My Therapist Ghosted Me - MTGM EXTRA! "The T Word" - With Una Healy

Episode Date: May 24, 2023

Una Healy joins Vogue and Joanne to tell her long-awaited side of the story, following the whole "throuple" thing... If you’d like to get in touch, you can send an email to [e-mail] review Global's Privacy Policy: https://global.com/legal/privacy-policy/MTGM is going on tour in Ireland & The UK! Remember to check the venue websites as well as Ticketmaster! For more information about Joanne's gigs, just visit www.joannemcnally.comThis episode contains explicit language and adult themes that may not be suitable for all listeners.Thank you!

This is a Global Player original podcast. Welcome to My Therapist Ghosted Me, our bonus episode, and it's a special one this week. It's a very special one. It's a special one. We've decided we're going to start having guests on. Occasionally. Occasionally. Only people that we absolutely love and adore and admire. Una Healy! I feel very special.

I've always wanted to be you because obviously I've tried my hardest to be in a girl band all my life. She has. Yes. Never made it. I lived the dream. I know.

Were you... So come here. When did they start the Saturdays and when did they finish? Well, it started in... I auditioned in 2007. That long ago. Oh my God, yeah.

And then we did our first single the summer of 2008. What was the first single? It was If This Is Love. The one that sticks in my head is... Superstar. Oh, Ego. Ego. Yeah, Ego.

I'm surprised you actually got that from that singing she can hang the song if she can't get it who can and you can actually sing which I'm not being bad but that's not that common

in bands I mean that's why I thought I could get into a band I can't sing I can't really dance but you're hot but Una can sing and she's hot

yeah can you dance you can dance well I didn't do much dancing before the Saturdays I'll be honest I was gigging and with the guitar literally in the corner

like doing gigs with the guitar so when I had to actually perform and dance at the audition I thought this is my weakness now I might not get in

because of this because some girls like flat out like you don't know how to train but luckily the dance moves were not that hard

in the Saturdays they were quite simple I don't know what it was trained but luckily the dance moves were not that hard in the Saturdays they were quite simple I don't know what it was but I remember you girls on Saturdays being like god why not me but I don't even like dancing or singing well in fairness to Vogue that's not true we have seen some footage that we haven't shown anyone yet of Vogue

hip hop dancing at 14 practicing and she was recording herself in her sitting room we all did street dancing in school yeah that was it was street dance so I wasn't you know like we all did street dancing in school yeah that was I thank God it was street dance so I wasn't that bad at it we did line dancing in school

there was the line dance craze yeah we did Irish dancing I never did Irish dancing I never did Irish dancing only in Irish college things like that which was just a pathetic attempt

yeah we were just kind of skipping around the place waiting to score someone again are you still friends with all the girls oh yeah of course yeah no we're all really good friends

yeah no we they're such lovely girls we're very lucky because yeah we did audition and we were put together but they put together

a great combination I know Molly I know Molly and Frankie and I met them at the Baptist and they are really sound they're lovely yeah no they're gorgeous girls they really are

like I miss them I miss having the girls around me do you know so like when the band went on a hiatus that's what we call it so you're going to get back together you never know

one day I hope so I'll do I'll be your pre-warm up show yeah actually you could do that this is what I was going to say years ago

like when everyone was young it was like what do you want to be when you grow up a pop star you know but like now I'm telling you now little girls now

are watching the 2v going I want to be them that's kind of how it's shifted you know it's changed you know it's like I still want to be a pop star, you know? But like now, I'm telling you now, little girls now are watching the 2B going, I want to be them. That's kind of how it's shifted. You know, it's changed. You know, it's like... I still want to be a pop star. They're definitely not saying they want to be me.

But I do think there is, like when Vogue was talking about getting into a band, when you're young, and I'm not saying this in a... I'm not teasing you, Vogue. I'm just saying,

Vogue knew that she was destined for some sort of celebrity. I'm sorry, you did. Your name's Vogue, for fuck's sake. some sort of celebrity I'm sorry you did your name's Vogue for fuck's sake and you're hot like something was going to take off so when you're kind of thinking

okay what are my credentials what can I do and a band was they were so huge at the time there was all these talent shows and Louis Walton it was it was a culture

it really was yeah it was all that everyone wanted I met speaking of Vogue I met a girl today in Heathrow Airport and her mom asked me to get a picture with her because she Speaking of Vogue I met a girl today In Heathrow Airport And her mum asked me

To get a picture with her Because she was called Vogue And how old was she? I met my first Vogue She was about seven It's like gosh You could be She might be named after you

You don't know Well she did say that But I thought she was Just buttering me up I love that But I thought that was amazing I've never met a Vogue It's the first Vogue

Was she Irish? No she was English Do you know what There's not many Unas Like even though Una Is an Irish name Well we have another Una In our life Do you? what there's not many Unas even though Una is an Irish name well we have another Una in our life

do you our director's called Una Una McEvitt I know a couple of Unas Una Mullally she's been always very kind to us interviewing us and stuff

it's not that many it's kind of a granny name I think I don't know granny names are back she has a friend called Mary oh yeah

I'd love to go and see a baby Mary. You know, I just think that Marjorie's going to be my next kid's name. I think Maud is a really cool name. Yeah, they do come round. Oscar is big at the moment and Oscar was very an old school kind of traditional name.

I like Oscar. It reminds me of Dog's name though. What's your middle names? Teresa. Oh, no, Teresa. And then for my confirmation, I picked Imogen

Imogen you were trying to be cool and my so I'm Una Teresa Imogen

which is UTI it's very unfortunate I didn't think of it at the time do you know

it's so funny right my mum was going to call my brother Stefan but his

middle name was going to be Stefan like that yeah it's Irish for Stephen Stefan yeah no one's going to be Stefan like that yeah Irish for Stephen

Stefan yeah no one's going to say that but anyway go on Stefan Thomas McNally MC but back when

Connor was born because he's significantly older than me people were still signing cheques and my mum was like I don't want to call him that because his initials

would be STI yeah STD STD I went to school in France for a while and the amount of girls called Fanny

I was like oh no are they in Fanny yeah but they don't know what Fanny is Fanny is Rachel over there anyway

we don't want to bring you down to our level you're better than us you're better than us come on Ines stop bringing yourself down to us don't indulge us

now we were talking about you on the pod you've always been very well known but there's a we were talking about you on the pod you've always been very well known but there's a lot of chat about you at the moment in particular

because of the throuple chat the t-word that I had to google myself because I never heard of it in my life literally I was like

what is this why am I being called this name that I do not have never heard of and don't know what it is first of all you look amazing in the picture you look amazing in the picture

so that's the only good thing that picture I'm telling you I'll never wear a black bikini again because I've seen that picture so many times and it's just every like literally every single day

and I'm down there in Thurles living my best life little hermit down in Thurles while I'm truffling in paradise in this black bikini well if I looked like that

I'd admit I was in some sort of harem or cult if they were like Joanne McNally's in a cult and I look like that in the photo I was in some sort of harem or cult if they were like Joanne McNally's in a cult and I looked like that in the photo I wouldn't even dispute it

I'd be like yes yes I am but that isn't like that isn't actually true I know it's not true but no one else like in fairness to you

you have said absolutely nothing nothing I would be like the biggest mouthpiece because I don't and I think it's nice for people to know

the actual truth of it you've always been quite discreet because when your husband was acting the maggot, you never said it. You never said a thing. Never said a word.

And I was like, look at Anna Healy. She's like a diplomat. She never said a thing. I think a lot of people just knew, so I didn't need to say anything. You didn't need to say it. I didn't have to say anything. But you took the higher out,

something that me and Val were always trying to find. You did though. I thought that was amazing as well because you had kids involved in that too yeah and so what a shitty thing

to have to go through but publicly as well yeah we had so much admiration for you when you were separating from Ben yeah

that we were like look at her go she's just there lifting her weights saying nothing lifting her weights saying nothing raising her kids

doing her squats being an amazing mum and you're a single mum for most of the time I am yeah like I'm raising them because he lives in New York and he only sees them

like summer Christmas right so I am because they're in school yeah so I'm raising them with my parents basically that's how it is

and he sees them then for summer and Christmas and it's not easy but it's my life and it is how it is and I love it I love for summer and Christmas. And it's not easy, but it's my life and it is how it is. And I love it. I love being a mother. I've always wanted to be a mother

and I feel very blessed. So, yeah. And they're blessed to have you. They have your eyes, those eyes, the huge eyes. I love those eyes. They're so cute.

Your daughter is literally like your carbon copy. I'm so jealous. Speaking of your carbon copy, I cannot get over how much you looked like that doll in that horror film I know

I admit it myself I do like I was kind of thinking did they see a picture of me or something and actually copy and go we're going to make a doll a horrible

evil doll that looks like I'd be taking them to court you're their muse excuse me you're like the bride to Chucky but like she's hotter now yeah

tell us about the photo what happened how did it come about so how did you start dating him yeah so dating him is the right term because that's

that's how it was and how you know it wasn't a throuple okay so I met him last summer online

on a dating app Raya and it was Raya I'm giving them an advertisement now I've been talking about Raya for two years that's a year and a half I haven't had any luck on it really

you know apart from I did meet David and we had a lovely relationship but I'll go back to the beginning where I was swiping along and I saw him and he was doing his weights there

and I was like oh he looks a bit alright and I recognised him I was like I remember him from back in the day when he was boxing and stuff so I hit the like and then as soon as I hit the like you know when it connects straight away bling I was like oh he looks a bit alright and I recognised him I was like I remember him from back in the day when he was boxing and stuff so I hit the like

and then as soon as I hit the like you know when it connects straight away bling I was like oh he's already liked me as well so then he straight away

messaged me going nice to connect I was like oh nice to connect too and then after a couple of messages he was like oh here's my WhatsApp so then we moved it to WhatsApp

you know and then I straight out asked him I was like what are you looking for? Because I did a Google and I was like, well, I'm probably going from the frying pan into the fire with this fella because he did exactly to his wife what my ex-husband did to me. Oh, okay. So I was like, didn't like that now.

Yeah. Did you know who he was? Yeah, I would have been familiar with him. I wouldn't have known. I wasn't a big fan around him. Yeah. I just knew who he was. Yeah.

He's well known in England and as then we were chatting on WhatsApp and I just said straight out to him I said what are you looking for in a relationship and he goes

well I've just split up with my girlfriend that's what he said and I'm single but I don't believe that the traditional relationship exists anymore

and I was like in what way he was like sounds like Joanne McNally yeah do you is he still on Raya I'll have a look okay go on relationship exists anymore. And I was like, in what way? He was like, Sounds like Joanne McNally. Yeah. Is he still on, Raya? I'll have a look.

Okay, go on. So I was kind of like, because I'm a monogamous person and that's why, you know, hopefully one day I will settle down again with a nice monogamous man. That's what I want, you know.

So I said to him, oh, good luck with that. So I said, we can just be friends anyway. But then because we got on so well, I was just like back and forth, like we got on so well, I was just like, back and forth, like we'd be chatting every day.

He was sending me pictures of him and his kids and we'd be hours on the phone, yeah, and then met in person. He was a real gentleman. He brought me on a lovely date, went to see a lovely play

in London and then any time I was ever working in London, I'd meet up with him. You know, it was casual, like it wasn't serious. But that's all you probably

could handle at the time. Yeah, I was happy enough with it. Was it, as my mother would say, in a romantic capacity? It was in a romantic capacity. You were hooking up with him. Oh yeah.

I know, she was coming to the theatre with him. I genuinely didn't know. I'm sorry. So you were hooking up with him after a while. We were great pals. I didn't know.

But anyway, he was very honest that he, I wasn't the only woman he was seeing. He was like, I was very aware that he was seeing other people. But I feel like that's kind of like the start of relationships but at least I knew he was honest

and that's the thing so it's not like I was being cheated on and I was like well you know it's like I know he's not husband material so this is just a bit of fun yeah and I was enjoying it yeah and then as time went on just from conversations and little things and when the phone would ring and I'd see her name light up the ex-girlfriend was back on the scene Is that Sian? Yeah and I was like so what's going on there

and he was like well she's very involved in my life she knows a lot of the stuff what I'm working on she's kind of involved in that and yeah she is around so he said

because you're very special to me and she's very special to me I think it's important that she meet each other at some point and I wasn't fond of the idea I was like no I'm happy just seeing you when I see you.

She doesn't need to be around. She gets enough time with you. Can I just have you on my own when I get to see you? And then he was like, no, I think it's really important that you do meet her. And I think he kept saying, she really wants to meet you too. And then I was thinking, oh, do you know what? Because they've been pictures in the past. And as his girlfriend, I was thinking, well, if we're ever pap sometime

and I'm with him or no, it's just me and him, it could come out that he's cheating on her with me. That was my first instinct to go,

well, maybe I should meet her and then at least if we're all pictured together, we're all a happy family. Do you know what I mean? It's like there's nothing sinister going on. And they weren't

going out at this time. Well, you see, this thing, he doesn't label he never really says girlfriend he's never called her

his girlfriend and he says that as well it's like any time I was like she's your girlfriend he's like no I'm like well she's like Richard the whole time

so why she then was like but he's other you know he's open he's open it's an open he's kind of like

polyamorous yeah I would say that yeah and so I did I did meet her really nice girl and I didn't get to know her very well

so it wasn't a throuple you know so there was no not to be crude it's not like you weren't like you were you were romantic with him

you weren't romantic with her I wasn't romantic with her I don't really know her you know yeah you see that's the thing that they make out I think they made out

that like you were having like some three way relationship but actually we did spend a few days together though we went away to Morocco the three of us yeah but you were having like some three way relationship but actually you were only we did spend a few days together though we went away to Morocco the three of us yeah

but you were very you weren't I just thought it feels very modern it was very modern I was on the flight over so like I met you at the airport

I remember that yeah and I was saying to you because Christmas is hard for me every other year because the kid's dad has them on Christmas day so like you know it's sad that I'm up there

that when Santa Claus has arrived that I get to see the kids faces open in the presents so I was like you know it's sad that I'm not there that when Santa Claus has arrived that I get to see the kids faces open in the present so I was like this year I just had it in my head I'm getting out of the country I just do not want to be in Ireland

for Christmas this year so I said it to David because he was the guy I was seeing at the time I was like please can we just go can you come away with me and he was like

okay but Sian's coming too and I was like okay I would have rather just me and him but I was like she's a nice rather just me and him but I was like she's a nice girl

she can come too At this stage now did you know that they were kind of seeing each other as well? I knew she was very involved in his life but like as I said

he's very open in relationship anyway At least he's being honest Yeah this is the thing there's the honesty there I think that's what

I found attractive too but I did get on really well with him and I remember like sitting on the plane on the way over to Morocco literally

I got the window seat and he was in the middle and the hand the hand was on one leg on mine and the hand was on her leg and I kind of looked

and I was like and I said to myself I said to him I goes what am I doing and he goes you're having a midlife crisis and he said don't worry so am I doing? And he goes, you're having a midlife crisis.

And he said, don't worry, so am I. I was like, well, she's not because she's 10 years younger. So anyway. Oh, no. But I can totally understand the, especially, you're in something new. You've come out of something else. You're in something new. He's very charismatic.

He's offering us a kind of a modern way of looking at relationships. Oh, he's very modern with it. Yeah, and you're kind of just curious. You're like, okay, well, let's just see how this goes. But especially if you don't want something really full on. Yeah, but

those few days were fun, nice, you know, a bit different. But when I got back and I went over for four days to Costa Rica to see him, it was like, I felt like it actually, the song came on on the way in actually today and I went over for four days to Costa Rica to see him it was like I felt like it actually the song came on

on the way in actually today and I was like it's a sign Brandy and Monica do you know the boy is mine oh yeah

like as soon as I got there I just felt it was like I could hear the song da da da da da da da da yeah you're like chills are done

I was like I'm Brandy I'm Brandy you're definitely Brandy you're Brandy so I was like it just was like it was just thank God there was quite a few're Brandy so I was like it just was like it was just

thank God there was quite a few other people there so it was like loads of us so she was kind of jealous of you being there I just know I don't know if she was it was just

there's no dynamic there at all clearly she's not my girlfriend we're both he's both our boyfriend and it was just I was like you know what I'm out

this isn't for me you can have him you can have him he can have whoever he wants because I know one will never be enough for him and I just want to go go back on my own

and I went back little hermit back in Thurles as I said for months and literally in the paper nearly every single day used as clickbait

as being in this throuple that was existing in print but in principle and in reality I'm actually at home in Thurles looking after and in reality I'm actually at home in Thurles

looking after my kids when I'm I tell you I got trolled to death did you? I got absolutely trolled to death I would have thought that

I know but I think it's in this day and age people are just throwing shade at you because they just they see you as someone who's just in this

modern relationship he's allowed to have it as a modern relationship where you're seen as somebody who's like not supposed to be doing something like that. Yeah but it wasn't what they labelled me you know it just wasn't because if you google that word because I actually can't even bring myself

to say it it's a romantic relationship between three people and there was troubles coming forward like going on the likes of this morning and they were like we had a trouble but they were really proud of it and they should be that's what they're in and they're happy in but I was labelled the wrong that wasn't what it was

did you know it as well Una I swear to God I think people are jealous look it wasn't it wasn't what it was presented at Grant

even if it was what it was presented at you were three incredibly attractive people photographed in a pool and people are their fantasies their imaginations

run wild that's what it was as well and they're like hold on a second if I have to stay if I'm stuck in a monog people are their fantasies their imaginations run wild that's what it was as well and they're like hold on a second if I have to stay if I'm stuck in a monogamous relationship with this lad

I've been with since I was 22 why the fuck can Una Healy go off and have a good time she should be ashamed because I don't have the courage

to live that type of lifestyle so I think people project their shame I really do and I think that's a lot of what it was there's that and there's judgment as well.

There's judgment. Or just society and everything else. But they're projecting. It's judgment on themselves. Because they're like, hold on, if I have to abide by these rules of monogamy and all that shit, why doesn't Una Healey? But I also think that people just are very opinionated on things that they just don't know anything about. And I think, I look at you and I'm like, fair play. You're down in Thurlis and you want to go and have fun.

You're back and forth to London and you're seeing a guy that is seeing other people, but you don't mind because you're not into a full-time relationship. So you went home. Yeah, I came home in January. So the last I've seen of David, and we've only been in touch here and there, I said, he calls it unsubscribing from the team.

So I had to tell him. Because you have a spreadsheet. I got back and I was like, I've unsubscribing from the team. So I had to tell him. Does he have a spreadsheet? I got back and I was like, I've unsubscribed. And he was like, OK, fair enough. He goes, you do you. Do what makes you happy. And he always says that. He says, I'm just living my truth.

I'm my authentic self, he said. And this is who he is. And so I unsubscribed, came back to Ireland in January. But as I said like yeah I've been months in the press being in this

this trouble so I got back and and then it came to Valentine's now I'd already unsubscribed but for some reason he wanted to share the love

or show show his appreciation for the queens so he had he had one picture of her oh she got in first

so maybe she was Brandy and then it was like happy happy Valentine's to and he did one for her an appreciation post and then one for me

and I was like oh two separate posts yeah but like you know kind of swipe on the story you know happy Valentine's oh no he did put

the two of us in the picture as well then on the actual grid even though you don't subscribe I don't really unsubscribe yeah maybe he was trying to get you to resubscribe maybe maybe yeah to put the two of us in the picture as well then on the actual grid even though you'd unsubscribed I'd already unsubscribed yeah maybe he was trying to get you

to resubscribe maybe maybe yeah sounds like he was but I was like oh thanks and he was like and he kind of got

you're not going to like repost it and I was like and I kind of unwittingly did I went and then all my friends were messing with me

what are you doing why are you reposting you're not with him anymore why are you doing that I was like I don't, I don't know. I don't know. And then I did another one. Like, you know when you do a post

but delete it afterward? It's actually like the picture. It's like, I thought it was cute. Might delete later. Well, there was a lot of that going on, you know? Yeah, yeah. So I put one up of just me and him and it was like really philosophical.

I was like, it was only him, you know? But I deleted it again. Oh, but they'd already seen it oh of course the the press had already seen it

screen grabbed it oh because you were trying to say it was only him you were only with him yeah I was trying to explain that but I didn't do

a great job I think that's I think that kind of says it all it was only him yeah so I said that and then oh sure just

that was back in February and look where we are now they still haven't anything like literally if I made a fart they'd link it back to him yeah I think the worst for me

was some people were there with the judgment where they're kind of like going the poor kids the poor kids the poor kids, the poor kids, the poor kids. Like that's just so nasty because. And I'm just standing up for myself here because I look after and love my children so well. Yeah.

So I'm so proud to be their mother and they're proud that I'm their mother. So I just felt that that was that was really horrible. Yeah. I think that that it was the media that kind of pushed them to say those things. Because it's how they headline things. I don't think it's fair the way they did that. If I'm being honest, I actually have not, I've really hated the first half of this year. And I haven't been able to enjoy it. I've been really upset about it.

But luckily, back in my hometown, nobody looked at me differently. Nobody gave me weird remarks or any of that. There was these sources coming forward then and saying things that weren't true. And that's where I had to draw the line. I was like, if anything more is said here, I'm going to have to take some sort of legal action because I can't have my name trashed about the place.

Well, then he did. But then he did that post. So he did a post, Joanne, where he like basically put up a picture and said, we're looking for a new team. Yeah, he said there's an opening in the team because I let it slip. I was at a library event for team member of our team there's an opening in the team because I let it slip I was at a library event

for International Women's Day and there was a journalist in the audience that I wasn't aware of and then I was just asked about being a single parent and I said yeah I'm a single woman

single parent that's all I said but then one of the papers I think it was the Mirror did this big like headline exclusive and they did a two page spread

on that little one thing that I said but then he was like wow well you've made it public to the world that you're single and ready to mingle page spread on that little one thing that I said but then he was like well you've made it public to the world that you're single and ready to mingle I'm putting it out there

that I'm doing the same so he did and then it kind of brought the whole thing back around again so I think like you're living your best life

you haven't done anything wrong anyone can be whoever they want to be or be in the kind of relationship they want to be in but like your thing is you were with one person you weren't in a relationship

with three people. No, I wasn't. Two other people. And I really enjoyed my relationship with him and he is actually a really nice guy. He was very kind to me,

very honest, but it ran its course. And I've been single ever since. I haven't been on a date. I went back on the app for a while and had, oh Jesus. We were talking about

the fish in the sea. The swamp. It is tough when you get to my age in the dating world. It's not like when you're younger and it's like, there's loads of fish in the sea because that it is tough when you get to my age in the dating world it's not like when you're younger and it's like there's loads of fish in the sea

because that's an expression isn't it but there actually isn't because a lot of the good ones are caught and taken now I've always said though I would never have swiped on Spenny like not in any bad way

he just wouldn't have been my type had I not met him in real life I don't think I would have met him online and been like I want to be with you so I think that's the tough thing about online dating I've only ever have met him online and been like I want to be with you so I think that's a tough thing about online dating

I've only ever fallen for people I've been kind of forced to spend time with and that's the truth that's the God's honest truth that I was kind of forced to spend time with

that's so true actually yeah yeah well I think that the dating apps are like if you go into a restaurant and it's always a bad sign when the menu

there's like nearly every single option on there that you can imagine they've got it all that's not a bad sign when the menu there's like nearly every single option on there that you can imagine they've got they've got it all that's not a good sign there's too much and then they show when they show the pictures as well it's even worse because you know the food's not going to come out like that so you see the picture and then you need them it's actually that's what i think it is and it's terrible i have to i'm not going back on the app i'm staying off the app someone will and i i am like i know one of my actually god rest her soul lindsey my

my friend who passed away last year, she always said to me, Una, stop looking. You're looking and looking and you're finding the wrong ones and you're attracting, you know, because you're looking, all the wrong ones are like literally like a beacon. I think being set up by somebody is nice. Let's think about that. I think that's actually a really good way to do it.

I want to meet someone naturally. Yeah, I'm going to have a little think about that. The triple thing. It sounds to me like you were just involved in a casual relationship with the guy you met on radio yeah who was also in a

that's it this sound to me sounds very much like this was his narrative to push that he wanted people thinking that this is what it was yeah and he's kind of

I think he's very happy about it of course he is he looks like whereas I was in bits about it it's only different for men and women. He looks like a hero and then people pile on the two women. And he didn't get it.

Like he was like, oh, he was always really trying to coach me and trying to not get upset. And he was like, why do you worry so much about what people think? And I said, it's not really that. It's more what they're actually saying to me.

I've never had to hit the block button so much. I was literally like, block, block, block, block. That's horrible. Yeah. And I had to like, you know, in Instagram, I didn't even know you could do this,

but you can actually make a list of words that you don't want. So say people comment and they're calling you certain names. So the reason then there wasn't as many nasty comments written was because I have my list of words blocked. I didn't think you could, but that's how much I've learned. But I don't know, I'm glad to know what it's like out there and what it feels like to be. And you know what, they wouldn't come up to your face and say it they just wouldn't

because not one person not one person said a word to me well I'm so glad that you've come on now and you've had like it was like again because you were so good with your marriage breakup

and everything like that you just kept silent about it and then you kind of did it with this but it's nice to just get across your own side of the story and that's kind of it because to clear that up as well that there was

the report that they concocted was that I went on Rhea and that they were a couple on there but that is fine if that's what they want to do

but that was not how the relationship started for me and I don't want to be part of a three way relationship you were hoodwinked into a throuple I was

you were hoodwinked in a way I was you were hoodwinked well in a Spencer and I are auditioning for our team and I think you were hoodwinked in a way I was you were hoodwinked well in a Spencer and I are auditioning for our team and I think you look great

I tried to subscribe and our phone said no you've unsubscribed I was like I'd like to subscribe it is though it's just it honestly just looked

to me like you were living your best modern day life there was that's all I saw I would still use that picture if I was you

I'd just cut the other two out because you look amazing in it I'll keep the picture yeah I definitely will cut the other two out yeah so are they gone now no contact I never

as I said I don't really know Sian I don't I don't I honestly don't know her we never used to like WhatsApp or ring each other

like I don't I don't know her so but David I'd hear from him the odd time like he'd check in like just like how how are you? Like we never,

it wasn't that I'm bitter or anything. It's all fine. It suited him down to the ground though, didn't it? This is what I mean. What would he have done if you were seeing someone else? Oh no.

That was a no. Well, I didn't want to anyway because I'm, as I said, like I am a monogamous person. I just, I don't feel comfortable

seeing more than one person. I just don't get it. I'd be, I think, We'd be blocking the right person I just don't get it I'd be I think we'd be blocking the ride left right and centre I'm very yeah I'm very monogamous

I really am you always try to think that you're not but you are I am monogamous I 100% am I'm just a bit I can be a bit

as I call it hyper independent but it's not that I'm off trying to ride other people I'm just what's next? well I've got a new single coming out on June 1st it's not that I'm off trying to ride other people. I'm just... What's next? Well, I've got a new single

coming out on June 1st. Oh, yay! It's called Walk Away. What does that rhyme with? It's called... Ding! Swipe right. No, hold on.

Which is the right? Which is the right? Walk away. David Haye. Yes! Yes! Look at us. We're delighted with ourselves.

Like, boss guys. They're like, whoo! You see? Everything's content yes look at us we're delighted with ourselves like boss guys they're like woo you see everything's content at the end of the day you can always get something out of it for yourself

no the song's called Walk Away it's very like kind of country pop and yeah and I can't wait for it to come out

I'm really excited can't wait to hear it first I can't wait okay good thank you how are you okay I am now

I'm delighted I feel relieved the fact that I've okay good thank you how are you okay I am now I'm delighted I feel relieved the fact that I've got to say my bit and like that I'm not reading learning about this whole thing and about myself

through the media because I think that's how people have heard about it and I'm actually getting to say the truth from the horse's mouth do you know what I mean it's not like

rumours it's the truth everything I've said I have not lied leave Una alone we'll do like leave Britney I have not lied. Yeah. Leave Una alone. We'll do like, leave Britney alone. We'll do,

leave Una alone. Leave Una alone. Two of us under a bed, she's bawling and crying. Yeah. Release her from her conservatorship and Tipperary. Free Una.

She's unsubscribing. We're delighted to have you on. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks very much. My therapist, Gaust to me is on tour and it's coming to a town maybe near you. We've got tickets left for the Marquee in Cork.

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