeared down the back of the plane I was like all right
                                         
                                         she's gonna go look after herself there's obviously a parachute back there she doesn't give a shit
                                         
                                         about us haven't seen her since but it was because it was the way it was turning it felt like we had
                                         
    
                                         gone down yeah and then I took I have to be honest I took half as annex on the flight and the long
                                         
                                         haul flight because I had to because I think that's just what I'm gonna have to be honest, I took half a Xanax on the flight and the long haul flight because I had to.
                                         
                                         Because I think that's just what I'm going to have to do now on flights.
                                         
                                         It's got to be because I'm really getting to the point where I'm starting to make everyone feel uncomfortable.
                                         
                                         And I don't think that's fair.
                                         
                                         I have a friend who's terrified of flying, so she heavily medicates herself to do so.
                                         
                                         So going on holidays with her is quite difficult because it takes her a couple of days to kind of come back to like reality for the
                                         
                                         medication to leave her system so we're just kind of dragging around from restaurant to bars
                                         
    
                                         and then by the time she comes fully back to herself it's time to go home I'm like I don't
                                         
                                         know why you're other but I've always said to myself who I have juicy conversations with I'm
                                         
                                         so glad I don't have a fear of flying because it is if you let it in it's it's it's very debilitating
                                         
                                         because especially
                                         
                                         because i fly a lot for work i'd be i'd be constant i'd be in a constant state of fear
                                         
                                         i my theory on it is when it's your time it's your time also they do say the brace position
                                         
                                         is actually designed to kill you quicker that's what i heard no it is not it's on my on my forums
                                         
                                         that i read regularly yeah Yeah. Some say conspiracy.
                                         
    
                                         I say truth tellers.
                                         
                                         The bracing position is apparently supposed to break your neck so you die quicker.
                                         
                                         It's kind of like putting down a chicken, I guess.
                                         
                                         I would just like to tell everyone that don't please take everything Joanne says with a pinch of salt.
                                         
                                         This is not true.
                                         
                                         I read it on conspiracy now.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         I don't know how you can dispute that.
                                         
    
                                         It's going to come to a point in Joanne's life
                                         
                                         where you're not actually going to know
                                         
                                         what's real or what's fake.
                                         
                                         We've got to be really careful
                                         
                                         about your conspiracy shit.
                                         
                                         I know.
                                         
                                         I'll be like,
                                         
                                         Vogue, I saw your sex tape
                                         
    
                                         and frankly, it was comical.
                                         
                                         Now, I wouldn't.
                                         
                                         Well, Joanneanne I saw yours
                                         
                                         and it looked like you were asleep.
                                         
                                         You were.
                                         
                                         I was actually writing
                                         
                                         I was actually writing
                                         
                                         stand-up right this other day.
                                         
    
                                         I was like if I did a sex tape
                                         
                                         they'd be like
                                         
                                         oh the screen is frozen.
                                         
                                         No that's me.
                                         
                                         Just lying there
                                         
                                         getting serviced.
                                         
                                         Why is she only frozen
                                         
                                         and he's still moving?
                                         
    
                                         There's a glitch in the screen.
                                         
                                         I wanted to tell you
                                         
                                         some plane facts
                                         
                                         that I read the other day
                                         
                                         that I thought were really good
                                         
                                         because we just started
                                         
                                         talking about planes.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
    
                                         In 2003,
                                         
                                         two men stole
                                         
                                         a parked Boeing 727
                                         
                                         and flew into the sunset
                                         
                                         and they were never found.
                                         
                                         How the fuck can you not find
                                         
                                         a Boeing?
                                         
                                         Where's it gone?
                                         
    
                                         It probably just fucking fell apart in the sky
                                         
                                         like the rest of them. Was this like a
                                         
                                         stag gone awry or something? What's this?
                                         
                                         Do you mean they never found them? They just
                                         
                                         took off and the plane never landed and
                                         
                                         they never reappeared? No, they obviously know
                                         
                                         about planes because they stole the plane. They must
                                         
                                         have just thrown the black box out and been like,
                                         
    
                                         let's take this plane. But where are you?
                                         
                                         How are you going to get used to that Boeing?
                                         
                                         Can you throw a
                                         
                                         oh it's probably a
                                         
                                         bar it's probably a
                                         
                                         pop-up bar in
                                         
                                         Glastonbury
                                         
                                         or do you know
                                         
    
                                         where do you know
                                         
                                         I bet you they've
                                         
                                         used it as um
                                         
                                         it's probably a
                                         
                                         accommodation in
                                         
                                         Burning Man
                                         
                                         that's what it is
                                         
                                         or well it probably
                                         
    
                                         sells pizza in
                                         
                                         Clapton or something
                                         
                                         like that
                                         
                                         yeah yeah yeah
                                         
                                         I think it's in the
                                         
                                         common actually
                                         
                                         they sell baby
                                         
                                         baby cappuccinos
                                         
    
                                         here's a scary one right
                                         
                                         an aero flight
                                         
                                         A21 crashed
                                         
                                         because the captain
                                         
                                         was drunk
                                         
                                         and he killed 88 people
                                         
                                         I will say again
                                         
                                         from my inside scoop
                                         
    
                                         into the world of aviation
                                         
                                         which I
                                         
                                         I do have a direct line
                                         
                                         but I can't reveal my sources
                                         
                                         pilots are absolute piss heads
                                         
                                         okay well what I will say
                                         
                                         about pilots
                                         
                                         right
                                         
    
                                         that guy was pissed
                                         
                                         he killed 88 people
                                         
                                         what about Denzel Washington
                                         
                                         what about Denzel Washington
                                         
                                         who was pissed
                                         
                                         and saved everybody
                                         
                                         no it's not
                                         
                                         remember
                                         
    
                                         that thing
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         he drove it into
                                         
                                         he landed in the Hudson
                                         
                                         was that it
                                         
                                         yeah so you
                                         
                                         that was Tom Hanks
                                         
                                         landed it in the Hudson
                                         
    
                                         Denzel Washington
                                         
                                         does it upside down
                                         
                                         then he pops it upside down, doesn't he?
                                         
                                         Pops it upside down.
                                         
                                         Oh, well, I was confusing the two, but anyway.
                                         
                                         Anyway, he saved lives while drinking,
                                         
                                         which I think is the important takeaway here for us.
                                         
                                         So you've got a pro and you've got a con.
                                         
    
                                         You've got the guy who couldn't handle his drink
                                         
                                         and you've got the guy who could handle his drink.
                                         
                                         Don't throw the baby out with the vodka, is the lesson.
                                         
                                         Yeah, the bathwater, the vodka.
                                         
                                         And do you know what?
                                         
                                         Denzel
                                         
                                         probably
                                         
                                         or the man
                                         
    
                                         that he played
                                         
                                         like I'm not advocating
                                         
                                         drink flying
                                         
                                         obviously.
                                         
                                         Fly responsibly girls.
                                         
                                         But
                                         
                                         maybe
                                         
                                         the couple of drinks
                                         
    
                                         gave him the confidence
                                         
                                         to flip the plane
                                         
                                         upside down.
                                         
                                         That's
                                         
                                         do you know what?
                                         
                                         I'm actually not going to
                                         
                                         disagree with you there
                                         
                                         but I would prefer if my pilot was sane and also sober. the plane upside down. Do you know what? I'm actually not going to disagree with you there.
                                         
    
                                         But I would prefer if my pilot was sane and also sober.
                                         
                                         Sane and sober are the way that I like them.
                                         
                                         Ideal.
                                         
                                         Yeah, same, same, same.
                                         
                                         I like my pilots like I like my children.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah, sane and sober.
                                         
                                         Yeah, sober and sane.
                                         
    
                                         Sober.
                                         
                                         Yeah, sober.
                                         
                                         So Joanne, I have decided to bite the bullet and I'm going to go for one of those tests for ADHD.
                                         
                                         One of the really long ones though.
                                         
                                         I don't know how I'm going to get through six hours of tests,
                                         
                                         but I'm going to go and do it.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I did contact a clinic and then,
                                         
                                         I'm not even joking when I say I just lost interest and didn't go.
                                         
    
                                         But I had I had an appointment and everything and they wanted to speak to my mother.
                                         
                                         So I was trying to groom her for the interview.
                                         
                                         Well, Spenny's obviously already had it, so he has it.
                                         
                                         But Spenny's gone in my bad books at the moment.
                                         
                                         And I want your I want your opinion on this.
                                         
                                         OK, so so I do most of the stuff with the kids as you know and when we were away we had
                                         
                                         the three kids spenny's parents were there so they helped out a little bit but you can't be expecting
                                         
                                         them to do everything so anyway we are flying home so we did our first five-hour flight and then we
                                         
    
                                         had a stopover in dubai and spenny was going to jordan spenny had decided and then i had a like i
                                         
                                         had a seven-hour flight and a basically two- hour trip home with the kids so nine hours with the kids on my own uh and uh and Spenny we got we got to Dubai airport and
                                         
                                         Spenny's like oh I'm really tired I was like yeah me too yeah I only got two hours sleep on the
                                         
                                         plane so like we're all tired and he's like no but I'm really tired and my flight to Jordan isn't
                                         
                                         very long so like I'll only get like three hours sleep or something like that I was like yeah well
                                         
                                         I'm um playing with all the kids so I will probably get less than that. So Spencer decided that on our stopover, I haven't even told him about this yet.
                                         
                                         I'm saving it.
                                         
                                         I decided on our stopover home that he was going to sleep for an hour and a half in the chair while I ran around after the kids and then got on a flight with them and then flew home.
                                         
    
                                         Who was right in this situation?
                                         
                                         Jo and Joanne.
                                         
                                         Well, I'm OK.
                                         
                                         Jo, I know you agree with me.
                                         
                                         I saw it by your nod and you agreed.
                                         
                                         Joanne, I know that you'll always have Spencer's back.
                                         
                                         I can't understand it.
                                         
                                         No, no, no, no, no.
                                         
    
                                         I like to ride a fine line.
                                         
                                         But I keep the two of you happy
                                         
                                         so that I'm still free to come and go
                                         
                                         as I please in the house.
                                         
                                         Well, I think that's actually quite clever of you.
                                         
                                         Isn't it?
                                         
                                         You should probably go into politics.
                                         
                                         You Tory witch.
                                         
    
                                         I've called you a Tory witch before.
                                         
                                         I do love it.
                                         
                                         I'm still completely confused as to what that is,
                                         
                                         but I like it.
                                         
                                         It has a ring to it.
                                         
                                         It's something to do with Lawrence Fox.
                                         
                                         Is that right?
                                         
                                         Is that right, Jo?
                                         
    
                                         Just because we're in an election period,
                                         
                                         we'll also joke that Joanne Is a Labour voting
                                         
                                         Green voting, Reform voting
                                         
                                         Lib Dem voting
                                         
                                         Ah Jo come on we're not political
                                         
                                         We don't give a shite
                                         
                                         Do we need to
                                         
                                         Cover all bases here?
                                         
    
                                         Are we being financed by the British government?
                                         
                                         What's happened here?
                                         
                                         And thank you
                                         
                                         Rishi Sunak
                                         
                                         for supporting this podcast
                                         
                                         thank you Rishi
                                         
                                         Rishi
                                         
                                         Rishi
                                         
    
                                         Rishi Sunak
                                         
                                         I love that
                                         
                                         and thank you
                                         
                                         Boris Johnson
                                         
                                         for inviting us
                                         
                                         to that party
                                         
                                         over lockdown
                                         
                                         we thoroughly
                                         
    
                                         enjoyed ourselves
                                         
                                         which we didn't go to
                                         
                                         in Boris Johnson's
                                         
                                         next video
                                         
                                         to get this podcast
                                         
                                         sorry speaking of getting snubbed when Boris didn't go to In Boris Johnson's next podcast Sorry
                                         
                                         Speaking of getting snubbed
                                         
                                         When Boris didn't invite us to that session
                                         
    
                                         Yeah
                                         
                                         Have you heard the latest
                                         
                                         Have you heard about the Pope
                                         
                                         I did hear about the Pope
                                         
                                         Because you sent it to me
                                         
                                         Jo did you hear about the Pope
                                         
                                         I'm absolutely fuming
                                         
                                         He's invited a few comedians over
                                         
    
                                         He's invited a few comedians over To do't he? He's invited a few comedians over
                                         
                                         to do some sort of corporate in the Vatican.
                                         
                                         I don't know what the details are.
                                         
                                         And I am not on the list.
                                         
                                         Joanne, I didn't know.
                                         
                                         Patrick Healty.
                                         
                                         Whoopi Goldberg went.
                                         
                                         Jimmy Fallon.
                                         
    
                                         Chris Rock.
                                         
                                         Stick to the Irish ones, Jo.
                                         
                                         Stick to the Irish ones.
                                         
                                         Obviously, I can't compete with Jimmy Fallon,
                                         
                                         but stick to the Irish ones, please.
                                         
                                         Conan O'Brien is not Irish
                                         
                                         He's not an Irish name though
                                         
                                         He looks Irish
                                         
    
                                         He looks Irish
                                         
                                         He's fake
                                         
                                         Oh Ardell O'Hanlon
                                         
                                         Is on the list I think
                                         
                                         Yeah
                                         
                                         Ardell O'Hanlon
                                         
                                         Who starred in
                                         
                                         A blasphemous TV show
                                         
    
                                         Called Father Ted
                                         
                                         Okay
                                         
                                         Are you telling me
                                         
                                         Are you telling me
                                         
                                         That you would actually
                                         
                                         Get in a plane
                                         
                                         And go over to see the Pope
                                         
                                         You would
                                         
    
                                         In your arse
                                         
                                         You're only annoyed Because you weren't invited plane and go over to see the Pope. You would in your arse. You're only annoyed
                                         
                                         because you weren't invited.
                                         
                                         No, you...
                                         
                                         Sorry, a collab with the Pope.
                                         
                                         Tommy Tiernan's in on it.
                                         
                                         Tommy's in on it.
                                         
                                         Of course he is.
                                         
    
                                         He left you...
                                         
                                         He dropped you like a hot snot
                                         
                                         after Dubai, didn't he?
                                         
                                         He never mentioned that
                                         
                                         in Abu Dhabi
                                         
                                         that he was off to the Vatican.
                                         
                                         Kept that to himself.
                                         
                                         Shocker.
                                         
    
                                         Just so you know,
                                         
                                         I was invited as well
                                         
                                         but I actually declined.
                                         
                                         I said, no thanks. I'm really busy that day. Just so you know, I was invited as well, but I actually declined. I said, no, thanks.
                                         
                                         I'm really busy that day.
                                         
                                         Of course you were invited.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I was.
                                         
                                         Well, if the Pope's listening to this, which I'm sure he is,
                                         
    
                                         just know that I'm always the one who puts the baby Jesus in the manger on Christmas Eve in my family house.
                                         
                                         And from now on, I will not be doing that.
                                         
                                         Do you want to say, here, listen, I'll remember that.
                                         
                                         Threaten the Pope, go on'll remember that threaten the Pope go on
                                         
                                         am I threatening the Pope now
                                         
                                         yes I am actually
                                         
                                         I'll remember that
                                         
                                         we will remember that
                                         
    
                                         baby Jesus is going to stay in the box
                                         
                                         and you've no one to blame but yourself
                                         
                                         and I'm not going to Mass anymore
                                         
                                         ever again
                                         
                                         not even the next time I get married
                                         
                                         I'm not going to Mass
                                         
                                         not even yeah
                                         
                                         she's going to get married
                                         
    
                                         at Stonehenge like a pagan bitch
                                         
                                         and no one's going to put you around
                                         
                                         Hi Vogue and Siobhan
                                         
                                         I've just been to a wedding with my husband
                                         
                                         and I'm fuming
                                         
                                         it was a wedding for his husband and I'm fuming.
                                         
                                         It was a wedding for his friends, so I didn't really know anyone anyway.
                                         
                                         But I didn't see him all night.
                                         
    
                                         He was around working the room and talking to at least three women he used to date.
                                         
                                         He drank... Oh yeah, I know.
                                         
                                         Well, you see, I can't actually get annoyed by things like that
                                         
                                         because Spencer has dated everybody in London.
                                         
                                         So if I started getting annoyed by one it would just be like endless.
                                         
                                         He drank fucking loads
                                         
                                         because I said I'd drive home
                                         
                                         and on the way home
                                         
    
                                         he just kept talking
                                         
                                         about this one woman.
                                         
                                         They were at uni together
                                         
                                         and how cool she is.
                                         
                                         Make no bones
                                         
                                         I feel jealous and pathetic
                                         
                                         because I feel like
                                         
                                         watching him that night
                                         
    
                                         he came alive
                                         
                                         like I haven't seen in ages.
                                         
                                         The last time he made that much effort with me we hadn't had sex in 10 months after having a baby and he was just desperate for so to start shagging again I get that a marriage changes over time but
                                         
                                         it's the first time I felt like his heart just isn't in it anymore oh no I just okay let me
                                         
                                         finish it and then just before we got married eight years ago together for 12,
                                         
                                         he was having an emotional affair
                                         
                                         with a woman he works with.
                                         
                                         I believe him
                                         
    
                                         that it wasn't physical
                                         
                                         but that's the history.
                                         
                                         Please tell me
                                         
                                         I'm just being stupid and jealous
                                         
                                         because at the moment
                                         
                                         I feel like it's over.
                                         
                                         Anon, please.
                                         
                                         I honestly,
                                         
    
                                         this is how I feel about it
                                         
                                         and I suppose
                                         
                                         that you're probably
                                         
                                         not feeling great
                                         
                                         at the moment
                                         
                                         about yourself anyway. So I think that he went to that feeling great at the moment about yourself anyway
                                         
                                         so I think that he went
                                         
                                         to that wedding
                                         
    
                                         and it's just loads of people
                                         
                                         he hadn't seen before
                                         
                                         if he was drinking
                                         
                                         he was probably trying
                                         
                                         to show off a little bit
                                         
                                         like when you're on your own
                                         
                                         like when you're with
                                         
                                         somebody all the time
                                         
    
                                         you do get used to them
                                         
                                         but like I feel like
                                         
                                         when you're on your own
                                         
                                         it's nice to get
                                         
                                         a little bit of attention
                                         
                                         like everybody does it
                                         
                                         it's normal
                                         
                                         a bit of peacocking
                                         
    
                                         I call it
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         you're kind of showing you yeah you're
                                         
                                         ruffling your feathers uh yeah I agree I I see it from both sides yeah I understand why okay I would
                                         
                                         date with a guy before and it was a similar situation we were going out a couple of years
                                         
                                         and then we would go to events and there would be women there and he would like that peacock And he would be making them laugh
                                         
                                         And he would be kind of flirting
                                         
                                         And I would be getting really annoyed
                                         
    
                                         And really angry
                                         
                                         But what I realised was
                                         
                                         That's just who he is
                                         
                                         So it just doesn't suit me
                                         
                                         To go out with someone like that
                                         
                                         Because I felt
                                         
                                         And we broke up anyway
                                         
                                         It was kind of
                                         
    
                                         It was on the rocks a bit as well
                                         
                                         I'm not saying this woman's marriage is on the rocks
                                         
                                         But also you do get so used to your partner
                                         
                                         when you're out with other people.
                                         
                                         It's like that thing, when you're going out with someone,
                                         
                                         you always have that one friend there that you're like,
                                         
                                         oh, maybe I should be riding them
                                         
                                         because you get on with them so well
                                         
    
                                         because there's no, there's no, there's no,
                                         
                                         like jeopardy there.
                                         
                                         You can just safely kind of flirt and hang out and get on.
                                         
                                         Do you know what I mean?
                                         
                                         I don't even think, like, I'm trying to,
                                         
                                         because the way I explained that with Spencer probably wasn't right.
                                         
                                         So, like, I'm not saying that Spencer goes out when we're, like,
                                         
                                         he's done it once when we're, like, together and he's kind of, like, just kind of ditched me.
                                         
    
                                         And I'm like, hello, like, I'm still here.
                                         
                                         And I was like, don't be doing that when I'm with you,
                                         
                                         going around showing off.
                                         
                                         But, like, you do, like, it's nice to go out
                                         
                                         and feel like you're, like, on your own
                                         
                                         and you're just kind of your own person for a while.
                                         
                                         Because when you're married, you're so insular together. Yeah. And when you're like on your own and you're just kind of your own person for a while because when you're married you're so insular together
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
    
                                         and when you're
                                         
                                         and I would
                                         
                                         I just
                                         
                                         I don't think I'd be worried
                                         
                                         about the fact that he did that
                                         
                                         I think that's completely normal
                                         
                                         he made her feel a bit boring
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
    
                                         she was like
                                         
                                         oh do I kind of bore you
                                         
                                         that you're
                                         
                                         you're coming alive
                                         
                                         around these other people
                                         
                                         who also happen to be women
                                         
                                         which is a little unfortunate
                                         
                                         because then you're feeling
                                         
    
                                         quite territorial about it
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         but like
                                         
                                         surely in a marriage that is kind of what happens like also happen to be women, which is a little unfortunate because then you're feeling quite territorial about it. Yeah. But like,
                                         
                                         surely in a marriage that is kind of what happens.
                                         
                                         Like,
                                         
                                         you need,
                                         
                                         do you know what you should do?
                                         
    
                                         Leave him for a little bit.
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
                                         Don't.
                                         
                                         I,
                                         
                                         and then,
                                         
                                         no?
                                         
                                         No,
                                         
                                         I would say,
                                         
    
                                         just,
                                         
                                         I'd say it to him.
                                         
                                         I'd be like,
                                         
                                         I get that you want to like,
                                         
                                         you want to feel like,
                                         
                                         like you're,
                                         
                                         you're like,
                                         
                                         you're fun and blah, blah, blah.
                                         
    
                                         We've been together for so long.
                                         
                                         But just be really present when I'm with you.
                                         
                                         Remember that I'm there.
                                         
                                         Let's have fun together when I'm there.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         I have seen it, though.
                                         
                                         I've also been on the receiving end of it. I was at a wedding once and there was a man there, a husband.
                                         
                                         He was just kind of like, you know, wooing the lady.
                                         
    
                                         He was having a great time
                                         
                                         With all the single girls
                                         
                                         At the wedding and stuff
                                         
                                         And I could tell his wife
                                         
                                         Wasn't that impressed
                                         
                                         And it was a bit awkward
                                         
                                         But
                                         
                                         I think sometimes
                                         
    
                                         People just behave like that
                                         
                                         Particularly at weddings
                                         
                                         They're kind of hyper
                                         
                                         Everyone's dressed up
                                         
                                         Yeah
                                         
                                         They're seeing people
                                         
                                         They haven't seen in years
                                         
                                         They're
                                         
    
                                         Kind of nostalgia
                                         
                                         They're going over
                                         
                                         All stories
                                         
                                         And I have to be honest
                                         
                                         You kind of like And this I'm not trying to be mean To you at and I have to be honest you kind of like
                                         
                                         and this
                                         
                                         I'm not trying to be mean
                                         
                                         to you at all
                                         
    
                                         but I think that
                                         
                                         when you go to like
                                         
                                         like I don't ever want to feel
                                         
                                         like I'm looking after somebody
                                         
                                         do you know what I mean
                                         
                                         like let's say you and I
                                         
                                         went out together
                                         
                                         do you know what I mean
                                         
    
                                         like you're kind of like
                                         
                                         a social butterfly
                                         
                                         so like we'll go out together
                                         
                                         and if we're at an event together
                                         
                                         we might like disperse for a while
                                         
                                         but like you don't want to feel
                                         
                                         like you're looking after
                                         
                                         somebody at an event
                                         
    
                                         that's why we don't
                                         
                                         that's it yeah
                                         
                                         yeah yeah yeah yeah
                                         
                                         yeah but I have
                                         
                                         like I say
                                         
                                         I've been on the
                                         
                                         receiving end of
                                         
                                         feeling like that
                                         
    
                                         having a boyfriend
                                         
                                         who when we went out
                                         
                                         I was the least
                                         
                                         interesting thing
                                         
                                         in that room to him
                                         
                                         and it was
                                         
                                         you know
                                         
                                         it was a tough pill
                                         
    
                                         to swallow at the time
                                         
                                         it made me feel like
                                         
                                         a piece of shit
                                         
                                         it's not nice
                                         
                                         if it happens all the time
                                         
                                         I will agree with you
                                         
                                         no
                                         
                                         and that's why
                                         
    
                                         I think you should say it
                                         
                                         fake leave
                                         
                                         fake leaving
                                         
                                         is always an option
                                         
                                         don't take anything big
                                         
                                         you know you're coming back
                                         
                                         couple of pillows
                                         
                                         some cutlery
                                         
    
                                         but like it doesn't
                                         
                                         sound to me like
                                         
                                         the marriage
                                         
                                         like she's saying
                                         
                                         that the marriage is over
                                         
                                         it doesn't sound like that
                                         
                                         to me now
                                         
                                         now we don't know
                                         
    
                                         what else is going on
                                         
                                         but that's
                                         
                                         I mean I wouldn't
                                         
                                         leave a marriage first,
                                         
                                         but listen, I've never been married.
                                         
                                         Folks, they're professional here.
                                         
                                         I don't think that there's,
                                         
                                         the necessity to fake leave
                                         
    
                                         is just a bit annoying.
                                         
                                         Like if you have to pack a bag for him,
                                         
                                         then you're going to probably
                                         
                                         have to put the stuff away
                                         
                                         because you packed the bag.
                                         
                                         There's a lot of shit around that.
                                         
                                         Like I just,
                                         
                                         I just have a little chat with him.
                                         
    
                                         But I might fake leave Spencer
                                         
                                         after the Dubai incident
                                         
                                         once he knows about it.
                                         
                                         I do feel like when people have kids,
                                         
                                         the fight for sleep is a very real thing.
                                         
                                         And also, I've spoken to friends before
                                         
                                         who said that one of my friends
                                         
                                         said she was going to leave her husband
                                         
    
                                         when the babies first arrived
                                         
                                         because they were so sleep deprived.
                                         
                                         They were killing each other.
                                         
                                         Like, killing each other.
                                         
                                         Like, sleep deprivation, that's what they do in Guantanamo other. Like killing each other. Like sleep deprivation.
                                         
                                         That's what they do in Guantanamo Bay.
                                         
                                         It's actually torture.
                                         
                                         I was.
                                         
    
                                         I was thinking about that on the flight.
                                         
                                         And I was like, imagine like being sleep deprived for like three days where you literally get not even a wink of sleep when they're torturing you.
                                         
                                         It would just be awful.
                                         
                                         Oh, it would be so bad.
                                         
                                         If I had a baby, I would literally shoot it out of the canal and then hand it to the wet nurse and be like, take it to boarding school.
                                         
                                         When it's in a pattern, bring it back.
                                         
                                         That's what I would say.
                                         
                                         Please take my baby.
                                         
    
                                         I'd actually, I'd wake up to the sound of crying downstairs.
                                         
                                         I'm like, what is that noise?
                                         
                                         Joanne will have just, she'll have let herself in, left the baby there and all.
                                         
                                         There's a newborn baby under the peloton. what is that noise? Joanne will have just, she'll have let herself in, left the baby there and all of a sudden, like, oh.
                                         
                                         There's a newborn baby
                                         
                                         under the peloton.
                                         
                                         Does anyone know
                                         
                                         where that came from?
                                         
    
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