My Therapist Ghosted Me - MTGM EXTRA! "Pathetic separation packing (PSP)"

Episode Date: August 30, 2023

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This is a Global Player Original Podcast. Hello and welcome to the bonus episode of My Therapist Ghosted Me with Mevogue Williams and Joanne McNally. You didn't lose your shades Well done Didn't lose the shades I've after I've taken the plunge And I've bought A granny chain

Yeah It's the only way And sadly I thought it would look A little cooler than it does It's quite camel vibes But When you have

The attention span I do You need additional help And So I have a granny chain on my glasses now That's just what it is That's what it is You just need to strap things on to yourself Too many sleeves went down the drain I do just strap things on

I just should staple them to my face Just blue tack them to my eyes But they're not going anywhere now That's why I'm still wearing them now Because I have stuck them to my own face So they can't escape well you're in San Sebastian how how is it it's amazing and I found a glasses shop that do that mimic all the designer glasses for 50 euro so all the Prada glasses I've lost all of them I can replace them All in San Sebastian For a hundred quid Do they say Prada

On the side No They're a clear rip off But they don't say The names on the side Which is perfect I don't fucking care About the names

I don't care No No I just think that When you lost The second pair there It was time to go You need to

You shouldn't even You shouldn't even be Sending 50 euro on glasses To be honest You're more of a like Five euro girl I know I know

It's euro saver Pound land land I was on Lorraine Last week Doing the fashion stuff There's a pair of sunglasses 250 from Primark And they were the nicest

Sunglasses That's where you should Be getting your sunglasses Were they though Because I do think There's something about Sunglasses That the cheap ones

I feel like They don't have They don't seem to have The nice styles That I sunglasses that the cheap ones I feel like you know they don't have they don't seem to have the nice styles that I like in the cheap ones they're amazing I mean your eyes will probably burn out of your head but they look amazing yeah you're not getting any eye protection yeah that's fair

yeah swipe up are you doing you're working with Primark now obviously no I'm not actually working with Primark they might have an issue with the last sentence. I'm up in Scotland, so I'm having the time of my life, obviously. I would like to say, and I think when I whinge about hangovers, I think it's important to point out the good days, right? So I woke up this morning.

I'd had three hours sleep. I was very disappointed in my actions last night. Had a great night. Went down, had breakfast, and I said, you know what? I'm going to take myself back up to that bed. Had another three hours sleep And I woke up feeling Fantastic

Like I woke up feeling Like I should start drinking now I was about to have one Oh dear But I couldn't But I couldn't get the internet to work So I didn't have time To pour a glass

I went to the gym I went to the sauna And I had a cold shower So Oh gorgeous Yeah it works in both ways I was thinking I'm becoming more wellnessy I did Yeah it works in both ways I was thinking I'm becoming more wellnessy

I did more of that Meditating yesterday I got six minutes in That's I mean I was Sorry that's actually loads That's six minutes of I don't know what meditation is

But whatever it is Sitting still and Having a good think for yourself Yeah having a good think Six minutes of going through All the bits I need to get Stored out In my head

My shopping list Done A cada order Done You know That's Six minutes of going through all the bits I need to get sorted out in my head. My shopping list, done. Ocado order, done. You know? That's, have you spoken to your guru about this? Does he know that you're just doing your Ocado shopping list while you're supposed to be meditating? That's what meditating is. I thought he was trying to find nirvana or like some sort of higher spiritual plane to hang out on or something.

Not ordering avocados and cured meats and my whole family's just arrived in glen afric i don't mean to be rude but like you guys are being rude having me here i haven't even said hello to them they just walked through the door well we were talking so there's seven of us seven girls in an apartment in san sebastian this is so we all my school friends we all turned 40 this year so this is like Our kind of Reunion holiday Yeah And it's so funny I was just talking To one of them there

We were talking about how Like we Seven of us in an apartment Like it's a lot You know what I mean Like there's always People coming and going And we're moving

En masse through the town And everywhere we go We need a table for seven And blah blah blah And San Sebastian It's all kind of like Pinchos and tapas It's all kind of

Tables for two Tables for two Seven So anyway We were like it's gas Because of Tables for two Tables for two Seven So anyway We were like it's gas Because Camille went for a run And we're just kind of Taking a little breather

From the gang And we were like It's so funny We used to do this For the whole summer Like we used to go away Three months together Living in each other's pockets

Sleeping in suitcases Upside down Hanging from the rafters Not a bother Never a single moment On your own Never needed it Never wanted it just moving en masse all the time three months three months i could still do that i'm that kind of person like i love living in people's pockets i was only

talking to megan my friend about you today and she was like where will she live in london when she gets somewhere and i was like she's gonna be one of those people That wants to live on her own Whereas I couldn't think of I would live with Anybody But live on my own Well I'm only I'm only at that stage Not Joe though

Not Joe No no one would live with Joe I'm only at that stage now When I first moved to London I had to live with people Because I was So Like on edge all the time

I was on the edge The whole time Because I was new And I didn't have a job And I needed people around me. Now, I'm going to give it a go. I mean,

I might like it. That's the plan. You're going to live on your own. Yeah. And I'm 40. I know, but I think that like, no,

like when I'm, when Spenny passes away before me, because he will, when he passes away, we'll make sure of that. Oh yeah. Yeah. He's on the way out.

I've been measuring him for a while now for his coffin. All five foot two of him. I'm going to get a discount on his coffin because he's so small. That's the plan.

I'll tell you what, I was doing a TV show and they had small businesses on and the small business I've spoken about this was the coffins. Do you think I was missing a beat? I asked for a discount,

he gave me a cheeky little discount and I got Spenny his own coffin he's ready he's ready to go so anyway so when he passes away

it's more just like a capsule really because it's so small it's just like a basin a lunchbox we could fit him into a lunchbox

yeah I could fit him into a good sized suitcase like not extra large just large I could just he squashed him in before the rigamortis

sets in just twist him around on himself done nice sports bag but when but when he goes i'm gonna move in with one of my granny mates so that might be you yeah i'll be i'll be waiting i'll be waiting oh there's a bit of traffic do you hear that anyway um i'll be waiting. I'll be waiting. Oh, there's a bit of traffic. Do you hear that? Anyway, I'll be waiting. There is the fantasy of the nunnery where we all just move in together into the same housing estate or the same house or whatever it is. I'd like the same house, to be honest.

I'd love it so much. Tell me about the constant sweating in the face, about the embarrassment, about the milk moustache of sweat, all that. Oh, no. Constant. Are you wearing foundation All the same

No there's no point There's absolutely no point Can't even wear mascara Sunglasses sliding down the nose The whole time with the sweat You have an idea Of what you look like on holiday And then the reality of it

I'm just like a big bag of Cellulite covered in sweat Everyone's disgusting on holidays This salt spray for your hair. Like, get lost. No one goes around like that. A beach wave. It's like,

I look like I've been electrocuted at all times. Like, I've just pulled my fingers out of the sockets. The hair is out of fucking control. I can't fake tan because I just sweat it off because we can't even sleep.

The apartment's so hot. I look completely Pasty white I think I've got A new varicose vein No It's like Being

I do admire Those women That like I saw one at the Beach club When I was in Spain And she arrived And she had this

And she had kids I don't know What the fuck Anyway She arrived In this like Amazing outfit Her hair was definitely

Bouncy blow dried And heels Heels To the beach To the beach Anyway, she arrives in this amazing outfit. Her hair was definitely bouncy blow-dried. And heels. Heels. To the beach. To the beach. I admired it. I just thought, you know what?

Here I am dragging myself out the door, looking disgusting with my beard. Western beard. And you look amazing. Hold on a second now. Like, come on now. You're pretty glam on your holidays. I know you like to be relatable, but even Joe's nod nodding here now i mean anyone can put a bit anyone can put a bikini on

they can't actually sorry for getting dressed you're a bit glam on your holidays now do you think i'm a glam person come on now yeah you're filling my ads Out with Arnold I am not Glam on holidays There isn't a brand In the world Would want to be tagged In anything I'm talking about On my holidays

So how long are you there for? Couple more days And then I go to Lisbon But the Spanish women I swear to God Like But the Spanish women I swear to god Like they're perfection Their skin is like silky smooth Because they're wearing

And they know how to dress in the heat That's the thing I forget how to dress for heat I'm like what am I over here I don't know who I am They have all the gorgeous Yeah they have the kind of rompers And so you can see

their ass cheeks and they're just perfect, perfect asses. They're just perfect. It's all the olive oil. We should start drinking olive oil. I'm sure it's the olive oil. Is that what it is?

I think so. That's why their skin looks so smooth and soft and just like, It's so smooth. Yeah, it's so smooth. And they're kind of like smoking

but it looks like it's kind of actually adding to their life. They look healthier. They're just like sitting around sipping coffees and I just, it's so chic like It's kind of actually Adding to their life They look healthier They're just like Sitting around Sipping coffees And I just

It's so chic It's the sun though as well Like they get to live in the sun Like when we're in the wet rain For most of the year In the darkness I know Like it just

It doesn't add Or elevate anyone's mood It doesn't I'm not elevated Until I leave I'm flat lying And then you're going to Lisbon

You really are On your holidays On my holidays Doing a bit of lying And then you're going to Lisbon So you really are On your holidays On my holidays Doing a bit of travel And then I go to Dubai Oh Bit of news You've sold Dubai out

No Fucking no No So I'm putting on A run of Prosecco's In January In the Borgosch Theatre And they go on sale

Wednesday Which is the day this comes out So they'll be on sale At 10am Oh amazing How many are you doing I'm going to do six Yeah

I'm going to do six Borgoshes Borgoshes is a lovely venue I'm going again It's a really nice venue Oh yeah Really really nice You'll be dragged in

Yeah No I'll definitely be going It's a I needed a change I needed a change of scene And it's still six And then I'm Then I'm putting myself

Out to pasture I'm going into some sort of Like What would you call it Not temporary What's the opposite of temporary No sorry Temporary

Temporary retirement Sorry You're going out Like the horses go out The horses go out From September to like I don't know May or something

You're going out Like the horses Do they Somewhat They go out For the fields for a while or something you're going out like the horse do they something like that they go out for the fields for a while how come you're

always around it's not September yet I'll be sent out in September oh yeah Spaniard has a little patch of a little patch of grass

outside for me he just leaves me out there I'll come up and feed you a sugar cube hey Vooch we miss you

I love my body hello and feed you a sugar cube. Hey, Vooch. We miss you. I love my body. Hello. Don't walk behind her. Don't walk behind her. She's been known to kick people in the face. How's Lisb? Oh my god it's amazing I don't know how I've never been here before

Did you have one of those tartlets? No not yet I haven't had a tartlet yet I've never been And everyone tells me to go Today Like it's stunning It's so cool

Like Really cool Really trendy city Love it Obviously I'm thinking Of moving here Because that's what I do I've heard though

That people say That is really cool I'm going to go At some point I need to do Little city breaks Like you're doing Like just little bursts

Away Without my children Because I always feel Guilty when I don't Take them away But I think This is the year That I'm going to start

Ditching them So I want to go to Lisboa And I would like to go It's amazing Oh my god I'd come back in a shot Like I'd I'm going to start ditching them. So I want to go to Lisboa and I would like to go with you. It's amazing. Oh my God, I'd come back in a shot. Like I'm obviously checking like Hayes Price. You know, that's what I do. When I'm in a city, I'm really there

and I consider living there. I do it all the time. But it's not cheap actually, but it wouldn't be. But it's, anyway, yeah, absolutely. We'd have a bar and they have tuk-tuks And they can They drive you around

The city and give you History tours of the places And all Brilliant Brilliant Sure you'd know You'd know all the history From you by the time

I get there I I'm just back from Scotland And sorry everyone This episode is a bit Mismashed because There was no internet Connection

Where I was And Jo kept me Sitting on the line For 25 minutes while my family were downstairs there are going to be points in this episode where Joanne says

that she's in Spain and Vogue says she's in Scotland and then there will be points where Joanne says she's in Portugal and points where Vogue says she's not in Scotland anymore so none of this is going to make sense

how modern I'm in London now well it will make sense because it's just like. None of it makes sense anyway, Jo. I really don't think we should start worrying about that now. Folk, this is why I'm moving back to London in September. I don't know why I'm speaking French.

God, our French has really come on leaps and bounds since that trip to Canada. I can tell you now like it's so embarrassing I don't even have pigeon Portuguese like I've nothing like I don't even have like budgie Portuguese I've nothing I can tell you a couple of words obrigado obrigado pela sua visita so that means thank you for your visit yeah you're welcome yeah oh that was my point I'm moving back to London to be with Vogue for the sake of our podcast because like we have to do it in the studio together because this just isn't working for us anymore. No it's not working for us anymore we want it to be better we want it

to be in the studio I want Joanne to be here because I don't have that many friends in London I've got like I've got like maybe four or five people that I like to spend time with over here but you you'll be my favorite. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Well, people are like, oh, where are you going to? Because I'm going to get somewhere myself now when I go back.

And they're like, where are you going to go? And I was like, beside Vogue. I've nowhere else to go really. I'm delighted that you're going to move beside me. But where are you going to move? I'll tell you what, right? If you were really cool, you could move to East, but you're not really, like, East cool anymore.

I'm just going to put it out there. What? I'm going to put it out there. You're not, okay? You're not. People from the East don't go to Lisbon on holidays, right? They go to, like,

Tulum or wherever. Do they, yeah? Actually, I did get, one guy did DM me and he seemed very angry. He's like, stop being such a basic bitch with your location choices

And I was like Excuse me I'm sorry What underground country Am I supposed to be going to That no one else has heard of Like what's the secret country That cool kids go to

Everywhere's been discovered Like come on I'm not fucking Christopher Columbus Joanne go to Berlin And do your ketamine therapy Over there Or go to I don't know

What's that other place Copenhagen Yeah no you're right You're right It's a bit obvious Well I still want to go to Lisbon Okay Because I am a basic bitch

And I'm pretty happy about it 100% I'm buying an apartment here Let's do it I am a mainstream Mary Mainstream Margaret That's me I love a bit of

Mainstream Me too It's just easy Isn't it Like you know I want to be on the path More travelled Not the road less travelled

Whatever that poem is Exactly I want to be on the more Travelled one So That's so Insightful vote Because surely we just go

Where the other people Went before us Because they Like why would we We're not trailblazers we we're sheep we are sheep I'm a particular sheep because I literally follow everything you do I'm I'm going on your Africa trip just wanted to make sure you did it first and now I'm done because you said it was good yeah I'm your um budgie and my hair died blonder to look like you I'm your

budgie in the where do they put the budgies, Jo, to see if they die? If there's gas or something? In the mine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm your budgie. Oh, that's desperate, the poor budgies. Well, I don't think they do. I think they probably have a more official system now.

Back in the day, they'd throw a budgie in and if it came back out, brand new, it didn't. Is it dead? Weird enough, my brother found... My brother... and if it came back out brand never did it is it dead? weird enough my brother found my brother my brother texted our family group

yesterday and he was like I'm after finding a budgie a budgie he found an actual budgie I have the picture of it here and he texted

so he put it up on like some some group within their estate that they have and someone was like oh that's my budgie I'll pick it up tomorrow

and he's like no like I'd really prefer if you picked up your budgie today like no one wants a budgie what did he think he was going to do fly around his house

shiting on everything for a whole day until he was ready to collect them that's so funny I'll pick it up tomorrow he was like finally a night off

my god budgie sitting He was like Finally a night off My god Budgie sitting Will we read an email? Please I'm on a dial up Internet here mode We will read Joe's raging I think it's so funny

Joe's about to lose his mind Now I would I would like to say There is only one email We really appreciate Two There's two emails Oh there's two emails Okay fine Well we would like you To keep sending only one email We really appreciate Two There's two emails Oh there's two emails

Okay fine Well we would like you To keep sending in emails Basically because we do Appreciate them Please send Please send the emails Or we've

Nothing to talk about About us What would we do We could always do That dial up connection Voice that you're doing For like half an hour On the pod

Just Well a lot of A lot of those A lot of the agony ants They just make up their own problems So I mean if it comes to it We'll just write our own emails I'm not above that

Do you know what I have a shit load of problems That I can unleash on you guys Once I can say I'm a non I'll be happy to like share my problems I'm a non Oh sorry A non I'm not sorry

Do you know that When Spenny and I were doing our pod He was like why does this a non person Keep mailing in He did not He did not Oh my god that's amazing That's really funny

I was thrilled That's really funny I think was thrilled. That's really funny. Okay. I think there's a lot more to discover in the world of pathetic separation packing, or PSP, as it should hereby be called. A couple of years ago, I found out my husband had been shagging the woman behind the bar at our local pub. They've since moved to an island where there are only six people.

Long story. What? Okay. Anyway, like everything, he managed to turn it around on me. Apparently, it was my fault he was cheating because I didn't ever tell him he looked nice. Thirsty much?

After he'd had... Do you know what Spenny said to me the other day? He was like, darling, are you ever going to instigate it? I was like was like well if you ever gave me five fucking seconds to get in there first i might i know you're like there's no window there's never there's no room there's no room sorry i was i was brushing my teeth and didn't immediately start trying it on so you didn't get it in there first i have the same with Alan With phone calls

He's like Are you ever going to ring me And I'm like You ring me all the time Like I You need I need space To have something

To happen to me To ring you about it Like Do you know what I mean My mum Sandra Would never Ever Ever ring me

Like I think even if I was in hospital Very very sick She still wouldn't ring me I have to ring Sandra Sandra does not ring me Like I think even if I was in hospital Very very sick she still wouldn't ring me I have to ring Sandra Sandra does not ring me ever Yeah no you go we go to Sandra Sandra does not come to us that's always That's Sandra she's

That's who she is Pat will however ring Joanne Oh my mum said Will she what she sent me a meme today She sent me a TikTok reel So we, she sent me a TikTok reel. So we obviously can assume she's also on TikTok now. She's sneaking on the TikTok, yeah. P. McNally, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, no doubt.

But she sent me a TikTok reel with someone going, if your mother isn't the most annoying person on the planet, is she even a mother? And mum sent it to me and she goes I know how annoying I am, I even annoy myself. And I was like, well at least you're aware. I love you mum. I feel the same about myself

quite often. Okay, after he'd had his little strop, he went upstairs and packed his suitcase. Except it wasn't a full-size suitcase like we had in the loft. Instead, he'd packed two kiddie suitcases that we had in the loft. Instead, he packed two kiddie suitcases that we had under the bed. One Power Rangers suitcase

and one Rapunzel one. No. After he'd left, I realized that one must have been full of socks and boxers whilst the other was apparently full of t-shirts. He hadn't taken any trousers at all. He'd also left his toothbrush, razor, the steroid cream for his bad

skin and his glasses. Ooh, that was a dig. He managed to remember his aftershave, though. Priorities. I love the thought of him turning up at her house with his baby suitcases, smelling great with terrible skin and unable to see anything further than too free to front from.

We don't need men like that. Fuck them. I'm now much happier with a man five years younger than me and fun to film. We don't need men like that. Fuck them. I'm now much happier with a man five years younger than me and an adult suitcase. Go on. Yes. I love that. I love that story.

I feel empowered. What a loser. I feel empowered. And you know what? I'm happy he's living on an island with six people because I only watched the band She's a Finish Aaron

the other day and I wouldn't like to be on an island. And that had like Hundreds of people I love when Someone Leaves someone And the person they leave Is like

Good luck to you Do you know what I mean I love that When that's the attitude It's like See you later loser I love that I love it

Yeah I hate the begging I'm a beggar Yeah Of course it is It's important To prioritise yourself Rather than

Now I would say I'm a beggar as well But like not all the time There's been quite like Not for main relationships I haven't been a beggar No and I Do you know what

I'm only referring to one relationship Where I turned into a beggar And I That version of me Is kind of gone now It was during a strange time In my life Anyway

It's for another podcast I think There is a time When you can get out Of the begging though Once you gain control And don't like Obsessively text

Then you can control And you're like Oh God Just text me again Even though you know Fine well That you want to send 350 texts back

Hold back Hold back 15, 20 texts That's fine You're like, oh God, just text me again. Even though you know fine well that you want to send 350 texts back. Hold back. Just hold back. 15, 20 texts. That's fine. I remember one of the girls one night, she came home. It was back when we were using land, like we were ringing mobiles off landlines. And we were on a night out and she was seeing this guy at the time. And she was, it was like on and off all the time.

And she was mad about him 155 missed calls she sat on the floor and pressed redial redial redial and he woke up

the next day with 155 hi girls I can't stress enough that I'd really appreciate if you kept this anonymous okay Hi girls I can't stress enough That I'd really appreciate If you kept this anonymous Okay Hello Anon

Of course I'm 26 And have been in a relationship For about 5 years With an amazing man Oh We live together And have been engaged

For 3 years now That sounds quite nice The thing is I'm not happy anymore Oh Yeah He has done I know.

Oh, no, I hate when that happens. It's awful. See when they're too nice. Oh, God. Fucked up. Our souls are our souls, but if you're too nice, you're also an our soul. There is no winning. There is no solution.

There's just no winning. That's my attitude. I just feel like I don't love him anymore. I first realized this when he wasn't looking forward When I wasn't looking forward To coming home And seeing him Or I never missed him anymore

When he was out We have had our whole life Literally planned out In front of us House, marriage, kids The problem is I don't want that anymore With him

Do I break up with him Or do I stay with him Because it makes sense Financially And for our future No you can't stay Because you know what Do you know what as well

I would say I've been in those situations Before where the love Just don't It just Like the love Just fizzles out It just goes

Like The love just goes It just goes And it's actually very hard To leave a relationship When there's no real Problems as such You have to be quite brave

I think To go No this isn't right. Very brave. Also... But you feel guilty though. Yeah, I mean, yeah. It's horrible.

Breakups are the worst. It's horrible being broken up with. It's horrible being the one who's doing the breakups. But also, you have to think as well about him. Like, he deserves to be with someone who's mad about him. Do you know what I mean?

And you deserve to be with someone you're mad about. But he also deserves more, I think. That's what I'd say. That's how I see it. I think mean And you deserve to be With someone you're mad about But he also deserves More I think That's what I'd say That's how I see it I think that you're Going to be doing Yeah I think that you're

Going to be doing Everyone a favour Yourself and him At the end of the day It's going to be really hard It'll be really hard for him But then he will look back And realise that he

Shouldn't have done this Yeah you'll meet Someone else Everyone always Everyone always seems To meet someone else Everyone And you'll

And do it before Do it before you get married because the chances are you'll probably end up leaving them anyway at some stage and and I'll tell you what

not not joking it's not going through a divorce is not nice it's not fun it's really embarrassing it's just like

crap if you can avoid that avoid it like the plague she also wants to add that her sex life isn't good and she's not satisfied anymore.

And now she's getting to the stage where she doesn't like the idea of even having sex with him. Yeah, you see, that's when you know. That's when you know. I remember one time, like, kind of pushing my ex off me. Physically pushed him off. I was like, I can't. I'm sorry.

I just can't. Can't do it. Like, I just. Oh, God. So it's horrible when it gets to that point. I know. Pushed him off I was like I can't I'm sorry I just can't Can't do it Like I just Oh god So it's horrible When it gets to that point I know And you don't want to

Get to the point You know I think That you're in a good position Because you're only 26 You've been together Five years You haven't cheated on him Which would absolutely

Break his heart So I would say Have a really honest Conversation with him And it's the best thing to do Absolutely It is It's that horrible thing

She won't do it now It'll probably roll on For another year or two But it's gonna have to to do Absolutely It is It's that horrible thing She won't do it now It'll probably roll on For another year or two But it's It's gonna have to It's gonna The writing is on the wall And it's like a bandage

Try not to do the longer boy Don't do the longer I know but don't do the longer boy It's like Even though that's what Joanne and I like to do All the time But just try not to

Be less us We're emotionally immature So if you If you Can kind of harness As much emotional maturity As possible And it does sound like

She is very emotionally mature Like even to be engaged At 26 I think shows Like you know That's a certain type of person You know So Yeah

She obviously And she obviously cares about him Very much But like I say Once the whole like Oh my god If they touch me I'm going to vomit thing

Comes in Like that's when you know It, it just has to go. And it becomes, you become, I found with that guy that I was talking about, I was, it was like, I was a bit like mean to him. Like, do you know what I mean? I was a bit dismissive of him because he was annoying me so much. And that's not fair either because he's a really good person. Anyway, sorry, this isn't about me. Because he's a really good person.

Anyway, sorry. This isn't about me. Well, everybody. Thank you very much for listening to our bonus episode. We really enjoyed that. Coming from Scotland. Coming from London. Coming from San Sebastian.

And coming from Lisbon. Yes. All in one. 12 plus. 12 plus to Macedonia. Yeah. The Prince of Macedonia